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L2[01:21:17] <payonel> @Toothless the Dragon o/
L3[01:21:27] <payonel> offline ?
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L7[01:36:08] <Raspberry Pi> @payonel I'm here, I was the one that found the bug
L8[01:36:29] <Raspberry Pi> I can dm you the info if you want
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L11[03:05:04] <dequbed> Izaya: Pave the world!
L12[03:05:18] <Izaya> Do I get to nuke it first?
L13[03:05:20] <Izaya> Also hai
L14[03:05:27] <dequbed> Of course
L15[03:05:28] <dequbed> hai :p
L16[03:06:51] <Izaya> I have a faster switch now
L17[03:07:02] <dequbed> Neat
L18[03:07:19] <dequbed> I have Gentoo on all of my systems now <.>
L19[03:07:30] <Izaya> I don't have any Windows on my systems now
L20[03:07:39] <Izaya> also secure boot with my own keys on anything that supports it
L21[03:07:48] <dequbed> I also have a Windows PC now. DID WE SWITCH PLACES!?
L22[03:08:09] <Izaya> maybe
L23[03:08:14] <Izaya> brb checking if outside is germany
L24[03:08:19] <Kleadron> no penguins on my property
L25[03:09:08] <dequbed> Its not 40degC outside, so I'm not in 'stralia.
L26[03:09:33] <Izaya> only 18C presently
L27[03:09:37] <dequbed> Wait.
L28[03:09:49] <dequbed> Maybe you *are* in Germany.
L29[03:09:56] <dequbed> Is your PM still very stupid?
L30[03:10:05] <dequbed> Wait no that applies to germany as well.
L31[03:10:13] <dequbed> Are your politicians all very corrupt?
L32[03:10:14] <dequbed> No wait.
L33[03:10:17] <dequbed> Dammit
L34[03:13:04] <Izaya> I changed up my setup do you like it https://static.mastodon.technology/media_attachments/files/001/682/178/original/2d48c39c8918d0c5.jpg
L35[03:13:35] <dequbed> I have mastodon bytheby
L36[03:13:48] <Izaya> ooo
L37[03:13:57] <dequbed> Also, not enough Haiku
L38[03:14:08] <Izaya> yeah I need to get more of those
L39[03:14:09] <dequbed> AND A SEVERE LACK OF CATS!
L40[03:14:11] <Izaya> only got one hooked up
L41[03:16:39] <Izaya> (that is to say, the SS2 display is Haiku, and there's another Haiku laptop under the desk)
L42[03:16:51] <dequbed> Also, do you still XMPP?
L43[03:17:18] <Izaya> yeah I just need to run a cable to said Haiku box
L44[03:17:49] <Izaya> then I can leave it on 100% and it won't be effected by my screwing with my main box
L45[03:18:01] <dequbed> I sent you a picture of mine :p
L46[03:19:36] <Izaya> >5 torrents finish in the space of 30 seconds
L47[03:21:23] <dequbed> Izaya: Also the ocstats are shocking :p
L48[03:22:00] <Izaya> oh jesus I'm ahead of gamax now
L49[03:22:11] <Izaya> I guess I really am a no-lifer
L50[03:22:38] <dequbed> Yes that. Also MGR is in the Top 30. And I'm gone for two fuckin years and am still Top 30. Don't talk about no-lifer xD
L51[03:23:13] <dequbed> Anyway, the mastodon node I am using broke, brb yelling at people
L52[03:23:26] <Izaya> haha
L53[03:26:15] <Izaya> dequbed: I'd say it's more like #oc is a lot quieter than it used to be
L54[03:27:05] <dequbed> Izaya: Maybe. Well, not that I could tell, with the being gone and stuff.
L55[03:27:27] <Izaya> activity by year is telling
L56[03:28:02] <dequbed> Huh. Yeah. What *happened* in '17. Did Discord take over as main communication channel?
L57[03:28:15] <Izaya> I think Discord is counted in the stats
L58[03:28:25] <Izaya> I think it's more like Minecraft is dying
L59[03:28:38] <Izaya> and/or Minecraft is being assassinated by Microsoft in favor of Pocket Edition for Windows 10
L60[03:29:52] <dequbed> Yeah but isn't modded cryogenically frozen at 1.7 anyway? ;P
L61[03:30:04] <Izaya> Not any more
L62[03:30:15] <Izaya> there's an even split between 1.7 and 1.12 now
L63[03:30:25] <dequbed> Whats latest again?
L64[03:30:46] <Izaya> 1.13? 1.14? 1.15? 1.16?
L65[03:30:50] <Izaya> I can't say I keep track.
L66[03:30:56] <dequbed> Yeah, wrong question
L67[03:32:04] <dequbed> So how will this differ from 1.4(?) in as soon as all (TM) mods are updated everybody will switch to 1.12 because support for 1.7 will drop? And 1.2 (I think) before that? And the version that everybody stayed on because Redpower?
L68[03:43:02] <ProfessorEevee> Idk if this is the right chat or not but I can't figure out to make an array that has db.selected and db.dest working correctly...
L69[03:43:02] <ProfessorEevee> Basically I want people to be able to pick out a destination of of a given list (db)... It will clear once the user chooses a valid destination and it SHOULD make the list show up with a ">" to the one that got selected...
L70[03:43:02] <ProfessorEevee> https://pastebin.com/raw/AXcmdwpL
L71[03:45:39] <Izaya> this is #oc - the OpenComputers channel - after all
L72[03:45:51] <Izaya> and uh
L73[03:46:25] <Izaya> you'll probably want to name your initial db something else, then copy it into the new one
L74[03:49:33] <ProfessorEevee> Man I'm so confused...
L75[03:51:07] <Kleadron> welcome to software development
L76[03:52:00] <ProfessorEevee> By itself, how would using arrays within arrays work?
L77[03:52:18] <ProfessorEevee> I want to be able to have destinations and whether or not that destination was selected or not
L78[03:52:49] <Kleadron> ?
L79[03:53:00] <ProfessorEevee> I'm sorry, I'm still new to this
L80[03:53:32] <Izaya> the code is more or less fine but I'm not sure how happy it would be evaluating db[i] = {dest=db[i]}
L81[03:53:40] <Izaya> it should work but best not to chance it
L82[03:53:54] <ProfessorEevee> It doesn't
L83[03:54:19] <Izaya> so my advice would be do local db, dests = {}, {"ProfessorEevee", "Sjihttam96", "OrganicCookies"}
L84[03:54:27] <Kleadron> because you dont put arrays in arrays
L85[03:54:30] <Izaya> then use dests as input for populating db
L86[03:54:45] <Izaya> There's no reason not to put tables in tables because Lua handles it well
L87[03:55:45] <dequbed> Putting arrays in arrays is so common it has a name: Matrices.
L88[03:57:53] <Izaya> https://i.4cdn.org/g/1539464071082.png
L89[03:59:04] <ProfessorEevee> is `local db, dests = {}, {"ProfessorEevee", "Sjihttam96", "OrganicCookies"}` 2 lines?
L90[03:59:11] <ProfessorEevee> I feel so stupid for asking ;-;
L91[03:59:23] <dequbed> You can write it in two but it will work as one
L92[03:59:32] <dequbed> In general Lua doesn't exactly care about line count
L93[03:59:56] <dequbed> Any whitespace will do, wether thats a space, a newline, a tab or several thousand of each.
L94[04:00:01] <Izaya> lua is very nice about syntax
L95[04:00:11] <Izaya> t. writes Lua that vim no longer recognises as valid
L96[04:00:13] <ProfessorEevee> I'm sorry, I'm still so confused
L97[04:00:33] <Izaya> you can assign multiple variables on a single line as a, b, c = d, e, f if you want
L98[04:00:40] <ProfessorEevee> I want the destinations to be able to have a boolean value for selected
L99[04:00:44] <Izaya> yes
L100[04:00:58] <ProfessorEevee> but they're already arrays themselves
L101[04:01:32] * Izaya squints
L102[04:02:01] <ProfessorEevee> I'm sorry ;-;
L103[04:02:30] <dequbed> Oh! I gotta try something.
L104[04:02:36] <dequbed> *ahem*. LUA
L105[04:02:37] <MichiBot> Lua*
L106[04:02:40] <dequbed> \o/
L107[04:02:56] <dequbed> Some things never change :3
L108[04:05:53] <Forecaster> yes they do!
L109[04:06:05] <Forecaster> for a while the response module was disabled and she didn't do that!
L110[04:06:23] <Izaya> ProfessorEevee: do you want only one option selectable or all options selectable?
L111[04:07:04] <dequbed> And for a long time MichiBot didn't do that at all because it was build into EnderBot. So fucking what. To me it didn't change <.<
L112[04:07:08] <Forecaster> right MichiBot?
L113[04:07:32] <Forecaster> oh wait, that's still disabled
L114[04:09:27] <Izaya> hey wait what was the error anyway
L115[04:10:04] <Izaya> I don't see a loop but you're using break
L116[04:12:53] <ProfessorEevee> Only one selected at a time
L117[04:13:01] <ProfessorEevee> but
L118[04:13:05] <ProfessorEevee> one sec
L119[04:13:53] <ProfessorEevee> http://tinyurl.com/yaqcyqlr
L120[04:14:40] <ProfessorEevee> https://pastebin.com/raw/DAcNKfSd
L121[04:14:55] <Izaya> what are you doing
L122[04:14:59] <ProfessorEevee> Idek
L123[04:15:05] <ProfessorEevee> I'm lost as heck
L124[04:15:15] <Izaya> db.dest is neither set nor a table
L125[04:15:54] <ProfessorEevee> idek anymore
L126[04:16:27] <ProfessorEevee> it worked until I tried adding .selected to db
L127[04:18:07] <Izaya> https://0x0.st/sEHu.txt
L128[04:18:25] <Izaya> thing 1: having each entry have a selected value will allow having lots of selected options
L129[04:18:38] <Izaya> thing 2:
L130[04:18:40] <Izaya> %pil
L131[04:18:41] <MichiBot> Izaya: https://www.lua.org/pil/contents.html#P1
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L133[04:22:09] <ProfessorEevee> That script doesn't do anything but let you type in "Destination: "... no other text and enter just makes a new one
L134[04:22:26] <Izaya> wait shit uh
L135[04:22:32] <Izaya> mfw I forgot to draw the menu
L136[04:22:45] <Izaya> https://0x0.st/sEHQ.txt
L137[04:24:54] <ProfessorEevee> Now A is always selected and the screen moves down
L138[04:25:05] <ProfessorEevee> every time you type a letter
L139[04:25:11] <Izaya> type a number
L140[04:25:29] <ProfessorEevee> Oh I see
L141[04:25:53] <Izaya> https://0x0.st/sEH1.txt control codes are fixed in this version
L142[04:26:00] <Izaya> forgot a [
L143[04:30:59] <ProfessorEevee> What would I change if I wanted to use text instead of numbers?
L144[04:31:53] <Izaya> hm that makes it more difficult
L145[04:32:39] <Izaya> you could either search through the table (for k,v in pairs(dests) do if v == input then selection = k end) or make the keys the actual text and just have true or something for the value
L146[04:35:42] <ProfessorEevee> Uhhh
L147[04:45:55] <ProfessorEevee> Yay I got it to work, thank you so much!
L148[04:46:14] <Izaya> o7
L149[04:46:26] <Izaya> Do take a look at that 'Programming in Lua' link, it's a good resource
L150[04:46:47] <ProfessorEevee> It seems so confusing to me, so many big words x.x
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L152[04:54:27] <ProfessorEevee> Ok so... now how would I make it so the computer searches through items on like a chest above and looks for an item with a specific word in the lore?
L153[04:54:47] <Izaya> ~w inventory controller
L154[04:54:47] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:inventory_controller
L155[04:55:01] <Izaya> I don't actually play the game so hopefully someone else will know :P
L156[04:55:40] <ProfessorEevee> So I need to have a robot/drone...
L157[04:55:43] <ProfessorEevee> ;-;
L158[04:55:51] <Izaya> not neccesarily
L159[04:55:53] <Forecaster> you can put an inventory controller in an adapter
L160[04:56:16] <Forecaster> or use a transposer
L161[05:00:29] <ProfessorEevee> Hahaha welp the inventory controller is banned on this server
L162[05:13:23] <dequbed> Izaya: Fun fact: My umbreon is called ShadowKat :3
L163[05:13:34] <Izaya> :3
L164[05:13:44] <dequbed> And I love it to bits :p
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L169[06:37:37] <TheAvPman (CarbonFiber Mod)> hey anyone got a currently working stargate code for 1.10.2 open computers
L170[06:47:25] <Lizzy> Izaya, https://twitter.com/elektrotal/status/1050785601056727040 is what Saphire was referring to
L171[06:47:26] <MichiBot> Fri Oct 12 11:29:44 CDT 2018 @elektrotal: Reposting this because the hyper focus part is really important. People think of adhd as jumping around like a cros… <https://t.co/qSXKY9dzPK&gt;
L172[06:47:55] <Izaya> oh okay
L173[06:51:41] <Inari> @ProfessorEevee Ugh, I hate when servers do that. Unfortunately it's often because of some bug with the item
L174[06:53:41] * Saphire pets Lizzy
L175[06:53:50] <Saphire> Whoops, didn't notice Izaya being confused >.<
L176[06:54:17] <TheAvPman (CarbonFiber Mod)> hey anyone got a currently working stargate code for 1.10.2 open computers? [Edited]
L177[06:56:23] <Inari> Didn't even know stargate is still around
L178[06:57:34] * Lizzy purrs
L179[07:03:38] <TheAvPman (CarbonFiber Mod)> yes stargate is still around
L180[07:03:53] <TheAvPman (CarbonFiber Mod)> its not airing any shows at the moment
L181[07:04:00] <TheAvPman (CarbonFiber Mod)> but still
L182[07:04:41] <Izaya> Neat https://a.uguu.se/dlTT2gS5zMif_108387.jpg
L183[07:07:47] <Lizzy> lol, adguard considers that site as malware
L184[07:09:02] <Izaya> one could argue all file hosting sites are potential malware vectors
L185[07:09:47] <Forecaster> %s/file hosting//
L186[07:09:49] <MichiBot> <Izaya> one could argue all sites are potential malware vectors
L187[07:10:42] <Lizzy> also lol
L188[07:16:41] <Inari> s/ {2}/ /g
L189[07:16:41] <MichiBot> <Izaya> one could argue all sites are potential malware vectors
L190[07:17:12] <Inari> Hm I guess " +" would've been better
L191[07:17:13] <Inari> ohwell
L192[07:23:05] <Inari> Hm I kind of feel like playing some MC adventure map again
L193[07:25:55] <AmandaC> It's rather amusing on mobile: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/MFdt3GwN/Screenshot_20181014-082529.png
L194[07:27:51] <Izaya> dequbed: comfy transparent avatar
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L197[07:28:33] <dequbed> Izaya: Hey, as long as it works :p
L198[07:29:00] <Izaya> I'm gonna have to fire up GIMP and have a go at cutting my normal avatar out
L199[07:29:27] <dequbed> Or just draw your own ;)
L200[07:30:39] <AmandaC> The GIMP*
L201[07:30:54] * AmandaC runs off
L202[07:34:17] <AmandaC> %choose hallucinate all day again or find something else to do
L203[07:34:18] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Somebody once told me to roll with hallucinate all day again
L204[07:34:49] <AmandaC> %roll 1dhalucinate all day again
L205[07:34:49] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Invalid dice format (Eg 1d6)
L206[07:35:01] <AmandaC> Bah
L207[07:35:18] * AmandaC curls up against inari
L208[07:44:57] <Inari> %pet AmandaC
L209[07:44:58] * MichiBot brushes AmandaC with methanol tea. 2 health gained!
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L212[08:10:23] <MGR> Long time no see dequbed. How are you?
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L214[08:15:21] <dequbed> Severely under-caffeinated.
L215[08:15:38] <MGR> That's unfortunate
L216[08:55:32] <dequbed> Izaya, honey can you help me with my computer problems? <.>
L217[09:58:44] * Inari hands dequbed a emegency caffeeine injection
L218[10:04:16] <dequbed> Inari: Nuh :I
L219[10:42:30] <Inari> dequbed: But yes
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L221[11:08:43] <dequbed> Inari: Nuh, Ronna doesn't like the raging caffeine addiction of mine. Giving me more caffeine does not help D:
L222[11:08:55] <Inari> Whats a Ronna
L223[11:09:21] <dequbed> A woman
L224[11:09:55] <dequbed> More specifically a woman who can influence my caffeine intake. Which tells you everything about our relationship that you need to know
L225[11:15:29] <Inari> Heh
L226[11:15:45] * Inari notes down: dequbed is a sub
L227[11:31:48] <Inari> AmandaC: https://twitter.com/zzalddong0408/status/1051430065500614656 I see you've sent another assassin squad
L228[11:31:49] <MichiBot> Sun Oct 14 06:10:36 CDT 2018 @zzalddong0408: 저희 아파트 조랭 선생님들 나무타기 연마중 ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ <https://t.co/LQRWWXDZ98&gt;
L229[11:31:50] <Inari> payonel: ^
L230[11:41:38] <Inari> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dpe5nGcV4AA79zn.jpg:large that so pretty *-*
L231[11:45:19] <Skye> Inari, that looks overdone tbh
L232[11:45:32] <Inari> Nah
L233[11:45:37] <Inari> Just need to finda better res version
L234[11:45:38] <Inari> :f
L235[11:46:12] <Inari> Skye: the only thing might be the too strong lip makeup and the stuff under the eyes, otehr than that, It's a lot of stuff, but it's all not that strongly emphasized
L236[11:46:13] <Inari> So it works imo
L237[11:51:40] <Inari> And okay, the outfit could be slighlty better
L238[11:51:44] <Inari> But that hair <3 With that cap <3
L239[11:56:57] <Forecaster> And those shoes! Terrible
L240[11:59:53] <Inari> What shoes
L241[12:00:23] <Forecaster> I dunno, I'm just assuming
L242[12:00:38] <Forecaster> that she's wearing shoes, and that they're terrible
L243[12:26:58] <Inari> Possibly
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L249[14:48:36] <Inari> https://preview.redd.it/uffimw7jg3s11.jpg?width=680&auto=webp&s=0b7745bb8dcaf394339bbd07a82b1ccc60672c5c
L250[14:52:53] <vifino> Izaya: https://twitter.com/S0lll0s/status/1051436119882002434 someone made something with my tool
L251[14:52:54] <MichiBot> Sun Oct 14 06:34:40 CDT 2018 @S0lll0s: ff-glitch (by @rakujira, <https://t.co/YTSiBWYgLh),> applied to each frame of a video: <https://t.co/Hx2GBi0ohp&gt;
L252[14:55:17] <Izaya> v neat
L253[15:01:15] <Wuerfel_21> damn, that's one broken ruby parser http://tinyurl.com/y9nalz73
L254[15:01:41] <vifino> it tried.
L255[15:02:39] <vifino> TIL my gb flashcart has a manufacturing number on it. it's flashcat #1705
L256[15:02:49] <Inari> >cat
L257[15:03:00] <vifino> .. yes.
L258[15:03:01] <vifino> flashcat.
L259[15:03:07] <Inari> goodd job
L260[15:03:15] <vifino> you're one to speak.
L261[15:03:28] <Inari> I'd like to think they manufactured 1500 of them before they realized
L262[15:03:31] <Inari> And went "lets go with it"
L263[15:03:31] <Izaya> flashcat, I like it
L264[15:03:34] <Izaya> https://i.redd.it/glhh7g2865s11.png
L265[15:03:52] <vifino> double d? no need to tell me about your preferences, Inari.
L266[15:04:09] <Forecaster> I thought fireballs refered to spellcasting at first
L267[15:04:15] <Forecaster> before I saw the bottom text
L268[15:04:54] <vifino> man, i am having a hard time remembering the name of my flashcard.
L269[15:04:58] <vifino> er, sorry. flashcat.
L270[15:05:14] <vifino> it has an lsdj™ sticker.
L271[15:12:11] <vifino> EMS 64M USB it was.
L272[15:12:23] <vifino> flasher obviously does not work, at all.
L273[15:12:28] <vifino> i hate everything.
L274[15:18:55] <Inari> vifino: Haha, not quite, no
L275[15:36:09] <vifino> if you say so.
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L277[16:04:21] <Wuerfel_21> unexpected funny localization: ```Fatal exception in DebugThread loop: Normalerweise darf jede Socketadresse (Protokoll, Netzwerkadresse oder Anschluss) nur jeweils einmal verwendet werden. - bind(2) for "127.0.0.1" port 1234
L278[16:04:21] <Wuerfel_21> ```
L279[16:04:22] <Wuerfel_21> "Normalerweise"? Wo wir hingehen, brauchen wir kein "normal"!
L280[16:19:35] <vifino> no german allowed.
L281[16:19:38] <vifino> cease it.
L282[16:20:16] <Izaya> c e a s e
L283[16:20:35] <vifino> H A L T
L284[16:27:05] <vifino> Izaya: how are you doing, by the way?
L285[16:27:19] <Izaya> I am functioning normally
L286[16:27:19] <Wuerfel_21> HALT STOPP! LUFTWAFFE! MEIN LEBEN!
L287[16:27:20] <Wuerfel_21> ~~Auf Wiedersehen, Eva~~
L288[16:27:50] <vifino> zip it, meatbag.
L289[16:27:56] <gamax92> 7z
L290[16:29:21] <vifino> Izaya: nominally would've been a better choice, you poor robot imitator.
L291[16:32:57] <Izaya> I considered it
L292[16:33:08] <Izaya> But I'd say I'm a little better than nominal
L293[16:33:31] <vifino> hm.
L294[17:09:04] <Skye> functioning: apparently
L295[17:12:45] <ZefTheFox> Hello
L296[17:13:18] <MGR> Hello
L297[17:14:00] <ZefTheFox> I'm having issues with some code I wrote and I've got no idea what's going on with it, where would I ask about it?
L298[17:14:12] <MGR> Here
L299[17:15:00] <ZefTheFox> Alrighty then
L300[17:15:29] <ZefTheFox> So I'm running the latest OC for 1.7.10 and I'm trying to do something with event listening http://tinyurl.com/yaubzx7f
L301[17:16:24] <ZefTheFox> Registering the events using event.listen works perfectly fine but trying to ignore them results in the ignore statements being practically ignored. Even when putting them in a print statement nothing gets printed http://tinyurl.com/yby53a4p
L302[17:16:51] <ZefTheFox> ~~Don't judge my function names~~
L303[17:17:23] <MGR> Can you pastebin the entire code?
L304[17:17:59] <ZefTheFox> Yes I can just a minute
L305[17:19:05] <ZefTheFox> https://pastebin.com/2VhkHEC1
L306[17:19:25] <ZefTheFox> I'm experimenting with window bound applications
L307[17:26:47] <Kleadron> havent i seen you from somewhere ?
L308[17:27:11] <ZefTheFox> apparently so http://tinyurl.com/yaw6pjla
L309[17:34:41] <dequbed> Izaya: I am now officially very frustrated at Windows. That took all of 5 hours of wasting my time.
L310[17:35:32] <vifino> ah, yes, the five stages of windows usage.
L311[17:36:01] <vifino> you've reached stage 3 for sure, maybe stage 4.
L312[17:36:09] <vifino> step 5 is installing gentoo.
L313[17:36:20] <vifino> actually, you already use gentoo.
L314[17:36:28] <dequbed> I'm strongly considering nuking it from orbit and going back to linux.
L315[17:36:35] <vifino> +1
L316[17:36:58] <Izaya> Do it
L317[17:37:56] <dequbed> Skyrim SE gets a Silver rating on winehq. I'm *very* strongly considering nuking it. Skyrim was like 50% of the reason why I allowed windows on that machine and IT DOESN'T EVEN START
L318[17:38:11] <Kleadron> you did something wrong
L319[17:38:15] <Izaya> Starts on proton
L320[17:38:46] <dequbed> Yes definitely did something wrong. I used windows in the first place. That *was* a major mistake :)
L321[17:38:55] <vifino> yep.
L322[17:39:02] <vifino> and that's stage 4.
L323[17:41:58] <dequbed> Izaya: Mind trying to get Warframe to run on proton for me? Because that is literally the other 50%.
L324[17:42:39] <vifino> why game when you can play with clang and gcc?
L325[17:42:57] <Izaya> Will do
L326[17:43:29] <dequbed> Because I'm already doing more code magic using clang than you understand on a daily basis. I need to give you a change to feel adequate vifno ;)
L327[17:43:41] <ZefTheFox> Everything about what I wrote works but the event.ignore
L328[17:44:29] <vifino> shut up, dequbed.
L329[17:44:45] <MGR> @ZefTheFox How do you know the event.ignore isn't working?
L330[17:44:55] <vifino> you know that i'm doing pretty magic things. :I
L331[17:45:12] <dequbed> You're doing pretty things, yes :p
L332[17:45:20] <MGR> Also, I'm not sure that the close function is being called
L333[17:45:40] <vifino> i'm doing magic things for work.
L334[17:45:42] <ZefTheFox> I did debugging by putting a print statement in the close function, it was getting called
L335[17:45:49] <vifino> doing pretty things when i'm not.
L336[17:45:54] <ZefTheFox> But the events were still being listened to even afterwards
L337[17:46:06] <ZefTheFox> and event.ignore didn't ever return anything
L338[17:46:09] <MGR> ?
L339[17:46:40] <MGR> maybe put print statements right around the event.ignore to make sure those specific lines are being called?
L340[17:46:56] <ZefTheFox> I did that, nothing would get printed
L341[17:47:01] <MGR> Really?
L342[17:47:03] <ZefTheFox> Like not even nil
L343[17:47:05] <vifino> Izaya: ever wanted to write your own window manager with lua?
L344[17:47:34] <ZefTheFox> http://tinyurl.com/ycbz8wrf
L345[17:47:37] <ZefTheFox> This is what the window looks like
L346[17:47:40] <MGR> Can you try putting print statements after every line in the close function and seeing what's the last one to be called?
L347[17:47:45] <vifino> Izaya: https://github.com/vifino/ljwm/blob/tinywm/examples/tinywm.lua
L348[17:47:58] <ZefTheFox> Clicking the X calls close()
L349[17:48:04] <ZefTheFox> Alright I'll give that a try
L350[17:48:18] <vifino> xcb-based window manager in 66 lines of easy lua.
L351[17:48:34] <ZefTheFox> And I prefer writing stuff myself, it helps with the experience
L352[17:48:53] <dequbed> main = XMonad::main -- xcb-based window manager in 1 line of easy haskell vifino <.<
L353[17:49:06] <vifino> oh shut up.
L354[17:49:09] <vifino> <_>
L355[17:49:18] <dequbed> No wait. XMonad.main. My Rust is leaking again.
L356[17:49:51] <vifino> not the only thing leaking.
L357[17:50:42] <dequbed> If you're going to say something sexist I'm kicking your ass so hard at 35C3 you'll be puking steel caps and leather <.<
L358[17:51:03] <vifino> ... what?
L359[17:51:12] <ZefTheFox> http://tinyurl.com/ya7eqa2m
L360[17:51:13] <vifino> jeez. you pervert.
L361[17:51:21] <ZefTheFox> So it stops after gpu.fill
L362[17:51:35] <ZefTheFox> doesn't execute the event.ignore statements
L363[17:51:53] <MGR> Interesting
L364[17:52:06] <MGR> I should have asked this earlier, but can you go to /tmp and see if there's an event.log?
L365[17:52:22] <vifino> though, can't fault you, dequbed, i am good looking.
L366[17:52:49] <ZefTheFox> there is
L367[17:52:50] <ZefTheFox> interesting
L368[17:52:56] <MGR> What does it say?
L369[17:53:03] <dequbed> vifino: And I'm still not into you. :p
L370[17:53:06] <ZefTheFox> Bad argument function expected got nil
L371[17:53:16] <ZefTheFox> I'm guessing that it's because the functions are local
L372[17:53:22] <MGR> ?
L373[17:53:24] <MGR> No it's not
L374[17:53:33] <MGR> It's because you defined the close function before the click and drag functions
L375[17:53:44] <MGR> Move the close function after those, and you *should* be good to go
L376[17:53:55] <vifino> dequbed: if you say so.
L377[17:54:00] <ZefTheFox> The click function calls the close function
L378[17:54:13] <ZefTheFox> so I might of screwed myself over
L379[17:56:09] <MGR> Now, that's an interesting dilemna
L380[17:56:22] <MGR> Mayyyyyyyyybe try it anyways?
L381[17:56:26] <MGR> It's worth a shot
L382[17:56:30] <ZefTheFox> Yeah I'll do that
L383[17:57:24] <ZefTheFox> And now the close function can't be caled
L384[17:57:27] <ZefTheFox> And now the close function can't be called [Edited]
L385[17:57:45] <MGR> Of course
L386[17:58:01] <ZefTheFox> I'm gonna try something and see
L387[17:58:09] <Compu> seems like an app that would work better on kitten os
L388[17:58:43] <ZefTheFox> I just wanted to test it with something basic before doing something more advanced
L389[17:59:55] <ZefTheFox> I think I'm gonna have to declare it twice
L390[18:01:04] <ZefTheFox> It **seems** to have worked
L391[18:01:36] <MGR> That's interesting
L392[18:01:40] <ZefTheFox> nevermind.
L393[18:01:57] <ZefTheFox> Alright so there is one last hope
L394[18:02:15] <ZefTheFox> I declare the function in another program and have it global like I was planning to do with the draw function
L395[18:02:48] <Compu> btw where does this app get the time from?
L396[18:03:08] <ZefTheFox> os.date
L397[18:03:25] <Compu> oh? i didn't know the OS had a built in function to give the current time and date
L398[18:03:39] <Mimiru> it gets the in game date/time.. yes
L399[18:04:03] <Compu> hey @20kdc u could add a clock to the top bar thing in kitten os
L400[18:04:33] <ZefTheFox> Adding a clock to the top was the first thing I did when I discovered how to use event.listen and event.timer
L401[18:04:47] <ZefTheFox> Then I made it change the colors to a random color every .1 second
L402[18:04:59] <Compu> that would eat up a lot of CPU time tho
L403[18:05:47] <Compu> a standard date and time clock with no seconds display would need a lot less CPU time
L404[18:06:03] <ZefTheFox> Yeah, when I originally set up the clock I did it once a second
L405[18:06:09] <ZefTheFox> then I decided to make it faster for fun
L406[18:07:03] <Compu> i'm not sure theres an easy way to modify the top bar in kitten os via an app
L407[18:07:31] <Compu> idk does kitten os allow borderless windows and choosing where the window is placed on screen when it opens?
L408[18:11:19] <Wuerfel_21> `kitten os allow borderless windows` ~~INB4 buggy CSDs continue to haunt me even inside vidya garmez~~
L409[18:11:56] <ZefTheFox> I got it working!
L410[18:12:30] <Compu> the ability to choose window placement when an app opens would be useful
L411[18:12:33] <MGR> Nice!
L412[18:12:35] <MGR> What'd you do?
L413[18:13:15] <ZefTheFox> Let me post it to pastebin and see if you can make sense of it
L414[18:14:27] <Kleadron> borderless windows huh
L415[18:14:35] <Izaya> dequbed: I got Prey working nicely once I upgraded from my potato i3
L416[18:14:42] <Kleadron> time to make a virus that puts a giant black borderless window on the screen that you cant remove
L417[18:14:45] <ZefTheFox> https://pastebin.com/VJLLv0RH
L418[18:14:49] <ZefTheFox> https://pastebin.com/PDGGXLQN
L419[18:14:52] <ZefTheFox> There
L420[18:15:52] <MGR> Ah
L421[18:15:55] <dequbed> Izaya: STOP GIVING ME EXCUSES TO BUY MORE GAMES
L422[18:16:50] <Izaya> dequbed: https://spcr.netlify.com/
L423[18:17:30] <dequbed> Fuck you :<
L424[18:17:43] <Izaya> check what games you already have that work well
L425[18:17:45] <Izaya> 's a good site
L426[18:19:43] <Kleadron> make me use linux
L427[18:19:44] <dequbed> Izaya: Unrelated, but wanna play some Battlefront II and relive the good ol' days?
L428[18:19:54] <Izaya> as long as that's the old one
L429[18:19:57] <Izaya> but uh
L430[18:20:00] <Izaya> presently at work
L431[18:20:13] <dequbed> Izaya: I'm not going to insult you by asking you to play an EA title.
L432[18:20:41] <dequbed> We should make a LAN party some day and play BF :D
L433[18:20:42] <Kleadron> play battlefield 2
L434[18:21:18] <Kleadron> play c&c ra3
L435[18:21:33] <Izaya> q3a
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L438[18:38:06] <ZefTheFox> And the way I have it set up allows multiple clocks to run at the same time
L439[18:39:19] <ZefTheFox> http://tinyurl.com/y88nyju2
L440[18:39:24] <ZefTheFox> So I did the obvious thing
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L442[18:42:17] <ZefTheFox> oh my god if I open like 50 of them on top of eachother it's beautiful
L443[18:49:10] <ZefTheFox> With about 200 hundred open it's amazing
L444[18:50:13] <MGR> ?
L445[18:50:28] <ZefTheFox> I've accomplished what I wanted for now
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L447[19:02:09] <Compu> @Kleadron the border in kitten os just shows u the window title and lets u move it around, u close windows via alt+c
L448[19:03:32] <Izaya> or right-clicking the title bar
L449[19:03:51] <Compu> right
L450[19:04:11] <Compu> either way point is, borderless doesn't stop u from closing them
L451[19:04:20] <Izaya> I kinda want left-side title bars because we have a lot more horizontal space than vertical space
L452[19:04:22] <Compu> besides theres much better ways to do viruses
L453[19:04:37] <Izaya> fwiw
L454[19:04:47] <Izaya> KOS NEO programs closing is handled by the program
L455[19:05:01] <Izaya> you can kill it with the task manager but that's not ideal
L456[19:05:27] <Izaya> you could happily just not do anything when told to close
L457[19:05:56] <Compu> yr
L458[19:05:58] <Compu> ye [Edited]
L459[19:09:41] <ZefTheFox> Now I'm going to try making a taskbar
L460[19:10:57] <Compu> have this https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/315881367462477824/501056861588684821/dExBsiBPgOE.jpg
L461[19:11:06] <Kleadron> ?
L462[19:16:06] <ZefTheFox> oh
L463[19:27:57] <Izaya> Zef: app-launchbar
L464[19:30:46] <ZefTheFox> what?
L465[19:31:01] <Kleadron> izaya thats just a disabled taskbar
L466[19:31:09] <Izaya> oh wait is this KOS NEO or no
L467[19:31:41] <ZefTheFox> I'm just confused
L468[19:32:11] <Izaya> Kleadron: too lazy to figure out how to get running processes, and it's not like I can control the WM from a program anyway
L469[19:32:53] <Kleadron> use magic
L470[19:36:41] <Izaya> there's intentionally no way to control the window manager
L471[19:42:52] <Compu> izaya maybe if u requested the root permission?
L472[19:43:06] <Compu> also
L473[19:43:09] <Izaya> even then I'm pretty sure there's no API for it
L474[19:43:15] <Compu> how does the task manager get the running processes list then?
L475[19:43:25] <Compu> task manager is an app
L476[19:43:34] <Izaya> there's a way to do get the list and kill programs
L477[19:43:59] <Izaya> I'm just saying I won't be able to modify what's focused and stuff
L478[19:44:02] <Compu> ah
L479[19:44:27] <Compu> idk maybe u could make a modified version of the WM that adds a taskbar and clock and such?
L480[19:44:42] <Compu> then just have users replace the right lua file and reboot
L481[19:46:10] <Izaya> I mean, I know for a fact you can replace the WM
L482[19:46:19] <Izaya> so you could totally modify it to add requests to do things
L483[19:46:21] <Izaya> like WEMH
L484[19:46:24] <Izaya> EWMH
L485[19:46:36] <Compu> no i mean include the functionality into the WM itself
L486[19:46:48] <Compu> then u retain the security while still getting those features
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L488[19:53:38] <Izaya> then you end up with a bloated WM that itself runs a bunch of stuff
L489[19:54:54] <Izaya> I'm saying we should have something like EWMH
L490[19:57:22] <Izaya> so programs could request various window management functions
L491[20:15:40] <Izaya> how to identify an IRC addict: listen for loud fast typing and strange white-on-black windows open on displays
L492[20:16:29] <AmandaC> Izaya: oops you've invented X11 for Kos neo
L493[20:16:43] <Izaya> oshit
L494[20:16:58] <Izaya> in all seriousness the actual display part of KOS NEO is much cleaner
L495[20:17:09] <Izaya> but I'm not sure how else you'd handle what EWMH does
L496[20:17:22] <AmandaC> Yeah, you'd definitely need to replace it
L497[20:17:30] <Wuerfel_21> add printer support to the WM. Guaranteed good idea.
L498[20:17:47] <Izaya> I guess you could have window properties
L499[20:17:48] * Izaya hmms
L500[20:18:07] <AmandaC> I don't think it's a "public" API gas you've said, but there's nothing stopping you in the permissions model to replace it, even without root
L501[20:18:48] <Kleadron> winman
L502[20:18:49] * Izaya nods
L503[20:18:54] <AmandaC> There's a setting to suppress the normal wm starting, then you just put on a mask and pretend to be it
L504[20:19:09] <Izaya> you can add new permission things so if you want you could have programs request to manage windows
L505[20:19:40] <AmandaC> %tell inari hey, no fair! You left before I could reply... More than 3h later
L506[20:19:40] <MichiBot> AmandaC: inari will be notified of this message when next seen.
L507[20:19:59] <Kleadron> winman.createWindow(x,y,w,h,title,content)
L508[20:20:35] * Izaya squints
L509[20:20:57] <AmandaC> Anyway, ill go irradiate myself some I think. I'm tired of reading my smutty books
L510[20:21:05] <Izaya> enjoy?
L511[20:21:57] <Kleadron> marble blast gold on opencomputers when
L512[20:22:24] <Izaya> AmandaC: bonus points: DesQview X for OC
L513[20:22:32] * Izaya wonders about implementing drawterm
L514[20:22:37] <Izaya> Probably too low-res
L515[20:22:47] <Izaya> unless you did monochrome and braille characters I guess
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L518[21:05:30] <AmandaC> Marble blast might be possible to convince into working under lunitic
L519[21:06:13] <AmandaC> If it's what I think it is at least
L520[21:08:47] <Kleadron> i think you are thinking of marble madness
L521[21:09:04] <Kleadron> Marble Blast is a windows game
L522[21:11:56] <AmandaC> Sos marble madness,just a much older one
L523[21:12:33] * AmandaC waves a stick around, screaming something about her lawn and youth today
L524[21:15:03] <AmandaC> I should figure out which web novel I've downloaded recently is the one that mentions keeping the lewd in it's own chapters. It's definitely not the one I've spent the last couple of days reading.
L525[21:16:33] <AmandaC> But the story of love between the two main chars is too enthalling to put down, despite the lewd
L526[21:23:12] * Saphire pats pats
L527[21:28:24] <AmandaC> ... I found the entry for the story Ive been reading. It's on going.
L528[21:31:40] <Kleadron> wow wine actually works on linux
L529[21:31:53] <Izaya> >wine works on linux
L530[21:31:55] <Izaya> gee really
L531[21:32:19] <Kleadron> whats the issue
L532[21:32:35] <Izaya> where do you think it originated
L533[21:32:36] <Kleadron> oh
L534[21:32:46] <Izaya> where has everyone been talking about it being great over the last 2 months
L535[22:04:13] <Brisingr Aerowing> Just saw a very interesting project on CF
L536[22:04:14] <Brisingr Aerowing> https://minecraft.curseforge.com/projects/openpie
L537[22:04:22] <Brisingr Aerowing> I like it.
L538[22:06:17] <AmandaC> Wine only started having discussions about bothering to work under windows around when win 8 first came out, and mostly as a company layer because ms was killing some direct x thing or another
L539[22:06:37] <AmandaC> Compat*
L540[22:07:50] <AmandaC> Because win 8 was around when MS started growing some balls about breaking apis from the DOS era
L541[22:28:26] <vifino> yep i should not have stayed up
L542[22:28:28] <vifino> but
L543[22:28:51] <vifino> i was very productive. ffmpeg c api sucks.
L544[22:28:53] <vifino> https://github.com/shinyblink/fhconvs/blob/master/src/2fh.c
L545[22:30:26] <vifino> this is probably the most efficient ffmpeg -> farbherd thing possible. it uses the ffmpeg sws stuff to reformat it into the format that farbfeld images want, then uses that to generate the farbherd diff gatter..
L546[22:30:38] <vifino> and now i want death.
L547[22:35:14] <AmandaC> %choose be good or don't
L548[22:35:14] <MichiBot> AmandaC: I sense some don't in your future!
L549[22:48:43] <Saphire> I'm never running again
L550[22:48:49] <Saphire> ... Sprinting I guess?
L551[22:49:50] <AmandaC> Hrm
L552[22:50:07] <AmandaC> %choose actually, be good or really, don't
L553[22:50:08] <MichiBot> AmandaC: I'm 40% actually, be good!
L554[22:50:23] <AmandaC> Good enough. Night nerds.
L555[22:51:00] <Izaya> o/
L556[23:41:34] <Saphire> Arfg
L557[23:41:37] <Saphire> *argh
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