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L10[04:41:39] <MichiBot> Izaya REMINDER:
make a template that works in both LibreOffice and MS word with
nice fonts
L12[04:47:48]
<Forecaster>
I did not know that was a thing
L13[04:48:02] <Izaya> Good word.
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L16[05:38:10] <Saphire> Welp
L17[05:38:17] <Saphire> I haven't been on
irc forever >.>
L18[05:39:46]
<Forecaster>
ohno
L20[06:12:39]
<MGR>
Wow
L21[06:15:44] <Saphire> The end paragraph
is glorious
L22[06:15:57]
<MGR>
Yep
L23[06:16:16]
<MGR> I
kinda wish he non-lethally shocked himself
L24[06:17:58] <Saphire> Izaya: latex
L25[06:18:04] <Saphire> AHEM, LaTeX
L26[06:18:14] <Izaya> both options are
good
L27[06:18:27] <Saphire> ...latex is nice to
cover someone in.
L28[06:18:33] <Izaya> that is, the
typesetting language and the material
L29[06:18:40] <Izaya> but uh
L30[06:18:56] <Izaya> meant to use word for
work but that's not an option at home so
L31[06:19:17] <Saphire> Oh :C
L32[06:20:00] <Izaya> as such, I need to
juggle having the formatting mostly work on both
L34[06:22:38] <Saphire> ...what
L35[06:22:46] <Saphire> `final private
static @Root Kitty kitty = Kitty.make();`
L36[06:34:06]
<MGR>
"Throughout our conversation, this armpit piranha keeps trying
to escape its owner’s grip." --- Quote 1/2
L37[06:34:14]
<MGR> I'm
going to have to remember the armpit piranha phrase
L39[06:35:58] <Saphire> Yeah, I found that
^^
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L41[07:29:42] <Corded> * <Lizzian>
boops the Saphire
L42[07:35:43] *
vifino boops the @Lizzian
L43[07:41:38] *
Saphire boops vifino!
L44[07:42:25] <Corded> * <Forecaster>
steals all the boops and puts them in a pile
L45[07:43:19] <Corded> * <Lizzian>
boops the vifino
L46[07:54:48] *
vifino falls over
L47[07:54:51] <vifino> oof.
L49[08:16:31] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Inari
will be notified of this message when next seen.
L50[08:16:32] <MichiBot>
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L51[09:13:00] <AmandaC> %choose more
livestream or waves
L52[09:13:01] <MichiBot> AmandaC: more
livestream is for cool kids!
L53[09:23:32] <Corded> * <Lizzian>
picks vifino up
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L57[10:46:48]
<xarses>
Guest21800 was payonel in disguise *gasps*
L58[10:53:40] <payonel> hehe, i was here
all along!
L59[10:54:08] <Izaya> but who was
phone
L60[10:54:49] <payonel> anyone who mods
know what would, in a custom inventory situation, cause items you
try to pick up return/snap back to the slot you tried to pick them
up from?
L62[10:57:11] <Vexatos> if you mean
something like that
L63[10:57:28] <Vexatos> this is specific to
dropping items though
L64[10:57:32] <payonel> imagine you open a
chest, and you click on an item from your main inventory
L65[10:57:54] <payonel> the ItemStack is
now your held item, and you'd like to move the mouse to click on a
slot in the custom inventory area
L66[10:58:10] <payonel> but, within a frame
or two, the item you picked up snaps back to its original
slot
L67[10:58:26] <Vexatos> why? I would just
use a custom slot that disallows that
L68[10:58:34] <payonel> you can shift click
the item, which seems to work, until you check your inventory later
and see it didnt actually move
L69[10:58:42] <payonel> i dont want it to
snap back
L70[10:58:47] <payonel> it is doing this TO
me
L71[10:59:33] <payonel> i'm trying to
figure out what evil demon has possessed my code and is robbing the
item from my hand
L72[10:59:43] <payonel> it is quite
rude
L74[11:01:24] <payonel> it only affects
rack-access gui. openning the gui from a held item works fine
L75[11:02:47] <Vexatos> sounds like a sync
issue ,-,
L76[11:03:24] <payonel> i had a similar
thought, but i couldn't see a difference in my code compared to
other rack access
L77[11:08:27] <Izaya> %remindme 12h you're
an idiot
L78[11:08:28] <MichiBot> I'll remind you
about "you're an idiot" at 09/25/2018 11:08:27 PM
L79[11:08:57] <Izaya> and with that I
retire for the day, enjoy, everyone
L80[11:09:35] <AmandaC> payonel: halp,
stationeers broke something my base depends on for power, so I
can't play more unntil the beta updates again. D:
L81[11:14:58]
<xarses>
I've seen things "pop" back on MP when the client
disagrees with the server, and it puts it back because you don't
have ___
L82[11:29:12]
<MGR> “No,
no. It’s not lost; they just can’t find it." --- Quote
2/2
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L84[11:51:01] <Inari> Gon~ Kon~
L85[11:59:28] <Michiyo> %xkcd 2050
L87[12:06:25] *
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L88[12:14:59] <payonel> AmandaC: i can't
play stationeers anymore
L89[12:15:03] <payonel> it'll consume
me
L90[12:16:13] <AmandaC> haha
L91[12:23:32] <Michiyo> I can't play
stationeers at all, I have no idea what it is.
L92[12:24:14] <payonel> Michiyo: please,
don't play it
L93[12:24:20] <payonel> i say that because
i care about you
L94[12:28:23]
<Forecaster>
I haven't tried that yet
L95[12:41:47] <AmandaC> payonel: I respect
that though, tbh. I've intentionally kept a piece of news from you
for that reason, also. :P
L96[12:42:25] <AmandaC> the only reason I'm
not playing now, ignoring the world, is because they broke my power
set up, so I'd be without energy after my batteries drained
L97[12:43:11] <AmandaC> ... she says, as
she launches it to test an iteration of her PRoton patch
L98[12:48:39]
<Compu> hey
can anyone help me out with a bigreactors thing?
L99[12:51:32]
<MGR> What
do you need help with?
L100[12:51:48]
<Compu> wait
a sec
L101[12:51:59] <AmandaC> "Don't ask
to ask, just ask" is a good rule to live by
L102[12:53:04]
<Compu>
figured it out, was using enderium instead of resonant ender by
mistake
L103[12:53:20]
<MGR>
?
L104[12:58:48]
<Compu>
what's the best turbine materials?
L105[12:59:36]
<MGR> I
think it's the ludicrite?
L106[13:23:08]
<Forecaster>
That's ludicritious
L107[13:37:55]
<Compu>
woo
L108[13:37:58]
<Compu>
reactor is running
L109[13:38:05]
<Compu>
spinning up via computer control now
L110[13:38:08]
<MGR>
Hoorah!
L111[13:45:07] <payonel> AmandaC: what is
this secret piece of news?! :)
L112[13:45:11] <payonel> TEMPT ME
L113[13:46:44] <AmandaC> I REFUSE
L114[13:46:58] <AmandaC> I ALSO BARRED
INARI FROM SPREADING THE NEWS WHEN I MENTIONED IT TO HER
ELSENET
L115[13:47:53] <AmandaC> assuming she even
remembers at this point, given she's been playing Starbound with
her nii so much lately
L116[13:48:19] *
AmandaC knocks Inari's glass of water onto the keyboard, angry at
her lack of attention
L117[13:49:10] <payonel> -_-
L118[13:49:36] <AmandaC> %choose waves or
no waves
L119[13:49:37] <MichiBot> AmandaC: If I've
learned anything in life it's that you always pick waves
L120[13:49:51] <AmandaC> %choose musical
waves or funny waves
L121[13:49:51] <MichiBot> AmandaC: I'm 40%
funny waves!
L122[13:50:31] <payonel> %choose beg
AmandaC to tell me or wait
L123[13:50:32] <MichiBot> payonel: You
*could* do beg AmandaC to tell me, I guess.
L124[13:50:45] <payonel> pleeeeease!
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L126[13:50:56] <AmandaC> /msg MichiBot
<secret news>
L127[13:51:17] <AmandaC> :P
L128[13:51:17]
<Kleadron>
lolwat
L129[13:51:42] <AmandaC> fine, I'll tell
you, but I accept no responsibilty if you relapse.
L130[13:51:56] <payonel> :>
L131[13:52:08] <AmandaC> They added
Integrated Circuits as mentioned on that one reddit suggestion
thread
L132[13:52:30] <AmandaC> the latest beta
broke reading from devices on them, rendering my solar farm
impotent.
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L134[13:53:22] <payonel> =D
yeah.........those look really cool
L135[13:53:30] <payonel> :) i do lurk and
check their updates channel
L136[13:53:34] <AmandaC> haha
L137[13:53:44] <payonel> seriously, a form
of oc and openos on those computers would be really nice
L138[13:53:57] <payonel> i wish they
understood what i want in terms of a modal window
L139[13:54:15] <payonel> well, i guess i'm
glad they dont
L140[13:54:15] <payonel> :)
L141[13:57:23]
<Kleadron>
what
L142[13:57:30]
<Kleadron>
did they finally update that mod
L143[13:57:41]
<Kleadron>
nope
L144[13:57:41]
<Kleadron>
damnit
L145[13:57:45] <AmandaC> mod? Stationeers
is it's own game
L146[13:58:11]
<Kleadron>
oh
L147[13:58:14]
<Kleadron>
nvm
L149[14:07:35] <Inari> AmandaC: What
news?
L150[14:07:41] <AmandaC> Inari: ICs being
added. :P
L151[14:07:47] <payonel> Inari: integrated
circuits in stationeers
L152[14:07:48] <Inari> Oh, that
L153[14:08:22] <Corded> * <Lizzian>
needs to continue stationeers at some point
L154[14:08:48] <Inari> I'm still waiting
for them to add a reason to do stuff
L155[14:09:09] <AmandaC> you and your
german "reason" requirement! :P
L156[14:09:26] <Inari> Heh
L157[14:09:36] <Inari> I mean it's cool
and all I can make ap ressurized base
L158[14:09:41] <Inari> But thats effort
and if theres no reason to
L159[14:09:43] <Inari> Why should I
L160[14:09:50] <AmandaC> to grow plants to
survive!
L161[14:09:58] <Inari> Yeah, but they need
like a tiny space
L162[14:10:00] <Inari> Not a huge
base
L163[14:10:21] <Inari> Plus, survive what
for :f
L164[14:10:26] <Inari> There isn't that
much content so far
L165[14:10:27] <payonel> Inari: i want to
have a server with a few of us playing
L166[14:10:33] <payonel> one person works
on food, another power
L167[14:10:41] <payonel> another
hvac
L168[14:10:48] <AmandaC> dedis are still
fucky
L169[14:11:03] <payonel> yeah, i'm saying
-- that's what i look forward to getting out the of game
L170[14:11:08] <AmandaC> ah
L171[14:11:14] <Inari> Introducing
HVAC
L172[14:11:27] <AmandaC> hvac =
atmospherics
L173[14:11:32] <Inari> The Hardcore Video
Audio Codec. Lewd stuff in a whole new dimension
L174[14:11:42] <payonel> ^.^
L175[14:12:00] *
payonel assigns Inari to hvac
L176[14:12:27] <AmandaC> wait, that's not
her already-assigned role?
L177[14:29:52] <Corded> * <Lizzian>
checks the logs
L178[14:30:06]
<Lizzian>
yep, that assign failed because it already exists
L179[14:33:02] <payonel> Lizzy: i'm
working on a mod feature and it's giving me trouble :( when i have
my custom inventory open, i cannot pick up items from slots (they
get auto-snapped back)
L180[14:33:05] <payonel> like a sync'ing
issue
L181[14:33:20] <payonel> i'm not sure who
to ask ... or ... what to set a break point on ... or ... :(
L182[14:33:31] *
Lizzy nods
L183[14:33:37] <payonel> there is code all
over the place doing custom inventories, but i dont see a
difference and yet mine doesn't work
L184[14:33:41] <Lizzy> i am probably not
the person to ask
L185[14:33:52] <Lizzy> since i don't yet
have any minecraft mods
L186[14:34:00] <payonel> coo
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L206[14:41:20]
<Forecaster>
agh
L207[14:41:26] <InariWB> Meow?
L208[14:41:45] <Michiyo> What, exactly, is
a CommandItem? lol
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L211[14:42:04] <InariWB> payonel is doing
mods other than OC?
L212[14:42:06] <InariWB> Blasphemy
L213[14:42:28] <InariWB> Michiyo: An item
that allows you to command someone else to do anything you
please
L214[14:42:28] <payonel> InariWB: :)
L215[14:42:33] <payonel> no it is for
OC
L216[14:42:41]
<Forecaster>
basically it represents a row in the commands table
L217[14:42:49] <Michiyo> Ah..
L218[14:43:11] <InariWB> So like an
Entry
L219[14:43:15] <InariWB> or a Record
L220[14:43:16] <Michiyo> I decided to add
per channel dyncmds bumped into that and was wondering
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L222[14:43:45] <Michiyo> maybe I'll play
with this at home, after I finish all of my work I couldn't do at
work
L223[14:43:47] <Michiyo> thanks Fore
L224[14:44:02]
<Lizzian>
%blame @Forecaster
L225[14:44:02] *
MichiBot blames @Forecaster for E.T for Atari being
terrible!
L226[14:44:18] <Michiyo> She likes blaming
him for that
L227[14:44:28]
<Forecaster>
it's supposed to enable me to get rid of the other database
interaction stuff, instead abstacting it behind classes
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L229[14:44:32] <AmandaC> maybe she knows
something we don;t?
L230[14:44:36] <InariWB> %blame E.T.
L231[14:44:36] *
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L233[14:44:48]
<Forecaster>
but it doesn't work correctly yet due to some weird conflict
L234[14:45:06]
<Kleadron>
%blame the communist linux penguins
L235[14:45:13]
<Kleadron>
wot
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L237[14:45:16] <InariWB> #fail
L238[14:45:25]
<Kleadron>
dumb bot smh
L239[14:45:35] *
Michiyo kicks @Kleadron
L240[14:45:50]
<Forecaster>
do %test
L241[14:45:51] <InariWB> ~markov
Corded
L242[14:45:53]
<Lizzian>
She's not dumb she just doesn't like you
L243[14:45:58] <ocdoc> I think I
understand. Time I didn't even name ?
L244[14:46:02] <payonel> github 500
L245[14:46:10] <payonel> the world is
ending
L246[14:46:10] <InariWB> I like that
L247[14:46:12]
<Forecaster>
@Kleadron do %test
L248[14:46:13] *
InariWB adds it to quit quotes
L249[14:46:15]
<Kleadron>
OK
L250[14:46:17]
<Lizzian>
%test
L251[14:46:17] <MichiBot> Lizzian:
No.
L252[14:46:20] <payonel> GITHUB IS
GONE
L253[14:46:21]
<Kleadron>
%test
L254[14:46:21] <MichiBot> Kleadron:
No.
L255[14:46:28] *
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L256[14:46:31]
<Forecaster>
well she's not ingoring you at least
L257[14:46:32]
<Forecaster>
:P
L258[14:46:37]
<Forecaster>
ignoring*
L259[14:46:39]
<Kleadron>
whats going on with github?
L260[14:46:42]
<Mimiru>
%blame @Kleadron
L261[14:46:42] *
MichiBot blames @Kleadron for space being cold!
L262[14:46:44] <payonel> 500!!
L263[14:46:55] <AmandaC> payonel: don't
worry, they're just moving everything over to Microsoft Azure
L264[14:47:01] *
payonel faints
L265[14:47:18] <Michiyo> yay, my azure
services will get better response time!
L266[14:47:44] <Michiyo> All systems
reporting at 100%
L267[14:47:45] <Michiyo> lmao
L268[14:47:53] <payonel> Michiyo: i
checked the same
L270[14:47:58] <payonel> yeah, not really
:)
L271[14:48:01] <AmandaC> I'm not convinced
anybody uses Azure for anything other then Enterprise™
L273[14:48:12] <MichiBot> Tue Sep 25
14:47:50 CDT 2018 @githubstatus: We are investigating reports of
elevated error rates.
L274[14:48:23] <Michiyo> we use Azure here
at work
L275[14:48:27] <Michiyo> I'm not 100% sure
for what
L276[14:48:39] <Michiyo> I think it's
because someone said a lot of buzzwords.
L277[14:48:51] <AmandaC> GitLab moved off
Azure to GCP because it was so terrible, forcing them to use NFS
instead of providing block storage, and stupid-expensive. once
their large sum of credit MS gave them ran out, they started
moving
L278[14:49:25] <payonel> we run everything
internally
L279[14:49:48] <AmandaC> Enterprise™ and I
guess XBox-targetted games
L280[14:49:58] <AmandaC> ( I noticed NMS
apparently uses Azure for something or other )
L281[14:50:03]
<Lizzian> my
work is planning on using AzureAD for various stuff because it's
going to be easier to set up and manage multiple domains from
it
L282[14:53:06] <AmandaC> %choose snack or
no snack
L283[14:53:07] <MichiBot> AmandaC: I've
heard no snack is in these days
L284[14:53:12] <AmandaC> :(
L285[14:58:41] <Michiyo> I wish we ran
everything internally
L286[14:59:19] <Michiyo> we have 2 online
providers that customers access for the "Cloud" option
for our software..
L287[14:59:33] <Michiyo> one of them had a
cryptolocker hit them a couple of weeks ago
L288[14:59:45] <AmandaC> O.o
L289[14:59:50] <AmandaC> as in, the host
machines?
L290[14:59:57] <Michiyo> yeah
L291[15:00:00] <AmandaC> wtf
L292[15:00:14] <AmandaC> who the fuck uses
Hyper-V for a "cloud" provider!?
L293[15:00:22] <AmandaC> I don't think
even MS is that stupid
L294[15:00:50] <Michiyo> Seems one of
their admin accounts was compromised and it hit 100+ servers,
thankfully this isn't MS that runs this but they still use
HyperV
L295[15:02:09] <Michiyo> our new provider
is VMWare based
L296[15:02:46] <AmandaC> ... I thought all
the legit providers used Xen or at least a qemu + linux
distro
L297[15:03:00] *
Michiyo shrugs
L298[15:03:12] <Michiyo> crap.. lunch
time
L299[15:03:15] <Michiyo> afk
L300[15:03:16] <AmandaC> granted,that's a
level I don't care much about
L301[15:34:15] ⇦
Quits: InariWB (InariWB!~Pinkishu@p5DEC6353.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
(Quit: 'The wave-particle duality is like a struggle between a
tiger and a shark: each is supreme in his own element but helpless
in that of the other.')
L302[15:47:01]
<Compu> rack
capacitors seem to have a network address, do they have function
calls?
L303[15:49:44]
<Compu> hey
@20kdc in metamachine how do i name the VM?
L304[15:57:10]
<20kdc> You
have to name it upon creation, IIRC
L305[15:58:30]
<20kdc>
Basically, where it says "New VM:", you type the name,
then press Enter to confirm. Again, if I recall correctly.
L306[16:12:36] <payonel> ok i'll admit,
there is a rack capacitor?
L307[16:12:46] <payonel> i thought only
the disk drive and servers were rack mountable
L308[16:12:50] <payonel> @compu?
L309[16:13:29] <AmandaC> maybe Vex finally
got around to adding them?
L310[16:14:04] <payonel> AmandaC: i just
checked in the 1.12 branch
L311[16:14:07] <payonel> as i doubted
myself on that
L312[16:14:10] <payonel> did not see
it
L313[16:14:16] <payonel> so if he
did....he is sneaky about it
L314[16:14:24] <payonel> i.e. i have no
idea where/how it exists
L315[16:14:31] <payonel> @status
@feep
L316[16:14:31]
<Discord>
Feep is currently IDLE
L317[16:14:36] <payonel> @Feep !!!!!
L318[16:14:45] *
payonel feeps the feep
L319[16:14:53]
<Feep>
ohi!
L320[16:14:55] <payonel> hi
L321[16:14:59]
<Feep>
?
L322[16:15:02] <payonel> you are repro'ing
the robot move issue?!
L323[16:15:06]
<Feep> oh
god that smiley looks horrifying
L324[16:15:08] <payonel> i've never seen
this, never been able to repro it
L325[16:15:11]
<Feep> yeah
but I don't have console access
L326[16:15:16]
<Feep>
public server
L327[16:15:18] <payonel> it's on a
server?
L328[16:15:19] <payonel> hrm
L329[16:15:28]
<Feep> could
wait for the op, they're usually around sometime
L330[16:15:31] <payonel> can you repro
it?
L331[16:15:33] <AmandaC> a server with
some kind of tick rate thing
L332[16:15:35]
<Feep> it's
persistent
L333[16:15:38] <payonel> but
L334[16:15:44]
<Feep> like,
it's currently happening and continuing to happen
L335[16:15:48]
<Feep>
entity borders shows nothing
L336[16:15:49] <payonel> are you able to
create new blocking spaces?
L337[16:15:52]
<Feep>
no
L338[16:15:55] <payonel> bleh
L339[16:16:02]
<Feep> or
rather, I don't wanna pick up the bot and try
L340[16:16:15]
<Feep> cause
I just know it's not gonna happen again while people are looking
:p
L341[16:16:22] <payonel> tell me about
this space
L342[16:16:25] <payonel> what used to be
there
L343[16:16:30]
<Feep> also,
weird thing: no entity hitbox, but if I throw a melon slice into it
it temporarily works
L344[16:16:31]
<Feep>
nothing
L345[16:16:33]
<Feep> like,
granite
L346[16:16:45]
<Feep> like,
stone [Edited]
L347[16:16:46] <payonel> temporarily
works?
L348[16:16:51] <payonel> so, you can move
again?
L349[16:16:55]
<Feep> yeah,
the robot can move into the space
L350[16:16:59] <payonel> then the next
stone it cuts out, blocks it again?
L351[16:17:00]
<Feep> but
only until I pick up the melonslice
L352[16:17:06]
<Feep> nono,
I move into, back up
L353[16:17:10] <payonel> moving back and
forward again?
L354[16:17:10] <payonel> ok
L355[16:17:13]
<Feep> pick
up melonslice, can't move into again
L356[16:17:19] <payonel> ok easy fix
L357[16:17:26] <payonel> spit melon seeds
perpetually in front of robot
L358[16:17:27] <payonel> done,
closed
L359[16:17:41]
<Feep>
XD
L360[16:17:48] <payonel> you're
welcome
L361[16:18:12] <payonel> can you create
another robot?
L362[16:18:14]
<Feep>
robot.suck() says false..
L363[16:18:18] <payonel> and have it hit
that position from another angle?
L364[16:18:21]
<Feep>
probably, but it'll take a while, this server is ~slow~
L365[16:18:28] <payonel> ok
L366[16:18:30]
<Feep> I can
just navigate around it, hang on
L367[16:19:16] <payonel> can you place a
stone there?
L368[16:19:27] <payonel> and have the
robot break it again?
L369[16:19:40]
<Feep> it's
happening in the adjacent block too
L370[16:19:45] <payonel> >.<
L371[16:19:47]
<Feep> tried
to place a stone, break the stone, still happens
L372[16:20:03] <AmandaC> is it on a chunk
boundry?
L373[16:20:06]
<Feep> and
from the left too
L374[16:20:07]
<Feep>
no
L375[16:20:11]
<Feep> okay,
it's those two blocks.
L376[16:20:33] <AmandaC> are you at some
extreme x/y?
L377[16:20:40]
<Feep> ...
wtf
L378[16:20:48]
<Feep> an
oc:afterimage just appeared in the first block
L379[16:20:51]
<Feep>
despite the robot never being in it
L380[16:21:03] <payonel> well, it tried to
be there
L381[16:21:07] <payonel> though
L382[16:21:11] <payonel> you said it was,
with the melons
L383[16:21:33]
<Feep> I
cannot throw the melon into that block anymore, due to the
afterimage
L384[16:21:41]
<Feep> it
did only just appear
L385[16:21:47] <payonel> sure, but when
you could, the robot WAS there, right?
L386[16:22:20] <payonel> heh
L387[16:22:22]
<Feep>
nope
L388[16:22:25]
<Feep> it
was never in that block
L389[16:22:34]
<Feep> OH,
originally
L390[16:22:36]
<Feep>
sorry, yes.
L391[16:22:39] ⇦
Parts: payonel (payonel!~payonel@2607:5300:61:8d9::bad:c0de)
(Leaving))
L392[16:22:42]
⇨ Joins: payonel
(payonel!~payonel@2607:5300:61:8d9::bad:c0de)
L393[16:22:43]
zsh sets mode: +v on payonel
L394[16:22:45] *
payonel curses
L395[16:22:46]
<Feep> but
the afterimage appeared, afaics, after I moved out of it.
L396[16:22:51] *
AmandaC sourceforges
L397[16:23:08] <payonel> feep: i wonder if
i can hack a check for oc transient objects
L398[16:23:18] <payonel> and if so, just
remove it and let the robot move
L399[16:23:28] <payonel> obviously, i'll
have to test robots competing for the same position
L400[16:23:34]
<Feep> I
want to clarify again
L401[16:23:42]
<Feep> the
block was *not* blocking the robot from moving.
L402[16:23:47] <payonel> because i bet it
is our transient movement object that is blocking the robot
L403[16:23:47]
<Feep> it
did say "nil *entity*".
L404[16:23:59] <payonel> who said nil
entity where?
L405[16:24:03] <payonel> the move error
string?
L406[16:24:05]
<Feep>
print(robot.moveForward())
L407[16:24:11] <payonel> huh
L408[16:24:14]
<Feep> maybe
some entity id there would be handy :p
L409[16:24:18] <payonel> well
L410[16:24:22] <payonel> :P
L411[16:24:26] <payonel> ok but
L412[16:24:26]
<Feep>
^^
L413[16:24:29] <payonel> the image is
there now?
L414[16:24:32]
<Feep>
yes
L415[16:24:35] <payonel> and the robot
can't enter it?
L416[16:24:38]
<Feep> but I
bet if I break it it still won't work
L417[16:24:42] <payonel> and what does the
error string say now?
L418[16:24:44]
<Feep> yeah
but it still refuses to with "nil entity"
L419[16:24:54] <payonel> yeah, i can check
for it
L420[16:24:56] <payonel> ok
L421[16:24:58] <payonel> interesting
L422[16:25:13]
<Feep> and
it still can't enter the adjacent block
L423[16:25:26]
<Feep> ...
okay, NOW it gets weird
L424[16:25:42]
<Feep> I
placed a block next to the block with the oc:afterimage
L425[16:25:48] *
payonel nods
L426[16:25:50]
<Feep> so
there should be no space there now for an entity to fit
L427[16:25:53]
<Feep> still
"nil entity"
L428[16:26:09] <payonel> i'm slightly
confused
L429[16:26:24] <payonel> you placed a
block next (i.e. adjacent) to the afterimage?
L430[16:26:33]
<Feep> yeah,
the afterimage was right next to the wall
L431[16:26:34] <payonel> so why should
there be no space to fit an entity?
L432[16:26:42]
<Feep> the
afterimage does have collision
L433[16:26:48]
<Feep> so
any physically present entity should have been bounced out of the
entire row
L434[16:26:56]
<Feep> like
I thought the melon did
L435[16:27:03] <payonel> no no...
L436[16:27:06] <payonel> you said, next
to
L437[16:27:10]
<Feep>
yes
L438[16:27:11] <payonel> like, afterimage
at x=0
L439[16:27:13] <payonel> block at
x=1
L440[16:27:17]
<Feep> it's
now [wall][afterimage][block]
L441[16:27:18] <payonel> where does
nothing fit?
L442[16:27:24]
<Feep> [
][robot][ ]
L443[16:27:32] <payonel> so where does
nothing fit?
L444[16:27:47]
<Feep> I
assumed it was [wall] entity [block]
L445[16:28:37] <payonel> i dont see where
you think nothing should fit
L446[16:28:58] <Corded> * <Feep>
shrugs
L447[16:29:01]
<Feep>
probably a mistake anyway
L448[16:29:05] <payonel> you're saying at
z=0, stone at x=0, afterimage at x=1, stone at x=2
L449[16:29:08]
<Feep> in
any case, I just accidentally broke the afterimage
L450[16:29:15] <payonel> then, z=1, air at
x=1, robot ....
L451[16:29:17] <payonel> oh
L452[16:29:19] <payonel> welp
L453[16:29:22]
<Feep> welp
?
L454[16:29:30]
<Feep> it
still does "nil entity" fwiw.
L455[16:29:39] <payonel> what about the
2nd position?
L456[16:29:42] <payonel> still nil?
L457[16:29:42] <payonel> huh
L458[16:30:39]
<Feep> It
can't enter those two blocks from either side.
L459[16:30:43]
<Feep> from
any side.*
L460[16:30:59]
<Feep> still
no visible hitboxes.
L461[16:31:27]
<Feep>
play.direwolf20.ca fwiw
L462[16:32:07]
<Feep> would
having console access help?
L463[16:32:30] <payonel> not so much. a
debug card and the exact contents of that world position would help
:)
L464[16:32:38]
<Feep> I can
try to craft that...
L465[16:32:42]
<Feep>
owait, debug card
L466[16:32:49] <payonel> craft what? the
nil entity?
L467[16:32:50] <payonel> :)
L468[16:32:54]
<Feep> yeah,
misread
L469[16:33:10]
<Feep> you
might wanna join the play.direwolf20.ca discord and poke the
op?
L470[16:34:12]
<Feep> poked
too~
L471[16:36:16] <payonel> feep: ok
L472[16:36:23] <payonel> the nil entity is
two returns, not 1
L473[16:36:54] <payonel> try
print(table.concat(robot.forward(), ", "))
L474[16:36:58] <payonel> you'll see: nil,
entity
L475[16:43:19] <payonel> @feep can you
walk through it?
L476[16:44:52]
<Compu>
@20kdc woot i converted audio into the format for the tape drive,
then launched the metamachine VM running openOS and wrote the audio
to the tape from the VM!
L477[16:44:53]
<Compu> so
cool
L478[16:45:15] <payonel> compu: what is
this mystical rack mountable capacitor you have?
L479[16:45:50]
<Compu> it's
from computronics
L480[16:45:56]
<Feep>
@payonel I can walk through it
L481[16:46:40]
<Feep>
table.concat errors out
L482[16:46:48] <payonel> oh, add {}
L483[16:46:58] <payonel>
print(table.concat({robot.forward()}), ", ")
L484[16:47:15] <payonel> i dont really
know lua
L485[16:47:51] <payonel> ok kidding. i
love lua ^.^
L486[16:47:52] <payonel> LUA
L487[16:47:53] <MichiBot> Lua*
L488[16:48:05]
<Feep> same
error
L489[16:48:09] <payonel> yeah
L490[16:48:12] <payonel> but it puts a
comma
L491[16:48:16] <payonel> > nil,
entity
L492[16:48:43] <payonel> anywho
.........
L493[16:49:05] <payonel> maybe i'll spin
up a d20 world, and run 300 robots moving west and then east
hundreds of blocks
L494[16:49:24] <payonel> i suspect the
move is failing, some network packet send failure
L495[16:49:33] <payonel> and we aren't
cleaning up the afterimage crap
L496[16:49:56]
<Compu>
@20kdc is there a way to set the screen resolution in
kittenos?
L497[16:50:14] <payonel> @Compu
computronics :P
L498[16:50:54]
<20kdc> yes,
it's in app-control
L499[16:51:17]
<Feep>
@payonel the server dev wants to know what you need from him
L500[16:51:27]
<Feep>
@payonel the server op wants to know what you need from him
[Edited]
L501[16:51:55] <payonel> uummmmmm
L502[16:52:08] <payonel> well the first
post in that bug report said it goes away after restart
L503[16:52:14] <payonel> ummm
L504[16:53:25] <payonel> ask them when the
next restart is planned (i hope to test/see it before that
time)
L505[16:53:38] <payonel> also, how many
people are online? what is the tps?
L506[16:54:26]
<Feep> 0
rn
L507[16:54:28]
<Feep> 20
rn*
L508[16:54:31]
<Feep> like
ten people online
L509[16:54:36]
<Feep> 34 ms
tick loop
L510[16:55:17]
<Compu> ahhh
there we go
L511[16:55:19]
<Compu> high
res
L512[16:55:50] <payonel> @feep i dont know
a reliable way to know what entity the robot thinks is blocking
it
L513[16:55:54] <payonel> i'll just do my
best to repro it
L514[16:56:04] <payonel> i suspect it is
its own afterimage
L515[16:56:17] <payonel> and i suspect we
lost our movement sequence due to a network failure of some
type
L516[16:56:33] <payonel> or world tick
jump
L517[16:56:47] <payonel> it shouldn't
happen, obviously ... :)
L518[16:56:55]
<Feep>
"movement sequence"?
L519[16:57:08]
<Feep>
again, this is happening every time I try to enter this block, from
any direction
L520[16:57:08] <payonel> yeah, we have to
do a few things to move the robot
L521[16:57:13] <payonel> right
L522[16:57:15]
<Feep>
regular movement works fine
L523[16:57:21] <payonel> i suspect we left
some garbage there
L524[16:57:27]
<Feep> block
is air
L525[16:57:31] <payonel> so you
think
L526[16:57:32] <payonel> :)
L527[16:57:35]
<XXMINECRAFTGODXX> Hey, I can provide any
debugging information as you need, should this be opened under
git?
L528[16:57:37]
<Feep> we
tried to fill it in and mine out
L529[16:57:43]
<Feep> it's
*definitely* air
L530[16:57:48]
<XXMINECRAFTGODXX> It's all air
L531[16:57:53] <payonel> @feep if it was
air, the robot would move in there no issue
L532[16:57:57]
<Feep>
nope
L533[16:57:59]
<XXMINECRAFTGODXX> That's not the
case
L534[16:58:00]
<Feep>
actually, cool thing
L535[16:58:03]
<Feep> even
if I place a block in it
L536[16:58:13]
<Feep> it
still says "colliding with an entity"
L537[16:58:17] <payonel> right
L538[16:58:20]
<Feep> it
still says "nil entity" [Edited]
L539[16:58:21] <payonel> we check entity
first
L540[16:58:25] <payonel> then blocks
L541[16:58:48] <payonel> i suspect we left
our transient robot entity there
L542[16:58:56]
<Feep> it
happens in the adjacent block too
L543[16:58:59] <payonel> due to a network
skip or time skip or voodoo
L544[16:58:59]
<Feep> and
the robot never moved into that
L545[16:59:06] <payonel> @feep so you
think :)
L546[16:59:12] <payonel> but time dilation
and such :)
L547[16:59:12]
<Feep> look,
I wrote that movement code :p
L548[16:59:18] <payonel> no i
understand
L549[16:59:37] <payonel> the movement
sequence places a temporary robot-type of entity
L550[16:59:40] <payonel> to help it
move
L551[16:59:59] <payonel> it's to make sure
it can complete a movement, and other reasons
L552[17:00:21] <payonel> if that sequence
breaks in a way i haven't seen before, i'm sure we could get stuck,
seeing an entity there
L553[17:00:39] <payonel>
xxminecreatyournameislong: we have a github issue for it,
thanks
L554[17:00:50] <payonel> i assume your an
admin there? when is your next planned restart?
L555[17:01:16] <payonel> @feep so anyways,
the block type of that position may be "air", but it is
not empty
L556[17:01:46]
<Feep>
again, even if I fill it with granite
L557[17:01:47] <payonel> SquidDev: what
does a CC turtle do if it tries to enter your player's block
position?
L558[17:01:53]
<Feep>
"nil entity"
L559[17:01:53] <payonel> @feep
BLOCKS
L560[17:01:56] <payonel> not
entities
L561[17:02:01] <payonel> we first check
entities
L562[17:02:02] <payonel> then blocks
L563[17:02:07]
<Feep>
oyeah
L564[17:02:50] <payonel> @feep do you have
a cc turtle handy?
L565[17:02:59] <payonel> if so, when
happens if it tries to move into you?
L566[17:03:05]
<Feep>
oc?
L567[17:03:12] <payonel> no
L568[17:03:14] <payonel> cc turtle
L569[17:03:15]
<Feep> no cc
installed
L570[17:03:18] <payonel> ok
L571[17:03:29] <payonel> anyways, i
suspect it'd move you and not care
L572[17:03:54] <payonel> because they (i
believe) don't check for entities
L573[17:04:30] <SquidDev> payonel: I
believe it'll push you, like a piston would.
L574[17:04:38] <payonel> SquidDev: right,
makes sense
L575[17:04:54] <payonel> so this is why oc
is blocked and cc isn't on that phantom thing
L576[17:05:00] <payonel> it must be our
afterimage
L577[17:05:17] <payonel> i'll have to
review how that code could break under server load
L578[17:05:22] <SquidDev> Afterimage?
Hrrm,
L579[17:05:24] <payonel> thanks
SquidDev
L580[17:05:34] <payonel> yeah, we generate
an extra entity to help the robot move
L581[17:06:09] <SquidDev> Ahhh, ok. Sorry,
not really sure how the robot code looks, so not sure how much help
I can be. :/
L582[17:06:19] <payonel> oh no worries,
thanks
L583[17:06:56]
<Feep>
picking up and replacing the bot did not change things
L584[17:07:12] <payonel> good to know. and
that makes sense
L585[17:07:21] <payonel> the entity is a
zombie, disassociated entity
L586[17:07:45] <payonel> and technically
... the entity is literally a robot
L587[17:07:57] <payonel> but one without a
rendered block face
L588[17:08:11] <payonel> it isn't added to
the world, and thus a restart will kill it
L589[17:08:22] <payonel> the original bug
report talks about a blocking space, one you can't enter
L590[17:08:40] <payonel> that is similar,
but due to the afterimage being left behind (also, or
instead)
L591[17:09:54]
<Feep> the
afterimages never blocked the bot for me
L592[17:10:53] <payonel> anywho, the move
sequence clearly has race issue
L593[17:11:43] <payonel> the afterimage
was in the position you could not enter
L594[17:11:44] <payonel> right?
L595[17:12:23] <payonel> @feep ^
L596[17:12:56]
<Feep>
no
L597[17:13:04] <payonel> oh, where was
it?
L598[17:13:06]
<Feep> there
was an adjacent block that was also unenterable that did not ever
have an afterimage
L599[17:13:15] <payonel> right
L600[17:13:15]
<Feep> I
really think the afterimage was coincidental
L601[17:13:19]
<Feep> in
any case the server just went down
L602[17:13:28] <payonel> there were two
positions, yes?
L603[17:13:31]
<Feep>
yes
L604[17:13:34] <payonel> that you could
not enter
L605[17:13:40] <payonel> one had an
afterimage (for a time), right?
L606[17:13:40]
<Feep> again
again, the afterimage showed up *later* during testing
L607[17:13:46] <payonel> yes
L608[17:13:50]
<Feep> it
was not initially there when the block was unenterable
L609[17:13:51]
<Feep> but
yes
L610[17:14:19] <payonel> and so, because
the afterimage issues occurred later -- we know the entity was
always there
L611[17:14:28] <payonel> and thus, we do
not know if the afterimage would block or not
L612[17:14:35] <payonel> why? bc we check
entity first
L613[17:14:50] <payonel> re: 'the
afterimages never blocked the bot for me'
L614[17:14:54] <payonel> ^ we dont know
that
L615[17:15:10] <payonel> but anyways, i'll
retest tonight
L616[17:15:16] <payonel> thank you for
reportin
L617[17:15:18] <payonel> +g
L618[17:16:35]
<Feep> good
luck ?
L619[17:16:44]
<Feep> also
actually I know that
L620[17:16:54]
<Feep> cause
this mine was full of afterimages and they weren't an issue
yet
L621[17:31:04]
<Compu> what
is the little light on a rackmount server that stays blinky for a
little while after the server shuts down?
L622[17:46:17]
<Feep>
@payonel HOUSTON, WE HAVE REPRO.
L623[17:46:28] <AmandaC> That's the light
for the core that stops the rack from releasing neurotoxin
L624[17:46:34]
<Feep> 1.
Have IC2 Chunkloader active
L625[17:46:36]
<Feep> 2.
Stand in way of robot.
L626[17:46:39]
<Feep> 3.
Disconnect.
L627[18:06:42] <payonel> @feep haha,
really?
L628[18:06:43] <payonel> well
L629[18:06:47] <payonel> that's a
different entity though
L630[18:06:50] <payonel> :/
L631[18:06:51] <payonel> maybe
L632[18:06:58] <payonel> i dont know
L633[18:06:59] <payonel> i'll include that
in my testing
L634[18:07:01] <payonel> :)
L635[18:07:15]
<Feep> added
it to the bug report
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L638[18:09:44] <payonel> @feep good idea
(to add it to the bug report)
L639[18:09:56] <payonel> because, if it is
a different issue (possibly) then i dont have to fix both !
L640[18:10:26]
<Feep>
?
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L644[19:55:16] <payonel> Michiyo: estimate
of time/cost/your interest in adding some github/mightypirates/oc
events to MichiBot
L645[20:01:03] <Mimiru> payonel?
L646[20:02:21]
<Compu>
anyone know how long it takes to write 37 minutes of audio to a
computronics tape?
L647[20:02:59] <AmandaC> 3.7 hours
L648[20:03:41]
<Compu> no i
mean seriously
L649[20:04:11]
<Compu>
@Vexatos u wrote the guide thing, any idea?
L650[20:06:48]
<Compu> and
the in game computer froze
L651[20:09:54]
<Compu>
ok
L652[20:15:55] <AmandaC> Mimiru: I think
payonel wants GitHub events through MichiBot
L653[20:16:43] <AmandaC> You know, the
usual events, masked balls, tupperware parties, the annual
conference to determine who the next sacrafice to the dark gods
will be, baby showers
L654[20:16:59]
<Compu> ok
seems the freeze is normal
L655[20:17:23] <Mimiru> I asked about that
once upon a time.. interest wasn't there so I didn't do it.
L656[20:17:34] <Mimiru> We could just
stick a github webook bot here
L657[20:17:37] <Mimiru> :P
L658[20:17:48] <AmandaC> personally I'm
not a fan of such things, so if it is done, I'd prefer it be a
different bot
L659[20:17:56] <AmandaC> More noise than
signal, IMHO
L660[20:18:23] <AmandaC> %choose fold out
the bed or not yet
L661[20:18:23] <MichiBot> AmandaC: I sense
some fold out the bed in your future!
L662[20:18:32] <AmandaC> well.. yes, but
now or later, MichiBot?
L663[20:18:47] <AmandaC> I guess I'll do
it now
L664[20:22:56] <AmandaC> I think I'm
starting to lean more to liking these new %choose messages. If I
phrase them carefully, y'all can't claim I disobey her
anymore!
L665[20:23:25]
<Kleadron> u
sure about that
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L669[20:40:15] <vifino> it glitches
farbfeld images
L670[20:40:23] <gamax92> a whot
L672[20:43:25] <vifino> makes for cool
lockscreens
L673[20:43:44] <vifino> it's also very
fast, it's a streaming filter in C
L674[20:44:24] <vifino> it outputs things
as it reads them, applies the glitching inbetween
L675[20:45:05] <vifino> farbfeld is a
really simple image format that makes piping, parsing and writing
really easy
L676[20:45:50] <vifino> you like,
gamax92?
L677[20:46:13] <gamax92> oooh
L678[20:53:25] <vifino> i take that as a
yes? :>
L680[20:55:18] <vifino> though now, i
think i'll sleep, night gamax92
L681[20:55:31] <gamax92> night
L682[20:56:32] <AmandaC> gamax92: I
improved my wine patch! It now works with fullscreen +
grab_fullscreen!
L683[20:56:42] <gamax92> ahh, nice
L684[20:56:49] <AmandaC> tomorrow maybe
I'll find the spoons to try and submit it upstream
L685[20:56:55] <Saphire> vifino: looks fun
o:
L686[21:39:33]
<Compu> hey
anyone know if it's possible to change the speed on the
computronics tape drive?
L687[21:40:08]
<Compu> hey
anyone know if it's possible to change the speed on the
computronics portable tape drive? [Edited]
L688[22:31:00] <MichiBot> Izaya REMINDER:
investigate binding the haiku libs to lua
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L690[23:08:28] <MichiBot> Izaya REMINDER:
you're an idiot
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L692[23:29:50]
<Kleadron>
oof
L693[23:30:07]
<Kleadron>
michibot hates izaya
L694[23:30:16] <Izaya> nonsense
L695[23:30:20] <Izaya> MichiBot has no
issue with me
L696[23:30:25] <Izaya> I hate Izaya
though
L697[23:47:26]
<Kleadron>
%choose make an operating system for opencomputers even though i am
bad as coding or play some dumb game
L698[23:47:26] <MichiBot> Kleadron:
Elementary dear Watson, play some dumb game is the obvious
choice!
L699[23:47:37]
<Kleadron> u
srs
L700[23:48:58] <Izaya> MichiBot does not
jest