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L1[00:08:53] <payonel> @forecaster opinion poll
L2[00:09:47] <payonel> robot.suck, robot.suckFromSlot, and transposer.transferItem all return boolean. true on successful item tranfser, else false
L3[00:09:59] <payonel> i want to change all of them, to number else false
L4[00:16:52] <payonel> anyways, none of the falseness of the methods have changed, but in place of true, it is a number
L5[00:17:03] <payonel> i've been test playing it, i think it's an simple quality of life improvement
L6[00:23:25] <Izaya> would I be a bad person if I got some 3.5" to 2.5" HDD adapters and stuck them on the back of my motherboard plate to mount SSDs to? case has no provision for 2.5" drives
L7[00:23:48] <logan2611> does it have 3.5" bays
L8[00:24:03] <Izaya> yes above the PSU
L9[00:24:08] <logan2611> have you tried those
L10[00:24:11] <logan2611> ;p
L11[00:24:16] <Izaya> they're all full
L12[00:24:20] <logan2611> oof
L13[00:24:27] <Izaya> I could add the other set of cages but then my graphics card won't fit
L14[00:24:39] <logan2611> you're not a bad person then
L15[00:24:41] <logan2611> ;p
L16[00:24:42] <Izaya> also all the 5.25" bays have DVD drives and various other devices
L17[00:24:51] <logan2611> ok you might be a bad person
L18[00:24:53] <Izaya> I even have a DAT tape drive that's pretty neat IMO
L19[00:25:04] <logan2611> you're not a bad person
L20[00:25:43] <Izaya> the tapes are v expensive for 80GB though
L21[00:25:56] <Izaya> it's too bad they don't make 5.25" HDDs any more
L22[00:26:05] <Izaya> I'd totally pay for a very big, slow HDD
L23[00:26:21] <Izaya> if it can give me like 8TB for cheap because the platters are physically larger I'm all for that
L24[00:29:05] <Izaya> know what really annoys me about this case?
L25[00:29:29] <Izaya> there's space for cable management around the back but there's a big pillar of metal stopping you from running any cables down behind the motherboard
L26[00:34:22] <logan2611> ooff
L27[00:34:28] <logan2611> have you tried a saw
L28[00:34:44] <Izaya> I suspect it would compromise the structural integrity of the case
L29[00:35:12] <logan2611> thats only a minor problem ;p
L30[00:35:21] <Izaya> tis just a flesh wound
L31[00:36:24] <Izaya> https://my.mixtape.moe/ozkyvm.jpg
L32[00:36:34] <Izaya> suffice to say it's not really made with modern machines in mind
L33[00:36:41] <logan2611> I noticed
L34[00:36:42] <logan2611> ;p
L35[00:36:56] <Izaya> but considering it was built circa 1995 I can't really complain
L36[00:37:17] * Izaya hmms
L37[00:37:36] <Izaya> if I added a well placed metal rod I could probably remove a chunk of metal and fit a decent few cables round the back
L38[00:37:46] <logan2611> thats the spirit
L39[00:37:57] <Izaya> I'll look into it
L40[00:38:17] <Izaya> (also, that picture isn't entirely accurate, since then I've added 3 more HDDs, a tape drive, two DVD drives and a PCI-X SCSI card
L41[00:38:28] <Izaya> )
L42[00:41:07] <payonel> i didnt know Izaya believed in gpus
L43[00:41:29] <Izaya> but payonel, I have 3 of them in my system
L44[00:41:37] <Izaya> Or 4, if you count the iGPU
L45[00:41:54] <Izaya> nonetheless I use them mostly to display text so they seem a little pointless
L46[00:41:58] <payonel> but everything of yours i've seen previously is from the 80s
L47[00:42:06] <Izaya> >80s
L48[00:42:09] <payonel> :)
L49[00:42:11] <Izaya> I only have the one C64
L50[00:42:26] <payonel> hyperbole
L51[00:42:31] <Izaya> and that Pentium 2 box has had several GPUs
L52[00:42:50] <Izaya> it had a MX440 and a FX5500 and a Rage3D and a Voodoo 3
L53[00:43:03] <Izaya> none of them really work under modern OSes, funnily enough
L54[00:43:07] <ba7888b72413a16a> Izaya: did you see the lunduke episode about haiku a while back
L55[00:43:12] <ba7888b72413a16a> he followed up with his promise
L56[00:43:16] <ba7888b72413a16a> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-tm7lxHDyE
L57[00:43:17] <MichiBot> Haiku OS Beta - Visual Tour and Impressions | length: 26m 35s | Likes: 24 Dislikes: 1 Views: 233 | by Bryan Lunduke | Published On 1/10/2018
L58[00:43:21] <Izaya> ooooooo
L59[00:43:30] <Izaya> no I didn't
L60[00:43:38] <Izaya> I remember the very long OS livestream though
L61[00:43:51] <Izaya> I wrote in and said that I'd been running Haiku on my laptop for like a year
L62[00:44:24] <ba7888b72413a16a> "Published On 1/10/2018" you tried, MichiBot
L63[00:44:38] <ba7888b72413a16a> wait
L64[00:44:42] <ba7888b72413a16a> it's freakin october
L65[00:44:51] <Izaya> timezones
L66[00:44:52] <ba7888b72413a16a> in 15 minutes
L67[00:45:03] <Izaya> it's been october for 15 hours and 44 minutes
L68[00:45:10] <ba7888b72413a16a> wrong, your time is wrong
L69[00:45:18] <ba7888b72413a16a> :P
L70[00:45:24] <Izaya> alternatively, I am from the future
L71[00:45:30] <ba7888b72413a16a> one thing that I've never understood
L72[00:45:38] * Izaya shakes fist at microwave
L73[00:45:40] <ba7888b72413a16a> why the hell is new years celebrated as the earth rotates
L74[00:45:55] <ba7888b72413a16a> why isn't it celebrated all at once when earth returns to the same position it was at before
L75[00:46:11] <Izaya> because it's more socially acceptable to get fucked up at night
L76[00:48:51] <ba7888b72413a16a> I couldn't find how to prioritize processes in Haiku like he described in the original video
L77[00:49:01] <ba7888b72413a16a> that's a neat feature, probably works a lot better than `nice`
L78[00:49:19] <Izaya> You can set priorities from the team manager widget
L79[00:49:20] <ba7888b72413a16a> I often feel like with linux my `nice` values are just going into /dev/null
L80[00:50:07] <Izaya> Oh yeah uh
L81[00:50:40] <Izaya> https://htmlpreview.github.io/?https://raw.githubusercontent.com/humdingerb/quicktour/master/en/1-start.html
L82[00:51:50] <ba7888b72413a16a> "Urgent priority" and "Real-time priority" actually sounds like it does something
L83[00:52:03] <ba7888b72413a16a> unlike "niceness -20"
L84[00:55:44] <ba7888b72413a16a> wait
L85[00:55:50] <ba7888b72413a16a> haiku is a single user OS?
L86[00:55:53] <ba7888b72413a16a> interesting choice
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L88[00:57:37] <ba7888b72413a16a> Izaya: lol, libreoffice apparantly runs better on haiku than on linux or windows
L89[00:57:40] <ba7888b72413a16a> for lunduke
L90[00:57:40] <Izaya> Multiple CPUs per user, not multiple users per CPU
L91[01:09:56] <ba7888b72413a16a> Izaya: lot more software available than I expected
L92[01:10:12] <Izaya> Yeah there's a decent bit of stuff
L93[01:10:14] <ba7888b72413a16a> blender and krita in particular
L94[01:10:18] <ba7888b72413a16a> surprised me
L95[01:10:21] <Izaya> No ocvm last I tried though :|
L96[01:10:27] <Izaya> Krita uses KDE libs so ez
L97[01:10:45] <Izaya> Blender is bizarre but it's been a thing on haiku for years
L98[01:11:27] <ba7888b72413a16a> though I'm sure both blender and krita run like shit in terms of performance
L99[01:11:36] <ba7888b72413a16a> no gpu for you
L100[01:12:07] <Izaya> Blender on CPU is fast for CPU
L101[01:12:12] <Izaya> But no GPU, yeah
L102[01:12:17] <Izaya> Krita is usable
L103[01:12:26] <Izaya> Shame my graphics tablet doesn't work
L104[01:12:41] <ba7888b72413a16a> no way that would work out of the box
L105[01:12:53] <ba7888b72413a16a> that would be awesome
L106[01:13:02] <payonel> Izaya: hehe :) where does it fail with ocvm?
L107[01:13:18] <ba7888b72413a16a> I'm not even sure how USB drivers work on linux
L108[01:13:23] <Izaya> The experimental/fs stuff isn't quite there
L109[01:13:28] <payonel> ah
L110[01:13:34] <Izaya> ba7888b72413a16a: my graphics tablet only works with evdev under Linux
L111[01:13:39] <ba7888b72413a16a> I read an article recently saying that linux is a microkernel because of ELF USB drivers
L112[01:13:43] <ba7888b72413a16a> (nowadays)
L113[01:13:43] <Izaya> No Windows or OS X drivers to speak of
L114[01:14:50] <Izaya> payonel: that said, I last tried a few months back
L115[01:14:51] <Forecaster> payonel: sounds fine
L116[01:14:58] <Izaya> Time to git pull and try again?
L117[01:15:08] <Forecaster> @ robot things
L118[01:15:24] <payonel> @forecaster i was in context still. thanks for the feedback
L119[01:15:29] <payonel> still testing it, actually
L120[01:15:38] <payonel> just looking for any holes i might have not considered
L121[01:16:36] <Forecaster> just watch out for the rabbit holes
L122[01:18:03] <payonel> :)
L123[01:26:39] <Kleadron> the rabit holes are deadly and will eat you
L124[01:32:05] <payonel> i've been getting a bit better at scala
L125[01:32:08] <payonel> but the odd thing is. ..
L126[01:32:21] <payonel> i enjoy scala, i'm learning how to do weird scala things
L127[01:32:34] <payonel> but then i go to docs or online tips ... and i start to hate scala
L128[01:32:52] <payonel> for some weird reason, the docs are so cryptic and bizarre, they just irritate me
L129[01:33:05] <payonel> and then, reading other people's tips on scala irritate me too
L130[01:33:08] <payonel> it's weird
L131[01:33:48] <payonel> this one blog i was reading, the person says, "return means something different in scala [talks about functions for a bit]. Personally, i've never found a reason to use return in scala"
L132[01:34:12] <Forecaster> uh, what would you use instead of return? oO
L133[01:34:13] <payonel> makes me want to toss things at people
L134[01:34:30] <payonel> @forecaster implicit returns, keeping your functions to a single action
L135[01:34:38] <Forecaster> I don't know what that means
L136[01:34:47] <payonel> scala is weird, leave it at that :)
L137[01:35:26] <payonel> scala does some things with iterators and final-statements in methods that are counter productive in some cases. and just ... bleh
L138[01:36:09] <payonel> having a single return in a function is very c-style. and i dislike it
L139[01:36:33] <payonel> i like early returns, i like a simple `if (bad_arg) return` at the top
L140[01:36:41] <payonel> keep my code simple and scope shallow
L141[01:37:12] <payonel> anyways, that is all
L142[01:40:53] <Kleadron> i have no idea how the gpu.copy function works
L143[01:43:08] <ba7888b72413a16a> I just hate any set-in-stone rules for code
L144[01:43:26] <ba7888b72413a16a> other than "don't use goto outside of breaking out of structured loops"
L145[01:44:19] <ba7888b72413a16a> following stuff like single-return like it's some sort of law will inevitably sometimes result in better code, and sometimes result in worse code
L146[01:46:34] <Kleadron> people will murder you if you talk about using goto in lua
L147[01:47:58] <payonel> @Kleadron you specify a rectangular region of your viewport, then an offset, and it'll copy the region to that offset
L148[01:48:05] <payonel> the region and offset can overlap
L149[01:48:26] <Forecaster> Lua has goto?
L150[01:48:40] <Kleadron> i was testing a rollScreen function that would copy everything on the buttom portion of the screen and move it up by one
L151[01:48:44] <Kleadron> bottom*
L152[01:48:47] <payonel> lua definitely has goto
L153[01:48:57] <Kleadron> but it makes the text go down and right for some stupid reason
L154[01:49:07] <Forecaster> oh, I need to use that allthetime then :P
L155[01:49:12] <payonel> @kleadron probably because you're using 1
L156[01:49:16] <payonel> offsets start at 0
L157[01:49:23] <Kleadron> i am doing it completely wrong
L158[01:49:37] <Kleadron> you guys are super helpful
L159[01:50:08] <Forecaster> no I'm not
L160[01:50:19] <Kleadron> @Forecaster you mark a point to go to like `::label::` and then you use `goto label`
L161[02:32:04] <Kodos> Is the services bot ! or %, I always forget
L162[02:32:20] <Forecaster> services?
L163[02:32:41] <Forecaster> MichiBot is %
L164[02:35:36] <Kodos> %voice
L165[02:35:43] <Kodos> Not sure MichiBot can do that
L166[02:35:47] <Kodos> !voice
L167[02:35:51] <Kodos> Eh, okay then
L168[02:35:56] <Kodos> It's !, btw
L169[02:36:16] <Kodos> Going to bed. Will be unplugged for most of the next few days as I will be rehabbing the house I bought =D
L170[03:47:33] <payonel> another opinion poll!
L171[03:47:37] <payonel> to anyone online
L172[03:47:45] <payonel> for the trading upgrade
L173[03:47:49] <payonel> when you get a trade object
L174[03:47:53] <payonel> a new api method on that userdata
L175[03:48:08] <payonel> trade.getVillagerIndex(): number -- Returns an index of the merchant that provides this trade
L176[03:55:27] <payonel> hmm,....maybe i should call it merchant index
L177[03:55:39] <payonel> as the object in the source is an IMerchant
L178[03:56:02] <payonel> or getGroupIndex
L179[03:57:11] <Forecaster> is that for identifying the merchant?
L180[03:57:15] <Forecaster> I've never used the trading upgrade
L181[03:57:39] <payonel> yes
L182[03:57:40] <payonel> it will be
L183[03:57:49] <payonel> someone is asking to know which trades belong to which merchant
L184[03:58:00] <payonel> i dont want to include the object id, we try not to do that
L185[03:58:12] <payonel> but i've written the code that will give you a sort index
L186[04:01:22] <Forecaster> a sort-of-index
L187[04:01:44] <payonel> hehe
L188[04:01:58] <payonel> get{Villager,Merchant,Group,Sort}Index()
L189[04:01:59] <payonel> hrm
L190[04:02:07] <payonel> i'm thinking Group or Sort
L191[04:14:07] <payonel> going with getSortIndex for now
L192[05:07:02] * Izaya hmms
L193[05:07:08] <Izaya> This is going to take a while to reencode.
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L196[05:28:02] <ba7888b72413a16a> @Forecaster lua has goto but not `break`
L197[05:28:26] <ba7888b72413a16a> I try to make sure I only use goto in ways that could translate to a `break`
L198[05:29:08] <ba7888b72413a16a> wait, lua does have break, just not labeled break
L199[05:29:23] <Izaya> lua has break
L200[05:29:26] <Izaya> it's callled break
L201[05:29:39] <ba7888b72413a16a> yeah
L202[05:29:49] * Izaya revokes ba7888b72413a16a's Lua license
L203[05:32:48] <ba7888b72413a16a> though, some people would call labeled `break` code smell
L204[05:35:14] <ba7888b72413a16a> hm, that could be a lint in some lua linter
L205[05:35:38] <ba7888b72413a16a> always make sure `goto` usage maps cleanly to a labeled `break`/`continue` in languages that support it
L206[05:37:54] <ba7888b72413a16a> oh I remember, it's `continue` that lua is completely missing
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L210[05:49:24] <Izaya> %bye
L211[05:49:25] <MichiBot> Izaya: Oh, well, bye I guess...
L212[05:49:36] <Izaya> how come it never does the snarky one for me
L213[05:50:48] <Lizzian> %bye
L214[05:50:49] <MichiBot> Lizzian: Oh, well, bye I guess...
L215[06:13:24] <Forecaster> %bye!
L216[06:13:26] <MichiBot> Forecaster: Dont let the door hit you on the way out!
L217[06:13:37] <Forecaster> it's not random, they're separate izaya
L218[06:13:45] <Izaya> o-oh
L219[06:13:47] <Izaya> the !
L220[06:14:52] <Forecaster> I could add support for dyn commands to do something like ["option1","option2"] and pick a random one
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L222[08:25:32] <vifino> %bye!
L223[08:25:32] <MichiBot> vifino: Dont let the door hit you on the way out!
L224[08:25:47] <vifino> bit disappointed, really.
L225[08:37:27] <Lizzian> %bye
L226[08:37:28] <MichiBot> Lizzian: Oh, well, bye I guess...
L227[08:37:34] <Lizzian> :/
L228[08:41:07] <vifino> Lizzy!
L229[09:01:37] <Lizzian> vifino!
L230[09:03:07] <Izaya> payonel: re ocvm on Haiku, as far as I can tell, despite --enable-libstdcxx-filesystem-ts being enabled it's not actually being built so now I'm gonna monkey around with the gcc sources until something works
L231[09:03:12] <Izaya> and/or my system breaks
L232[09:03:13] <Izaya> either way
L233[09:06:07] <Lizzian> vifino: did you see my desk upgrade?
L234[09:06:59] <Forecaster> vifino: come up with something better :P
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L236[09:47:19] <Lizzian> %choose 16 or 17 or 18 or 19 or 22 or 23 or 24 or 25 or 26
L237[09:47:20] <MichiBot> Lizzian: You'll want to go with 19.
L238[09:47:24] <Lizzian> k
L239[09:47:35] <Lizzian> actually that's a friday, sod that
L240[09:47:49] <Lizzian> :
L241[09:47:49] <Lizzian> %choose 16 or 17 or 18 or 22 or 23 or 24 or 25
L242[09:47:50] <MichiBot> Lizzian: I received a message from future you, said to go with 25.
L243[09:47:56] <Lizzian> k
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L245[10:03:02] <Forecaster> %loot
L246[10:03:02] <MichiBot> Forecaster: You get a loot box! It contains a twig.
L247[10:22:03] <gamax92> Well, I just got an email about a terms & conditions update, but it actually pointed out exactly what changed, quoted it, and explained why
L248[10:22:22] <Izaya> whoa
L249[10:35:22] <Lizzian> %loot
L250[10:35:22] <MichiBot> Lizzian: You get a loot box! It contains a chocolate bar that was left out in the sun.
L251[10:35:30] <Lizzian> :<
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L253[10:36:02] <Lizzian> MichiBot why do you hang onto this junk? I know i gave you a pocket universe to store it all in but come on!
L254[10:36:22] <Forecaster> you never know when you'll need a chocolate puddle :P
L255[10:37:02] <gamax92> %inv add a sad kitten
L256[10:37:03] * MichiBot summons 'a sad kitten' and adds to her inventory. I could get some good swings in with this.
L257[10:37:46] <Lizzian> %loot
L258[10:37:47] <MichiBot> Lizzian: You get a loot box! It contains a small pile of dirt.
L259[10:37:54] <Lizzian> -_-
L260[10:37:59] <Lizzian> %loot
L261[10:37:59] <MichiBot> Lizzian: You get a loot box! It contains a twig.
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L265[11:31:15] <payonel> Izaya: but if you are trying to build with fs from ts, the namespace in ocvm will need to alias ts
L266[11:31:21] <payonel> and possibly, the linker needs the ts lib as well
L267[11:31:47] <payonel> Izaya: at any rate, if you get it building with changes to ocvm source, i'm sure we can figure out some ifdefs and make it work for haiku
L268[11:31:56] <Izaya> I'll poke at it
L269[11:32:27] <Izaya> Presently though, make'ing gcc isn't even building the fs lib
L270[11:32:43] <Izaya> So I have to figure out where it's decided - or how to force it easily
L271[11:33:40] <payonel> :) the other option is to write an fs_utils_haiku.cpp that gets built in :)
L272[11:34:18] <payonel> and write it from basic c and fstream primitives
L273[11:34:49] <Izaya> That's an option I s'pose
L274[11:35:09] <Izaya> It's generally a bad idea to give me a C(++) compiler but it may be easier
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L276[11:48:37] <Michiyo> fmfl
L277[11:48:45] <Michiyo> a bunch of my SSL certs expired over the weekend it seems
L278[11:48:51] <Michiyo> god damn it panel
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L281[13:45:03] <Forecaster> https://uploadvr.com/oc5-oculus-quest-arena-tech/
L282[13:45:04] <Forecaster> oh my
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L284[13:58:49] <Forecaster> https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2018/10/01/limit-theory-cancelled/
L285[13:58:50] <Forecaster> aw
L286[13:59:00] <Forecaster> but hey, releasing source code
L287[13:59:04] <Forecaster> may turn into something anyway
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L290[14:16:20] <SubBoy> Don't suppose anyone is around that feels like helping with a crash?
L291[14:19:21] <Forecaster> depends
L292[14:19:27] <Forecaster> if you've crashed a plane you're on your own
L293[14:20:06] <SubBoy> Saddly, no plane to crash. I'm trying to add OC to StoneBlock
L294[14:21:35] <SubBoy> Let me find a place to put the log...
L295[14:22:18] <Forecaster> "sadly no plane crash" is not something most people would say
L296[14:22:19] <Forecaster> :P
L297[14:22:59] <SubBoy> Looking for a spot to upload the crash log, not sure I understand what it's saying.
L298[14:23:07] * Izaya recommends 0x0.st
L299[14:23:16] <Forecaster> http://hastebin.com
L300[14:24:58] <SubBoy> What will science do next. https://hastebin.com/wamamupehe.php
L301[14:25:20] <SubBoy> Also easier to read than notepad
L302[14:26:55] <Forecaster> are you using the correct version?
L303[14:27:50] <SubBoy> Well, Got it from curseforge, says MC1.12.2-1.7.2.67
L304[14:28:56] <SubBoy> Stoneblock is running 1.12.2, and that's the only 1.12.2 on curseforge.
L305[14:29:17] <Forecaster> yeah that should be fine
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L307[14:36:31] <SubBoy> There aren't any dependencies are there? I couldn't find a list
L308[14:36:37] <Forecaster> no
L309[14:37:00] <SubBoy> I didn't think so. It does stop loading on OC
L310[14:37:27] <Michiyo> com/typesafe/config/ConfigMergeable I remember this...
L311[14:37:29] <Michiyo> wtf causes it
L312[14:38:09] <Michiyo> I *THINK* it'd a broken forge from the modpack.
L313[14:38:14] <Michiyo> but I won't swear to it.
L314[14:38:32] <Michiyo> using the curse client, right?
L315[14:38:56] <SubBoy> Right, twitch now
L316[14:39:14] <SubBoy> I read through https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/1911 but not sure what to do, or if it's the same
L317[14:39:14] <Michiyo> right.. yeah... for some reason they fail to download some deps.
L318[14:39:15] <MichiBot> Title: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: com/typesafe/config/ConfigMergeable | Posted by: vagaprime | Posted: Sat Jun 25 23:15:25 CDT 2016 | Status: closed
L319[14:40:23] <Inari> too cute https://www.facebook.com/moeshitpost/videos/305626506931887/
L320[14:41:29] * Michiyo grumbles at curse/twitch
L321[14:41:36] <Michiyo> this has been an issue for aaages
L322[14:42:20] <SubBoy> Okay, makes sense. Is there a "force redownload everything", or the like?
L323[14:45:14] <SubBoy> Am I safe just copying over the contents of my server's libraries? and does that mean it'll be ok on the server?
L324[14:45:40] <Michiyo> server is likely fine
L325[14:45:54] <Michiyo> and yeah you can copy the libraries over
L326[14:53:35] <SubBoy> Well, that's encouraging. I have a new type of crash. I'm not sure if it's good news though. Invalid id 4096 - maximum id range exceeded. ?
L327[14:54:57] <SubBoy> Now at https://hastebin.com/uzutepocuw.sql .
L328[14:55:42] <Izaya> https://i.redd.it/2toxas4t9mp11.jpg
L329[14:55:43] <SubBoy> Meawhile, the server clone came up just fine.
L330[14:56:12] <Michiyo> o_O t hat means too many blocks were registered...
L331[14:56:20] <Michiyo> make sure configs are the same on server and client?
L332[14:57:59] <SubBoy> Just copied over the OC configs from server to client
L333[14:59:09] <Michiyo> For that error, I doubt it's just OC, for it to be more than 2096 blocks registering something major is fucky..
L334[14:59:15] <Michiyo> 4096*
L335[15:00:07] <SubBoy> Ok, time for a clean install of the modpack, then the extra mods
L336[15:00:54] <Izaya> man do you remember when there was a 128 block and 128 item limit?
L337[15:02:06] <SubBoy> I remember the mod that added slices of blocks using metadata, and by that I mean I forgot the name. Having sixty pages in NEI was sorta nuts
L338[15:04:37] <SubBoy> BTW, I'm adding OC not just because it's awesome, but also for the immersive railroad support, so it's also in the mix and not part of the pack.
L339[15:07:43] <SubBoy> I mean, should I be concerned that there's no libraries folder in the curse install folder?
L340[15:07:56] <Skye> doesn't OC download the libraries on first run
L341[15:08:06] <Izaya> https://i.redd.it/j2nlhhhwtlp11.jpg
L342[15:08:38] <Kleadron> <insert something saying "whats wrong with javascript" here>
L343[15:08:47] <Izaya> I have a book on that
L344[15:09:01] <Forecaster> what's wrong with x? lots of things
L345[15:09:14] <Kleadron> whats wrong with everything
L346[15:09:20] <Kleadron> why is everything
L347[15:09:34] <Forecaster> the answer to "what's wrong with everything" is "everything"
L348[15:09:53] <Izaya> https://i.redd.it/h7nt4keyd7oy.jpg
L349[15:16:38] <Izaya> https://i.redd.it/9fwxuxuqfmp11.png
L350[15:21:47] <Forecaster> psh, so fake, it should be way bigger
L351[15:21:48] <Forecaster> D:
L352[15:24:02] <SubBoy> Sorry if I'm being spammy, so it's tiny progressions that has the 4096 block problem, but removing OC fixes it.
L353[15:29:27] <SubBoy> Similar issues on github still point for the launcher though. Hrm.
L354[15:32:50] <SubBoy> Wait, no, that issue was the same as the first one in a modpack with tiny progressions in it.
L355[15:40:10] <SubBoy> Oh, well that's odd. The server did infact crash also, it just... kept running and has a live console to put commands into?
L356[15:45:41] <SubBoy> Apparently there's a mod called NotEnoughIDs ... Let's see if that works.
L357[15:58:25] <SubBoy> And then that fixes it, awesome. Trains, Computers, and a very dwarfy setting. thanks again for the advice, I would of had a very hard time with the library thing on my own. I think using the "repair minecraft install" fixes it, but since it uses the same minecraft folder for all modpack instances, that's sorta odd that I had to do it again. I'll j
L358[15:58:25] <SubBoy> ust provide all of the above to the few people I plan to play with
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L362[17:23:38] <gamax92> bleh
L363[17:23:46] <gamax92> router is constantly overloaded, load average of 5.5
L364[17:44:43] <AmandaC> %choose halucinate or wait more for drugs to work
L365[17:44:43] <MichiBot> AmandaC: The proof is in the pudding. Definitely wait more for drugs to work.
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L367[18:06:05] <gamax92> well, updated router, seem okayish now
L368[18:07:16] <AmandaC> %choose new or old
L369[18:07:16] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Elementary dear Watson, old is the obvious choice!
L370[18:08:28] <AmandaC> %choose feathers or fire
L371[18:08:28] <MichiBot> AmandaC: I'm 40% fire!
L372[18:08:43] * AmandaC nods, cuddles up, reads the last ~100 pages of a book
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L375[18:36:13] <Kleadron> i found AmandaC's avatar in the lubuntu installer
L376[18:39:51] <Warix3> I asked about screen resolutions a few days ago, and someone said I can change it in the config. But I can't find that option. I didn't go through every single option but I searched for "screen" "resolution" and similar
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L381[20:59:23] <AmandaC> @kleadron makes sense, that's where I found it too (well, the GNOME account screen).s Though I googled a bit for a higher resolution version of it
L382[20:59:44] <Kleadron> ok lol
L383[21:00:20] <AmandaC> GNOME picked it up from a wikimedia image that was released under the creative Commons
L384[21:01:13] <AmandaC> Then I Google image searched for the highest resolution version I could find, which turned out to be something like 460x520 or something
L385[21:02:16] <AmandaC> %choose be good or be bad
L386[21:02:16] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Out of these two choices? I'd say be bad.
L387[21:02:20] <AmandaC> Kk
L388[21:02:46] <AmandaC> First, need to wait for the rain to stop. Def. Made the right call not finishing this web novel on the plane
L389[21:03:37] <Kleadron> wow its raining for everyone
L390[21:04:02] <Kleadron> its raining for you its raining for other people and its raining for me
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L392[21:28:25] <AmandaC> https://66.media.tumblr.com/13bd347979b801bd5f0d6bf2a9288799/tumblr_no5bjxsSga1s7yxtuo1_400.gif
L393[21:28:56] * AmandaC slinks back off to read more
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