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L5[00:34:43] <gamax92> there, I've hooked up
two queues and got a message system on top of it
L6[00:36:00] <gamax92> and implemented gui
wake for GTK
L7[00:40:46] <gamax92> though I'm kinda
wondering if I even need a queue for the GUI, as waking the GUI can
take a pointer to data
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L9[00:52:26] <ironmountain> o/
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L11[01:30:50] 
<Forecaster>
%loot
<Forecaster>
%lootL12[01:30:51] <MichiBot> Forecaster: You
get a loot box! It contains a Shiny electromagnetic donut!
(10%)
L13[01:31:03] <Forecaster>
oh
<Forecaster>
ohL14[01:38:50] <Izaya> ... Well damn.
L15[01:38:53] <Izaya> That was pretty
cool.
L16[01:39:28] <Izaya> Managed to set up
Samsung's Cardboard clone with my phone to do Elite: Dangerous via
steam streaming
L17[01:44:57] <Forecaster>
neat
<Forecaster>
neatL18[01:45:09] <Forecaster>
did it work with the motion stuff?
<Forecaster>
did it work with the motion stuff?L19[01:45:21] <Izaya> I was using OpenTrack
and a head tracker for the phone
L20[01:45:52] <Izaya> Can't do real GearVR
stuff on anything but like 5 samsung phones and I'm not blowing
$1000 on something that won't last 5 years
L21[01:46:06] <Izaya> so I had to bodge
something for my MotoG3
L22[01:46:31] <Forecaster>
ah
<Forecaster>
ahL23[01:46:44] <Izaya> still, worked nicely
with the motion stuff
L24[01:46:48] <Forecaster>
I'm gonna get the S10 next year :>
<Forecaster>
I'm gonna get the S10 next year :>L25[01:46:59] <Forecaster>
to replace my S8
<Forecaster>
to replace my S8L26[01:47:23] <Forecaster>
if it reviews good that is
<Forecaster>
if it reviews good that isL27[01:47:52] <Izaya> There's still nothing
wrong with my G3 and it's still plenty fast so I'm keeping it till
either of those are no longer true
L28[01:48:08] <Izaya> 80GB is plenty of
storage even with my entire music library
L29[01:48:53] <Forecaster>
my music library wont fit on my 60GB memory card
<Forecaster>
my music library wont fit on my 60GB memory cardL30[01:49:10] *
Izaya nods
L31[01:49:28] <Izaya> if I were using FLAC
for it it wouldn't but I reencoded it to vorbis and it fits
nicely
L32[01:49:58] <Forecaster>
I use mp3 files
<Forecaster>
I use mp3 filesL33[01:50:06] <Izaya> oof
L34[01:50:11] <Izaya> must have a decent
bit more than me then
L35[01:50:32] <Izaya> I figured if it ever
became a problem I'd just get a bigger SD card \o/
L36[01:50:44] <Izaya> Any phone I buy will
have a slot for it so it seems like a reasonable investment.
L37[01:52:41] <Forecaster>
well, I may have acquired a bit over the years...
<Forecaster>
well, I may have acquired a bit over the years...L38[01:53:02] <Forecaster>
and there may also be some unnecessary archived albums and stuff on
my phone
<Forecaster>
and there may also be some unnecessary archived albums and stuff on
my phoneL39[01:53:10] <Forecaster>
I should probably clean those out
<Forecaster>
I should probably clean those outL40[01:57:53] <Izaya> I'm not sure if the
electronics in this is broken or if it's just being a snob but
you're meant to be able to charge your phone when it's in here and
that just isn't happening
L41[02:01:14] <ba7888b72413a16a> can a
microcontroller act as a transposer at all?
L42[02:02:07] <ba7888b72413a16a> also
-
L43[02:02:12] <Forecaster>
if you can put a transposer in it
<Forecaster>
if you can put a transposer in itL44[02:02:12] <ba7888b72413a16a> is the
relay just a component condom?
L45[02:02:22] <ba7888b72413a16a> only
allowing actual network messages through?
L46[02:02:23] <Forecaster>
yes
<Forecaster>
yesL47[02:02:29] <Forecaster>
yes
<Forecaster>
yesL48[02:02:33] <ba7888b72413a16a> okay
cool
L49[02:02:59] <ba7888b72413a16a> just
tested
L50[02:03:05] <ba7888b72413a16a> transposer
seems to be able to go in it
L51[02:03:25] <Forecaster>
then if there is a transposer in the mcu it will be able to use
it
<Forecaster>
then if there is a transposer in the mcu it will be able to use
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L53[02:23:48] <Forecaster>
haha http://curlicuecal.tumblr.com/post/176046846175/so-ive-been-having-fun-playing-with-conceptnet-a
<Forecaster>
haha http://curlicuecal.tumblr.com/post/176046846175/so-ive-been-having-fun-playing-with-conceptnet-aL54[02:23:51] <Forecaster>
this is great
<Forecaster>
this is greatL55[02:24:04] <Forecaster>
"kitten is capable of `mew`"
<Forecaster>
"kitten is capable of `mew`"L57[02:27:09] <Forecaster>
okay... I can't say I expected that
<Forecaster>
okay... I can't say I expected thatL58[02:39:12] <ba7888b72413a16a> how do I
get the terminal server to work again
L59[02:39:29] <ba7888b72413a16a> I remember
it being tricky for some reason
L60[02:40:50] <Forecaster>
not really
<Forecaster>
not reallyL61[02:41:12] <Forecaster>
put it in the rack, connect with component connection to the server
in the rack gui
<Forecaster>
put it in the rack, connect with component connection to the server
in the rack guiL62[02:41:19] <Forecaster>
click with remote terminal
<Forecaster>
click with remote terminalL63[02:41:30] <Forecaster>
what's tricky is that you can't un-bind the remote terminal
<Forecaster>
what's tricky is that you can't un-bind the remote terminalL64[02:41:40] <ba7888b72413a16a> not doing
anything
L65[02:41:59] <ba7888b72413a16a> there is
one indicator light lit up on the terminal server
L66[02:42:02] <ba7888b72413a16a> but it
won't bind
L67[02:42:21] <ba7888b72413a16a> oh
wat
L68[02:42:26] <ba7888b72413a16a> it just
suddenly worked
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L72[03:10:38] <ba7888b72413a16a> I forgot
what the deal is with server racks and components is
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L75[03:10:46] <ba7888b72413a16a> can I have
a single cable coming out of a server rack
L76[03:10:48] <everyone> hello
L77[03:10:51] <ba7888b72413a16a> with 256
components attached
L78[03:11:31] <Forecaster>
probably
<Forecaster>
probablyL79[03:11:58] <ba7888b72413a16a> (that is,
maximize the amount of components coming out of each server, and
have 4 servers)
L80[03:15:01] <Forecaster>
sure
<Forecaster>
sureL81[03:16:35] <logan2611>
Make a base that is nothing but RAIDs and have those software
raided together
<logan2611>
Make a base that is nothing but RAIDs and have those software
raided togetherL82[03:17:06] <ba7888b72413a16a> and the
terminal server broke again
L83[03:19:01] <ba7888b72413a16a> just shows
a blank screen
L84[03:19:08] <ba7888b72413a16a> but is
bound to the terminal server
L85[03:19:26] <Inari> https://twitter.com/rrin_reen/status/1019854689955823616
L86[03:19:26] <MichiBot> Thu Jul 19
03:01:20 CDT 2018 @rrin_reen: lesbiangel
L87[03:20:22] <ba7888b72413a16a> really not
sure what to do now
L88[03:20:37] <ba7888b72413a16a> the server
is definitely on
L89[03:21:03] <Izaya> you have to be a
special kind of monster to not include a windowed borderless
mode
L90[03:21:07] <Forecaster>
does it have a gpu?
<Forecaster>
does it have a gpu?L91[03:21:11] <ba7888b72413a16a> it
does
L92[03:21:16] <ba7888b72413a16a> tier
2
L93[03:22:31] <ba7888b72413a16a> oh, it
does have to be linked
L94[03:24:50] <Forecaster>
well yeah
<Forecaster>
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L97[03:41:18] <ba7888b72413a16a> btw, is
there an ideal way to edit files with an external text editor
L98[03:41:26] <ba7888b72413a16a> if I just
edit the files directly from the game save
L99[03:41:35] <ba7888b72413a16a> I have to
reinsert the hard drive every time I do it
L100[03:42:09] <fingercomp> in your
OpenComputers configuration file, set bufferChanges to false
L101[03:42:37] <ba7888b72413a16a> ok, will
try that
L102[03:50:45] <logan2611>
i think restarting the computer works too
<logan2611>
i think restarting the computer works tooL103[03:52:07] <Forecaster>
yeah but it's not really any better than removing the harddrive
:P
<Forecaster>
yeah but it's not really any better than removing the harddrive
:PL104[03:54:43] <ba7888b72413a16a>
restarting it without removing the hard drive won't do it
L105[03:55:48] <Forecaster>
it's worked for me
<Forecaster>
it's worked for meL106[03:56:05] <ba7888b72413a16a> didn't
work in the past
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L113[06:42:24] <Forecaster>
kitten~
<Forecaster>
kitten~L114[06:42:40] <Forecaster>
%loot
<Forecaster>
%lootL115[06:42:40] <MichiBot> Forecaster: You
get a loot box! It contains a Shiny Constanze's stanbot!
(10%)
L116[06:42:51] <Vexatos> oh no not the
shiny Stanbot
L117[06:43:09] <Forecaster>
nobody's gotten the rarest level yet
<Forecaster>
nobody's gotten the rarest level yetL118[06:44:34] <Vexatos> %loot
L119[06:44:35] <MichiBot> Vexatos: You get
a loot box! It contains a 20ft pole.
L120[06:45:28] <Forecaster>
only a 5% chance
<Forecaster>
only a 5% chanceL121[07:34:40] <Vexatos> Hey
@Forecaster
L122[07:34:44] <Vexatos> Just a
question
L123[07:34:57] <Vexatos> Are there going
to be new EtG episodes, now that the big update is out? :U
L124[07:35:33] <Vexatos> Version 2.0.0
D:
L125[07:36:46] <Vexatos> >Removed
locked shops
L126[07:36:48] <Vexatos> best update
ever
L127[07:42:34] <Forecaster>
I didn't know it'd come out
<Forecaster>
I didn't know it'd come outL128[07:42:47] <Forecaster>
I'm at work, not much time for gungeons
<Forecaster>
I'm at work, not much time for gungeonsL129[07:44:43] <Forecaster>
it hasn't appeared on steam yet
<Forecaster>
it hasn't appeared on steam yetL130[07:45:37] <Izaya> version
2.0.0?
L131[07:47:38] <Forecaster>
Advanced Gungeons and Draguns is supposed to release in just over 2
hours
<Forecaster>
Advanced Gungeons and Draguns is supposed to release in just over 2
hoursL132[07:48:01] <Vexatos> it has, like, new
all the things
L133[07:48:05] <Izaya> kek nice
L134[07:48:08] <Vexatos> You can dodge
over tables!!!!!
L135[07:48:21] <Vexatos> (if they are
still standing)
L136[07:49:29] <Forecaster>
ooh, teleporters in the end-elevator room
<Forecaster>
ooh, teleporters in the end-elevator roomL137[07:49:30] <Forecaster>
nice
<Forecaster>
niceL138[07:50:15] <Forecaster>
I haven't looked at this (and will ignore most of this article
because spoilers)
<Forecaster>
I haven't looked at this (and will ignore most of this article
because spoilers)L139[07:52:30] <Forecaster>
ooh
<Forecaster>
oohL140[07:52:36] <Forecaster>
there's a new secret area as well
<Forecaster>
there's a new secret area as wellL141[07:59:52] <Vexatos> and new
bosses!
L142[08:00:03] <Vexatos> new minibosses,
rather
L143[08:43:22] <Inari> So many games with
great trailer soundtrack lately :P (well at least two, Satisfactory
and Exapunks)
L144[08:46:48] <Forecaster>
oh, a new zachtronics game
<Forecaster>
oh, a new zachtronics gameL145[08:48:50] <Vexatos> @Forecaster
spoiler: It features coding to solve problems
L146[08:49:05] <Forecaster>
ohno D:
<Forecaster>
ohno D:L147[08:49:07] <Vexatos> yea
L148[08:49:09] <Forecaster>
I'm allergic to coding
<Forecaster>
I'm allergic to codingL149[08:49:10] <Vexatos> didn't expect
that, did you
L150[08:49:44] <AmandaC> What kind of
idiot would play a game about coding?!
L151[08:49:55] <Vexatos> I never played
such a game
L152[08:51:58] <Inari> Oh neat, I didn't
realize Zachtronics gave a talk in 2017
L153[08:52:13] <Inari> To be fair, not all
Zachtronics games had coding
L154[08:52:13] <Inari> ;)
L155[08:54:20] <Inari> https://twitter.com/archillect/status/1019942473781731328
L156[08:54:20] <MichiBot> Thu Jul 19
08:50:10 CDT 2018 @archillect: https://t.co/i9GEWADng9
L157[08:54:31] <Inari> Forecaster: 2
days!
L158[08:57:22] <Forecaster>
2 days!
<Forecaster>
2 days!L159[08:58:53] <AmandaC> 1-5 days!
L160[08:58:59] <Inari> Uhhh
L161[08:59:04] <Forecaster>
one million days!
<Forecaster>
one million days!L162[08:59:05] <Inari> Zach reminds me of
someone
L163[08:59:10] <Inari> But I can't place
who
L164[08:59:20] <Inari> Oh wait
L165[08:59:25] <Inari> Not Zach, the
annoucner guy I guess
L166[09:00:35] <Forecaster>
hm, my tabs are growing rampant again...
<Forecaster>
hm, my tabs are growing rampant again...L167[09:00:42] <Forecaster>
I need to do some gardening when I get home
<Forecaster>
I need to do some gardening when I get homeL168[09:04:06] <Vexatos> Get the
tabicide!
L169[09:06:05] <Inari> My tabs are having
a steady slow growth
L170[09:06:18] <Inari> 145. I cut them
down to about 100 from about 940 a few weeks ago
L171[09:06:41] <Inari> Though thats
Firefox. Vivaldi has another 105 tabs
L172[09:07:13] *
AmandaC has 2 tasb
L173[09:07:30] <Inari> %inv add AmandaC's
tabs
L174[09:07:30] *
MichiBot summons 'AmandaC's tabs' and adds to her inventory. This
seems very sturdy.
L175[09:07:51] <Forecaster>
I have 95 in chrome and about 60 in Firefox
<Forecaster>
I have 95 in chrome and about 60 in FirefoxL176[09:07:54] <Forecaster>
I thikn
<Forecaster>
I thiknL177[09:07:56] <Forecaster>
I think [Edited]
<Forecaster>
I think [Edited]L178[09:08:30] <Inari> Glad to see I'm not
the only one usign two browsers or having many tabs
L179[09:08:31] <Inari> :P
L180[09:08:56] <AmandaC> I think my
phone's got 5-6 tabs
L181[09:10:01] <Inari> I neverr really use
tabs on mobile. So generally the only time I get tabs there is when
stuff I click opens in a new tab for some nondescript reason
L182[09:12:15] <Forecaster>
nondescript reasons are the best reasons
<Forecaster>
nondescript reasons are the best reasonsL183[09:12:20] <Forecaster>
in fact
<Forecaster>
in factL184[09:12:26] <Forecaster>
%inv add nondescript reasons
<Forecaster>
%inv add nondescript reasonsL185[09:12:26] *
MichiBot summons 'nondescript reasons' and adds to her inventory. I
could get some good swings in with this.
L186[09:13:03] <AmandaC> %give MichiBot
nodescript reasons
L187[09:13:03] *
MichiBot accepts nodescript reasons and adds it to her
inventory
L188[09:13:24] <Forecaster>
noscript reasons
<Forecaster>
noscript reasonsL189[09:13:27] <AmandaC> ( I misread it as
nodescript, as in node script )
L190[09:13:40] <Izaya> "You're using
tabs wrong"
L191[09:14:56] <Inari> "I thhought,
how could you sell Infiminer, right? How could you sell a game?
That would never make money"
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L193[09:21:37] <Inari> %pet AmandaC
L194[09:21:38] *
MichiBot brushes AmandaC with AmandaC's meowstress. 4 health
gained! AmandaC's meowstress flies up into space and collides with
a satellite.
L195[09:22:25] <AmandaC> Wait, come back!
D:
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L198[09:28:26] <Forecaster>
%loot
<Forecaster>
%lootL199[09:28:26] <MichiBot> Forecaster: You
get a loot box! It contains a broken .mp6.
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L210[12:06:23] <Forecaster>
okay...
<Forecaster>
okay...L211[12:06:44] <Forecaster>
so EtG now insists on playing on the left-most monitor instead of
the middle primary one...
<Forecaster>
so EtG now insists on playing on the left-most monitor instead of
the middle primary one...L212[12:06:46] <Forecaster>
that's annoying
<Forecaster>
that's annoyingL213[12:07:01] <Forecaster>
and the monitor select option in the settings appear to be
broken
<Forecaster>
and the monitor select option in the settings appear to be
brokenL214[12:08:43] <Forecaster>
okay there we go
<Forecaster>
okay there we goL215[12:09:07] <AmandaC> EtG?
L216[12:09:31] <Forecaster>
Eat the Goblins
<Forecaster>
Eat the GoblinsL217[12:13:20] <Vexatos> Extremely
Terrifying Gardening
L218[12:27:04] <gamax92> design an
architecture with asymmetric byte order
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L222[13:32:28] <Molinko> Is
there a mod with working bundled redstone cable in 1.12.2??
<Molinko> Is
there a mod with working bundled redstone cable in 1.12.2??L223[13:32:45] <Molinko>
Any tips appreciated
<Molinko>
Any tips appreciatedL224[13:32:59] <Molinko>
Any tips are appreciated [Edited]
<Molinko>
Any tips are appreciated [Edited]L225[13:33:04] <everyone> Try https://minecraft.curseforge.com/projects/simplelogic-wires
L226[13:33:08] <everyone> (shameless
self-promotion)
L227[13:46:06] <FR^2> isn't that
similar/the same as those "red alloy wires"?
L228[13:48:26] <asie> ?
L229[13:49:49] <Forecaster>
%loot
<Forecaster>
%lootL230[13:49:49] <MichiBot> Forecaster: You
get a loot box! It contains a cloudy purple potion.
L231[13:57:27] <logan2611>
Theres also bluepower
<logan2611>
Theres also bluepowerL232[13:57:31] <logan2611>
just saying
<logan2611>
just sayingL233[13:58:33] <gamax92> I thought
bluepower was dead/trash/both
L234[13:58:46] <everyone> BluePower? On
which Minecraft version?
L235[13:58:51] <everyone> Probably not any
of the good ones.
L236[13:58:53] <everyone> : ^ )
L237[14:02:08] <gamax92> I remember one of
the devs getting mad at me over the weapon textures that not only
don't resemble the existing minecraft style but wern't even
consistent by themself
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L239[14:06:43] <Molinko>
thanks for the tips. I'll give them a shot
<Molinko>
thanks for the tips. I'll give them a shotL240[14:06:53] <Tangent> *reappears*
L241[14:08:10] <logan2611>
Blue Power is still very alive
<logan2611>
Blue Power is still very aliveL242[14:08:12] <logan2611>
and works well
<logan2611>
and works wellL243[14:08:28] <logan2611>
ok its only kind of alive
<logan2611>
ok its only kind of aliveL244[14:09:03] <logan2611>
wait no thats ProjectRed
<logan2611>
wait no thats ProjectRedL245[14:09:51] <logan2611>
wait no thats ProjectRed I was thinking of [Edited]
<logan2611>
wait no thats ProjectRed I was thinking of [Edited]L246[14:11:19] <everyone> P:Red is a
heavyweight IMO
L247[14:11:21] <everyone> but, again,
self-promotion
L248[14:11:24] <everyone> i am
biased
L249[14:15:29] <Tangent> I think I asked
this before and was told to go look at the source code...but how
does OC generate UUIDs?
L250[14:15:44] <Tangent> Is there someone
here I can ask directly?
L251[14:15:49] <AmandaC> which part of
OC?
L252[14:16:57] <Molinko>
Tangent: Are you talking about uuids in OpenOS?
<Molinko>
Tangent: Are you talking about uuids in OpenOS?L253[14:17:12] <Tangent> UUIDs for device
addresses.
L254[14:17:33] <AmandaC> the java side
probably uses the constructor in the java class, OpenOS does
https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/blob/master-MC1.7.10/src/main/resources/assets/opencomputers/loot/openos/lib/uuid.lua#L4-L28
this instead
L255[14:17:41] <Tangent> Although I would
like to know if OpenOS uses the same method or not.
L256[14:18:22] <Tangent> Yea, I figured
OpenOS would just be using math.random
L257[14:18:24] <AmandaC> The OpenOS method
may or may now be generating "proper" UUIDs, but it's
good enough for OC's purposes
L258[14:18:45] <Tangent> No, it definitely
is generating proper UUIDs
L259[14:19:10] <gamax92> and vcomponent
does https://github.com/OpenPrograms/gamax92-Programs/blob/master/vcomponent/vcomponent.lua#L185-L193
this because it existed before the uuid library was around
L260[14:19:23] <Tangent> A UUID generation
method is proper regardless of its chances of generating a
collision as long as it follows the correct format.
L261[14:19:52] <AmandaC> In other news:
Discovered why koreader doesn't want to work from a dev
environment, turns out it's hard-coded to look in .../lua/5.1 --
luarocks is using lua 5.3 on my machine
L262[14:20:31] <Inari> %lua function
genUUID() return "00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000"
end
L263[14:20:40] <Inari> %lua
print(genUUID())
L264[14:20:40] <MichiBot>
00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000
L265[14:20:42] <Inari> \o/
L266[14:21:06] <Tangent> I'm not so up on
Java, or Scala, where should I go looking for this in OC's
source?
L267[14:21:10] <Tangent> Like, just, any
tips?
L268[14:21:14] <Tangent> Or just dig until
I find it xD
L269[14:21:38] <AmandaC> I'm pretty sure
UUID is a jvm-defined class, so it'd not be inside the OC
source.
L270[14:22:01] <gamax92> %lua
genUUID()
L271[14:22:01] <MichiBot>
d764c8cc-e932-45c4-918d-7aa05d83f3ea
L272[14:22:05] <AmandaC> %lua uhm
genUUID()
L273[14:22:05] <MichiBot> main:1: syntax
error near 'genUUID'
L274[14:22:11] <AmandaC> %lua
uhm(genUUID())
L275[14:22:11] <MichiBot>
2abb77224499b9--004033e3-e4-22ccdd--88a86666--2-1211b1ffff33778833dd6d
L276[14:22:31] <Inari> Gamax hacked my
function
L277[14:22:31] <Inari> :<
L278[14:22:43] <gamax92> did NAUGHT
L279[14:23:05] <Inari> How'd it reutnr
anything but 0 then
L280[14:23:06] <Inari> :f
L281[14:23:06] <Tangent> AmandaC, well,
even if so, I would find where OC uses it.
L282[14:23:17] <AmandaC> %sel genUUID = ()
-> "00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000"
L283[14:23:17] <MichiBot> main:1:
<name> expected near '214'
L284[14:23:23] <Tangent> Inari, was
math.random initialized? :P
L285[14:23:31] <Inari> ?
L286[14:23:39] <Inari> Theres no
math.random
L287[14:23:39] <gamax92> This is why
nobody uses selene
L288[14:23:44] <Tangent> Which brings me
to another question, how does OpenOS seed the random
generator?
L289[14:23:56] <Tangent> Inari, I wasn't
paying that close of attention so shhh >.>
L290[14:24:02] <AmandaC> OC does it, using
the system clock
L291[14:24:05] <Tangent> And by
initialized, I meant, seeded.
L292[14:24:19] <Inari> Being seeded is
pretty lewd
L293[14:24:28] <Tangent> System clock as
in the server running MC or as in world time the way OC exposes it
through lua?
L294[14:24:34] <Tangent> I'd love to be
seeded
L295[14:24:38] <AmandaC> Server running OC
I'd assume
L296[14:25:14] <gamax92> also here is
plan9k's https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/blob/917befcd0e8e256bc52abb038f86bc04f236645a/src/main/resources/assets/opencomputers/loot/plan9k/lib/modules/base/10_procfs.lua#L9-L15
L297[14:25:18] <gamax92> uhh
L298[14:25:20] <gamax92> oops big
url
L299[14:27:29] <Tangent> So looks like as
long as OC is using Java's UUID generator and is generating v4
UUIDs, it should be collision resistant even beyond OC's
needs
L300[14:27:33] <Inari>
java.util.UUID.randomUUID().toString
L301[14:27:35] <Inari> appurently
L302[14:28:32] <gamax92> 122 bit
collision
L303[14:30:04] <Tangent> Chance of a
collision with UUIDs is based on how they're generated, not the bit
length.
L304[14:30:23] <Tangent> The bit length is
sufficient for ALL purposes if I remember correctly
L305[14:30:51] <AmandaC> since it's a
java.* class, it'd depend on the implementation of the JVM.
L306[14:31:05] <AmandaC> oracle java might
do it different than openjdk java
L307[14:31:30] <Tangent> True, Java
declares it is based on SecureRandom, which I would assume is using
cryptographically secure random number generation.
L308[14:31:48] <Tangent> But I could be
assuming more forethought than there is..
L309[14:31:59] <Tangent> generally,
something named SecureRandom I would assume actually is
secure
L310[14:32:42] <Tangent> I found the bit
about how ridiculously difficult it is to generate collisions for
v4 UUIDs theoretically
L311[14:32:52] <gamax92> I mean ... bit
length matters too
L312[14:32:58] <Tangent> For a one in a
billion chance of collision, you need 103 trillion UUIDs
L313[14:33:02] <Inari> Tangent: all
purposes? :o
L314[14:33:29] <Tangent> gamax92, What I
mean is that a bit length of 122 bits is sufficient for anything
humanity is likely to ever come up with.
L315[14:33:41] <Tangent> The true problem
is in implementation because in theory it is already solved
L316[14:34:17] <Inari> So i can use it to
give all of my 2^16384 bitfields a UUID!
L317[14:34:39] <Inari> That'd be pretty
useful
L318[14:34:40] <Inari> :f
L319[14:34:43] <gamax92> Uhh, Inari.
L320[14:35:19] <Tangent> Inari, die.
L321[14:35:19] <Tangent> xD
L322[14:35:22] <gamax92> ^
L323[14:35:26] <Inari> Hey
L324[14:35:36] <Inari> Thats rude
L325[14:35:39] <Inari> It's an actaul
issue I have
L326[14:35:41] <gamax92> 2^16384 is
https://pastebin.com/x0VYZA5x
L327[14:36:28] <Tangent> At least it isn't
a Googol
L328[14:36:28] <Inari> And thats the low
estimate
L329[14:36:50] <Tangent> Inari, how the
fuck could you possibly have that many bitfields or use for all of
them?
L330[14:36:51] <Tangent> xD
L331[14:36:59] <gamax92> you can give all
of them a UUID but they won't all be unique
L332[14:37:08] <Tangent> For that matter,
how the fuck could all alien species in existence have use for that
many?
L333[14:37:21] <Inari> Something like
2^80000 would be nicer, but thats 5.9 times more digits :P
L334[14:37:33] <Tangent> Just.. I'm gonna
go die now, okay?
L335[14:38:56] <Inari> Haha
L336[14:39:25] <Inari> Well basically it's
all the numbers between 0 and 2^16384, and I need a nice labelling
system to identify any one of them relatively easily I guess
L337[14:42:12] <gamax92> oh oops, I forgot
a message type to start a server, only have one for
connecting
L338[14:45:28] <gamax92> I need to
implement the rest of the GUI ;_;
L339[14:47:37] <gamax92> All I got is a
File menu with a Quit button
L340[14:47:40] <AmandaC> gamax92: whatchya
working on, ooc?
L341[14:49:28] <Inari> %pet AmandaC
L342[14:49:28] *
MichiBot brushes AmandaC with more cowbell. 8 health
gained!
L343[14:49:42] <gamax92> a networking
extension to an application
L344[14:50:05] <Inari> I need to work more
on my Elm project, but recursion is hard to work with :f
L345[14:50:23] <Inari> Esp. when you run
into "too mcuh recursion" errors but you don't know if
its due to infinite reucrsion bugs or not
L346[14:50:37] <gamax92> Everything in the
GUI exists but, I don't have anything in the menu bar and also I
think the user list in GTK is missing the player ID slot
L347[14:50:49] <gamax92> it is
L348[14:51:00] <Inari> gamax92: What
application though?
L349[14:52:10] <gamax92> The application,
you know
L350[14:54:38] <Brisingr
Aerowing> I just found out that Grian is now a member of the
Hermitcraft server. This is going to be a cool season.
<Brisingr
Aerowing> I just found out that Grian is now a member of the
Hermitcraft server. This is going to be a cool season.L351[14:58:38] <Inari> Who's Grian
L352[15:08:30] <AmandaC> %choose play or
read
L353[15:08:31] <MichiBot> AmandaC:
play
L354[15:18:36] <payonel> o/
L355[15:22:29] <gamax92> %choose payonel
or squirrel
L356[15:22:30] <MichiBot> gamax92:
squirrel
L357[15:22:33] <gamax92> squirrel
L358[16:03:23] <Inari> %inv addhttps://i.imgur.com/5VFyfLv.jpg
L359[16:03:23] <MichiBot> Inari: Unknown
sub-command 'addhttps://i.imgur.com/5VFyfLv.jpg' (Try:
list, create (add), remove (rem, del), preserve (pre), unpreserve
(unpre), count, favourite (fav))
L360[16:03:27] <Inari> Oops
L361[16:03:30] <Inari> Just https://i.imgur.com/5VFyfLv.jpg
L362[16:03:56] <Brisingr
Aerowing> @Inari Probably one of the best MC builders there
is.
<Brisingr
Aerowing> @Inari Probably one of the best MC builders there
is.L364[16:05:16] <Inari> I need to /nick
myself NotInari on Discord
L365[16:05:17] <Inari> :p
L366[16:05:28] <NotInari>
??
<NotInari>
??L367[16:05:40] <Kleadron>
@YesInari
<Kleadron>
@YesInariL368[16:05:44] <Kleadron>
:)))))
<Kleadron>
:)))))L369[16:05:56] <MGR>
Heh
<MGR>
HehL370[16:11:01]
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L373[16:37:49] <Z0idburg>
You know I asked gamax92 about vcomponent a ways back
<Z0idburg>
You know I asked gamax92 about vcomponent a ways backL374[16:37:52] <Z0idburg>
and forgot to check back on it XD
<Z0idburg>
and forgot to check back on it XDL375[16:39:07] <gamax92> ?
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L379[17:05:08] <Forecaster>
woop, recorded new EtG episode with the update
<Forecaster>
woop, recorded new EtG episode with the updateL380[17:05:12] <Forecaster>
was interesting...
<Forecaster>
was interesting...L381[17:09:30] <AmandaC> %give MichiBot a
jar of non-baryon matter
L382[17:09:30] *
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L385[17:15:42] <everyone> https://charset.asie.pl/2018/07/20/charset-052.html
L386[17:16:25] <Inari> Oh hey, everyone is
asie
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L389[17:17:39] <Forecaster>
I'm asie, you're asie, everyone is asie!
<Forecaster>
I'm asie, you're asie, everyone is asie!L390[17:19:47] <Z0idburg>
wut
<Z0idburg>
wutL391[17:19:54] <Z0idburg>
forecaster is not asie
<Z0idburg>
forecaster is not asieL392[17:24:00] <AmandaC> everyone is asie,
but is asie everyone?
L393[18:00:05] <Tangent> GODDAMMIT
L394[18:00:08] <Tangent> NON
BARYONIC
L395[18:00:13] <Tangent> NOT JUST NON
BARYON
L396[18:00:14] <Tangent> WHY
L397[18:00:20] *
Tangent is mad for no good reason
L398[18:04:06] <AmandaC> What do I look
like, a Physicist?
L399[18:04:37] <AmandaC> %inv remove a jar
of non-baryon matter
L400[18:04:38] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Removed
item from inventory
L401[18:05:01] <AmandaC> %give MichiBot a
jar of non-baryonic matter
L402[18:05:01] *
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L404[18:52:55] <AmandaC> %choose read more
or don't
L405[18:52:55] <MichiBot> AmandaC: read
more
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L418[19:23:20] <Kodos> Oh,
neat, 1.13 dropped
<Kodos> Oh,
neat, 1.13 droppedL419[19:24:05] <logan2611>
eww
<logan2611>
ewwL420[19:32:27] <Kleadron>
no u
<Kleadron>
no uL421[19:32:53] <Kleadron> I
wonder when the first version of forge for 1.13 will drop
<Kleadron> I
wonder when the first version of forge for 1.13 will dropL422[19:38:33] <logan2611>
1.13 Patch Nodes:
<logan2611>
1.13 Patch Nodes:L423[19:38:34] <logan2611>
Modding is illegal unless you pay the $19.99 Modding DLC
<logan2611>
Modding is illegal unless you pay the $19.99 Modding DLCL424[19:38:49] <logan2611>
wait I shouldn't give them ideas
<logan2611>
wait I shouldn't give them ideasL425[19:47:46] ⇦
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L426[19:54:40] <AmandaC> You know, with
the Oracle Vs. Google ruling, it's not that unreal.
L427[19:55:34] <AmandaC> Supreme Court
sided with Oracle, it's still being worked out, but AIUI the
understanding now is that it's possible to copyright an API, and
sue implementers
L428[19:56:25] <CompanionCube> isn't that
only in the US though
L429[19:56:51] <AmandaC> Copyright law is
upheld with international trieties, it'll depend on how that mess
gets sorted, too
L430[19:57:08] <CompanionCube> indeed, but
the specific precedent only applies in the US
L431[19:57:13] <AmandaC> true
L432[19:57:15] <CompanionCube> everywhere
else can go ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L433[19:58:04] <CompanionCube> (and they
should, because fuck copyrighted APIs and fuck Oracle. Especially
fuck oracle.)
L434[19:58:32] *
AmandaC copyrights HTTP
L435[19:58:46] *
AmandaC sues everyone under the sun, including toaster
manufacturers
L436[19:58:52] <CompanionCube> pretty sure
the W3C has that
L437[19:59:19] <CompanionCube> as much fun
as it would be to see the web implode in an inane fireball
L438[19:59:44] <AmandaC> some would argue
it's already imploding in an inane fireball
L439[20:00:06] <Corded> *
<logan2611> copyrights JS
L440[20:00:25] <CompanionCube> too
late
L441[20:00:28] <AmandaC> %choose now or
later
L442[20:00:28] <MichiBot> AmandaC:
later
L443[20:00:30] <CompanionCube> already
done by ECMA.
L444[20:00:48] <Corded> *
<logan2611> copyrights C
L445[20:00:49] <AmandaC> "Wanting to
raise awareness for skin deises, JavaScript was renamed
ECMAScript"
L446[20:01:05] *
AmandaC speel gud
L447[20:01:38] <CompanionCube> C's
an
L448[20:01:43] <CompanionCube> C's an ANSI
standard, no luck.
L449[20:01:56] <CompanionCube>
(ANSI/ISO)
L450[20:02:26] *
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L452[20:08:30] <logan2611>
well hey if I can copyright a word
<logan2611>
well hey if I can copyright a wordL453[20:08:35] <logan2611>
the sky's the limit
<logan2611>
the sky's the limitL454[20:10:23] ⇦
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L455[20:29:41] <AmandaC> I mean, you
can't, so...
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L458[20:43:16] <Kleadron>
What are you guys talking about
<Kleadron>
What are you guys talking aboutL459[20:44:54] <Ristellise>
@ everyone is @ here
<Ristellise>
@ everyone is @ hereL460[20:45:11] <Ristellise>
*Ristellise has been banned from the server*
<Ristellise>
*Ristellise has been banned from the server*L461[20:45:54] <Kleadron>
the irc plebs wont get your joke
<Kleadron>
the irc plebs wont get your jokeL462[20:46:43] <Izaya> you mean the IRC
masterrace won't get obnoxiously pinged?
L463[20:46:43] *
Izaya laughs manically
L464[21:15:39] <logan2611>
I can fix that
<logan2611>
I can fix thatL465[21:20:55] <AmandaC> Izaya! You live
in the future, will my e-reader ship tomorrow?
L466[21:21:38] <Izaya> outlook not so
good
L467[21:21:51] <AmandaC> Darn
L468[21:22:13] <AmandaC> I discovered
something magical about it, too
L469[21:22:25] <Izaya> Oh?
L470[21:22:44] <AmandaC> https://github.com/dennwc/inkview/blob/master/README.md
I can write apps for it using my favorite language
L471[21:23:07] <Izaya> oooooo
L472[21:23:27] <Izaya> I'm iffy about go
but there's plenty of worse choices and if you can happily write
programs for it ... :D
L473[21:25:15] <AmandaC> I've got several
things in "production" that is written in go
L474[21:25:32] <Izaya> I mean, I'm using
gitea which is 90% go and it's fine
L475[21:25:46] <AmandaC>
Http://kittiesdb.app 's back end is 100% go
L476[21:26:17] <AmandaC> Along with the
telegram and discord bots for it
L477[21:26:29] <Izaya> I'd probably use
rust over go myself but \o/
L478[21:27:09] <AmandaC> I picked up go
first, and rust is just to alien from the casual view of it I have
at this point
L479[21:27:30] <Izaya> also uh
L480[21:27:35] <Izaya> all I'm getting is
"Loading..."
L481[21:27:47] <AmandaC> I tired the rust
koans type thing but kept getting confused by they're heavy use of
compsci terms
L482[21:27:55] <AmandaC> Enable js
L483[21:28:03] <AmandaC> Sorry, it's one
of those apps
L484[21:28:23] <Izaya> it is enabled
L485[21:28:28] <AmandaC> Uh
L486[21:28:38] <AmandaC> It may have
exploded then
L487[21:28:51] <Izaya> I'm running uBO and
AdNauseaum though
L488[21:29:13] <AmandaC> Hrm
L489[21:29:41] <Izaya> works in qupzilla
on haiku
L490[21:29:42] <AmandaC> might be one of
the ad blockers https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/r0rxgzsq/Screenshot_20180719-222858.png
L491[21:29:49] <Izaya> just my
config
L492[21:30:19] <Izaya> one of these is not
like the others
L493[21:31:16] <AmandaC> I have zero plans
to ad ads though, at most Google analytics, so don't worry about
whitelisting it if you ever go back
L494[21:31:22] <AmandaC> Add*
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L497[21:33:18] <AmandaC> Uh
L498[21:33:37] <AmandaC> TIL the search
page doesn't scroll on mobile
L499[21:34:04] <AmandaC> Well, that's what
the snackbar on load is for
L500[21:34:28] <AmandaC> I should find
some energy to work on that some more
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L503[22:37:41] <ba7888b72413a16a> still
having problems with the terminal server
L504[22:38:09] <ba7888b72413a16a> the
screen is frozen at a single point, even when the server is
off
L505[22:38:45] <logan2611>
weird
<logan2611>
weirdL506[22:39:08] <logan2611>
could always try some form of ssh
<logan2611>
could always try some form of sshL507[22:39:44] <ba7888b72413a16a>
wait...
L508[22:39:48] <ba7888b72413a16a> is there
a program
L509[22:39:50] <ba7888b72413a16a> that I
could use
L510[22:39:57] <ba7888b72413a16a> that
could let me ssh into OC from the real world
L511[22:40:07] <ba7888b72413a16a> that
would be a real alternative to this buggy mess
L512[22:41:54] <logan2611>
idk about real world but I know tablet/other computer to server
works
<logan2611>
idk about real world but I know tablet/other computer to server
worksL513[22:45:00] <ba7888b72413a16a>
destroying the server, creating an entirely new one with a new hard
drive, new terminal server, new terminal
L514[22:45:07] <ba7888b72413a16a> and it's
still frozen
L515[22:45:31] <ba7888b72413a16a> guessing
my only option is to restart the whole game
L516[23:02:46] <ba7888b72413a16a> that
seemed to fix it
L517[23:03:08] <ba7888b72413a16a> btw,
wondering if there's any way to copy the address of an OC item to
the clipboard
L518[23:17:51] <Kodos> For
in-world stuff, I think analyzing it does that
<Kodos> For
in-world stuff, I think analyzing it does thatL519[23:20:09] <ba7888b72413a16a> yeah, no
analyzing items
L520[23:21:28] <logan2611>
?
<logan2611>
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L522[23:32:41] <Kodos> What
are you trying to get the address of?
<Kodos> What
are you trying to get the address of?L523[23:36:13] <ba7888b72413a16a> network
card
L524[23:36:32] <ba7888b72413a16a> my
workaround was to write it to a file in a lua repl
L525[23:36:39] <ba7888b72413a16a> which is
a horrible workaround
L526[23:37:06] <Kodos>
Guessing you're copying it to set up networking between 2 or more
computers?
<Kodos>
Guessing you're copying it to set up networking between 2 or more
computers?L527[23:37:15] <ba7888b72413a16a>
yeah
L528[23:37:34] <ba7888b72413a16a> but
regardless of use... analyzing items probably should be a
thing
L529[23:40:52] <Kodos>
Maybe, but if you're only needing it for networking, you should
think about doing some sort of handshake lib
<Kodos>
Maybe, but if you're only needing it for networking, you should
think about doing some sort of handshake libL530[23:42:10] <ba7888b72413a16a> I don't
see why I wouldn't just hard code it
L531[23:42:22] <ba7888b72413a16a> or at
least, put it in a config file for the program
L532[23:42:43] <ba7888b72413a16a>
minecraft bases can't get severe technical debt, can they??
L533[23:43:08] <gamax92> if a battery was
only a centimeter tall how many A's would it have
L534[23:52:38] <ba7888b72413a16a> what am
I saying, all my minecraft bases have technical debt
L535[23:53:51] <Izaya> 1cm long or 1cm
wide?
L536[23:54:01] <ba7888b72413a16a> though
this time I'm trying to avoid that...
L537[23:54:14] <gamax92> just make a text
renderer and slap that in a column that you slap into a tree,
twice, then make a new store and put that in the tree too
L538[23:54:25] <gamax92> GTK
L539[23:54:42] <ba7888b72413a16a> I've put
16 rooms at y=24 in a flat bedrock world
L540[23:55:01] <ba7888b72413a16a> and then
2 concentric rings below that, at y=6 and y=13
L541[23:55:02] <gamax92> Windows ... I
don't really have much to say about it yet my list view is
broken
L542[23:55:13] <ba7888b72413a16a> right in
the center, an AE system with a ridiculous number of channels
L543[23:55:19] <gamax92> Izaya: 1cm
long
L544[23:55:28] <Izaya> AAAAAAAAAA
L545[23:55:38] <gamax92> thanks fam
L546[23:55:47] <Izaya> [citation
needed]
L547[23:56:59] <gamax92> but yeah in
windows my list view column has minimal size by default so all of
the text doesn't show up, uhh and I don't know how to fix.
L548[23:57:57] <gamax92> but I added in
all the menu entires to both GUIs so I can make those functional
now