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L1[00:23:08] <AmandaC> Oops it's 01.23
L2[00:23:20] <AmandaC> Guess I'll sleep
now
L3[00:23:50] <AmandaC> Since I ran out of
chapters to "one more chapter" myself though
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L14[01:14:07]
<Forecaster>
wellp.
L15[01:14:13]
<Forecaster>
firefox is now up-to-date
L16[01:14:17]
<Forecaster>
still no javascript
L17[01:14:41]
<Forecaster>
and now of course the majority of my addons don't work
anymore
L18[01:16:45]
<Forecaster>
27 addons
L19[01:17:12]
<Forecaster>
15 still work
L20[01:22:12]
<Forecaster>
oh, well apparently javascript was just disabled, but they'd hidden
the setting for it
L21[01:22:21]
<Forecaster>
I had to go to about:config to re-enable it
L22[01:31:13] <xarses> payonel: can we
(default) alias stop and start to their rc equivalent?
L23[01:31:53]
<Forecaster>
anyone know of a good fork of firefox with the old addon
system?
L25[02:18:40] <MichiBot> XKCD Comic Name:
Sandboxing Cycle Posted on: 9/10/2018
L26[02:34:37]
<Kleadron>
wow
L27[02:35:39]
<Forecaster>
wow?
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L30[05:21:32]
<Mettaton_Fab> too bad firefox uses so much
RAM and if you dont kill it after getting rid of all the tabs you
had open it will still consume a large chunk of RAM
L31[05:27:03]
<Forecaster>
it's been fine
L32[06:20:03]
<Mettaton_Fab> i once got it to lock up my
system with 3 windows and 4 tabs each
L33[06:20:28]
<Mettaton_Fab> 2 of the windows were both
the same website, the other one was youtube
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L36[06:29:12]
<Forecaster>
I'll give Waterfox a shot
L37[06:29:23]
<Forecaster>
I hope I can move the old addons from firefox over to it
L38[06:29:38] <Izaya> pretty sure it can do
both firefox and chrome addons so you should be fine
L39[06:29:49] <Vexatos> Meh, I like the new
firefox
L40[06:29:58] <Vexatos> the one addon I
used which wasn't ported I just ported myself
L41[06:29:59]
<Forecaster>
I'm mostly worried the firefox update broke them
L42[06:30:18]
<Forecaster>
I had 27 "legacy addons"
L43[06:30:25] <Vexatos> Me too
L44[06:30:32] <Vexatos> But I found
alternatives for all of them but one
L45[06:30:35] <Izaya> I don't hugely mind
newer Firefox but the weaker extension API is a bummer
L46[06:31:06]
<Forecaster>
it's garbage as far as I'm concerned
L47[06:31:12] <Vexatos> The only thing that
I couldn't update was obviously all my UI tweak addons, but the new
UI is actually one I like
L48[06:31:20] <Vexatos> so I didn't need
them anymore
L49[06:32:00] <Izaya> It's less bad than
the FF29 - 55 UI
L50[06:33:04] <Izaya> I'm not a huge fan,
especially of how they want you to use horrid panels instead of
just the menu bar, but you can still enable the menu bar so
whatever
L51[06:34:16]
<Forecaster>
and of course the update dropped all my tabs
L52[06:34:24]
<Forecaster>
and the addons that were "replaced" didn't keep any
settings
L53[06:35:21]
<Forecaster>
so I am not happy about any of this
L54[06:41:31] <Vexatos> Meh
L55[06:41:39] <Vexatos> I migrated all my
stuff over pretty quickly
L56[06:41:47]
<Forecaster>
good for you...
L57[06:41:59] <Vexatos> turns out that
addons that do the same thing also have very similar configs
L58[06:42:10] <Vexatos> so just take old
config, sed it a bit, and paste it into the new thing
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L60[06:43:07] <Vexatos> Izaya, I actually
like the menu panels as they use way less space, and the menu bar
still shows up when pressing Alt
L61[06:44:29] <Izaya> I find them
inconvenient and annoying.
L62[06:44:45]
<Forecaster>
it's literally the same addon, but the configs were not moved
over.
L63[06:44:47] <Izaya> That, and for once
vertical space isn't an issue because I'm using a shortscreen
sideways
L64[06:44:51]
<Forecaster>
it should have done that on it's own.
L65[06:45:39]
<Forecaster>
I'm just going to drop it and switch 99% to Chrome, because there's
no point in trying to fix any of it
L66[06:45:44] <Vexatos> I mean it isn't
here either but I still prefer it taking up less space. As I said,
I can just press alt and then use the keyboard to navigate the menu
bar it's good enough
L67[06:46:03]
<Forecaster>
most of the data is lost except the tabs which I exported
(thankfully) before letting it update
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L69[06:46:15] <Vexatos> the data isn't
lost
L70[06:46:25] <Vexatos> it's somewhere in
your firefox profile
L71[06:46:47]
<Forecaster>
I can't find any references to most of the legacy addons.
L72[06:46:58] <Vexatos> because most of
them have hashed filenames
L73[06:47:46]
<Forecaster>
that's great
L74[06:54:28]
<Forecaster>
yeah no, I can't be bothered with this. I tried moving the profile
over to waterfox and most of the plugins are marked as disabled
with no enable button...
L75[06:54:58]
<Forecaster>
completely useless...
L76[06:56:56] <Vexatos> you tried pale
moon? That's a fork from many, many years ago, that should support
even the oldest addons
L77[06:58:26]
<Forecaster>
I can do that I guess
L78[06:58:42]
<Forecaster>
though really it doesn't matter
L79[06:59:29]
<Forecaster>
the main reason I had firefox set up this way was to easily
download images and stuff, and a lot of those are sent from the
firefox app on my phone
L80[06:59:44] <Vexatos> I see
L81[07:00:12]
<Forecaster>
since the firefox app has a "share" target that sends
links directly to a tab on the desktop
L82[07:00:36]
<Forecaster>
I doubt waterfox or pale moon or anything else can do that
L83[07:03:38]
<Forecaster>
nope, same deal in pale moon
L84[07:03:45] <Vexatos> welp
L85[07:03:54]
<Forecaster>
I think firefox did something to them
L86[07:04:21]
<Forecaster>
since it looks like the ones it kept in the "legacy"
area
L87[07:04:56]
<Forecaster>
I could maybe try to backport firefox itself
L88[07:07:30]
<Forecaster>
ugh
L89[07:17:36]
<Forecaster>
but what version was it
L90[07:20:17]
<Mettaton_Fab> may have also been the
limitation of 32bit firefox i want back
L91[07:20:24] <Izaya> >tiny web-based
mastodon client for your desktop
L92[07:20:27] <Izaya> >tiny
L93[07:20:27]
<Mettaton_Fab> too many tabs and it
crashed
L94[07:20:29] <Izaya> >web-based
L95[07:20:31] <Izaya> pick one
L96[07:21:34]
<Forecaster>
I wrote what version I was using somewhere but now I can't find it
:|
L97[07:21:44] <Izaya> also
L98[07:21:46] <Izaya> >web-based
L99[07:21:49] <Izaya> >desktop
L100[07:21:51] <Izaya> pick one
L101[07:24:52]
<Forecaster>
I'm most annoyed about the loss of my userscripts...
L102[07:26:26] <Vexatos> Izaya, electron
\:D/
L103[07:27:14] <Izaya> Vexatos: not
desktop
L104[07:27:16] <Izaya> not light
L105[07:27:18] <Izaya> not tiny
L106[07:28:34] <Vexatos> ?
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L108[07:31:52] <Vexatos> what did I do
now
L109[07:34:54]
<Forecaster>
okay, re-installing an older version mostly worked, except for the
addons firefox updated...
L110[07:35:05]
<Forecaster>
now I need to find a way to get old versions of those...
L111[07:35:16] <Vexatos> if only you had
made a backup of the profile >_<
L112[07:35:55]
<Forecaster>
I actually do have backups of it somewhere
L113[07:36:02]
<Forecaster>
they may be very old though
L114[07:36:19] <Vexatos> I mean you
technically just need the addon files from it, no?
L115[07:36:46]
<Forecaster>
I also need to fix the speed dial addon which is now missing files
again
L116[07:38:34]
<Forecaster>
oh, there are no backups left, seems I removed them >:
L117[07:39:36]
<Forecaster>
actually I have some old profiles
L118[07:39:39]
<Forecaster>
from 2015...
L119[07:40:47]
<Forecaster>
that might work if I find just the files I need...
L120[07:43:25]
<Forecaster>
seems greasemonkey is one of the hashed files though
L121[07:55:33]
<Forecaster>
I guess I'll just back up the current profile, then overwrite all
of them...
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<Forecaster>
wow, that's not creepy at all
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L136[10:39:21] <payonel> xarses: "can
we (default) alias stop and start to their rc equivalent?" you
mean you'd like to see `start my_service` == `rc my_service start`
?
L137[10:44:54] *
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L138[10:46:21] <AmandaC> meowning to you
too, gamax92
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L140[10:51:24] *
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L141[10:51:37] <Michiyo> why has your
database not saved since... the 29th
L142[10:51:42] *
Michiyo sighs
L143[10:52:30] <gamax92> Forecaster
L144[10:54:40] <Michiyo> Fuck driving,
fuck Texas, fuck Nebraska, fuck everything.
L145[10:59:19] *
Inari kons at AmandaC
L146[10:59:35] <Inari> Yeah, Forecaster
broke the db :D
L147[11:00:20] *
AmandaC drags Mimiru her bappin' hammer
L148[11:00:59] *
AmandaC offers Mimiru a pocket-dimension to smash everything in,
also
L149[11:12:12] <Michiyo> Spun a wheel
bearing in Texas, found a major oil leak, and 4 missing qts of oil
in Nebraska
L150[11:13:18] <Michiyo> and now, likely
due to the major lack of oil, engine issues of coolant in a
cylinder, from hopefully a shot head gasket, but it could be far
worse.
L151[11:13:56] <payonel> Michiyo:
wow
L152[11:14:00] <payonel> welcome
back?
L153[11:14:48] <Michiyo> We got back at
10PM last night, and had to have the u-haul trailer back by
midnight...
L154[11:14:57] <payonel> haha
L155[11:15:01] <payonel> did you make
it?
L156[11:15:08] <Michiyo> threw EVERYTHING
out as soon as the garage door opened and made it
L157[11:15:20] <payonel> ugh, wow
L158[11:15:34] <payonel> and you're back
at work today or you took a day off?
L159[11:15:38] <Michiyo> but, I have my
family here ^_^
L160[11:15:44] <payonel> yes, that
L161[11:16:07] <Michiyo> Yeah, I'm back,
just in time for a MAJOR outage by one of our online providers, so
I'm going to get slammed with new work that I'm not trained on
yet.
L162[11:16:54] <Inari> Sounds fun
L163[11:17:15] <vifino> hi.
L164[11:17:23] <Michiyo> yeah always fun
when you get to deal with the fallout from a fucking Cryptolocker
virus
L165[11:18:30] *
AmandaC cuddles up in Michiyo's lap, offers her services as a cute
fluffy thing
L166[11:18:47] <AmandaC> Sounds like a
trip from hell. D:
L167[11:19:00] <Michiyo> yes
L168[11:19:25] <AmandaC> Much <3
L169[11:19:29] <Inari> AmandaC after
watching YuruCamp
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L172[11:20:12] <AmandaC> Inari: Heh.
:D
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<xarses>
@payonel yup
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L178[12:00:37] <AmandaC> payonel:
basically, it'll call `CloseFont(get())` to "deallocate"
it instead of `free`
L179[12:03:36] <payonel> AmandaC: forgive
me, but ... what do you mean by "this usage of"
L180[12:03:50] <payonel> that's a rather
normal way of using shared_ptr
L181[12:04:00] <AmandaC> payonel: not that
specific instace, but... "Using shared_ptr this way" I
guess?
L182[12:04:25] <AmandaC> payonel: I never
knew about it until I asked some C++ friends if there was a way to
do what I did there without re-implementing all of shared_ptr
L183[12:04:27] <payonel> unique_ptr is
better to communicate it's not actually shared, but, unique_ptr
also doesn't do custom deletor as nicely (syntactically
"nicely", because the type must include the
deletor)
L184[12:05:57] <payonel> sure, i
understand where you're coming from
L185[12:06:06] <payonel> typically, smart
pointers are for new/delete
L186[12:06:13] <payonel> in this case, you
have a special "close"
L187[12:06:24] <AmandaC> It's wrapping a C
API
L188[12:06:25] <payonel> it's really fun
to wrap custom behavior in std containers like this
L189[12:06:30] <payonel> yeah
L190[12:06:42] <payonel> i like this stuff
:)
L191[12:06:48] <payonel> it's one of the
many reasons i love c++
L192[12:06:51] <AmandaC> hehe
L193[12:07:23] <payonel> shared_ptrs are
also really great for the pimpl paradigm
L194[12:07:33] <payonel> where you keep a
private implementation in the cpp file
L195[12:07:46] <payonel> because you don't
have to declare nearly as much
L196[12:08:06] <payonel> but, that has
nothing to do with your c api case, just saying, the shared_ptr is
a nice tool
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L203[13:23:09] <MichiBot>
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L211[15:44:37] <payonel> Inari: watching
the fb video
L212[15:44:52] <Inari> ^^
L213[15:45:31] <payonel> please forgive me
but...it's not helping my opinion of fb in general
L214[15:46:04] <payonel> i'm not finding
any of their examples to be common short falls in my experience, my
code nor my peers
L215[15:46:49] <payonel> this really
sounds to me someone who came from js trying c++
L216[15:47:12] <payonel> and then in
example 3, remove const is the answer? no, use at()
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L218[15:47:28] <Inari> Well, he did say
it's a newbie trap :P
L219[15:47:49] <payonel> sure, but its the
most common set of bugs at fb?
L220[15:47:55] <payonel> full of newbies
then?
L221[15:48:07] <Inari> I guess if oyu're
new to C++, yeah?
L222[15:48:12] <payonel> also, we never
use literal strings for map keys
L223[15:48:19] <Inari> Newbie programmers
exist ^^
L224[15:48:24] <Inari> And to be
honest
L225[15:48:27] <Inari> It's kind of a
bonkers mechanic
L226[15:48:35] <Inari> I don't expect a []
access to have a sideeffect
L227[15:49:08] <payonel> yeah i'm not
defending c++ in this case, or any of them
L228[15:49:35] <Inari> So I don't expect
anyone to know the [] until tehy run into it
L229[15:49:54] <Inari> Also that was some
fast watching
L230[15:49:55] <Inari> ;D
L231[15:50:09] <payonel> haha
L232[15:51:04] <AmandaC> payonel watches
everything at 2640x
L234[16:37:12] <payonel> kodos: whose
batteries are those?
L235[16:39:33]
<Kodos>
Those are from Resonant Induction from years ago, CyanideX did the
models
L236[16:39:51]
<Kodos> Them
being blue means they're full, they were grey on empty, and then
slowly the blue level would rise from the bottom based on charge
level
L237[16:40:29]
<Kodos>
Those particular batteries are in 2x3x2 setups because that was the
size I liked
L238[16:40:55]
<Kodos> Back
then, I ran Galacticraft a ton and had set up 'modular' space
stations. That was the power module
L239[16:41:14]
<Kodos> Now
I do the same thing with Advanced Rocketry, since I can do actual
modular stations with it
L240[16:49:07] <Temia> Ooh.
L241[16:49:10] <Temia> That's some
aesthetic
L242[16:49:20] <Temia> Was the cabling
between station sections modular too?
L243[16:49:42] <Temia> Or was it manually
laid for the most part?
L244[16:51:48] <Izaya> I remember that
stuff
L245[16:51:56] <Izaya> Killed my framerate
on my 8600GT
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L247[17:05:10]
<Tako> where
can i submit an idea for OC addon?
L249[17:06:22]
<Tako>
someone wants to have compute
L250[17:06:24]
<Tako> but
consoles
L251[17:06:46]
<Tako>
basically computers which look like consoles
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L253[17:20:30]
<Kodos> Most
people just make their own
L254[17:20:38]
<Kodos> But
I'm not sure how modeled computers would work
L255[17:21:12] <Izaya> I still want
microcontrollers with screens
L256[17:21:14]
<Kodos>
Temia, I had most of the cabling external, but I'd use the sealable
blocks on the modules to mark I/O for power
L257[17:21:30]
<Kodos>
Izaya, I still want rack raids and adapters
L258[17:21:44]
<Kodos> But,
que sera sera
L259[17:31:23] <AmandaC> didn't someone
recently make rack raids?
L260[17:31:34] <AmandaC> %choose
halucinate or irradiate
L261[17:31:35] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Why not
both?
L262[17:32:07] <AmandaC> halucinate it
is
L263[17:33:15] <AmandaC> %choose veg or
no
L264[17:33:16] <MichiBot> AmandaC: I
received a message from future you, said to go with no.
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L268[17:40:23] <payonel> AmandaC: what's
that about, anyways?
L269[17:41:01] <AmandaC> payonel:
halucinate = read books/manga, irradiate = watch
youtube/anime
L270[17:42:29] <payonel> what started
that?
L271[17:42:41] <AmandaC> Boredom
L272[17:43:10] <Vexatos> %choose code or
read
L273[17:43:11] <MichiBot> Vexatos: Once
you get a taste of read you can't stop.
L274[17:43:12] <AmandaC> halucinate
because the images are made in my head (for books at least) and
irradiate = radiation = visible-spectrum radiation from the
TV
L275[17:43:20] <Vexatos> MichiBot is
right
L276[17:43:28] <Vexatos> if I start
reading now I'll be awake until 4 a.m. again
L277[17:43:34] <payonel> i follow the
meaning, just curious if you got it from somewhere
L278[17:43:38] <AmandaC> I had a friend
get busted with half a gram of read, be careful, Vexatos
L279[17:43:50] <AmandaC> nah, just thought
it up as a fun way to ask MichiBot
L280[17:43:55] <Vexatos> I have two novels
on my desk right now
L281[17:43:58] <Vexatos> one almost
finished, one unread
L282[17:44:06] <Vexatos> and the unread
cancels out the read
L283[17:44:16] <Vexatos> so I am
essentially readless
L284[17:45:10] <AmandaC> I accidentally
"One more Chapter"'d myself into being up until nearly
0200 last night
L285[17:45:29] <Vexatos> I just had a
conversation about programming languages until 0430
L286[17:45:54] <AmandaC>
neeeeerrrrrdddddd!!1111oneoneone
L287[17:46:11] <AmandaC> %choose sci-fi or
fantasy
L288[17:46:12] <MichiBot> AmandaC: I
received a message from future you, said to go with sci-fi.
L289[17:46:16] <AmandaC> got it
L290[17:46:43] <Vexatos> but where do they
draw the line between the two
L291[17:47:16] <Vexatos> I read this novel
that takes place in 1910 but it's both a fantasy and a sci-fi novel
and also an adventure novel and what is even going on
L292[17:52:32] <Izaya> I have a book on my
desk I still haven't read
L293[17:52:32] <Izaya> It's been like a
year
L294[17:56:43] <AmandaC> Vexatos: what's
it called?
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L299[18:38:27] <Izaya> hey payonel is
there a VT100 control sequence that can reverse scroll and works on
OpenOS?
L300[18:49:19]
<Kodos>
Inari you around
L301[18:50:05]
<AceDoggo>
Hello
L302[18:50:17]
<Kodos>
o/
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L304[18:56:20]
<AceDoggo>
ok so, is there a specific channel for help concerning open
computers?
L305[18:56:42] <Izaya> here
L306[18:56:47] <Izaya> #oc
L307[18:57:26]
<AceDoggo>
k, ty, so, im trying to read user input, then use a if statement to
see if the user typed a certain word
L308[18:57:44]
<AceDoggo>
and all i know how to do is print... xD
L309[18:57:51]
<AceDoggo>
Very new to this
L310[18:58:09] <Izaya> ~w io.read
L312[18:58:24] <Izaya> ^ is the Lua manual
page for io.read, which you can use for user input
L313[18:58:34] <Izaya> Lua manual is
good
L314[18:59:41] <Izaya> as for if...
L315[18:59:45] *
Izaya hmms
L316[19:00:10] <Izaya> if is simple
enough
L317[19:00:23] <Izaya> if condition then
... else ... end
L318[19:01:40] <Izaya> Does anyone have
any good tutorials or similar?
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L322[19:24:32] <Temia> ...
L323[19:24:33] <Temia> oh god
L324[19:24:42] <Temia> I just found Soni
on Mastodon
L325[19:24:47] *
Temia HITS DAT BLOCK BUTTON
L326[19:25:00] <Izaya> yeah I saw that a
while back
L327[19:25:02] <Izaya> bizarre
L328[19:25:41] <Temia> Oh, you have
Masto?
L329[19:25:46] *
Temia grabbyhands. Name pls c:
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L331[19:28:09] <Izaya> I assume that PM
sent properly...
L332[19:29:31] <Temia> Yep
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L334[19:35:57]
<AceDoggo>
ty Izaya, i will test this out.
L335[19:47:16]
<Kodos> Oh
neat, Pastebin syntax highlights Arduino now
L336[19:47:43] <Izaya> Can you turn off
mangling newlines yet?
L337[19:47:53]
<Kodos> No
idea
L338[19:48:06]
<Kodos>
Admittedly I've used github for just about everything now
L339[19:48:17]
<Kodos> I
only keep pastebin handy bc I'm lifetime pro
L340[19:49:17] <Izaya> I need to set up my
own paste service eventually
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L345[21:07:31] <xarses> so greg is
done?
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L347[23:11:42] <xarses> eMoo
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L349[23:59:08] <AmandaC> Izaya:
programming in Lua is pretty common to point newbies to
L350[23:59:13] <AmandaC> %pil
L352[23:59:20] <Izaya> Right x_x
L353[23:59:34] <Izaya> I was on my work
machine so uh
L354[23:59:47] <AmandaC> Anyway, imma
sleep before o one more chapter myself even further off
schedule