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L4[02:28:57] <Laine_prikol> !users
L5[02:31:13] <Izaya> nobody
L6[02:34:12] <g> nobody but us chickens
L7[02:35:31] <Skye> What does that mean
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L16[03:32:55] <Forecaster> !chickens
L17[03:33:22] <Forecaster> Damn, that didn't work either, I feel betrayed
L18[03:42:33] <Izaya> I wish blocks kept their component IDs
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L20[03:42:58] <QwQ> 0.0
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L22[03:43:43] <ben_mkiv> lul
L23[03:45:17] <Vexatos> thanky bichimot
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L25[03:53:34] <Forecaster> At least blocks are easy to get the address of
L26[03:54:58] <Izaya> true, but still :|
L27[03:55:31] <Vexatos> The odd thing about that is that the component address is part of the NBT data
L28[03:55:41] <Vexatos> so if that doesn't work, all blocks should randomly be losing their NBT >_>
L29[03:58:00] <Izaya> but keyboards stack even when you pick them back up?
L30[03:58:18] <Vexatos> oh you mean when broken >_>
L31[03:58:50] <Izaya> yeah
L32[04:30:07] <Forecaster> Do they keep the data if you pop it with a scrench?
L33[04:37:22] <Izaya> haven't tried tbh
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L36[05:18:25] <Forecaster> Me neither
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L38[05:33:51] <ben_mkiv> forecaster i've seen in your LP that you like trains... :P
L39[05:33:52] <ben_mkiv> https://minecraft.curseforge.com/projects/railcraft-cosmetic-additions
L40[05:45:58] <ben_mkiv> also...
L41[05:47:45] <ben_mkiv> S3 => https://minecraft.curseforge.com/projects/oc-minecarts
L42[05:50:04] <Izaya> whoa
L43[05:50:12] <Izaya> it ended up being a thing
L44[05:50:23] <ben_mkiv> the oc cart?
L45[05:50:29] <Izaya> yeah
L46[05:50:35] <ben_mkiv> that mod exists for 2 years
L47[05:50:45] <ben_mkiv> but i also just found it looking for more railcraft addons
L48[05:50:54] <Izaya> it's been discussed for a long time
L49[05:50:55] <Izaya> the idea
L50[05:51:05] <ben_mkiv> curse is pretty nice with it's search for mods which depend on each other
L51[05:52:18] <ben_mkiv> looks like it also has some update to control locomotives
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L53[06:02:14] <Inari> I wonder if thers some kinda competition for making the most annoying website, cause lots of websites seem to certainly quite good at that
L54[06:03:18] <Izaya> race to the bottom
L55[06:03:46] <Izaya> except when it's intentional because then it's just entertaining
L56[06:04:40] <Izaya> ben_mkiv: https://i.imgur.com/9hEgHkX.png
L57[06:05:42] <Vexatos> ben_mkiv, Computronics has a way cooler way to control locomotives :<
L58[06:05:52] <Vexatos> Computronics consists of 20% Railcraft integration :>
L59[06:06:05] <ben_mkiv> computronics has so much nice stuff
L60[06:06:19] <ben_mkiv> should add it to my test instance xD
L61[06:06:21] <Vexatos> And I wrote every single part of these 20% ._.
L62[06:06:27] <ben_mkiv> \o/
L63[06:06:32] <Vexatos> Railcraft support was actually the first contribution I ever made to Computronics
L64[06:06:35] <Vexatos> back in 2014
L65[06:06:44] <Vexatos> the first code contribution, that is
L66[06:08:12] <ben_mkiv> probably motivated me to code some stuff, too :>
L67[06:09:24] <ben_mkiv> i hit on it when i searched for something that can interact with chat
L68[06:09:38] <ben_mkiv> but from what i remember it wasnt able to run commands
L69[06:10:21] <ben_mkiv> which still would be some nice feature
L70[06:11:59] <Forecaster> ben_mkiv we have railcraft cosmetics add-ons on the railcraft server
L71[06:12:06] <MGR> http://dilbert.com/strip/2017-09-24
L72[06:12:35] <Forecaster> And I've used oc-minecarts in my original letsplay
L73[06:13:22] <Forecaster> Or maybe I never did... But I have it on there
L74[06:13:54] <Vexatos> Have not used Computronics yet though :⁾
L75[06:14:57] <Izaya> "Current track: generic happy music"
L76[06:17:37] <ben_mkiv> I have started updating to 1.10.2 but since 2 month the project is pretty "dead". The source code is open so everybody can try updating it. I might continue updating but not in the near future.
L77[06:17:39] <ben_mkiv> ;_;
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L81[07:19:12] <MGR> http://cloud-4.steamusercontent.com/ugc/537394315975387994/6F3773F91FCF77413A0BDC378DF21A33B59F6235/
L82[07:19:55] <Syrren> pfffft
L83[07:26:58] <Lizzy> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-41385619 hahaha
L84[07:29:34] <Ben> well...
L85[07:29:48] <Ben> they obviously can only find the poor ones
L86[07:34:26] <ben_mkiv> wonder if i should limit the possible widget count for openglasses, and add database upgrades :>
L87[07:34:49] <ben_mkiv> as oc has them, i could use them as anvil upgrades to increase the widgetcount
L88[07:35:28] <Izaya> "In addition, attempts to raise cash via donations of bitcoins have been diluted by fraudsters cashing in on the IS name and producing websites mimicking the appeals for funds. "
L89[07:35:30] <Izaya> That
L90[07:35:32] <Izaya> s uh
L91[07:35:40] <Izaya> fucked up, but I also have no sympathy
L92[07:35:57] <ben_mkiv> lul
L93[07:36:00] <ben_mkiv> same
L94[07:36:22] <Izaya> https://a.pomf.cat/tgdblj.png help
L95[07:36:26] <Izaya> which one do I choose
L96[07:36:57] <ben_mkiv> %choose googlethatgame DONT
L97[07:36:58] <Izaya> this is a totally aribitrary choice because I don't physically have to walk to either
L98[07:36:58] <MichiBot> ben_mkiv: googlethatgame DONT
L99[07:37:10] <ben_mkiv> whut
L100[07:37:11] <Izaya> if you're wondering
L101[07:37:16] <Izaya> there are NSFW parts
L102[07:37:24] <Izaya> but there's an option for them
L103[07:37:32] <Izaya> and the game itself has a good story
L104[07:40:44] <ben_mkiv> but it looks like one of those "slideshow games"
L105[07:41:54] <Syrren> %choose tell ben_mkiv about %choose or be productive
L106[07:41:55] <MichiBot> Syrren: tell ben_mkiv about %choose
L107[07:42:12] <Izaya> library it is
L108[07:42:14] <Izaya> >.>
L109[07:42:21] <ben_mkiv> %choose googlethatgame or DONT
L110[07:42:22] <MichiBot> ben_mkiv: googlethatgame
L111[07:42:31] <ben_mkiv> %choose cat or dog
L112[07:42:32] <MichiBot> ben_mkiv: dog
L113[07:42:41] <ben_mkiv> %choose 0 or 1
L114[07:42:41] <MichiBot> ben_mkiv: 1
L115[07:42:53] <ben_mkiv> ok, this may lead to future spam
L116[07:43:02] <Syrren> I'm pretty sure you can PM the bot
L117[07:43:05] <Lizzy> ^
L118[07:43:08] <Syrren> yes
L119[07:43:10] <Lizzy> also please don't spam
L120[07:43:12] <Syrren> (just tested)
L121[07:43:13] <ben_mkiv> great, my first friend :D
L122[07:47:24] <LuMistry> Greetings
L123[07:48:15] <Izaya> https://makinig.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/spam.jpg
L124[07:48:35] <Lizzy> damn izaya, making me hungry
L125[07:48:48] <Izaya> you like that stuff?
L126[07:48:50] <Izaya> geez
L127[07:48:53] <Izaya> I tried it once, hardly nice
L128[07:48:55] <Lizzy> yes
L129[07:49:01] <Izaya> everyone to their own I guess
L130[07:49:10] <Izaya> still, meat should not be canned >.>
L131[07:49:13] <Lizzy> i ate a whole tin of it, on it's own, with a fork
L132[07:52:22] <AmandaC> %choose Metroid or try and code or DEATH TO THE TRAITORS OF THE CAT KINGDOM!!!
L133[07:52:23] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Metroid
L134[07:52:34] <Syrren> ...there are traitors in the cat kingdom? D:
L135[07:53:28] <Izaya> who?
L136[07:53:57] <AmandaC> Yes, some tratorius cats who refuse to obey the simplest of laws: if I fits I sits
L137[07:54:07] <Izaya> :oooooo
L138[08:01:13] <Temia> What if they don't want to sits?
L139[08:01:40] <Izaya> that's an individual decision
L140[08:01:51] <Temia> Also I want a cute extended mousepad simply for rubber's sound-dampening properties. But I can't find any cute fey ones :<
L141[08:01:52] <Izaya> however, everyone has the right to sits where they fits
L142[08:17:30] <MGR> %source
L143[08:17:30] <MichiBot> https://github.com/PC-Logix/LanteaBot/
L144[08:23:55] <MGR> To put it another way, on a scale of 1 being least aggressive to 10 being most aggressive, Ghandi becomes 255 points of pure nuclear rage.
L145[08:24:14] <Izaya> playing Civ?
L146[08:24:50] <MGR> Not currently, but I do play it semi-frequently
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L152[09:38:37] <Pirate> is there any good OS for OC which isn't OpenOS?
L153[09:39:29] <Michiyo> Well, theres OpenOS, there is also OpenOS... Oh, and OpenOS.
L154[09:39:34] <Michiyo> MineOS is trash...
L155[09:39:38] <MGR> ^
L156[09:39:51] <MGR> What about SecureOS?
L157[09:39:52] <Michiyo> theres Plan9k.. but I've never used it so I couldn't tell you anything about it
L158[09:40:00] <MGR> Or has that finally been laid to rest?
L159[09:40:08] <Michiyo> SecureOS IS OpenOS, with some security crap layered on top of it.
L160[09:40:49] <Michiyo> and without Shuudoushi around to maintain it it's pretty much dead, payonel was talking about working on it but IDK what happened there
L161[09:41:03] <Michiyo> I don't know Lua well enough to do anything with it.
L162[09:41:23] <MGR> Ah
L163[09:41:54] <Michiyo> (Though there is a REALLY good chance I know it better than Shuudoushi does) :P
L164[09:42:38] <MGR> What makes you say that?
L165[09:43:13] <Michiyo> I had to help him with LOTS of SecureOS's code..
L166[09:43:28] <MGR> Ah
L167[09:43:42] <MGR> ~markov Shuudoushi
L168[09:43:42] <ocdoc> where is mpt meant to be too much of a bug report section
L169[09:44:10] <payonel> Michiyo: i wanted to update it, and i mostly did update the dev branch. openos feature development is done for now so it would be a good time to finish updating secureos. my main concern was that no one is testing the updates i made
L170[09:44:25] <MGR> Shuudoushi last spoke in August 22, 2016
L171[09:46:51] <Michiyo> %seen Shuudoushi
L172[09:46:51] <MichiBot> Shuudoushi was last seen 442d 17h 54m 43s ago. Saying: No Record
L173[09:47:08] <MGR> I, uh, already went through the logs for that ?
L174[09:47:24] <Michiyo> So, what I'm hearing here payonel is that I need to switch OpenSec to pulling from Dev.
L175[09:47:25] <Michiyo> got it :P
L176[09:47:27] <MGR> @Shuudoushi
L177[09:48:12] <Kodos> If there was any kind of documentation for the additional stuff that SecOS added, I'd probably test it
L178[09:48:12] <payonel> Michiyo: :) i can at least finish merging to the dev branch
L179[09:49:07] <payonel> @pirate anything in particular missing/wrong with openos? or just curious?
L180[09:49:28] <Pirate> just want a gui
L181[09:49:33] <MGR> payonel, add a feature to link multiple computers together and do SMP ?
L182[09:51:37] <Kodos> OC isn't really a good medium for anything past a minimal GUI
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L184[09:51:43] <Kodos> Why don't you like the CLI approach?
L185[09:52:07] <MGR> Becaues GUIs can look better?
L186[09:52:11] <Pirate> somteime's its hard to nanvigate
L187[09:52:16] <MGR> I agree with your point on medium limitations
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L189[10:00:31] * Izaya looks at his testing cluster in SP
L190[10:00:42] <Izaya> Hardly useful but it's responsive
L191[10:03:43] <Forecaster> Since when did anything have to be useful
L192[10:04:14] * gamax92 tries to make good world gen, makes garbage instead
L193[10:05:14] <Izaya> fair point, Forecaster, it's all in Minecraft anyway
L194[10:06:32] <MGR> @Forecaster Since the dawn of time
L195[10:07:48] <gamax92> Alternative universe: hydrogen wasn't useful
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L198[10:34:18] * Izaya sighs
L199[10:35:37] <S3> ?
L200[10:36:31] <Izaya> S3: dunno if you got the question before, but why is maine so scary
L201[10:36:47] <Izaya> every horror story in the US is set in maine
L202[10:36:55] <Izaya> what's the go?
L203[10:36:57] <MGR> It's a desolate waste
L204[10:37:02] <MGR> Filled with trees
L205[10:37:11] <Izaya> do you guys have like, a ghost factory there or something?
L206[10:37:14] <MGR> Right on the border of the land of eternal snow that isn't Siberia
L207[10:37:33] <MGR> There's a reason people of Maine are called Maineiacs
L208[10:40:07] <MGR> Nothing? Really?
L209[10:44:43] * Izaya grumbles
L210[10:45:13] <MGR> What?
L211[10:45:41] <MGR> I live in the same country as Maine, so I know more ?
L212[10:50:53] <MGR> This had passable (though inexplicably mangled) in-game music and improved sound effects. Crashes now sounded like maracas being thrown out of a window. --- Quote 3/3
L213[11:06:10] <Forecaster> "I watch you sleeping"
L214[11:06:10] <Forecaster> "A collection of songs for you and your children"
L215[11:06:13] <Forecaster> is a real thing
L216[11:06:39] <Syrren> lol, I try to open E:D launcher, it asks to update. update starts installing VCredist 2005 and 2010... siiiigh
L217[11:06:47] <MGR> @Forecaster Waaaaat
L218[11:06:59] <Forecaster> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4TC-7xwPmM
L219[11:06:59] <MichiBot> Massive CD & DVD Mystery Box Thing | Ashens | length: 18m 51s | Likes: 4,855 Dislikes: 104 Views: 108,825 | by ashens | Published On 25/9/2017
L220[11:07:10] <Syrren> also fuck, E:D servers down for update
L221[11:07:12] <Forecaster> it's the first disc he gets
L222[11:12:47] <Syrren> > "Add distance from starsystem entry to mission destinations"
L223[11:12:48] <Syrren> YESSSS
L224[11:13:12] <Forecaster> ohno, now the entire game is ruined
L225[11:13:15] <Corded> * <Forecaster> cries
L226[11:13:34] <Syrren> ...how's it ruined?
L227[11:13:44] <Forecaster> Ruined!
L228[11:13:48] <Corded> * <Forecaster> runs off crying
L229[11:14:50] <Forecaster> (I'm not being serious if you can't tell)
L230[11:15:43] <Syrren> ah. I didn't get what was so contentious about the QoL feature in question, but w/e
L231[11:16:11] <Forecaster> :P
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L233[11:19:18] <Syrren> @Forecaster btw, for low-rebuy bountyhunting, is the Eagle a good choice?
L234[11:19:32] <Forecaster> uh
L235[11:19:44] <Forecaster> depends what you consider low I guess
L236[11:19:58] <Syrren> iirc I have ~16mil creds
L237[11:20:06] <Forecaster> compared to my python a cobra is pennies
L238[11:20:22] <Forecaster> I've never really used an eagle
L239[11:20:28] <Forecaster> so I don't know how they are
L240[11:20:38] <Forecaster> I've mostly stuck to multi-purpose ships
L241[11:20:42] <Syrren> I'm loving the Eagle's insane turn rates, but it's a tin can in terms of shields (& hull integrity)
L242[11:21:06] <Forecaster> well yeah, it's more of a dodge fighter
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L244[11:21:23] <Syrren> and it can't be fully A-specced with non-projectile weapons without compromising somewhere else, due to power limits
L245[11:21:48] <Forecaster> sounds like I haven't missed much :P
L246[11:22:19] <Syrren> heh
L247[11:22:46] <Forecaster> the npc ones haven't been much of a threat
L248[11:23:55] <Syrren> well yeah, npc eagle vs annie is a non-contest
L249[11:24:03] <Forecaster> oh cool
L250[11:24:10] <Forecaster> you can synthesise limpets
L251[11:24:27] <Syrren> in the new version, yeah
L252[11:24:42] <Syrren> how useful is that synthesis thing? don't you have to SRV around on a planet for ages looking for minable stuffs?
L253[11:25:08] <Forecaster> ships drop materials too
L254[11:25:20] <Forecaster> it's only the higher quality stuff that you really have to look for afik
L255[11:25:34] <Forecaster> ie the rarer minerals used to make enhanced effect stuff
L256[11:26:00] <Syrren> ah
L257[11:26:06] <Syrren> jumponium etc.?
L258[11:26:27] <Forecaster> anything required to produce better-than-default stuff
L259[11:27:04] <Forecaster> "an icon is displayed on the route to show the last scoopable star before running out of fuel"
L260[11:27:05] <Forecaster> awesome
L261[11:27:21] <Forecaster> that's usefu for my long-range passenger missions
L262[11:27:30] <MGR> Syrren, I think you mean unobtanium
L263[11:27:30] <Forecaster> which is a really good way to make money by the way
L264[11:27:33] <Michiyo> But there were no icons, so we all died.
L265[11:34:16] <Syrren> @MGR jumponium is one of the ways to temporarily increase your jump range in E:D
L266[11:34:19] <Syrren> the other way being neutron stars
L267[11:34:48] <MGR> Yes, but http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Unobtainium
L268[11:37:01] <Syrren> yeah, I know
L269[11:37:09] <MGR> ?
L270[11:37:50] * gamax92 burns @MGR
L271[11:37:57] <MGR> Noooooooooooo
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L273[11:50:48] <Kodos> I asked my swedish buddy what the advantages of living in Sweden were, and all he says to me is "Well the flag's a big plus"
L274[11:51:12] <MGR> Heh
L275[11:51:14] <payonel> Kodos: ha
L276[11:52:59] <Forecaster> that and the meatballs
L277[11:53:29] <gamax92> payonel: help
L278[11:53:53] <payonel> yeah?
L279[11:53:57] <gamax92> thanks
L280[11:57:00] <Vexatos> Pfft Germany has very good meatballs too
L281[11:57:07] <Vexatos> with onions \:D/
L282[11:59:40] <gamax92> Vexatos: Germany has good cheesecake
L283[12:00:32] <Vexatos> yes, yes it does
L284[12:00:41] <Vexatos> especially the extremely cheap one from the supermarket
L285[12:01:02] <Vexatos> it's like mortar in your stomach but tastes nice :⁾
L286[12:03:12] <gamax92> uhh
L287[12:03:22] <gamax92> No thank you
L288[12:08:04] <payonel> it also has super good jogurt
L289[12:08:24] <Vexatos> yes yes, Germany generally is good at dairy products
L290[12:08:34] <Vexatos> and meat products
L291[12:08:34] <Vexatos> and bread
L292[12:08:35] <Vexatos> ._.
L293[12:08:50] * Temia scrolls up
L294[12:08:53] <Vexatos> basically, anything you might be eating if this was 200 years ago
L295[12:08:53] * Temia groans.
L296[12:09:25] * gamax92 pets Temia
L297[12:09:33] * Temia leans and tailswishes lazily
L298[12:26:16] <20kdc> Meat products? What kind?
L299[12:26:28] <Forecaster> soylent green?
L300[12:26:31] <20kdc> Aaaah.
L301[12:26:34] <20kdc> Big fan of that.
L302[12:26:36] <Corded> * <20kdc> noms some
L303[12:27:25] <Vexatos> Big game, and generally sausages
L304[12:52:16] <gamax92> %lua bug
L305[12:52:17] <MichiBot> nil
L306[12:52:24] <gamax92> %lua bug=-0
L307[12:52:27] <gamax92> %lua bug == 0
L308[12:52:27] <MichiBot> true
L309[12:52:31] <gamax92> %lua 1/0
L310[12:52:31] <MichiBot> inf
L311[12:52:32] <gamax92> %lua 1/bug
L312[12:52:32] <MichiBot> -inf
L313[12:52:43] <gamax92> *panic ensues*
L314[12:53:36] <MGR> Error! Division by Zero
L315[12:54:18] <Corded> * <Forecaster> gets absorbed into the singularity
L316[12:55:42] <MGR> Waaaaaaaaaaaarg
L317[12:57:22] <payonel> %lua 1/(0-0)
L318[12:57:22] <MichiBot> inf
L319[12:57:30] <payonel> %lua 1/(0+bug)
L320[12:57:30] <MichiBot> inf
L321[12:57:38] <payonel> %lua 1/(bug)
L322[12:57:39] <MichiBot> -inf
L323[12:57:41] <vifino> hi
L324[12:57:41] <payonel> huh
L325[12:57:46] <payonel> %lua 1/(-0+bug)
L326[12:57:46] <MichiBot> -inf
L327[12:57:49] <payonel> :)
L328[12:58:42] <gamax92> hey vifino
L329[12:58:54] <vifino> hello gamax92
L330[12:59:12] <Izaya> o/ vifino
L331[12:59:29] <gamax92> %lua string.format("0x%08x", math.random(0, 2^32-1))
L332[12:59:30] <MichiBot> 0x0a0e46ce
L333[12:59:30] <vifino> \o Izaya
L334[12:59:41] <gamax92> %lua string.format("0x%08x", math.random(0, 2^32-1))
L335[12:59:41] <MichiBot> 0x7009047c
L336[12:59:48] <gamax92> these values suck.
L337[12:59:54] <Izaya> I have successfully failed life today
L338[13:00:00] <Izaya> maybe tomorrow will be better
L339[13:00:03] <Forecaster> do the values represent a vacuum?
L340[13:00:05] <Izaya> how's stuff?
L341[13:00:57] <S3> whee
L342[13:02:45] <vifino> I've flown my quad a bit more just now. It's really dark, so I had to stop, given that even in the black and white mode of my CCD I couldn't tell a tree from grass or even air.
L343[13:04:35] <S3> vifino: my friends over at the lab wrote openCV blind edge detection software
L344[13:04:44] <S3> you could use it on the quad FPV and see everything just fine
L345[13:04:54] <S3> it literally works in near pitch darkness
L346[13:05:16] <S3> it was part of a research project on people who lose their contrast vision
L347[13:07:55] <vifino> S3: Too much latency.
L348[13:11:15] <gamax92> vifino: infrared?
L349[13:12:21] <gamax92> err ... I'm thinking of the wrong thing.
L350[13:21:33] <vifino> gamax92: my ccd is filtered, otherwise colors would look awful in daylight
L351[13:22:40] <S3> vifino: latency? I dunno, he made it super fast
L352[13:22:53] <S3> he took like an entire semester optimizing it because of that issue
L353[13:23:10] <S3> but it may still be too much for a microcontroller
L354[13:24:06] <Izaya> dropped my phone in the sink while washing up
L355[13:24:14] <S3> fun
L356[13:24:14] <Izaya> didn't even stop playing music
L357[13:24:16] <S3> :D
L358[13:24:25] <Izaya> was rather quiet tho
L359[13:27:41] <Forecaster> it may have been less quiet if you also plunged your head into the sink
L360[13:27:55] <vifino> S3: A few milliseconds is already too much.
L361[13:28:20] <S3> heh
L362[13:28:29] <S3> a few you probably wouldn't even notice
L363[13:28:32] <S3> if it were < 10
L364[13:28:41] <vifino> You sure about that?
L365[13:28:55] <S3> < 10? yes
L366[13:29:14] <S3> our minecraft server does ticks a little less than 10 ms apart
L367[13:29:16] <S3> and you can't tell
L368[13:29:22] <S3> "fast enough"
L369[13:29:26] <vifino> Not the same.
L370[13:30:42] <vifino> Not like you're gonna come anywhere close to that anyways.
L371[13:31:02] <vifino> You have to go from analog -> digital( -> analog) to the display(s).
L372[13:31:03] <Izaya> fuck yogurt
L373[13:31:16] <S3> who says?
L374[13:31:18] <S3> :D
L375[13:31:26] <S3> do it 100% analog
L376[13:31:45] <vifino> Right, because opencv is totally analog.
L377[13:31:53] <S3> we'll make a new openvv
L378[13:31:56] <S3> cv*
L379[13:32:07] <S3> 100% analog, we'll build it using vacuum tubes
L380[13:32:08] <vifino> Are you even listening to yourself?
L381[13:32:10] <Forecaster> with blackjack
L382[13:32:26] <S3> vifino: of course not, because I'm in ridiculous mode
L383[13:32:40] <vifino> You always are.
L384[13:32:53] <S3> fort6h on a zpu is not ridiculous
L385[13:32:59] <S3> it's actually very fitting
L386[13:33:21] <vifino> Then go ahead, I am waiting.
L387[13:33:29] <S3> I'm working on it
L388[13:36:50] <S3> although I wish that 20kdc's assembler was a bit more feature full
L389[13:36:54] <S3> I might end up writing my own
L390[13:37:17] <vifino> The one included in ZBC or a seperate one?
L391[13:38:57] <vifino> S3:
L392[13:39:06] <S3> yes
L393[13:39:30] <S3> for creating the dictionary, etc it would be nice to have an origin and even better macros
L394[13:39:36] <vifino> ... Great answer to a question which shouldn't be answered with yes or no.
L395[13:39:51] <vifino> The ZBC one?
L396[13:39:56] <S3> yes
L397[13:40:00] <S3> it does work
L398[13:40:16] <vifino> Make one in B.
L399[13:40:21] <S3> rofl
L400[13:40:25] <S3> I actually don't know B
L401[13:40:38] <vifino> B is like C, execpt everything is a string.
L402[13:46:17] <S3> I should look at the computech source and see where the program is loaded into memory..
L403[13:46:28] <S3> I need a good picture of the memory map in order to do what I have to do
L404[13:46:46] <vifino> Well, technically, there is no direct code loading.
L405[13:46:53] <S3> oh?
L406[13:47:03] <S3> is it harvard?
L407[13:47:11] <vifino> You have persistant memory which you flash your binary to.
L408[13:47:33] <vifino> No, it has a single pathway.
L409[13:47:33] <S3> alright. is that persistant memory mapped to main memory?
L410[13:47:36] <S3> somewhere
L411[13:47:41] <vifino> It's not harvard.
L412[13:47:56] <S3> can still be mapped :P
L413[13:48:07] <vifino> It's Von Neumann, sir.
L414[13:48:21] <S3> so then it's likely mapped somewhere
L415[13:48:27] <vifino> The persistant memory IS the RAM.
L416[13:48:39] <vifino> It just doesn't reset on power off.
L417[13:48:56] <S3> the STM32 ARM SoC does this
L418[13:48:59] <vifino> It's mapped based on what setup you have in your world.
L419[13:49:02] <S3> it maps the flash to a location in memory
L420[13:49:28] <vifino> memory starts from 0, ends at however much memory you have.
L421[13:49:53] <vifino> That is, really, just the IP starts at 0, everything else is up to you.
L422[13:50:03] <S3> that part makes sense, though I will need to somehow determine where in memory it is loaded, and where in memory other stuff is, so that I know where "general purpose memory" is
L423[13:50:23] <vifino> You load your bin starting at 0...
L424[13:50:32] <S3> ok. that's similar to stm32
L425[13:51:49] <S3> so I need some sort of macro support added to the zbc assembler then so I can know how big the binary is and where the rest starts. is persistent memory fized size or dynamicly fit to the size of the bin?
L426[13:52:00] <S3> i.e. is there a fixed persistent memory region
L427[13:52:22] <vifino> No, the memory is as big as you have it set up..
L428[13:52:42] <S3> ill have to test it out in creative I guess
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L432[14:12:43] <S3> Izaya: I just got your maine horror question
L433[14:13:20] <S3> Izaya: so, 1) Maine has the least population density of any state east of the misssissippi river
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L435[14:14:18] <S3> so pretty much the entire east half of the US
L436[14:14:39] <S3> 2) Maine is almost entirely woodland
L437[14:14:42] <S3> dense woodland
L438[14:16:01] <S3> don't listen to MGR though
L439[14:16:05] <S3> MGR knows nothing about Maine
L440[14:16:16] <S3> but he got the first couple things right
L441[14:16:47] <S3> Izaya: Maine is said to have the strongest regional culture attributes in the US.
L442[14:17:06] <S3> this is funny because, it's very easy to pick out the "southerners" but not so easy to pick out the mainers
L443[14:17:51] <Izaya> S3: >implying I listen to MGR
L444[14:18:01] <Izaya> so, not many people, mostly forest
L445[14:18:18] <Izaya> does it get foggy there a lot?
L446[14:18:24] <S3> we're very old in our ways and stubborn, we're more purpose oriented than materialistic, so we're a bit strange to a lot of outsiders
L447[14:18:42] <S3> sometimes but it's not like london
L448[14:19:03] <S3> we have really deep valleys in our roads, etc for fog to build up in the mornings and evenings
L449[14:19:22] <S3> it's hard to find a flat road in Maine
L450[14:21:19] <S3> here's what main street in millinocket looks like:
L451[14:21:20] <S3> https://www.google.com/maps/@45.7530455,-69.3520614,3a,75y,354.84h,85.7t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sPz6YaFRj1hM0Ak7_APG4Wg!2e0!7i3328!8i1664?hl=en
L452[14:21:23] <S3> have a gander at that
L453[14:21:29] <S3> is that what your main street looks like?
L454[14:22:28] <Izaya> ours has uh
L455[14:22:33] <Izaya> buildings
L456[14:22:37] <Izaya> and flood marks
L457[14:23:11] <S3> oh
L458[14:23:16] <S3> what's a flood?
L459[14:23:23] <S3> :P
L460[14:23:32] <S3> we actually have a couple towns that flood a little but
L461[14:24:20] <S3> http://www.kokadjo.com/images/moose/kokadjosign-moose-1.jpg
L462[14:24:22] <S3> Kokadjo!
L463[14:25:53] <S3> theres a sign on the other side of that town that says population 3 instead
L464[14:25:59] <S3> Izaya: ^
L465[14:26:32] <Izaya> 3
L466[14:26:35] <S3> Izaya: but we also have really cool shit
L467[14:26:44] <S3> in EAST millinocket:
L468[14:26:45] <S3> http://q1065.fm/files/2014/12/millinocket-630x420.jpg
L469[14:27:14] <S3> which is a city
L470[14:27:34] <S3> population 1,723
L471[14:27:52] <S3> it's one of our bigger towns
L472[14:28:16] <S3> Izaya: a lot of our towns don't have names
L473[14:28:21] <S3> they are instead numbered by quadrant
L474[14:29:29] <S3> like PE035-19801
L475[14:29:34] <S3> which is north of here by like 10 mins
L476[14:29:44] <S3> the locals call it argule
L477[14:29:46] <S3> argyle*
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L479[14:39:19] <payonel> Inari: https://purrli.com/
L480[14:42:38] <Forecaster> It's not genuine without claws
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L482[14:46:00] <Izaya> S3: seems impersonal
L483[15:00:02] <Kodos> A transposer can be used in a microcontroller, can't they?
L484[15:02:23] <Forecaster> Yes
L485[15:03:38] <Kodos> okay, now I just need to work out some sorcery with a furnace and comparator stuff
L486[15:03:58] <Kodos> Vex you around?
L487[15:04:10] <Kodos> (I have a colorful lamp question)
L488[15:05:10] <Vexatos> Maybe I'm asquare D:
L489[15:05:29] <Kodos> What strength of redstone T2 do I need to feed the lamp to get red and green
L490[15:05:42] <Kodos> err colors or w/e
L491[15:05:50] <Vexatos> ...you mean bundled redstone?
L492[15:05:52] <Kodos> Yes
L493[15:05:53] <Kodos> that
L494[15:05:56] <Vexatos> 15 bit RGB
L495[15:05:59] <Vexatos> every colour is one bit
L496[15:06:02] <Vexatos> black is ignored
L497[15:06:04] <Vexatos> white is the first bit
L498[15:06:09] <Vexatos> normal wool order
L499[15:06:32] <Kodos> okay, now assume I'm a moron and don't understand how 15 bit RGB works
L500[15:06:34] <Vexatos> so you need fifteen bundled redstone channels
L501[15:06:47] <Vexatos> It's RRRRRGGGGGBBBBB
L502[15:07:04] <Kodos> Okay, that's easy enough I suppose
L503[15:28:51] <Kodos> Vex, turns out it's BBBBBGGGGGRRRRR
L504[15:31:37] <Kodos> ~w custom OS
L505[15:31:37] <ocdoc> Predicted http://ocd.cil.li/tutorial:custom_oses
L506[15:38:05] <Kodos> Okay, so comparator value of 2 for working, 0 for not working
L507[15:38:24] <Kodos> And 1 for no fuel
L508[15:38:25] <Kodos> Neat
L509[15:58:24] <Kodos> Wheeeee, it works ?
L510[15:58:39] <Kodos> Now to fix the colors and then clean up the code
L511[16:00:07] <Kodos> Is there any way to control the light on the Microcontroller
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L518[16:51:46] <iisu> Hi. How do I use shell.execute()?
L519[16:51:46] <iisu> I can't tell what exact error it shows cause my game just crashed (unrelated) and I'm going to bed soon.
L520[16:51:49] <iisu> But it was something about 6th argument to xpexec() being nil, iirc.
L521[16:52:32] <iisu> Or is there other simple way of 3dprinting multiple blocks?
L522[16:53:46] <iisu> What I tried to do was simply shell.execute("print3d" .. filename) in a loop.
L523[16:55:52] <iisu> OBTW, I installed OpenOS and Plan9k on a single machine (2 drives) and installed oppm on both but I can't see it on OpenOS. I had to link it from the other drive with Plan9k installed.
L524[16:57:23] <payonel> iisu: o/
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L526[16:57:44] <payonel> iisu: "print3d"..filename
L527[16:57:53] <payonel> %lua filename="foobar" return "print3d"..filename
L528[16:57:53] <MichiBot> print3dfoobar
L529[16:57:56] <payonel> ^
L530[16:58:45] <payonel> your oppm issue is confusing :) sounds like you didn't actually install it
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L533[17:00:11] <payonel> iisu: you just left and joined
L534[17:00:16] <payonel> did you see the comments i made?
L535[17:00:59] <iisu> I thought I hadn't installed it so I tried installing it again and still it didn't see it.
L536[17:01:14] <iisu> Sorry, I timed out.
L537[17:01:19] <payonel> did you understand the issue with your "print3d"..filename ?
L538[17:01:53] <payonel> iisu: well i dont know much about how oppm installs, i'm the openos dev. you can ask Vexatos about oppm
L539[17:02:27] <gamax92> I wonder how badly everything will break if I just shift the blend pass down 1.5 pixels
L540[17:02:29] <iisu> Tried it with hardcodded filename "print3d foobar" also, didn't work.
L541[17:02:40] <gamax92> cause only water exists in the blend pass and I want water to be down 1.5 pixels
L542[17:02:41] <Kodos> Do you have a file named foobar?
L543[17:02:56] <payonel> iisu: but it works if you run `print3d foobar` from the shell?
L544[17:02:56] <iisu> Yes.
L545[17:04:00] <Vexatos> payonel, iisu, it just hooks into install.lua
L546[17:04:05] <Vexatos> "install oppm" should do it
L547[17:04:16] <Vexatos> places it in /usr/bin
L548[17:05:16] <iisu> install oppm succeeds and then ls /usr/bin | grep oppm shows nothing, nor does ls /bin | grep oppm
L549[17:06:12] <iisu> At some attempt it said it is already installed but I still couldn't run find it. I don't remember what I did and what exactly happened.
L550[17:06:31] <payonel> iisu: what oc version ?
L551[17:07:46] <iisu> >OpenComputers-MC1.10.2-1.6.2.7.jar
L552[17:07:56] <iisu> I guess 1.6.2.7 is the version.
L553[17:07:57] <Vexatos> that's from last February >_>
L554[17:08:00] <Vexatos> should still work though
L555[17:08:23] <payonel> we'll push a new version within the next couple weeks...probably
L556[17:08:24] <payonel> :)
L557[17:08:27] <payonel> to curse and such
L558[17:08:41] <iisu> I play with a friend on his server. I'll ask him to update it and call you tomorrow if I still have the issues.
L559[17:08:44] <payonel> iisu: but for now, i do recommend using our dev builds. what mc version?
L560[17:09:00] <Vexatos> 1.10.2 >_>
L561[17:09:11] <payonel> http://ci.cil.li/job/OpenComputers-dev-MC1.10/
L562[17:09:12] <iisu> idk, I don't play MC much.
L563[17:09:14] <payonel> Vexatos: ah, duh
L564[17:09:16] <payonel> :)
L565[17:09:21] <iisu> I just installed it the way the friend told me.
L566[17:09:22] <Vexatos> iisu, so what does 'ls /usr/bin' say
L567[17:09:24] <payonel> iisu: you can update with builds from this: http://ci.cil.li/job/OpenComputers-dev-MC1.10/
L568[17:09:29] <iisu> With some "technic" launcher.
L569[17:09:49] <payonel> iisu: answer Vexatos's question. we don't think updating oc will affect your issue
L570[17:10:09] <payonel> iisu: and if you run `print3d foobar` from the shell, does it work?
L571[17:10:11] <iisu> oppm is not on the list, that's all I remember now.
L572[17:10:36] <iisu> The launcher starts up too long to try it now, I'll talk to you tomorrow.
L573[17:10:52] <iisu> If I run print3d foobar it works.
L574[17:11:14] <iisu> I got some nice vertical slabs for me, just hoped to get some more. :>
L575[17:11:40] <iisu> idk why I can't place slabs vertically in MC by default but whatever.
L576[17:12:43] <Vexatos> well, running "install oppm" after inserting the oppm floppy should be working if /usr/bin/oppm.lua doesn't exist
L577[17:12:54] <Vexatos> payonel, can you run it with a -f option to force installation?
L578[17:13:08] <Vexatos> uuuh
L579[17:13:12] <Vexatos> so print3d _is_ installed
L580[17:13:20] <iisu> To make it clear, with a single drive and a single os, OpenOS, it works.
L581[17:13:40] <Vexatos> if you run plan9k on a second drive
L582[17:13:45] <Vexatos> you need to make sure that one is your boot drive
L583[17:13:46] <iisu> If I install oppm on Plan9k first and then on OpenOS on another drive, it only works on Plan9k.
L584[17:14:10] <Vexatos> oppm works on plan9k? ._.
L585[17:14:33] <iisu> Only it doesn't have install so I had to use OpenOS to install it on Plan9k.
L586[17:14:50] <Vexatos> uuh
L587[17:14:55] <Vexatos> it has its own package manager
L588[17:15:04] <Vexatos> and it should give you access to oppm's packages, too
L589[17:15:16] <iisu> oh
L590[17:16:19] <iisu> How are the blocks that I print, BTW? Wouldn't they lag the game or sth?
L591[17:16:20] <Vexatos> it's called mpt and works similar to pacman
L592[17:16:28] <Vexatos> they shouldn't
L593[17:16:40] <Vexatos> they're basically static models just like any other ordinary block
L594[17:16:48] <Vexatos> meaning they only re-render when the chunk re-renders
L595[17:16:54] <Vexatos> just like a fence, or stairs
L596[17:17:06] <iisu> When looking for the solution for vertical slabs I read some post on Microblocks mod saying that Microblocs "tick" the blocks, whatever that means and it causes lag.
L597[17:17:07] <Vexatos> and they shouldn't lag any more than that
L598[17:17:25] <Vexatos> no good microblock mod should be doing that unless necessary
L599[17:17:32] <Vexatos> Modern ones definitely don't do that
L600[17:17:35] <iisu> ok
L601[17:17:56] <Vexatos> I'm pretty sure 3D Prints don't do that >_>
L602[17:18:36] <iisu> It's amazing how many mods there are.
L603[17:21:20] <gamax92> welp nothing broke
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L607[17:23:10] <iisu> wew
L608[17:23:21] <iisu> Never happens to me on other channels.
L609[17:23:44] <iisu> Alright, I'll talk to you when I have a recent version.
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L617[17:46:39] <S3> this zpc spec is being confusing
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L625[20:24:31] <gamax92> S3: trying to get my computer to communicate to a device through a vm and over wifi
L626[20:24:49] <gamax92> device connects to the vm via usb passthrough and hotspot
L627[20:24:57] <gamax92> host can talk to the vm too
L628[20:25:02] <gamax92> host can't talk to device
L629[20:26:00] <gamax92> and I'm out of ideas :D
L630[20:49:04] <gamax92> oh well, I just setup a tcp tunnel in the vm, works for me
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