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L1[02:19:02] <payonel> rc is
documented
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<Toskin> Can
I ask why OC Relays can't relay energy too?
L4[02:55:15]
<Forecaster>
because there is a specific block for that
L5[03:06:00]
<Toskin> Ok
then.
L6[03:37:11]
<Forecaster>
yep...
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L12[06:09:43]
<Forecaster>
hm, something's gone terribly wrong...
L13[06:09:51]
<Forecaster>
Elite wont launch
L14[06:10:13]
<Forecaster>
it's like my GPU broken, except it's not
L15[06:12:37]
<Forecaster>
now it started, but the youtube tabs crashed
L16[06:12:38]
<Forecaster>
:|
L17[06:15:08]
<Forecaster>
oh, killed Elite after it'd frozen and saw a popup behind it saying
something about "insufficient memory to continue
exectuion"
L18[06:15:14]
<Forecaster>
I didn't have time to read all of it
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L20[06:27:28] zsh
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L21[06:27:39]
<Forecaster>
maybe I just have too many youtube tabs open...
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L23[06:31:58]
<Forecaster>
wait what
L24[06:32:18]
<Forecaster>
why are the EtG wiki tabs using nearly a GB of memory each...
L25[07:31:07] <Izaya> Wikia?
L26[07:31:50]
<Forecaster>
gamepedia
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L29[07:36:41] <Izaya> huh, I generally tend
to think that's a little more competent than wikia or similar
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L32[08:07:50] <Inari> %loot MichiBot's
inventory while the alarm systems are broken along with the entire
thing
L33[08:07:50] <MichiBot> Inari: You get a
loot box! It contains an empty drive slot.
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L36[09:13:15] <Inari> Hm I'dkind of like a
necklace with like potion bottles on it
L37[09:14:26] <Izaya> if potions in skyrim
are 0.1 weight, do they have <100mL of liquid in them?
L38[09:14:51] <Inari> It's an unspecific
weight unit, so you can't equate it to anything
L39[09:16:57] <AmandaC> granted, the base
carrying capacity is like 200 or so, so it can't be that large of a
unit
L40[09:17:33] <Izaya> fair points
L41[09:17:54] <Izaya> I imagine 1 weight
would be more like 250g
L42[09:19:19] <Inari> I don't think it's
specific anyway
L43[09:19:24] <Inari> Whichever you pick,
many items will seem odd
L44[09:28:45]
<Forecaster>
maybe the bottles are magical
L45[09:37:16] <Izaya> does a bag of holding
weigh more the more you put in it?
L46[09:52:33]
<Forecaster>
no
L47[09:52:49]
<Forecaster>
the items are held in a pocket dimension, they don't weigh
anything
L48[09:52:59]
<Forecaster>
at least in D&D
L49[09:53:17] <Izaya> oh okay
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L57[13:44:23]
<Forecaster>
something strange has happened...
L58[13:44:34]
<Forecaster>
firefox is behaving... strangely...
L59[13:44:46] <railgun1> oh hello
everyone
L60[13:44:53] <Izaya> something
happened?
L62[13:45:34] <AmandaC> Izaya: Meow?
L63[13:45:37]
<MGR>
%hello
L64[13:45:37]
<Forecaster>
oh, nevermind
L65[13:45:38] <MichiBot> MGR: Hello!
Welcome to #oc! The one and only opencomputers channel! Please ask
your questions directly (dont ask to ask) and provide error/code
examples! (Use pastebin.com if theyre more than one line!) Dont
mind the random conversation you might have walked into.
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L67[13:45:53]
<MGR>
%bye
L68[13:45:53] <MichiBot> MGR: Oh, well, bye
I guess...
L69[13:46:05] <Izaya> AmandaC: huh?
L70[13:46:15] <AmandaC> oh, I missed
@Forecaster's messages
L71[13:46:38] <Izaya> oh continue
L72[13:46:59]
<Forecaster>
hrm
L73[13:47:14]
<Forecaster>
for some reason resources are suddenly being blocked
L74[13:47:20]
<Forecaster>
causing sites to not load completely...
L75[13:47:51] <AmandaC> adblock going
mad?
L76[13:48:03] <Izaya> on Windows sometimes
it would just refuse to open TCP connections and fail
silently
L77[13:48:10]
<Forecaster>
I... don't know
L78[13:51:33]
<Forecaster>
it's not adblock or noscript, disabling them does nothing
L79[13:51:40]
<Forecaster>
I'm not getting any errors
L80[13:52:03] <Izaya> just a blank
page?
L81[13:52:54]
<Forecaster>
no, not everywhere
L82[13:53:04]
<Forecaster>
like imgur loads normally, except the images don't load in
L83[13:53:10]
<Forecaster>
they're just black squares
L85[13:53:13] <Izaya> bizarre
L86[13:53:25] <Izaya> GPU problems
again?
L87[13:53:40] <Izaya> alternatively, could
just be the usual beta OS bugs
L88[13:54:20]
<Forecaster>
I think the previous issues was because most of my ram was being
used by those gamepedia tabs, and my system drive being almost
full, meaning little swap space being available
L89[13:54:41] <Izaya> yeah that sounds
bad
L90[13:54:44]
<Forecaster>
I've cleared that up I think
L91[13:54:53] <Izaya> might be time to
reboot
L92[13:55:00]
<Forecaster>
I reboot every day
L93[13:55:15]
<Forecaster>
I've rebooted once today during the day
L94[13:55:23]
<Forecaster>
because my screens went out again
L95[13:55:30]
<Forecaster>
I suspect my gpu may be failing...
L96[13:55:54] <Izaya> feelsbad
L97[13:56:47]
<Forecaster>
pretty much the only explanation I can think of for the screens
suddenly going out with "No Signal"
L98[13:56:50]
<Forecaster>
and not recovering
L99[13:56:54]
<Forecaster>
that or a driver issue
L100[13:57:39]
<Forecaster>
wait
L101[13:57:45]
<Forecaster>
uh
L102[13:57:53]
<Forecaster>
I have a driver from the future? apparently?
L104[13:58:28]
<MGR> It's
9/8/2018
L105[13:58:32]
<Forecaster>
or wait, no, it's the 9th today
L106[13:58:54]
<Forecaster>
9th month that is
L107[13:58:59]
<MGR>
Yeah
L108[13:59:20]
<Forecaster>
but that means the driver is from nearly a month ago
L109[13:59:32]
<Forecaster>
and these issues started within the last few days
L110[13:59:33]
<Forecaster>
:|
L111[13:59:46] <Izaya> cheaper to replace
software than hardware
L112[14:00:11]
<Forecaster>
yeah... though I kinda want a new gpu anyway
L113[14:00:16]
<Forecaster>
could use some extra power
L114[14:00:40]
<MGR> What's
your GPU?
L115[14:00:48]
<Forecaster>
GTX 750 Ti
L116[14:01:04]
<MGR>
Upgrade isn't a bad idea
L117[14:01:17]
<Forecaster>
I've had it for a number of years now
L118[14:01:20]
<Forecaster>
it's getting a bit old
L119[14:01:39]
<Forecaster>
it's an excellent card though
L120[14:01:51]
<MGR> Yeah,
the 750Ti was extremely good
L121[14:03:27] <Izaya> I had a 750Ti for a
while it was nice
L122[14:04:19] <gamax92> Hmm ... well I
was going to try fixing an old issue today but the issue isn't
there anymore
L123[14:04:41]
<Forecaster>
you from the future fixed it
L124[14:05:23]
<Forecaster>
sigh
L125[14:05:31]
<Forecaster>
maybe its time to drop firefox...
L126[14:06:11]
<Forecaster>
maybe trying to keep using version 51 isn't worth it
L127[14:08:12]
<Wuerfel_21>
Nvidia is kindof crap as a company, but their GPUs are just the
best. ATI/AMD's GPUs are kindof sucky, in my experience
L128[14:08:41]
<Wuerfel_21>
not sure how much of that is due to drivers, though
L129[14:09:11]
<MGR> AMD's
cards have lower performance regardless of drivers
L130[14:09:20] <asie> AMD's GPUs are
inferior, but their driver policy is superior
L131[14:09:23] <asie> HOWEVER
L132[14:09:25] <asie> when ATI was king,
the inverse was true
L133[14:09:30] <asie> nVidia is just being
opportunistic
L134[14:10:09] <Izaya> AMD cards were
faster on loonix for a time because NVIDIA's drivers weren't as
good
L135[14:10:10] <asie> they have the upper
hand, so they get to dictate terms
L136[14:10:15] <Izaya> just saying
L137[14:10:18] <asie> a brief time
L138[14:10:29] <Izaya> drivers can make a
lot of difference
L139[14:10:31] <asie> prior to AMDGPU you
had the "radeon" OSS driver which was messy
L140[14:10:35] <asie> and the Catalyst
closed driver which was
L141[14:10:37] <asie> as bad as the
Windows ones
L142[14:10:57] <asie> also, that
L143[14:10:59]
<Wuerfel_21>
i don't care too much about performance. I care about wiered GL
errors/bugs, hard to set/access video timings and buggy S-Video
outpat (that last one. obvs. only on older cards)
L144[14:11:07] <asie> >weird GL
errors/bugs
L145[14:11:10] <asie> drivers make all the
difference
L146[14:11:15] <asie> HOWEVER
L147[14:11:20]
<Forecaster>
uggh
L148[14:11:28]
<Forecaster>
I can't figure out why it's not working >:
L149[14:11:30] <asie> nVidia's drivers
don't always implement error handling to spec
L150[14:11:35]
<Forecaster>
Feedly is just a white page
L151[14:11:40] <asie> which means some
games implement some things incorrectly and end up failing on
AMD
L152[14:11:49] <asie> AMD's Windows
drivers (and Intel's!) have bad OpenGL handling
L153[14:11:54] <asie> but on Linux,
everyone uses Mesa, and it's the gold standard
L154[14:12:00] <asie> >hard to
set/access video timings
L155[14:12:07] <asie> AMD's
kernel/2D/setup code is now FOSS
L156[14:12:09] <AmandaC> *everyone but
NVidia
L157[14:12:10]
<Wuerfel_21>
I was referencing the funky "invalid display list" thing
AMD did with OC's screens at some point
L158[14:12:20] <asie> if they're still
hard to set then it'll be fixed if you ask
L159[14:12:33] <AmandaC> They ship their
own. propitary, libgl/libwayland/etc
L160[14:12:36] <Izaya> >only 1080p dual
audio version is 50GB
L161[14:12:37] <asie> yes the question is
if that was AMD's or OC's fault
L162[14:12:41] <Izaya> please kill
me
L163[14:14:36]
<Wuerfel_21>
re:video timings: i was talking windows. AMD GPU: where do i force
a 70Hz mode? Nvidia GPU: I mean, yeah, this is a laptop, but
whatever, have your 1440x1080@70Hz
L164[14:16:15]
<Wuerfel_21>
i didn't even know you could increase the frame rate on a built-in
lcd. On AMD, i don't think i ever got a 70Hz mode working
L165[14:16:49]
<Wuerfel_21>
on an external monitor (which has to support 70Hz because mode
13h), even
L166[14:16:53] <Izaya> Most LCDs will just
refuse to read the signal
L167[14:17:11] <Izaya> well, at least
some
L168[14:17:34] <Izaya> they don't tend to
like it when you tell your monitor to do 1680x1050@90
L169[14:18:14]
<Wuerfel_21>
i assumed internal LCDs just run mode 13h at 60Hz (by way of
modified VGA BIOS), but apparently, they can handle 70Hz just
fine
L170[14:20:25]
<Wuerfel_21>
wasn't the regular ol' 80x25 text mode 70Hz, too?
L172[14:22:11] <asie> they will just
display it at 60 most likely
L173[14:22:15] <asie> so you'll just drop
frames
L174[14:22:23] <asie> that's what LCDs
with TV input often do with PAL signals anyway
L175[14:22:26] <asie> like, LCD
monitors
L176[14:22:28] <asie> not LCD TVs
L177[14:22:59] <asie> so, no, nobody HAS
to support 70Hz really
L178[14:23:00]
<Forecaster>
ugh, I have to port some userscripts to chrome :|
L179[14:23:14]
<Forecaster>
to get rid of firefox, and replace some addons
L180[14:24:15]
<Wuerfel_21>
chrome is succ tho, get vivaldi. It's like chrome, but with less
nagging and better UI
L181[14:24:43] <Izaya> vivaldi is nonfree,
no?
L182[14:25:14]
<Wuerfel_21>
chrome isn't free, either. both are based on chromium though
L183[14:25:15] <asie> chromium is only
truly "free" if you use ungoogled-chromium
L184[14:25:25] <Izaya> considering how
important a web browser is to most people, using one that isn't
Free seems like a mistake
L185[14:25:33] <asie> for that matter,
intellij idea community is only truly FOSS if you remove the SVN
plugin
L186[14:26:56]
<Wuerfel_21>
I care more about free-beer-free than free-speech-free TBH, but
chrome (and win 10, for that matter) trying to be everyones nanny
just pisses me off
L187[14:27:20] <Izaya> Forecaster:
consider also firefox forks
L188[14:29:26] <logan2611> could also just
consider firefox
L189[14:29:42] <logan2611> again
L190[14:33:00] <AmandaC> Except, you know,
Firefox is having mysterious issues for him, like he said
L191[14:33:34] <asie> mysterious
issues?
L192[14:34:29] <aquawarp> Hey asie
L193[14:34:31] <AmandaC> yesterday it was
crashing hard when he launched a game, today apparently it's
forgotten how HTML resources work
L194[14:34:35] <asie> hi aquawarp
L195[14:34:45] <asie> AmandaC: i know my
friend also has crashes with asm.js on Firefox
L196[14:34:48] <asie> the connecting
factor is Arch Linux
L197[14:34:50] <asie> maybe
L198[14:34:59] <asie> it works fine for
me, anyway :|
L199[14:35:00] <aquawarp> How's lunitic
going?
L200[14:35:06] <AmandaC> he's on windows,
I believe
L201[14:35:08] <asie> not maintained much
right now, why?
L202[14:35:10] <asie> AmandaC: that is
stranger
L203[14:35:13] <asie> maybe FF did mess
something up
L204[14:35:50] <aquawarp> Just curious if
you got that drive issue fixed
L205[14:36:08] <aquawarp> Arch
Linux?
L206[14:36:18] <asie> aquawarp: what drive
issue
L207[14:36:23] <asie> with the oversized
files?
L208[14:36:44] <aquawarp> The one that
didn't allow lunitic to be installed
L209[14:36:51] <asie> just mkdir
L210[14:36:55] <asie> or tell Vexatos to
fix OPPM
L211[14:37:12] <aquawarp> Mkdir?
L212[14:37:16] <asie> mkdir
L213[14:37:21] <asie> i thought i
documented it on the forums
L214[14:37:29] <aquawarp> Oh
L215[14:37:30] <asie> mkdir
/usr/lib/lunatic86 or whatever
L216[14:37:48] <aquawarp> Ok
L217[14:37:52] <aquawarp> Will try
L218[14:41:32]
<Forecaster>
It seems JavaScript had just... Stopped working
L219[14:42:02]
<Forecaster>
Globally, everywhere, not due to noscript or content settings
L220[14:42:18]
<Forecaster>
It's just... Not doing anything
L221[14:47:24]
<Forecaster>
uh
L223[14:47:27]
<Forecaster>
what
L224[14:48:28]
<Forecaster>
that's part of an addon...
L225[14:48:30] <AmandaC> bad chrome
extension port
L226[14:48:34] <AmandaC> +?
L227[14:48:48] <Izaya> >no
javascript
L228[14:48:49]
<Forecaster>
did I delete something I should have when cleaning up the system
drive...
L229[14:48:50] <Izaya> no loss
L230[14:49:09]
<Forecaster>
It is a loss.
L231[14:49:16]
<Forecaster>
userscripts don't work
L232[14:49:23]
<Forecaster>
imgur doesn't work
L233[14:52:27]
<Wuerfel_21>
also, speaking of vivaldi, i've got a 350 MB process of it i can't
taskkill...
L235[14:52:28]
<Wuerfel_21>
Also, what fool thought translating command-line errors to the
user's locale was a good idea?
L236[14:53:04] <Izaya> kill -9 it
L237[14:53:17]
<Forecaster>
I've tried Vivaldi, it didn't stick
L238[14:53:18] <CompanionCube> because it
is a good idea?
L239[14:55:04]
<Wuerfel_21>
no. it isn't. Makes searching for the error online a PITA, because
you first have to look up the english translation to get the best
answer
L240[14:55:44] <CompanionCube> you could
just change the locale temporarily for that
L241[14:57:29]
<Wuerfel_21>
Windows only has locale switching in Ultimate edition, iirc
L242[14:57:47]
<Wuerfel_21>
windows meaning windows 7, the only good one
L243[14:57:57] <CompanionCube> sucks to be
you then
L244[14:58:23]
<Forecaster>
install windows in english
L245[14:58:25]
<Forecaster>
it's what I do
L246[15:05:12]
<Wuerfel_21>
i think i'll use some grey market win7 ultimate on my new PC when i
get it. Linux is nice, but i have some software that still doesn't
work well in wine (it doesn't implement DirectMusic, shell
extensions and a bunch of other things. Also, i hear getting it to
actually change screen res when something goes fullscreen instead
of just smearing it across the desktop res is somewhat
involved)
L247[15:14:40]
<Forecaster>
sigh, I'll deal with this move some other day :|
L248[15:14:47]
<Forecaster>
gonna have to export all my bookmarks
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<cat2002> I
wish there was an option to disable the modem components send
function.
L254[16:38:07]
<Forecaster>
Why?
L255[16:38:51]
<cat2002>
It's unrealistic and prevents people from seeing messages not
intended for them.
L256[16:39:38] <Izaya> You could probably
modify machine.lua to intercept calls to modem.send and apply them
to modem.broadcast
L257[16:40:05]
<cat2002>
machine.lua?
L258[16:40:18] <Izaya> the thing that runs
before the BIOS
L259[16:40:23] <Izaya> it also sets up
memory limits and such
L260[16:40:24]
<cat2002>
ah, okay.
L261[16:40:28] <Izaya> (I think)
L262[16:40:33]
<cat2002>
guess I'll look into that.
L263[16:40:33]
<cat2002>
thanks
L264[16:49:38]
<cat2002> I
honestly have no clue how I would go about doing this.
L265[16:50:52] <Izaya> I think machine.lua
is somewhere in the jar
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<cat2002>
Well yeah
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<cat2002> I
found that.
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<cat2002>
hmm
L271[17:00:50] <CompanionCube> wasn't
there a mod to add a sniffing card
L272[17:01:07] <Izaya> there was a mod to
add a snooping card at least
L273[17:01:12] <Izaya> wait no
L274[17:01:14] <Izaya> spoofing
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<cat2002>
Yeah, computronics adds a spoofing card
L277[17:04:07]
<cat2002> I
want to make it so that all cards can see all messages
L278[17:08:42]
<Toothless the
Dragon> there are soooo many open issues on the github
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<cat2002>
Okay, I think I figured it out now.
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<Teris>
Hello!
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L282[17:41:13] <AmandaC> %choose
halucinate or keep waiting for radiation to be ready
L283[17:41:13] <MichiBot> AmandaC: I spy
with my robotic eye something beginning with halucinate!
L284[17:48:18] <AmandaC> oh hey,the
radiation's ready
L285[18:04:22]
<cat2002> I
most certainly managed to modify that file.
L286[18:04:30]
<cat2002>
Didn't get what I wanted though.
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L291[19:27:24] <ba7888b72413a16a> humans
go extinct, haiku sees a beta release candidate
L292[19:27:51] <ba7888b72413a16a> sun
completely depletes all of its hydrogen, haiku 1.0 released
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L296[19:58:09] <AmandaC> The last star
collapses into a black hole, ba7888b72413a16a shuts up about
dunking on haiku
L297[20:00:33] <AmandaC> The One Question
is answered, The Cycle begins anew
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<cat2002> I
have a question
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<cat2002>
where is the log file located for opencomputers?
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<cat2002>
anyone know where I would find a log file for opencomputers?
L312[21:45:46]
<cat2002>
ah, nevermind
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<cat2002>
looks like it just logs to the forge log.
L314[21:55:54] <andreww> what kind of log
are you looking for?
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<cat2002> I
was messing around with machine.lua
L317[22:04:24]
<cat2002> it
said there was an error so I was looking for the log
L318[22:04:35]
<cat2002>
Anyway, I found that and finally did what I wanted to do.
L319[22:07:00]
<cat2002>
now modem.send broadcasts the message instead.
L320[22:08:02] <payonel> cat2002: you want
modem.send to broadcast?
L321[22:09:48]
<cat2002>
Yeah
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<cat2002> It
seems dumb to me that you can send messages between computers
without other computers being able to see them.
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<cat2002>
and I didn't see a config option
L324[22:12:16]
<cat2002> so
I spent 5 hours modifying the code.
L325[22:12:54] <xarses> so there is a
broadcast command in modem
L326[22:13:34] <payonel> cat2002....why
not just use broadcast then?
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<cat2002>
Because I didn't want to be able to use send.
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<cat2002>
don't question my strange logic.
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<cat2002>
plus it was fun doing that.
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