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L2[00:30:39] <AmandaC> Oops, I was a lot bad
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L8[03:23:04] <Saphire> Rawr
L9[03:54:45] <Forecaster> https://youtu.be/an5PIDKo4gw
L10[03:54:47] <MichiBot> BO3 Neptunia Mod - Launch | length: 10m 55s | Likes: 8,541 Dislikes: 174 Views: 274,122 | by CN Loyalists | Published On 7/6/2018
L11[03:55:41] <Forecaster> So someone made this
L12[04:16:42] <Izaya> oh, black ops?
L13[04:17:07] <Izaya> I spent a lot of time trying to figure out what that meant
L14[04:17:15] <Izaya> anyway, Skye, seems up your alley
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L18[05:55:59] <vifino> Izaya: but that doesn't give you much useful info.
L19[05:56:12] <Izaya> there's like a bajillion flags
L20[05:56:14] <Izaya> but okay
L21[06:22:39] <Wuerfel_21> tfw someone puts 400+ chickens in a 1x1 hole
L22[06:22:56] <Izaya> did the game freak out?
L23[06:23:39] <Wuerfel_21> no, but the it came awfully close to the magic 50 ms tick time limit
L24[06:32:55] <Wuerfel_21> it's pretty funny actually. On the physical plane, the server looks like business (indeed, small businesses is what these are marketed to). But what actually happens inside is n-body simulations of chickens
L25[06:34:56] <Alex404> Ok, i'm stupid and I don't understand what is this "driver mode"
L26[06:35:02] <Alex404> Is there a wiki page that i cannot find?
L27[06:35:42] <Alex404> I'm trying forum post about event.listen and i've read the even page, but I'm sure i'm missing the starting point
L28[06:35:51] <Alex404> I'm trying forum post about event.listen and i've read the event page, but I'm sure i'm missing the starting point [Edited]
L29[06:40:53] <Wuerfel_21> basically, you can set up a function to be called whenever an event you're interested in fires
L30[06:41:21] <Wuerfel_21> even after your program is done
L31[06:43:02] <Skye> Wut? Driver mode? What OS?
L32[06:45:29] <Alex404> thats what i'm not understanding
L33[06:45:38] <Alex404> like, while i'm inside another program?
L34[06:45:54] <Alex404> do i need to let the "driver program" quit after i activate it?
L35[06:46:34] <Alex404> How can I kill it after i've opened it?
L36[06:46:48] <Izaya> event.ignore
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L39[07:51:47] <Inari> AmandaC: Ah, right, I was wrong
L40[07:51:52] <Inari> It isn't Science Fiction wiht Isaac Arthur
L41[07:51:59] <Inari> It's Science & Futurism with Isaac Arthur
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L43[09:01:08] <Wuerfel_21> Is there a network filesystem for minitel yet?
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L45[09:14:47] <IRCBridge043295> Hello all
L46[09:17:28] <Inari> %hello
L47[09:17:28] <MichiBot> Inari: Hello! Welcome to #oc! The one and only opencomputers channel! Please ask your questions directly (dont ask to ask) and provide error/code examples! (Use pastebin.com if theyre more than one line!) Dont mind the random conversation you might have walked into.
L48[09:21:06] <FLORANA> hello :3
L49[09:31:13] <Inari> %pet Temia
L50[09:31:13] * MichiBot pets Temia with Forecaster's ssh private key. 2 health gained!, Forecaster's ssh private key sinks into quicksand.
L51[09:31:19] <Izaya> @Wuerfel_21 Not presently, as I'm still not sure how to implement authentication.
L52[09:33:20] <Izaya> if you have any interesting input though, https://github.com/ShadowKatStudios/OC-Minitel/issues/5
L53[09:33:20] <MichiBot> Title: Implement network auth system | Posted by: XeonSquared | Posted: Tue Apr 17 07:16:15 CDT 2018 | Status: open
L54[09:33:26] <Wuerfel_21> mabe by signing the messages with a private key
L55[09:33:32] <Izaya> too expensive
L56[09:33:51] <Izaya> means having either lots of code or requiring the data card, neither of which is ideal in the slightest
L57[09:33:55] <Wuerfel_21> how does it work irl?
L58[09:34:15] <Wuerfel_21> i am sure there is a pure lua RSA somewhere to fall back on
L59[09:34:36] <Wuerfel_21> https://gist.github.com/1lann/6604c8d3d8e5fdad0832
L60[09:34:40] <Izaya> There's pure-lua asymmetric crypto libs, but they're all large.
L61[09:35:10] <Wuerfel_21> does this count as large?
L62[09:35:51] <Izaya> yes
L63[09:36:02] <Izaya> 25k is larger than the entire minitel stack, probably twice over
L64[09:36:24] <Izaya> and then you need a symmetric crypto setup of some kind too
L65[09:36:36] <Wuerfel_21> not for signing
L66[09:36:57] <Izaya> true enough, but if you're tripling the size you might as well uh
L67[09:37:00] <Wuerfel_21> assuming that you don't need to encrypt the actual data
L68[09:37:04] <Izaya> 5x the size and have full stream encryption
L69[09:38:54] <Wuerfel_21> i don't think there is anything inbetween naively sending the secret over the net and asymetric crypto
L70[09:38:59] <Inari> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/436555823423160320/460451217991008256/unknown.png so pretty though
L71[09:39:12] <Wuerfel_21> yes
L72[09:39:38] <Izaya> I was going with implementing something like CHAP
L73[09:39:48] <Izaya> You only need a hashing function that way.
L74[09:40:08] <Wuerfel_21> true dat
L75[09:41:25] <Izaya> Downside is that you have to store the password on-disk but at this point I don't even care
L76[09:41:34] <Wuerfel_21> needs plaintext passwords, but eh, it is prob. easier to just break in jank out the hard drive vs. haxxoring a file server, if you really want those files
L77[09:41:46] * Izaya nods
L78[09:42:29] <Wuerfel_21> unless it's inter-universal networking
L79[09:42:36] <Wuerfel_21> unless it's inter-multiversal networking [Edited]
L80[09:46:01] <Izaya> I mean, it's inter-server at least
L81[09:46:43] <Wuerfel_21> that is what i meant there
L82[09:47:14] <Wuerfel_21> becasue lore-wise, one could say a server is a multiverse
L83[09:47:25] * Izaya nods
L84[09:47:47] <Temia> Oh no D:
L85[09:47:56] * Temia grabs a stick and fishes around in the quicksand
L86[09:48:04] * Temia pulls it out and finds miqo'te guys clinging to it.
L87[09:48:06] <Temia> Dammit, Balmung
L88[09:48:11] <Inari> Heh
L89[09:48:29] <Wuerfel_21> data card can do md5 and sha256. md5 seems faster to do in software
L90[09:48:52] <Izaya> I have a 5k Lua implementation of sha256
L91[09:49:33] <Izaya> speed isn't my concern tbh, anything in Lua will complete in under a tick on all but the most uh
L92[09:49:37] <Izaya> anemic machines?
L93[09:50:02] <Izaya> generally slow, anyway
L94[09:50:22] <Wuerfel_21> i tend to forget that the actual code execution is rather fast
L95[09:52:31] <Izaya> Lua is v fast for a scripting language
L96[09:52:43] <Wuerfel_21> ~~pawn is faster~~
L97[09:53:21] <Wuerfel_21> now there's a problem:
L98[09:55:32] <Wuerfel_21> if one uses a stream for the fileserver, auth needs to happen only once, but it needs a bunch of logic to keep track of connections and reestablish them when one of the machines reboots or whatever
L99[09:55:59] <IRCBridge043295> shutdown
L100[09:56:02] <IRCBridge043295> shutdown
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L102[09:58:05] <Inari> %pet AmandaC
L103[09:58:05] * MichiBot brushes AmandaC with a cursed whitespace. 7 health gained!
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L105[09:58:26] <Wuerfel_21> ordered packets would have the advantage of needing less code, but there needs to auth more, i think
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L107[09:59:45] <Inari> Why not both
L108[10:00:21] <Wuerfel_21> even more code?
L109[10:01:38] <Izaya> iunno
L110[10:01:50] <Inari> :P
L111[10:02:03] <Izaya> if you had an auth lib that operated on socket objects it'd be p small
L112[10:03:32] <Wuerfel_21> sounds good
L113[10:04:18] * AmandaC cuddles up against Inari, spreading the cursed whitespace to her
L114[10:05:10] <Inari> Nooo
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L117[10:06:29] <Wuerfel_21> but i assume there is no code for remote filesystems yet, at all? If so, i might get on that, unauthorized at first
L118[10:06:57] <Izaya> hey man if you want to work on that it'd be appreciated
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L120[10:08:02] <Wuerfel_21> `hey man` am grill
L121[10:08:16] <Izaya> I don't discriminate.
L122[10:08:27] <Wuerfel_21> i guess it'd work similiar to frequest
L123[10:09:38] <Wuerfel_21> client: can haz directory listing for /mnt/pr0n/?
L124[10:09:54] <Izaya> I'd suggest looking into 9p/styx
L125[10:10:03] <Wuerfel_21> server: yes [DATA EXPUNGED]
L126[10:10:11] <AmandaC> ... a 9p client for OC...
L127[10:10:20] <AmandaC> THAT I'd like to see
L128[10:11:26] * AmandaC lights @Wuerfel_21 up, starts beaming some burgers and hotdogs onto them
L129[10:14:15] <AmandaC> I find it somewhat amusing that plan9 fell flat, but it's filesystem protocol, a core part of it's entire being, lives on so much
L130[10:14:30] <AmandaC> It's used a lot in filesystem sandboxing
L131[10:14:57] <Izaya> inertia is a powerful uh
L132[10:16:13] <Izaya> I'm not sure force is the right way to put it but it's not surprising considering unix already existed when plan9 was in development and Windows NT was on the horizon
L133[10:16:29] <AmandaC> yeah, true. Apples and cabbages.
L134[10:16:30] <Izaya> apparently people were p scared of Windows NT back then
L135[10:16:44] <Wuerfel_21> win NT is crap though
L136[10:16:54] <Izaya> the NT kernel has a bunch of cool shit
L137[10:17:08] <AmandaC> isn't the NT kernel still the core of what windows uses today?
L138[10:17:10] <Izaya> it has its issues also, of course, but if you take the Windows out of Windows NT it's pretty good
L139[10:17:21] <Izaya> AmandaC: Windows NT 10
L140[10:17:26] <AmandaC> ISTR they started on a new one for vista, but gave up and went back to NT for 7
L141[10:17:28] <Wuerfel_21> my scool at some point switched their SMB server to linux becasue an update to NT _reduced_ the set of characters allowed as hostnames
L142[10:18:07] <Mimiru> Vista was NT still
L143[10:18:10] <Wuerfel_21> and noone wanted to go around and reconfigure all the computers using it
L144[10:18:40] <Izaya> they tried to do a new kernel for Vista but it kinda sucked so they gave up
L145[10:18:47] <Mimiru> Vista was NT 6.0, 7 6.1, 8 was 6.2, 8.1 was 6.3 and 10 is 10.0
L146[10:18:49] <Izaya> they were going to make a BeFS ripoff too but that also never happened
L147[10:19:14] <Mimiru> My VERY early alpha longhorn was still NT based, so they never moved very far with any other kernel
L148[10:19:49] <Izaya> they were trying to do the kernel in a managed language IIRC
L149[10:19:58] <Izaya> .NET/C# I think?
L150[10:20:46] <Wuerfel_21> i am not sure how virtual filesystems work in openOS, i assume they get the same buffering as filesystem components?
L151[10:21:07] <Wuerfel_21> ore _are_ they virtual filesystem components?
L152[10:21:18] <Izaya> I assume the idea would be to make a virtual component
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L154[10:21:41] <Wuerfel_21> payonel do the explaining thing
L155[10:22:21] <Izaya> I don't think we've gotten many virtual FS things since vcomponent came out tbh
L156[10:22:52] <Wuerfel_21> devfs is one i know of
L157[10:23:22] <Izaya> that's OpenOS internal though
L158[10:24:40] <Wuerfel_21> i don't know if it has special code or just uses an api to do the filesystem thing
L159[10:28:31] <Wuerfel_21> but it seems that just tunneling the filesystem component calls would be rather simple
L160[10:28:42] * Izaya nods
L161[10:28:47] <Izaya> the trick would be wrapping the path
L162[10:28:54] <Izaya> or rather, restricting it
L163[10:29:01] <Wuerfel_21> altough you'd likely want to use the openos filesystem api on the server
L164[10:34:53] <Wuerfel_21> idea: restricting to one directory could work by using `filesystem.canonical` on paths and checking if the beginning of the result matches a config value. I think the fs component only takes absolute paths anyways?
L165[10:36:06] <Izaya> fs components have no concept of $PWD
L166[10:36:42] <Wuerfel_21> problem: neither do they have one of symlinks
L167[10:36:45] <Izaya> that said, that means you'd have to do the nfs thing and mount host:/export /whatever
L168[10:37:51] <Wuerfel_21> thats just concatenating paths on the client
L169[10:38:04] <Izaya> aye
L170[10:38:09] <Izaya> prepending the path to the request
L171[10:39:16] <vifino> Temia!
L172[10:39:45] <Temia> Vifino!
L173[10:40:09] <vifino> You brought my TL Axolotls (I think that's what they are called...), thankyous!
L174[10:40:49] <Wuerfel_21> is creating server-side symlinks that important though?
L175[11:05:02] <Wuerfel_21> wasn't there a limit on how much data an fs component can r/w at a time?
L176[11:05:20] <Izaya> 2048 bytes by default IIRC
L177[11:06:24] <Wuerfel_21> then they don't get huge strings passed in, i guess
L178[11:07:30] <Wuerfel_21> which is useful because writing a huge file and erroring out due to lack of space, yet still having the client send packets out is not fun
L179[11:09:30] <Wuerfel_21> does minitel layer 5 have some kind of packet joining thing where it doesn't send out stuff immeadiatly but waits for some stuff to accumulate?
L180[11:09:42] <Izaya> not presently
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L182[11:29:45] <Wuerfel_21> devfs indeed just creates a fs component proxy and gives that to the fs api, apparently with a hardcoded adress
L183[11:32:47] <Wuerfel_21> and there are some dirty haxx to avoid loading the full devfs api, apparently
L184[11:32:50] <Temia> You're welcome c:
L185[11:32:56] <Temia> Axolotls are great
L186[11:33:35] <Orbstheorem> Is there something like tmux for OC?
L187[11:33:48] <Orbstheorem> I'd like to split my screen ^^
L188[11:34:01] <Izaya> well, yes and no
L189[11:34:12] <Izaya> OpenOS isn't multitasking but it does support splitting the screen
L190[11:34:30] <Orbstheorem> Oh, how? ^^
L191[11:34:44] <Orbstheorem> (I promise being nice and yielding in my threads ^^)
L192[11:35:01] <Izaya> the term API has (undocumented) stuff for splitting the screen IIRC
L193[11:35:04] <Izaya> ~w term
L194[11:35:04] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/api:term
L195[11:35:11] <Izaya> s/ed/ed(?)/
L196[11:35:11] <MichiBot> <Izaya> the term API has (undocumented(?)) stuff for splitting the screen IIRC
L197[11:35:35] <Izaya> man this weechat filter causes some weird things to happen with s/
L198[11:36:01] <Izaya> https://i.imgur.com/fY5e2Ba.png
L199[11:40:26] <Orbstheorem> what plugin is it?
L200[11:42:25] <Izaya> /trigger add relaybot modifier weechat_print "${tg_tag_host} == ~bot@botmask" "/.*<([^>]+)> (.*)/${re:1}\t${re:2}/"
L201[11:42:27] <Izaya> or similar
L202[11:44:59] <Orbstheorem> Also, could you enlight me in the splitting thing of term?
L203[11:45:17] <Orbstheorem> s/^/Cool, thanks\n/
L204[11:45:17] <MichiBot> <Orbstheorem> Cool, thanksnAlso, could you enlight me in the splitting thing of term?
L205[11:45:27] <Orbstheorem> hmm
L206[11:45:40] <Orbstheorem> s/thanksn/thanks \\n/
L207[11:45:40] <MichiBot> <Orbstheorem> Cool, thanks \nAlso, could you enlight me in the splitting thing of term?
L208[11:45:42] <Izaya> I'm afraid not, I've never used it
L209[11:45:49] * Izaya pages payonel
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L211[12:03:04] <Wuerfel_21> also ocdoc.cil.li is outdated af
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L213[12:11:35] <Izaya> Someone likes their Druaga1.
L214[12:11:38] <LinuxMint420ssd> what does a clownboy say?
L215[12:11:55] <Izaya> S-stick an SSD in it.
L216[12:12:08] <LinuxMint420ssd> Yee-Honk
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L218[12:13:52] <Izaya> That was unusual.
L219[12:14:04] <Temia> Yep.
L220[12:22:39] <Wuerfel_21> speaking of druaga1, here is your daily reminder that this shiz is lit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXHVvvpZ0j0
L221[12:22:40] <MichiBot> 3UR0D5C0.MID | length: 4m 43s | Likes: 3,083 Dislikes: 29 Views: 48,600 | by Druaga1 | Published On 4/10/2017
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L223[12:26:33] <Izaya> Good stuff.
L224[12:27:24] <WindowsMEmachine> what is good stuff?
L225[12:29:07] <Izaya> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXHVvvpZ0j0
L226[12:29:08] <MichiBot> 3UR0D5C0.MID | length: 4m 43s | Likes: 3,083 Dislikes: 29 Views: 48,600 | by Druaga1 | Published On 4/10/2017
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L228[12:35:45] <Wuerfel_21> there's also the video that plays in that video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3rec_Ou6kc
L229[12:35:46] <MichiBot> 3UR0D5C0.MID Monitor Video | length: 4m 42s | Likes: 114 Dislikes: 0 Views: 844 | by Druaga1 | Published On 1/10/2017
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L231[13:22:12] <Wuerfel_21> have i ever released the computronics SID emulator thing?
L232[13:35:16] <AmandaC> Izaya: shouldn't that only trigger for corded then?
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L234[14:25:43] <Inari> %pet AmandaC
L235[14:25:44] * MichiBot brushes AmandaC with NPE. 8 health gained!
L236[14:28:54] <Kleadron> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM5uNxtT0Mk]
L237[14:28:54] <MichiBot> Windows 98 20th Anniversary All New PC Build | length: 13m 38s | Likes: 174 Dislikes: 2 Views: 1,055 | by AkBKukU | Published On 24/6/2018
L238[14:28:55] <Kleadron> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM5uNxtT0M [Edited]
L239[14:30:14] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvzVaF4_EjE
L240[14:30:14] <MichiBot> Trouble Windows (HD, subtitles) | length: 2m 14s | Likes: 197 Dislikes: 0 Views: 13,559 | by marisafag | Published On 15/9/2012
L241[14:42:17] <Izaya> AmandaC: whois MichiBot and Corded
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L251[20:30:06] <AmandaC> Izaya: oh... That's weird
L252[20:30:42] <AmandaC> I wonder if that's why s// behaves similarly with the output of %choose
L253[20:31:11] <AmandaC> Mimiru: might be relevant ^
L254[20:31:59] <AmandaC> (corded's ident is MichiBot )
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L256[21:10:03] <Z0idburg> damn
L257[21:10:26] <Z0idburg> A friend of mine just gave me one of his old 100Mhz Pentium I computers
L258[21:10:37] <Z0idburg> but unfortunately it doesnt' seem to boot up ?
L259[21:12:53] <Kiritow> ocdoc.cil.li is down?
L260[21:14:07] <Z0idburg> apparently
L261[21:14:38] <Z0idburg> it's 503 so it could be as simple as say a proxy not responding or CGI not working depending on the setup
L262[21:21:12] <Kiritow> alright...
L263[21:24:36] <Z0idburg> @Kiritow wanna fix my computer?
L264[21:25:09] <Z0idburg> since ocdoc is down what else is there to do?! ?
L265[21:25:22] <Izaya> S3: I was given a small C2D desktop a few minutes ago :D
L266[21:25:46] <Kiritow> I am trying to writing code with in-game document
L267[21:26:06] <Z0idburg> I opened up the case Izaya and there's rust everywhere..
L268[21:26:13] <Z0idburg> the motherboard looks fine but there's rustr everywhere..
L269[21:26:13] <Izaya> x_x
L270[21:26:23] <Z0idburg> also this thing seems to have a VIA BIOS..
L271[21:26:25] <Z0idburg> wut..
L272[21:26:29] <Izaya> CMOS battery okay?
L273[21:26:37] <Z0idburg> I didn't even knew VIA made those
L274[21:26:37] <ben_mkiv> in a pentium 1? xD
L275[21:26:40] <ben_mkiv> are you kidding?
L276[21:27:12] <Z0idburg> shouldn't need a charge to boot, but you're right, I didn't check the CMOS battery for leakage
L277[21:27:33] <Z0idburg> it has a turbo button!
L278[21:27:55] <Z0idburg> you know I think I know what's going on
L279[21:28:03] <Z0idburg> I remember noticing the reset button got stuck
L280[21:31:52] <Z0idburg> ok. so! got it to post beep, then remembered I forgot to connect the keyboard..
L281[21:31:59] <Z0idburg> this thing has a PCI PS/2 port
L282[21:32:12] <Z0idburg> because the onboard is AT and I don't have an AT keyboard anymore.
L283[21:32:39] <Izaya> PCI
L284[21:32:41] <Izaya> Fancy
L285[21:32:52] <Z0idburg> the PCI video card is not working.. I'm trying to remind myself if EGA used the same connector and what the signal looked like..
L286[21:33:19] <Z0idburg> I think it's VGA
L287[21:33:30] <Z0idburg> yeah there are two 16 bit ISA slots in it
L288[21:35:06] <Z0idburg> hm. Yeah I never seen a P1 with anything other than VGA so I'm being stupid there
L289[21:35:29] <Z0idburg> But the VGA BIOS should be kicking in...
L290[21:35:41] <ben_mkiv> wasnt it actually that P1 only supported PCI GPUs?
L291[21:36:18] <Z0idburg> I don't think so, I mean a P1 is backwards compatible
L292[21:36:36] <Z0idburg> When you start your computer your video card has an option rom that takes care of business
L293[21:36:39] <Z0idburg> afaik
L294[21:36:55] <Z0idburg> so as long as the system can support it it doesnt matter what cpu you have
L295[21:38:08] <Kiritow> oh ocdoc is on , great
L296[21:38:14] <Z0idburg> lol
L297[21:38:19] <Z0idburg> stop breaking things
L298[21:38:42] <Z0idburg> ben_mkiv, I just wish my 486 box would work
L299[21:39:04] <ben_mkiv> xD
L300[21:39:05] <Z0idburg> it boots up and just won't do the actual booting
L301[21:39:10] <ben_mkiv> i just wish my main screen would work
L302[21:39:20] <Z0idburg> it's almost as if the chipset is screwed
L303[21:39:23] <ben_mkiv> and not take 1hour to heat up before it starts to display useful stuff xD
L304[21:39:38] <Z0idburg> Oh man I was using an old osciloscope today
L305[21:39:48] <Z0idburg> turned it on, I was so excited
L306[21:40:02] <Z0idburg> because it took like 45 secconds before the screen even started displaying anything at all
L307[21:40:05] <Z0idburg> had to warm up
L308[21:40:09] <ben_mkiv> xD
L309[21:40:30] <Z0idburg> thing only does 20Mhz but it's fantastic
L310[21:40:38] <Z0idburg> I don't like digital osciloscopes they suck
L311[21:40:41] <ben_mkiv> yea but in my case i think its the controller board
L312[21:40:46] <Z0idburg> analog is the way to go
L313[21:41:11] <Z0idburg> lol
L314[21:41:51] <ben_mkiv> me and my neighbour got cheap 21" CRTs years back, and the cats used to sleep on them xD
L315[21:41:55] <ben_mkiv> because of the heat^
L316[21:44:03] <Z0idburg> my CRT is 22"
L317[21:44:15] <Z0idburg> 2048x1536@80Hz
L318[21:44:50] <Z0idburg> I have two of them but I dunno where the other is
L319[21:48:39] <Z0idburg> ok
L320[21:48:51] <Z0idburg> my other half and I are arguint about the toilet
L321[21:48:57] <Z0idburg> I never thought I'd see the day
L322[21:49:10] <Z0idburg> she wants a new toilet, I said our toilet flushes poop just fine
L323[21:49:31] <Z0idburg> it's a poop chute, what do you expect out of it
L324[21:50:52] <ben_mkiv> xD
L325[21:51:30] <ben_mkiv> so its also fixed frequency? because that was the downside of the deal back then xD
L326[21:51:34] <Z0idburg> I mean, it needs a new seat and a new float, thats like $20
L327[21:51:45] <ben_mkiv> we had to figure out how to use them, as they only work with one frequency at each resolution
L328[21:51:47] <Z0idburg> but it still flushes and it still sits
L329[21:52:14] <Z0idburg> oh, for VGA?
L330[21:52:28] <Z0idburg> yeah well it had to do with the VGA porch
L331[21:52:30] <Z0idburg> ?
L332[21:52:31] <ben_mkiv> they actually had rgb/sync connectors so BNC => vga cables
L333[21:52:38] <Z0idburg> the porch told the VGA monitor everything
L334[21:53:00] <Z0idburg> and there was no data in the porch, just the latency of the porch and the duty cycle, etc
L335[21:53:11] <Z0idburg> that would tell it what the resolution and refresh rate was
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L337[22:19:23] <Z0idburg> +++++++
L338[22:19:23] <Z0idburg> +
L339[22:19:23] <Z0idburg> +
L340[22:19:24] <Z0idburg> +
L341[22:19:24] <Z0idburg> +
L342[22:19:25] <Z0idburg> +
L343[22:19:25] <Z0idburg> +
L344[22:19:25] <Z0idburg> +
L345[22:19:26] <Z0idburg> +++++++++++
L346[22:19:26] <Z0idburg> +
L347[22:19:34] <Z0idburg> ++++++++++++++++++++++++
L348[22:19:34] <Z0idburg> +
L349[22:19:34] <Z0idburg> +++++++++++++++++
L350[22:19:35] <Z0idburg> +
L351[22:19:35] <Z0idburg> +
L352[22:20:04] <Z0idburg> oh crap! sorry guys
L353[22:20:11] <Z0idburg> I fell asleep on my keyboard ?
L354[22:20:39] <Z0idburg> going to get up and get ready for bed lol gotta be up early
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L357[23:57:21] <Fatmice> could someone help with my threading? what's wrong with it? http://tinyurl.com/yd5e4rvl
L358[23:57:22] <Fatmice> http://tinyurl.com/y77v3tkz
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