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L3[02:15:51] <peelz_> Does the indentation of 'ghhggh' and its subtables make sense? https://i.imgur.com/dAT282t.png
L4[02:16:30] <peelz_> or should I get rid of the extra indentation logic?
L5[02:23:50] <Izaya> if you'
L6[02:23:56] <Izaya> re gonna push em over, be consistent
L7[02:24:15] <Izaya> the ghggh{ closing } should be equal to the opening {
L8[02:24:45] <Izaya> though
L9[02:24:57] <Izaya> the serialization API has a pretty print option
L10[02:25:01] <Izaya> ~w serialization
L11[02:25:01] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/api:serialization
L12[02:26:17] <peelz_> Izaya, but it is though?
L13[02:26:32] * Izaya nods
L14[02:26:34] <peelz_> oh wait, I fucked it up lol
L15[02:26:46] <peelz_> I got confused because of the truncation at the end :P
L16[02:26:50] <peelz_> / missing bracket
L17[02:28:06] <peelz_> Izaya, I'm not using the serialization API because I don't want to end up serialiazing an entire table just to truncate it and keep like 3-10 lines of it lol
L18[02:28:26] <peelz_> I'm trying to replicate the behavior of the native docs printing implementation
L19[02:28:43] <peelz_> if that makes any sense
L20[02:29:14] <Izaya> serialization auto-truncates
L21[02:29:19] <peelz_> Does it?
L22[02:29:34] <peelz_> As in an option?
L23[02:30:34] <peelz_> well shit it does
L24[02:30:38] <Izaya> Default for pretty-print
L25[02:30:49] <peelz_> yeah I just read that
L26[02:30:51] <peelz_> makes sense
L27[02:32:57] <peelz_> https://i.imgur.com/7pH6rgJ.png
L28[02:33:11] <peelz_> I guess I'll just use that instead, rip my custom serialization code lmao
L29[02:33:58] <peelz_> the curly bracket wrapping is weird though, but it's whatevs
L30[02:36:07] <peelz_> usually deleting code feels good... but not when you just wrote it ;(
L31[02:36:53] <peelz_> Izaya, thanks for the heads-up anyhow lol
L32[02:48:38] <Forecaster> %loot
L33[02:48:38] <MichiBot> Forecaster: You get a loot box! It contains a paper crane.
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L38[05:21:50] <redgoblin88> hello
L39[05:22:34] <redgoblin88> im very new to lua, but isnt there some big differences with open computers and actual lua? like how to make edit and save programs?
L40[05:23:02] <redgoblin88> im currently looking through the manual
L41[05:27:59] <connorlove9> if i can remember from playing with lua i dont think there is much difference
L42[05:28:12] <greaser|q> it's computercraft that has the big differences
L43[05:28:16] <greaser|q> opencomputers actually tried
L44[05:35:15] <Inari> Hm not much of a difference really. I mean, of course in OC you'll have to use edit or some other software written for OC :P Or if you're playing locally you can just change a config option and edit files with a normal editor on your PC
L45[05:35:19] <redgoblin88> go away connor, nobody wants you here XD XD
L46[05:45:28] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uARn2MCUZN4 this song is strangely addicting
L47[05:45:28] <MichiBot> Birdy Decode Opening 2-Kiseki by Nirgilis | length: 4m 21s | Likes: 5,132 Dislikes: 64 Views: 916,021 | by BlackHole392 | Published On 22/5/2012
L48[05:55:53] <redgoblin88> talking bots? XD
L49[05:56:21] <Izaya> of course MichiBot talks
L50[05:58:46] <20kdc> (Psst. They're all bots. Look at them. Can you see their [BOT] tags? Definitely not humans. Nope.)
L51[06:01:25] <connorlove9> @redgoblin88 u wot m8 ?
L52[06:02:23] <redgoblin88> i bet all the people in IRC right now have no idea what were on about
L53[06:02:47] <Izaya> Oh, I know that on Discord IRC users get a [bot] tag because Corded is a good bridge bot
L54[06:03:00] <Izaya> Could just use IRC and avoid Discord but hey what do I know
L55[06:03:52] <redgoblin88> ooaahh so a bunch of you are on irc and not on discord?
L56[06:04:17] * Izaya nods
L57[06:06:43] <Izaya> So here's today's news:
L58[06:06:57] <Izaya> Burning and reading a DVD is faster than ethernet and Hell is freezing over.
L59[06:07:26] <Izaya> Source: I get 1MB/s over ethernet and 13 from a DVD, and live in Hell.
L60[06:08:03] <redgoblin88> i mean, ethernet needs to worry about TCP/IP but DVDs just need to worry about recieving and sending data without packating it
L61[06:08:19] <redgoblin88> packating? <.>
L62[06:08:25] <Izaya> packeting
L63[06:08:32] <Izaya> tbh it's probably just Haiku's network stack being less than ideal
L64[06:08:35] <Izaya> or NFS being less than ideal
L65[06:08:39] <Izaya> I mean NFS is pretty shit
L66[06:09:09] <redgoblin88> ah ethernet needs to worry about *frames* in which the data itself iwthin is very small
L67[06:09:24] <Izaya> but hey I have a STALKER Shadow of Chernobyl demo video from 2005 so that's nice
L68[06:09:36] <Izaya> it can even play on this spectacular shitbox
L69[06:10:38] <redgoblin88> hm? very bad PC specs?
L70[06:10:47] <Izaya> 800x450 AVI. Truly cinematic.
L71[06:11:20] <Izaya> My other machine I use for looking at docs and controlling music is a total trainwreck from like 2003
L72[06:11:30] <redgoblin88> oohh less than half of mine then...
L73[06:11:49] <Izaya> Behold: https://track8.mixtape.moe/ffnrkq.png
L74[06:12:02] <Izaya> I also use it for IRC when I'm playing games
L75[06:12:08] <redgoblin88> i bought a new PC towards the end of 2017 with 16GB of RAM, a quad core CPU and a 1TB HDD
L76[06:12:19] <redgoblin88> this is only 1/4 of the motherboards potential
L77[06:12:39] <Wuerfel_21> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/338081788335489024/415579612815425546/karakuriA.webm this is what i call cinematic
L78[06:12:55] <Izaya> My desktop is horridly unbalanced - 16GB of DDR3, a dual-core processor, GTX980
L79[06:12:57] <redgoblin88> oh wow...........
L80[06:13:12] <redgoblin88> that looks OLD!
L81[06:13:13] <Izaya> egh how obnoxious
L82[06:13:26] <Izaya> can't play that video from a web browser for whatever reason
L83[06:13:49] <Izaya> what is this
L84[06:13:58] <redgoblin88> some reason discord wants that to be 50x50 pixels
L85[06:14:21] <Izaya> That would be because it's 64x64
L86[06:14:34] <Izaya> who's the blue-haired qt Wuerfel?
L87[06:14:35] <redgoblin88> eh close enough... still tiny
L88[06:15:16] <Izaya> maybe I should copy my 2-pass webm encoding script to the fire hazard and see how fast I can reencode this
L89[06:15:55] <Izaya> I can re-encode a 1680x1050 mp4 video into vp8 in real time on an E3 1231 v3, dunno how well a P4 HT will handle it...
L90[06:15:59] <Wuerfel_21> Izaya: wat?
L91[06:16:06] <Izaya> in the video
L92[06:16:16] <Wuerfel_21> Also, have an even more cinematic video: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/338081788335489024/415593033573072917/30min.webm
L93[06:16:34] <Izaya> yay, haiku comes with ffmpeg
L94[06:16:40] <Izaya> I can use my favorite video editor without installing anything
L95[06:16:46] <redgoblin88> just so you know... i only understood 40% of what you just said Izaya
L96[06:17:15] <Izaya> I can reencode an mp4 video to webm in real time, I don't think this fire hazard will handle it so well
L97[06:17:22] <Izaya> s/real time/real time on my server/
L98[06:17:22] <MichiBot> <Izaya> I can reencode an mp4 video to webm in real time on my server, I don't think this fire hazard will handle it so well
L99[06:17:40] <Izaya> Man, know what this machine needs?
L100[06:17:51] <Wuerfel_21> I think that originally was miku
L101[06:18:10] <Izaya> More RAM. And a graphics card. And Core 2 Duo. And a better hard drive. And a newer motherboard.
L102[06:18:24] <Izaya> A nicer case would be good too, but that means replacing the power supply.
L103[06:18:31] * Izaya sets fire to it
L104[06:20:14] <Izaya> 37 FPS! Maybe NetBust wasn't a total failure :o
L105[06:20:38] <redgoblin88> i mean, i still have my old pc if you like that ? 8GB RAM, 400GB HDD, dual core CPU, a decent graphics card...
L106[06:21:18] <Izaya> That's better than most of the machines in this room
L107[06:21:31] <Izaya> though if I get too annoyed with this machine, I do have a Core 2 Duo box under it.
L108[06:21:41] <Izaya> With one of those sexy single-slot 8800GTs
L109[06:22:02] <redgoblin88> its reached its maximum with hardware but has developed a glitch that after an hour it is guaranteed to BSOD
L110[06:22:22] <Izaya> Oh hey I know that sort of thing :D
L111[06:22:34] <redgoblin88> and my new oner already has a few broken parts
L112[06:22:42] <Izaya> The second stick of DDR in this thing, if you use the latter half of it, it crashes the machine.
L113[06:22:48] <Izaya> ergo I can't use Windows on it at all.
L114[06:23:34] <redgoblin88> the USB ports on the *top* of the case nolonger work for data transfer and if you turn it off, wait 5minuites to an hour, after you turn it back on it will crash again and again unless you leave it turned fully off for at least 3 hoursd
L115[06:23:53] <redgoblin88> it started after i knocked either my grahics card OR my RAM
L116[06:26:08] <Izaya> x_x
L117[06:26:49] <redgoblin88> so on a tier 3 computer, how can i make the text bigger?
L118[06:27:04] <Izaya> set the resolution lower
L119[06:27:08] <Izaya> resolution 80 25
L120[06:27:47] <redgoblin88> oh woah thats much much better and the perfect size! thanks ?
L121[06:27:58] <Izaya> T2 resolution with T3 colours
L122[06:28:07] <redgoblin88> im currently going through the computer letter by letter and documenting evey single thing it can do
L123[06:29:12] <Izaya> oh yay we're up to a minute with that reencode
L124[06:29:29] <Izaya> I understand why they needed like 50 amigas for Babylon 5
L125[06:30:11] <redgoblin88> last time i tried OC i made the text black..... yeah had no clue whast i was looking at or how to fix...
L126[06:30:40] <Izaya> turn it off and on again :D
L127[06:30:52] <redgoblin88> i set it to boot
L128[06:34:46] <Izaya> reencode is up to 3 minutes!
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L130[06:43:05] <Alex404> http://tinyurl.com/yd37jv9h
L131[06:43:09] <Alex404> always had this problem with screen and gpu tier 3
L132[06:44:11] <Izaya> you could even just adjust the vertical res lower
L133[06:44:27] <Alex404> pretty hard to read. Is there a config for fix that? i'm using a 1336x768 pixel monitor
L134[06:44:30] <Izaya> or turn down your GUI scale I guess, though that will make the text smaller but more clear
L135[06:45:17] <Izaya> I use T2 screens/GPUs out of habit now even though I don't have a 768px tall screen any more
L136[06:45:36] <Izaya> even my laptop is 900p nowdays despite being older than the one I upgraded from
L137[06:45:41] <Alex404> so it is a common problem?
L138[06:46:07] * Izaya nods
L139[06:46:20] <Izaya> try uhy
L140[06:46:26] <Izaya> resolution 160 40
L141[06:46:42] <Izaya> tune 40 until it fills the screen but doesn't distort, I guess
L142[06:47:01] <Izaya> would you believe this machine can play webm much better than avi
L143[06:47:45] <Alex404> a oc pc?
L144[06:48:12] <Izaya> nah something less powerful
L145[06:48:51] <Alex404> however, setting resolution fixed it!
L146[06:48:55] <Izaya> \o/
L147[06:49:00] <Izaya> now add it to your shrc
L148[06:49:08] <Alex404> thats what i get to being a total noob i guess
L149[06:49:20] <Alex404> into the whatever load first it goes
L150[06:49:24] <Alex404> *read tutorials*
L151[06:49:55] <Izaya> everyone starts a noob, everyone stays a noob, because there's always someone much better than you at whatever you do
L152[06:49:59] <Izaya> comforting
L153[06:50:34] <Alex404> in a way
L154[06:51:12] <Izaya> note to self: patch in a way to flash stuff to the EEPROM data partition
L155[06:51:38] <Alex404> still haven't read the eeprom program
L156[06:51:53] <Alex404> the resolution is set from there?
L157[06:52:00] <Izaya> nah
L158[06:52:05] <Izaya> what you want to do is uh
L159[06:52:06] <Inari> Izaya: But what if you're the worlds best?
L160[06:52:10] <Izaya> edit /home/.shrc
L161[06:52:19] <Izaya> add resolution 160 40
L162[06:52:21] <Izaya> or whatever you used
L163[06:52:24] <Izaya> then save and close it
L164[06:52:29] <Alex404> 160 45 is purrfect
L165[06:52:29] <Izaya> that'll set the res on each boot
L166[06:52:31] <Inari> resolution 1920 1080
L167[06:52:53] <Izaya> Inari: then I guess there isn't someone better at it than you
L168[06:53:08] <Alex404> then you can commit sudoku or try something else
L169[06:53:32] <Alex404> maybe somewhere is someone best at more things than you
L170[06:54:02] <Izaya> beating the pokemon league does not make you the best, fwiw
L171[06:54:35] <redgoblin88> how come gpu.fill(1, 1, 10, 10, colors.white) doesnt work?
L172[06:55:01] <Izaya> what are you filling it with?
L173[06:55:31] <Izaya> oh
L174[06:55:33] <Izaya> erm
L175[06:55:36] <redgoblin88> im just copying this with a println("HelloWorld!")
L176[06:55:37] <redgoblin88> https://oc.cil.li/index.php?/topic/1321-drawing-graphics-on-screen/
L177[06:55:48] <Izaya> I think white -> 0xFFFFFF
L178[06:55:55] <Izaya> fill only takes strings
L179[06:56:08] <Izaya> you want to set the {fore,back}ground colour then fill it with spaces
L180[06:56:12] <Izaya> (or unicode full blocks)
L181[06:56:27] <Izaya> see the snippet on
L182[06:56:28] <Izaya> ~w gpu
L183[06:56:28] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:gpu
L184[06:56:54] <Inari> If you actually read teh topic
L185[06:56:55] <Inari> You'd know
L186[06:56:55] <Inari> :P
L187[06:57:14] <Inari> Well
L188[06:57:16] <Inari> the thread to be exact
L189[06:57:30] <redgoblin88> i know but i intent to do this stuff after a few paragraphs, not a 5000 word essay
L190[07:01:48] <redgoblin88> aha got it!!
L191[07:02:16] <redgoblin88> huh i can do it as letters? *gets an idea to troll his mates with pepe's*
L192[07:03:36] <Alex404> another question about the gpu resolution. I'm trying to understand that edit/home/.shrc but i cannot find anything. Even searching on google, it gives me that is something about shell, but on my pc /home has nothing >.<
L193[07:04:01] <Izaya> you type 'edit /home/.shrc' into the OC shell
L194[07:04:07] <Izaya> it brings up the editor
L195[07:04:21] <Izaya> then you add 'resolution x y', save, and quit
L196[07:04:28] <Izaya> then it'll set that res every time you start the machine
L197[07:05:27] <Alex404> cannot do it it seems
L198[07:05:31] <Alex404> it gives me "readonly"
L199[07:05:42] <redgoblin88> huh upon boot it doesnt change but after POST it applies
L200[07:05:53] <Izaya> oh, you haven't installed OpenOS to the HDD yet?
L201[07:05:56] <redgoblin88> i managed to access it...
L202[07:06:35] <Alex404> oh stupid me, at the tenth pc ive built for testing, i must have forgot that
L203[07:09:19] <Alex404> now it works ^_^
L204[07:10:16] <Izaya> redgoblin: shrc runs when you start the shell after the boot process
L205[07:10:38] <Izaya> it's as 'on boot' as your .bashrc on a real system
L206[07:13:28] <redgoblin88> ugh im so used to putting ";" after each line, terrible habbit ive got XD
L207[07:13:47] <Izaya> https://boards.4chan.org/g/thread/66007644
L208[07:13:54] <Izaya> I think ;s are ignored in Lua
L209[07:14:20] <redgoblin88> aah handy to know, but bad practice to have mistakes...
L210[07:14:55] <Izaya> gah, this is taking ages to upload
L211[07:15:02] <Izaya> have https://pomf.pyonpyon.moe/txmbmd.webm while you wait
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L213[07:25:14] <redgoblin88> huh apparently ctrl+w closes internet tabs? =-=
L214[07:26:21] * Izaya nods
L215[07:26:32] <Izaya> and many other things
L216[07:27:06] <Aim> @redgoblin88 seen this https://github.com/IgorTimofeev/GUI ?
L217[07:27:28] <redgoblin88> oh
L218[07:27:30] <redgoblin88> my...
L219[07:27:50] <Izaya> is that the guy that did MineOS?
L220[07:27:50] <Aim> that was my first thought too
L221[07:27:52] <Aim> yeah
L222[07:28:11] <Aim> he recently started up doing some cleanup in the code
L223[07:28:16] <Aim> and made an official english translation ?
L224[07:28:25] <Aim> https://github.com/IgorTimofeev/MineOS
L225[07:28:28] <Izaya> MineOS is cool and all but you need a beast of a machine to run it
L226[07:28:39] <Aim> yea you do, but its worth it
L227[07:28:39] <Izaya> I much prefer KittenOS
L228[07:28:43] <Izaya> https://github.com/20kdc/OC-KittenOS/
L229[07:28:55] <Izaya> full GUI OS on systems with 192k RAM
L230[07:29:04] <Aim> ooh, havent tried that one yet
L231[07:29:08] <Aim> will check it out
L232[07:29:30] <Aim> I really like the gui/mineosinterface tho
L233[07:29:56] <Izaya> It is pretty.
L234[07:30:26] <Aim> that, but its quite easy to make your own gui apps
L235[07:30:28] <Izaya> KOS NEO is nice though https://pomf.pyonpyon.moe/fwhqgs.webm
L236[07:30:46] <Aim> RefinedStorage stock crafter http://tinyurl.com/y7k9929b
L237[07:31:31] <Izaya> I need to get around to rewriting my browser for KOS
L238[07:31:58] <Izaya> I want to add markdown parsing so hypertext actually works
L239[07:32:06] <Aim> cool
L240[07:32:25] <redgoblin88> recreate chrome, firefox or edge browser?
L241[07:32:31] <Izaya> none of the above
L242[07:32:38] <Izaya> those are all huge and obnoxiously complicated
L243[07:32:42] <Izaya> no client-side scripting
L244[07:32:45] <Izaya> no huge headers
L245[07:32:59] <Izaya> it's basically a gopher browser currently
L246[07:33:03] <Aim> I'm working on some kind of server/client system, so I can remote control functions, maybe KOS is handy for computers/tablets in the field
L247[07:33:54] <Aim> gopher browser, back to the beginning of the internet ?
L248[07:34:02] <Izaya> A better time.
L249[07:34:02] <Aim> or should I say arpanet
L250[07:34:16] <Izaya> Nah, Goper was around in the 90s
L251[07:34:22] <Izaya> created, rather
L252[07:34:30] <Izaya> a little before the internet was public-access
L253[07:34:45] <Izaya> so I guess it was kinda still ARPANET anyway
L254[07:34:45] <Aim> arpanet thus ?
L255[07:35:12] <redgoblin88> hmm how do i do touchscreen?
L256[07:36:01] <Izaya> https://ocdoc.cil.li/component:signals#screen
L257[07:36:08] <gerard> Btw, anyone tried OCJS yet?
L258[07:36:33] <Izaya> finally uploaded that stalker demo video
L259[07:36:37] <Izaya> https://pomf.pyonpyon.moe/yobmby.webm
L260[07:38:13] <Izaya> cinematic 15FPS
L261[07:44:44] <Alex404> uh lol stalker here
L262[08:01:29] <Alex404> I cannot find much about the "inventory driver" thats disabled in the config
L263[08:01:54] <Alex404> it says its overpowered and all, but after enabling, i dont find anything about it
L264[08:02:18] <Alex404> its an item? maybe removed in 1.12.2?
L265[08:02:22] <Izaya> I think you need to stick an adaptor next to an inventory
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L267[08:03:22] <Alex404> ah so it is? just an adaptor without an inventory upgrade?
L268[08:03:45] <Izaya> I think so
L269[08:06:09] <Alex404> good, thanks
L270[08:34:49] <S3> You know I just realized I don't need a VFS in my OS
L271[08:35:02] <S3> I just need a filesystem agent registry
L272[08:35:21] <S3> something where you register processes that handle filesystem data
L273[08:36:28] <Inari> Skye: Whats a DoKomi
L274[08:36:52] <Skye> Inari, it's an Anime Convention in Germany
L275[08:36:55] <Skye> Vic's at it
L276[08:37:36] <Inari> I see
L277[08:37:51] <Inari> Skye, my local Vic expert
L278[08:39:14] <Inari> %inv add erotic grizzle bear symphony
L279[08:39:14] * MichiBot summons 'erotic grizzle bear symphony' and adds to her inventory. This seems rather fragile...
L280[08:56:21] <S3> are they on unicycles?
L281[08:58:37] <Wuerfel_21> %choose laziness or c64 game or weird game or even more weired game
L282[08:58:37] <MichiBot> Wuerfel_21: even more weired game
L283[08:58:44] <Wuerfel_21> thx
L284[09:14:24] <S3> @Wuerfel_21 play Worms against me!
L285[09:17:06] <Wuerfel_21> ~~only have battle islands on the wii and armageddon on trash pcs without internet)
L286[09:17:10] <Wuerfel_21> only have battle islands on the wii and armageddon on trash pcs without internet) [Edited]
L287[09:58:32] <vifino> oof.
L288[09:58:58] <Wuerfel_21> foo
L289[09:59:30] <AmandaC> %choose world domination or peaceful search for meaning
L290[09:59:30] <MichiBot> AmandaC: peaceful search for meaning
L291[10:02:10] <AmandaC> %choose Dad of Boy or podcasts or tech talks
L292[10:02:10] <MichiBot> AmandaC: podcasts
L293[10:03:25] <vifino> Izaya: you got any microcontrollers?
L294[10:03:30] <vifino> real-life.
L295[10:03:45] <vifino> something like an stm32 or an esp8266
L296[10:03:50] <vifino> not avr.
L297[10:04:08] <vifino> msp430 could also work.
L298[10:04:43] <Izaya> only got an avr
L299[10:04:52] <vifino> ugh.
L300[10:05:17] <vifino> next time you order something from china, order some esp8266 and/or esp32 boards.
L301[10:05:26] <Izaya> esp8266 is v. cheap
L302[10:05:26] <vifino> and help me work around a huge makefile.
L303[10:05:41] <vifino> also buy some ws2812b led strips.
L304[10:05:41] <Izaya> I'll order one or two (or 5) next time I grab some shit
L305[10:05:48] <vifino> can't have enough of those.
L306[10:06:03] <vifino> you are going to build an led matrix, Izaya. :P
L307[10:06:24] <AmandaC> and then ship it to vifino
L308[10:06:40] <vifino> why?
L309[10:06:43] <vifino> i already got plenty.
L310[10:06:52] <vifino> huge ones, too.
L311[10:06:57] <vifino> 16k leds etc..
L312[10:06:57] * Izaya ships vifino a 9front CD instead
L313[10:07:08] <vifino> I already have 9front installed on a laptop.
L314[10:07:25] <Izaya> I found that DVD with a copy of solaris 10 from 2005 again
L315[10:07:41] <Izaya> soon my P4 box will have Haiku, 9front and Solaris installed on it
L316[10:09:06] <Izaya> it's too bad it's too new for OS/2
L317[10:09:28] <Izaya> vifino: what OS with OpenGL and NVIDIA GPU support should I put on my C2D box?
L318[10:09:34] <Izaya> linux and windows are not options
L319[10:10:08] <vifino> dunno
L320[10:10:15] <vifino> fbsd got an nvidia port.
L321[10:10:25] <Izaya> just more nix-like
L322[10:10:41] <vifino> ?
L323[10:10:52] <vifino> fbsd is a proper bsd.
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L325[10:11:10] <Izaya> I dunt want unix-like
L326[10:11:21] <Izaya> it works well but it's not much fun to play with compared to weirder shit
L327[10:13:16] <vifino> Izaya: buy some ws2812b led matrices on aliexpress, esp8266 devboards, a 15A 5V psu and soldering things
L328[10:13:44] <vifino> i might chip in, too
L329[10:14:22] <vifino> all you need to do is make my makefile work with someone else's project's makefile!
L330[10:14:44] * vifino hides, hopes Izaya takes the bait
L331[10:16:20] <vifino> (need to use esp-open-rtos, but it's makefile is a god damn mess. i have my own for my project, i just need the build artifacts of freertos and all the other things included in that project so i can do the final linking myself)
L332[10:21:38] <vifino> in unrelated news, my emacs now speaks discord rich status messages.
L333[10:23:04] <Izaya> disgusting
L334[10:23:06] <Izaya> for many reasons
L335[10:23:32] <vifino> https://i.imgur.com/QZsj8WE.png
L336[10:23:34] <vifino> i disagree
L337[10:23:57] <Izaya> do you think this is a fucking game
L338[10:24:02] <vifino> yes
L339[10:24:11] <Izaya> yeah okay
L340[10:24:17] <Izaya> in that case continue
L341[10:24:22] <Izaya> knowing emacs, it could be a game
L342[10:24:22] <vifino> that i will.
L343[10:24:33] <vifino> emacs is great.
L344[10:24:36] <Izaya> there's elisp tetris and such, right?
L345[10:24:39] <vifino> yes.
L346[10:24:41] <AmandaC> O.o
L347[10:24:42] <vifino> preinstalled.
L348[10:24:49] <Izaya> of course
L349[10:25:01] <vifino> of course.
L350[10:25:02] <Izaya> hey why do people bother with the rest of loonix userspace
L351[10:25:11] <Izaya> you could just run emacs as pid 1
L352[10:25:14] <vifino> emacs as pid 1.
L353[10:25:15] <vifino> yep.
L354[10:25:19] <vifino> i did that once.
L355[10:25:26] <Izaya> how was it?
L356[10:25:39] <vifino> surprisingly.. not as bad as i imagined.
L357[10:25:39] <Izaya> perhaps emacs as the kernel would be more interesting
L358[10:25:53] <Izaya> I'd try that more than I'd be interested in emacs-only loonix
L359[10:25:58] <vifino> had no X, of course.
L360[10:26:04] <vifino> but emacs in the console was okay.
L361[10:26:10] <vifino> terminal emulators are pretty good.
L362[10:26:21] <vifino> just had to up the speed of my tty to be usable.
L363[10:28:16] <vifino> Izaya: i'm still pretty happy about this.
L364[10:28:23] <vifino> it's so useless.
L365[10:28:47] <vifino> best part: i didn't even write it.
L366[10:28:51] <vifino> someone else legit wrote it.
L367[10:29:19] <vifino> surprisingly well done, too. you get different language icons for the different languages you write.
L368[10:29:27] <vifino> c, rust, etc..
L369[10:31:42] <Forecaster> %loot
L370[10:31:42] <MichiBot> Forecaster: You get a loot box! It contains a twig.
L371[10:31:51] <vifino> a twig? sounds like a good deal.
L372[10:32:06] <Forecaster> at least it's not a doorknob
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L374[10:33:53] <Izaya> free twig
L375[10:34:00] <Izaya> make it not free
L376[10:34:02] <vifino> #freetwig2018
L377[10:34:11] <Izaya> Forecaster: make lootboxes cost HP
L378[10:34:17] <vifino> oof.
L379[10:34:31] <Forecaster> there is no HP yet
L380[10:34:45] <Izaya> o-oh
L381[10:35:17] <vifino> that reminds me, i should implement an rpg in my scheme bot.
L382[10:35:27] <Wuerfel_21> Do any windows users here actually use libraries for their intended purpose? (that being the unification of multiple folders into one thingy) I, beyond messing around, don't and have never seen anyone do.
L383[10:35:49] <vifino> heh, windows.
L384[10:35:50] <Forecaster> I've never used libraries no
L385[10:36:43] <Izaya> I tried to at one point.
L386[10:37:11] <Izaya> It doesn't let me add a network location to them so they're zero use to me
L387[10:37:43] <Wuerfel_21> ouef
L388[10:37:45] <Wuerfel_21> Well, technically the example pictures come from %PUBLIC%\Pictures\
L389[10:39:42] <Forecaster> hm, my network drives are offline so I can't try...
L390[10:39:43] <Forecaster> :|
L391[10:40:10] <Izaya> that particular limitation is documented, unlike so many others
L392[10:40:26] <Forecaster> weird, it doesn't seem much different from quick access
L393[10:40:47] <Forecaster> you basically "pin" dirs in a library?
L394[10:41:06] <Wuerfel_21> %PUBLIC% is pretty useless, too. You'd assume some appdata would be stored there, but no, it isn't. Though it is useful as a user-writeable location on a machine with temporary user accounts (i.e. my schools PCs). I use that for my diy appstore/package manager
L395[10:42:20] <Izaya> it was a good idea
L396[10:42:47] <Izaya> wasn't followed up because you can't sell '$PUBLIC as a folder is useful' to customers though
L397[10:50:08] <Wuerfel_21> I find it quite strange that M$ throws out some of the stuff that is useful in specific situations (ex: MIDI mapper) and instead bundles loads of crapware and bloat that prob. takes some orders of magnitude more space.
L398[10:52:20] <Wuerfel_21> Or when they said they couldn't include space cadet pinball because they couldn't get it to compile agian, yet the binary still works fine on latest windows
L399[11:02:46] <Mimiru> thanks for that info @Wuerfel_21 I now have it again :D
L400[11:03:08] <Wuerfel_21> huhwat
L401[11:03:16] <Mimiru> pinball
L402[11:03:20] <Mimiru> on W10
L403[11:03:31] <Wuerfel_21> cool and good
L404[11:04:10] <Wuerfel_21> btw, there's actually more tables in the commercial version, "full tilt pinball"
L405[11:06:45] <Forecaster> %inv list
L406[11:06:45] <MichiBot> Forecaster: Here's my inventory: http://michibot.pc-logix.com/inventory
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L408[11:07:49] * Saphire sits on Temia
L409[11:22:22] <Metafield> Anyone know what would cause `make` to give a 'no rule to make target` error on Linux?
L410[11:22:38] <Izaya> not telling it what to make
L411[11:22:40] <Izaya> try make install
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L413[12:19:05] <gamax92> make better life choices
L414[12:20:15] <AmandaC> make: No rule to make target 'better'. Stop
L415[12:21:15] <Mimiru> gamax92!
L416[12:21:17] <gamax92> Ahh I just realize I haven't tried to do PS2 emulation since I got my new computer
L417[12:21:25] <gamax92> Hey Mimiru
L418[12:21:30] <Mimiru> Hai
L419[12:23:54] <gamax92> I wish quassel would consolidate day change messages
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L421[12:35:25] <AmandaC> %choose code or play
L422[12:35:25] <MichiBot> AmandaC: code
L423[12:37:17] <AmandaC> %choose code or play or anime
L424[12:37:17] <MichiBot> AmandaC: anime
L425[13:08:29] * Temia blinkblinks. has a durgon. o-o
L426[13:08:32] * Temia patpats Saph
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L429[13:38:22] <CntKillMe> hey /dev/zero should be added to openos
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L432[13:51:17] <vifino> omg gamax92!!
L433[13:51:23] <vifino> how are you? :D
L434[13:58:09] <Inari> https://twitter.com/CuteAnimeGirls_/status/998271985170841600 cute
L435[13:58:10] <MichiBot> Sun May 20 13:39:22 CDT 2018 @CuteAnimeGirls_: https://t.co/Otok4CC8sk
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L440[14:20:41] <Alex404> sorry to bother. I'm trying to make =component.name list readable and i've tried this method: serialization.serialize()
L441[14:20:55] <Alex404> but the result is not much readable
L442[14:21:56] <Alex404> because it seems it prints \n instead of adding a new line
L443[14:22:27] <Alex404> is there a way around it?
L444[14:22:39] <AmandaC> from the shell run `components -l name` instead
L445[14:23:06] <Alex404> oh, ok
L446[14:23:13] <AmandaC> If it's too long do someting like `components -l name >component-name.txt` to dump it to a text file for easier reading
L447[14:24:54] <Alex404> doing that gives me a malformed number when I try to open it
L448[14:25:15] <AmandaC> malformed number? O.o
L449[14:25:21] <AmandaC> what component are you trying to view?
L450[14:25:34] <Alex404> components -l gpu >gpu.txt
L451[14:25:34] <AmandaC> and what version of MC/OC
L452[14:25:44] <AmandaC> oh wait, it might not be -l
L453[14:26:02] <Alex404> simply components -l gpu works, tho
L454[14:26:39] <AmandaC> What version of OpenOS?/
L455[14:27:07] <AmandaC> That sounds like a bug in OpenOS
L456[14:27:10] <Alex404> 1.7.2
L457[14:27:27] <Mimiru> edit gpu.txt returns malformed number?
L458[14:28:09] <Alex404> wait
L459[14:28:10] <Alex404> it works now
L460[14:28:19] <Alex404> ...
L461[14:28:23] <Alex404> ok
L462[14:28:35] <Alex404> cannot reproduce, I have restarted the pc
L463[14:28:52] <AmandaC> Something probably corrupted a global
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L465[14:42:26] <Inari> I should get a pinterest
L466[14:45:30] <CompanionCube> no
L467[14:45:33] <CompanionCube> pinterest is bad
L468[14:45:45] <Inari> Why?
L469[14:52:17] <Inari> And whats the proposed alternative to explore topics you like and get more suggestions that fit you and such :D
L470[15:12:16] <Forecaster> I hate pintrest
L471[15:12:41] <Forecaster> whenever I do a reverse image search there's a million of useless hits from pintrest of the same image
L472[15:18:24] <Skye> ^
L473[15:21:21] <CompanionCube> also they still nag you about logging in every time
L474[15:21:26] <CompanionCube> fucking annoying
L475[15:21:40] <Forecaster> yeah
L476[15:22:06] <Inari> Not if you're logged in ;D
L477[15:22:12] <Inari> And I guess, doesn't make it worse a thing to use though
L478[15:23:33] <Forecaster> I wish nobody used it so it dies.
L479[15:23:57] <Forecaster> I don't hate the idea, I hate the execution
L480[15:24:15] <Wuerfel_21> ^^
L481[15:24:38] <Wuerfel_21> Any site that forces you to login for no reason is shit
L482[15:25:01] <Forecaster> if it wasn't for it flooding google with images I would never notice it and I'd be fine with that.
L483[15:25:14] <Wuerfel_21> Or, in other news, is it usual for a PC to hard reset while trying to load vrchat? >.>
L484[15:25:40] <CompanionCube> hard reset? no.
L485[15:25:44] <Forecaster> if a computer suddenly reboots it's usually due to overheating or running out of memory or something
L486[15:25:55] <Forecaster> or maybe power
L487[15:26:03] <CompanionCube> or shit went horribly wrong and it decided to reset
L488[15:27:00] <Wuerfel_21> That reminds me: OC computers lack reset and turbo buttons
L489[15:28:16] <payonel> turbo makes no sense in oc. turbo was added to allow new processors to run in two modes, as a lot of software was written at the time whose interface refresh and behavior was hardcoded to the clock rate
L490[15:29:15] <Wuerfel_21> That doesn't matter, it's about having a button that says turbo
L491[15:29:29] <Wuerfel_21> Because that's rad
L492[15:29:39] <Forecaster> good luck fitting that on the texture :P
L493[15:29:52] <AmandaC> maybe what it should do instead is cause key presses to repeat stupid-fast
L494[15:30:15] <AmandaC> type a letter, 10,000 key_up key_down events are sent immediately
L495[15:30:36] <Wuerfel_21> Or actually speed something up at the cost of higher power consumption?
L496[15:35:21] <Lizzian> except the "turbo" button never made it faster, it actually did the opposit in fact (for reason why, see payonel's message above)
L497[15:46:12] <Wuerfel_21> i know
L498[15:47:27] <Wuerfel_21> (inexplicably, the only computer that i own that has such a button doesn't have it hooked up)
L499[15:58:38] <MGR> %choose a or b
L500[15:58:38] <MichiBot> MGR: b
L501[15:58:49] <MGR> ugh fine
L502[16:04:59] <Wuerfel_21> Ok, my laptop is definitly overheating. Gotta clean that bugger tomorrow
L503[16:08:10] <Wuerfel_21> I really need a new PC anyways. two cores and 8 gigs of RAM are suprisingly little these days.
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L506[16:19:14] <Wuerfel_21> Dust. http://tinyurl.com/y92ub7zm
L507[16:25:09] <Forecaster> hey I was right :P
L508[16:25:52] <Wuerfel_21> I think using the board as part of the fan housing is a pretty interesting design choice
L509[16:25:55] <S3> @Wuerfel_21 I once dragged out a giant dirt bunny shit the size of a dogs out of those
L510[16:26:03] <S3> it was wrapped around the outside of the fan under the cover
L511[16:26:20] <S3> it was overheating like crazy
L512[16:27:30] <S3> what is that green thing?
L513[16:27:45] <Wuerfel_21> Well, the actual sink the air gets blown through is pretty clogged. But it's a little too late to turn the vacuum on.
L514[16:27:55] <Wuerfel_21> That green thing? Oink!
L515[16:28:30] <Wuerfel_21> An piggu http://tinyurl.com/y7hktzeq
L516[16:31:55] <Wuerfel_21> It **protecc** my precious windows license
L517[16:33:37] <Wuerfel_21> I just noticed that my cpu appears to be socketed... i wonder if i can upgrade it...
L518[16:33:54] <MGR> If it's 4th gen, you can
L519[16:36:23] <Wuerfel_21> this is sandy bridge, matey. Were we are going, there is no 4th gen.
L520[16:38:23] <MGR> Hmmm
L521[16:38:41] <MGR> CPU model #?
L522[16:50:40] <Izaya> Well, if my sandy bridge i5 in my laptop can go up to an ivy bridge i7...
L523[16:51:31] <Izaya> A quad-core one no less
L524[16:53:18] <Wuerfel_21> Dunno the model number, can look it up tomorow
L525[16:56:37] <Wuerfel_21> I know its a dual core i5 at 2.4 (or 2.5?) GHz
L526[16:58:41] <redgoblin88> For a second I thought that was a phone but thought "why is there s can in a phone... Why is there so much open space?!
L527[17:01:30] <Wuerfel_21> I guess it is a 2430M
L528[17:01:44] <Izaya> also, thank you for bringing it to my attention that I still haven't cleaned the heatsink in my T420 x_x
L529[17:02:04] <Wuerfel_21> Could also be a 2435M
L530[17:02:49] <Izaya> tfw 2520m
L531[17:04:03] <Izaya> it's kinda funny my laptop and desktop CPU - an i3 4160 - are basically at the same spot as far as performance goes
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L533[17:09:28] <Wuerfel_21> Apparently, i could even plop in a 3rd gen cpu if the bios supports it.
L534[17:09:50] <Izaya> yup
L535[17:10:01] <Izaya> Hope your laptop supports coreboot :D
L536[17:11:02] <Wuerfel_21> Altough a RAM upgrade or a faster disk would make a bigger difference, i think
L537[17:11:31] <MGR> SSD would make the biggest difference by far
L538[17:12:19] <Izaya> ^
L539[17:12:26] <Izaya> SSD OP
L540[17:12:28] <Wuerfel_21> Eh, file access is plenty fast, unless the ram is full and it starts paging
L541[17:12:32] <Izaya> replace the optical drive
L542[17:13:52] <Wuerfel_21> Hey, I need that to burn CDs (even though it's broken, making it a literal write-only memory)
L543[17:14:58] <Izaya> use the msata slot then
L544[17:15:33] <Wuerfel_21> Something with the motor i'appears guffed up, it can read discs when i spin them by hand and then slam it shut
L545[17:15:52] <Izaya> ah it doesn't start spinning
L546[17:16:51] <Wuerfel_21> Have seen that a couple of times, seems to be somewhat common
L547[17:17:37] <Wuerfel_21> But not as common as the magical sudden death syndrome, where they just die completly because reasons
L548[17:18:08] * Izaya has never experienced it
L549[17:18:21] <Izaya> I have a few desktop 5.25" drives that don't open properly
L550[17:19:05] <Izaya> at one point I had 5 DVD burners in my desktop
L551[17:23:10] <Izaya> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SxoI--xIdM
L552[17:23:11] <MichiBot> Staples SCAMS customers: NEVER let TekDry near your laptop or cellphone! | length: 9m 23s | Likes: 6,061 Dislikes: 154 Views: 119,923 | by Louis Rossmann | Published On 19/5/2018
L553[17:28:48] <Wuerfel_21> Louis is god tier
L554[17:47:11] <Wuerfel_21> https://youtu.be/A_vpfBJZ7JI
L555[17:47:12] <MichiBot> Restoration - The Worst VIC-20 I've ever seen - Part 1 | length: 18m 47s | Likes: 8,172 Dislikes: 61 Views: 74,520 | by The 8-Bit Guy | Published On 20/5/2018
L556[17:51:46] <pwootage> Alright I'm *finally* getting back to working on the js/v8 architecture I was working on
L557[17:52:01] <pwootage> I've missed this stuff
L558[17:52:19] <Izaya> whoa hey pwootage
L559[17:52:24] <Izaya> been a while
L560[17:52:29] <pwootage> No kidding
L561[17:52:54] <pwootage> 6 months if my git history is anything to go by
L562[17:53:15] <Izaya> Definitely a while
L563[17:53:49] <pwootage> Luckily this time all the hard stuff is done, so I just need to write a simulator and OS
L564[17:54:41] <Izaya> Nice?
L565[17:56:18] <pwootage> I mean, the simulator is easy thanks to Node, and OS dev is fun
L566[17:57:26] * Izaya nods
L567[17:58:01] <Izaya> My latest OS-related project managed to fit an ANSI terminal emulator, a network stack and a lua prompt into one EEPROM
L568[17:58:21] <pwootage> That's pretty impressive, 4096 bytes isn't a lot to work with
L569[18:06:16] <Izaya> https://paste.pc-logix.com/raw/ehixokitop
L570[18:12:09] <pwootage> I'm going to have to try that out
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L572[19:18:48] <Izaya> ~w event
L573[19:18:48] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/api:event
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L579[20:11:57] <AmandaC> %choose listen and play or just play or just listen
L580[20:11:57] <MichiBot> AmandaC: just play
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L586[20:49:03] <AmandaC> ... Izaya's steam profile pic looked like a stylised photo of a controller to my brain for some reason.
L587[21:02:15] <AmandaC> %tell Inari found your spirit animal https://i.imgur.com/qDEKP6C.png
L588[21:02:15] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Inari will be notified of this message when next seen.
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