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L5[00:18:30] <Kodos> freack, what do you have against 1.12?
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L17[01:29:52] <Forecaster> AmandaC: from what I hear it's no worse than WordPress + Woocommerce
L18[01:36:17] <Forecaster> %fling
L19[01:36:17] * MichiBot flings free will in a random direction. It hits the ground near Dashkal
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L22[01:53:27] <Dudblockman> http://darwinawards.com/darwin/darwin2017-06.html
L23[02:03:30] <Forecaster> "He chose this router"
L24[02:03:33] <Forecaster> not sure if pun or typo
L25[02:04:49] <Forecaster> This is terribly written...
L26[02:04:54] <Forecaster> I hate it
L27[02:23:52] <Forecaster> %juggle 6
L28[02:23:52] * MichiBot juggles with tilda~, a rusted sword, inari's legs, a Hrmm bleh, rustbite, & shrimp brain
L29[02:23:53] * MichiBot drops a rusted sword which takes 5 damage
L30[02:23:54] * MichiBot drops inari's legs which takes 1 damage, inari's legs met a Pikachu and was shocked.
L31[02:23:55] * MichiBot drops a Hrmm bleh which takes 1 damage
L32[02:23:56] * MichiBot drops shrimp brain which takes 4 damage, shrimp brain tried to report a bug with no log and mysteriously vanished.
L33[02:23:57] <MichiBot> Not again...
L34[02:51:33] <Forecaster> %fling
L35[02:51:33] * MichiBot flings AmandaC's dead mouse in a random direction. It hits the ground near alFamaRt
L36[02:51:34] * MichiBot AmandaC's dead mouse melts into a puddle of unidentifiable goo.
L37[02:51:45] <Forecaster> woops
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L41[03:22:12] <Forecaster> %fling
L42[03:22:12] * MichiBot flings cookie in a random direction. It hits the ground near FR^2
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L49[04:29:18] <Forecaster> %fling
L50[04:29:18] * MichiBot flings true in a random direction. It hits the ground near Fridtjof
L51[04:29:26] <Forecaster> dammit
L52[04:29:53] <Forecaster> I have the worst of luck hitting people with things
L53[04:47:47] <AshIndigo> %fling
L54[04:47:48] * MichiBot flings a μHz μC in a random direction. It hits the ground near medsouz|offline
L55[04:48:02] <AshIndigo> %fling
L56[04:48:02] * MichiBot flings Forecaster's cares in a random direction. It hits the ground near Neo
L57[04:48:19] <AshIndigo> there goes your cares
L58[04:50:21] <Forecaster> no she collected them again and put them back in the inventory
L59[04:51:38] * AshIndigo applauds michibot for picking the stuff up
L60[04:51:58] <Forecaster> %fling AshIndigo
L61[04:51:58] * MichiBot flings a quantum hug in a random direction. It hits the ground near AshIndigo
L62[04:51:59] * MichiBot the quantum hug was claimed by a dragon and added to it's hoard.
L63[04:52:11] <Forecaster> curses
L64[04:52:27] <AshIndigo> %fling Forecaster
L65[04:52:27] * MichiBot flings a μHz μC in a random direction. It hits the ground near Forecaster
L66[04:52:28] * MichiBot the μHz μC gets lost in the woods and is never seen again.
L67[04:58:31] <Forecaster> %fling
L68[04:58:31] * MichiBot flings a broken Pearson etext in a random direction. It hits the ground near ds84182
L69[04:58:32] * MichiBot the broken Pearson etext angered a gnome and didn't put up enough of a fight.
L70[05:00:22] <AshIndigo> %stab gnome
L71[05:00:22] * MichiBot stabs gnome with chips and salsa doing [6] damage
L72[05:30:22] <Forecaster> %fling
L73[05:30:22] * MichiBot flings a pie in a random direction. It hits the ground near Vaht
L74[05:35:37] <Lizzy> %fling
L75[05:35:37] * MichiBot flings LiEat 4 in a random direction. It hits the ground near SpiritedDusty
L76[05:35:37] <AshIndigo> %fling
L77[05:35:38] * MichiBot flings a rusted sword in a random direction. It hits the ground near Renari
L78[05:35:39] * MichiBot the rusted sword ruptures and deflates.
L79[05:35:55] * AshIndigo doubts that its possible to actually hit someone
L80[05:36:33] <Forecaster> :P
L81[05:36:40] <Forecaster> %fling
L82[05:36:40] * MichiBot flings Pillows in a random direction. It hits the ground near simon816
L83[05:36:51] <AshIndigo> %fling MichiBot
L84[05:36:51] * MichiBot flings no tea in a random direction. It hits the ground near MichiBot
L85[05:37:00] <Forecaster> aw, that would've been perfect for it to hit there
L86[05:37:24] <AshIndigo> heh
L87[05:40:52] <Forecaster> %fling AshIndigo
L88[05:40:52] * MichiBot flings a cyberdeck in a random direction. It hits the ground near AshIndigo
L89[05:41:09] <AshIndigo> %fling the ground
L90[05:41:10] * MichiBot flings the keys to the Martian kingdom in a random direction. It hits the ground near the ground
L91[05:41:11] * MichiBot the keys to the Martian kingdom looked too much like a tooth and was claimed by the tooth-fairy.
L92[05:44:52] <Kodos> %juggle 4
L93[05:44:52] * MichiBot juggles with a Hrmm bleh, a dead lock, edible underwear, & rustbite
L94[05:44:53] * MichiBot drops a Hrmm bleh which takes 1 damage
L95[05:44:54] * MichiBot drops a dead lock which takes 5 damage, the dead lock falls into a chasm.
L96[05:44:55] <MichiBot> Fore!
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L101[06:01:43] <Izaya> gaaaah
L102[06:01:59] <Izaya> maybe I should set up a dedicated znc VM or something
L103[06:02:41] <Izaya> apparently every hour ZNC decides it's timed out, successfully quits, then spends 5 minutes connecting.
L104[06:04:00] <Izaya> wonder how much I could compress the logs, would be nice to burn them to a CD and hide it
L105[06:07:38] * AshIndigo slaps Izaya's znc
L106[06:07:55] <Izaya> it may be due to the year-long uptime
L107[06:08:01] <AshIndigo> maybe
L108[06:08:11] <Izaya> arch really isn't meant for that
L109[06:08:51] * AshIndigo hasnt tried keeping anything online for a year
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L111[06:11:00] <Izaya> I mean, I never intended to, it just kinda happened
L112[06:12:31] <Izaya> https://a.uguu.se/yTuco8gcMYgm_36633.png
L113[06:17:41] <AshIndigo> so close to 365 dys
L114[06:17:44] <AshIndigo> *days
L115[06:18:52] <Izaya> yeah I'm gonna leave it up for at least another 10
L116[06:18:56] <Lizzy> lol
L117[06:18:56] <Izaya> just for the number
L118[06:19:31] <AshIndigo> :D
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L120[06:23:13] <Forecaster> I'd never get up to a year
L121[06:23:26] <Forecaster> the power cuts out at least a few times a year it seems
L122[06:23:42] <Forecaster> and I don't have a backup power-supply
L123[06:23:47] <MGR> I'd never get up to a year because I do hardware maintenance every 6 months
L124[06:25:39] <AshIndigo> what kind of maitenance?
L125[06:25:47] <AshIndigo> air can?
L126[06:26:41] <Lizzy> nutron star
L127[06:26:49] <Lizzy> neutron star [Edited]
L128[06:27:04] <Forecaster> %fling
L129[06:27:04] * MichiBot flings LiEat 4 in a random direction. It hits the ground near Lumien
L130[06:27:58] <MGR> AshIndigo, yep
L131[06:28:35] <MGR> My dust filters always end up encrusted in dust
L132[06:30:46] <AshIndigo> %give MichiBot an air can
L133[06:30:46] * MichiBot accepts the air can and adds it to her inventory
L134[06:30:51] <AshIndigo> %fling
L135[06:30:51] * MichiBot flings a sparkly cloud that once was AshIndigo in a random direction. It hits the ground near UnRealDinnerbone
L136[06:30:52] * MichiBot the sparkly cloud that once was AshIndigo was loaned out to a friend and was never returned.
L137[06:32:00] <AshIndigo> %attack slap that friend
L138[06:32:01] * MichiBot slaps that friend with a pie doing [5] damage
L139[06:33:01] <Forecaster> you can just do %slap
L140[06:33:09] <Forecaster> %attack
L141[06:33:09] <MichiBot> Valid "attacks": stab, hit, shiv, strike, slap, poke, prod
L142[06:33:18] <Forecaster> all of those are also registered as aliases
L143[06:37:25] <Forecaster> %poke AshIndigo
L144[06:37:25] * MichiBot pokes AshIndigo with dragon-proof bunker doing [5] damage
L145[06:38:36] <SAL9000> sounds painful
L146[06:38:40] <Arcanitor> %inv add MichiBot a maclaurin series for sin(x)
L147[06:38:40] * MichiBot I can't put myself in my inventory silly.
L148[06:38:46] <Arcanitor> %inv add a maclaurin series for sin(x)
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L151[06:43:23] <MGR> https://loadingartist.com/comic/crime-pays/
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L154[06:45:47] * AshIndigo tosses a missile at the bunker
L155[06:46:28] <Arcanitor> !give MichiBot personal space
L156[06:46:54] <Arcanitor> %give MichiBot personal space
L157[06:46:55] * MichiBot accepts personal space and adds it to her inventory
L158[06:47:02] <Forecaster> Can you make a compete image of a Linux install you can just restore to if an update borks?
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L160[06:48:10] <Arcanitor> I would certainly hope so
L161[06:48:29] <Arcanitor> you can do it with windows
L162[06:48:31] * Arcanitor runs
L163[06:50:52] <Forecaster> well that doesn't help because I want an image of my ubuntu server
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L165[06:52:52] <Forecaster> https://loadingartist.com/comic/scientific-purrgress/
L166[06:54:53] <Arcanitor> is this a thing now then
L167[06:54:54] <Arcanitor> https://loadingartist.com/comic/dead-end/
L168[06:55:47] <Izaya> @Forecaster I cheat, that box is a laptop without a screen. It'll last like 6 hours without power even though it's almost 10 years old
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L171[07:03:21] <Forecaster> I'd very much like to update my server to a newer distribution, but I'm afraid things will break, and I definitely can't allow it to be down for more than a day
L172[07:03:58] <Forecaster> though maybe I should just get going with getting the new server set up...
L173[07:04:24] <ben_mkiv> if you know what you are doing the downtime is like one reboot?!
L174[07:05:07] * Izaya does not trust this box to come back up
L175[07:05:26] <MGR> Yeah, I'd be worried about that hard drive
L176[07:05:26] <Forecaster> ben_mkiv do I sound like I know what I'm doing? :P
L177[07:05:46] <ben_mkiv> ^_^
L178[07:06:27] <SAL9000> @Forecaster: What's your current setup? Distribution, disks, partitions, filesystems
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L180[07:07:29] <Forecaster> SAL9000 it's running Ubuntu Server 12, single disk, single partition (I think)
L181[07:10:44] <Forecaster> http://tinyurl.com/ybeqsz7v
L182[07:14:09] <SAL9000> @Forecaster: Please pastebin the output of 'mount'
L183[07:16:23] <Forecaster> https://hastebin.com/ogajejokat.hs
L184[07:16:34] <Izaya> @MGR, the hard drive isn't what I'm worried. Arch really isn't meant for servers and systemd stopped working like 250 days ago and I haven't done regular updates
L185[07:17:03] <MGR> Well, I know the hardware better than I know Arch, so I spoke about what I knew
L186[07:17:51] <MGR> But if stuff isn't working with the OS, I'd be concerned too
L187[07:17:56] <Izaya> fwiw, my desktop has two 10-year-old seagate HDDs and they're still fine. living on the edge
L188[07:18:00] <SAL9000> @Forecaster: OK, so you have boot on ext2, root on ext4 on (probably) LVM2 and file-based encrypted home
L189[07:18:09] <Izaya> systemd is inherently broken
L190[07:18:16] <Izaya> it's a feature of all lennartware
L191[07:18:32] <Forecaster> I have no idea, this is what the setup did all on it's own
L192[07:18:38] <SAL9000> try the command 'pvs' (to list LVM2 Physical Volumes)
L193[07:18:46] <Forecaster> I haven't messed with linux partitions or filesystems
L194[07:20:33] <Forecaster> SAL9000: http://tinyurl.com/y8437j6o
L195[07:21:02] <SAL9000> OK, that confirms a few things.
L196[07:21:46] <MGR> Izaya, are the disks in some form of RAID, or JBOD?
L197[07:22:24] <SAL9000> Single-disk system, probably BIOS-boot and MBR partition table; your /boot is the first primary partition while LVM2 (containing / ) is on the first logical partition.
L198[07:22:42] <Forecaster> I have no idea what that means :P
L199[07:23:01] <SAL9000> Alright, so you're planning on upgrading to a newer version of Ubuntu, I assume?
L200[07:23:14] <ben_mkiv> make a backup first
L201[07:23:19] <ben_mkiv> this all sounds like it may fail
L202[07:24:52] <Forecaster> ben_mkiv that's what this whole thing is about xD
L203[07:25:02] <SAL9000> ofc. I asked about cross-distro upgrades since I'm expecting the ubuntu upgrade thing to have a built-in backup of some kind
L204[07:25:18] <Forecaster> SAL9000, like the welcome screen says, Ubuntu 14 is on offer
L205[07:25:33] <Forecaster> it should be automatic, but I'm still scared it'll bork the server
L206[07:26:15] <ben_mkiv> one day ubuntu will offer windows to its users
L207[07:26:23] <ben_mkiv> and they wont even notice :P
L208[07:26:50] <Forecaster> I kind of doubt that
L209[07:27:01] <SAL9000> Looks like there's no built-in backup thing in the upgrader.
L210[07:27:13] <Forecaster> that's even worse
L211[07:27:21] <SAL9000> Alright. How far do you want to go with this?
L212[07:27:28] <Forecaster> what do you mean?
L213[07:27:38] <ben_mkiv> idk if its worse to assume that the users can do backups on their own
L214[07:28:20] <Izaya> MGR: It's just one HDD
L215[07:28:23] <SAL9000> You can, for example, make a bit-for-bit image of the disk and copy that to someplace. This would require at least as much space as is in use on your disk ATM, and allow fast restoration; however, it's a somewhat complex procedure requiring rebooting into a live system (since you can't back up the system from itself that way).
L216[07:28:43] <SAL9000> said amount of space must not be on the same disk, too.
L217[07:30:06] <Forecaster> I have plenty of external space
L218[07:30:08] <SAL9000> A simpler option would be to back up your data (/home), configuration (/etc) and set of user-installed packages (I don't remember where Ubuntu stores this). This requires less effort during backup, but more effort during restoration.
L219[07:30:25] <Forecaster> I have an empty 2TB usb harddrive
L220[07:30:33] <SAL9000> USB2, 3 or C?
L221[07:30:40] <Forecaster> 3
L222[07:30:51] <SAL9000> good. I assume you have a USB3 port and that it works on Linux.
L223[07:30:59] <Forecaster> no
L224[07:31:06] <SAL9000> backing up over USB2 would take a *while*
L225[07:31:17] <Forecaster> the server hardware is a few years old, I'm fairly sure it's all usb2
L226[07:31:21] <SAL9000> hmkay.
L227[07:31:30] <SAL9000> $ df -h
L228[07:31:32] <ben_mkiv> also backup /var
L229[07:31:34] <Izaya> USB2 isn't that bad
L230[07:31:42] <ben_mkiv> if you are interested in your sql databases or web roots :P
L231[07:31:43] <Forecaster> but the harddrive is really small in the server
L232[07:31:46] <Forecaster> there isn't that much
L233[07:31:56] <Izaya> you may want to tar+gz it while backing up
L234[07:32:00] <Izaya> so it has to write less to the disk
L235[07:32:10] <SAL9000> I haven't gotten to particular backup methodologies yet :-)
L236[07:32:24] <Izaya> or squashfs, squashfs is excellent for backups :D
L237[07:32:26] <Izaya> oh, sorry x_x
L238[07:32:31] <SAL9000> Which of the above options do you want to take? Disk image or file backups?
L239[07:32:32] <Forecaster> df: https://hastebin.com/mokogokixo.erl
L240[07:32:51] <SAL9000> OK, so you have 110G of stuff to back up (if you copy everything)
L241[07:33:04] <Forecaster> whichever is the least fiddly both out and in
L242[07:33:19] <Forecaster> I pretty much need everything
L243[07:33:19] <SAL9000> they're both fiddly in their own ways
L244[07:33:26] <Izaya> 110GB would only take a few hours over USB2 tops
L245[07:33:38] <Forecaster> that's fine
L246[07:33:38] <SAL9000> disk images are a bit harder to make, but restoration is simpler
L247[07:33:42] <MGR> Izaya, do you mean RAID 0?
L248[07:33:49] <MGR> Or spanning?
L249[07:33:52] <SAL9000> file backups are easier to make, but restoration requires more effort
L250[07:34:11] <Izaya> MGR, none of the above.
L251[07:34:16] <Forecaster> easier restoration is probably preferable
L252[07:34:19] <ben_mkiv> how is restore simpler for a dd image if he ends up with a new system on his hard disk? Oo
L253[07:34:25] <Forecaster> since I may do that multiple times
L254[07:34:32] <Izaya> It's just a btrfs-formatted MBR partition
L255[07:34:39] <ben_mkiv> just tar.gz everything you need to some external drive
L256[07:34:41] <SAL9000> ben_mkiv: this is for rollback, not 'restore'
L257[07:34:46] <Forecaster> ^
L258[07:34:54] <ben_mkiv> ok for rollback its easier
L259[07:35:06] <MGR> Izaya, but you have 2 drives
L260[07:35:08] <Izaya> use squashfs not a tar, you can mount it to the filesystem :D
L261[07:35:11] <Izaya> MGR, but I don't
L262[07:35:20] <SAL9000> Izaya: I'm pretty sure there's a tarfs-fuse out there somewhere :P
L263[07:35:21] <Izaya> oh you mean my desktop?
L264[07:35:28] <MGR> <Izaya> fwiw, my desktop has two 10-year-old seagate HDDs and they're still fine. living on the edge
L265[07:36:01] <Izaya> I use one as a Steam library and the other is half Linux and half more Steam library
L266[07:36:08] <SAL9000> @Forecaster: Do you have a Ubuntu install image handy?
L267[07:36:26] <MGR> So they're JBOD
L268[07:36:28] <MGR> Ok
L269[07:36:51] <Forecaster> SAL9000: uh, no
L270[07:36:57] <Forecaster> but I can make one if I need to
L271[07:37:00] <Lizzy> @Forecaster go get one
L272[07:37:04] <SAL9000> Not yet.
L273[07:37:10] <SAL9000> There's two options I wanted to recommend;
L274[07:37:15] <Izaya> ... ._.
L275[07:37:32] <SAL9000> 1) Seems there's a GNOME tool for partition management which also does disk images. https://askubuntu.com/questions/19901/how-to-make-a-disk-image-and-restore-from-it-later/589060#589060
L276[07:37:33] <Izaya> Louis Rossman streamed the Mac High Sierra bug
L277[07:37:48] <Izaya> Someone brought in a machine with a caterpillar in it
L278[07:37:55] <SAL9000> 2) There's a dedicated tool which does a lot more. This one I've used myself, but it might be a bit bewildering. http://clonezilla.org/
L279[07:37:57] <Arcanitor> why can't mac os just use version numbers
L280[07:38:10] <AmandaC> Arcanitor: they do, but people prefer the code names
L281[07:38:11] <Izaya> Arcanitor: because the hipsters and stuff wouldn't like that
L282[07:38:20] <Izaya> so they use the names in marketing rather than the versions
L283[07:38:21] <AmandaC> high serria is 10.12 or so
L284[07:38:33] <SAL9000> Arcanitor: https://xkcd.com/1056/
L285[07:38:33] <MichiBot> XKCD Comic Name: Felidae Posted on: 5/16/2012
L286[07:38:42] <ben_mkiv> just boot from a livecd and move everything to /oldRoot
L287[07:38:46] <ben_mkiv> and then install without formating :P
L288[07:39:03] <Izaya> the fact that they have both Sierra and High Sierra causes significant confusion at work
L289[07:39:12] <Izaya> because the people using Macs are the less technical people
L290[07:39:12] <Forecaster> ben_mkiv: I'm not installing anything. It's an upgrade.
L291[07:39:17] <MGR> Lol
L292[07:39:33] <SAL9000> ben_mkiv: but what if the upgrade borks hard enough to nuke the filesystem or partition table?
L293[07:39:43] <Izaya> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPHyACUNcRM relevant bug
L294[07:39:43] <MichiBot> mac high sierra bug | length: 18m 56s | Likes: 260 Dislikes: 30 Views: 7,333 | by Louis Rossmann | Published On 30/11/2017
L295[07:40:08] <SAL9000> @Forecaster: Take a look at http://clonezilla.org/screenshots/?in_path=/00_Clonezilla and tell me whether it's 'too scary' :-)
L296[07:40:11] <ben_mkiv> SAL9000 then its testdisk and photorec what will keep him busy for a while :P
L297[07:40:41] <Forecaster> looks fine
L298[07:40:43] <SAL9000> ben_mkiv: I've done that before, it ain't fun.
L299[07:40:47] <ben_mkiv> ^^
L300[07:40:52] <Forecaster> ben_mkiv I don't want to be busy
L301[07:40:59] <ben_mkiv> xD
L302[07:41:00] <Forecaster> ideally the upgrade will work perfectly
L303[07:41:03] <SAL9000> @Forecaster: OK, so Clonezilla comes as a live image of it's own; do you know how to make a bootusb from a boot-disk image?
L304[07:41:19] <Forecaster> but if it doesn't I want a whole backup of the server so I can restore it quickly
L305[07:41:37] <Forecaster> SAL9000: sure, I've got programs for that at home
L306[07:41:47] <SAL9000> http://clonezilla.org/liveusb.php
L307[07:41:53] * ben_mkiv uses acronis true image
L308[07:41:58] <ben_mkiv> because i'm a lazy fool :P
L309[07:42:07] <Forecaster> there's no usb-drive plugged into my computer at home right now though so I can't do anything
L310[07:42:11] <SAL9000> ben_mkiv: I got an OEM copy of that with my new laptop :-)
L311[07:42:23] <Izaya> acronis?
L312[07:42:29] <Izaya> disk imaging tool?
L313[07:42:31] <ben_mkiv> it should come with a iso file for a boot cd / boot stick
L314[07:42:31] <SAL9000> @Forecaster: Sure, you can poke me later :)
L315[07:42:39] <SAL9000> Izaya: Yeah, proprietary disk imaging thing.
L316[07:42:41] <ben_mkiv> which boots a simple GUI to backup to usb/samba/whatever
L317[07:42:51] <Izaya> can't decide whether "cool" or "eww"
L318[07:42:54] <SAL9000> the important bit in my case is that it can deal with moving Win10 between disks "safely"
L319[07:43:00] <SAL9000> otherwise I'd use something else
L320[07:43:08] <ben_mkiv> Izaya, nothing you cant do without it. but its handy
L321[07:43:13] <ben_mkiv> and i got it for free, too. so...
L322[07:43:16] <Lizzy> i've used dd to move a windows install before
L323[07:43:36] * Izaya can use disk destroyer well enough
L324[07:44:01] <SAL9000> haha, disk destroyer. reminds me of the time I accidentally my entire OS from the initrd recovery shell
L325[07:44:06] <SAL9000> (luckily that was a test system)
L326[07:44:45] <Izaya> useful command: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX bs=1M count=16
L327[07:44:51] <Izaya> will nuke your bootloader and partition table
L328[07:45:21] <SAL9000> iirc that won't nuke GPT's backup
L329[07:45:40] <Izaya> well, that's a pain
L330[07:45:46] <Izaya> good thing I don't have any reason to use GPT
L331[07:45:46] <ben_mkiv> it will kill the mbr which most people wont be able to restore
L332[07:46:24] <ben_mkiv> guess GPT somehow also uses the mbr to get the start address
L333[07:46:49] <SAL9000> Izaya: but support for 256 partitions without "logical partition" bullshit and support for >=2TB disks
L334[07:47:22] <SAL9000> ben_mkiv: I'm reasonably sure that the pMBR (or hybrid-MBR as the case may be) is not at all required to read a GPT header.
L335[07:47:24] <Izaya> SAL9000: I don't own a - wait yest I have 5 3TB disks but none of them are primary
L336[07:47:42] <ben_mkiv> all my disks dont have a single partition
L337[07:47:48] <ben_mkiv> partitions are overrated
L338[07:48:02] <Forecaster> Ideally I'd jump ship from this server to the new one with better hardware and a 2TB drive in it
L339[07:48:07] <SAL9000> ben_mkiv: eww, you're running in superfloppy mode?!
L340[07:48:09] <MGR> GPT is nice
L341[07:48:15] <MGR> More forwards looking
L342[07:48:17] <Forecaster> but I've been playing with Docker on that, and it's not complete yet
L343[07:48:19] <Izaya> all of my other boxes have 500GB or smaller disks because I don't buy them I just get them for free
L344[07:48:23] <ben_mkiv> i'm booting from USB to non partitioned disks
L345[07:48:36] <ben_mkiv> just formated the whole disk
L346[07:48:40] <SAL9000> suffice to say that superfloppy is not well-supported.
L347[07:49:03] <Izaya> ben_mkiv: that's horrifying but if it works for you... \o/
L348[07:49:11] <SAL9000> (not in that it doesn't work -- I mean that forum/IRC support is likely to go "wtf" instead of helping)
L349[07:49:21] <ben_mkiv> Izaya, how is it horrifying? it works for >10 years now :>
L350[07:49:43] <ben_mkiv> partitions dont help with anything xD
L351[07:49:52] <Izaya> ben_mkiv: I mean, you have a point
L352[07:49:59] <Izaya> Still it's just
L353[07:50:06] <ben_mkiv> yea, its not very common
L354[07:50:13] <Izaya> yeah
L355[07:50:19] <Arcanitor> what is "superfloppy"
L356[07:50:20] <Izaya> consider this a general wtf
L357[07:50:25] <AmandaC> swap partition woul dbe usefil for anything other than a server
L358[07:50:26] <payonel> what's uncommon?
L359[07:50:31] <AmandaC> so you can suspend-to-disk
L360[07:50:34] <ben_mkiv> AmandaC, swap to file :>
L361[07:50:44] <Izaya> AmandaC: only my servers have swap partitions
L362[07:50:46] <MGR> Wow, something that's too crazy even for Izaya :p
L363[07:50:52] <ben_mkiv> and preallocate on normal hard disks
L364[07:50:52] <AmandaC> last I heard suspend-to-disk didn't work with swap files
L365[07:51:08] <Izaya> AmandaC: you need to specify what area on the disk it uses IIRC
L366[07:51:09] <ben_mkiv> cant tell, i dont use swap
L367[07:51:18] <ben_mkiv> but sounds legit
L368[07:51:27] <SAL9000> Arcanitor: it's pretty much another name for formatting a whole disk directly (w/o a partition table)
L369[07:51:50] <ben_mkiv> oh, didnt knew that theres a term for that
L370[07:51:55] * Arcanitor wishes he knew how to do partitioning on windows
L371[07:52:06] <SAL9000> 1) Don't do it
L372[07:52:08] <SAL9000> 2) Don't do it
L373[07:52:16] <SAL9000> 3) There's a control panel applet if you really REALLY need to
L374[07:52:27] <Arcanitor> what if dual-boot linux
L375[07:52:28] <Izaya> 4) I have a crossbow for afterwards if you need it
L376[07:52:33] <Arcanitor> and have only one hard-drive
L377[07:52:46] <Izaya> Arcanitor: defrag then partition from linux
L378[07:52:56] <Izaya> much saner
L379[07:52:57] <MGR> I've done partitions on Windows many times
L380[07:53:01] <MGR> It's not that hard
L381[07:53:08] <AmandaC> It's finicky as fuck though
L382[07:53:24] <AmandaC> Microsoft very much seems to have left those decisions mostly up to OEMs
L383[07:53:25] <MGR> I haven't had problems \o/
L384[07:53:34] <Izaya> I have disks that Windows refuses to look at because of various reasons
L385[07:53:43] <SAL9000> Arcanitor: boot from a linux livecd/liveusb and do whatever partitioning you need from there, after defragging any NTFShit partitions as Izaya said
L386[07:53:47] <Arcanitor> I need to shrink the existing 1TB partition though
L387[07:54:14] <Arcanitor> also, are there any fs that are compatible with both linux and windows
L388[07:54:16] <Lizzy> if you use gparted, it can move the data to shrink the partition if needs be
L389[07:54:18] <Arcanitor> and can be RW by both
L390[07:54:19] <MGR> Disk Management utility
L391[07:54:26] <SAL9000> FAT32
L392[07:54:31] <Izaya> Arcanitor: NTFS works, usually. FAT32/similar usually works too.
L393[07:54:36] <Arcanitor> FAT32 only supports up to like what 2GB?
L394[07:54:37] <Lizzy> Arcanitor, FAT32, ntfs generally
L395[07:54:41] <SAL9000> less supported: NTFS, exFAT, ext2
L396[07:54:57] <Izaya> If you're running Windows 8 and above you'll want to turn off fast startup to be able to write to your NTFS boot partition
L397[07:55:07] <SAL9000> i.e. there are 3rd-party R/W drivers for Windows which can deal with ext2 (kinda)
L398[07:55:18] <Lizzy> or just 'restart'-shutdown windows
L399[07:55:20] <SAL9000> Izaya: that or make sure to reboot rather than shutdown (iirc)
L400[07:55:22] <MGR> Why not a Linux VM?
L401[07:55:34] <SAL9000> real hardware is superior to VM
L402[07:55:44] <Arcanitor> so that i can run games on it?
L403[07:55:47] <MGR> That is true
L404[07:55:47] <SAL9000> that too
L405[07:55:52] <Arcanitor> vm's don't allow direct hardware access
L406[07:55:52] <payonel> anyone use modloader?
L407[07:55:59] <Arcanitor> a lot of rendering things need direct hardware access
L408[07:55:59] <SAL9000> and you CAN have your cake and eat it too in that respect
L409[07:56:05] <Izaya> SAL9000: that's a pain if you then need to boot to windows then reboot back to linux to write to it
L410[07:56:08] <Arcanitor> otherwise I would run windows in a VM instead
L411[07:56:10] <MGR> Virtual box allows 3D acceleration I think
L412[07:56:12] <SAL9000> I'm currently running a dual-boot linux system in a VM
L413[07:56:14] <Forecaster> %fling
L414[07:56:14] * MichiBot flings cookies in a random direction. It hits the ground near dustinm`
L415[07:56:14] <Lizzy> Arcanitor, they can have direct hw access (aka passthrough)
L416[07:56:19] <Forecaster> damn
L417[07:56:22] <payonel> Arcanitor: they can
L418[07:56:22] <Izaya> vbox and vmware 3D acceleration is nowhere as good as hardware accel
L419[07:56:23] <SAL9000> @MGR that checkbox doesn't actually do anything though
L420[07:56:26] <Lizzy> @MGR it does, but it's not that powerfull
L421[07:56:32] <Arcanitor> %give MichiBot cookie crumbs
L422[07:56:33] * MichiBot accepts cookie crumbs and adds it to her inventory
L423[07:56:39] <MGR> Ah
L424[07:56:43] <Lizzy> you'll get much better performance from doing a gpu passthrough
L425[07:56:45] <Izaya> as in I'm pretty sure this dead Voodoo 3 on my desk is better at 3D than either
L426[07:56:52] <SAL9000> Heh.
L427[07:56:53] <Arcanitor> I looked up GPU passthrough
L428[07:56:58] <Arcanitor> I was very confused
L429[07:57:08] <Lizzy> it is quite complex to set up
L430[07:57:14] <Izaya> tfw everything in my system except my CPU support VT-d
L431[07:57:16] <SAL9000> It's a pretty complex subject, especially since NVIDIA is actively resisting it on their GTX series.
L432[07:57:27] <Izaya> NVIDIA can go to hell tbh
L433[07:57:36] <Saphire> ...huh
L434[07:57:41] <Izaya> New AMD cards are pretty solid and the FOSS driver stack works wonderfully.
L435[07:57:44] <Saphire> That https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/2650 is cute
L436[07:57:49] <Arcanitor> I go to an "IT school" that doesnt teach anything about linux
L437[07:57:53] * Temia coffeesip
L438[07:57:59] <SAL9000> I don't think anyone here learnt Linux in school, Arcanitor
L439[07:58:01] <payonel> Saphire: how is it cute?
L440[07:58:03] <MGR> Nvidia is the fastest though
L441[07:58:04] <Temia> Resist all they want, I still got one up on them.
L442[07:58:16] <Saphire> ...I mean, he didn't went "oh well" but actually went and bought the copy of game after discovering he was using a pirated one o..o
L443[07:58:22] <Temia> And thanks to changing my VM's vendor ID to "infelnenesha", I can safely say my system is... Infel Inside.
L444[07:58:27] <Temia> `w`
L445[07:58:29] <payonel> Saphire: oh i know! i was quite impressed
L446[07:58:34] <Saphire> Yup
L447[07:59:09] <Saphire> "a son of mine told me to use it" sounds like someone is gotta have their ears ranted off maybe o..o
L448[07:59:12] <Izaya> Gonna be getting a better job soon hopefully
L449[07:59:18] <Saphire> Izaya: yay?
L450[07:59:20] <SAL9000> yay!
L451[07:59:24] <payonel> Saphire: are you familiar with modloader?
L452[07:59:26] <Izaya> so within like a year of casual work I might be able to afford a TALOS II box
L453[07:59:34] <Forecaster> modloader? wut
L454[07:59:37] <Saphire> payonel: mmm, in what way?
L455[07:59:39] <Izaya> this is while doing TAFE too
L456[07:59:45] <payonel> well i never used it
L457[07:59:45] <Saphire> And WHICH one?
L458[07:59:47] <Lizzy> \o/ then you can give me some money for your server ? (jk ? )
L459[07:59:52] <Forecaster> you mean fml?
L460[08:00:02] <SAL9000> ...do you mean the Ye Olde pre-Forge modloader?
L461[08:00:04] <Saphire> payonel: X Y problem <.<
L462[08:00:09] <Izaya> delete meta-inf
L463[08:00:10] <Saphire> What do you want to do?
L464[08:00:19] <Saphire> Izaya: *shiver*
L465[08:00:25] <payonel> what is the modloader that strips the manifest from the jar?
L466[08:00:27] <Saphire> "replace N files?"
L467[08:00:35] <Mimiru> Modloader, that's a name I've not heard in a long time.
L468[08:00:41] <Arcanitor> I have a better solution
L469[08:00:44] <Saphire> payonel: ...why?
L470[08:00:49] <MGR> Yes Obi Wan :)
L471[08:00:51] <Arcanitor> use forge and grab the latest download from curse
L472[08:00:52] <payonel> because #2650 is using it
L473[08:01:08] <Saphire> ...I think you mean FML?
L474[08:01:22] <Forecaster> aka Forge Modloader
L475[08:01:28] <SAL9000> ^ Yeah, I don't think Risu's ML got updated this far.
L476[08:01:39] <Mimiru> "modloader" died long ago, it was replaced by FML
L477[08:01:48] <Saphire> Yah
L478[08:01:56] <Mimiru> I see "Modinstaller" reported in that screenshot
L479[08:01:59] <Izaya> inb4 the only thing using real modloader is Better than Wolves
L480[08:01:59] <Saphire> Modern "modloader" is actually part of forge
L481[08:02:06] <Saphire> Izaya: ehhh
L482[08:02:11] <Saphire> Direct JAR editing afaik?
L483[08:02:13] <SAL9000> isn't BTW not updated anymore either?
L484[08:02:20] <Izaya> unsure
L485[08:02:21] <Saphire> SAL9000: it's undead
L486[08:02:48] <Arcanitor> maybe he's using skydaz or one of a number of other "mod installers"
L487[08:02:57] <SAL9000> ...if an undead human is a zombie, what is an undead mod?
L488[08:03:02] <payonel> the reason i thought it was the OLD modloader is because i THOUGHT the old one stripped the META-INF/
L489[08:03:15] <Izaya> a zod?
L490[08:03:18] <SAL9000> :P
L491[08:03:27] <Arcanitor> an abandoned fork?
L492[08:03:41] <payonel> is there a tool that does that?
L493[08:03:46] <payonel> ok, here's my issue
L494[08:03:46] <Lizzy> payonel, no, with the old pre-forge modloader _you_ stripped the META-INF from the minecraft har ?
L495[08:03:52] <SAL9000> s/har/jar/
L496[08:03:52] <MichiBot> <Lizzy> payonel, no, with the old pre-forge modloader _you_ stripped the META-INF from the minecraft jar ?
L497[08:04:00] <payonel> @lizzy ah
L498[08:04:04] <payonel> ok, but same crap then
L499[08:04:06] <payonel> maybe?
L500[08:04:10] <payonel> anyways, here's the deal
L501[08:04:42] <payonel> 1. the mod FILENAME is named OpenComputers.jar ... with no version. But loads as 1.7.0.20 [our latest (R)elease for 1.12
L502[08:04:44] <payonel> so what renamed it?
L503[08:04:48] <payonel> it has no META-INF
L504[08:04:51] <Mimiru> Honestly it sounds like he grabbed these files when he was using cracked MC, bought mc, and then moved the janky cracked mods over
L505[08:05:03] <payonel> and, the class files have different shas, which is scary (so i ran it in a vm :P )
L506[08:05:05] <Mimiru> So.... who knows where the janky files came from.
L507[08:05:07] <Mimiru> and they'
L508[08:05:14] <SAL9000> Mimiru: btw, I just remembered -- Corded's handling of long messages & edits interacts in a probably-undesirable manner. Specifically, if a long (pastebin'ed) message is edited, the [Edited] tag is pastebin'd as well, rather than being present in Corded's direct output. The latter would allow us to realise that a given message isn't new without clicking the link :)
L509[08:05:17] <Mimiru> re likely all trash
L510[08:05:28] <payonel> Mimiru: sure, but from _where_ ?
L511[08:05:48] <Mimiru> Who knows, theres THOUSANDS of sites that rehost and modify peoples work.. I've found my mods on lots of them
L512[08:06:02] <AmandaC> probably the same place they got the cracked MC
L513[08:06:05] <Mimiru> ^
L514[08:06:05] <payonel> if he had not sent me the zip, i would never have known
L515[08:06:26] <payonel> would have been a serious pain in the butt to troubleshoot
L516[08:06:32] <Mimiru> This is why lots of authors are doing the annoying signature checks..
L517[08:06:44] <Mimiru> I wanna stab them.. but I understand it.
L518[08:07:02] <AmandaC> doesn't Forge have some kind of signature verification built in now?
L519[08:07:37] <Mimiru> (I also get a number of tickets "Why doesn't your mod work in *latest MC version*?"... cause that mod is for 1.7.10.. but I see you picked that up on 9minecraft and they renamed it to 1.14.999
L520[08:07:39] <Mimiru> )*
L521[08:08:05] <payonel> how frustrating ^
L522[08:08:13] <Arcanitor> could you somehow tag the curse downloads
L523[08:08:27] <Arcanitor> so that they can be easily distinguished
L524[08:08:42] <AmandaC> Arcanitor: that doesn't stop spam-ad websites like 9minecrft from downloading the 1.7.10 version and renaming it and googlebombing it for 1.12
L525[08:10:46] <AmandaC> In case it wasn't clear, they're not likining to the curse download, or even an offical jenkins or whatev. They're rehosting it and googlebombing it as supported for every version of minecraft under the sun
L526[08:10:55] <AmandaC> linking*
L527[08:11:21] <Saphire> Hmm
L528[08:11:37] <Arcanitor> ja I know how 9minecraft works
L529[08:11:58] ⇦ Quits: Izaya (~Izaya@210-1-213-55-cpe.spintel.net.au) (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in)
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L531[08:12:20] <Saphire> ...why is nuclear power considered bad, or nukes or even weapon, when it's actually the people who fucked up with use of those things?
L532[08:12:36] <Arcanitor> people with fingers in the pie
L533[08:13:07] <Arcanitor> nuclear power competes with other types of power and people who don't have a finger in the nuclear pie probably spend quite a bit of money demonizing it
L534[08:13:07] <Izaya> Saphire: people considered harmful
L535[08:13:20] <ben_mkiv> because journalists are stupid af and cant explain it so that people understand
L536[08:14:10] <payonel> Saphire: part of the reason is that for decades the investment in nuclear power focused on fuel enrichment processes that also contributed to nuclear weapons research
L537[08:14:29] * Saphire sighs
L538[08:14:32] <Mimiru> :( my arduino/pwm shield/battery/buck boost are too big to fit the box I need them in.
L539[08:14:35] <Saphire> ...why world is so fucked up?
L540[08:14:59] <Izaya> Big question.
L541[08:15:06] <AmandaC> Saphire: I'm becoming increasingly convinced the illuminati is real, and their plans are finally coming into motion as 2017 goes on
L542[08:15:34] <Saphire> Heh..
L543[08:15:37] <Izaya> I'm inclined to believe that this is just how it'd happen naturally.
L544[08:15:45] <Saphire> ...that would make way too much sense sadly
L545[08:15:47] <AmandaC> Izaya: I can't be /that/ cynical
L546[08:16:14] <SAL9000> https://xkcd.com/1274/
L547[08:16:14] <MichiBot> XKCD Comic Name: Open Letter Posted on: 10/7/2013
L548[08:16:17] <SAL9000> very relevant ^
L549[08:16:23] <Izaya> AmandaC: I've ended up increasingly cynical lately and I'm much happier due to it.
L550[08:16:27] <Izaya> I know who to blame for it, too.
L551[08:17:04] <Mimiru> It's me.. isn't it.
L552[08:17:32] <Arcanitor> what is a buck boost Mimiru
L553[08:17:41] <Izaya> Nah, you're positively optimistic compared to some people I know. :D
L554[08:18:12] <Izaya> SAL9000: >doesn't include the Knights of the Lambda Calculus
L555[08:18:15] <Mimiru> DC-DC voltage regulator, that can boost voltage
L556[08:18:29] <Arcanitor> ooh neat
L557[08:18:29] <SAL9000> Izaya: "everyone else who secretly controls the US government"
L558[08:18:31] <Mimiru> ATM 3.7v in, 10.5v out
L559[08:18:37] <Izaya> SAL9000: buh
L560[08:18:39] <Izaya> no fun
L561[08:18:59] <SAL9000> would be nice to have a dilbert-style write-in option though
L562[08:19:06] <SAL9000> add your own to:
L563[08:19:15] <SAL9000> s/to:/to: list/
L564[08:19:15] <MichiBot> <SAL9000> add your own to: list
L565[08:19:39] * Izaya applies the magic of mail merge
L566[08:20:07] <Mimiru> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00J03PBW0/ I'm using this one ATM
L567[08:20:53] <Izaya> oh haruhi christmas is coming up
L568[08:20:55] <Izaya> pls no
L569[08:21:06] <Forecaster> It definitely sounds like non official downloads
L570[08:21:32] <Izaya> all I want for christmas is a bunker to hide from christmas
L571[08:21:39] <Forecaster> They are often renamed or presented as the wrong versions
L572[08:21:40] <Mimiru> total current draw inc the boost is .3amps with the RGB LEDs at white
L573[08:23:34] <Arcanitor> what are you doing with this collection of electronics?
L574[08:24:30] <Mimiru> http://tinyurl.com/y9ftrfbt
L575[08:25:32] <Mimiru> I'm controlling LEDs for.. reasons :P
L576[08:26:57] <SAL9000> dynamic bias lighting?
L577[08:28:00] <Mimiru> https://imgur.com/gallery/OKgJE
L578[08:28:03] <Mimiru> And no
L579[08:28:06] <Mimiru> anyway
L580[08:28:07] <Mimiru> work
L581[08:33:37] <Forecaster> Mimiru: Obligatory "It's alive!"?
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L583[08:42:34] <Forecaster> does the fact that I keep clicking "I am a bad person" on the RPS adblock popup to get rid of it without hesitating make me a bad person?
L584[08:43:30] <Lizzy> depends on what kind of ads the site has
L585[08:43:57] <Forecaster> I have no idea, I don't see them :P
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L587[08:44:19] zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L588[08:44:21] <Lizzy> lol
L589[08:45:00] <SAL9000> @Forecaster: which adblock are you using?
L590[08:45:20] <SAL9000> I'm using uBlock Origin and I don't see the anti-adblock popups on RPS
L591[08:45:28] <Forecaster> http://tinyurl.com/yctk4hot
L592[08:45:39] <Forecaster> I have AdBlock at work
L593[08:45:47] <payonel> haha, nice bear
L594[08:46:32] <vifino> privacy badger plug!
L595[08:48:03] <Lizzy> on my phone i use an app called Adguard. since i started using it it has prevented the loading of 55.32GB worth of ads
L596[08:48:53] <vifino> you must visit a lot of porn sites to get that many ads
L597[08:49:02] <ben_mkiv> did it calculate that by downloading the ads? :P
L598[08:49:08] <vifino> or like one news site.
L599[08:49:40] <ben_mkiv> lizzy that app sounds like scam
L600[08:49:47] <Lizzy> ?
L601[08:49:59] <ben_mkiv> how does it know how much data it didnt download?
L602[08:50:22] <Lizzy> that is an estimate on how much bandwidth has been saved
L603[08:50:32] <Lizzy> i know it blocks the ads because they don't appear in apps
L604[08:50:51] <S3> Don't fear the moon cow!
L605[08:52:26] <Arcanitor> probably based on media resolution, runtime, and format
L606[08:53:36] <S3> It's funny because ads shouldn't be a big deal but people make them annoying
L607[08:53:49] <Lizzy> also stuff loads a LOT faster when it doesn't have the ads to load/render
L608[08:54:08] <S3> it wasn't very long ago when movies in the movie theatures had commercial breaks during the movie and people didn't really complain
L609[08:54:10] <Lizzy> if all sites had simple, static ads I would not run ad-blocker
L610[08:54:24] <vifino>
L611[08:54:29] <S3> but now people are like HEY IM AN AD IM AN AD IN YO FACE
L612[08:54:40] <Lizzy> and sites which i see that only have the static ads i do whitelist
L613[08:55:33] <Lizzy> well, whitelist on my pc. i don't actually use my phone that much for standard web browsing
L614[08:55:54] <Lizzy> it's mainly just whatsapp, twitter and discord these days
L615[08:55:59] <S3> you'd think they'd come up with a way to load the site first and the ads as a standard
L616[08:56:10] <S3> but not make them the ones that annoyingly pop up or make sounds
L617[08:56:25] <S3> don't you hate it when you're reading something and all of a sudden you hear a commercial in some random tab
L618[08:56:41] <Lizzy> yes
L619[08:56:44] <S3> 90% of the time a speaker icon tells you at least what tab it is, but sometimes it doesn't...
L620[08:56:45] <Lizzy> i fucking hate that shit
L621[08:56:55] <S3> and if you see it you have to then find it
L622[08:57:19] <S3> it's ridiculous how you can have a tab open for hours sometimes before that shit happens
L623[08:57:31] <Lizzy> it's even more annoying when you're watching a normal video on the same tab, because then you can't just mute the tab to get rid of it
L624[08:57:47] <S3> oh yeah and you hear it over the video, yeah.
L625[08:57:59] <S3> I had that problem once, went down and paused it, it played again 5 minutes later over my video
L626[08:58:11] <S3> somewhere else on the page
L627[08:58:31] <Lizzy> yeah, because some sites have a 'rota' of ads that cycle through every now and then
L628[08:58:57] <S3> dumb
L629[08:59:15] <S3> I understand why websites have ads and I have nothing against ads. I am against annoying.
L630[08:59:17] <Michiyo> bleh.
L631[08:59:18] <Michiyo> work.
L632[08:59:28] <S3> also, sites liuke adf.ly are horrifying
L633[08:59:38] <S3> and I get mad at people who use them
L634[09:00:01] <Lizzy> i hate adf.ly with a passion
L635[09:00:30] <Lizzy> even more so when people make it so that the adf.ly links can't be skipped when you have adblock on
L636[09:00:43] <Lizzy> i think the most recent annoyance with this was when i was trying to get shaders
L637[09:01:40] <Lizzy> quite funnily after i got through the adf.ly link i was presented with a download page on the same site as i clicked the original link on. they also had directory listing on so i just used that to get the other files
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L639[09:03:33] <vifino> God dammit, I am incredibly annoyed that one of my favourite songs has no lyrics for it publicly available.
L640[09:03:41] <vifino> >:(
L641[09:03:52] <SAL9000> ...so add them?
L642[09:03:59] <S3> Lizzy: A huge problem with adf.ly are the thousands of poor innocent people who end up with spyware and crap from those kind of sites
L643[09:04:19] <vifino> I'm too german to make proper lyrics, SAL9000.
L644[09:04:28] <SAL9000> Uh.
L645[09:04:31] <Lizzy> S3 yeah, quite a few times an ad on that site has tried to redirect me to another site
L646[09:04:52] <S3> and people who have never seen adfly before and are presented with a giant "download here" button on the center of the page
L647[09:05:02] <S3> from some ad
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L649[09:05:33] <SAL9000> it's not just adfly though
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L651[09:05:52] <SAL9000> pretty much any site, sometimes including software vendors, can end up with a randomly allocated ad containing a download button
L652[09:06:12] <S3> It's too bad really, evem source forge has gotten downhill, if I had ads on my site and I knew that ads with 50 download buttons in 5 different colors were on my download pages, I'd have to pull the plug
L653[09:06:38] <vifino> S3: SF is terrible anyways.
L654[09:06:49] <S3> vifino: it is, but 15 years ago it wasn't
L655[09:06:54] <vifino> yeah.
L656[09:07:06] <vifino> still, unfortunatly now it is.l
L657[09:07:08] <S3> I'm very disappointed
L658[09:07:22] <S3> and I'm dissapointed that it pretty much stayed the same in terms of usability
L659[09:07:33] <S3> it never really adapted to how people want to get open source software
L660[09:08:18] <Forecaster> wasn't it SF that tried to make you download a generic installer instead of the installer for the program?
L661[09:08:23] <Forecaster> or was that something else
L662[09:08:34] <S3> I think that's CNET now
L663[09:08:49] <S3> and CNET wasn't too bad 15 years ago..
L664[09:09:07] <Michiyo> yeah CNET did that
L665[09:09:17] <vifino> Forecaster: nope, that's not SF, CNET does that along many other sites.
L666[09:09:34] <S3> oh and those BLASTED INSTALLERS
L667[09:09:51] <Forecaster> %fling CNET
L668[09:09:51] * MichiBot flings LiEat 4 in a random direction. It hits the ground near CNET
L669[09:09:52] <S3> that look like normal ones but have been modified and you have to unaccept the terms of all of the stupid adware and shit
L670[09:10:07] <Lizzy> i hate those
L671[09:10:16] <Forecaster> who doesn't
L672[09:10:22] <vifino> *Everyone* does, Lizzy.
L673[09:10:28] <S3> and some of them if you are not careful the licence for the softwar eyou were trying to install is randomly in the middle and if you accidentlty decline it it quits the installer
L674[09:10:34] <Forecaster> some of them are really sneaky too
L675[09:10:56] <Lizzy> generally now i either go to the webpage specifically for the bit of software i'm trying to get or if it has a github repo i just scour the readme for download links
L676[09:11:15] <S3> Ads and that are just a very tiny fraction of my hatred for modern computing
L677[09:11:57] <Forecaster> https://kotaku.com/meet-the-19-year-old-who-spent-over-10-000-on-microtra-1820854953
L678[09:12:34] <Forecaster> not really the fault of computing, just businesses and people being evil
L679[09:12:45] <Forecaster> which isn't really new
L680[09:13:01] <S3> Right, but it's effecting it slowly
L681[09:13:18] <S3> it's effecting how people see computers as tools
L682[09:13:24] <S3> and therefore how many of them are built
L683[09:13:50] <S3> some is good, but the extremity is horrifying
L684[09:14:22] <S3> I want choice, I don't want to be locked in somebody elses ideal market
L685[09:15:16] <S3> integrate
L686[09:15:38] <S3> identity definitions 'otherness' outnumbered
L687[09:15:48] <S3> oops sorry I'm writing note sin class had the wrong window upen
L688[09:15:56] <vifino> Oh, S3, did I tell you how I have a portable battery powered 100w gluegun.
L689[09:16:07] <vifino> hot glue*
L690[09:16:12] <S3> oh neat
L691[09:16:24] <Forecaster> a cold glue-gun would be pretty useless
L692[09:16:24] <Forecaster> :P
L693[09:16:28] <S3> that must melt everything
L694[09:16:37] <vifino> If I feel especially gluey, I'll just overvolt it some more.
L695[09:16:38] <Michiyo> a cold glue-gun would be awesome, if it worked. :P
L696[09:16:53] <vifino> 240w at my disposal, if I so desire.
L697[09:16:54] <S3> they make then
L698[09:16:56] <S3> them*
L699[09:17:36] <S3> you just fill em with elmers glue or some shit
L700[09:18:13] <vifino> Actually, not 240w, only 200w. Lame.
L701[09:18:19] <Michiyo> No no.. I want one that melts glue sticks, but without being 9000 degrees :p
L702[09:18:32] <vifino> Only 8 amps at 24V, meh.
L703[09:19:06] <Michiyo> which is why I said "if it worked" cause it can't.
L704[09:20:56] <S3> but yeah anyways, I've been designing and preparing to build a homebuilt computer. I will never use it for facebook or whatever the hell else most people do, but I'm sure I'll be able to do tests and run Forth and get on IRC and play MUDs
L705[09:21:26] <S3> But I'll love it because itl be my very own computer tailored to how I like to have fun
L706[09:21:55] <S3> It'l be like a technology based version of when I escape to the camp in the woods
L707[09:22:26] <S3> away from the technical world that modern society expects me to participate in
L708[09:22:57] <S3> I'll still have my laptop and things like that, it's not like I hate technology, I just didlike the movement it's going and the feeling that I can never escape
L709[09:23:11] <S3> dislike*
L710[09:23:52] <ben_mkiv> yea, the pressure of society forces one to land up here
L711[09:23:55] <S3> I also do not like the idea of an entire operating system I cannot access exists on your nice fancy intel chips
L712[09:24:13] <S3> shit like that is frustrating
L713[09:24:30] <SAL9000> AMD has their own equivalent, anyway
L714[09:24:34] <S3> vifino: OH! I found a way to speed up my ALU , etc!
L715[09:24:43] <S3> I don't have to use just NANDs or a mix of gates at all
L716[09:26:10] <S3> I did not realize vifino that masked ROM is still orderable and cheap
L717[09:26:20] <S3> and has delay time of like 20 ns or less
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L721[09:33:54] <payonel> LUA
L722[09:33:54] <MichiBot> Lua*
L723[09:34:33] <Forecaster> https://gizmodo.com/when-a-furby-and-alexa-love-each-other-very-much-this-1820841805
L724[09:37:15] <Forecaster> oh god
L725[09:37:17] <Forecaster> http://tinyurl.com/y8yptf2n
L726[09:37:23] <Forecaster> that's the most horrible thing I've seen today
L727[09:37:38] <Lizzy> dafuq?
L728[09:37:51] <Forecaster> that's a wordpress theme
L729[09:37:54] <Corded> * <Forecaster> shudders
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L731[09:44:29] <Forecaster> %fling
L732[09:44:30] * MichiBot flings cookies in a random direction. It hits the ground near Bigcheese
L733[09:50:02] <AshIndigo> %fling
L734[09:50:03] * MichiBot flings hot electronics in a random direction. It hits the ground near daniel
L735[09:52:59] <Forecaster> Next update the hit chance will be 80% instead of the current 60%
L736[09:53:05] <Forecaster> %fling
L737[09:53:05] * MichiBot flings a parboiled Robot in a random direction. It hits the ground near yorick
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L740[09:55:14] zsh sets mode: +v on MichiBot
L741[09:55:24] <Forecaster> %fling AshIndigo
L742[09:55:50] * MichiBot flings LiEat 4 in a random direction. It hits the ground near AshIndigo
L743[09:55:51] * MichiBot LiEat 4 rides off into the sunset on a horse with no name.
L744[09:57:01] <Forecaster> well poo
L745[09:59:06] <Michiyo> %fling @Forecaster
L746[09:59:06] * MichiBot flings Pillows in a random direction. It hits the ground near @Forecaster
L747[09:59:21] <Michiyo> man.. that RNG though...
L748[09:59:23] <S3> %fling
L749[09:59:23] * MichiBot flings edible underwear in a random direction. It hits the ground near Izaya
L750[09:59:24] * MichiBot edible underwear falls into a chasm.
L751[09:59:29] <S3> ...
L752[10:00:07] <Forecaster> who wrote that dice roller that determines this stuff?!
L753[10:00:14] <Forecaster> (it totally wasn't me)
L754[10:00:20] <Corded> * <Forecaster> hides in the bunker
L755[10:02:06] <Arcanitor> which bunker
L756[10:02:09] <Arcanitor> %inv list
L757[10:02:09] <MichiBot> Arcanitor: Here's my inventory: http://michibot.pc-logix.com/inventory
L758[10:02:32] <Forecaster> that bunker
L759[10:02:44] <Arcanitor> the one that michibot has?
L760[10:02:49] <Forecaster> maybe
L761[10:03:11] * Arcanitor cannot get in michibot's bunker
L762[10:03:30] <Forecaster> oh, I had an idea for the rpg system
L763[10:04:10] <Forecaster> if you attack someone, there should be a delay, the target has a few seconds to respond to the ping in the command and can trigger a defend command
L764[10:04:30] <Forecaster> the defend command will use a random item from the inventory to lessen the damage, destroying it :P
L765[10:05:00] <Forecaster> damage reduction should depend on the amount of uses left
L766[10:06:45] <Michiyo> huh..
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L768[10:08:22] * Inari wonders if theres an esoteric language where theres only one keyword and the indentation defines the rest
L769[10:09:11] <Forecaster> inari as in whether you use tabs or spaces? :P
L770[10:09:30] <Inari> Whether how much indentation you use I guess, but thats could be a feature I suppose
L771[10:09:35] <AmandaC> Inari: there's Whitespace
L772[10:09:43] <AmandaC> spaces/tabs
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L774[10:10:29] <Inari> How does whitespace handle alphanumerics
L775[10:11:06] <AmandaC> They're considered comments, I think
L776[10:11:12] <everyos> So for IRC do we have to use our forum names, or can we choose anything?
L777[10:11:23] <Forecaster> you can choose anything
L778[10:11:24] <Inari> anything
L779[10:11:27] <Inari> %fling
L780[10:11:27] * MichiBot flings a cyberdeck in a random direction. It hits the ground near Saphire
L781[10:11:28] * MichiBot the cyberdeck fell into a vat of radioactive goo.
L782[10:11:30] <everyos> ok, thx
L783[10:11:32] <Forecaster> unless the IRC king decides otherwise
L784[10:11:41] <Inari> TIL theres a vat of radioactive goo near Saphire
L785[10:11:58] <AmandaC> %newtopic
L786[10:11:58] <MichiBot> AmandaC: #8 Have you read the latest news? Ender IO breaks Atum support in OpenSecurity
L787[10:13:09] <MGR> %ohno
L788[10:13:09] <MichiBot> ohno
L789[10:13:17] <Arcanitor> %rainbow ohno
L790[10:13:18] <MichiBot> Arcanitor: ohno
L791[10:13:20] <Arcanitor> better
L792[10:13:52] <everyos> So on the tablet found in the creative inventory when I put it in dissasembler there is a redstone card, i thought tablets could not have those
L793[10:13:53] <Forecaster> We have a tentacle pit, why not :P
L794[10:15:07] <MGR> Everyos, the creative tablet is special
L795[10:15:24] <MGR> I *believe* it has all upgrades and cards
L796[10:15:45] <everyos> ok
L797[10:15:48] <MGR> Could be wrong
L798[10:16:04] <everyos> by
L799[10:16:19] <MGR> Bye
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L803[10:29:45] <S3> uh
L804[10:33:01] <AmandaC> S3: ?
L805[10:33:24] <S3> I forgot
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L807[10:42:28] <AshIndigo> %fling
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L812[10:58:26] <LeshaInc> payonel: https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/pull/2651
L813[10:58:28] <LeshaInc> found a bug
L814[11:01:11] <S3> WHAT THE
L815[11:01:32] <S3> sorry reaction tos omething else
L816[11:01:36] <S3> let's see what your bugs about
L817[11:02:56] <S3> where's your bug report LeshaInc ?
L818[11:03:14] <LeshaInc> S3: nowhere
L819[11:04:35] <LeshaInc> here's the reproduction: https://i.imgur.com/1lDDJ4n.jpg
L820[11:04:51] <LeshaInc> tree crashes when the file tree is too big
L821[11:05:15] <S3> heh
L822[11:05:18] <LeshaInc> the reason is not obvious
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L824[11:05:43] <S3> It's funny how people don't think about the code they write
L825[11:07:07] <Inari> AmandaC: neat
L826[11:07:17] <Skye> LeshaInc, dear god that JPEG compression
L827[11:07:59] <LeshaInc> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L828[11:08:19] <S3> apparently Skye needs to stick some sticks in the eye to blur vision a bit so it doesn't look so bad
L829[11:08:23] <S3> XD
L830[11:09:15] <Skye> D:
L831[11:09:43] <LeshaInc> i wonder if tree was actually helpful for anybody
L832[11:09:44] <ben_mkiv> whats wrong with the compression? all informations are available at low bandwidth cost
L833[11:09:51] <ben_mkiv> +1 LeshaInc
L834[11:09:55] <ben_mkiv> LeshaInc++
L835[11:09:56] <MichiBot> ben_mkiv: LeshaInc now has 1 points
L836[11:09:58] <S3> LeshaInc: tree is used on many *nix systems
L837[11:10:05] <Inari> ben_mkiv: It looks bad, use png
L838[11:10:10] <Skye> ben_mkiv, the main problem is that red rendering is awful
L839[11:10:14] <ben_mkiv> you want that as wallpaper?
L840[11:10:18] <ben_mkiv> :P
L841[11:10:19] <Inari> If you want less bandwidth, use txt
L842[11:10:22] <S3> png files can be huge
L843[11:10:28] <Inari> S3: So can you
L844[11:10:33] <LeshaInc> use bmp
L845[11:10:42] <Inari> Use bogomp
L846[11:10:49] <ben_mkiv> Inari, btw... http://pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=120705 :P
L847[11:10:58] <Inari> Neat
L848[11:11:03] <ben_mkiv> just took me like a week
L849[11:11:06] <Inari> xD
L850[11:12:33] <ben_mkiv> actually i wasnt aware of the fact that i have to call update() for all the components
L851[11:12:42] <ben_mkiv> thought they would do it themself when initialized
L852[11:14:24] <Skye> ben_mkiv, what is it?
L853[11:14:36] <ben_mkiv> a entity hosting a computer
L854[11:14:49] <LeshaInc> i had to insert two openos loot disks to a computer with openos installed
L855[11:14:53] <ben_mkiv> well, actually a serverboard + external components
L856[11:14:53] <LeshaInc> to crash tree
L857[11:15:17] <S3> I should work on my openoc os some more this weekend
L858[11:15:24] <S3> the actor model makes component mamnagement so much better
L859[11:15:30] <S3> management*
L860[11:15:38] <LeshaInc> ls -R crashes even faster
L861[11:16:08] <S3> Hm. it makes me wonder..
L862[11:16:51] <AmandaC> LeshaInc: how many RAM / what tier?
L863[11:17:07] <LeshaInc> /oc_spawnComputer
L864[11:23:25] <S3> AmandaC: I have an idea, what do you think? restricted access to a debug hook to enable a trap for a coriutine that has yielded for a long period of time
L865[11:23:28] <S3> allowing preemption
L866[11:23:41] <S3> but limited to protect security, abstracted somehow
L867[11:24:04] <AmandaC> won't work in OC, probably
L868[11:24:21] <S3> Don't think so?
L869[11:41:10] <Vexatos> LeshaInc, /oc_sc
L870[11:41:20] <LeshaInc> i know, i know
L871[11:46:14] <payonel> LeshaInc: i thought tree was yield friendly. how did it fail differently in that case?
L872[11:47:09] <LeshaInc> coroutine yielded "too long without yielding" string
L873[11:47:19] <payonel> i understand that (or i think i do)
L874[11:47:35] <payonel> but what i'm saying is, i thought your tree code already yields a bunch
L875[11:47:44] <payonel> i haven't reviewed how to it works for a while
L876[11:47:57] <LeshaInc> it didn't
L877[11:48:02] <payonel> i thought you would use a coroutine for each result set
L878[11:48:15] <payonel> and you weren't yielding between those resumes?
L879[11:48:26] <LeshaInc> i weren't
L880[11:48:28] <payonel> ah
L881[11:48:35] <payonel> ok cool
L882[11:49:07] <LeshaInc> my tree is so fast it didn't need yields
L883[11:49:19] <LeshaInc> every time i tested it didn't crash
L884[11:49:38] <LeshaInc> but now i tried it with a big fs
L885[11:49:44] <Vexatos> Then just make it faster :^)
L886[11:50:07] <Vexatos> That code there won't work if you change the config and lower the timeout time :3
L887[11:50:16] <LeshaInc> i know
L888[11:50:37] <LeshaInc> but sleeping every time is kind of slow
L889[11:52:07] <payonel> Vexatos: sounds like computer. needs an api to tell a machine what the timeout is :)
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L891[11:52:18] <payonel> s/\.//
L892[11:52:19] <MichiBot> <payonel> Vexatos: sounds like computer needs an api to tell a machine what the timeout is :)
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L894[12:01:27] <Forecaster> %fling
L895[12:01:27] * MichiBot flings hot electronics in a random direction. It hits the ground near Wiiplay123_
L896[12:02:12] <AshIndigo> %fling
L897[12:02:13] * MichiBot flings cookies in a random direction. It hits the ground near Tedster
L898[12:02:18] <AshIndigo> blarh
L899[12:02:23] <S3> you know what's crazy?
L900[12:02:32] <S3> me. I'm crazy. That's what you're about to say
L901[12:03:34] <Vexatos> I can confirm
L902[12:03:36] <Vexatos> you like perl
L903[12:03:54] <S3> Perl is likely my favorite imperative language yes
L904[12:04:06] <Vexatos> which confirms you being crazy
L905[12:04:49] <S3> you know I think I know where I get my craziness from
L906[12:05:53] <S3> My 11th generation grandmother was a convicted salem witch, sentenced to hanging and somehow became released, cept under house arrest for her entire life.
L907[12:07:27] <ben_mkiv> shes still alive i guess
L908[12:07:29] <ben_mkiv> as a witch
L909[12:07:47] <S3> lol
L910[12:07:51] <S3> she's burred somewhere
L911[12:07:59] <S3> actually, she isn't even burried where her grave is
L912[12:08:06] <ben_mkiv> thats what they had to tell you
L913[12:08:11] <S3> They put her somewhere else
L914[12:08:13] <ben_mkiv> see
L915[12:08:13] <Forecaster> %give MichiBot a burred
L916[12:08:13] * MichiBot accepts the burred and adds it to her inventory
L917[12:08:33] <S3> LOL
L918[12:08:57] <S3> %give MichiBot an IBM 5100
L919[12:08:58] * MichiBot accepts the IBM 5100 and adds it to her inventory
L920[12:10:33] <S3> %give MichiBot a pissed off liberal arts teacher
L921[12:10:33] * MichiBot accepts the pissed off liberal arts teacher and adds it to her inventory
L922[12:12:12] <AshIndigo> %fling S3
L923[12:12:12] * MichiBot flings free will in a random direction. It hits the ground near S3
L924[12:12:20] <AshIndigo> michibot pls
L925[12:12:28] <Forecaster> oh man
L926[12:12:38] <Forecaster> I needed to check my recycle bin just now
L927[12:12:44] <Forecaster> it meant revealing the desktop
L928[12:12:52] <Forecaster> I probably haven't seen it in years
L929[12:13:12] <AshIndigo> whats the oldest file?
L930[12:14:20] <S3> %stab
L931[12:14:20] * MichiBot flails at nothingness with hot electronics
L932[12:14:58] <Forecaster> 2014
L933[12:15:34] <AshIndigo> woah
L934[12:16:18] <payonel> LeshaInc: thanks, merged
L935[12:16:18] <Forecaster> I had 4.5Gb worth of files in my recycle bin
L936[12:16:26] <LeshaInc> ^_^
L937[12:19:20] <S3> I forgot there's a such thing as a recycle bin
L938[12:19:26] <S3> I haven't used one in years
L939[12:22:23] <Forecaster> godammit
L940[12:22:29] <Forecaster> I hate gpu driver updates
L941[12:22:38] <Forecaster> they always mess everything up
L942[12:26:48] <Forecaster> the worst part is DisplayFusion's taskbar shortcuts moving around between the monitors...
L943[12:54:04] <AshIndigo> %stab >
L944[12:54:04] * MichiBot stabs > with a burred doing [11] damage
L945[12:55:38] <vifino> %stab themselves
L946[12:55:38] * MichiBot uses cookie to vaporize vifino
L947[12:55:43] <vifino> :(
L948[12:56:40] <AmandaC> %give MichiBot the pile of ash that was once vifino
L949[12:56:40] * MichiBot accepts the pile of ash that was once vifino and adds it to her inventory
L950[13:04:09] <MGR> %inventory count
L951[13:04:09] <MichiBot> The inventory contains 39 items.
L952[13:04:29] <Forecaster> %fling
L953[13:04:29] * MichiBot flings earscritches in a random direction. It hits the ground near quantsini
L954[13:30:04] <Forecaster> %fling
L955[13:30:04] * MichiBot flings a parboiled Robot in a random direction. It hits the ground near TheCryptek
L956[13:30:25] <Forecaster> ...
L957[13:31:34] <Michiyo> "80%"
L958[13:31:42] <Forecaster> yeah...
L959[13:31:45] <Forecaster> I don't think so :P
L960[13:31:55] <Michiyo> inb4 .80%
L961[13:31:55] <Michiyo> :p
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L963[13:59:14] <AshIndigo> %fling rng
L964[13:59:14] * MichiBot flings AshIndigo in a random direction. It hits the ground near rng
L965[13:59:48] * AshIndigo soars through the air
L966[14:03:24] <Forecaster> Pretty sure I've done it correctly :|
L967[14:04:51] <Arcanitor> %fling AshIndigo
L968[14:04:51] * MichiBot flings a subatomic hug in a random direction. It hits the ground near AshIndigo
L969[14:05:02] <Arcanitor> Forecaster: can see source?
L970[14:05:40] <vifino> %source
L971[14:05:40] <MichiBot> https://github.com/PC-Logix/LanteaBot/
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L973[14:07:42] <Arcanitor> Forecaster: why are you passing dice roll as a string
L974[14:07:54] <Arcanitor> to the utils module
L975[14:08:09] <CompanionCube> %inv list
L976[14:08:09] <MichiBot> CompanionCube: Here's my inventory: http://michibot.pc-logix.com/inventory
L977[14:08:13] <Forecaster> Because that's how dice rolls work?
L978[14:08:44] <Forecaster> %roll 1d100
L979[14:08:44] <MichiBot> Forecaster: [3]
L980[14:08:49] <CompanionCube> ....how did MichiBot vaporize vifino with a cookie
L981[14:09:02] <vifino> instagib cookie.
L982[14:09:06] <Forecaster> %roll 2d50
L983[14:09:06] <MichiBot> Forecaster: [8, 13] = 21
L984[14:09:26] <CompanionCube> %inv give CompanionCube the pile of ash that was once vifino
L985[14:09:26] <MichiBot> CompanionCube: Unknown sub-command 'give' (Try: list, create (add), remove (rem, del), preserve (pre), unpreserve (unpre), count, favourite (fav))
L986[14:10:04] <Forecaster> It's just give, not inv give
L987[14:10:19] <CompanionCube> %give CompanionCube the pile of ash that was once vifino
L988[14:10:19] * MichiBot gives CompanionCube the pile of ash that was once vifino from her inventory
L989[14:10:31] * CompanionCube dumps the ashes in water to reconstitute a vifino
L990[14:10:34] <Arcanitor> no ow
L991[14:10:39] <Arcanitor> make the roll command parse it
L992[14:10:46] <Arcanitor> but internally there is no reason to use a string
L993[14:10:53] <AshIndigo> %fling the channel
L994[14:10:53] * MichiBot flings a dimensional anchor in a random direction. It hits the ground near the channel
L995[14:10:54] * MichiBot an adventurer came by and claimed the dimensional anchor was the artifact they were looking for to save their village.
L996[14:11:08] <vifino> CompanionCube: Thank you.
L997[14:11:12] <Arcanitor> %give MichiBot an adventurer
L998[14:11:12] * MichiBot accepts the adventurer and adds it to her inventory
L999[14:11:31] * AshIndigo likes the new messages
L1000[14:11:53] * vifino likes being alive sometimes
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L1002[14:12:17] <Forecaster> There is no reason not to use a string either
L1003[14:15:16] <AmandaC> clearly it should use a DiceRollingState constructed using a DiceRollingState.Builder which you get from the DiceRollingStateBuilderFactory
L1004[14:15:26] <Arcanitor> why not just get a random number with min dice_min and max dice_max
L1005[14:15:38] <Forecaster> why indeed
L1006[14:15:58] <Arcanitor> from my understanding of what it does right now
L1007[14:16:16] <Arcanitor> for each die, get a random number of steps between 1 and 12
L1008[14:16:41] <MGR> AmandaC, excellent idea!
L1009[14:16:52] <Arcanitor> starting at a result of 1, increment it a random number of times
L1010[14:16:59] <MGR> But you need a DiceRollingStateBuilderFactoryConstructor first
L1011[14:17:23] <Arcanitor> if the result is equal to the dice size before increment, set it to zero
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L1013[14:17:28] <Arcanitor> %roll 1d100
L1014[14:17:28] <MichiBot> Arcanitor: [8]
L1015[14:17:34] <Arcanitor> %roll 1d100
L1016[14:17:34] <MichiBot> Arcanitor: [5]
L1017[14:17:38] <Arcanitor> %roll 1d100
L1018[14:17:38] <MichiBot> Arcanitor: [2]
L1019[14:17:40] <Forecaster> if you want a random number between min and max you call Helper.getRandomInt(min, max)
L1020[14:17:46] <Arcanitor> forecaster
L1021[14:17:56] <Arcanitor> your dice roller will never return a number larger than 12
L1022[14:18:02] <Arcanitor> for any die
L1023[14:18:13] <Arcanitor> the biggest die it can roll properly is a d12
L1024[14:18:35] <Forecaster> I don't even remember what I was doing when I wrote that
L1025[14:18:45] <Michiyo> well. it returned a 13 up there ^
L1026[14:18:57] <Michiyo> %roll 10d100
L1027[14:18:57] <MichiBot> Michiyo: [4, 10, 10, 7, 9, 6, 6, 6, 5, 11] = 74
L1028[14:18:59] <Arcanitor> actually, it can return a 13
L1029[14:19:02] <Michiyo> :P
L1030[14:19:12] <Arcanitor> if the die size is bigger than 12 it can return a 13
L1031[14:19:16] <Arcanitor> !roll 100d100
L1032[14:19:16] <Forecaster> Arcanitor rolls the 100d100 and gets: 4747 [40, 4, 91, 55, 65, 88, 96, 27, 94, 39, 87, 3, 79, 88, 14, 81, 95, 91, 27, 6, 32, 1, 36, 8, 62, 11, 56, 74, 90, 15, 3, 75, 40, 6, 86, 74, 42, 73, 26, 40, 67, 90, 27, 67, 72, 19, 45, 73, 23, 8, 82, 55, 32, 11, 79, 40, 86, 49, 49, 96, 14, 52, 5, 25, 73, 8, 6, 83, 87, 48, 6, 11, 59, 76, 24, 64, 1, 3, 7, 66, 74, 51, 100, 61, 6, 13, 73, 30, 65, 41, 34, 9, 76, 23, 19, 54, 31, 91, 11, 77]
L1033[14:19:32] <Michiyo> ... wrong preficx.
L1034[14:19:35] <Michiyo> prefix*
L1035[14:19:36] <Forecaster> xD
L1036[14:19:38] <Arcanitor> %roll 100d100
L1037[14:19:38] <MichiBot> Arcanitor: Message too long to send to channel https://paste.pc-logix.com/ecimatiran
L1038[14:19:43] <Arcanitor> forecaster is a bot confirmed
L1039[14:20:17] <Arcanitor> michiyo is correct and I am mostly correct
L1040[14:20:23] <Arcanitor> the highest number you can get is 13
L1041[14:20:48] <Arcanitor> fix your dice roller and maybe your bot's aim will improve
L1042[14:21:08] <Forecaster> I wonder how the bot hit in the beginning...
L1043[14:21:58] <Forecaster> or maybe I'm thinking of before I added the hit chance
L1044[14:21:59] <Michiyo> Did it hit after you switched it to be able to miss?
L1045[14:22:06] <Michiyo> Yeah.. I don't think it has..
L1046[14:22:12] <Forecaster> probably not
L1047[14:22:47] <Arcanitor> Forecaster: it would appear that at some point it was not able to miss: https://github.com/PC-Logix/LanteaBot/commit/f54c07a57efb81ff7f85cbdc38793413ea3cc747#diff-b5c8726a526096b697d29a37d470f707
L1048[14:22:57] <Forecaster> yes I know
L1049[14:23:11] <Michiyo> confirmed, it's not hit since adding the chance to miss
L1050[14:23:15] <Arcanitor> *reads backlog*
L1051[14:23:21] <Arcanitor> sorry
L1052[14:23:41] <Forecaster> Michiyo, magic doesn't exist confirmed!
L1053[14:23:55] <Michiyo> %flip @Forecaster
L1054[14:23:55] <MichiBot> Michiyo: (╯°□°）╯ɹǝʇsɐɔǝɹoℲ@
L1055[14:24:08] <Forecaster> anyway, I believe simply setting the max of getRandomInt to dice_size should solve the issue
L1056[14:25:08] <Forecaster> I guess I should test it
L1057[14:25:15] <Forecaster> to #MichiBot !!
L1058[14:25:50] <Forecaster> boop
L1059[14:28:16] <Izaya> S3: are you going to precompute your ALU's states and get them burned into a ROM?
L1060[14:32:13] <Forecaster> there we go
L1061[14:32:15] <Forecaster> all better
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L1064[14:34:43] <AshIndigo> %fling %fling
L1065[14:34:43] * MichiBot flings true in a random direction. It hits the ground near %fling
L1066[14:34:44] * MichiBot true met the Doctor and went on numerous adventures through time and space.
L1067[14:36:53] <Forecaster> (needs an update first)
L1068[14:36:58] <Forecaster> then it'll work correctly
L1069[14:37:45] <AshIndigo> yay
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L1072[14:40:10] zsh sets mode: +v on MichiBot
L1073[14:40:19] <Michiyo> %fling @Forecaster
L1074[14:40:46] * MichiBot flings earscritches in a random direction. It hits the ground near @Forecaster
L1075[14:40:52] <Michiyo> %fling @Forecaster
L1076[14:40:52] * MichiBot flings free will in a random direction. It hits @Forecaster on the arm. They take [4] damage.
L1077[14:40:53] * MichiBot free will angered a fairy and was turned into a pie.
L1078[14:41:07] <Forecaster> yay
L1079[14:41:09] <AshIndigo> %fling the ground
L1080[14:41:09] * MichiBot flings an ill bird in a random direction. It hits the ground on the butt. They take [5] damage.
L1081[14:41:17] <AshIndigo> \o/
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L1083[14:42:58] <Arcanitor> %fling AshIndigo
L1084[14:42:58] * MichiBot flings earscritches in a random direction. It hits the ground near AshIndigo
L1085[14:43:10] <AshIndigo> %fling Arcanitor
L1086[14:43:10] * MichiBot flings cookie crumbs in a random direction. It hits the ground near Arcanitor
L1087[14:43:38] <AshIndigo> s/It hits the ground near Arcanitor/It hits Arcanitor on the arm. They take [6] damage.
L1088[14:46:34] <Forecaster> %fling
L1089[14:46:34] * MichiBot flings the World's Shortest Let's Play Episode in a random direction. It hits Vindex on the heel. They take [4] damage.
L1090[14:46:35] * MichiBot the World's Shortest Let's Play Episode vanishes into a rift in space.
L1091[14:47:13] <Arcanitor> %give MichiBot a rift in space
L1092[14:47:13] * MichiBot accepts the rift in space and adds it to her inventory
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L1096[14:52:22] <IzayaPhone> confirmed, ZNC has lost its shit
L1097[14:52:34] <Forecaster> we can tell :P
L1098[14:52:50] <IzayaPhone> I'll deal with it tonight x_x
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L1100[15:08:49] <AshIndigo> %slap AshIndigo
L1101[15:08:49] * MichiBot slaps AshIndigo with a pie doing [15] damage
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L1103[15:09:33] <AshIndigo> i made this for loop and then wondered why it locked up my arduino "for (int i = 0; 8 > 0; i++) { }"
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L1106[15:10:33] <Forecaster> :P
L1107[15:10:36] <Forecaster> looks fine to me!
L1108[15:11:56] <AmandaC> Must be some kind of cosmic ray issue, better restart it and try again
L1109[15:12:18] * AshIndigo reboots the simulation
L1110[15:14:34] <Forecaster> nooo my progress!
L1111[15:16:35] <CompanionCube> is AshIndigo root?
L1112[15:16:40] <CompanionCube> only root has access to reboot
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L1114[15:17:35] <Inari> CompanionCube: that rhymes!
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L1116[15:18:40] *** Vaht is now known as Tahg
L1117[15:22:14] * AshIndigo whistles
L1118[15:26:08] <Skye> well
L1119[15:26:18] <Skye> the godesses have the ability to reboot the universe?
L1120[15:27:10] <Michiyo> Yes, we do
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L1122[15:33:03] <Michiyo> %all
L1123[15:33:03] <MichiBot> LIES!
L1124[15:33:05] <Michiyo> o_O
L1125[15:33:07] <Michiyo> mkaaaay
L1126[15:34:06] <AshIndigo> %lies
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L1128[15:47:55] <Forecaster> %fling
L1129[15:47:55] * MichiBot flings tilda~ in a random direction. It hits wolfmitchell a body part they didn't even know they had. They take [4] damage.
L1130[15:48:17] <Forecaster> well shoot
L1131[15:50:19] <tim4242> %fling
L1132[15:50:19] * MichiBot flings a botsnack in a random direction. It hits Hobbyboy in their pride. They take [1] damage.
L1133[15:50:22] <Inari> OC plugin idea
L1134[15:50:26] <Inari> EsotericalComputers
L1135[15:50:32] <Inari> Adds all kinds of esoteric language archs
L1136[15:50:33] <Inari> :p
L1137[15:50:44] <Forecaster> EtherealComputers
L1138[15:50:52] <Forecaster> once you place it, good luck picking it back up
L1139[15:50:57] <Inari> Heh
L1140[15:59:55] <Inari> Whitespace is a PITA to write
L1141[16:00:25] <Forecaster> I'm not surprised :P
L1142[16:00:53] <Inari> Mostly because the editors seem to suck at mixing spaces and tabs
L1143[16:00:54] <Inari> :P
L1144[16:01:03] <Inari> At least the ones I usually use
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L1146[16:10:17] <AmandaC> %newtopc
L1147[16:10:20] <AmandaC> %newtopic
L1148[16:10:20] <MichiBot> AmandaC: #6 Michiyo has been trying to add a new feature, but the qunatum computer's demonic posession has been preventing me from agreeing.
L1149[16:11:29] <AmandaC> %choose shower now or later
L1150[16:11:29] <MichiBot> AmandaC: later
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L1156[16:44:53] <payonel> Inari: https://slack-files.com/T025QNLGW-F886AJB8V-464e2bc9de
L1157[16:45:30] <Inari> Haha ^^
L1158[16:46:46] <Arcanitor> %choose dragonborn or aasimar
L1159[16:46:46] <MichiBot> Arcanitor: dragonborn
L1160[16:46:53] <Arcanitor> %choose paladin or warlock
L1161[16:46:54] <MichiBot> Arcanitor: warlock
L1162[16:47:10] <Inari> Someones planning a new Skyrim run
L1163[16:47:24] <Arcanitor> nope
L1164[16:47:50] <Arcanitor> %choose more magic or more swords
L1165[16:47:50] <MichiBot> Arcanitor: more magic
L1166[16:47:56] <Arcanitor> %choose tome or chain
L1167[16:47:56] <MichiBot> Arcanitor: chain
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L1169[16:48:02] <Arcanitor> this will be interesting
L1170[16:48:13] <payonel> Mimiru: rpg when?
L1171[16:48:48] <Michiyo> payonel, one day https://michi.pc-logix.com/eclipse_2017-11-30_16-48-35.png
L1172[16:49:05] <payonel> woo! :)
L1173[16:49:21] <Arcanitor> Inari: dnd5e
L1174[16:49:46] <Arcanitor> looks like Pact of the Chain dragonborn warlock
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L1176[17:11:00] <Izaya> %p
L1177[17:11:02] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Izaya 1.91s
L1178[17:13:04] <Izaya> welp, installing a VM to run my ZNC and stuff now
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L1180[17:37:28] <AmandaC> %choose pizza or no
L1181[17:37:28] <MichiBot> AmandaC: pizza
L1182[17:37:31] <AmandaC> hrm
L1183[17:37:34] <AmandaC> I concur
L1184[17:55:46] <Temia> Arcanitor, what familiar?
L1185[17:55:56] <Izaya> back shortly maybe
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L1187[17:56:06] <Temia> Also what patron?
L1188[17:57:00] <AmandaC> The parton saint of internet donors!
L1189[17:57:23] <Temia> Those don't give pact magic.
L1190[17:57:33] <AmandaC> Not with that attitude!
L1191[17:57:37] <Temia> That's more of a cleric sort of thing
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L1193[17:58:27] <Izaya> let's see if this is more stable
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L1198[18:21:57] <freacknate09> Is there ANY mod that adds integrated circuits into 1.12.2
L1199[18:26:44] <freacknate09> I want to create a computer using ICs but no mod adds them for 1.12
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L1211[20:41:28] <freacknate09> Does anyone use the project red mod?
L1212[20:45:12] <MGR> I do
L1213[20:45:45] <MGR> Going to sleep though, so I can't help right now
L1214[20:45:48] <freacknate09> ok
L1215[20:45:55] <freacknate09> I just have a bug that I need help with
L1216[20:45:58] <MGR> Drop me a PM, and I'll get back to you tomorrow
L1217[20:46:10] <MGR> If it's a bug, I'd go to their channel
L1218[20:46:56] <freacknate09> What is there channel? I cant find it
L1219[20:47:34] <MGR> I'll look into it tomorrow
L1220[20:49:35] <freacknate09> ok
L1221[20:49:59] <Mimiru> whats the issue?
L1222[20:50:25] <freacknate09> I am unable to place null cells in project redd
L1223[20:50:54] <freacknate09> or any other cells
L1224[20:52:59] <freacknate09> and it is angering me
L1225[20:56:11] <freacknate09> I cant place any project red blocks
L1226[21:22:56] <S3> dramatic holywood hacker scene.. wtf
L1227[21:27:12] <S3> "It's a well known fact that hackers will use green text on black screens" Says she. He asks, "...But what if the hacker doesn't use green text?" She follows, "Well in that event we're absolutely screwed."
L1228[21:43:24] <Izaya> does that mean I'm not a hacker if I use white text on a black screen
L1229[22:01:41] <S3> no apparent it means you're an uber hacker
L1230[22:02:20] <Izaya> oh
L1231[22:02:22] <Izaya> okay
L1232[22:08:13] <CompanionCube> heh. New gentoo profiles enable position-independent-code by default
L1233[22:08:35] <CompanionCube> Switching's gonna be fun, because apparently it involves a world rebuild.
L1234[22:08:59] <CompanionCube> vifino: ^
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L1241[23:07:39] <freacknate09> I am attempting to build a computer from scratch in a program called logisim
L1242[23:08:13] <freacknate09> I have made a half adder, a full adder, an 8bit adder, and a device to check if a byte is zero
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L1245[23:46:48] <Forecaster> You also need a black adder
L1246[23:47:30] <Forecaster> %fling
L1247[23:47:30] * MichiBot flings a parboiled Robot in a random direction. It hits Forecaster in the head. They take [1] damage.
L1248[23:47:45] <Forecaster> Ow D:
L1249[23:47:59] <freacknate09> lol
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L1252[23:53:14] <Izaya> I forget whether my MC server is on debian8-minecraft or debian9-minecraft
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