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L3[01:02:35] <S3> 200GB is a shitton
L4[01:05:26] <S3> without a very special class of data structures I can't remember the name for, that's up to 2 ^ ~16 billion combinations of information!
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L6[01:34:06] <Izaya> that's like 4 games
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L8[01:55:45] <Izaya> only line another hour till E:D is downloaded
L9[01:55:47] <Izaya> like*
L10[02:17:09] <Forecaster> http://tinyurl.com/y7375xop
L11[02:17:14] <Forecaster> 404 space not found
L12[02:18:20] <Forecaster> AmandaC it does this: http://tinyurl.com/yb5phqkv
L13[02:21:08] <Forecaster> and my entire library uses the format (<start year> - <end year>) Show name
L14[02:21:18] <Forecaster> or if ongoing (<start year> -) Show name
L15[03:09:23] <Forecaster> http://store.steampowered.com/news/35437/
L16[03:09:41] <Forecaster> Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/ehadirivoh
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L20[03:36:19] <payonel> @habnabit poke
L21[03:36:32] <habnabit> good morning
L22[03:36:46] <payonel> fix it
L23[03:36:52] <habnabit> ?
L24[03:37:05] <payonel> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/pull/2683#issuecomment-353713208
L25[03:37:45] <payonel> :)
L26[03:37:46] <habnabit> yeah, i noticed that, but is that actually a bug? you get the same thing in a crafting grid
L27[03:37:56] <payonel> yeah
L28[03:37:59] <payonel> i considered that too
L29[03:38:04] <habnabit> i'll comment to that effect
L30[03:38:07] <payonel> so that's just if you craft()
L31[03:38:08] <payonel> yeah?
L32[03:38:15] <habnabit> right
L33[03:38:16] <payonel> but craft(1) would be okay?
L34[03:38:20] <habnabit> if you did cra.. yes
L35[03:38:24] <payonel> yeah
L36[03:38:27] <payonel> hmm
L37[03:38:29] <payonel> well the other option --
L38[03:38:35] <payonel> would be to compare the recipes?
L39[03:38:37] <payonel> stop if it changes?
L40[03:38:49] <habnabit> that is a possibility sure
L41[03:39:03] <habnabit> i'm not sure what happened on earlier OC
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L43[03:40:18] <payonel> yeah, that's a fair question
L44[03:40:28] <payonel> or, point*
L45[03:41:17] <habnabit> commented
L46[03:43:16] <payonel> coo
L47[03:43:18] <payonel> thanks :)
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L60[08:03:40] <AmandaC> ... I don't understand the difference between a 1E and 1D refinery. the D uses more power, and is more expensive, but none of the stats they show are any better
L61[08:04:05] <Forecaster> more slots?
L62[08:04:23] <AmandaC> "bin count" is 1 for both
L63[08:04:28] <Forecaster> I haven't done mining in ages so I don't remember what the differences between the classes are
L64[08:04:35] <AmandaC> the D apparently has less integrety, too
L65[08:04:39] <Forecaster> does it weight less?
L66[08:04:51] <Forecaster> does it weigh less...
L67[08:05:09] <AmandaC> I don't see that number on the buy page
L68[08:05:27] <Forecaster> it should be there somewhere
L69[08:05:30] <AmandaC> class, rating, integrety, power draw, boot time, and bin count
L70[08:06:15] <AmandaC> power draw is higher for the D, too
L71[08:06:41] <Forecaster> usually the more expensive components draw more power, but weigh less
L72[08:06:52] <Forecaster> which means better jump range
L73[08:07:37] <Forecaster> oh
L74[08:07:47] <Forecaster> apparently refineries are mass-less...
L75[08:07:48] <Forecaster> huh
L76[08:08:11] <Forecaster> I guess the D is completely useless then, but that's how it usually works
L77[08:08:31] <Forecaster> it may be an artefact of auto-generated modules?
L78[08:08:47] <AmandaC> the D is worse than useless, since it's integrety is 24 while the E is 32
L79[08:08:59] <AmandaC> which I assume means risk of breaking
L80[08:09:35] <Forecaster> it means it has lower health
L81[08:09:44] <Forecaster> modules don't just break randomly
L82[08:09:52] <AmandaC> right, guess I'm going to save up for the C instead then
L83[08:09:59] <Forecaster> yeah
L84[08:11:53] <AmandaC> looks like I might have to save up for a new ship first and foremost
L85[08:12:07] <AmandaC> the refinery takes up the only available slot
L86[08:12:19] <Izaya> so
L87[08:12:30] <Izaya> a class C FSD will let me jump further, right?
L88[08:12:35] <AmandaC> evenin' Izaya
L89[08:12:46] <Izaya> morning AmandaC o/
L90[08:12:46] <Forecaster> higher class + higher rating = better (usually)
L91[08:13:12] <Izaya> 2 dots and e vs 2 dots and c
L92[08:13:20] <Forecaster> the exceptions are shield generators (and refineries apparently) because they are affected by the ships mass
L93[08:13:45] <Forecaster> shield generators have optimal mass ranges
L94[08:13:50] <vifino> Izaya: do you own E:D now?!
L95[08:14:04] <Izaya> it was like $20 for horizons
L96[08:14:06] <Forecaster> are any of you Garry Gornix?
L97[08:14:08] <Izaya> why tf not
L98[08:14:17] <vifino> we're gonna have to play sometime. :3
L99[08:14:26] <AmandaC> I'm AmandaGC.
L100[08:14:30] <Forecaster> I would guess not but it doesn't hurt to ask
L101[08:14:30] <AmandaC> My ship's named Bob.
L102[08:14:39] <Forecaster> cause whoever that is sent me a friend request
L103[08:14:43] <AmandaC> haha
L104[08:14:52] <Izaya> wait, min jump?
L105[08:14:59] <vifino> Forecaster: nope, you got me on your friendlist.
L106[08:15:20] <Izaya> ah fuck it I need to deliver this shit
L107[08:15:42] <Forecaster> eh, I'll just accept it and see what happens
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L109[08:21:54] <Izaya> goddamn the UI in this game is wonderful
L110[08:21:59] <vifino> ^
L111[08:24:54] <Forecaster> what
L112[08:25:01] <Forecaster> my home station is on lockdown D:
L113[08:25:08] <Forecaster> the market and outfitting are unavailable
L114[08:29:35] <vifino> someone farted and the air filtration systems freaked out
L115[08:39:40] <Izaya> Leonard Nimoy Station :3
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L119[09:54:04] <Izaya> ...huh
L120[09:54:25] <Izaya> I've been given a mission to deliver stuff to a nonexistent station
L121[09:54:46] <Forecaster> I think that happened to me once too
L122[09:54:51] <Forecaster> or something similar
L123[09:54:59] <Forecaster> might want to report it
L124[09:55:24] <Izaya> it wants me to take info to a station around planet 3a of this system
L125[09:55:33] <Izaya> there's only one planet in this system
L126[09:55:43] <Forecaster> oh
L127[09:55:54] <Forecaster> it may be orbiting a second star that you can't see
L128[09:56:06] <Forecaster> try scanning the nav beacon or use a discovery scanner
L129[09:59:28] <AmandaC> ahahahaha "[Local] Cruise Ship: I'd like to direct your attention to our flight attendents for a brief safety instructional"
L130[10:00:04] <AmandaC> s/instructional/demonstration/
L131[10:00:14] <Forecaster> ?
L132[10:00:39] <AmandaC> showed up in the chat for my ares
L133[10:00:50] <Forecaster> yeah, those pop up now and then
L134[10:01:02] <AmandaC> I found it amusing. :3
L135[10:01:05] <Izaya> scanned nav beacon
L136[10:01:09] <Izaya> stuff showed up
L137[10:01:12] <Izaya> thanks
L138[10:01:47] <Forecaster> there are wedding barges that send out messages sometimes
L139[10:02:11] <Corded> * <Forecaster> attempts to python something
L140[10:03:01] <AmandaC> I need to learn the balance of getting to a place fast with the FSD and overshooting it massively.
L141[10:03:16] <Forecaster> 75%
L142[10:03:22] <AmandaC> I either crawl to the safe drop-out range, or fly past it
L143[10:03:42] <Forecaster> 75% is the optimal speed for approach
L144[10:03:49] <Forecaster> you can bind a hotkey to that
L145[10:04:03] <Forecaster> (as well as 0, 25, 50 and 100%)
L146[10:04:11] <Forecaster> and the same but reverse
L147[10:04:31] <AmandaC> I think the issue is I don't understand the FSD at all. It seems to have different speeds for the same throttle position
L148[10:04:50] <AmandaC> I'll leave it on the same sliver and be increasingly fast
L149[10:04:52] <Forecaster> the speed is relative no nearby stellar bodies
L150[10:05:02] <Forecaster> but the percentages are always the same
L151[10:05:06] <Forecaster> they are relative as well
L152[10:05:37] <vifino> tfw my neighbour called me just now, first time in like... a few months?
L153[10:05:43] <vifino> he wanted me to fix his wifi. ofc.
L154[10:06:08] <Forecaster> so bind the 75% speed to a key, use that when approaching stations and planets and you'll be fine 100% of the time
L155[10:06:34] <Forecaster> took me a long time before I figured that out
L156[10:09:47] <AmandaC> @Forecaster thanks, I'll give it a try. :#
L157[10:10:28] <AmandaC> woo. Just got 34,000CR from a mining trip. :3
L158[10:10:36] <Forecaster> ^^
L159[10:11:28] <Forecaster> Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/jimurifege
L160[10:11:43] <Forecaster> `print(m) => "None"`
L161[10:11:44] <Forecaster> what
L162[10:13:03] <Forecaster> oh, woops
L163[10:26:02] <AmandaC> Woo, 1c refinery get.
L164[10:26:08] <Forecaster> yay
L165[10:26:49] * AmandaC wants collector limpets, but doesn't seem to have any slots free. :|
L166[10:27:11] <AmandaC> It's such a pain to play catch with the fragments
L167[10:27:14] <Forecaster> those cost money to use though
L168[10:27:20] <AmandaC> oh?
L169[10:27:32] <Forecaster> the drones are single-use
L170[10:27:51] <Forecaster> you deploy them, they do their job, then expire
L171[10:27:55] <Forecaster> then you have to replace them
L172[10:27:58] <AmandaC> ah
L173[10:27:59] <Forecaster> and they take up cargo space
L174[10:28:17] <Forecaster> not really worth it on a small ship
L175[10:31:14] <AmandaC> Also, the 75% thing worked perfectly, thanks for the tip. :)
L176[10:34:30] <AmandaC> Also, possibly stupid question. I'm relatively pretty safe from NPC pirates in a high security system, right/ I noticed a ship scan me and was like "What've you got?" "Nothing interesting." as I started my mining
L177[10:36:48] <Forecaster> those are pirates
L178[10:37:04] <Forecaster> there's most likely security ships around though
L179[10:37:18] <Forecaster> their names can vary, but they're all called the same within the same system
L180[10:38:17] <Forecaster> dammit
L181[10:38:34] <Forecaster> creating symlinks in python is trickier than I'd hoped
L182[10:39:19] <Izaya> 150k!
L183[10:40:43] <AmandaC> Forecaster: os.link, I think?
L184[10:41:00] <Forecaster> windows :P
L185[10:41:05] <AmandaC> ah
L186[10:41:23] <AmandaC> Windows DOES have symlinks, but I don't know if python has it wired up
L187[10:41:30] <Forecaster> I know
L188[10:41:34] <Forecaster> and I've found a method
L189[10:41:34] <AmandaC> ( guessing not 0
L190[10:41:38] <Izaya> Windows symlinks are ... strange
L191[10:41:41] <Forecaster> but it's not working, and I can't tell why
L192[10:42:12] <Forecaster> it just output 0 and did nothing and I haven't been able to find out what it means
L193[10:42:32] <Skye> Izaya, there are three types of windows symlinks
L194[10:42:36] <AmandaC> are there spaces?
L195[10:42:53] <Skye> 1st type is "directory junction", can be made as a user, but only works for directories
L196[10:43:03] <Skye> 2nd type is an admin symlink?
L197[10:43:10] <Skye> 3rd type is user symlink, only in Windows 10
L198[10:43:29] <Forecaster> there are spaces in my paths yeah
L199[10:44:01] <AmandaC> if you're not using the os.link for it, you'll have to do some arcane shit. Window's FS APIs are a clusterfuck of DOS compat
L200[10:44:34] <AmandaC> I think it's prefixing the path with something to act as a sentianal to windows "This doesn't need to be DOS compat"
L201[10:44:58] <Izaya> fun way to break windows
L202[10:45:00] <AmandaC> A plex dev I know elsenet is constantly screaming into the void about windows' FS stuff
L203[10:45:10] <Izaya> make a file with a path >256 chars long
L204[10:45:38] <Forecaster> Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/egejazogat
L205[10:47:06] <Forecaster> huh
L206[10:47:11] <Forecaster> I tried os.link
L207[10:47:15] <Forecaster> I think it copied the files...
L208[10:47:49] <Forecaster> I can't quite tell
L209[10:47:58] <Forecaster> it was really fast for just over 3k files
L210[10:48:20] <Forecaster> totalling 684 GB....
L211[10:48:23] <Forecaster> that's not possible
L212[10:48:35] <Forecaster> they have to be links, it's just that they look like files I guess...
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L214[10:52:14] <guest> Hi
L215[10:52:35] <Izaya> %hi
L216[10:52:36] *** guest is now known as Guest39206
L217[10:52:44] <Izaya> %hello
L218[10:52:49] <Izaya> One of these...
L219[10:52:54] <MichiBot> Message too long to send to channel https://paste.pc-logix.com/lajafasofi
L220[10:53:46] * Skye faceplams
L221[10:53:49] <Skye> Michiyo!
L222[10:53:52] * Mimiru grumbles at michibot
L223[10:53:55] <Mimiru> I'm aware.
L224[10:54:05] <Forecaster> I should add that as a proper command
L225[10:54:06] <Forecaster> hold on
L226[10:54:15] <Mimiru> it's already been fixed
L227[10:54:17] <Mimiru> I just need to
L228[10:54:23] <Mimiru> %restart
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L230[10:54:31] <Forecaster> still, then I can add an alias as "hi" :P
L231[10:54:52] <Mimiru> well... we could add aliases to dyncommand.
L232[10:54:54] <Mimiru> :P
L233[10:55:02] <Forecaster> I guess :P
L234[10:55:17] <Mimiru> I'd rather not hard code *more* channel specific messages.
L235[10:55:37] <Forecaster> aw
L236[10:55:43] <Forecaster> but they're so nice and specific
L237[10:56:17] <Mimiru> my next thing is going to be making channel specific dyncommands, so a command defined here can be different from a command defined elsewhere...
L238[10:56:22] <Mimiru> also where the fuck is my bot.
L239[10:56:48] <Forecaster> eaten by a grue probably
L240[10:56:51] <Mimiru> NPE in shell...?
L241[10:57:10] <Mimiru> https://paste.pc-logix.com/rucevimiga.css @Forecaster
L242[10:57:39] <Forecaster> huh
L243[10:58:42] <Mimiru> Oh, I see
L244[10:58:44] <Mimiru> you broke it.
L245[10:58:52] <Forecaster> yeah I already fixing
L246[10:59:04] <AmandaC> %blame Forecaster
L247[10:59:07] <AmandaC> :P
L248[11:03:23] <Forecaster> there
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L251[11:05:54] <Mimiru> %hello
L252[11:05:54] <MichiBot> Mimiru: Hello! Welcome to #oc! The one and only opencomputers channel! Please ask your questions directly (don't ask to ask) and provide error/code examples! (Use pastebin.com if theyre more than one line!) Dont mind the random conversation you might have walked into.
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L254[11:15:52] <Guest39206> some stupid question: is a code which has long variable names bigger in size than a shorter one?
L255[11:16:17] <Guest39206> code 1: component = require("component")
L256[11:16:34] <Guest39206> code 2: c =require("component")
L257[11:16:47] <Forecaster> the file size will be bigger yeah...
L258[11:17:00] <Forecaster> not by a significant amount though
L259[11:17:34] <Guest39206> it matters.. Im writing drone code
L260[11:17:41] <Forecaster> then yes
L261[11:17:43] <Forecaster> obviously
L262[11:19:28] <Guest39206> I want to know what methods drone component have
L263[11:20:14] <Forecaster> http://ocdoc.cil.li/component:drone?s[]=drone
L264[11:30:53] <Guest39206> I'm trying to assemble a drone now. but I can't insert tier one redstone card
L265[11:31:01] <Guest39206> what is wrong?
L266[11:31:34] <Guest39206> Ah drone cannot use this card...ok...
L267[11:36:37] <Guest39206> how to re-itemize placed drone?
L268[11:52:56] <AmandaC> scrench it
L269[12:07:40] <Forecaster> https://satwcomic.com/merry-ukrainian-christmas
L270[12:07:43] <Forecaster> spiders!
L271[12:20:29] <Guest39206> what is difference between component.proxy(component.list("redstone")())
L272[12:20:43] <Guest39206> and component.redstone?
L273[12:21:02] <Guest39206> at newbie's eye , former is useless
L274[12:27:17] <fingercomp> `component.redstone` is OpenOS-only
L275[12:28:56] <Guest39206> ah; wrong question.... sorry...
L276[12:29:13] <Guest39206> what is difference between variable = component.proxy(component.list("redstone")())
L277[12:29:37] <Guest39206> and variable = require("component")?
L278[12:33:01] <payonel> Guest39206: require(name) is for loading libraries
L279[12:33:37] <payonel> component.proxy(address) gives you a proxy to a component -- a handle or access to a device you have
L280[12:34:00] <payonel> component.list(name) returns a list of components whose name matches `name`
L281[12:34:20] <payonel> an iterator, really. and thus component.list(name)() returns the first result from that iterator
L282[12:34:43] <payonel> so component.proxy(component.list("redstone")()) gives you a proxy to your first redstone card in your machine
L283[12:41:53] <AmandaC> require(name) also will only work in OpenOS, AIUI
L284[12:42:24] <payonel> correct
L285[12:42:51] <Muanh> hey guys the filesystem.exists doesn't seem to work
L286[12:42:55] <Muanh> it always returns false
L287[12:43:25] <AmandaC> @Muahn under OpenOS?
L288[12:44:33] <Muanh> yeah
L289[12:44:43] <payonel> @Muahn the path to all filesystem api is always absolute; or in other words assumed to be relative to /
L290[12:44:54] <Muanh> ahhh ok
L291[12:44:56] <Muanh> let me try
L292[12:44:57] <Forecaster> (it's nh)
L293[12:45:11] <payonel> you can use shell.resolve(path) to convert relative to absolute
L294[12:45:24] <payonel> so generally, you'll see code that says: filesystem[api](shell.resolve(path))
L295[12:46:17] <payonel> @Muahn also, paths to other api are not always assumed to be absolute. only filesystem. so (Examples) io.open, loadfile, dofile, ...
L296[12:46:22] <payonel> those are relative apis
L297[12:46:28] <payonel> filesystem is special
L298[12:46:46] <AmandaC> @Forecaster So, I can afford a Hauler, just barely. thoughts?
L299[12:47:06] <Forecaster> Amanda if you're mining that's great
L300[12:47:11] <Forecaster> hauling cargo, also great
L301[12:47:16] <Muanh> that helped
L302[12:47:17] <Muanh> thnx
L303[12:47:17] <Forecaster> if you wanna do combat too, no
L304[12:47:21] <Muanh> you guys are the best
L305[12:47:21] <Forecaster> get a Cobra Mk3
L306[12:47:27] <payonel> @muahn i have an important question for you
L307[12:47:28] <payonel> :)
L308[12:47:43] <Muanh> sure
L309[12:47:52] <Forecaster> their name is Muanh, not Muahn
L310[12:47:59] <Forecaster> :|
L311[12:48:01] <payonel> if you were looking for an answer, or knowledge about this detail (that "filesystem api always uses absolute, nothing else assumes that though")
L312[12:48:19] <AmandaC> @Forecaster can I move stuff from the old ship to the new one? If not, I'd rather wait until I'll have more than pocket change left over
L313[12:48:33] <payonel> what keyword, or what category...or what, would you look for to learn about that on our wiki? http://ocdoc.cil.li/
L314[12:48:33] <Forecaster> no, you have to empty the cargo bay I think
L315[12:48:39] <Forecaster> you can move modules
L316[12:48:56] <payonel> @forecaster thanks, i don't have autocomplete for discord names, so i was typing it out
L317[12:48:58] <AmandaC> ah, modules is what I meant. I just emptied my cargo for the money to be able to buy it.
L318[12:49:01] <Muanh> absolute relative path
L319[12:49:03] <Muanh> those 3 i think
L320[12:49:49] <AmandaC> and no, I don't plan on combat at all. I'm terrible enough at it, at least int he tutorials, so I'd rather just stick moslty to safe systems and be a little mining bee. :P
L321[12:50:10] <payonel> @Muanh https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/2686 see the last item i added
L322[12:51:01] <payonel> @Muanh i'm trying to improve our docs, if you think of anything else that was confusing/not obvious/etc please make a comment on that ticket for me to document
L323[12:51:50] <Muanh> thnx, I'll try to make notes on when I have to look up stuff and report it ?
L324[12:54:32] <Guest39206> so, I learned:
L325[12:55:44] <Guest39206> 1: component.proxy(componentname) is complex but can handle multiple same components. component.componentname cannot
L326[12:56:12] <payonel> ALMOST :)
L327[12:56:24] <payonel> component.proxy(address), not component.proxy(name)
L328[12:56:37] <Guest39206> 2:drones cannot use require function because (1)drones cannot use openos
L329[12:56:47] <payonel> and component.componentname is a CONVENIENCE added by openos -- you won't have that in eeprom code
L330[12:57:21] <payonel> Guest39206: well it's more because you haven't installed openos on the drone -- because openos doesn't fit nor install on an eeprom
L331[12:57:31] <Guest39206> convenient. but limited. ok. I think understanded
L332[12:58:01] <payonel> yes, convenient. it's shorthand/quick access to a component type
L333[12:58:23] <payonel> when openos is booting up, it assigns just the first component of each type to that quick access convenience field
L334[12:59:06] <AmandaC> You can change the one it uses too, can't you?
L335[12:59:12] <Forecaster> AmandaC: wanna do multicrew sometimes?
L336[12:59:19] <Forecaster> I've got a ship with a fighter bay in it
L337[13:00:02] <AmandaC> @Forecaster might be interesting, sure.
L338[13:00:30] <AmandaC> I've started playing in the Mobius thing that Kodos linked at me, since I'm very weary of other players. :P
L339[13:00:39] * AmandaC very much dislikes PvP
L340[13:00:53] <Forecaster> just play in solo then
L341[13:01:28] <Forecaster> but unless you go to really crowded (like community goals) or become wanted it's very unlikely you'll be attacked by players
L342[13:03:25] <Guest39206> Thanks
L343[13:03:27] <Guest39206> Teachers,what is your time now?
L344[13:03:36] <Guest39206> what time is now?
L345[13:03:44] <Guest39206> in you country?
L346[13:06:04] <Guest39206> I want to question you
L347[13:06:22] <Forecaster> that sounds omnious
L348[13:06:35] <Guest39206> so can I know which time is comport for you to logged and chat?
L349[13:06:52] <Forecaster> that varies heavily
L350[13:08:10] <Guest39206> if I know your country, I can try to logged in evening
L351[13:08:55] <Guest39206> ah sorry waking at 4 am stuns my english
L352[13:11:01] <Forecaster> Just pop in and ask.
L353[13:11:39] <AmandaC> There's lots of people from lots of different timezones
L354[13:14:46] <Muanh> btw, did someone write a file database for opencomputers?
L355[13:14:58] <Forecaster> file database?
L356[13:15:28] <Muanh> yeah embedded database something liek sqlite or something
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L358[13:24:44] <Guest39206> oh I thought you are all from NA :)
L359[13:25:34] <Guest39206> fact is you are all from earth! ;)
L360[13:26:22] <Forecaster> or are we
L361[13:27:12] <Cruor> im from the planet derp
L362[13:27:17] <Forecaster> fun fact, the reason it takes so long to receive a response sometimes on IRC is because of signal travel delay, true story
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L365[13:36:56] <CompanionCube> Muanh: why not just use a table serialized to/from a file?
L366[13:37:17] <CompanionCube> or do you need SQL-like functionality
L367[13:52:17] <AmandaC> @Forecaster do you know if it'd be worth it to note down what resources I get from where? I guess I mean: Does it change regularly?
L368[13:52:34] <Forecaster> certain belts have certain compositions
L369[13:52:48] <Forecaster> I don't think they change
L370[13:53:00] <AmandaC> nice.
L371[13:53:09] * AmandaC makes a note where she's gotten 3t of osmium then
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L375[15:51:33] <Mimiru> ugh, this headache is killing me..
L376[15:51:41] <Mimiru> Also I need to push these changes to github..
L377[15:52:12] <Forecaster> I've never heard of fatal headaches though :P
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L379[16:07:04] <AmandaC> Just hauled in 60-85k of metals. :3
L380[16:07:10] <AmandaC> but now: anime
L381[16:07:25] <AmandaC> ( 60-85k CR* )
L382[16:08:08] <Mimiru> I *STILL* haven't played that game.. "/
L383[16:08:10] <Mimiru> :/*
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L386[16:27:03] <AngelOfDeath> hey ladys and gents can i display inventory items on screens as pics ?
L387[16:27:42] <AmandaC> no, screens only support displaying text
L388[16:28:06] <AngelOfDeath> is there a way do make a shop screen in some way
L389[16:28:24] <Forecaster> you could render items as holograms
L390[16:28:29] <Forecaster> with the hologram projector
L391[16:28:39] <Forecaster> you'd have to replicate the icons yourself though
L392[16:28:58] <AngelOfDeath> i think is was computronics
L393[16:29:07] <AngelOfDeath> does it have a item screen
L394[16:29:21] <Forecaster> no
L395[16:29:48] <AngelOfDeath> so i guess text buttons is my only option
L396[16:32:26] <AngelOfDeath> where is the best place to find programs other have made
L397[16:32:35] <AngelOfDeath> ive been on OC forms
L398[16:32:43] <Izaya> github, probably
L399[16:43:58] <Forecaster> ah yes, the ol' hub of gits
L400[16:44:26] <Forecaster> well, actually that's most of the internet really
L401[16:53:10] <AngelOfDeath> does anyone know of a simple shop program im having no luck with the github search
L402[16:53:58] <Forecaster> that's probably something you'd be better off writing yourself
L403[16:54:32] <AngelOfDeath> i need somthing tro refrence ive never done anthing like this before so i dont know where to start
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L405[16:59:04] <AngelOfDeath> im trying to expand the fuction of my train logistics having a remote shop system being able to have client computers and host computers the host computer will be my base and responceable for sending trains to the client location with the items purchesd from the host host computer AKA me and my inventory at base
L406[17:04:35] <Skye> there are OC image formats?
L407[17:04:52] <Skye> but I dunno what's the best one
L408[17:05:27] <Cruor> CTIF? :I
L409[17:07:19] <CompanionCube> Skye: I doubt they'll be good for the usecase of a shop though
L410[17:07:35] <Skye> well... pixel art can't be that hard right?
L411[17:07:39] <Skye> :P
L412[17:07:53] <CompanionCube> Skye: if you want multiple decent-res images on a single screen, manipulating that might be difficult.
L413[17:08:14] <Skye> I guess
L414[17:08:50] <Skye> but just say rendering 16*16 pixel art? not sure how many that'd fit...
L415[17:11:48] <AmandaC> %choose Kekkai Sensen or Blend S
L416[17:11:48] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Unknown sub-command 'Kekkai' (Try: No registered sub-commands.)
L417[17:11:49] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Blend S
L418[17:11:53] <AmandaC> ...
L419[17:12:07] <AmandaC> %blame Forecaster
L420[17:12:07] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Unknown sub-command 'Forecaster' (Try: No registered sub-commands.)
L421[17:12:08] * MichiBot blames Forecaster for the existence of wasps!
L422[17:14:01] <Forecaster> oh
L423[17:14:03] <Forecaster> uh
L424[17:14:07] <Forecaster> woops
L425[17:14:33] <Forecaster> right... that may have been why I didn't do that to begin with...
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L427[17:17:07] <Skye> ~markov
L428[17:17:07] <ocdoc> Usage: ~markov nick
L429[17:17:10] <Skye> ~markov Forecaster
L430[17:17:11] <ocdoc> I'm guessing that might be correct once she's processed those are angled along the track to znc? :P
L431[17:17:18] <Skye> ~markov lewd
L432[17:17:19] <ocdoc> I think Inari was she was nude for me :> <AmandaC> 100% too underage, 100% too underage, 100% too much penis
L433[17:17:25] <Skye> WTF
L434[17:17:26] <Kodos> LOLL
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L436[17:18:03] <aSourceFish> Shuudoushi: will you provide OpenSecurity for Minecraft 1.12.2?
L437[17:18:28] <Kodos> What doesn't work on it?
L438[17:18:32] <payonel> %seen Shuudoushi
L439[17:18:32] <MichiBot> Shuudoushi was last seen 531d 2h 26m 25s ago. Saying: No Record
L440[17:18:35] <Corded> * <Kodos> is also a contributor
L441[17:18:40] <payonel> aSourceFish: ^
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L443[17:18:55] <Skye> ~markov Inari
L444[17:18:56] <ocdoc> Cruor is the real world when added in it's tooltip on what you do all that white?
L445[17:19:06] <Kodos> ~markov ocdoc
L446[17:19:06] <ocdoc>
L447[17:19:06] <aSourceFish> 531 days ago...
L448[17:19:14] <Cruor> ocdoc: fight me
L449[17:19:24] <Skye> ~markov aSourceFish
L450[17:19:24] <ocdoc> Please wait ...
L451[17:19:31] <ocdoc> Shuudoushi: will you provide OpenSecurity for Minecraft 1.12.2?
L452[17:19:51] <Kodos> Wait
L453[17:20:01] <Cruor> ~markov Cruor
L454[17:20:01] <ocdoc> think i only "showed" it off within reasonable :o
L455[17:20:06] <Kodos> Are you asking about OpenSecurity, or SecureOS (The OS that comes with it) aSourceFish
L456[17:20:21] <Izaya> I hate planets.
L457[17:20:29] <aSourceFish> both
L458[17:20:32] <aSourceFish> wait
L459[17:20:37] <Kodos> Shuu only did SecureOS
L460[17:20:40] <aSourceFish> SecureOS doesn't need an update :D
L461[17:20:46] <Kodos> YEah, I was gonna say
L462[17:20:49] <Skye> ~markov Izaya
L463[17:20:49] <Kodos> There's nothing busted on it afaik
L464[17:20:50] <ocdoc> ... forgot to make a T2 box running wmaker is a real filesystem of most dairy products to be part of it
L465[17:20:53] <Kodos> If there is, come back
L466[17:20:59] <Kodos> ANd I will poke it with a treated stick
L467[17:21:26] <aSourceFish> ok, I downgrade to Minecraft 1.10.2
L468[17:21:28] <aSourceFish> :)
L469[17:22:40] <Kodos> You should consider downgrading (Upgrading, really) to 1.710
L470[17:22:43] <Kodos> You should consider downgrading (Upgrading, really) to 1.7.10 [Edited]
L471[17:22:59] <Kodos> I get so many performance issues on anything past it, it's not even funny
L472[17:23:36] <aSourceFish> Minecraft 1.7.10 and earlier don't run at OpenBSD due to retard exception
L473[17:23:45] <aSourceFish> "Unknown platform: OpenBSD"
L474[17:24:00] <Kodos> Plus I have TTS with computronics alongside switches and lights
L475[17:24:21] <aSourceFish> that's why I don't downgrade to 1.7.10
L476[17:25:06] * Izaya summons S3
L477[17:25:32] <gamax92> ~markov S3
L478[17:25:33] <ocdoc> Yeah that pack as well like [ ] and don't bother me though
L479[17:25:44] <gamax92> Don't bother him
L480[17:28:03] <Forecaster> %restart
L481[17:28:04] <MichiBot> Forecaster: Must specify sub-command. (Try: No registered sub-commands.)
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L484[17:28:11] <CompanionCube> aSourceFish: anything can be solved with enough patching.
L485[17:28:17] <Forecaster> yeah, don't bother S3, definetly don't ping him
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L489[17:28:37] <Forecaster> %blame Forecaster
L490[17:28:58] * MichiBot blames Forecaster for adding an IBM 5100 to the inventory!
L491[17:29:04] <aSourceFish> CompanionCube: I don't know Java, so decompiling Minecraft is pointless
L492[17:38:20] <Izaya> Cobra MkIII get :D
L493[17:38:50] <AmandaC> Izaya: nice
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L496[17:39:46] <AmandaC> I'm thinking I'll save up for a type-7 next. I've currently got a hauler
L497[17:40:06] <AmandaC> It's a ways off though
L498[17:40:43] <AngelOfDeath> is there a trasposer for power/RF in OC
L499[17:41:07] <AngelOfDeath> or some way of doing it
L500[17:41:24] <AngelOfDeath> the adapter only give me the info
L501[17:41:44] <Skye> I don't think so?
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L503[17:42:33] <Izaya> what happens if I like
L504[17:42:35] <Izaya> don't pay a fine?
L505[17:42:44] <Skye> ??
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L508[17:43:00] <Forecaster> depends who wants you to pay the fine
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L511[17:43:10] <AngelOfDeath> the police come for you hahaha
L512[17:43:27] <Forecaster> I demand you pay a fine for saying that!
L513[17:43:34] <AngelOfDeath> lol
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L520[18:15:06] <AmandaC> Izaya: what'd you do that you got fined? (Allegedly)
L521[18:15:54] <Forecaster> maybe it's because he ignored a different fine!
L522[18:19:04] <Izaya> hit a shot coming out of dock
L523[18:19:16] <Izaya> ship rather
L524[18:19:36] <Forecaster> oh, I didn't realize you were talking about E:D
L525[18:19:37] <Forecaster> xD
L526[18:19:50] <Forecaster> if you don't pay a fine it eventually turns into a bounty I think
L527[18:20:05] <AngelOfDeath> warrent
L528[18:20:09] <AngelOfDeath> warrant
L529[18:20:30] <AmandaC> ... how bloody hard did you hit the ship? I've bumped people going in and out before, never noticed s fine come up
L530[18:20:46] <Forecaster> you get a fine if you're speeding, aka going above 100m/s
L531[18:20:58] <AmandaC> Uh.
L532[18:21:09] <AmandaC> Where do those show up?
L533[18:21:21] <Izaya> Transactions or whatever
L534[18:21:26] <Forecaster> system panel in the top right
L535[18:21:31] <Izaya> I hit the ship going along the lines of 300m/s
L536[18:21:43] <Forecaster> fines for the current system are in the transactions panel yeah
L537[18:22:07] <AmandaC> Transactions panel on the left screen?
L538[18:22:11] <Forecaster> yeah
L539[18:22:42] <Forecaster> but when you get them there's a notification in the top right panel, is what I meant
L540[18:23:02] <AmandaC> ... either I'm stupid, or stupid lucky. I've speeded a few times and had some light taps, and last I looked that screen was empty
L541[18:23:48] <Forecaster> if you're in another system fines may not show up for other systems, I'm not sure
L542[18:24:31] <AmandaC> I've mostly been bouncing between two systems, I'll take a look after a shower I think
L543[18:24:58] <AmandaC> Mine in one system, then jump 4ly to sell the stuff
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L545[18:37:31] <Izaya> can I get like
L546[18:37:39] <Izaya> a persistent crosshair in the middle of my screen all the time?
L547[18:39:07] <Forecaster> yeah
L548[18:39:14] <Forecaster> well a dot
L549[18:40:19] <Forecaster> I don't remember how off the top of my head though, and I'm about to go to bed
L550[18:49:11] <AmandaC> The system I sell the stuff in has no outstanding transactions... Just need to navigate around this bloody planet and I can check the one I mine in.
L551[18:50:09] <Izaya> I hate planets a lot.
L552[18:50:31] <Forecaster> almost makes you want some kind of star of death, so you could shoot them?
L553[18:52:47] <AmandaC> ... I must be stupid lucky
L554[18:53:00] <Kodos> For anyone who played it on 360, Total Miner is now on Steam
L555[18:53:08] <Kodos> And I just picked it up if you're looking for someone to play with
L556[18:53:09] <AmandaC> No outstanding transactions in either system
L557[18:53:37] <Forecaster> they can be dormant, I don't think they show up in the transaction screen then
L558[18:53:58] <Forecaster> or wait, it's bounties that go dormant, not fines
L559[18:56:13] <Kodos> Can you place bounties on players yet
L560[18:56:32] <AmandaC> Also, Izaya trick I figured out for the ring stations, the green side is the one your supposed to go though. At least, the NPCs seem to always follow that rule
L561[18:56:53] <Kodos> The icosa stations have lights, too
L562[18:57:26] <Forecaster> Kodos, no you can't
L563[18:57:45] <Forecaster> And you probably never will
L564[18:58:36] <Forecaster> Amanda that's true for all stations
L565[18:58:49] <AmandaC> Oh?
L566[18:58:51] <Forecaster> Green is in, red is exit
L567[18:59:24] <Forecaster> Thigh some of the larger ships have to go through the middle
L568[18:59:35] <Forecaster> Though*
L569[18:59:48] <AngelOfDeath> getStackInSlot(side:number, slot:number):table what are the numbers for each side
L570[19:00:28] <Forecaster> Check the sides API
L571[19:01:09] <Forecaster> local sides = require("sides")
L572[19:01:37] <Forecaster> print(sides.north)
L573[19:02:09] <AngelOfDeath> thank you
L574[19:04:04] <Forecaster> Now it is sleep time!
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L576[19:11:28] <AngelOfDeath> do i have to require slots aswell
L577[19:14:06] <AmandaC> Slot is the Minecraft slot number of the inventory. It's different for each block
L578[19:14:19] <AngelOfDeath> chest
L579[19:14:31] <AngelOfDeath> i wanna check the inventory
L580[19:14:38] <AngelOfDeath> edit new
L581[19:14:47] <AngelOfDeath> lol
L582[19:14:53] <Forecaster> They always start at 1
L583[19:15:24] <Forecaster> And go up to however many slots the inventory has
L584[19:15:28] <AngelOfDeath> getStackInSlot(sides.east, 1 )
L585[19:16:10] <Forecaster> That'd be the top left slot in a regular chest to the east
L586[19:16:28] <AngelOfDeath> its errors ?
L587[19:16:56] <AngelOfDeath> atempt to get slot nill value
L588[19:17:20] <AngelOfDeath> or is thios backwards again like the right is left and the left is right
L589[19:18:21] <Forecaster> East is east
L590[19:19:06] <AngelOfDeath> forgot component at the beginning now im getting another error im deffently doing it wrong
L591[19:19:37] <AngelOfDeath> http://tinyurl.com/yc5moq68
L592[19:19:39] <AngelOfDeath> http://tinyurl.com/y6vblpub
L593[19:19:51] <Forecaster> I'm definitely going to sleep now... Just returned to check something
L594[19:20:31] <Mimiru> that's not how this works.. at all..
L595[19:20:44] <Forecaster> Pretty sure component doesn't have that method
L596[19:20:48] <Mimiru> ^
L597[19:20:52] <Forecaster> You need an inventory controller
L598[19:21:06] <AngelOfDeath> thought that was just robots
L599[19:21:28] <Forecaster> Or a transposer
L600[19:21:34] <AngelOfDeath> http://tinyurl.com/yc238ua6
L601[19:21:57] <Mimiru> so local transposer = component.transposer (or whatever it's actual ingame name is)
L602[19:22:05] <Mimiru> then transposer.getStackInSlow(.....
L603[19:22:07] <AngelOfDeath> ah
L604[19:22:20] <Mimiru> errr Slot*
L605[19:22:23] <Forecaster> It's "transposer" yeah
L606[19:22:34] <Forecaster> Now, bed, really this time
L607[19:22:42] <AngelOfDeath> thank you have a good one
L608[19:23:02] <Mimiru> I'm playing with my Micro Projector... makes me want a full size one now.
L609[19:23:18] <Mimiru> currently watching Rogue One on my wall :D
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L611[19:40:14] <AmandaC> Well that was fun
L612[19:40:43] <AmandaC> Pirates tried to interrupt my fsd
L613[19:41:47] <AngelOfDeath> "net.minecraft.tileentity.TileEntityCommandBlock"
L614[19:41:57] <AngelOfDeath> is tehre a reason its disabled
L615[19:42:06] <AngelOfDeath> or just cause
L616[19:42:29] <Mimiru> because it would let non ops change command block commands
L617[19:42:49] <AngelOfDeath> k but theres no crash problem if i enable
L618[19:44:43] <AngelOfDeath> info update on commabd blocks i can exacute any ingame command with a commabd block say i put a currency plugin on my game can i remove money useing its commands ?
L619[19:47:53] <AmandaC> %choose cash out or be risky
L620[19:47:53] <MichiBot> AmandaC: cash out
L621[19:54:59] <AmandaC> Woot woot
L622[19:55:13] <AmandaC> 150k CR atm
L623[19:55:50] <AmandaC> Just another 900k to go!
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L630[21:35:44] <AmandaC> Anyway, night nerds
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L635[22:14:08] <Izaya> shipping stuff is good money
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L637[22:25:56] <Kodos> Whoo, I get new shoes just in time for Christmas
L638[22:33:24] <AngelOfDeath> how do i read from a specific translocator if i have 2
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L640[22:33:48] <AngelOfDeath> transposer
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L642[22:36:00] <Mimiru> local transposer1 = component.proxy(component.get("firest-few-uuidchars)) local transposer2 = component.proxy(component.get("etc..."))
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L647[23:56:05] <AngelOfDeath> does any one know if this program exists some where
L648[23:56:05] <AngelOfDeath> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Er90in7gV1I&t
L649[23:56:06] <MichiBot> Virtual storage on OpenComputers | length: 4m 2s | Likes: 3 Dislikes: 1 Views: 208 | by Gerasim Kolesnikov | Published On 16/9/2017
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