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L11[03:37:43] 
<Forecaster>
@Vexatos I think the last upload works now
<Forecaster>
@Vexatos I think the last upload works nowL12[03:37:44] <Forecaster>
maybe
<Forecaster>
maybeL13[03:38:34] <Vexatos> It
does >_<
<Vexatos> It
does >_<L14[03:38:40] <Vexatos> I
am watching right now >_<
<Vexatos> I
am watching right now >_<L15[04:11:53] <William>
Hey everyone
<William>
Hey everyoneL16[04:13:15] <Forecaster>
hello
<Forecaster>
helloL17[04:13:59] <William>
Fancy seeing you here Forecaster, I thought you were diehard IRC
only. ??
<William>
Fancy seeing you here Forecaster, I thought you were diehard IRC
only. ??L18[04:14:29] <Forecaster>
I haven't used irc in ages now :P
<Forecaster>
I haven't used irc in ages now :PL19[04:19:21] <Vexatos> Forecaster, come
back D:
L20[04:19:32] <Vexatos> We don't need this
@Forecaster impostor
L21[04:19:38] <Forecaster>
:P
<Forecaster>
:PL22[04:19:57] <Forecaster>
I am still on irc, and would fall back to it if discord stopped
working for an extended period
<Forecaster>
I am still on irc, and would fall back to it if discord stopped
working for an extended periodL23[04:20:58] <William> Is
Sangar ever around this place?
<William> Is
Sangar ever around this place?L24[04:21:09] <Forecaster>
not really
<Forecaster>
not reallyL25[04:21:20] <Forecaster>
he pops up now and then but he's not active anymore
<Forecaster>
he pops up now and then but he's not active anymoreL26[04:21:25] <William>
Ah
<William>
AhL27[04:21:33] ⇦
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L28[04:21:34] <Forecaster>
payonel has taken over OC
<Forecaster>
payonel has taken over OCL29[04:21:44] ⇨
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L30[04:21:50] <Vexatos> Yea he committed
the balsphemous sin they call "getting a full-time
job"
L31[04:21:55] <Vexatos> blasphemous*
even
L32[04:21:57] <William>
Well, this was specifically a question about Eris and the
licensing.
<William>
Well, this was specifically a question about Eris and the
licensing.L33[04:22:09] <Forecaster>
Eris?
<Forecaster>
Eris?L34[04:22:11] <Vexatos> just DM him on
discord
L35[04:22:20] <William>
The Lua thing that powers OC.
<William>
The Lua thing that powers OC.L36[04:22:23] <Forecaster>
ah
<Forecaster>
ahL37[04:22:25] <Vexatos> isn't eris
MIT?
L38[04:22:27] <Vexatos> https://github.com/fnuecke/eris/blob/master/LICENSE
L39[04:22:28] <Vexatos> yes it is
L40[04:22:29] <William>
Well, used to power it, maybe it changed.
<William>
Well, used to power it, maybe it changed.L41[04:23:19] <William>
You're right
<William>
You're rightL42[04:23:32] <William>
It's almost a verbatim copy of MIT, just without actually
mentioning MIT. ??
<William>
It's almost a verbatim copy of MIT, just without actually
mentioning MIT. ??L43[04:24:21] <Vexatos> and Lua is MIT
too
L44[04:24:21] <Vexatos> so
L45[04:24:35] <Vexatos> literally as long
as you keep that very license file there, you're fine
L46[04:24:51] <William>
Yeah, no need to even be open source, but if we are, the license
has to come along.
<William>
Yeah, no need to even be open source, but if we are, the license
has to come along.L47[04:25:03] <Vexatos> even if you're
closed source
L48[04:25:07] <Vexatos> the license has to
be shipped in the binary
L49[04:25:17] <William>
Ah, that makes sense.
<William>
Ah, that makes sense.L50[04:25:21] <Vexatos> "
L51[04:25:22] <Vexatos> all copies or
substantial portions of the Software."
L52[04:25:22] <Vexatos> The above copyright
notice and this permission notice shall be included in
L53[04:25:35] <Vexatos> that license file
needs to be anywhere this code appears
L54[04:25:38] <Vexatos> compiled or
not
L55[04:25:41] <Vexatos> that's the only
requirement
L56[04:26:10] <Vexatos> What do you want to
use eris for?
L57[04:27:08] <William>
I'm under NDA, so can't really say. Just looking into some
options.
<William>
I'm under NDA, so can't really say. Just looking into some
options.L58[04:27:49] <William> I
remember Eris being made specifically to handle the
off/on/pause/resume part of OC, and this is a requirement for a
project.
<William> I
remember Eris being made specifically to handle the
off/on/pause/resume part of OC, and this is a requirement for a
project.L59[04:27:54] <Vexatos> That tells me you
are working on a program that has a plugin API frontend for users
and you want that to be Lua :^)
L60[04:28:18] <Vexatos> at least that is
90% of the use Lua gets anyway
L61[04:28:26] <Vexatos> plugin frontends
>_<
L62[04:28:36] <William>
Yeah, and it's for game where games can be saved/loaded and
paused/resumed.
<William>
Yeah, and it's for game where games can be saved/loaded and
paused/resumed.L63[04:28:44] <William>
Being able to save the Lua state is pretty important
<William>
Being able to save the Lua state is pretty importantL64[04:28:45] <Vexatos> also that is
literally all eris is there for, yes: You can save the entire VM
state and call stack and resume it
L65[04:29:18] <Vexatos> as far as I know,
it is the only up-to-date implementation doing that
L66[04:29:23] <Vexatos> (i.e. supporting
Lua 5.3.4)
L67[04:29:49] <Vexatos> (https://github.com/fnuecke/eris/tree/master-lua5.3)
L68[04:31:21] <William>
Yeah, seems like it.
<William>
Yeah, seems like it.L69[04:31:35] <William>
It's a niche requirement, but awesome to find solutions supporting
it.
<William>
It's a niche requirement, but awesome to find solutions supporting
it.L70[04:31:42] <William>
And even more awesome that it's open source.
<William>
And even more awesome that it's open source.L71[04:31:43] <Vexatos> @William I mean
most pieces of software, even with saves like factorio which has
Lua mods, just make mods resume state on their own
L72[04:32:03] <Vexatos> I mean
L73[04:32:07] <Vexatos> Of course it is
opensource
L74[04:32:10] <Vexatos> this is
OpenComputers >_>
L75[04:32:17] <William>
Hehe
<William>
HeheL76[04:32:38] <Vexatos> I just
realized
L77[04:32:44] <Vexatos> Sangar needs to
update the readme
L78[04:32:53] <Vexatos> to mention it
actually supports Lua 5.3 too >_>
L79[04:32:57] <Vexatos> that branch,
anyhow
L80[04:33:05] <Vexatos> @William by the
way, _highly_ recommend targetting Lua 5.3
L81[04:33:13] <Vexatos> and not 5.2 or
(please no) 5.1
L82[04:33:36] <William>
I'll pass that along, but I'm pretty sure since it'll be a new
system, we'll go for as new as possible.
<William>
I'll pass that along, but I'm pretty sure since it'll be a new
system, we'll go for as new as possible.L83[04:33:48] <Vexatos> 5.1 is just ancient
garbage by now and 5.2 and 5.3 are mostly similar but 5.3 got
bitshifting operators << >> as well as other binary
operators like | and &
L84[04:34:20] <Vexatos> If you decide to go
with eris, you can go as far as the very latest 5.3.4 which is
nice
L85[04:34:20] <William>
Nice
<William>
NiceL86[04:34:48] <William>
I'm not even a huge Lua fan, but the versatility can't easily be
matched by much else. ??
<William>
I'm not even a huge Lua fan, but the versatility can't easily be
matched by much else. ??L87[04:35:11] <William>
And I always advocate for Lua as scripting since it's so well
supported and so easy to get into.
<William>
And I always advocate for Lua as scripting since it's so well
supported and so easy to get into.L88[04:35:20] <Vexatos> Lua is not a good
general-purpose language, but it sure as heck is both easy to learn
and easy to embed
L89[04:35:23] <Vexatos> and easy to
sandbox
L90[04:35:33] <William>
Yeah, and sandbox is important here.
<William>
Yeah, and sandbox is important here.L91[04:35:38] <Vexatos> And if you need
ideas/help sandboxing the environment properly, look at machine.lua
in OpenComputers
L92[04:35:57] <William>
The systems users are making will be running on other users
machines, so it needs to be pretty much air tight.
<William>
The systems users are making will be running on other users
machines, so it needs to be pretty much air tight.L93[04:35:57] <Vexatos> I consider that one
a pretty good way to get an idea on how to sandbox it, in case
you've never done it before
L94[04:36:28] <William>
Thanks, I'll pass that along as well. It's not certain I'll even
work with it, I just rememberd Eris when the talk about Lua came
up.
<William>
Thanks, I'll pass that along as well. It's not certain I'll even
work with it, I just rememberd Eris when the talk about Lua came
up.L95[04:36:31] <Vexatos> rule #1: Do not
allow metatables on anything but tables and functions since those
are the only actual "objects" in Lua :P
L96[04:36:33] <William>
Thanks, I'll pass that along as well. It's not certain I'll even
work with it, I just remembered Eris when the talk about Lua came
up. [Edited]
<William>
Thanks, I'll pass that along as well. It's not certain I'll even
work with it, I just remembered Eris when the talk about Lua came
up. [Edited]L97[04:37:00] <Vexatos> if you add a
metatable to a string, all strings in the entire VM will have that
metatable
L98[04:37:06] <Vexatos> baaaad idead
L99[04:37:15] <Vexatos> Lua is fun :I
L100[04:37:30] <Izaya> I heard about that
particular behavior :D
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L102[04:37:43] <Vexatos> yea
L103[04:37:48] <Izaya> So is that how
people broke every CC computer?
L104[04:38:06] <Vexatos> I mean
L105[04:38:12] <William>
God I hate GitHubs search function ... Where is machine.lua
located?
<William>
God I hate GitHubs search function ... Where is machine.lua
located?L106[04:38:14] <Vexatos> which instance of
breaking every CC computer are you talking about
L107[04:38:27] <Vexatos> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/blob/master-MC1.12/src/main/resources/assets/opencomputers/lua/machine.lua
L108[04:38:37] <William>
Thanks ?
<William>
Thanks ?L109[04:38:39] <Vexatos> this is the file
the OC Lua VM loads before all others
L110[04:38:45] <Vexatos> when booting a
computer
L111[04:39:00] <Vexatos> some stuff in
there is utility like checkArg
L112[04:39:04] <Vexatos> (still useful to
have)
L113[04:39:22] <Vexatos> (checkArg checks
whether a variable has one of a number of types)
L114[04:39:33] <William>
Thanks, that's a huge help.
<William>
Thanks, that's a huge help.L115[04:39:34] <Vexatos> the important
stuff is the metatable magic below
L116[04:40:32] <Vexatos> this is all MIT
too, but I am not sure I'd consider a single file a
"substantial portion" in case you do decide to copy some
of it. Might still be good practice
L117[04:41:18] <SquidDev> William: Instead
of using GitHub's search, just press "t" and type
"machine.lua".
L118[04:41:22] <Vexatos> @William
importantly, whoever ends up implementing the Lua frontend - they
better not just copypaste code but actually understand what they
are writing there
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L120[04:42:05] <William>
SquidDev, Thanks so so so much. I never knew ...
<William>
SquidDev, Thanks so so so much. I never knew ...L121[04:42:06] <Vexatos> I've seen way too
many bad implementations of sandboxing due to someone trying to
save time
L122[04:42:12] <William>
I've been raging like an idiot for years.
<William>
I've been raging like an idiot for years.L123[04:42:14] <Vexatos> by not actually
learning Lua
L124[04:42:27] <William>
Yeah, that wont be an issue here Vexatos.
<William>
Yeah, that wont be an issue here Vexatos.L125[04:42:41] <Vexatos> @William https://help.github.com/articles/using-keyboard-shortcuts/
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L127[04:42:49] <Vexatos> you're
welcome
L128[04:43:01] <William>
... I have several projects on GitHub and never realized ??
<William>
... I have several projects on GitHub and never realized ??L129[04:43:27] *
Vexatos coughs https://puu.sh/zzB0O/c3537a7adc.png
L130[04:43:42] <William>
Right ... I don't have **that** many projects.
<William>
Right ... I don't have **that** many projects.L131[04:43:48] <Vexatos> well most of them
aren't mine >-<
L133[04:44:08] <Vexatos> I have more forks
on github than in my house, that's for sure
L134[04:44:11] <SquidDev> How many are
forks just for translations?
L135[04:44:17] <Vexatos> 223
L136[04:44:20] <Vexatos> wait
L137[04:44:25] <Vexatos> "just"
for translations
L138[04:44:26] <Vexatos> uuh
L139[04:44:30] <Vexatos> I have made 223
translations
L140[04:44:35] <Vexatos> some of those I
also have written code for
L141[04:44:38] <SquidDev> Ahhhh, fair
doos.
L142[04:44:40] <William>
What language are you translating to?
<William>
What language are you translating to?L143[04:44:43] <Vexatos> German
L144[04:44:45] <Vexatos> and sometimes
Latin
L145[04:44:51] <William>
... latin?
<William>
... latin?L146[04:45:01] <Vexatos> Gotta use those
six years of Latin somehow
L147[04:45:12] <William>
For when the pope wants to play some Minecraft?
<William>
For when the pope wants to play some Minecraft?L148[04:45:25] <Vexatos> for when the
Latin nerd wants to play some Minecraft
L149[04:45:35] <Vexatos> Minecraft
supports Latin, so
L150[04:45:48] <SquidDev> It also supports
Pirate, doesn't mean people need to write translations for
it.
L151[04:45:54] <Vexatos> My favourite was
being able to translate "cookie maker" to
crustulofactor
L152[04:46:39] <William>
Well, when I need some fancy sounding spell names in my next
D&D session, I know who to come to. ??
<William>
Well, when I need some fancy sounding spell names in my next
D&D session, I know who to come to. ??L153[04:46:46] <Vexatos> Mostly German
though >_> I'm a native speaker with pretty good linguistic
capabilities owing to me having spoken this language for over
eighteen years now
L154[04:46:55] <asie> I actually used
Vex's Latin skills for Preston
L155[04:46:59] <asie> Milluple Compressed
Block ofIron
L156[04:47:00] *
Vexatos still doesn't get how people can be bad at their native
language
L157[04:47:01] <asie> etc
L158[04:47:10] <asie> Vexatos: they don't
care as much as non-natives about sounding fluent
L159[04:47:21] *
Vexatos throws quattuorquadringentuple compressed clay at asie for
maximum balance
L160[04:47:51] <Vexatos> asie, there is a
major difference between sounding fluent, that's just dialect, and
_writing well_
L161[04:47:58] <Vexatos> There is only one
way to _write_ German correctly
L162[04:48:04] <William>
You see this a lot with American/British too. You'll have people
like us, trying to do proper grammar and spelling. And then a
native speaker will abbreviate everything and ignore any semblance
of grammar. ??
<William>
You see this a lot with American/British too. You'll have people
like us, trying to do proper grammar and spelling. And then a
native speaker will abbreviate everything and ignore any semblance
of grammar. ??L163[04:48:23] <Vexatos> When I read texts
and there are commas missing everywhere
L164[04:48:24] <Vexatos> Just
L165[04:48:25] <Vexatos> how
L166[04:48:33] <Vexatos> You all had
German lessons since you were 6
L167[04:48:42] <Vexatos> PLACE THE GOD
DAMN COMMA WHERE IT SHOULD BE
L168[04:48:48] <William>
It's the same here in Denmark. ??
<William>
It's the same here in Denmark. ??L169[04:48:58] <asie> Vexatos: sounding as
in appearing
L170[04:49:00] <William>
Well well well, my timing wasn't half bad, I see Sangar is online
now.
<William>
Well well well, my timing wasn't half bad, I see Sangar is online
now.L171[04:49:01] <asie> not just
speech
L172[04:49:10] <SquidDev> Vexatos: Same
reason English people can't use English? You just get lazy.
L173[04:49:15] <Vexatos> @Sangar someone
wants to steal your code!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111
L174[04:49:29] <William>
*stuffs code into swag bag and runs*
<William>
*stuffs code into swag bag and runs*L175[04:49:37] <Vexatos> [slapstick
music]
L176[04:49:56] <Vexatos> SquidDev, BUT IN
AN ACADEMIC EXPERIMENT REPORT
L177[04:50:01] <Vexatos> WITH A GRADE ON
IT
L178[04:50:14] <William>
Haha
<William>
HahaL179[04:50:16] <SquidDev> OK, that's more
problematic.
L180[04:50:27] <Vexatos> Whenever I work
with people on a report together
L181[04:50:31] <Vexatos> I have to
spellcheck _everything_
L182[04:50:40] <Vexatos> I do typos too,
sure
L183[04:50:44] <Vexatos> but those aren't
typos
L184[04:50:44] <William>
Yeah, this happened when I was in college too. So many errors in
the most basic sentences.
<William>
Yeah, this happened when I was in college too. So many errors in
the most basic sentences.L185[04:50:54] <Vexatos> those are
genuinely not knowing where to place a comma :I
L186[04:51:36] <SquidDev> The, trouble is
that, your to precise with language. Embrace its, fluidity.
L187[04:51:50] <Vexatos> you did a t...I
hate you
L188[04:52:01] <SquidDev> If it's any
consolation, that sentence hurt to type.
L189[04:52:30] <Vexatos> A few days ago, I
actively tried mispronouncing a word, took me three attempts to
pronounce it wrongly
L190[04:52:31] <William> It
hurt to read
<William> It
hurt to readL191[04:52:32] <Izaya> Y'know how
sometimes you just want to murder someone?
L192[04:52:40] <Izaya> Now is one of those
times.
L193[04:52:49] <Vexatos> I don't feel like
killing
L194[04:53:23] <William>
Just aggressive correcting?
<William>
Just aggressive correcting?L195[04:53:30] <William>
Like a badly coded AI.
<William>
Like a badly coded AI.L196[04:54:40] <Vexatos> don't insult
Sangar
L197[04:54:47] <Vexatos> he doesn't code
_that_ badly
L198[04:55:10] <Vexatos> and I am not
_that_ badly coded, either :I
L199[04:57:04] <Forecaster>
I just read the sentences as Walken :P
<Forecaster>
I just read the sentences as Walken :PL200[04:57:54] <Vexatos> anyhoo, time to
go play ice hockey
L201[04:58:12] <William>
The ice hockey playing Latin guy.
<William>
The ice hockey playing Latin guy.L202[04:58:27] <Vexatos> this is the first
time since 2013 that our conveniently ice-hockey-field-sized pond
has been frozen for long enough for us to be able to play on
it
L203[04:58:45] <William>
Sure has been cold lately
<William>
Sure has been cold latelyL204[04:59:04] <Vexatos> it's only -10°C
:I
L205[04:59:31] <SquidDev>
"Only". We don't normally get snow, so the entire country
has gone to pot the last few days :/.
L206[05:00:01] <Vexatos> we don't normally
get snow, but Germany is well-prepared for the off-chance of it
happening
L207[05:00:21] <Izaya> Vexatos: is it
valid to have a package with no files but multiple
dependencies?
L208[05:00:31] <Vexatos> of course
L209[05:00:34] <Izaya> oppm package, that
is
L210[05:00:37] <Izaya> oh shiny
L211[05:00:41] <Vexatos> the entire files
key is optional
L212[05:00:46] <Vexatos> but just make it
empty
L213[05:00:48] <Vexatos> to be sure
:P
L214[05:00:50] <Izaya> excellent
L215[05:01:04] <Vexatos> oppm might be
trash
L216[05:01:08] <Vexatos> but it works, you
know :I
L217[05:01:16] <Vexatos> of course it
supports metapackages :I
L218[05:01:20] <Izaya> was just checking
it was valid
L219[05:01:28] <Vexatos> anyhoo
L220[05:01:33] <Vexatos> ice skating
time
L221[05:01:35] <Vexatos> bye bye
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L223[05:01:37] <Izaya> (the PsychOS
package manager didn't support dependencies, so oppm has a lot of
advantages already)
L224[05:01:45] <Izaya> tfw
L225[05:01:52] <Vexatos>
tfw
<Vexatos>
tfwL226[05:02:10] <Izaya> :D
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L229[06:01:08] <WatchtowerOrator> Time for
a new episode from Forecaster! You're welcome!
L230[06:01:08] <WatchtowerOrator> https://youtu.be/XwJN9JhU7oc - RailcraftLP [Episode
84] - Technical Difficulties
L231[06:01:08] <WatchtowerOrator> Tags on
this video:
crafting,ic2,industrialcraft2,opencomputers,lua,OpenOS,foundry,cabling
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L233[06:01:08] <MichiBot> RailcraftLP-
[Episode 84] - Technical Difficulties | length: 32m 55s
| Likes: 0 Dislikes: 0 Views: 0 | by Forecaster |
Published On 3/3/2018
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L237[06:11:41] <SquidDev> How was ice
skating?
L238[06:11:56] <Vexatos> nice
L239[06:12:13] <Vexatos> it still was a
sort of running so I got exhausted quickly
L240[06:12:23] <Vexatos> Skiing is the
only type of sport that doesn't exhaust me >_<
L241[06:14:44] <SquidDev> I've never
skied, but it looks like it should be exhausting. ¯\_(?)_/¯
L242[06:20:06] <Vexatos> I haven't done
any regular type of sport for many years and I can still do skiing
all day for a week without feeling any worse than at the start of
the week :I
L243[06:20:09] <Vexatos> it's super
easy
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L248[07:15:18] <jvekstrem-extrem>
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L251[08:19:05] <AmandaC> Wheeee
L252[08:19:41] <AmandaC> A third of my
county is without power
L253[08:19:57] <Izaya> Should've invested
in solar.
L254[08:21:14] <AmandaC> We were going to,
then a medical thing happen so we couldn't afford it anymore
L255[08:22:17] <Izaya> no I mean, the
county
L256[08:22:22] <AmandaC> I see
L257[08:22:24] <Izaya> I assume that's the
equivelant of a shire here
L258[08:22:29] <Izaya> (australian
politics joke)
L259[08:23:04] <AmandaC> Unlikely to
happen, since this is a massively republican leaning county
L260[08:23:53] <Izaya> I assume that means
conservative
L261[08:23:58] <AmandaC> Yup
L262[08:24:11] <Izaya> mmh
L263[08:24:19] <AmandaC> And they're
mostly in the pocket of the oil barrens
L264[08:24:35] <Izaya> yeah our dumbass PM
here blamed renewable power after a v. big blackout
L265[08:24:41] <Izaya> despite it being
the only stuff still running
L266[08:25:05] <AmandaC> He just read the
script he was given
L267[08:25:41] <Izaya> Sucks that they're
all just puppets
L268[08:25:45] <AmandaC> Indeed
L269[08:25:50] <Izaya> abolish political
parties
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L272[08:45:58] <Skye> uhhh
L273[08:46:47] <Skye> Mimiru, that was a
webchat? It's unlikely to be a spam thing?
L274[08:48:04] <AmandaC> Webchat though an
open proxy
L275[08:48:46] <AmandaC> Plus you can't
trust the ident really
L276[08:58:15] <Mimiru> This IP address
was detected and listed 316 times in the past 28 days, and 0 times
in the past 24 hours. The most recent detection was at Wed Feb 28
20:45:00 2018 UTC +/- 5 minutes
L277[08:58:21] <Mimiru> Your IP address
(5.153.128.50) is sending email in such a way as to strongly
indicate that the IP itself is operating somes sort of spam
package.
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L279[09:03:49] <gary159> Hi guys
L280[09:03:56] <gary159> Can i have a
question?
L281[09:04:55] <Arcan> don't ask to ask,
just ask
L282[09:05:02] <gary159> ok
L283[09:05:14] <gary159> How do i use
servers in the new version of OC ?
L284[09:05:42] <Arcan> and hopefully
within 10 minutes or so someone who knows the answer will help
you~
L285[09:05:53] <gary159> ok
L286[09:05:54] <gary159> thx
L287[09:06:09] <Arcan> yvw
L288[09:13:49] <AmandaC> What are you
confused by, gary159 ?
L289[09:14:40] <AmandaC> You put the parts
in them, then load it into a rack to provide power
L290[09:16:18] <gary159> I know, but how
do i connect the server to the terminal? When i put the terminal
server inside the rack with the server and right-click with the
terminal on the terminal server it doesn't work
L291[09:16:39] <fingercomp> connect the
terminal server and the server to the same side
L292[09:16:47] <Skye> Mimiru, uhhhh... I
don't really thing it's fair to use email blocklists...?
L293[09:17:08] <AmandaC> You attach the
terminal to the same virticle like as the server is attached
to
L294[09:17:47] <AmandaC> Line*
L295[09:17:52] <AmandaC> Sorry, on from
mobile
L296[09:18:03] <gary159> Oh
L297[09:18:07] <gary159> I will try this
out
L298[09:18:33] <AmandaC> %choose keep
protecting the laptop battery or use it as a batpack
L299[09:18:33] <MichiBot> AmandaC: use it
as a batpack
L300[09:18:39] <gary159> Thank you so
much!
L301[09:18:43] <gary159> It works
L302[09:22:39] <Skye> AmandaC, also the
webchat isn't in the ident, it's in the IRC server,
webchat.esper.net, do a /whois on anyone and you can see what IRC
server it is
L303[09:23:10] <AmandaC> Skye: ah,
true
L304[09:24:21] <AmandaC> Also, sending
email spam can be a good signal for an infected machine, which
could be part of a botnet
L305[09:49:37] <ben_mkiv> meh, why is
reading nbt data considered as overpowered?
L306[09:49:45] <ben_mkiv> it would allow
for much more automation
L307[09:50:43] <Skye> ben_mkiv, because
some mods store hidden data in NBT
L308[09:50:47] <ben_mkiv> didnt someone
here also work on a addon that adds a machine that canr ead
nbt?
L309[09:50:57] <ben_mkiv> skye,
like?
L310[09:50:58] <Skye> and also that would
break things if a mod decdes to change internal representations of
data
L311[09:51:22] <ben_mkiv> actually
wondering because i want to improve my draconic crafting
stuff
L312[09:51:32] <ben_mkiv> to detect
upgrade tiers of items, which is stored as nbt :/
L313[09:52:24] <AmandaC> You can make
drivers that read the nbt and expose it for an itemstack in a
pluggable way, can't you?
L314[09:52:43] <ben_mkiv> yea, but as
addon only
L315[09:53:06] <ben_mkiv> already thougt
of some machine just for the draconic stuff
L316[09:53:38] <AmandaC> Bleh
L317[09:53:45] <AmandaC> I hope I get
power back soon
L318[09:53:46] <ben_mkiv> but i got other
stuff on the todolist, so that wont happen now
L319[09:58:23] <Inari> %give MichiBot
Disboard immigration forms
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L322[10:12:35] <Inari> Vexatos: https://www.sciencealert.com/exotic-new-matter-rydberg-polaron-molecule-bose-einstein-condensate
neat :o
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L325[10:27:50] <AmandaC> %choose listen or
don't
L326[10:27:51] <MichiBot> AmandaC:
don't
L327[10:27:55] <AmandaC> Bleh
L328[10:45:39] <Inari> AmandaC / payonel:
https://twitter.com/EmrgencyKittens/status/969976958787444736
L329[10:45:40] <MichiBot> Sat Mar 03
10:45:02 CST 2018 @EmrgencyKittens: this is a strange looking
tangerine https://t.co/2tecwvcvVU
L330[10:46:33] <AmandaC> They're 2 for 1$
though, better buy a whole litter of them!
L331[10:56:53] <Inari> https://twitter.com/Liyu0109/status/969495422191337472
pretty cute
L332[10:56:53] <MichiBot> Fri Mar 02
02:51:35 CST 2018 @Liyu0109: Fate/Grand Order
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L336[11:29:41] <TheFlashJoe> Hello i am haivng this crash
and i don't know how to fix it https://pastebin.com/P3jSSqRq
<TheFlashJoe> Hello i am haivng this crash
and i don't know how to fix it https://pastebin.com/P3jSSqRqL337[11:32:42] <AmandaC> What version of
MC/OC?
L338[11:33:26] <TheFlashJoe> 1.12.2 and 1.7.1.63
<TheFlashJoe> 1.12.2 and 1.7.1.63L339[11:34:46] <AmandaC> Might be https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/2758
L340[11:34:46] <MichiBot> Title:
Error starting with spongeforge MC version 1.12.2 | Posted
by: pfigueiredo | Posted: Sun Feb 25 07:29:41 CST 2018
| Status: open
L341[11:35:54] <TheFlashJoe> going to try to disable
SpongeForge
<TheFlashJoe> going to try to disable
SpongeForgeL342[11:37:41] <TheFlashJoe> No it's not a spongeforge
issue
<TheFlashJoe> No it's not a spongeforge
issueL343[11:37:50] <TheFlashJoe> i just disable it and the
same crash happen
<TheFlashJoe> i just disable it and the
same crash happenL344[11:38:35] <AmandaC> Not sure
then
L345[11:39:34] <TheFlashJoe> Should i downgrade?
<TheFlashJoe> Should i downgrade?L346[11:39:57] <TheFlashJoe> downgrade to the curseforge
version and not the dev builds
<TheFlashJoe> downgrade to the curseforge
version and not the dev buildsL347[11:40:03] <TheFlashJoe> ?
<TheFlashJoe> ?L348[11:42:55] <AmandaC> It crashes with
sponge completely removed you said?
L349[11:43:14] <TheFlashJoe> yes
<TheFlashJoe> yesL350[11:43:29] <TheFlashJoe> it seem to be OC issue not
sponge
<TheFlashJoe> it seem to be OC issue not
spongeL351[11:43:59] <AmandaC> Pastebin the
crash without sponge?
L353[11:45:28] <TheFlashJoe> I just downgrade to 1.7.1.43
and it fix my issue
<TheFlashJoe> I just downgrade to 1.7.1.43
and it fix my issueL354[11:46:55] <AmandaC> Does it crash
still if you use foamfix-lawful? asie might be able to diagnose if
so
L355[11:47:26] <AmandaC> Because it's def
not just OC, but an interaction of some kind
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L357[11:48:52] <payonel> o_O i've never
seen this issue
L358[11:49:14] <payonel> @TheFlashJoe can
you test with that OC build alone?
L359[11:49:19] <payonel> are you using
mmc?
L360[11:49:40] <payonel> @TheFlashJoe the
more you can help pinpoint the repro the easier it will be for me
to help
L361[11:50:46] <Vexatos> it looks like a
corrupt download
L362[11:52:22] <TheFlashJoe> I can't really test it alone
because i only have 1 server on my linux box also it's a serverside
end not clientside
<TheFlashJoe> I can't really test it alone
because i only have 1 server on my linux box also it's a serverside
end not clientsideL363[11:52:37] <payonel> you mean it
doesn't repro when you play sp?
L364[11:53:05] <TheFlashJoe> No this dont happen on
singleplayer only server
<TheFlashJoe> No this dont happen on
singleplayer only serverL365[11:53:17] <AmandaC> (repro =
reproduce )
L366[11:55:31] <Vexatos> still looks like
a broken download >_>
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L369[12:06:01] <AmandaC> %blame
9minecraft
L370[12:06:01] *
MichiBot blames 9minecraft for doubling the time until release by
asking questions
L371[12:06:25] <AmandaC> ... that fits
surprisingly well
L372[12:44:39] <Arcan> %pet AmandaC
L373[12:44:40] *
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health!
L374[12:44:54] <Arcan> i am confused
L375[12:45:01] *
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L376[12:45:04] <Arcan> %give Inari the
LGBT agenda
L377[12:45:04] *
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inventory
L378[12:45:10] <Arcan> i think this
belongs to you
L379[12:45:12] <AmandaC> H-hey!
L380[12:45:13] *
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L381[12:45:33] <Inari> Why to me
L382[12:45:36] <Inari> Unless L means
Lewd
L383[12:45:44] <Inari> I guess B fits
anyway
L384[12:45:44] <AmandaC> I'm pretty sure
I'm the one that added it
L385[12:45:53] <Inari> LGBTI \o/
L386[12:46:35] <Arcan> Inari: what else
would L mean
L387[12:46:47] <Inari> Lesbian?
L388[12:47:16] <AmandaC> Lesbian, Gay,
Bisexual, Transgender
L389[12:48:38] <Arcan> i was trying to be
funny
L390[12:48:43] *
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L391[12:50:22] <Inari> :p
L392[12:52:41] *
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L393[12:54:39] <Inari> You and your
ERP
L394[12:55:05] *
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L395[12:55:20] <Arcan> Inari: i'm not a
lewd
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L397[12:55:29] <Skye> %give MichiBot
traaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaans agenda
L398[12:55:29] *
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adds it to her inventory
L399[12:56:00] *
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L402[12:56:44] <AmandaC> The power is
still out, and me laptop's dead, and my phone's back down to
43%
L403[12:57:09] <AmandaC> %choose listen or
don't
L404[12:57:10] <MichiBot> AmandaC:
listen
L405[12:57:13] <Inari> RIP
L406[12:57:18] <AmandaC> I guess I'll
listen to a podcast
L407[12:57:22] <Inari> How did you get the
cahrge up? Drained the laptop? :P
L408[12:57:22] <AmandaC> Bbl
L409[12:57:25] <Inari> Byes
L410[12:57:41] <AmandaC> Inari: yup, and a
power brick
L411[12:58:09] <Inari> I see
L412[13:26:35] <payonel> robot.setName is
coming!
L413[13:30:40] <Vexatos>
DriverRobot.scala
L414[13:30:58] <Vexatos> D:
L415[13:31:46] <Inari> Boreeeed~
L416[13:32:01] <MGR>
Surprise attack! Ninja Snack!
<MGR>
Surprise attack! Ninja Snack!L417[13:32:22] <payonel> Vexatos: i
decided not to add a driver
L418[13:32:34] <payonel> i'm just adding
it to the tileentity component interface
L419[13:32:48] <payonel> along side start,
stop, and isRunning
L420[13:38:48] <Vexatos> whaat
L421[13:39:02] <Vexatos> :I
L422[13:39:13] <Vexatos> payonel, it
should not do that
L423[13:39:27] <Vexatos> If you add it to
the component that means you're going to make it propagate the
network
L424[13:39:43] <payonel> it's already
doing that
L425[13:39:47] <Vexatos> what
L426[13:39:57] <payonel> that part is not
a new feature
L427[13:40:18] <Vexatos> uuh
L428[13:40:19] <Vexatos> why is it
L429[13:40:33] <Vexatos> why would it be a
propagating node
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L431[13:41:03] <payonel> it's already a
node, when it is a neighboring node, it is added as a
component
L432[13:42:11] <Vexatos> it shouldn't even
propagate the network ._.
L433[13:42:19] <Vexatos> the robot is
supposed to be enclosed
L434[13:57:14] <payonel> it is enclosed,
everything is fine. it is not propagating the network. only cases
see robots
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L442[15:24:50] <MineRobber9000> /2/2
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L444[16:46:27] <AmandaC> Let there be
(limited) light
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L447[17:39:38] <AmandaC> %tell Inari guess
what! Power will be back at 23.59 on the 6th! How convenient!
L448[17:39:38] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Inari
will be notified of this message when next seen.
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L450[18:59:12] <Kodos> Why'd your power
get shut off?
L451[19:00:34] <CompanionCube> I'd guess
something happened or maintenance?
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L453[19:11:26] <AmandaC> %tell Inari
scratch that, it's apparently back!
L454[19:11:26] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Inari
will be notified of this message when next seen.
L455[19:11:52] <AmandaC> Kodos,
CompanionCube: massive snow / ice storm, winds of 60mph
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L457[19:23:17] <Mettaton_Fab> man, my phones headphone
jack is not working
<Mettaton_Fab> man, my phones headphone
jack is not workingL458[19:25:54] <AmandaC> Ah, the courage
port
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L462[20:24:24] <Mettaton_Fab> as if my phone is turning
into an iphone
<Mettaton_Fab> as if my phone is turning
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L465[20:40:06] <Izaya> It's slowing down
and becoming fragile?
L466[20:59:33] <AmandaC> An android
podcast I listen to calls the headphone jack the courage port.
:P
L467[20:59:45] *
AmandaC cuddles up against Inari, dozes. Night nerds.
L468[21:00:41] <AmandaC> Here's hoping I
still have power in the morning, because the power company's app
still says 23:59 tuesday for when it'll be restored.
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L470[21:03:55] <KernelDeimos> Hello!
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L472[21:44:15] <CompanionCube>
hello?
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L476[21:46:18] <Mettaton_Fab> also my MP4 player has a
dead audio output
<Mettaton_Fab> also my MP4 player has a
dead audio outputL477[21:59:52]
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L478[22:18:57] <KernelDeimos>
CompanionCube! Awesome nick
L479[22:19:07] <KernelDeimos> I'm gonna be
back later though
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L481[22:28:58] <Oddstr13> Mimiru: ...that
shouldn't OOM Python, weird..
L482[22:29:11] *
Mimiru shrugs
L483[22:29:19] <Mimiru> I don't know, I
have nothing to do with it :D
L484[22:29:28] <Oddstr13> hehe
L485[22:29:53] <Oddstr13> I mean, if
you're loading thousands of them at once, it could be a
problem
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L488[22:31:34] <Oddstr13> Mimiru: your irc
server is still bouncing btw :P
L489[22:31:47] <Mimiru> Yes, I've not had
time to recompile it..
L490[22:32:03] <Oddstr13> ah, know that
one.
L491[22:32:15] <Oddstr13> had that issue
with my bouncer a few years back :P
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L503[23:03:36] <Mimiru> Well I've been
trying to get client stuff working again
L504[23:03:46] <Mimiru> then today I had
to replace the torque strut on my car
L505[23:04:07] <Mimiru> and while trying
to figure out why my motor mount was squeaking I found the
cause...
L506[23:04:27] <Mimiru> I tried to tighten
a nut and sheared the bolt off.
L507[23:05:12] <Mimiru> had to drive an
hour and a half one way to get a new one, and went to the zoo with
my kids since I'm going to be leaving in a few weeks
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L509[23:07:11] <KernelDeimos> I'm
back!
L510[23:07:21] <KernelDeimos> Also I just
remembered IRC's good ol' no chat history thing
L511[23:07:31] <Mimiru> %oclogs
L512[23:07:32] <MichiBot> Mimiru: https://oclogs.pc-logix.com/
L513[23:07:36] <Mimiru> Oh
L514[23:07:37] <Mimiru> right
L515[23:07:39] <Mimiru> I've not fixed
that yet
L516[23:07:42] <KernelDeimos>
%oclogs
L517[23:07:42] <MichiBot> KernelDeimos:
https://oclogs.pc-logix.com/
L518[23:07:51] <Mimiru> https://irclogs.pc-logix.com/view?chan=oc&log=2018-03-03.log
L519[23:08:06] <KernelDeimos> Oh neat. Has
anybody made an SSH client for OpenComputers yet?
L520[23:08:08] <Mimiru> that's a redirect
that I've not had a chance to re setup since I had to reinstall my
server
L521[23:09:43] <KernelDeimos> Oh man,
that's awesome. So do you just have a VPS or something logging all
the chats?
L522[23:10:02] <Mimiru> I have a bot
running on one of my VMs that logs a few channels
L523[23:10:29] <Mimiru> https://irclogs.pc-logix.com/
L524[23:10:34] <KernelDeimos> Ah okay,
that's pretty useful. I used to just keep IRC clients open on a
vps, lol
L525[23:10:45] <KernelDeimos> ^ tbh that's
how I got to the page - the other url was too much to type
L526[23:10:56] <KernelDeimos> I haven't
figured out if there's a way to copy text from OpenComputers
yet
L527[23:11:06] <Mimiru> Oh, you're using
an ingame client...
L528[23:11:11] <Mimiru> no theres
not
L529[23:11:29] <Mimiru> oh man... the
default IRC client at that
L530[23:11:49] <Mimiru> you should fire up
OPPM and install WocChat if you have a T3 pc/gpu/screen
L531[23:11:54] <KernelDeimos> Haha, yeah
XD
L532[23:12:00] <KernelDeimos> I was just
about to ask if there was a package XD
L533[23:12:09] <KernelDeimos> Also... can
I multitask on this thing?
L534[23:12:21] <KernelDeimos> Has anyone
ported GNU screen?
L535[23:12:40] <Izaya> Multitasking on
OpenOS not so much
L536[23:13:35] <KernelDeimos> Well I'll
have to quit to start WocChat anyway - I'll be back in a bit
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L539[23:15:43] <KernelDeimos> Alright, so
I got a stack trace XD
L540[23:15:55] <KernelDeimos> Guess I'm
still on the default client until I figure that out
L541[23:16:08] <Mimiru> what was the
error>
L542[23:16:09] <Mimiru> ?*
L543[23:16:27] <KernelDeimos> bad
parameter #2 expected boolean .. or something like that
L544[23:16:31] <KernelDeimos> It was in a
tty.lua
L545[23:17:01] <Mimiru> T3/creative
computer with a T3 screen/gpu?
L546[23:19:24] <KernelDeimos> Oh, I think
I only upgraded specific things
L547[23:19:36] <KernelDeimos> Yep... cpu
is still T1
L548[23:19:41] <KernelDeimos> I'm gonna go
fix this
L549[23:19:56] <KernelDeimos> If I take
the harddrive out, MC won't erase the data, right?
L550[23:19:58] <Mimiru> well, CPU is fine
I think... but you'll need a t3 GPU and screen atleast I
think
L551[23:20:02] <Mimiru> right
L552[23:20:32] <KernelDeimos> brb,
rebooting
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L557[23:36:44] <Mimiru> Oddstr13,
fix't
L558[23:42:56] <Mimiru> https://packages.gitlab.com/ is down ._.