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L1[00:02:06] <AngelOfDeath> any one
L2[00:02:24] <AngelOfDeath> it was working fine
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L5[00:23:38] <AngelOfDeath> im having computer problems
L6[00:24:04] <AngelOfDeath> ive tryed re installing the os but that didnt work
L7[00:30:57] <AngelOfDeath> ?
L8[00:37:48] <neumond> @AngelOfDeath Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/xewavavaqa ?
L9[00:37:59] <neumond> do you have this line?
L10[00:38:29] <AngelOfDeath> no but i dont think i have had this line ever and its been running ill try it moment
L11[00:38:49] <neumond> add it everywhere
L12[00:39:29] <AngelOfDeath> nope
L13[00:39:31] <neumond> notice that interactive lua in game automatically requires some modules, like robot, may be component too
L14[00:39:49] <AngelOfDeath> didnt work
L15[00:40:51] <neumond> can you execute same line in interactive lua?
L16[00:41:20] <AngelOfDeath> yea
L17[00:41:22] <neumond> + probably you have module overrides, do you have component.lua in /home/ ?
L18[00:41:50] <neumond> and you can index it?
L19[00:41:59] <neumond> like `=component.gpu`
L20[00:42:07] <AngelOfDeath> o
L21[00:42:46] <AngelOfDeath> sorry confused
L22[00:43:30] <AngelOfDeath> http://tinyurl.com/y8kzkhh3
L23[00:44:25] <AngelOfDeath> https://pastebin.com/v5up7VYM
L24[00:45:09] <neumond> oh.. sorry, just
L25[00:45:09] <neumond> `=require("component").gpu`
L26[00:45:29] <neumond> local variables in interactive lua disappear immediately
L27[00:45:41] <neumond> and.. you can't print statements
L28[00:46:07] <AngelOfDeath> where am i doing that again
L29[00:47:42] <neumond> http://tinyurl.com/yb8xtgat
L30[00:47:53] <AngelOfDeath> i got that
L31[00:48:47] <neumond> good
L32[00:49:10] <neumond> then, in your pastebin code, just add Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/meqoqiwiso as first line
L33[00:49:23] <neumond> not 8th
L34[00:50:24] <AngelOfDeath> ❤
L35[00:51:26] <AngelOfDeath> i dont know how i dont think that line was ever there and it was working
L36[01:01:15] <neumond> OpenOS has some caching for modules, it happens sometimes when you require some modules in interactive lua, then run scripts without `require` and they work, but after you reboot the computer script ceases to work
L37[01:01:34] <AngelOfDeath> makes sence i rebooted
L38[01:03:54] <AngelOfDeath> how would i use getStackInSlot(side:number, slot:number):table to get an entire chest or invetorys info
L39[01:04:17] <AngelOfDeath> also what do i use for OC AE2 intergration
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L43[01:17:35] <neumond> for inventory use getStackInInternalSlot, for chests use getStackInSlot
L44[01:19:10] <AngelOfDeath> getStackInInternalSlot what api is that
L45[01:19:27] <neumond> component.inventoryController
L46[01:19:34] <AngelOfDeath> im useing tranposer and adapters
L47[01:19:55] <neumond> hmm.. I guess it's possible with adapters too
L48[01:20:35] <AngelOfDeath> do i use a controller upgrade
L49[01:23:42] <neumond> that's how furnace becomes available http://tinyurl.com/ybov56qx
L50[01:24:22] <neumond> http://tinyurl.com/y8th9an7
L51[01:24:51] <neumond> but I can't get same result for chest
L52[01:25:42] <AngelOfDeath> what about AE2 they say they use Ae2
L53[01:25:49] <AngelOfDeath> but they dont show
L54[01:31:12] <neumond> you have to enable adapters for chests in config http://tinyurl.com/ybywkqjq
L55[01:33:53] <neumond> well, looks like you can put inventory upgrade inside adapter
L56[01:34:27] <AngelOfDeath> ? with out enabling config ?
L57[01:35:03] <neumond> yes
L58[01:35:39] <neumond> http://tinyurl.com/ycf9v95m
L59[01:35:53] <AngelOfDeath> but does it do anything
L60[01:36:18] <neumond> http://tinyurl.com/y8h2qbqd
L61[01:36:22] <neumond> yes, it does
L62[01:37:11] <neumond> I love such informative configs so much
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L64[01:59:25] <AngelOfDeath> getAllStacks=function(proxy;boolean?0;string{NONE,PROXY,ALL}?);table
L65[01:59:27] <AngelOfDeath> ?
L66[02:36:55] <payonel> @AngelOfDeath 1. you need to add = to every line, in fact having 2 would be a syntax error
L67[02:37:28] <payonel> ah, sorry, that screenshot was old -- i hadn't scrolled down
L68[02:37:30] <payonel> anyways, off to bed
L69[03:18:05] <AngelOfDeath> @payonel is there better documentation for AE2 and OC
L70[03:18:28] <AngelOfDeath> im using 1.7.10
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L75[03:55:19] <NightDragon> Hi all
L76[03:56:05] <NightDragon> I just started with OC and have troubles with the terminal server. It seems like it hang up .... the remote terminal paired to it doesn't update the picture.
L77[03:56:45] <NightDragon> i have 3 more terminal servers and while two work properly anither two don't. is that a known bug? or am i doing something wrong?
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L82[04:04:14] <NightDragon> so now dirctly on discord
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L84[04:27:11] <Izaya> you may be going too far from the terminal server
L85[04:28:24] <NightDragon> i'm standing next to it.
L86[04:28:42] <NightDragon> i just logged off from the seerver (a public one) and reconnected. now it's back on again
L87[04:29:03] <NightDragon> seems like an issue... whatever. as long i dound a way to fix it *gg*
L88[04:29:26] <Izaya> ah
L89[04:29:52] <Izaya> yeah I dunno there's been issues with them on occasion
L90[04:30:27] <NightDragon> do you know by chance how to reset a server to be blank again? do i have to delete the stuff manually?
L91[04:31:07] <Izaya> shift-rightclick with the HDD twice
L92[04:31:13] <Izaya> IIRC
L93[04:31:31] <Izaya> will switch to unmanaged, then managed
L94[04:32:09] <NightDragon> ah clever thanks
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L96[05:03:17] <neumond> Turtle.forward()
L97[05:29:19] <S3> yay 1 foot of snw incoming!
L98[05:39:24] <S3> snow
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L101[08:06:42] <Forecaster> http://tinyurl.com/y7b9oqag
L102[08:06:43] <Forecaster> hah!
L103[08:06:48] <Forecaster> take that Feedly!
L104[08:07:09] <Forecaster> your ads are now being highlighted for me so I wont keep clicking them by accident
L105[08:07:28] <AmandaC> heh
L106[08:09:47] <Forecaster> they started adding those into the feed a while ago and I still just middle click each comic and keep clicking the ads too
L107[08:09:56] <Forecaster> :|
L108[08:10:07] <Forecaster> I guess I could just have the script remove them...
L109[08:11:30] <Forecaster> there, that's even better
L110[08:11:56] <Forecaster> it was nice of them to make them easy to identify
L111[08:12:02] <Forecaster> the regular entries all have id's
L112[08:12:05] <Forecaster> but the ads don't...
L113[08:33:24] <AmandaC> I just use a NextCloud instance for it now. Previously used TinyTinyRSS
L114[08:33:47] <AmandaC> both of which you can self-host
L115[08:35:44] <Forecaster> why does a file hosting thing have RSS?
L116[08:36:33] <AmandaC> Not just file hosting. It's ggot calendars and such too
L117[08:36:36] <AmandaC> contacts
L118[08:37:15] <AmandaC> Video calls, too
L119[08:37:38] <AmandaC> IT's basically bring-your-own <big-name-company locked-in "cloud"> here"
L120[08:40:31] <Forecaster> yeah I don't need that :P
L121[08:47:03] <AmandaC> tinytinyrss is just rss, though. :P
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L126[10:57:56] <AngelOfDeath> hey every one merry christmas
L127[10:58:16] <AngelOfDeath> or what every u celarate ?
L128[11:00:01] <AngelOfDeath> im not haveing much luck understanding the AE2 intergration or finding much documentaion on it i had a look at some git hub stuff but didnt much understand that eather
L129[11:45:49] <AngelOfDeath> right now im trying to transfer items form ME_drive to a chest
L130[11:45:50] <AngelOfDeath> with the computer
L131[11:51:11] <AngelOfDeath> ive done =components.me_controller
L132[11:51:11] <AngelOfDeath> in lua terminal and it give my a list but the rest doesnt show now scroll just give ... at the end
L133[11:51:28] <AmandaC> @AngelOfDeath there's a methos called set or something, you pass that an itemstack and it'll set the export filter to that
L134[11:52:41] <AmandaC> from the normal shell you can run `components -l me_controller >me_controller.txt` and then `edit me_controller.txt` and it'll show you the methods and such
L135[11:52:57] <AmandaC> but you'll likely need an export bus
L136[11:53:12] <AmandaC> ( Or not, it's been awhile since I used AE2 )
L137[11:53:40] <AngelOfDeath> k um ...im useing 1.7.10 just at ive stated it for further refrence
L138[11:53:55] <AmandaC> for OC that shouldn't matter
L139[11:56:01] <AngelOfDeath> components -l me_controller >me_controller.txt
L140[11:56:02] <AngelOfDeath> can i dot that for any thing ?
L141[11:56:06] <AngelOfDeath> do
L142[11:56:11] <AmandaC> yes
L143[11:56:18] <AngelOfDeath> well damn
L144[11:57:40] <AngelOfDeath> thank you
L145[11:58:57] <AmandaC> adding `--limit 1` will make it not repeat if there's multiple of the same component you passed in
L146[12:00:10] <AngelOfDeath> ah alright
L147[12:01:07] <AngelOfDeath> getAdvancedMethodsData ?
L148[12:01:40] <AngelOfDeath> does that ahve anything to do with what im doing with this txt
L149[12:01:42] <Cruor> does refined storage have that integration as well? :o
L150[12:02:39] <AngelOfDeath> ive just seen that people have made stuff useing me thats how i know theres very little doc on it
L151[12:07:50] <AngelOfDeath> Message contained 4 or more newlines and was pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/ekatadunoz
L152[12:08:01] <AngelOfDeath> what uses theses
L153[12:08:21] <AngelOfDeath> exports chest imports transposers adapters
L154[12:08:23] <AngelOfDeath> ?
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L156[12:16:42] <AmandaC> probably exporters
L157[12:16:48] <AmandaC> otherwise, I have no idea
L158[12:16:56] <AmandaC> experiment and find out
L159[12:19:30] <AngelOfDeath> just asking to save the time its going to take me to expairment
L160[12:20:36] <AmandaC> well, if nobody knows and you sit around with your thumb up your ass waiting for a reply, how is that different than spending the time to experiment?
L161[12:22:00] <AngelOfDeath> cause my expamenting takes usally 4 hours cause im typeing code wrong most of the time or useing functions incorectly to begin with so waiting for the replie is usally shorter
L162[12:29:14] <Kodos> Well... it’s Christmas Day. You’re likely waiting a long time today
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L164[13:01:36] <S3> ok
L165[13:06:50] <AngelOfDeath> http://tinyurl.com/y7qcbezf
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L167[13:29:12] <AmandaC> @AngelOfDeath the "nil" means there's nothing in slot one.
L168[13:29:29] <AmandaC> If it's a chest, it's the top-left most slot
L169[13:29:37] <AmandaC> or bottom-lefft
L170[14:14:16] <AngelOfDeath> i dont think im haveing problems with the code im haveing problems with where the blocks should be placed
L171[14:16:04] <AngelOfDeath> i can get a table of items in the ME system /Me_controller
L172[14:17:07] <AngelOfDeath> by useing =component.me_controller.getAvailableItems()
L173[14:17:49] <AngelOfDeath> but i not sure where to conect a chest to move items from the drive to a chest
L174[14:24:59] <AmandaC> Picture of the setup?
L175[14:25:40] <AngelOfDeath> http://tinyurl.com/yalsq4xe
L176[14:25:43] <AngelOfDeath> http://tinyurl.com/yazekadz
L177[14:25:46] <AngelOfDeath> http://tinyurl.com/ydxy88zn
L178[14:26:08] <AngelOfDeath> its im trying every thing
L179[14:26:24] <AngelOfDeath> lots of that doesnt work i know that but i have no clue
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L181[14:27:10] <AngelOfDeath> like the pipe on the drive donest work normaly but i really didnt know with OC
L182[14:29:17] <AngelOfDeath> tryed with teh first pic with the drive connected insted of controller but still nothing
L183[14:49:54] <AmandaC> try placing the chest ontop of the disk drive
L184[14:50:55] <AmandaC> though I still think you'll need to use an AE2 exporter instead of just placing it next to the disk drive
L185[14:52:05] <AmandaC> or wait, is that's what's against one side of the adapter? You need to place it agsinst the chest with the adapter on another side, if so
L186[14:52:14] <AmandaC> ( another side of the exporter )
L187[14:52:41] <AmandaC> and you'll need to run a cable to it
L188[14:56:24] <AmandaC> ( an AE cable )
L189[14:58:20] <AngelOfDeath> http://tinyurl.com/ybh3rzj8
L190[14:58:22] <AngelOfDeath> http://tinyurl.com/y8lqgdxj
L191[14:59:01] <AmandaC> yes, like that
L192[14:59:31] <AngelOfDeath> now do i intract with the controller or the bus
L193[14:59:51] <AmandaC> should be a new compnent for it, me_exporter or whatever
L194[15:10:23] <AngelOfDeath> http://tinyurl.com/y7nugu9k
L195[15:11:30] <AngelOfDeath> https://pastebin.com/EPcev9ck
L196[15:12:16] <AngelOfDeath> https://pastebin.com/HhCZZYfa
L197[15:23:47] <AngelOfDeath> http://tinyurl.com/y8aaxyy9
L198[15:23:58] <AngelOfDeath> its not even lettingme check slot one
L199[15:28:14] <AmandaC> is there anything in the ME network?
L200[15:28:28] <AngelOfDeath> http://tinyurl.com/y7oupol4
L201[15:30:55] <AmandaC> I've got no idea then, sorry.
L202[16:02:17] <AngelOfDeath> found one that works https://oc.cil.li/index.php?/topic/1009-how-to-export-items-from-me-network/&tab=comments#comment-4193
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L206[17:24:21] <Forecaster> http://tinyurl.com/ybrycnch
L207[17:24:22] <Forecaster> right
L208[17:24:31] <Forecaster> good job, tmux
L209[17:24:46] <Forecaster> http://tinyurl.com/ycj3wfpt
L210[17:26:00] <AmandaC> Nice
L211[18:09:31] <Izaya> feels good to recommend old desktops to people
L212[18:15:08] <MGR> Lol?
L213[18:16:36] <Izaya> by that I mean off-lease, Haswell-ish desktops
L214[18:16:42] <Izaya> The ones businesses are upgrading from now
L215[18:18:20] <MGR> Oh
L216[18:18:25] <MGR> Well that's not really "old"
L217[18:18:57] <MGR> Especially due to Intel's recent yearly IPC increase of 0%
L218[18:19:33] <neumond> it's not about IPC anymore, it's about power requirements
L219[18:19:59] <Izaya> aye
L220[18:20:09] <MGR> IPC makes your programs run faster though
L221[18:20:12] <neumond> thinner transistors = less power consumption
L222[18:20:15] <MGR> Unless you're talking about power limiting clocks
L223[18:20:19] <Izaya> I think between the 4790k and the 8th gen equivelant it's like, 25% faster
L224[18:20:37] <MGR> Depends on the workload
L225[18:20:48] <Izaya> How bad is the Radeon 8750?
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L227[18:20:56] <MGR> On pure multithreading, it can edge up towards 50%, but not quite
L228[18:21:00] <Izaya> 8570 rather
L229[18:21:07] <MGR> It's not good
L230[18:21:19] <Izaya> Better than Intel HD 4400?
L231[18:21:26] <MGR> Yes
L232[18:21:37] <Izaya> I imagine it's worth $25 then
L233[18:22:42] <MGR> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L234[18:22:44] <MGR> Probably
L235[18:22:53] <flappy> Vex and alekso were the people in here to ask re: DFPWM, right?
L236[18:24:35] <Izaya> Vex definitely, unsure about alekso
L237[18:25:01] <Izaya> HD 8570 is about equivelant to a GT 730. Certainly not great but certainly fine for some light gaming
L238[18:25:36] <MGR> At 720p and low, yeah
L239[18:26:10] <Skye> oh I have a haswell first gen i5 and a radeon HD 5850 :D
L240[18:26:11] <Izaya> I mean, I figure Skyrim should run fine on medhigh at 1680x1050, which is the most intensive game my sister plays anyway so \o/
L241[18:26:46] <MGR> Eyyyy
L242[18:26:52] <MGR> Cypress kicking it old school
L243[18:27:40] <Izaya> (Also, if the 8570 doesn't work out, a low-profile 1050Ti should work fine and be pretty cheap)
L244[18:28:07] <MGR> A 1050Ti or RX 550 will dominate a 8570
L245[18:28:46] <MGR> Izaya, DDR3 or GDDR5 8570?
L246[18:28:51] <Izaya> @neumond Doesn't smaller transistors induce strange effects though? I know NetBurst was meant to scale to 10Ghz with smaller transistors but said smaller transistors just turned the CPUs into housefires
L247[18:29:02] <Izaya> Not a clue, doesn't say on the listing for the Optiplex 9020
L248[18:29:45] <MGR> Izaya, smaller transistors suffer from quantum tunneling leakage effects
L249[18:29:59] <Izaya> I'm pretty sure I could buy an optiplex with a decent CPU for cheaper than I could buy said decent CPU x_x
L250[18:30:01] <flappy> gamax92 was who i was looking for
L251[18:30:02] <MGR> Which tends to increase the static power consumption
L252[18:30:13] <MGR> Izaya, how much RAM does the GPU have?
L253[18:30:25] <Izaya> Doesn't say.
L254[18:30:31] <MGR> GPU-Z?
L255[18:30:38] <Izaya> It's an ebay listing.
L256[18:30:44] <Izaya> I can't run GPU-Z on it
L257[18:30:45] <MGR> Oh
L258[18:30:50] <MGR> I thought you had it in hand
L259[18:31:05] <Izaya> "DELL OPTIPLEX 9020, I5-4590 (3.3 GHZ), 4 GB, 500 GB, NO OS, WIN 8 PRO COA, RADEON HD 8570, DVDRW"
L260[18:31:16] <Izaya> For $275AUD it seems like a pretty solid deal
L261[18:31:35] <MGR> It's not too bad for $275
L262[18:32:11] <Izaya> Yeah, install Windows 7 or Embedded 8 on it, stick some more RAM in and it'll be wonderful
L263[18:32:41] <MGR> Not Windows 8 Pro? Doesn't it say it comes with the key for that?
L264[18:32:50] <Izaya> I'd normally go for Linux but my sister needs some proprietary stuff for work so \o/
L265[18:33:00] <Izaya> Windows 8 Pro has more metro BS than Windows Embedded 8
L266[18:33:26] <MGR> True
L267[18:33:29] <Izaya> 7 has none but uses more GPU power to render the window decorations so \o/
L268[18:33:33] <MGR> 8.1 was decent, but 8 was not gr8
L269[18:33:35] <Corded> * <MGR> laughs
L270[18:33:53] <Izaya> 8.1 is okay https://a.pomf.space/zimavvtbklol.png
L271[18:34:15] <Izaya> 7 was cleaner but I want the extra GPU power and half a gig of memory
L272[18:34:58] <Izaya> How much is an i7 4770 worth nowdays?
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L274[18:36:23] <Izaya> I can get a used machine with an i7 4770 $50 cheaper than I can get an i7 4770 alone.
L275[18:38:20] <Izaya> oh yeah I got this for christmas https://my.mixtape.moe/javoyh.jpg I am very confused
L276[18:39:12] <Skye> Izaya, I have a minidisk player and recorder
L277[18:39:14] <Skye> they're COOL
L278[18:39:35] <Izaya> was the recorder expensive
L279[18:39:47] <Skye> I dunno
L280[18:39:51] <Skye> neighbour gave it to me
L281[18:40:04] <Izaya> oh okay
L282[18:48:35] <neumond> lzaya: smaller _signal_ transistors produce less heat
L283[18:49:16] <neumond> but heating grows exponentially with raising of switches per second, i.e. cpu clocking
L284[18:49:53] <neumond> in fact, the only moment signal transistor consumes energy is the moment of switching
L285[18:50:55] <neumond> closed or opened state don't dissipate heat on transistor: in first case there's no current, in second there's no voltage drop
L286[18:51:19] <neumond> as we know P = U * I, so you have U or I becoming 0
L287[18:51:23] <AmandaC> Wheee, fighting to stay awake even though it's only 20.00
L288[18:51:40] <AmandaC> My sleep schedule got fucked in a new and exciting way!
L289[18:52:29] <vifino> Congratulations, AmandaC.
L290[18:53:15] <vifino> I should probably sleep. I'll have to leave tomorrow, will be travelling all day.
L291[18:53:24] <neumond> well, to be completely precise, by signal transistor I mean conventional complementary binary logic FET
L292[18:53:28] <vifino> Then again... I could just continue procrastinating
L293[18:54:47] <Izaya> usually works for me
L294[18:55:10] <neumond> yesterday you said tomorrow
L295[18:55:17] <neumond> don't let your dreams be dreams
L296[18:55:24] <Izaya> also, does Discord use a shitty font that doesn't differentiate between l and I properly? People only seem to confuse it on there >.>
L297[18:55:25] <neumond> make your dreams come true
L298[18:56:06] <neumond> yes, that's simple sans serif font, like helvetica
L299[18:57:55] <Izaya> bah
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L301[18:59:11] <Izaya> huh, Liberation Sans uses the same thing whereas Ubuntu has a curl on the end of the l. Interesting.
L302[18:59:21] <Izaya> SGI Screen is the best font anyway.
L303[18:59:23] <hasiathegrill> Happy X-Mas everyone!
L304[18:59:40] <Izaya> Happy winter sale
L305[18:59:51] <Izaya> 's midday boxing day though so \o/
L306[19:00:18] <hasiathegrill> hm im from germany and it is now 2 am :-D
L307[19:02:51] <hasiathegrill> sry if this is a noob-related question. But can someone explain me the opencomputers "Component bus" Card? im interested for what i can use it.
L308[19:03:10] <Izaya> It lets you attach more components without the CPU freaking out and refusing to start
L309[19:03:19] <Izaya> Doesn't really do anything on its own
L310[19:03:54] <hasiathegrill> ok, i understand that. But why do i get another "line" to connect in the server rack?
L311[19:05:47] <Izaya> Not sure, I haven't used a server rack in recent OC versions
L312[19:07:04] <hasiathegrill> Nevertheless, thank you :)
L313[19:07:19] <Izaya> Give it a bit and I'm sure someone will have a proper response
L314[19:12:33] <AmandaC> If I had to guess, it is another component connection point.
L315[19:12:53] <AmandaC> I've never noticed a new line appearing though, besides the one for components and the one for network
L316[19:14:52] <AmandaC> %choose watch a totally normal game or start watching anime
L317[19:14:52] <MichiBot> AmandaC: start watching anime
L318[19:15:48] <Izaya> ... I think I just heard Scott Manley tell me that the penalty for loitering in the docking bay is death.
L319[19:19:07] <Kodos> If you don’t Dockit is
L320[19:19:45] <Kodos> When the countdown reaches zero your docking clearance is revoked
L321[19:20:02] <Izaya> yeah I know
L322[19:20:14] <Izaya> just a little spun out because it sounds so much like Scott Manley and may even be him
L323[19:20:40] <AmandaC> I've had that warning pop yup while I'm on my way out of the ring.
L324[19:21:04] <Izaya> I've gotten a fine for exiting the area too slowly >.>
L325[19:21:08] <AmandaC> Like, I'm sorry mr ATC, I'm trying my best not to go 100m/s into an incoming hsip!
L326[19:26:27] <AmandaC> I usually get it just as I'm passing through the blue force field
L327[19:50:56] <gamax92> bleh
L328[19:51:18] <gamax92> bleeeeeeh
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L330[19:59:25] <hasiathegrill> im back and i was wrong. the extra connection was from the wireless network card. i dont understand this one either, but i wont overstress this now...
L331[20:09:07] <neumond> how can I detect Opencomputers environment?
L332[20:09:17] <neumond> without pcalling require
L333[20:11:27] <AngelOfDeath> for number,item in pairs(itemList) do
L334[20:11:48] <AngelOfDeath> someone please explain this line in retard please
L335[20:12:06] <AngelOfDeath> more just the pairs part
L336[20:12:19] <neumond> pairs iterates the table
L337[20:12:34] <AngelOfDeath> already looked at the lua manual did help
L338[20:12:37] <neumond> all key-value pairs
L339[20:13:03] <AngelOfDeath> didnt
L340[20:13:06] <neumond> there's also ipairs, it works differently
L341[20:13:29] <AngelOfDeath> Message contained 4 or more newlines and was pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/xorohejexo
L342[20:13:31] <AngelOfDeath> yea
L343[20:13:33] <AngelOfDeath> i see this
L344[20:14:50] <neumond> `for k, v in pairs(sometable) do print(k, v) end`
L345[20:14:52] <AngelOfDeath> Message contained 4 or more newlines and was pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/ivowaduven
L346[20:14:55] <neumond> same code with ipairs
L347[20:15:57] <neumond> well, metamethods and these internals descriptions are intended for anyone who wants to implement pairs/ipairs for their own classes
L348[20:16:20] <neumond> usually you don't need it
L349[20:16:51] <AngelOfDeath> i also dont under stand the k's and the v's
L350[20:17:30] <neumond> `table = {a=10, b=20, c=30}`
L351[20:17:49] <neumond> that's key-value pairs
L352[20:17:53] <neumond> k's and v's
L353[20:18:03] <AngelOfDeath> wait wait
L354[20:18:06] <neumond> keys are `"a", "b", "c"`
L355[20:18:11] <AngelOfDeath> k
L356[20:18:12] <neumond> values are `10, 20, 30`
L357[20:18:19] <AngelOfDeath> key = k
L358[20:18:46] <neumond> you can write `for key, value in pairs(sometable)` if you want
L359[20:19:07] <neumond> or `for myFancyIndex, derpValue in pairs(...`
L360[20:19:42] <AngelOfDeath> kk now can you dumb down pairs like that
L361[20:21:20] <neumond> `pairs` is builtin function that returns iterator object, and for loop uses that iterator object calling it's "next" method (roughly, for lua this isn't true, but generally iterators work this way)
L362[20:22:07] <AngelOfDeath> what is an iterator
L363[20:22:54] <neumond> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iterator
L364[20:23:25] <neumond> roughly it's kinda pointer to specific position in table
L365[20:23:44] <neumond> with every iteration it advances one position further
L366[20:24:07] <neumond> letting you cycle to go over every thing in table
L367[20:24:45] <neumond> letting your cycle to go over every thing in table [Edited]
L368[20:24:45] <AngelOfDeath> so it calls next as in calling k & v
L369[20:26:12] <neumond> this doesn't work with lua, but usually you can
L370[20:26:13] <neumond> Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/xutihitago
L371[20:27:04] <neumond> iterator can return pairs of values, triple of values, entire objects, anything
L372[20:27:52] <neumond> there're no more methods except "next", so you can't go back over iterator, only forward
L373[20:28:22] <neumond> iterator doesn't change the list/table itself, only reads its elements
L374[20:28:48] <neumond> and doesn't need to be tied to any kind of container
L375[20:29:09] <neumond> `for i=1,10 do` -- that's an iterator too
L376[20:29:22] <AngelOfDeath> oh
L377[20:29:27] <AngelOfDeath> ive seen this before
L378[20:29:33] <neumond> yea, it's very abstract thing
L379[20:29:45] <AngelOfDeath> so
L380[20:30:07] <AngelOfDeath> it will run thru 1-10 then nil
L381[20:30:20] <neumond> yes
L382[20:31:24] <neumond> Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/otuquguxac
L383[20:31:41] <neumond> that's how you write your own version of `1,10`
L384[20:32:07] <neumond> then just `for i in iterate1to10() do`
L385[20:32:10] <AngelOfDeath> and that just doesn tables?
L386[20:32:15] <AngelOfDeath> does
L387[20:32:27] <Izaya> neumond, _OSVERSION
L388[20:32:37] <Izaya> for checking for OC
L389[20:32:39] <neumond> thanks
L390[20:36:54] <AngelOfDeath> alright ive gotta call it anight thank you for explaining
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L392[20:59:36] <hasiathegrill> good night
L393[20:59:59] <Izaya> o/
L394[21:00:03] <SF-MC> o/
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L396[21:00:29] <S3> lol
L397[21:01:06] <SF-MC> ugh
L398[21:01:15] <SF-MC> Who is it that does the chicken/pig rain
L399[21:01:26] <SF-MC> Is that iChun?
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L402[21:05:17] <SF-MC> it was CoFH
L403[21:05:26] <SF-MC> no it was not
L404[21:05:27] <SF-MC> dammit
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