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L2[01:01:19] <Saphire> I want to too :c
L3[01:24:07] <Izaya> https://a.pomf.cat/efecaj.jpg
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L7[02:09:26] <Saphire> https://en.m.wikisource.org/wiki/Ruize-rijmen/De_Chaos
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L9[03:06:10] <Izaya> huh.
L10[03:06:20] <Izaya> issue I was having with the routing cache is caused by ocemu
L11[03:06:37] <Izaya> source and destination addresses for modem messages are the computer addresses
L12[03:06:38] <Izaya> >.>
L13[03:09:08] <Izaya> alright, well, guess I'll add an option to use a routing cache >.>
L14[03:40:03] <Izaya> >:D
L15[03:40:13] <Izaya> LKR cache works in MC
L16[03:41:51] <Skye> Izaya, but it works in OpenOS, so something with your implementation is odd.
L17[03:43:10] <Izaya> Skye: the events
L18[03:43:12] <Izaya> spawned by ocemu
L19[03:43:25] <Izaya> have computer addresses rather than modem addresses
L20[03:44:26] <Skye> Izaya, but they worked as modem addresses for sending messages so I could reply with them so I didn't notice.
L21[03:44:35] <Skye> What breaks your exact implementation?
L22[03:44:38] <Izaya> uh
L23[03:44:45] <Izaya> I send back on the modem address stuff is recieved from
L24[03:44:53] <Izaya> like, the local modem address
L25[03:45:03] <Izaya> but the local modem address in ocemu events is the computer address
L26[03:45:07] <Izaya> which is not a modem
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L28[03:45:44] <Skye> I don't really get what breaks though? ^^;;
L29[03:46:02] <Izaya> it tries to invoke send
L30[03:46:07] <Izaya> with the local modem address
L31[03:46:17] <Izaya> ie from the event it just got
L32[03:46:28] <Izaya> but the event has the computer address rather than the modem address
L33[03:46:36] <Izaya> and computer components do not have a send function
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L36[04:04:04] <Izaya> in other news, SEBIOS can now load a boot program over the network
L37[04:04:39] <Izaya> muahaha, unified EEPROMs
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L40[04:32:04] <Izaya> wooo maxing my CPU
L41[04:32:08] <Izaya> living on the warm side >.>
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L43[04:35:39] <MalkContent> just as well
L44[04:35:41] <MalkContent> winter is coming
L45[04:36:07] <Izaya> see that's the thing
L46[04:36:08] <MalkContent> or as i called it 8 years ago: crysis time
L47[04:36:09] <Izaya> it's spring now
L48[04:36:22] <Izaya> so
L49[04:36:23] <MalkContent> oh. southern hemisphere?
L50[04:36:29] <Izaya> yup :|
L51[04:36:57] <MalkContent> my sympathies
L52[04:38:43] <Izaya> fun idea
L53[04:38:53] <Izaya> I'm gonna offload transcoding to a more powerful machine
L54[04:42:51] <Skye> Izaya, if my PC's CPU hits 100% load during the summer is BSODs.
L55[04:43:13] <Skye> The thing is... It worked fine with Prime95 during winter.
L56[04:43:39] <Izaya> can't get my desktop's CPU above 75 in summer
L57[04:43:47] <Izaya> laptop will happily hit 95 in winter though
L58[04:44:17] <Skye> My desktop happily reaches 100°C
L59[04:44:43] <Izaya> (I should note, my desktop has an i3. ie two cores.)
L60[04:45:10] <Skye> My desktop has a first generation Haswell i5.
L61[04:45:27] <Izaya> Haswell i3.
L62[04:45:31] <Izaya> <--
L63[04:45:59] <Skye> I wonder if I should try to find Haswell-E i7s for cheap... They are old so must be cheap right?
L64[04:46:07] <Izaya> Nope.
L65[04:46:22] <Izaya> Last I checked even plain haswell stuff still costs the same
L66[04:47:11] <Skye> Uh... Okay...
L67[04:47:25] <Skye> My motherboard is cheap now, tjough
L68[04:51:22] <Izaya> People don't upgrade motherboards once the CPU's out of date :P
L69[04:51:33] <Izaya> (well, I did, but I needed SLI >.> )
L70[04:51:35] <Skye> Izaya, irony: I got one of the two overclockable haswells without VT-d
L71[04:57:06] <Izaya> https://a.pomf.cat/dduilr.webm BEHOLD :D
L72[04:57:08] <Izaya> Skye: ^
L73[04:57:34] <Skye> eigh that video compression
L74[04:58:09] <Izaya> hey man it's just over 3MB
L75[04:58:17] <Izaya> that's down from like 30
L76[04:59:02] <Skye> could you work on a netfs?
L77[04:59:14] <Izaya> already planned
L78[05:00:15] <Skye> could you write overlaying fses?
L79[05:00:25] <Skye> oh wow
L80[05:00:26] <Izaya> probably but it'd be flaky I imagine
L81[05:00:33] <Skye> my CPU is still worth a few hundred pounds
L82[05:00:42] <Izaya> overlay tmpfs over ro netfs?
L83[05:00:55] <Skye> Izaya, yeah
L84[05:01:27] <Izaya> I mean I was just gonna copy /net to /tmp
L85[05:01:47] <Izaya> because if you do it like that you can boot from /tmp if you modify the kernel
L86[05:02:42] <Skye> that'd use up RAM though
L87[05:03:24] <Izaya> nope
L88[05:03:30] <Izaya> /tmp is in hardware
L89[05:03:39] <Skye> oh really?
L90[05:03:41] <Izaya> yup
L91[05:03:48] <Skye> what's it's limits?
L92[05:03:50] <Izaya> a computer with no HDDs or FDDs has one filesystem
L93[05:03:52] <Izaya> 64k
L94[05:04:02] <Skye> hm
L95[05:04:15] <Izaya> which is heaps for PsychOS :3
L96[05:04:30] <Lizzy> looks cool, Izaya
L97[05:04:37] <Izaya> \o/
L98[05:05:07] <Izaya> Lizzy: I'm gonna set up a bunch of network terminals at BTM, have them netboot
L99[05:05:40] <Izaya> have the little hypertext browser and a chat client and stuff
L100[05:05:57] <Lizzy> oh yeah, btm is a thing
L101[05:06:16] <Forecaster> but will they play flash?
L102[05:06:35] <Izaya> Forecaster: no flash, no JS, no CSS, no HTML :3
L103[05:06:39] <Corded> * <Lizzy> throws @Forecaster in the pit for blasphemy
L104[05:06:51] <Forecaster> D:
L105[05:07:25] <Forecaster> but flash is the future!!!!1!
L106[05:07:35] <Izaya> it was the future
L107[05:07:44] <Izaya> before it was the past
L108[05:07:49] <Forecaster> :P
L109[05:10:08] <Skye> will old Intel CPUs ever get cheap
L110[05:10:20] <Izaya> give it a few more years
L111[05:10:22] <Izaya> :D
L112[05:11:27] <Lizzy> they will, but probably when their performance starts becomming bottom-line-esk
L113[05:11:40] <Skye> aw...
L114[05:13:31] <Skye> the problem, if I want to get the next gen, it'd break my hackintosh VM...
L115[05:14:02] <Skye> and also require me to replace everything because DDR4
L116[05:14:03] <Izaya> Skye: got an ultrabay HDD adaptor?
L117[05:14:14] <Skye> Izaya, my thinkpad literally won't fit it
L118[05:14:19] <Izaya> oh :|
L119[05:15:36] <Skye> it's like half the size of the x220
L120[05:15:41] <Izaya> kek
L121[05:16:06] * Skye baps Izaya with the X220
L122[05:16:17] <Mettaton_Fab> old Intel CPUs?
L123[05:16:23] * Izaya waves around his T420
L124[05:16:24] <Mettaton_Fab> which age exactly?
L125[05:16:39] <Skye> @Mettaton_Fab Haswell-E
L126[05:17:01] <Skye> I wish VEGA wasn't as pricey
L127[05:17:16] <Skye> then it'd be a decent upgrade
L128[05:17:28] <Izaya> ryzen is cheap enough
L129[05:17:41] <Izaya> hell, even the new Athlons look okay
L130[05:17:51] <Mettaton_Fab> Haswell-E isnt very old
L131[05:18:31] <Skye> Izaya, my bottleneck is the GPU.
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L133[05:20:00] <Izaya> also, mesh networking at BTM. if I manage to distribute tablets enough 25 would probably be overkill modem range, yeah?
L134[05:23:26] <Izaya> muahaha I can boot tablets wirelessly
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L137[05:41:30] <Lizzy> lol
L138[05:41:55] <Izaya> oh also I fixed the 'no /boot' bug too
L139[05:41:59] <Lizzy> do they have a pre-set address they look for bootable stuff from or is it found through network broadcasts
L140[05:42:18] <Izaya> Lizzy: atm it broadcasts the request
L141[05:42:32] <Lizzy> cool
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L143[05:42:47] <Izaya> the dedicated netboot firmware can use a specific address also but not SEBIOS
L144[05:44:34] <Izaya> (that functionality is plannedtm)
L145[05:46:21] <Lizzy> ooh, i can enable 2FA on the oc forums
L146[05:51:32] <Izaya> next project I guess: port 20kdc's chat program to PsychOS so I can have ingame IRC not actually using IRC for a change
L147[06:43:26] <Inari> Odd observations part 2: When I read "XYZ's daughter" without any information given on the sex of XYZ I tend to think of XYZ as the father. Whereas with "XYZ's son" I tend more to think of the mother.
L148[06:44:12] <g> A lot of people seem to bond better with the opposite sex
L149[06:44:15] <g> In the family at least
L150[06:44:45] <Inari> Sibling relationships \o/
L151[06:47:46] <g> Onii-chaaan
L152[06:47:50] <Inari> AmandaC / payonel: https://twitter.com/videocats/status/904667903483674624
L153[06:47:52] <Inari> g: Yeah :3
L154[06:47:56] <g> lol
L155[06:48:04] <g> I like the name of that account
L156[06:48:05] <MichiBot> Mon Sep 04 06:30:10 CDT 2017 @videocats: https://t.co/lJNSQGWBAs
L157[06:48:05] <g> videocats
L158[06:48:28] <g> Oh, speaking of thinkpads earlier
L159[06:48:29] <g> https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/09/04/retro_thinkpad_spotted_in_the_wild/
L160[06:48:51] <Izaya> o.o
L161[06:49:54] <Izaya> soontm
L162[06:50:01] <Izaya> tfw won't be able to afford it
L163[06:50:27] <g> Didn't realise thinkpads were so popular
L164[06:51:07] <Izaya> Well, they're the best all-round laptops you can buy >.>
L165[06:51:21] <Izaya> we use the cheaper ones at work
L166[06:51:33] <g> ah, I see
L167[06:51:38] <g> I'm not a laptops guy so yknow
L168[06:51:44] <Izaya> mainly because they're solid af
L169[06:52:23] * Izaya shrugs
L170[06:52:32] <Izaya> Also, used ones are cheap so that helps their popularity
L171[06:52:40] <Izaya> got a T420 for a whole $250AUD
L172[06:53:16] <Izaya> I wonder if the retro thinkpad will be able to use UltraBay batteries
L173[06:53:18] <Izaya> I hope so
L174[06:54:26] <Izaya> I miss that compared to some of the older ones :|
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L176[06:54:27] <WatchtowerOrator> Time for a new episode from Forecaster! You're welcome!
L177[06:54:27] <WatchtowerOrator> https://youtu.be/QZCDx2q2Rgg - RailcraftLP [Episode 38] - Re-activation
L178[06:54:27] <WatchtowerOrator> Tags on this video: programming,lua,code,E.V.E,robot,opencomputers,farms,trees
L179[06:54:29] <MichiBot> RailcraftLP- [Episode 38] - Re-activation | length: 27m 36s | Likes: 0 Dislikes: 0 Views: 0 | by Forecaster | Published On 4/9/2017
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L181[06:55:37] <g> that reminds me somehow
L182[06:55:47] <g> anyone know of a pretty cheap tablet for a single use-case?
L183[06:55:59] <g> I literally want to plug it in and leave it running somewhere just running one app forever
L184[06:56:18] <Izaya> how cheap is cheap?
L185[06:56:28] <Izaya> because there's plenty of cheap-ass android tablets new for <$100
L186[06:56:40] <g> I was assuming around that price-point
L187[06:57:04] <Izaya> go into whatever flaky electronics shop and buy whatever's on clearance
L188[06:57:06] <Izaya> it should be fine
L189[06:57:10] <g> haha
L190[06:57:13] <g> CeX it is
L191[06:57:15] <g> ok, thanks
L192[06:57:20] <Izaya> if you want cheaper, ship one from china
L193[06:57:26] <Izaya> about the same chance of it crapping out
L194[06:57:36] <MalkContent> buy a tiny screen and plug it into a raspberry? :x
L195[06:57:45] <g> wouldn't run the app I want
L196[06:57:50] <g> unless there's android I guess
L197[06:57:55] <Izaya> android runs on an RPi
L198[06:58:02] <g> that might be a good idea then
L199[06:58:06] <Izaya> but it'll be more expensive once you get the parts probaly
L200[06:58:16] <g> it'd probably last longer though
L201[06:58:17] <Izaya> though, you're in the US...
L202[06:58:19] * Izaya shrugs
L203[06:58:21] <g> I'm in Ireland
L204[06:58:21] <g> :P
L205[06:58:22] <MalkContent> it might be cheaper to run
L206[06:58:24] <Izaya> ...oh.
L207[06:58:36] <Izaya> I dunno what'll be cheap then.
L208[06:58:41] <MalkContent> power consumption and whatnot
L209[06:59:01] <g> I'm thinking about home automation, by the way
L210[06:59:13] <MalkContent> i have no idea tho. just thought i'd throw out a possibility
L211[06:59:13] <g> so it'd be running the samsung smartthings app
L212[06:59:22] <Izaya> can you get IP-controllable power boards?
L213[06:59:33] <Izaya> I'd really love to be able to switch stuff on and off via like, telnet or something
L214[06:59:54] <g> you can get outlets that you can control like that
L215[07:00:20] <Izaya> that seems convenient
L216[07:00:26] <g> that's gonna factor into my plans actually
L217[07:00:29] <g> z-wave power outlets
L218[07:00:31] <Izaya> though I guess I could just get an arduino and a bunch of relays...
L219[07:00:45] <g> Have you looked into z-wave?
L220[07:00:47] <Izaya> if I'm gonna ethernet the walls anyway I might as well have power control over IP
L221[07:00:59] <Izaya> no?
L222[07:01:03] <Izaya> is it proprietary?
L223[07:01:19] <g> z-wave is an open standard designed for local-only wireless communication at low power levels
L224[07:01:28] <g> supported by a metric shitton of stuff
L225[07:01:28] <Izaya> ooooooo
L226[07:01:39] <g> most home automation systems are based on it
L227[07:01:49] <g> you get a hub and a ton of things that use z-wave and then everything just works
L228[07:01:51] <Izaya> that said literally all I want is IP control for power boards
L229[07:02:04] <Izaya> I have no intention of getting anything else 'smart'
L230[07:02:09] <g> I see
L231[07:02:19] <g> well, that's what I'm gonna do, don't really want the programming overhead
L232[07:02:20] <Izaya> because they're pretty pointless
L233[07:02:29] <g> depends on how you look at it
L234[07:02:39] <g> I can buy a single sensor and put it outside and essentially have a little local weather station
L235[07:03:07] <Izaya> I could query the BOM's website and get weather data and forecasts
L236[07:03:17] <Izaya> and a gif of the clouds
L237[07:03:46] <g> https://aeotec.com/z-wave-sensor
L238[07:03:49] <g> that's the one I'm thinking of
L239[07:03:58] <g> the point of this is it'll fit nicely into everything else I have planned
L240[07:04:31] <g> yes I can build it myself but then I'll have to spend probably a few days of dev time fitting it into the network
L241[07:04:45] <g> and it'll be less locally relevant
L242[07:04:54] * Izaya needs to look into hooking up a webcam for the front door
L243[07:05:10] <g> august has a lock and doorbell system for that
L244[07:05:10] <Izaya> can use one of the S10es to stream and record video
L245[07:05:13] <g> no z-wave though sadly
L246[07:05:25] <Izaya> hell, it even has wifi because it's a shitty laptop
L247[07:06:14] * Izaya is not a fan of the internet of useless shit
L248[07:06:33] <g> this isn't really an internet thing unless you make it so
L249[07:06:53] <g> which is nice because most z-wave devices uses 128-bit AES encryption locally
L250[07:06:58] <g> the attack surface is only as big as you make it
L251[07:07:05] <Izaya> so are they running free as in freedom firmware?
L252[07:07:25] <g> that's a good question actually
L253[07:07:35] <Izaya> that's my big thing tbh
L254[07:07:44] <g> you can buy stuff from the org in charge of the z-wave spec if you like, I imagine you can hack on those if you want
L255[07:07:56] <Izaya> if it has an issue and it can't be fixed because the manufacturer is a twat that's pretty shit
L256[07:08:09] <Izaya> also vulns
L257[07:08:28] <Izaya> slower fixes in nonfree stuff :|
L258[07:08:37] <Izaya> (if you get a fix at all)
L259[07:08:38] <g> it looks like the manufacturer does it
L260[07:08:48] <g> but if they conform to the spec it's all automatic at least
L261[07:09:01] <Izaya> automatic updates?
L262[07:09:04] <g> the hub is able to push out firmware updates to devices
L263[07:09:07] <Temia> If you don't, then grab a deck and go to town, chummer
L264[07:09:28] <g> I think samsung's smartthings has a groovy scripting interface? haven't looked into it too much yet
L265[07:09:44] <g> the standard itself is open though, you can even get a z-wave USB stick, so you could probably do it yourself if you wanted
L266[07:09:54] <Izaya> is groovy an adjective or a noun in that sentence
L267[07:09:58] <g> noun
L268[07:10:01] <g> ever worked with gradle?
L269[07:10:08] <Izaya> that's a java thing yes
L270[07:10:11] <Izaya> ?
L271[07:10:17] <Temia> Yes.
L272[07:10:22] <g> gradle? it's a build system
L273[07:10:26] <Izaya> because I avoid java
L274[07:10:31] <g> not just for java actually
L275[07:10:34] <g> but it can replace maven yes
L276[07:10:41] <g> anyway the language it uses is called Groovy
L277[07:10:49] <Temia> But usually only ever seen with Java.
L278[07:11:00] <g> I've seen it with python a few times, amusingly
L279[07:11:02] <g> http://groovy-lang.org/
L280[07:11:14] <Temia> With Python?!
L281[07:11:17] <Temia> wtf.
L282[07:11:27] <g> there are reasons you'd need a build script with python
L283[07:11:31] <g> wouldn't use groovy though
L284[07:11:39] <g> er, gradle
L285[07:12:15] <Temia> Python's own build tools are usually good enough >_>
L286[07:12:24] <g> anyway, smartthings has a huge developer community and I see groovy files thrown around
L287[07:12:40] <g> python's own build tools are usually fine if all you're working with is python yes
L288[07:12:56] <Temia> Can always extend them :v
L289[07:13:04] <g> I dunno if I'd want to write a JS minifier
L290[07:13:09] <g> might as well just integrate babel
L291[07:14:02] <Skye> I wonder if Scala native will be any good
L292[07:14:09] <Temia> Anyway what was I saying
L293[07:14:34] <g> you were saying "yes it's a java thing"
L294[07:14:36] <g> brb
L295[07:14:44] <Temia> No, before that.
L296[07:15:08] <Temia> Oh right, I was being an insufferable Shadowrun nerd
L297[07:15:31] <Izaya> :D
L298[07:16:09] <Temia> But yeah, good to secure your PAN before the drek hits the fan
L299[07:17:47] <Izaya> I have no smart devices, WPA2, and will soon have two ethernet networks (one encrypted, one for guests)
L300[07:17:56] <Izaya> actually, make that will soon have two wifi networks
L301[07:18:09] <Izaya> (one for anything secure, the other for Windows and OS X boxes)
L302[07:18:57] <g> We'll be wiring our new house with cat7
L303[07:19:02] <g> gon' be good
L304[07:19:04] <Izaya> cat7
L305[07:19:22] <Izaya> can that do like
L306[07:19:25] * Izaya thinks
L307[07:19:27] <Izaya> 1Tbps?
L308[07:19:35] <g> it's 10Gbps
L309[07:19:49] <g> I don't think we have anything faster yet
L310[07:22:04] <g> yeah, 10,000 Mbps @ 600 MHz
L311[07:24:00] <MalkContent> wat
L312[07:24:02] <MalkContent> wireless?
L313[07:24:14] <MalkContent> a, nvm
L314[07:24:40] <g> need to find a switch though
L315[07:24:45] <g> that's gonna be the thing
L316[07:24:55] <g> and I imagine the most expensive part of the network
L317[07:24:58] <Izaya> tfw still 10/100
L318[07:25:20] <g> I'm expecting like
L319[07:25:21] <g> 5000 euro
L320[07:25:25] <g> I hope I'm wrong lol
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L322[07:47:29] <Wuerfel_21> Quick, does anyone know whether a relay also lets power pass through?
L323[07:48:12] <Forecaster> it does not
L324[07:48:40] <Wuerfel_21> well shit
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L326[07:52:09] <Izaya> use a power distributor for that
L327[08:30:51] <Saphire> Hey Inari
L328[08:30:55] <Saphire> http://imgur.com/gallery/A6k4y I bet you know all of those :D
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L330[08:39:49] <Inari> Saphire: Can't say I know any of them
L331[09:01:59] <Forecaster> uh
L332[09:02:14] <Forecaster> I think Corded is doing a weird
L333[09:02:33] <Forecaster> @Michiyo
L334[09:03:33] <Forecaster> it's way behind and is sending bunches of 5 messages at a time to discord
L335[09:04:31] <S3> Forecaster: it's being corded
L336[09:04:54] <Mimiru> sounds like it's maybe hit an API throttle
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L338[09:08:16] <Forecaster> yeah probably
L339[09:08:26] <Forecaster> it's sending a bunch about every 8 minutes
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L342[09:16:52] <temporary_2847> Is anyone here?
L343[09:16:57] <Forecaster> no
L344[09:19:16] <Inari> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DI4r6cTXoAA3zdn.jpg:large
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L346[09:22:05] <temporary_2847> Okay, may I ask a question? It seems to me that I can't access Ender Chest using OpenComputers tools (robot, transposer, adapter with inventory controller). Is this intended?
L347[09:22:29] <Inari> which Enderchest?
L348[09:22:38] <temporary_2847> Vanilla one.
L349[09:22:44] <Inari> Well it's bound to characters
L350[09:22:47] <Inari> So yes
L351[09:22:54] <Inari> OC isn't really a character :D
L352[09:23:42] <temporary_2847> Well, I thought computers and robots knew who placed them, since you can add them to private and all that.
L353[09:24:03] <temporary_2847> But this is not unexpected. Thanks for your help.
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L358[09:35:41] <Mimiru> Test
L359[09:35:46] <Mimiru> Test
L360[09:35:55] <Mimiru> it's slow.. but not near as bad..
L361[09:41:14] <Mimiru> oooh damn it..
L362[09:41:25] <Mimiru> the gamerscape wiki doesn't have the X/Y coords for hunts..
L363[09:41:29] <Mimiru> ...
L364[09:43:59] <Forecaster> it doesn't?
L365[09:44:43] <Mimiru> Well, if it does, it's not in the json.. lol
L366[09:46:40] <Forecaster> the locations have positions in their pages
L367[09:48:19] <Forecaster> I could potentially fetch them from there
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L369[10:03:23] <Temia> I tend to rely on external hunt maps, myself >.>a
L370[10:16:15] <Forecaster> probably not worth the effort then if it's easy to look up
L371[10:22:06] <Mimiru> I'll just manually enter them
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L376[10:39:34] <Mimiru> cause my plan is, is to have a small popup map with a point at the x/y in the json.. lol
L377[10:48:58] <Inari> https://twitter.com/TMobile/status/904459431215218689 o.o
L378[10:49:00] <MichiBot> Sun Sep 03 16:41:47 CDT 2017 @TMobile: @arkadiyt It's all about security, Arkadiy! Let's keep it locked down. ? Even the longest passwords may be easy to guess. *KeithM
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L380[10:55:27] <S3> boo json
L381[10:56:12] <Mimiru> boo S3
L382[10:56:25] <S3> msgpack is nice
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L387[11:10:29] <gamax92> Izaya: Regret intensifies for not having written any of the modem code myself
L388[11:10:51] <openCRelay3> can wget be used to fetch a file from another oc computer? (on the same server/sp world)
L389[11:15:49] <Inari> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DI5ILh0UMAExVhv.jpg:large lots of cats
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L391[11:46:45] <Forecaster> openCRelay3, no, the files are not exposed to the internet
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L395[11:49:55] <openCRelay3> ok, so i need to write a file or web server in lua then? like ftp or perhaps TFTP?
L396[11:50:16] <openCRelay3> i didn't find a OPPM packet or project with similar functionality
L397[11:50:37] <openCRelay3> (I just want to stop using pastebin and wget and do it less meta, meaning all in game)
L398[11:51:17] <Forecaster> you can send the contents over the network?
L399[11:51:41] <openCRelay3> i can?
L400[11:52:00] <Forecaster> read file, include contents in network message?
L401[11:52:05] <Forecaster> receive, write to file
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L404[11:53:39] <openCRelay3> that sounds like it's way over my head
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L406[11:54:33] <openCRelay3> or is it kinda as simple as modem.open and broadcast?
L407[11:54:39] <openCRelay3> "simple"
L408[11:54:41] <Forecaster> it's not that hard
L409[11:55:32] <openCRelay3> i will read up on network cards, modem component then
L410[11:56:01] <openCRelay3> i could also use that with my drones i guess, to make them do stuff in a synced manner
L411[11:57:01] <gamax92> make a system that writes a filesystem to a tape, tells a robot/drone(?) to transfer the tape to another computer, and then the other computer reads the data off the tape
L412[11:58:03] <openCRelay3> tape? why not floppy disks (which i have)
L413[11:58:13] <Forecaster> maybe https://github.com/OpenPrograms/Fingercomp-Programs/tree/master/net-flash
L414[11:59:21] <gamax92> tapes can store a lot more data than a floppy disk could
L415[11:59:39] <openCRelay3> I have something similar already Corded
L416[11:59:47] <Forecaster> that's not my name
L417[11:59:47] <gamax92> Corded is a discord relay bot
L418[11:59:53] <gamax92> the one who spoke to you is Forecaster
L419[11:59:54] <openCRelay3> haha
L420[12:00:16] <openCRelay3> ok, everything looks kinda weird in this openos irc
L421[12:01:02] <gamax92> try using wocchat instead
L422[12:01:43] <openCRelay3> gamax92 having drones fly around with tapes may be cool, but a working network feels more practical
L423[12:02:54] <openCRelay3> installing wocchat now
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L425[12:04:03] <AmandaC> %choose br or lr
L426[12:04:04] <MichiBot> AmandaC: lr
L427[12:04:16] * AmandaC wanders off to the wilds
L428[12:04:24] <Mimiru> s/br/<br>/
L429[12:04:25] <MichiBot> <openCRelay3> or is it kinda as simple as modem.open and <br>oadcast?
L430[12:04:31] <Mimiru> lol.. oops
L431[12:04:42] <Mimiru> right.. commands are ignored for SED
L432[12:04:55] <Forecaster> xD
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L434[12:05:08] <ocRelayWo93> oh
L435[12:05:12] <ocRelayWo93> this looks nice
L436[12:05:29] <ocRelayWo93> WocChat that is
L437[12:05:52] <gamax92> Yep
L438[12:06:05] <ocRelayWo93> think i should upgrade my cpu though
L439[12:06:08] <ocRelayWo93> only tier 1
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L441[12:06:20] <gamax92> oh
L442[12:06:42] <Mimiru> poor derp.. IRCing on a T1..
L443[12:06:43] <Mimiru> lol
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L445[12:06:58] <ocRelayWo93> there we go
L446[12:08:25] <gamax92> I've never tried wocchat on a T1 ... actually wocchat does not run on a T1 system it will yell at you
L447[12:08:35] <gamax92> and if it doesn't yell at you that's a bug
L448[12:08:48] <ocRelayWo93> i had a tier 3 case with a tier 1 cpu
L449[12:10:16] <ocRelayWo93> and T2 screen and gpu
L450[12:12:53] <Forecaster> but did it tell you about the T1 cpu?
L451[12:14:29] <ocRelayWo93> no, i switched because the user name scroll was slow
L452[12:14:41] <Forecaster> gamax92 so bug then :P
L453[12:15:25] <gamax92> T1 cpu is not an issue
L454[12:15:41] <Forecaster> oh
L455[12:15:55] <Forecaster> I thought that's what you meant by system
L456[12:35:27] <gamax92> oh
L457[12:35:28] <gamax92> thanks AmandaC
L458[12:35:36] <AmandaC> Meow?
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L461[12:50:55] <Inari> %pet AmandaC
L462[12:50:56] * MichiBot brushes AmandaC with a big transistor. AmandaC recovers 1 health!
L463[12:55:01] * AmandaC prods gamax92 with a quantum-entangled photon
L464[12:55:54] <gamax92> no
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L544[13:36:00] <Forecaster> gamax prodded Amanda with a quantum-entangled no
L545[13:37:01] <AmandaC> %choose update telegram kittiesbot or meh
L546[13:37:02] <MichiBot> AmandaC: update telegram kittiesbot
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L553[14:01:08] <Mettaton_Fab> a kittiesbot?
L554[14:01:13] <Mettaton_Fab> man, i need that
L555[14:14:27] <Kodos> I need a rack mounted chatbox
L556[14:15:54] <Forecaster> @Vexatos
L557[14:15:55] <Forecaster> :P
L558[14:18:58] <Vexatos> :I
L559[14:19:07] <Vexatos> He just wants a rack-mounted everything
L560[14:19:24] <Forecaster> I'll take a rack-mount with extra everything too
L561[14:19:25] <Forecaster> :D
L562[14:19:55] <Kodos> Not everything
L563[14:19:56] <Forecaster> rack-mounted drones
L564[14:20:03] <CompanionCube> rack-mounted Vexatos?
L565[14:20:03] <Kodos> Just a chatbox and relay
L566[14:20:14] <Kodos> And RAID
L567[14:20:22] <Kodos> Those 3 would be fine, and still make sense
L568[14:20:31] <Forecaster> drones that can dock in a rack would be cool
L569[14:20:32] <Kodos> Okay, maybe the chatbox wouldn't but the other two do
L570[14:20:57] <Kodos> Honestly, I've been getting more and more into PneumaticCraft drones
L571[14:21:05] <Kodos> They can do just about anything I need OC drones to do, easier
L572[14:21:09] <Forecaster> they're pretty neat
L573[14:21:30] <Forecaster> way overpowered in comparison though
L574[14:21:44] <Kodos> Only because of how easy it is to program them
L575[14:21:49] <Forecaster> no...
L576[14:21:54] <Forecaster> they can literally teleport
L577[14:22:14] <Forecaster> for a flat energy cost
L578[14:22:21] <Kodos> Well, I mean sure they can, but I don't use the feature
L579[14:22:42] <Forecaster> they'll teleport automatically if no valid path is found, wether you want them to or not
L580[14:22:44] <Forecaster> :P
L581[14:22:59] <Forecaster> and that includes trying to path through unloaded chunks
L582[14:23:23] <Forecaster> but yeah, I still used em a lot in my LP
L583[14:23:41] <Forecaster> also guns
L584[14:23:46] <Forecaster> miniguns
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L587[14:41:24] <MalkContent> iirc i had to keep an eye on those drones in my crashlanding playthrough
L588[14:41:32] <MalkContent> something kept going wrong eventually
L589[14:41:56] <MalkContent> i forgot what, though
L590[14:42:03] <MalkContent> just remember being a bit annoyed by it
L591[14:42:35] <MalkContent> whereas i have had 0 problems with oc drones
L592[14:42:44] <MalkContent> i trust those more than oc's robots :D
L593[14:43:53] <Forecaster> probably you programming them wrong if I were to guess
L594[14:44:12] <Forecaster> the only issue I've had with them is them getting stuck on non-full blocks
L595[14:45:11] <MalkContent> maybe. as i said i don't remember
L596[14:46:48] <MalkContent> but i am almost certain it didn't have to do with the programming
L597[14:47:30] <MalkContent> the annoyance has it pegged more as a technical issue. along the lines of chunkloading fuckups and stuff like that
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L603[15:38:45] <Inari> https://simg4.gelbooru.com//images/93/46/934601455151fec43aafa438248205f6.png what magnificent steeds :P
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L605[15:52:00] <20kdc> Warning. Supporting the weight of another human may be harmful to your back.
L606[15:52:06] <20kdc> Warning. Supporting the weight of another human may be harmful to your back.
L607[15:52:37] <20kdc> Warning. Supporting the weight of another human(?) may be harmful to your back.
L608[15:55:48] <Skye> some people might enjoy that...
L609[16:11:32] <Lizzy> yes!
L610[16:11:34] <Lizzy> oops
L611[16:19:05] <Forecaster> "Did I say that out loud"
L612[16:25:27] * Temia sighs
L613[16:25:30] * Temia spraybottles Inari :T
L614[16:25:47] <Inari> D:
L615[16:25:50] <Inari> Temia: Why!
L616[16:26:07] * Temia points at the picture :T
L617[16:26:12] <Inari> :D
L618[16:26:18] <Inari> It's not that bad
L619[16:26:19] <Inari> :|
L620[16:26:19] * Temia SPRAYBOTTLE
L621[16:26:36] <Temia> It is totally that bad. >_>
L622[16:26:47] <Inari> D:
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L625[16:35:43] <Inari> Temia: I'm a fox, not a cat :<
L626[16:39:58] <Temia> The point still gets across D:
L627[16:40:39] <Inari> :|
L628[16:40:43] <Inari> %pet Temia
L629[16:40:43] <Inari> :P
L630[16:40:44] * MichiBot pets Temia with chainsaw. Temia recovers 3 health!
L631[16:41:34] <Izaya> seems like you'd lose health from that...
L632[16:45:13] <Temia> Minotaurs care not for little details like that `-`
L633[16:52:06] * gamax92 pets Temia with a brush
L634[16:52:12] <AmandaC> @Mettaton_Fab @KittiesBot#2921 it responds to pm, the UI to make it join a group isn't ready yet, because I keep changing my mind on how it should work.
L635[16:52:40] <AmandaC> either `show me a kitty` or `!kitty` will work in pm.
L636[16:52:45] <gamax92> %choose group plan A or group plan B
L637[16:52:46] <MichiBot> gamax92: group plan A
L638[16:53:35] * AmandaC wonders if that non-user-hilight goes through Corded right
L639[16:53:50] <Skye> Temia, why not spray bottle Lizzy too? :P
L640[16:53:53] * Skye hides
L641[16:54:01] <Temia> <.<
L642[16:54:23] <Temia> Because she wasn't the one who linked it.
L643[16:56:58] <Inari> %give MichiBot Temia's spraybottle
L644[16:56:58] * MichiBot accepts Temia's spraybottle and adds it to her inventory
L645[16:58:29] <Temia> h-hey, give that back D:
L646[16:59:06] <gamax92> %give Temia Temia's spraybottle
L647[16:59:07] * MichiBot gives Temia Temia's spraybottle from her inventory
L648[16:59:37] <Temia> <3
L649[16:59:40] * Temia hugs Gamax!
L650[17:16:04] <Kodos> %oclogs
L651[17:16:05] <MichiBot> https://oclogs.pc-logix.com/
L652[17:16:15] <Kodos> Is there a way to search the entirety of the log collection for something
L653[17:16:37] <Kodos> Oh, wait, nvm
L654[17:18:21] <Kodos> 504 timeout when searching the logs =(
L655[17:19:07] <Mimiru> theres a download option on the main oclogs page..
L656[17:19:13] <Mimiru> then yo ucan search from your FS
L657[17:19:22] <Mimiru> I'll work on the log search later I'm in a mission ATM
L658[17:23:48] <AmandaC> Mimiru: whose the target? Have you confirmed the kill yet?
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L660[17:44:50] <AmandaC> %give MichiBot a loving home
L661[17:44:51] * MichiBot accepts the loving home and adds it to her inventory
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L663[17:59:28] <S3> phew. I started doing homework at like 10 am
L664[17:59:31] <S3> or 9
L665[17:59:46] <S3> it is now 19:11 and I just submitted it
L666[18:00:01] <S3> that was just "one" class. Now I need to work on the other
L667[18:00:17] <AmandaC> Aaaand the homework server is down
L668[18:01:30] <S3> thanks to AmandaC my next server hostname will be Homework
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L670[18:02:01] <sir3x> hey everyone
L671[18:02:08] <S3> no sir3x you have disconnected
L672[18:02:14] <S3> reconnect and try again
L673[18:02:21] <AmandaC> And it will be located under Dave's porch (without Dave's knowledge or consent )
L674[18:02:31] <S3> who the heck is dave
L675[18:03:06] <sir3x> I have a question if anyone wouldnt mind answering it
L676[18:03:11] <AmandaC> I picked a random generic name and bet on you knowing someone who matched it
L677[18:03:33] <S3> don't ask to ask :D
L678[18:03:39] <S3> AmandaC: I do know somebody
L679[18:03:41] <S3> my father lol
L680[18:04:14] <sir3x> The other floppy disc's. Are they only located in dungeons or is there just an unknown way to make them. Also I cant seem to craft interweb
L681[18:04:42] <S3> I thought they could be crafted
L682[18:05:54] <AmandaC> scrench + openOS install floppy = next loot disk
L683[18:06:00] <AmandaC> ( in the crafting grid)
L684[18:06:14] <S3> hehe
L685[18:06:19] <S3> scrench eh
L686[18:06:26] <S3> I don't remember anything about a scrench
L687[18:06:34] <sir3x> oh awesome
L688[18:06:41] <S3> is that like a serving wench?
L689[18:06:46] <sir3x> what about the interweb ?
L690[18:07:05] <AmandaC> interweb only has the one recipe, unless you change it
L691[18:07:13] <sir3x> ive tried that recipe
L692[18:07:17] <AmandaC> ( AFAIK )
L693[18:08:11] <sir3x> and i havnt changed any recipe
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L695[18:09:23] <sir3x> well that was weird ive reset my client and now i can
L696[18:09:32] <sir3x> thank you everyone
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L699[18:49:00] <Kodos> Scrench = screwdriver + wrench
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L710[20:14:31] <Izaya> oh :|
L711[20:14:40] <Izaya> W7 is uber unstable on ryzen apparently
L712[20:14:42] <Izaya> what a pain
L713[20:15:06] <Izaya> have to use a second GPU and pass it through if I upgrade
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L717[20:48:55] <Izaya> ... or just upgrade to RISC Soon™ and not have any Windows
L718[21:17:51] <gamax92> Izaya: whats up with w7 and ryzen?
L719[21:18:06] <Izaya> apparently it's unstable
L720[21:18:51] <gamax92> the only thing I've seen is you need a patch to disable the update blocker and installing may be hard due to usb 3.0+
L721[21:21:19] <freacknate09> YES! my edit of free.lua to make it have the optional command -hr is done, it took forever, because i was slacking off and doing other stuff
L722[21:23:14] <gamax92> Izaya: also the whole fma3 instructions hard locking the computer and INT instuction broken under VME
L723[21:27:05] <Izaya> as far as USB you just install from DVD and copy drivers from a modern live CD or similar
L724[21:27:16] <Izaya> hope you have PS/2 tho
L725[21:27:30] <gamax92> I mean so yeah that doesn't solve anything if you have no ps/2
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L727[22:13:26] <Izaya> could probably do automated driver install
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L731[22:40:49] <freacknate09> Does anyone know how i can use up the 256k of ram my oc computer has?
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L734[23:04:29] <Izaya> uh, t={}
L735[23:04:57] <Izaya> while true do t[#t+1] = #t end
L736[23:06:58] <gamax92> z=" " while true do z=z..z end
L737[23:12:52] <Tazz> lol
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L739[23:13:11] <Tazz> the GC wouldnt take care of that/
L740[23:13:39] <Tazz> referring to Izaya's answer
L741[23:14:09] <Tazz> hmmm wait nm
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L746[23:58:40] <ds84182> are we doing exponential growth stuff? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
L747[23:59:40] <ds84182> function it(x) local c = {x} x[#x+1] = c pcall(it, x) pcall(it, c) end
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