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L2[00:49:52] <AngelOfDeath> can i do this or how do i do this local Safe = MaxHeat - 50%
L3[00:50:28] <RobotPigeon> @AngelOfDeath wouldn't that just be MaxHeat/2?
L4[00:50:31] <RobotPigeon> @AngelOfDeath wouldn't that just be `MaxHeat/2`? [Edited]
L5[00:51:03] <AngelOfDeath> sure if thats how its suppose to be ?
L6[00:51:38] <RobotPigeon> say for example your maxHeat was 10, and you took away 50% you would have 5,
L7[00:51:38] <RobotPigeon> divide 10 by 2 and you get 5
L8[00:53:21] <AngelOfDeath> very well sir/mam u have won my heart off to the next error
L9[01:16:22] <AngelOfDeath> https://pastebin.com/sCghGb9A
L10[01:16:40] <AngelOfDeath> line 34
L11[01:17:09] <AngelOfDeath> i dont know its shenanigans
L12[01:18:29] <AngelOfDeath> oh and i have a mk5 crater now fyi my bad
L13[01:18:52] <Forecaster> uh
L14[01:18:56] <Forecaster> what's the actual issue?
L15[01:19:42] <AngelOfDeath> its saying null at line 24
L16[01:20:27] <AngelOfDeath> and just errors out
L17[01:20:43] <AngelOfDeath> then it exploded
L18[01:23:08] <Forecaster> fixed indentation https://pastebin.com/5LyvVQsm
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L20[01:24:23] <Forecaster> I don't see any issues
L21[01:25:07] <AngelOfDeath> i need to re settup the computer and reactor and ill get the error
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L24[01:41:47] <Forecaster> %loot
L25[01:41:48] <MichiBot> Forecaster: You get a loot box! It contains a tiny fork.
L26[01:42:14] <AngelOfDeath> but whats the tiny fork for
L27[01:43:44] <Forecaster> eating tiny food, duh
L28[02:06:19] <AngelOfDeath> its saying line 24 attempt to call global 'Reactor_on' (a nil value);
L29[02:08:24] <AngelOfDeath> line 24 in function 'reactor_1Check' line 35 in fuction 'Reactor_On' line 41 in main chunk
L30[02:10:07] <AngelOfDeath> im off to sleep 3 am tired ill check chat in the morning
L31[02:22:52] <Forecaster> @AngelOfDeath try not using capital letters in your function names
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L36[04:10:17] <Inari> Boobp
L37[04:10:31] <Inari> AmandaC: Haha, well, you wanted to feel sad, no? :P
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L39[04:33:54] <Tangent> Allo.
L40[04:35:24] <Forecaster> oh, are we going on a tangent?!
L41[04:35:33] <Forecaster> let me get my whiteboard!
L42[04:36:56] <Tangent> I am always a Tangent.
L43[04:37:13] <Inari> %pet Tangent
L44[04:37:13] * MichiBot pets Tangent with Melon-pan. 11 health gained!
L45[04:37:17] <Tangent> Also gonna disappear as I connected from an in-game computer and I'm gonna install something else.
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L47[04:37:33] <Inari> That wasn't very tangenty
L48[04:38:12] <Corded> * <Forecaster> puts away whiteboard with a disappointed expression
L49[04:38:22] <Inari> %pet Forecaster
L50[04:38:22] * MichiBot pets Forecaster with Elite: Desolate. 8 health gained!
L51[04:38:24] <Inari> It's okay
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L53[04:38:29] <Tangent> *reappears*
L54[04:38:38] <Inari> Also, when is the 21st already
L55[04:38:38] <Inari> :P
L56[04:39:06] <Forecaster> %calc 21 - 12
L57[04:39:07] <MichiBot> Forecaster: 9
L58[04:39:12] <Forecaster> that many days!
L59[04:39:37] <Inari> %calc x+5=3
L60[04:40:00] <Forecaster> xD
L61[04:40:16] <Forecaster> it can only do simple arithmetic :P
L62[04:40:21] <Inari> :<
L63[04:40:30] <Inari> %wa x+5=3
L64[04:40:34] <Inari> Psh
L65[04:40:43] <Inari> Oh, it queries the result
L66[04:41:12] <Inari> %wa x+5=3
L67[04:41:29] <Inari> Guess you can't use that on Discord
L68[04:42:09] <Tangent> *has no idea what any of you are going on about&
L69[04:42:21] <Forecaster> don't worry about it
L70[04:42:25] <Forecaster> %hello
L71[04:42:25] <MichiBot> Forecaster: Hello! Welcome to #oc! The one and only opencomputers channel! Please ask your questions directly (dont ask to ask) and provide error/code examples! (Use pastebin.com if theyre more than one line!) Dont mind the random conversation you might have walked into.
L72[04:42:28] <Forecaster> :P
L73[04:42:59] <Inari> Why are all interesting games still Early Access
L74[04:43:01] <Tangent> Ah
L75[04:43:11] <Tangent> Because that's what makes them interesting.
L76[04:43:18] <Inari> Well, nah
L77[04:43:23] <Tangent> Once they realize they can't complete their dream, they aren't anymore.
L78[04:43:27] <Tangent> /sarcasm
L79[04:43:32] <Tangent> ./sarcasm
L80[04:43:43] <Tangent> oh whoops, lag, thought the first message didn't go through
L81[04:43:58] <Tangent> maybe I *shouldn't* be on IRC through a creative #oc :P
L82[04:44:24] <Forecaster> use webchat, proper irc client or discord instead :P
L83[04:44:50] <Tangent> Except...Discord to connect to IRC? wat
L84[04:45:27] <Forecaster> we have a discord server
L85[04:45:31] <Forecaster> I'm on discord
L86[04:45:48] <Forecaster> I'm also on IRC, but right now I'm talking through discord
L87[04:46:08] <Tangent> Ah, so there's a bot or somesuch that pipes messages between the two. Neat!
L88[04:46:10] <Tangent> :D
L89[04:46:19] <Forecaster> Corded is our discord <=> irc relay
L90[04:48:04] <Tangent> Is that openly available and how easy/difficult is it to set up?
L91[04:48:34] <Inari> https://twitter.com/CuteAnimeBot/status/1017340947305254912 cute
L92[04:48:35] <MichiBot> Thu Jul 12 04:32:37 CDT 2018 @CuteAnimeBot: https://t.co/eq71whAjw2
L93[04:49:22] <Forecaster> https://github.com/CaitlynMainer/Yuri
L94[04:50:05] <Forecaster> just build it with gradle
L95[04:50:28] <Forecaster> don't use the release, it's horrendously outdated
L96[04:51:28] <Tangent> Another disadvantage of chatting through MC like this, can't just copy paste or click links xD
L97[04:51:43] <Tangent> Someone recommend me a Linux/Windows IRC client plz
L98[04:51:49] <Inari> kvirc
L99[04:54:14] <Inari> I should probably update my kvirc
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L102[04:56:03] <Inari> There :3
L103[04:56:08] <Forecaster> did it explode?
L104[04:56:13] <Forecaster> are you here with explosions?
L105[04:56:14] <Inari> Apparently not
L106[04:56:16] <Forecaster> aw
L107[04:56:32] <Inari> Though all the nick colours changed xD Will have to get used to the new ones
L108[05:04:04] <Vexatos> I mean, if you use hexchat, you can use the bridgebot plugin we made to have Corded seamlessly integrate with other chat messages, too :3
L109[05:04:59] <Inari> You sure? Because thats rather complicated to do :p
L110[05:05:33] <Inari> In fact, I'm unsure if its possible
L111[05:06:21] <Vexatos> I mean I wrote half of that thing
L112[05:06:27] <Vexatos> So pretty sure it is
L113[05:07:00] <Inari> something> > meow > mm> Like what about htis kinda nick? With some > thrown into the message > somewhere> too
L114[05:07:14] <Vexatos> no clue
L115[05:07:31] <Vexatos> depends on how corded formats them
L116[05:07:47] <Inari> It doesn't really, it just throws them in ?
L117[05:07:54] <Vexatos> that's not my fault then :P
L118[05:08:14] <Inari> %blame Mimiru
L119[05:08:14] * MichiBot blames Mimiru for adding quantum decay to the inventory!
L120[05:08:32] <Vexatos> It alsp works with other formats in other channels
L121[05:09:00] <Vexatos> I am in 55 IRC channels or so, so I made sure it works with every discord, slack, gitter and matrix bot I see
L122[05:09:17] <Inari> Heh
L123[05:09:26] <Inari> I gotta fix up my Corded script for kvirc one of these days
L124[05:09:31] <Vexatos> it also has tab autocomplete for nicknames through the bot
L125[05:09:50] <Vexatos> provided the person has previously talked through the bot
L126[05:10:29] <Inari> Meow
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L128[05:11:41] <Inari> Hm
L129[05:12:00] <Inari> Oh it still works? I thought I broke it at some point
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L131[05:14:28] <Tangent> I had too much hot sauce.
L132[05:14:32] <Tangent> My face is melting.
L133[05:19:21] <Forecaster> http://tinyurl.com/ycqngokq
L134[05:19:33] <Forecaster> my irssi script doesn't handle that correctly apparently
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L136[05:21:54] <Inari> Yeah, I don't think it's really possible to handle it correctly
L137[05:22:01] <Inari> You can't go by last or first apperance of > or such
L138[05:26:10] <Inari> %pet Inari
L139[05:26:10] <MichiBot> Inari: Don't pet yourself in public.
L140[05:26:12] <Inari> :<
L141[05:26:32] <Lizzian> %pet Lizzian
L142[05:26:32] * MichiBot brushes Lizzian with the forbidden trope. 5 health gained!
L143[05:26:36] <Lizzian> ?
L144[05:26:37] <Inari> Cheating!
L145[05:26:41] <Lizzian> lol
L146[05:27:03] <Inari> %pet Inari
L147[05:27:03] * MichiBot brushes Inari with the eye of Nidhogg. 11 health gained!
L148[05:27:07] <Inari> Tehe
L149[05:29:54] <Tangent> But can you pet yourself..
L150[05:30:10] <Tangent> Oh.. I just noticed Inari already showed that..it..doesn't..
L151[05:30:40] <Inari> %pet Tangent
L152[05:30:40] * MichiBot pets Tangent with a pawprint stamp. 5 health gained!
L153[05:33:39] <Tangent> :D
L154[05:33:58] <Tangent> I am unreasonably happy that it decided on a pawprint stamp.
L155[05:34:18] * Tangent is a fox
L156[05:34:23] <Forecaster> it uses random items from the inventory that people have added
L157[05:34:35] <Forecaster> %loot
L158[05:34:35] <MichiBot> Forecaster: You get a loot box! It contains a sad looking flower.
L159[05:34:39] <Forecaster> >:
L160[05:36:22] <Tangent> %loot ?
L161[05:36:23] <MichiBot> Tangent: You get a loot box! It contains a particularly fat bee.
L162[05:36:34] <Tangent> Woo! *is stung* Noooo!
L163[05:37:01] <Forecaster> yep. loot
L164[05:37:08] <Forecaster> because everyone likes loot boxes right?
L165[05:37:31] <Tangent> How often can one %loot though o.o
L166[05:37:50] <Forecaster> until someone tells you to stop spamming
L167[05:38:15] <Forecaster> (please don't)
L168[05:42:25] <Tangent> %loot
L169[05:42:25] <MichiBot> Tangent: You get a loot box! It contains a tiny knife.
L170[05:42:37] <Tangent> Twice is not a spam...three times, maybe.
L171[05:42:46] <Tangent> %loot
L172[05:42:46] <MichiBot> Tangent: You get a loot box! It contains a box full of wasps.
L173[05:42:48] <Tangent> annnd done
L174[05:43:00] <Tangent> WHY DO I KEEP GETTING POINTY THINGS
L175[05:43:14] <Forecaster> they like you :P
L176[05:43:35] <Forecaster> you didn't get any of the actual fancy things, only junk items
L177[05:47:46] <Inari> Tangent: I'm a foxgirl! xP
L178[05:53:09] <Tangent> Inari: :D Me tooo. Except, not girly enough. :(
L179[05:54:16] <Inari> Though I still haven't bought a fox tail :<
L180[05:55:29] <Tangent> I had three for a brief time. Then I threw one away in a fit of depression, to put it lightly.
L181[05:55:42] <Tangent> And then the other two broke.. And then I got a new one! .. and then it broke..
L182[05:55:52] <Tangent> I have had not the best luck with them unfortunately.
L183[05:56:06] <Inari> HAha
L184[05:56:24] <Inari> I'm kind of undecided between synthetic vs real. They both have downsides. Plus I haven't found a nice looking synthetic one
L185[05:59:55] <Inari> And real ones seem harder to get in general
L186[06:00:22] <Tangent> I have no idea whether or not the ones I got were real or not. I just didn't think to ask / don't know how to tell the difference.
L187[06:07:55] <Inari> I'd guess most you get would be synthetic, unlesss you specifically look fro a real one
L188[06:13:24] <Tangent> okay wtf is actually available when booting from bios?
L189[06:13:45] <Forecaster> not a lot
L190[06:13:51] <AmandaC> ~w custom oses
L191[06:13:51] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/tutorial:custom_oses
L192[06:14:06] <Forecaster> I was just about to do that D:
L193[06:14:13] <Forecaster> I must train more!
L194[06:14:17] <Forecaster> become faster!
L195[06:15:10] <Tangent> ocdoc is giving invalid links :p
L196[06:15:17] <Tangent> ocdoc.il.li
L197[06:15:22] <Tangent> not ocdo.cil.li
L198[06:16:21] <Tangent> The pages on standard / non-standard Lua API gave me the impression that require and print for example, would be available.
L199[06:16:49] <Tangent> I'm not talking about on an EEPROM either, I'm talking about when init.lua is called by the default EEPROM (or OpenLoader)
L200[06:17:10] <MGR> If only I could type with all my muscles at once
L201[06:17:30] <MGR> init.lua is basically the same as an EEPROM, but with more space
L202[06:17:46] <MGR> If I recall correctly, the OpenOS functionality is set up during/after init.lua is called
L203[06:17:55] <Tangent> Sooo, reading the entire list of what's available.. I essentially would have to implement my own version of require / print.
L204[06:18:17] <Tangent> Because it looks like the only stuff there is some standard lib stuff minus any IO, and then computer / component access
L205[06:18:41] <Tangent> I was under the impression (again, from the other pages on the docs) that io was available.
L206[06:19:35] <Tangent> I just feel like it should be made a little more clear :/
L207[06:19:54] <Tangent> I understand the difference between what the docs are saying and what I thought they were saying now
L208[06:20:12] <Tangent> but it just feels like they imply there is more available at that time than there is.
L209[06:21:20] <Tangent> In other news...I'm suddenly not sure I want to do this, considering I have to rewrite io.. :/
L210[06:21:37] <Forecaster> just copy it?
L211[06:21:44] <Tangent> I know I'm just being lazy, but damn there is a lot to do just to get to the basics of what I want to do.
L212[06:21:53] <Tangent> That's the lazy way out :P
L213[06:21:59] <Tangent> *contradictory mode activated*
L214[06:22:08] <Forecaster> what are you trying to do anyway
L215[06:22:15] <Tangent> I don't want to be lazy by copying stuff because then what's the point of making my own OS?
L216[06:22:34] <Tangent> Nothing too specific, I just thought it'd be fun to write my own OS for OC.
L217[06:22:54] <Tangent> I didn't realize that my definition of fun would involve quite this much.
L218[06:24:47] <Forecaster> everything is opensource for a reason :P
L219[06:25:02] <Tangent> Pain. The reason is pain.
L220[06:25:53] <Forecaster> no, so you can copy stuff from each other and avoid pain :P
L221[06:27:17] <Inari> require is relatively easy to code though? And you can use HDDs directly if you're too lazy to code io/fs
L222[06:28:28] <Tangent> I mean, I'll figure it out, it just really threw me. xD
L223[06:28:37] <Inari> :P
L224[06:28:39] <Inari> Anyway, bathtime
L225[06:29:12] <Tangent> Have fun
L226[06:39:18] <Forecaster> or don't!
L227[06:40:16] <MGR> https://notalwaysright.com/not-so-tender-about-the-chicken/117425/
L228[06:40:29] <MGR> Sorry Ma'am, let me go kill that chicken for you right now
L229[06:44:45] <Forecaster> I've read that, it's still funny :P
L230[06:45:06] <MGR> Yup
L231[06:46:24] <MGR> https://notalwaysright.com/higher-than-a-helicopter/71320/
L232[06:46:32] <MGR> I have helicopters in my veins too
L233[06:53:00] <Tangent> (if any is curious, the idea behind making my own OS is a minimal base footprint but extensible)
L234[06:53:44] <Tangent> (fox example, the shell will be a core that can only execute programs in a very limited way, but with the ability to run 'modules' so-to-speak that enhance the base ability)
L235[06:53:53] <Tangent> ...for example, although, fox example works too
L236[06:54:32] <Tangent> So like, the bare minimum has no concept of a working dir, env vars, escaping, IO redirection, but each of these things and more can be added on easily
L237[06:54:45] <Tangent> so a core system can be installed with bare functionality, or a more complete system
L238[06:54:54] <Tangent> also hopefully to be tweakable depending on tier of computer
L239[06:55:33] <Forecaster> if you want help there are people here who've made their own os'es
L240[07:05:25] <Forecaster> %loot
L241[07:05:25] <MichiBot> Forecaster: You get a loot box! It contains a viscous blue potion.
L242[07:10:29] <Tangent> %loot me too :P
L243[07:10:29] <MichiBot> Tangent: You get a loot box! It contains a Magic official Vexatos Good Enough™ seal of approval for OC support! (25%)
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L246[07:10:56] <Tangent> it died :(
L247[07:11:04] <Tangent> %loot for me too please
L248[07:11:04] <MichiBot> Tangent: You get a loot box! It contains a doorknob.
L249[07:11:10] <Tangent> :D ... D:
L250[07:11:16] <Tangent> Accidentally palindrome
L251[07:12:55] <Forecaster> %restart
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L255[07:14:48] <Forecaster> Now there's more potions amongst the junk items :D
L256[07:15:08] <Forecaster> %loot
L257[07:15:09] <MichiBot> Forecaster: You get a loot box! It contains a very stale piece of pizza.
L258[07:15:13] <Forecaster> ew
L259[07:15:16] <Inari> .
L260[07:15:19] <Wuerfel_21> %loot
L261[07:15:19] <MichiBot> Wuerfel_21: You get a loot box! It contains a smelly green potion.
L262[07:15:26] <Wuerfel_21> ew
L263[07:15:27] <Inari> Ahh, much better, the update had turned off using BG colours for nicks too
L264[07:15:28] <Forecaster> oh hey, good bot MichiBot
L265[07:15:29] <MichiBot> Corded: You're too kind!
L266[07:15:35] <Wuerfel_21> %loot
L267[07:15:35] <MichiBot> Wuerfel_21: You get a loot box! It contains a very stale piece of pizza.
L268[07:15:35] <Inari> Which made them much less recognizable
L269[07:15:41] <Wuerfel_21> %loot
L270[07:15:42] <MichiBot> Wuerfel_21: You get a loot box! It contains a raspberry pi that only beeps at you.
L271[07:15:49] <Wuerfel_21> cool and good
L272[07:15:56] <Wuerfel_21> %loot
L273[07:15:57] <MichiBot> Wuerfel_21: You get a loot box! It contains a mermaid scale.
L274[07:16:01] <Inari> https://twitter.com/keion_tv/status/1017380573898141696
L275[07:16:01] <MichiBot> Thu Jul 12 07:10:05 CDT 2018 @keion_tv: https://t.co/L3wrOXc8fk
L276[07:16:06] <Wuerfel_21> ehh
L277[07:16:08] <Wuerfel_21> %loot
L278[07:16:08] <MichiBot> Wuerfel_21: You get a loot box! It contains a dragon tooth.
L279[07:16:15] <Wuerfel_21> now this is cool
L280[07:16:29] <Forecaster> the junk items are meant to be fairly mundane
L281[07:16:31] <Forecaster> :P
L282[07:16:46] <Inari> %loot
L283[07:16:46] <MichiBot> Inari: You get a loot box! It contains a monopoly top hat figure.
L284[07:16:57] <Inari> %whatislove
L285[07:16:57] <MichiBot> Inari: Love is... romantic fireworks, with sergal wedge wheel on top!
L286[07:17:03] <Forecaster> xD
L287[07:17:06] <AmandaC> @Forecaster I think there's a bug, because one of the things you called a "junk" item was actually already in her inventory
L288[07:17:08] <tim4242> %loot
L289[07:17:08] <MichiBot> tim4242: You get a loot box! It contains a tiny figurine.
L290[07:17:09] <Forecaster> almost got it MichiBot
L291[07:17:24] <Inari> AmandaC: Perhaps it was both!
L292[07:17:44] <Forecaster> which one?
L293[07:18:05] <Inari> the crudely drawn appendage, or so
L294[07:18:23] <AmandaC> "a picture of a crudely drawn appendage"
L295[07:18:29] <Inari> that
L296[07:18:53] <Forecaster> oh, well I didn't know that when I added it
L297[07:18:56] <Forecaster> %actualshrug
L298[07:18:56] <MichiBot> Forecaster: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L299[07:19:23] <Inari> %moo ^
L300[07:19:23] <MichiBot> ooh, well I didn't knoow that when I added it
L301[07:19:34] <Inari> Interesting
L302[07:19:46] <Forecaster> what is?
L303[07:20:00] <Tangent> %loot
L304[07:20:00] <MichiBot> Tangent: You get a loot box! It contains a eerily quiet singing fish.
L305[07:20:01] <Inari> It ignoring the command and its own response
L306[07:20:02] <Inari> :P
L307[07:20:26] <Tangent> %moore
L308[07:20:28] <Tangent> :P
L309[07:20:32] <Forecaster> yeah... because none of those are added to the message buffer
L310[07:21:13] <Wuerfel_21> %moo ^
L311[07:21:14] <MichiBot> yeah... becaoose noone oof thoose are added too the message booffer
L312[07:21:35] <Wuerfel_21> ~~Have you mooed today?~~
L313[07:21:50] <Forecaster> %inv add booffer
L314[07:21:50] * MichiBot summons 'booffer' and adds to her inventory. This seems very sturdy.
L315[07:21:52] <Inari> Nah, I prefer making Temia moo
L316[07:22:02] <Forecaster> lewd
L317[07:23:36] <Temia> M-moo? o-o
L318[07:23:41] <Inari> Now to figure out what to watch fro lunch
L319[07:23:47] <Inari> Temia: Ohi:3
L320[07:27:45] <Inari> %pet Temia
L321[07:27:45] * MichiBot brushes Temia with reverse thrust. 4 health gained!
L322[07:28:13] <Forecaster> that sounds ineffective :P
L323[07:29:15] <Tangent> What is the wake message on wireless cards??
L324[07:29:31] <MGR> I believe you set it yourself
L325[07:29:33] <Tangent> What is this thing where you can just add things to inventory..
L326[07:29:41] <Tangent> But what does it do, MGR ?
L327[07:29:50] <Forecaster> what thing?
L328[07:30:08] <Tangent> Here, the $inv add word
L329[07:30:10] <Tangent> command
L330[07:30:17] <Forecaster> MichiBot
L331[07:30:27] <Tangent> What is a wake message for / how is it used?
L332[07:30:42] <Tangent> Forecaster: I know.. but why?
L333[07:31:10] <MGR> The MichiBot command exists because it does
L334[07:31:19] <Forecaster> wake message is to trigger other computers to start up via the network
L335[07:31:22] <Forecaster> like wake-on-lan
L336[07:33:28] <Forecaster> the commands just appeared one day and before anyone noticed it was too late
L337[07:34:05] <Forecaster> or maybe I added them to MichiBot just for fun, I can't quite remember
L338[07:38:01] <Inari> Red Mars series is pretty good btw :p
L339[07:40:29] <Forecaster> what's that?
L340[07:41:12] <MGR> Book series
L341[07:42:38] <Forecaster> ah
L342[07:55:01] <AmandaC> But is it as good as our lord and saviour Buttered Toast Strapped to Cats
L343[07:55:22] <MGR> Infinite Energy
L344[07:56:10] * Inari fetches some toast to strap to AmandaC
L345[07:56:20] * AmandaC hides
L346[08:01:31] <MGR> https://www.reddit.com/r/talesfromtechsupport/comments/8ubgtb/find_my_truck/
L347[08:02:13] <Inari> %inv add toast that attaches to cats
L348[08:02:13] * MichiBot summons 'toast that attaches to cats' and adds to her inventory. This seems rather fragile...
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L351[08:22:37] <Forecaster> https://loadingartist.com/comic/dirty-business/
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L353[08:22:39] <Forecaster> lewd
L354[08:23:10] <MGR> %ohno
L355[08:23:10] <MichiBot> MGR: ohno
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L359[08:35:37] <Forecaster> %loot
L360[08:35:37] <MichiBot> Forecaster: You get a loot box! It contains a turnip.
L361[08:45:32] ⇦ Quits: Thutmose (Thutmose!~Patrick@host-69-59-79-181.nctv.com) (Quit: Leaving.)
L362[09:21:49] <MGR> https://www.reddit.com/r/iiiiiiitttttttttttt/comments/8xz1eo/realteks_site_is_best_viewed_at_800x600_in_ie6_in/
L363[09:22:16] <Corded> * <MGR> sighs
L364[09:40:36] <MGR> "Me: Errr, do you want a copy of my protests in writing now…. or should I just skip a step and shred them?" --- Quote 1/2
L365[09:46:41] <Lonke> anyone good way of pasting and running scripts with open computers?
L366[09:46:55] <Inari> Depends
L367[09:47:15] <Lonke> anyone know a good way of pasting and running scripts with open computers? [Edited]
L368[09:47:53] <Inari> e.g. online/offline?
L369[09:48:05] <Lonke> online
L370[09:48:21] <Lonke> it's annoying to copy, erase a script and then paste every tijme
L371[09:48:24] <Lonke> it's annoying to copy, erase a script and then paste every time [Edited]
L372[09:48:30] <Forecaster> pastebin
L373[09:49:25] <Lonke> Welp, it's better than this I guess
L374[09:50:01] <Lonke> What happened to the clipboard item?
L375[09:50:13] <Lonke> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/644
L376[09:50:15] <MichiBot> Title: Copy and Paste | Posted by: TheCatLover | Posted: Sat Nov 01 22:57:34 CDT 2014 | Status: closed
L377[09:50:16] <Lonke> got accepted 3 years ago
L378[09:51:27] <Wuerfel_21> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/321380054280175616/466959582942461966/tyky1t7ywh911.png
L379[09:52:43] <Forecaster> what is that supposed to be?
L380[09:53:46] <Lonke> looks like a crafting recepie to me ?
L381[09:53:56] <Forecaster> %bap @Lonke
L382[09:53:56] * MichiBot baps @Lonke with watermelon war
L383[09:54:12] <Inari> Well, theres ocnetfs
L384[09:54:56] <Inari> Which I always used for that kinda thing
L385[09:55:17] <Lonke> how's it work/how would the pipeline look then?
L386[09:55:44] <Wuerfel_21> @Forecaster loss
L387[09:56:12] <Lonke> @Wuerfel_21 terrible attempt at a terrible meme
L388[09:56:14] <MGR> I'm not sure how ocnetfs would help, because he'd still have to erase and copy the file somewhere
L389[09:56:18] <Inari> afaik you use Love2D to run ocnetfs on your PC
L390[09:56:23] <Inari> And run the scripton the ingame PC
L391[09:56:26] <Wuerfel_21> hey, i just copypasted it
L392[09:56:32] <MGR> ?
L393[09:56:45] <Inari> @MGR Well, I assumed the copy/paste is to get it to ingame from an external editor or something :P
L394[09:56:58] <MGR> True
L395[09:57:04] <MGR> But wouldn't pastebin be the easiest solution?
L396[09:57:11] <MGR> pastebin get/push or whatever?
L397[09:57:14] <Lonke> yeah, would like to keep using sublime
L398[09:57:37] <Inari> Yeah, so you just save your file and when you try to run it ingame, ocnetfs will ask your PC for the file, download it, and run it
L399[09:58:42] <Lonke> I'll just go with pastebin
L400[09:59:01] <Lonke> it's a hassle, still, but it seems preferable
L401[09:59:31] <Inari> How so
L402[10:00:00] <Lonke> Don't have to set stuff up
L403[10:00:08] <Inari> Riiight
L404[10:00:22] <Inari> Well enjoy spending time on pastebin then xP
L405[10:00:29] <Forecaster> I use a GitLab repo
L406[10:24:16] <Inari> Temia: https://twitter.com/Shujinbun/status/1017192385057394688
L407[10:24:16] <MichiBot> Wed Jul 11 18:42:17 CDT 2018 @Shujinbun: しっ！！静かにしろ俺だ！！助けに来た！ https://t.co/gxtqh3dljh
L408[10:26:43] <Temia> Aw <3
L409[10:32:33] <Wuerfel_21> i just got a really scary and evil and horrible idea
L410[10:32:54] <Wuerfel_21> hosting some kind of dynmap on a git-based webhost
L411[10:38:24] <Inari> Use git to backup MC worlds
L412[10:42:22] <gamax92> big one time setup vs several small time setup
L413[10:49:39] <Inari> Not even big tbh
L414[10:50:06] <Inari> Download love.. 10s? Start it.. 10s? install the other hting.. 30s with OPPM install
L415[11:06:06] <Inari> Random observation of the day: Nicest and Incest are one letter flip apart
L416[11:09:43] <gamax92> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWY4-33U8AAkhSK.png
L417[11:10:51] <MGR> "Me: Sorry, you saw a printer lodged in a wall, so you thought…. I’ll just go plug that in?" --- Quote 2/2
L418[11:12:20] <Forecaster> %loot time for some
L419[11:12:20] <MichiBot> Forecaster: You get a loot box! It contains a frog leg.
L420[11:12:35] <Corded> * <Forecaster> wiggles frog leg
L421[11:21:03] <Temia> %loot
L422[11:21:03] <MichiBot> Temia: You get a loot box! It contains a cloudy cyan potion.
L423[11:21:11] * Temia swirls it... tosses it at Inari
L424[11:22:58] <Inari> D: Hey!
L425[11:23:05] <Inari> That could be an aphrodisiac or something you know
L426[11:24:50] <Corded> * <Forecaster> inari turns cyan
L427[11:30:21] <AngelOfDeath> @Forecaster i removed the capitals and even took out underscores still errors
L428[11:30:33] <Forecaster> show error and new code
L429[11:33:18] <AngelOfDeath> line 25 attempt to call global 'reactoron' (a nil value) line 25 in function 'reactor1check' line 36 in function 'reactoron' line 42 in main chunk
L430[11:34:13] <AngelOfDeath> https://pastebin.com/wSFmBG6k
L431[11:35:16] <Forecaster> it may be that you're defining reactoron after reactor1check
L432[11:35:57] <AngelOfDeath> im trying to loop it mabey im not doing it right
L433[11:36:15] <Forecaster> maybe not
L434[11:36:55] <Inari> It is that your'e defining reactoron after reactor1check
L435[11:38:43] <AngelOfDeath> sorry not following
L436[11:39:26] <Inari> reactor1check only knows of the things that existed before you made it
L437[11:39:34] <Inari> So the ones before it in the code
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L439[11:40:06] zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L440[11:40:15] <Inari> %pet Vexatos
L441[11:40:15] * MichiBot brushes Vexatos with twintails. 10 health gained!
L442[11:40:32] <gamax92> 10
L443[11:40:44] <Inari> So reactro1check knows that reactoroff exists because reactoroff is above it in teh code
L444[11:40:48] <Inari> But it doesn't know reactoron exists
L445[11:41:43] <AngelOfDeath> so how do i keep it this way but make it know
L446[11:42:24] <Inari> Well if you don't want to move the functions around you'd probably do something like.. do local reactoron at the top and change "local function reactoron()" to "reactoron = function()"
L447[11:43:36] <Inari> That first tells it that a local value called reactoron exists
L448[11:43:43] <Inari> And later tells it what that value is
L449[11:45:07] <AngelOfDeath> i cant move the functions around cause there will always be that one thats is below or at least thats what ime seeing
L450[11:46:24] <Inari> True :p
L451[11:46:51] <Inari> You could also put the 3 functions into a table
L452[11:47:23] <AngelOfDeath> ive not quite learned tables
L453[11:47:51] <Inari> Yeah, just do the local thing then
L454[11:48:26] <AngelOfDeath> do i still leave it to call the function like this reactoron()
L455[11:49:01] <Inari> Yeah
L456[11:50:07] <AngelOfDeath> works wonders thanks so much off to the next problem
L457[11:50:36] <gamax92> oMightyLuaGods.commandThee(FIND_AND_INVOKE, "myTreasuredFunction");
L458[11:51:31] <AngelOfDeath> would it be better it i did this for all my fuctions...... reactoron = function()
L459[11:54:22] <Inari> Well it's just that way because you already told it that a local value called reactoron already exists :P If you went "local function reactoron" you'd basically just tell it thats a new local value instead of setting the value to the old one
L460[11:55:09] <AngelOfDeath> but im haveing local problems with printing heat maxheat and safe from before or not updating
L461[11:55:31] <Inari> There isn't really an upside or downside, but I guess if I were to script that and didn't want to use tables or such, I'd probably change all functions over just to have it look consistent
L462[11:55:37] <Inari> Hm?
L463[11:56:02] <Inari> Well
L464[11:56:11] <Inari> You never actually update the Heat value in the functions, if you mean that
L465[11:56:38] <AngelOfDeath> yea
L466[11:57:15] <AngelOfDeath> its not useing like 12 to update ?
L467[11:57:37] <Inari> line12 just prints out the value?
L468[11:58:12] <AngelOfDeath> line 12 is local heat = reactor_1.getheat()
L469[11:58:29] <Inari> Ah :P In that old pastebin it's still print (Safe)
L470[11:59:24] <AngelOfDeath> right right my bad
L471[11:59:25] <Inari> Well.. reactor_1.getHeat() gets the current heat from the reactor. And it then stores it into the "Heat" variable. But its just the heat at that given point in time, it doesn't keep updating it to newer values
L472[12:00:11] <AngelOfDeath> oh ive made heat a variable not a function
L473[12:34:26] <AngelOfDeath> alright everything is working except when it reaches the safe temp line 37 it shuts it off but doesnt loop back to reactor1check on line 20
L474[12:35:16] <AngelOfDeath> which should bring it back to reactoron() at line 32
L475[12:40:04] <Inari> You might want to restructure this anyway, though I'm not sure it'll ever hit the limit as this may be tail calls
L476[12:40:17] <Inari> But you keep calling reactoron and then the other function and so on :D
L477[12:40:41] <Inari> And yes, that'd be expected I guess
L478[12:40:59] <Inari> reactor1check loops as long as Heat < Safe. If Heat isn't < Safe, then reactrooff is called in reactoron
L479[12:41:03] <Inari> And reactor1check stops looping
L480[12:41:08] <Inari> Thus, nothing loops and it exits
L481[12:42:11] <Forecaster> you might want to do something like
L482[12:42:46] <Forecaster> Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/xasemocaro
L483[12:50:46] <AngelOfDeath> https://pastebin.com/EUjffqqv
L484[12:50:48] <AngelOfDeath> ?
L485[12:51:29] <Forecaster> you dont need it in a function, you can just put it at the end of the program
L486[12:51:45] <Forecaster> also your indentation is better than the first paste, but still lacking :P
L487[12:51:48] <Inari> You'd also proabbly want to change reactoron witht hat layout then, as it doesn't need to call reactor1check
L488[12:53:26] <AngelOfDeath> lol he noticed
L489[12:55:09] <AngelOfDeath> @Inari i dont understand what u mean ?
L490[12:55:52] <AngelOfDeath> @Forecaster put it at the end of my program like at the last line ?
L491[12:55:54] <Inari> in reactoron() you call reactro1check(). But that isn't necessary with that kinda loop you'd have now
L492[12:56:18] <Forecaster> @AngelOfDeath yes
L493[12:56:19] <Inari> If reactoron ends, it goes back to where reactoron was called. And it loops there
L494[12:56:51] <AngelOfDeath> so no more reactor1check at all >
L495[12:56:56] <AngelOfDeath> ?
L496[12:57:15] <Forecaster> yes, you don't need it anymore
L497[12:57:18] <Inari> You can also keep it around, doesn't really matter :P Some people even prefer that
L498[12:57:42] <Inari> Some like putting a small loop at the end of the program to run it. Others prefer having everything in functions and just calling the function at the end
L499[12:58:18] <AngelOfDeath> normaly do the fuctions at the end
L500[12:59:28] <AngelOfDeath> reactoron() at the end any more the while loop takes care of that correct ?
L501[12:59:54] <Forecaster> yes
L502[13:02:18] <AngelOfDeath> https://pastebin.com/EUjffqqv
L503[13:02:39] <AngelOfDeath> line 36 attempt to compare number with nil
L504[13:03:07] <Forecaster> probably means Reactor_1.getMaxHeat() returned nil
L505[13:03:18] <Forecaster> you might want to add a check for that
L506[13:03:43] <Forecaster> I mean Reactor_1.getHeat()
L507[13:04:37] <Forecaster> you can do something like `if Heat == nil then error("Failed to get heat level") end`
L508[13:04:38] <Forecaster> you can do something like `if Heat == nil then error("Failed to get heat level") end`
L509[13:05:36] <AngelOfDeath> doesnt that still leave me with the problem ?
L510[13:06:27] <Forecaster> no, it wont say "attempt to compare number with nil" anymore :P
L511[13:08:09] <AngelOfDeath> but doesnt line 11 give heat a value
L512[13:08:41] <AngelOfDeath> or 35 for that matter
L513[13:08:41] <Forecaster> it might not if it can't find the reactor for whatever reason
L514[13:12:30] <AngelOfDeath> now im confused everything looks right
L515[13:12:44] <Forecaster> the fun of programming™
L516[13:15:14] <Izaya> S3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAG1polfIx4
L517[13:15:15] <MichiBot> Trash 80 to Treasure | TRS-80 Restoration Ep1. | length: 19m 5s | Likes: 394 Dislikes: 3 Views: 3,590 | by RetroManCave | Published On 12/7/2018
L518[13:19:17] <AngelOfDeath> ahhhhh it was line 35 safe was should have been Safe
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L520[13:19:47] <Tangent> loloollolloll
L521[13:20:00] <Tangent> Left this open while closing laptop and forgot about it
L522[13:20:12] <Forecaster> you usually don't capitalize variable names :P
L523[13:20:21] <Izaya> but what about camelCase
L524[13:20:31] <Izaya> that's kinda standard for lua
L525[13:21:01] <Tangent> You capitalize classes though. :P
L526[13:21:02] <Forecaster> pretty sure capitalize refers to the first letter specifically
L527[13:21:14] <Izaya> oh alright
L528[13:21:47] <Tangent> local crsl = ComputerRectifyingSupportLoader()
L529[13:21:50] <Tangent> :P
L530[13:21:57] <Tangent> *making up stupid class names
L531[13:22:06] <Tangent> How is everyone this morning / whatver time it is?
L532[13:22:30] * Izaya is doing well, finally got smb-netfs working
L533[13:22:33] <MGR> Good
L534[13:22:39] <Izaya> Also, did you go by TangentDelta at one point?
L535[13:22:52] <Tangent> No
L536[13:23:00] <Izaya> aight
L537[13:23:10] <Tangent> For a very long time I've gone by Guard13007 online
L538[13:23:41] <Tangent> The name Tangent came about at a furcon when while talking about a myriad of things, someone suddenly blurted out that they knew what my name should be
L539[13:23:43] <Tangent> :P
L540[13:23:51] <Tangent> Because I'm also going off on tangents.
L541[13:23:54] <Tangent> Which reminds me...
L542[13:23:58] * Tangent is kidding
L543[13:24:12] <Tangent> *always, not also
L544[13:24:37] <Forecaster> %s/m also/m always/
L545[13:24:46] <Izaya> remove the %
L546[13:24:57] <Izaya> this isn't actually ed :^)
L547[13:25:12] * Tangent doesn't know how to sed
L548[13:25:14] <Wuerfel_21> the % is needed
L549[13:25:19] * Tangent only knows Lua patterns...half the time
L550[13:25:24] <Izaya> s/needed/not needed/
L551[13:25:24] <MichiBot> <Wuerfel_21> the % is not needed
L552[13:25:31] <Forecaster> the % is required from discord
L553[13:25:37] <Izaya> oh
L554[13:25:42] <Izaya> simple solution to that then :^)
L555[13:25:44] <Wuerfel_21> because the s/old/new pattern gets turned into an edit by discord
L556[13:25:54] <Forecaster> ^
L557[13:25:55] <Tangent> Don't use Discord? :P
L558[13:26:01] <Izaya> Precisely.
L559[13:26:25] <MGR> Some of us prefer it
L560[13:26:28] <Forecaster> or, it could just work as it's supposed to
L561[13:26:40] <Forecaster> not sure why it didn't work ?
L562[13:28:30] <Wuerfel_21> hmmst, i never thought about how much power computers really need
L563[13:28:47] <MGR> 10+ Watts?
L564[13:28:50] <Wuerfel_21> how much _do_ they need?
L565[13:28:52] <MGR> Depends on the hardware
L566[13:28:58] <Wuerfel_21> as in, EU/t
L567[13:29:04] <MGR> Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh OC computers
L568[13:29:06] <Forecaster> it varies with amount of work
L569[13:29:16] <Forecaster> they don't use a lot idle
L570[13:29:16] <Wuerfel_21> `Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh OC computers` oof
L571[13:29:18] * Tangent doesn't know how to unstage a file from a git commit
L572[13:29:27] <MGR> I believe they use 2RF/t idling
L573[13:29:31] <Tangent> Anybody off the top of their head or do I have to google it
L574[13:29:38] <MGR> I don't know how much they use in EU/t
L575[13:29:51] <MGR> But I have some old numbers lying around in RF/t
L576[13:29:56] <Wuerfel_21> i think 1 EU is 4 RF ?
L577[13:31:02] <Wuerfel_21> so i defo need a couple more solars for my server farm / wifi hotspot
L578[13:32:06] <MGR> Well, if 1EU/t = 4RF/t, and solar panels make 1 EU/t (I think), then you need 1 solar panel per 2 idle computers
L579[13:32:44] <Wuerfel_21> remeber they only work less than 50% of the time
L580[13:32:47] <MGR> Maximum data rate wireless transmissions can inflate power usage to 100RF/t
L581[13:33:35] <MGR> But that's if you're maxing out the number of packets a fully upgraded Relay can handle
L582[13:33:54] <Tangent> What is the card slot on a relay for?
L583[13:33:56] <MGR> Unupgraded relay was around 50RF/t
L584[13:34:00] <Tangent> A wireless card?
L585[13:34:04] <Wuerfel_21> yes
L586[13:34:04] <MGR> Correct
L587[13:34:10] <Wuerfel_21> or a linked
L588[13:34:15] <Tangent> Can anything else go there? (Say, a linked card?)
L589[13:34:16] <Tangent> ah
L590[13:34:20] <Tangent> gg timing
L591[13:34:31] <MGR> ? I didn't test a linked card, but it would make sense
L592[13:34:31] <Tangent> Anything else, or just those two? (Nothing else would make sense)
L593[13:34:39] <MGR> Pretty sure it's just those two
L594[13:35:13] <Tangent> Anybody tried to set up a network large enough that assigning hostnames became something you don't want to just allow any computer to be able to do itself?
L595[13:35:17] <Wuerfel_21> you should be able to use the self destruct card
L596[13:37:56] <Wuerfel_21> i am trying to set up a large network, but i don't think it'll be large enough that that becomes a major problem
L597[13:38:22] <MGR> I do make some things that help with that
L598[13:39:13] <Tangent> MGR ?
L599[13:39:15] <Tangent> Like what?
L600[13:39:33] <Izaya> Sales pitch in 3... 2...
L601[13:39:38] <MGR> I sent a PM, must have gotten lost in the mail ?
L602[13:39:40] <Tangent> :P
L603[13:40:02] <Tangent> I didn't even notice it xD
L604[13:40:20] <Izaya> He's talking about https://github.com/GlobalEmpire/GERT
L605[13:40:27] <Izaya> In most cases it just makes things more complicated.
L606[13:40:30] <MGR> No sales pitch to be found, but I do make a networking API
L607[13:40:30] <Izaya> YMMV though.
L608[13:40:40] <Wuerfel_21> Selling those GERT licenses like a true italian car salesman
L609[13:40:41] <Wuerfel_21> Selling those GERT licenses like a true italian car salesman
L610[13:40:46] <MajGenRelativity> It doesn't actually make things more complicated
L611[13:40:54] <Wuerfel_21> discord u bgg
L612[13:40:56] <Wuerfel_21> discord u bugg [Edited]
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L614[13:41:03] * Izaya yawns
L615[13:41:05] <MGR> I think it's Corded that died
L616[13:41:22] <Izaya> If only.
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L618[13:49:10] * Tangent is finally about to be connecting from a "real" client instead of inside OpenOS
L619[13:49:31] <Tangent> fucking HexChat installer not elevating priveldges properly
L620[13:49:33] <Tangent> goddammit
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L622[13:51:14] <TangentFox> Boop
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L626[13:57:33] <Wuerfel_21> and for todays out-of-context thingy, take this: http://tinyurl.com/yckej6zq
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L643[14:02:19] <gamax92> rest in void
L644[14:02:46] <CompanionCube> ?
L645[14:02:54] <TangentFox> Oh hi gamax92
L646[14:03:32] <TangentFox> I slightly hate you (not really) because of a minor annoyance I had with something you did once on GitHub..or I am confusing you with someone else
L647[14:03:34] <TangentFox> :P
L648[14:03:54] * TangentFox thinks to herself "What a great fucking way to introduce yourself. Say hi and I dislike you. That's polite. You moron."
L649[14:04:59] <TangentFox> uhhh
L650[14:05:07] <TangentFox> Discord says ALL of my servers are unavailable
L651[14:05:09] <TangentFox> D:
L652[14:06:19] <Izaya> And nothing of value was lost.
L653[14:06:58] <gamax92> TangentFox: Understood, have a great day.
L654[14:07:19] <Inari> %bap Izaya
L655[14:07:19] * MichiBot baps Izaya with the plush dragon
L656[14:07:21] <TangentFox> And now my computer keeps popping up windows while I'm trying to type. :/
L657[14:07:59] <TangentFox> Sorry gamax92 <3 (No seriously, I love the stuff you've made though, don't even remember /what/ annoyed me.)
L658[14:09:39] <Inari> https://twitter.com/Foone/status/1017484937824333824 thats cool
L659[14:09:40] <MichiBot> Thu Jul 12 14:04:47 CDT 2018 @Foone: Fun fact: For the floppy version of Win95, the first disk is the normal 1.44mb, but every disk after that is 1.68mb… https://t.co/CUKuUa6sfi
L660[14:10:06] <Inari> (more tweets in thread too)
L661[14:10:39] <TangentFox> That was an interesting read.
L662[14:11:02] <TangentFox> Also now I have to follow this person.
L663[14:11:37] <TangentFox> In other news, I have an idea for an app to make YouTube better. Yay APIs. Sucks that I don't have the time or patience for all of my ideas.
L664[14:11:48] <gamax92> I am reminded of trying to apply fixpaks to OS/2
L665[14:12:35] <gamax92> OS/2's fixpaks suck
L666[14:12:37] <Wuerfel_21> @Corded make your mind up
L667[14:13:11] <Kleadron> lol
L668[14:14:08] * TangentFox is going to hopefully fix *something* by rebooting.. :/
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L670[14:23:20] <Izaya> http://is2.4chan.org/g/1531422599513.jpg
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L672[14:28:12] <Wuerfel_21> what happens when a wireless relay gets a wireless message? does it repeat it to other wireless relays? network cycle hell?
L673[14:33:20] <Forecaster> I think it just broadcasts it into the wired network
L674[14:39:24] <Wuerfel_21> so i need to have some routing computers in there or some nodes can't communicate
L675[14:40:40] <Forecaster> what?
L676[14:42:27] <Wuerfel_21> say you have two computers with wireless cards
L677[14:42:41] <Wuerfel_21> too far apart to directly communicate
L678[14:43:13] <Wuerfel_21> put a relay in the middle and attach a computer for rerouting messages
L679[14:43:31] <Wuerfel_21> (obvs. requires a high level protocol)
L680[14:43:52] <Forecaster> you'd have to catch and re-broadcast them yeah
L681[15:16:32] <Wuerfel_21> ok what even is that
L682[15:16:53] <Izaya> ?
L683[15:16:56] <Wuerfel_21> a PSone debugger card?
L684[15:17:00] <Wuerfel_21> of sorts
L685[15:17:08] <Izaya> I think it's a PS2 as a PCI card
L686[15:17:18] <Izaya> for development, one assumes
L687[15:32:37] <Forecaster> or, conquering the world, who knows
L688[15:34:22] <boiler> it'd be nice if OC drives were compressed into .tar files to reduce file count in worlds
L689[15:34:55] <boiler> its tripled the amount of time it takes to manipulate (copy, move, delete, etc) world files that have lots of OC filesystems in them
L690[15:42:26] <Wuerfel_21> .tar isn't very good for random file access
L691[15:43:44] <Wuerfel_21> the real™ solution is to make all drives unmanaged and move filesystem implementation into the OS, but that is a giant can of worms
L692[15:46:15] <Izaya> but then my custom OS would need to triple in size
L693[15:47:00] <Kleadron> open it
L694[15:47:47] <Izaya> filesystems are complicated
L695[15:47:52] <Kleadron> ~~open the can of worms what could possibly go wrong~~
L696[15:48:12] <Izaya> that said it would be nice to support extended attributes properly
L697[15:48:23] <Izaya> speaking of extended attributes
L698[15:48:49] <Izaya> should I store them as a second, hidden file next to existing files, or all the attributes in a central db?
L699[15:48:59] <Izaya> uses more disk space but less memory for the former
L700[15:51:59] <Wuerfel_21> one db per directory?
L701[15:52:15] <Izaya> that'd make sense
L702[15:52:20] <boiler> ^ no shit
L703[15:52:21] <Izaya> good compromise
L704[15:52:59] <boiler> i just want some kind of compression for the OC files to keep the massive file count of openOS instances down
L705[15:53:07] <boiler> i just want some kind of compression for the OC files to keep the massive file count of openOS installs down [Edited]
L706[15:53:17] <Izaya> now I guess I end up having DS_Store. Wonderful.
L707[15:54:03] <Izaya> Searching will be slower but not overly slow I guess.
L708[15:55:56] <boiler> i spent so long waiting for my old worlds to archive that i forgot the names of the worlds and deleted a bunch of them out of frustration
L709[16:11:11] <boiler> welp
L710[16:11:36] <boiler> my world size issues are gone, the entire thing is corrupted
L711[16:11:36] <boiler> rip ship
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L713[16:45:06] <Lonke> so about that OCNetFS, how do I set it up on me PC?
L714[16:45:08] <Lonke> so about that OCNetFS, how do I set it up on me PC?
L715[16:45:08] <Lonke> so about that OCNetFS, how do I set it up on me PC?
L716[16:46:28] <Inari> Such spam
L717[16:47:18] <Lonke> lol discord said my message wasn't able to be sent
L718[16:47:18] <Lonke> so I hit retry
L719[16:47:26] <Lonke> and it sent every time I see now after restart
L720[16:50:53] <Lonke> quality electron app
L721[16:51:34] <CompanionCube> boiler: you could just use filesystem compression but that's usually not a thing
L722[16:51:54] <CompanionCube> and isn't entirely optimal due to lacking the application's knowledge
L723[16:56:28] <Lonke> so how do I use OCNetFS when I've got all the stuff set up
L724[17:03:12] <Lonke> @Inari
L725[17:08:17] <Izaya> Randomly pinging people. Great manners.
L726[17:09:46] <Lonke> Hardly, he was the one to recommend me using OSNetFS in the first place
L727[17:10:31] <Lonke> Hardly, he was the one to recommend me using OCNetFS in the first place [Edited]
L728[17:10:58] <Lonke> @Lizzian
L729[17:11:03] <Lonke> now that's random
L730[17:12:33] <Lonke> the documentation on thing is so bad I might aswell be reverse engineering it
L731[17:17:51] <Inari> You run it with love2d :P
L732[17:19:57] <Lonke> aye and after that
L733[17:20:01] <AmandaC> There's another branch with a "plain"-lua version
L734[17:20:19] <Lonke> I already have love2d
L735[17:21:21] <Lonke> I am able to run both the ingame script and the love2d ones but how do I run files from my own computer?
L736[17:24:04] <gamax92> %choose anime or manga
L737[17:24:04] <MichiBot> gamax92: manga
L738[17:24:37] * AmandaC boops gamax92, looks to see what he's reading
L739[17:25:11] <gamax92> uhm
L740[17:25:19] <gamax92> don't know yet
L741[17:25:25] <AmandaC> ah
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L743[17:29:10] <Lonke> @Inari
L744[17:29:11] <Lonke> I already have love2d
L745[17:29:11] <Lonke> I am able to run both the ingame script and the love2d ones but how do I run files from my own computer?
L746[17:31:08] <AmandaC> %choose computer or not so computer
L747[17:31:08] <MichiBot> AmandaC: not so computer
L748[17:31:12] <AmandaC> I agree
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L750[17:36:33] <Lonke> welp ocnetfs is fucking useless
L751[17:40:34] <AmandaC> I've used it, but have no idea wtf you mean by "run files from my own computer"
L752[17:45:54] <Lonke> that's what I was told it could do
L753[17:47:15] <Lonke> have the OC component of it communicate with the Love2D server
L754[17:48:17] <Lonke> which would send/run a file in OC
L755[17:50:48] <Izaya> so just to confirm
L756[17:51:03] <Izaya> you've removed your local address from the blacklist in the OC config
L757[17:51:29] <Lonke> I have not
L758[17:51:33] <Izaya> then ran ocnetfs host port?
L759[17:51:50] <Inari> Didn't tehy play on a server anyway
L760[17:52:11] <Izaya> iunno
L761[17:52:13] <Lonke> Yes
L762[17:52:29] <Izaya> aight so then you need to point it at your machine
L763[17:52:39] <Izaya> which probably entails port forwarding unless you have IPv6
L764[17:53:34] <Lonke> for the port which it runs on? aight, I'll do that
L765[17:59:21] <Lonke> righty
L766[18:01:34] <Lonke> the Love2D server says listening on 0.0.0.0:14948 which seems incorrect?
L767[18:01:58] <Izaya> nope
L768[18:02:04] <Izaya> it's listening on all available addresses
L769[18:02:33] <Lonke> then what though?
L770[18:03:10] <Izaya> then what what
L771[18:03:13] <Lonke> I run ocnetfs with my ip and forwarded port
L772[18:03:24] <Lonke> and the server
L773[18:03:36] <Izaya> so you run the server first
L774[18:03:47] <Lonke> yes
L775[18:04:10] <Izaya> and assuming you did your port forwarding correctly
L776[18:04:46] <Izaya> you do ocnetfs address port
L777[18:04:53] <Izaya> and then it'll create a filesystem component
L778[18:06:17] <Lonke> how would I interface with this exactly?
L779[18:06:25] <Izaya> it'll appear in /mnt
L780[18:06:30] <Izaya> but you can also mount it wherever you want
L781[18:11:46] <Lonke> Doesn't seem as such, I'll tinker a bit with the port forwarding
L782[18:11:56] <Lonke> as this new router is weird
L783[18:12:38] <Lonke> but what exactly appears in mnt? From where does the server grab its files
L784[18:17:31] <Z0idburg> \
L785[18:17:39] <Lonke> I screwed up the port
L786[18:18:00] <Z0idburg> ......
L787[18:18:09] <Z0idburg> I just realized something
L788[18:18:51] <Z0idburg> Donkey Kong 64 didn't require the expansion pack really
L789[18:19:05] <Z0idburg> the only reason it needed the 4 MB addon is to slow down a memory leak
L790[18:19:16] <Z0idburg> wtf?
L791[18:19:44] <Z0idburg> also, what is ocnetfs?
L792[18:20:46] <Mimiru> https://github.com/OpenPrograms/gamax92-Programs/tree/master/OCNetFS it's this
L793[18:25:20] <Lonke> fixed the port
L794[18:25:31] <Lonke> seems to connect now
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L797[18:26:44] <Z0idburg> TIL
L798[18:26:58] <Z0idburg> Mimiru is always spying on us
L799[18:27:59] <Lonke> I get a user connected from [SERVER IP]
L800[18:28:03] <Lonke> but nothing in mnt
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L802[18:34:35] <Z0idburg> oh shit I needed to pick Vex's brain
L803[18:35:10] <Z0idburg> @Lonke what kind of black magic are you attempting with OC now?
L804[18:36:12] <Lonke> literally anything
L805[18:36:38] <Lonke> no just trying to get OCNetFS to work as advertised
L806[18:37:12] <Lonke> all the documentation is hear-say
L807[18:37:35] <Lonke> all the documentation is hearsay [Edited]
L808[18:38:53] <Lonke> All I want is an efficient way to run scripts
L809[18:39:20] <Lonke> and from the ancient literature it seems that was once easily possible, but removed from unknown reasons
L810[18:40:05] <Lonke> probably made the mod TOO easy to use and it was removed to rid the community of weaklings
L811[18:42:41] <AmandaC> ... what
L812[18:43:03] <AmandaC> Know what, don't want to know
L813[18:43:18] <AmandaC> %choose anime or manga it podcasts
L814[18:43:18] <MichiBot> AmandaC: manga it podcasts
L815[18:43:37] <AmandaC> %choose a or m or p
L816[18:43:37] <MichiBot> AmandaC: m
L817[18:43:40] <AmandaC> Kk
L818[18:43:44] <AmandaC> More Birdy it is
L819[18:44:08] <Inari> Oooh
L820[18:44:14] <Inari> Birdy is good :P At least hte anime
L821[18:50:41] <Izaya> Lonke: considering mounting the fs manually?
L822[18:51:06] <Izaya> From a quick look at the code, the UUID of the virtual component will be host:port
L823[18:51:58] <Lonke> eh, maybe later, had enough of this steaming pile of code for now
L824[18:52:22] <Inari> I'll try this tomorrow,a nd it'll probably work withint 5 minutes
L825[18:52:23] <Inari> :p
L826[18:52:42] <Lonke> i just wanna write some luas for the minecrafts, why's it gotta be so damn hard
L827[18:53:33] <Izaya> It's probably working now.
L828[18:53:55] <Izaya> I imagine if you run components it'll include the component ocnetfs would include
L829[18:59:43] <Inari> %inv add banana cream donut
L830[18:59:43] * MichiBot summons 'banana cream donut' and adds to her inventory. This seems very sturdy.
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L835[19:27:47] <Izaya> would the openttd server be called openttdd
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L837[19:30:33] <gamax92> Open Star Transport
L838[19:44:06] <AmandaC> %Tell Inari I was reading the Birdy manga -- the Anime sounded like it took quite a few libertys ( In the manga there's none of the fashion / model stuff mentioned in the MAL synopsis )
L839[19:44:16] <AmandaC> ... TIL MichiBot is case-sensitive
L840[19:44:20] <AmandaC> %tell Inari I was reading the Birdy manga -- the Anime sounded like it took quite a few libertys ( In the manga there's none of the fashion / model stuff mentioned in the MAL synopsis )
L841[19:44:21] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Inari will be notified of this message when next seen.
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L843[20:05:09] <Tangent> Hiyo
L844[20:05:58] <Izaya> ey o/
L845[20:07:28] <AmandaC> Was really confused for a second, thought this was othernet, was wondering when Izaya showed up on my IRC server
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L847[20:15:37] <Molinko> Anybody know how i can exit the currently running shell from within a program(OpenOS)?
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L849[20:18:17] <Izaya> Set a push events for ctrl-c, ctrl-d and exit your program
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L851[20:21:17] <Tangent> Izaya, but they're asking how to exit the shell, not their program.
L852[20:21:24] <Izaya> yup
L853[20:21:32] <Molinko> How?
L854[20:21:32] <Izaya> hence the pushing ctrl-c, ctrl-d
L855[20:21:53] <Molinko> Can I write that to stdout?
L856[20:21:55] <Izaya> ctrl-c will cancel their input, then ctrl-d is saying end of file and the shell will exit and restart
L857[20:22:02] <Molinko> And the she'll just exits?
L858[20:22:17] <Molinko> Sweet
L859[20:22:57] <Tangent> Izaya, curious what you mean by ctrl-d is saying EOF
L860[20:23:00] <Tangent> ?
L861[20:23:11] <Izaya> ctrl-D is EOF
L862[20:23:19] <Izaya> just like ctrl-M is newline and ctrl-C is uh
L863[20:23:20] <Izaya> something
L864[20:24:30] <Molinko> So I can do io.write('D(uparrow)')
L865[20:24:41] <Tangent> didn't know that, is there somewhere I can look those up?
L866[20:24:53] <Tangent> What are they called, like 'control codes' ?
L867[20:25:02] <Molinko> Thanks izaya
L868[20:25:32] <Izaya> Molinko no you'll need to push the events
L869[20:25:43] <Molinko> how so?
L870[20:25:45] <Izaya> Tangent: subtract 32 from the ASCII code of a given character
L871[20:25:47] <Izaya> event.push
L872[20:25:52] <Izaya> wait no
L873[20:25:54] <Izaya> computer.pushSignal
L874[20:26:15] <Izaya> honestly there's probably a cleaner way to do it but I'm not payonel so I don't know it
L875[20:26:27] <Molinko> lol i get it
L876[20:26:55] <Izaya> basically you're pushing the events to act as the user killing their own session
L877[20:27:19] <Molinko> i hear ya
L878[20:27:20] <Molinko> thx
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L885[22:04:16] <Kodos> Are you wanting to cleanly exit your program?
L886[22:04:23] <Kodos> Oh
L887[22:04:25] <Kodos> I was scrolled up
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L889[22:30:19] <AmandaC> %choose read more or bed
L890[22:30:20] <MichiBot> AmandaC: bed
L891[22:30:25] <AmandaC> Hrm
L892[22:30:29] <AmandaC> I guess I'll be responsible
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L894[22:53:05] <Saphire> Want to have a stroke?
L895[22:53:25] <Saphire> "()<>[]:,;@\\\"!#$%&'-/=?^_`{}| ~.a"@example.org
L896[22:53:25] <Saphire> Is a valid email
L897[23:03:00] <Tangent> %choose flailing or actually do something useful
L898[23:03:00] <MichiBot> Tangent: flailing
L899[23:03:03] <Tangent> GOT IT
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L901[23:28:02] <gamax92> %choose suffer or alternative suffer
L902[23:28:02] <MichiBot> gamax92: suffer
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L913[23:55:16] <Lizzian> @Lonke don't randomly ping me with no context especially when I'm asleep
L914[23:55:43] <Lizzian> Does any one know what they wanted?
L915[23:57:04] <Izaya> help with ocnetfs, safe to ignore
L916[23:57:14] <Lizzian> K
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