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L1[00:35:32] <asie> yes
L2[00:35:36] <asie> sort of
L3[00:35:39] <asie> on phone
L4[00:56:32] <Kodos> %weather 62033
L5[00:56:33] <MichiBot> Current weather for Gillespie, IL Current Temp: 12.3°F/-10.9°C Feels Like: 5°F/-15°C Current Humidity: 67% Wind: From the South 4.4 Mph/7.1 Km/h Conditions: Overcast
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L7[01:28:43] <Forecaster> %magic
L8[01:28:44] <MichiBot> Forecaster: http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/magic.gif
L9[01:29:18] <Forecaster> %addcommand guurl https://i.imgur.com/V4lf3xp.jpg
L10[01:29:19] <MichiBot> Forecaster: Command Added
L11[01:34:29] <Sarren Nardieu> asie how do i make a LuPI2?
L12[01:34:38] <Sarren Nardieu> i made a cross compiler
L13[01:36:57] <Sarren Nardieu> i changed the dependency.sh and the Makefile to have the cross compilers name in them
L14[01:37:19] <Sarren Nardieu> i *think* the dependency script worked
L15[01:37:30] <Sarren Nardieu> but the Makefile doesnt seem to work at all
L16[01:37:59] <Sarren Nardieu> it gets stuck at fatal error lua.h no such file or directory
L17[01:38:28] <Sarren Nardieu> sorry thats lupi.h
L18[01:38:53] <Sarren Nardieu> oh wait i might need to install lua?
L19[01:39:27] <Izaya> that seems important
L20[01:39:46] <Sarren Nardieu> xD
L21[01:39:59] <Forecaster> mind over matter, probably works?
L22[01:40:41] <Sarren Nardieu> gah
L23[01:40:46] <Sarren Nardieu> why are there so many luas
L24[01:41:02] <Forecaster> they multiply like gerbils
L25[01:44:00] <Sarren Nardieu> do i need to compile my own lua too D:
L26[01:44:46] <Sarren Nardieu> becuase i apt-got them and rebooted and it still cant find lua.h
L27[01:45:42] <Izaya> you'll need the -devel versions
L28[01:45:49] <Sarren Nardieu> i see
L29[01:46:07] <Izaya> those have the headers and shit
L30[01:46:26] <Sarren Nardieu> so
L31[01:46:29] <Sarren Nardieu> ehm
L32[01:46:38] <Sarren Nardieu> -devel eh?
L33[01:46:49] <Sarren Nardieu> *frantically googles*
L34[01:46:50] <Izaya> -devel, -dev, etc
L35[01:46:56] <Izaya> varies based on distro
L36[01:47:06] <Izaya> apt-cache search lua dev
L37[01:47:20] <Sarren Nardieu> ?
L38[01:49:02] <Sarren Nardieu> whats the parameter to only show what can fit on my screen at any given time?
L39[01:49:17] <Sarren Nardieu> because i whole bunch of stuff just whizzed past me
L40[01:49:23] <Izaya> pipe it into less
L41[01:49:28] <Izaya> add | less onto the end
L42[01:49:41] <Izaya> more also works
L43[01:50:13] <Sarren Nardieu> ah so is it liblua5.3dev?
L44[01:50:20] <Izaya> maybe?
L45[01:50:26] <Izaya> also, are you not using a proper terminal emulator
L46[01:50:40] <Sarren Nardieu> im using virtual box
L47[01:50:48] <Izaya> o-oh
L48[01:51:19] <Sarren Nardieu> now im stuck in pipe land D:
L49[01:51:28] <Izaya> just press q, probably
L50[01:51:41] <Sarren Nardieu> ah
L51[01:51:52] <Izaya> Also, do yourself a favor, enable sshd and log in via putty or similar
L52[01:52:19] <Izaya> Gives you a proper terminal emulator that you can copy/paste from/into and scroll and stuff
L53[01:55:12] <Sarren Nardieu> it still cant find lua.h ?
L54[01:55:40] <Izaya> Is it the right Lua version?
L55[01:55:53] <Sarren Nardieu> dam those gerbils
L56[01:55:55] <Sarren Nardieu> xD
L57[01:56:00] <Sarren Nardieu> ill just downalod all of them
L58[01:59:28] <Sarren Nardieu> the makefile seems to be looking for a $CORELUA path but it doesnt seem to be defined
L59[01:59:44] <Sarren Nardieu> do i need to add that to my ~/.bashrc or something?
L60[02:01:25] <Sarren Nardieu> oh wait ti is defined
L61[02:22:23] <Forecaster> https://i.imgur.com/KUKdMjs.png
L62[02:23:46] <Sarren Nardieu> xD
L63[02:23:56] <Sarren Nardieu> that is too perfect
L64[02:26:47] <Forecaster> now the question is, why do they want to be naked
L65[02:26:54] <Sarren Nardieu> lol
L66[02:27:05] <Sarren Nardieu> why wouldnt they ?
L67[02:27:40] <Sarren Nardieu> i think i have it figured out though
L68[02:27:58] <Sarren Nardieu> basically its a case of "some parts sold seperately"
L69[02:28:22] <Sarren Nardieu> theres an 'include' folder that i have to add a bunch of stuff to
L70[02:35:31] <Sarren Nardieu> ok im stuck
L71[02:35:42] <Sarren Nardieu> i seem to need a special verison of something called openssl
L72[02:35:48] <Sarren Nardieu> version*
L73[02:36:35] <Izaya> probably the devel version because it wants headers
L74[02:36:44] <Izaya> didn't it come with a list of dependencies?
L75[02:36:49] <Sarren Nardieu> nope
L76[02:59:51] <Forecaster> https://i.imgur.com/4Lv0Yoc.jpg
L77[02:59:56] <Forecaster> this threw me off
L78[03:03:29] <Sarren Nardieu> ho-meeeeooow-ner
L79[03:05:06] <TheFox> wow that actually..
L80[03:05:08] <TheFox> ...
L81[03:05:09] <TheFox> ok
L82[03:21:16] <Kodos> Anyone awake with Ubuntu Server experience?
L83[03:22:16] <Forecaster> sure
L84[03:22:23] <Corded> * <Forecaster> is at work
L85[03:22:37] <Kodos> I'm at the part of installation where it's asking about partitioning my disk
L86[03:22:38] <Forecaster> which probably means I'm awake, maybe
L87[03:22:45] <Kodos> I do not want to do that, which option do I pick
L88[03:23:07] <Forecaster> oh, that's a thing I went through several years ago and have never repeated...
L89[03:23:11] <Forecaster> what are the other options?
L90[03:23:26] <Kodos> 7 Guided options, and 'Manual'
L91[03:23:36] <Sarren Nardieu> do manual
L92[03:23:43] <Sarren Nardieu> then just chose to do nothing
L93[03:24:11] <Forecaster> that sounds like a good choice
L94[03:24:30] <Sarren Nardieu> but surely youd have to partition something to put the thing you're insatlling on
L95[03:24:31] <Kodos> I don't see a nothing option, but there's a 159 GB ext4, and 1.1GB of Swap
L96[03:24:37] <Kodos> Are those decent settings
L97[03:25:12] <Sarren Nardieu> why do yuo ask that?
L98[03:25:32] <Kodos> Because I'm hoping/assuming one of you two know more about this than I do
L99[03:25:58] <Sarren Nardieu> what machine are you insatlling ubuntu on?
L100[03:26:20] <Kodos> My dinky little netbook
L101[03:26:32] <Forecaster> a good question is probably why you don't want to partition the disk?
L102[03:26:35] <Forecaster> dual booting?
L103[03:26:35] <Sarren Nardieu> are yuo overwriting the rpevious os?
L104[03:26:51] <Kodos> No, I just don't generally partition
L105[03:26:52] <Kodos> Tes
L106[03:26:57] <Kodos> Yes [Edited]
L107[03:27:18] <Sarren Nardieu> no to dual booting or overwriting?
L108[03:27:25] <Kodos> No to dual booting
L109[03:27:28] <Kodos> YEs to overwrite
L110[03:27:31] <Sarren Nardieu> ah
L111[03:27:41] <Sarren Nardieu> then you do want to partition the whole drive
L112[03:27:49] <Sarren Nardieu> assuming you have only one
L113[03:27:53] <Kodos> Yes
L114[03:27:55] <Sarren Nardieu> you will lose data though
L115[03:28:01] <Kodos> Nothing important
L116[03:28:08] <Sarren Nardieu> unless your os was ona sperate partition to begin with
L117[03:28:47] <Kodos> Oaky, so
L118[03:28:52] <Kodos> Guided - Use entire disk?
L119[03:28:59] <Sarren Nardieu> yes thats the one
L120[03:30:48] <Kodos> Okay, installing base system now. Gonna go put my wife to bed
L121[03:32:10] <Lizzian> was about to help, but i see you've already been helped ?
L122[03:32:38] <Sarren Nardieu> you can help me ?
L123[03:32:44] <Lizzian> i can try
L124[03:32:49] <Sarren Nardieu> ok first problem
L125[03:32:57] <Sarren Nardieu> i exported some paths
L126[03:33:02] <Sarren Nardieu> i rebooted
L127[03:33:06] <Sarren Nardieu> they are now gone ?
L128[03:33:16] <Sarren Nardieu> how do i make them stick?
L129[03:33:24] <Lizzian> when you say exported, do you mean in your shell or NFS exports?
L130[03:33:54] <Sarren Nardieu> i mean i went export CROSS=arm-unknown-linux-gnueabi
L131[03:34:00] <Lizzian> ah
L132[03:34:54] <Lizzian> so shell, since you're most likely using Bash. add the following to your .bashrc
L133[03:34:54] <Lizzian> Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/weweyewewu
L134[03:34:58] <Sarren Nardieu> ok cool
L135[03:35:14] <Sarren Nardieu> so dont just type it into terminal xD
L136[03:35:21] <Sarren Nardieu> add to the actual file
L137[03:35:23] <Lizzian> yes
L138[03:35:24] <Sarren Nardieu> roger
L139[03:36:02] <Lizzian> the export is temporary to that session (and any child sessions), putting it in the .bashrc means you get it on any shell you open
L140[03:36:06] <Sarren Nardieu> next problem si my openssl ./Configure file wont accept my cross compiler
L141[03:36:14] <Sarren Nardieu> is*
L142[03:36:53] <Lizzian> hmm, i don't think i can help much with that
L143[03:37:00] <Sarren Nardieu> ?
L144[03:37:08] <Forecaster> https://i.imgur.com/GMVVTij.gif
L145[03:37:53] <Kodos> lol
L146[03:38:57] <Forecaster> I like the hand gesture about when he realized it's too late to close the door
L147[03:39:19] <Forecaster> like "Oh would you look at that"
L148[03:42:38] <Sarren Nardieu> is there a way to keep your command histroy after a reboot?
L149[03:42:39] <TheFox> what was he even try to get?
L150[03:42:53] <TheFox> it looks like he took his wiper off
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L152[03:43:34] zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L153[03:43:38] <Lizzian> @Sarren Nardieu it should keep automatically, it gets stored in the .bash_history file. i'm not sure how bash handles multiple shells writing to that file though
L154[03:43:52] <Sarren Nardieu> ok cool
L155[03:45:03] <Sarren Nardieu> hmmm i dotn seem to have one of those
L156[03:45:06] <Sarren Nardieu> dont*
L157[03:45:44] <Forecaster> @TheFox he was correcting the position of the wiper for some reason
L158[03:45:49] <Forecaster> it had moved up a bit
L159[03:46:11] <Forecaster> or wait, no...
L160[03:46:15] <Forecaster> I have no idea what he's doing
L161[03:46:22] <TheFox> It looks like he's taking it off, eyah?
L162[03:46:29] <Forecaster> I dunno
L163[03:46:35] <Sarren Nardieu> he wanted to be internet famous that's what he was doing
L164[03:46:53] <TheFox> I do agree tho, that hand gesture like "What is this doing here"
L165[03:46:58] <TheFox> what the hell did you expect,
L166[03:47:13] <Forecaster> I think there are better ways of getting internet famous that doesn't result in destroying your car :P
L167[03:47:23] <Forecaster> replacing that door isn't going to be cheap
L168[03:48:21] <TheFox> ohhh
L169[03:48:25] <TheFox> he's reseating the wiper
L170[03:48:44] <TheFox> http://tinyurl.com/yaeoujmg
L171[03:48:58] <TheFox> he doesn't take it off, just lifts it up and pops it back down
L172[03:50:12] <Forecaster> yeah, that's what I thought it looked like, but I thought it was because it was not in the right position for some reason
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L174[03:58:30] <Forecaster> https://i.imgur.com/ZR0ixHf.mp4
L175[03:58:33] <Forecaster> this is amazing
L176[04:01:51] <Kodos> Okay, I think I probably did something wrong, but I can't afford to stay up for another install. I have shit to do in like 9 hours
L177[04:02:17] <Kodos> So, real quick, my screen says "/dev/sda1: clean, some numbers about files, numbers about blocks
L178[04:02:23] <Kodos> Do I need to do anything, or is it still working
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L181[04:05:02] <Lizzian> @Kodos that'd probably fsck or File System Check, like check-disk in dindows
L182[04:05:15] <Lizzian> if it didn't give any errors you should be fine
L183[04:05:20] <Lizzian> *windows
L184[04:05:41] <Kodos> It didn't look like it was erroring, just.... not making any indication that it was doing anything other than my CPU light on my status light bar was on
L185[04:05:55] <Kodos> I'll turn it on tomorrow when I get back from the dr office and let it run
L186[04:06:01] <Kodos> I can't stay awake to babysit it tonight
L187[04:06:50] <scj643> The Intel CPU explot
L188[04:06:54] <scj643> Exploit
L189[04:07:05] <Kodos> ?
L190[04:07:16] <scj643> You haven't heard
L191[04:08:01] <Kodos> Maybe just tell me so I can go to bed
L192[04:08:37] <scj643> The design level flaw that could let unprivileged code read kernel memroy
L193[04:08:39] <scj643> Memory
L194[04:09:36] <Lizzian> got an artical link?
L195[04:09:48] <Kodos> I mean, it's a fresh install of ubuntu server from ubuntu's site. I doubt it's bad/malicious code
L196[04:10:07] <Kodos> The netbook is old af and tiny, so it's likely just chugging along
L197[04:10:12] <Lizzian> i don't think he was meaning that in reference to your system
L198[04:10:15] <Kodos> Ah
L199[04:10:22] <Kodos> In that case, night!
L200[04:10:32] <Sarren Nardieu> gnight
L201[04:11:54] <Sarren Nardieu> has anyone ever cross ompiled openssl for arm?
L202[04:11:59] <Sarren Nardieu> compiled*
L203[04:12:46] <Lizzian> nope, cause the only ARM stuff i have is raspberry pis and AFAIK both Arch Linux ARM and Raspbian have it installed/in their repos
L204[04:13:31] <Sarren Nardieu> but i want opencomputers on my pi ?
L205[04:13:33] <scj643> Yes
L206[04:13:52] <scj643> I thought someone would have
L207[04:14:25] <scj643> I can get openssl through termux on my Android phone
L208[04:16:35] <Sarren Nardieu> i mean
L209[04:16:39] <Sarren Nardieu> it would be fine
L210[04:16:49] <Sarren Nardieu> if this error message made any sense...
L211[04:17:32] <Sarren Nardieu> arm-unknown-linux-gnueabi-gcc: error trying to exec 'cc1'
L212[04:18:28] <Sarren Nardieu> i have no idea where it would even get the notion to print 'cc1' to my screen
L213[04:18:35] <Sarren Nardieu> i mean what is that?
L214[04:19:05] <scj643> How would you even run opencomputers on pi
L215[04:19:14] <Sarren Nardieu> its called LuPI2
L216[04:19:20] <scj643> ?
L217[04:19:40] <scj643> Oh
L218[04:19:47] <Sarren Nardieu> https://github.com/StarChasers/LuPI2
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L222[04:46:49] <AmandaC> asie: kk
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L231[05:07:30] <Forecaster> @Sarren Nardieu do you mean OpenOS?
L232[05:07:41] <Sarren Nardieu> yeah i suppose xD
L233[05:07:59] <Sarren Nardieu> except i think this one uses plan9k
L234[05:08:06] <Sarren Nardieu> ?
L235[05:10:44] <Forecaster> LuPi2?
L236[05:10:51] <Sarren Nardieu> yes
L237[05:11:14] <Forecaster> What makes you think it's based of off anything from oc?
L238[05:11:28] <Sarren Nardieu> because it says so on the box
L239[05:12:03] <Forecaster> Oh, so it does
L240[05:12:12] <Sarren Nardieu> lol
L241[05:12:36] <Forecaster> Til the mobile site doesn't show the whole readme on the project front page
L242[05:12:42] <Sarren Nardieu> xD
L243[05:13:20] <Sarren Nardieu> oh golly gee batman!
L244[05:13:28] <Sarren Nardieu> i just cross compiled openssl!
L245[05:13:31] <Sarren Nardieu> woot!
L246[05:13:36] <Forecaster> Yay
L247[05:13:40] <Sarren Nardieu> ?
L248[05:14:32] <Sarren Nardieu> ok whats the next step xD
L249[05:14:46] <Forecaster> Take over the world?
L250[05:15:11] <Sarren Nardieu> i think there might be a few steps in between....
L251[05:15:13] <Sarren Nardieu> xD
L252[05:16:58] <Sarren Nardieu> so do i put the openssl include folder int eh lupi2 include folder or the openssl bin folder in the lupi include folder
L253[05:17:05] <Sarren Nardieu> the*
L254[05:20:02] <Sarren Nardieu> ah found it
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L256[05:24:39] <Sarren Nardieu> ok apparetnyl the next thing i need is event2???
L257[05:24:41] <AmandaC> Good news.
L258[05:24:53] <AmandaC> We're trapped in the airport.
L259[05:25:00] <Sarren Nardieu> oh noes D:
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L261[05:51:21] <Forecaster> https://imgur.com/gallery/Mev10
L262[05:52:56] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSdiBAbw2Cc ~
L263[05:52:56] <MichiBot> Angela - Kishi Koushinkyoku | length: 4m 41s | Likes: 201 Dislikes: 3 Views: 11,867 | by Dinarte Moscon | Published On 31/12/2016
L264[05:54:47] <Sarren Nardieu> im really starting to feel like the linux gerbil now
L265[05:55:12] <Sarren Nardieu> no mater how many times i go to get my hair cut i cant quite get a clean shave
L266[05:55:20] <Inari> %give MichiBot the linux gerbil
L267[05:55:20] * MichiBot accepts the linux gerbil and adds it to her inventory
L268[05:55:36] <Inari> @"Sarren Nardieu" clean shave?
L269[05:56:01] <Forecaster> I think that's a hamster
L270[05:56:11] <Sarren Nardieu> you now when yuor tring to compile something and it gives an error and you fix that then it gives another error and you fix that one then another an another
L271[05:56:19] <Sarren Nardieu> your trying*
L272[05:56:30] <Sarren Nardieu> and*
L273[05:56:41] <Sarren Nardieu> sooo many errors!
L274[05:56:44] <Sarren Nardieu> D:
L275[05:56:46] <Inari> Oh :p
L276[05:57:01] <Forecaster> you're* actually
L277[05:57:09] <Sarren Nardieu> dammit
L278[05:57:25] <Sarren Nardieu> errors!
L279[05:57:34] <Forecaster> rm -rf /
L280[05:57:42] <Sarren Nardieu> nooo
L281[05:57:44] <Sarren Nardieu> wait
L282[05:57:46] <Sarren Nardieu> maybe
L283[05:57:49] <Sarren Nardieu> no
L284[05:58:09] <Sarren Nardieu> you really think is hould trya fresh install?
L285[05:58:17] <Sarren Nardieu> i should*
L286[05:58:38] <Sarren Nardieu> gah my arms are tired from typing D:
L287[05:59:10] <Forecaster> I don't think that would help with your typos :P
L288[05:59:17] <Sarren Nardieu> im sure @asie could tell me what to do
L289[05:59:23] <Inari> s/arms/face
L290[05:59:23] <MichiBot> <Sarren Nardieu> gah my face are tired from typing D:
L291[05:59:31] <Inari> DAmn now "are" doesn't work
L292[05:59:31] <Inari> :p
L293[05:59:55] <Sarren Nardieu> i think it's better this way
L294[05:59:58] <Sarren Nardieu> xD
L295[06:00:03] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5b6qH48bslA
L296[06:00:03] <MichiBot> Mass Effect Andromeda - My Face is tired | length: 23s | Likes: 1,080 Dislikes: 23 Views: 144,562 | by DeltaD36 | Published On 16/3/2017
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L298[06:01:01] <Sarren Nardieu> i cant believe the amount of grief that game got over silly animation quirks
L299[06:01:11] <Inari> Haha
L300[06:01:13] <Inari> I liked it overall
L301[06:01:15] <Sarren Nardieu> it was actually a pretty good game D:
L302[06:01:30] <Sarren Nardieu> i did too ?
L303[06:01:39] <Forecaster> I haven't played it! yaaay
L304[06:01:43] <Sarren Nardieu> ?
L305[06:02:03] <Sarren Nardieu> a challenger approaches!
L306[06:02:06] <Forecaster> https://imgur.com/gallery/MeAuWG2
L307[06:02:15] <Sarren Nardieu> ooooh
L308[06:02:42] <Sarren Nardieu> another reason why being a dude sucks D:
L309[06:02:47] <neumond> they like face closeups so much
L310[06:03:01] <Sarren Nardieu> neumond appears!
L311[06:03:08] <Sarren Nardieu> fight!
L312[06:03:11] <Sarren Nardieu> lol
L313[06:03:13] <Corded> * <neumond> hides back
L314[06:03:18] <Sarren Nardieu> no D:
L315[06:04:37] <Sarren Nardieu> forecaster are you a girl?
L316[06:05:22] <Sarren Nardieu> i want to be a girl ?
L317[06:09:41] <Inari> Thats one ugly "dress" xD
L318[06:10:50] <Sarren Nardieu> it looks like a flower though
L319[06:10:55] <Sarren Nardieu> flowers are pretty ?
L320[06:11:15] <Inari> Ehhh
L321[06:11:20] <Sarren Nardieu> xD
L322[06:13:16] <Forecaster> Pretty sure I'm not
L323[06:13:32] <Sarren Nardieu> then your stuck on the same boat as me
L324[06:14:15] <Forecaster> I don't even like boats!
L325[06:14:15] <Inari> Well there are ways for you, if you'd truly mean that :p Though while I don't know too mucha bout the topic, I think it generally needs a bit more than "Ohh pretty dress!" xD
L326[06:14:32] <Sarren Nardieu> lol
L327[06:14:37] <Forecaster> @Sarren Nardieu make a fiber optic suit
L328[06:14:47] <Sarren Nardieu> but i want to be pretty ?
L329[06:15:57] <Inari> Brolita?
L330[06:16:00] <Forecaster> https://imgur.com/gallery/MeovfuR
L331[06:16:53] <Forecaster> I called my gf pretty once and she said "you too"
L332[06:16:54] <Forecaster> :P
L333[06:18:00] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vERhLMvJwwc
L334[06:18:00] <MichiBot> How to BROLITA ♂ MALE Lolita Tutorial ｜10 STEPS for Beginners with Kisamake | length: 9m 7s | Likes: 807 Dislikes: 21 Views: 53,592 | by Cathy Cat カティー | Published On 16/5/2016
L335[06:18:04] <Inari> There you go
L336[06:18:19] <Sarren Nardieu> Thanks Inari xD
L337[06:18:52] <MGR> Quick question
L338[06:18:56] <Inari> You could try some other street fashion, depending on what you find pretty :P Like Decora
L339[06:19:08] <Inari> https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Y1RC3KSLf-k/maxresdefault.jpg
L340[06:19:29] <MGR> If you're a space pirate, would you spend a lot of time hanging around in deep space with nobody to pirate from?
L341[06:19:33] <Inari> @MGR By saying that before the quesiton you already made it a not-quick question
L342[06:20:09] <Sarren Nardieu> if you were a space pirate you'd probably stick to busy space lanes
L343[06:20:10] <Inari> @MGR No clue. you'd want a homebase, stealth is relatively impossible in space
L344[06:20:20] <MGR> Exactly
L345[06:20:39] * Izaya pokes vifino
L346[06:20:45] <Sarren Nardieu> what do you mean stealth is impossible
L347[06:20:52] <MGR> Then why do my deep space expeditions keep getting attacked by drunk space pirates????
L348[06:21:14] <Sarren Nardieu> in which game?
L349[06:21:16] <Sarren Nardieu> Elite?
L350[06:21:25] <MGR> @Sarren Nardieu you can't conceal your thermal emissions for infinite time unless you can break thermodynamics, or melt yourself
L351[06:21:38] <MGR> Space (IRL) does not work that way
L352[06:21:51] <Forecaster> what do you mean, all you gotta do is paint your ship black, and stay away from nebula
L353[06:21:53] <Forecaster> right
L354[06:21:55] <Izaya> nor in Elite, though I dunno if anyone's talking about that
L355[06:21:58] <SAL9000> @MGR: you can hide in something's shadow though
L356[06:22:05] <Inari> @"Sarren Nardieu" hard to hide emission, hard to hide visuals, etc
L357[06:22:05] <Izaya> speaking of, anyone want to do some fighter racing?
L358[06:22:11] <MGR> SAL, correct
L359[06:22:12] <Inari> SAL9000: But everyone sees you go to that shadow
L360[06:22:20] <SAL9000> ditto for homebase
L361[06:22:22] <MGR> Also correct
L362[06:22:31] <Inari> It's about as effective as hiding in a broom closet when everyone you hide from is around to see you go into that
L363[06:22:36] <Sarren Nardieu> i have elite ?
L364[06:22:40] <SAL9000> and you can use time-limited stealth to get to the shadow, FWIW
L365[06:22:43] <Sarren Nardieu> @izaya
L366[06:22:54] <SAL9000> i.e. temporarily hide thermal signature, hide near a star, dump heat
L367[06:23:02] <Izaya> got a ship with a fighter bay?
L368[06:23:03] <Forecaster> https://i.imgur.com/jDtGoSb.mp4
L369[06:23:09] <MGR> Yep, but that is limited time use
L370[06:23:09] <Sarren Nardieu> nope
L371[06:23:11] <Inari> SAL9000: You'll still need thrust
L372[06:23:12] <Sarren Nardieu> lol
L373[06:23:15] <Izaya> ah
L374[06:23:18] <Izaya> got a small ship?
L375[06:23:19] <Inari> And you're still visually there
L376[06:23:20] <Sarren Nardieu> yes
L377[06:23:21] <Izaya> think Eagle or similar
L378[06:23:26] <Izaya> alright that'd work
L379[06:23:43] <SAL9000> Inari: Nope, because you're in orbit around the star
L380[06:24:03] <SAL9000> (i.e. you only use thrust to get yourself into a suitable orbit)
L381[06:24:18] <Inari> Thus everyone sees you thrust. But eh
L382[06:24:43] <Inari> Space piracy seems unlikely anyway
L383[06:24:46] <Inari> Too much space
L384[06:24:49] <Izaya> Place it'll be at is Gang Yun A 2 A
L385[06:24:53] <SAL9000> Everyone sees you thrust, yes. I'm not seeing a way around that beyond alternative thrust technologies.
L386[06:25:01] <Inari> Everyone sees you from a million miles away
L387[06:25:05] <SAL9000> Izaya: ?
L388[06:25:09] <Forecaster> EM drive woo
L389[06:25:13] <Izaya> Fighter racing :D
L390[06:25:16] <SAL9000> Inari: there is the ECM option
L391[06:25:58] <Inari> I mean, I doubt thats possible
L392[06:26:02] <Inari> But I guess
L393[06:26:04] <Sarren Nardieu> just need to update the connector thing
L394[06:27:00] ⇨ Joins: smoke_fumus (smoke_fumus!~smoke_fum@188.35.176.90)
L395[06:27:48] <Izaya> side note
L396[06:28:00] <Sarren Nardieu> ?
L397[06:28:01] <Izaya> in glide sometimes the game ignores my controls
L398[06:28:02] <SAL9000> From what I can see, the only real option is to somehow (ECM, sabotage...) blind everyone to your position while you're applying thrust. This gets easier if you can pre-calculate a trajectory that ends up with you in a stable orbit around the sun or gas giant you're aiming for (in one maneuvre) due to perturbations from other bodies and suchlike, since then you don't need to blind everyone twice.
L399[06:28:14] <Sarren Nardieu> xD
L400[06:28:15] <SAL9000> Izaya: glide as in planetary glide?
L401[06:28:25] <Izaya> it's very inconvenient because I'll have to mash the joystick around to get it to see anything
L402[06:28:27] <Izaya> yeah
L403[06:28:49] <MGR> ECM?
L404[06:29:23] <SAL9000> @MGR: Electronic Counter Measures
L405[06:29:30] <MGR> Ahhhh
L406[06:29:38] <MGR> Makes sense
L407[06:29:41] <SAL9000> Izaya: I imagine it's because the ships in Elite aren't really designed for in-atmo flight, so it's kinda simulating gimbal lock
L408[06:30:01] <SAL9000> s/gimbal/compression/
L409[06:30:01] <MichiBot> <SAL9000> Izaya: I imagine it's because the ships in Elite aren't really designed for in-atmo flight, so it's kinda simulating compression lock
L410[06:30:06] <Sarren Nardieu> 28 jumps away D:
L411[06:30:16] <Sarren Nardieu> that would take like an hour
L412[06:30:21] <SAL9000> @"Sarren Nardieu": upgrade yo jumpdrive
L413[06:30:26] <SAL9000> and/or use a neutron star
L414[06:30:29] <Sarren Nardieu> i has no moneys ?
L415[06:30:30] <Izaya> I mean it's fair that my anaconda handles like an annoyed skyscraper but it just doesn't do ANYTHING
L416[06:30:32] <Forecaster> Izaya: That happens to me as well
L417[06:30:33] <Izaya> very inconvenient
L418[06:30:52] <Forecaster> how'd you get an anaconda this quickly xD
L419[06:30:55] <Forecaster> what'd you do
L420[06:31:01] <Sarren Nardieu> are the selling creidts for real money yet?
L421[06:31:03] <Izaya> Sarren: you can turn off economy route planning
L422[06:31:05] <Sarren Nardieu> credits*
L423[06:31:11] <Sarren Nardieu> .........
L424[06:31:16] <Sarren Nardieu> .....excuse
L425[06:31:21] <Sarren Nardieu> excuse me.....
L426[06:31:24] <Sarren Nardieu> ahem
L427[06:31:27] <Izaya> Forecaster: passengers to somewhere slightly less obnoxious than Alpha Centauri
L428[06:31:34] <Sarren Nardieu> i have been playing this game since premium beta!
L429[06:31:36] <Izaya> 40 min supercruise
L430[06:31:45] <Sarren Nardieu> i am elite super dude extraordinaire
L431[06:31:46] <Izaya> 10 mil for 20 passengers
L432[06:31:53] <Sarren Nardieu> lol
L433[06:31:55] <Forecaster> I've tried finding passenger missions to AC, but didn't get any
L434[06:31:55] <Sarren Nardieu> jk
L435[06:31:58] <SAL9000> Izaya: where do you find those missions :O
L436[06:32:08] <Forecaster> Izaya: reveal to me this location!
L437[06:32:10] <SAL9000> iirc the most I've got for pax so far is ~1.5mil
L438[06:32:15] <Izaya> Upsilon Aquarii to LTT 9360 IIRC
L439[06:32:19] <SAL9000> maybe because my trade rank sux
L440[06:32:19] <Forecaster> nice
L441[06:33:00] <Izaya> I was gonna go Fed Corvette but I don't have the rank for it yet
L442[06:33:03] <Forecaster> I wonder how playing over remote control would work...
L443[06:33:12] <Sarren Nardieu> i can rememeber when there were only 5 systems, heck i can rememebr when there was no supercruise
L444[06:33:14] <SAL9000> @Forecaster: ??
L445[06:33:35] <Izaya> https://my.mixtape.moe/upayba.jpg this is the place
L446[06:34:14] <SAL9000> >thargoids want hugs
L447[06:34:16] <SAL9000> best ship name
L448[06:34:30] <Izaya> I couldn't fit just in there I'm afraid
L449[06:34:38] <SAL9000> still best
L450[06:34:51] <Izaya> I also can't afford a nametag to put on the side
L451[06:34:52] <Sarren Nardieu> i want hugs ?
L452[06:34:53] <Izaya> oh well
L453[06:35:24] <Forecaster> SAL9000: ??!
L454[06:35:29] <SAL9000> 23:03:03 <+Corded> <Forecaster> I wonder how playing over remote control would work...
L455[06:36:14] <Forecaster> yes? I don't know what's ambiguous about that
L456[06:36:45] <Sarren Nardieu> http://tinyurl.com/yamojctj
L457[06:36:49] <SAL9000> I assume you're talking about Elite, but I dunno what you mean by remote control in that context?
L458[06:37:26] <Izaya> if you manage to play with one ofd those I'll be impressed
L459[06:37:29] <Izaya> but at the same time
L460[06:37:31] <Izaya> that has a lot of buttons
L461[06:37:47] <Forecaster> I'm at work, remote controlling my main workstation at home
L462[06:37:59] <SAL9000> oh, so you mean VNC/RDP
L463[06:38:17] <Forecaster> I'm using Chrome Remote Desktop
L464[06:38:18] <Sarren Nardieu> i would call it remote desktop
L465[06:38:23] <Sarren Nardieu> snap
L466[06:38:38] <SAL9000> my experience trying to play games that way over gigabit LAN indicates that it'll be very painful.
L467[06:38:40] <Forecaster> I'm in Elite now
L468[06:38:56] <Izaya> Steam In-Home Streaming over 10/100 is fine
L469[06:39:02] <Forecaster> it's rather snappy actually
L470[06:39:11] <Forecaster> CRD is quite good
L471[06:39:19] <SAL9000> Izaya: yes, but that's specialized -- I responded specifically in regards to RDP and the like
L472[06:39:21] <SAL9000> @Forecaster: Wow.
L473[06:39:41] <Forecaster> the worst part about this would actually be no controller and no voice control
L474[06:39:46] <Forecaster> but I could totally play this
L475[06:39:54] <SAL9000> :)
L476[06:39:55] <Forecaster> probably not combat, but passenger missions would work fine
L477[06:40:09] <SAL9000> just watch out for wanted pax
L478[06:41:15] <Forecaster> what?
L479[06:41:24] <Forecaster> Found Izayas system, 4 jumps away
L480[06:42:35] <Forecaster> I'm kinda scared launching....
L481[06:42:42] <SAL9000> pax = passengers
L482[06:42:49] <Izaya> I'm currently grinding fed ranks
L483[06:42:52] <Forecaster> oh I can handle that
L484[06:43:13] <Forecaster> I'm a lieutenant in the federation :D
L485[06:43:24] <Izaya> I want my corvette
L486[06:44:03] <Sarren Nardieu> fed scum!
L487[06:44:06] <Sarren Nardieu> lol
L488[06:44:18] <SAL9000> Anyone here with opinions on HOTAS vs HOSAS for Elite (and the like)?
L489[06:44:32] <SAL9000> (i.e. stick + thottle vs dual-stick)
L490[06:44:35] <SAL9000> throttle*
L491[06:44:39] <Forecaster> I want a corvette too
L492[06:44:44] * Izaya is currently using HOTAK
L493[06:45:00] <Izaya> HOTAKWV I guess
L494[06:45:01] <SAL9000> Hands On Throttle and Keyboard?
L495[06:45:03] <Forecaster> I need 4 more ranks to get it
L496[06:45:14] <Izaya> correct
L497[06:45:20] <Izaya> WV being With Voice
L498[06:45:24] <Izaya> which I use more than the keyboard tbh
L499[06:45:37] <SAL9000> ah
L500[06:46:04] <SAL9000> wait, you mean that you use the keyboard for turning the ship?
L501[06:46:11] <Izaya> no
L502[06:46:18] <SAL9000> ministick on throttle?
L503[06:46:22] <Izaya> I use it for throttle control and other stuff
L504[06:46:46] <Izaya> joystick has a throttle control on it but it's under the stick so fuck that
L505[06:47:04] <SAL9000> ok, so joystick + kb + voice
L506[06:47:16] <SAL9000> your abbreviation implied throttle + kb + voice which seemed... weird.
L507[06:47:51] <Sarren Nardieu> HOKAS?
L508[06:47:55] <Sarren Nardieu> HOSAK?
L509[06:48:03] <Sarren Nardieu> ....WV?
L510[06:48:05] <Sarren Nardieu> lol
L511[06:48:12] <Izaya> oh I see my ordering is weird
L512[06:49:29] <SAL9000> not just ordering, s/T/S/
L513[06:49:32] <Forecaster> well that fell apart quickly once I'd undocked xD
L514[06:49:38] <SAL9000> :<
L515[06:49:43] <Izaya> Literally?
L516[06:49:58] * SAL9000 imagines Forecaster's shiny new annie falling to pieces
L517[06:50:20] <Forecaster> the main issue was I could see the regular cursor, which was confusing, and the sensitivity was all weird
L518[06:50:25] <SAL9000> ahh
L519[06:50:31] <Forecaster> and centering was next to impossible
L520[06:50:43] <SAL9000> set a biiig deadzone
L521[06:51:26] <Izaya> side note
L522[06:51:37] <Forecaster> I think I'll wait with playing until I get home :P
L523[06:51:44] <Forecaster> I had to try it though
L524[06:51:48] <SAL9000> heh.
L525[06:51:50] <Forecaster> I made a jump at least
L526[06:52:11] <Izaya> a little disappointed I can't have a sidewinder or similar in my fighter bay
L527[06:52:33] <Sarren Nardieu> i was gutted when they announced that
L528[06:52:45] <Skye> who here likes OpenTTD?
L529[06:52:51] <Izaya> I wanted a jump-capable ship in there :<
L530[06:52:54] * Izaya raises hand
L531[06:53:14] <Sarren Nardieu> i think i dabbled in it once
L532[06:53:31] <AmandaC> There's an idea, to pass the next 8 hours
L533[06:53:46] <Vexatos> Izaya, are you perhaps talking about spaceshipgame D:
L534[06:54:01] <Izaya> I'd happily play OpenTTD while transporting passengers
L535[06:54:05] <Sarren Nardieu> i just passed 10 hours smashing my keyboard intoa linux terminal and have nothing to show for it D:
L536[06:54:08] <Izaya> Vexatos: I'm talking about a spaceshipgame
L537[06:54:18] <Vexatos> no you are talking about *the* spaceshipgame
L538[06:54:33] <Izaya> if it's called that, then no
L539[06:54:41] <Izaya> talking about Elite: Dangerous
L540[06:55:30] ⇦ Quits: smoke_fumus (smoke_fumus!~smoke_fum@188.35.176.90) (Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/)
L541[06:55:48] <Izaya> Skye: do you have the resources for an OpenTTD server
L542[07:05:54] <Skye> Izaya, kinda?
L543[07:05:57] <Skye> only when my PC is on
L544[07:07:10] <Lizzian> how much does OpenTTD need to run anyway?
L545[07:07:26] <Izaya> I can host OpenTTD but australia so ping will be min 250ms
L546[07:08:25] <Vexatos> Izaya, so you are playing *the* spaceshipgame after all
L547[07:08:31] <Vexatos> there is no other spaceshipgame
L548[07:08:34] <Forecaster> Izaya: I don't think the game is made to handle you leaving a ship in space
L549[07:08:41] <Forecaster> that'd be cool though, but risky
L550[07:08:46] <S3> Vexatos: I play SE, that's good enough for me D
L551[07:08:48] <Skye> Izaya, problem with openttd is that I have very custom settings
L552[07:08:48] <S3> :D
L553[07:08:55] <S3> Though I wish their codebase was better
L554[07:08:59] <Forecaster> imagine coming back and finding boarders in space suits on your ship trying to break in
L555[07:09:22] <Skye> Izaya, also you need to increase the timeout
L556[07:09:27] <AmandaC> S3: SE?
L557[07:09:40] <Forecaster> having disabled the shield, and now trying to grind up the docking hatch
L558[07:09:41] <Izaya> Skye: send me the configs
L559[07:09:50] <Izaya> alternatively I can spin up a VM for you
L560[07:09:56] <S3> AmandaC: Space Engineers
L561[07:10:08] <Skye> Izaya, well not now... this evening?
L562[07:10:19] <Izaya> how many hours?
L563[07:10:55] <Izaya> it's currently 0010 here so
L564[07:12:56] <Sarren Nardieu> guys
L565[07:13:03] <Sarren Nardieu> i think i give up on lupi2
L566[07:13:28] <Izaya> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwCfX4ibqO4&t=0s
L567[07:13:28] <MichiBot> The Floppotron: Born to Be Wild | length: 1m 57s | Likes: 3,083 Dislikes: 14 Views: 31,744 | by Paweł Zadrożniak | Published On 31/12/2017
L568[07:13:36] <Skye> Izaya, uhhh 7 hours... >_<
L569[07:13:43] <Izaya> soooo 7 AM
L570[07:13:47] <Skye> Izaya, might as well try to compile this https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=73469
L571[07:13:54] <Izaya> two hours later good too?>
L572[07:14:08] <Skye> Izaya, that's bedtime
L573[07:14:09] <Izaya> gotta be up at 9AM
L574[07:14:14] <Izaya> ...ah
L575[07:14:18] <Sarren Nardieu> are there any other lua/simple os thingies for the rpi?
L576[07:14:36] <Izaya> RISC OS :D
L577[07:14:45] <Izaya> it has the least bad version of BASIC
L578[07:14:49] <Sarren Nardieu> maybe i dont want an os maybe i just need a kernel
L579[07:14:54] <AmandaC> %choose play OTTD or ORTC2 or other
L580[07:14:54] <MichiBot> AmandaC: play OTTD
L581[07:15:03] <Izaya> OpenRCT2 is nice
L582[07:15:14] <Izaya> especially when you have the RCT1 maps too
L583[07:16:24] <Sarren Nardieu> i think what i want is to boot up my pi and be presented with nothing bu i can still do everything
L584[07:16:29] <Sarren Nardieu> but*
L585[07:16:36] <Skye> FORTH
L586[07:16:45] <Izaya> which RPi?
L587[07:17:32] <Sarren Nardieu> i think its the model 3b version 2 or something
L588[07:17:41] <Izaya> https://www.riscosopen.org/content/downloads/raspberry-pi
L589[07:18:12] <Sarren Nardieu> is that the BASIC one?
L590[07:18:15] <Izaya> tfw a RPi costs as much as 2TB of storage
L591[07:18:48] <Izaya> You can run whatever you want on it
L592[07:18:58] <Izaya> but it does feature the least bad BASIC implementation - BBC Basic
L593[07:19:16] <Izaya> I think it was still called that by then.
L594[07:19:31] <Izaya> You can happily run gcc and vim and whatever else on it
L595[07:19:38] <Skye> ah the BBC
L596[07:19:39] <Sarren Nardieu> ?
L597[07:19:59] <Izaya> but it's a coop multitasking OS for ARM
L598[07:20:01] <Izaya> it's p. cool IMO
L599[07:20:18] <Izaya> originally ran on stuff like this https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3c/Omnibus_RiscPC.jpg
L600[07:20:40] <Inari> https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/01/02/intel_cpu_design_flaw/ ;-;
L601[07:20:51] <Inari> Now I want my next cpu to be amd :P
L602[07:20:59] <Izaya> You didn't already?
L603[07:21:11] <Inari> Intel CPUs are always said to be of higher quality than AMD
L604[07:21:34] <Izaya> fair, the IPC is usually higher for comparable chips
L605[07:21:34] <Sarren Nardieu> i have so many questions D:
L606[07:22:02] <Izaya> Yeah, like why was Hex wearing a David Bowie shirt for no apparent reason
L607[07:22:16] <AmandaC> Integrated Penis Chopper?
L608[07:22:49] <Izaya> Instructions Per Cycle
L609[07:23:25] <Izaya> Intel has had more time and resources to improve their x86 emulator I guess
L610[07:23:46] <Inari> I'm not really sure what I'd get in AMD cpus though. Supposeldy ryzen 1600x isn't as good as i5 k-series for single-threade stuff at least
L611[07:24:08] <Izaya> Zen 2 soon, apparently
L612[07:24:52] <g> I hear that intel chips are superior for virtualisation
L613[07:25:02] <asie> Sarren, contact magik6k re: your issue
L614[07:25:03] <Izaya> Not for long :D
L615[07:25:08] <g> haha
L616[07:25:13] <Izaya> 'sides, you can get more cores for cheaper with AMD
L617[07:25:14] <Inari> Oh well
L618[07:25:25] <g> Yeah, but don't intel chips have specific virtualisation features?
L619[07:25:31] <g> I wonder if intel will be honoring refunds :v
L620[07:25:33] <Inari> guess I'll wait and see how much the perofrmance hit is, what the hardwar ecommunity says, and what (new) CPUs will not be affected
L621[07:25:44] <g> I have an i7 7700K
L622[07:25:48] <g> hopefully I'm not hit too hard
L623[07:25:48] <g> lol
L624[07:25:51] <Inari> I have an anicent i5 :P
L625[07:25:53] <Inari> i5-2500k \o/
L626[07:25:59] <Izaya> i3 4160 \o/
L627[07:26:09] <Izaya> Gonna upgrade to a 4770 when I can though
L628[07:26:15] <Inari> I got this PC like... years ago
L629[07:26:21] <Inari> and even then it was bouhgt used
L630[07:26:22] <Inari> xD
L631[07:26:37] <Izaya> The gains between 2nd and 8th gen aren't very big tbh
L632[07:26:43] <g> I upgraded last year, the machine I had before that was almost 10 years old
L633[07:26:49] <g> although that one is still going strong
L634[07:26:58] <g> gave it to my best friend, she was delighted to have a decent computer
L635[07:27:10] <Inari> I just need a better CPU so I can play Minecraft better, and play Modded Skyrim better XD
L636[07:27:12] <Izaya> My last box has developed random hanging issues
L637[07:27:40] <g> I was slightly annoyed because a couple weeks after my new machine arrived
L638[07:27:46] <g> intel announced their i9 line
L639[07:27:55] <g> that always happens to me though
L640[07:27:56] <g> lol
L641[07:28:04] <Izaya> i9s are absurdly expensive
L642[07:28:12] <g> I wasn't sparing expenses on this one
L643[07:29:15] <Inari> So you spent $5k? :p
L644[07:33:13] * AmandaC apparently has an Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7500U CPU @ 2.70GHz
L645[07:33:19] <g> I spent around €3,500
L646[07:33:22] <Inari> 2.70?
L647[07:33:25] <Inari> how do you live with that
L648[07:33:32] <Inari> g: Wow
L649[07:33:44] <Inari> I don't think I've spend that much on anything ever
L650[07:33:50] <g> it should last me another 10 years
L651[07:33:51] <g> I hope
L652[07:34:06] <AmandaC> Inari: I don't have any problems with it really? Minecraft runs pretty good, at least.
L653[07:34:16] <Inari> Minecraft runs terrible fro me xD
L654[07:34:18] <g> that does include 3 monitors, a webcam and speakers though
L655[07:34:31] <Inari> Though I do have those 200 mods modpacks usually :P
L656[07:34:48] <g> yeah, I host an all the mods 3 server :P
L657[07:34:48] <AmandaC> ah yeah, I've been playing my own packs, <50 mods
L658[07:35:38] * Izaya manages MC on a 2520m fine
L659[07:35:49] <Inari> 2520 mods?
L660[07:35:54] <Inari> Oh "a"
L661[07:35:55] <Inari> :P
L662[07:36:19] <Forecaster> too much backlog! D:
L663[07:36:31] <Izaya> sure it threatens to catch fire if I leave it running for more than two hours
L664[07:36:33] <Izaya> but hey it runs fine
L665[07:36:35] <AmandaC> I stopped playing those 200+ mod pakcs because it bothered me how much extra stuff /duplicated functionality there was
L666[07:36:51] <Izaya> I usually framelimit to 20FPS though
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L668[07:42:36] <Inari> I find 22 fps barley playable, but annoying :P
L669[07:42:49] <Inari> AmandaC: Not in good packs! Or at least not that much
L670[07:42:55] <Inari> Plus its nice to have multiple ways to do something I find
L671[07:43:20] * Izaya still needs a mod that allows converting BWF mech power to RF/similar in 1.12
L672[07:43:48] <AmandaC> Inari: I find it annoying whenI have to have a pulverizer, a crusher, and a macerator, all because they don't all support all the dusts
L673[07:44:20] <Forecaster> ic2 has recipe configs
L674[07:44:28] <Forecaster> :>
L675[07:45:38] <Sarren Nardieu> so if i cant mount a rpi sd on my windows machine i cant mount it on my virtualbox either?
L676[07:45:38] <AmandaC> So does pretty much everything with CT!
L677[07:46:44] <Forecaster> then why complain?!
L678[07:47:03] <Forecaster> have this I guess
L679[07:47:04] <Forecaster> https://i.imgur.com/g3D6aLj.gif
L680[07:47:18] <AmandaC> @Forecaster because most of the packs don't bother to do that, last I used one
L681[07:47:20] <Sarren Nardieu> kill it! kill it wirh fire!
L682[07:47:25] <Sarren Nardieu> with*
L683[07:47:51] <Forecaster> oh, I don't play packs, I guess that's one of the reasons
L684[07:47:51] * AmandaC finally gets around to uploading this: https://gitlab.darkdna.net/amanda/pico8-docs
L685[07:47:54] <Izaya> Sarren: Why wouldn't you be able to?
L686[07:47:57] <Sarren Nardieu> ah dear! its animated!!!
L687[07:48:07] <Izaya> Just because Windows only supports prehistoric FSes doesn't mean Linux wouldn't
L688[07:48:22] <Sarren Nardieu> i guess i just cant figure out the option
L689[07:49:33] <Izaya> try just mount /dev/whatever /mnt/whatever
L690[07:49:42] <Sarren Nardieu> ok
L691[07:49:53] <AmandaC> You'll habe to pass through the SD Card reader. most of them are usb devices
L692[07:49:59] <Izaya> ^
L693[07:51:59] <Forecaster> https://imgur.com/gallery/6Nv0F
L694[07:52:07] <AmandaC> Let's see. 3h until the airport restraunt opens. 6 until the flight leaves.
L695[07:52:29] <Sarren Nardieu> looks like its coding time ?
L696[07:52:33] <S3> huh
L697[07:52:41] <S3> I think some of those came from 95 plus
L698[07:52:47] <Sarren Nardieu> amanda is stuck in the airport
L699[07:53:13] <AmandaC> Too bad I'm operating off ~4-5 h of sleep, and have no energy for coding
L700[07:53:14] <S3> AmandaC: adventure tyme!
L701[07:53:26] <Sarren Nardieu> adventure!
L702[07:53:29] <Sarren Nardieu> explore!
L703[07:53:31] <Sarren Nardieu> discover!
L704[07:53:33] <Sarren Nardieu> yay!
L705[07:54:23] <AmandaC> OR! Hear me out... I could... not
L706[07:54:27] <Vexatos> coding is like sleeping
L707[07:54:40] <AmandaC> I won't be home until like 9pm, Today is shot
L708[07:54:40] <Vexatos> you hardly move and think all the time
L709[07:55:00] <AmandaC> I won;t be home for 11h
L710[07:55:06] <Sarren Nardieu> ?
L711[07:55:26] <AmandaC> wait. maybe 10 or 12. I don't have the energy for timezones
L712[07:55:35] <AmandaC> CST -> EST
L713[07:56:11] <Sarren Nardieu> could someone link me a tutorial on what to do with this rom to make it super special awesome
L714[07:58:05] <Sarren Nardieu> do i use it like the eeprom from oc and then use another medium to supply an os?
L715[07:58:47] <Izaya> generally the idea
L716[07:58:54] <Izaya> or you could try for a whole OS in EEPROM
L717[07:58:59] <Izaya> 4k of code
L718[07:59:10] <Sarren Nardieu> i like the idea of having the two things ?
L719[07:59:52] <Sarren Nardieu> so what does the eeprom actually do? what does it open to start everything?
L720[08:00:28] <Izaya> default eeprom checks all storage devices for an init.lua file and runs it
L721[08:00:35] <Sarren Nardieu> awesome
L722[08:00:37] <Izaya> preferably the last used one
L723[08:00:41] <Sarren Nardieu> so i need to make one
L724[08:00:46] <Sarren Nardieu> an init.lua
L725[08:00:50] <Sarren Nardieu> ?
L726[08:00:56] <payonel> you do, if you want to use the default eeprom lua
L727[08:01:01] <AmandaC> You can code your own eeprom.
L728[08:01:06] <payonel> +1 ^
L729[08:01:17] <Izaya> gonna mention MultICE again, whole OS in an EEPROM
L730[08:01:20] <Izaya> multitasking and all
L731[08:01:22] <AmandaC> I have one that netboots off my base's storaage server
L732[08:01:33] <Skye> mice
L733[08:02:10] <Sarren Nardieu> i dont think i could program my own though
L734[08:02:52] <Sarren Nardieu> what hold on you said lua
L735[08:02:58] <Sarren Nardieu> ?
L736[08:03:03] <Izaya> eeproms are lua yes
L737[08:03:04] <payonel> LUA
L738[08:03:04] <MichiBot> It's Lua, not LUA. Name not an acronym.
L739[08:03:11] <g> AmandaC, kinda late, but all the mods 3 does try to integrate everything
L740[08:03:21] <g> as far as possible anyway
L741[08:03:33] <Sarren Nardieu> im playing with my rpi atm xD
L742[08:03:40] <g> so like you still have a bunch of different types of crusher but they all work with everything
L743[08:03:59] <Sarren Nardieu> i was directed to this
L744[08:03:59] <Sarren Nardieu> https://www.riscosopen.org/content/downloads/raspberry-pi
L745[08:04:14] <Sarren Nardieu> the 'rom' option looks interesting
L746[08:04:50] <Izaya> you probably want the SD card image to try it out
L747[08:05:08] <Sarren Nardieu> ok
L748[08:05:14] <payonel> anyone use railcraft with oc? what is the component name of the locomotive track?
L749[08:05:28] <AmandaC> payonel: this sounds like a question for @Forecaster
L750[08:05:56] <Forecaster> I don't remember that off the top of my head
L751[08:06:06] <Vexatos> pretty sure it's locomotive_track >_<
L752[08:06:26] <Vexatos> https://github.com/asiekierka/Computronics/blob/1.10/src/main/java/pl/asie/computronics/reference/Names.java#L36
L753[08:06:34] <Vexatos> something tells me that that is correct
L754[08:06:44] <Vexatos> payonel ^
L755[08:06:48] <payonel> ty
L756[08:07:25] <Vexatos> Flamingo_Flamingo = "flamingo" my favourite line
L757[08:08:10] <payonel> that lines needs to be commented
L758[08:08:14] <payonel> / flamingo
L759[08:08:17] <payonel> //*
L760[08:08:32] <TheFox> Quick question, can computers access the sides library?
L761[08:08:48] <Forecaster> ...
L762[08:08:53] <Forecaster> what
L763[08:08:54] <AmandaC> @TheFox it's just a bunch of constants
L764[08:09:01] <payonel> @TheFox .. um what? local sides = require("sides")
L765[08:09:12] <AmandaC> I assume they mean in not-openos
L766[08:09:35] <AmandaC> if openos, what payonel said is the way
L767[08:09:47] <payonel> else, https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/blob/master-MC1.7.10/src/main/resources/assets/opencomputers/loot/openos/lib/sides.lua
L768[08:09:48] <TheFox> Nah, I meant openOS. Wasn't sure if it was for robots only or not
L769[08:09:56] <AmandaC> ah
L770[08:10:03] <AmandaC> nah, everything is shared between everything
L771[08:10:10] <AmandaC> ( for the most part )
L772[08:10:32] <TheFox> Ok, thanks
L773[08:10:46] <Forecaster> why would only robots have access to the sides....
L774[08:10:51] <Forecaster> I can't even
L775[08:11:04] <payonel> calm down :)
L776[08:11:04] <Sarren Nardieu> 2!
L777[08:11:06] <TheFox> /mobileshrug
L778[08:11:25] <Forecaster> payonel: Never!
L779[08:11:37] <Corded> * <Forecaster> flips a table
L780[08:11:53] <Vexatos> Selene has a function called table.flip
L781[08:11:56] <Vexatos> it is very useful
L782[08:12:27] <AmandaC> all it does is print the table flip unicode guy
L783[08:12:35] <Vexatos> no it swaps keys and values
L784[08:12:52] <Vexatos> so it is actually genuinely not entirely useless
L785[08:13:16] <Forecaster> (except it's in Selene)
L786[08:13:21] <Forecaster> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxLxDEW-1Zg
L787[08:14:06] <Izaya> function table.flip(t) nt, n = {}, 1 for i = #t, 1, -1 do nt[n] = t[i] n=n+1 end return nt end
L788[08:15:50] <Forecaster> oh, that video isn't available anymore
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L791[08:28:00] <Sarren Nardieu> apparently my the cpu on my rpi is 64 bit >.<
L792[08:28:15] <Sarren Nardieu> i have to make a new compiler ?
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L796[08:50:57] <AmandaC> asie: the API McJty added seems weird to me, requiring the blockID as well as an IConnectable. I'll let you work that out, as I'm likely not mentally capable of it today
L797[08:51:50] <AmandaC> I guess it's to make it more optimised, but unless I'm mistaken, it'd mean we need to hard code every possible peripheral as a BlockID?
L798[08:52:02] <AmandaC> s/peripheral/component/
L799[08:52:02] <MichiBot> <AmandaC> I guess it's to make it more optimised, but unless I'm mistaken, it'd mean we need to hard code every possible component as a BlockID?
L800[08:56:36] <Michiyo> So, a pipe burst in the wall at Sears...
L801[08:56:45] <Michiyo> nice swimming pool in the back room, and the back lot..
L802[08:57:01] <AmandaC> Michiyo: \o/ free damaged goods!
L803[08:57:03] <Forecaster> have a nice mid-work soak!
L804[08:57:06] <Izaya> enjoy it while it's relatively clean?
L805[08:57:12] <Izaya> oh wait it's winter there
L806[08:57:14] <Izaya> :|
L807[08:57:20] <Michiyo> yeah, it's fuckin iiiiiice lol
L808[08:57:51] <Michiyo> been running for hours, seems to have happened over night.
L809[08:58:12] <Michiyo> thankfully the drain is working in the backroom, so it dumped it outside... but theres still a stack of microwaves that got drenched
L810[08:58:18] <Forecaster> psh, people bathe in ice all the time (in some places) so get to it!
L811[08:59:04] <Michiyo> nah, fuck that.
L812[08:59:22] <payonel> Michiyo is salty today
L813[08:59:28] <Forecaster> convince someone else to do it and record it
L814[08:59:35] <Forecaster> then put it on youtube
L815[09:00:02] <Forecaster> payonel: she is? not more than usual? not while working at least
L816[09:00:07] * Michiyo licks her arm
L817[09:00:13] <Michiyo> Nah, usual amount of salt.
L818[09:03:15] <Sarren Nardieu> so if a cross compiler take an hour to compile but only takes up about 60MB why aren't the hosted more readily?
L819[09:03:21] <Sarren Nardieu> takes*
L820[09:04:51] <Sarren Nardieu> they*
L821[09:05:30] <AmandaC> Debian repo scontains a arm64 cross compiler
L822[09:05:38] <Sarren Nardieu> its out of date though
L823[09:06:01] <Sarren Nardieu> the thing im trying to compile requires gcc6+
L824[09:06:05] <AmandaC> ah
L825[09:06:37] <AmandaC> wait, debian's not on 6 yet? Didn't 7 come out like, summer last year?
L826[09:06:51] <Sarren Nardieu> sounds about right xD
L827[09:07:15] <AmandaC> stable has gcc6
L828[09:07:21] <Sarren Nardieu> ?
L829[09:07:45] <AmandaC> assuming I'm reading https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=gcc right
L830[09:08:35] <Sarren Nardieu> ?
L831[09:09:37] <Izaya> welp
L832[09:09:51] <Izaya> I murdered a bunch of federal ships and now have a 15k+ bounty
L833[09:09:56] <Izaya> with a friend, ofc
L834[09:09:56] <AmandaC> RIP Izaya
L835[09:09:56] <SAL9000> ouch
L836[09:10:07] <Izaya> so I'm gonna let it expire and sit back at home
L837[09:10:29] <SAL9000> reason #42 to get the ability to carry small-pad ships in large-pad ship fighter hangars
L838[09:10:41] <Michiyo> I think they mentioned Pi... so that'd likely be raspbian which is still jessie I think
L839[09:10:44] <Izaya> disposable anti-bounter devices?
L840[09:10:49] <Izaya> bounty*
L841[09:10:51] <SAL9000> so you can switch to a suicidewinder and let the bounty go away
L842[09:10:57] <AmandaC> Michiyo: they're targeting pi with a cross-compiler I think
L843[09:11:02] <Sarren Nardieu> ^
L844[09:11:13] <Michiyo> then yes, anything recent should have 6
L845[09:11:15] <Izaya> I could also go back to Smeaton Orbital and pay it off from 300ly away
L846[09:11:19] <Sarren Nardieu> also i have a name xD
L847[09:11:31] <Michiyo> yes, and it's long and I can't tab complete it.
L848[09:11:34] <SAL9000> sounds like a lot of jumping
L849[09:11:34] <Michiyo> soooooo
L850[09:11:42] <Sarren Nardieu> just call me Sarren
L851[09:11:54] <Michiyo> Nah.
L852[09:11:58] <Sarren Nardieu> ?
L853[09:12:01] <SAL9000> @"Sarren Nardieu": us IRC peeps have to do lots of extra work (@, quotes...) to get a ping through to you.
L854[09:12:33] <Sarren Nardieu> ok
L855[09:12:38] <Michiyo> I'm also at work, so I keep my effort as low as possible as I have no idea when someone is going to walk in.
L856[09:12:48] <Sarren Nardieu> ?
L857[09:13:21] <AmandaC> Hrm. I want tags for my filesystem
L858[09:13:27] <Sarren Nardieu> Yay! it's nearly finished
L859[09:13:56] <AmandaC> I like the idea of havign ~/Code/github/ghuser/ghrepo but it'd be nice to be able to have minecraft ones and such in another list.
L860[09:14:07] <AmandaC> I guess I could do some symlink stuff
L861[09:14:35] <AmandaC> clear solution: ext attributes + custom program!
L862[09:14:50] <Sarren Nardieu> woot!
L863[09:16:37] <Izaya> Solution: BeFS on Haiku :^)
L864[09:17:35] <AmandaC> Izaya: but I want to be able to use a real OS. :P
L865[09:17:46] <Izaya> Soontm
L866[09:17:55] <Sarren Nardieu> can someone answer me a few questions?
L867[09:18:01] <AmandaC> %choose try and art or meh
L868[09:18:01] <MichiBot> AmandaC: try and art
L869[09:18:18] <Izaya> Beta 1 is soon and I intend to switch to it on my laptop full-time
L870[09:19:29] <Sarren Nardieu> I guess the problem is I don't really know what my questions are xD
L871[09:19:46] <Sarren Nardieu> there's just a bunch of ideas and thoughts buzzing about my head
L872[09:21:03] <Inari> Then work them out until you have a question ;D
L873[09:21:07] <Inari> We're not running away
L874[09:21:17] <Sarren Nardieu> xD
L875[09:21:22] * payonel runs away
L876[09:21:27] <Sarren Nardieu> ?
L877[09:21:35] <Sarren Nardieu> ?
L878[09:22:01] <Sarren Nardieu> http://tinyurl.com/y782rzav
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L880[09:22:22] <Sarren Nardieu> Yay!!
L881[09:22:27] <Sarren Nardieu> you came back ?
L882[09:24:26] <Sarren Nardieu> Message contained 4 or more newlines and was pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/ulujoxomaj
L883[09:24:41] <Sarren Nardieu> or is there some overlap
L884[09:25:06] <Inari> Need for what?
L885[09:25:15] <Sarren Nardieu> for a computer (my RPi)
L886[09:25:27] <Inari> Ah I thought you were talking about OC
L887[09:25:32] <Sarren Nardieu> oh lol
L888[09:26:58] <S3> OK. I don't care anymore, electron is really handy
L889[09:27:27] <Inari> S3: :D
L890[09:27:31] <Izaya> :|
L891[09:27:38] <Inari> Welcome to the dark side
L892[09:27:47] <Inari> We waste so much memory, we make memory cookies!
L893[09:27:47] <S3> rofl
L894[09:27:50] <Izaya> I'll blame you next time Chrome takes up all the resources on my machine, then
L895[09:28:06] <S3> Chrome already does
L896[09:29:04] <S3> The next time somebody complains about wasted resources I'm going to tell them to compare my IRC client on a TRS-80 compared to one on Windows
L897[09:29:05] <S3> XD
L898[09:29:54] <Skye> @Lizzian, Izaya: so... want to play OpenTTD with this patchpack in a few hours? https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=73469 It'll involve compiling for Linux sadly, but it's fun because infrastructure sharing. :P
L899[09:30:36] <Sarren Nardieu> i think my goal is to have an sd card that i can plug in which will load "stuff" from a usb stick, "stuff" being the things like drivers and the command line tools
L900[09:30:36] <Sarren Nardieu> the idea behind having the "stuff" on the ntfs usb stick is that it would make it easier to chop and change things while the "difficult" code like drivers and hardware interfacing could be left to their own devices on the sd card
L901[09:30:56] <Izaya> I'll look into it. I really should sleep but I'll spin up a VM if you want
L902[09:31:31] <Lizzian> I could also spin up a VM, i don't think openTTD uses much for the server and i have at least 6 or more GB to give to a VM
L903[09:32:14] <Lizzian> (i say 6 or more because my windows games server vm is off as noone played on the SE server it was running so it's ram allocation is available)
L904[09:33:14] <Izaya> I probably have along the lines of 12 available because the ARK server isn't running
L905[09:33:44] <Skye> ...
L906[09:33:54] <Skye> 1GB is overkill for OTTD
L907[09:34:04] <Izaya> Yup :D
L908[09:34:10] <Lizzian> also the actual ram usage of my dedi right now is 34GB/63GB, so i have about half the resources left ?
L909[09:34:12] <Skye> the main problem is compiling
L910[09:34:18] <Lizzian> that's not an issue
L911[09:34:22] <Sarren Nardieu> so i guess i just need to find a "thing" that i can flash to an sd card that will take care of all the drivers and interfacing and also load up files from an external drive
L912[09:34:29] <AmandaC> asie: I drew a few stupid-simple icons for the OC stuff I added to YNot, not sure how to use the IndicatorIcon for the Component/Network icons though.
L913[09:34:32] <Izaya> ... can you run OpenTTD server on DOS? :D
L914[09:34:45] <Skye> Izaya, maybe
L915[09:35:16] <Izaya> I don't think I still have the setup for networked DOS with Windows I'm afraid
L916[09:35:27] <Lizzian> hell, i could even just put the OpenTTD server on my normal linux games vm because that's sitting at 5GB/16GB
L917[09:36:00] <Lizzian> and has a 0.07 load average at the moment even though it's running 2 modded mc servers
L918[09:36:03] <Skye> lol
L919[09:36:09] <Skye> tfw no server
L920[09:36:20] <Izaya> Idle servers are pretty light
L921[09:36:25] <Izaya> Skye: build one :D
L922[09:36:33] <Izaya> ... I could give you a dedi, actually
L923[09:36:39] <Skye> uhhh
L924[09:36:47] <Skye> I am not allowed to run computers 24/7
L925[09:36:49] <Izaya> As long as you don't mind an Atom N270 and 2GB of RAM
L926[09:36:49] <Lizzian> i could give you a VPS ?
L927[09:36:55] <Skye> and AUS internet leaves something to be desired
L928[09:37:49] <Izaya> Not for long!
L929[09:37:55] <Lizzian> hah, my dns server vm is using 215MB of ram
L930[09:37:57] <Izaya> ... who am I kidding 100/50 is still bad
L931[09:37:59] <S3> We need to build a new internet
L932[09:38:11] <Izaya> S3: with blackjack
L933[09:38:13] <Lizzian> with blackjack and hookers?
L934[09:38:15] <Izaya> And y'know
L935[09:38:16] <S3> heh
L936[09:38:29] <Skye> Izaya, 100/50 is better than 100/3
L937[09:38:32] <Skye> well
L938[09:38:33] <Skye> 100/6
L939[09:38:38] <Skye> but technically it's 100/3
L940[09:38:45] <Corded> * <Lizzian> has 200/12
L941[09:38:48] <Skye> but we're given 3 extra up because our line is good
L942[09:38:50] <Izaya> Skye: I'm expecting 10/5 from 100/50
L943[09:38:56] <Skye> @Lizzian, Virgin Media?
L944[09:39:05] <Lizzian> yep
L945[09:39:22] <Lizzian> we did have 100/6 but my dad managed to get them to double it just before christmas
L946[09:39:41] <Skye> well ours is a free upgrade from 10/1
L947[09:39:44] <Izaya> I hate the insanity of asymmetric speeds
L948[09:40:09] <Skye> well
L949[09:40:19] <Lizzian> there's an ISP that do Gigabit synchronous internet in the UK, but they're probably expensive and you have to be in an area where they have enough demand for it
L950[09:40:26] <Skye> it makes sense if you think about limited bandwidth and how people tended to do modem stuff
L951[09:40:41] <Skye> @Lizzian, I know someone who has that.
L952[09:40:50] <Izaya> I mean it's fine for most people tbh
L953[09:40:53] <AmandaC> I'm curious if the prevelence of last-mile nodes is a reason for it
L954[09:41:03] <AmandaC> s/last-mile /last-mile CDN/
L955[09:41:03] <MichiBot> <AmandaC> I'm curious if the prevelence of last-mile CDNnodes is a reason for it
L956[09:41:12] <Skye> tbh VDSL was designed to be syncronus
L957[09:41:14] <Izaya> People upload stuff a lot less than download stuff
L958[09:41:16] <Skye> but there's an async mode
L959[09:41:22] <Lizzian> yeah, for the average consumer, the 10:1-esk ratio of speeds is fine
L960[09:41:45] <Skye> I kinda want to make an ISP
L961[09:41:55] <Skye> get a massive antenna on my roof
L962[09:42:14] <Lizzian> maybe you will one day, who knows
L963[09:42:32] <Izaya> NBN comes in 2:1 mostly which is weird
L964[09:42:41] <Izaya> 100/50, 50/25, 25/12
L965[09:43:03] <Izaya> I'm not arguing with a theoretical 50Mbps up but it's unusual
L966[09:44:22] <Lizzian> which is kinda meh
L967[09:44:28] <Lizzian> fuck you discord
L968[09:44:33] <Lizzian> also going back to servers, i want to do a complete reboot of my stuff at some point. let the dedi do kernel updates and such, annoyingly i don't have the money to have another box as a failover so i can't keep everything else up whilst i reboot one node
L969[09:45:05] <Lizzian> (was sent before the kinda meh)
L970[09:45:29] <Lizzian> -_-
L971[09:45:41] <Izaya> I reinstalled Lain recently
L972[09:45:44] <Izaya> We openbsd now
L973[09:45:54] <Sarren Nardieu> the chronology police are gonna have one helluva time
L974[09:45:56] <Lizzian> cool
L975[09:46:34] <Lizzian> also, something that annoys me is the "snap" shit that ubuntu installs by default
L976[09:46:35] <Sarren Nardieu> so is there a name for this "thing" i am looking for or is it just fantasy
L977[09:46:46] <Lizzian> why does a fucking server need that?
L978[09:47:20] <Lizzian> there probably is a name
L979[09:47:27] <Sarren Nardieu> ?
L980[09:47:46] <Izaya> Probably along the lines of "GRUB" but I dunno if there's GRUB for ARM
L981[09:48:14] <Sarren Nardieu> grub is a bootloader right?
L982[09:48:22] <Lizzian> yes
L983[09:48:37] <Sarren Nardieu> that wouldnt come with drivers and things though would it?
L984[09:48:58] <Izaya> It has to interface with the hardware, no?
L985[09:49:18] <Lizzian> well, for the ARM equivelant, probably but it would also be the 'BIOS' as RPis don't have one by default
L986[09:49:36] <Lizzian> the higher-level drivers will most likely be in the kernel
L987[09:49:49] <Sarren Nardieu> so i need to put a kernel on the sd as well?
L988[09:50:17] <Sarren Nardieu> or would the kernel go on the usb stick
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L990[09:52:02] <Lizzian> i think so, IIRC there is a way to have a minimal 'boot' image that can load the kernel from elsewhere, you'd need to do some googling though
L991[09:52:30] <Lizzian> Skye, Izaya, i'll look into setting up the OpenTTD stuff in about ~45 minutes or so as that's when i get home
L992[09:52:45] <Skye> I see
L993[09:53:15] <Lizzian> yay (kinda) for early shift week
L994[09:55:00] <Izaya> can you guys agree with like
L995[09:55:06] <Izaya> not having stuff become unavailable over time
L996[09:55:12] <Izaya> there's a setting for it
L997[09:55:26] <Izaya> so you can still use steam engines in 9999999AD
L998[09:55:36] <Izaya> there's also a setting to disable inflation
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L1000[09:56:49] <Inari> Don't see why it should become unavailable
L1001[09:57:11] <Izaya> can you buy a new steam engine in 2017?
L1002[09:57:54] <Inari> Probably?
L1003[09:57:58] <Skye> Izaya, oh yeah I can give you a map with everything tuned for Skye fun
L1004[09:57:59] <Inari> And if not, I can buy a platn to make them
L1005[09:57:59] <Inari> :P
L1006[09:58:20] <Inari> Izaya: They have gone mostly because noone is around to buy them, thus it isn't viable to produce htem
L1007[09:58:23] <Inari> If there are people who buy them
L1008[09:58:27] <Inari> They'd be produced \o/
L1009[09:58:57] <Skye> there is a modern steam engine
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L1011[09:59:01] <Skye> it's called the Tornado
L1012[09:59:28] <Lizzian> izaya, if you let me know what i need to change i can set that
L1013[09:59:48] <Lizzian> i have played a fair bit of factorio, not so much of openttd
L1014[09:59:59] <Izaya> I'll check in a bit
L1015[10:00:12] <AmandaC> yup, uv values continue to be confusing fo rme
L1016[10:00:24] <Michiyo> UV is evil.
L1017[10:00:52] <Corded> * <Lizzian> wants a UV light
L1018[10:01:01] <Lizzian> for no other reason than just to have one
L1019[10:01:10] <Izaya> you can use them to erase EPROMS
L1020[10:01:11] <Skye> @Lizzyian, give me RCON access. :P
L1021[10:01:34] <Lizzian> will do when i set it up
L1022[10:01:43] <Michiyo> I hate texturing because of uvs..
L1023[10:01:52] <Izaya> [patches]
L1024[10:01:54] <Izaya> noinflation = true
L1025[10:02:23] <Izaya> [vehicle]
L1026[10:02:30] <Izaya> never_expire_vehicles = true
L1027[10:03:20] <AmandaC> aand I see why. It seems YNot provides it's own icons for Insert/extract then doesn't use tem
L1028[10:05:08] <AmandaC> meh, I'm out of energy for it
L1029[10:06:03] <Lizzian> Skye/Izaya, are either of you in my irc channels?
L1030[10:06:32] <Skye> @Lizzian, yep!
L1031[10:06:58] <Lizzian> cool, one of them links to my discord. I think it was the EnderNet one
L1032[10:07:15] <Lizzian> though there's an invite link in the other's topic
L1033[10:07:15] <Skye> oh uh
L1034[10:07:27] <Lizzian> i can't remember if i made the channel +s
L1035[10:08:45] <Michiyo> endernet is +t
L1036[10:09:13] <Lizzian> ah, kewl. Izaya if you want to join #EnderNet since you don't use discord ?
L1037[10:17:16] <Inari> https://www.fool.com/investing/2017/12/19/intels-ceo-just-sold-a-lot-of-stock.aspx
L1038[10:17:25] <Inari> wonder if that was kpti related
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L1041[10:41:56] <AmandaC> %weather Eau Claire, WI
L1042[10:41:57] <MichiBot> No data returned
L1043[10:42:00] <AmandaC> meh
L1044[10:42:59] <AmandaC> %choose stay on computer or meh
L1045[10:42:59] <MichiBot> AmandaC: stay on computer
L1046[10:43:04] <AmandaC> hrm. I disagree
L1047[10:53:10] <Michiyo> wtf weather...
L1048[11:01:09] <Izaya> Always good to have two random pirates gang up on you and you obliterate both of them in under 30 seconds.
L1049[11:09:25] <Inari> What are you playing again :P
L1050[11:09:54] <Inari> Ah ,right, E:D probably
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L1052[11:23:34] <AmandaC> D:
L1053[11:27:02] <Sarren Nardieu> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qW5UrEgw4pw
L1054[11:27:03] <MichiBot> Everything I Touch Dies | length: 11s | Likes: 430 Dislikes: 6 Views: 60,429 | by Bijou | Published On 1/9/2012
L1055[11:27:07] <Sarren Nardieu> ?
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L1057[11:27:59] <Sarren Nardieu> why cant i get anything to work
L1058[11:28:16] <Sarren Nardieu> i must be beyond the realms of idiocy at this stage
L1059[11:30:24] <Sarren Nardieu> can someone just throw me a bone ?
L1060[11:30:50] <Izaya> probably a femur
L1061[11:33:47] <AmandaC> Sarren, you know this is a channel for a Minecraft mod, not raspberry pis, right?
L1062[11:59:36] <payonel> AmandaC: some young woman died in the freezing cold in WI
L1063[11:59:39] <payonel> i'm glad it wasn't you
L1064[12:00:16] <AmandaC> payonel: or maybe it was, and I decided to haunt irc
L1065[12:00:41] <payonel> such a good use of time, miss ghost
L1066[12:00:50] <Izaya> a ghost would hardly be unusual for here
L1067[12:02:10] <Kodos> we talk about all sorts of shit here, including pis, and pies
L1068[12:02:55] <payonel> Kodos: but when we get tired of a particular off topic -- there's nothing wrong complaining about it :)
L1069[12:03:14] <Kodos> Indeed, nothing wrong with complaining about it
L1070[12:03:27] <AmandaC> Kodos: sure, but there's a difference between discussing it and expecting help with it over a long period of time
L1071[12:03:30] <Kodos> Nothing wrong with complaining about not getting your pi working too :3
L1072[12:03:47] <Kodos> AmandaC, maybe, but lots of folks here know about Pis, and is probably a good place to ask, even if it is off topic
L1073[12:04:00] <Kodos> I was here last night at 4 am about my Linux install
L1074[12:04:05] <Kodos> Because I don't know what I'm doing
L1075[12:04:32] <AmandaC> Shrug
L1076[12:05:12] <AmandaC> I'm just cranky probably. Been up for 11 and a half hours and I'm still like 11 hours from being home
L1077[12:05:32] <payonel> still flying back?
L1078[12:05:34] <Kodos> FWIW you're not coming off as cranky.
L1079[12:05:55] <payonel> AmandaC: i'm with ya, btw :)
L1080[12:05:55] <AmandaC> payonel: we missed our original flight
L1081[12:06:00] <payonel> sad :(
L1082[12:07:05] <payonel> AmandaC: so are you at an airport?
L1083[12:07:13] <AmandaC> Yup
L1084[12:07:40] <AmandaC> The fight we were moved to is scheduled to leave in ~2h
L1085[12:07:51] <payonel> what else are you working on ?
L1086[12:07:56] <payonel> besides haunting us
L1087[12:07:57] <payonel> :)
L1088[12:08:26] <AmandaC> Not much. Didn't get much sleep so I'm pretty much running in fumes when it comes to motivation
L1089[12:09:29] <S3> Sleep is important
L1090[12:09:31] <S3> Go get some sleep
L1091[12:09:49] <S3> Although, I can't sleep on airplanes
L1092[12:09:54] <S3> or in cars
L1093[12:10:16] <S3> My father always told me when I was a baby I refused to sleep in the car on long trips too
L1094[12:12:34] <AmandaC> I can't sleep sitting up, and I'm to awake more anyway
L1095[12:12:55] <AmandaC> Awake now*
L1096[12:15:35] <S3> heh
L1097[12:16:04] <S3> I hope you didn't blow all your money away just for a few days of travel
L1098[12:17:40] <AmandaC> Came here for my cousin's kids baptism. Whole family ended up sick
L1099[12:18:13] <Izaya> I did not account for this. My scripts won't work on OpenBSD because there's no lua, only lua{5.1,5.2,5.3}
L1100[12:18:34] <Skye> that's kinda good though?
L1101[12:18:57] <Izaya> I mean it's nonspecific and some distros don't have 5.3 yet
L1102[12:19:05] <Izaya> The scripts work on all of them
L1103[12:30:14] <AmandaC> Izaya: ln -s to the rescue!
L1104[12:30:22] <Izaya> Yup x_x
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L1107[12:33:53] <AmandaC> Aaaand United texted us, warning about possible delays / cancelations because of the weather
L1108[12:34:55] <AmandaC> (weather in philly)
L1109[12:35:08] <AmandaC> Here's hoping we don't end up stranded in Chicago.
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L1113[12:57:06] <vifino> Good luck, AmandaC.
L1114[13:01:46] <AmandaC> thank, vifino
L1115[13:02:43] <AmandaC> %choose reboot into new kernel or don't risk angering the linux gods any more than they already are
L1116[13:02:43] <MichiBot> AmandaC: don't risk angering the linux gods any more than they already are
L1117[13:03:30] <AmandaC> I guess I'll find out in chicago just how angry the linux gods are.
L1118[13:03:49] <AmandaC> ( OHA doesn't have free wifi, so I'll BT Teather to my phone )
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L1120[13:13:21] <CompanionCube> AmandaC: why would the linux gods be angry
L1121[13:13:49] <AmandaC> CompanionCube: my bluetooth mouse hasn't worked since getting to WI, and I'm not sure if it's the mouse dead, some environmental thing, or the linux bluetooth gods being angry.
L1122[13:15:58] <S3> AmandaC: It's obviously that bluetooth hasn't been invented yet in WI
L1123[13:16:10] <AmandaC> S3: ah, of course.
L1124[13:24:52] <S3> %choose go home or stay at work
L1125[13:24:52] <MichiBot> S3: stay at work
L1126[13:24:54] <S3> :(
L1127[13:25:06] <Izaya> s/stay at work/go home/
L1128[13:25:06] <MichiBot> <S3> go home
L1129[13:25:11] <S3> rofl
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L1132[13:27:26] <ben_mkiv> AmandaC, or its just the batteries :P
L1133[13:28:11] <AmandaC> ben_mkiv: I recharged the mouse fully, same issue
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L1135[13:36:51] <S3> attach serial mouse!
L1136[13:37:55] <Izaya> ._.
L1137[13:38:13] <Izaya> TV computer can't deal with 1080p HEVC
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L1144[13:39:18] <S3> wat
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L1146[13:39:37] <S3> Time for 1080i!
L1147[13:40:00] <Izaya> I was thinking more like 720p
L1148[13:40:12] <payonel> %tell inari https://imgur.com/a/lFCjV
L1149[13:40:13] <MichiBot> payonel: inari will be notified of this message when next seen.
L1150[13:40:13] <S3> what you displayin on it
L1151[13:40:23] <S3> Oh seen that
L1152[13:40:24] <S3> lol
L1153[13:40:37] <Izaya> A 1024x768 TV that is physically 16:9
L1154[13:41:05] <S3> ...
L1155[13:41:13] <S3> That's okay
L1156[13:41:20] <Izaya> No it isn't.
L1157[13:41:27] <S3> everyone will just look like they need to go on a diet
L1158[13:42:08] <Izaya> A 40" 16:9 TV is expensive though
L1159[13:42:34] <S3> I got a 42" 16:9 for less than $250 bucks or so
L1160[13:42:40] <S3> 1080p
L1161[13:43:00] <S3> dude right now at walmart you can get a 60" 4K TV for 500 bucks
L1162[13:43:08] <S3> least there was one a few weeks ago
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L1164[13:43:13] <Izaya> Both of those are expensive.
L1165[13:43:20] <S3> 500 USD is nothing
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L1167[13:43:37] <Izaya> If you're a NEET it is
L1168[13:43:48] <Izaya> I have $40 to my name at present
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L1170[13:43:54] <S3> I may never have any money to spare, but when your bills are sometimes $1000
L1171[13:43:59] <S3> $500 tv doesn't sound so bad
L1172[13:44:10] <S3> I have a little less than that heh
L1173[13:44:27] <S3> but payday is friday
L1174[13:44:27] <S3> :D
L1175[13:44:50] <Izaya> Payday is in like, 2 months, maybe.
L1176[13:45:00] <S3> dude you gotta get a job man
L1177[13:45:07] <S3> don't starve on us
L1178[13:45:22] <Izaya> That's my point about 2 months, maybe
L1179[13:45:31] <S3> ic
L1180[13:45:45] <Izaya> All the computer shops around here shut down over Christmas
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L1182[13:46:40] <Izaya> "This ship has to be better than Red Dwarf - that tin can is slower than the speed of dark"
L1183[13:47:31] <payonel> %tell inari https://imgur.com/a/3leUE
L1184[13:47:31] <MichiBot> payonel: inari will be notified of this message when next seen.
L1185[13:47:32] <S3> I was just reminded
L1186[13:47:36] <payonel> @forecaster https://imgur.com/a/3leUE
L1187[13:47:37] <S3> Trump warns of fire and furry!
L1188[13:47:53] <S3> https://www.boston.com/news/media/2017/08/10/maine-newspaper-mortified-by-front-page-typo-of-trumps-north-korea-threat
L1189[13:48:05] <S3> old news but somebody just reminded me here at work
L1190[13:48:07] <payonel> hahaha
L1191[13:48:10] <payonel> S3: NICE
L1192[13:49:53] <S3> test
L1193[13:49:57] <S3> a long time ago a local newspaper around here had PUBIC GATHERING AT TOWN HALL on their front page
L1194[13:50:11] <S3> This was before the Internet
L1195[13:56:27] <AmandaC> Onto the plane to Chicago
L1196[13:56:29] <TheFox> S3: Lmao! As far as the gathering at the townhall, we all know politicians have a private life.
L1197[14:00:36] <S3> lol
L1198[14:01:14] <AmandaC> 40m flight
L1199[14:01:54] <S3> AmandaC: that is REALLY nice.
L1200[14:02:17] <S3> except that I bet it takes longer to board, disembark, and get off than it does to ride XD
L1201[14:02:33] <AmandaC> It's a CRJ200
L1202[14:02:37] <AmandaC> So not really
L1203[14:02:48] <AmandaC> And it's not even fully booked
L1204[14:03:00] <S3> Never heard of them
L1205[14:03:08] <S3> I think I've only been in Boeings for commercial
L1206[14:03:14] <S3> like 737s
L1207[14:03:40] <AmandaC> We're flying out of bumfuck-nowhere wi, I doubt the airport could even handle a boeing
L1208[14:05:33] <S3> Ah
L1209[14:05:45] <S3> Bangor International is one of the longest airports in the US
L1210[14:05:58] <S3> it was like 3rd or so in rank for the space shuttle or something, I forget
L1211[14:06:03] <S3> for landing
L1212[14:06:08] <S3> (Though that never happened)
L1213[14:06:18] <S3> it's because it was a base for taking off B-52s
L1214[14:06:27] <AmandaC> We're ultimately flying into PHL around 21.30
L1215[14:06:31] <S3> and they require a minimum of 2 miles to take off or so (the old ones)
L1216[14:07:00] <AmandaC> (that is, arriving in PHL)
L1217[14:07:02] <S3> Either way, the CRJ is a neat little jet
L1218[14:07:14] <S3> I don't really like jets, I prefer props, but
L1219[14:08:04] <AmandaC> We'll be packed in like sardines for OHA -> PHL for sure
L1220[14:08:43] <AmandaC> In an airbus probably
L1221[14:09:26] <S3> https://i.pinimg.com/736x/29/ba/f0/29baf0452b1eb98ec3dfb7cd41f57c3c--b-bomber-louisiana.jpg
L1222[14:09:56] <AmandaC> G2g, time to get ready to depart
L1223[14:13:56] <S3> HOLY CRAP
L1224[14:14:02] <S3> giant cyclone snow storm coming from FL
L1225[14:14:05] <S3> to ME
L1226[14:14:23] <S3> Oh nvm
L1227[14:14:25] <S3> it's not big deal
L1228[14:14:28] <S3> 8-14 inches of snow
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L1230[14:31:21] <Inari> .
L1231[14:31:36] <Inari> payonel: Haha :D
L1232[14:31:41] <payonel> :)
L1233[14:53:09] <payonel> i've pissed off my server :(
L1234[15:10:49] <AmandaC> Inari: you left without permission again!
L1235[15:11:02] <AmandaC> Also hi, I'm in Chicago now
L1236[15:11:04] <Inari> :p
L1237[15:11:45] <AmandaC> S3: that storm is what might cause me to not get home today, if they cancel the flight
L1238[15:13:22] <Inari> AmandaC: Had to update windows
L1239[15:13:28] <AmandaC> Or, well, delay it even, considering we're expecting to be back to our house around 23.00
L1240[15:14:00] <AmandaC> Inari: excuses excuses! :P
L1241[15:19:23] <Inari> AmandaC: It was important fro Skyrim
L1242[15:50:46] <AmandaC> Inari: why does Skyrim need updated windows? O.o
L1243[15:54:00] <Inari> Something about using RAM as VRAM or something, and since win 8 you cuoldn't do that? Or it was limite dto 4gb? Or something. In DirectX 9 anyway. But the Fall creator's update fixed it in win 10
L1244[15:58:25] <AmandaC> I see
L1245[16:07:05] <chernobyl> People on my server made so many computers with so much RAM that my server's memory usage is over 12GB idle.
L1246[16:07:17] <chernobyl> i kekked
L1247[16:07:40] <chernobyl> One person had like 40 racks full of maxxed t3 servers, all set to run as 1 computer
L1248[16:07:47] <chernobyl> One person had like 40 racks full of maxed t3 servers, all set to run as 1 computer [Edited]
L1249[16:08:25] <chernobyl> they wrote some kind of BIOS that replaces all the machine-provided methods, and made it distribute load
L1250[16:08:51] <Inari> Sounds pointless
L1251[16:09:00] <MGR> ^
L1252[16:09:06] <Inari> The only thing you can really do wiht more PCs is more component calls per tick
L1253[16:09:32] <MGR> But only kinda
L1254[16:09:51] <MGR> There's overhead from linking everything together, and you can't exactly split everything up
L1255[16:10:27] <Inari> Yeah, it's a bit limited in actual usage
L1256[16:11:45] <MGR> At that point, you just use a real computer
L1257[16:27:27] <payonel> yeah, but it sounds fantastic
L1258[16:30:47] <MGR> Besides the RAM issue?
L1259[16:46:11] <AmandaC> Well, that
L1260[16:46:35] <AmandaC> 'll happen reagardless if you have 40 x 4 x 4 tier 3.5 ram
L1261[16:47:31] * AmandaC wanders back off to the ether
L1262[16:48:02] <Forecaster> %s/et/net/
L1263[16:48:12] <Forecaster> aw
L1264[16:48:28] <Forecaster> s/et/net/
L1265[16:48:32] <Forecaster> :I
L1266[16:59:03] <Vexatos> Forecaster, the most evil thing you have ever done in your life was tear up a virtual teddy bear
L1267[16:59:46] <Forecaster> when did I do that?
L1268[17:00:03] <Vexatos> in the episode you just uploaded D:
L1269[17:00:05] <Forecaster> also wut
L1270[17:00:09] <Forecaster> oh
L1271[17:04:20] <Vexatos> heh
L1272[17:04:29] <Vexatos> of all things in this game, this must be the worst D:
L1273[17:04:57] <Forecaster> yeah, who cares about all these dead agents :P
L1274[17:05:35] <Vexatos> who cares about killing people, don't kill their plushies D:
L1275[17:12:40] <vifino> omg you killed a plushie?!
L1276[17:12:51] <vifino> DIE @FORECASTER DIE
L1277[17:13:08] <Izaya> \:D/ my CPU cooler arrived!
L1278[17:13:18] <Izaya> I got bright green fans!
L1279[17:13:20] <vifino> happy cpu-cooling.
L1280[17:13:23] <Forecaster> I didn't end up using it actually
L1281[17:13:38] * CompanionCube murderss Forecaster
L1282[17:15:37] <Vexatos> yea
L1283[17:15:40] <Vexatos> but he did plan to"
L1284[17:16:51] <Forecaster> well yeah
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L1286[17:49:40] <AngelOfDeath> are are future plans for AE 2 intergration with OC
L1287[17:49:52] <payonel> @angelofdeath yes
L1288[17:50:16] <AngelOfDeath> ive just been seeing some talk of it fazing out
L1289[17:50:26] <payonel> by whom or where?
L1290[17:51:19] <AngelOfDeath> ive just been skimming github issuse tracking ive seen metions of it not being supported anymore
L1291[17:51:55] <payonel> i dont believe i've said on any github issue that i'm not going to support ae2 anymore
L1292[17:52:18] <payonel> if you find any wording that sounds like that, let me know, i'd be glad to clarify
L1293[17:53:36] <AngelOfDeath> mabey others have im not trying to start an argument or anything im jsut using it in my OC railcraft project and was unsure if it was still being supported or if i should trying a new route for my ideas
L1294[17:55:35] <payonel> there are known issues. some api into ae that don't quite work on later mc versions
L1295[17:55:48] <payonel> but i've not closed any bugs in that regard as won't fid
L1296[17:55:51] <payonel> fix*
L1297[17:56:45] <payonel> mod interop takes 2nd place to oc issues. unfortunately that delays fixing ae2 bugs
L1298[17:57:33] <payonel> i do plan to support ae2 better. mainly because i like ae2 and i like dan200, and i think oc should
L1299[18:01:23] <payonel> anyways, i didn't think we were arguing. i was just shocked you got the impression support was being fazed out or ending
L1300[18:01:58] <MGR> ?
L1301[18:04:19] <Inari> %give MichiBot a ????? ?? ????? ??? ??????????????
L1302[18:04:19] * MichiBot accepts the ????? ?? ????? ??? ?????????????? and adds it to her inventory
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L1304[18:06:12] <payonel> oh merging up from 1.7.10 to 1.12 is such "fun"
L1305[18:06:52] <payonel> 1.10: oh my new block now needs all these jsons to define its textures in these different states and i need to change how i render it
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L1307[18:07:12] <payonel> 1.11: oh ok...again?
L1308[18:07:25] <payonel> anywho, laters
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L1311[18:16:30] <AmandaC> %tell Inari rude to run off when I'm being boarded into the sardine can. D:
L1312[18:16:30] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Inari will be notified of this message when next seen.
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L1314[18:18:27] <AmandaC> Forecaster: sorry, I've got to unsub. Targeting plushies is unforgivable
L1315[18:19:44] <S3> AmandaC: ouch
L1316[18:20:01] <Izaya> Muahahaha, got a comment on my ship name
L1317[18:20:18] <S3> AmandaC: seems to mostly be in NC now maybe
L1318[18:20:24] <AmandaC> Izaya: I named my ship Bob C Bob 2
L1319[18:20:26] <S3> ship name?
L1320[18:20:33] <Izaya> Thargoids Want Hugs
L1321[18:20:37] <S3> ....
L1322[18:20:41] <AmandaC> s/C/and/
L1323[18:21:00] <AmandaC> And plural ship
L1324[18:21:21] <AmandaC> I'm very tired
L1325[18:21:44] <S3> sleep all day tomorrow!
L1326[18:21:45] <AmandaC> S3: NC?
L1327[18:21:49] <S3> north carolina
L1328[18:22:04] <AmandaC> Oh, the storm
L1329[18:22:10] <AmandaC> I was confused
L1330[18:23:05] <AmandaC> And well, they boarded us all and the plane sounds like they're locking the luggage area, so I assume ATC is fine with us going for now
L1331[18:27:37] <AmandaC> Going to have to go soon, ttfn nerds
L1332[18:28:29] <AmandaC> Safety presentation time
L1333[18:28:49] <AmandaC> Be back in ~2h
L1334[18:35:00] <AngelOfDeath> @payonel thanks for the clarifaction
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L1338[19:02:18] <DypoX> Hi! Do I need to create a new world when installing oc?
L1339[19:03:34] <MGR> Nope
L1340[19:03:47] <MGR> The loot disks just won't spawn in already generated areas
L1341[19:04:16] <DypoX> Thanks!
L1342[19:07:09] <MGR> No problem
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L1356[19:15:27] <MGR> Mmmm?
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L1370[19:43:46] <S3> MGR: That seems to be a small limitation of these random gen voxel things
L1371[19:43:52] <S3> what you got is what you get"
L1372[19:44:10] <S3> makes me wonder if there could be a way to fix that
L1373[19:44:16] <S3> In theory
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L1375[19:44:49] <MGR> What?
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L1379[19:50:50] <S3> What you got is what you get
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L1381[19:54:46] <MGR> Uh, ok
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L1385[20:21:48] <iNick> Now that I have a understanding of functional EEPROMs, I almost feel like making a Drool. Anyone wanna guess what that might be before I tell?
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L1387[20:23:04] <DypoX> Can I swap a EEPROM inside a robot?
L1388[20:23:26] <iNick> Dypo: been asking that a while. doesn't seem like it
L1389[20:23:39] <iNick> DypoX: I had to end up writing an OTA flash EEPROM
L1390[20:23:48] <iNick> and probably keep enough code to be able to swap 'em
L1391[20:24:24] <DypoX> It works! Just put a eeprom and a robot inside a crafting table.
L1392[20:24:28] <DypoX> :P
L1393[20:24:37] <iNick> it doesn't for me.
L1394[20:24:48] <iNick> well, i've been using my personal 2x2 crafting
L1395[20:26:16] <DypoX> Okee
L1396[20:26:18] <iNick> vanilla crafting table no, AE2 crafting term, no.. personal 2x2 no
L1397[20:26:25] <DypoX> :(
L1398[20:26:25] <iNick> dunno how you're doing it
L1399[20:27:53] <Mimiru> what mc version are you two on?
L1400[20:32:53] <iNick> 1.12.2
L1401[20:33:10] <iNick> and i'm trying to swap eeprom with a drone that's already built, not a robot
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L1403[20:33:47] <Mimiru> yeah 1.12 is... special
L1404[20:34:25] <DypoX> I'm on 1.12.2 too
L1405[20:35:41] <iNick> eh, I don't even know how long 12's been out.. i haven't binged on MC since 1.7 days
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L1412[21:34:45] <payonel> iNick: what oc version are you using?
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L1414[21:49:53] <AmandaC> %lua 22 - 6
L1415[21:49:53] <MichiBot> 16
L1416[21:49:57] <AmandaC> Yup
L1417[21:50:18] <AmandaC> 16 hours of travel to get from WI to PA
L1418[21:50:29] <AmandaC> (including waiting at airports)
L1419[21:51:09] <AmandaC> Finally on the way back to the house now, but Jesus Christ, never again please
L1420[22:01:48] <payonel> AmandaC: i'm glad you're nearly home now
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L1422[22:25:32] <AmandaC> Finally home. Going to plug in my laptop and phone and then lay down and veg out for a bit
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L1425[23:00:27] <AmandaC> %tell Inari oh how the tables have turned! https://imgur.com/gallery/MY8SO7k
L1426[23:00:28] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Inari will be notified of this message when next seen.
L1427[23:04:43] <Mort_Goldman360> do we have a test server for opencomputers?
L1428[23:05:08] <Izaya> no official one to my knowledge
L1429[23:05:27] <Mort_Goldman360> what do people use for now?
L1430[23:10:41] <Izaya> Whatever servers they normally play on?
L1431[23:11:15] <Mort_Goldman360> oh
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L1433[23:25:11] <S3> I really hate it when peoeple blame me for their stupid mistakes
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