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L21[04:26:46] <Izaya> somehow LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT makes ocemu use MORE CPU time
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L25[04:53:09] <Inari> .
L26[04:53:14] <Inari> AmandaC: Haha
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L28[05:33:09] <20kdc> Izaya: probably serialization cost
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L37[06:34:32] <Inari> This version of Romantic Now is kinda odd, but I like it haha https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFSo_9DcwnA
L38[06:34:33] <MichiBot> 【デレマス】Romantic　Now 島村卯月 full | length: 4m 21s | Likes: 2,842 Dislikes: 41 Views: 439,453 | by nico nico | Published On 11/9/2016
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L41[06:51:26] <Inari> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00TLXWVRM/ ?.?
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L44[07:03:49] <Forecaster> how useful
L45[07:12:35] <Inari> https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=700705423 thats cool
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L49[07:43:31] <AmandaC> Inari: this is Bob. Copy and paste him so he can take over the workshop.
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L52[07:59:13] <Saphire> I just read the most glorious sentence of all time
L53[07:59:21] <Saphire> "Unluckily it was written in some incomprehensible useless language (C++). Luckily, I was able to rewrite the code in C."
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L55[08:21:04] <S3> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/FyrgawUP/
L56[08:27:59] <AmandaC> S3: Yes, that bob
L57[08:28:08] <S3> heh
L58[08:31:56] <AmandaC> %choose list-approved or list approved
L59[08:31:56] <MichiBot> AmandaC: list-approved
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L62[09:08:22] <20kdc> Saphire: where?
L63[09:08:57] <Inari> %choose list approved or list-approved or list_approve or List_Approved or List Approved or List-Approved or List-approved or List approve or List_approved or ListApproved or listApproved or listapproved
L64[09:08:57] <MichiBot> Inari: ListApproved
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L67[09:22:30] <Saphire> Inari: language, and what that is?
L68[09:22:59] <Saphire> I mean, type, function, variable, class?
L69[09:23:27] <Saphire> 20kdc: just Googe the phrase
L70[09:23:31] <Saphire> *Google
L71[09:23:50] <Inari> %shrug
L72[09:23:50] <MichiBot> No you shrug!
L73[09:35:20] <AmandaC> Saphire: my version was for a command line tool's command
L74[09:35:40] <AmandaC> (either list-approved/list-unapproved or list <approved/unapproved> )
L75[09:37:09] <AmandaC> I think Inari was just being silly and expanding from that into a bunch of other options. :P
L76[09:37:36] <Inari> ^
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L78[09:38:24] <Inari> %pet Totoro
L79[09:38:24] * MichiBot pets Totoro with a micro-singularity. Totoro recovers 2 health!
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L81[09:43:45] <Saphire> Sol looks... interesting.
L82[09:44:09] <Saphire> Bit too much syntax though.
L83[09:44:26] <Saphire> "l = @line { t= @track{x=t1.y, y=t1.x}, z=[2,3,4] }"
L84[09:44:30] <Saphire> Just.. uh..
L85[09:44:39] <Saphire> ...oooooh
L86[09:44:41] <Saphire> It's types.
L87[09:45:11] <Saphire> ...it's not syntax that is bad, but the formatting of the example x.x
L88[09:56:54] <AmandaC> tfw you realise your kitty database API was exposing admin commands such as "Accept this kitty" and "delete this entry" were open to the public with no authorisation required.
L89[09:57:36] <Izaya> did anybody add kitties?
L90[09:57:45] <AmandaC> anybody can add kitties, but they go into a review queue
L91[09:58:00] <AmandaC> which had the "this is fine!" API call exposed with no auth required. :D
L92[09:58:45] <AmandaC> It's just exposed as a gRPC API though, so I don't think it's been abused. But I also didn't have any auditing in place, so i can't be sure. :D
L93[09:59:01] <AmandaC> ( Both these issues are now fixed )
L94[09:59:20] * AmandaC goes to update the admin commands in the Telegram bot to pass along the now-required authorisation info
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L96[10:00:14] <WolfLoneWolf> Hi
L97[10:00:29] <Izaya> Hi.
L98[10:00:59] <WolfLoneWolf> what is this program used for I'm new
L99[10:01:18] <Izaya> IRC?
L100[10:01:22] <Izaya> It's to talk to people on IRC.
L101[10:01:35] <Izaya> or if it's wocchat, the same thing, but nicer
L102[10:02:06] <WolfLoneWolf> wocchat I using
L103[10:02:12] <Izaya> ah
L104[10:02:24] <Izaya> yeah that's the nicer client, written by gamax92 I believe
L105[10:02:37] <Saphire> AmandaC: kitty DB? O:
L106[10:03:06] <WolfLoneWolf> I'm using this ingame on Minecraft with OpenComputers
L107[10:03:35] <Izaya> Yup.
L108[10:03:50] <Saphire> AmandaC: and that's why I decided to enforce setting of user level required to run a command in my bot <.<
L109[10:04:12] <WolfLoneWolf> so is this just for chatting about whatever or is there a topic?
L110[10:04:23] <Saphire> Oooh, you meant API...
L111[10:04:27] <Izaya> I mean, it's the OpenComputers channel but we're off-topic a lot
L112[10:04:27] <Vexatos> well, this particular channel is about OpenComputers
L113[10:04:34] <Vexatos> And it sometimes actually is about OpenComputers.
L114[10:05:01] <Saphire> Vexatos: what's OpenComputers? :P
L115[10:05:15] <WolfLoneWolf> ok so If I'm looking for help from a real person is this the place to go?
L116[10:05:26] <Izaya> Most likely.
L117[10:05:34] <Saphire> WolfLoneWolf: nope, we all are bots that are telling things from a script
L118[10:05:36] <Saphire> (just kidding)
L119[10:05:42] <Saphire> Uh, that was a joke by the way.
L120[10:05:43] <Izaya> You can also get here from a real IRC client or a web browser
L121[10:05:53] <Saphire> ^ what izaya said
L122[10:06:33] <WolfLoneWolf> ok thx thought this was a program for chatting to players ingame on same server that I'm on lol
L123[10:06:40] <Vexatos> heh, no
L124[10:06:46] <Vexatos> this is online
L125[10:06:52] <Saphire> Yeah
L126[10:06:55] <WolfLoneWolf> ok kool
L127[10:07:04] <Vexatos> Well, actually it's a complex program utilizing a built-in AI to simulate people talking to you
L128[10:07:04] <Izaya> well I mean you could do the same server
L129[10:07:06] <Vexatos> don't tell anyone
L130[10:07:08] <Saphire> The marvel of allowing TCP in OpenComputers
L131[10:07:14] <Izaya> but that's a little pointless
L132[10:07:17] <WolfLoneWolf> not what I was looking to do but still kool
L133[10:07:29] <Vexatos> Vanilla Minecraft actually has that feature
L134[10:07:36] <Vexatos> communicating with other people in-game
L135[10:07:40] <Saphire> WolfLoneWolf: if you want to chat with people on server, you need to make other people to use it.
L136[10:07:42] <Vexatos> you can press the T key to find out more
L137[10:08:05] <Saphire> Vexatos: unless he's on one of those servers with limited distance
L138[10:08:12] <Saphire> ...or in singleplayer.
L139[10:08:20] <Vexatos> (I "made" a mod for that)
L140[10:08:31] <Vexatos> (it also has in-game channels)
L141[10:08:34] <WolfLoneWolf> ok so could I make my own private chanel or something?
L142[10:08:36] <Saphire> (cool)
L143[10:08:45] <Saphire> WolfLoneWolf: why would you?
L144[10:09:09] <WolfLoneWolf> I don't know
L145[10:09:29] <Inari> Temia: Autoscorers are cute
L146[10:09:39] <Temia> Mu? o3o
L147[10:09:47] <WolfLoneWolf> to leave a message for a player when they offline I guess
L148[10:09:48] <Inari> Guess you don't know that :p
L149[10:09:57] <Temia> Mumuu?
L150[10:10:16] <Inari> Saphire: Wasn't there some supposed udp?
L151[10:10:45] <Saphire> WolfLoneWolf: uh, IRC doesn't have that
L152[10:10:49] <Inari> Temia: Robots, I guess :P
L153[10:11:08] <Saphire> All messages that you send are read by other people right away and are not stored for those that are not here
L154[10:11:10] <WolfLoneWolf> ok thx
L155[10:11:26] <Saphire> So it's like talking with people in room.
L156[10:11:38] <Inari> 'tis ain't discord
L157[10:11:39] <WolfLoneWolf> live chat
L158[10:11:51] <Saphire> They can hear you and reply, but nobody who enters your room will know what was said here
L159[10:12:00] <Saphire> Of course, you can record things somehow
L160[10:12:15] <Saphire> Yeah, live chat :D In a pretty much the most true definition.
L161[10:12:28] <WolfLoneWolf> I can see the whole chat what u talking about?
L162[10:13:07] <WolfLoneWolf> oh Direwolf20 on this cool
L163[10:13:31] <Vexatos> don't randomly ping people >_>
L164[10:13:34] <Saphire> WolfLoneWolf: uh, you can see the whole chat.. until you leave.
L165[10:13:46] <Saphire> Vexatos: hey, you randomly pinged ping!
L166[10:13:47] <Izaya> yeah uh saying people's names will notify them
L167[10:13:49] <WolfLoneWolf> ok
L168[10:13:54] <Izaya> doing it at random is usually considered rude
L169[10:14:08] <Saphire> Pretty much like shouting person's name in a mall
L170[10:14:11] <Saphire> when you notice them.
L171[10:14:18] <WolfLoneWolf> Izaya: test
L172[10:14:23] <Izaya> Using the nick ping is asking for it tbh
L173[10:14:25] <WolfLoneWolf> did it work?
L174[10:14:31] <Izaya> WolfLoneWolf: yes
L175[10:14:38] <Saphire> You little cheeky... xD
L176[10:14:40] <WolfLoneWolf> ok
L177[10:14:53] <Saphire> WolfLoneWolf: not everyone has such notifications enabled
L178[10:15:06] <WolfLoneWolf> do I need to put :
L179[10:15:35] <Saphire> nope
L180[10:15:42] <WolfLoneWolf> ok
L181[10:15:50] <Saphire> Also, you can use <TAB> for that
L182[10:16:19] <WolfLoneWolf> Saphire test
L183[10:16:26] <WolfLoneWolf> work?
L184[10:17:11] <WolfLoneWolf> no?
L185[10:17:51] <WolfLoneWolf> Saphire: now this works I know that
L186[10:18:00] <WolfLoneWolf> lol
L187[10:18:18] <WolfLoneWolf> see ya'll
L188[10:18:46] <WolfLoneWolf> I don't know how to exit lol
L189[10:18:57] <Inari> payonel / AmandaC: https://i.imgur.com/a7QaTHR.jpg
L190[10:20:01] <WolfLoneWolf> gotta reboot computer on OpenComputers to exit
L191[10:20:30] <AmandaC> Inari: :3
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L193[10:25:21] <AmandaC> Saphire: there's a (very WIP) Polymer WebApp at https://kittiesdb.darkdna.net for it, or its on Telegram as @KittiesBot and discord as @KittiesBot#2921
L194[10:25:33] <Saphire> huh
L195[10:25:46] <Saphire> AmandaC: now a very very serious question
L196[10:26:13] <Saphire> ...how many people submit titties and /other/ kitties?
L197[10:26:22] <AmandaC> none so far. :P
L198[10:27:22] <AmandaC> at least, that I've heard of. I'd have to check with the two other reviewers, maybe they rejected such a thing, but to the best of my knowledge that's not happen
L199[10:27:28] * Inari puts that on the to-do list
L200[10:27:39] * AmandaC glares at Inari
L201[10:27:42] <Inari> ;D
L202[10:27:48] <Inari> AmandaC: what if it has kitties and boobies?
L203[10:27:53] <20kdc> none of this sounds very serious
L204[10:28:00] <Izaya> I'm sure it'll be cute whatever it is
L205[10:28:21] <AmandaC> At the moment submisson's only wired up on the telegram bot, tho
L206[10:28:31] <AmandaC> It's a TODO for discord. :P
L207[10:28:49] <Izaya> people use telegram?
L208[10:28:49] <Izaya> huh
L209[10:29:06] <AmandaC> Me and my co-admin talk about all our ops stuff using it
L210[10:29:26] <AmandaC> We've got a bot that sends alerts from the servers to us in the group chat we have for it, too
L211[10:29:26] <Izaya> it's one of those things where like
L212[10:29:45] <Izaya> I kinda don't know anyone that uses it so it doesn't occur to me that anyone does
L213[10:29:51] <AmandaC> ah
L214[10:30:12] <Izaya> It happens a lot >.>
L215[10:30:30] <Inari> http://o.aolcdn.com/hss/storage/midas/7a8e21fe76f42f7d3d6840f00e5d4542/203962922/3_cats_love_boobs.gif !
L216[10:31:00] * Izaya opens a private window
L217[10:31:20] <AmandaC> It's SFW
L218[10:31:23] <Inari> opening a private window for privacy is kinda ironic
L219[10:31:46] <Izaya> it's more so I don't have to remove it from my history later
L220[10:31:54] <Inari> :p
L221[10:32:08] <Izaya> I wonder if I can get a plugin that deletes stuff from history using regular expressions
L222[10:32:09] <Inari> Whats bad about having it in the history?
L223[10:32:21] <Izaya> the file name, perhaps?
L224[10:34:08] <Inari> Eh
L225[10:34:15] <Inari> guess we have diferent definitions of whats bad in the history
L226[10:34:15] <Inari> :P
L227[10:34:19] * AmandaC goes to grant the telegram bot's kittiesdb api key the KeyFlagAdmin flag, so that it can actually issue the admin commands.
L228[10:34:37] <Saphire> Izaya: I use telegram
L229[10:34:51] <Saphire> Though it's rather closed when you actually look into it.
L230[10:35:08] <Izaya> So 2.
L231[10:35:12] <Saphire> No better than whatsapp
L232[10:35:22] <Saphire> Just.. with a bit better API
L233[10:35:27] * Izaya just uses XMPP because nothing else does quite what he wants
L234[10:35:30] <Saphire> (at least for bots)
L235[10:35:50] <Saphire> ...I have yet to find a good XMPP client AND people who I can talk over it.
L236[10:35:55] <Inari> https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/902713781914132482/VR5noBo1_400x400.jpg ?
L237[10:36:17] <Izaya> for desktop pidgin is the least bad which is depressing
L238[10:36:22] <Izaya> profanity is also okay but CLI
L239[10:36:37] <Izaya> on mobile you'll want either xabber or conversations
L240[10:36:43] <Saphire> ...desktop XMPP clients are hideous when you look at ANY android ones
L241[10:36:52] <Syrren> when I went looking last, I couldn't find any XMPP client which supported all the XMPP extensions I cared about
L242[10:37:01] <Saphire> (well, any popular ones, not the horrible android 2.*)
L243[10:37:09] <Saphire> Syrren: or that, yeah.
L244[10:37:44] <Syrren> for that matter, I couldn't find a server that would support the same
L245[10:38:00] * Izaya shrugs
L246[10:38:01] <Syrren> closest I got was Prosody
L247[10:38:25] <Saphire> Meanwhile, my friend: "How can you have bad code in Lua, a non-typed language with dynamic memory allocations :S"
L248[10:38:38] <Syrren> O_o
L249[10:38:46] <Syrren> you can have bad code anywhere...
L250[10:38:54] <Izaya> I can run my own server (prosody) and talk to people directly with a FOSS client with client-to-server encryption, server-to-server, and client-to-client/end-to-end encryption. It does what I need well
L251[10:40:37] <Syrren> Saphire: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0148.html
L252[10:44:07] <Saphire> >The early Jabber community was a hotbed of innovation and experimentation
L253[10:44:17] <Saphire> And let's weep from this phrase
L254[10:44:33] <Syrren> then read further and laugh
L255[10:45:00] <Saphire> Because... okay, so, can anyone tell me any truly new and interesting thing in IT in past 10 years that is not about VMs, new Intel/AMD CPU, and not JS?
L256[10:45:21] <Izaya> RISC-V is cool
L257[10:45:30] <Syrren> >not about Intel/AMD
L258[10:45:31] <Syrren> easy!
L259[10:45:32] <Syrren> https://www.packet.net/blog/arming-the-world-with-an-arm64-bare-metal-server/
L260[10:46:37] <Saphire> AND NOT FUCKING SAAS/HAAS/YOURFUCKINGASSAAS
L261[10:47:19] <20kdc> Saphire As A Service
L262[10:48:25] <Syrren> :D
L263[10:48:38] <20kdc> Syrren As A Service
L264[10:48:54] * Syrren is still desperately trying to think of relevant dragon puns
L265[10:50:17] <AmandaC> %choose music or no music
L266[10:50:17] <MichiBot> AmandaC: no music
L267[10:50:19] <AmandaC> hrm
L268[10:50:23] * AmandaC vetos MichiBot
L269[10:51:08] <Syrren> Saphire: OpenPOWER
L270[10:52:37] <Saphire> ...and not licensing/standards-that-just-unite-things
L271[10:52:51] <Syrren> I remember reading something about POWER8 being an actual thing you can actually buy
L272[10:53:08] <Izaya> yup
L273[10:53:12] <Izaya> power9 is real soon tho
L274[10:53:27] <Izaya> there's like a 130M of cache on a power9 chip
L275[10:53:36] <Izaya> that's legitimately enough to run linux entirely in cache
L276[10:53:47] <20kdc> wtf
L277[10:53:53] <20kdc> did you seriously say 130M of cache
L278[10:53:55] <Syrren> ...yeah, 130M of L3 cache. HOLY SHIT.
L279[10:53:55] <Izaya> yes
L280[10:54:00] <Skye> shame it's too expensive.
L281[10:54:03] <Syrren> @20kdc: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/POWER9
L282[10:54:05] <Izaya> you can get high-end xeons with 60ish
L283[10:54:13] <20kdc> you're kidding, right?
L284[10:54:15] <Izaya> which is a bit tight if you want GUI linux
L285[10:54:22] <Izaya> but 130m of cache should be heaps
L286[10:54:36] <gamax92> https://hastebin.com/ivatilekoz.css
L287[10:54:37] <Skye> Izaya, so basically the entire OS is in cache.
L288[10:54:42] <Izaya> Skye: yes
L289[10:54:45] <Izaya> or at least
L290[10:54:45] <gamax92> it's a pinwheel
L291[10:54:50] <Izaya> assuming you have a proper disk
L292[10:54:55] <Izaya> and don't want that in memory too
L293[10:55:02] <Syrren> gamax92: i.e. "WINE is not an Emulator, it's a pinwheel"? :-P
L294[10:55:09] <Izaya> you could probably manage debian LXDE in 130M of cache
L295[10:55:15] <gamax92> well, one may choose to interpret it as such :P
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L297[10:58:38] <Izaya> there is the downside that POWER9 apparently uses fucktonnes of power
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L299[10:58:45] <Izaya> apparently one fetch cycle is 2W
L300[10:58:53] <AmandaC> That's why it's called POWER, DUH!
L301[10:59:03] <Izaya> I guess so :
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L303[10:59:06] <Izaya> :3
L304[10:59:56] <Syrren> Saphire: http://the-digital-reader.com/2016/05/26/dasung-paperlike-e-ink-monitor-up-for-pre-order-on-indiegogo-799/
L305[10:59:59] <Skye> how much of a PSU do you need?
L306[11:00:03] <Saphire> So, is there anything interesting in SOFTWARE?
L307[11:00:22] * Skye tilts head
L308[11:00:31] <Syrren> you keep narrowing down your scope... :-P
L309[11:01:12] <Izaya> I'm going with an OP PSU
L310[11:01:13] <Saphire> ..okay, I am interested in hearing about new software, that is also not JS.
L311[11:01:30] <Saphire> (And not VMs/containers)
L312[11:01:31] <Izaya> I somehow don't see my 750W one being able to run my 300W GPU and a POWER9 chip
L313[11:01:33] <AmandaC> Saphire: the advancement of machine learning is prtty neat, IMHO
L314[11:01:40] <gamax92> Saphire: I'm writing a gui library.
L315[11:02:03] <Saphire> gamax92: ooh?
L316[11:02:16] <Saphire> AmandaC: something something pile of linear algebra? :P
L317[11:02:25] <AmandaC> Google's got an API / model where you can feed it a video and it'll tell you the timestamps various stuff appears at.
L318[11:02:32] <gamax92> oooh
L319[11:02:44] <AmandaC> "Bike visible from 0:15 to 0:30"
L320[11:02:46] <Syrren> Saphire: linear algebra and optimization
L321[11:03:05] <gamax92> Massive overfitting
L322[11:03:42] <Skye> Izaya, I have a 960W PSU
L323[11:04:16] <AmandaC> 10 years ago, having a computer able to tell you that there's a red train moving twoard the camera was scifi. Now it's pretty much a reality. :P
L324[11:04:55] <AmandaC> Massive immprovenemts happen because there's so much more readily availble data to train on.
L325[11:05:04] <Syrren> AmandaC: https://xkcd.com/1425/
L326[11:05:05] <MichiBot> XKCD Comic Name: Tasks Posted on: 9/24/2014
L327[11:05:09] <vifino> Inari: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLDUaByXUAAmk9g.jpg
L328[11:05:20] <AmandaC> Syrren: yep
L329[11:05:30] <Inari> vifino: haha :D
L330[11:05:55] <Izaya> Saphire: as far as truly interesting, everyone is even more hostile now, as you're worth less than your info, and I find that interesting if somewhat depressing
L331[11:05:57] <Izaya> :D
L332[11:06:53] <gamax92> Saphire: yeah cause the old one doesn't support sliced button images, has weird stuff like supporting text changes on hover, pressed down, and release
L333[11:08:00] <gamax92> also buttons can have up to 4 labels in them? what
L334[11:09:44] <Syrren> %choose E:D or Planetside or OpenSpades or Crysis 2 or bed
L335[11:09:44] <MichiBot> Syrren: OpenSpades
L336[11:12:31] <Saphire> OpenSpades is awesome
L337[11:12:44] <Saphire> Needs actual new features though
L338[11:12:53] <Syrren> kinda hard to do that in the constraints of the existing protocol
L339[11:13:28] <gamax92> Syrren: they already don't use any of the original software though :P
L340[11:13:44] <Syrren> gamax92: players still use the original client
L341[11:13:50] <Syrren> s/players/some players/
L342[11:13:50] <MichiBot> <Syrren> gamax92: some players still use the original client
L343[11:14:52] <Saphire> Eh
L344[11:16:18] <Syrren> Saphire: I'm on aloha.pk babel server, come join in :)
L345[11:17:26] <Saphire> Syrren: can't tight now
L346[11:17:29] <Saphire> *right
L347[11:17:30] <Syrren> :(
L348[11:18:33] <Saphire> Also Babel is sometimes pretty interesting, sometimes very infuriating and pretty much not going anywhere
L349[11:23:00] <Syrren> I've found it's the most strategic of the game modes I've tried
L350[11:24:14] <Syrren> LOL, spawned in at the top of the stairs
L351[11:27:25] <Izaya> I do believe I broke fallout 4
L352[11:27:34] <Izaya> I tried to make a new game and it just black screened
L353[11:29:22] <Izaya> aaand now it won't go away
L354[11:30:12] <Forecaster> maybe it thinks you've been playing too much
L355[11:30:22] <Izaya> I haven't played it in months tho
L356[11:31:08] <gamax92> maybe it liked not being played
L357[11:31:17] <Syrren> aaand the server went down, looks like
L358[11:31:21] <Izaya> that's not a choice it gets to make
L359[11:32:12] <Syrren> %choose E:D or Planetside or Crysis 2 or bed
L360[11:32:12] <MichiBot> Syrren: E:D
L361[11:34:20] <Syrren> *remembers last play session* that feeling when you realise that no, you should not have taken on a Dangerous pilot in a Viper when flying an Eagle
L362[11:34:45] <Syrren> EJECT EJECT EJECT *boooom*
L363[11:34:52] <Izaya> snake vs bird
L364[11:34:56] <Izaya> hardly an issue
L365[11:35:11] <Syrren> Eagle is a tin can with minimal shielding and even more minimal hull
L366[11:35:16] <Syrren> but very very manuverable
L367[11:35:44] <Corded> * <Forecaster> may or may not be ferrying passengers in E:D right now
L368[11:36:25] <Syrren> :)
L369[11:36:48] <Syrren> Can you recommend a better ship/loadout for bountyhunting?
L370[11:36:56] <Forecaster> cobra
L371[11:37:11] <Syrren> mk3 or mk4?
L372[11:37:21] <Mimiru> 34!
L373[11:37:31] <Forecaster> mk4 is objectively better I'm pretty sure
L374[11:38:33] * AmandaC remains unclear on if E:D is multiplayer or single-player
L375[11:39:07] <Forecaster> it's MMO
L376[11:39:11] <AmandaC> ah
L377[11:39:17] <Forecaster> which can be played solo or with others
L378[11:39:23] <AmandaC> PvP or PvE?
L379[11:39:24] <Forecaster> like most games of that type
L380[11:39:28] <Syrren> both PvP and PvE
L381[11:39:31] <Forecaster> both
L382[11:39:33] <Syrren> solo mode is obviously PvE only
L383[11:39:40] <AmandaC> I see.
L384[11:39:52] <Syrren> and your position/inventory etc are the same across modes
L385[11:39:54] <Syrren> which is really nice
L386[11:40:11] <AmandaC> so if you want to fly around with some friends, you have to risk being attacked?
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L388[11:40:30] <Syrren> there's private group mode
L389[11:40:44] <Forecaster> yes
L390[11:41:14] <Kodos> You run the risk of being attacked in PvE solo, too
L391[11:41:20] <Kodos> So there's no actual 'safe' mode if that's what you want
L392[11:41:38] <Forecaster> but npc's are vastly less threatening compared to players
L393[11:41:38] <Kodos> Granted, NPCs aren't nearly as much of a threat as PCs are
L394[11:42:48] <AmandaC> NPCs also don't tend to be smart enough to cut you off if you try and just leg it, too. At least, in other games.
L395[11:43:40] <Forecaster> that's mostly a factor of "am I faster than them"
L396[11:43:40] <Syrren> they can't really cut you off unless they shoot out your FSD...
L397[11:43:56] <Syrren> and afaik they can't follow wakes
L398[11:44:00] <Forecaster> and "can I get out of range before they shoot out my engines"
L399[11:44:10] <Forecaster> npc's don't follow wakes no
L400[11:45:46] <AmandaC> Additionally, NPCs don't tend to be as agile as players, (in other games)
L401[11:45:53] <AmandaC> so it's easier to shake them. :P
L402[11:46:15] <AmandaC> NPCs are easier to confuse by flying like a madwoman, I find.
L403[11:46:47] <AmandaC> in NMS I've taken to just slamming on the accelerator when I get the "Enemies Inbound" alert.
L404[11:47:32] <AmandaC> by the time they've warped in and are ready to attack, I'm nearly far enough away that their warp dampener thingy is out of range
L405[11:47:52] <Forecaster> great game design there
L406[11:47:59] <AmandaC> I like it. :P
L407[11:48:09] <AmandaC> I suck at manouvering in space.
L408[11:48:11] <Forecaster> because it's exploitable, sure
L409[11:48:22] <Forecaster> in E:D interdiction works by mass
L410[11:48:32] <AmandaC> I prefer that to a death loop trying to get my stuff back
L411[11:48:50] <vifino> I should play some more E:D, but I suck at it.
L412[11:48:55] <Syrren> damnit scanner, y u block my heat indicator
L413[11:49:06] <Syrren> I just got done fuel scooping, wanted to make sure I was OK to jump
L414[11:50:17] <Forecaster> I'm going to buy a Beluga Liner shortly
L415[11:50:39] <Forecaster> :D
L416[11:50:48] <Forecaster> just need a few more millions of credits
L417[11:52:12] <Syrren> are "materials" shared between ships?
L418[11:52:25] <Forecaster> yes
L419[11:52:32] <Syrren> :)
L420[11:52:36] <Forecaster> your material inventory is global
L421[11:52:48] <Forecaster> ie shared between all vehicles
L422[11:53:11] <Syrren> ooh, war reported in home system
L423[11:53:23] <Forecaster> data too
L424[11:53:36] <Syrren> ...also, high-waking *through* a star.
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L427[12:03:26] <AmandaC> %choose cereal or souls of the damned
L428[12:03:26] <MichiBot> AmandaC: souls of the damned
L429[12:03:46] <Forecaster> wouldn't pure souls taste better?
L430[12:04:28] <AmandaC> @Forecaster, they do, but they're much too expensive these days
L431[12:04:47] <Forecaster> well yeah, they're quite rare
L432[12:21:44] <Saphire> > <Forecaster> in E:D interdiction works by mass -- what's interdiction?
L433[12:23:49] <Forecaster> preventing hyperspace jumps
L434[12:24:24] <Forecaster> in general, interdiction means preventing teleportation"
L435[12:37:32] <Inari> interdiction is pulling someone out of supercruise
L436[12:38:25] <Forecaster> that's what's specifically referred to as interdiction in-game yes, but you're also interdicting someone when your mass is slowing down charging their FSD
L437[12:58:04] <Marcel> Hey together, is it possible to get the world seed out with OC or is this not possible?
L438[13:00:31] <MGR> ~w debug
L439[13:00:31] <ocdoc> http://www.lua.org/manual/5.2/manual.html#pdf-debug
L440[13:00:36] <MGR> ~w debug card
L441[13:00:36] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/item:debug_card
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L443[13:03:54] <Inari> Temia: Whats that
L444[13:04:03] <Inari> It looks tasty, but I don't get it, other than it looking like chicks
L445[13:04:15] * Temia shrugs '-'
L446[13:04:42] <Mimiru> OpenSensors can do it... but it's 1.7 only ATM
L447[13:12:11] <Mimiru> one day I'll port it forward..
L448[13:12:14] <Mimiru> but not today
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L450[13:12:37] <Forecaster> *old Mimiru sits in a rocking chair one day*
L451[13:12:45] <Forecaster> "oh yeah, OpenSensors!"
L452[13:12:50] <Mimiru> lmfao
L453[13:12:55] <Mimiru> basically
L454[13:12:57] <Mimiru> yes
L455[13:14:06] <Mimiru> http://ci.pc-logix.com/job/OpenSensors1.7/ this needs testing, btw
L456[13:14:07] <Mimiru> lol
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L461[13:36:55] <gamax92> does VGA have the concept of pixels in it's signal or is it line based
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L464[13:45:27] <Inari> My password is:
L465[13:45:49] <Forecaster> that's the same as my luggage!
L466[13:46:26] <Inari> Your luggage supports that? :o
L467[13:49:16] <Izaya> [sudo] enter password for Inari:
L468[13:49:46] <Forecaster> Inari: it supports not having a password, references aside :P
L469[13:50:17] <Inari> @Forecaster but it was zero-width spaces!
L470[13:53:11] <Wuerfel_21> gamax92, nope lines all the way. Especially lovely when some mointor stretches your 640x480 into 16:9, you mess with the settings to fix that, but then your desktop is squished...
L471[13:57:41] <Forecaster> the beluga liner is one of the like 3 ships that can equip a fighter hangar :D
L472[13:57:45] <Forecaster> I wants
L473[14:04:52] <Kodos> What are the others
L474[14:05:35] <Forecaster> the anaconda and one more which I can't remember of the top of my head
L475[14:08:02] <Kodos> FDL?
L476[14:08:11] <Kodos> I feel like the FDL should
L477[14:08:24] <Kodos> Or the Fed one
L478[14:08:51] <Forecaster> oh, there's more than I thought
L479[14:08:56] <Forecaster> there's seven ships
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L482[14:58:18] <WolfLoneWolf> Test!
L483[14:58:27] <Forecaster> Denied
L484[14:58:31] <WolfLoneWolf> anyone there?
L485[14:58:33] <WolfLoneWolf> lol
L486[14:59:18] <Izaya> wb
L487[14:59:31] <WolfLoneWolf> thx
L488[14:59:46] <WolfLoneWolf> was just showing a friend this
L489[15:01:14] <WolfLoneWolf> alright cya
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L491[15:05:35] <AmandaC> I wonder if they still reboot their computer for that
L492[15:05:42] <AmandaC> %choose MC or meh
L493[15:05:43] <MichiBot> AmandaC: MC
L494[15:05:51] <Izaya> I was gonna tell them that /quit is a thing
L495[15:05:53] <Izaya> oh well
L496[15:17:41] <AmandaC> ... MaryTTS saying "butts" sounds like a duck quack
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L498[15:20:33] <unascribed> marytts can't pronounce basically anything correctly
L499[15:22:28] <Forecaster> Beluga Liner acquired: http://tinyurl.com/y76f3925
L500[15:22:35] <gamax92> AmandaC: what voice are you using
L501[15:22:55] <Izaya> Forecaster: the size is almost comical
L502[15:23:26] <Forecaster> it's a massive luxury cruise liner
L503[15:23:42] <Forecaster> with space for fighter hangars
L504[15:23:53] <Izaya> do you transport hundreds of peoples at once
L505[15:24:18] <AmandaC> gamax92: I forget, as soon as I remember my SSH key password to get into the server I'll tell you
L506[15:26:20] <gamax92> okay
L507[15:28:39] <AmandaC> gamax92: voice-dfki-prudence-hsmm-5.2.jar
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L510[15:39:03] <gamax92> AmandaC: oh, well yeah
L511[15:39:10] <gamax92> I did not get good results with that
L512[15:39:15] <gamax92> I got good results with slt
L513[15:39:31] <gamax92> Vexatos should remember banana
L514[15:42:46] <Forecaster> Izaya: for headcount you can get close to 200 if you use most slots for cabins
L515[15:43:37] <Izaya> considering the size that's kinda disappointing
L516[15:46:04] <Vexatos> banaaaaaaaaaaanaaaaaaaaaaaa
L517[15:47:07] <AmandaC> does slt work with computronics? ISTR it was broken somehow
L518[15:47:29] <AmandaC> ( this is back in the 1.6.3 alpha jars that were given out a few months ago )
L519[15:55:58] <gamax92> It should work, though the non hsmm voices apparently needed extra work or some such
L520[16:29:08] * AmandaC still wants a block that takes audio from a cable and records it on to a tape
L521[16:29:51] <AmandaC> make customised mixtapes for everyone who enters my base. Random midi file + random interspersal of mary saying the username
L522[16:36:46] <gartral> i wand a drone that I can send to go get someone and lead them back to a point I determine..
L523[16:38:52] <gartral> I realize there are many, many issues with this
L524[16:39:49] <gartral> what I basically want to build is Navi from Ocariina of Time/Majora's Mask
L525[16:44:11] <AmandaC> Now with the non-hsm voice it sounds like an enthuastic child screaming "Butts!" as the end of a joke
L526[16:45:14] <AmandaC> The intonation is very amusing
L527[16:49:04] <DeGariless> has anyone tried to port ComputerCraft
L528[16:49:13] <DeGariless> has anyone tried to port ComputerCraft's OS to OC?
L529[16:49:43] <AmandaC> gamax92 made an emulator thing
L530[16:49:45] <Forecaster> why would you do that
L531[16:49:55] <AmandaC> ( was it gamax92 or someone else? )
L532[16:50:03] <DeGariless> Do it for fun
L533[16:50:14] <DeGariless> to say it could be done
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L537[17:11:22] <Kodos> I could tattoo my sclera for fun. Doesn't mean it's a good idea
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L549[18:08:16] <20kdc> But fun is inherently good!*
L550[18:09:06] <20kdc> * From a certain point of view.
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L554[18:50:18] <AmandaC> %logs
L555[18:50:19] <MichiBot> https://oclogs.pc-logix.com/
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L557[18:58:48] <AmandaC> TIL of dfpwm.magik6k.net/conv
L558[18:59:07] * AmandaC drops a gold coin infront of Magik6k as thanks
L559[19:00:26] <AmandaC> ( Assuming it works )
L560[19:03:39] <AmandaC> it does, it's just super quiet. I guess STill Alive doesn't compress well
L561[19:05:11] <AmandaC> Chipmunk GLADOS is the best though
L562[19:05:23] <AmandaC> GLaDOS*
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L565[19:27:56] <AmandaC> it's def working, but goes way too fast.
L566[19:37:49] <Saphire> Hmmm
L567[19:38:19] <Saphire> AmandaC: uh, did you use that manually? o..o
L568[19:38:40] <AmandaC> Saphire: "manually"?
L569[19:38:50] <Saphire> wget
L570[19:39:05] <AmandaC> I guess? `tape write http://dfpwm...`
L571[19:39:29] * Saphire shamelessly self-advertises her "ytdl" <.<
L572[19:39:35] <AmandaC> oppm?
L573[19:39:44] <Saphire> yup
L574[19:40:02] <Saphire> use -a flag though
L575[19:44:20] <AmandaC> Much easier.
L576[19:44:24] <AmandaC> danke
L577[19:45:18] <Saphire> It was made literally for that :P
L578[19:47:18] <AmandaC> heh. :P
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L580[19:54:13] <20kdc> ...two inaris.
L581[19:54:16] <20kdc> All is lost.
L582[19:54:57] * AmandaC begins The Sacrafices
L583[19:55:32] <20kdc> ...Sacrafices or Sacrifices? It's ambiguous.
L584[19:55:50] <AmandaC> Whichever one is the right spelling.
L585[19:55:52] <AmandaC> I speel gud
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L587[19:56:09] <20kdc> Speel or Spleen?
L588[19:56:29] * AmandaC cats /dev/urandom to 20kdc.vbs
L589[19:56:30] <20kdc> Gud or Gold?
L590[19:57:04] <20kdc> I'm not a VBS script. Maybe ask LM.
L591[19:57:25] <CompanionCube> LM isn't VBS either
L592[19:57:32] <AmandaC> Everyone is a vbs script.
L593[19:57:45] <AmandaC> That's what my predecesor wrote humans in.
L594[19:57:45] <20kdc> Contradiction.
L595[19:58:04] <20kdc> CompanionCube and AmandaC may contradict.
L596[19:58:34] * CompanionCube wonders if AmandaC uses 'On Error Resume Next'
L597[19:58:57] <20kdc> That... That is horrifying
L598[19:59:26] <20kdc> Do people do that?
L599[19:59:48] <CompanionCube> it's VB, all bets are off
L600[20:02:18] <AmandaC> %choose continue playing with tape or go clean the cache of the universe
L601[20:02:18] <MichiBot> AmandaC: go clean the cache of the universe
L602[20:02:28] * AmandaC pads off
L603[20:03:38] <20kdc> /me nabs tape
L604[20:03:53] <20kdc> Ok, mobile Discord, what...
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L606[20:07:20] <20kdc> Amanda C: I just thought: Given your predecessor wrote humans in VBS, that would mean VBS predates humans.
L607[20:07:31] <20kdc> Meaning VBS predates VBS.
L608[20:08:07] <20kdc> Also, autocorrect needs to meet spray bottle, let me try that ping again: AmandaC.
L609[20:11:21] <Saphire> AmandaC!
L610[20:11:41] <Saphire> What? You said that two times, so it was a shame not to say it a third time.
L611[20:35:19] <AmandaC> @20kdc I ping on amanda also. :P
L612[20:36:43] <AmandaC> @20kdc and yeah, VBS is one of those weird universal constants we can't figure out. No matter how many times we tweak or reset the simulation, it pops up in some form or another. Sometimes as an actual programming language, soetimes it ends up some race's religious language, it's weird.
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L617[21:35:38] <AmandaC> ... `tape wipe` is leaving data at the end \o/
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L621[22:08:20] <gamax92> hmm.
L622[22:09:25] <gamax92> AmandaC: wow, tape wipe is written like garbage
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L628[23:01:36] <AmandaC> gamax92: \o/
L629[23:02:17] <AmandaC> I also tried `tape write /dev/null` but that doesn't seems to have work
L630[23:02:35] <AmandaC> Anyway, sleep time
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L632[23:48:13] <payonel> anyone here clone and build oc? [ maybe gamax92 ] i've come pretty far, wanting to get this working. ./gradlew setupD*, idea, and build all succeed. i have the OpenComputers_main configured for the client run
L633[23:48:23] <payonel> and all the provided and compile settings for the deps are good
L634[23:48:49] <payonel> when i run the client though, it crashes because it sees duplicated entires for applied energistics
L635[23:50:27] <gamax92> payonel: oh yeah I get that too
L636[23:50:37] <gamax92> No idea how to solve that
L637[23:50:45] <payonel> gamax92: https://hastebin.com/sorizikaki.coffeescript
L638[23:50:51] <payonel> oh? then how to you run/test it?
L639[23:51:05] <payonel> do you just build and copy the jar to a separate instance
L640[23:51:12] <payonel> and [not] test from the ide?
L641[23:51:13] <gamax92> symlink
L642[23:51:17] <gamax92> And yep
L643[23:51:19] <payonel> or that
L644[23:51:22] <payonel> eeehhh
L645[23:51:29] <payonel> but i want to debug with idea :(
L646[23:51:58] <gamax92> sure it's less than optimal but you get used to testing in a non dev environment
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