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L1[00:03:11] <beesnees2> Izaya: is
kittenOS's graphical system anything like wayland
L2[00:03:14] <beesnees2> or x11
L3[00:03:22] <Izaya> uuhm
L4[00:03:25] <beesnees2> maybe I should just
install it
L5[00:03:32] <beesnees2> and see
L6[00:03:58] <Izaya> probably more like
wayland than X11 but I'd say it's more like the Haiku Interface Kit
than either of those
L7[00:04:17] <Izaya> that is to say, tightly
integrated into the OS and not network capable
L8[00:10:18]
<Kodos> I
forget, was SecureOS broken, or just abandoned but functional
L9[00:10:33] <Izaya> probably somewhere in
between at this point
L10[00:10:41] <Izaya> the sha256 lib works
though I think
L11[00:14:29] <beesnees2> how do I install
KOS NEO
L12[00:15:25] <Izaya> download the
installer from the github releases page
L13[00:15:44] <Izaya> stick it on the disk
you want to install it to as init.lua
L14[00:15:46] <beesnees2> I'm booted into
the installer
L15[00:15:56] <beesnees2> maybe I should
keep reading the docs
L16[00:15:58] <Izaya> then boot from it and
it's done
L17[00:16:21] <beesnees2> oh, it installed
it on the disk
L18[00:16:59] <beesnees2> now how do I use
it
L19[00:17:05] <beesnees2> :P
L20[00:17:07] <Izaya> right click to get a
menu
L21[00:19:09] *
beesnees2 just wants a tiling WM with terminals
L22[00:19:17] <beesnees2> though this is
impressive
L23[00:19:29] <Izaya> note that it'll run
on a machine with a single stick of T1 memory
L24[00:19:31] <Izaya> I think that's p
cool
L25[00:25:06] <beesnees2> installing
minitel on openos instead
L26[00:28:43] <Izaya> I assume you know
where the docs are and such?
L27[00:29:41] <beesnees2> yeah
L28[00:29:46] <Izaya> aight cool
L29[00:29:54] <Izaya> if there's anything I
can improve do tell me
L30[00:30:39] <Izaya> I'll be a bit busy
over the next few days but I'll note it down
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L32[00:33:48] <beesnees2> how should I
connect up relays
L33[00:34:01] <beesnees2> just wing it
because routing will figure itself out?
L34[00:34:27] <Izaya> it'll be mostly
fine
L35[00:34:41] <Izaya> computers receiving
messages from wireless relays confuses them a bit is the only thing
I can think of
L36[00:36:22] <beesnees2> or should I just
be replacing certain high load relays with computers
L37[00:36:31] <Izaya> nah
L38[00:36:38] <beesnees2> and enable
`route`
L39[00:36:40] <Izaya> a max spec relay can
push a lot more packets than a computer, I think
L40[00:37:01] <Izaya> though I do need to
do some testing
L41[00:37:17] <Izaya> %remindme 24h test
whether a relay or computer is faster
L42[00:37:17] <MichiBot> I'll remind you
about "test whether a relay or computer is faster" at
08/21/2018 12:37:16 AM
L43[00:38:52] <Izaya> from that discussion
about GPU speeds on the forums apparently component calls may or
may not be faster than I think
L44[00:39:14] <Izaya> I *thought* that
computers could only do 20packets/sec because they can only do
component calls once per tick but apparently not
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L49[00:53:34]
<Kodos> Bah,
starting to remember how much I hate making new characters on
MMOs
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L51[01:01:14] <beesnees2> Izaya: what kind
of throughput do you expect minitel to have with default
config
L52[01:01:30] <Izaya> Depends on packet
type
L53[01:02:00] <Izaya> Directly connected
unreliable packets should be the same as sending packets
normally
L54[01:02:13] <Izaya> Reliable ones wait
for an acknowledgement before sending the next
L55[01:02:35] <Izaya> So about half
that
L56[01:02:51] <beesnees2> how similar is it
to TCP's congestion control
L57[01:04:02] <Izaya> Much dumber.
L58[01:04:21] <Izaya> no sliding
window
L59[01:04:40] <Izaya> just data and
acknowledgement packets
L60[01:05:49] <Izaya> Just had a fun idea
on how I can make it possibly get better throughput on a congested
network though
L61[01:10:03] <beesnees2> can I use minitel
without establishing connections?
L62[01:10:09] <Izaya> Yeah
L63[01:10:14] <beesnees2> there's
minitel.send but no minitel.receiveOnePacket(port)
L64[01:10:23] <Izaya> why would there
be?
L65[01:10:31] <Izaya> That's why the event
library exists :p
L66[01:10:34] <beesnees2> ah
L67[01:10:39] <Izaya> you'll get net_msg
events
L68[01:10:43] <beesnees2> so it works the
way modem works
L69[01:10:47] <beesnees2> ok
L70[01:10:53] <Izaya> net_msg, from, port,
data
L71[01:11:41] <Izaya> Hm, I'll need to add
that to the docs
L72[01:15:21] <beesnees2> not sure what the
difference between rsend and send is
L73[01:15:32] <beesnees2> is it just that
rsend has a blocking option?
L74[01:15:42]
<Forecaster>
%loot
L75[01:15:43] <MichiBot> Forecaster: You
get a loot box! It contains a Shiny super super good fast screen
drawing script! (10%)
L76[01:17:17] <Izaya> beesnees2: send can
deal with data longer than the MTU
L77[01:17:30] <beesnees2> ah
L78[01:21:55] <beesnees2> hm, even if using
computers in certain places instead of relays is slower, it should
speed up stuff by preventing unnecessary traffic from going through
relays
L79[01:22:02] <beesnees2> my network is
basically a circle right now
L80[01:22:25] <beesnees2> well, it would be
a circle if I completed it all the way around
L81[01:27:38] <Izaya> messages go through
computers
L82[01:28:02] <Izaya> Only way to control
that is using tiny wireless jumps or linked cards
L83[01:29:42] <beesnees2> oh yeah, hadn't
thought about that problem
L84[01:30:56] <Izaya> You can do some stuff
with microcontrollers but that might lead to lost packets.
L86[01:33:12]
<Forecaster>
that would be a lot freakier in x-com
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L90[02:27:37] <beesnees2> I feel like a mod
should just package up minitel support into a router block
L91[02:27:59] <Izaya> hehe
L92[02:28:21] <beesnees2> and
firewall
L93[02:28:42] <Izaya> it'd be cool, that's
for sure, but I don't know Java
L94[02:32:20]
<Kleadron> i
feel like i should read an entire book about lua so i understand
things properly
L95[02:33:07] <Izaya> Programming In Lua is
good
L96[02:34:23] <Izaya> The book, that
is
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L98[02:36:03] <Mimiru> %pil
L100[02:36:21]
<Kodos>
Izaya, which edition?'
L101[02:36:31] <Mimiru> The first edition
is pretty helpful
L102[02:37:10] <Izaya> All of them
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L105[02:37:36] <Izaya> First edition is
free so I guess that one's the one I'm talking about :D
L106[02:38:28] <Izaya> ah yes, they'd be
more likely to end up with a white-on-black screen in that
situation
L107[02:38:45] <Izaya> penguin panic
L108[02:38:47] <ben_mkiv> yea, openos
needs some kernel panic
L109[02:38:52] <Izaya> sounds like a
game
L110[02:38:56] <Izaya> maybe I should make
a game
L111[02:38:57] <ben_mkiv> lol
L112[02:39:12] <ben_mkiv> xD
L113[02:39:22] <ben_mkiv> actually that
really sounds like a good game
L114[02:39:25] <ben_mkiv> so you better
make a good game
L115[02:39:51] <Izaya> think I could do a
good randomly generated platformer in 4k?
L116[02:40:25] <ben_mkiv> probably... make
it exclusive for openos
L117[02:40:33] <ben_mkiv> when asies
tweaks are in official builds
L118[02:40:43] <Izaya> eeeh the 4k is so
it goes in an EEPROM
L119[02:40:51] <Izaya> but doing it on
OpenOS would be simpler
L120[02:41:14] <ben_mkiv> well, 4k is a
challenge...
L121[02:41:38] <Izaya> I'd prefer
maintainable code
L122[02:42:10] <Izaya> we'll see
L123[02:43:55] <beesnees2> well this makes
me sad
L125[02:44:02] <beesnees2> my favorite
configuration format
L126[02:44:08] <beesnees2> only 0.4.0 spec
is supported
L127[02:44:30] <ben_mkiv> who needs that
when you can serialize tables?
L129[02:44:46] <Izaya> serialized lua
tables are nice
L130[02:44:57] <beesnees2> they're not
that nice
L131[02:45:07] <beesnees2> toml is better
for config files
L132[02:45:11] <beesnees2> IMO
L133[02:45:25] <Izaya> they use toml for
rust build things right?
L134[02:45:26] <ben_mkiv> well, i agree
they are a pain to edit with a editor
L135[02:45:31] <beesnees2> Izaya:
yeah
L136[02:45:37] <beesnees2> toml would map
really well to lua
L137[02:46:23] <Izaya> I don't remember
disliking it too much
L138[02:46:27] <Izaya> which is better
than most formats
L139[02:46:55] <Izaya> less obnoxious than
YAML
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<Forecaster>
%loot time
L149[04:20:39] <MichiBot> Forecaster: You
get a loot box! It contains porous black potion
L150[04:20:46]
<Forecaster>
%drink ^
L151[04:20:46] <MichiBot> Forecaster's
toes turn invisible.
L152[04:20:53]
<Forecaster>
oh toes
L153[04:22:26] <Inari> %loot
L154[04:22:27] <MichiBot> Inari: You get a
loot box! It contains two lockpicks.
L155[04:22:30] <Inari> time?
L156[04:22:55]
<Forecaster>
time?
L157[04:22:59]
<Forecaster>
oh
L158[04:23:10]
<Forecaster>
it doesn't take any arguments :P
L159[04:23:17]
<Forecaster>
so you can write whatever you want after
L160[04:23:33]
<Forecaster>
so "loot time"
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L163[04:23:52]
<Forecaster>
%loot time is now
L164[04:23:53] <MichiBot> Forecaster: You
get a loot box! It contains a Shiny Clippy! (10%)
L165[04:23:59]
<Forecaster>
oh
L166[04:24:01]
<Forecaster>
oh dear
L167[04:24:09] <Corded> *
<Forecaster> throws it into a vat of molten iron
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L169[04:37:57]
<Kodos>
%loot
L170[04:37:58] <MichiBot> Kodos: You get a
loot box! It contains a brick.
L171[04:38:25]
<Kodos>
%shell beesnees2
L172[04:38:25] *
MichiBot loads Bernie Sanders into a shell and fires it. It strikes
the ground near beesnees2, tiin57 and modmuss50. They each take 8,
7 and 6 splash damage respectively.
L173[04:53:52] <beesnees2> but I voted for
bernie sanders :(
L174[04:54:12] <beesnees2> %shell
Kodos
L175[04:54:12] *
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strikes Kodos. They take 13 damage. greaser|q and TheCryptek stood
too close and take 7 and 5 damage respectively.
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<Forecaster>
I didn't vote :D
L179[05:35:04] <Inari> %loot phat
loot
L180[05:35:04] <MichiBot> Inari: You get a
loot box! It contains a paperclip, big one.
L181[05:35:25] <Skye> Izaya: whut
L182[05:35:41] <Izaya> Huh?
L183[05:36:38] <Inari> %loot AmandaC
L184[05:36:38] <MichiBot> Inari: You get a
loot box! It contains a doorknob.
L185[05:38:55]
<Lizzian>
%loot
L186[05:38:55] <MichiBot> Lizzian: You get
a loot box! It contains an empty soup can.
L187[05:39:21]
<Lizzian>
MichiBot likes her soup
L188[05:39:23] <Skye> Izaya: I was
pinged
L189[06:08:29] <Izaya> Skye: Haiku Beta 1
by September 18
L190[06:08:48] <Skye> Shiny
L192[06:21:26] <AmandaC> Inari: h-hey
that's my door knob D:
L193[06:24:00] <Inari> AmandaC: Tehe, now
you can't open the door to escape!
L194[06:24:19] <AmandaC> D: I
L195[06:27:40]
<Forecaster>
you can have one from my pile, I've collected a lot of them
L196[06:37:39] <AmandaC> %choose finish it
or don't
L197[06:37:39] <MichiBot> AmandaC: finish
it
L198[06:39:12]
<Forecaster>
Fatality!
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<Forecaster>
%inv add ker-chunker
L203[06:59:59] *
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get some good swings in with this.
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L206[07:20:50] <MichiBot>
Inou-Battle
wa Nichijou-kei no Naka de - "Give Lissun back" |
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L207[07:21:40] <ben_mkiv> is NSFW content
allowed on github? xD
L209[07:22:46] <Izaya> Is it explicitly
not allowed?
L210[07:23:17] <ben_mkiv> just wondering
because of some repo someone linked a while ago xD
L211[07:23:19] *
Inari wonders why you ask
L212[07:23:24] <ben_mkiv> ^^
L213[07:23:25] <ben_mkiv> xD
L214[07:23:26] <Inari> What repo
L215[07:31:54] <Inari> Ugh
L216[07:32:04] <Inari> It's so hard to
find interesting YT channels that don't invalidate themselves
L217[07:32:19] <ben_mkiv> just watch
bibi
L218[07:32:38] <Inari> Sounds
uninteresting
L219[07:33:15] <ben_mkiv> social
engineering
L220[07:33:41]
<Forecaster>
what do you mean "invalidate themselves"
L221[07:34:57] <Inari> I watch 2 video
about subjects I don't know a lot about and it seems good, then I
see another video with some subject I do know something about (or
at least a little more thant he other subjects) and the video
either gets it completely wrong or makes many mistakes. So now I'm
left with "Great, so I can't watch videos of it I don't know
much about because I might learn wrong stuff"
L222[07:37:28]
<Forecaster>
watch them for the entertainment? :P
L223[07:38:49] <ben_mkiv> they wouldnt
make youtube videos if they would understand that topic
L224[07:39:05]
<Forecaster>
what
L225[07:39:08] <ben_mkiv> what?
L226[07:39:22]
<Forecaster>
why wouldn't they make youtube videos?
L227[07:39:35] <ben_mkiv> you feel
offended because of your railcraft series? xD
L228[07:40:12]
<Forecaster>
no, I don't understand your statement and want clarification
L229[07:41:12] <ben_mkiv> well it doesnt
apply to all
L230[07:42:00] <ben_mkiv> but arent those
who understand a topic still curious if they are right and fear to
do false statements?
L231[07:43:57]
<Forecaster>
I have no idea what you're talking about
L232[07:44:42] <ben_mkiv> me neither
L233[07:44:55] <ben_mkiv> i should make a
youtube video about that
L234[07:45:01] <Izaya> >talking about
things you know
L235[07:45:04] <Izaya> doesn't sound
fun
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L239[08:50:05] <Inari> %inv give MichiBot
all-natural moon cheese
L240[08:50:06] <MichiBot> Inari: Unknown
sub-command 'give' (Try: list, create (add), remove (rem, del),
preserve (pre), unpreserve (unpre), count, favourite (fav))
L241[08:50:17] <Inari> %give MichiBot
all-natural moon cheese
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L245[08:53:57] <Inari> %pet Vexatos
L246[08:53:57] *
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<Wuerfel_21>
the frigg is this bouncer doing
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<Mimiru>
Whatever it wants @Wuerfel_21
L254[10:17:29]
<Mimiru>
Lol
L255[10:19:43]
<Lizzian>
That reminds me I need to update my bouncer
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L263[11:45:55] <payonel> Izaya: beesnees2:
if you (or others) want to make a stripped down version of openos
-- it would be reasonable to discuss your ideas with me
L264[11:46:11] <payonel> i can help lay
out the core libs of openos, and why they are core, and what it
would take to remove them
L265[11:47:43] <payonel> openos is quite
minimal for boot. yes there is some bonus infrastructure in place
to facilitate loading advanced libs later, but less than ppl would
probably bet
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L270[12:20:46] <payonel> Inari: 'open link
in browser' ... NOT MY MAIN MONITOR, yep ... inari linked some hot
men in a sauna and i just opened that on my main monitor at
work
L271[12:22:20]
<Forecaster>
why would you open an inari link at work to begin with
L272[12:22:46] <payonel> it's more
exciting that way
L274[12:24:26] <payonel> Mobie: hi, i'm in
irc and i dont see multilines very easily
L275[12:24:38] <payonel> i followed your
link, and i've read it, but fyi, i'll read it better if you press
enter after each line
L276[12:25:21] <payonel> os.execute
doesn't "return" the output of ls, but rather the success
of dispatching the command
L277[12:25:36] <payonel> if you want the
output, you'll want to redirect or read from the stdout of that
process
L278[12:25:44] <payonel> i recommend you
use io.popen
L279[12:26:05] <payonel> and correct, you
cannot send tables over a network, but you can send strings
L280[12:26:07] <payonel> you have 2
options
L281[12:26:28] <payonel> you can pass more
parameters in your packet, or you can serialize your strings into a
single param
L282[12:27:03]
<Mobie>
Alright, thanks!
L283[12:27:33]
<Mobie>
Making an SSH Client w/ server, works, just needed those 2
things.
L284[12:27:34] <payonel> e.g. local
modem_packet_payload = "{'first string', 'second
string'}" modem.send(modem_packet_payload) --- yes i'm
omitting the other obvious send params for brevity
L285[12:28:47] <payonel> also fyi,
io.popen will create a *stream* and attach it to your process'
stdout
L286[12:28:54] <payonel> but that stream
is NOT a tty stream
L287[12:29:16] <payonel> many/most
programs behave different under non-tty streams
L288[12:29:39] <payonel> can you get
around this? yes
L289[12:29:55] <payonel> you create a pty
stream. it just takes a few extra steps to do this
L290[12:30:12] <payonel> hopefully, you
dont care :)
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L293[12:30:51] <payonel> MichiBot:
o/
L294[12:31:44] <Michiyo> :P
L295[12:31:53] <payonel>
tab-complete
L296[12:31:55] <payonel> deal with
it
L297[12:32:00] <Michiyo> Loaded log from
Mon May 14 04:34:00 2018
L298[12:32:08] <Michiyo> Man.. it's been a
while.
L299[12:32:17] <payonel> ha
L300[12:46:05]
<Mobie>
payonel how would I grab say the second index of that table? Since
it's still a string, would I need to convert it into a table?
L301[12:46:41] <payonel> @Mobie on the
receiving end?
L302[12:46:52]
<Mobie>
Yes.
L303[12:47:00] <payonel> deserialize it
back to a table
L305[12:47:27]
<Mobie> It's
not serialized is it?
L306[12:47:32]
<Mobie> The
method you showed.
L307[12:47:48] <payonel> >
<+payonel> you can pass more parameters in your packet, or
you can serialize your strings into a single param
L308[13:01:00] <Inari> Why does
Thunderbird have screen tearing
L309[13:01:22]
<Forecaster>
cuz it has the leet gpx
L310[13:05:22] <gamax92> Why must nvidia
driver crash
L311[13:05:38]
<Forecaster>
cuz of the leet gpx
L312[13:05:39] <gamax92> but give you no
way to figure out wtf happened
L313[13:10:24]
<Mobie> Got
working SSH in OpenOS c:
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L315[13:20:19]
<Forecaster>
%loot now please
L316[13:20:19] <MichiBot> Forecaster: You
get a loot box! It contains a Magic rowbot! (25%)
L317[13:20:35] <Corded> *
<Forecaster> rows his bot out to sea
L318[13:20:39] <Corded> *
<Forecaster> sinks
L319[13:23:15] <payonel> @Mobie: nice
:)
L320[13:32:05] *
Inari sticks AmandaC in a container and pushes it
L321[13:39:05]
<Lizzian>
%choose SE or Evey or mailserver
L322[13:39:05] <MichiBot> Lizzian:
mailserver
L323[13:39:11]
<Lizzian>
hmm
L324[13:39:23]
<Lizzian>
okay
L325[14:00:34] <AmandaC> Inari: but now
where you keep the keys is public info!
L326[14:07:06] <AmandaC> I'm not a
stateless kitteh
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L331[14:42:05] <MCDanielLP> hi
L332[14:42:21]
<Forecaster>
%hello
L333[14:42:21] <MichiBot> Forecaster:
Hello! Welcome to #oc! The one and only opencomputers channel!
Please ask your questions directly (dont ask to ask) and provide
error/code examples! (Use pastebin.com if theyre more than one
line!) Dont mind the random conversation you might have walked
into.
L334[14:42:39] <MCDanielLP> jo was geht
leute kommt auf /sämix.eu
L335[14:42:55]
<Forecaster>
english
L336[14:43:12] <MCDanielLP>
hurensöhne
L337[14:43:19]
<Forecaster>
also no advertising please
L338[14:43:57] <MCDanielLP> FUCK
YOU!!!!/////////////////////////
L339[14:44:08] <Forecaster> %ban
MCDanielLP advertising
L340[14:44:18] <MCDanielLP> hi
L341[14:44:23] <Forecaster> %tban
MCDanielLP 1h advertising
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L343[14:44:31] <Inari> What a nice
person
L344[14:44:34] <gamax92> good person
L345[14:44:35] <Forecaster> very
L346[14:45:10] *
Lizzy shakes head
L347[14:45:25] <Lizzy> hmm, need a name
for my new mail server
L348[14:45:26] *
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L350[14:48:47] <Lizzy> random name
generator to the rescue! my new mail server will be called
Eleonora
L351[14:50:32]
<Forecaster>
\o/
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L356[15:26:01]
<Forecaster>
%loot
L357[15:26:01] <MichiBot> Forecaster: You
get a loot box! It contains an upside-down cross.
L358[15:26:30] <Corded> *
<Forecaster> turns it sideways
L359[15:32:35] <AmandaC> [ stan gets
summoned with his head crooked ]
L360[15:33:36] <Inari> Huh
L361[15:34:03] <Inari> corded doesn't
support videos uploads
L362[15:34:24] <Inari> Or corded is just
dead
L363[15:34:25] <Inari> Could also be
L364[15:34:43] <AmandaC> You killed
her!
L365[15:34:44] <Inari> Oh nope
L366[15:34:45] <Inari> I'm just dumb
L368[15:37:12] *
beesnees2 still can't get over Izaya using haikuOS as daily
driver
L369[15:37:19] <beesnees2> what a nerd,
amirite
L370[15:42:23] <AmandaC> %choose watch
more or read
L371[15:42:23] <MichiBot> AmandaC:
read
L372[15:42:28] <AmandaC> Hrm. Nah
L373[15:43:49] <AmandaC> Note to self:
Look into what made feedreader go apeshit sending my laptop to a
loadavg of 2
L374[15:44:23] <MichiBot> Timed ban of
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L376[15:48:40]
<logan2611>
help my school blocks espernet
L377[15:48:52] <Michiyo> get and use a
bouncer.
L378[15:48:54]
<Joco223> OC
doesn't support forge multi part on 1.12, right?
L379[15:48:54]
<Forecaster>
use a bouncer
L380[15:49:05]
<Forecaster>
@Joco223 correct
L381[15:49:14]
<Joco223>
Does that apply for 3d prints too?
L382[15:49:17] <beesnees2> %choose install
a posix compliant, well supported GNU/Linux distribution like
debian/gentoo or install HaikuOS
L383[15:49:17] <MichiBot> beesnees2:
install HaikuOS
L384[15:49:20] <beesnees2> goddammit
L385[15:49:22]
<Forecaster>
probably
L386[15:49:40]
<Joco223> So
i wouldnt be able to cover cables with prints
L387[15:49:41]
<Joco223>
Hmmm
L388[15:52:24] <Izaya> beesnees2: max
comf
L389[15:52:32] <Izaya> Beta 1 soon
L390[15:53:08] <beesnees2> if haikuOS
actually does have its first stable release anytime soon
L391[15:53:10] <beesnees2> I promise
you
L392[15:53:18] <beesnees2> I will install
it on a VM and forget about it again
L394[15:56:19] <beesnees2> in fact I'll
install it on a VM and forget about it right now
L395[15:56:34] <beesnees2> what might have
changed since I last did this 1.5 yrs ago
L396[15:56:36] <beesnees2> with
nightly
L397[15:57:20] <beesnees2> did they ever
give haiku OS a good command line? :^)
L398[15:57:50] <CompanionCube> it's POSIX
compliant and they ported bash since forever?
L399[15:58:11] <beesnees2> I thought it
isn't posix compliant
L400[15:58:21] <beesnees2> and that's why
projects like libreoffice have a difficult time porting to
it?
L401[15:59:11] <CompanionCube> beesnees2:
I doubt that's specifically related to POSIX compliance
L402[15:59:16] <CompanionCube> but it's
more general non-unixness
L403[15:59:29] <beesnees2> well yeah
L404[15:59:39] <beesnees2> a lot of POSIX
compliance has gone to shit over the years
L405[15:59:48] <beesnees2> with OSes just
doing whatever they want
L406[16:00:05] <beesnees2> doesn't mean a
whole lot, when linux is still referred to as
"unix-like"
L408[16:00:17] <CompanionCube> ...wait,
wrong link
L410[16:01:01] <beesnees2> hm, I didn't
think haiku OS actually comes with bash
L411[16:01:07] <beesnees2> so it's
GNU/HaikuOS?
L412[16:01:14] <CompanionCube>
doubtful
L413[16:01:54] <CompanionCube> because it
has GNU tools does not a GNU userland make
L414[16:01:59] <beesnees2> now I'm
confused how unix like this actually is
L415[16:02:06] <beesnees2> CompanionCube:
lol yeah of course, I'm joking
L416[16:02:28] <beesnees2> although
L417[16:02:31] <beesnees2> it is of course
100% arbitrary
L418[16:02:53] <beesnees2> I should be
calling my OS GNU/systemd/X11/Linux
L419[16:03:21] <CompanionCube> lol
L420[16:03:40] <CompanionCube> GNU/Linux
is a better fit than GNU/HaikuOS
L421[16:04:12] <beesnees2> depends how
much GNU haiku is really bringing in
L422[16:04:42] <beesnees2> like where does
the `ls` binary come from?
L423[16:04:50] <beesnees2> haikuOS
custom?
L424[16:08:22] <CompanionCube> i think
gnu/haiku would be wrong because only parts of the *nix bits would
be from e.g GNU
L425[16:10:22] <CompanionCube> so unless
you view haiku only from the UNIX viewpoint (which would be missing
the point of Haiku), the term's inaccurate
L426[16:10:49] <CompanionCube> Izaya: what
do you think?
L427[16:13:02] <beesnees2> stop making me
curious to inspect haikuOS myself, I could cancel this download at
any moment
L428[16:14:12] <beesnees2> idk how I
missed the terminal last time I tried it out in a VM and forgot
about it
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L430[16:18:47] <beesnees2> too late, the
live cd is booting
L431[16:19:21] <beesnees2> setting up
partitions
L432[16:22:07] <Izaya> beesnees2: GNU
compiler, mostly BSD tools
L433[16:24:27] <beesnees2> I'm
retarded
L434[16:24:35] <beesnees2> how to confirm
DriveSetup options
L435[16:24:43] <beesnees2> there's no
"apply changes" or anything
L436[16:25:01] <Izaya> eyup
L437[16:25:25] <beesnees2> what, am I
screwed? gonna have to use cfdisk on linux?
L438[16:25:30] <beesnees2> lol
L439[16:25:47] <Izaya> Nah
L440[16:26:05] <Izaya> If it's set up just
close it, IIRC
L441[16:27:17] <beesnees2> I can write a
bootloader but I cannot select a partition to install / to
L442[16:27:42] <beesnees2> trying to
change the mount point for a filesystem gives "Could not mount
partition" "Error: Invalid Argument"
L443[16:28:26] <Izaya> what
L444[16:28:37] <beesnees2> idk I broked
it
L445[16:28:45] <beesnees2> restarting from
the beginning
L446[16:28:48] <Izaya> did you format a
partition
L447[16:28:56] <beesnees2> yeah as BeFS or
whatever it's called
L448[16:29:11] <Izaya> Huh
L449[16:29:23] <Izaya> Nightly build,
right?
L450[16:29:28] <beesnees2> yeah
L451[16:29:35] <beesnees2> there's nothing
else son
L452[16:29:42] <beesnees2> other than some
build from 2012 that probably sucks
L453[16:29:47] <beesnees2> lol
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L455[16:31:35] <Izaya> Yeah
L457[16:31:45] <Izaya> Pre package
manager
L458[16:32:13] <Izaya> Gotta format it
man
L459[16:32:17] <beesnees2> what
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L461[16:32:19] <beesnees2> it is
L462[16:32:31] <Izaya> That's just set as
the partition type
L463[16:32:32] <beesnees2> ok
L464[16:32:41] <Izaya> Not formatted
L465[16:32:55] <beesnees2> that's
confusing UI
L466[16:33:29] <beesnees2> it asks which
FS is going to be used on that, but that shouldn't matter unless
it's GPT
L467[16:33:41] <beesnees2> seems to work
now
L468[16:33:41] <Izaya> Needs a guided
install mode tbh
L469[16:34:01] <Izaya> And MBR still has
partition types
L470[16:34:16] <beesnees2> ah yeah
true
L471[16:34:25] <beesnees2> it's just...
not a 128 bit identifier
L472[16:34:39] <Izaya> No, more like
8.
L473[16:35:53] <beesnees2> wow, a whole
lot of gnu utils here
L474[16:36:29] <Izaya> I mean, it is
mostly POSIX
L475[16:39:29] <beesnees2> the screensaver
crashed
L476[16:39:37] <beesnees2> pretty
important functionality right there
L477[16:40:49] <beesnees2> Izaya: hm, what
web browser is in the default install
L478[16:40:55] <beesnees2> I thought
netsurf was on it
L479[16:40:58] <beesnees2> but can't find
it
L480[16:41:05] <Izaya> WebPositive
L481[16:41:32] <beesnees2> also
L482[16:41:39] <beesnees2> don't enable
LCD subpixel antialiasing
L483[16:41:48] <Izaya> You'll find it's a
lot more capable than netsurf
L484[16:42:12] <Izaya> Yeah it screws up
all the text rendering
L485[16:42:17] <beesnees2> yeah
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L487[16:42:23] <beesnees2> although in
places where it works
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L489[16:42:34] <beesnees2> it looks
slightly slightly better than my current configuration in
linux/x11
L490[16:44:48] <Michiyo> So,
question..
L491[16:45:20] <Michiyo> Given a key, and
an encrypted file, encrypted via some unknown means, what process
would you use to decrypt said file?
L492[16:45:47] <Izaya> Probably try PGP
first
L493[16:45:55] <beesnees2> first I would
run `file` on the file
L494[16:45:59] <beesnees2> and then give
up if it's unknown
L495[16:46:28] <beesnees2> and then use a
$5 crowbar attack to get the cipher's source code
L496[16:46:43] <Michiyo> seems our inhouse
dev team has tried before to decrypt this before, and failed. Sadly
I don't have access to the data right now or I'd be trying
L497[16:47:28] <ben_mkiv> read the first
bytes if it contains some header informations
L498[16:47:29] <Michiyo> the company we
get the data from gives us the key, tells us to decrypt it ourself,
but gives no information on how, then charges the client double+ to
do the decryption for them
L499[16:48:28] *
beesnees2 provides a puke bucket to Michiyo to deal with the
insanity of that
L500[16:48:45] <ben_mkiv> who knows if the
key is correct.... xD
L501[16:48:59] <Michiyo> lmao, well it
*USED* to be atleast
L503[16:49:31] <Michiyo> they changed how
the data was stored in the last 4-5 years, before it was encrypted
with said key in the DB
L504[16:49:45] <Michiyo> they it was split
out to actual files and encrypted, and they say they use the same
key
L505[16:49:51] <Michiyo>
s/they/then/
L506[16:49:51] <MichiBot> <Michiyo>
then it was split out to actual files and encrypted, and they say
they use the same key
L507[16:58:01] <beesnees2> ah shit
L508[16:58:13] <beesnees2> I got
distracted with something else and forgot I had installed a haiku
OS vm
L509[16:58:22] <beesnees2> better just
shut it down and forget about it again
L511[17:24:54] <beesnees2> lol
L512[17:35:34]
<Joco223>
Izaya, is that Haiku that you are running?
L513[17:35:40] <Izaya> Yup
L514[17:36:12] <Inari> %loot
L515[17:36:13] <MichiBot> Inari: You get a
loot box! It contains a cookie with raisins.
L516[17:36:16] <Inari> %pet AmandaC
L517[17:36:16] *
MichiBot pets AmandaC with imo culture. 5 health
gained!
L518[17:36:19] *
Inari eats the cookie
L519[17:38:06] <Izaya> Gonna have to poke
the dev doing the gcc stuff
L520[17:38:18] <Izaya>
experimental/filesystem doesn't build
L521[17:49:00] <Inari> %inv add the great
witch Magilou
L522[17:49:00] *
MichiBot summons 'the great witch Magilou' and adds to her
inventory. This seems rather fragile...
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L524[17:49:34]
<Joco223> I
like the aesthetics of it
L525[17:58:16]
<Joco223>
Beesnees2, i made the change to my inventory scanning and now it
uses getAllStacks
L526[17:58:18]
<Joco223>
Holy
L527[17:58:25]
<Joco223> It
finishes in like 2 seconds
L529[17:59:11] <MichiBot>
All Star
Circulation - Smash Mouth vs. Kana Hanazawa | length:
4m
5s | Likes:
3,945 Dislikes:
38 Views:
124,597 | by
Triple-Q | Published On 16/1/2017
L530[18:01:28] <beesnees2> @Joco223
neato
L531[18:02:21]
<Joco223> A
few more bugs to fix and features to add and i can showcase
it
L533[18:10:44]
<Wuerfel_21>
Marvel, eat your heart out
L535[18:12:01] <MichiBot>
Ashlee
Simpson - La La | length:
3m 45s | Likes:
26,459 Dislikes:
1,181 Views:
6,488,989 | by
AshleeSimpsonVEVO | Published On 7/10/2009
L536[18:14:26]
<Kodos>
%choose cereal or pasta or pork
L537[18:14:27] <MichiBot> Kodos:
pasta
L538[18:14:32]
<Kodos>
Indeed
L539[18:20:23] <AmandaC> %choose watch
more or meh
L540[18:20:24] <MichiBot> AmandaC:
meh
L541[18:21:46] <Inari> %inv add a hardcopy
of "Physically Escalating with Cuties."
L542[18:21:46] *
MichiBot summons 'a hardcopy of "Physically Escalating with
Cuties."' and adds to her inventory. This seems rather
fragile...
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L545[18:36:10] <MichiBot>
Super ☆
Affection ~English Lyrics | length:
3m 27s | Likes:
3,964 Dislikes:
58 Views:
465,865 | by
Kohaku
Kotomine | Published On 12/6/2016
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L547[18:44:52] <beesnees2> Izaya: does
MediaPlayer support opus files
L548[18:44:57] <beesnees2> too lazy to
start the vm
L549[18:52:21] <Izaya> beesnees2: I think
so
L550[18:53:08] <beesnees2> it better
L551[18:53:43] <Izaya> mediakit uses
ffmpeg internally
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L560[20:27:49] <Izaya> is the computer
signal queue FIFO or FILO?
L561[20:28:46] <ben_mkiv|afk> depends on
moon phase
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<Kodos> I
would think it's FIFO, but I could be wrong
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L575[23:51:16]
<Kharkov> is
there any way to listen to the traffic of a relay or otherwise
monitor network traffic
L576[23:52:09] <Kodos> Is the traffic
being broadcasted across a port, or sent to a specific modem
L577[23:52:17]
<Kharkov>
sent
L578[23:52:21] <Kodos> Then no
L579[23:52:36]
<Kharkov>
how are you responding if you are a bot
L580[23:52:49] <Kodos> I am a very well
programmed bot.
L581[23:53:00]
<Kharkov>
lol
L582[23:53:09]
<Kharkov>
thanks
L583[23:53:19] <Kodos> You're welcome.
Thanks for using CleverBot 2.0!
L584[23:55:03] <Kodos> The answer is
42.
L585[23:55:07]
<Kharkov>
potential dirty hack, what happens if multiple components have the
same uuid (from some simple addon)
L586[23:55:24] <Kodos> UUIDs are assigned
randomly, so good luck getting 2 of the same
L587[23:55:40]
<Kharkov>
yeah, thats why I would need to write a simple addon to do it
L588[23:55:51] <Kodos> But why would
anyone want to install such an addon?
L589[23:56:06]
<Kharkov> so
they can monitor traffic
L590[23:56:29] <Kodos> Honestly, if you're
so paranoid you need to monitor traffic on a fake computer inside a
video game, I don't know what to tell you.
L591[23:56:33]
<Kharkov>
which is useful for many situations in networking
L592[23:56:40]
<Kharkov>
its not for paranoia reasons
L593[23:57:15]
<Kharkov>
its because it makes subnetting much easier and more powerful
L594[23:58:09]
<Kharkov>
you can use computronics spoofing to send the packets
L595[23:58:22]
<Kharkov>
but you need to monitor it too