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L2[00:04:31] <DCNick3> payonel: Well, I'm
here
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L4[00:53:41] <DCNick3> Ahh, why did he poke
me, I won't be asleep this night
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L6[01:13:45] <Kodos> %summon payonel
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L10[01:57:43]
<Forecaster>
Hey, that tripod in the middle worked hard for his phone!
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L16[03:16:16] <Inari> I hath tell
L17[03:48:27]
<Forecaster>
hath you now
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L19[03:57:16] <Inari> Forecaster: No, now I
had one
L20[03:57:23] <Inari> Or is ti had had in
this ase
L21[03:57:24] <Inari> *case
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L23[04:02:09]
<Lizzian>
"I don't need you to fix my time machine anymore, I found
another way, just need to find another transdimensional cat goddess
and I'm all set" hmmmmmmmm
L24[04:04:44]
<Lizzian> in
other news, one of the walls of my office at work has one of the
fire-alarm panels on the oposite side. currently said panel is
beeping annoyingly and the longer it goes on the harder it grinds
against my ears
L25[04:05:43] <Inari> Lizzy is cheating I
see
L26[04:05:50]
<Lizzian>
?
L27[04:05:52]
<Forecaster>
Time to start an actual fire it sounds like
L28[04:05:54]
<Forecaster>
subtly
L29[04:05:56] <Inari> Looking up the
%tell
L31[04:06:03]
<Lizzian>
no
L32[04:06:08]
<Lizzian> i
just saw it in the backlog
L34[04:06:51] <Inari> Must have been quite
a recent tell then o.o
L35[04:07:04]
<Lizzian> it
was at 5am for me
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L37[04:10:03]
<Forecaster>
the best quest
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L40[06:03:31] <Inari> Ugh
L41[06:03:38] <Inari> "File is too big
to be opened by Notepad++"
L42[06:07:31]
<Forecaster>
wash it so it shrinks
L44[06:13:12] <Inari> I feel like Imight
just uninstall NP++. I don't use it much as is, mostly to open a
file here adn there, but then it can't deal with big file
somehow
L45[06:13:29] <ben_mkiv> back in my days we
used ultraedit
L46[06:13:37] <ben_mkiv> but that looks
like it turned to crap
L49[06:14:51] <ben_mkiv> study finds out..
cats are dumb
L50[06:16:36] <Izaya> vim deals with big
files :D
L51[06:17:05] <Inari> Vim also sucks to
look at anything though
L52[06:17:08] <Inari> VSCode <3
L54[06:20:13] <MichiBot> Mon Feb 12
03:40:10 CST 2018 @GamesNosh: Remember before Oblivion how the
imperial city was described as the massive beating heart of
Tamriel? The empire se…
https://t.co/qBW1KvpgIm
L55[06:20:27]
<Forecaster>
that attached painting
L56[06:22:41] <Inari> Ah, yes Game cities
with 10 inhabitants
L57[06:22:42] <Inari> Classic
L58[06:23:57]
<Forecaster>
probably has something to do with the resources required to create
and simulate a big city in a game like that :P
L60[06:25:04]
<Forecaster>
It's Hal's younger brother
L61[06:25:23] <Izaya> [whirring
intensifies]
L63[06:39:15]
<MGR>
Lol
L64[07:26:41] <Inari> All those silly gifs
that don't link the source :p
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L67[08:16:33] <Mimiru> ugh right
L68[08:16:41] <Mimiru> I think this is why
I didn't do EEPROMs in the card writer
L70[08:17:46] <Mimiru> something changed
between 1.7 and 1.10 and broke instanceof checks on OC
items..
L71[08:19:01] <Arcan> Mimiru: does EEPROM
extend net.minecraft.item.Item
L72[08:19:43] <Mimiru> IDK wtf it extends
anymore, it's scala :D
L73[08:19:53] <Arcan> ~sigh~
L74[08:20:09] <Mimiru> I mean.. looking at
EEPROM.scala sure LOOKS like item shit.. but it extends
traits.Delegate
L75[08:20:14] <Mimiru> which *EVERY* item
in OC extends
L76[08:20:17] <Arcan> where is the OC
source code
L77[08:20:26] <Mimiru> on github.
L78[08:20:29] <Arcan> good
L80[08:20:49] <Arcan> found it
L83[08:22:46] <Mimiru> I'm tempted to do a
check against the unlocalized name.
L84[08:22:47] <Arcan> delegator extends
item
L85[08:23:11] <DCNick3> But.. Delegator is
Delegate, right?
L86[08:23:21] <DCNick3> *is not
L87[08:23:24] <Arcan> and traits.Delegate
appears to extend Delegator, or it at least has a delegator
L88[08:23:32] <Mimiru> IDK how scala works
with it's delegates
L89[08:23:39] <Mimiru> its*
L90[08:26:34] *
Saphire paws at Izaya
L91[08:26:53] <Saphire> Apparently puush.me
(puu.sh) registation is disabled.
L92[08:26:54] <Saphire> Forever.
L93[08:27:01] <Izaya> o-ok?
L94[08:27:07] <Izaya> That's
unexpected.
L95[08:27:30] <Mimiru> o_O
L96[08:27:47] *
Arcan reading scala docs
L97[08:27:52] <Arcan> what is this i can't
even
L98[08:27:54] <Saphire> "
L99[08:27:56] <Saphire> As such, we have
made the decision to disable new user registrations for the time
being. Existing users will be unaffected by this change for now
(given fair use of the service). "
L100[08:28:03] <Mimiru> Arcan...
right?
L101[08:28:04] <AshIndigo> could you do
something like EEPROM.parent?
L102[08:28:05] <Saphire> ...whyyyyy did I
not register before :c
L103[08:28:11] *
AshIndigo has no idea how scala works
L104[08:28:21] <Arcan> like i can do java,
and kt
L105[08:28:37] <Arcan> kotlin isn't that
drastically different from java'
L106[08:28:38] <Mimiru> Saphire, if you
need an file sharing space you can use sharex and I can give you a
chunk of space on my box
L107[08:28:45] <AshIndigo> that would
maybe give the delegator which extends Item
L108[08:28:53] <Saphire> ...eh
L109[08:28:53] <Arcan> Saphire:
kitsun.es?
L110[08:29:21] <Saphire> Arcan: cute name,
huh
L111[08:29:34] <Arcan> there's an API link
at the bottom...
L112[08:29:40] <Arcan> but all the links
are broken
L113[08:29:55] <Arcan> you might have to
dig through the page JS to extricate the API -_-
L114[08:31:34] <Saphire> Someone been
lazy?
L116[08:31:47]
<Forecaster>
oh wow
L117[08:31:59]
<MGR> Dang,
that's an awesome picture
L118[08:32:20] <AshIndigo> that escalator
was awesome
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L120[08:37:18] <Arcan> where is the
srccode for the lua irc floppy at, btw?
L121[08:37:36] <Arcan> i'm trying to write
an irc bot but the RFC specs are confusing
L123[08:39:58] <Arcan> thanks
L124[08:43:22] <Izaya> :|
L125[08:43:49] <Izaya> There isn't a
decent and convenient browser for android
L126[08:43:54] <Inari> Arcanox: the RFC is
fairly straight forward once you get it
L127[08:44:03] <Izaya> chrome is botnet,
firefox is slow, as is icecat, brave isn't on F-Droid
L128[08:44:06] <Izaya> :|
L129[08:44:25] <Inari> Odd definition of
botnet
L130[08:44:29] <AshIndigo> opera? ( i dont
acutally use it on mobile though)
L131[08:44:31]
<MGR>
Mhm
L132[08:44:44]
<MGR> I'm
not sure how Chrome is a botnet
L133[08:45:09] <Arcan> Inari: just arcan,
-ox is a different person
L134[08:45:21] <Arcan> Izaya: compile
chromium then?
L135[08:45:27] <Inari> Arcan: I see :P IRc
just atbbed to them first
L136[08:45:54] <Izaya> Arcan: I'm not
aware of an ungoogled-chromium for android, so still botnet
L137[08:46:05]
<MGR>
¯\_(?)_/¯
L138[08:46:10] <Michiyo> ...
L139[08:47:53] <AshIndigo> ...?
L141[08:49:22]
<MGR> That's
not exactly a positive trend
L142[08:49:54]
<Forecaster>
I have a personal data collection, so I have a botnet then :D
L143[08:50:03]
<Forecaster>
I'll have to put that on my resumé
L145[08:50:29]
<MGR> I have
crash reporting in my bot, so I have a botnet now too!
L146[08:50:42]
<MGR>
@Forecaster Now we can go to prison together ??
L147[08:50:53] <Izaya> computers are
botnet
L148[08:50:55] <Izaya> wat do
L149[08:50:55]
<Forecaster>
it's not illegal to have a botnet
L150[08:50:57]
<Forecaster>
:P
L151[08:51:17]
<MGR>
??
L152[08:51:19]
<Forecaster>
assuming you own all the nodes and are not using them for anything
illegal
L153[08:51:26]
<MGR> Ah,
that's it
L154[08:51:40]
<MGR> My
definition of botnet fell under not that
L155[08:56:02] <AmandaC> %choose do drugs
or be productive or watch youtube/anime
L156[08:56:02] <MichiBot> AmandaC: do
drugs
L157[08:56:08] *
AmandaC contemplates
L158[08:56:08] <AmandaC> nah
L159[08:56:33] <AshIndigo> :\
L160[08:57:03] <AmandaC> ( do drugs was
"play one of the addictive games" )
L161[08:57:21] <Arcan> cractorio
L162[08:57:57]
<MGR> I was
a bit worried there
L163[08:58:09] <Izaya> conclusion:
waterfox is okay enough I guess
L164[08:58:24] <Izaya> cept that isn't on
F-Droid anyway
L165[08:59:36] <AshIndigo> compile it
yourself or grab a random shady apk then?
L166[08:59:54] <Izaya> grabbed it from the
waterfox site
L167[09:00:00] <Izaya> fuck it I'll just
install brave again
L168[09:00:42] <Izaya> sucks pretty hard
on desktop but it's p. good on mobile
L169[09:04:15] <Izaya> what.
L170[09:04:32]
<MGR> Your
phone just exploded
L171[09:04:34] <AshIndigo> what
broke?
L172[09:04:38] <Izaya> I held square to
switch between the current and previous program so it put it up on
the screen at the same time.
L173[09:04:48] <Izaya> This is android 7
though I thought it was an 8 feature
L174[09:05:26] <AshIndigo> mine does it
too
L175[09:05:44] <AshIndigo> probably just a
lineageos backport feature though
L176[09:06:36] <Izaya> interesting
L177[09:06:44] <Izaya> useless on a
5" screen though
L178[09:07:51] <Izaya> "Allow 'Email'
to make phone calls?" *No* "You have disabled a required
permission" ???
L179[09:08:50] <AshIndigo> i cant think of
a reason why email would need that
L180[09:09:30] <Izaya> Yup.
L181[09:09:35] <Izaya> Back to K-9 Mail I
guess.
L182[09:09:54] <AshIndigo> was it default
android mail?
L183[09:10:33] <Izaya> yeah, AOSP
L184[09:10:40] <Izaya> well, I assume the
Lineage devs didn't touch it
L185[09:11:22] <Michiyo> Contact access
maybe?
L186[09:11:30] <AshIndigo> arent those
seperate?
L187[09:11:42] <AshIndigo> they are
L188[09:11:42] <Michiyo> IDK it's been a
while since i looked through android permissions
L189[09:11:57] <Michiyo> i remember in 6
it was shit
L190[09:12:04] <AshIndigo> calendar,
contacts, phone, storage and one msic one for mine
L191[09:12:17] <Michiyo> want to write a
file? then you get to ask for EVERY fucking access there is that
uses files, Camera etc
L192[09:12:18] <AshIndigo> and i presume
we have virtually the same one
L193[09:12:33] <Izaya> s/in //
L194[09:12:34] <MichiBot> <Michiyo>
i remember 6 it was shit
L195[09:12:44] *
Michiyo sighs
L196[09:12:53] <Izaya> 4.4.4 was the peak
of android
L197[09:13:31] <Michiyo> You know... if
anyone else had said they I'd ask if they were trolling..
L198[09:13:34] <Michiyo> but this is Izaya
\.
L199[09:13:47] <Izaya> :D
L200[09:14:03] <Izaya> in all seriousness,
I need to do so much fucking around now to get stuff to work the
way I want it.
L201[09:14:19] <Izaya> That and IMO
Material Design is ugly af but it's that or whatever the fuck Apple
is doing now
L202[09:14:28] <Izaya> at least until pmOS
can uh
L203[09:14:30] <Izaya> do phone
stuff
L204[09:14:34] <Izaya> like call and
text
L205[09:14:56] <Izaya> once it can call,
text, mobile data and wifi on my phone I'm gonna switch
L207[09:20:13] <Izaya> actually Michiyo
can I quote that on my site I think it explains stuff very
well
L208[09:20:55] <Michiyo> Forecaster, can
confirm. I've done web design for clients... there is a reason I
don't anymore.
L209[09:21:01] <Michiyo> Izaya,
sure.
L210[09:21:11] <Izaya> :D
L211[09:22:35] <Izaya> Forever
immortalized.
L212[09:22:49] <Izaya> Or just until I
can't afford to pay for my domain, which looks to be in about 55
days.
L213[09:23:39]
<Forecaster>
%ohno
L214[09:23:40] <MichiBot> Forecaster:
ohno
L215[09:24:18] <Michiyo> Izaya, wanna fix
my typo?
L216[09:24:24] <Michiyo> they->that
:P
L217[09:25:46] <Michiyo> thanks :D
L218[09:27:59] <Izaya> i can webdev I
swear
L219[09:28:08] <Saphire> Hmm
L220[09:28:14] <Izaya> totally didn't just
try 7 different ways to get <Izaya> to render properly
L221[09:28:18] <Michiyo> lol
L222[09:28:30] <Saphire> Izaya: nah, you
have not used 6 different frameworks to render a single page
L223[09:28:40] <Saphire> You are obviously
not a Modern Web Developer
L224[09:28:48] <Izaya> I hope I'm
not.
L225[09:29:05] <Izaya> I'd set fire to my
house whenever I opened my own site.
L226[09:29:31] <Michiyo> Ugh speaking of
domains...
L227[09:29:39] <Michiyo> I've gotta renew
one of mine by the 16th..
L228[09:30:09] <Michiyo> why couldn't it
be the 17th? then I'd get paid in time.
L229[09:30:51] <Izaya> Android is very
confused.
L230[09:30:57] *
Saphire hums
L231[09:30:59] <Izaya> I just inserted two
SD cards, apparently.
L232[09:31:41] <Saphire> ...I am kind of
wondering how some people manage to draw comissions while not quite
knowing, well, how to draw.
L233[09:32:10]
<Forecaster>
you mean, how do they get requests for comissions?
L234[09:32:25]
<MGR> Good
marketing?
L235[09:34:13] <Izaya> man, when they
first made the new UI for F-Droid it was real flaky
L236[09:34:21] <Izaya> now we have
progress circles around download buttons
L240[09:47:29]
<Forecaster>
past
L241[09:48:17] <Izaya> ha
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L243[09:49:02] <Temia> A smart person
would've just used "Passed" instead of "Passed/past
away"
L244[09:49:17] <Temia> Save yourself
another $100, not look like an idiot.
L245[09:51:21] <vifino> ^
L246[09:51:33] <vifino> not everone can be
a smart moo, Temia.
L247[09:51:44] <Temia> 'u'
L248[09:51:51] <Temia> Yay, I'm
smart~
L249[09:51:52] <Michiyo> or just SEPT 18
1920 - OCT 21 2001
L250[09:51:55] <Izaya> must not make axe
related joke that doesn't even fit here
L251[09:51:58] <Michiyo> saved a bunch
more :P
L252[09:52:00] <vifino> Yes, you
are.
L253[09:52:04] *
vifino pets Temia
L254[09:52:19] *
Izaya pours a cup of tea for Temia
L255[09:52:22]
<MGR> Dang,
you even beat me Michiyo
L256[09:52:28]
<MGR> I was
going to say just use "Past"
L257[09:52:30] <Izaya> I have stronger
stuff too, but don't tell anyone.
L258[09:52:31] *
Temia tailswishes. yay, pets =u=
L259[09:52:41] <Inari> %pet Temia
L260[09:52:41] *
MichiBot brushes Temia with thin resource endowment. Temia recovers
1 health!
L261[09:52:54] <Izaya> vifino: want to do
more fortnite
L262[09:53:04] <Izaya> it's nearly 3 AM
and I'm mildly intoxicated
L263[09:55:32] <vifino> sure.
L264[09:55:55] <vifino> see ya on
51.15.1.151?
L265[09:56:37]
<Forecaster>
@MGR that would still be wrong though...
L266[09:56:51]
<MGR>
Hmmm?
L267[09:57:23]
<Forecaster>
where would you use "Past" so it would be correct?
L268[09:57:37]
<MGR> Born
(date) Past (date)
L269[09:58:01]
<Forecaster>
yeah, that's... incorrect
L270[09:58:04] <Michiyo> ^
L271[09:58:16]
<MGR>
??
L272[09:58:25]
<MGR>
Probably
L273[09:58:28] <Temia> That loops right
back around to looking like an idiot
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L275[09:59:01]
<MGR>
Indeed, as you could remove all the words entirely and just use the
dates and a '-'
L276[09:59:11] <Izaya> Then you look like
an asshole.
L277[09:59:18] <Izaya> Figuratively, of
course.
L278[09:59:28] <Temia> It's a careful
balance of frugality and impersonality
L279[09:59:31]
<Forecaster>
also michiyo already suggested that
L280[09:59:32]
<MGR> Not
really
L281[09:59:35]
<Forecaster>
:P
L282[09:59:41]
<MGR>
@Forecaster Indeed, which is why I said she bested me
L284[10:02:17]
<Forecaster>
look, I did the thing it said in the picture
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L286[10:02:37]
<Forecaster>
while also sending a picture of a hat with a picture of a hat on
it
L287[10:02:55]
<Forecaster>
at the same time!
L288[10:03:10]
<MGR> That
picture of a hat on the picture of a hat should have a picture of a
hat with a picture of the hat on that picture of the hat (ad
infinitum)
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L290[10:13:08] <Michiyo> Ugh.. rain all
weekend again
L291[10:13:29] <Michiyo> it's hard to work
on the car when I have to swim to it.
L292[10:14:56]
<MGR> Can
you swim?
L293[10:20:09] <Michiyo> Yes, but that's
hardly the point.
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L295[10:24:00]
zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L296[10:24:31] <Michiyo> And then I was
like man fuck that Vexatos guy! hahaha
L297[10:24:33]
<Forecaster>
what you need is an ark
L298[10:24:35] <Michiyo> Oh... hey
Vexatos.
L299[10:24:57] <Michiyo> @Forecaster what
I need is a garage.
L300[10:25:05]
<Forecaster>
for your ark, yes
L301[10:25:06]
<Forecaster>
:D
L302[10:25:15]
<Forecaster>
splendid idea!
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L305[10:27:36]
<MGR>
Michiyo, well, at least if you attempt the repairs, you won't die
from drowning
L306[10:27:40]
<MGR> That's
a positive
L307[10:28:47]
<Forecaster>
I don't think you can repair rain
L308[10:28:58]
<MGR> I was
talking about the car repairs
L309[10:29:27]
<Forecaster>
it was funnier assuming you weren't though
L310[10:29:35]
<MGR>
True
L311[10:29:51]
<MGR>
Meanwhile, I just shaved off 10 hours of work immediately, and
untold hours in future time
L312[10:30:06]
<MGR>
Because I figured out how to trick my work software into actually
doing something useful
L313[10:30:22] <Michiyo> I'm changing
struts... ._.
L314[10:30:33] <Michiyo> so I might die
from a spring to the head
L315[10:30:48]
<MGR> You
can get better from that though
L316[10:30:55] <Michiyo> though, I was
smart, and bought loaded struts.. so I don't have to take the
springs off :D
L317[10:30:56]
<MGR> I
heard someone got changed into a newt and recovered
L318[10:31:02]
<MGR> That's
a good idea
L320[10:31:22] <Michiyo> spring
compressors scare the shit out of me
L321[10:31:43] <Michiyo> Ouch...
L322[10:35:42] <Arcan> %give Michiyo a
hard hat
L323[10:35:42] *
MichiBot searches through her inventory for a bit. "I couldn't
find anything..."
L324[10:35:45] <Arcan> aww
L325[10:36:03] <Arcan> MichiBot: maybe a
hard hat and eye protection?
L326[10:36:36] <Michiyo> nah, it'll just
give more stuff the spring to shatter and become projectiles.
L327[10:37:29] <Arcan> like
L328[10:37:32] <Arcan> a construction hard
hat
L329[10:37:53] <Arcan> and goggles like
you would wear to a shooting range
L330[10:37:58] <Inari> Reminds me of that
french girl that died from a gas thingy exploding and poking her in
the chest
L331[10:37:59] <Inari> Or something
L332[10:38:12] <Arcan> they're designed to
resist violent impacts
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L335[10:54:16] <Michiyo> damn AWS... I've
already got started.. I spun up a micro instance, and installed
PDNS.. what more do I need from you? quit sending me emails every
day.
L336[10:54:45] <Inari> They want to be in
your sieves cript
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L338[11:03:00] <ben_mkiv> upgrade now to
the reduced newsletter for just 5$/month
L339[11:03:22] <ben_mkiv> just 2.50$ if
you got prime :P
L340[11:03:47] <Izaya> unsubscribing just
makes it worse
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L342[11:40:43]
<MGR> For
more simple-minded types, Canada consists of two parts: Toronto:
Icy hellhole. Full of maple syrup, French people, moose, beavers,
Moonties (who are Paul Gross clones) and people who say eh. Not
Toronto: Icier hellhole. More syrup, French people, moose, beavers,
Moonties (again, clones) and people who say eh.
L343[11:45:40] <Temia> :T
L344[11:46:31]
<MGR> I have
it on good authority that Canada is always buried under 2 meters of
snow
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L346[11:50:24]
<MGR> Oh,
it's basically just your ordinary English except that there are no
confrontational verbs or statements of strong personal preference,
you know." --- Minnesota speech
L347[11:52:02] <Izaya> eh.
L348[11:56:16]
<MGR> Is
that a Canada joke?
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L350[11:58:20]
<Forecaster>
it's a Canadeh joke
L351[12:00:24]
<MGR>
Ahahah!
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L358[13:32:26] <S3> TIL Hitler founded
volkswagen
L360[13:38:48] <Inari> S3: well, kind
of
L361[13:40:42] <S3> Inari: I was
summarizing
L363[13:41:32] <S3> Michiyo: WTF lol
L364[13:41:48] <S3> my check engine light
is on right now
L365[13:41:58] <S3> but it's becuse I
haven't replaced the O2 sensors yet
L366[13:42:25] <Inari> Can't have a check
engine light on if you have no car
L367[13:44:51] <Michiyo> I had to replace
my upstream O2 a couple of months ago... I didn't leave it hanging
out in the engine bay though... lol
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L371[13:51:38] <S3> I have two, one on
each tube header for the engine last I checked
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L373[13:52:27] <S3> saw them there while
changing the oil
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L375[14:17:58] <Michiyo> if you have 2,
you likely have 3-4
L376[14:18:00] <Michiyo> :P
L377[14:18:11] <Michiyo> upstream and
downstream before/after the cat
L378[14:18:16] <S3> it's possible
L379[14:18:27] <S3> I haven't had to touch
anything down on that end just yet besides drums
L380[14:18:58] <Michiyo> I got lucky mine
was just the upstream, the downstream is harder but I've only got
those 2
L381[14:30:39] <S3> I need a 5175903AA
kit..
L382[14:30:48] <S3> and its discontinued
and on backorder
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L384[14:30:53] <S3> at the same time
lol
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L386[14:40:17] <Michiyo> Mopar... fun
times.
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L389[15:01:44]
<cat2002>
Anyone know of a mod that adds a block that triggers a redstone
pulse when a chunk is loaded?
L390[15:08:14]
<Forecaster>
no
L391[15:08:23]
<Forecaster>
you mean with the block inside that chunk or outside?
L392[15:08:31]
<cat2002>
inside
L393[15:08:43]
<Forecaster>
uh
L394[15:08:50]
<Forecaster>
that's not really possible...
L395[15:08:54]
<cat2002>
Just did it.
L396[15:08:59]
<Forecaster>
since an unloaded chunk doesn't exist really
L397[15:09:00]
<cat2002>
Using a computercraft computer.
L398[15:09:08]
<cat2002>
due to lack of persistance.
L399[15:09:23]
<cat2002>
and thermal expansions autonomous activator.
L400[15:09:33]
<Forecaster>
are you using the signal outside of said chunk?
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<cat2002>
I'm not using the signal for anything yet.
L403[15:10:08]
<cat2002>
But I will be, anyway it will work.
L404[15:14:19]
<Forecaster>
well yeah, if you use the signal outside of that chunk I expect you
can use pretty much anything
L405[15:14:31]
<Forecaster>
as long as adjacent blocks are updated correctly
L406[15:14:56]
<cat2002>
Anyway, I'm mostly using it for when I enter the area or I reopen
the world.
L407[15:17:34] <Inari> @Forecaster don't
see why inside the chunk wouldn't work
L408[15:17:49]
<cat2002> I
don't either.
L409[15:18:01]
<cat2002> as
long as there isn't a chunk loader in the chunk.
L410[15:18:10]
<Forecaster>
because when the chunk is unloaded the chunk doesn't exist, there
is nothing to read the off-state
L411[15:18:19]
<cat2002>
...
L412[15:18:29]
<cat2002> I
need it to trigger something in the chunk when the chunk is
loaded.
L413[15:19:16]
<Forecaster>
right, so just have it always be on, and when the chunk isn't
loaded it's basically frozen in time
L414[15:19:42]
<cat2002>
or, I use a non-persisting computercraft computer that turns on
when the chunk is loaded.
L415[15:20:24]
<Forecaster>
but why, if the thing is contained entirely in this one chunk
L416[15:20:39]
<cat2002>
Because I need it to send a pulse when the chunk is loaded.
L418[15:22:07]
<cat2002> I
will probably use the signal outside of the chunk.
L419[15:22:18]
<cat2002>
and I've done it in a way that I'm 100% sure will work.
L420[15:23:18] <Temia> Neither Salon nor
the article mention, of course, the increased costs in electricity
for the end user.
L421[15:23:22] <Temia> How convenient for
them.
L422[15:23:51] <Inari> Temia: Not sure
thats a huge cost?
L423[15:24:13] <Inari> And yeah, you don't
wan tto support by paying or looking at ads, so you support via
your CPU (and the electricity it uses)
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L425[15:27:54] <Skye> well maybe if it's
optional
L426[15:28:09] <Skye> you know what I hate
the most about cryptocurrency mining in browsers
L427[15:28:14] <Skye> someone hacked a
website
L428[15:28:18] <Skye> and injected
malicious JS
L429[15:28:20] <Skye> to mine coins
L430[15:28:26] <Inari> Temia: It's
assumably an extra cost of $0.005844 if you surf the site fro an
hour
L431[15:28:27] <Skye> INTO UK GOVERNMENT
SERVICES
L432[15:28:46] <Skye> Inari, ironically
it's something that disproportionately affects the poor
L433[15:28:51] <Skye> becuase poor people
get worse rates
L435[15:29:08] <Skye> if you're poor
L436[15:29:12] <Inari> worse rates on
what
L437[15:29:15] <Skye> electrcity
L438[15:29:20] <Inari> Like what?
L439[15:29:52] <Inari> If you paid $5/kWh
you'd still only have $0.2435 for surfing that stie for an
hour
L440[15:30:09] <Inari> I'm not sure
that'll affect anyone
L441[15:30:16] <Temia> You'd be
surprised.
L443[15:30:46] <Temia> And if people give
one site the benefit of the doubt, others will surely adopt
it.
L444[15:31:21] <Temia> It's never just a
single scenario a single day of the month.
L445[15:31:44] <Michiyo> prepaid
power..
L446[15:32:37] <Michiyo> Honey we're down
to 500 watts, make sure to shower with the light off.
L447[15:33:21] <Skye> Michiyo, watthours
or joules. :P
L448[15:33:24]
<cat2002>
^
L449[15:33:27]
<cat2002>
Yeah
L450[15:33:38] <Skye> but yeah I wouldn't
ever want to me in that situation
L451[15:33:47] <Michiyo> Well, the point
remains.
L452[15:37:45] <Inari> Temia: If you have
$5/kWh you already have some issues though. And if you can't stand
looking at a few ads in lieu of spending less money per month then
you have odd priorities
L453[15:38:03] <Temia> >can't stand
looking at a few ads
L454[15:38:06] <Temia> Are you for real
>.>
L455[15:38:33] <Arcan> the ads are not the
problem
L456[15:38:39] <Temia> Ad providers as an
attack vector have become so prevalent that adblocking for security
purposes is recommended practice
L457[15:38:50] <Skye> I have no problem
with well done ads
L458[15:38:53] <Arcan> it is the tracking
and other stuff and security issues that are the problem
L459[15:38:57] <Skye> I just dislike the
whole security risk
L460[15:39:06] <Skye> and that security
risk still occurs with the mining
L461[15:39:37] <CompanionCube> Visting a
website shouldn't be a license and consent to use as much of your
CPU capacity as they want for monetary benefit.
L462[15:40:03] <CompanionCube> At least
with non-crypto shit you can argue it's not *intentionally* using
up all your shit.
L463[15:41:04] <Inari> CompanionCube: Well
in the end it'll be a service agreement
L464[15:41:14] <Inari> Either they serve
your request or they don't
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L467[15:41:36] <Skye> yeah and I'm not
obligated to process it indiscriminately
L468[15:41:55] <Inari> Thats fine, then
they just won't serve you
L469[15:42:14] <chrapacz2000> Hello. i
wanted to ask you guys a question
L470[15:42:19] <Inari> %hello
L471[15:42:19] <MichiBot> Inari: Hello!
Welcome to #oc! The one and only opencomputers channel! Please ask
your questions directly (don't ask to ask) and provide error/code
examples! (Use pastebin.com if theyre more than one line!) Dont
mind the random conversation you might have walked into.
L472[15:42:36] <chrapacz2000> ok
L473[15:42:42] <Skye> chrapacz2000, well
what do you need help with? :o
L474[15:42:51] <Inari> I'm also not sure
how ads infect any PCs, except if you use a terrible browser or
it's some 0-day exploit
L475[15:42:58] <chrapacz2000> i need help
with unblocking OpenComputers in firewall settings
L476[15:43:15] <Skye> chrapacz2000, okay
unblock what and why
L477[15:43:18] <chrapacz2000> cause i
bought a server and its firewall is blocking Opencomputers
L478[15:43:36] <Skye> alright, what OS,
and what are you trying to access exactly?>
L479[15:43:57] <chrapacz2000> i tried to
access Github and pastebin
L480[15:44:10] <chrapacz2000> aaand they
didn't told me what OS they use
L481[15:44:14] <Skye> uuhhh
L482[15:44:23] <Skye> do you know how to
use the firewall they have then?
L483[15:44:25] <CompanionCube> Inari:
malvertising uses the ad network as a vector to run their own
malicious code, as if you visited their website or similar.
L484[15:44:50] <Skye> chrapacz2000, how do
you manage the server?
L485[15:44:50] <chrapacz2000> it has only
3 options
L486[15:44:53] <CompanionCube> And since
you have no choice in who's ads the network shows to you...
L487[15:45:03] <chrapacz2000> whitelist,
blacklist and country block
L488[15:45:05] <Inari> I mean, sure, I'm
just saying there should be no malicious code that could possibly
affect your computer
L489[15:45:15] <Inari> Heck, ads shouldn't
use code at all :P
L490[15:45:30] *
CompanionCube agrees
L491[15:45:35] <chrapacz2000> and i manage
my server through web panel
L492[15:46:04] <Skye> chrapacz2000, so...
the web panel doesn't give you any firewall options?
L493[15:46:26] <Skye> in that case... I
don't think it's possible to unblock it without talking to the
people you got the server from.
L494[15:46:26] <chrapacz2000> it allows me
to only block and whitelist specific IP
L495[15:46:37] <Skye> yeah that's
different to a firewall
L496[15:46:40] <CompanionCube> sounds like
you have a shite web panel :p
L497[15:46:46] <Skye> MC has a whitelist
and blacklist for IPs
L498[15:46:49] <Skye> that's for
players
L499[15:46:50] <Michiyo> s/web
panel/host/
L500[15:46:50] <MichiBot>
<CompanionCube> sounds like you have a shite host :p
L501[15:47:01] <Skye> not for connections
from the server to external sites
L502[15:49:07] <Skye> chrapacz2000, talk
to the server host?
L503[15:49:24] *
CompanionCube wonders what's the motivation behind blocking
outgoing connections
L504[15:49:26] <chrapacz2000> they told me
to whitelist IPs
L505[15:49:26] <Skye> for what it's worth,
OC blocks access to stuff on the local network itself
L506[15:49:35] <chrapacz2000> that the mod
is trying connect to
L507[15:49:36] <Skye> chrapacz2000,
uhhh... what?!
L508[15:49:42] <chrapacz2000> yeah
L509[15:49:44] <Skye> chrapacz2000, is it
possible to send a screenshot?
L510[15:49:49] <chrapacz2000> yeah
L511[15:49:51] <chrapacz2000> but
warning!
L512[15:49:57] <chrapacz2000> Polish
language ahead!
L513[15:50:09] *
Skye pokes asie
L514[15:50:40] <CompanionCube> well, good
luck trying to nail all of github's IPs.
L515[15:50:55] <Michiyo> ^
L516[15:50:57] <CompanionCube>
alternatively write a proxy with lua :p
L517[15:51:01] <Skye> oh btw I block PMs
from everyone
L518[15:51:22] <Skye> ideally cancel your
service and get a better host
L519[15:51:29] <chrapacz2000> can i send
the link to the screenshot? also here is translation: Hello, Our
hosting does not block access to internet servers. You must obtain
the IP addresses that this modification connects to and then add
them to the white list of the server's firewall.
L521[15:52:03] <Michiyo> Think we were
hoping for a screenshot of the panel.. :D
L522[15:52:07] <chrapacz2000> oh
L525[15:53:24] <chrapacz2000> here ya
go
L526[15:53:29] <chrapacz2000> but it is
also in Polish
L527[15:53:58] <Skye> can you translate
it?
L528[15:54:07] <chrapacz2000> yeah
L529[15:54:39] <Michiyo> the issue you're
going to run into with lots of larger sites is they use multiple
IPs.. so github.com and raw.githubusercontent.com etc are all gonna
be different, and sometimes you'll get different servers per
request.
L530[15:55:00] <CompanionCube> Michiyo:
and then there's the problem of other users
L532[15:55:10] <Michiyo> ^
L533[15:55:28] <Michiyo> Seriously
blocking outbound connections hurts my brain
L534[15:55:37] <chrapacz2000> 1st button
on left: Information and managment second: it is obvious what is
there third: www site fourth: donations
L535[15:56:03] <chrapacz2000> whoops i
forgot about middle one
L536[15:56:11] <chrapacz2000> analysis and
security
L537[15:56:16] <Skye> okkay...
L538[15:56:31] <Skye> hmm
L539[15:56:33] <Skye> here;s an idea
L540[15:56:37] <Skye> could you put a
*
L541[15:56:39] <Skye> in the address
L542[15:56:51] <Skye> if this works I'm
gonna laugh
L543[15:57:00] <CompanionCube> Skye:
or
L544[15:57:06] <CompanionCube> try
0.0.0.0
L545[15:57:09] <Skye> ooh yeah
L546[15:58:22] <Skye> chrapacz2000, can
you translate what the description says though?
L547[15:59:42] <chrapacz2000> of the
whitelist page yes? that one shown on screenshot
L548[15:59:55] <Skye> yes
L549[16:00:11] <chrapacz2000> If you want
to be sure that some services will not be blocked, we recommend
adding their IP addresses to whitelist. For example, here are the
IP addresses of the gametracker.com servers which ask the game
server every few minutes to retrieve its status and additional
information.
L550[16:01:03] <Michiyo> that sounds like
inbound blocks..
L551[16:01:33] <Skye> are there any other
panels?
L552[16:01:43] <chrapacz2000> no
L553[16:01:49] <chrapacz2000> i am forced
to use their panel
L554[16:02:09] <Skye> uh wrong word
L555[16:02:11] <Skye> I mean
L556[16:02:15] <Skye> any other firewall
settings
L557[16:02:29] <chrapacz2000> nope
L558[16:02:40] <chrapacz2000> only country
blocking blacklist and whitelist
L559[16:02:48] <chrapacz2000> shit host
ikr
L560[16:02:54] <chrapacz2000> but the
cheapest one
L561[16:03:01] <chrapacz2000> cause Polish
z?oty sucks
L562[16:03:15] <chrapacz2000> that is why
i am forced to buy from polish services
L563[16:03:59] <Skye> ask them if it's
inbound or outbound blocking, and tell them that it's to connect to
any website, and you cannot get the IP of every website on the
internet
L564[16:07:26] <chrapacz2000> ok
L565[16:07:27] <chrapacz2000> done
L566[16:07:30] <chrapacz2000> now we
wait
L567[16:08:02] <CompanionCube> if all else
fails you get to write OC's first tunnel/vpn
L568[16:09:26] <chrapacz2000> well.... i
am not any programist i am just a script kiddie wirting basic
programs for fun
L569[16:11:31] <Skye> chrapacz2000, the
stepping stone between then is when you start writing programs out
of anger
L570[16:12:01] <asie> Skye: hi?
L571[16:12:42] <Skye> asie, I was worried
we'd need someone to help with polish stuff, but they translated
stuff enough for us to realise that the server host is not
good.
L572[16:13:03] <chrapacz2000> well gtg it
is 11 PM for me see you guys!
L573[16:13:12] <Skye> ah well
goodnight
L574[16:13:26] <Skye> hopefully you don't
need to find a workaround or get a new server host
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L577[16:21:18] <Temia> I wonder if there
are any roguelikes written for OC.
L578[16:22:58] <Skye> Temia, I think there
was one for CC
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L583[16:31:23]
<Forecaster>
Dammit
L585[16:31:47]
<Forecaster>
That's the right one
L586[16:33:17] <ben_mkiv> well i thought
of games for the AR Glasses stuff
L588[16:44:29]
<Forecaster>
From 2 years ago
L589[16:45:00]
<Forecaster>
And I just happen to random into that the day before valentines
day
L590[16:45:20] <ben_mkiv>
"random"
L591[16:45:33] <ben_mkiv> perhabs trending
because people search for it today
L592[16:50:26]
<Forecaster>
No
L593[16:50:36]
<Forecaster>
I only browse random imgur
L595[16:52:48]
<Forecaster>
If it was in trending now it'd probably be a repost, not one from 2
years ago
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L605[18:01:36] <payonel> DCNick3: still
here?
L606[18:03:32] <payonel> %tell DCNick3
good news and bad news. bad news: we dont feel this feature
justifies changing the oc natives, and honestly, that'd be a
requirement for the new userdata type. so...the feature is
rejected. good news: you can do a lot of what you want via
unmanaged drives
L607[18:03:32] <MichiBot> payonel: DCNick3
will be notified of this message when next seen.
L608[18:04:00] <payonel> i'll update the
pr
L609[18:12:21] <payonel> Temia: i'd like
to port one, any requests?
L610[18:20:53] <Skye> payonel,
seriously...?
L611[18:21:15] <Skye> the point of string
buffers is for convenience
L612[18:21:26] <Skye> unmanaged drives are
not convenient...
L613[18:22:42] <Skye> sorry if that sounds
rude but it just sounds so silly
L614[18:31:39]
<Kodos> What
I want to know is, how come Soni hasn't been banned from the repo
yet. Like, I've yet to see something substantial from them wrt
contributions, issues, PRs, etc.
L615[18:36:24] <Skye> yea huh
L616[18:36:29] <Skye> I read what I just
said here
L617[18:36:33] <Skye> sorry I was
rude
L618[18:36:39] <Skye> but I'm actually
surprised
L619[18:38:00] <Skye> I explained stuff in
the PR comments...
L620[18:38:05] *
Skye pokes payonel you here?
L621[18:38:45] <vifino> woot, my
smartwatch works!
L622[18:38:50] *
vifino dances
L623[18:39:14] <vifino> actually, lets
not. i'm depressed as shit and got told my grandpa might have
cancer a day ago.
L624[18:39:27] <vifino> instead, i'll just
glare at it.
L625[18:39:45]
<MGR>
vifino, I hope it doesn't end up too bad with your
grandfather
L626[18:40:03] <Skye> vifino, eh, come on,
accept the small victories in life, no matter how silly or
stupid
L627[18:40:43] <vifino> @MGR Me too, me
too...
L628[18:42:10] <vifino> Skye: meh, my life
is just a shitshow and doesn't seem to be getting better anytime
soon.
L629[18:42:57] <Skye> exactly why you
should celebrate small stuff, like getting that smartwatch to
work.
L630[18:43:00] <vifino> what's the point
in claiming small victories if the grand scheme of things is an
always continuing downward slope?
L631[18:43:15] <Skye> because your mind
makes it worse
L632[18:43:26] <Skye> so you need to trick
your mind to not make it worse
L633[18:44:10] <vifino> last time i
checked, one of the few close relative one has getting cancer is
pretty bad.
L634[18:46:02] <Skye> vifino, I know...
but don't let it ruin everything else, for your sanity.
L635[18:47:53] <AmandaC> Nobody's saying
it's not bad, they're just saying that it doesn't have to taint
everything else
L636[18:49:03] <Skye> (I kinda know from
experience here... my grandma got cancer, and died... but that also
started a series of events was where I actually seriously learned
how to code. If I let that get tainted... well I wouldn't be here
today would I?)
L637[18:53:18] <AmandaC> This is one of
the grossest analgies I've ever come up with, but: don't mix shit
with your chocolate, just enjoy the chocolate
L638[18:58:59] <AmandaC> Enjoying
something while the world burns around you is fine, I guess is
another point to make
L639[18:59:31] <AmandaC> Anyway, I'm going
to go get a shower because I feel gross
L640[18:59:38] <AmandaC> Bbs/l
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L642[19:51:33] <Mimiru> Skye, [18:13:30]
-*status- *** payonel detached (from
L643[19:51:58] <Mimiru> a bit late for the
discussion, but no, payonel wasn't here.
L644[19:52:03] <Mimiru> (and still
isn't)
L645[19:58:51] *
Mimiru grumbles
L646[19:59:11] <Mimiru> so I switched to
IDEA... and I can debug with OC again...
L647[19:59:43] <Mimiru> using eclispe
trying to run a computer while launched via the IDE would crash
cause the integrated server with try to get the screen text
classes
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L649[20:13:11] <AmandaC> Mimiru's spy
network is vast, and focused entirely on finding the cure for
cookie deprevation
L650[20:13:22] *
AmandaC beams some cookies in front of Mimiru
L651[20:14:20] <Mimiru> \o/
L652[20:14:23] <Mimiru> COOOOOKIE
L653[20:18:24]
<MGR>
Michiyo = Cookie Monster?
L654[20:18:29]
<MGR>
Surprise twist!
L655[20:18:41] <AmandaC> VHAT A
TWEEST
L656[20:19:46]
<MGR> I
pictured Cookie Monster with my mental image of Michiyo's face
really badly PhotoShopped on top, and burst out laughing
L657[20:19:53] <Mimiru> so.. OS can once
again write EEPROMs
L658[20:20:05] <Mimiru> and tag players
with RFIDs since that's been broken for who knows how long
._.
L659[20:20:14] <AmandaC> Why can Oragatang
Socks write EEPROMs?
L660[20:20:21] <AmandaC> ( sorry )
L661[20:20:25] <AmandaC> (( I'll go
))
L662[20:20:39] <Mimiru> lol..
L663[20:20:45]
<MGR> Tag
players with RFIDs? What does that mean?
L664[20:20:54] <Mimiru> you can write data
to an RFID...
L665[20:20:58] <Mimiru> then whack someone
with it.
L666[20:21:08] <Mimiru> and it'll imprint
that data on them (This always worked with mobs)
L667[20:21:13]
<MGR> That's
cool
L668[20:21:22] <Mimiru> you can then scan
with an RFID reader and you'll get their data.
L669[20:21:22] <AmandaC> Mimiru: does it
make a loud "Ding!" noise like that one blood-curse
mod?
L670[20:21:29]
<MGR> If you
whack a new card, does that update the data?
L671[20:21:31] <Mimiru> it makes no
sound.
L672[20:21:36] <Mimiru> yes
L673[20:21:43] <Mimiru> (I hope :D)
L674[20:23:09] <Mimiru> and it doesn't
persist through death.
L675[20:28:16]
<MGR> Good
to know
L676[20:28:24]
<MGR> Sounds
like a cool feature!
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L683[22:21:05]
<{MonTaGaTnoM}Shawn> The Cryptek ??
L684[22:21:10]
<{MonTaGaTnoM}Shawn> The Cryptek ??
[Edited]
L685[22:21:14]
<{MonTaGaTnoM}Shawn> long time no see
L686[22:21:30]
<{MonTaGaTnoM}Shawn> I need to speak to him
next time he's on
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