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L3[01:15:15] <gamax92> hmm, string.dump reports a different string with lljvm than with gcc, lljvm additionally loads the broken code where lua with gcc complains the code is corrupt
L4[01:20:31] <gamax92> ah, and part of this corrupt portion happens to be the LUAC_TAIL, "data to catch conversion errors"
L5[01:23:09] <gamax92> and sure enough the string is corrupted in the class outputted by lljvm
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L13[01:34:46] <gamax92> it gets corrupted when lljvm writes the jvm assembly
L14[02:14:39] <Toskin> So, interesting find. Looks like updating OC in pack causes components ID's to be changed.
L15[02:15:31] <Toskin> I'd like to say it can be kinda... nerve-inducing if you're using, for example, Draconic Reactor controller with manual components ID setup.
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L20[02:44:37] <Oggymot> Hello, can I ask if chunk loader works with opencomputers?
L21[02:48:35] <Izaya> S3: PoC||GTFO?
L22[04:05:40] <Izaya> I guess it's nice that unciode pictures don't break qterminal
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L37[06:02:29] <MGR> @Oggymot yes they do
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L41[06:45:35] <AmandaC> Lizzy: ???
L42[06:46:12] <Lizzy> ?
L43[06:46:58] * Lizzy is confused by the question marks
L44[06:47:50] <AmandaC> Lizzy: the random ban
L45[06:47:55] <Mimiru> http://michi.pc-logix.com/hexchat_2017-11-26_06-46-54.png
L46[06:48:05] <Mimiru> likely cause of that
L47[06:48:13] <AmandaC> Ah
L48[06:48:52] <Lizzy> yes
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L57[09:06:57] <Techokami> "there's still nothing wrong with reimplementing crypto" oh god I think I'm gonna puke
L58[09:07:24] <SAL9000> which project?
L59[09:09:25] <Techokami> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/761#issuecomment-347007681
L60[09:09:43] <Techokami> that
L61[09:10:01] <Techokami> I know this guy is a terminal idiot but aauugh
L62[09:11:24] <Techokami> he's arguing and demanding that all the cryptos used for SSL should be reimplemented in Lua for OpenOS
L63[09:11:43] <Techokami> and I'm just, oh my god no
L64[09:13:48] <SAL9000> ...bwahahahaha
L65[09:13:53] <SAL9000> "don't trust monolithic systems"
L66[09:14:25] <SAL9000> this sounds like one of those systemd flame wars
L67[09:14:27] <Forecaster> ah, it's soni
L68[09:14:38] <SAL9000> (for the record, I'm against SysD. I'm for logical debate, though!)
L69[09:15:06] <Techokami> isn't the Linux kernel monolithic? :V
L70[09:15:46] <SAL9000> only in that it's not a microkernel
L71[09:16:10] <SAL9000> *facedesk* my statement's just as illogical
L72[09:16:17] <SAL9000> tl;dr: monolithic vs modular is a spectrum
L73[09:16:41] <SAL9000> microkernels are more modular than linux, which is, I'm reasonably sure, more modular than the NT kernel
L74[09:32:28] <Forecaster> yeesh that's a long thread
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L76[09:39:32] <Inari> Random UX thoguhts on data conversion (taking data from one formoat/database and converting it and fill it into another format/database): If the script isn't perfect it seems nicer to stop on errors, fix them (preferably with a script) and continue then, thus you find some errors early on and they are fixed and then it goes smoothly
L77[09:39:37] <Inari> AmandaC: Haha yeah
L78[09:39:54] <Inari> Instaed of ignoring errors and fixin gthem at the end where it then feels like you work through a huge pile of errors
L79[09:40:23] <Inari> But ideally it might be better to have a smart interface, that lists errors to you and you fix them, but it keeps going and converts things that don't error. But if it notices too many errors piling up it slows down to give you a chance to catch up
L80[09:40:33] <Inari> And when you've fixed an error you tell it that and it reruns the rrorred things
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L82[09:44:59] <SAL9000> Inari: https://github.com/beetbox/beets has UI similar to that
L83[09:46:11] <Inari> Hm
L84[09:46:15] <Inari> doesn't sound like it would need much input?
L85[09:49:10] <SAL9000> The auto-tagger generates a set of candidates for each album/track, together with a likelihood or "distance" percentage. If the percentage is less than a threshold, the user is asked to confirm.
L86[09:54:58] <Inari> Hmm well it should always confirm if theres any kidn of error
L87[09:55:14] <Inari> SAL9000: Does it slow down if theres too many confirm requests?
L88[09:56:45] <SAL9000> No, and neither does it let you retroactively "fix" things.
L89[09:57:06] <SAL9000> but it does do the heavy lifting in the background
L90[09:58:54] <Inari> It's basicalyl ike my bad example then though, it just keeps going and you end up with a huge pile of errors to wade through
L91[09:59:55] <SAL9000> You can cancel & resume, although it looks like it doesn't cache the prepared work :(
L92[10:00:21] <SAL9000> prepared work being (at least) AcoustID fingerprints of tracks, if the plugin in question is enabled
L93[10:11:44] <S3> ok. minimally my ALU will be about 50ns
L94[10:11:53] <S3> probably more like 60
L95[10:14:00] <S3> this gives me a maximum cpu frequency so far of a little under 20 Mhz
L96[10:14:38] <S3> it's actually much lower than that
L97[10:14:57] <S3> but this is before other delays and cycles between instructions are taken into play etc
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L99[10:43:49] <S3> ...
L100[10:43:51] <S3> so!
L101[10:43:54] <S3> I two two choices
L102[10:44:26] <S3> I can A) get a 74HC86 XOR and have a maximum ALU clock frequency of 14 Mhz
L103[10:44:38] <S3> or I can keep using NANDs and add a 3 stage NAND Xor circuit
L104[10:44:47] <S3> sorry 16 Mhz
L105[10:45:01] <S3> or I can keep using NANDs and add a 3 state NAND xor circuit at a cost of only doing 14 Mhz
L106[10:45:59] <S3> It may not seem like a big deal, but the TPD of the CPU I want to allow for 48K instructions per second, and if it's amazing I'll be able to pull of 1Mhz
L107[10:46:16] <S3> note that I said instructions per second though not cycles per second
L108[10:46:44] * Temia squints at Skye's RT
L109[10:46:46] <S3> vifino: whatchya think
L110[10:46:51] <S3> RT
L111[10:46:52] <S3> ?
L112[10:46:55] <Temia> Retweet.
L113[10:46:58] <S3> oh
L114[10:47:01] <Temia> I actually tried that glamour at one point, though not on a miqo'te.
L115[10:47:09] <S3> I can also stop using JUST NANDs like they teach us in EE
L116[10:47:20] <S3> and mix up ANDs and Xors, etc and get a much much faster ALU
L117[10:47:22] <Skye> Temia, which one? :P
L118[10:47:31] <Temia> The second most recent.
L119[10:47:42] <S3> but using only NANDs will boost efficiency of power, etc
L120[10:47:50] <Temia> ...
L121[10:47:54] <Skye> S3, make it an asyncronus CPU! :D
L122[10:48:03] <Temia> Is it sad that I was able to recognize not just that it was FFXIV, but exactly which pieces of gear she was wearing orz
L123[10:48:10] <vifino> S3: mix different kind of gates if you have them available. makes it easier to read/look at.
L124[10:48:30] <S3> vifino: I am willing to buy lots of extra ICs
L125[10:48:41] <S3> my other concern vifino is if I mix them up I'm afraid I won't use a lot of them
L126[10:48:59] * vifino mumbles "then buy me some stuff"
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L128[10:49:03] <S3> if you know what I mean, NAND comes 4 per package for two input, so if I use all NANDs I will end up using almost ALL inputs
L129[10:49:31] <Skye> S3, what's wrong with spare inputs? They help with hotfixing
L130[10:49:45] * Skye headpats Temia
L131[10:49:50] * Temia mu .w.
L132[10:50:29] <Skye> to be honest, I really am interested in the local trains, and I can tell you which ones they are just based on certain small details... so you can't be worse than me with knowledge about random things
L133[10:50:48] <Temia> But yeah, sailor shirt, scholar's culottes, allagan earrings of healing, and... Honestly not sure about the shoes.
L134[10:51:03] <S3> Skye: Not a whole lot, and you are correct to an extent, if you're using wire wrap. if the chips are soldered to the PCB, then you have floating inputs and outputs that should be tied to ground. That's a problem, because it can effect the other gates
L135[10:51:14] <S3> since all gates in the chip connect to the same vdd / vcc
L136[10:51:28] <S3> I would like to do wire wrap
L137[10:51:29] <vifino> S3: jumpers
L138[10:51:43] <S3> as long as I can learn how to do that, I never did wire wrap before
L139[10:51:56] <S3> some people tell me it's tons of fun
L140[10:52:06] <vifino> wasn't your handle prerisoft or something similar, Temia?
L141[10:52:10] <Temia> It is!
L142[10:52:16] <vifino> yay!
L143[10:52:36] <Temia> Hm... Ah! Valentione patterns.
L144[10:52:43] <Temia> ...
L145[10:52:44] <Temia> orz
L146[10:53:07] <Temia> Gods help me I need to get off the glamour game
L147[10:53:39] <S3> wat
L148[10:54:36] <Temia> tl;dr I can identify not only that this is an FFXIV character but every piece of gear she's wearing too https://twitter.com/catgirls_bot/status/934825049302929411
L149[10:54:43] * Skye carts Temia off to the geeky corner
L150[10:54:49] * Temia muuuu .w.
L151[10:55:11] <Temia> Oops, Skye's account is protected so I need the original tweet.
L152[10:55:25] <Temia> https://twitter.com/catgirls_bot/status/934791090305224707
L153[10:55:26] <MichiBot> Sun Nov 26 08:28:58 CST 2017 @catgirls_bot: https://t.co/QxnToQBdcf https://t.co/EXrQjOTzk3
L154[10:56:09] <Temia> The bracelets I cannot positively identify due to their lack of detail, however
L155[10:56:11] <vifino> TIL Skye's account is @catgirls_bot
L156[10:56:15] <Temia> No :P
L157[10:56:23] <Skye> vifino, might as well be
L158[10:56:35] <vifino> nope too late, it's now my reality
L159[10:56:55] <Temia> Corebird just copies tweet numbers that associate with the RTer and not the original, despite appearances.
L160[10:57:58] <vifino> I read that as coreboot and got confuzzled.
L161[11:00:02] <S3> you guys and your anime catgirls
L162[11:01:35] <Skye> s/guys/gals/
L163[11:01:36] <MichiBot> <S3> you gals and your anime catgirls
L164[11:03:10] <Temia> https://78.media.tumblr.com/1a4bda1e308ca8a7d313ea3bd27d3607/tumblr_ozzd632tZH1tqglzco1_1280.jpg for the record
L165[11:03:30] <Skye> ahahah
L166[11:03:51] <Temia> It's funny cuz' it's true.
L167[11:05:23] * AmandaC frowns, as she's learned that she can't farm sugarcane the same way she does cacti
L168[11:09:13] <Inari> You Temias and your moos
L169[11:10:57] * Temia moooos 'o'
L170[11:11:15] <Inari> %moo
L171[11:11:16] <MichiBot> Inari: Moo?
L172[11:12:18] * Temia moos at MichiBot!
L173[11:42:04] <Skye> %moo Temia
L174[11:42:04] <MichiBot> Skye: Temia
L175[11:42:09] <Skye> uh what
L176[11:46:41] <Mimiru> it replaces o's and u's
L177[11:46:51] <Mimiru> Moo
L178[11:46:53] <Mimiru> %moo ^
L179[11:46:53] <MichiBot> Mimiru: Moooo
L180[11:51:34] <Skye> %moo what are you talking about?
L181[11:51:34] <MichiBot> Skye: what are yoooo talking aboooot?
L182[12:01:31] * Temia heeee
L183[12:02:08] <Skye> %moo ^
L184[12:02:09] <MichiBot> Skye: what are yoooooooo talking aboooooooot?
L185[12:02:11] <Skye> ...
L186[12:02:42] <Mimiru> it searches for messages with u or o... since it doesn't do anything otherwise
L187[12:03:04] * Temia giggles endlessly, since this script is the best c:
L188[12:41:07] <AmandaC> payonel: you should also make it so that if there's an error (such as an OOM) when printing the output of the repl it gets caught.
L189[12:41:09] <Inari> %moo Corebird just copies tweet numbers that associate with the RTer and not the original, despite appearances.
L190[12:41:10] <MichiBot> Inari: Coorebird joost coopies tweet noombers that assoociate with the RTer and noot the ooriginal, despite appearances.
L191[12:43:39] <AmandaC> There should be a cat version too. It'd even be possible with %addcommand
L192[12:43:57] <AmandaC> eg: %addcommand meow /me ignores [user], takes a nap.
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L194[12:44:36] <Inari> :p
L195[12:44:45] <Inari> I'd rather it turns messages into cat puns
L196[12:44:52] <Inari> Though that might be harder
L197[12:44:55] <AmandaC> Those seem to work much better in japanese
L198[12:45:25] <AmandaC> I can't think of many ways you could turn normal speach into cat puns.
L199[12:46:07] <Inari> Well, yeah
L200[12:46:21] <Inari> The tool Ifound online for it is quite bad too haha
L201[12:46:29] <Inari> "better" ->"bettpurr"
L202[12:46:31] <Inari> Just doesn't fit
L203[12:46:38] <Inari> * bettepurr
L204[12:48:33] <AmandaC> That's what I meant, english doesn't have the right combination of sounds, I don't think. At least, not in any words you'd normally use.
L205[12:53:48] <Forecaster> it could just extend r's :P
L206[12:54:03] <Forecaster> that's pretty much it in english I think
L207[12:55:40] <Forecaster> and replace certain words, for example "me" => "meow"
L208[12:59:16] <AmandaC> now -> meow
L209[12:59:17] <AmandaC> right meow
L210[12:59:31] <Forecaster> that's probably a better example yeah
L211[12:59:37] <Vexatos> just encode everything as LOLCODE
L212[13:00:06] <Forecaster> but it's not code
L213[13:00:42] <AmandaC> LOLCODE core when?
L214[13:00:48] <AmandaC> s/core/architecture/
L215[13:00:48] <MichiBot> <AmandaC> LOLCODE architecture when?
L216[13:03:34] <AmandaC> TIL you can hold torches in your off-hand and place them while mining with a right-click
L217[13:03:56] <Forecaster> that was one of the "main features" with the off hand...
L218[13:04:08] <Forecaster> you can do that with any block
L219[13:05:10] <AmandaC> Never knew that until I accidentally did it just now. :P
L220[13:24:23] <Inari> AmandaC: Yeah I was just agreeing with you :P
L221[13:25:03] <Inari> Haha
L222[13:25:07] <Inari> I still never use offhand for some reason
L223[13:35:44] <MGR> https://youtu.be/0ghGWWfzq-o?t=8m54s
L224[13:35:46] <MGR> Get out of my brain
L225[13:35:49] <MichiBot> Disney Bootlegs - JonTron | length: 20m 53s | Likes: 263,398 Dislikes: 2,938 Views: 10,191,511 | by JonTronShow | Published On 13/6/2016
L226[13:35:59] <Forecaster> oh dear
L227[13:36:03] <Forecaster> that genie...
L228[13:38:43] <MGR> The video just keeps getting worse
L229[13:41:55] <AmandaC> Inari: ah, sorry, I misparsed
L230[13:42:58] <AmandaC> I want to automate brewing, but I' not convinced it's possible to do with the default brewing stand, and AFAICT neighte Thermal Eng. nor RFTools add something to help with that.
L231[13:43:13] <AmandaC> s/neighte/neither/
L232[13:43:13] <MichiBot> <AmandaC> I want to automate brewing, but I' not convinced it's possible to do with the default brewing stand, and AFAICT neither Thermal Eng. nor RFTools add something to help with that.
L233[13:45:00] <Inari> AmandaC: seems normal wiht me :P I agree with someone and add an extra note to have them see my viewpoint (as to make sure one is on the same page) and somehow it sounds like not agreeing :P
L234[13:50:47] <Inari> Temia: Look how cute those are https://twitter.com/Strange_Animals/status/934870629861355520 *-*
L235[13:50:50] <MichiBot> Sun Nov 26 13:45:01 CST 2017 @Strange_Animals: The little auk has a wingspan of just 35cm & is 20cm long!
L236[13:52:45] <Inari> payonel: http://media.wallgif.com/gifs/24dad225312759a50ccf94db6d697b71f30f1472.gif
L237[13:53:09] <Temia> Awwww c:
L238[14:01:35] <MGR> @Forecaster Don't watch that video
L239[14:23:02] <Inari> Oddly entertaining https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSLmzjE_woQ :P
L240[14:23:02] <MichiBot> Secret Life Of Machines - The Lift aka Elevator (Full Length) | length: 24m 52s | Likes: 180 Dislikes: 0 Views: 25,449 | by Carl Lewis | Published On 25/9/2011
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L242[14:25:04] <DinnerBeef> @Vexatos, are you busy doing anything atm because it would be nice if you could help us finish the computer stuff for the remake of the pyramid map?
L243[14:25:26] <Forecaster> @MGR why?
L244[14:25:51] <MGR> @Forecaster It gets so bad, that your brain just starts dying
L245[14:25:52] <Inari> pyramid map? :o
L246[14:25:58] <MGR> I just lost 30% of my brain mass
L247[14:26:11] <Inari> Temia: Look temia, it's your arch enemy, DinnerBeef
L248[14:26:15] <DinnerBeef> yea the map is being rebuilt officially
L249[14:27:28] <Inari> Neat
L250[14:27:42] <Inari> What computer stuff? You're using OC to dipslay/exchange? (assumgin you mean the FTB pyramid stuff :P)
L251[14:27:52] <DinnerBeef> yea
L252[14:27:58] <Inari> Nice
L253[14:27:59] <DinnerBeef> they are where the quest thing are going to be
L254[14:28:10] <Temia> D:
L255[14:28:23] * Temia hides behind Inari!
L256[14:28:26] <DinnerBeef> he made most of the code for it we just need him to do the rest of it
L257[14:31:21] <Inari> %pet Temia
L258[14:31:21] * MichiBot pets Temia with gamax92's button. Temia recovers 3 health!, gamax92's button is eaten by a Grue.
L259[14:31:27] <Inari> :o
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L261[14:32:30] <DinnerBeef> lol unreal
L262[14:32:35] <DinnerBeef> you join after i say it
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L265[14:33:56] <Forecaster> I'm sensing a theme here...
L266[14:34:09] <DinnerBeef> ?
L267[14:35:14] <Vexatos> Well uuh, apart from actually using the unit mmHg for the first time in my life and calculating the enthalpy of combustion of n-pentane :I
L268[14:35:57] <AmandaC> Vexatos: stop making meth
L269[14:36:03] <DinnerBeef> lol
L270[14:36:11] <Vexatos> I don't think meth contains pentane
L271[14:36:23] <AmandaC> not the cheap shit, no
L272[14:36:30] <DinnerBeef> if you relay wanted it to it might
L273[14:37:13] <Vexatos> putting pentane on anything requires some effort
L274[14:38:53] <Vexatos> But no reputable chart seems to have pentane listed
L275[14:39:30] <DinnerBeef> wait what
L276[14:40:57] <Vexatos> HAHA FOUND ONE
L277[14:40:58] <Vexatos> thanks NIST
L278[14:41:16] <DinnerBeef> what is even going on in here
L279[14:41:20] <AmandaC> No idea
L280[14:41:32] <Vexatos> I am writing this week's lab report
L281[14:41:43] <DinnerBeef> ok so you are busy
L282[14:41:51] <Vexatos> And asie wrote most of the stuff, anyway
L283[14:41:58] <Vexatos> Which is a minor inconvenience :^)
L284[14:42:22] <DinnerBeef> fun
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L286[14:42:51] <DinnerBeef> we need the server part done so you can see other people quests that need to be done
L287[14:43:06] <DinnerBeef> mainly that
L288[14:46:14] <Temia> Oh, the wrists are probably just gatherer wristguards. *SUPER-LATE*
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L291[15:27:27] * Skye headpats Temia
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L305[15:36:25] <Mimiru> heh... I didn't think that through.
L306[15:38:59] <Forecaster> Cat merch!
L307[15:39:03] <Forecaster> https://www.meowingtons.com/collections/gift-guide
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L309[15:54:23] <Forecaster> I just ordered 2 things from there
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L311[16:15:27] * Temia leans into Skye's palm and tailswishes =w= muu.
L312[16:19:41] <Forecaster> https://www.meowingtons.com/collections/gift-guide/products/blue-cat-eye-necklace
L313[16:28:52] <kevin> does someone know if a chunkloader upgrade keeps the chunk loaded even if the player is offline? or only if he is online?
L314[16:29:18] <Izaya> offline
L315[16:29:29] <Izaya> or at least, should be like that
L316[16:30:25] <kevin> ok, thanks for the answer. could not find that in any docs.
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L323[16:54:12] <Forecaster> We're dropping a lot of bytes
L324[16:54:30] <MGR> @Forecaster I just watched a video even worse
L325[16:54:35] <MGR> I'm losing all my brain cells
L326[16:55:31] <Forecaster> :P
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L329[17:07:29] <Inari> CATSA, haha
L330[17:07:52] <Inari> https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0344/6469/products/paws-and-ears-cat-ring_large.jpg?v=1460739277 i have an armband like that
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L332[17:24:10] <AmandaC> %choose more Inu x Boku or try something else
L333[17:24:10] <MichiBot> AmandaC: try something else
L334[17:24:12] <AmandaC> hhrm
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L342[17:54:27] <payonel> Temia: hahah nice
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L345[17:56:24] <OneM_Industries> SO.
L346[17:56:40] <Izaya> So.
L347[17:56:43] <OneM_Industries> I've got a bit of a weird issue.
L348[17:56:57] <payonel> AmandaC: oom in lua shell and ... you want it to catch the oom error and be smarter or something?
L349[17:57:18] <OneM_Industries> I'm not sure if it is OC or enderio, so I am posing in both channels.
L350[17:57:41] <OneM_Industries> Occasionally, the server I am on crashes with the following log: https://pastebin.com/mY91PePx
L351[17:58:37] <payonel> OneM_Industries: does that happen when chunks load? when you place more conduit? when you attach more oc blocks to the conduits?
L352[17:58:55] <OneM_Industries> It's usually when chunks are loading/unloading.
L353[17:58:56] <payonel> if you can create a minimal repro and a github bug report, that'd be cool
L354[17:59:09] <payonel> OneM_Industries: what oc version?
L355[17:59:18] <Izaya> payonel: design question: would it be better to use a network port or a file fifo for my serial port?
L356[17:59:29] <Izaya> I'm thinking both could be useful
L357[17:59:38] <OneM_Industries> 1.6.2.1080-dev
L358[18:00:14] <payonel> OneM_Industries: that's a bit old
L359[18:00:22] <OneM_Industries> Ok.
L360[18:00:33] <payonel> what mc version?
L361[18:00:35] <payonel> 1.7.10?
L362[18:00:38] <OneM_Industries> 1.7.10.
L363[18:00:51] <payonel> OneM_Industries: http://ci.cil.li/job/OpenComputers-MC1.7.10/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/build/libs/OpenComputers-MC1.7.10-1.7.0.1113-universal.jar
L364[18:01:31] <payonel> Izaya: in this case fifo makes sense
L365[18:01:56] <payonel> but imo, it's not wrong to use a socket+port if you prefer
L366[18:01:56] <Izaya> but it'd be useful to have the option to bind a port, right?
L367[18:02:00] <payonel> yes
L368[18:02:43] <Izaya> so you could have one machine acting as a proxy/login thing and another acting as the host for the VMs
L369[18:02:55] <payonel> yeah, remote access is cleaner that way
L370[18:03:27] <payonel> if it is local, the fifo for this case is nice because you'll have a different path for each vm with its own fifo
L371[18:03:39] <Izaya> yeah
L372[18:03:46] <Izaya> you could even have it in the VM's dir
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L374[18:04:03] <Izaya> vmname/ttyS0, vmname/ttyS1 etc.
L375[18:04:13] <Izaya> ttyV0, for virtual :3
L376[18:04:48] <Temia> Mu? '^'
L377[18:05:09] <Izaya> or I could just have it so you could set the name
L378[18:05:10] * Izaya shrugs
L379[18:05:59] <payonel> well definitely, and the component class you make will inherit a client() method that gives it a pointer to the vm client. to get the client path you just use client()->envPath()
L380[18:06:51] <payonel> so like, string ttys0_path = client()->envPath() + "/ttyS0"
L381[18:08:57] <payonel> OneM_Industries: if you are able to retest and it repros, let me know and perhaps we can figure out a nice repro
L382[18:09:30] <OneM_Industries> I'm currently attempting to set up my test instance with just EIO and OC>
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L384[18:10:33] <OneM_Industries> It's been happening every few hours on the server though, so reproducing it will probably not be an issue.
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L389[18:11:54] <Izaya> payonel: I'm very bad at this can I bug you with questions
L390[18:16:18] <Izaya> Huh, ocvm EEPROMs don't have a set method?
L391[18:16:23] <payonel> Izaya: you can bug me with questions until i'm blue in the face
L392[18:16:31] <payonel> Izaya: sure they do :/
L393[18:16:40] <Izaya> I may be using an old version
L394[18:16:44] <payonel> oh
L395[18:16:47] <payonel> HA
L396[18:16:48] <payonel> sec
L397[18:16:58] <payonel> haha....
L398[18:16:59] <payonel> um
L399[18:17:01] <payonel> i forgot
L400[18:17:03] <payonel> about that one :)
L401[18:17:06] <Izaya> well
L402[18:17:11] * payonel runs to code it real fast
L403[18:17:29] <Izaya> I mean you don't really need it for the thing to work
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L405[18:17:53] <Izaya> it just means you can't write to it from a computer
L406[18:18:01] <payonel> yeah, which is why i forgot about it :)
L407[18:18:08] <AmandaC> payonel: I'm just assuming it's happening when trying to serialize a very long list (needed two 3.5 memory to get the component to even be able to return the list)
L408[18:18:25] <payonel> AmandaC: which comp and what list?
L409[18:18:54] <AmandaC> Refined storage, and my craftable list
L410[18:19:01] <payonel> OneM_Industries: it's always an issue for me to repro :)
L411[18:19:05] <payonel> "works on my box"
L412[18:19:18] <OneM_Industries> Yeah, this one especially.
L413[18:19:22] <payonel> OneM_Industries: and providing a minimal repro is super nice for devs
L414[18:19:30] <AmandaC> I use lots of patterns because I'm very lazy
L415[18:19:49] <OneM_Industries> 99% of the time, nothing happens. But that 1%, the entire server crashes.
L416[18:19:55] <payonel> AmandaC: can you take a screen shot of the derpy failure?
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L418[18:21:07] <Izaya> payonel: for the path can I use return client()->envPath() + config().get(ConfigIndex::path)
L419[18:21:08] <payonel> or does it just go back to prompt?
L420[18:21:09] <AmandaC> payonel: I'll do that tomorrow, getting ready to unwind for today soon
L421[18:21:18] <payonel> AmandaC: cool
L422[18:21:18] <Izaya> I assume I'll need to define that configIndex::path somewhere too
L423[18:21:27] <AmandaC> payonel: it crashes lua.lua entirely
L424[18:21:36] <AmandaC> Back to the Shell
L425[18:21:48] <payonel> AmandaC: i meant does, yeah, that prompt (i wasn't clear on that)
L426[18:24:57] <OneM_Industries> payonel: Ok, this one may be a bit of a problem to track down.
L427[18:25:04] <payonel> OneM_Industries: :)
L428[18:25:18] <payonel> Izaya: yeah, i recommend defaults for those paths
L429[18:25:27] <payonel> but addition config support is fine
L430[18:27:02] <AmandaC> Oh right, I meant to bug you about mounting non-lootdisk filesystems
L431[18:27:38] <AmandaC> Then I ended up doing a directory traversal kludge instead
L432[18:28:10] <payonel> Izaya: so: string path = client()->envPath() + "/" + config().get(ConfigIndex::Path).Or("ttyS0").toString()
L433[18:28:21] <payonel> AmandaC: in ocvm?
L434[18:28:43] <AmandaC> Yes hello, ocvm please mount the lootdisk named .././../Projects/..
L435[18:29:27] <AmandaC> payonel: yeah. I've not tested but I suspect you may have addressed it with ~ support?
L436[18:29:28] <payonel> AmandaC: the trouble i have is that relative paths for filesystems are to the ocvm dir, that's where system/ is found
L437[18:29:48] <Izaya> this is going to be a horror show I hardly know C++
L438[18:29:53] <payonel> so either .././../Projects/.. will have to be relative to ocvm, or, use abs paths
L439[18:30:17] <payonel> Izaya: well and you're digging into my project, so there's learning that too
L440[18:30:38] <AmandaC> I tried an abs path first, it interpreted it as local
L441[18:30:52] <payonel> then i have a weird bug
L442[18:31:16] <payonel> {"filesystem", nil, "/path/to/custom/lootdisk"}
L443[18:31:19] <payonel> should be sufficient
L444[18:31:20] <payonel> i'll test
L445[18:31:26] <payonel> in a bit
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L447[18:34:00] <Izaya> so I discovered an issue iwth having a matte black laptop
L448[18:34:01] <Izaya> they heat up like a bitch in the sun
L449[18:34:05] <payonel> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/2647
L450[18:34:19] <payonel> right after this one: https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/2646
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L453[18:39:07] <AmandaC> Soni pls
L454[18:39:13] <OneM_Industries> payonel: I may have found a clue, the offending conduit in that crash is one block outside the chunk that the rest of the network is in.]
L455[18:39:42] <payonel> Izaya: Eeprom::set added
L456[18:39:59] <payonel> OneM_Industries: ha, nice
L457[18:40:10] <MGR> Soni needs to not open multiple issues for the same thing
L458[18:40:11] <payonel> well if that is the case, a little null check might be appropriate
L459[18:40:52] <AmandaC> Pfft, Chuck Norris doesn't need to check for nulls, why should oc?
L460[18:41:57] <MGR> Chuck Norris doesn't debug, he stares down the code until it confeses
L461[18:42:02] <MGR> Chuck Norris doesn't debug, he stares down the code until it confesses [Edited]
L462[18:42:28] <MGR> Major General Relativity doesn't debug, he stares down the code until he confesses
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L464[18:44:24] <OneM_Industries> Oh hello, this log is a different error.
L465[18:44:28] <AmandaC> MGR doesn't debug, he just bugs
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L467[18:47:25] <payonel> hmm..well i hope soni doesn't spam. i can't block them from oc github, only sangar can
L468[18:51:28] <MGR> AmandaC, only when I feel like it ?
L469[18:51:41] <MGR> I try to keep it to a minimum though
L470[18:51:56] <payonel> AmandaC: hmm..i was able to mount a custom "loot" disk not in the system/ dir
L471[18:52:43] <payonel> tested relative and abs
L472[18:52:50] <payonel> relative from ocvm, NOT the vm
L473[18:53:11] <AmandaC> payonel: you may have fixed it since I last tried, it was awhile ago
L474[18:53:36] <payonel> possible, i did add pathing smartness to ocvm recently
L475[18:53:45] <payonel> such as, the log file is now local to the vm dir
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L480[20:22:28] <S3> hm that's some fucked up stuff
L481[20:22:45] <S3> I just noticed -also- the 1.3 million bot posts on anti net neutrality
L482[20:26:05] <Xal> f r e e a n d o p e n i n t e r n e t
L483[20:28:14] <S3> It's dumb because if this repeal happens and we lose net neutrality, and if net neutrality actually becomes a problem, it's going to effect all of the average internet users the most, it will effect everyone somehow, and likely others will be stuck back in the dark ages of the Internet in underground communities just to do normal, legal Internet things
L484[20:30:15] <S3> It will be like the days of hidden BBS services and network gateways through university clubs with all of the bandwidth
L485[20:30:23] <S3> except, witrh a much more stable connection and scalability
L486[20:50:16] <gamax92> Playing with Blender and Unity
L487[20:59:49] <AmandaC> Don't you hate when a light the definitely exists keeps blinking, but only in your peripheral vision?
L488[21:00:06] <AmandaC> s/the/that/
L489[21:00:06] <MichiBot> <AmandaC> Don't you hate when a light that definitely exists keeps blinking, but only in your peripheral vision?
L490[21:00:36] <AmandaC> %newtopic
L491[21:00:36] <MichiBot> AmandaC: #2 Hey did you hear that tterrag denies RWTema's attitude is amazing
L492[21:01:30] <AmandaC> One day I'll not misread RWTema was Temia. Today is not that day
L493[21:03:01] <gamax92> AmandaC: cloth physics
L494[21:04:16] <AmandaC> gamax92: I'm guessing more likely just something reflecting off my glasses. Uh, I mean, a trolling blinking light
L495[21:04:23] <gamax92> though, I think I'd have to split the mesh up, and then have the clothy parts collide with the not cloth
L496[21:04:59] <gamax92> and or play with scripts
L497[21:45:02] <Kodos> Well I wasn't planning on crying today but I guess that's out the window now
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L499[21:54:42] <AmandaC> @Kodos: I told you cutting onions was a bad idea
L500[21:54:59] <Kodos> Nah. End of gotg vol 2
L501[21:55:12] <AmandaC> Gotg?
L502[21:59:11] <SAL9000> Guardians of the Galaxy, I assume
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L504[22:02:18] <gamax92> Going Out To Grink
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L511[22:26:48] <AmandaC> Ah
L512[22:27:17] * AmandaC yawns a big ol' kitty yawn, curls up for sleep
L513[22:27:20] <AmandaC> Night nerds
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