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L16[03:22:51] <Kodos> .
L17[03:23:27] <Kodos> payonel, wat
L18[03:25:37] <Kodos> WAit, nvm, I know what happened
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L23[04:58:10] <Lizzy> @Sangar you about?
L24[05:43:30] <Saphire> How to properly be a cryptonerd: archlinux package is signed with akey created in 1998
L25[05:43:38] <Saphire> ...19 years. Huh.
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L28[06:42:58] <WatchtowerOrator> Time for a new episode from Forecaster! You're welcome!
L29[06:42:58] <WatchtowerOrator> https://youtu.be/PAGdsUIZ4CQ - RailcraftLP [Episode 51] - Reactor Guests
L30[06:42:58] <WatchtowerOrator> Tags on this video: opencomputers,OpenOS,industrialcraft2,ic2,reactor,pipes,casting,crafting
L31[06:42:58] <MichiBot> RailcraftLP- [Episode 51] - Reactor Guests | length: 32m 4s | Likes: 0 Dislikes: 0 Views: 0 | by Forecaster | Published On 21/10/2017
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L40[08:20:02] <Temia> Mooooo. .o.
L41[08:26:24] <Amatwiedle> Is there a specific OC help channel?
L42[08:26:48] <Mimiru> Yes, you're in it.
L43[08:26:53] <Amatwiedle> Awesome :D
L44[08:27:11] <Amatwiedle> Having an issue where OC blacklists a load of components at startup, couldnt find a fix anywhere else :(
L45[08:27:30] <Mimiru> that's likely completely normal.. got a list of them?
L46[08:28:08] <Amatwiedle> I was wondering if it's related to OC preventing the crafting of any parts like microchips etc in game
L47[08:28:20] <ben_mkiv> nope
L48[08:28:32] <Amatwiedle> Well I've got that issue as well lol
L49[08:28:40] <ben_mkiv> modpacks tend to break receipes for other mods
L50[08:28:52] <ben_mkiv> so i guess its some modpack you play
L51[08:30:08] <Temia> Granted, it'd be best to ask that kind of information before going on conjecture
L52[08:31:16] <AmandaC> Amatwiedle: do you have JEI / NEI installed in the pack?
L53[08:31:21] <Amatwiedle> JEI
L54[08:31:43] <AmandaC> and the recipe it shows for the chips doesn't work?
L55[08:31:56] <Amatwiedle> Yup
L56[08:32:03] <ben_mkiv> also its worth to give vanilla crafting table a try
L57[08:32:08] <ben_mkiv> sometimes... this works
L58[08:32:27] <Amatwiedle> I just loaded up an SP game to see if it works there, it does
L59[08:32:34] <Amatwiedle> exact same mod loadout
L60[08:32:48] <ben_mkiv> yea the server admin has messed up the crafttweaker scripts
L61[08:32:53] * AmandaC baps ben_mkiv
L62[08:33:07] <ben_mkiv> i kinda have the feeling that some do this to sell their "donation" packages
L63[08:33:08] <AmandaC> Amatwiedle: you sure the client and the server are running the same modpack version?
L64[08:33:11] <Amatwiedle> It's run by me, how would I remedy that?
L65[08:33:14] <ben_mkiv> oh, k
L66[08:33:51] <ben_mkiv> minetweaker it is, not crafttweaker
L67[08:34:21] <AmandaC> ben_mkiv: you're not helping, you're spouting theories randomly.
L68[08:35:00] <ben_mkiv> i'm closer to the problem than anyone of you...
L69[08:35:53] <AmandaC> ben_mkiv: what's more likely, a server/client version mismatch, or someone being malicious and selling donation stuff on a server.
L70[08:36:07] <AmandaC> Pretty sure the former is much more likely
L71[08:36:09] <ben_mkiv> -.- that topic is off as its his/her server
L72[08:36:16] <Amatwiedle> Its a private server, so def not the last one :P
L73[08:36:19] <ben_mkiv> version mismatch is catched on login
L74[08:36:39] <AmandaC> config mismatches, however, aren't
L75[08:36:50] <Temia> Sigh
L76[08:36:50] <ben_mkiv> Amatwiedle, what happens if you are on the server and do /mt reload
L77[08:36:54] <ben_mkiv> any errors in serverlogs?
L78[08:36:58] <AmandaC> if a mod has a different config on the server or client, or the recipies are otherwise out of sync, it'll show the wrong recipe on the client.
L79[08:37:07] <ben_mkiv> if its minetweaker, it is a config problem...
L80[08:37:19] <Temia> Amatwiedle, could you post a log for us please?
L81[08:37:36] <Amatwiedle> Mt reload isnt a recognized command, and sure
L82[08:37:57] <ben_mkiv> you used ingame chat and are operator?
L83[08:38:00] <Amatwiedle> unless I need minetweaker installed
L84[08:38:09] <ben_mkiv> to fail, it has to be in the pack xD
L85[08:38:10] <ben_mkiv> isnt it?
L86[08:38:14] <AmandaC> No, you don't require minetweaker
L87[08:38:25] <Temia> Hush, Ben, adults are talking.
L88[08:38:26] <AmandaC> OC can have it's recipies changed by it's own config
L89[08:39:32] <Amatwiedle> https://pastebin.com/ywkbt4ky
L90[08:39:41] <Amatwiedle> That's the startup log
L91[08:40:47] <Amatwiedle> Line 475 is where OC starts to have issues
L92[08:41:22] <AmandaC> Amatwiedle: that's not an error. It's OC telling itself that some stuff doesn't make sense. Like a leash upgrade in a normal coputer
L93[08:41:24] <AmandaC> computer*
L94[08:41:28] <Mimiru> 475 to 542 isn't a "problem" it's fine.
L95[08:42:07] <Mimiru> it can't find an item from GC so a single recipe registration fails.
L96[08:42:23] <Amatwiedle> Figured
L97[08:42:29] <AmandaC> Amatwiedle: it's likely because the `config/` folder between your server and client aren't exactly matched, if it's a custom pack
L98[08:42:43] <Amatwiedle> Probably the case, threw it together
L99[08:43:14] <Amatwiedle> Should I just copy over the server's OC config to my client then?
L100[08:43:14] <AmandaC> It's usually safe to just copy the folder from one to the other, but make a backup of the one you're overwriting, just in case
L101[08:43:43] <AmandaC> ( "backup" in this casse could just be renaming it to `config-backup/`
L102[08:47:58] <Amatwiedle> No dice
L103[08:48:18] <Amatwiedle> I do get an error whenever I login saying that some items may be uncraftable
L104[08:48:27] <Amatwiedle> error loading one or more recipes
L105[08:48:38] <AmandaC> on the client or the server?
L106[08:49:00] <Amatwiedle> Its an ingame message
L107[08:49:05] <Temia> Oh? What does it say?
L108[08:49:41] <Amatwiedle> "There were errors loading one or more recipes. Some items may be uncraftable. Please check your log file for more information."
L109[08:49:48] <Amatwiedle> I dont see anything in the log file however
L110[08:50:59] <Mimiru> Maybe replace your default recipes with http://michi.pc-logix.com/default.recipes on both client/server ?
L111[08:51:05] <Mimiru> that's fresh out of a 1.10 install
L112[08:51:23] <Amatwiedle> 1.1? Isnt it 1.7?
L113[08:51:24] <Mimiru> what version of OC are you on?
L114[08:51:50] <Amatwiedle> 1.7.0.124
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L116[08:52:10] <Mimiru> so yeah.. latest 1.10 build.
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L118[08:52:25] <Mimiru> "1.10 install" meaning, MC 1.10.
L119[08:53:29] <Amatwiedle> oh, mc 1.10 lol
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L122[08:59:51] <Mimiru> welcome back
L123[08:59:55] <Amatwiedle> Lagged out I suppose, but I replaced both with no luck
L124[09:00:53] <Mimiru> :/ I can craft on my 1.10 server with no issue
L125[09:00:54] <AmandaC> Just to make sure: You're restarting the server AND client after this, right?
L126[09:00:56] <Mimiru> I have no idea..
L127[09:00:56] <Amatwiedle> Well, I just realised I had been trying to craft things with iron nuggets from another mod
L128[09:01:04] <Amatwiedle> spawned in some OC nuggets, worked fine
L129[09:01:09] <Mimiru> Ahh, yeah, that might cause issues...
L130[09:01:12] <Amatwiedle> assuming it doesnt recognize those items
L131[09:01:24] <Mimiru> which other mod?
L132[09:01:27] <Amatwiedle> Agricraft
L133[09:01:42] <Mimiru> OC should recognize oredict'd stuff...
L134[09:01:46] <Amatwiedle> its the default for some reason, even though im assuming the only way you get those is from a plant
L135[09:04:50] <Mimiru> Hmmm argicraft fixed their nuggets to be oredicted...
L136[09:04:55] <Amatwiedle> What version?
L137[09:04:59] <Mimiru> back in december '16..
L138[09:05:03] <Amatwiedle> yeah...
L139[09:05:11] <Amatwiedle> started like last week, so that isnt the case lol
L140[09:06:01] <Mimiru> are you using spongeforge on the server?
L141[09:06:08] <Amatwiedle> Probably not?
L142[09:06:14] <Mimiru> You'd know.. so no :p
L143[09:07:03] <Mimiru> if you have T-Con installed you can melt them down in a smeltery and get normal nuggets out...
L144[09:07:15] <Amatwiedle> Yeah, thats what I was doing lol
L145[09:07:16] <Mimiru> but yes.. OC should use the oredict
L146[09:08:27] <Mimiru> Well.. "nuggetIron"
L147[09:08:32] <Mimiru> so, yeah should be fine..?
L148[09:08:49] <Amatwiedle> Its not recognizing the nugget though :/
L149[09:09:38] <Amatwiedle> well, as much of a pain in the ass as it is, I can just get them from t-con
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L151[09:11:36] <Mimiru> Amatwiedle, you have JEI right? if you type $ironNugget into it's search what comes up?
L152[09:12:05] <Amatwiedle> nothing
L153[09:12:11] <Mimiru> err
L154[09:12:15] <Mimiru> $nuggetIron
L155[09:12:18] <Mimiru> my bad
L156[09:12:46] <Amatwiedle> Both of em show up
L157[09:12:51] <Mimiru> huh...
L158[09:13:04] <Amatwiedle> Although I tried $stone and things that shouldnt be stone showed up
L159[09:13:28] <Amatwiedle> dunno if JEI was just returning both oredictionary and string comparisons though
L160[09:15:10] <Mimiru> I don't know scala well enough to understand the recipe parser...
L161[09:15:19] <Mimiru> I'll poke someone who does :P
L162[09:23:40] <Izaya> anyone run into "Internal Exception: io.netty.channel.unix.Errors$NativeIoException: syscall:read(..) failed: Connection reset by peer" when connecting to a modded server?
L163[09:24:14] <Mimiru> I've never seen that... no
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L165[09:24:30] <Izaya> huh
L166[09:24:36] <Izaya> suddenly my server is constantly doing that
L167[09:24:42] <Izaya> on the server side it just says timed out
L168[09:25:18] <Izaya> hey just keep trying to connect maybe
L169[09:25:23] <Izaya> it took 3 goes but this time it worked
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L171[09:25:39] <Izaya> uh wrong channel
L172[09:25:47] <Izaya> S3: ^
L173[09:28:14] <ben_mkiv> so did the adults figure out the problem yet? :D
L174[09:29:00] <Mimiru> Yes, yes we did.
L175[09:29:00] <Mimiru> Wrong nugget.
L176[09:29:08] <Mimiru> Either OC is ignoring Argicraft's nuggets, or Argicraft isn't registering their nugget properly.
L177[09:29:38] <ben_mkiv> yea, so the admins probably solved that using minetweaker
L178[09:29:42] <ben_mkiv> not that mt was the problem
L179[09:29:43] <Izaya> wrong nugget sounds like a touhou song title
L180[09:29:44] <Mimiru> "the admins"
L181[09:29:52] <ben_mkiv> because it was also with agricraft nuggets iirc
L182[09:29:52] <Mimiru> They are the admin, and there is no minetweaker.
L183[09:30:05] <ben_mkiv> dont talk to me anymore please
L184[09:30:11] <ben_mkiv> or read what i write
L185[09:30:39] <Mimiru> I'll just stick to /ignore.
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L187[09:39:07] <ben_mkiv> Amatwiedle, some mods also translate stuff
L188[09:39:23] <ben_mkiv> used to put iron ingots in an compacting storage drawer, the output was allways vanilla nuggets
L189[09:39:51] <ben_mkiv> and as said, you can probably fix it using minetweaker
L190[09:40:07] <ben_mkiv> by removing the agricraft receipe, and maybe adding a new one for minecraft nuggets
L191[09:40:20] <ben_mkiv> dont know if it falls back to default if you remove a receipe
L192[10:15:51] <Saphire> Mimiru: hmm? Who (and why) are you ignoring?
L193[10:27:41] <ben_mkiv> <--
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L196[11:19:09] <ben_mkiv> shouldnt computers work without energy if no other mod is installed?
L197[11:21:07] <Turtle> I think so, in either case, you should be able to flip a config setting to change it
L198[11:41:12] <Temia> Indeed, it works but warns that no power mod is installed on start.
L199[11:42:48] <Temia> Also, are you seriously suggesting using Minetweaker to change the recipes for a mod that has its own customizable recipes? I don't even.
L200[11:43:34] <Temia> If it's a problem of Agricraft's iron nuggets not being in the ore dictionary, then it is a simple matter of using Minetweaker to put them in the ore dictionary instead.
L201[11:44:11] <ben_mkiv> doesnt warn on 1.12.2 and needs power
L202[11:44:19] <ben_mkiv> no mods beside of OC 1.7 release
L203[11:44:30] <Temia> Doesn't forge have its own power system built in?
L204[11:44:46] <Temia> It's probably defaulting to that.
L205[11:45:01] <ben_mkiv> yea, thought of something like that, too
L206[11:45:35] <ben_mkiv> but it already had in 1.10 where it worked iirc
L207[11:45:46] <Temia> File a bug report then.
L208[11:46:08] <ben_mkiv> gonna test some more versions before to get sure what latest working is
L209[11:48:46] <gamax92> the power of bisect
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L212[12:15:54] <gamax92> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DMbz4s9UEAACa5x.jpg
L213[12:16:58] <AmandaC> gamax92: I'm curious what talk thats from.
L214[12:17:34] <gamax92> dunno, found it in marcan's twitter
L215[12:18:50] <Inari> https://twitter.com/badccvoid/status/844313464910819329
L216[12:18:51] <MichiBot> Tue Mar 21 17:23:11 CDT 2017 @badccvoid: @_Gaeel_ @YellowTide Here's Lua.. I wonder how many languages we can get. https://t.co/AMHkrgEGqG
L217[12:23:05] <Inari> https://twitter.com/cbquist/status/821830036458246144 :o
L218[12:23:06] <MichiBot> Wed Jan 18 15:22:04 CST 2017 @cbquist: Probably the best pic of blood, plasma and water droplets beading on a superomniphobic surface you'll see today. (K… https://t.co/xmPmIM8OcE
L219[12:34:29] * Kodos slaps ben_mkiv
L220[12:34:51] <ben_mkiv> is that a fetish?
L221[12:34:58] <Kodos> No, it's me telling you to not be rude to people
L222[12:35:07] <ben_mkiv> about mimi?
L223[12:35:19] <ben_mkiv> sent him/her an excuse already
L224[12:35:23] <ben_mkiv> no idea if it arrived or not...
L225[12:35:30] <Kodos> Likely not, I think they ignored you
L226[12:35:46] <ben_mkiv> ignoring people because of one disargument also isnt very kind
L227[12:36:52] <Kodos> First of all, disargument isn't even a word. Secondly, at least she had the sense to ignore you instead of perpetuating the conversation further. You were unnecessarily rude, and that is why I slapped you =P
L228[12:37:36] <ben_mkiv> you can also ignore people, by not ignoring them at tech level
L229[12:37:39] <ben_mkiv> but that requires brain
L230[12:37:48] <ben_mkiv> 2nd, english aint my native language
L231[12:38:05] <Kodos> I could tell
L232[12:38:15] <ben_mkiv> ik that it was to rude
L233[12:38:19] <ben_mkiv> i sent an excuse as pm
L234[12:39:47] <AmandaC> %choose watch or play
L235[12:39:48] <MichiBot> AmandaC: play
L236[12:39:56] <AmandaC> %choose ttd or rct
L237[12:39:56] <MichiBot> AmandaC: rct
L238[12:40:06] <ben_mkiv> %choose sry mimiru or sorry mimiru
L239[12:40:06] <MichiBot> ben_mkiv: sorry mimiru
L240[12:40:10] <ben_mkiv> kodos are you happy now? :P
L241[12:40:20] <AshIndigo> 2x ping!
L242[12:40:26] <Kodos> It's not a question whether or not I'm happy
L243[12:40:36] <Kodos> You were rude, and you shouldn't have been. As long as you have learned the lesson, all is well
L244[12:43:47] <ben_mkiv> so going on full ignore because of that argument was fine to you?
L245[12:44:07] * Kodos sighs
L246[12:44:08] <AmandaC> You don't have a right to be heard.
L247[12:44:15] <Kodos> Okay, obviously you aren't getting it, so
L248[12:49:52] <Inari> I also think people are using the ignore feature too easily. But thats their decision to make :P Though ti does inconvenience the chatroom as a whole usually
L249[13:10:41] <ben_mkiv> kodos i got pretty good that you are on mimirus side, no matter what happened
L250[13:11:11] <Kodos> I'm not on anyone's side, you dolt. The channel rules state to be courteous to each other. Mimiru walked away and ignored you before she got too heated. You continued to be a shitter
L251[13:11:17] <ben_mkiv> but as inari said, it doesnt help the channel at all...
L252[13:11:19] <Kodos> Since you are not understanding that, maybe take a day to figure it out
L253[13:11:19] <AmandaC> "no matter what happen" You were being a twat, so she ignored you
L254[13:11:32] <Kodos> %tban ben_mkiv 24h Come back tomorrow. And be nicer when you do.
L255[13:11:36] *** ben_mkiv was kicked by zsh ((MichiBot) Reason: Come back tomorrow. And be nicer when you do. | For: 24h | Expires: 10/22/2017 01:11:33 PM))
L256[13:11:52] <gamax92> Geez
L257[13:12:09] <Kodos> Like holy shit I am not awake enough to deal with that shit. I don't even have my glasses on yet
L258[13:12:45] <Vexatos> That's your fault then and not his
L259[13:12:46] <Vexatos> >_>
L260[13:13:04] <Kodos> No, the fact that I am not quite fully awake yet has no bearing on him being the way he was
L261[13:13:24] <Kodos> And despite my explaining, he still didn't 'get' it
L262[13:14:01] <gamax92> Inari, Vexatos: It aint about the usage of an ignore feature or Kodos being tired, it's about ben being an ass before and continuing to be an ass
L263[13:14:16] <gamax92> Hopefully he can come back in a day and stop being an ass
L264[13:14:45] <Inari> Being on someones ignore won't solve "being an ass"
L265[13:15:35] <gamax92> correct, it doesn't, and it was never implied that it would
L266[13:16:20] <Ben> the twat just proofed your double standards
L267[13:16:24] <Ben> as you straight ignored that
L268[13:16:27] <Ben> it did hurt my feelings
L269[13:16:29] <Ben> xD
L270[13:16:40] <Corded> * <Lizzy> sighs
L271[13:16:58] <Kodos> Oh, right, Discord
L272[13:17:00] <Lizzy> @Ben come back in 24 hours
L273[13:17:47] <Lizzy> %remindme 24 unban ben
L274[13:18:06] <Lizzy> fuck it
L275[13:18:08] <brayden> ooooo drama
L276[13:18:21] <Kodos> Shh =P
L277[13:18:22] <Lizzy> %remindme 24h unban ben from discord
L278[13:18:22] <MichiBot> I'll remind you about "unban ben from discord" at 10/22/2017 01:18:22 PM
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L280[13:20:29] <Apano_12> Hey
L281[13:21:01] <Apano_12> Hello
L282[13:21:06] <Lizzy> haii
L283[13:21:21] <Apano_12> How is it going?
L284[13:21:40] <Kodos> %hello
L285[13:21:40] <MichiBot> Hello! Welcome to #oc! The one and only opencomputers channel! Please ask your questions directly (dont ask to ask) and provide error/code examples! (Use pastebin.com if theyre more than one line!) Dont mind the random conversation you might have walked into.
L286[13:22:20] <Apano_12> Hello Kodos
L287[13:22:54] <Kodos> I am definitely not a bot
L288[13:23:06] <Apano_12> Wow im not too
L289[13:23:12] <Apano_12> :)
L290[13:23:21] <Lizzy> are you sure? what about the software upgrade i ran on your systems the other day? :P
L291[13:23:34] <Apano_12> :P
L292[13:23:35] <Kodos> No upgrades available.
L293[13:23:39] <AmandaC> Wait, there are HUMANS in this channel!?
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L295[13:23:48] <CompanionCube> %oclogs
L296[13:23:48] <MichiBot> https://oclogs.pc-logix.com/
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L298[13:23:52] <Lizzy> exactly, they were all done the other day :P
L299[13:23:56] <CompanionCube> AmandaC: beep.
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L301[13:24:32] <Cruor> Kodos: beep boop
L302[13:24:42] <Kodos> You forgot the motherfucker
L303[13:25:06] <Cruor> that would be rude:o
L304[13:25:35] <Kodos> Not if you're Sam Jackson https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/500x/56120842/beep-boop-motherfucker.jpg
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L307[13:28:19] <Apano_12> Hello everybody
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L309[13:29:20] <AmandaC> Hel- bye
L310[13:30:07] <Kodos> The joys of them using ingame IRC
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L314[13:37:24] <Apano_12> Hello @Lizzy
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L317[13:46:35] <Vexatos> now with the threads API, when will someone make a passive ircd :⁾
L318[13:46:47] <Vexatos> that just keeps a connection active >_>
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L320[13:47:33] <gamax92> Vexatos: but that's the point of PING PONG
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L322[13:48:38] <Vexatos> like, you can close wocchat but it will keep the connection running until you actually shut down the computer or run whatever command to close it properly, and running wocchat again will just resume
L323[13:48:56] <Vexatos> maybe even store a limited amount of passively acquired scrollback in some file
L324[13:49:15] <gamax92> wocchat's buffer auto trims when it scrolls off the screen
L325[13:49:30] <Vexatos> so, like, just store that much in a file while it's running in the background
L326[13:49:44] <Vexatos> and display it when you resume wocchat
L327[13:49:45] <Inari> gamax92: Why just trimming? Epilating is better
L328[13:49:47] <gamax92> or just an array .-.
L329[13:49:50] <Vexatos> or that
L330[13:49:52] <gamax92> Inari: what
L331[13:49:56] <Vexatos> if RAM is good enough, sure
L332[13:50:11] <gamax92> Vexatos: it's like, at most 50 strings of up to 512 characters
L333[13:51:02] <Inari> That sounds like a lot for a bg program
L334[13:51:14] <gamax92> %lua 50*(512+8)
L335[13:51:15] <MichiBot> 26000
L336[13:51:23] <Vexatos> sure
L337[13:51:38] <Vexatos> If you can justify 26kB :P
L338[13:51:59] <gamax92> you need a T2 or better system to run wocchat anyway so :P
L339[13:52:03] <Vexatos> well
L340[13:52:06] <Vexatos> Would be a pretty cool feature then :P
L341[13:52:21] <gamax92> I'll get to work on it then :P
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L344[13:52:53] <Vexatos> threads API is nice :I
L345[13:53:02] <gamax92> plus it would just be reusing the same buffer that would already take up up to 26kB :D
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L347[13:53:22] <Vexatos> sure :P
L348[13:53:23] <AmandaC> do theads outlive their process?
L349[13:53:31] <Vexatos> if you detach them
L350[13:53:35] <AmandaC> ah
L351[13:53:43] <gamax92> orphaned threads?
L352[13:54:50] <Vexatos> Are possible as far as I know
L353[13:54:58] <Vexatos> You can also attach() a thread to another thread
L354[13:55:24] <Vexatos> Default is the calling process, but you can attach() it to the parent process for instance
L355[13:55:46] <gamax92> I guess parent would be shell in this case
L356[13:55:51] <Vexatos> As long as you keep the thread handle safe somewhere
L357[13:56:15] <Vexatos> I have no idea whether programs are actually run on a separate thread
L358[13:56:17] <Vexatos> need to ask payonel for that
L359[13:57:42] <gamax92> updating to ubuntu artful, wish me luck
L360[13:57:59] <Vexatos> the name starts with A D:
L361[13:58:28] <gamax92> yeah, slightly dissapointing
L362[14:00:26] <Vexatos> I assume running a program uses shell.execute
L363[14:00:31] <Vexatos> which doesn't create a new thread
L364[14:00:34] <Vexatos> just a new coroutine
L365[14:00:40] <Vexatos> Might be something payonel should do
L366[14:00:51] <Vexatos> so you can attach your threads to the shell separately from the program
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L368[14:04:02] <Vexatos> But I don't actually know
L369[14:04:06] <Vexatos> it might already be working
L370[14:06:20] <AmandaC> pretty sure the shell doesn't get it's own process
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L372[14:08:34] <Apano_12> Hello
L373[14:08:58] <Inari> Hrm
L374[14:09:28] <Inari> Is there a windows tool that I point at a file and it tests the sectors used by tha tfile or so? :P
L375[14:09:45] <Apano_12> I dont know :(
L376[14:11:13] <Apano_12> Hey are you still there?
L377[14:11:35] <CompanionCube> Inari: doubt it
L378[14:11:45] <CompanionCube> given that'd need low-level filesystem access
L379[14:11:54] <gamax92> Inari: tests?
L380[14:11:57] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzOKtYSe5-E&feature=youtu.be thats pretty cool
L381[14:11:57] <MichiBot> HANDJET® EBS 250 portable printer Part 1 | length: 7m 25s | Likes: 517 Dislikes: 34 Views: 308,487 | by primarymarking | Published On 24/4/2008
L382[14:12:05] <gamax92> like a bad sector test?
L383[14:12:09] <Inari> gamax92: Yeah
L384[14:13:09] <CompanionCube> there's also not one for linux, the closest is badblocks
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L386[14:14:48] <Temia> That lipsyncing
L387[14:14:54] <Inari> Temia: ikr xD
L388[14:15:19] <gamax92> I'm sure you could probably do something like, ask debugfs for where the file resides, do some calculations and get a partition offset from that
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L390[14:15:31] <Temia> Also that infomercial-quality footage
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L392[14:16:49] <Inari> Doesn't seem to have taken off :P
L393[14:16:52] <Inari> Or at least I never saw one
L394[14:17:26] <Temia> Well, it seems restricted to industrial deployment
L395[14:18:03] <Temia> looks like someone got access to wingdings
L396[14:18:26] <gamax92> it's also super expensive
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L398[14:21:14] <gamax92> oh that is straight up wingdings
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L400[14:22:30] <Temia> TECHNOLOGICALLY ADVANCED PROCESSOR, *WITH MEMORY* AND A *RADIO COMMUNICATION INTERFACE*
L401[14:22:37] <AmandaC> O.o `[Server Watchdog/FATAL]: A single server tick took 60.80 seconds (should be max 0.05)`
L402[14:22:50] <AmandaC> WTF is my pack doing?
L403[14:23:01] <Temia> ALL THIS IN THE YEAR 2008
L404[14:23:23] <gamax92> Temia: but then it only has a two digit display
L405[14:25:32] <vifino> om nom nom imma eat all those bytes
L406[14:25:55] <vifino> ... and tuna pizza. mostly tuna pizza.
L407[14:26:52] <gamax92> oh hey vifino
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L410[14:29:53] <vifino> hai gamax92
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L412[14:30:16] <vifino> gamax92: I've got a dslr now! \o/
L413[14:30:36] <gamax92> take all the pictures
L414[14:30:43] <vifino> While my photography skills are not on point, https://i.imgur.com/pDahej6.jpg is a decent first picture.
L415[14:31:00] <vifino> In my opinion, at least.
L416[14:34:09] <smoke_fumus> vifino: frame focus is odd. i mean - there is too much junk in the blur and you're focusing on the simple shape.
L417[14:34:16] <vifino> shhh
L418[14:34:30] <vifino> it's a start!
L419[14:34:44] <smoke_fumus> turn yourself around 45 degrees counter clockwise and reduce dof effect to capture stem as well
L420[14:35:22] <vifino> oh, I'll keep that in mind, thank you. :P
L421[14:37:15] <gamax92> ack D:
L422[14:37:24] <gamax92> I cannot update because package files conflict
L423[14:37:56] <gamax92> but I don't know how to uninstall the conflicting package because it wants me to try and fix the interrupted upgrade
L424[14:39:33] <gamax92> installing debian packages on top of ubuntu has come back to bite me
L425[14:40:05] <vifino> smoke_fumus: This camera is the first camera I've owned that wasn't using film. I think that picture is good enough for having had the camera for around 5 minutes at that point. ^^
L426[14:41:30] <gamax92> vifino: I'd show you some photos but everything is broken atm
L427[14:41:35] <vifino> :(
L428[14:41:42] <gamax92> don't worry it'll fix itself soon
L429[14:42:18] <gamax92> I just told dpkg to force overwrite and will tend to the two packages later
L430[14:48:49] <AmandaC> RIP gamax92's machine
L431[14:49:04] <AmandaC> Telling stuff to force overwrite has bitten me in the past
L432[14:49:23] <AmandaC> but I don't remember what distro I did that under, so who knows if it's as dangerous under dpkg
L433[14:49:52] <Vexatos> My OS just provides its own program for handling upgrades whenever massive changes are done
L434[14:50:40] <Vexatos> the update from mint 17 to 18 switched the ubuntu base from 14 to 16 so it installed a thing called mintupgrade which did all the insane stuff like switching base repositories for me ,_,
L435[14:50:42] * CompanionCube hasn't had such problems with portage
L436[14:51:01] <CompanionCube> the only bad thing is that dependency resolving takes *forever*
L437[14:51:45] <AmandaC> I think itmight have been portage. granted, this was 10+ years ago, and ISTR what happen is it overwrote some config I needed to do to mmake it work with the package default
L438[14:52:05] <AmandaC> ( Causing X11 to die in a fire every boot )
L439[14:52:07] <gamax92> I've done this with arch before as well ... for the exact same reason as now ...
L440[14:52:08] <gamax92> <_<;
L441[14:52:38] * CompanionCube has no need to mix-and-match packages within a single distro
L442[14:53:11] <gamax92> well for arch I accidentally installed a custom wine-staging over the installed version and not in local
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L444[14:53:52] <gamax92> and for ubuntu it's just libwebpmux3 vs libwebp7, force overwrote, removed libwebp7, and reinstalled libwebpmux3, all good
L445[14:53:57] <AmandaC> Was oc 1.7 supposed to come with an openos 1.7?
L446[14:54:42] <gamax92> I'm keeping a log of everything that gets removed anyway, have done so every distro upgrade
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L449[15:09:05] <Inari> https://twitter.com/DevilzKin nice style
L450[15:13:24] <gamax92> that is an interesting coloring style
L451[15:53:15] <gamax92> %remindme 45m backup
L452[15:53:15] <MichiBot> I'll remind you about "backup" at 10/21/2017 04:38:15 PM
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L454[15:56:13] <AmandaC> %choose slime or retro
L455[15:56:13] <MichiBot> AmandaC: retro
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L457[16:24:04] <S3> Temia: 2008?
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L459[16:24:25] <Temia> That's when the video was uploaded.
L460[16:24:35] <S3> 2008 was when I finally graduated from high school
L461[16:24:40] <Temia> Same.
L462[16:24:43] <S3> after being held back a couple years
L463[16:24:50] <Temia> Not that part
L464[16:24:51] * Kodos feels old because he graduated in 2003
L465[16:24:54] <S3> lol
L466[16:25:04] <S3> I stayed back in kindergarten too XD
L467[16:25:10] <S3> apparently I was a crazy kid
L468[16:28:54] <S3> ok
L469[16:29:04] <S3> im hungry so I'm going grocery shopping
L470[16:29:15] <Vexatos> I graduated in 2015 :D
L471[16:29:16] <S3> themost dangerous time to go grocery shopping because of wallets
L472[16:29:18] <Vexatos> Feeling old yet?
L473[16:29:23] <S3> . . .
L474[16:29:36] <S3> isn't that like yesterday?
L475[16:29:45] <Vexatos> Next year I'll have my Bachelor's degree :D
L476[16:29:57] <S3> funny
L477[16:30:01] <S3> I get mine next year..
L478[16:30:05] <Vexatos> . _ .
L479[16:30:09] <S3> but I worked in the field for a while
L480[16:30:13] <Vexatos> What have you been doing all th...oh ok
L481[16:30:16] <S3> as a sysadmin
L482[16:30:26] <S3> and I also went to more than one college
L483[16:30:35] <S3> I already have my associates
L484[16:30:40] <S3> got that back in like 2011
L485[16:31:04] <S3> before that I kinda just worked with a local DJ
L486[16:31:10] <S3> and did not much XD
L487[16:31:53] <Vexatos> All my fellow students are either 20 or 25, depending on whether they completed technician training before or not
L488[16:32:25] <Vexatos> I'm by far the youngest person here >_<
L489[16:38:16] <MichiBot> gamax92 REMINDER: backup
L490[16:38:26] <gamax92> oh yeah
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L492[16:57:35] <AmandaC> Holy shit, Overgrowth actually came out? I remember getting a preview of that way back when humble bundle was just beginning.
L493[17:09:09] <gamax92> hello kernel 4.13, and freetype 2.8
L494[17:18:05] <Temia> \o/
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L499[19:24:46] <S3> gamax92: HAH
L500[19:24:53] <S3> Linux oracle 4.4.14 #1 SMP Fri Jun 24 13:30:15 CDT 2016 x86_64 Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3540M CPU @ 3.00GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
L501[19:24:55] <S3> beat you to it
L502[19:25:11] <gamax92> I don't care
L503[19:25:15] <gamax92> Have a nice day
L504[19:25:25] <S3> oh you mean 4.13
L505[19:25:27] <S3> not 4.4.13
L506[19:25:38] <S3> :D
L507[19:25:46] <S3> 4.4 is more stable anyways
L508[19:30:02] <S3> gamax92: did you ever read how 4.0 came to be?
L509[19:31:17] <gamax92> some people did some things and wrote some code and called it 4.0
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L511[19:32:32] <Izaya> https://www.haiku-os.org/blog/kallisti5/2017-10-09_where_is_haiku_r1/ exciting
L512[19:33:34] <gamax92> Oh yeah I forgot about haiku
L513[19:33:58] <gamax92> Should go read up on its development news
L514[19:57:54] <Izaya> vifino: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gYAw1bDIZ0
L515[19:57:54] <MichiBot> The Floppotron: Das Model | length: 2m 22s | Likes: 2,029 Dislikes: 13 Views: 18,809 | by Paweł Zadrożniak | Published On 21/10/2017
L516[20:24:24] <vifino> Izaya: oh shit, kraftwerk
L517[20:31:14] <Izaya> :D
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L520[21:32:55] <Sarren Nardieu> so am i even supposed to be able to put a floppy disk into a tablet?
L521[21:43:41] <Kodos> If it has a floppy drive, sure
L522[21:43:50] <Sarren Nardieu> i think its a mod conflict
L523[21:44:17] <Sarren Nardieu> cause when i shift click my tablet the slot where the floppy should go is crossed out
L524[21:44:48] <Sarren Nardieu> im going to try and debug it now
L525[21:47:08] <Kodos> Did you add or remove any mods after creating the world?
L526[21:48:25] <Sarren Nardieu> i dont think so
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L528[21:58:51] <Sarren Nardieu> im not getting any errors in the log ?
L529[21:59:50] <Kodos> I'm not sure that you would if it's just an ID shift
L530[22:00:02] <Kodos> Does the tablet have a floppy drive in it?
L531[22:01:18] <Sarren Nardieu> yes
L532[22:01:25] <Sarren Nardieu> oh
L533[22:01:35] <Sarren Nardieu> well i put one in
L534[22:02:01] <Sarren Nardieu> it doesnt show up in the 'installed components' section of the tooltip though
L535[22:03:39] <Sarren Nardieu> http://tinyurl.com/ybzyz9pt
L536[22:07:07] <Sarren Nardieu> i just tried it with an upgrade container, it does not function or appear in the list either
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L542[22:17:27] <Sarren Nardieu> im after trying it with just oc and jei
L543[22:17:37] <Sarren Nardieu> i still cant put in a floppy drive
L544[22:19:42] <Sarren Nardieu> http://tinyurl.com/yaqvhzfq
L545[22:19:52] <Sarren Nardieu> this should work right?
L546[22:26:50] <Mimiru> fucking christ... I go to the zoo for the day, and miss ALL the fun.
L547[22:28:33] <Sarren Nardieu> you got to see cute cuddly thigns though
L548[22:29:08] <Mimiru> I also took 12k steps per my fitbit.. my feet/legs are KILLING me.
L549[22:29:48] <Sarren Nardieu> poor mimiru
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L552[22:31:36] <Sarren Nardieu> mimiru can you help me with my floppy disk problem?
L553[22:32:01] <Mimiru> very unlikely, I can hardly help myself with my not slam my head into my desk falling asleep problem.
L554[22:32:10] <Sarren Nardieu> ?
L555[22:33:22] <Sarren Nardieu> i feel like its something simple that im overlooking though
L556[22:33:45] <Sarren Nardieu> because i even get the problem in a minecraft instance that only has oc and jei installed
L557[22:35:16] <Sarren Nardieu> when i shift click my tablet the expansion slot thingy is always crossed out no matter what item i place into the expansion slot during the assembly process
L558[22:36:25] <Mimiru> I don't have a 1.12 instance handy.. but I'm giving it a shot in 1.11..
L559[22:36:35] <Sarren Nardieu> ?
L560[22:36:40] <Sarren Nardieu> thank you
L561[22:37:21] <Mimiru> ugh no JEI in this instance
L562[22:37:22] * Mimiru sighs
L563[22:39:34] <Mimiru> huh..
L564[22:40:00] <Sarren Nardieu> it doesnt work for you either?
L565[22:42:19] <Mimiru> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/2458 seems.. this has been around for a bit
L566[22:42:28] <Sarren Nardieu> thats me
L567[22:43:19] <Mimiru> I remember it working in 1.10.. I swear
L568[22:43:27] <Mimiru> But that pack takes ages to load.
L569[22:43:59] <Mimiru> Oh, no I have a test pack..
L570[22:47:05] <Mimiru> Yep, works in 1.10
L571[22:47:11] <Mimiru> broken in 1.11+
L572[22:47:18] <Sarren Nardieu> it seems funny that no one has identified/brought this up in 4 months xD
L573[22:47:40] <Sarren Nardieu> or for however long 1.11 has been out
L574[22:48:29] <Izaya> https://a.pomf.cat/jvncgn.png Been too long since I did something like this
L575[22:48:48] <Izaya> Spent the last hour or two exploring that :D
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L578[23:01:06] <pizza> hello
L579[23:01:23] <pizza> in geolyzer component,
L580[23:01:24] <pizza> scan(x:number, z:number[, y:number, w:number, d:number, h:number][, ignoreReplaceable:boolean|options:table]):table
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L582[23:01:42] <Guest29190> what does y,w,d,h and options:table mean?
L583[23:03:37] <david> Anyone know the best IRC client for OC?
L584[23:03:47] <Izaya> wocchat is probably the nicest
L585[23:04:01] <david> Ah bummer, I was hoping I could get a client that could scroll up and down.
L586[23:04:46] <Izaya> Could always telnet into a real machine I guess
L587[23:12:05] <gamax92> I wonder since ubuntu now has gcc 7 if the facebook devs will finally fix luaffifb
L588[23:14:02] <Izaya> https://a.pomf.cat/mzoctm.png
L589[23:14:19] <gamax92> oh, they've apparently disabled the issue tracker and archived the project.
L590[23:14:32] <Izaya> oh.
L591[23:14:38] <Izaya> RIP?
L592[23:14:55] <david> any other suggested programs for opencomputers? digging wocchat and big reactors controller
L593[23:16:46] <gamax92> gotta fix my quassel modifications for the new freetype, special lines are off by a pixel
L594[23:17:12] <gamax92> I say new but freetype 2.8 has been out for a while now
L595[23:24:24] <Izaya> 1.12 Zetta Industries: there's OC wire, but no OC connectors
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