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L1[00:03:31] <logan2611> I know CC has RTC, I would imagine OC has it too
L2[00:03:45] <logan2611> if not you could always use an internet card and use some generic API
L3[00:09:44] <Izaya> is daytime a TCP protocol?
L4[00:09:45] <Kiritow> Well I thought there would be some better methods.
L5[00:09:52] <Kiritow> rather than ... tcp connection
L6[00:10:18] <Izaya> for extra fun
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L8[00:10:27] <Izaya> os.time returns different values depending on OS
L9[00:10:29] <Kiritow> Why opencomputers don't provide this method...
L10[00:11:33] <Kiritow> but Java has the time api, which provides time.
L11[00:12:18] <Izaya> when I was working on PsychOS I had stuff using os.time and it worked fine on sane platforms but on Windows it returned ms instead of seconds so everything was 1000 times too fast which made stuff very screwy
L12[00:16:11] <Kiritow> well then treat them differently is ok.... I think
L13[00:16:28] <Izaya> computer.uptime worked fine, just a silly difference
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L18[03:03:52] <Izaya> So I upgraded to a GeForce FX 5500
L19[03:04:00] <Izaya> and doubled my system memory to 256MB
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L21[03:53:35] <asie> Izaya: isn't that an inconsistency in Lua itself and, if so, shouldn't it be reported?
L22[03:53:39] <asie> depends on the os.time() contract
L23[04:01:30] <Izaya> I'll have to double-check
L24[04:01:44] <Izaya> it was like that on MGR's server and apparently he runs Windows on it for whatever reason
L25[04:08:15] <Izaya> payonel: I want to implement maildir but I'm unsure how I should do it, should I have it in /home/username/Maildir or should I have /var/maildir/user or what
L26[04:09:12] <Forecaster> the latter makes more sense to me
L27[04:09:47] <Izaya> yeah, if OpenOS had actual user home dirs I'd do that but it's single-user so
L28[04:10:03] <Izaya> (I'd do the first one, that is)
L29[04:10:58] <Izaya> 'cause y'know, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/44/Maildir.png is how it's meant to work but uh, no dice
L30[04:18:06] <Forecaster> I want this work day to be over so I can get the missing bits of my computer >:
L31[04:18:49] <Forecaster> Vexatos I've learned that the "Your Turn Games" page auto-refreshes once per minute, and shows in the tab title if you have turns
L32[04:22:35] <Skye> Izaya: Hm... I'd suggest hacking multi user support into OpenOS
L33[04:24:32] <Skye> I'd suggest /var/maildir/user
L34[04:25:47] <Izaya> aye
L35[04:25:55] <Izaya> I don't want to do nasty shit to OpenOS
L36[04:31:58] <Forecaster> Vexatos also I was told that email turn notifications are disabled globally right now due to server issues
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L38[04:42:26] zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L39[04:54:25] <Forecaster> Vexatos I've learned that the "Your Turn Games" page auto-refreshes once per minute, and shows in the tab title if you have turns
L40[04:54:31] <Forecaster> :D
L41[05:06:12] <Vexatos> you mean yourturn.php?
L42[05:10:46] <Forecaster> yes
L43[05:49:41] <Forecaster> dammit
L44[05:49:45] <Forecaster> I didn't see those airports
L45[05:54:39] <Izaya> Skye: unrelated question
L46[05:54:47] <Izaya> do you know what font the BeOS logo uses?
L47[05:57:47] <Skye> Sadly not.
L48[05:58:07] <Izaya> fug
L49[05:58:10] <Skye> It's a serif font for sure
L50[05:58:15] <Izaya> Making floppy labels
L51[05:58:18] <Izaya> https://my.mixtape.moe/stncdu.pdf
L52[06:00:00] <Skye> https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Beos-logo.png
L53[06:00:34] <Skye> So Be is serif font, OS is sans serif
L54[06:00:38] <Forecaster> http://tinyurl.com/y97kzmsf
L55[06:00:50] <Vexatos> oh no I derped a move
L56[06:01:13] <Izaya> Skye: it's Times New Roman
L57[06:01:14] <Izaya> please kill me
L58[06:01:24] <Skye> AHAHAHAHAHAAH
L59[06:02:01] <Izaya> I'm gonna go find a copy of Computer Modern
L60[06:02:06] <Skye> ...
L61[06:02:07] <Skye> No
L62[06:02:10] <Skye> No cheating
L63[06:02:11] <Izaya> because that's a million times better than Times New Roman
L64[06:02:15] <Skye> No.
L65[06:02:17] <Skye> No.
L66[06:02:31] <Skye> You have to be accurate! :D
L67[06:02:44] <Izaya> If I be accurate I'm going to end up stabbing myself to death with a floppy disk.
L68[06:02:55] <Izaya> Times New Roman is even worse than Comic Sans
L69[06:04:40] <Skye> What font did they use for the OS
L70[06:05:01] <Izaya> lemme boot it up
L71[06:05:10] <Izaya> assuming compiling ioquake3 has finished
L72[06:05:21] <Izaya> https://i.imgur.com/Z9AtDfG.png please kill me
L73[06:05:40] <Skye> I mean
L74[06:05:46] <Skye> For the OS text
L75[06:05:49] <Skye> In the. Logo
L76[06:06:21] <Izaya> Can't boot it right now, don't want to interrupt the compile
L77[06:08:35] <Skye> Izaya: what is the font for the "OS" in the Logo gosh darn it.
L78[06:08:44] <Izaya> oh
L79[06:08:47] <Izaya> unsure
L80[06:08:54] <Skye> Not what font the OS itself uses by default. xD
L81[06:10:41] <Izaya> https://my.mixtape.moe/ghvaty.pdf CMU Serif looks wrong
L82[06:11:58] <Skye> Eeeew
L83[06:12:06] <Skye> It's not the correct logo
L84[06:12:09] <Skye> :p
L85[06:12:21] <Izaya> Now that I know I think I need to use Times New Roman
L86[06:12:33] <Izaya> I don't want to live in this universe any more.
L87[06:14:23] <Izaya> Skye: https://my.mixtape.moe/okqpkw.pdf I hope you're happy.
L88[06:17:12] <Skye> Izaya: the OS is too bold
L89[06:17:56] <Izaya> mfw
L90[06:18:05] <Izaya> there's no DejaVu Sans Condensed Light
L91[06:20:04] <Izaya> Skye: https://my.mixtape.moe/qarjfm.pdf ?
L92[06:25:04] <Forecaster> I think I'm loosing
L93[06:29:56] <AmandaC> L-lewd, @Forecaster
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L95[06:31:28] <Arcan> rwr good-morning
L96[06:31:33] <Vexatos> @Forecaster not bad for the first game in years ,_,
L97[06:31:36] <Vexatos> I started remembering stuff
L98[06:31:42] <Izaya> Skye: Every other font is too wide and the wrong shape
L99[06:31:59] <Izaya> Fira Sans with tight spacing is as close to the original as I'm going to get
L100[06:32:07] <Izaya> unless I can convince LibreOffice to squish text
L101[06:32:22] <Vexatos> rip Bomber 2018
L102[06:32:41] <Vexatos> @Forecaster that guy was out of fuel anyway :^)
L103[06:33:08] <Forecaster> I'd be better off had I spotted the airports earlier :|
L104[06:33:19] <Vexatos> yeeeaaaa
L105[06:33:46] <Vexatos> Piperunners are still my favourite
L106[06:33:50] <Vexatos> Almost useless, way too expensive
L107[06:33:55] <Arcan> pipe organ is best instrument https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zg5QMysuSYg
L108[06:33:55] <MichiBot> Interstellar - No time for caution cover by Grissini Project | length: 4m 30s | Likes: 79,659 Dislikes: 1,353 Views: 6,991,048 | by Grissini Project | Published On 19/3/2015
L109[06:33:58] <Forecaster> I have no idea what some of these units are
L110[06:33:58] ⇦ Quits: Backslash (~Backslash@ip-94-114-160-128.unity-media.net) (Quit: Leaving)
L111[06:34:08] <Vexatos> some of them are new to AWDS
L112[06:34:11] <Vexatos> so I know them all >_<
L113[06:34:12] <Vexatos> well
L114[06:34:13] <Vexatos> used to
L115[06:34:25] <Izaya> Arcan: I disagree
L116[06:34:54] <Arcan> hmm
L117[06:34:59] <Arcan> have you ever heard one in person?
L118[06:35:17] <Izaya> https://hooktube.com/aTaongVHM0Y
L119[06:35:53] <Arcan> page not available
L120[06:36:17] <Forecaster> works for me
L121[06:36:35] <Arcan> yes i am at school behind a dumbass firewall/netblockerthing
L122[06:37:07] <Arcan> hooktube links don't work and switching it for youtube doesn't work either
L123[06:37:20] <AmandaC> %blame the rise of automation
L124[06:37:20] * MichiBot blames the rise of automation for the zombie breakout
L125[06:37:41] <Izaya> add watch?v= after the /
L126[06:38:21] <Arcan> Izaya: as neat as that is
L127[06:38:28] <Arcan> still not as good as pipe organ
L128[06:39:59] <Izaya> well I mean
L129[06:40:02] <Izaya> it's preference
L130[06:40:13] <Izaya> but I'd prefer anything on guitar to that noise from the pipe organ stuff
L131[06:40:34] <Arcan> a real pipe organ can make the entire building it is in tremble
L132[06:40:51] <Vexatos> Except when it's in a church because churches are made of stone
L133[06:41:10] <Vexatos> Playing an organ is weird because you play the bottom row with your feet
L134[06:41:17] <Vexatos> it's suuuper unusual
L135[06:41:25] <Arcan> Vexatos: maybe old european churches
L136[06:41:39] <Arcan> most of the ones around here are made of concrete block covered in stucco
L137[06:41:47] <Vexatos> even new European churches
L138[06:41:47] <Arcan> as is almost everything else
L139[06:41:53] <Vexatos> our church is only 100 years old
L140[06:42:04] <Arcan> "only"
L141[06:42:06] <Arcan> boi
L142[06:42:15] <Vexatos> please the house I live in is 150
L143[06:42:27] <Vexatos> 100 years is nothing
L144[06:42:29] <Arcan> yes, my house is younger than i am
L145[06:42:35] <Izaya> Depends where you live.
L146[06:42:40] <Vexatos> a random village :I
L147[06:42:57] <Arcan> where i live if a building lasts a hundred years that's an impressive feat of engineering
L148[06:42:57] <Izaya> In europe it's nothing, in Australia we have like 8 buildings older than 100 years (citation needed)
L149[06:43:02] <Vexatos> Must admit though, playing organ in an empty church is really damn fun
L150[06:43:25] <Arcan> by this point its survived like a few dozen major hurricanes
L151[06:43:40] <Arcan> for a building to survive 100 years around here
L152[06:43:41] <Vexatos> especially when you out all the stops
L153[06:43:45] <Vexatos> it's just WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
L154[06:44:02] * Izaya thinks
L155[06:44:09] <Izaya> I don't think I've ever seen the inside of a church.
L156[06:44:11] <Izaya> Huh.
L157[06:44:24] <Forecaster> but you've seen the outside of one?
L158[06:44:29] <AmandaC> Well, that's to be expected of an island of criminials
L159[06:44:31] * AmandaC hides
L160[06:44:36] <Izaya> They're everywhere.
L161[06:44:37] <Vexatos> Arcan, how to survive a hurricane, step 1: Build houses out of stone
L162[06:44:43] <Izaya> AmandaC: you'd be surprised
L163[06:45:02] <Arcan> Vexatos: stone from where
L164[06:45:06] <Izaya> or not because you're being sarcastic
L165[06:45:09] <Izaya> \o/
L166[06:45:14] <Vexatos> Arcan, the ground
L167[06:45:19] <Arcan> what stone
L168[06:45:30] <Arcan> florida is like a pile of sand dumped in the ocean lol
L169[06:46:02] <Forecaster> Build sand castles
L170[06:46:02] <Vexatos> our house is literally made of burnt clay
L171[06:46:04] <Arcan> the only stone buildings are the spanish forts in st augustine and maybe some of the buildings
L172[06:46:04] <Forecaster> everyone gets a castle
L173[06:46:10] <Forecaster> == everyone is happy
L174[06:46:17] <Izaya> fug
L175[06:46:29] <Izaya> even after compiling ioquake3 it still gives me "illegal instruction"
L176[06:46:30] <Arcan> and i have no idea where they got the stone, but its from somewhere around there
L177[06:46:53] <Vexatos> you can also import stone
L178[06:47:15] <Vexatos> most buildings around here are made of stone
L179[06:48:32] <Vexatos> that's why they can get old :I
L180[06:48:46] <Arcan> vexatos i question why you would even try to live here at all prior to the development of air conditioning
L181[06:50:09] <Izaya> yeah the US doesn't seem like a very nice place
L182[06:51:10] <Arcan> nah i'm specifically talking about flordida
L183[06:51:16] <Arcan> cans no spel
L184[06:51:20] <Arcan> other places are nicer
L185[06:51:29] <Izaya> Texas seems nice.
L186[06:53:15] <MGR> The ratio of guns to people in Texas overflows a 64-bit integer
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L188[06:53:57] <Izaya> I wonder what the gun-related deaths statistics there are like
L189[06:54:16] <Arcan> there's not a ton of people in texas TO shoot
L190[06:55:18] <MGR> Arcan, but the ones that are there have enough guns to match the whole US army XD
L191[06:55:53] <Arcan> texas ranks 32nd, with 10.50 firearm deaths per 100,000 pop in 2013
L192[06:56:15] <Izaya> out of 54?
L193[06:56:20] <Izaya> Are you allowed guns in Hawaii?
L194[06:56:27] <Arcan> alaska ranks 1st, with 19.59 firearm deaths per 100,000 in 2013
L195[06:56:55] <Arcan> hawaii ranks last of 50 with 2.71 firearm deaths per 100,000 in 2013
L196[06:57:04] <MGR> Does Alaska *have* 100,000 people?
L197[06:57:10] <Arcan> Izaya: where did you get 54 from, it's out of 50
L198[06:57:18] <Izaya> Arcan: people say 52 states
L199[06:57:22] <MGR> What.
L200[06:57:44] <Arcan> there are only 50 states here
L201[06:57:44] <Izaya> and I assume that only included the ones that are part of the actual land mass and not past canada or in the ocean or anything
L202[06:57:52] <Izaya> anyway why tf would I know shit about US states
L203[06:57:57] <Arcan> MGR: alaska has a population of 741,894
L204[06:58:05] <Arcan> and is NOT the least populous state
L205[06:58:18] <Arcan> Izaya: there are 50 states, including alaska and hawaii
L206[06:58:23] <Izaya> huh
L207[06:58:28] <Izaya> TIL I guess.
L208[06:58:35] <Izaya> I'll forget by tomorrow, I imagine.
L209[06:58:38] <Vexatos> How many stars does the US flag have D:
L210[06:58:43] <Arcan> there are 48 contiguous US states (which does NOT include alaska and hawaii)
L211[06:58:44] <MGR> I'm surprised there are 700,000 people in Alaska
L212[06:58:46] * Arcan slaps Vexatos
L213[06:58:47] <Arcan> 50
L214[06:58:49] <Arcan> of course
L215[06:58:54] <Vexatos> Arcan, 13 :^)
L216[06:59:04] <MGR> And now for the joke part, "That's half the population of Canada!"
L217[06:59:18] <Izaya> canadia seems nice
L218[06:59:23] <Izaya> if way too cold
L219[06:59:28] <Vexatos> CANADIA
L220[06:59:30] <Arcan> Vexatos: like 250 years ago
L221[06:59:33] <MGR> Do you like being under 2 meters of snow year round?
L222[06:59:53] <Vexatos> Arcan, on the contrary, the number of countries in Germany went from hundreds down to 16.
L223[07:00:15] <Vexatos> @Forecaster your turn :3
L224[07:00:17] <Arcan> i'm told toronto has nice weather
L225[07:00:18] <Izaya> they're a commonwealth country, I feel like I'd get along better there than the US
L226[07:00:37] <Vexatos> you can still win because I am a stupid D:
L227[07:00:45] <Arcan> our housing prices are much lower than canada's
L228[07:00:55] <Arcan> if you don't want to live in the middle of nowhere
L229[07:00:56] <MGR> *sighs*
L230[07:01:02] <Izaya> It's canada.
L231[07:01:04] <MGR> My Internet is in too poor of a shape to play E:D
L232[07:01:07] <Izaya> Everywhere is the middle of nowhere.
L233[07:01:16] <MGR> Also, ^
L234[07:01:31] <Izaya> It's like Australia, but snowy and friendlier.
L235[07:01:33] <Forecaster> I think I am doomed >:
L236[07:02:44] <Vexatos> @Forecaster if you happen to have an infantry unit near my HQ you could launch your special and win >_<
L237[07:02:56] <MGR> What game is this?
L238[07:03:59] <Forecaster> Vexatos: That could have been possible if I'd been able to make T-copters before last turn
L239[07:06:05] <Vexatos> Mhm
L240[07:06:08] <Vexatos> Because I derped
L241[07:06:13] <Vexatos> and forgot to put something in my HQ
L242[07:06:14] <Vexatos> >_<
L243[07:07:10] <Forecaster> well so did I :P
L244[07:07:25] <Vexatos> you can see a replay without fog, cool
L245[07:08:45] <Vexatos> I had twice your income o_o
L246[07:09:23] <Forecaster> cause you took my buildings :P
L247[07:09:51] <Vexatos> only two >_>
L248[07:10:03] <Forecaster> ssh, let me have my excuse
L249[07:10:17] <Vexatos> please I've just noticed the airport first
L250[07:10:25] <Vexatos> that was super fun though
L251[07:10:27] <Vexatos> what a clunky website
L252[07:10:42] <Forecaster> yeah
L253[07:10:53] <Forecaster> I'm going to get my computer up and running today
L254[07:11:01] <Forecaster> and look into fixing this thing
L255[07:11:24] <Forecaster> this site was launched in 2004 by the way, and you can tell
L256[07:11:34] <Forecaster> it's 99% tables and <br>
L257[07:11:41] <Vexatos> this site hasn't changed since 2004 :P
L258[07:12:25] <Forecaster> http://awbw.amarriner.com/changelog.php
L259[07:12:30] <Forecaster> well, it has a bit :P
L260[07:12:35] <Izaya> apparently tables are depreceated in html5
L261[07:12:42] <Izaya> so how is one supposed to display a table
L262[07:12:48] <Forecaster> could do with a re-write of the front-end
L263[07:13:48] <Forecaster> tables aren't deprecated...
L264[07:48:22] * Mimiru depreciates br, table, and style
L265[07:50:14] * Izaya depreceates link
L266[07:50:38] <Corded> * <Forecaster> deprecates the internet
L267[07:51:25] * Arcan deprecates Forecaster
L268[07:51:41] <Forecaster> ohno
L269[07:54:30] <Mimiru> 2nd to last day, supposedly I'
L270[07:54:37] <Mimiru> I'm getting a new guy to train..
L271[07:54:38] <Mimiru> in 2 days
L272[07:54:54] <Forecaster> throw him into the shark tank
L273[07:55:14] <Mimiru> not before I send him to help with the Sears truck
L274[07:55:25] <Forecaster> same thing :P
L275[08:14:27] <payonel> Izaya: what about using ${HOME}/Maildir ?
L276[08:14:53] <Izaya> but what if mail is addressed to x
L277[08:15:05] <Izaya> and you're not logged in as x because it's OpenOS and it doesn't have accounts
L278[08:16:18] <payonel> irl, when you're logged in as root, how do you check your mail for user x?
L279[08:16:33] <Izaya> sudo -u x mail
L280[08:16:38] <payonel> aye, you don't
L281[08:16:39] <payonel> :)
L282[08:16:50] <Izaya> so you're saying
L283[08:16:57] <S3> `weird
L284[08:16:59] <Izaya> all mail addressed to that machine should go to the one user?
L285[08:17:05] <S3> random loading screen
L286[08:17:07] <payonel> either that, or, don't use home
L287[08:17:13] <payonel> would be my thinking
L288[08:17:32] <payonel> then again, i haven't really thought this through :)
L289[08:17:41] <Izaya> well, it's currently set to use /var/maildir/$USER
L290[08:17:43] <payonel> but i would leave "users" out of /home
L291[08:17:49] <Izaya> aye
L292[08:17:59] <payonel> /home is $HOME to current user
L293[08:18:08] <payonel> even though that's just the only user
L294[08:18:11] <S3> dumb
L295[08:18:27] <payonel> am i making sense, Izaya ?
L296[08:18:39] <Izaya> aye
L297[08:18:48] <payonel> so yeah, i'd us /var/maildir/$USER
L298[08:18:51] <payonel> use*
L299[08:19:01] <Izaya> OpenOS doesn't users so $HOME is /home so multiuser stuff isn't really applicable to /home
L300[08:19:10] <Izaya> ~w
L301[08:19:13] <Izaya> ~w fs
L302[08:19:18] <Mimiru> wtf ocdoc
L303[08:19:20] <Mimiru> sec Izaya
L304[08:19:29] <payonel> yeah
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L306[08:19:40] <payonel> you could argue that $HOME could be /home/root
L307[08:19:45] <S3> put users in /bin
L308[08:19:49] <S3> because confusion
L309[08:19:58] <Izaya> I agree, users should go in the bin.
L310[08:20:03] <S3> :)
L311[08:20:16] <Mimiru> Izaya, ^
L312[08:20:25] <Izaya> ~w fs
L313[08:20:25] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/api:filesystem
L314[08:20:25] <Mimiru> ocdoc died in the netsplit.. and the damn cron didn't start it
L315[08:20:38] <S3> WHY
L316[08:20:46] <S3> y u no just do
L317[08:20:50] <Izaya> totally not avoiding using a web browser too much because I'm on a 350Mhz machine
L318[08:20:57] <S3> ok I think GTA crashed
L319[08:21:15] <Forecaster> http://tinyurl.com/ycuy84u2
L320[08:21:16] <Forecaster> haha
L321[08:21:19] <Forecaster> it's begun!
L322[08:21:21] <Izaya> payonel: https://my.mixtape.moe/ubdoux.png
L323[08:22:09] <S3> So after playing with the actor model more, etc maybe I will actually build one this time for OC
L324[08:22:11] <S3> super simple
L325[08:22:29] <Izaya> exciting
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L328[08:22:40] <Izaya> hey how do microkernels normally go about loading services
L329[08:22:53] <S3> It would be nice to have some nice concurrency
L330[08:22:53] <Izaya> do they execute them from a ramdisk or
L331[08:23:34] <S3> It depends, but a service is really not much different than a privileged process iirc
L332[08:23:35] <Izaya> does the bootloader handle it?
L333[08:23:43] <S3> oh for bootstrapping
L334[08:24:03] <S3> few ways you can do that, in my OS idea I literally had the bootloader have init as a ramdisk
L335[08:24:11] <S3> and then the init service would bootstrap itself
L336[08:24:20] <S3> and then load processes the way the kernel expected
L337[08:24:30] <S3> buuuuut.. that's just my hascky idea
L338[08:25:02] <S3> cool thing about my setup was that init would unload itself when it finished
L339[08:25:06] <Izaya> oh jesus FX5500 can't do OpenArena at 1280x1024
L340[08:25:12] <S3> wut
L341[08:25:23] <Izaya> getting like 3FPS on the title screen
L342[08:25:25] <S3> openarea will run on a damn 4MB video card
L343[08:25:25] <S3> :P
L344[08:25:28] <S3> I'm kidding but
L345[08:25:38] <Izaya> S3: my Voodoo 3 did not like it
L346[08:25:58] <S3> OA is supposeed to be fairly lightweight
L347[08:26:19] <Izaya> runs fine in 640x480
L348[08:26:31] <S3> 'I used to run OA on a Pentium III
L349[08:26:39] <S3> ran fine
L350[08:26:41] <Skye> Izaya, S3: doesn't multiboot have the bootloader chuck stuff into ram at certain points you can read?
L351[08:26:59] <Izaya> S3: this is a Pentium II
L352[08:27:02] <S3> Skye: are you talking about real hardware?
L353[08:27:10] <S3> Izaya: ROFL
L354[08:27:30] <S3> P2 may be pushing it
L355[08:27:38] <Izaya> S3: https://my.mixtape.moe/ubdoux.png
L356[08:27:45] <S3> Those pentium Pros were pretty slow
L357[08:28:08] <Izaya> I compiled OpenArena from source on it because the Debian version used instructions this machine doesn't have
L358[08:28:13] <S3> LOL
L359[08:28:23] <S3> Wait
L360[08:28:32] <Izaya> at 1024x768 lowest settings in windowed mode it works pretty well though
L361[08:28:33] <S3> what did P3 add
L362[08:28:43] <Izaya> dunno
L363[08:28:45] <S3> because Pentium introduce SSE iirc
L364[08:28:51] <S3> pentium 1
L365[08:28:58] <Izaya> this doesn't have SSE according to OA
L366[08:29:04] <S3> huh maybe it was P3
L367[08:29:09] <Izaya> BUT IT RUNS
L368[08:29:12] <Izaya> :D
L369[08:29:15] <Izaya> I could play with this
L370[08:29:21] <S3> yep P32
L371[08:29:21] <Izaya> if I weren't using a ball mouse, anyway
L372[08:29:26] <S3> P3* introduced SSE
L373[08:29:32] <Izaya> tfw no middle click
L374[08:29:41] <S3> so if debian uses SSE it wont run on a P2 without something..
L375[08:29:59] <S3> or if the package does
L376[08:30:03] <Izaya> maybe I should install gentoo on this thing
L377[08:30:10] <S3> rofl
L378[08:30:12] <Izaya> except I think the load would kill the machine
L379[08:30:15] <S3> and spend 5 days compiling glibc?
L380[08:30:23] <Izaya> it's rather unstable
L381[08:30:27] <S3> Install LFS
L382[08:30:29] <Izaya> I tried to use VRAM as swap earlier today
L383[08:30:58] <Izaya> ended up with insane video corruption and the GPU refused to start until I powered off the system and left it a few minutes
L384[08:31:01] <S3> I had a dual P3 1Ghz machine once
L385[08:31:05] <S3> that thing ran quite stable
L386[08:31:10] <Izaya> S3: I have a dual P3 1.133Ghz machine
L387[08:31:12] <Izaya> 768M of RAM
L388[08:31:18] <S3> need more ram
L389[08:31:22] <Izaya> shitty ATI GPU
L390[08:31:22] <S3> I had $GB in mine
L391[08:31:24] <S3> of ECC
L392[08:31:28] <S3> 4GB *
L393[08:31:36] <Izaya> BeOS does not like >1GB
L394[08:31:42] <Izaya> and that's what I really want to run on it
L395[08:31:44] <S3> really now
L396[08:31:56] <S3> does the fork run on it?
L397[08:31:58] <Izaya> so far I only got it working on the P2 box though
L398[08:32:00] <S3> I forget its name
L399[08:32:02] <Izaya> Haiku works fine
L400[08:32:05] <S3> yeah
L401[08:32:09] <Izaya> hell, I use Haiku as the main OS on my T420
L402[08:32:10] <Skye> S3, why not use MMX?
L403[08:32:18] <Izaya> hey
L404[08:32:21] <Izaya> want to hear a joke?
L405[08:32:32] <Izaya> 3DNow!
L406[08:32:39] <S3> .......... .... ... ...
L407[08:32:46] <S3> O M G I forgot about that
L408[08:32:48] <Izaya> I'm sorry that was low.
L409[08:33:04] <S3> somehow you instantly reminded me of the 3DFX logo
L410[08:33:12] <Izaya> :D
L411[08:33:26] <S3> Skye: get a voodoo
L412[08:33:35] <S3> although I had a diamond instead
L413[08:33:42] <S3> played thief on that
L414[08:33:47] <S3> (the old thief)
L415[08:33:48] <Izaya> tfw voodoo 3 3000
L416[08:33:56] <S3> VOODOO 5 man
L417[08:34:00] <S3> voodoo5 had SLIO
L418[08:34:02] <S3> SLI*
L419[08:34:38] <Izaya> it was the first SLI on a card thing right?
L420[08:34:54] <Izaya> the predecessor of my now replaced GTX 690?
L421[08:35:02] <S3> I think it was
L422[08:35:06] <Izaya> the cause of a great many housefires
L423[08:35:07] <S3> and Quake II supported it iirc
L424[08:35:38] <S3> I have a GTX 770 lying around
L425[08:35:43] <S3> no idea what to do with it
L426[08:35:54] <Izaya> I'll take a 780
L427[08:35:57] <Izaya> s/80/70/
L428[08:35:57] <MichiBot> <Izaya> I'll take a 770
L429[08:35:59] <Izaya> :3
L430[08:36:01] <S3> the 780s arent much better
L431[08:36:08] <S3> just barely
L432[08:36:10] <Izaya> I'll also take PC100 RAM and floppy disk labels
L433[08:37:30] <S3> I don't remember what I had if any that had PC 100
L434[08:37:37] <Izaya> PC133 also works
L435[08:37:38] <S3> but I DO remember PC 200 I think
L436[08:37:43] <Izaya> the AX6BC supports both
L437[08:37:48] <S3> I'm just trolling
L438[08:38:03] <S3> Pc 133 yes
L439[08:38:12] <S3> I had tons of ECC PC133
L440[08:38:32] <Izaya> http://i.4cdn.org/g/1520484543187.jpg
L441[08:38:38] <Izaya> (warning: gore)
L442[08:38:38] <S3> Trying to remember..
L443[08:38:46] <S3> I had some EDO boards
L444[08:38:53] <S3> I almost think my AMD K6 board was EDO
L445[08:39:13] <S3> and I had a motherboard at one time that had DIP memory :P
L446[08:39:21] <Izaya> Oh I found some weird shit on Electromyne
L447[08:39:32] <S3> I couldn't begin to tell you what I had on that thing
L448[08:39:34] <S3> I was pretty young
L449[08:39:53] <Izaya> How would you feel about a PCI card with an i440BX based machine on it
L450[08:40:14] <S3> did the 286 still use DIP memory?
L451[08:40:23] <Izaya> I think it had DIP cache
L452[08:41:08] <S3> http://www.biocomp.net/mylex_286_1.jpg
L453[08:41:26] <Izaya> huh
L454[08:41:28] <S3> The AMD K6 I had had a cache DIMM
L455[08:41:36] <S3> dimm style at least
L456[08:41:52] <Izaya> S3: https://my.mixtape.moe/fufrfu.webm
L457[08:42:36] <S3> WHAT THE
L458[08:43:02] <S3> lol
L459[08:43:13] <S3> well I have to say I probably done that once or twice too
L460[08:43:28] <Izaya> I need to rip a power button out of something at some point
L461[08:43:33] <S3> I have never seen an AOpen BIOS?
L462[08:43:34] <Izaya> so I can not do that
L463[08:43:41] <S3> must be some overseas trickery
L464[08:43:41] <Izaya> AOpen made the board
L465[08:43:46] <S3> oh
L466[08:43:52] <S3> weird
L467[08:44:00] <S3> did they make their own VESABIOS or something?
L468[08:44:15] <Izaya> Nah it's just the manufacturer logo added to a standard i440bx BIOS
L469[08:44:21] <Izaya> I forget which
L470[08:44:23] <S3> huh
L471[08:44:31] <Izaya> Award
L472[08:44:36] <S3> oh yes
L473[08:44:43] <Izaya> Award Modular BIOS v4.60PGMA
L474[08:44:44] <S3> award adn phoenix are pretty popular
L475[08:45:03] <S3> I always wanted to make my own BIOS except you have to do scary things
L476[08:45:07] <S3> like initialize RAM, etc
L477[08:45:23] <S3> which, on a DDR system depends on DDR1, DDR2, etc
L478[08:45:32] <Izaya> Is there coreboot for shit like i440bx boards?
L479[08:45:47] <S3> I have never successfully gotten coreboot / linuxbios to work
L480[08:45:50] <payonel> Izaya: is that your vid?
L481[08:45:53] <payonel> using beos?
L482[08:45:55] <Izaya> payonel: aye
L483[08:46:03] <S3> payonel: like his power buton?
L484[08:46:05] <payonel> i work with one of the original devs of beos
L485[08:46:08] <S3> :SD
L486[08:46:21] <Izaya> Seriously?
L487[08:46:24] <payonel> yes
L488[08:46:54] <Izaya> Man
L489[08:46:54] <payonel> he sits about 4m from me
L490[08:47:05] <S3> So the actor model has only three fundamental attributes
L491[08:47:18] <Izaya> payonel: can you ask him a question for me?
L492[08:47:21] <payonel> haha, sure
L493[08:47:22] <S3> a) They share no state with any other actor; They are environmentally secluded. Easy to do in Lua
L494[08:47:25] <Izaya> What fonts does the BeOS logo use?
L495[08:47:40] <payonel> ok, he's away from his desk right now. but i'll ask
L496[08:47:51] <Izaya> :D
L497[08:48:00] <Izaya> I've been working on a floppy disk label https://my.mixtape.moe/qarjfm.pdf
L498[08:48:58] <payonel> [with a pensive look on his face] "It was pretty basic....i dont think we went out and got it designed or anything..."
L499[08:48:58] <S3> b) Actors can send messages to eachother asyncronously; Each actor has its very own mailbox it can read from
L500[08:49:02] <payonel> he's now trying to remember
L501[08:49:04] <S3> and c) Actors can spawn new actors.
L502[08:49:17] <Izaya> I think the "Be" is in Times New Roman
L503[08:49:24] <S3> with those three things I can omg im fallin in gta
L504[08:49:28] <S3> rollin rollin rollin
L505[08:50:35] <payonel> Izaya: :) he doesn't remember :)
L506[08:50:42] <Izaya> Ah, all good.
L507[08:50:57] <Izaya> Tell him I'm a huge fan of BeOS, everything about it was fucking cool. :D
L508[08:51:26] <AmandaC> <payonel> Random Internet Stranger 6283234 is a huge fan of BeOS!
L509[08:51:26] <payonel> he appreciates your comment, said, "BeOS was awesome" :)
L510[08:51:36] <payonel> AmandaC: yeah :)
L511[08:51:39] <Izaya> :3
L512[08:51:55] <S3> What's so cool about BeOS?
L513[08:51:57] <AmandaC> BUY NOW BUY NOW BUY NOW
L514[08:52:08] <S3> AmandaC: already have two cats
L515[08:52:27] <AmandaC> I'm pretty sure it was BeOS that I read a story about that for
L516[08:52:54] <AmandaC> They were working on the screen saver stuff to show off for a trade show, but it was super unstable, so they made the crash screen just flash BUY NOW!
L517[08:52:56] <Izaya> S3: it's actually designed for multitasking, graphical desktop use
L518[08:53:18] <Izaya> unlike any OS used in such a position today
L519[08:53:57] <Forecaster> https://notalwaysright.com/dumb-without-shadow-of-a-doubt/73952/
L520[08:53:58] <Izaya> it was also big on threading and had a v. nice GUI toolkit and was v. fast and had low latency I/O
L521[08:55:50] <S3> Izaya: I think that due to Luas beautiful coroutine librasry, if I wrap the actor model around it I can make OC a really, really nice multitasking system
L522[08:56:06] <S3> you can do it without actors, but actors make things consistently nice
L523[08:56:13] <Izaya> I'm interested to see how it turns out
L524[08:56:39] <Izaya> Once I get Minitel all sorted out and finalized I'm going to build PsychOS to have a more consistent and sane setup
L525[08:57:30] <Izaya> S3: Did I end up showing you minitel?
L526[08:58:08] <payonel> Izaya: so like i said, he and work together [c++ devs], and we work heavily with threading and maximizing resource allocation on rather high end systems
L527[08:58:33] <payonel> threading is a love of mine, and i definitely have learned a lot from him over the years
L528[08:58:46] <payonel> ive known him for ... 7 years i think
L529[08:58:47] <Izaya> Like, beefy servers?
L530[08:59:25] <Izaya> (also, can I fs.mkdir("/var/maildir") if /var doesn't exist?)
L531[08:59:28] <payonel> yeah, like 32+ core 128GB ram things
L532[08:59:53] <Izaya> (should I os.execute("mkdir -p /var/maildir" ) instead?)
L533[09:00:20] <payonel> re: mkdir nested new dirs, yes
L534[09:00:20] <S3> ever get stranded somewhere in GTA and then walk all the way home
L535[09:00:30] <S3> because you're like, I don't feel like stealing today, that's not nice
L536[09:00:31] <S3> ROFL
L537[09:00:33] <payonel> makeDirectory builds it nested for you
L538[09:00:38] <Izaya> :D
L539[09:00:50] <Izaya> The OpenOS API is such a nice change
L540[09:01:00] <Izaya> I don't have to do this shit myself
L541[09:01:06] <Izaya> It may be heavy but it's v. comfy
L542[09:01:20] <payonel> heavy :P
L543[09:01:31] <payonel> compared to your bare-system days, sure
L544[09:01:49] <Izaya> It's a lot lighter nowdays
L545[09:01:59] <Izaya> I guess I'll keep writing programs for OpenOS till I feel a need to bang rocks together again
L546[09:02:02] <S3> who needs operating systems
L547[09:02:15] <S3> when you can just have nothing but a REPL
L548[09:02:21] <AmandaC> S3, vifino, CompanionCube: ( I think that's all the lispers in here ) Might be interested in https://technomancy.us/186 which I linked yesterday
L549[09:02:56] <payonel> Izaya: what the shortest repl-os you've written for oc?
L550[09:03:09] <Izaya> payonel: does using a chat box count?
L551[09:03:31] <Izaya> because I had one that executed lua from stuff people put in chat with the right prefix
L552[09:03:42] <S3> AmandaC: O M G
L553[09:04:48] <S3> ok Vexatos YOU HAS A COMPETIT0R
L554[09:05:18] <Vexatos> ?
L555[09:05:48] <Vexatos> S3, pls http://urn-lang.com/
L556[09:05:55] <Izaya> S3: less cool but possibly related to your OS stuff: https://github.com/ShadowKatStudios/OC-Minitel
L557[09:06:27] <Izaya> payonel: is there an easier way to get hostname than read /etc/hostname?
L558[09:06:36] <Izaya> I assume it's an envar
L559[09:07:02] <Vexatos> lisp is boring :3
L560[09:07:25] <payonel> there is $HOSTNAME, yes
L561[09:07:29] <Izaya> shiny
L562[09:07:48] <payonel> Izaya: it is nil though :/ by default
L563[09:07:54] <payonel> should have been ""
L564[09:07:56] <payonel> meh
L565[09:08:05] <Izaya> payonel: I'll just os.getenv("HOSTNAME") or nil
L566[09:08:06] <payonel> that's not something i've ever improved
L567[09:08:09] <Izaya> s/nil/""
L568[09:08:09] <MichiBot> <Izaya> payonel: I'll just os.getenv("HOSTNAME") or ""
L569[09:08:13] <payonel> yeah
L570[09:08:35] <Skye> Urgh I need to redesign multicast
L571[09:08:49] <Izaya> I'm almost happy with mmail
L572[09:08:53] <Izaya> at least, the mmail server
L573[09:09:04] <Izaya> the mmail clients and programs for interacting with received mail needs work
L574[09:09:06] <Izaya> but eh
L575[09:09:17] <S3> minitel huh. Oh I see who wrote it, must avoid at all costs
L576[09:09:21] <S3> lol just kidding XD
L577[09:09:45] <Izaya> Created in response to Copper's disappearance from Github, which was very inconvenient >.>
L578[09:10:01] <S3> wut?!
L579[09:10:13] <Izaya> 20kdc deleted the Copper repo
L580[09:10:28] <payonel> i need to go afk for a bit. laters
L581[09:10:31] <Izaya> I had a copy but it is EOL so
L582[09:10:34] <Izaya> o/
L583[09:10:47] <Izaya> Uploaded that copy then made my own
L584[09:11:32] <Izaya> I think it turned out much improved than the original :3
L585[09:11:46] <Izaya> s/than/compared to/
L586[09:11:46] <MichiBot> <Izaya> I think it turned out much improved compared to the original :3
L587[09:14:04] <Izaya> Oh nice, mkdir silently fails
L588[09:18:46] <Michiyo> I LOVE when stuff silently fails, means I don't have to handle errors!
L589[09:18:47] <Michiyo> :/
L590[09:18:54] <Michiyo> /s I should add.
L591[09:18:57] <Izaya> I mean
L592[09:19:02] <Izaya> in this case I think it's okay
L593[09:19:13] <Izaya> because if I can just mkdir whether or not something exists
L594[09:19:26] <Izaya> \o/
L595[09:21:41] <Forecaster> mkdir food
L596[09:21:47] <Forecaster> damn >:
L597[09:26:32] <AmandaC> mkfood dir
L598[09:26:53] <Izaya> foodmk
L599[09:26:55] <Izaya> sudo make food
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L601[09:29:44] <AmandaC> %choose listen to Nightvale or Dance on the grave of those you murdered in cold blood
L602[09:29:44] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Dance on the grave of those you murdered in cold blood
L603[09:32:29] <Forecaster> road trip!
L604[09:34:38] <Izaya> https://my.mixtape.moe/wxgvpi.mp4 Skye
L605[09:36:05] <Izaya> payonel: implemented maildir in /var, see above
L606[09:38:45] <Izaya> Also, re default value for hostname, may I suggest the first or last 3 chars of computer.address?
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L608[09:44:05] <jfred> AmandaC: Ooh, have you gotten Fennel to run on OC?
L609[09:44:23] <jfred> that looks real nice
L610[09:44:32] <AmandaC> jfred: nah, it was linked elsenet, and I tought it'd be of interest to the lispers in here.
L611[09:44:58] <jfred> gotcha - I might have to give it a try haha
L612[09:45:05] * jfred has recently been on a lisp kick
L613[09:46:10] <AmandaC> I might give it a try sometime, currently a bit listless wrt coding htough
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L615[09:59:13] <Skye> Izaya, three isn't enough
L616[09:59:17] <Skye> what's the format of a UUID again
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L618[09:59:47] <AmandaC> 8-4-4-6 IIRC?
L619[10:00:05] <Skye> why not use the first 8 chars?
L620[10:00:12] <Inari> %pet AmandaC
L621[10:00:12] * MichiBot brushes AmandaC with a chicken turbine. AmandaC recovers 7 health!
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L626[10:08:55] <S3> Izaya: sure it wasnt just moved?
L627[10:09:07] <S3> maybe even to some other git manager
L628[10:12:17] <S3> OK. IRCCloud has some new bug that drives me nuts
L629[10:12:25] <S3> I think I'm going to stop paying for it
L630[10:14:41] <Vexatos> Pfft
L631[10:14:44] <Vexatos> who needs bouncers
L632[10:17:46] <S3> for a long time I've used irccloud -> znc -> irc
L633[10:18:04] <Vexatos> why do you need irccloud AND znc
L634[10:18:36] <AmandaC> because he's crazy
L635[10:21:02] <S3> Reasons
L636[10:22:02] <S3> some of it had to do with the fact that I still use irssi and stuff too
L637[10:22:21] <S3> anand I was using irccloud for my phone at the time
L638[10:24:48] <S3> I used to use That was when I had a phone though'
L639[10:24:54] <S3> before I realized fuck phones who needs em
L640[11:15:19] <AmandaC> %choose feels train or nah
L641[11:15:19] <MichiBot> AmandaC: nah
L642[11:16:45] <AmandaC> %give MichiBot a Nudest Beach recruitement thong
L643[11:16:45] * MichiBot accepts the Nudest Beach recruitement thong and adds it to her inventory
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L657[13:23:17] <Forecaster> well... I still don't have my cables...
L658[13:43:30] <Vexatos> did you forget them again
L659[13:44:31] <Forecaster> no, I didn't see them, so I thought "I must have packed them and brought them already"
L660[13:44:52] <Vexatos> nice
L661[13:44:58] <Forecaster> but when I got back (after sitting still in traffic for an extra 30m due to a traffic accident) I searched for them
L662[13:45:04] <Forecaster> but I can't find them here either
L663[13:45:27] <Forecaster> so either I put them in an odd place on the way out at my parents house, or someone moved them (or both)
L664[13:45:42] <Forecaster> I'll have to stop by again tomorrow and look for them
L665[13:45:46] <Forecaster> (again)
L666[13:46:14] <Vexatos> maybe try searching your new house again >-<
L667[13:46:17] <Vexatos> just to be sure >_<
L668[13:46:25] <Vexatos> HAVE YOU CHECKED BEHIND YOUR DESK
L669[13:46:32] <Vexatos> :P
L670[13:47:10] <Forecaster> well no, because I don't have a desk :P
L671[13:47:19] <Forecaster> also it's an apartment
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L673[13:51:31] <Vexatos> pft
L674[13:51:35] <Vexatos> house, apartment, whatever
L675[13:52:16] <Inari> %give MichiBot Shiro's Guide To Borderline Wholesomeness
L676[13:52:16] * MichiBot accepts Shiro's Guide To Borderline Wholesomeness and adds it to her inventory
L677[13:52:38] <Forecaster> I'd love to own a house
L678[13:53:01] <Inari> Find a house that likes to be owned
L679[13:53:37] <Inari> %give MichiBot a book titled "The Steps to Happiness. Vol. III: Student/Teacher relationships"
L680[13:53:37] * MichiBot accepts the book titled "The Steps to Happiness. Vol. III: Student/Teacher relationships" and adds it to her inventory
L681[13:54:16] <Inari> %give MichiBot a book titled "The Steps to Happiness. Vol. IV: You and your Niichan - an enforcable lovestory"
L682[13:54:16] * MichiBot accepts the book titled "The Steps to Happiness. Vol. IV: You and your Niichan - an enforcable lovestory" and adds it to her inventory
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L685[13:55:23] <Forecaster> %shell
L686[13:55:23] * MichiBot loads a looking glass into a shell and fires it. It strikes the ground near GreaseMonkey, Temia and medsouzf. They each take 6, 1 and 2 splash damage respectively.
L687[14:00:03] <AmandaC> Inari: Shiro? Which?
L688[14:03:18] <Inari> AmandaC: ?
L689[14:06:18] <AmandaC> Inari: "Shiro's Guide To Borderline Wholesomeness"
L690[14:06:33] <Inari> Yeah but "which"?
L691[14:06:38] <AmandaC> which Shiro?
L692[14:06:43] <Inari> NGNLs?
L693[14:06:46] <AmandaC> ah
L694[14:07:11] <Inari> ARe there others? :D
L695[14:09:00] * Inari loves NGNL Zero ost~
L696[14:10:19] <AmandaC> hehe
L697[14:11:18] <Vexatos> Inari, https://puu.sh/zDpRI/e501803469.png
L698[14:11:30] <Inari> Hm?
L699[14:12:19] <Inari> Oh
L700[14:12:20] <Inari> I see :P
L701[14:12:20] <AmandaC> Inari: Oh!!!
L702[14:12:27] <Vexatos> Inari, pls
L703[14:12:55] <Inari> The font made me think of IRC, and then I wondered if 13 is the colour code for green on IRC
L704[14:12:55] <Inari> xD
L705[14:13:13] <Inari> Vexatos: How'd you like the movie?
L706[14:13:17] <AmandaC> Inari: explain for m....y friend!
L707[14:14:05] <Inari> http://tinyurl.com/ybm6bgmv
L708[14:14:22] <AmandaC> ah.
L709[14:14:35] <Vexatos> >_>
L710[14:14:44] <Inari> What?
L711[14:15:18] <Vexatos> Explaining inside jokes D:
L712[14:15:22] <Inari> :p
L713[14:15:31] <Vexatos> nice sound track though
L714[14:16:47] <Vexatos> There have been so many good sound tracks lately
L715[14:16:49] <Vexatos> and none for me to buy
L716[14:17:00] <Inari> But
L717[14:17:03] <Inari> How'd you like the movie
L718[14:17:45] <Vexatos> ugh, they really like their ï¿¥3456
L719[14:18:11] <Vexatos> Inari, uuh I watched it for the music I guess ,_,
L720[14:18:18] <Inari> :|
L721[14:18:29] <Inari> But it's such a good movie!
L722[14:19:10] <Vexatos> had some pretty cool images I guess
L723[14:19:18] <Vexatos> it was too rushed >_>
L724[14:20:39] <Inari> Hmm don't feel it was, but ti could have been a bit longer I guess
L725[14:20:54] <Inari> Vexatos: So you watched NGNL itself too? :o
L726[14:21:15] <Vexatos> can't say I haven't, can't say I'd do it again ,_,
L727[14:22:18] <Inari> Aw
L728[14:22:21] <Inari> But it's so good
L729[14:22:24] <Vexatos> uuuuh
L730[14:22:31] <Inari> Do you not like the lewd? :D
L731[14:22:54] <Vexatos> not really, no
L732[14:23:09] <Inari> :<
L733[14:24:12] <Arcan> i just skipped the lewd
L734[14:24:13] * Arcan runs
L735[14:24:40] <AmandaC> Inari just skipped to the lewd, my darling
L736[14:25:27] <Vexatos> why are OSTs so expensive, anyway
L737[14:48:59] <AmandaC> Inari: the end of that first episode was adorable
L738[14:49:10] <AmandaC> "Maybe they don't remember my name?"
L739[14:49:17] <Inari> Oh, that
L740[14:49:29] <Inari> I thought you were talking baout Darling in the Franxx because of that "my darling" :P
L741[14:49:57] <AmandaC> That was a reference to some nursery rhyme/song I remember growing up.
L742[14:51:18] <AmandaC> Sorry, skip to the lewd and the first ep thing were unrelated. :P
L743[14:52:47] <Inari> :p
L744[14:53:03] <Inari> I don't actually recall if S1 had much subtext lewdness in it yet
L745[14:54:33] <AmandaC> I didn't notice any, but the way she just assumed they forgot her name and re-introduced herself was adorable
L746[14:55:44] <Inari> Hehe
L747[14:55:50] <Inari> It felt slightly awkward to me
L748[14:56:12] <Inari> Like, I'd just assume they still know my name and that they'd pick it up if not xD Instead of forcing the point
L749[14:57:50] <Inari> https://twitter.com/drewisgooden/status/971845144382246912 haha, nice one
L750[14:57:50] <MichiBot> Thu Mar 08 14:28:33 CST 2018 @drewisgooden: Happy #InternationalWomenDay! Some of you ladies may not know what this means; basically it’s a day to celebrate wo… https://t.co/AeAWswJsHf
L751[15:00:53] <AmandaC> Inari: you're probably not incredibly socially awkward, though. :P
L752[15:01:16] <AmandaC> I found it adorable because it resonated with young-amanda in my brain. :P
L753[15:01:27] <Inari> Haha
L754[15:01:57] <Forecaster> Vexatos: "none for me to buy"?
L755[15:05:31] <Vexatos> @Forecaster glhd finding non-hollywood OSTs in German stores
L756[15:06:01] <Vexatos> Importing from amazon.com and amazon.co.jp is super expensive :I
L757[15:06:06] <Vexatos> like €8 shipping
L758[15:06:12] <Inari> "super expensive"
L759[15:06:19] <Forecaster> I just buy digital :P
L760[15:06:30] <Vexatos> If the disc itself is €24
L761[15:06:31] <Forecaster> or cought "acquire"
L762[15:06:35] <Vexatos> that is quite a bit :I
L763[15:06:58] <Vexatos> @Forecaster randomly appearing on my hard drive is what they currently do
L764[15:07:05] <Forecaster> :D
L765[15:07:15] <Vexatos> I might just have to wait until I have like 4 OSTs to buy
L766[15:07:43] <Forecaster> I'll give you access to my music collection if you want :P
L767[15:07:52] <Forecaster> when my computer comes back online...
L768[15:08:01] <Forecaster> even I can't access it right now
L769[15:08:10] * SAL9000 ponders the most efficient way of sharing ~17GB of music
L770[15:08:18] <Forecaster> FTP :D
L771[15:08:31] <Forecaster> cough
L772[15:08:53] <SAL9000> actually, make that 32GB. Haven't revised my estimate in a while...
L773[15:08:54] <Vexatos> I already have someone else's 180GB of music
L774[15:09:05] <SAL9000> FTP doesn't work terribly well when both parties are behind a firewall
L775[15:09:18] <Vexatos> 17GB is nothing
L776[15:09:36] <Vexatos> SAL9000, syncthing is pretty nice :I
L777[15:09:45] <SAL9000> Yeah, I use that for other purposes
L778[15:09:53] <SAL9000> imagine something like syncthing but on-demand
L779[15:09:55] <Forecaster> Vexatos I wants
L780[15:10:02] <Vexatos> @Forecaster want what
L781[15:10:04] <Vexatos> syncthing?
L782[15:10:09] <SAL9000> the 180GB of music, presumably
L783[15:10:11] <Forecaster> the musics
L784[15:10:14] <Vexatos> o
L785[15:10:14] <Forecaster> D:
L786[15:10:19] <SAL9000> nevar enuff musics
L787[15:10:19] <Vexatos> I have like
L788[15:10:20] <Vexatos> uuh
L789[15:10:42] <Vexatos> @Forecaster https://puu.sh/zDsm2/d9ccf1e5d5.png
L790[15:10:53] <Vexatos> *ahem*
L791[15:11:16] <Forecaster> mail me an ssd!
L792[15:11:37] <Forecaster> :P
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L794[15:12:16] <HatGuy> Hello!
L795[15:12:16] * SAL9000 ponders price/gb break-even point of SD card collection vs SSD
L796[15:12:21] <SAL9000> hi
L797[15:12:34] <Vexatos> @Forecaster I'd love to get your music collection
L798[15:12:37] <Vexatos> nevar enough music :^)
L799[15:12:38] <HatGuy> This was a nightmare to honestly set up
L800[15:12:47] <Vexatos> especially if it's genres I don't have a lot of yet
L801[15:13:22] <SAL9000> if you're looking for a whole lot of old Russian folk music which is nigh-impossible to find (even online), ask me :P
L802[15:13:32] <Vexatos> Currently my collection is like 50% electric, synth, and 80s pop music
L803[15:13:41] <Vexatos> ,_,
L804[15:13:49] <Forecaster> uh
L805[15:13:58] <Forecaster> I'd pull up an index for you
L806[15:14:01] <Forecaster> but offline
L807[15:14:02] <Forecaster> :|
L808[15:14:21] <HatGuy> I listen to such a vague style of music
L809[15:14:32] <HatGuy> my only requirements is that it makes me feel energized
L810[15:14:57] <SAL9000> anyone else here who uses http://beets.io/ ?
L811[15:15:04] <Vexatos> me
L812[15:15:09] <HatGuy> nope sorry
L813[15:15:48] <Vexatos> only half of my library is in beet though
L814[15:16:12] <Forecaster> I don't really need metadata for the music
L815[15:16:16] <Vexatos> HatGuy, I listen to basically all kinds of music
L816[15:16:21] <Forecaster> it's only for listening, that's all it needs to do :P
L817[15:16:44] <HatGuy> the only style I don't listen to is country tbh
L818[15:16:44] <SAL9000> @Forecaster: sane metadata -> questions like "should I buy this CD, do I already have this album?" get a lot easier
L819[15:17:03] <Forecaster> I never buy cd's
L820[15:17:17] <SAL9000> ok, s/CD/LP/ :P
L821[15:17:47] <Forecaster> I only buy digital music :P
L822[15:18:02] <HatGuy> I buy physically solely only for my car
L823[15:18:11] <SAL9000> or in my case "should I spend half a day writing an automated scraper to get ALL THE MUSIC from a dying website" :P
L824[15:18:26] <Vexatos> I use beet mainly for importing metadata
L825[15:18:38] <SAL9000> I was *very* surprised to find out later that the Wayback Machine (sometimes) saves the mp3's too O_O
L826[15:18:47] <SAL9000> not all of them, but still
L827[15:18:57] <lp> I only listen to OPUS compressed 48 kHz digital music at 128 kbps
L828[15:18:59] <Forecaster> My car plays music from my phone
L829[15:19:00] <lp> audiophiles, fite me
L830[15:19:12] <Forecaster> it was a pretty important requirement when I bought the car
L831[15:19:13] <SAL9000> opus at 128kbps ain't so bad
L832[15:19:29] <HatGuy> My car can too, it just would kill my phone battery and it's nice to have options
L833[15:19:31] <lp> SAL9000: yeah I don't get why people still stick to mp3
L834[15:19:34] <SAL9000> @Forecaster: ...you do know that you can replace the head unit pretty cheaply, right?
L835[15:19:54] <Inari> Psh if you're a real audiophile you only listen to true sound, not that artificial crap that speakers produce
L836[15:19:58] <Forecaster> not if it's a proprietary device
L837[15:20:05] <Forecaster> not a standard radio
L838[15:20:08] <SAL9000> lp: 80% of my collection is stuff that some amateur transferred from LP to tape to CD to mp3 and then to a website somewhere. I don't dare transcode it any further
L839[15:20:12] <Vexatos> I have like 400GB of music and encode it all to opus which takes like two hours and then I have 50GB of music for my phone
L840[15:20:18] <SAL9000> @Forecaster: damn, that sucks
L841[15:20:38] <Forecaster> and I keep the phone plugged in in the car :P
L842[15:20:41] <Vexatos> find . -type f -iname '*.flac' | parallel --bar 'mkdir -p opus/{//}; opusenc {} opus/{.}.ogg'
L843[15:20:43] <lp> you're not a true audiophile unless you're using the full 24 bits i.e. the quietest sound in your music is footsteps and the loudest is a millitary jet afterburner starting up 5 meters away from your ear
L844[15:20:44] <Forecaster> no battery killing
L845[15:21:06] <Inari> lp: Thats still fake sound
L846[15:21:33] <SAL9000> lp: http://www.perfect8.com/
L847[15:21:37] <lp> in which case you won't have any more eardrums and your eye sockets will probably rupture too
L848[15:21:48] <lp> so you won't be able to argue with people on the internet about audio quality
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L850[15:23:23] <Forecaster> I mostly listen to internet music or game soundtracks
L851[15:23:41] <Forecaster> currently I listen to the Sims 1 & 2 OST in the car
L852[15:24:29] <Vexatos> currently I listen to the Xenoblade 2 OST on the bus >_<
L853[15:27:24] <lp> I listen to 2012 dubstep so it's hard to find masters that are exceptionally bad
L854[15:27:45] <lp> so I feel comfortable re-encoding to a more efficient lossy compressed format
L855[15:28:03] <lp> or encoding it from the lossless if I can find one
L856[15:28:51] <lp> if the vinyl trend hits electronic music I will be very sad and disappointed
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L858[15:31:45] *** HalinitesEmmisary is now known as Halinite
L859[15:31:48] <Halinite> test
L860[15:31:53] <Halinite> okay sick
L861[15:32:01] *** Halinite is now known as HalinitesEmmisary
L862[15:32:57] * Inari wonders if we still have that ban on long nicks
L863[15:33:00] <Inari> Banlists says no
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L865[15:33:23] <SAL9000> Inari: instead we have irc clients with nick truncation support :p
L866[15:36:21] <Vexatos> lp, I mean, there was electronic music in the 80s and 90s
L867[15:36:24] <Vexatos> and those had vinyls
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L869[15:37:24] <HalinitesEmmisary> I slightly lowered my idiocy level and installed oppm
L870[15:37:31] <AmandaC> ./` On every corner there's a giant metal santa-claus ./`
L871[15:38:05] <Inari> AmandaC: What
L872[15:38:29] <AmandaC> Inari: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3DyxaCYlfg
L873[15:38:29] <MichiBot> Chiron Beta Prime | length: 3m 13s | Likes: 2,747 Dislikes: 66 Views: 449,834 | by jocopro | Published On 23/11/2006
L874[15:39:10] <HalinitesEmmisary> Wow, we even have bots here, i've learned another thing I guess
L875[15:39:59] <CompanionCube> Inari: doesn't MichiBot have something for it
L876[15:40:06] <lp> Vexatos: the hope is that that kind of insanity won't happen again, now that digital formats are pretty much perfect
L877[15:40:08] <CompanionCube> iirc involving mode +q
L878[15:40:17] <Inari> Purrhaps
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L881[15:44:43] zsh sets mode: +o on MichiyoWithALongNick
L882[15:44:51] <MichiyoWithALongNick> Test.
L883[15:44:56] <MichiyoWithALongNick> Oh crap right
L884[15:44:57] <lp> Test failed.
L885[15:45:00] <Inari> %fling MichiyoWithALongNick
L886[15:45:00] * MichiBot flings an EMP warhead in a random direction. It hits MichiyoWithALongNick in their pride. They take [2] damage.
L887[15:45:03] <MichiyoWithALongNick> I auto op
L888[15:45:11] MichiyoWithALongNick sets mode: -o on MichiyoWithALongNick
L889[15:45:13] <MichiyoWithALongNick> Test
L890[15:45:25] <MichiyoWithALongNick> Anything?
L891[15:45:35] <MichiyoWithALongNick> %test
L892[15:45:45] <Michiyo> can anyone see that?
L893[15:45:48] <Michiyo> I can cause I'm op
L894[15:46:02] <Inari> I can't see anything from MichiyoWithALongNick after the unop
L895[15:46:07] <AmandaC> I don't see anything after "I auto op"
L896[15:46:11] <MichiyoWithALongNick> woo
L897[15:46:19] <Inari> %pet AmandaC
L898[15:46:19] * MichiBot brushes AmandaC with allegro days. AmandaC recovers 7 health!
L899[15:46:25] <Inari> Hm
L900[15:46:28] <lp> I can't see anything, as I have removed my eyes
L901[15:46:35] <Michiyo> https://michi.pc-logix.com/hexchat_2018-03-08_15-46-30.png
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L903[15:46:57] <Inari> Today was definitely an andante day
L904[15:47:05] <AmandaC> andante?
L905[15:47:20] <AmandaC> ah
L906[15:47:28] <AmandaC> silly Inari with her big wors
L907[15:47:31] <AmandaC> words*
L908[15:47:32] <Inari> :D
L909[15:47:58] <Inari> %pet Cruor aggressively
L910[15:47:58] * MichiBot pets Cruor aggressively with penpineappleapplepen. Cruor aggressively recovers 1 health!, penpineappleapplepen looked too much like a carrot and was eaten by a near-sighted bunny.
L911[15:48:17] <AmandaC> "Cruor aggressively recovers 1 health"
L912[15:48:23] <Inari> xD
L913[15:49:10] <Michiyo> if (event.getUser().getNick().length() >= 18) {
L914[15:49:20] <Michiyo> so max length is 18, they had 17 iirc
L915[15:49:42] <Michiyo> and the +q list shooows: * #oc: ??????????????????*!*@* on Wed Jan 17 17:33:12 2018 by anarchy.esper.net
L916[15:49:44] <SAL9000> hah, that perfectly matches the nick truncation settings in my client
L917[15:49:54] <Inari> Ah right +q :p not +b
L918[15:50:04] <Michiyo> lol
L919[15:50:23] <Inari> Is +q even an RFC thing
L920[15:50:27] <AmandaC> nope
L921[15:50:34] <AmandaC> Unreal(?) addition
L922[15:50:37] <Michiyo> is 90% of IRC an RFC thing anymore?
L923[15:50:42] <AmandaC> nope
L924[15:50:47] <SAL9000> there *is* ircv3 which is trying to herd those cats
L925[15:50:52] <SAL9000> haven't heard much from them though
L926[15:51:21] <AmandaC> IRCCloud has ircv3 support for profile pictures on servers which support it
L927[15:51:39] <Inari> kvirc has non-ircv3 support for profile pictures
L928[15:51:40] <Inari> :D
L929[15:52:05] <lp> IRC has profile pictures?!
L930[15:52:07] <lp> fuck I am old
L931[15:52:39] <SAL9000> it's not like our tty-based clients would show 'em :P
L932[15:52:48] <lp> SAL9000: yes thank god
L933[15:52:58] <lp> although I'm pretty sure my terminal does support a bitmap standard
L934[15:53:00] <SAL9000> *high-fives fellow weechat user*
L935[15:53:07] * AmandaC shrugs
L936[15:53:10] <lp> so if weechat ever decides to support that...
L937[15:53:11] <SAL9000> rxvt doesn't do bitmaps
L938[15:53:34] <SAL9000> it does do italics though, if you're missing that
L939[15:53:35] <AmandaC> I'm a 90s kid, I grew up with profile pictures in AIM/Yahoo/MSN, so I don't see any problem with them.
L940[15:54:04] <lp> italics and bold
L941[15:54:14] <lp> and color
L942[15:54:24] <AmandaC> IRCCloud adds client-side rendering for `code blocks`, too
L943[15:54:28] <SAL9000> what about underline?
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L945[15:54:58] <HalinitesEmmisary> too bad oppm isn't working but hey I installed it
L946[15:55:13] <AmandaC> You should probably update OC in your pack
L947[15:55:29] <lp> would you like some EYE RAPE
L948[15:55:38] <SAL9000> /kick lp no
L949[15:55:40] <AmandaC> I doubt much stuff you find today will still work on OC from 2 years ago
L950[15:55:48] <HalinitesEmmisary> I would but I'm not in charge here and those who are don't want to uodate our mods
L951[15:55:57] <AmandaC> vOv
L952[15:56:05] <AmandaC> lp: blocked.
L953[15:56:12] <lp> rip
L954[15:56:19] <HalinitesEmmisary> because it would require resetting our whpole world
L955[15:56:21] <SAL9000> lp: that's how you end up with channels on chronic no-colors mode
L956[15:56:33] <lp> those channels are for boring people
L957[15:56:40] <HalinitesEmmisary> and most people don't want to lose everything they've been working on for about a year
L958[15:56:48] <SAL9000> Use a nice non-eye-rape rainbow instead
L959[15:56:53] <Inari> %rainbow at least make it pretty
L960[15:56:53] <MichiBot> Inari: at least make it pretty
L961[15:57:05] <SAL9000> we can do randomized rainbow too
L962[15:57:07] <AmandaC> OC shouldn't need any regen of the world.
L963[15:57:10] <lp> even less eye rape depending on your terminal's color settings
L964[15:57:22] <Inari> ~markov lewd
L965[15:57:22] <ocdoc> we can conclude it ill make em lewd?
L966[15:57:47] <AmandaC> lewdness can cause illness? No wonder Inari's always getting a winter cold
L967[15:58:04] <Inari> ~markov lewd
L968[15:58:04] <ocdoc> My voice is so sexy and futuristic
L969[15:58:15] <AmandaC> LOL
L970[15:58:19] <SAL9000> lp: atcomplete.pl 0.001, color_popup.pl 0.4, coords.pl 0.7.3.1, iset.pl 4.3, kickban.pl 0.3, perlexec.pl 0.1, rslap.pl 1.3.1, stalker.pl 1.5, topicsed.pl 0.1, buffer_autoset.py 1.0, bufsave.py 0.3, cmd_help.py 0.4, cron.py 0.4, customize_bar.py 0.1, go.py 2.0, grep.py 0.7.8, histman.py 0.5, infolist.py 0.5, kbtimeout.py 0.1, listbuffer.py 0.8.1, otr.py 1.9.1, prism.py 0.2.11, pybuffer.py 0.2,
L971[15:58:20] <SAL9000> server_autoswitch.py 0.4, theme.py 0.1-dev
L972[16:01:12] <CompanionCube> my terminal does have bitmap image support, but the only thing that uses it is shipped with the terminal.
L973[16:02:00] <CompanionCube> (it's bloody useful to be able to right-click+preview image urls from weechat though)
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L975[16:18:39] <AmandaC> CompanionCube: what terminal?
L976[16:18:49] <CompanionCube> AmandaC: Terminology
L977[16:19:05] <CompanionCube> other terminals have 24-bit colour, but this does it differently
L978[16:20:06] <lp> AmandaC: it seems the terminal I'm using right now doesn't support it (alacritty)
L979[16:20:07] <lp> but termite does
L980[16:20:17] <lp> if you use the command line browser w3m
L981[16:20:28] <AmandaC> CompanionCube: when I was on a mac, the terminal emulator I was using (iTerm2) had a command you could use to embed images inside the output stream
L982[16:20:28] <lp> it will show images inline in terminals that support this standard
L983[16:21:06] <CompanionCube> as if I would us a Mac :P
L984[16:21:13] <AmandaC> CompanionCube: :P
L985[16:21:49] <Arcan> %give michibot an apple
L986[16:21:49] * MichiBot searches through her inventory for a bit. "I couldn't find anything..."
L987[16:21:56] <Arcan> %give MichiBot an apple
L988[16:21:56] * MichiBot accepts the apple and adds it to her inventory
L989[16:22:00] <Arcan> why is that case sensitive
L990[16:23:11] <Michiyo> Because MichiBot prefers her name properly capitalized.
L991[16:27:04] <Skye> CompanionCube: what about terminology
L992[16:27:28] <CompanionCube> Skye: ?
L993[16:27:52] <Skye> You can view images in that
L994[16:28:02] <CompanionCube> that's what i said i'm using
L995[16:34:56] * AmandaC downloads terminology, plays with it some
L996[16:35:16] <AmandaC> g2g though, time to fo out for my birthday dinner
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L999[16:51:27] <Michiyo> Happy Birthday AmandaC!
L1000[16:53:45] <AmandaC> Danke
L1001[16:58:36] <AmandaC> (it was actually yesterday, but the roads were to icy to go out)
L1002[16:59:36] <Michiyo> aww
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L1006[17:20:36] <MoonBaseAlpha> This is HalinitesEmmisary, I got OPPM working
L1007[17:20:45] <MoonBaseAlpha> Now I'm talking to you from the mooooooon
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L1009[17:21:51] <HalinitesEmmisary> that's pretty cool moon base
L1010[17:22:08] <MoonBaseAlpha> I know right
L1011[17:22:14] <MoonBaseAlpha> imma stop talking to myself now
L1012[17:22:30] <cpp> здарова хлопцы!
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L1014[17:23:24] <AmandaC> %translate ^
L1015[17:23:24] <MichiBot> SUP dude guys!
L1016[17:23:36] <WOPRNITEsEmissary> I like how I got it backwards such that the one in space is not Halinite
L1017[17:24:01] <WOPRNITEsEmissary> WHY AM I BLUE
L1018[17:24:04] <WOPRNITEsEmissary> WHAT HAPPENED
L1019[17:24:47] <AmandaC> It's based on your nick
L1020[17:25:08] <WOPRNITEsEmissary> oh
L1021[17:25:16] <WOPRNITEsEmissary> I suppose that makes some semblance of sense
L1022[17:25:52] <WOPRNITEsEmissary> Now I can test /msg without bothering everyone else
L1023[17:26:10] <Izaya> Goddamnit, I left all my mmail stuff on my desktop again
L1024[17:26:38] <cpp> hello, did you think about adding terminal sounds from Fallout?
L1025[17:27:02] <HalinitesEmmisary> ALRIGHT SICK
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L1028[17:27:29] <HalinitesEmmisary> ALRIGHT looks like /msg doesnt work in 1.5 either
L1029[17:27:32] <HalinitesEmmisary> SICK STUFF
L1030[17:28:08] <cpp> %tell
L1031[17:28:08] <MichiBot> cpp: Who did you want to tell?
L1032[17:28:47] <WOPRNITEsEmissary> I also need to fix the names cause I spelled emissary diffwerently in each one and I don't know which one is actually correct
L1033[17:28:59] <cpp> %tell payonel hello, did you think about adding terminal sounds from Fallout?
L1034[17:28:59] <MichiBot> cpp: payonel will be notified of this message when next seen.
L1035[17:29:12] <cpp> %tell
L1036[17:29:13] <MichiBot> cpp: Who did you want to tell?
L1037[17:29:28] <WOPRNITEsEmissary> I spelled it right here, alright cool
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L1039[17:30:15] <HalinitesEmissary> fixed it!
L1040[17:30:47] <HalinitesEmissary> imma stop annoying all the actual programmers now
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L1044[17:36:09] <MoonBaseAlpha> guys where's the config file when installed using oppm
L1045[17:36:35] <MoonBaseAlpha> wocchat.cfg is blank
L1046[17:36:46] <cpp> % tell payonel I think you understand, add interesting sounds, keystrokes, display symbols on the screen, it seems to me that such functions will add an atmosphere, there is already a sound of working with the disc, it is worth developing this idea. If you are interested, I can send a question to the github.
L1047[17:36:53] <cpp> =(
L1048[17:37:43] <cpp> does payonel read the chat?
L1049[17:38:16] <MoonBaseAlpha> Wait I thought there was supposed to be no space between % and tell
L1050[17:39:08] <Arcan> MoonBaseAlpha: you are correct
L1051[17:39:31] <MoonBaseAlpha> why is it beeping, what is this magic
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L1055[17:41:24] <payonel> meh?
L1056[17:42:04] <payonel> cpp: well, the literal fallout sounds are not licensed for us to use :)
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L1059[17:42:53] <payonel> but, if you want to produce new sounds that you'd put in the creative commons (which is where our visual and audio assets are), i'd be inclined to consider the addition
L1060[17:43:05] <cpp> payonel:
L1061[17:43:06] <cpp> I did not literally say.
L1062[17:43:26] <payonel> 'adding terminal sounds from Fallout'
L1063[17:43:49] <payonel> anyways, like i said, if you want to create some
L1064[17:43:53] <cpp> my dumb English
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L1066[17:44:13] <cpp> stupid*
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L1068[17:44:47] <HalinitesEmmisary> Alright, there's no way to have private two-way communication on wocchat in 1.5 OC.
L1069[17:44:52] <HalinitesEmmisary> Worth a shot.
L1070[17:45:03] <payonel> HalinitesEmmisary: why do you need 1.5 oc?
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L1073[17:46:52] <HalinitesEmmisary> Because I am on a modded server that I don't control and the people installed 1.5
L1074[17:47:24] <HalinitesEmmisary> And according to them adding or updating any mods will require a full restart of the server
L1075[17:48:02] <HalinitesEmmisary> and people don't want to lose the bases and stuff they've built up over almost a year
L1076[17:48:53] <cpp> payonel: I did not understand a bit, if I find or create a sound, will you write the code? Or do I need to write a function completely?
L1077[17:49:52] <HalinitesEmmisary> Can I change my default nick at all or do I have to live with it being mispelled forever
L1078[17:51:28] <Kodos> /nick newnick
L1079[17:52:10] <HalinitesEmmisary> Kodos: Well yeah but that doesn't persist if i quit
L1080[17:52:28] <Kodos> Are you on an OC computer?
L1081[17:52:43] <HalinitesEmmisary> yeah
L1082[17:52:50] <AmandaC> I think that wocchat has a command line option doesn't it?
L1083[17:52:51] <HalinitesEmmisary> 1.5 OC for 1.7.10
L1084[17:52:51] <Kodos> IIRC it uses your MC nickname, could be wrong though
L1085[17:53:29] <Kodos> Err rather it defaults to your MC Nick
L1086[17:53:39] <HalinitesEmmisary> No it asks for a default nick the first time you open it
L1087[17:53:56] <Kodos> Then it's likely stored in a file somewhere
L1088[17:54:13] <HalinitesEmmisary> I'll check the cfg I guess
L1089[17:54:14] <Kodos> Are you using the default IRC program?
L1090[17:54:29] <HalinitesEmmisary> No, wocchat
L1091[17:54:39] <HalinitesEmmisary> 1 sec
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L1094[17:55:25] <HalinitesEmmisary> Not saved in the cfg and I have no idea where else to check
L1095[17:56:14] <Kodos> Exit wocchat, and then check the cfg at line 26 or so
L1096[17:56:27] <Kodos> It may not write to the config until it exist
L1097[17:56:30] <Kodos> exits, too
L1098[17:57:02] <HalinitesEmmisary> I did that though
L1099[17:57:20] <HalinitesEmmisary> Exited wocchat, checked cfg, looked over it all, didn't see my nick anywhere
L1100[17:58:23] <Kodos> Then I'd guess you'd need to poke gamax92
L1101[17:59:25] <HalinitesEmmisary> Sick stuff, guess I'll just have to change it manually every time I log in
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L1103[17:59:43] <payonel> cpp: i'm saying if you make the audio file with "creative commons" license, and you want us to add it to OC for sound effects, i will consider adding the sound effect code to use your audio file
L1104[18:00:04] <payonel> cpp: BUT ... please check with me first what audio you want to create+add, I might not think we need sound for it
L1105[18:00:47] <Izaya> So, anyone know a way to grab files from a Windows machine that doesn't have a file share set up or anything?
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L1107[18:01:38] <payonel> Izaya: install winscp on it and upload it somewheres :)
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L1109[18:02:10] <Izaya> I'm at work and the machine is at home :|
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L1111[18:03:11] <payonel> can you rdp to it?
L1112[18:03:18] <Izaya> ... Maybe.
L1113[18:03:29] <Izaya> What port does that use again?
L1114[18:03:35] <payonel> 3..67?
L1115[18:04:01] <payonel> 3389
L1116[18:04:10] <cpp> it is a pity, it would be atmospheric.
L1117[18:04:21] <payonel> cpp: i didn't say no
L1118[18:04:24] <payonel> i said, check with me first
L1119[18:04:33] <payonel> then, if you create the audio file for it, i would consider adding it
L1120[18:04:58] <cpp> payonel: ok!
L1121[18:07:09] <cpp> How can I check the audio for copyright?
L1122[18:07:22] <payonel> if you make it, you choose your own
L1123[18:07:31] <payonel> if you find it, the author will tell you
L1124[18:08:02] <Izaya> no RDP
L1125[18:08:04] <Izaya> oh well
L1126[18:08:10] <Izaya> guess I have to wait a few hours :|
L1127[18:08:28] <cpp> github checks files?
L1128[18:08:40] <AmandaC> No it doesn't
L1129[18:08:43] <payonel> checks files for what?
L1130[18:08:59] <AmandaC> That's gotten from the projects LICENCE file
L1131[18:09:28] <Izaya> Out for now.
L1132[18:09:47] <cpp> on the Internet, billions of files, sounds, even if I take something, how will it find it? Just curious.
L1133[18:10:17] <payonel> depends ... i guess :/
L1134[18:10:43] <payonel> you need to know who the author is, then ask them
L1135[18:10:48] <payonel> or find their website, and see the license
L1136[18:11:34] <cpp> here the question is not stealing, I was not going to do it, but the sounds of the keys are not so different.
L1137[18:12:04] <payonel> i dont think people will want sounds for every key press
L1138[18:12:47] <cpp> you can make an option in the config
L1139[18:13:18] <cpp> boolean
L1140[18:13:51] <payonel> :) you could do this with computronics
L1141[18:13:57] <payonel> no changes needed
L1142[18:14:08] <payonel> handle key_down events, and play an audio file
L1143[18:14:13] <payonel> then you could use any audio file you want
L1144[18:14:41] <cpp> you are the author, your opinion means a lot, if you do not think so, then so do I.
L1145[18:15:17] <CompanionCube> Izaya: doesn't windows have some hidden shares enabled by default
L1146[18:15:40] <Kodos> Honestly, sound on keydown seems easy enough to do with an rc on startup
L1147[18:15:51] <Kodos> Maybe on key_up though
L1148[18:15:51] <Mimiru> It'd be the first thing I'd disable too :P
L1149[18:15:52] <payonel> yeah, with computronics
L1150[18:16:00] <CompanionCube> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Administrative_share
L1151[18:16:01] <payonel> which can play the sound
L1152[18:16:05] <Kodos> Yer
L1153[18:16:34] <Kodos> Though, tbh, I'd rather get startup/shutdown sounds from W95 and use them ?
L1154[18:17:05] <cpp> payonel: fingercomp talked about sound in Computronics
L1155[18:18:50] <cpp> but where did the sangar go? I watched the repository, it was not commits long ago.
L1156[18:19:37] <payonel> cpp: i'm the current dev (maintainer)
L1157[18:20:41] <cpp> we have a whole forum dedicated to opencomputers.
L1158[18:20:45] <cpp> I think you know from fingercomp
L1159[18:21:48] <cpp> or maybe not, but I saw your name in his program repository
L1160[18:22:37] <Kodos> Anyone know if theoriginalbit is still around or if he's vanished
L1161[18:22:40] <payonel> my name in fingercomp's repo? i dont know what you're talking about. and a forum? are you talking about https://oc.cil.li/ ?
L1162[18:23:16] <cpp> payonel: no, ru forum
L1163[18:26:29] <cpp> payonel:
L1164[18:26:32] <cpp> I'm sorry, I confused you with vx13
L1165[18:26:59] <payonel> i get that a lot
L1166[18:27:51] <cpp> payonel: =)
L1167[18:28:24] <Izaya> CompanionCube: oh shit right
L1168[18:28:25] <cpp> vx13 also develops opencomputers?
L1169[18:28:26] <Izaya> C$
L1170[18:28:50] <payonel> many people have contributed
L1171[18:29:03] <payonel> but does he have write access to the repo? no
L1172[18:30:27] <cpp> Now I learned more English than in all 10 years.
L1173[18:31:21] <cpp> the language barrier is very difficult.
L1174[18:35:00] <cpp> %time
L1175[18:35:00] <MichiBot> cpp: 2018-Mar-09 00:35:00
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L1177[18:37:23] <HalinitesEmissary> there. I fixed it.
L1178[18:37:34] <HalinitesEmissary> By wiping my entire hard drive and reinstalling
L1179[18:37:38] <payonel> HalinitesEmissary: why do you need oc 1.5?
L1180[18:37:42] <HalinitesEmissary> Might be a bit extreme, but it worked
L1181[18:38:10] <HalinitesEmissary> payonel: I'm on a server not controlled by me and the people in charge chose 1.5 for some reason
L1182[18:38:21] <HalinitesEmissary> And updating it, according to them, would require a full server reset
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L1184[18:40:30] <HalinitesEmissary> sick okay nicks fixed
L1185[18:40:31] <Izaya> https://i.4cdn.org/g/1520476661483.jpg
L1186[18:40:43] <HalinitesEmissary> cya folks
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L1188[18:41:26] <cpp> payonel: well, the best fix to you and fewer bugs. =) Goodbye
L1189[18:41:34] <payonel> :) thanks
L1190[18:43:00] <cpp> maybe I'll be back with the best knowledge of your language and then we'll talk on an equal footing, but now I have a brain explosion.
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L1192[18:56:45] <AmandaC> Izaya: whazzat?
L1193[18:57:01] <Izaya> Something lisp-ish, in FORTH
L1194[18:57:06] <AmandaC> I see
L1195[18:57:19] <AmandaC> Izaya: this may be of interest to you, then: https://github.com/bakpakin/Fennel
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L1198[19:39:25] <Izaya> ooooo
L1199[19:40:08] <Kodos> Any of you lot play Skyforge? Any platform, just have a couple of questions
L1200[20:01:31] <Izaya> https://i.4cdn.org/g/1520544322904.jpg
L1201[20:02:28] <CompanionCube> Izaya: so microsoft is finally making moves towards it's own shitty garden?
L1202[20:02:49] <Izaya> Aye.
L1203[20:06:26] <Temia> That is what they always say, and that is what never happens.
L1204[20:06:38] <CompanionCube> https://mastodon.9net.org/@samis/99651497567231480 'nuff said
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L1210[21:06:58] <AmandaC> While the generates lua is cirtinely a bit ugly, this isn't too bad: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/v4wF5rc4/place-shaft.lisp
L1211[21:09:46] <AmandaC> ( Note, havn't tested to see if it'd even work,and won't be tonight )
L1212[21:11:24] <AmandaC> So many `()`s in the generated lua
L1213[21:11:35] <AmandaC> Izaya, CompanionCube ^
L1214[21:11:48] <AmandaC> Now to lay down and chill some
L1215[21:12:19] <CompanionCube> is this in that fennel lang
L1216[21:13:16] * ` coughs
L1217[21:13:36] <`> can someone get me out of the lua with all these parenthesis
L1218[21:13:46] <CompanionCube> `: )
L1219[21:14:04] <`> ahhhhhhhhhh
L1220[21:17:11] <AmandaC> CompanionCube: yes, it is
L1221[21:18:31] <AmandaC> It's totally not the lesbian part of my brain that keeps miss parsing it as flannel
L1222[21:23:24] <Izaya> https://github.com/stascorp/rdpwrap
L1223[21:28:21] <AmandaC> Interesting
L1224[21:29:31] <AmandaC> %choose anime or bed
L1225[21:29:31] <MichiBot> AmandaC: bed
L1226[21:29:40] <AmandaC> I concur. Night nerds
L1227[21:29:56] <Izaya> o/
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L1232[23:37:49] <Izaya> Hm :|
L1233[23:38:49] <Izaya> Is publishing just the mmail server worthwhile? Not very happy with the client yet
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