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L1[00:05:06] <Izaya> I've ended up switching all my i386 machines to Debian
L2[00:05:13] <Izaya> (or weirder stuff, \o/)
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L5[00:16:09] <gamax92> Temia: oh, did not know that was a thing
L6[00:16:24] <gamax92> good ol shitty atom netbooks
L7[00:16:55] <Izaya> ^
L8[00:17:18] * Izaya just installed debian on 3 of them over the network
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L24[00:48:35] <Izaya> so I enabled 4x screenshot resolution
L25[00:48:38] <Izaya> made my GPU OOM
L26[00:48:41] <Izaya> nice
L27[00:54:21] <xarses> gj
L28[00:59:38] <Izaya> https://i.imgur.com/EWnjTnZ.png
L29[01:02:07] <Izaya> I imagine this is why the last one died
L30[01:03:09] <Izaya> I'm gonna turn the shader settings down a bit
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L44[01:09:50] <Izaya> ... I might turn actual shaders off because otherwise it still bakes at 90C
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L46[01:09:58] <Izaya> I need to clean the heatsink on it at some point >.>
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L52[01:19:16] <brandon3055> Is it just me and CB's jenkins or is the OC maven having issues? Cant seem to reach http://maven.cil.li/li/cil/oc/OpenComputers/maven-metadata.xml
L53[01:24:30] <Forecaster> https://xkcd.com/1913/
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L55[01:24:36] <MichiBot> XKCD Comic Name: A � Posted on: 11/8/2017
L56[01:51:44] <payonel> brandon3055: o/
L57[01:51:56] <brandon3055> Hi!
L58[01:52:12] <payonel> brandon3055: you trying to pull a build ?
L59[01:52:46] <payonel> i don't know what is going on with maven.cil.li -- but what specifically did you need?
L60[01:52:59] <brandon3055> Trying to make a build but jenkins cant access the OC maven
L61[01:53:30] <payonel> oh wait .. ci.cil.li is also not responding
L62[01:53:32] <payonel> the world is ending!!!
L63[01:53:39] <payonel> Michiyo: you awake?
L64[01:54:10] <Izaya> p a n i c
L65[01:54:14] * payonel panics
L66[01:54:40] <brandon3055> Its ok.. Its only the world ending again. No big deal
L67[01:54:43] <payonel> brandon3055: i just pushed a few builds like 2 hours ago. it they succeeded
L68[01:54:58] <payonel> and* they succeeded
L69[01:55:00] <Izaya> tfw automated the AE hand crank
L70[01:57:10] <payonel> gamax92: who maintains cil.li ?
L71[02:03:48] <Skye> payonel, the forms by Lizzy I think and everything else by Sangar?
L72[02:04:55] <Skye> @Lizzy, your IRC connection died I think
L73[02:06:09] <Lizzy> Just mine or the bouncer as well?
L74[02:06:36] <Skye> Uh
L75[02:06:40] <Skye> Can't tell...
L76[02:07:40] <Izaya> think it's the bouncer
L77[02:08:01] <Skye> Apparently OVH is down according to a friend who has an OVH server...
L78[02:08:04] <Lizzy> ah, looks like my dedi died
L79[02:08:39] <Lizzy> hmm, yeah. it would seem that OVH is having issues and there is not much i can do about that
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L81[02:09:17] <Forecaster> am I offline as well then?
L82[02:09:22] <Lizzy> yes
L83[02:09:46] <Lizzy> you are on my bouncer, which is on a virtual server, on my dedi, which is hosted by ovh, who are having issues
L84[02:11:08] <Forecaster> hm
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L86[02:13:08] <Forecaster> ah well, I don't really care if there's a log gap I guess
L87[02:13:09] <Lizzy> ah, according to ovh's status twitter they have an electrical dysfunction
L88[02:13:32] <Forecaster> I could try to shut my connection and connect directly for now but eh
L89[02:16:24] <payonel> @lizzy anyone besides sangar have access to cil.li ?
L90[02:16:58] <Lizzy> Sangar is the one who has full domain access
L91[02:17:30] <Lizzy> i have control of where the forums point to but that's only because oc.cil.li is actually just cname'ing to my domain
L92[02:18:49] <Lizzy> right, i must depart for work. everything _should_ come back when the power does, if not then it'll have to wait till i can get home to fix ir
L93[02:19:14] <payonel> ok. it's just that maven., ci, and ocdoc. are not responding
L94[02:19:16] <payonel> :(
L95[02:24:57] <Lizzy> Probably because they're on ovh,which is having issues right now
L96[02:36:48] <Lizzy> @here The OC Forums, maven, jenkins and documentation sites are currently down due to issues with the hosting providers network, unsure of an ETA when they will be back
L97[02:37:36] <SentientTurtle> F
L98[02:38:05] <Izaya> F
L99[02:38:34] <Forecaster> F indeed
L100[02:38:50] <Izaya> oh hey, my board supports 5th-gen core-iWhatever chips, were there any worthwhile 5th gen ones or is the 4790k still king of 4 cores?
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L106[03:14:19] <KoxFox> welp
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L122[03:34:13] <Lizzy> Oooh, stuff might be coming back
L123[03:34:50] <Lizzy> Forums are back!
L124[03:34:55] <Forecaster> yep, I seem to be connected again
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L126[03:35:06] <Forecaster> gitlab is back online
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L134[03:39:39] <Lizzy> Izaya, please check the VPS i host for you, it should be back
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L137[03:46:29] <brandon3055_> payonel, Yay the world has stopped ending!!!
L138[03:46:47] <brandon3055_> Atleast until my reactor blows...
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L145[04:02:00] <Skye> Welcome back Lizzy
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L147[04:03:51] <Lizzy> i mean, i've been here a while but whatever
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L150[04:08:11] <Skye> :P
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L154[04:15:55] <Forecaster> you were too sneaky, or sky failed a notice check
L155[04:16:57] <Corded> * <Lizzy> blames skye
L156[04:17:43] * Skye sneaks away
L157[04:19:58] <Forecaster> https://www.facebook.com/75187954673/videos/958017967687318/
L158[04:22:07] <Skye> Haha
L159[04:22:07] <Skye> OpenTTD was down
L160[04:22:07] <Skye> Because they use OVH
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L165[04:37:43] <Saphire> heya!
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L167[04:39:28] * Izaya boredly considers making magnetic adaptors for normal DC power connectors
L168[04:39:42] <Izaya> might as well give my thinkpad a magsafe clone
L169[04:47:06] * Skye neps at Saphire
L170[04:48:37] <Lizzy> Izaya, did oyu see my earlier message?
L171[04:48:40] <Lizzy> *you
L172[04:48:50] <Izaya> Lizzy: oh right
L173[04:48:52] <Izaya> will do
L174[04:49:17] * Saphire meeps
L175[04:49:20] <Forecaster> or will you? more at 11!
L176[04:49:26] <Forecaster> what's a nep
L177[04:49:32] <Saphire> ^
L178[04:57:16] <Skye> @Forecaster, Saphire: a nep is a cute noise a nep nep makes. https://files.catbox.moe/4v66n3.PNG
L179[04:58:02] <Forecaster> I see
L180[04:58:32] <Skye> You should play it
L181[04:59:05] <Forecaster> play what?
L182[05:00:24] <Skye> Hyperdimension Neptunia
L183[05:01:59] <Forecaster> Doesn't really look like my kind of thing :P
L184[05:14:44] <Skye> Play it
L185[05:14:45] <Skye> And nep
L186[05:38:05] <Izaya> http://i.4cdn.org/g/1510226658168.gif
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L193[05:51:21] <Izaya> S3: http://i.4cdn.org/g/1510205403114.jpg
L194[05:53:04] <Skye> Is that blood
L195[05:53:19] <Izaya> just water cooling fluid
L196[05:53:22] <Izaya> whatever tf that's made of
L197[05:53:24] <Izaya> might be blood
L198[05:53:37] <Izaya> anyway, that's a pump out of a car
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L203[06:07:59] <MGR> Izaya, https://www.anandtech.com/show/9320/intel-broadwell-review-i7-5775c-i5-5675c
L204[06:08:27] <MGR> Pretty similar to the 4790K, but has a L4 cache and massive jump in iGPU performance
L205[06:13:56] <MGR> In other news, Intel is making dedicated GPUs now
L206[06:14:54] <SAL9000> :o
L207[06:15:07] <MGR> Yep
L208[06:15:08] <Forecaster> https://loadingartist.com/comic/hook-line-and-thinker/
L209[06:15:26] <MGR> Darn it, you beat me before I could check all my comics...
L210[06:15:48] <MGR> Haha
L211[06:16:00] <Forecaster> or did I
L212[06:16:10] <MGR> http://dilbert.com/strip/2017-11-09
L213[06:25:11] <Izaya> I'm unsure how this happened but I'm watching recordings of Terry Davis livestreams
L214[06:26:21] <MGR> Izaya, did you see my link to the 5th gen i7?
L215[06:26:26] <Forecaster> "Creator of TempleOS, bilical-themed OS" ...
L216[06:26:29] <Forecaster> okay then....
L217[06:26:43] <Izaya> Forecaster: he's a total loon it's wonderful
L218[06:26:46] <Forecaster> biblical*
L219[06:27:21] <MGR> "Being from a rich home, these devices usually have orders of magnitude more liquid then the cheaper counterparts as if the user himself challenged the device to work through a deluge of water/coffee/milk/etc." --- Quote 1/3
L220[06:27:36] <MGR> I got the "'s you requested @Forecaster ?
L221[06:27:37] <Forecaster> what does he livestream about, I asked out of morbid curiosity
L222[06:27:48] <Izaya> mostly TempleOS development
L223[06:27:50] <Izaya> but sometimes rants
L224[06:28:01] <Forecaster> I see
L225[06:28:07] <Forecaster> what are the rants about? :P
L226[06:28:44] <Izaya> lots of things, people, his ex, the "CIA niggers" direct quote btw
L227[06:28:44] <SAL9000> the unholiness and devilry that is normal operating systems, probably?
L228[06:29:57] <Forecaster> I'm not particularly surprised by that, despite knowing nothing about him
L229[06:44:07] <MGR> ~w custom os
L230[06:44:07] <ocdoc> Predicted http://ocd.cil.li/tutorial:custom_oses
L231[06:46:54] <MGR> "PurSales: On my home computer I got it from here, but I can’t download it. When I tried moving it with USB drives it failed. Me: This is spyware. I honestly couldn’t believe someone wanted to install BonziBuddy." --- Quote 2/3
L232[06:46:59] <MGR> Not BonziBuddy....
L233[06:48:29] <Forecaster> TIL: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GIFT
L234[06:48:58] <MGR> Yes....
L235[06:49:06] <MGR> I knew that link tingled my memory centers
L236[06:49:15] <Corded> * <MGR> has absorbed most of TvTropes
L237[06:49:24] <MGR> @Forecaster You should probably close that tab before it's too late
L238[06:49:42] <Corded> * <Forecaster> stares vacantly
L239[06:49:44] <Forecaster> hm
L240[06:50:15] <MGR> Escape!
L241[06:51:23] <MGR> https://www.pcworld.com/article/130638/article.html
L242[06:51:26] <MGR> AOL disks....
L243[06:53:13] <Izaya> https://hooktube.com/watch?v=tLENZH6gZig Forecaster, skip through that at random and you'll get a p. good idea
L244[06:59:07] <Forecaster> I may later tonight when I get home
L245[07:07:55] <MGR> "Some things just aren't meant to be done while walking or driving, and one of them is watching DVDs. Unfortunately, that message was lost on Eyetop.net, makers of the Eyetop Wearable DVD Player." --- Quote 3/3
L246[07:08:06] <MGR> So, Google Glass, but much earlier, and even worse
L247[07:13:08] <Izaya> https://www.anandtech.com/show/12017/intel-to-develop-discrete-gpus-hires-raja-koduri-as-chief-architect man I wonder if this will end up like the other two projects
L248[07:13:19] <MGR> Maybe
L249[07:13:42] <MGR> It'll be interesting either way
L250[07:13:58] <Izaya> an Intel GPU is hardly something I'm overly interested in though, AMD has a free-as-in-freedom driver stack and reasonably performant cards
L251[07:14:04] * Izaya hmms
L252[07:14:12] <Izaya> RISC-V soon, too...
L253[07:15:01] <MGR> AMD's graphics cards don't always have the best power efficiency
L254[07:15:12] <MGR> Or the high-end performance ?
L255[07:16:24] <Izaya> https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=mbp-1013-gaming&num=2 jesus I had no idea OS X OpenGL sucked that hard
L256[07:16:46] <Izaya> [totally not procrastinating by going through my news]
L257[07:25:35] <LuMistry> Greetings
L258[07:25:44] <Izaya> o/
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L260[07:25:51] <LuMistry> How are you Izaya?
L261[07:26:14] <Izaya> Not bad, configuring debian automatic netinstalls.
L262[07:26:16] <Izaya> Yourself?
L263[07:26:34] <LuMistry> I am doing well, thank you
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L267[08:12:08] <Forecaster> okay, so I had a look at the video while on a break
L268[08:12:24] <Forecaster> holy jeff what a bunch of moronic drivel
L269[08:12:34] <Forecaster> and I probably didn't even watch a minute of it
L270[08:14:17] <Izaya> yeah he's a piece of work
L271[08:14:28] <Izaya> I find it mildly entertaining though
L272[08:14:48] <Forecaster> I just spent 99% of the < 1 minute cringing
L273[08:15:01] <Izaya> yup
L274[08:16:44] <Forecaster> I can't comprehend how someone can be so blatantly racist...
L275[08:17:16] <MGR> You'd be surprised....
L276[08:18:08] <Forecaster> no
L277[08:18:08] <Arcanitor> I can.
L278[08:18:32] <Arcanitor> You have probably met people from many different cultural backgrounds.
L279[08:19:03] <Arcanitor> Imagine someone who hasn't, and someone who has been taught throughout their childhood to think of people from cultures other than his own as less than human.
L280[08:19:21] <Arcanitor> It is easy to hate someone if you dehumanize them.
L281[08:19:31] <Forecaster> I know, I still can't comprehend it
L282[08:20:09] <MGR> I can understand that. There's plenty of other things I can't wrap my mind around
L283[08:20:17] <Izaya> I had an ex that was totally brainwashed, it was like there was something taped over part of their logical process
L284[08:21:04] <Izaya> some things made total sense, others were 9000% out there and I just couldn't understand them
L285[08:21:28] <Forecaster> You mean you _have_ an ex, I hope
L286[08:21:45] <ben_mkiv> xD
L287[08:22:13] <Izaya> Uh, yeah, have.
L288[08:22:22] * Izaya pushes the axe under the couch
L289[08:22:49] * Arcanitor pulls a dagger out of Izaya's pocket
L290[08:23:10] <Izaya> ???
L291[08:24:04] * AshIndigo takes the dagger from arcanitor
L292[08:24:20] <SAL9000> %give MichiBot Izaya's dagger
L293[08:24:20] * MichiBot accepts Izaya's dagger and adds it to her inventory
L294[08:26:28] <Forecaster> Huh, Stardew Valley is getting multiplayer apparently
L295[08:26:36] <AmandaC> yup
L296[08:26:43] <AmandaC> It was announced when it was launched
L297[08:28:06] <AmandaC> He was having some trouble with it, and decided it'd be better to launch it withou tthe multiplayer than delay it further, since it was perfectly playable in single-player
L298[08:28:27] <Forecaster> oh
L299[08:28:39] <Forecaster> Chucklefish is making another game called Spellbound
L300[08:29:06] <Forecaster> Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/onuriquhuq
L301[08:29:58] <Forecaster> so it's like Stardew valley meets harry potter kindof
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L305[08:44:44] zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L306[08:55:19] <Michiyo> http://mashable.com/2017/11/08/amazon-alexa-rave-party-germany/
L307[08:56:22] <MGR> Lol
L308[08:56:57] <Corded> * <LuMistry> opens an internal ticket
L309[09:00:57] <Forecaster> Maybe he should've pulled the plug when leaving home :P
L310[09:01:12] <MGR> That probably would have worked
L311[09:02:00] <Temia> I think going the route of throwing it out is the most prudent one.
L312[09:02:15] <MGR> That would definitely have worked
L313[09:02:52] <Izaya> having a device listening to everything you say seems weird
L314[09:02:56] <Izaya> oh wait phones
L315[09:03:05] <Izaya> oh wait laptops
L316[09:03:11] <Izaya> y'know maybe it's not so weird
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L318[09:05:49] <Corded> * <LuMistry> nods
L319[09:06:17] <Skye> A device acting on its own based on what I say?
L320[09:07:16] <ben_mkiv> sounds like my brain
L321[09:07:23] <ben_mkiv> listening to what i'm saying, but doing what it wants
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L326[09:42:24] <MGR> %ohno
L327[09:42:24] <MichiBot> ohno
L328[09:42:33] <Michiyo> %ohyeah
L329[09:42:35] <AshIndigo> %ohyes
L330[09:42:37] <Michiyo> :P
L331[09:42:45] <MGR> :/
L332[09:42:55] <MGR> Those commands do not exist....
L333[09:43:09] <AshIndigo> s/do not/should
L334[09:43:09] <MichiBot> <MGR> Those commands should exist....
L335[09:43:15] <MGR> No
L336[09:43:40] <AshIndigo> ;)
L337[09:44:04] <vifino> Vexatos: tty.sh is dead, i0i0.me is dead, all my shit is dead. also includes *.vex.
L338[09:44:17] <Vexatos> nice >_>
L339[09:44:20] <vifino> Feel free to yell at me, because I don't feel bad enough.
L340[09:44:30] <Vexatos> what even happened >_>
L341[09:44:50] <Michiyo> %addcommand ohyeah OH YEAH! https://michi.pc-logix.com/2017-11-09_09-44-41.png
L342[09:44:51] <MichiBot> Michiyo: Command Added
L343[09:44:59] <AshIndigo> %ohyeah
L344[09:44:59] <MichiBot> OH YEAH! https://michi.pc-logix.com/2017-11-09_09-44-41.png
L345[09:45:03] <vifino> OVH did some maintainance, apparently. supposedly it was gonna be off for about a minute.
L346[09:45:15] <vifino> and with "off" i only mean the network.
L347[09:45:19] <AshIndigo> There we go!
L348[09:45:24] <vifino> but no, a few hours later, it was off for 4 hours.
L349[09:45:26] <vifino> hard off.
L350[09:45:31] <Vexatos> well yes OVH died today
L351[09:45:35] <Vexatos> but that happened to everyone
L352[09:45:41] <Michiyo> well "everyone"
L353[09:46:04] <AmandaC> their DC lost power, and the backup generators didn't start, AIUI
L354[09:46:13] <Lizzy> my stuff lost network access, still had power though
L355[09:46:13] <Vexatos> Yea
L356[09:46:17] <Vexatos> severe server failure
L357[09:46:20] <Lizzy> AmandaC, one of them did
L358[09:46:23] <Vexatos> :P
L359[09:46:27] <Lizzy> or rather, one area
L360[09:46:28] <Michiyo> I'm in one of the Canadian DCs, had no issue
L361[09:46:40] <vifino> well yeah, but the virtual machine i do most of my stuff with corrupted. now everything segfaults, including init.
L362[09:46:44] <Lizzy> i think it was mainly the europe ones
L363[09:46:47] <gamax92> can confirm lack of issue here
L364[09:46:48] <Lizzy> :/
L365[09:46:55] <Corded> * <Lizzy> hugs vifino
L366[09:46:59] <vifino> been trying to fix it for hours, it's trash.
L367[09:47:28] <Vexatos> maybe contact support? I don't know
L368[09:47:40] <vifino> i can probably rescue a few files, but that machine won't start.
L369[09:47:42] <Lizzy> i doubt they can get back the corrupt daa
L370[09:48:19] <Vexatos> Michiyo, pretty sure it was the place in France that derped
L371[09:48:28] <vifino> and when i speak of corruption, i mean that absolutely no binary or library seems to work without segfaulting.
L372[09:48:33] <Lizzy> one of them, vex
L373[09:48:35] <vifino> and i have no fucking clue why.
L374[09:48:38] <Vexatos> yea
L375[09:48:41] <MGR> That sucks
L376[09:48:56] <Temia> :<
L377[09:48:56] <Vexatos> vifino, can't you yell at OVH for corrupting your machine?
L378[09:49:00] <AmandaC> that sounds more like a host issue with the RAM.
L379[09:49:14] <vifino> AmandaC: except the host works fine.
L380[09:49:14] <Vexatos> Actually yes
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L382[09:49:35] <Vexatos> I had a RAM failure over a year ago, that wasn't nice >_<
L383[09:49:44] <vifino> other machines seem to work, too.
L384[09:49:50] <vifino> just not the one i actually give a shit about.
L385[09:50:18] <Lizzy> did you have any backups of it?
L386[09:50:45] <vifino> old ones, sure. i got most of the data, but the machine itself is fucked.
L387[09:50:55] <Lizzy> :/
L388[09:51:02] <vifino> i can probably recover my websites.
L389[09:52:22] <Vexatos> I feel like this is something that OVH should be fixing >_<
L390[09:52:33] <Vexatos> Transfer you to a non-broken machine or something :I
L391[09:52:49] <vifino> again, the machine is fine.
L392[09:52:53] <vifino> the virtual machine is not.
L393[09:52:54] <Lizzy> except, as vifi said, it's not the machine
L394[09:53:20] <vifino> all they did was have a power outage. just happened to fuck me really badly.
L395[09:53:47] <XDjackieXD> wait. power outage and no UPS on their server? o.O
L396[09:54:01] <AmandaC> XDjackieXD: the backup generators failed to start
L397[09:54:06] <vifino> i don't know what happened.
L398[09:54:31] <XDjackieXD> AmandaC: even then they should have enough battery to gracefully shut down everything
L399[09:54:32] <Lizzy> the 2 20kV lines going to one of the datacenters broke from what i read
L400[09:54:45] <Lizzy> how a 20kV power line just 'breaks' i don't know
L401[09:54:57] <XDjackieXD> under ground or over ground?
L402[09:54:59] <SAL9000> a REALLY persistent bird
L403[09:55:03] <MGR> It's a software issue @Lizzy ?
L404[09:55:06] <Lizzy> i don't know
L405[09:55:12] <Lizzy> ?
L406[09:55:30] <AmandaC> XDjackieXD: the batteries only last a few minutes, just enough time to spin up the generators
L407[09:55:37] <XDjackieXD> because a over-ground wire breaks pretty easily during storms and we had some pretty bad ones about a week ago
L408[09:55:50] <AmandaC> You can't keep an entire datacentre running for long on any reasonable amount of batteries
L409[09:55:52] <vifino> Vexatos: i got /var/www and at least some part of /home, so most if not all stuff you care about i have.
L410[09:56:04] <vifino> my home's probably lacking a few directories.
L411[09:56:15] <XDjackieXD> AmandaC: you can. enough time to start the generator so usually about 5 minutes
L412[09:56:35] <AmandaC> XDjackieXD: yes, and the generators failed to start
L413[09:57:10] <XDjackieXD> AmandaC: 5minutes is more than enough to trigger a shutdown command to your hosts once you noticed that the generator is defective
L414[09:57:48] <Lizzy> looking at OVH's monitoring system, they have a lot of servers in the SBG Datacenters that are still out of action for about 9 hours...
L415[09:57:52] <AmandaC> XDjackieXD: depends on how quickly they notice the generators have failed
L416[09:59:11] <XDjackieXD> AmandaC: you *will* notice quite quickly that your gen doesn't start. as an admin you will notice because someone that has control over the generator will will call you in panic and said "master of the generator" will notice because hell breaks loose in his monitoring system
L417[09:59:23] <XDjackieXD> at least that's what I know from large datacenters here in vienna
L418[09:59:45] <XDjackieXD> (and from a hospital but I guess that that doesn't count for obvious reasons)
L419[10:00:31] <Vexatos> vifino, I mean, couldn't you issue my subdomains to point to Michiyo's server instead to """fix""" the website being down?
L420[10:00:58] <vifino> not in any decent timeframe.
L421[10:01:01] <XDjackieXD> vifino: what did actually break of your vm? the FS?
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L423[10:01:15] <vifino> XDjackieXD: yeah, but it's weird breakage
L424[10:01:21] <XDjackieXD> o.O
L425[10:01:25] <vifino> like, the journal and shit is fine
L426[10:01:27] <XDjackieXD> what fs type?
L427[10:01:29] <vifino> ext4
L428[10:01:36] <vifino> just... the data is trash
L429[10:01:41] <XDjackieXD> tried extundelete?
L430[10:01:52] <vifino> it's not deleted. it's trash.
L431[10:02:03] <vifino> it's like someone went over the hdd with a magnet.
L432[10:02:13] <vifino> just.. happend to skip the fs parts.
L433[10:02:47] <XDjackieXD> that... that soudns impossible on a raid system without the whole VM host being dead o.O
L434[10:02:59] <vifino> i haven't a clue.
L435[10:03:08] <vifino> but, well, it was dead for a while.
L436[10:03:53] <XDjackieXD> if you are booted into a recovery system, try extundelete. I'd be interested if it'll find something. maybe something screwed up the "file posititons" in the fs
L437[10:04:01] <XDjackieXD> unlikely but possible
L438[10:04:03] <vifino> the host booted fine.
L439[10:04:10] <vifino> just that one vm.
L440[10:04:18] <XDjackieXD> I suppose you don't have backups?
L441[10:04:45] <vifino> not any useful ones.
L442[10:05:27] <XDjackieXD> vifino: take this as an opportunity to learn that backups are important :P
L443[10:05:36] <vifino> no shit.
L444[10:05:44] <gamax92> >this situation seems familiar
L445[10:05:54] <Corded> * <Lizzy> also needs to learn that
L446[10:06:07] <vifino> gamax92: same vm you saved last time.
L447[10:06:13] <vifino> it finally died.
L448[10:06:23] <vifino> had a good run, lasted a while.
L449[10:06:44] <gamax92> and in what seems like the same problem as the last issue
L450[10:07:06] <vifino> then i probably described it wrong.
L451[10:07:19] <vifino> it mounts fine, the fs itself is functional.
L452[10:07:43] <vifino> just... some data's trash. probably all of /usr.
L453[10:07:53] <gamax92> oh, I see
L454[10:07:55] <vifino> (or at least most)
L455[10:08:12] <vifino> ((or at least some, given that i am too lazy to check everything))
L456[10:08:26] <Forecaster> backups are always unimportant until after you needed them...
L457[10:08:35] <vifino> every binary i tried segfaults, every library does so too.
L458[10:08:53] <vifino> the kernel on the same partition is fine, it seems.
L459[10:09:26] <Lizzy> The disaster recovery officer at my work said that "DR is just lots of money down the drain until you need it"
L460[10:09:40] <gamax92> am curious about something, if possible I'd like to look at it again
L461[10:09:42] <vifino> //var/www seems intact and /home too, so most important stuff is there.
L462[10:10:02] <ben_mkiv> rule #1 make a backup of the failed vm
L463[10:10:04] <ben_mkiv> before you do recovery
L464[10:10:24] <vifino> gamax92: i'll save you the time, all i really care about is /var/www and /home, rest is just effort.
L465[10:10:36] <ben_mkiv> and /etc :P
L466[10:10:37] <vifino> just gotta find the time to set up another thing.
L467[10:11:05] <vifino> ben_mkiv: /etc is indeed (selectively confirmed) fine.
L468[10:12:21] <vifino> so yeah, i get to have a TOTALLY FUN TIME setting up a new machine.
L469[10:12:47] <vifino> which is about time, really. lots of messy things in the now-dead one.
L470[10:14:23] <AmandaC> Hrm, This sounds like a good time to start a backup of ~/Code again
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L472[10:18:57] <gamax92> vifino: don't care, still wanna look at it
L473[10:19:52] <ben_mkiv> amandac i can realy recommend backintime for workstation backups
L474[10:19:59] <ben_mkiv> uses rsync with hardlinks
L475[10:20:14] <AmandaC> ben_mkiv: I use restic atm
L476[10:21:14] <ben_mkiv> but backintime got a nice gui :P
L477[10:21:32] <Corded> * <Lizzy> just uses rsync to her home storage server for her pc
L478[10:24:44] <AmandaC> restic to my raspberry pi NAS, which will eventually sync to my friend's NAS with proper RAID and such that I can't be bothered to set up
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L483[10:31:24] <Lizzy> i wonder if todays technical issues will stop. just been notified that the voicemails for the phones on one of my work sites have completely stopped working, when checking the controller a module is developing faults
L484[10:32:11] <Kodos> Thank fuck I have my phone again
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L490[11:25:00] <MGR> https://www.anandtech.com/show/11930/intel-optane-ssd-dc-p4800x-750gb-handson-review
L491[11:31:24] <Michiyo> MSRP $1,520... ouch
L492[11:31:53] <MGR> 1520 for 375 GB
L493[11:31:59] <MGR> The 750GB obviously costs more
L494[11:32:07] <MGR> So cheap, I went out and bought 20
L495[11:32:17] <MGR> *blatant lies*
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L497[11:32:59] <Inari> .
L498[11:33:07] <MGR> %hello
L499[11:33:07] <MichiBot> Hello! Welcome to #oc! The one and only opencomputers channel! Please ask your questions directly (dont ask to ask) and provide error/code examples! (Use pastebin.com if theyre more than one line!) Dont mind the random conversation you might have walked into.
L500[11:34:31] * gamax92 throws Inari in a lake
L501[11:34:34] <AmandaC> D:
L502[11:34:50] * AmandaC digs her claws into Inari's shirt as she gets an unexpected ride
L503[11:35:00] <gamax92> oh, oops
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L506[11:45:41] <Skye> AmandaC's gonna tear Inari's shirt at this rate
L507[11:46:33] <AmandaC> Nah, I climbed up onto her shoulders while she treads water
L508[11:47:17] <AmandaC> The weight of a soaking wet maine coon is surely not causing any problems for her swiming, nope
L509[11:48:36] <Inari> I feel, therefore I vibrate
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L514[11:49:13] <MajGenRelativity> The Internet is splitting in half at that statement!
L515[11:49:22] <AmandaC> Those 4 people must be terribly confused.
L516[11:49:29] <MGR> Indeed
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L520[11:50:06] <MGR> Huh, not all of the split messages were carried over
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L522[12:03:01] <Inari> Ugh
L523[12:03:09] <Inari> I hate when for some reason I leave something out when typing :P
L524[12:07:40] <AmandaC> Inari: do you mean?
L525[12:08:27] <MGR> Of course she meant
L526[12:08:38] <Inari> :P
L527[12:08:58] <Inari> Well like, not that it doesn't make sense. But like leaving off an "s" on something, or a "to" or such, even though I think of it as I type it out
L528[12:09:51] <MGR> Or when you repeatedly misspell "connections" as "conncetions", and then wonder why your code keeps breaking....
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L550[14:11:33] <Forecaster> TIL
L551[14:11:33] <Forecaster> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFiPjH7dOpE
L552[14:11:38] <MichiBot> Cotard's Syndrome: When People Believe They're Dead | length: 4m 30s | Likes: 64 Dislikes: 1 Views: 445 | by SciShow Psych | Published On 9/11/2017
L553[14:11:45] <Forecaster> this is a thing
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L563[15:09:26] <Inari> Free game https://www.gog.com/game/syberia
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L566[15:22:56] <MGR> ~w modem
L567[15:22:56] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:modem
L568[15:28:07] <peaceoops> How is the post data supposed to be formatted in an http request, and how do I print the response?
L569[15:29:38] <Forecaster> @peaceoops here's an example of the request method https://git.theender.net/Forecaster/OC-programs/blob/master/weather_updater.lua#L26
L570[15:42:34] <peaceoops> Thanks @Forecaster . Any idea how to tell it to ignore invalid HTTPS / SSL certificates? ?
L571[15:43:20] <Forecaster> nope
L572[15:45:14] <Izaya> Guessing "use plain http" isn't an option?
L573[15:45:51] <Izaya> if it's yours and you have a domain LetsEncrypt would probably work for a valid cert
L574[15:49:08] <peaceoops> Lzaya... I'd never heard of LetsEncrypt before... it's... it's beautiful.
L575[15:49:11] <Lizzy> are ym ssl certs expired? or is the thing about invalid certs for the weather stuff
L576[15:50:10] <Lizzy> hmm, nope. mine are fine
L577[15:50:13] <Forecaster> I assume their own site, whatever they're doing
L578[15:50:21] <Forecaster> I'm pretty sure my certs are fine
L579[15:50:55] <peaceoops> I'm creating a data-logger for my energy system in Minecraft, and want to make it secure for absolutely no reason whatsoever.
L580[15:51:58] <Forecaster> encryption is really only useful when sending sensitive data, like login data and such
L581[15:52:09] <Izaya> that said, if it's easy to do, why not use it?
L582[15:52:17] <Pwootage> ^
L583[15:52:32] <Forecaster> I don't think anyone would gain anything from intercepting minecraft data of any kind :P
L584[15:52:40] <Forecaster> oh, it's not a reason not to do it really
L585[15:53:12] <Izaya> I mean, sure, nobody's gonna care about my syslog messages from PsychOS, but I'd still prefer to use encryption than not
L586[15:53:19] <peaceoops> Well, I'm using an existing system logging database that I created, which requires login data be sent with the request....
L587[15:53:25] <AshIndigo> Could they mitm the data if it wasnt encrypted?
L588[15:54:07] <Pwootage> Hm, a logging system for logging energy in minecraft sounds fun to mess with, heh
L589[15:54:16] <Izaya> I mean, in theory, sure, but not practically
L590[15:54:53] <Izaya> why would you bother to MitM energy logging data though?
L591[15:55:12] <Forecaster> what does that mean
L592[15:55:13] <peaceoops> My power system is of great concern to mother Russia....
L593[15:55:31] <Pwootage> MitM - Man in the Middle
L594[15:55:35] <Forecaster> ah
L595[15:55:41] <AshIndigo> If you dont like the person and or a prick
L596[15:55:56] <AshIndigo> *are a
L597[15:56:30] <Izaya> Alternatively, if you wanted to do it for the sake of breaking someone else's bad security
L598[15:57:24] * AshIndigo puts on a white hat
L599[15:57:26] <Izaya> Dunno who would have bad security and be fine with that though :^)
L600[15:57:57] zsh sets mode: +v on ping
L601[15:58:28] <peaceoops> Troglodytes.
L602[15:58:43] <peaceoops> Give me HTTPS or give me death.
L603[15:59:05] <Forecaster> https://towerofawesome.org
L604[15:59:08] <Forecaster> there you go!
L605[15:59:20] <Michiyo> %oclogs
L606[15:59:20] <MichiBot> https://oclogs.pc-logix.com/
L607[15:59:21] * AshIndigo offers both in a 2 for one deal
L608[15:59:21] * Izaya wonders if he could manage a DH kex with a data card and an internet card
L609[15:59:25] <Michiyo> https :P
L610[15:59:51] <Forecaster> huh
L611[15:59:55] <Pwootage> Data card has crypto apis doesn't it?
L612[16:00:00] <Izaya> yeah
L613[16:00:08] <Izaya> I'd need to make the actual stuff up-to-spec though
L614[16:00:12] <Forecaster> nice, the link with https:// in front of it switches to http
L615[16:00:15] <Forecaster> :|
L616[16:00:46] <Izaya> you get like, RSA and AES
L617[16:00:59] <Izaya> should be able to do SSL/TLS with that, maybe
L618[16:01:24] <Pwootage> I mean, you could probably do the whole thing in software too, but that's waaaaay more work
L619[16:01:30] <Izaya> yup
L620[16:02:36] <Izaya> Honestly I think even just implementing the protocol is beyond me, better to leave it to someone more capable than me
L621[16:05:14] <MGR> https://github.com/GlobalEmpire/GERT/releases/tag/v1.0.0 GERT v1.0 is now finally released!
L622[16:05:29] <Gavle> Hooray.
L623[16:05:37] <Forecaster> why is the icon a run-over beaver?
L624[16:05:46] <MGR> It's a platypus
L625[16:05:56] <Forecaster> fine, a run-over platypus
L626[16:06:22] <Izaya> ???
L627[16:06:29] <MGR> It's not a run-over platypus, it's a top down view. It's a picture of the platypus, because that is the GE national animal
L628[16:06:56] <Forecaster> it kind of looks run-over though
L629[16:07:30] <MGR> Take it up with my logoist
L630[16:07:41] <MGR> It's still a million times better than anything I could have drawn
L631[16:07:44] * Izaya is so confused
L632[16:07:59] <Forecaster> Izaya: the logo associated with the github link
L633[16:08:02] <MGR> Turn off your mental blocking
L634[16:08:06] <Forecaster> displayed by discord
L635[16:08:11] <Izaya> github link?
L636[16:08:16] <Forecaster> I assume it's the avatar of the linked account
L637[16:08:26] <MGR> @Forecaster He's pretending to / actually blocking me
L638[16:08:31] <Forecaster> I don't care
L639[16:08:32] <MGR> Hard to tell which it is
L640[16:08:39] <MGR> Mhm
L641[16:08:53] <AshIndigo> Izaya: (+Corded) <MGR> https://github.com/GlobalEmpire/GERT/releases/tag/v1.0.0 GERT v1.0 is now finally released!
L642[16:09:00] <MGR> Aw, you spoiled it
L643[16:09:08] <Izaya> oh, huh.
L644[16:09:11] <Izaya> Wonder how broken it is...
L645[16:09:35] <MGR> It's totally broken. Nothing works. It sets your OC on fire and deletes your server map.
L646[16:09:52] * AshIndigo could find use in that
L647[16:12:10] <AmandaC> Izaya: I hear using it causes a serious staph infection of the genitals
L648[16:12:20] <Izaya> That sounds quite dangerous.
L649[16:12:33] <MGR> Yeah, for sure
L650[16:12:37] <MGR> /sarcasm
L651[16:12:56] <AmandaC> Nah, just requires amputation / invasive surgery
L652[16:29:46] <peaceoops> Welp, LetsEncrypt doesn't like that I'm using dynamic DNS. I'll just open up HTTP for internal connections. Ew.
L653[16:30:04] <peaceoops> The good news is, I'm logging energy production data.
L654[16:32:23] <Pwootage> You can make some fun graphs with that sort of info I bet
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L660[16:35:31] <peaceoops> Exactly. I thought about doing it within MC, but this way I can do more in-depth analysis or something.
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L667[16:38:38] <Izaya> I think I'm doing this wrong, using two rows asdf/zxcv for movement and camera control and qwer for actual stuff
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L669[16:44:04] <MGR> %ohno
L670[16:44:04] <MichiBot> ohno
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L672[16:50:24] <Michiyo> %ohyeah
L673[16:50:24] <MichiBot> OH YEAH! https://michi.pc-logix.com/2017-11-09_09-44-41.png
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L675[17:02:11] <CompanionCube> Izaya: lol
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L678[18:03:19] <mrkirby153> Not entirely sure why, but BRGC makes my in game computer nearly unusable
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L687[19:56:58] <S3> Um
L688[19:57:03] <S3> http://odditymall.com/includes/content/twister-bed-sheets-0.jpg
L689[20:09:01] <S3> Vindex: so OPT
L690[20:09:03] <S3> OTP*
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L692[20:33:49] <Arcanitor> my new car has a millennial anti-theft device installed
L693[20:42:49] <Izaya> dare I ask?
L694[20:52:51] <Arcanitor> a manual transmission
L695[20:53:20] <Izaya> oh
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L700[23:38:05] <Vindex> Lol
L701[23:39:05] <Vindex> You can still apply for driving licence with manual transmission in this country
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