L1[00:06:05] <gamax92> but only by 256
bytes
L2[00:18:46] <gamax92> I see, forth fails to
compile a few high level words, but otherwise seems to be
working
L3[00:19:27] <gamax92> otherwise it would
display it's boot message instead of an error
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L5[00:53:43] <gamax92> %remindme 9h check
jump and test compile in original simulator
L6[00:53:43] <MichiBot> I'll remind you
about "check jump and test compile in original simulator"
at 10/17/2017 09:53:43 AM
L7[00:53:55] <gamax92> uhh.
L8[00:54:50] <gamax92> wtf are those
minutes, it's :12 not :54 right now
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L13[02:51:00] 
<Kodos> Oh,
neat, my brother's game has a Steam page now
<Kodos> Oh,
neat, my brother's game has a Steam page nowL14[03:06:53] <g> You can't say that and
not link it
L15[03:06:55] <g> Why the suspense :v
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L18[03:41:54] <g> ugh, I missed being able
to see my hands in front of my face
L19[03:42:02] <g> still no power at home
after the hurricane, but work has power!
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L21[04:11:38] <Inari> .
L22[04:14:27] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIRW_elc-rY ~
L23[04:14:27] <MichiBot> BIGBANG &
2NE1 - LOLLIPOP M/V | length: 3m 14s | Likes:
301,590 Dislikes: 11,791 Views: 73,830,061 | by YG
ENTERTAINMENT | Published On 15/5/2009
L24[04:21:02] <Inari> %tell Vexatos Oxford
comma, pls
L25[04:21:02] <MichiBot> Inari: Vexatos
will be notified of this message when next seen.
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L27[06:03:21] <MGR> %lua
uhm "Today is a good day"
<MGR> %lua
uhm "Today is a good day"L28[06:03:22] <MichiBot> oTddadyy i ss sa
ggogoodd dddadyy
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L30[06:59:58] <MGR>
"The customer wants to know if you can send her quote in .pdf
instead of windows." --- Quote 1/3
<MGR>
"The customer wants to know if you can send her quote in .pdf
instead of windows." --- Quote 1/3L31[07:15:30] <Izaya> tfw getting 50MB/s
over 10/100
L32[07:41:49] <MGR>
That.... shouldn't be possible
<MGR>
That.... shouldn't be possibleL33[07:48:06] <SAL9000> @MGR: That quote
ain't too bad, you can pretty safely interpolate that windows == M$
Office
L34[07:48:27] <MGR> Not
necessarily
<MGR> Not
necessarilyL35[07:49:10] <MGR> It
still shows that the person knows nothing about computers
<MGR> It
still shows that the person knows nothing about computersL36[07:49:38] <SAL9000> Yeah, but it's not
Daily WTF level like r/talesfromtechsupport usually is :p
L37[07:49:42] *
Izaya hmms
L38[07:49:43] <MGR> I
dunno
<MGR> I
dunnoL39[07:49:51] <Izaya> I need to tune my
filters...
L40[07:50:00] <MGR> If you
think Word/Excel/PowerPoint/etc. is "Microsoft" you're
pretty bad at this
<MGR> If you
think Word/Excel/PowerPoint/etc. is "Microsoft" you're
pretty bad at thisL41[07:50:08] <MGR> The
rest of the story showed the person knew nothing
<MGR> The
rest of the story showed the person knew nothingL42[07:50:29] <SAL9000> \o/
L43[07:50:38] <SAL9000> Izaya: what kind of
filters?
L44[07:50:46] <Izaya> /filter ones
L45[07:51:46] <SAL9000> ah
L46[07:52:06] <SAL9000> are you converting
<foo> to <foo>?
<foo> to <foo>?L47[07:52:17] <SAL9000> ...nvm, that'd be
/trigger, not /filter
L48[07:52:19] <Izaya> That's /trigger
:P
L49[08:15:21] <SAL9000> Wow. https://arcan-fe.com/about/
L50[08:16:15] <Izaya> oh yeah I saw
that
L51[08:16:17] <Izaya> it looks p.
cool
L52[08:16:36] <Izaya> need to try it out, I
think it supports X11 as well
L53[08:16:58] <SAL9000> looks like it
supports x11 as both a "parent" and a
"child"
L54[08:18:35] <SAL9000> Heh. It's already
in the AUR, complete with a Wayland bridge :P
L55[08:19:00] <Izaya> Oh that's p.
nice
L56[08:22:28] <MGR>
"Me: "Just go a bit farther down and you will hit
it." SL: Goes to the top of the screen" --- Quote
2/3
<MGR>
"Me: "Just go a bit farther down and you will hit
it." SL: Goes to the top of the screen" --- Quote
2/3L57[08:32:40] <MGR> Huh.
My ISP reduced the price of their fiber plan, but it's still too
expensive for me
<MGR> Huh.
My ISP reduced the price of their fiber plan, but it's still too
expensive for meL58[08:36:52] <Izaya> ~magic~ https://i.imgur.com/Q7nna6g.png
L59[08:37:48] <MGR>
%magic
<MGR>
%magicL60[08:37:48] <MichiBot> http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/magic.gif
L61[08:40:45] <Izaya> https://i.imgur.com/fvngG96.png louis rossman a
best
L62[08:41:16] <MGR>
Lol
<MGR>
LolL63[08:41:32] <MGR> Not
even I hate Apple that much
<MGR> Not
even I hate Apple that muchL64[08:53:17] <Michiyo> well, so far I've
had 4 1.11 downloads, and no one has yelled "it's broken fix
it"
L65[08:53:50] <MGR> Sounds
good
<MGR> Sounds
goodL66[08:58:38] <Michiyo> I would have tried
it last night, but I was stupid busy trying to wrap up the wiring
for this helmet
L67[08:58:56] <MGR> Your
Halo helmet?
<MGR> Your
Halo helmet?L68[08:59:25] <Michiyo> Not mine, but
yes
L69[08:59:39] <MGR>
Ah
<MGR>
AhL70[08:59:42] <Michiyo> I don't ACTUALLY
HAVE the helmet.. which makes this fun.. it's in Oregon, and I'm
not.
L71[08:59:47] <MGR>
Heh
<MGR>
HehL72[08:59:53] <LuMistry>
Greetings
<LuMistry>
GreetingsL73[08:59:56] ⇨
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L74[09:00:00] <MGR> When
are you moving to Oregon?
<MGR> When
are you moving to Oregon?L75[09:00:17] <Michiyo> so I get to wire
everything, include extra wire so that stuff can be routed, I'm
sending it connected via terminal blocks so stuff can be
disconnected, cut to length and then reconnected..
L76[09:00:17] <MGR> Hello
@LuMistry how are you?
<MGR> Hello
@LuMistry how are you?L77[09:00:20] <Michiyo> March
L78[09:00:20] <Michiyo> ish
L79[09:00:29] <LuMistry>
I'm well, thank you
<LuMistry>
I'm well, thank youL80[09:00:32] <LuMistry>
How are you?
<LuMistry>
How are you?L81[09:00:45] <MGR> Happy
to be leaving Arkansas?
<MGR> Happy
to be leaving Arkansas?L82[09:00:51] <Michiyo> hell. yes.
L83[09:00:53] <MGR> I'm
doing pretty good, thanks
<MGR> I'm
doing pretty good, thanksL84[09:01:13] <MGR> Idk,
that's pretty ambiguous
<MGR> Idk,
that's pretty ambiguousL85[09:06:35] ⇨
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L87[09:13:36] <Kodos>
Sorry, I was tired
<Kodos>
Sorry, I was tiredL88[09:19:13] <g> it's fine :P
L89[09:19:37] <g> Oh, that looks
interesting
L90[09:19:40] <g> kinda like broforce
L91[09:44:34] <MGR>
"I reconnect to the router, and the seven rogue devices have
magically connected again. Me: Did you change the router admin
password? Chris: No..." --- Quote 3/3
<MGR>
"I reconnect to the router, and the seven rogue devices have
magically connected again. Me: Did you change the router admin
password? Chris: No..." --- Quote 3/3L92[09:44:46] <MGR> Always
change the default admin password
<MGR> Always
change the default admin passwordL93[09:47:10] <Corded> * <MGR> is
reminded to update to 5th generation passwords
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L96[09:52:50] <logan2611>
wat
<logan2611>
watL97[09:53:09] <MGR>
@logan2611 What is the "wat" in reference to?
<MGR>
@logan2611 What is the "wat" in reference to?L98[09:53:17] <logan2611>
whats a 5th generation password
<logan2611>
whats a 5th generation passwordL99[09:53:40] <MGR> Oh,
it's an internal scheme I use to keep track of my passwords after I
started managing them
<MGR> Oh,
it's an internal scheme I use to keep track of my passwords after I
started managing themL100[09:53:44] <MichiBot> gamax92
REMINDER: check jump and test compile in original simulator
L101[09:54:00] <Michiyo> Oh right..
gamax92 the reason for ^ is this
L102[09:54:05] <Michiyo> %octime
L103[09:54:05] <MichiBot> Michiyo:
2017-Oct-17 14:54:05
L104[09:54:15] <Michiyo> Oh right.. I
updated it
L105[09:54:15] <MGR> 1st
generation is extremely old and no longer in use, 2nd is in use in
2 places and needs to be replaced, while 3-4 generation is still in
widespread use
<MGR> 1st
generation is extremely old and no longer in use, 2nd is in use in
2 places and needs to be replaced, while 3-4 generation is still in
widespread useL106[09:54:23] <Michiyo> lol... the clock
was 20 minutes slow..
L107[09:54:37] <gamax92> ntp cron
jab
L108[09:56:17] <Michiyo> yeah.. no idea
why it does that ._. the host isn't overloaded or anything
L109[09:56:18] *
Michiyo sighs
L110[09:58:04] <Michiyo> cron runs nightly
now.
L111[10:00:17] <gamax92> Hmm, X11 doesn't
have a clipboard. It just asks a window for contents and then
delivers it to another window
L112[10:00:42] <gamax92> If one closes the
window the "clipboard" is lost
L113[10:10:34] <AmandaC> most modern
desktop features are similarly bolted onto the X11 protocol like
that, gamax92
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L115[10:12:52] <AmandaC> Workspaces are
implemented by a propertly in a similarly-bolted-on protocol (WNCK,
IIRC)
L116[10:12:59] <AmandaC> property*
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L119[10:31:04] <AshIndigo> %choose update
luma or leave it be
L120[10:31:04] <MichiBot> AshIndigo: leave
it be
L121[10:32:28] <gamax92> %seen S3
L122[10:32:28] <MichiBot> S3 was last seen
1d 13h 7m 27s ago. Saying: 10 SOUND RND(255), RND(2) : GOTO
10
L123[10:38:02] <ben_mkiv> so anyone want
to host a 1.10.2/1.12.1 server for a week or so? :P
L124[10:38:22] <MGR> I can,
depending on the specifics
<MGR> I can,
depending on the specificsL125[10:38:29] <Forecaster>
what for?
<Forecaster>
what for?L126[10:38:48] <ben_mkiv> well, just needs
oc + my openglasses and maybe extrautils2/ae2
L127[10:39:09] <MGR> I can
do that
<MGR> I can
do thatL128[10:39:19] <MGR> Want
to PM me on Discord?
<MGR> Want
to PM me on Discord?L129[10:39:24] <ben_mkiv> sure
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L132[10:40:59] <ben_mkiv> anyone who wants
to play around with openglasses, is also welcome to join the party
:>
L133[10:41:09] <ben_mkiv> but basic lua
knowledge is recommended
L134[10:41:38] <gamax92> but that excludes
the majority of people who try to use CC and OC
L135[10:42:00] <ben_mkiv> yea, but
includes people like you who want new challenges :P
L136[10:43:04] <gamax92> right, so I
should actually go do those things I said I should go do
L137[10:43:09] <Forecaster>
it would require not being terribly busy
<Forecaster>
it would require not being terribly busyL138[10:43:15] <Vexatos> Inari, I am
confused
L139[10:43:27] <gamax92> but I'm not
actually terribly busy I'm just reading IRC
L140[10:43:49] <Forecaster>
I was refering to me
<Forecaster>
I was refering to meL141[10:44:01] <Inari> Vexatos:
"OpenComputers 1.7.0 has finally been released, for Minecraft
1.7.10, 1.8.9, 1.9.4, 1.10.2, 1.11.2, 1.12.1 and
1.12.2!"
L142[10:44:07] <Inari> should be ",
and 1.12.2"
L143[10:44:54] <Skye> Inari, both are
valid english
L144[10:45:46] <Inari> One implies you
have "1.7.10", "1.8.9", "1.9.4",
"1.10.2", "1.11.2", "1.12.1 and
1.12.2"
L145[10:45:57] <Inari> The other implies
clearly that 1.12.2 is its own element
L146[10:46:18] <MGR>
^
<MGR>
^L147[10:46:34] <Vexatos> Inari, the former
is my intention though
L148[10:46:36] <Vexatos> since both are
1.12
L149[10:46:50] <Vexatos> I grouped them
for that reason ._.
L150[10:47:02] <Inari> I suppose, makes no
sense to me xD
L151[10:47:05] <Vexatos> And I didn't want
two "and"s
L152[10:47:31] *
ben_mkiv would enjoy fixed databases over fixed
grammer
L153[10:47:34] <gamax92> Vexatos: but how
many people are using 1.12.1
L154[10:47:43] <gamax92> compared to
1.12.2
L155[10:47:49] <ben_mkiv> all?
L156[10:48:12] <gamax92> "all"
would imply that nobody is using 1.12.2
L157[10:50:38] <SubThread> i use
1.12.2
L158[10:50:53] <ben_mkiv> productive?
xD
L159[10:51:05] <gamax92> what
L160[10:51:12] <ben_mkiv> what
L161[10:51:16] <SubThread> what
L162[10:54:14] <gamax92> %lua
0xFFA-0xE7D
L163[10:54:14] <MichiBot> 381
L164[10:56:11] <MGR> So, I
want to replace the SSD in my laptop
<MGR> So, I
want to replace the SSD in my laptopL165[10:56:30] <MGR> It's
50/50 being plugged in vs battery life
<MGR> It's
50/50 being plugged in vs battery lifeL166[10:56:56] <MGR> I can
either get the WD Blue 3D which is $15 more, but is faster, or the
Crucial MX300 which is slower, but more energy efficient
<MGR> I can
either get the WD Blue 3D which is $15 more, but is faster, or the
Crucial MX300 which is slower, but more energy efficientL167[10:59:38] <MGR> Anyone
have advice on if it would be worth it to get the higher
performance but less energy efficient drive?
<MGR> Anyone
have advice on if it would be worth it to get the higher
performance but less energy efficient drive?L168[11:01:02] <Lizzy> your
ssd's power consumption is gonna be a lot less than your cpu/screen
power consumption
<Lizzy> your
ssd's power consumption is gonna be a lot less than your cpu/screen
power consumptionL169[11:01:15] <MGR> Good
point
<MGR> Good
pointL170[11:08:14]
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L173[11:28:04] <logan2611>
get WD
<logan2611>
get WDL174[11:29:18] <MGR>
@logan2611 Reason?
<MGR>
@logan2611 Reason?L175[11:30:11] <logan2611>
As mentioned, the power consumption is gonna be pretty low either
way, but also Cruicial is more budget oriented.
<logan2611>
As mentioned, the power consumption is gonna be pretty low either
way, but also Cruicial is more budget oriented.L176[11:30:32] <logan2611>
and WD is pretty damn good
<logan2611>
and WD is pretty damn goodL177[11:30:40] <MGR> Yeah,
the MX300 doesn't have quite as much performance
<MGR> Yeah,
the MX300 doesn't have quite as much performanceL178[11:30:59] <S3> gamax92: what's
up
L179[11:31:02] <S3> I heh
L180[11:31:10] <S3> I saw your query
L181[11:32:37] <gamax92> yeah
L182[11:33:56] <gamax92> S3: it's a big
forth, takes up 9KB, but it works and isn't as archaic as
figforth
L183[11:33:58] <S3> irccloud sees
everythin
L184[11:34:11] <S3> Which forth is
this?
L185[11:34:13] <S3> eforth?
L186[11:34:19] <gamax92> TaliForth
L187[11:34:31] <S3> Ooh. So you were able
to get it working on Thistle?
L188[11:34:52] <gamax92> yep
L189[11:34:59] <gamax92> you uhh, saw the
screenshot right?
L190[11:35:41] <S3> I will look. I've been
very busy with school and stuff.
L191[11:36:26] <S3> I found it
L192[11:36:49] <S3> gamax92: This is
really great news
L193[11:38:02] <gamax92> it's maybe got a
few issues, when the stack is empty and you use stuff like . (or 1
element and 2dup) it'll pull some garbage value
L194[11:38:13] <gamax92> and the initial
compile of a few words errors on boot
L195[11:38:41] <S3> gamax92: that happens
with color forth too I noticed
L196[11:38:51] <gamax92> dump command
spams the screen with values, but that was helpful in fixing the
cursor crash
L197[11:38:55] <S3> It should be an easy
fix though
L198[11:39:43] <S3> gamax92: yes dump
actually can take parameters
L199[11:39:57] <gamax92> S3: the entire
dictionary is chained together by branch-always instructions
L200[11:40:02] <S3> iirc the ammount you
want I believe ' WORDHERE X DUMP will dump X values usually
L201[11:40:14] <gamax92> o
L202[11:40:15] <S3> ok so it's probably a
DTC
L203[11:40:25] <S3> yeah lemme test that
claim above^
L204[11:40:30] <gamax92> STC?
L205[11:40:41] <S3> it could be an STC
too
L206[11:40:48] <gamax92> It says "A
Subroutine Threaded Code (STC) ANSI-like Forth for the
65c02"
L207[11:40:54] <S3> DTC is when you put
the jump code in the code word itself of the definition
L208[11:41:01] <S3> instead of an
address
L209[11:41:10] <S3> ok
L210[11:41:18] <S3> STC is actually pretty
nice
L211[11:41:29] <S3> it can be slower
though
L212[11:41:39] <S3> I bet it's quite fast
on Thistle regardless
L213[11:42:16] <gamax92> S3: but but, it
also claims, "Tali Forth aims to be, in rough order of
priority: " "Speedy. Tali Forth places speed over
size"
L214[11:42:23] <gamax92> also I forget the
speed of Thistle.
L215[11:42:42] <gamax92> =15000*3*20
L216[11:42:45] <gamax92> err
L217[11:42:51] <gamax92> %lua
15000*3*20
L218[11:42:51] <MichiBot> 900000
L219[11:42:58] <S3> YEah I doubt it'd be a
problem on a 6502
L220[11:42:58] <gamax92> S3: so under
1MHz
L221[11:43:04] <S3> subroutines are fairly
fast on a 6502
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L227[11:54:23] <gamax92> hmm, I need to
instruct gradle to grab this file and include it in a specific
location in the built jar
L228[11:55:04] <S3> whatchya doin
now
L229[11:57:22] <Vexatos> gamax92, like
https://github.com/johnrengelman/shadow ?
L231[12:06:00] <CompanionCube>
%oclogs
L232[12:06:00] <MichiBot> https://oclogs.pc-logix.com/
L233[12:09:25] <gamax92> Vexatos: uhh,
possibly.
L234[12:10:10] <Saphire> Hmm
L235[12:10:21] <Saphire> Gradle vs cmake
o..o
L236[12:10:39] <gamax92> I tried playing
with sourceSets.main.resources but that included everything in the
folder and also put it in the wrong location
L237[12:12:09] <gamax92> Vexatos: I'm not
sure that applies? seems to be more for combining dependencies into
one jar
L238[12:13:10] <AmandaC> Saphire: neither,
bazel -hides-
L239[12:14:11] <Saphire> What's
that?
L240[12:14:28] <gamax92> thyme
L241[12:14:42] <gamax92> no, shit that's
not basil
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L243[12:14:45] <Vexatos> gamax92, there is
a "from" thing in one of the tasks
L244[12:14:50] <Vexatos> where you can
move stuff
L245[12:15:17] <Vexatos> I think ._.
L246[12:15:32] <Vexatos> also gamax92 pls
do you not know what thyme is
L247[12:15:46] <Vexatos> D:
L248[12:15:50] <Vexatos> it's
taaasty
L249[12:15:58] <gamax92> no I was making a
spice joke but then I realized that bazel is not basil
L250[12:16:03] <AmandaC> Saphire:
bazel.build
L251[12:16:07] <gamax92> so now I just
look stupid
L252[12:16:11] <AmandaC> (that's a
link)
L253[12:16:33] <gamax92> Vexatos: also I
don't see this at all.
L254[12:16:56] <Vexatos> Hm
L255[12:17:21] <Vexatos> you can add a new
task yourself to do it
L256[12:17:58] <Saphire> https://bazel.build/
L257[12:18:02] <Saphire> Now that's a
link
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L259[12:19:38] <gamax92> Vexatos: :I
L260[12:20:05] <gamax92> rename apparently
doesn't work on paths.
L261[12:22:29] <Mimiru> well, if they were
remote files it's easy enough :P
L262[12:22:46] <gamax92> sadly they
aren't
L263[12:33:03] <S3> hey Skye
L264[12:33:04] <gamax92> I'll just keep
the old way for now
L265[12:33:08] <S3> I came to this
idea
L266[12:33:11] <Skye> hi
L267[12:33:59] <S3> Skye: what do you
think of the idea of incorporating serial IO as a basis, and then
for at least my idea of component access, build RDMA on top of
serial IO by using an internal memory mapped DMA controller?
L268[12:34:10] <S3> this way it's all just
accessible serial hardware under the hood
L269[12:34:26] <Skye> sounds insane but
amazingf
L270[12:34:29] <Skye> s/f//
L271[12:34:29] <MichiBot> <Skye>
sounds insane but amazing
L272[12:34:56] <S3> It would allow people
to create their own components networks the way they want
L273[12:35:05] <S3> without the overhead
of RDMA memory to memory systems
L274[12:35:23] <S3> but also allow for
very fast complex component to memory mapped IO RDMA controlled
serial systems
L275[12:36:36] <S3> My whole point of RDMA
is this, Skye, imagine you want to connect a redstone IO block to
your computer. you send a command / run a machine provided routine
to "connect" to the redstone IO device and map it
somewhere in memory, whever you want it
L276[12:36:47] <S3> to control / access
the redstone device, you just read your memory
L277[12:37:04] <S3> the RDMA controller
automatically transfers data between the component and your memory
mapped location
L278[12:37:07] <S3> hence DMA
L279[12:37:19] <S3> Skye: ^
L280[12:38:10] <Skye> neat
L281[12:38:27] <S3> of course if this is
built on serial hardware..
L282[12:38:37] <gamax92> S3: Fun
optimization trick, JSR+RTS can be replaced with a JMP
L283[12:38:41] <S3> then nothing stops you
from using one of the UARTs for your own use
L284[12:38:53] <gamax92> reusing the RTS
in the routine
L285[12:39:13] <S3> gamax92:
actually
L286[12:39:19] <S3> on my coco that is how
my hex editor works
L287[12:39:21] <S3> :D
L288[12:39:31] <S3> I have gotos all up to
the point where it's ready to return
L289[12:39:46] <S3> that way I don't have
to traverse multiple returns
L290[12:40:00] <S3> so basically
L291[12:40:09] <S3> I jump into the main
loop that reads a key into the keyboard
L292[12:40:28] <S3> it accepts that as a
command, and GOTOs the command and the command code itself does the
return
L293[12:40:35] <S3> it's not exactly that
but
L294[12:41:01] <S3> it reduced code size
and made my program a lot faster
L295[12:41:28] <gamax92> well I just used
it to save 4 bytes
L296[12:41:29] <S3> at that point you're
just kind of simulating a tail call
L297[12:41:32] <S3> :D
L298[12:41:58] <S3> Skye: so what about IO
rates?
L299[12:42:10] <Skye> no idea
L300[12:42:12] <gamax92> "29951 bytes
free"
L301[12:43:34] <S3> heh
L302[12:43:38] <S3> that's a lot of
space
L303[12:43:57] <S3> Skye: what do you
think about basic 3D graphics extensions?
L304[12:44:08] <Skye> try to do as much
client side
L305[12:44:28] <gamax92> S3: So, basic
takes up $0200-$2a46, but I had setup ctrl-c tables in $2900 and
beginning of usable memory at $2a00, which overlaps
L306[12:44:38] <gamax92> somehow did not
break horribly
L307[12:44:43] <S3> lol
L308[12:45:02] <gamax92> but, fixed that,
also removed the Cold/Warm and memory size prompts
L309[12:45:20] <S3> Skye: yeah that would
make sense
L310[12:45:33] <gamax92> I ended up just
moving the ctrl-c table into an unused part of zero page
L311[12:49:14] <Saphire> Cold/warm?
L312[12:49:19] <Saphire> gamax92: what's
that o.o
L313[12:49:23] <gamax92> Cold boot vs Warm
boot
L314[12:49:28] <Saphire> I know
L315[12:49:58] <gamax92> ... then why'd
you ask
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L317[13:14:00] <gamax92> lol I took out
the EEPROM to swap it out for a new one without turning it off,
it's just spamming 'ÿ'
L318[13:20:00] <Michiyo> damn it I forgot
to test OP on lunch...
L319[13:20:05] <Michiyo> %flip
L320[13:20:05] <MichiBot> Michiyo:
(╯°□°）╯┻━┻
L321[13:20:19] <gamax92> %flip
sandwich
L322[13:20:20] <MichiBot> gamax92:
(╯°□°）╯ɥɔıʍpuɐs
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L324[13:47:55] <Inari> https://gfycat.com/RigidIllEgret :o
L325[13:48:24] <gamax92> woah
L326[13:49:05] <AshIndigo> Glad he didnt
die
L327[13:49:44] <S3> Saphire: yeah Forth
usually fires up with COLD WARM and ENTER
L328[13:49:49] <S3> well not ENTER
L329[13:49:54] <S3> ENTER is usually
DOCOLON
L330[13:50:03] <S3> COLD, WARM, ABORT,
QUIT
L331[13:50:03] <S3> there
L332[13:50:23] <S3> ABORT and QUIT start
the execution of Forth code
L333[13:50:37] <S3> or at least they are
basically what happens right before magic
L334[13:51:05] <S3> on some forths they
point the reset vector to WARM
L335[13:51:10] <S3> and the program start
to COLD
L336[13:51:22] <S3> so that if the system
is reset it only initializes stuff it has to
L337[14:02:35] <S3> gamax92 O M G
L338[14:02:48] <S3> your forth has
DOES>
L339[14:02:53] <S3> DOES> is the most
powerful word in forth
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L341[14:13:21] <gamax92> S3: this was in
reference to EhBASIC, TaliForth has no boot up prompts
L342[14:30:59] <Inari> Well thats Sakura
Quest done. Ending an anime like it always leaves a bit of a
hole
L343[14:42:19] <Inari> Sigh, I still hate
google trying to be too clever for itself
L344[14:42:31] <Inari> upgrade and update
are not the same google
L345[14:52:31] <S3> gamax92: wat
L346[15:03:37] <gamax92> S3: what do you
mean wat
L347[15:04:01] <gamax92> EhBASIC says
"[C]old/[W]arm ?" and you type C, and then it says
"Memory size ? " and you type 49060
L348[15:04:07] <gamax92> TaliForth does
not do any of this
L349[15:04:23] <S3> oh
L350[15:04:39] <S3> well forth does have a
cold and warm routine usuallyt :D
L351[15:04:53] <S3> for booting
L352[15:17:51] <Inari> Temia: Would you go
to a butler cafe?
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L356[15:39:18] <Izaya> pointed question
:3
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L364[16:11:33] <AmandaC> TIL I've not been
running Wayland, probably since the 3.26 launnch.
L365[16:11:49] <AmandaC> I finally looked
into why gnome-shell seemed to keep crashing. It was an X11
protocol eerror
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L367[16:13:32] <AmandaC> That also
explains why the smoothness of the animations seemed to have
regressed in 3.26
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L376[17:08:13] <Temia> A butler
cafe...
L377[17:08:15] <Temia> I suppose?
L378[17:08:24] <Temia> Do any of them wear
glasses?
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L380[17:20:24] <AmandaC> Temia: she's gone
to bed, you'll have to %tell her
L381[17:22:11] <AmandaC> %choose watch
anime or listen podcasts
L382[17:22:11] <MichiBot> AmandaC: listen
podcasts
L383[17:22:13] <AmandaC> hrm
L384[17:22:14] <AmandaC> nah
L385[17:23:27] <Temia> Oh, okay.
L386[17:23:42] <Temia> %tell Inari If any
of them wear glasses, sure
L387[17:23:42] <MichiBot> Temia: Inari
will be notified of this message when next seen.
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L389[17:34:28] <S3> TIL
L390[17:34:34] <S3> Birds eat birds
L391[17:48:01] <gamax92> DOES>
L392[17:48:19] <S3> What about it
L393[17:48:22] <gamax92> what is it
L394[17:48:24] <S3> It's te most powerful
word in Forth
L395[17:48:27] <gamax92> what is it
L396[17:48:49] <S3> It marks runtime
behavior in a defining word and places the body address on the top
of the stack
L397[17:48:59] <S3> in essense, it allows
you to extend the compiler.
L398[17:49:26] <gamax92> S3: you can play
with the TaliForth btw, https://github.com/gamax92/Thistle-Forth
L399[17:49:26] <S3> it basically means
that by using DOES> you can create your dictionary the way you
want
L400[17:49:32] <gamax92> needs ophis
assembler
L401[17:49:38] <S3> hm
L402[17:49:53] <S3> I will at some
point
L403[17:50:03] <S3> might create some
handy dandy forth words for it
L404[17:50:07] <S3> for accessing
components, etc
L405[17:50:36] <gamax92> well there's also
the issue that the startup words don't work and it breaks whenever
you compile a word until you give it garbage
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L407[17:50:59] <gamax92> essentially it
seems to have compile issues
L408[17:51:13] <gamax92> testing outh all
the builtin words seem to work fine
L409[17:51:30] <gamax92> just that the
ones that are added runtime act weird
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L411[17:59:36] <payonel> why do people
like FORTH?
L412[18:00:00] <payonel> oh, Forth
L413[18:00:02] <payonel> i thought it was
all caps
L414[18:00:03] <payonel> huh
L415[18:00:22] <MGR>
payonel, I've heard that it's magic, and does everything
<MGR>
payonel, I've heard that it's magic, and does everythingL416[18:00:27] <MGR> Best
programming language ever
<MGR> Best
programming language everL417[18:02:11] <CompanionCube> payonel:
because it's simple yet powerful?
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L421[19:28:41] <S3> payonel: It has a lot
of benefits. Also, it's the only interpreted language you might
ever come accross which is faster than C
L422[19:29:49] <S3> so you guys heard
about KRACK right?
L423[19:30:04] <S3> https://www.krackattacks.com/?reqp=1&reqr=
L424[19:30:07] <S3> it's been known
but
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L427[20:15:14] <Arcanitor>
is there a mirror of the MIDI file specifications anywhere
<Arcanitor>
is there a mirror of the MIDI file specifications anywhereL428[20:24:30] <MGR> ~w
midi
<MGR> ~w
midiL429[20:24:30] <ocdoc> Predicted http://www.lua.org/manual/5.2/manual.html#pdf-io.stdin
L430[20:24:38] <MGR> Dang
it
<MGR> Dang
itL431[20:24:48] <MGR> I
could have sworn there was a midi api
<MGR> I
could have sworn there was a midi apiL432[20:24:53] <MGR> ~w
note
<MGR> ~w
noteL433[20:24:53] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/api:note
L434[20:25:09] <MGR>
That
<MGR>
ThatL435[20:25:43] <Arcanitor>
there is a lot more to parsing an entire MIDI file than just
that
<Arcanitor>
there is a lot more to parsing an entire MIDI file than just
thatL436[20:27:05] <MGR>
Yes
<MGR>
YesL437[20:27:30] <Arcanitor>
I need to get all the MIDI out of the binary file. This will help
with parsing it, though.
<Arcanitor>
I need to get all the MIDI out of the binary file. This will help
with parsing it, though.L438[20:27:55] <MGR> Which
is why I suggested it :)
<MGR> Which
is why I suggested it :)L439[20:38:17] <gamax92> @Arcanitor
http://www.pjb.com.au/comp/lua/MIDI.html
L440[20:45:52] <AmandaC> %choose lalalala,
lalalala or beep boop
L441[20:45:52] <MichiBot> AmandaC:
lalalala, lalalala
L442[20:48:30] <gamax92> %choose
investigate the compile or test the system or watch the youtubes or
profile the world
L443[20:48:30] <MichiBot> gamax92: watch
the youtubes
L444[20:48:35] <gamax92> good choice
L445[20:49:30] <AmandaC> ( lalalala-ing
from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeq2M6_sJP8 -- which
has been stuck in my head off-and-on since I binged the anime with
my sister a week or three ago )
L446[20:49:30] <MichiBot> Kemono
Friends OP "Youkoso Japari Park e" | length: 1m
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L447[20:50:59] <Xilandro> I wish i could
figure out why the fuck my mouse is clicking randomly
L448[20:52:11] <AmandaC> %choose LWA or
nichijou
L449[20:52:11] <MichiBot> AmandaC:
LWA
L450[20:53:55] <Arcanitor>
~w utf8
<Arcanitor>
~w utf8L451[20:53:55] <ocdoc> Predicted http://ocd.cil.li/api:buffer ( I tried D: )
L452[20:54:22] <Arcanitor>
what version of lua does OC use
<Arcanitor>
what version of lua does OC useL453[20:54:26] <Arcanitor>
5.1?
<Arcanitor>
5.1?L454[20:55:16] <gamax92> 5.2 and 5.3
L455[20:55:20] <gamax92> 5.2 by
default
L456[20:55:31] <gamax92> ~w unicode
L457[20:55:31] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/api:unicode
L458[21:02:28] <Arcanitor>
is the unicode api part of OPenOS?
<Arcanitor>
is the unicode api part of OPenOS?L459[21:06:20] <Arcanitor>
~w string
<Arcanitor>
~w stringL460[21:06:20] <ocdoc> http://www.lua.org/manual/5.2/manual.html#pdf-string
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L462[21:17:59] <Arcanitor>
I think I have a working version of this Lua library for OpenOS
now
<Arcanitor>
I think I have a working version of this Lua library for OpenOS
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L464[22:49:20] <Izaya> unicode API seems
to be just OC
L465[22:49:28] <Izaya> oh I'm an hour and
a half late okay
L466[22:50:20] <gamax92> %lua
math.random(10000, 65535)
L467[22:50:20] <MichiBot> 44409
L468[22:50:24] <gamax92> sure.
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