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L1[00:28:27] <payonel> @status @"Smexy Snek"
L2[00:28:27] <Discord> Smexy Snek is currently IDLE
L3[00:28:39] <Smexy Snek> Wha?
L4[00:30:15] <payonel> @logan2611 openos multitasking is crude and multiuser is missing because memory, performance, and a long history of existing api that i can't(shouldn't) break
L5[00:30:31] <payonel> smexy - i recommend you use the table option for term.read
L6[00:30:36] <payonel> term.read({ops...})
L7[00:30:43] <Smexy Snek> I already used the other one
L8[00:30:46] <payonel> what, specifically, were you trying to do?
L9[00:30:54] <Smexy Snek> Password lock a computer
L10[00:30:58] <Smexy Snek> I solved it already :3
L11[00:31:04] <payonel> term.read({pwchar="*"}) ?
L12[00:31:15] <payonel> smexy: yes, but, i'm the openos dev so i have my opinions :)
L13[00:31:24] <Smexy Snek> Ooooh
L14[00:31:26] <Smexy Snek> Makes sense
L15[00:31:30] <Smexy Snek> Thanks ?
L16[00:31:36] <Smexy Snek> Can I suggest something?
L17[00:31:39] <payonel> sure
L18[00:31:47] <Smexy Snek> Add something to be able to adjust text size
L19[00:31:52] <Smexy Snek> It's annoying only having that one font size.
L20[00:32:05] <payonel> that's quite outside the plans for oc
L21[00:32:13] <Smexy Snek> -Sigh- Alright.
L22[00:32:58] <payonel> you can set the resolution of your screen
L23[00:33:08] <Smexy Snek> That does very little
L24[00:33:14] <payonel> but, you probably want different font sizes on the same screen
L25[00:33:25] <Smexy Snek> And that too
L26[00:33:28] <Smexy Snek> Ill just use CC.
L27[00:33:35] <payonel> "and" that too?
L28[00:33:48] <payonel> changing res does everything else
L29[00:33:49] <Smexy Snek> Adjusting reso does barely anything as well as I want it on the same screen
L30[00:34:21] <payonel> assuming you are okay with the font all the same size, you can make your font anysize with resolution
L31[00:34:29] ⇦ Quits: UnRealDinnerbone (UnRealDinnerbone!uid60473@id-60473.ealing.irccloud.com) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
L32[00:34:50] <Smexy Snek> Three monitor blocks together
L33[00:34:59] <Smexy Snek> Decreasing reso would make it so that two of the woul remain unused
L34[00:35:39] <payonel> nope
L35[00:35:42] <Smexy Snek> As stated earlier Ill use CC for fancy signs n stuff
L36[00:35:48] <Smexy Snek> Because OC is too complicated for that XD
L37[00:35:53] <payonel> just change the resolution to an aspect ratio for the 3x1 setup
L38[00:37:32] <Izaya> ^
L39[00:38:46] <logan2611> payonel, I understand the issues thatsurround adding the features I mentioned, thats why I am making a custom OS for it
L40[00:39:04] <Izaya> 6 wide 1 tall will fill a 3x1 screen
L41[00:39:17] <Smexy Snek> I have another thing, what happens if you want some text bigger than other?
L42[00:39:20] <Smexy Snek> I have another thing, what happens if you want some text bigger than other text? [Edited]
L43[00:39:25] <Smexy Snek> Then you're screwed.
L44[00:39:35] <payonel> yes, we've established that
L45[00:39:41] <payonel> i agree, that we cannot do
L46[00:39:53] <Smexy Snek> Is there issues with implimenting it?
L47[00:39:58] <Smexy Snek> implementing*
L48[00:40:11] <Smexy Snek> Like would it cause a ton more issues than it'd solve?
L49[00:40:15] <Smexy Snek> Then I'd understand not adding it.
L50[00:40:16] ⇨ Joins: montyqe (montyqe!~nqxhd@186.213.34.24)
L51[00:40:27] <Izaya> There's a lib for large fonts on the forums
L52[00:40:48] <payonel> the text we render to the screen is communicated via a string of chars
L53[00:41:08] <Smexy Snek> Alright, Ill just use CC (as stated before) for fancy signs n stuff
L54[00:41:09] <ben_mkiv> payonel, even tho for tier2+ screens?
L55[00:41:12] <payonel> it only represents the codepoints, and the glyphs that are rendered are indexed by those codepoints
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L58[00:41:21] <ben_mkiv> as it seems like they cant be integrated to other mods with the api
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L60[00:41:27] <Smexy Snek> ....
L61[00:41:32] <A_D> ..
L62[00:41:41] <Smexy Snek> Rt
L63[00:41:42] <Smexy Snek> Errr
L64[00:41:43] <Smexy Snek> Anyways...
L65[00:41:47] <A_D> oh fucking l0de
L66[00:41:54] <Smexy Snek> As stated earlier Ill use CC for signs n stuff
L67[00:41:58] <Smexy Snek> And use OC for more serious things
L68[00:42:10] * Izaya squints
L69[00:42:16] <Smexy Snek> Unless they're not compatible mods with each other then I cant XD
L70[00:42:23] <Izaya> CC does different size fonts?
L71[00:42:31] <Smexy Snek> term.setTextSize
L72[00:42:52] <Smexy Snek> I believe that's it.
L73[00:42:52] <Izaya> And that co-exists with smaller fonts on the same screen?
L74[00:42:56] <Smexy Snek> Yup.
L75[00:43:00] <Izaya> Huh.
L76[00:43:02] <Izaya> TIL.
L77[00:43:07] <payonel> ben_mkiv: ?
L78[00:43:08] <Smexy Snek> "Cheaty Computers" my ass
L79[00:43:09] <Smexy Snek> XD
L80[00:43:13] <Izaya> That wasn't there when I last used it :D
L81[00:43:20] <Smexy Snek> People call CC cheaty computers
L82[00:43:24] <Izaya> Yup.
L83[00:43:29] <Smexy Snek> Then they must've implemented it
L84[00:43:40] <payonel> ben_mkiv: regardless of the screen tier
L85[00:43:49] <Izaya> 7 stone, one glass pane and one redstone gives you a computer with unlimited processing power.
L86[00:43:52] <payonel> the data stored is just a string of codepoints and bg/fg color
L87[00:43:54] <Smexy Snek> Oooh no it's monitor.setTextScale
L88[00:44:07] <payonel> and updates are passed based on that
L89[00:44:13] <ben_mkiv> hmm, gonna have to look into that again, but im pretty sure it didnt work with tier2 screen
L90[00:44:23] <payonel> and i have a fonts table of all the glyphs, for translation from codepoints
L91[00:44:30] <Smexy Snek> Well yeha
L92[00:44:34] <Smexy Snek> The crafting recipes are dumb
L93[00:44:34] <payonel> ben_mkiv: sorry? i dont understand
L94[00:44:51] <Smexy Snek> But at least it's simpler to use than having to set the entire screen reso just to change font size.
L95[00:44:58] <Izaya> I imagine both can only display one size of font on a screen
L96[00:45:00] <Izaya> How tho
L97[00:45:02] <Smexy Snek> No offense.
L98[00:45:07] <Smexy Snek> monitor.setTextScale
L99[00:45:43] <Smexy Snek> Message contained 4 or more newlines and was pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/rimojabubo
L100[00:45:52] <Izaya> gpu.setResolution(textlen, 1)
L101[00:46:14] <Smexy Snek> Well then I looked to hell and back and couldn't find it.
L102[00:46:25] <Smexy Snek> That sets text scale?
L103[00:46:25] <Izaya> gpu.set(1,1,text)
L104[00:46:32] <Izaya> That sets resolution.
L105[00:46:36] <payonel> smexy: it changes the resolution ---
L106[00:46:36] <Smexy Snek> Again
L107[00:46:37] <Izaya> Text will fill a screen.
L108[00:46:42] <payonel> seriously, what did you think we're talkinga bout
L109[00:46:51] <Izaya> It says resolution for a reason.
L110[00:47:01] <Smexy Snek> I'd rather be able to set separate text to separate sizes
L111[00:47:06] <Smexy Snek> Rather than having one set scale
L112[00:47:06] <Smexy Snek> Lol
L113[00:47:08] <ben_mkiv> payonel, like screens above tier1 arent even accepted for upgradeslots
L114[00:47:35] <payonel> ben_mkiv: correct. did i say something that contradicts that? (perhaps on accident)
L115[00:47:41] <Izaya> So that works?
L116[00:48:02] <payonel> smexy: yes, and there are two issues 1. different font sizes on one screen, and 2. changing font sizes
L117[00:48:03] <Izaya> Man, can I have a look at the different text scales? I should look into that.
L118[00:48:13] <payonel> we all agree you can't do 1. but you absolutely can do 2.
L119[00:48:38] <Smexy Snek> Message contained 4 or more newlines and was pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/dilisoyuno
L120[00:48:48] <ben_mkiv> no payonel, im just curious why that is
L121[00:48:53] <Izaya> Care to take a screenshot of a screen with different font sizes?
L122[00:49:07] <Smexy Snek> I dont have the mod rn.
L123[00:49:13] <Smexy Snek> I shall get it.
L124[00:49:14] <payonel> ben_mkiv: ah, balance? for the feels? it was decided before my time
L125[00:49:23] <Izaya> I'm on a phone presently :p
L126[00:50:30] <Smexy Snek> Alright starting Minecraft
L127[00:50:38] <Smexy Snek> Keep in mind Im on my mac because my PC is being a piece of nugget.
L128[00:55:48] <Smexy Snek> Hm
L129[00:55:59] <Smexy Snek> I was incorrect. I apologize for my ignorance :3
L130[00:56:18] <Smexy Snek> Tho it still is easier to set text size in CC than it is in OC. My point still stands XD
L131[00:56:25] <Smexy Snek> Even if it does have a crutch
L132[00:57:03] <Kodos> What channel mode is it that only registered people can talk
L133[00:57:11] <Kodos> r, right?
L134[00:57:43] <Smexy Snek> Are you wanting me to stop talking?
L135[00:57:43] <Izaya> https://oc.cil.li/index.php?/topic/1415-pseudo-big-font-library/
L136[00:58:11] <Smexy Snek> Well thanks ?
L137[00:58:15] <Smexy Snek> Ill use that in the future.
L138[00:58:20] <Smexy Snek> Ill stop talking now :3
L139[00:58:25] <Izaya> Corded is a registered user so that wouldn't work anyway.
L140[00:58:32] <Smexy Snek> Again, I'm sorry for my ignorance
L141[00:58:44] <logan2611> OC>CC
L142[00:58:48] <Smexy Snek> Sometimes.
L143[00:58:51] <logan2611> always
L144[00:58:57] <Smexy Snek> I still like some features of CC
L145[00:59:10] <logan2611> like whaqtr
L146[00:59:12] <logan2611> like what [Edited]
L147[00:59:18] <Smexy Snek> Like how I dont have to do local t = require("term") everytime I want to do term.clear()
L148[00:59:28] <logan2611> dont use local then
L149[00:59:38] <Smexy Snek> If I don't the code decides to fuck itself and get mad at me.
L150[00:59:46] <logan2611> thats not how it works
L151[00:59:53] <Forecaster> that's because OC uses real Lua
L152[00:59:55] <Smexy Snek> I got a BSOD last time.
L153[00:59:56] <Forecaster> that's how Lua works
L154[01:00:12] <Smexy Snek> When I didn't use local I got a BSOD
L155[01:00:28] <payonel> uh, no
L156[01:00:29] <Smexy Snek> "Not enough memory" I was on a server with all T3.5 chips of memory xD
L157[01:00:34] <payonel> you'd geta stack trace to stderr
L158[01:00:50] <Smexy Snek> Er..... So what I saw didn't exist?
L159[01:00:59] <Smexy Snek> Coulda been something else I guess.
L160[01:01:04] <payonel> if you use up your memory, yes, your system will halt
L161[01:01:14] <Smexy Snek> Well I don't know what used it up
L162[01:01:15] <Smexy Snek> xD
L163[01:01:19] <payonel> but that's not from indexing nils
L164[01:01:32] <Smexy Snek> How do you use too much memory?
L165[01:01:36] <Smexy Snek> That's my question
L166[01:01:44] <Smexy Snek> I want to purposefully overload my server and I want to know how lol
L167[01:01:50] <logan2611> in what way
L168[01:01:57] <Smexy Snek> How do I get the "Not enough memory" BSOD./
L169[01:01:58] <Smexy Snek> How do I get the "Not enough memory" BSOD. [Edited]
L170[01:02:03] <Smexy Snek> Purposefully.
L171[01:02:05] <Kodos> @Smexy Snek, no there's a bot going around to different channels, I was going to edit my channel accordingly
L172[01:02:07] <logan2611> make an array that constantly adds shit to itself
L173[01:02:11] <Izaya> Use less memory
L174[01:02:14] <Izaya> Oh
L175[01:02:19] <Smexy Snek> I want the BSOD XD
L176[01:02:28] <Smexy Snek> Also, that's terrible advice if I were asking how to use less.
L177[01:02:30] <logan2611> an easier way is to just uninstall your memory
L178[01:02:44] <Smexy Snek> But I want to have something that overloads itself without uninstalling RAM.
L179[01:02:47] <Smexy Snek> Program wise.
L180[01:02:51] <logan2611> it exists
L181[01:02:58] <logan2611> even practically
L182[01:02:59] <payonel> just make a table and add to it in a loop
L183[01:03:06] <Smexy Snek> I got a BSOD trying to install the OS with the T1 Memory
L184[01:03:06] <Smexy Snek> XD
L185[01:03:16] <logan2611> you need T1.5 to use OpenOS
L186[01:03:21] <logan2611> at least
L187[01:03:22] <Smexy Snek> Yeah I realized that.
L188[01:03:24] <payonel> logan not true
L189[01:03:32] <payonel> well, define "use" :)
L190[01:03:39] <Smexy Snek> It booting.
L191[01:03:41] <Smexy Snek> Period
L192[01:03:41] <payonel> i've worked very hard to make openos run on T1
L193[01:03:50] <payonel> oh DEFINITELY works on t1
L194[01:03:58] <logan2611> use as in it boots and can run programs
L195[01:03:59] <Izaya> T1 is fine
L196[01:03:59] <Smexy Snek> I tried INSTALLING it on T1 and it gave me a BSOD.
L197[01:04:14] <payonel> smexy: on older versions of oc, yes
L198[01:04:17] <Smexy Snek> So instead of one T1 chip I used 2.
L199[01:04:19] <payonel> on 1.7.2 definitely works on t1
L200[01:04:21] <Smexy Snek> Im runnin 1.12.
L201[01:04:30] <payonel> i'm not talking about mc version
L202[01:04:45] <Smexy Snek> Well Im running the newest version of the mod as well.
L203[01:04:50] <payonel> in 1.7.2 openos is down to ~132k ram allocation
L204[01:05:03] <payonel> + to boot
L205[01:05:06] <Smexy Snek> Idk why Im arguing with the dev.
L206[01:05:08] <Smexy Snek> XD
L207[01:05:23] <Smexy Snek> There's no point XDD
L208[01:05:24] <payonel> well, even "Tab complete" will suck up another ... 30k?
L209[01:05:46] <payonel> so that's why i asked to define "use"
L210[01:05:53] <Smexy Snek> Well I got to the point where it was installing /home/.shrc/ and it crashed.
L211[01:06:07] <payonel> you might have tab completed before installing :)
L212[01:06:08] <payonel> haha
L213[01:06:10] <payonel> but yeah
L214[01:06:21] <payonel> it boots with as little as possible
L215[01:06:24] <Smexy Snek> OH Payonel.
L216[01:06:25] <S3> phew. too much m for one night
L217[01:06:29] <Smexy Snek> My favorite thing about your mod.
L218[01:06:42] <Smexy Snek> Is the RAID drives. I love making a trillion of them and booting a server
L219[01:06:48] <Smexy Snek> And watching a whole bunch of flashy lights.
L220[01:06:48] <payonel> heh
L221[01:06:55] <payonel> yeah i like that, too
L222[01:07:12] <Smexy Snek> I want to be able to make it where the server makes the hard drives move with just like, a line of code
L223[01:07:20] <Smexy Snek> To make it seem like the server is doing something when its not.
L224[01:07:21] <Smexy Snek> XD
L225[01:07:24] <S3> mc*
L226[01:07:30] <payonel> Izaya: clever they used font mapping like that
L227[01:07:59] <S3> @smexy snek Well you should try RAID in unmanaged mode!
L228[01:08:06] <Smexy Snek> Omg
L229[01:08:08] <Smexy Snek> Does that...
L230[01:08:12] <Smexy Snek> Does that do more flashy lights..
L231[01:08:31] <Smexy Snek> I NEED FLASHY LIGHTS TO SURVIVE
L232[01:08:34] <S3> I'm not sure if it even works for one
L233[01:08:43] <Forecaster> you could also just use the light thingy from computronicks
L234[01:08:45] <S3> but if it does, if you're a skilled programmer it is nice..
L235[01:08:53] <logan2611> tape drives are cool
L236[01:08:56] <Smexy Snek> EW
L237[01:09:00] <Smexy Snek> FLOPPY DISKS
L238[01:09:02] <Smexy Snek> I mena
L239[01:09:04] <Forecaster> Light Board
L240[01:09:05] <Smexy Snek> I mean [Edited]
L241[01:09:06] <Smexy Snek> Yay
L242[01:09:11] <logan2611> also raids work in unmanaged mode
L243[01:09:15] <Smexy Snek> Oh.
L244[01:09:23] <Smexy Snek> I also love the sound of the HDD's.
L245[01:09:27] <S3> @smexy snek you don't like tape drives?
L246[01:09:28] <Smexy Snek> You did a good job man.
L247[01:09:30] <Smexy Snek> I do.
L248[01:09:31] <Smexy Snek> But
L249[01:09:32] <Smexy Snek> Not IRL.
L250[01:09:37] <S3> Why not?
L251[01:09:43] <Smexy Snek> I lived near the end of the age of Tape Drives.
L252[01:09:48] <Smexy Snek> Where HDD's were becoming a thing
L253[01:09:58] <S3> I still use audio casette tapes to save my files on my computer.
L254[01:10:01] <S3> ^^
L255[01:10:06] <Izaya> Data tapes are nice
L256[01:10:10] <Smexy Snek> I use the souls of the innocent.
L257[01:10:11] <Smexy Snek> What?
L258[01:10:24] <payonel> the guilty have greater bit density
L259[01:10:26] <Izaya> Few TB on one tape for cheap
L260[01:10:39] <Smexy Snek> Well the innocent are faster read/write.
L261[01:10:40] <Izaya> The real expense is the drives
L262[01:10:43] <S3> yeah they make massive tapes now
L263[01:10:47] <payonel> though they tend to be corrupted
L264[01:10:52] <payonel> ba dum csh!
L265[01:10:58] <Smexy Snek> Wa wa wa waaaaaaa
L266[01:11:23] <S3> payonel: with a nice tape you have enough to store parity + error correction
L267[01:11:37] <S3> "D
L268[01:11:39] <Smexy Snek> I have something but Idk how to explain it
L269[01:11:44] <Smexy Snek> Will you guys bear with me for a minute?
L270[01:11:52] <S3> error correction for up to 2 bits is nice
L271[01:12:10] <Smexy Snek> So... I want to be able to run 3 server mobos as if they were one.
L272[01:12:13] <Smexy Snek> Ya know what I mean?
L273[01:12:16] <Smexy Snek> Like my school does that.
L274[01:12:21] <Smexy Snek> But it's slow af.
L275[01:12:33] <Smexy Snek> It'd just be cool.
L276[01:12:46] <Smexy Snek> Plus more flashy lights. That's a bonus
L277[01:12:56] <Forecaster> you can do that
L278[01:13:03] <Smexy Snek> -Slaps Forecaster- WHAT?!
L279[01:13:04] * S3 turns the lights off
L280[01:13:05] <Forecaster> you just have to write the code to have them cooperate
L281[01:13:07] <Izaya> ^ another reason I do a custom OS
L282[01:13:11] <Izaya> Clustering
L283[01:13:16] <Smexy Snek> -Slaps S3- IM SCARED OF THE DARK
L284[01:13:19] <Smexy Snek> MY MOTHER LIVES THERE
L285[01:13:20] <Corded> * <logan2611> adds to planned features list
L286[01:13:34] <S3> Izaya: S3BX is going to be really great for clustering!
L287[01:13:48] <S3> because it wont give a shit if a procress is on one machine or another
L288[01:14:02] <logan2611> that could be an assload of machies
L289[01:14:04] <logan2611> that could be an assload of machines [Edited]
L290[01:14:04] <Smexy Snek> Im so ADHD rn.
L291[01:14:08] <Izaya> Can I use it yet?
L292[01:14:15] <Smexy Snek> I keep turning on and off my server racks so I can see all the RAID drives go crazy
L293[01:14:29] <Smexy Snek> Omg... payonel...
L294[01:14:32] <Smexy Snek> I have a suggestion
L295[01:14:32] <S3> s/machines/assloads/
L296[01:14:32] <MichiBot> <logan2611> that could be an assload of assloads [Edited]
L297[01:14:48] <Smexy Snek> This may not be a good suggestion
L298[01:14:53] <Smexy Snek> But it is indeed a suggestion
L299[01:15:09] <logan2611> what if you daisy chained computers instead of connecting them together directly
L300[01:15:12] <logan2611> ?
L301[01:15:17] <Smexy Snek> The HDD's wear out over power cycles and just over time like IRL
L302[01:15:27] <Smexy Snek> So over time you have to backup your shit onto another drive before the one you're using dies.
L303[01:15:38] <S3> wait the HDDs in OC wear out?
L304[01:15:47] <ben_mkiv> they dont...
L305[01:15:49] <S3> lol
L306[01:15:50] <ben_mkiv> why would you want to simulae it?
L307[01:15:55] <Smexy Snek> IT WOULD BE AWESOME
L308[01:15:58] <S3> I was gong to say
L309[01:16:00] <Smexy Snek> Like, everything has it's own life.
L310[01:16:03] <Smexy Snek> Like IRL.
L311[01:16:04] <ben_mkiv> your real hdd wears out, thats enough xD
L312[01:16:08] <Smexy Snek> Stuff wears out.
L313[01:16:17] <Forecaster> that just sounds annoying :P
L314[01:16:25] <Smexy Snek> lua is annoying
L315[01:16:28] <ben_mkiv> yea some ibm deathstars for you
L316[01:16:30] <Smexy Snek> Why cant the parts be to run it
L317[01:16:31] <S3> It would be hard to properly emulate disk wear on an OC managed filesystem drive
L318[01:16:32] <Izaya> If you want to simulate that
L319[01:16:43] <S3> it would however be easy to emulate it on an unmanaged drive
L320[01:16:52] <Forecaster> if you already think OC is annoying why would you want to make it more annoying
L321[01:16:58] <Smexy Snek> BECAUSE
L322[01:17:01] <Smexy Snek> I LIKE TORTURING MYSELF
L323[01:17:06] <Smexy Snek> Thayt
L324[01:17:07] <Smexy Snek> That [Edited]
L325[01:17:10] <Smexy Snek> Sounds strange
L326[01:17:15] <Forecaster> well it's not going to happen
L327[01:17:16] <Forecaster> :P
L328[01:17:18] <Izaya> Just have something constantly rewriting a file on your disk
L329[01:17:19] <Smexy Snek> OR
L330[01:17:20] <Smexy Snek> OR
L331[01:17:20] <Smexy Snek> OR
L332[01:17:26] <Izaya> Wear out your own storage
L333[01:17:38] <S3> wat a minute
L334[01:17:47] <S3> OC disks do have lifetime and do wear out
L335[01:17:54] <S3> they exist on sectors on real hard disks
L336[01:17:56] <Smexy Snek> Implement if you turn your PC off the bad way (Hitting the power button instead of properly shutting it down or removing random hardware while computer is on) shit can get corrupted
L337[01:17:57] <S3> which wear out
L338[01:18:00] <S3> so there @smexy snek
L339[01:18:03] <S3> they do weear out.
L340[01:18:13] <S3> it's a built-in feature.
L341[01:18:16] <Smexy Snek> you
L342[01:18:17] <Smexy Snek> Dickhole
L343[01:18:19] <Smexy Snek> I will slap you
L344[01:18:30] <Izaya> Operations on OC drives are atomic
L345[01:18:34] <Smexy Snek> WELL! OFF TO VISIT YOUR MOTHER! (Whoever gets that reference I will give you a waffle)
L346[01:18:41] <logan2611> shpee
L347[01:18:44] <Izaya> It doesn't make any sense for things to be corrupted
L348[01:18:50] <logan2611> -laughs in french-
L349[01:19:00] <Smexy Snek> If you plug your hard drive out in your computer rn while its still running
L350[01:19:07] <Smexy Snek> Stuff is gonna get corrupted, am I wrong?
L351[01:19:12] <ben_mkiv> yes
L352[01:19:16] <Smexy Snek> Er...
L353[01:19:17] <Smexy Snek> No.
L354[01:19:19] <Izaya> More likely it just fucks up the PCB
L355[01:19:26] <Izaya> :D
L356[01:19:26] <ben_mkiv> stuff will probably get corrupted
L357[01:19:33] <Smexy Snek> It really depends on if your HDD was in the middle of writing.
L358[01:19:34] <ben_mkiv> sata is pretty much hotswap save
L359[01:19:49] <S3> Why wouldnt anyone who has played that game get that referece
L360[01:19:58] <Smexy Snek> What game.
L361[01:19:58] <S3> that game is like so new it was just the other day
L362[01:20:04] <Smexy Snek> :3
L363[01:20:06] <Smexy Snek> What game?
L364[01:20:16] <S3> TF2
L365[01:20:20] <Smexy Snek> WHO SENDS BABIES TO FIGHT ME
L366[01:20:40] <ben_mkiv> actually depends on the filesystem, and your hdd hardware
L367[01:20:46] <Smexy Snek> Well
L368[01:20:50] <Smexy Snek> To my knoledge.
L369[01:21:00] <Smexy Snek> OC is not necessarily SATA
L370[01:21:08] <Smexy Snek> And my knowledge is not how to spell knowledge right
L371[01:21:24] <Smexy Snek> If you have 4MB drives
L372[01:21:33] <S3> why would you want SATA ayways
L373[01:21:49] <Smexy Snek> SATA is better than Molex?
L374[01:22:03] <S3> .... wut.
L375[01:22:05] <Smexy Snek> Unless you're using RGB's.
L376[01:22:11] <S3> did you just say molex
L377[01:22:28] <Smexy Snek> Er... Molex was the old way of supplying power to an HDD
L378[01:22:31] <Smexy Snek> If Im correct?
L379[01:22:54] <Izaya> Actually
L380[01:23:09] <Smexy Snek> Dont be one of those ppl who go "ACTUALLY -SNORT-"
L381[01:23:10] <Smexy Snek> XD
L382[01:23:15] <Izaya> If you remove power from a device with a modern filesystem it shouldn't get corrupted
L383[01:23:18] <S3> yes and no, except that molex is not one connector
L384[01:23:19] <Izaya> Because journaling
L385[01:23:20] <Smexy Snek> OC isnt modern
L386[01:23:40] <Izaya> Does HFS+ have journaling? I forget.
L387[01:23:42] <Smexy Snek> OC is like, when Operating systems were just fancy file systems, where you had to type the program you wanted to open xD
L388[01:23:46] <Izaya> I know BeFS does.
L389[01:24:09] <Smexy Snek> I dare someone in here to re create Windows 10 with lua
L390[01:24:16] <Smexy Snek> XD
L391[01:24:17] <S3> Izaya: I would assume any modern production filesystem has some form of journal
L392[01:24:24] <S3> even if primitive
L393[01:24:31] <Izaya> S3: I didn't think NTFS did
L394[01:24:39] <Smexy Snek> All the acronyms
L395[01:24:43] <Smexy Snek> And Idk the meaning of any.
L396[01:24:49] <Smexy Snek> Im a nerd with new hardware
L397[01:24:50] <Smexy Snek> Not old xD
L398[01:25:25] <S3> I'm pretty sure at lest the newer NTFS implementations journaled
L399[01:25:27] <Forecaster> old is relative
L400[01:25:28] <Izaya> HFS+ has had journaling since 2002
L401[01:25:30] <Izaya> Huh
L402[01:25:32] <S3> I don't know if they are meta journals or copy on write or what
L403[01:25:35] <Smexy Snek> FORECASTER YOU'RE OLD
L404[01:25:41] <Smexy Snek> AND YOU GIVE ME THE WRONG WEATHER
L405[01:25:44] <Forecaster> please tone down the caps...
L406[01:25:46] <Izaya> I thought Macs were just running without any safety
L407[01:25:49] <Smexy Snek> Sorry daddy.
L408[01:25:59] <Izaya> That's nice I guess.
L409[01:26:04] <Smexy Snek> XD
L410[01:26:08] <S3> @smexy Snek new hardware is boring
L411[01:26:14] <Smexy Snek> New hardware is indeed boring
L412[01:26:15] <Izaya> TFW i386 Darwin is kill
L413[01:26:27] <S3> there's nothing inspirational or enlightening abou new hardware.
L414[01:26:34] <S3> about*
L415[01:26:41] <Smexy Snek> "Hey, you have the new GTX 1920? Well it's obsolete now because we have the new GTX 1930 Titan!"
L416[01:26:46] <Smexy Snek> "Hey, you have the new GTX 1920? Well it's obsolete now because we have the new GTX 1930 Titanium!" [Edited]
L417[01:27:08] <Smexy Snek> "Even though it's only been out a year!"
L418[01:27:18] <Izaya> Oof. It has journaling, but that doesn't mean it's remotely modern.
L419[01:27:35] <S3> journaling has been around for years
L420[01:27:41] <S3> and I do not think it had journalling in NT
L421[01:27:49] <S3> but i could be wrong
L422[01:27:57] <Izaya> https://a.uguu.se/jrW5HrWcMS48_26103.png
L423[01:28:00] <Smexy Snek> Samsung: We release the same phone every year and disguise it as "New"
L424[01:28:00] <Smexy Snek> iPhone: We are releasing a new phone but slowing down ever previous generation!
L425[01:28:39] <S3> heh
L426[01:28:43] <Smexy Snek> Lol
L427[01:28:44] <Smexy Snek> Well
L428[01:28:45] <Smexy Snek> I shall
L429[01:28:48] <Smexy Snek> Head to the bed nuggets.
L430[01:28:50] <Izaya> NTFS does have journaling
L431[01:28:53] <Smexy Snek> Goodnight my doods.
L432[01:28:55] <Izaya> Good to know.
L433[01:29:03] <Forecaster> old phones slow down because the batteries degrade
L434[01:29:07] <Smexy Snek> Yes
L435[01:29:09] <Smexy Snek> I know this.
L436[01:29:12] <Smexy Snek> I was making a joke :3
L437[01:29:19] <Smexy Snek> A funny, a haha, a slap on deh knee.
L438[01:29:27] <Izaya> S3: do you like Acorn ARM machines?
L439[01:29:46] <S3> Why does acorn sound so familair
L440[01:29:59] <Izaya> They invented ARM
L441[01:30:01] <Smexy Snek> Because trees make them
L442[01:30:01] <S3> I can tel you one thing
L443[01:30:04] <S3> oh yes
L444[01:30:06] <Izaya> Also had a bunch of 6502 machines
L445[01:30:13] <S3> okay so my relaionship with AR is weird.
L446[01:30:16] <Izaya> Arguably the nicest 6502 machines
L447[01:30:18] <S3> ARM*
L448[01:30:27] <S3> I absolutely despise thumb 16
L449[01:30:31] <Smexy Snek> GoOdNiGhT pEoPlE!
L450[01:30:34] <S3> it's a horrible instruction set
L451[01:30:41] <S3> here's what's funny
L452[01:31:05] <Izaya> I assume that's why people just compile to it
L453[01:31:18] <S3> ARM was inspired by 6502, but the 6502 instruction set is more natrually powerful at fetch & store instructions than the ARM thumb architecture
L454[01:31:22] <S3> isn't that RIDICULOUS?!
L455[01:31:30] <S3> a cpu from the 70s beat the shit out of it.
L456[01:32:05] <S3> now things that thumb has that a 6502 doesn't, a lot.. such as SIMD
L457[01:32:35] <S3> but load store operations on thumb are extremely inefficient
L458[01:32:41] <Izaya> And this is why the normal ARM instruction set is a thing, I guess
L459[01:32:49] <S3> I bet
L460[01:34:32] <S3> yeah so like, if you want to modify some address somewhere randoml
L461[01:34:39] <S3> it takes like 4 instructions
L462[01:34:47] <S3> you can't just do what you can do on a 6502 and be like
L463[01:34:56] <S3> LDA $ADDR STA $NEWADDR
L464[01:35:23] <S3> iirc it's like, you load the address into a register such as r1, then load a register based on the address of r1
L465[01:35:40] <S3> then you load the dest address into a register, and then store a value in some reg based on the address of some register
L466[01:35:54] <S3> if it's not exactly like that I've done it before ad it's really stupid.
L467[01:36:34] <S3> now, if you're copying a bunch of memory without DMA it's not much worse because you can load the address in and increment it etc
L468[01:36:58] <S3> but there's no friendly way to access stuff. and what's more is loading values into memory can be a real pain in the ass sometimes
L469[01:37:02] <S3> er
L470[01:37:07] <S3> loading vales into registers*
L471[01:37:15] <Izaya> but uh
L472[01:37:17] <Izaya> anyway
L473[01:37:23] <Izaya> I asked about Acorn's ones specifically because
L474[01:37:30] <Izaya> did you ever see the OS?
L475[01:37:43] <S3> I don't know much about ARM32 and ARM64
L476[01:37:53] <Izaya> This is more like ARM26 :D
L477[01:37:57] <S3> oh?
L478[01:38:04] <S3> uh
L479[01:38:11] <Izaya> That is, when ARM (2 and 3?) had only 26-bit addressing
L480[01:38:20] <Izaya> http://toastytech.com/guis/riscos.html
L481[01:38:26] <S3> weird
L482[01:38:33] <S3> 64MB address space?
L483[01:38:36] <Izaya> It made sense at the time, I guess.
L484[01:38:39] <Izaya> Yeah.
L485[01:38:44] <S3> not bad
L486[01:39:23] <Izaya> anyway check this out https://my.mixtape.moe/nqwqfm.webm
L487[01:39:32] <Izaya> I did a bad clone of the panel at the bottom :D
L488[01:40:45] <S3> that's cool
L489[01:40:53] <S3> I still think border chars would work better
L490[01:40:57] <S3> the IBM 437 ones
L491[01:40:59] <Izaya> Not my call.
L492[01:41:06] <S3> oh?
L493[01:41:15] <Izaya> I'm using the widgets provided by KOS NEO
L494[01:41:21] <S3> oic
L495[01:42:52] <Izaya> I've been writing application software for once
L496[01:43:07] <Izaya> been trying to make KOS more comfy
L497[01:44:00] <Izaya> It makes a lot of sense as a desktop OS.
L498[01:44:15] <S3> I will probably make my own dialog thing
L499[01:44:21] <S3> based on the idea of dialog for linux
L500[01:44:47] <S3> accessible from shell scripts of course
L501[01:45:23] * Izaya hmms
L502[01:45:26] <ben_mkiv> nice UI
L503[01:45:37] <Izaya> I need to investigate how to store program data easily
L504[01:45:44] <Izaya> I think programs can have private config settings
L505[01:47:24] <S3> bed time
L506[01:47:32] <Izaya> o/
L507[01:50:32] <Izaya> ben_mkiv: https://github.com/20kdc/OC-KittenOS/ :D
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L509[03:08:36] zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L510[03:22:19] <Forecaster> @Vexatos maybe stream, if not definitely video
L511[03:22:42] <Vexatos> nice
L512[03:22:56] <Vexatos> The update seems really cool
L513[03:23:06] <Forecaster> I didn't know there was another one coming out
L514[03:23:14] <Vexatos> it seems about as big as the last one?
L515[03:23:30] <Vexatos> the supply drop one, that is
L516[03:23:49] <Vexatos> instead of a game mode, this one has a new floor
L517[03:23:56] <Vexatos> It's called the Advanced Gungeons & Draguns Update
L518[03:24:14] <Forecaster> nice
L519[03:24:23] <Vexatos> it apparently adds "over 500 synergies"
L520[03:24:26] <Vexatos> so that is the main thing
L521[03:24:27] <Izaya> heheh
L522[03:24:31] <Vexatos> along with a few new items
L523[03:24:35] <Izaya> good name for an update :3
L524[03:25:07] <Vexatos> >Table Tech Shotgun: Tables fire a shotgun blast of homing bullets upon being flipped.
L525[03:25:13] <Vexatos> >_>
L526[03:25:17] <Forecaster> in the meantime, todays detour was fun
L527[03:25:21] <Vexatos> U:
L528[03:25:24] <Vexatos> what is it what is it
L529[03:26:47] <Forecaster> http://tinyurl.com/y8fudg6b
L530[03:26:56] * Izaya reeees quietly
L531[03:27:10] <Izaya> Why is it that Windows begins to stutter when I'm using 12/16GB of RAM?
L532[03:33:56] <Vexatos> nice
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L534[04:14:06] <Inari> %inv add propane wind
L535[04:14:06] * MichiBot summons 'propane wind' and adds to her inventory. This seems very sturdy.
L536[04:17:36] <Skye> Mewnyan
L537[04:18:09] <Inari> Skye: Btw
L538[04:18:15] <Inari> You've seen the video on how cat speech works?
L539[04:18:28] <Inari> (as in, the japanese adding "nyan" stuff)
L540[04:18:53] <Skye> No?
L541[04:19:11] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zafsjXCmx4
L542[04:19:11] <MichiBot> How To / How Not To Speak Like ANIME characters in Japanese | length: 34m 41s | Likes: 2,563 Dislikes: 24 Views: 47,206 | by Japanese Ammo with Misa | Published On 15/9/2017
L543[04:21:48] <Skye> Can you remind me to watch that in an hour?
L544[04:22:33] <Inari> %remind Skye 1h Watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zafsjXCmx4
L545[04:22:34] <MichiBot> How To / How Not To Speak Like ANIME characters in Japanese | length: 34m 41s | Likes: 2,563 Dislikes: 24 Views: 47,206 | by Japanese Ammo with Misa | Published On 15/9/2017
L546[04:22:37] <Inari> Damn
L547[04:22:37] <Inari> :p
L548[04:30:24] <Inari> %remindme 1h Tell Skye to watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zafsjXCmx4
L549[04:30:24] <MichiBot> I'll remind you about "Tell Skye to watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zafsjXCmx4" at 04/21/2018 05:30:24 AM
L550[04:30:25] <MichiBot> How To / How Not To Speak Like ANIME characters in Japanese | length: 34m 41s | Likes: 2,563 Dislikes: 24 Views: 47,206 | by Japanese Ammo with Misa | Published On 15/9/2017
L551[04:49:32] <ben_mkiv> payonel, https://i.imgur.com/zGVvJax.png \o/
L552[05:06:14] <Izaya> nice UI background
L553[05:06:16] <Izaya> :D
L554[05:06:58] <ben_mkiv> background?
L555[05:19:21] <ben_mkiv> well... just wondering a gpu can render to resolution of tier3 displays while i can just render parts of it with setViewport()?
L556[05:30:24] <MichiBot> Inari REMINDER: Tell Skye to watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zafsjXCmx4
L557[05:38:14] <Saphire> Mmm
L558[05:38:18] * Saphire flops
L559[05:38:34] <Saphire> I now know why I can't seem to finish projects.
L560[05:38:50] <Saphire> Or rather, I know the name behind this problem
L561[05:40:51] <Inari> I thought the name boils down to "don't want to put in a lot of effort"
L562[05:42:09] <Saphire> Well...
L563[05:42:17] <Saphire> It's not that I don't want to
L564[05:42:22] <Saphire> I WANT to.
L565[05:42:56] <Saphire> But after getting some stuff done I might get distracted, put it away, etc
L566[05:44:17] <Inari> Set up the environment to not be distracted?
L567[05:48:14] <ben_mkiv> but somehow TextBuffer.setMaximumResolution() doesnt work, while TextBuffer.setMaximumColorDepth() does
L568[05:50:13] <Izaya> Stuff ain't looking so great at Apple today
L569[05:50:16] <Izaya> www.theregister.co.uk/2018/04/20/apple_macos_high_sierra_10_13_4
L570[05:56:21] <Saphire> Inari: it's... not quite how it apparently works
L571[05:56:49] <Saphire> I mean, I will be just making more distractions for myself.
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L573[06:04:40] <Nix> Hello, its the guy with the python architecture again. I have spend the last few days reading source of other architectures and the OC Lua Arch + the base class and their docs, but i can't fully wrap my head around why there are runSync and runThreaded / what makes them diffrent and whats their task. Can somebody explain it to me?
L574[06:05:30] <Vexatos> runSynchronized is run in the server thread of minecraft, while runThreaded is run in OC's own thread
L575[06:06:00] <Nix> and what are they supposed to actually do?
L576[06:06:02] <Vexatos> that means that things happening in runSynchronized can safely interact with the world
L577[06:06:20] <Vexatos> while runThreaded is the actual main method
L578[06:07:02] <Nix> i see
L579[06:07:06] <Vexatos> if runThreaded returns an ExecutionResult.SynchronizedCall that tells OC to call runSynchronized
L580[06:07:19] <Inari> I like how you asked that in the CC cahnnel an hour ago
L581[06:07:21] <Vexatos> i.e. if runThreaded somehow is told "hey, for this next thing I need to be on the server thread"
L582[06:09:05] <Nix> does any of them has a time limit because of the tick system in minecraft (i was told it has)
L583[06:09:20] <Vexatos> runSynchronized can only be run once a tick
L584[06:09:38] <Nix> and it has to last max 1 tick?
L585[06:09:47] <Vexatos> returning ExecutionResult.SynchronizedCall in runThreaded tells OC to pause the thread and wait for the next tick to call runSynchronized during that
L586[06:09:48] <Vexatos> well
L587[06:09:52] <Vexatos> once per tick per machine, basically
L588[06:10:29] <Nix> i see
L589[06:11:27] <Vexatos> if you look at the Lua arch, runSynchronized does very very little
L590[06:11:34] <Vexatos> it only does the one call it is supposed to do
L591[06:11:47] <Vexatos> runThreaded is what does everything
L592[06:11:50] <Nix> so in runThread i will want to actually execute the code and in runSync i will want to interact with the world do i get that right?
L593[06:11:59] <Vexatos> yes
L594[06:12:08] <Vexatos> if runThreaded encounters a call it needs to do on the main thread
L595[06:12:14] <Vexatos> it returns ExecutionResult.SynchronizedCall
L596[06:12:19] <Vexatos> runSynchronized will be called next tick
L597[06:12:23] <Vexatos> it will execute that one thing
L598[06:12:27] <Vexatos> and then it will continu
L599[06:12:46] <Vexatos> that is what isSynchronizedReturn is for
L600[06:12:57] <Vexatos> if that is true, that means runThreaded just returned from a call to runSynchronized
L601[06:13:31] <Vexatos> for more information, read the javadoc in the API
L602[06:14:10] <Vexatos> in Lua, runThreaded executes until the next yield
L603[06:14:20] <Vexatos> and yields may be at most (by default) five seconds apart I think
L604[06:14:26] <Vexatos> before the computer will BSOD
L605[06:14:28] * Saphire scratches head
L606[06:14:30] <Nix> 5 seconds
L607[06:14:39] <Saphire> Oookay, now i need to find the head and tail of this thing I wrote.
L608[06:14:43] <Vexatos> so make sure your language has some sort of function to sleep or yield
L609[06:15:17] <Nix> does that mean a sleep(6) would crash it
L610[06:15:42] <Vexatos> depends on your implementation of sleep
L611[06:15:57] <Vexatos> for the Lua arch, sleep() is implemented in Lua
L612[06:16:33] <Vexatos> in short, it repeatedly calls computer.pullSignal until the time is reached, and computer.pullSignal is an actual native method implemented in Scala that yields the machine until it receives a signal to consume
L613[06:17:26] * Saphire blinks
L614[06:17:40] <Saphire> Okay, wrong Nix.
L615[06:18:08] <Vexatos> well not technically
L616[06:18:19] <Vexatos> pullSignal itself also only refers to coroutine.yield
L617[06:18:28] <Vexatos> and that one is the way for the Lua VM to yield
L618[06:18:41] <Vexatos> and machine signals can return from a yield
L619[06:18:49] <Vexatos> that is what runs the thing
L620[06:18:54] <Vexatos> machine signals trigger runThreaded
L621[06:24:28] <Inari> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DbTX0h4XcAUszd2.jpg
L622[06:26:22] <Inari> https://twitter.com/gorosart/status/987417275723538432 thats neat
L623[06:26:22] <MichiBot> Fri Apr 20 14:46:38 CDT 2018 @gorosart: "Rusted Away"
L624[06:27:21] <Skye> Saphire? :o
L625[06:30:52] <Izaya> "This is madness!" "Hopefully."
L626[06:32:58] <Vexatos> sounds about right
L627[06:49:12] <Inari> Skye: Watched that vid yet? :p
L628[06:54:59] <Forecaster> Woo planning a Europe trip with some friends
L629[06:55:38] <Vexatos> Come to bremen \:D/
L630[06:56:24] <Vexatos> we have one good museum and uuuh a very nice old town that didn't get destroyed during WW2? :^)
L631[07:04:34] <Forecaster> What kind of museum?
L632[07:05:57] <Forecaster> Vexatos
L633[07:06:18] <Vexatos> @Forecaster it's called Überseemuseum, or "overseas museum"
L634[07:06:31] <Vexatos> it is filled with stuff sailors and researchers brought back from all over the world
L635[07:06:41] <Vexatos> mostly the southern hemisphere
L636[07:06:49] <Vexatos> and mostly pacific islands
L637[07:07:08] <Vexatos> it is one of the few museums in germany that can sustain themselves without government funding
L638[07:08:07] <Vexatos> @Forecaster their website http://www.uebersee-museum.de/en/
L639[07:08:30] <Vexatos> there also always is one special exhibition, currenly it's still one about Japan's cultural history
L640[07:08:40] <Vexatos> but there is a new one soon, about the Netherlands I think
L641[07:10:11] <Izaya> I want a can of KGB foam.
L642[07:10:59] <Vexatos> @Forecaster it also has an open zoological collection, one of the biggest in Germany
L643[07:13:42] <Forecaster> We might pop through there
L644[07:13:59] <Vexatos> D:
L645[07:14:17] <Vexatos> honestly though, the museum is actually really good
L646[07:14:21] <Vexatos> another excellent one is in Trier
L647[07:14:25] <Forecaster> It's on the list :P
L648[07:14:27] <Vexatos> and Berlin has like four ereally good ones
L649[07:14:32] <Wuerfel_21> Stay away from Bielefeld, wiered stuff happens there!
L650[07:14:38] <Vexatos> maybe five
L651[07:14:41] <Vexatos> depending on what you like
L652[07:15:51] <Forecaster> What weird stuff?
L653[07:19:23] <Wuerfel_21> People don't remember their time there
L654[07:19:36] <Inari> %fling
L655[07:19:37] * MichiBot flings Perl6 in a random direction. It hits Totoro on a small but very important bone. They take 16 damage.
L656[07:19:43] <Vexatos> Case in point, I've never been to Bielefeld
L657[07:20:39] <Wuerfel_21> Some say it doesn't even exist...
L658[07:21:44] <Vexatos> @Forecaster if you actually land in Bremen we might be able to meet up if you want *gasp*
L659[07:22:36] <Forecaster> Sure, it's been added to the route now it sounds like
L660[07:23:02] <Vexatos> I mean I can get you more good stuff in Germany if you tell me what you're looking for
L661[07:23:08] <Vexatos> cool places, cool museums, whatever
L662[07:25:04] <Forecaster> http://tinyurl.com/y7g2l4nq
L663[07:26:24] <Forecaster> That's the current plan
L664[07:37:36] * Vexatos tilts head
L665[07:37:44] <Vexatos> this is
L666[07:37:45] <Vexatos> uncanny
L667[07:37:51] <Vexatos> your writing looks way too similar to mine
L668[07:38:01] <Vexatos> Lübeck?
L669[07:38:06] <Vexatos> what for, the cathedral?
L670[07:38:13] <Vexatos> world's biggest organ and all :U
L671[07:38:45] <Forecaster> It's not my writing
L672[07:38:48] <Vexatos> o
L673[07:38:54] <ben_mkiv> https://i.imgur.com/tAbnEG0.png \o/
L674[07:39:01] <Forecaster> My worrying looks more like cursive
L675[07:39:03] <Vexatos> why lübeck though
L676[07:39:12] <Forecaster> Writing*
L677[07:39:23] <Vexatos> I mean it houses one of the most famous marzipan manufacturers in the world
L678[07:39:41] <Vexatos> and the cathedral
L679[07:39:46] <Vexatos> but other than that uuh
L680[07:40:09] <Forecaster> The wall in some city
L681[07:40:13] <Vexatos> Well I guess it is a cool looking city
L682[07:40:19] <Vexatos> like, it didn't get WW2'ed
L683[07:40:31] <Vexatos> so lots of old stuff is still there
L684[07:40:37] <Vexatos> much like Bremen's inner city
L685[07:42:08] <Vexatos> yea I guess if you want at old German buildings, Lübeck is a pretty good place up in the north
L686[08:06:31] <MalkContent> lord help me. my new place has a turkish supermarket nearby
L687[08:06:48] <MalkContent> 0,75kg baklava for 5€
L688[08:07:15] <Izaya> does that mean you can buy real turkish delight?
L689[08:07:58] <MalkContent> one of those badboys is about 5/4 of my daily caloric intake
L690[08:08:17] <MalkContent> didn't look yet
L691[08:08:35] <MalkContent> i just went in for tomatos and i have a thing for baklava
L692[08:08:40] <MalkContent> so one thing led to another
L693[08:08:44] <MalkContent> and now i'm getting diabetes
L694[08:11:23] <AmandaC> RIP Malk
L695[08:27:58] <Inari> @MalkContent how much is your daily caloric intake Oo
L696[08:28:37] <MalkContent> bit over 2.8Mcal
L697[08:29:16] <Inari> How does one something have more than that
L698[08:29:47] <Inari> I could eat 3 oven cheeses and still be below that
L699[08:29:47] <MalkContent> by being 750g of 462kcal/100g
L700[08:30:06] <MalkContent> its almost as bad as chocolate
L701[08:30:21] <MalkContent> but like. 10 times easier to eat
L702[08:30:25] <Inari> xD
L703[08:42:35] <Smexy Snek> Hi
L704[09:02:33] <Cruor> Inari: what is food even :I
L705[09:02:52] <Smexy Snek> Something you shove into your body that you get nutrients from
L706[09:04:07] <Cruor> i should find some of that
L707[09:04:49] <Smexy Snek> XD
L708[09:05:21] <AmandaC> %choose watch or play
L709[09:05:21] <MichiBot> AmandaC: watch
L710[09:05:36] <Vexatos> I am a big friend of nutrients that allow me to continue operating
L711[09:07:37] <AmandaC> As a fellow organic being, I too enjoy intaking of nutrients for my continuned locomotion
L712[09:09:37] <Smexy Snek> Don't be a Zuckerberg xD
L713[09:10:06] <Vexatos> pls I am not this obviously fake
L714[09:10:14] <Smexy Snek> Lol
L715[09:12:05] <Vexatos> AmandaC is a cat though
L716[09:12:09] <Vexatos> don't let her fool you
L717[09:12:27] * AmandaC flickers slightly
L718[09:12:44] <Vexatos> that C in the name is a dead giveaway
L719[09:13:53] <Smexy Snek> I also need some nutrients
L720[09:16:28] <Smexy Snek> How do I install bigfonts lol
L721[09:16:50] <MalkContent> https://i.imgflip.com/28tmfj.jpg
L722[09:16:59] <Smexy Snek> XDDD
L723[09:20:42] <Vexatos> https://puu.sh/A7Fpb/f65b101a4b.png
L724[09:20:55] <Smexy Snek> -Sigh-
L725[09:21:30] <Smexy Snek> The program
L726[09:21:34] <Smexy Snek> In OC
L727[09:21:40] <Vexatos> I have other ones, too https://puu.sh/A7FqP/e8a8a5cb08.png
L728[09:22:33] <Smexy Snek> Im just gonna stop talking now,.
L729[09:22:34] <Smexy Snek> Im just gonna stop talking now. [Edited]
L730[09:22:58] * Temia yawns, curls with the holocat, zzzmoo =.=
L731[09:23:00] <Vexatos> Am I not doing this right? https://puu.sh/A7FsC/3bae6b6235.png
L732[09:23:05] <Smexy Snek> No
L733[09:23:08] <Vexatos> oh
L734[09:23:08] <Smexy Snek> I even explained myself
L735[09:23:09] <Smexy Snek> XD
L736[09:23:16] <Smexy Snek> Bigfonts in Open Computers. It's a program
L737[09:24:22] <Vexatos> I have a lot of big fonts :^)
L738[09:24:35] <Smexy Snek> -Sigh- Im being serious man,
L739[09:24:37] <Smexy Snek> -Sigh- Im being serious man. [Edited]
L740[09:24:57] <Vexatos> I am not joking, either
L741[09:25:15] <Smexy Snek> How about this? We stop talking about it it's annoying me
L742[09:25:16] <Smexy Snek> XD
L743[09:25:25] <Vexatos> rude :<
L744[09:43:12] <Izaya> launcherbar now saves what you pinned :D
L745[09:56:03] ⇦ Quits: MajGenRelativity (MajGenRelativity!uid288574@id-288574.hathersage.irccloud.com) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
L746[10:01:02] <Izaya> https://my.mixtape.moe/noxnrr.webm
L747[10:13:26] <AmandaC> I should give this KOS thing a try, looks interesting
L748[10:15:20] <AmandaC> %oclogs
L749[10:15:21] <MichiBot> AmandaC: https://oclogs.pc-logix.com/
L750[10:18:53] <Izaya> R2 soon
L751[10:18:59] <Izaya> I'm told, anyway.
L752[10:20:51] <Inari> AmandaC: What KOS thing
L753[10:21:13] <Izaya> this KOS thing https://github.com/20kdc/OC-KittenOS
L754[10:21:19] <Inari> Ah
L755[10:23:49] <Smexy Snek> WHY ARE NONE OF THESE PASTEBIN
L756[10:24:11] <Izaya> ?
L757[10:24:23] <Smexy Snek> Idk how to initiate a program with Github
L758[10:25:58] <Izaya> Well, I'd imagine you go to the releases tab, find the installer, right click, copy the link to it, wget that on an OC computer and ???
L759[10:26:07] <Izaya> Like you would any other file hosted anywhere.
L760[10:26:10] <Smexy Snek> Well I didn't know that
L761[10:26:20] <Smexy Snek> CC was just pastebin get [pastebin ID]
L762[10:26:55] <Izaya> And OC is wget [URL]
L763[10:27:01] <Izaya> :D
L764[10:27:05] <Smexy Snek> Alright
L765[10:27:13] <Smexy Snek> Im not saying CC was better btw
L766[10:27:18] <Smexy Snek> I was just saying what they do xD
L767[10:27:26] <Izaya> I mean, OC has pastebin
L768[10:27:36] <Izaya> But pastebin is terrible for projects
L769[10:27:53] <Smexy Snek> Alright
L770[10:27:55] <Smexy Snek> Makes sense
L771[10:27:55] <Izaya> Also adds \r characters which is annoying
L772[10:28:49] <Smexy Snek> What's the block ID for chamelium xD
L773[10:29:09] * Izaya shrugs
L774[10:29:26] <Izaya> opencomputers:something, I guess
L775[10:29:37] <Smexy Snek> ok
L776[10:29:39] <Smexy Snek> Thanks ?
L777[10:32:32] <Smexy Snek> Im using World Edit
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L779[10:53:39] <Smexy Snek> I have a question, with the drone whenever I start it it says "No bootable medium found". Even when I have the EEProm in it, what do I do>
L780[10:53:41] <Smexy Snek> I have a question, with the drone whenever I start it it says "No bootable medium found". Even when I have the EEProm in it, what do I do? [Edited]
L781[10:54:42] <Izaya> I assume you wrote your own firmware and put it on the EEPROM?
L782[10:54:54] <Smexy Snek> Ah. didn't know you had to do that. Thanks xD
L783[10:56:05] <Izaya> hf
L784[10:56:12] <Izaya> ~w custom os
L785[10:56:20] <Izaya> gamax92: fix your bot
L786[10:56:38] <Izaya> Search for custom OS on the wiki for some pointers. I'm off to bed.
L787[10:57:39] <Smexy Snek> Night! ?
L788[11:15:28] <Caitlyn> how the hell is ocdoc not here...
L789[11:15:51] <Smexy Snek> How the hell do you flash an EEPRom
L790[11:16:13] <ben_mkiv> flash biosfilename.lua
L791[11:16:20] <Smexy Snek> Tried that
L792[11:16:23] <Smexy Snek> Gave me an error
L793[11:16:31] <ben_mkiv> ...
L794[11:16:36] <ben_mkiv> sucks for you
L795[11:16:38] * Caitlyn busts out ye ole crystal ball
L796[11:16:43] <Smexy Snek> Gave me a stack traceback XD
L797[11:16:46] <Caitlyn> oh... still broken.
L798[11:16:59] <Caitlyn> sorry can't use ye ole crystal ball to get the error.
L799[11:17:15] <Smexy Snek> **/bin/flash.lua:43: file not found:
L800[11:17:18] <Smexy Snek> **/bin/flash.lua:43: file not found:** [Edited]
L801[11:17:26] <Smexy Snek> If you gave me time I could've typed it T_T
L802[11:17:33] <Smexy Snek> Or simply said "What's the error?"
L803[11:17:47] <Caitlyn> Usually when you say I got an error.. you follow it up with the error.
L804[11:17:58] <Caitlyn> Or... just omit I got an error, and.... send the error
L805[11:18:03] <Smexy Snek> You gave me zero time to type it before you went sarcastic
L806[11:18:15] <ben_mkiv> calm down
L807[11:18:17] <Caitlyn> Hi, I'm a sarcastic bitch
L808[11:18:20] <Caitlyn> Nice to meet you.
L809[11:18:30] <Smexy Snek> http://tinyurl.com/y8wz3lkt
L810[11:18:31] <Smexy Snek> That better?
L811[11:19:43] <Caitlyn> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/blob/master-MC1.12/src/main/resources/assets/opencomputers/loot/openos/bin/flash.lua
L812[11:19:48] <Caitlyn> Well if you don't have *THAT*
L813[11:19:51] <Caitlyn> something is wrong
L814[11:19:59] <Caitlyn> cause as yo ucan see it's in the openos install by default.
L815[11:20:14] <ben_mkiv> he got flash
L816[11:20:19] <ben_mkiv> but the file he tries to flash doesnt exist
L817[11:20:41] <Caitlyn> Oh.. the tiny link didn't work for me so I couldn't see it
L818[11:20:49] <Caitlyn> Seems my DNS is shit
L819[11:20:55] <Smexy Snek> Im gonna go
L820[11:20:57] <Caitlyn> was, I guess as it worked after refreshing
L821[11:21:41] <Caitlyn> So yeah, make sure the file you're trying to flash is actually there, and then use flash to flash it, that should be all you need.
L822[11:21:52] <Caitlyn> also.. it needs to be 4k or less
L823[11:35:54] <payonel> smexy: you can also copy your eeprom code file to /dev/eeprom
L824[11:35:59] <payonel> or edit /dev/eeprom directly
L825[11:36:08] <payonel> for cp, `cp myfile.lua /dev/eeprom`
L826[11:36:44] <payonel> tbh, flash isn't needed anymore
L827[11:37:15] <payonel> well, it does a bit of feature to it i suppose
L828[11:37:58] <ben_mkiv> payonel, https://i.imgur.com/tAbnEG0.png
L829[11:38:06] <ben_mkiv> as the other link was probably broken.. :>
L830[11:38:39] <payonel> yeah it was :P
L831[11:38:42] <payonel> wow though
L832[11:38:45] <payonel> you're making progress
L833[11:38:52] <Izaya> https://i.4cdn.org/g/1524314664024.gif
L834[11:39:02] <ben_mkiv> also with touch support for tier2+
L835[11:39:37] * payonel adds tier2+ to Inari's inventory
L836[11:42:11] <AmandaC> ben_mkiv: whatzzat?
L837[11:42:39] <ben_mkiv> a mod that allows attaching computers to minecarts/mobs/players
L838[11:42:47] <ben_mkiv> and other stuff, like inventories
L839[11:43:12] <AmandaC> ah, interesting
L840[11:43:25] <ben_mkiv> and now with colors :P
L841[11:43:42] <ben_mkiv> https://minecraft.curseforge.com/projects/openentity/images
L842[11:43:55] <ben_mkiv> also has access to ai stuff like mob movement
L843[11:45:44] <AmandaC> interesting.
L844[11:53:47] <Smexy Snek> How do you save stuff to a floppy
L845[11:54:37] <AmandaC> `/mnt/<first-three-chars-of-the-floppy-uuid>`
L846[11:54:43] <Smexy Snek> Ohh ok
L847[11:54:54] <AmandaC> ( You can only do this with floppies you've created, not loot ones like OpenOS)
L848[11:55:02] <Smexy Snek> I know
L849[11:56:00] <Smexy Snek> **/mnt/31c: is a directory**
L850[11:56:40] <ben_mkiv> which points to the root of your floppy
L851[11:56:50] <AmandaC> That's the fs for the floppy, so if you want to write a file called "test.txt" you write to /mnt/31c/test.txt
L852[11:57:04] <Smexy Snek> Okie
L853[11:57:20] <Smexy Snek> Thank you ?
L854[12:01:40] <Smexy Snek> How do I label tho, it keeps saying no such device.
L855[12:04:45] <Smexy Snek> Also about the mnt hting, **/mnt/31c/init: file not found**
L856[12:14:55] <payonel> smexy: sp or mp?
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L859[12:37:25] <Smexy Snek> SP.
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L861[12:43:57] zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L862[12:46:16] <payonel> smexy: **/mnt/31c: is a directory** i would need to know more to help
L863[12:46:40] <payonel> but oc shell works like a real shell. so it seems youre doing something wrong in a general sense, in a linux-shell sense
L864[12:46:45] <Wuerfel_21> VR/AR on windows be like http://tinyurl.com/y8swpkg2
L865[12:47:47] <payonel> @Wuerfel_21 in all honesty, i've never had a bsod where it wasn't an actual hardware failure
L866[12:47:59] <payonel> which has been maybe twice in my life
L867[12:48:21] <Smexy Snek> Payonel err.......... Idk what else to give you
L868[12:48:28] <Smexy Snek> I did what the guy told me to do, and it gave me that error
L869[12:48:30] <Inari> VR jumpscares: bluescreen
L870[12:48:33] <Wuerfel_21> Buggy drivers make them happen quite often
L871[12:49:07] <Wuerfel_21> Buggy virtual dvd driver made the system crash on suspend
L872[12:49:39] <payonel> smexy: what command are you running?
L873[12:50:09] <Wuerfel_21> Buggy serial moise driver (ships with Win7 despite not being compatible with it) makes system crash when plugging in a usb-serial adapter with a mouse in it
L874[12:50:15] <payonel> wuerfel_21 i know what causes them, saying it has never happened to me except for actually broken hardware
L875[12:51:25] <Wuerfel_21> TBF, they did implement a proper crash handler for GPU drivers at some point
L876[12:51:36] <Smexy Snek> **/mnt/31c/init.lua
L877[12:51:41] <Smexy Snek> **/mnt/31c/init.lua** [Edited]
L878[12:51:59] <payonel> smexy: you literally typed `**/mnt/31c/init.lua**` to your shell?
L879[12:52:08] <Smexy Snek> No not the stars
L880[12:52:09] <Smexy Snek> ...
L881[12:52:13] <Smexy Snek> Why would I type the stars?
L882[12:52:20] <Smexy Snek> It was to bold it so I could type the first slash
L883[12:52:22] <payonel> how the crap would i know?
L884[12:52:34] <Wuerfel_21> Because markdown
L885[12:52:37] <payonel> show me the literal command you are trying to run
L886[12:52:46] <Smexy Snek> /mnt/31c/init.lua
L887[12:53:00] <payonel> and use backticks when discussing code
L888[12:53:05] <payonel> that's more normal :)
L889[12:53:16] <Wuerfel_21> ^^
L890[12:53:16] <Smexy Snek> Okay.
L891[12:53:21] <payonel> so you ran `/mnt/31c/init.lua` ? and what were you expecting would happen?
L892[12:53:46] <Smexy Snek> -Face keyboard- Idek, someone told me it makes it so I can save stuff to a floppy
L893[12:54:27] <payonel> smexy: i say this kindly, but that makes no sense. and, i recall some of the converation, i don't believe that is what they were trying to sy
L894[12:54:29] <payonel> say*
L895[12:54:42] <payonel> we know that you have a floppy mounted at /mnt/31c ?
L896[12:54:48] <Smexy Snek> IDK THIS MOD IS SO COMPLICATED IM ABOUT TO THROW MY COMPUTER OUT A WINDOW
L897[12:54:50] <payonel> if you run `mount` does it list /mnt/31c as rw?
L898[12:55:22] <Smexy Snek> I didnt even KNOW there was a mount PROGRAM
L899[12:55:26] <payonel> smexy: it is a shell interface, just as you would have irl
L900[12:55:39] <Smexy Snek> Im just gonna go Im an idiot.
L901[12:55:40] <Smexy Snek> BYE
L902[12:55:44] <payonel> o/
L903[12:56:34] <payonel> i didn't mean to offend by saying "that makes no sense", i was just trying to help you wipe that idea and was going to help you restart the thought process
L904[12:56:46] <Smexy Snek> No I wasn't offended
L905[12:56:57] <Smexy Snek> It's built up anger from how many people on this server are sarcastic and rude.
L906[12:57:07] <payonel> oh that's because this is irc
L907[12:57:11] <Caitlyn> ._.
L908[12:57:13] <payonel> we have to be a bit sarcastic
L909[12:57:23] <payonel> it's part of the rules :)
L910[12:57:26] <Smexy Snek> No, you do NOT HAVE to be sarcastic.
L911[12:57:27] <payonel> unwritten part
L912[12:57:37] <payonel> meh, honestly, try to get used to it
L913[12:57:54] <Caitlyn> It's the internet... get used to sarcasm.
L914[12:58:12] <Smexy Snek> I don't want to have to get used to it, it shouldn't be an unwritten rule. That's incredibly rude and condescending to people who are trying to learn YOUR MOD.
L915[12:58:21] <Caitlyn> ffs.
L916[12:58:59] <Smexy Snek> It's NOT cool and NOT appreciated.
L917[12:59:23] <Smexy Snek> And Caitlyn, I know this may come to a surprise to you, but there are kind people on the internet -Mind blown-
L918[12:59:42] <payonel> smexy: relax
L919[13:00:13] <Smexy Snek> Ive been trying to learn this programming language for THREE YEARS. I haven't gotten past how to make a basic UI with input.read()
L920[13:00:18] <payonel> anyways, feel free to ping me (use my nick here) if you have more questions
L921[13:00:59] <Smexy Snek> And now that I've gotten somewhere where I'm ABLE to ask questions, people are just RUDE.
L922[13:03:41] <Smexy Snek> Isnt it a little understandable why Im pissed off?
L923[13:03:48] <Smexy Snek> Paoynel Im not angry with you
L924[13:03:53] <payonel> honestly? no
L925[13:04:22] <payonel> too much reaction. people have been quite fair
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L927[13:04:44] <Smexy Snek> Yes, people have been, but there are a ton of people who haven't.
L928[13:05:03] <Smexy Snek> Caitlyn got on and was AUTOMATICALLY an ass, Xal got on and was AUTOMATICALLY an ass.
L929[13:05:27] <Smexy Snek> Im gonna go before I get banned,
L930[13:05:28] <Smexy Snek> Im gonna go before I get banned. [Edited]
L931[13:06:04] <payonel> smexy: this is too strong of a reaction, taken out of proportion. this is normal irc behavior - people have a bit of personality and flair
L932[13:06:20] <payonel> take it in stride, relax, realize it is not personal
L933[13:06:32] <payonel> you're not the first to have this reaction, but it is rare
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L935[13:06:41] <Smexy Snek> Im reacting to more than this. It happens at home too, I'm treated like an idiot everywhere,
L936[13:06:56] <Smexy Snek> So I guess Im not necessarily mad at people here just blew my lid at a bad time.
L937[13:07:04] <Inari> <https://imgur.com/gallery/h4jo1I1&gt;
L938[13:07:31] <payonel> Inari: i want to believe
L939[13:08:04] <Smexy Snek> You want to believe? XD
L940[13:10:20] <Inari> payonel / AmandaC: https://imgur.com/gallery/CAsz5kw
L941[13:10:40] <Smexy Snek> Omg I thought that was a dead cat for a minute
L942[13:10:50] <payonel> haha wow
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L944[13:14:53] <payonel> xarses: STILL working on my cursor lib and a basic editor
L945[13:15:12] * payonel adds emphasis to basic
L946[13:15:34] <payonel> but it's about 115 lines long and actually works to edit files
L947[13:15:41] <payonel> running mainly on the cursor lib
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L949[13:28:18] <Inari> %pet AmandaC
L950[13:28:19] * MichiBot brushes AmandaC with max floof. 15 health gained!
L951[13:28:26] <Inari> Oh look
L952[13:28:29] <Inari> Forecaster fixed it
L953[13:35:21] <payonel> %touch
L954[13:36:05] <Inari> %fling payonel
L955[13:36:05] * MichiBot flings a parallaxed Temia in a random direction. It hits the ground near payonel
L956[13:37:06] <Smexy Snek> OK
L957[13:37:09] <Smexy Snek> Im confused
L958[13:37:26] <Smexy Snek> There are literally no scripts online for drones except one outdated one.
L959[13:38:51] <payonel> smexy: drones are complicated - for experienced users
L960[13:38:58] <payonel> i recommend using a robot
L961[13:39:02] <Smexy Snek> Ew robots.
L962[13:39:03] <Smexy Snek> XD
L963[13:39:11] <payonel> what's wrong with robots?
L964[13:39:15] <Smexy Snek> Idk they dont exist./
L965[13:39:17] <Smexy Snek> Idk they dont exist. [Edited]
L966[13:39:19] <payonel> you can have a screen and keyboard
L967[13:39:19] <Smexy Snek> In my game
L968[13:40:03] <Smexy Snek> They dont exist.
L969[13:40:04] <Smexy Snek> http://tinyurl.com/ycyyam6f
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L971[13:41:56] <MGR> You have to assemble them
L972[13:41:57] <payonel> smexy: have you crafted a computer?
L973[13:42:07] <Smexy Snek> Yes.
L974[13:42:12] <Smexy Snek> I indeed have
L975[13:42:21] <payonel> smexy: if you search for "computer", does it show up?
L976[13:42:40] <Smexy Snek> No
L977[13:42:44] <payonel> do you understand why?
L978[13:42:49] <Smexy Snek> No.
L979[13:42:49] <Smexy Snek> xD
L980[13:43:02] <payonel> the item is not called "computer"
L981[13:43:05] <payonel> you crafted one from parts
L982[13:43:10] <S3> I need a power suply!
L983[13:43:14] <S3> supply*
L984[13:43:14] <Smexy Snek> ...
L985[13:43:16] <payonel> instead, you crafted a case
L986[13:43:19] <payonel> and put stuff in it
L987[13:43:20] <Smexy Snek> Ok S3 that was random
L988[13:43:22] <payonel> robots are similar
L989[13:43:25] <S3> So?
L990[13:43:27] <Smexy Snek> How do you craft a robot
L991[13:43:31] <S3> I need a power supply.
L992[13:43:39] <payonel> you craft an assembler and in it place a case and parts
L993[13:43:47] <Smexy Snek> Ohhh ok.
L994[13:43:53] <payonel> the assembler pushes those things together to make a robot
L995[13:44:12] <Smexy Snek> Well how am I supposed to know that
L996[13:44:13] <payonel> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jo9xrnDXhGg
L997[13:44:13] <Smexy Snek> XD
L998[13:44:13] <MichiBot> OpenComputers v1.3 Tutorial 8: Robots (English) | length: 28m 42s | Likes: 253 Dislikes: 14 Views: 44,724 | by Mighty Pirates | Published On 21/8/2014
L999[13:44:18] <Smexy Snek> Oh
L1000[13:44:19] <Smexy Snek> YouTube
L1001[13:44:21] <Smexy Snek> That makes sense
L1002[13:44:27] <S3> HOLY CRAP
L1003[13:44:29] <payonel> smexy: that's sangar :)
L1004[13:44:36] <S3> 450 watts that is ridiculous
L1005[13:44:39] <payonel> our mod god
L1006[13:44:43] <Smexy Snek> Lol
L1007[13:44:46] <S3> huuuuge
L1008[13:44:50] <payonel> our creator
L1009[13:45:14] <S3> who is sangar?
L1010[13:45:22] <payonel> :P
L1011[13:45:23] <S3> I thought sangar was sangar
L1012[13:45:26] <Vexatos> that guy who made a few things in this channel
L1013[13:45:29] <Vexatos> not to be confused with Snagar
L1014[13:45:31] <payonel> sangar is my alter-ego
L1015[13:45:37] <Smexy Snek> Lol
L1016[13:45:42] <MGR> S3, what about a 1600W PSU?
L1017[13:45:43] <S3> payonel is sangar?
L1018[13:45:57] <payonel> smexy: i'm the mod dev/maintainer these days (along with vex)
L1019[13:46:01] <payonel> smexy: sangar is the original author
L1020[13:46:02] <S3> MGR This is AT. a 450 watt AT PSU. Holy shit.
L1021[13:46:07] <MGR> Oh
L1022[13:46:22] <payonel> fwiw, i've actually met sangar irl! :) we had dinner together
L1023[13:46:24] <Smexy Snek> Alright
L1024[13:46:28] <Smexy Snek> Coolio! ?
L1025[13:46:54] <Vexatos> fwiw, I haven't!
L1026[13:47:05] <Vexatos> because he lives further away from me than he lives from payonel
L1027[13:47:15] <payonel> haha, almost
L1028[13:47:16] <Vexatos> considering payo lives one pond away and I an entire country
L1029[13:48:34] <Smexy Snek> Does open OS work on robots?
L1030[13:48:56] <payonel> smexy: definitely
L1031[13:49:10] <payonel> i live about 5300 miles from sangar
L1032[13:49:19] <payonel> or ~8500 km
L1033[13:49:36] <S3> payonel: strange dating tastes
L1034[13:49:56] <Vexatos> pfft sangar is not THAT bad-looking
L1035[13:50:07] <Smexy Snek> Er.
L1036[13:50:11] <S3> rofl
L1037[13:54:04] <payonel> smexy: the only reason openos doesn't work on drones is because you can't install a filesystem on a drone
L1038[13:54:33] <Smexy Snek> I thought my drone was named "Deep Throat" for a minute
L1039[13:54:34] <Smexy Snek> Nope
L1040[13:54:36] <Smexy Snek> It was Deep thought
L1041[13:54:37] <Smexy Snek> XD
L1042[13:54:47] <payonel> lewd
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L1044[13:59:48] zsh sets mode: +o on Mimiru
L1045[14:07:37] <Mimiru> Hmm, does join not send to Discord..
L1046[14:07:38] <Mimiru> odd.
L1047[14:10:27] <Xal> payonel: did you ever continue your idea for a plugin system for ocvm?
L1048[14:11:09] <payonel> Xal: it will happen, but is lower pri than current oc issues
L1049[14:11:33] <Xal> but I want it nooooooow :P
L1050[14:13:56] <payonel> :)
L1051[14:14:02] <payonel> right now i'm working on the new cursor lib
L1052[14:14:24] <payonel> i have no idea how great/bad it'll be at this point
L1053[14:14:27] <payonel> but, i'm pretty excited about it
L1054[14:14:45] <payonel> what i've done is i've separated the cursor log out of the tty lib
L1055[14:14:58] <payonel> which, as ive come to learn, is a lot how real terminals work
L1056[14:15:11] <payonel> but what i call the cursor, real tty's call the "host"
L1057[14:15:27] <payonel> anyways, the tty tells the "host" about events (key events)
L1058[14:15:45] <payonel> and the host decides if that means move cursor, or echo, or close pipe, etc
L1059[14:15:58] <payonel> and when the cursor wants to echo a key, it sends it back to the tty
L1060[14:16:10] <Xal> neat!
L1061[14:16:26] <payonel> so, why? well, this should allow programs to use a robust cursor library in custom ways
L1062[14:16:28] <payonel> such as editors
L1063[14:17:02] <payonel> i'm working on such an editor as a proof of concept for the cursor lib
L1064[14:17:20] <payonel> at ~115 lines, i can edit files
L1065[14:17:26] <payonel> and it's pretty usable
L1066[14:17:59] <Xal> would a terminal multiplexer be overly complex for a demo?
L1067[14:18:01] <payonel> mind you 40% of that is just usage checking and such
L1068[14:18:35] <payonel> you could "store" the windows in cursor buffers i suppose
L1069[14:18:40] <payonel> but that's not really what the cursor is about
L1070[14:18:56] <payonel> that's more appropriate for a window manager that interacts directly with the tty lib
L1071[14:19:02] <Xal> ah
L1072[14:19:28] <payonel> cursors are just about user input
L1073[14:19:36] <payonel> like, look at the cursor on your shell
L1074[14:19:42] <payonel> pretend that's a smart library :)
L1075[14:19:49] <payonel> it knows when/how to blink
L1076[14:19:58] <payonel> it knows when/how to move left/right
L1077[14:20:03] <payonel> + to scroll
L1078[14:20:13] <payonel> + to cut text
L1079[14:20:17] <payonel> + to append text
L1080[14:20:25] <payonel> + to return and clear its buffer
L1081[14:20:27] <payonel> etc
L1082[14:21:05] <payonel> the openos cursor lib will provide 4 methods. and users can easily sub-class/derive it
L1083[14:21:18] <payonel> and make custom behavior: move, echo, update, and handle
L1084[14:21:37] <payonel> the horizontal behavior, as an example, is just a custom sub type of the default vertical cursor
L1085[14:21:50] <payonel> most of the horizontal subtype is the same
L1086[14:22:13] <payonel> it has a custom echo to manage the scroll details
L1087[14:22:50] <payonel> but mostly its echo just calls super.echo
L1088[14:25:05] <Inari> payo wall of text
L1089[14:25:44] <payonel> Inari: https://img00.deviantart.net/d200/i/2016/002/7/5/wall_of_cats_by_vinylcroissant-d9mjm0e.png
L1090[14:25:51] <payonel> i have to run, laters
L1091[14:28:16] <Mimiru> Heading out soon too payonel :P
L1092[14:36:24] <MalkContent> damn. botania manasteel pickaxes don't do their "use mana instead of damaging the item" thing in robots
L1093[14:36:47] <S3> blob:https://imgur.com/50bf8e17-2f44-463e-a640-ff20d0fb83b9
L1094[14:36:51] <S3> OKAY few
L1095[14:36:55] <S3> minus the buffer gates i need to put in
L1096[14:37:06] <S3> my circuit is coming along
L1097[14:37:09] <S3> almost done
L1098[14:37:14] <Xal> your link is broken
L1099[14:37:18] <S3> the and gates and transparents need to be rotated..
L1100[14:37:20] <S3> and configured
L1101[14:37:26] <S3> oh wth
L1102[14:37:47] <S3> damn imgur
L1103[14:37:48] <S3> https://i.imgur.com/1sqSrjr.png
L1104[14:38:33] <Wuerfel_21> Project red ic making is brutally clunky
L1105[14:38:46] <S3> yes
L1106[14:38:51] <S3> and there's no way to save your circuiys
L1107[14:38:53] <S3> circuits*
L1108[14:38:54] <Xal> what we /really/ need is a vhdl architecture for opencomputers :P
L1109[14:38:55] <S3> unlike SCM
L1110[14:39:31] <S3> well actually Xal I was thinking of making one for the redstone components
L1111[14:39:36] <S3> tbh
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L1113[14:39:42] <S3> we need an HDL mod
L1114[14:40:00] <Xal> I have a burning hatred for verilog though
L1115[14:40:44] <S3> Have you seen Lucid?
L1116[14:40:50] <S3> lucid is kind of cool
L1117[14:40:59] <S3> it's kind of like C sytax for an HDL
L1118[14:41:15] <S3> tbh it doesn't really matter
L1119[14:41:15] <Xal> huh, neat
L1120[14:41:17] <S3> an HDL is an HDL
L1121[14:41:39] <Xal> not all are equal though
L1122[14:41:41] <S3> verilog is standard in the US
L1123[14:41:51] <Xal> verilog is objectively worse than vhdl, convince me otherwise
L1124[14:42:22] <S3> with an HDL you're working with hardware directly, so I don't really care
L1125[14:42:24] <Xal> because SOMEONE thought a weakly-typed hdl was a good idea
L1126[14:42:32] <S3> or at least you're representing hardware simulation
L1127[14:42:58] <S3> I don't mind weakly typed
L1128[14:43:05] <S3> it's dynamically scoped you want to stay away from
L1129[14:43:19] <S3> anyways
L1130[14:43:34] <S3> that Project red IC is 192 bits of RAM :D
L1131[14:43:58] <S3> 12 bit * 16 cells.
L1132[14:44:18] <Xal> brings me back to my days of building vanilla redstone computers
L1133[14:44:26] <S3> it's for a 12 bit computer
L1134[14:44:33] <Xal> working around the limitations of a system can be incredibly fun :D
L1135[14:44:34] <S3> redstone vanilla computers are annoying
L1136[14:44:48] <S3> I used to play around with making them and realized it's much more fun to deal with Redpower or PR, etc
L1137[14:44:57] <S3> especially since you can do MUCH FASTER operations
L1138[14:45:07] <Xal> yeah well there was no redpower in beta 1.4
L1139[14:45:17] <Xal> such is life
L1140[14:45:17] <S3> you're right
L1141[14:45:24] <S3> but when they came out I was like omg we're saved
L1142[14:45:29] <S3> we can make bigger computers in less time :D
L1143[14:46:05] <Xal> that was my reaction when they added repeaters
L1144[14:46:36] <Xal> but they really weren't that great, considering you can just have a redstone torch every so often with less delay
L1145[14:46:55] <S3> heh
L1146[14:47:14] <S3> with pistons and with redpower you can perform gate propagation across decoders with 1 tick
L1147[14:47:24] <S3> which allowed me to make extremely fast decoders
L1148[14:47:33] <S3> the decoder inside this IC for example I pasted
L1149[14:47:40] <Xal> I always thought repeaters/pistons were cheating :P
L1150[14:47:55] <S3> the signal reaches all the cells in the same tick, and progates all the others by the second
L1151[14:47:57] <S3> :)
L1152[14:47:59] <Xal> there some degree of elegance when the only blocks in your computer is redstone dust and torches
L1153[14:48:17] <S3> nah, low latency is what you want
L1154[14:48:24] <S3> minecraft suffers from phantom latencies
L1155[14:48:25] <Xal> no! I want a turing tarpit!
L1156[14:48:50] <S3> if you have two wires side by side in parallel and run them as far as they can go there's no guarantee with the same repeater configurations that they will arrive at the same time.
L1157[14:49:02] <S3> and that is very frustrating
L1158[14:49:15] <S3> and is one reason why it's difficult to increase performance of CPUs in minecraft
L1159[14:51:23] <S3> I need to figure out how to make a finite state machine using my PLA logic
L1160[15:05:05] <MalkContent> is there a non-excruciating way to build a t-flipflop in mc? :x
L1161[15:05:19] <MalkContent> is there a non-excruciating way to build a t-flipflop in redstone? :x [Edited]
L1162[15:11:49] <S3> @MalkContet yes.
L1163[15:12:24] <MalkContent> i think i just build one from a pulse former and a repeater latch
L1164[15:12:37] <MalkContent> this repeater locking is new to me :x
L1165[15:12:57] <S3> First of all the traditional way with redstone or anything period
L1166[15:13:06] <S3> is to make a JK flip flop and short the J and K inputs
L1167[15:13:08] <MalkContent> and apparently has been in forever
L1168[15:13:52] <S3> but you may also be able to abuse timing with an inverter and an AND gate
L1169[15:17:21] <Xal> 90% of the time when someone in mc says "flipflop" they mean "latch"
L1170[15:17:27] <MalkContent> http://tinyurl.com/yaw45f7q
L1171[15:18:11] <MalkContent> this is what i did... repeater latches have been in since 1.4.2... what the heck
L1172[15:18:17] <MalkContent> i missed the memo
L1173[15:20:23] <MalkContent> 4x1x5, not the worst vanilla circuit i've built..
L1174[15:25:35] <MalkContent> pffff. the redstone pulse of an observer is too short to toggle off a redstone torch >_>
L1175[15:26:11] <MalkContent> and apparently a repeater in standard setting isn't long enough either. boo, vanilla. boo
L1176[15:28:32] <S3> @MalkContent did you see my circuit?
L1177[15:29:06] <MalkContent> the project red one?
L1178[15:29:33] <S3> yes
L1179[15:29:33] <S3> https://i.imgur.com/1sqSrjr.png
L1180[15:29:35] <S3> that one
L1181[15:29:47] <S3> just by looking at it I found one mistake XD
L1182[15:29:51] <S3> but I can fix that easy
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L1184[15:33:38] <MalkContent> yay \o/
L1185[15:36:32] <S3> but yeah
L1186[15:36:37] <S3> @MalkContent if you need RAM
L1187[15:36:41] <S3> that is almost as compact as it gets
L1188[15:36:57] <S3> 192 bits!
L1189[15:36:59] <AmandaC> KOS is... interesting. I wonder how much work I'd have to do to make my lilac rpc stuff work with t.
L1190[15:37:34] <MalkContent> :)
L1191[15:39:05] <AmandaC> %choose code or no
L1192[15:39:05] <MichiBot> AmandaC: no
L1193[15:39:08] <AmandaC> I concur
L1194[15:39:18] * AmandaC cuddles up, loads up her PLex server
L1195[15:39:22] <S3> lilac rpc?
L1196[15:43:10] <AmandaC> My in base rpc system
L1197[15:45:01] <S3> ic
L1198[15:50:37] <Forecaster> %shell
L1199[15:50:37] * MichiBot loads a Powered Weaponized Minotaur into a shell and fires it. It strikes the ground near alfw, Mimiru and Patchi. They each take 2 (Minimum), 2 (Minimum) and 2 (Minimum) splash damage respectively.
L1200[15:50:38] * MichiBot The Powered Weaponized Minotaur was suddenly outlawed and confiscated by the MIB..
L1201[16:02:01] <Inari> %pet AmandaC
L1202[16:02:01] * MichiBot pets AmandaC with pumpkin deodorant. 3 health gained!
L1203[16:02:29] <Inari> The MiB - Temia's arch enemy
L1204[16:07:32] <Smexy Snek> HEY
L1205[16:07:36] <Smexy Snek> Who here has a gas weedwacker?
L1206[16:07:56] <Smexy Snek> The thing that you hold instead of push to cut the grass
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L1208[16:49:53] <Wuerfel_21> https://youtu.be/MjT2AoUaZfA
L1209[16:49:54] <MichiBot> drugged leaf | length: 36s | Likes: 216 Dislikes: 9 Views: 9,646 | by TechWalker | Published On 1/10/2017
L1210[16:57:17] <Izaya> AmandaC: you'd end up making a service that implements the protocol
L1211[17:03:10] <S3> who wants to go on an adventure
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L1213[17:03:18] <S3> to figure out wtf motherboard this is
L1214[17:03:40] <Inari> an ibn 5100 motherboard
L1215[17:04:36] <S3> I doubt it
L1216[17:04:49] <S3> it says AX03/B01 on it on a sticker but I can't find shit about it
L1217[17:04:56] <S3> it takes a 486 or a Pentium Overdrive CPU
L1218[17:05:12] <S3> I have an AMD 486 in it :D
L1219[17:05:38] <S3> I knew of early AMD chips but I have never ever seen an AMD 486 / 386 in person
L1220[17:14:40] <S3> OH WOW
L1221[17:15:01] <S3> Izaya: this motherboard has a cool jumper next to the VGA output for the on board SIS video card
L1222[17:15:15] <S3> J22: ON/OFF COLOR/MONO
L1223[17:15:18] <S3> interesting
L1224[17:15:31] <S3> the jumper for it is missing, but if I get this running I'll have to play with that
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L1226[17:19:59] * payonel waves at Mimiru
L1227[17:20:01] <payonel> :)
L1228[17:20:07] * Mimiru waves back at payonel
L1229[17:20:15] <payonel> xarses: you around today?
L1230[17:23:47] <S3> aha the card is not SIS
L1231[17:23:50] <S3> the vesa logic chip is SIS
L1232[17:23:54] <S3> the card is a trio32
L1233[17:24:00] <S3> vor VGA
L1234[17:24:24] <S3> it looks like there are two extra spots available for extra video memory
L1235[17:24:38] <S3> I could solder some in if I can get more info
L1236[17:35:00] <Smexy Snek> Ok, is it OC who has the random ass MC narrator?
L1237[17:36:14] <MGR> The what?
L1238[17:36:45] <Smexy Snek> Nevermind
L1239[17:36:49] <Smexy Snek> I forgot 1.12.2 is stupid
L1240[17:36:52] <Smexy Snek> Not the mod
L1241[17:36:54] <Smexy Snek> The MC version
L1242[17:40:00] <Smexy Snek> I have a bug report
L1243[17:41:00] <Wuerfel_21> Narrator?
L1244[17:41:35] <Smexy Snek> Well no
L1245[17:41:37] <Smexy Snek> Not exactly
L1246[17:41:49] <Smexy Snek> Mhh.. Nevermind I dont think its a bug
L1247[17:42:06] <Smexy Snek> Narrator comes with 1.12 therefore you guys cant fix it, but now that I think about it the thing I was gonna report isnt neccesarily a bug
L1248[17:42:11] <Smexy Snek> Narrator comes with 1.12 therefore you guys cant fix it, but now that I think about it the thing I was gonna report isn't necessarily a bug [Edited]
L1249[17:43:05] <Wuerfel_21> Any version past 1.7.10 is succ tho
L1250[17:43:33] <Smexy Snek> Tru
L1251[17:44:25] <Smexy Snek> So, er, Skye is telling me to report it anyways
L1252[17:44:41] <Smexy Snek> With 1.12, Narrator's Control B overrides the screen in OC.
L1253[17:44:55] <Smexy Snek> So if I hit control B in a terminal it still turns on Narrator.
L1254[17:44:57] <Skye> Shouldnt OC take control over this?
L1255[17:45:06] <Skye> Or even integrate with the narrator
L1256[17:45:49] <Smexy Snek> Sometimes my control key gets stuck and it gets annoying having the narrator everytime I type B it says "Narrator on, Narrator chat, Narrator off"
L1257[17:48:23] <Skye> The control key is your problem
L1258[17:48:25] <Skye> But also
L1259[17:48:38] <Skye> OC uses the control key for its own purposes
L1260[17:48:44] <Skye> So we shoulder override that
L1261[17:48:49] <Smexy Snek> Well no that's not what I was saying xD
L1262[17:48:58] <Smexy Snek> But nvm
L1263[17:49:58] <Skye> :p
L1264[17:50:27] <Skye> Though seriously, this is probably an oversight as it was a new MC feature
L1265[17:50:38] <Skye> I don't know how hard it would be for OC to override it
L1266[17:50:55] <Skye> But this should be logged as a ticket, so it's known as a problem
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L1268[17:54:33] <FLORANA> what gives? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/196436853065252864/437385616142106624/unknown.png
L1269[17:54:46] <FLORANA> i installed it and it refuses to boot
L1270[17:54:51] <Smexy Snek> What're you using?
L1271[17:54:58] <Smexy Snek> A robit?
L1272[17:55:01] <FLORANA> yes
L1273[17:55:11] <Smexy Snek> I had to install a floppy drive INTO the robot
L1274[17:55:15] <Smexy Snek> To get it to work and install
L1275[17:55:29] <FLORANA> yes i get it
L1276[17:55:39] <FLORANA> but i did that and it didn't install
L1277[17:55:41] <FLORANA> well
L1278[17:55:48] <Mimiru> Or.. just install OpenOS on t he hard drive first, then use that drive to build the robot
L1279[17:56:09] <Smexy Snek> I tried that before, the drive reset itself
L1280[17:56:17] <Smexy Snek> Idk
L1281[17:56:25] <Mimiru> That's how ALL of my robots were made
L1282[17:56:28] <Smexy Snek> Maybe it didnt finish install
L1283[17:56:44] <FLORANA> it only has `bin` and `lib` in the drive
L1284[17:56:58] <Smexy Snek> Copy files from an actual computer over to the robit
L1285[17:58:35] <FLORANA> ok nvm
L1286[17:58:40] <FLORANA> the installer was changed
L1287[17:58:50] <FLORANA> it was asking what to install from
L1288[17:58:54] <FLORANA> not install to
L1289[17:58:59] <Smexy Snek> Ah
L1290[17:59:12] <FLORANA> no odfence but thats confusing...
L1291[18:01:13] <Smexy Snek> Dont worry man
L1292[18:01:18] <Smexy Snek> I blew up earlier
L1293[18:01:18] <Smexy Snek> XD
L1294[18:01:26] <FLORANA> how to remove folder?
L1295[18:01:28] <FLORANA> lol
L1296[18:01:34] <Smexy Snek> del /"foldername"
L1297[18:01:40] <FLORANA> ...
L1298[18:01:42] <Smexy Snek> Without the quotes
L1299[18:01:49] <FLORANA> linux wize
L1300[18:01:50] <Mimiru> or rm
L1301[18:01:57] <Smexy Snek> That works too
L1302[18:01:57] <FLORANA> i keep forgetting
L1303[18:02:00] <FLORANA> dang it
L1304[18:02:03] <Mimiru> rm dir
L1305[18:02:04] <FLORANA> i keep forgetting the command args
L1306[18:02:06] <Smexy Snek> Er
L1307[18:02:09] <Smexy Snek> Im having an issue...
L1308[18:02:24] <Mimiru> theres -r for recursive
L1309[18:02:27] <Smexy Snek> One of my server racks refuses to boot, but doesnt give an error
L1310[18:02:30] <Lizzy> if it's an empty dir, `rmdir <folder>`, if it's got stuff in `rm -r <folder`
L1311[18:02:35] <Smexy Snek> It just gets stuck on a solid green light
L1312[18:02:53] <Mimiru> http://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man1/rm.1.html
L1313[18:03:42] <Smexy Snek> Nvm had the wrong EEProm in it
L1314[18:13:03] <FLORANA> finaly
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L1317[18:26:26] <FLORANA> question will `robot.count(0)` work for the hand slot?
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L1320[19:04:00] <FLORANA> how can i equip a item/block with a robot?
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L1322[19:08:54] <Xal> if someone is in minecraft right now, could you use a tier 3 data card in a computer and send me two things?
L1323[19:09:12] <Xal> do data.generateKeyPair() and send me the base64-encoded public and private key
L1324[19:09:33] <Xal> I don't have minecraft on this machine and I'm trying to make the ocvm data card compatible with the minecraft one
L1325[19:21:40] <Xal> okay I've made a paste
L1326[19:21:54] <Xal> could someone throw a tier 3 data card in a computer and send me the output of this program: https://p.teknik.io/Simple/ic2bH
L1327[19:21:57] <Xal> it'd be a great help
L1328[19:22:34] <Izaya> lemme fire it up
L1329[19:25:54] <Izaya> https://i.imgur.com/PVhvwSB.png
L1330[19:26:40] <Xal> could you pastebin it?
L1331[19:28:09] <Izaya> oh right you can do that
L1332[19:28:16] <Izaya> yeah uh lemme start up the game again
L1333[19:28:29] <Xal> sorry for making you do it twice! :P
L1334[19:28:44] <Izaya> Gotta kill time somehow.
L1335[19:28:49] <Xal> hopefully getting the data card working right will let out-of-game ocvm server communicate with in-game computers fine
L1336[19:28:58] <FLORANA> hey is there a way to do `robot.use()` without it auto sucking?
L1337[19:33:05] <Izaya> https://pastebin.com/eq13dE7J
L1338[19:33:58] <Xal> awesome, thank you so much
L1339[19:58:06] <AmandaC> Izaya: I swear I'm doing something stupid here, but I have no idea what. app-lilac-exec is just dying immediately from not getting access to "x.svc.lilac" ( code: https://gitlab.darkdna.net/amanda/oc-fileserver/tree/master/experiments/kos/apps )
L1340[19:59:24] <Izaya> ftf is svc-lilac running?
L1341[19:59:42] <AmandaC> should be! I set run.svc-lilac=yes and rebooted
L1342[20:00:25] <AmandaC> although, taskmgr says otherwise, so... I guess not
L1343[20:01:46] <AmandaC> Ah, I guess an event pump would help
L1344[20:03:13] <AmandaC> or not...
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L1347[20:58:54] <Xal> payonel are you still here?
L1348[21:18:53] <Mimiru> Xal, payonel is not connected to the bouncer
L1349[21:27:52] <AmandaC> I... think I might bt doing something that kos is actively discuraging.
L1350[21:28:35] <AmandaC> my table of "in-flight" requests seems to be mysteriously empty when I'm in the event pump, even if I make sure I have placed it properly in the table
L1351[21:31:13] <AmandaC> Izaya: if you have time sometime tonight (today?) I'd appreciate some hints on the svc-lilac. It's definately running, and receiving events, but inFlight is magically empty in the event pump, but not under the provider where I set it?
L1352[21:31:35] <AmandaC> I've just realised why I'm so tired, so I'm going to get ready for bed
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L1354[21:44:48] <Xal> well, I just finished adding data card support to ocvm
L1355[21:44:58] <Xal> I think it's compatible with the mc version but I haven't finished testign
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L1359[22:07:30] <payonel> @status @florana
L1360[22:07:30] <Discord> FLORANA is currently OFFLINE
L1361[22:07:45] <payonel> Xal: sup?
L1362[22:08:01] <payonel> data card? yeah, i need plugin support
L1363[22:09:07] <Xal> what kind of plugin system were you going to do
L1364[22:09:38] <Xal> the entirety of the data card is in one file, so it shouldn't be really hard to factor it out into a plugin
L1365[22:09:54] <payonel> %tell @FLORANA "it was asking what to install from" let's talk about that when you're online
L1366[22:09:54] <MichiBot> payonel: @FLORANA will be notified of this message when next seen.
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L1369[22:12:44] <payonel> Xal: it'll be easy to refactor what you have
L1370[22:13:20] <Xal> meanwhile I need to run a test suite to make sure opencomputers' data card is cross-compatible
L1371[22:13:28] <Xal> the java crypto api isn't exactly verbose in what algorithms it uses
L1372[22:19:01] <Mimiru> Do.... do tells to discord users work?
L1373[22:19:03] <Mimiru> :/
L1374[22:19:11] <Mimiru> %tell @Mimiru Testing
L1375[22:19:12] <MichiBot> Mimiru: @Mimiru will be notified of this message when next seen.
L1376[22:19:21] <Mimiru> Test
L1377[22:19:29] <Mimiru> Yeah.. they don't
L1378[22:19:34] <Mimiru> cause tell uses notice
L1379[22:19:42] <Mimiru> and Corded doesn't listen to notice
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L1384[23:29:32] <Izaya> AmandaC: you have to request access to the events IIRC
L1385[23:29:39] <Izaya> I'll take a look later tho
L1386[23:29:45] <Izaya> Currently out with gf
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