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L3[00:23:12] <SAL9000> Saphire: apparently
yubikeys went closed-source and all the crypto nerds are boycotting
them now
L4[00:31:00] <Saphire> ...huh
L5[00:31:42] <Saphire> Is that even an
option? To close the source?
L6[00:34:01] <Saphire> SAL9000: so what is
the alternative?
L7[00:34:48] <SAL9000> Saphire: There's
apparently some other company (don't recall the name) putting out
similar tokens. As for closing the source -- they closed it for
their newer model(s?)
L8[00:35:23] <Saphire> D:
L9[00:36:09] <SAL9000> In any case, it's
probably safer to use a device with a screen -- so that if you're
using mechanisms like U2F, you can confirm that the request origin
does in fact match the apparent origin.
L10[00:46:46] <AmandaC> %tell Inari I
accidentally the rest of LWA now it's 2am, halp
L11[00:46:47] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Inari
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L16[02:09:39] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> howdy
L17[02:09:47] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> what
happened to computronic's webpage?
L18[02:09:58] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> /msg
NickServ VERIFY REGISTER Shawn|i7-Q720M ikgbqvkitzqw
L19[02:10:03] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> oops
L20[02:10:07] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> http://wiki.vex.tty.sh/wiki:computronics
L21[02:10:11] <Izaya> apparently it's
at
L22[02:10:31] <Izaya> https://wiki.vexatos.com/
L23[02:10:34] <Izaya> now
L24[02:10:42] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> oh
L25[02:10:44] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> ty
L26[02:10:54] <Izaya> that's what vex got
me to link to anyway
L27[02:11:32] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> cool
L28[02:14:25] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> too bad
vexatos's website doesn't include icons next to the item
names..
L29[02:14:48] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> I'm looking
for what is what, since I am getting tooltip errors from
computronics oc peripherals
L30[02:15:10] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> and the
whole opencomputers mod
L31[02:15:48] <gamax92> do I have to change
ocdoc again
L32[02:17:00] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> the modpack
jurassic world revelations is having major issues :(
L33[02:28:10] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> how could oc
cause a major crash ?
L34[02:29:35] 
<Lizzy> are
you sure it's OC?
<Lizzy> are
you sure it's OC?L35[02:29:44] <Lizzy> and
without seeing the crash log, noone knows
<Lizzy> and
without seeing the crash log, noone knowsL36[02:29:53] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> I'm just
looking at ThinkMC's discord scrollback
L37[02:30:18] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> I'm not sure
PChard would feel like sharing his log
L38[02:30:47] <Izaya> it occurs to me that
I don't actually know who's in discord and who's in IRC any
more
L39[02:32:50] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> heres what
he posted "OpenComputers has to be removed from the server due
to a major crash when using it." 8/29/2017
L40[02:36:50] <Lizzy> if
you could ask him to provide the crash report to us, maybe the
'bug' could get fixed
<Lizzy> if
you could ask him to provide the crash report to us, maybe the
'bug' could get fixedL41[02:38:09] <Lizzy> it
really pisses me off when modpack/server makers remove a mod
"because it causes crashes" yet they never fucking report
the issue to even get it fixed
<Lizzy> it
really pisses me off when modpack/server makers remove a mod
"because it causes crashes" yet they never fucking report
the issue to even get it fixedL42[02:47:30] <Lizzy>
contemplating if i want to jump on their discord and ask them to
actually report the issue....
<Lizzy>
contemplating if i want to jump on their discord and ask them to
actually report the issue....L43[02:48:39] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> that would
be a good idea
L44[02:49:01] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> my hopes to
build on that server were crushed..
L45[02:49:17] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> I need to
get some sleep
L46[02:49:48] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> at least I
can build a Jurassic park in singleplayer
L47[02:50:04] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> the modpack
is Jurassic World Revelations
L48[02:53:27] <Izaya> are there still
dinosaur mods
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L50[02:58:48] <Lizzy> k,
asked the owner to possibly report it, hopefully they do so the
issue can eb fixed
<Lizzy> k,
asked the owner to possibly report it, hopefully they do so the
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L52[03:26:12] <ben_mkiv> ok, so how do i
get tells from michibot?
L53[03:27:04] <gamax92> %tell ben_mkiv
hi
L54[03:27:04] <MichiBot> gamax92: ben_mkiv
will be notified of this message when next seen.
L55[03:27:16] <ben_mkiv> \o/
L56[03:27:26] <ben_mkiv> yea, he will
notifiy me that i got 2 tells?!
L57[03:27:37] <ben_mkiv> ah nvm
L58[03:27:48] <ben_mkiv> thanks gamax92
that toggled him to print the message
L59[03:30:47] <Skye> ben_mkiv, the bot is a
girl. :P
L60[03:35:49] <ben_mkiv> that explains my
success with him...
L61[03:36:02] <ben_mkiv> him/her^
L62[03:56:13] <Saphire> ... That's a very
weird replace format
L63[05:08:15] <ben_mkiv> weird is
relative...
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L65[05:22:31] zsh
sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L66[05:55:27] <ben_mkiv> %tell AmandaC the
method to translate is called addTranslation, you got addTranslate
in your code
L67[05:55:27] <MichiBot> ben_mkiv: AmandaC
will be notified of this message when next seen.
L68[05:57:04] <ben_mkiv> was thinking of
changing that to opengl namings
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L71[06:36:27] <LuMistry>
Greetings
<LuMistry>
GreetingsL72[06:40:19] <Arcanitor> hello
L73[06:40:54] <LuMistry>
How are you Arcanitor?
<LuMistry>
How are you Arcanitor?L74[06:50:32] <Izaya> This is getting
confusing...
L75[06:50:52] <LuMistry>
What is getting confusing?
<LuMistry>
What is getting confusing?L76[06:51:23] <Izaya> I can't tell who's in
Discord and who's in IRC because I have a thing to rewrite Corded
messages to hide the Corded part
L77[06:51:56] <LuMistry>
If that's confusing you, then you should reverse the process.
<LuMistry>
If that's confusing you, then you should reverse the process.L78[06:52:14] <SAL9000> or tag the discord
messages with something
L79[06:53:10] <Izaya> Need to mess with the
trigger I guess
L80[06:53:16] <LuMistry>
That could work, but I think that interferes with the reasoning
behind stripping the <Corded> part
<LuMistry>
That could work, but I think that interferes with the reasoning
behind stripping the <Corded> partL81[06:54:13] <SAL9000> stripping
<Corded> is still useful because it puts the nicks in the
right place then
L82[06:54:20] <Michiyo> Discord users are
prefixed with ^ in my script.
L83[06:54:24] <LuMistry>
True
<LuMistry>
TrueL84[06:54:52] <SAL9000> Izaya: Do you have
something to make completion work across the Discord-IRC boundary
as well? :P
L85[06:55:03] <Izaya> nah
L86[06:55:20] <Izaya> Everyone I'd bother
talking to uses the same name on both
L87[06:57:21] <MGR> I’m
about 75% done tearing it down….and this thing is NASTY from
whatever was spilled in it….and the wife THEN proceeds to decide
that NOW is a good time to tell me what happened to the laptop;
“Yeah, I got sick in it…” --- Quote 1/3
<MGR> I’m
about 75% done tearing it down….and this thing is NASTY from
whatever was spilled in it….and the wife THEN proceeds to decide
that NOW is a good time to tell me what happened to the laptop;
“Yeah, I got sick in it…” --- Quote 1/3L88[06:57:27] <MGR>
WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
<MGR>
WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYL89[07:00:23] <Michiyo> I had a laptop when
I worked at apple... owner had.. jizzed on the KB
L90[07:01:00] <MGR>
That's
<MGR>
That'sL91[07:01:09] <Michiyo> I promptly stuck
that fucker in a haphazard bag and took a break... since I had
powered it on and was in the middle of testing it when I got the
notes.
L92[07:01:16] <Michiyo> haphazard?
L93[07:01:21] <Michiyo> BIOHAZARD.
L94[07:01:41] <Izaya> I think Louis Rossman
has a video with that particular situation
L95[07:01:44] <Corded> * <MGR> begins
collapsing inwards
L96[07:02:20] <Izaya> unsanitary though
>.> you don't have to do that shit ON your computer
L97[07:02:59] <MGR> Yeah,
I know it's unsanitary and you don't have to. That's the whole
point
<MGR> Yeah,
I know it's unsanitary and you don't have to. That's the whole
pointL98[07:09:58] <Arcanitor> MGR: reading
/r/tfts/ ?
L99[07:10:22] <MGR>
Yep
<MGR>
YepL100[07:23:23] *
AshIndigo throws his laptop out the window
L101[07:23:44] <MGR>
?
<MGR>
?L102[07:23:57] <Izaya> [the window throws
it back]
L103[07:24:17] <MGR> It's
happening! It's the uprising of the glass!
<MGR> It's
happening! It's the uprising of the glass!L104[07:25:11] *
Arcanitor has a 5-lb sledge shipped to AshIndigo in a violin
case
L105[07:25:44] <Arcanitor> and before
anyone murders me for using imperial units, sledgehammers are
measured in pounds
L106[07:25:55] <Arcanitor> you can't buy a
5kg sledgehammer, there is no such thing
L107[07:26:02] *
Izaya makes a 5kg sledgehammer
L108[07:26:17] <Arcanitor> (this may not
be true in every country)
L109[07:26:38] <Vexatos> I can buy them
everywhere
L110[07:26:45] <Arcanitor> everywhere you
say
L111[07:27:11] <Izaya> http://mt.rsdelivers.com/product/bahco/ns502-5000-fb/bahco-5kg-sledgehammer-835mm-handle/1248301
L112[07:28:25] <MGR> Izaya,
on vacation?
<MGR> Izaya,
on vacation?L113[07:29:10] <Vexatos> Arcanitor, on the
Internet, in any of the five tool shops nearby
L114[07:29:18] <Vexatos> Hell, I could ask
my mother, she works at one
L115[07:29:38] <Izaya> bunnings probably
sells them
L116[07:29:43] <Vexatos> (technically, she
works for a company that sells tools to these stores)
L117[07:29:45] <Izaya> and they're
everywhere
L118[07:29:57] <Vexatos> ye
L119[07:30:00] <Izaya> over here they're
everywhere anyway
L120[07:30:06] <Corded> * <MGR>
makes a note
L121[07:30:14] <Vexatos> Arcanitor, just
because your country is bad at units doesn't mean every other
country is :P
L122[07:31:01] <Izaya> https://www.bunnings.com.au/our-range/tools/hand-tools/hammers-wreckers/sledge-hammers
they seem to like 1.8kg ones
L123[07:31:56] <MGR> 1.8kg
is roughly equivalent to 4 pounds
<MGR> 1.8kg
is roughly equivalent to 4 poundsL124[07:32:01] <Vexatos> Michiyo, and this
is why you always have a bottle of 85% alcohol nearby ._.
L125[07:32:13] <MGR>
Vexatos, to drink?
<MGR>
Vexatos, to drink?L126[07:32:16] <Vexatos> No
L127[07:32:20] <Vexatos> To clean
L128[07:32:31] <MGR> ......
You missed the joke
<MGR> ......
You missed the jokeL129[07:32:38] <Vexatos> It's not a
joke
L130[07:32:49] <MGR> I made
a joke about your statement
<MGR> I made
a joke about your statementL131[07:32:55] <Vexatos> That's like
saying "to drink?" when I am talking about tar or
wood
L132[07:33:15] <Vexatos> "I am buying
a house" - "to drink?"
L133[07:33:21] <Vexatos> not particularly
funny
L134[07:33:30] <MGR> Yeah,
but you don't drink those things
<MGR> Yeah,
but you don't drink those thingsL135[07:33:42] <MGR> But,
whatever
<MGR> But,
whateverL136[07:33:45] <Arcanitor> 85% alcohol is
most likely to be for sanitizing
L137[07:34:00] <Vexatos> You don't drink
85% alcohol either
L138[07:34:04] <Vexatos> That's my entire
point
L139[07:34:07] <MGR>
*sighs*, forget about it
<MGR>
*sighs*, forget about itL140[07:34:15] <Izaya> just keep some
methylated spirits around
L141[07:34:18] <Arcanitor> probably
isopropyl alcohol, which is sold in concentrations ranging from 70%
to 90% as i've seen
L142[07:34:26] <Vexatos> Yes
L143[07:34:28] <Izaya> if anyone's dumb
enough to drink a purple liquid then that's on them
L144[07:34:30] <Vexatos> I was talking
about isoprop >_>
L145[07:34:43] <Arcanitor> isoprop is for
cleaning stuff and disinfecting things
L146[07:34:48] <Vexatos> that stuff has
the advantage of evaporating fast
L147[07:34:53] <Vexatos> faster than
ethanol, anyhow
L148[07:35:00] <Izaya> not 100% sure what
methylated spirits is used for tbh
L149[07:35:02] <Vexatos> And it's not
nearly as expensive as acetone
L150[07:35:05] <Arcanitor> works
especially well on soft/porous surfaces where you can't really
clean them well
L151[07:35:19] <Izaya> I remember it was
purple and my dad had some for something to do with cars
L152[07:35:21] <Vexatos> Although I tend
to clean everything with acetone
L153[07:35:27] <Vexatos> but then again I
don't need to pay for it
L154[07:35:28] <Vexatos> sooo
L155[07:35:44] <Arcanitor> Izaya: in the
US we call it denatured alcohol
L156[07:35:48] <Arcanitor> you use it to
clean stuff
L157[07:36:06] <Izaya> but not the same
stuff I guess?
L158[07:36:09] <ben_mkiv> most likely to
degrease at cars
L159[07:36:09] <Arcanitor> you can get
permanent marker or pen out of upholstry (sometimes)
L160[07:36:22] <Vexatos> Izaya, you use
methylated spirits for driving out malicious spirits in haunted
houses
L161[07:36:23] <Arcanitor> isopropyl is
more of a disinfectant than a cleaner
L162[07:36:28] <Vexatos> methylated
spirits are more harmless
L163[07:36:34] <Vexatos> so they
statistically replace them
L164[07:36:41] <Vexatos> If you only have
enough of them
L165[07:37:01] <Vexatos> I study
chemistry, you can trust me on this
L166[07:37:17] <ben_mkiv>
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
L167[07:37:40] <Arcanitor> according to
wikipedia (which we all know is omniscient) denatured alcohol only
exists because you can sell it without it being taxed
ridiculously
L168[07:37:48] <Arcanitor> because it
isn't safe for consumption, at all
L169[07:37:58] <Michiyo> Oct 19 08:38:26
victory2 systemd[1]: dev-disk-by\x2dpartlabel-primary.device: Dev
dev-disk-by\x2dpartlabel-primary.device appeared twice with
different sysfs paths
/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:03.2/0000:06:00.0/host0/target0:2:0/0:2:0:0/block/sda/sda2
and
/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:03.2/0000:06:00.0/host0/target0:2:0/0:2:0:0/block/sda/sda4
L170[07:38:01] *
Michiyo headdesks
L171[07:38:20] <Michiyo> gee why is my
syslog so damn huge... cause theres 4,000,000,000 lines of
THAT
L172[07:39:03] <Vexatos> We always have a
few bottles of acetone around in our labs because we use it to
clean glassware (we use permanent marker to... mark them for
obvious reasons); acetone also dissolves most substances we deal
with so it makes cleaning very easy in most cases
L173[07:39:21] <Vexatos> isoprop is
basically the cheap alternative to that
L174[07:39:31] <MGR> Me
"Hi there NCE I was calling about your location that has been
offline in our system for quite some time now" NCE "Nope,
as of early this after noon it was reduced a few stories. Once
hazmat and fire crews finish their job we'll see if we can salvage
the location" --- Quote 2/3
<MGR> Me
"Hi there NCE I was calling about your location that has been
offline in our system for quite some time now" NCE "Nope,
as of early this after noon it was reduced a few stories. Once
hazmat and fire crews finish their job we'll see if we can salvage
the location" --- Quote 2/3L175[07:39:39] <MGR> Most
chill response to a building explosion I've ever seen
<MGR> Most
chill response to a building explosion I've ever seenL176[07:39:39] <Vexatos> It also dissolves
a lot of things, and evaporates quickly
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L178[07:40:23] <Arcanitor> so, denatured
alcohol / methylated spirits is basically ethanol with dye,
bitterant, and occasionally other chemicals added to make it
undrinkable
L179[07:41:04] <Vexatos> ...I should buy a
can of isoprop for personal use :I
L180[07:41:14] <Arcanitor> Vexatos: how
much of a fire hazard are these things
L181[07:41:28] <Vexatos> None if you are
not pyromaniac or stupid
L182[07:41:34] <Arcanitor> i know the
higher concentrations of isoprop have "keep away from open
flame" warnings
L183[07:41:45] <Vexatos> Which both are
requirements for studying chemistry, fortunately >_>
L184[07:41:52] <Arcanitor> i'm just
wondering how flammable they are
L185[07:41:59] <Vexatos> I mean, there is
a pyromaniac in the same semester as I am
L186[07:42:02] <Vexatos> But he takes
medication now
L187[07:42:04] <Vexatos> so it's
fine
L188[07:42:27] <Vexatos> Arcanitor, well
isoprop evaporates quickly, so obviously it's highly
flammable
L189[07:42:47] <Vexatos> There's always a
lot of gaseous isoprop near an open bottle
L190[07:42:53] <Vexatos> So uuh
L191[07:43:00] <Vexatos> Don't ever leave
your bottle open
L192[07:43:01] <Arcanitor> it smells quite
distinct
L193[07:43:02] <Vexatos> very easy
L194[07:43:08] <Vexatos> most solvents
do
L195[07:43:14] <Vexatos> I can distinguish
them by smell nowadays
L196[07:43:30] <Arcanitor> I think the
stupidest thing I've ever done was standing next to a campfire into
which a metal canister of propane or MAPP gas (I forget which) had
been thrown
L197[07:43:58] <Arcanitor> (why was I
doing that? I was putting out the fire with a hose, to get the
canister out)
L198[07:44:28] <Vexatos> acetone, isoprop,
ethanol, DCM, MTBE, etc etc... Also know the smell of toluene and
methanol but uuuuh don't ever get yourself in a situation where you
will smell either of those
L199[07:44:28] <Arcanitor> I didn't
realize at the time that I was basically standing next to a grenade
:L
L200[07:44:37] <Arcanitor> methanol is
poisonous
L201[07:44:46] <Vexatos> ...I am
aware.
L202[07:44:49] <Arcanitor> i don't know
anything about toluene
L203[07:45:02] <Vexatos> It's _pretty_
carcinogenic
L204[07:45:11] <Arcanitor> is it poisonous
to breathe too? I thought you just weren't supposed to breathe
it
L205[07:45:23] <Vexatos> well if you want
lung cancer, go ahead
L206[07:46:30] <Vexatos> Some of the
chemistry supervisors in my lab courses are _pretty_ relaxed,
basically, acids are perfectly harmless because you have 45 seconds
to wash them off anyway, poisons are harmless because all you have
to do is not drink them, the only thing we really need to worry
about are substances that cause cancer
L207[07:46:44] <Vexatos> Toluene is one of
the few liquids we were actually told to be properly careful
with
L208[07:46:50] <Vexatos> Along with
DCM
L209[07:46:55] <Arcanitor> what about fun
things like CF3
L210[07:47:16] <Vexatos> Yes because I
deal with that on a daily basis
L211[07:47:33] <Vexatos> I am only talking
about things I actually used in my life :P
L212[07:48:10] <Vexatos> most organic
solvents can cause cancer, but isoprop, acetone and ethanol are
suuuper harmless
L213[07:48:13] <Arcanitor> sorry that's
ClF3 not CF3
L214[07:48:32] <Vexatos> acetone can cause
frostbite if you get too much on your hands
L215[07:48:35] <Vexatos> but that's about
it
L216[07:48:38] <Arcanitor> my college
chemistry course was not as exciting as yours sounds
L217[07:48:46] <Arcanitor> Vexatos:
evaporative cooling?
L218[07:48:56] <Vexatos> As I said, it
evaporates quickly
L219[07:49:13] <Arcanitor> is that WHY it
will cause frostbite though
L220[07:49:21] <Vexatos> It's very good
for cleaning because things are dry again after around ten
seconds
L221[07:49:25] <Vexatos> yes
L222[07:49:26] <Vexatos> it is.
L223[07:49:32] <Arcanitor> have you read
this person's blog: http://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/category/things-i-wont-work-with
L224[07:50:15] <Arcanitor> I have an uncle
who works in the industrial explosives industry
L225[07:50:42] <Inari> .
L226[07:51:02] <Vexatos> I have never been
to a college so I don't know how boring a college chemistry course
is >_>
L227[07:51:21] <Vexatos> But at
university, 50% of my time is spent in a laboratory of some
sort
L228[07:52:57] <Vexatos> Arcanitor, I
don't know much about explosives other than the substances I myself
dealt with, but there was a pretty cool talk at my uni a while ago
by Prof. Thomas Klapötke who's basically _the_ explosives expert
and researcher in Germany
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L232[08:05:14] <Arcanitor> what does
"revamp" mod do
L233[08:05:58] <S3> Vexatos: so
L234[08:06:11] <S3> Vexatos: I had very
little fun in my college chem courses
L235[08:06:22] <S3> the labs were mostly
writing...
L236[08:06:29] <S3> writing writing and
more writing then even more writing
L237[08:06:38] <Vexatos> well duh of
course I have to write lab reports
L238[08:06:56] <Vexatos> But if I spend 24
hours a week doing an experment
L239[08:06:59] <Vexatos> experiment*
L240[08:07:07] <Vexatos> It doesn't really
bother me :P
L241[08:07:12] <Arcanitor> a
"college" is much less likely to have proper lab setups
than a university
L242[08:07:20] <Arcanitor> especially a
community college
L243[08:07:41] <Vexatos> what is a
community college
L244[08:08:33] <Arcanitor> a form of
postsecondary education that is less rigorous than a regular
college or university
L245[08:08:40] <S3> Arcanitor: you're
making an assumption that just because the word college was used
that it's not a university
L246[08:08:46] <S3> I go to a pretty well
known University
L247[08:08:52] <S3> :)
L248[08:08:56] <Arcanitor> this definitely
isn't a university
L249[08:09:00] <Arcanitor> that i
attend
L250[08:09:02] <S3> college, niversity, we
call them the same thing here
L251[08:09:19] <Arcanitor> yes, in the US
the terms are pretty much synonyms
L252[08:09:21] <S3> we know there's a
difference but if I say I'm going to college it doesn't mean I'm
not attending a university
L253[08:09:23] <S3> heh
L254[08:09:32] <Arcanitor> but a
"community college" is a distinct institution
L255[08:09:45] <S3> yeah I went to
community college first to get my associates
L256[08:09:54] <Arcanitor> pretty much a
big high school except the courses are post-secondary level
courses
L257[08:10:08] <Arcanitor> and the tuition
is way lower than most postsecondary schools
L258[08:10:15] <Vexatos> I just made my
Abitur and went straight to university ._.
L259[08:10:23] <Vexatos> Uni is basically
free over here anyway
L260[08:10:34] <S3> to be honest, the
automation engineering and computer science stuff at my community
college was pretty good. But it also helped that it was a branch
off of the university and transferred 100% to it
L261[08:10:44] <Skye> In the UK college is
between university and secondary
L262[08:11:01] <Vexatos> Well, I pay €350
per semester :I €230 of that is a public transport ticket for
everything in a 100km radius though, which is pretty nice :I
L263[08:11:11] <S3> so Skye I read an
interesting paper on drug addiction
L264[08:11:39] <S3> Skye: and it just so
happened to state that in places where people don't cooperate and
communicate with eachother openly are much more prone to have
problems with drug abuse
L265[08:11:43] <Arcanitor> yes but in the
US we have to pay a considerable amount for our education and so
many students will get an associates degree in general studies or
liberal arts to cover the common core courses before going to a
university for their major
L266[08:11:56] <Vexatos> I see
L267[08:12:04] <S3> Skye: what's your take
on that?
L268[08:12:22] <Skye> S3, I have no data
nor anecdotes
L269[08:13:32] <S3> Skye: it just reminded
me of what you said about where you are from people don't
intercommunicate, and they seclude themselves in their own worlds,
etc
L270[08:13:34] <S3> in public
L271[08:13:39] <Arcanitor> we had the drug
division of the local police come into the high school (secondary
school) one day and basically it was them talking about how
overdosing on people's perscription drugs can easily kill you
L272[08:13:56] <Arcanitor> strangely they
said not one word about "street drugs"
L273[08:14:09] <S3> lol
L274[08:14:16] <S3> in the US we have
D.A.R.E.
L275[08:14:22] <Arcanitor> i am in the US
silly
L276[08:14:27] <S3> which actually makes
drugs look fantastic
L277[08:14:30] <S3> LOL
L278[08:14:48] <S3> Arcanitor: how would I
know that
L279[08:14:54] <Arcanitor> because i said
it before
L280[08:14:57] <S3> Okay
L281[08:15:01] <Vexatos> DARE standing for
"Drug Are Really Entertaining"?
L282[08:15:05] <S3> Apparently I am not
part of the US
L283[08:15:07] <Arcanitor> also that I use
"high school" instead of "secondary school" or
whatever
L284[08:15:28] <S3> Arcanitor: Is Maine
part of the US?
L285[08:15:34] <MGR>
Yes
<MGR>
YesL286[08:15:36] <Arcanitor> last i checked,
yes
L287[08:15:41] <S3> Ok
L288[08:15:47] <Arcanitor> did you get
annexed by canada while i wasn't looking
L289[08:15:49] <S3> I was just curious if
you thought it was part of Canada
L290[08:15:53] <MGR> Until
the trees grow dense enough that all communication is cut off
<MGR> Until
the trees grow dense enough that all communication is cut offL291[08:16:09] <Skye> S3, I kinda
exaggerated
L292[08:16:17] <S3> MGR: 99.99% of Maine
is all woodland
L293[08:16:25] <Arcanitor> sounds
nice
L294[08:16:27] <S3> for our little
state
L295[08:16:33] <S3> we have over 17.5
MILLION acres of woods
L296[08:16:36] <MGR>
Arcanitor, if Maine was invaded, you'd be able to track their
process by a line of 2m of snow steadily advancing
<MGR>
Arcanitor, if Maine was invaded, you'd be able to track their
process by a line of 2m of snow steadily advancingL297[08:16:37] <S3> 17.5 MILLION!
L298[08:16:43] <MGR>
Because Canada is always buried in snow
<MGR>
Because Canada is always buried in snowL299[08:16:45] <Arcanitor> 99.99% of
florida is way too humid
L300[08:16:57] <Arcanitor> source: live in
florida
L301[08:17:03] <MGR> S3, I
know Maine is mostly woodland, it's why I make the Mainiac jokes I
do
<MGR> S3, I
know Maine is mostly woodland, it's why I make the Mainiac jokes I
doL302[08:17:22] <Vexatos> Germany is 32%
forest
L303[08:17:26] <Vexatos> Think about
that
L304[08:17:28] <Arcanitor> also the
stereotype about floridians being idiots is largely true
L305[08:17:36] <Vexatos> Being 26 times as
densely populated as the US :U
L306[08:17:50] <MGR> I
thought the stereotype was that everyone in Florida is old?
<MGR> I
thought the stereotype was that everyone in Florida is old?L307[08:17:58] <Michiyo> and stupid.
L308[08:18:03] <Michiyo> source: I lived
there.
L309[08:18:04] <Arcanitor> go browse
/r/floridaman for a bit
L310[08:18:07] <MGR> Ah, I
missed that last part
<MGR> Ah, I
missed that last partL311[08:18:45] <Michiyo> ofc, now I live
in arkansas... so here it's dumb rednecks...
L312[08:18:48] <Michiyo> I'm not sure
which is worse.
L313[08:19:02] <Arcanitor> we have dumb
rednecks here too
L314[08:19:03] <S3> Michiyo: just wave a
sign saying Jesus was black
L315[08:19:03] <MGR> I'm
aware of that stereotype
<MGR> I'm
aware of that stereotypeL316[08:19:12] <S3> to get them
going
L317[08:19:22] <Michiyo> Arcanitor, yeah,
but not near as many as we have.. :P
L318[08:19:23] <Arcanitor> S3: that seems
like it would dramatically decrease your life expectancy
L319[08:19:29] <S3> ok so like
L320[08:19:39] <Michiyo> Nah, I don't need
MORE things to make people want to kill me.
L321[08:19:41] <Arcanitor> my grandparents
live in arkansas as well
L322[08:20:08] <S3> I was reading my peers
papers for one of my classes today right? Somebody ACTUALLY claimed
Jesus was not white and started making a bunch of biblic chapter
references
L323[08:20:13] <S3> I was like.. wtf...
don't do that..
L324[08:20:41] <Arcanitor> why does it
matter what race jesus was
L325[08:21:06] <Michiyo> But yeah... not
gonna add more fuel to the fire. so I'll pass on the sign.
L326[08:21:11] <Michiyo> :P
L327[08:21:23] <MGR>
Michiyo, have it strapped to the back of your car as you move to
Oregon?
<MGR>
Michiyo, have it strapped to the back of your car as you move to
Oregon?L328[08:21:37] <MGR> Or
will the rednecks jump in their pickup trucks and follow you?
<MGR> Or
will the rednecks jump in their pickup trucks and follow you?L329[08:21:48] <Arcanitor> just have a
road tack dispenser
L330[08:21:58] <Arcanitor> you'll need big
road tacks but it should do the trick
L331[08:21:59] <Michiyo> Probably....
:P
L332[08:22:04] <Arcanitor> although that
might be a felony
L333[08:22:26] <MGR> Road
tacks, spike strips, RPGs, all the same things
<MGR> Road
tacks, spike strips, RPGs, all the same thingsL334[08:22:35] <MGR> Or
make the move in an M1A1 TUSK Abrams
<MGR> Or
make the move in an M1A1 TUSK AbramsL335[08:22:39] <Arcanitor> also, most
rednecks i've met were not particularly Christian
L336[08:22:50] <Michiyo> Bible Belt...
weeeee
L337[08:22:55] <Arcanitor> oh right
L338[08:23:24] <Michiyo> I live in a town
of 8k, there are like 10 large churches, and LOTS of smaller
ones.
L339[08:23:40] <MGR> I
would love to make a commute to work in an Abrams for one day
<MGR> I
would love to make a commute to work in an Abrams for one dayL340[08:23:56] <MGR> I'd
follow all the traffic rules and not crush cars, etc. but it would
still be so fun
<MGR> I'd
follow all the traffic rules and not crush cars, etc. but it would
still be so funL341[08:24:05] <Arcanitor> I think you're
underestimating how loud and uncomfortable that would be
L342[08:24:13] <MGR> That's
why it would be for one day
<MGR> That's
why it would be for one dayL343[08:24:28] <MGR>
Because the novelty would wear off, and the fuel+maintenance costs
would be extraordinary
<MGR>
Because the novelty would wear off, and the fuel+maintenance costs
would be extraordinaryL344[08:24:29] <Arcanitor> how fast are
modern tanks
L345[08:24:58] <Arcanitor> in the US you
can legally own and fly surplus outdated fighter jets
L346[08:25:00] <Michiyo> M1a2 maximum
speed of 67.5km/h.
L347[08:25:02] <MGR>
45mph/72kph on a road with the governer
<MGR>
45mph/72kph on a road with the governerL348[08:25:12] <MGR> Oh
yeah, the upgrade slowed it
<MGR> Oh
yeah, the upgrade slowed itL349[08:25:27] <MGR> But,
everyone disables the governor, so it goes faster
<MGR> But,
everyone disables the governor, so it goes fasterL350[08:25:37] <S3> Arcanitor: I want a
paramotor to go back and forth between campus
L351[08:25:41] <Michiyo> Off to work
L352[08:25:43] <MGR> With
the engine governor removed, speeds of around 60 mph (97 km/h) are
possible on an improved surface
<MGR> With
the engine governor removed, speeds of around 60 mph (97 km/h) are
possible on an improved surfaceL353[08:25:59] <S3> Arcanitor: ever seen a
bumper car go just over 100 Mph?
L354[08:26:11] <Corded> * <MGR>
pictures driving down the nearest highway in a tank
L355[08:26:25] <Arcanitor> no, at that
speeds impacts with other bumper cars would be lethal
L356[08:26:29] <S3> Now I mean, it -was-
modified.. they put a bike engine in it
L357[08:26:40] <S3> just..
L358[08:26:46] <S3> don't turn the
steering weel all the way
L359[08:26:51] <S3> because that's reverse
on a bumper car..
L360[08:27:06] <Lizzy> S3,
was Colin Furz involved with it?
<Lizzy> S3,
was Colin Furz involved with it?L361[08:27:29] <S3> Yes. also the wheel
was replaced too
L362[08:27:43] <S3> Colin Furz is
hilarious
L363[08:27:49] <Arcanitor> I had an idea
once to mount solid rocket motors on a quad copter
L364[08:27:51] <MGR>
Arcanitor, if I fit the LV100-5 engine, it will be quieter, and I
will get better fuel efficiency
<MGR>
Arcanitor, if I fit the LV100-5 engine, it will be quieter, and I
will get better fuel efficiencyL365[08:28:06] <S3> fuel efficiency? who
cares about fuel efficiency?
L366[08:28:16] <MGR> I'd
get about 1MPG
<MGR> I'd
get about 1MPGL367[08:28:20] <Arcanitor> don't most
modern tanks use turboshaft engines
L368[08:28:31] <MGR> Most
do, but the Abrams uses a Gas Turbine
<MGR> Most
do, but the Abrams uses a Gas TurbineL369[08:28:34] <S3> I have a Jeep, I
bought it with a manual transmission. -That's- fuel
efficiency
L370[08:28:38] <S3> heheh
L371[08:28:41] <MGR> A.K.A.
Jet Engine
<MGR> A.K.A.
Jet EngineL372[08:28:43]
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L373[08:28:49] <S3> I get between 18 and
30 MPG
L374[08:28:53] <Arcanitor> mgr: that's
still a turboshaft
L375[08:29:27] <S3> now, I looked in the
books, and apparently there is an upgrade for my 215 HP V6
L376[08:29:29] <Arcanitor> better than my
truck used to get, before someone hit me and totaled it
L377[08:29:30] <S3> for the jeep
L378[08:29:39] <S3> there's a 350 HP V8
replacement
L379[08:29:44] <S3> should I get it?
L380[08:29:50] <MGR>
Arcanitor, ah, I thought you were talking about a diesel
engine
<MGR>
Arcanitor, ah, I thought you were talking about a diesel
engineL381[08:30:08] <MGR> S3, as
for fuel efficiency, I care about the environment and my
wallet
<MGR> S3, as
for fuel efficiency, I care about the environment and my
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L383[08:30:30] <S3> I think getting
between 18 mpg and 30 mpg is good
L384[08:30:36] <Arcanitor> no, a
turboshaft is a turbine engine designed to output most of its power
to a rotating shaft rather than as thrust
L385[08:30:40] <MGR> Higher
is better
<MGR> Higher
is betterL386[08:30:42] <S3> I get about 30 when on
the highway or on long backroad drives on routes
L387[08:30:43] <Lizzy>
surely buying a tank negates both enviromental impact and wallet
impact?
<Lizzy>
surely buying a tank negates both enviromental impact and wallet
impact?L388[08:30:51] <MGR>
Arcanitor, yep, just misunderstood you
<MGR>
Arcanitor, yep, just misunderstood youL389[08:30:52] <S3> I get about 18 to 24
in town
L390[08:31:08] <Lizzy> err,
not negates, can't think of the right word
<Lizzy> err,
not negates, can't think of the right wordL391[08:31:10] <MGR> @Lizzy
True, but I have an odd mix of reality and fantasy
<MGR> @Lizzy
True, but I have an odd mix of reality and fantasyL392[08:31:16] <Corded> * <MGR> rubs
chin
L393[08:31:16] <S3> MGR But the benefit of
the V6 outweighs the care of efficiency in town
L394[08:31:16] <Lizzy> that
you do
<Lizzy> that
you doL395[08:31:30] <MGR> I can
always drive up to a gas station and demand free gas, but that
doesn't help the environment
<MGR> I can
always drive up to a gas station and demand free gas, but that
doesn't help the environmentL396[08:31:32] <Arcanitor> what if you had
a tank that ran on an electric motor powered by hydrogen fuel cells
or sth
L397[08:31:45] <MGR> That
would be an interesting tank
<MGR> That
would be an interesting tankL398[08:31:46] <S3> I have an unbelievable
ammount of torque in this Jeep, it's fascinating
L399[08:31:53] <Arcanitor> MGR: if I ever
have a tank to sell, remind me not to sell you ammo
L400[08:32:01] <MGR> S3,
fuel efficiency impacts the dollar long term, and the
environment
<MGR> S3,
fuel efficiency impacts the dollar long term, and the
environmentL401[08:32:14] <MGR>
Arcanitor, I wouldn't want to actually shoot stuff
<MGR>
Arcanitor, I wouldn't want to actually shoot stuffL402[08:32:20] <MGR>
Because I can't shoot and drive
<MGR>
Because I can't shoot and driveL403[08:32:34] <MGR> I'd
need other people to help, and that would be difficult
<MGR> I'd
need other people to help, and that would be difficultL404[08:32:34] <S3> MGR Problem is here in
Maine your nice little 50 MPG 4 cylinder cars have very few places
they can drive well.
L405[08:32:43] <S3> it's important to have
something with at least a little power
L406[08:33:02] <Arcanitor> or in
virginia
L407[08:33:07] <MGR> My
parents car has great mileage (not 50 MPG admittedly), but it has
plenty of power
<MGR> My
parents car has great mileage (not 50 MPG admittedly), but it has
plenty of powerL408[08:33:12] <Arcanitor> or the rocky
mountains
L409[08:33:35] <MGR> If
you're driving in rough terrain, your fuel mileage is going to be
pretty bad anyways
<MGR> If
you're driving in rough terrain, your fuel mileage is going to be
pretty bad anywaysL410[08:34:04] <S3> I was driving a 5
speed scion with 100 HP MGR, and I had to take it out to pick up my
Jeep up north in the woods. I had to drop down to second gear just
to make it up some of those hills on the paved roads
L411[08:34:07] <Arcanitor> let's see how
badly this modpack breaks
L412[08:34:11] <S3> that's how steep the
roads are in this state
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L414[08:34:29] <S3> mind you i was going
15 MPH or less up these hills
L415[08:34:34] <S3> with cars behind me
getting annoyed
L416[08:34:50] <Arcanitor> Vexatos: is
there documentation on what libraries are available without an OS
installed
L417[08:34:57] <Arcanitor> e.g. if you are
using a drone or microprocessor
L418[08:35:12] <ben_mkiv> yea
L419[08:35:13] <payonel> Arcanitor: there
was a wiki page on custom oses
L420[08:35:15] <ben_mkiv> none
L421[08:35:21] <payonel> ben_mkiv: :P not
true
L422[08:35:26] <S3> MGR: My jeep has so
much torque that it makes it up those hills in fifth gear no
problem, and it's a 6 speed with overdrive.
L423[08:35:30] <payonel> Arcanitor:
basically component and computer
L424[08:35:30] <ben_mkiv> components are
available, not libs?!
L425[08:35:39] <MGR>
Ok
<MGR>
OkL426[08:35:45] <payonel> ~w custom
L427[08:35:45] <ocdoc> Predicted http://ocd.cil.li/tutorial:custom_oses
L428[08:35:48] <S3> so in reality, it's
not just the mpg, you need to balance your need for power too
L429[08:36:04] <MGR> Yes,
but that's a specialized circumstance
<MGR> Yes,
but that's a specialized circumstanceL430[08:36:13] <MGR> And
that's always the case
<MGR> And
that's always the caseL431[08:36:15] <S3> that's life in
Maine
L432[08:36:23] <S3> it's just the way our
roads are
L433[08:36:24] <MGR> A bike
has excellent MPG, but the power is pretty bad
<MGR> A bike
has excellent MPG, but the power is pretty badL434[08:36:28] <payonel> Arcanitor: the
ocdoc link will help
L435[08:36:48] <S3> bike as in motorcycle
or bicycle?
L436[08:36:50] <Arcanitor> payonel: i
guess these are still useful if i'm not writing an os but rather
programming an eeprom to run something like a drone or
microprocessor
L437[08:37:17] <S3> we have motorized
bicycles here
L438[08:37:18] <S3> :D
L439[08:37:27] <MGR>
Bicycle, human pedaled
<MGR>
Bicycle, human pedaledL440[08:37:29] <S3> to help people get up
hills
L441[08:37:37] <S3> most of us have 21
speed bikes
L442[08:37:54] <MGR>
Ok
<MGR>
OkL443[08:38:02] <S3> need that extra low
gear ratio you know
L444[08:38:15] <Arcanitor> also useful for
riding through grass...
L445[08:38:30] <S3> some people still have
10 speeds but they're only great in the city really
L446[08:38:44] <Arcanitor> it has come to
my attention that i am an oblivious idiot
L447[08:38:49] <S3> oh?
L448[08:39:02] <payonel> Arcanitor:
running from eeprom is essentially os programming in oc context
:)
L449[08:39:03] <Arcanitor> repeatedly
forgot to remove old mod versions after updating
L450[08:39:11] <Arcanitor> payonel:
thanks
L451[08:39:19] <payonel> yeps
L452[08:39:52] <S3> Skye: hm. an OC
component interaction block may be useful
L453[08:39:56] <S3> for the 6309
L454[08:40:22] <Skye> Hm
L455[08:40:43] <S3> MGR so a lot of people
here buy trucks and I would love to have a truck, I just don't want
to get 14 MPG
L456[08:40:55] <MGR>
Ok
<MGR>
OkL457[08:40:58] <S3> My Jeep is a Liberty
so it has a lot of storage space for my toolboxes and saws and
stuff
L458[08:41:03] <S3> so I think it's worth
it
L459[08:41:33] <S3> but what may interest
you
L460[08:41:36] <Arcanitor> are you a
carpenter S3
L461[08:41:52] <S3> is that a friend of
mine just got a greyhound bus from 1972 and it gets about 1100 -
1300 miles per tank
L462[08:42:11] <MGR>
Ok
<MGR>
OkL463[08:42:12] <Arcanitor> how big is the
tank, 100 gallons?
L464[08:42:36] <S3> Arcanitor: No. I can
do carpentry though, I have a portable forge for working with
metal, a small portable anvil, but carry a lot of other tools too
for just helping people with their house projects
L465[08:42:41] <S3> it's about 200 gallons
or so
L466[08:42:44] <S3> for disel
L467[08:42:46] <S3> diesel*
L468[08:42:59] <Arcanitor> so 5MPG diesel,
but it carries probably 20-30 people
L469[08:43:01] <S3> I don't want to know
the cost of filling that up
L470[08:43:16] <Arcanitor> ez math, if you
know the current price of diesel
L471[08:43:21] <S3> te mpg is pretty awful
on it
L472[08:43:30] <Arcanitor> not if the bus
is full
L473[08:43:53] <S3> about $500
L474[08:44:17] <Arcanitor> if it is at
full passenger load it probably gets about the equivalent milage of
the number of 20MPG cars required to carry that many people
L475[08:44:17] <S3> it's about 2.50 here
atm / gal
L476[08:44:45] <S3> Arcanitor: know what I
don't understand?
L477[08:44:52] <Arcanitor> also you will
get better milage by filling up the tank only as much as you need
to reach your destination
L478[08:44:57] <S3> it costs like $40 to
take the bus down to portland and maybe halfway back
L479[08:45:03] <S3> that's a 2 hour trip
or so
L480[08:45:13] <S3> the company claims its
cheaper to drive a bus
L481[08:45:19] <Arcanitor> there is a
portland in maine?
L482[08:45:25] <S3> yes.
L483[08:45:28] <payonel> definitely
:)
L484[08:45:32] <S3> portland is our
biggest city
L485[08:45:51] <S3> population 66,937
(2016)
L486[08:46:01] <Arcanitor> it probably is
cheaper if you take into account how many cars it would take to
drive a busload of people to portland and back
L487[08:46:13] <Arcanitor> what is the
passenger capacity of the bus
L488[08:46:51] <S3> right it is cheaper in
that sense but since it is public transit
L489[08:47:44] <S3> just driving alone
myself in the jeep, well it's $16 even if I got 18MPG
L490[08:48:01] <S3> but it's casual
driving, so I'd get more near 30 mpg
L491[08:48:16] <S3> I'd be in 6th most of
the time and doing like 2400 RPM or less
L492[08:48:37] <Arcanitor> so we'll say it
costs you $9 to drive to portland and back, in gasoline
L493[08:48:57] <Arcanitor> if you take a
passenger with you (carpool) that cost decreases to $4.5/head
L494[08:49:20] <S3> which would be like
between 30 and $80 for the bus total
L495[08:49:27] <Arcanitor> a greyhound bus
seats 56 people including the driver
L496[08:49:49] <Arcanitor> you are at less
than $1/head in fuel to drive a fully loaded greyhound bus to
portland and back
L497[08:50:09] <Arcanitor> at least that's
the passenger capacity i got from the internets
L498[08:50:28] <S3> except if you're
paying the company for transit that's 56 * at least whatever the
bus ticket price is
L499[08:50:33] <S3> which is awfully
high
L500[08:50:35] <S3> they're making a
steal
L501[08:50:43] <Arcanitor> they have to
pay the driver
L502[08:50:49] <Arcanitor> what is the
price of skilled labor in maine
L503[08:50:51] <S3> yes but let's
see
L504[08:50:55] <S3> if it's $25 per ticket
one way
L505[08:51:14] <S3> that's $1400 per 2
hour trip on a full bus
L506[08:51:19] <S3> and the busses are
often fairly full
L507[08:51:32] <S3> I'd shave it to an
average of $1000
L508[08:51:38] <Arcanitor> imma guess the
driver earns around $25/hr?
L509[08:51:49] <S3> sounds pretty
close
L510[08:51:50] <Arcanitor> while he's
actually driving, that is
L511[08:51:58] <Arcanitor> so that's
$100/trip
L512[08:53:18] <Arcanitor> so we have
$900/trip profits, minus other company overhead (salaries of
accountants etc, insurance, maintenance, expenses due to government
regulations, etc.)
L513[08:53:51] <Arcanitor> also, I don't
think they're charging $25/ticket if it only costs you $16 to drive
yourself
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L515[08:54:37] <Arcanitor> either
greyhound buses have more amenities than I think they do, or most
people drive less efficient vehicles
L516[08:55:30] <S3> I dunno about companby
insurrance
L517[08:55:43] <S3> but the private
insurrance for my friends 1972 greyhound bus was SO CHEAP
L518[08:55:44] <Skye> In the UK public
transport is decent.
L519[08:55:47] <S3> like much cheaper than
a normal car
L520[08:55:53] <S3> funny thing is, it's
made of 100% steel
L521[08:55:59] <S3> and if you hit
something with it
L522[08:56:08] <S3> it just doesn't exist
anymore, so why low insurrance? lol
L523[08:56:30] <Skye> Like in London, I
get free bus travel
L524[08:56:33] <S3> Skye: ford motor
company ruined that
L525[08:57:03] <Arcanitor> there are a lot
more insurance costs for a company than just vehicle
insurance
L526[08:57:04] <S3> they forced theUS to
junk almost all of our trolleys and decommission the train
tracks
L527[08:57:20] <Arcanitor> there is
workers comp, for example
L528[08:57:36] <Arcanitor> there is
mandatory health insurance, which I believe the employer pays a
part of
L529[08:57:55] <S3> heh
L530[08:58:01] <ben_mkiv> anyone knows if
OC cables use some special kind of renderer/itemmodel?
L531[08:58:07] <S3> but I'm suyre they get
a plan for all of their busses
L532[08:58:10] <Arcanitor> they'll want
some kind of insurance in case someone gets hit by a bus and sues
them
L533[08:58:11] <S3> not for them
individually
L534[08:58:14] <S3> they probably have 30
busses
L535[08:58:19] <S3> that run every
dazy
L536[08:58:21] <S3> day*
L537[08:58:34] <Arcanitor> does maine have
payroll taxes
L538[08:59:07] <S3> like, employee
tax?
L539[08:59:16] <S3> it's a very
complicated system
L540[08:59:19] <S3> it depends on what you
do, etc
L541[08:59:20] <Arcanitor> a payroll tax
is like an income tax
L542[08:59:30] <S3> oh so it's not
income
L543[08:59:32] <Arcanitor> except your
employer is the one who technically pays it
L544[08:59:39] <Arcanitor> i'm not sure
exactly how it works
L545[08:59:40] <S3> I don't think we
do
L546[08:59:44] <S3> but I am not sure
either
L547[09:00:00] <S3> I know that companies
pay their taxes every year
L548[09:00:04] <S3> but I never
asked
L549[09:00:23] <S3> I need to run to the
bank and deposit some large checks that unfortunately I need to pay
back..
L550[09:00:25] <S3> :(
L551[09:00:30] <Arcanitor> ok
L552[09:00:34] <Arcanitor> see you
later
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L555[09:10:07] <MGR> $ME:
"Ok, can I get you to describe the button for me please? Like
are there any markings on it? Maybe a circle with a line coming out
of the top?" $CU: "Uh, it says 'Intel core i7
inside'" --- Quote 3/3
<MGR> $ME:
"Ok, can I get you to describe the button for me please? Like
are there any markings on it? Maybe a circle with a line coming out
of the top?" $CU: "Uh, it says 'Intel core i7
inside'" --- Quote 3/3L556[09:10:58] <Arcanitor> > THAT'S NO
BUTTON
L557[09:12:09] <Arcanitor> nobody has
noticed yet that my pocket has a pink butterfly key holder coming
out of it
L558[09:15:04] <MGR> THAT'S
NO BUTTON, IT'S A SPACE STATION!
<MGR> THAT'S
NO BUTTON, IT'S A SPACE STATION!L559[09:16:02]
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L564[09:16:13] <Michiyo> ._.
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L567[09:16:41] <Arcanitor> you seem to be
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L569[09:16:54] <Michiyo> ... why is it
using Michiyo :/
L570[09:16:58] *
payonel gives Michiyo some more underscores
L571[09:17:04] <MGR> Why is
what using Michiyo?
<MGR> Why is
what using Michiyo?L572[09:17:13] <Michiyo> my bouncer
L573[09:17:17] <Michiyo> it should be
using Mimiru
L574[09:17:30] <MGR>
Ah
<MGR>
AhL575[09:18:03] ⇦
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L576[09:18:14] <MGR> I
pictured you wrestling with yourself, like Dwight Schrute from that
one scene in The Office (US)
<MGR> I
pictured you wrestling with yourself, like Dwight Schrute from that
one scene in The Office (US)L577[09:18:33] *
Michiyo wiats
L578[09:18:35] *
Michiyo waits too
L579[09:18:59] <Arcanitor> what if instead
of fighting with your clone you team up with them
L580[09:19:13] <MGR> It
wasnt't a clone
<MGR> It
wasnt't a cloneL581[09:19:32] <MGR> Dwight
literally punched himself multiple times to prove if he could beat
himself in a fight
<MGR> Dwight
literally punched himself multiple times to prove if he could beat
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L584[09:20:15] <MGR>
Hooray!
<MGR>
Hooray!L585[09:20:21] <Michiyo> yay.
L586[09:20:53] <Arcanitor> is that
ipv6
L587[09:26:02] <AmandaC> .
L588[09:26:32] <Michiyo> Arcanitor,
"that"?
L589[09:26:51] <Michiyo> if you mean
Mimiru's host, then yes.
L590[09:33:11] <Arcanitor> yes
L591[09:33:18] <Arcanitor> nice
L592[09:38:20] <Kodos> Vexatos, if you
talk to asie ever, tell them that I've grouped their IRC nick so no
one else takes it.
L593[09:40:53] <Arcanitor> I assume you
are going to maintain the grouping
L594[09:41:07] <Arcanitor> they expire
after 1mo inactivity, even if the account it is grouped to is
active
L595[09:41:11] <Kodos> Yep
L596[09:43:04] <Gavle> Hello
everyone
L597[09:43:11] <Gavle> I have a question
once more
L598[09:43:28] <Gavle> Say I have two
computers connected together by a wireless network card, with no
wires between them
L599[09:43:36] <Gavle> What is the speed
limit on network messages?
L600[09:44:01] <Gavle> Do wireless cards
act like they have a T(x) relay between them, or is there a
different limiter?
L601[09:44:09] <Michiyo> 30 speed.
L602[09:44:43] <Gavle> Does that mean 30
messages per second?
L603[09:44:53] <Michiyo> No
L604[09:44:59] <Michiyo> It means I'm
bullshitting you, and have no idea.
L605[09:45:16] <Gavle> Ok
L606[09:45:28] <Lizzy>
Gavle, i think it's about as instant as cables
<Lizzy>
Gavle, i think it's about as instant as cablesL607[09:45:31] <payonel> there is no extra
limit, it works the same as wired
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L609[09:46:06] <Gavle> payonel, but the
speed limit on wired is limited by the relay
L610[09:46:19] <Gavle> Depending on the
CPU and RAM inserted, you get different speeds.
L611[09:46:41] <Gavle> @Lizzy , I am
talking about bandwidth, not latency, but thank you for the
information. Good to know.
L612[09:47:03] <Lizzy> you
said speed limit, not size limit....
<Lizzy> you
said speed limit, not size limit....L613[09:47:21] <Gavle> True, I may have
given the wrong impression.
L614[09:47:30] <Gavle> For clarification,
I'm talking about maximum bandwidth.
L615[09:47:52] <Gavle> With a fully
upgraded relay, steady-state speed is around 1 million bits per
second. I was wondering how wireless compares
L616[09:48:17] <Gavle> s/steady-state
speed/steady-state bandwidth
L617[09:48:17] <MichiBot> <Gavle>
With a fully upgraded relay, steady-state bandwidth is around 1
million bits per second. I was wondering how wireless
compares
L618[09:48:24] <Lizzy> same
as direct cables, one would assume
<Lizzy> same
as direct cables, one would assumeL619[09:49:06] <Gavle> I don't have test
data with direct cables, due to component sharing complications.
Does that mean the speed is simply as fast as the CPU can call
modem.send()?
L620[09:49:19] <Gavle> bandwidth*
L621[09:50:27] <Lizzy>
probably
<Lizzy>
probablyL622[09:50:55] <Gavle> Thank you for that
information @Lizzy .
L623[09:51:41] <Gavle> Interesting, as it
means that wireless is faster than wired, discounting
overhead.
L624[09:52:29] <AmandaC> ben_mkiv: I'd
have expected a "tried to call nil value" error to happen
if it wasn't a valid function on the widget
L625[09:54:13] <AmandaC> ben_mkiv: nvm, I
never checked event.log
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L635[10:20:49] <MGR>
%quote
<MGR>
%quoteL636[10:20:49] <MichiBot> Quote #92:
<Vexatos>
ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
L637[10:21:01] <ben_mkiv> also had
translate in the sidebar of my wiki, but fixed that now
L638[10:21:15] <Arcanitor> ~w
OpenSecurity
L639[10:21:15] <ocdoc> Predicted http://ocd.cil.li/
L640[10:21:16] <Arcanitor> pls work
L641[10:21:38] <Michiyo> No, that doesn't
work :P
L642[10:21:40] <Michiyo> what's up?
L643[10:21:55] <Arcanitor> just trying to
find documentations
L644[10:22:03] <Michiyo> semi outdated
docs are here https://github.com/PC-Logix/OpenSecurity/wiki
L645[10:22:18] <Arcanitor> thx
L646[10:22:19] <Michiyo> those are mainly
1.7... some stuff changed for 1.9/1.10
L647[10:22:37] <Michiyo> one day I'll
update it.. but today is not that day.
L648[10:23:13] <Arcanitor> well, looks
like i'm in luck
L649[10:23:18] *
Arcanitor is playing 1.7.10
L650[10:23:53] <Arcanitor> by the way,
what data is typically stored on an RFID or magstrip card
L651[10:24:00] <Michiyo> Yes.
L652[10:24:05] <Michiyo> :P
L653[10:24:25] <Arcanitor> I assume that
you would use it as half of 2FA, for optimal security.
L654[10:24:32] <Michiyo> anything you can
fit into 64 or 128 chars respectively
L655[10:24:41] <Michiyo> superminor2,
wrote a door controller program for mag cards
L656[10:24:48] <Michiyo> i've seen RFIDs
used for the same..
L657[10:24:58] <Arcanitor> but you would
store some kind of auth token on it would you not
L658[10:25:03] <Michiyo> you can tag
players/mobs with rfids by right clicking on them to
"embed" data on them
L659[10:25:15] <Michiyo> you store
whatever you want on it..
L660[10:25:20] <Michiyo> it's just raw
data.
L661[10:26:37] <Arcanitor> I understand
that...
L662[10:27:16] <Michiyo> I'm not here to
tell you how to implement your system, I just provide you the tools
to do it. I'm hardly the person to ask anyway.
L663[10:27:37] <Arcanitor> thanks :)
L664[10:27:39] <MGR> What
are you trying to do?
<MGR> What
are you trying to do?L665[10:28:03] <Arcanitor> implement
secure 2FA using open-security keycards
L666[10:28:14] <Arcanitor> magstrip or
otherwise
L667[10:30:00] <MGR> You
can just write the necessary data to the card, as long as it is
less than 128 bytes
<MGR> You
can just write the necessary data to the card, as long as it is
less than 128 bytesL668[10:30:11] <MGR> If I
recall correctly, a character in a string is 1 byte
<MGR> If I
recall correctly, a character in a string is 1 byteL669[10:31:12] <Gavle> %+10 Corded
L670[10:31:13] <MichiBot> Gavle: Corded
now has 22.0000000000001 points
L671[10:31:29] <Gavle> I did not know you
can give fractional points.
L672[10:31:29] <Michiyo> use keypad and
card reader, encrypt key on card with pin via keypad, profit.
:P
L673[10:31:35] <Michiyo> yes
L674[10:31:45] <Michiyo>
%+0.00000000000000000000000000000001 Gavle
L675[10:31:46] <MichiBot> Michiyo: Gavle
now has 1E-32 points
L676[10:31:49] <Michiyo> lol.
L677[10:32:15] <Gavle> I am very
marginally positively regarded.
L678[10:32:31] <Michiyo> %+1 Gavle
L679[10:32:31] <MichiBot> Michiyo: Gavle
now has 1.00000000000000000000000000000001 points
L680[10:33:00] <Michiyo> I still need to
try to get Gavle++ working..
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L682[10:33:20] <Arcanitor> why not store a
hash on the card of the pin
L683[10:33:24] <Arcanitor> rather than
encrypting it
L684[10:34:40] *
Gavle is incremented by one.
L685[10:39:15] <Arcanitor> michiyo:
/S+\+\+/ ?
L686[10:39:28] <Arcanitor> oops
L687[10:39:40] <Arcanitor>
./\S+\+\+/
L688[10:40:40] <Arcanitor> might want to
tack on an '$'
L689[10:40:56] <Michiyo> Sure, but that's
one more thing I have to have not implementing AbstractListener,
and just going on raw ListnerAdapter, which I want to avoid.
L690[10:42:14] <Arcanitor> I don't know
what any of that means
L691[10:48:14] <Michiyo> classes in my
bot, AbstractListener is a convenience class that I have for
interop between IRC/Discord and the bot
L692[10:48:44] <Michiyo> it also lets me
interact with the command class easier.. though I can't use ANY of
the command class without using the prefix system, which is what %+
does.
L693[10:49:45] <payonel> anyone know who
kevin macleod is? does music, ksp uses his stuff
L694[10:50:06] <Michiyo> which means I
have to implement ignoring and stuff like that on top of it,
instead of using the built in stuff..
L695[10:50:25] <payonel> in a particular
jim sterling episode, he talks about a game "robert mensah's
sins of the father" -- a game jimsterling didn't like
L696[10:50:46] <payonel> but the music is
a piece by macleod, and i cannot find the track. listen to it in
the background: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFQA7fYvmZM&t=1m35s
L697[10:50:48] <MichiBot> ROBERT
MENSAH'S SINS OF THE FATHER - Your New Worst Game Of 2016 |
length: 13m 46s | Likes: 3,213 Dislikes: 28 Views: 99,376 | by Jim Sterling
| Published On 12/3/2016
L698[10:57:36] <Arcanitor> payonel: if you
visit macleods youtube page
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L700[10:57:47] <Arcanitor> the most recent
set of releases have names that would fit a horror game
L701[11:00:49] <Arcanitor> ooo
L702[11:01:04] <Arcanitor> macleod has
direct .mp3 downloads on his website
L703[11:03:21] <Arcanitor> time to play
the KSP soundtrack on loop in MC with openFM
L704[11:08:41] <Gavle> Is there any
further documentation on the transforms API?
L705[11:09:07] <Gavle> I see http://ocdoc.cil.li/api:transforms , but that has
almost no information on what each function does.
L706[11:09:07] <payonel> nope, i didn't
think anyone would use it
L707[11:09:24] <payonel> i have a meeting
for the next 15 minutes
L708[11:09:37] <payonel> afterwards, i'd
be happy to explain any of the methods if you are interested
L709[11:09:41] <Gavle> Well, I don't know
if I would use it, but it'd be nice to know what it does.
L710[11:09:57] <Gavle> I'll PM you in 30
if you don't message me before then :)
L711[11:23:16] <MGR> I
think the technicians at my mechanic are blind
<MGR> I
think the technicians at my mechanic are blindL712[11:23:23] <MGR>
"You're taillight bulb is burned out"
<MGR>
"You're taillight bulb is burned out"L713[11:23:46] <MGR> Me:
*Walks to back of car and tests directionals + break* "Uh,
no"
<MGR> Me:
*Walks to back of car and tests directionals + break* "Uh,
no"L714[11:24:22] <MGR> But, I
still need ~$600 of maintenance
<MGR> But, I
still need ~$600 of maintenanceL715[11:24:47] <MGR> At
least I'm handy enough to save money by doing some of these things
myself
<MGR> At
least I'm handy enough to save money by doing some of these things
myselfL716[11:30:17] *
Michiyo sighs
L717[11:30:25] *
Michiyo stabs self
L718[11:30:40] <Inari> %stab Michiyo
L719[11:30:40] *
MichiBot stabs Michiyo with rainbow shimapan doing [2] damage,
rainbow shimapan rides off into the sunset on a horse with no
name.
L720[11:32:18] <MGR>
Why?
<MGR>
Why?L721[11:33:11] <Michiyo> This seems to do
what I want.. (.+?)(\+\+)
L722[11:33:17] <Michiyo> but I KNOW it's
going to break when I try to use it.
L723[11:33:18] <Michiyo> lol
L724[11:33:20] <MGR>
MajGenRelativity++
<MGR>
MajGenRelativity++L725[11:33:40] <MGR> It
didn't work
<MGR> It
didn't workL726[11:34:04] <Michiyo> ...
L727[11:34:07] <Michiyo> ofc it
doesn't
L728[11:34:13] <Michiyo> I've just started
coding it.
L729[11:34:21] <MGR>
Ahhhh
<MGR>
AhhhhL730[11:34:37] <MGR> I
thought you had finished it, and were testing
<MGR> I
thought you had finished it, and were testingL731[11:37:21]
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L734[11:45:55] <payonel> Gavle: o/ ok i'm
back
L735[11:46:12] <Gavle> ...
L736[11:46:30] <Gavle> Ok, can you give me
a brief overview of what each transforms API function does
please?
L737[11:46:37] <payonel> transforms work
on tables, the methods often have first,last params which work a
lot like string methods
L738[11:47:10] <payonel> ok first, let tx
= tranforms, less typing
L739[11:47:25] <Gavle> Ok.
L740[11:47:28] <payonel> tx also is meant
to work with sequences
L741[11:47:41] <payonel> i.e. array tables
that count from 1 to n
L742[11:48:07] <S3> OH NO. Not sequences,
no no no. ANYTHING BUT TAYLOR SERIES
L743[11:48:07] <payonel> tx.sub works like
string.sub, returns a sequence from first to last
L744[11:48:11] <Gavle> Yes, they are also
called lists, correct?
L745[11:48:17] <payonel> sure, list
L746[11:48:17] <S3> I thought I was done
with calc 2
L747[11:48:32] <Gavle> Continue
please
L748[11:48:40] <payonel> and in all cases,
first and last can be negative values, just like the string.sub
method
L749[11:49:18] *
Gavle nods
L750[11:50:05] <payonel> tx.first is a
predicate based search, tx.first(tbl, predicate, first, last)
L751[11:50:18] <payonel> it returns the
first element that satisfies the predicate, searching from first to
last
L752[11:50:54] <payonel> derp
L753[11:51:14] <payonel> sec
L754[11:51:22] <S3> payonel: yay
functional friendly apis
L755[11:51:45] <Gavle> Predicate means a
regular expression or keyword, correct?
L756[11:52:15] <payonel> let me correct
though, tx.first returns the index, not the element
L757[11:52:50] *
Gavle nods
L758[11:53:25] <payonel> a predicate is a
function (generally) or a condition that is true or false based on
input
L759[11:53:49] <payonel> the tx lib uses
predicates a lot
L760[11:54:06] <Gavle> Please elaborate a
little more.
L761[11:54:12] <payonel> tx.first can also
be given a sub table to search for where that sub table exists in a
parent table
L762[11:54:15] <Vexatos> example: $({1, 2,
3}).find(x -> x > 2) will return the number 3
L763[11:54:18] <Vexatos> bwahahaha
L764[11:54:24] <Vexatos> well-placed
selene advertisement
L765[11:54:25] <payonel> yep ^
L766[11:54:38] <Vexatos> wait I didn't
even need the parentheses
L767[11:54:47] <payonel> for tx, that
would be tx.first({1, 2, 3}, function(x) return x > 2 end)
L768[11:54:51] <S3> Vexatos: just need
that pattern matching!
L769[11:54:56] <Vexatos> S3, glhf
L770[11:54:59] <S3> rofl
L771[11:55:12] <Vexatos> I already have
conditional functions
L772[11:55:14] <Vexatos> good enough
L773[11:55:16] <Gavle> I see. That makes
more sense now.
L774[11:55:28] <Gavle> Please
continue.
L775[11:55:32] <payonel> tx.first({1, 2,
3}, function(x) return x > 2 end) will likewise return 3
L776[11:55:41] <payonel> 3 as the index
though, not the element value
L777[11:55:48] <payonel> tx.first({1, 2,
300}, function(x) return x > 2 end) will also returns 3
L778[11:56:18] <Gavle> Yes, it returns the
index of the first element that causes the provided condition to
return true.
L779[11:56:38] <payonel> tx.first also
works on tables as predicates...like: tx.first({1, 2, 3, 3, 5}, {3,
3}) returns 3, 4
L780[11:57:02] <Vexatos> %sel local g =
$(2, 4, 6, 10); return switch(g, (n! #n > 5 ->
"Hello"), (n! #n > 3 -> "World"), (n! #n
> 1 -> "Banana"))
L781[11:57:02] <MichiBot> World
L782[11:57:05] <Vexatos> good enough,
S3
L783[11:57:13] <Vexatos> >_>
L784[11:57:29] <AmandaC> %choose two or
three
L785[11:57:30] <MichiBot> AmandaC:
three
L786[11:57:32] <AmandaC> hrm
L787[11:57:50] <AmandaC> nah, using two OG
widgets for a generic button is enough
L788[11:59:03] <Vexatos> brb adding a new
function to selene
L789[11:59:05] <Vexatos> thanks
payonel
L790[12:02:24] <Vexatos> hm what should I
call it
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L792[12:05:41] <S3> AmandaC: OG?
L793[12:06:02] <S3> Vexatos: don't call it
_
L794[12:06:09] <Vexatos> ,-,
L795[12:06:22] <Vexatos> a function that
returns the index of the first element that matches the
predicate
L796[12:06:29] <Vexatos> basically what
payonel calls first
L797[12:06:35] <Vexatos> it's called
indexWhere in scala :I
L798[12:07:18] <AmandaC> S3: OpenGlasses.
Specifically, ben_mkiv's fork
L799[12:07:20] <S3> Vexatos: yes it's in
many functional languages
L800[12:07:22] <S3> and also is in
Perl
L801[12:07:26] <S3> first is very
useful
L802[12:07:31] <AmandaC> S3: I've ended up
coding a bit of a toolkit for it.
L803[12:07:34] <Vexatos> I am talking
about the name
L804[12:07:41] <S3> AmandaC: oh that
works!? I have never used it and always wondered what it's
like
L805[12:08:17] <Vexatos> hm
L806[12:08:28] <Vexatos> maybe I should
just make find() return the index as a second parameter?
L807[12:08:29] <Vexatos> nah
L808[12:08:34] <S3> AmandaC: using the
unshaded white and black void blocks or whatever they are from some
mod I created a VR room with the intension of using OG
L809[12:08:35] <Vexatos> hm
L810[12:08:37] <Vexatos> I mean, I
could
L811[12:08:41] <S3> using a bunch of
player sensors
L812[12:09:07] <payonel> Gavle: ok
continuing, tx.find is basically useless, it is tx.first with a
tiny difference that i dont care for anymore and now i remember and
i'll remove it soon
L813[12:09:18] <payonel> in fact i might
drop tx.first and just call it tx.find
L814[12:09:38] <Gavle> ...
L815[12:09:40] <Vexatos> payonel,
confusing: find in most languages returns the matching value, not
the index
L816[12:09:40] <Gavle> Ok.
L817[12:10:47] <payonel> %lua return
string.find("oh really?", "real")
L818[12:10:47] <MichiBot> 4, 7
L819[12:10:51] <payonel> Vexatos: ^
L820[12:10:57] <Vexatos> except for
lua
L821[12:10:59] <Vexatos> lua doesn't
count
L822[12:11:09] <payonel> sure, but this is
a lib for lua :
L823[12:11:10] <payonel> :)
L824[12:11:21] <payonel> else, i
DEFINITELY would not have used 1-based indexes for the api as
well
L825[12:12:00] <S3> Vexatos: oh man
L826[12:12:11] <S3> you could change
indexing of tables to be 0 indexed!
L827[12:12:11] <S3> :D
L828[12:12:17] <S3> that would be
evil
L829[12:12:23] <Vexatos> hm
L830[12:12:25] <Vexatos> so
L831[12:12:29] <S3> no don't do it!
L832[12:12:39] <S3> it would cause huge
problems
L833[12:12:39] <S3> :D
L834[12:12:43] <Vexatos> option 1: Make
find simply return the index as the second parameter if the table
is a list or stringlist
L835[12:12:54] <Vexatos> option 2: add a
new method and decide on the name
L836[12:13:33] <S3> so Vexatos
L837[12:14:08] <Vexatos> ?
L838[12:14:15] <S3> if you have lua
function foo(x) return x, x+5 end
L839[12:15:06] <S3> do you feel that
you're escaping functional progra,mming aspects by not returning
{x, x+5} instead?
L840[12:15:21] <payonel> tx.partition is
like tx.sub -- but with more power. tx.partition returns MULTIPLE
sub tables, based on rules
L841[12:15:30] <Vexatos> Lua isn't a
functional language :P
L842[12:15:36] <S3> I know it's not
L843[12:15:44] <S3> but Selene is
functional friendly
L844[12:15:50] <Vexatos> julia has tuples
but it can implicitly wrap and unwrap them
L845[12:16:03] <Vexatos> so you can return
a, b in julia and it returns (a, b)
L846[12:16:30] <S3> well in the case of
return 1, 2 in lua you can do
L847[12:16:38] <S3> oh nvm
L848[12:16:55] <S3> I thought for some
reason you could aquire a table from it if you wanted
L849[12:17:16] <Vexatos> Also
L850[12:17:22] <Vexatos> if you have a
function foo() that returns such a tuple
L851[12:17:28] <Vexatos> you can do >x,
y = foo()
L852[12:17:35] <Vexatos> and it
automatically unwraps that tuple into its values
L853[12:17:52] <Vexatos> julia is nice
:I
L854[12:18:06] <Vexatos> anyways
L855[12:18:15] <Vexatos> what should I
call this function
L856[12:18:22] <S3> I like first
L857[12:18:34] <S3> it's what it's called
in Perl and other languages often anyways
L858[12:18:47] <Vexatos> does first in
perl return the index, not the value?
L859[12:19:44] <S3> first returns the
value in Perl
L860[12:19:52] <S3> but there's no reason
why you couldn't choose to return the index
L861[12:19:56] <S3> example
L862[12:20:20] <Vexatos> now to add slice
and splice
L863[12:20:23] <S3> my $plugin = first {
$_->type = 'uiplugin' } @{ $self->_plugins }
L864[12:20:26] <Vexatos> those were also
missing
L865[12:20:30] <Vexatos> thanks S3
L866[12:20:37] <Vexatos> I almost forgot
how disgusting perl code is
L867[12:20:42] <S3> lol
L868[12:21:04] <S3> I think it's called
first in erlang
L869[12:21:25] <S3> first(list)
L870[12:21:25] <S3> Returns the first
element in list or nil if list is empty
L871[12:21:27] <S3> ^ Elixir
L872[12:22:01] <Vexatos> those are all the
values
L873[12:22:04] <Vexatos> not the
index
L874[12:22:05] <S3> Reference: https://hexdocs.pm/elixir/List.html
L875[12:22:27] <Vexatos> for the value I
already have $():find
L876[12:22:53] <S3> you could return a
list that provides both the index and the value
L877[12:22:59] <S3> if you really
wanted
L878[12:23:03] <S3> :D
L879[12:23:04] <Vexatos> you mean a
function >_>
L880[12:23:05] <S3> oh I see
L881[12:23:24] <Vexatos> My entire point
is that I could just make find return the value and the index
L882[12:23:32] <Vexatos> but that might
not be nice, I don't know
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L884[12:38:03] <Vexatos> wait a second I
already have slice
L885[12:38:19] <Vexatos> what the heck
>_>
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L887[12:47:21] <payonel> Gavle: it's a
start: http://ocdoc.cil.li/api:transforms
L888[12:47:25] <Michiyo> <@Michiyo>
Mimiru++
L889[12:47:25] <Michiyo> <MichiBot2>
Michiyo: Michiyo now has -9223372036854779992.9999999999999
points
L890[12:47:25] <MichiBot> Hello
Michiyo
L891[12:47:28] <Michiyo> ...
L892[12:47:31] <Michiyo> ok, that's gotta
go.
L893[12:47:34] <Inari> Good job
L894[12:47:51] <Michiyo> it does work,
btw.. lol
L895[12:47:51] <Inari> %Michiyo++
L896[12:47:52] <Gavle> The Hello Michiyo
thing?
L897[12:47:55] <Michiyo> Not here.
L898[12:48:01] <Michiyo> and no need for
"%"
L899[12:48:04] <Inari> :<
L900[12:48:06] <Gavle> Gavle++
L901[12:48:11] <Michiyo> not here yet..
._.
L902[12:48:17] <Gavle> @MGR
L903[12:48:19] <Inari>
Mimiru++
<Inari>
Mimiru++L904[12:48:24] <MGR>
Gavle++
<MGR>
Gavle++L905[12:48:36] <AmandaC> I think Michiyo
means the fact her score has int overflowed
L906[12:49:01] <CompanionCube>
Michyo--
L907[12:49:05] <CompanionCube>
Michyo++
L908[12:49:19] <AmandaC> ... she already
said it's not in this channel yet
L909[12:49:28] <CompanionCube> ah
L910[12:50:06] <Inari> It isn't on discord
either
L911[12:50:07] <Inari> :<
L912[12:50:33] <Inari> AmandaC: how can it
int overflow if its a float
L913[12:51:36] <Michiyo> ._. It's in the
development version of the bot, running in my IDE, not in this
channel
L914[12:51:42] <Michiyo> also... it's a
bigint, and signed.
L915[12:51:44] <Michiyo> so...
L916[12:51:57] <Inari> Why does it have
decimals :|
L917[12:52:08] <Michiyo> Because. It. Is.
A. Big.Int.
L918[12:52:16] <Inari> "int
L919[12:52:28] <Michiyo> they have
decimals
L920[12:52:35] <Vexatos> S3, wee https://github.com/Vexatos/Selene/commit/548c9e37b1cf9af4d4eed83eef9d0e8c03f8ac8c
L921[12:52:36] <Inari> Thats sily
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L923[12:52:47] <Vexatos> I called it index
now because that's what it is called in ruby and crystal and I
liked that
L924[12:52:51] <Forecaster>
you're sily!
<Forecaster>
you're sily!L925[12:52:55] <Michiyo>
java.math.BigInteger. Provides classes for performing
arbitrary-precision integer arithmetic ( BigInteger ) and
arbitrary-precision decimal arithmetic ( BigDecimal ).
L926[12:53:16] <Michiyo> Oh, right I used
BigDecimal
L927[12:53:19] <Michiyo> to annoy
people.
L928[12:53:19] <Gavle> So no more
overflows
L929[12:53:20] <Inari> :P
L930[12:53:28] <Michiyo> my bad.
L931[12:55:26] <Vexatos> payonel, selene
ahs that too now :⁾
L932[12:55:53] <MGR> %lua
uhm "selene ahs that too now"
<MGR> %lua
uhm "selene ahs that too now"L933[12:55:53] <MichiBot> esllelnnee
aahhss t hhahta tttotoo nnooww
L934[12:56:01] <Vexatos> almost
L935[12:57:13] <Vexatos> S3, clearly,
selene is the best language :⁾
L936[12:57:16] <Vexatos> After julia, of
course
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L940[12:59:43] <MGR> It's
coming
<MGR> It's
comingL941[12:59:45] <MGR>
Gavle++
<MGR>
Gavle++L942[12:59:50] <Vexatos> uh oh
L943[12:59:51] <MGR> DANG
IT
<MGR> DANG
ITL944[12:59:58] <Vexatos> %sel
_selene._VERSION
L945[13:00:12] <MGR>
MajGenRelativity++
<MGR>
MajGenRelativity++L946[13:00:17] <MichiBot> MGR: Gavle now
has 2.00000000000000000000000000000001 points
L947[13:00:18] <MichiBot> Selene
0.1.0.6
L948[13:00:19] <MichiBot> MGR:
MajGenRelativity now has 1024.0 points
L949[13:00:37] <MGR>
WHOO!
<MGR>
WHOO!L950[13:01:00] <Michiyo> Michiyo++
L951[13:01:00] <MichiBot> Michiyo: You can
not give yourself points.
L952[13:01:02] <Michiyo> :P
L953[13:01:11] <MGR>
Inari++
<MGR>
Inari++L954[13:01:12] <MichiBot> MGR: Neppy now
has 5866.0 points
L955[13:01:15] <Forecaster>
yourself++
<Forecaster>
yourself++L956[13:01:23] <MGR>
Waaaaat
<MGR>
WaaaaatL957[13:01:30] <Michiyo> nope, it makes
sure they are a member of the channel first.
L958[13:01:32] <Vexatos> %sel $(1, 2, 3,
4, 10, 12, 14):index(x -> x > 8)
L959[13:01:32] <MichiBot> 5
L960[13:01:34] <Vexatos>
weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
L961[13:01:39] <Forecaster>
damn, foiled again!
<Forecaster>
damn, foiled again!L962[13:01:53] <MGR> Huh,
so MichiBot does a /ns info on people
<MGR> Huh,
so MichiBot does a /ns info on peopleL963[13:02:03] <Michiyo> not quiet... but
yes.
L964[13:02:20] <Michiyo> most things are
tied to NS accounts though.
L965[13:02:24] <Vexatos> %sel $(1, 2, 3,
4, 10, 12, 14):splice(5,
"hi"):concat("|")
L966[13:02:24] <MichiBot>
1|2|3|4|hi|12|14
L967[13:02:29] <Michiyo> permissions,
ignores, points..
L968[13:02:31] <Vexatos>
yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay
L969[13:02:37] <Vexatos> code working
first try is scary
L970[13:02:56] <CompanionCube>
Izaya++
L971[13:02:57] <MichiBot> CompanionCube:
ShadowKatStudios now has 1 points
L972[13:03:53] <Michiyo> I'm considering
removing %+## now..
L973[13:04:11] <Michiyo> %points
L974[13:04:12] <MichiBot> Michiyo: Michiyo
has -9223372036854779430.9999999999999 points
L975[13:04:25] <Michiyo> I should also add
an admin command to reset points ¬_¬
L976[13:05:07] <Forecaster>
perhaps
<Forecaster>
perhapsL977[13:05:46] <MGR> Wow,
nobody likes Michiyo ?
<MGR> Wow,
nobody likes Michiyo ?L978[13:05:54] <MGR> She
has a lot of negative points
<MGR> She
has a lot of negative pointsL979[13:06:05] <Michiyo> Which means
figuring out how permissions work now... lmfao
L980[13:06:28] <Corded> *
<Forecaster> laughts maniacly
L981[13:06:39] <Forecaster>
dammit, ruined that with a typo
<Forecaster>
dammit, ruined that with a typoL982[13:06:57] <Michiyo> hmm.. how to do
permissions if my command doesn't use the command class.. lol
L983[13:07:16] <Forecaster>
register a command
<Forecaster>
register a commandL984[13:07:27] <Forecaster>
with the permission you want
<Forecaster>
with the permission you wantL985[13:07:31] <Forecaster>
run the try execute
<Forecaster>
run the try executeL986[13:07:40] <Michiyo> Yeah I see how to
do it that way
L987[13:07:42] <Forecaster>
if true do the command code as it is now, else exit
<Forecaster>
if true do the command code as it is now, else exitL988[13:07:54] <MGR>
Maniacal laugh
<MGR>
Maniacal laughL989[13:07:54] <Michiyo> but.. if I do
that then I need to rewrite the entire class... and lazy.
L990[13:07:56] <Forecaster>
or not tryExecute
<Forecaster>
or not tryExecuteL991[13:08:11] <Forecaster>
the "shouldExecute" pr whatever that returns a
boolean
<Forecaster>
the "shouldExecute" pr whatever that returns a
booleanL992[13:08:45] <Arcanitor> %help
L993[13:08:45] <MichiBot> Arcanitor:
Command list: http://michibot.pc-logix.com/help
L994[13:09:40] <Michiyo>
%whichprotocolisbestprotocol
L995[13:09:41] <MichiBot> The
"mindyourownbusinessprotocol"
L996[13:09:44] <Michiyo> ._.
L997[13:10:24] <MGR>
%ispayonelsemugoodyet
<MGR>
%ispayonelsemugoodyetL998[13:10:24] <MichiBot> no.
L999[13:10:33] <Forecaster>
In hindsight that makes no sense
<Forecaster>
In hindsight that makes no senseL1000[13:10:52] <Forecaster> Nor does that...
<Forecaster> Nor does that...L1001[13:11:06] <Michiyo> the 2nd one
makes perfect sense.
L1002[13:11:18] <Michiyo> the answer will
always be no.
L1003[13:11:22] <Michiyo> :P <3
payonel
L1004[13:12:33] <Michiyo> Hmm... a few of
the help topics are... not right
L1005[13:12:37] <Michiyo> well not
topics..
L1006[13:12:38] <Michiyo> strings
L1007[13:13:02] <Forecaster> %unignore Count authed
users
<Forecaster> %unignore Count authed
usersL1008[13:13:04] <Forecaster> huh
<Forecaster> huhL1009[13:13:07] <Forecaster> :P
<Forecaster> :PL1010[13:13:07] <Michiyo>
command_authcount.setHelpText("Makes the bot ignore a user
lol
L1011[13:13:17] <MGR>
"lol"
<MGR>
"lol"L1012[13:13:26] <Michiyo> the lol was
added by me...
L1013[13:14:16] <Michiyo> I'm fixing
them..
L1014[13:14:19] <MGR>
Ahhh
<MGR>
AhhhL1015[13:15:04] <Forecaster> .s/fixing/randomizing/
<Forecaster> .s/fixing/randomizing/L1016[13:15:27] <Vexatos>
%isseleneusefulyet
L1017[13:15:29] <Vexatos> pfft
L1018[13:16:10] <MGR>
.s/fixing/smashing random keys/
<MGR>
.s/fixing/smashing random keys/L1019[13:16:35] <Forecaster> a command beginning with
"is" that isn't registered should result in a
"No." reply no matter what it is :P
<Forecaster> a command beginning with
"is" that isn't registered should result in a
"No." reply no matter what it is :PL1020[13:16:48] <Michiyo> %addcommand
isseleneusefulyet No.
L1021[13:16:49] <MichiBot> Michiyo:
Command Added
L1022[13:17:06] <Michiyo> @Forecaster,
great idea, I await your addition. :p
L1023[13:17:22] <Michiyo>
%isseleneusefulyet
L1024[13:17:22] <MichiBot> No.
L1025[13:17:48] <MGR>
%addcommand Isanythingusefulyet No.
<MGR>
%addcommand Isanythingusefulyet No.L1026[13:18:02] <MGR>
?
<MGR>
?L1027[13:20:20] <Forecaster> I'd totally do that if I had
time
<Forecaster> I'd totally do that if I had
timeL1028[13:20:42] <Vexatos> I have
thyme!
L1029[13:20:50] <Vexatos> Does that
help?
L1030[13:21:02] <Vexatos> I can send you
some if you pay for the shipping
L1031[13:21:17] <Forecaster> I also do not have money
<Forecaster> I also do not have moneyL1032[13:37:10] <Forecaster> more specifically, my budget
for german thyme is nil
<Forecaster> more specifically, my budget
for german thyme is nilL1033[13:44:30]
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L1036[13:44:47] <Michiyo>
%resetpoints
L1037[13:45:22] <MichiBot> Michiyo:
points reset
L1038[13:45:35] <Michiyo> %points
L1039[13:45:35] <MichiBot> Michiyo:
Michiyo has 0 points
L1040[13:45:39] <Michiyo> \o/
L1041[13:47:20] <Skye> Michiyo,
nuuuu
L1042[13:47:26] <Skye> not the negative
points! D:
L1043[13:49:08] <MGR>
Nooooooooooooooooooooo
<MGR>
NoooooooooooooooooooooL1044[13:49:19] <Michiyo> Skye++
L1045[13:49:20] <MichiBot> Michiyo:
skyem123 now has -9223372036854779999 points
L1046[13:49:36] <Skye> yay
L1047[13:50:06] <Skye> Inari should
finish a Hyperdimension Neptunia game... :P
L1048[13:51:11] <Michiyo>
%isgamaxsemugoodyet
L1049[13:51:11] <MichiBot> yes.
L1050[13:53:59] <Inari> Skye: ?
L1051[13:54:20] <Skye> your user name is
Neppy, but you didn't finish a neptunia game... >_<
L1052[13:56:42] <Inari> Heh :P
L1053[13:57:03] <Inari> You mean nickserv
name
L1054[13:57:03] <Inari> :p
L1055[14:00:04] <Skye> Inari, yep
L1056[14:13:34] <Michiyo> Neo++
L1057[14:13:36] <MichiBot> Michiyo: Neo
now has 1 points
L1058[14:14:49] <Inari> Me+oo++
L1059[14:15:17] <Inari> Moo++
L1060[14:15:18] <Inari> :<
L1061[14:15:32] <Inari> So teasy
L1062[14:15:41]
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L1064[14:17:31] <Skye> Neppy++
L1065[14:17:35] <Skye> :<
L1066[14:18:01] <Michiyo> Neppy isn't a
member of the channel... Inari is...
L1067[14:18:12] *
Skye wants to call Inari Nep-Nep now...
L1068[14:18:47] <Inari> MichiBot++
L1069[14:18:49] <MichiBot> Inari:
Michibot now has 23.0000000000001 points
L1070[14:21:07] <Skye> Inari, can I call
you Nep-Nep? :D
L1071[14:21:16] <Inari> If you wish
L1072[14:21:26] <Skye> do you get the
joke
L1073[14:22:01] <CompanionCube> why does
that look like floating point weirdness
L1074[14:22:14] <Skye> CompanionCube,
it's a bigdecimal
L1075[14:22:16] <Skye> so uh
L1076[14:22:25] <Skye> it's deliberate to
mess with you
L1077[14:22:29] <CompanionCube> are big
integers not a thing
L1078[14:22:42] <Michiyo> They are, and I
picked decimal to be annoying.
L1079[14:22:55] <Michiyo> the great news
is though... with the new system you can't use them..
L1080[14:22:57] <Michiyo> so meh.
L1081[14:23:15] <Michiyo> anyone who had
a decimal before has them, and will keep them until reset...
L1082[14:23:19] <Michiyo> now
though
L1083[14:23:21] <Michiyo>
CompanionCube++
L1084[14:23:22] <MichiBot> Michiyo:
CompanionCube now has 98869496764401.0 points
L1085[14:23:24] <Michiyo> whole
numbers.
L1086[14:24:15] <Michiyo> before you
could %+0.0000000000001.. and now that's gone.
L1087[14:25:46] <Skye> when did you
change it to a big one
L1088[14:25:52] <Skye> was it after we
messed with overflows
L1089[14:26:13] <Arcanitor> how much
space does a UTF8 character take up
L1090[14:26:16] <Arcanitor> 2
bytes?
L1091[14:26:29] <Skye> Arcanitor, it
varies
L1092[14:26:35] <Skye> between 1 and
6?
L1093[14:27:35] <CompanionCube> Inari:
'Inari Sami (anarâškielâ) is a Sami language spoken by the Inari
Sami of Finland. It has approximately 300 speakers, the majority of
whom are middle-aged or older and live in the municipality of
Inari.'
L1094[14:27:52] <Inari> Skye: Not
really
L1095[14:28:13] *
Skye forces Inari to play Hyperdimension Neptunia
Re;Birth1
L1096[14:28:49] <CompanionCube> 'the
municipality of inari' lol
L1097[14:29:48] <Inari> Said the cube
"Inari"
L1098[14:30:43] <Arcanitor> Skye: that's
annoying
L1099[14:30:52] <Arcanitor> how do you
tell where one char begins and the next ends
L1100[14:30:57] <Arcanitor> when you read
from a file
L1101[14:31:05] <Skye> simple
L1102[14:31:06] <Inari> By using UTF
encoding
L1103[14:31:58] <CompanionCube>
Arcanitor: because that information's also present
L1104[14:32:45] <Arcanitor> ok
L1105[14:33:04] <Skye> Any byte starting
with a 0 bit or a 11 sequence is the start of a UTF-8 code point,
all others are continuation characters.
L1106[14:33:08] <Skye> from https://stackoverflow.com/questions/7298059/how-to-count-characters-in-a-unicode-string-in-c#7298149
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L1108[14:45:24] <Michiyo> Sangar++
L1109[14:45:25] <MichiBot> Michiyo:
Sangar now has 20011.0 points
L1110[15:03:09] <Inari> Sangar+=1
L1111[15:03:16] <Inari> Sangar+1
L1112[15:07:51] <Michiyo> "++"
that is all.
L1113[15:08:31] <Michiyo>
(.+?)(\\+\\+)
L1114[15:09:09] <payonel> payonel➕➕
L1115[15:10:51] <payonel> ＋+﹢
L1116[15:10:54] <Michiyo> ._.
L1117[15:10:58] <Inari> xD
L1118[15:10:59] <payonel> %flip ＋+﹢
L1119[15:10:59] <MichiBot> payonel:
(╯°□°）╯﹢+＋
L1120[15:11:10] <Inari> %flip
payonel++
L1121[15:11:11] <MichiBot> Inari:
(╯°□°）╯++lǝuoʎɐd
L1122[15:11:34] <Michiyo> I don't get
paid enough for this shit...
L1123[15:11:38] <Michiyo> lol
L1124[15:11:41] <payonel> haha :)
L1125[15:11:56] <Inari> You get
paid?
L1126[15:15:08] <Vexatos> payonel, you
seen the new selene stuff I totally didn't steal from
transform.lua? :⁾
L1127[15:15:35] <payonel> i read that you
mentioned you added stuff
L1128[15:15:47] <Vexatos> STUFF!
L1129[15:15:55] <Vexatos> %sel $(1, 2, 3,
4, 10, 12, 14):index(x -> x > 8)
L1130[15:15:56] <MichiBot> 5
L1131[15:16:00] <Vexatos>
stuuuuuuff
L1132[15:16:45] <Michiyo> Inari, no
:(
L1133[15:21:07] <AmandaC> Inari: that's
exactly why she doesn't get paid enough.
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L1135[15:23:48] <Michiyo> %w 72396
L1136[15:23:48] <MichiBot> Current
weather for Wynne, AR Current Temp: 81.9°F/27.7°C Feels Like:
81°F/27°C Current Humidity: 37% Wind: From the SSW 3.0 Mph/4.8 Km/h
Conditions: Clear
L1137[15:29:03] <payonel> %w 97201
L1138[15:29:03] <MichiBot> Current
weather for Portland, OR Current Temp: 51.8°F/11.0°C Feels Like:
51.8°F/11.0°C Current Humidity: 91% Wind: From the NNE 2.0 Mph/3.2
Km/h Conditions: Rain
L1139[15:30:12] <Michiyo> that sounds
much nicer...
L1140[15:30:12] <Michiyo> lol
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L1143[15:36:44] <AmandaC> "Feels
like 20C" according to GNOME
L1144[15:37:21] <ben_mkiv> gnome isn't
that sensitive
L1145[15:40:09] <AmandaC> %choose
monogatari or other
L1146[15:40:09] <MichiBot> AmandaC:
other
L1147[15:42:20] <Inari> I should test
Refactoring on MichiBot
L1148[15:43:16] <Michiyo> o_O
L1149[15:47:36] <Inari> Michiyo: What
:D
L1150[15:49:25] <Michiyo> Just wondering
what you need to refactor..
L1151[15:49:48] <Inari> Not sure
L1152[15:49:53] <Inari> I just need
something to practice on
L1153[15:49:53] <Inari> :3
L1154[15:49:54] <ben_mkiv> add wordpress
support
L1155[15:50:04] <MGR> I
got free car maintenance!
<MGR> I
got free car maintenance!L1156[15:50:20] <MGR>
Because the dealership messed up and gave me maintenance that I
already got
<MGR>
Because the dealership messed up and gave me maintenance that I
already gotL1157[15:50:26] <MGR>
And then I told them, and they didn't charge me
<MGR>
And then I told them, and they didn't charge meL1158[15:50:36] <MGR> So
$150 saved, but the maintenance still done ?
<MGR> So
$150 saved, but the maintenance still done ?L1159[15:50:58] <Inari> Michiyo: I could
add tests first of all!
L1160[15:51:47] <MGR>
MajGenRelativity++
<MGR>
MajGenRelativity++L1161[15:51:48] <MichiBot> MGR:
MajGenRelativity now has 1025.0 points
L1162[15:51:56] <MGR>
Hah!
<MGR>
Hah!L1163[15:52:00] <MGR> I
can hack the planet!
<MGR> I
can hack the planet!L1164[15:52:35] <AmandaC> %ignore
@MGR
L1165[15:52:43] <MGR>
Nooooo
<MGR>
NoooooL1166[15:52:55] <MGR> I
won't ++ myself
<MGR> I
won't ++ myselfL1167[15:53:05] <MGR>
Also, Discord has a new notification format
<MGR>
Also, Discord has a new notification formatL1168[15:53:07] <MGR> I
like it
<MGR> I
like itL1169[15:53:08] <Inari> zsh++
L1170[15:53:10] <MichiBot> Inari: zsh now
has 1.0 points
L1171[15:53:14] <Lizzy>
MajGenRelativity--
L1172[15:53:32] <Michiyo>
(.+?)(\\+\\+)
L1173[15:53:40] <Lizzy> ah
L1174[15:53:43] <Inari>
Natsumi++
<Inari>
Natsumi++L1175[15:53:44] <AmandaC> Addition
only
L1176[15:53:47] <Inari> :<
L1177[15:53:53] <MGR>
Inari++
<MGR>
Inari++L1178[15:53:54] <MichiBot> MGR: Neppy now
has 5867.0 points
L1179[15:54:04] <Michiyo> Natsumi is
discord.. not IRC..
L1180[15:54:10] <Lizzy> Lizzy++
L1181[15:54:10] <MichiBot> Lizzy: You can
not give yourself points.
L1182[15:54:16] <MGR>
Lizzy++
<MGR>
Lizzy++L1183[15:54:17] <MichiBot> MGR: Lizzy now
has 9223372036854770001 points
L1184[15:54:23] <Lizzy> screw you
MichiBot, i do what i want
L1185[15:54:28] <MGR>
That is a large number of points
<MGR>
That is a large number of pointsL1186[15:54:29] *
Lizzy gives herself points
L1187[15:54:33] <Lizzy> huh
L1188[16:00:36] <MGR>
Mongols wore silk armor to stop barbed arrowheads from doing much
damage
<MGR>
Mongols wore silk armor to stop barbed arrowheads from doing much
damageL1189[16:01:09]
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L1190[16:03:02] <payonel> lua needs a
bind function that can slice params
L1191[16:03:23] <payonel> %lua
slice=function(fp,n) return function(...) local args =
table.pack(...) return fp(table.unpack(args, 1, n)) end end
L1192[16:03:36] <payonel> ok, so for
example, tonumber's 2nd arg is for the base value
L1193[16:04:05] <payonel> but what if you
want to feed a stream of values to it, but .. you might be sending
it too many args...and the callback() is using a function argument
...
L1194[16:04:09] <payonel> e.g. ....
L1195[16:05:21] <payonel> %lua do_each =
function(tbl, callback) for i=1,#tbl do print(callback(tbl[i], i))
end end
L1196[16:05:32] <payonel> %lua
do_each({'a','b','c'}, string.upper)
L1197[16:05:32] <MichiBot> A | B |
C
L1198[16:05:41] <payonel> ok nice, but
what if i want to use tonumber
L1199[16:05:51] <payonel> %lua
do_each({'1','foobar','3'}, tonumber)
L1200[16:05:51] <MichiBot> main:1: bad
argument #2 to 'callback' (base out of range)
L1201[16:06:04] <payonel> base out of
range is the tonumber's 2nd arg
L1202[16:06:09] <payonel> %lua
do_each({'1','foobar','3'}, slice(tonumber, 1))
L1203[16:06:09] <MichiBot> 1 | nil |
3
L1204[16:06:17] <payonel> BAM, i just
want the first argument
L1205[16:06:47] <payonel> slice could
even be first,last smart, like string.* first,last args
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L1209[16:16:58] <ben_mkiv> whoever hosts
computronics wiki should get a more reliable hoster
L1210[16:17:17] <ben_mkiv> the page works
like once a week xD
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L1213[16:24:02] <Michiyo> ben_mkiv,
wiki.vexatos.com
L1214[16:24:37] <Michiyo> I host that
one.
L1215[16:25:06] <Vexatos> Which means it
is about as reliable as the %sel command :^)
L1216[16:25:23] <Michiyo> So, as long as
you don't fuck something up it works? :P
L1217[16:25:28] <Vexatos> yes
L1218[16:25:30] <Vexatos> exactly.
L1219[16:25:35] <Michiyo> <3 lol
L1220[16:27:21] <ben_mkiv> http://wiki.vex.tty.sh/wiki:computronics
L1221[16:27:32] <ben_mkiv> this wont work
for me, which is linked on github
L1222[16:27:40] <Vexatos> how about you
read up
L1223[16:28:35] <ben_mkiv> yea, just
saying so that michiyo knows that his is fine
L1224[16:28:40] <Michiyo>
ReadingComprehension++
L1225[16:28:43] <Michiyo> I don't host
the other one.
L1226[16:28:45] <Michiyo> never
have.
L1227[16:28:49] <Michiyo> I host the one
I linked.
L1228[16:28:52] <ben_mkiv> i know
L1229[16:28:59] <ben_mkiv> but you didnt
know which one i tested until i said
L1230[16:29:05] <Michiyo>
s/his/hers/
L1231[16:29:05] <MichiBot>
<ben_mkiv> yea, just saying so that michiyo knows that hers
is fine
L1232[16:29:08] <ben_mkiv> so now you
know that yours is fine
L1233[16:29:13] <Michiyo> No, I knew
exactly which you tested...
L1234[16:29:19] <Michiyo> cause I have
the one I host open now
L1235[16:29:22] <Michiyo> and it works
fine :P
L1236[16:29:46] <Michiyo> (I also get
notifications when my httpd is down, lots of them.. and they get
annoying, so I fix it, quickly)
L1237[16:30:00] <ben_mkiv> you just know
that it works for you :P
L1238[16:30:12] <ben_mkiv> anyways, we
discussed that out i guess xD
L1239[16:30:22] <Vexatos> It is very
unlikely that both are down at the same time, you know
L1240[16:30:28] <Vexatos> and we already
knew that the other one is down
L1241[16:30:34] <Vexatos> this isn't
quantum chemistry
L1242[16:30:55] <Michiyo> No, I know it
works for me, and ATLEAST 6 other hosts on the internet.. cause the
service I use hits it from multiple locations.
L1243[16:36:11] <ben_mkiv> is there ae2
support in 1.12.1 dev builds?
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L1250[17:06:42] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> hi Lizzy
:D
L1251[17:06:58] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> I didn't
know you were the head of the channel :D
L1252[17:11:57] <payonel> Gavle: http://ocdoc.cil.li/api:transforms
L1253[17:29:46] <Gavle> Thank you
payonel.
L1254[17:39:40] <ben_mkiv> yea, thanks
for every line of code @pay
L1255[17:40:07] <ben_mkiv> but the real
question is, will databases be fixed soon or later, and how about
AE2 support in 1.12.1 oc? :P
L1256[17:40:32] <ben_mkiv> ik it probably
wont be in release until AE2 goes out of alpha, but maybe in dev
builds?
L1257[17:40:39] <ben_mkiv> for AE2^
L1258[17:47:57] <Vexatos> There's no such
thing as dev builds anymore
L1259[17:48:05] <payonel> ben_mkiv: i'll
get to it
L1260[17:48:06] <Vexatos> We ditched the
release branch
L1261[17:50:47] <ben_mkiv> that means?
there will be made a new branch for 1.7.0 release and all new
patches come to master in github but no buildbot anymore?
L1262[17:51:07] <Vexatos> I just
said
L1263[17:51:12] <Vexatos> we ditched the
release branch
L1264[17:51:24] <Vexatos> There will NOT
be a branch for the 1.7.0 release
L1265[17:51:47] <Vexatos> there is only
one jenkins repo per Minecraft version now
L1266[17:53:12] <ben_mkiv> so what are
those, if not dev builds?
L1267[17:53:20] <Vexatos> normal
builds
L1268[17:53:26] <Vexatos> they're just
builds >_>
L1269[17:53:28] <ben_mkiv> but not for
RCs
L1270[17:53:42] <Vexatos> releases will
be taken directly from those builds
L1271[17:54:04] <Vexatos> I literally
downloaded the file from jenkins to upload the release to github
and curseforge
L1272[17:54:10] <ben_mkiv> yea, but as
long as they arent released, they are for testing, so they're dev
builds from my point of view xD
L1273[17:54:39] <Vexatos> You were saying
"it probably wont be in release until AE2 goes out of alpha,
but maybe in dev builds"
L1274[17:54:50] <Vexatos> it's not like
we would remove the code again right before a release
L1275[17:54:54] <Vexatos> then build a
release without it
L1276[17:54:57] <Vexatos> and then add it
back in
L1277[17:56:07] <ben_mkiv> ok, so
earliest date to get AE2 stuff back is when AE2 goes out of alpha
and someone of OC team enables the code again
L1278[17:56:21] <Vexatos> no
L1279[17:56:32] <Vexatos> earliest date
to get AE2 stuff back is whenever someone bothers working on
it
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L1285[18:03:54] <AshIndigo> have i been
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L1286[18:04:19] <Mimiru> no
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L1294[19:07:15] <Izaya> Michiyo: how do
you do monitoring?
L1295[19:09:41] <ben_mkiv|afk>
botnet
L1296[19:09:42] <ben_mkiv|afk> xD
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L1312[23:11:36] <payonel> anyone know how
to add a dependency to build.gradle?
L1313[23:11:46] <payonel> i tried and
failed :)
L1314[23:13:38] <gamax92> payonel: what
kind of dependency
L1315[23:13:44] <gamax92> maven? local
jar?
L1316[23:14:08] <payonel> i want to
implement some driver code for ic2-classic: https://addons-origin.cursecdn.com/files/2408/228/IC2Classic%20Version%201.2.1.5.1.jar
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L1318[23:31:22] *
payonel reads https://github.com/MinecraftForge/ForgeGradle/wiki/Dependencies
L1319[23:54:39] <benny-g4> maybe look at
other projects? :>
L1320[23:54:43] <benny-g4> https://github.com/ben-mkiv/OCGlasses/commit/979423d478ea31c415947dcf741623e0e97fbc55#diff-c197962302397baf3a4cc36463dce5ea
L1321[23:55:06] <benny-g4> thats a maven
dependency btw.
L1322[23:57:35] <Izaya> why G4, by the
way? It's not because of one of these is it? :3 https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/31/XPC7450.jpg