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L3[00:56:12] <payonel> Mimiru: what did you
end up doing?
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<Forecaster>
oh, apparently Sol is not a permit system
<Forecaster>
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L10[03:33:15] <Forecaster>
or wait it is, but you just need rank with the Federation to get
it
<Forecaster>
or wait it is, but you just need rank with the Federation to get
itL11[03:33:22] <Forecaster>
which I have apparently
<Forecaster>
which I have apparentlyL13[03:48:46] <Forecaster>
I just accepted this mission...
<Forecaster>
I just accepted this mission...L14[03:50:04] <Forecaster>
that's almost 26 thousand lightyears
<Forecaster>
that's almost 26 thousand lightyearsL15[03:55:52] <Syrren> @Forecaster: is the
blue circle the bubble?
L16[03:56:00] <Forecaster>
no
<Forecaster>
noL17[03:56:07] <Forecaster>
the mission target icon on the right
<Forecaster>
the mission target icon on the rightL18[03:56:26] <Syrren> I know *that*, I
mean the populated-systems bubble
L19[03:56:34] <Forecaster>
oh bubble
<Forecaster>
oh bubbleL20[03:56:48] <Syrren> but the blue
circle's probably the galmap cursor
L21[03:56:55] <Forecaster>
yes
<Forecaster>
yesL22[03:57:16] <Forecaster>
I don't know where the bubble is exactly
<Forecaster>
I don't know where the bubble is exactlyL23[03:57:36] <Syrren> that mission target
is waaaay outside of it though
L24[03:58:00] <Forecaster>
that cluster of icons to the left is the bubble
<Forecaster>
that cluster of icons to the left is the bubbleL25[03:58:02] <Syrren> if the mission
doesn't force you to return ASAP you might as well proceed to
Beagle Point from there
L26[03:58:35] <Forecaster>
I have 3 weeks and 6 days to complete the mission
<Forecaster>
I have 3 weeks and 6 days to complete the missionL27[03:59:06] <Forecaster>
the target tourist site is "On Top of the Galaxy"
<Forecaster>
the target tourist site is "On Top of the Galaxy"L28[04:01:33] <Syrren> ...wait, that sounds
like beagle point.
L29[04:02:04] <Forecaster>
the destination exceeds the maximum range you can plan a route
for...
<Forecaster>
the destination exceeds the maximum range you can plan a route
for...L30[04:02:39] <Syrren> @Forecaster: you
probably want the Neutron Router. https://www.spansh.co.uk/
L31[04:03:06] <Forecaster>
I have some program on my computer somewhere that can help me, but
I don't remember where it is
<Forecaster>
I have some program on my computer somewhere that can help me, but
I don't remember where it isL32[04:07:14] <Forecaster>
It's plotting a course now
<Forecaster>
It's plotting a course nowL33[04:08:10] <Syrren> @Forecaster: It
being Neutron Router?
L34[04:08:58] <Forecaster>
no, the program
<Forecaster>
no, the programL35[04:09:13] <Syrren> which program is
this, then? I assume it integrates with the game better :)
L36[04:09:41] <Forecaster>
I'm trying EDDiscovery right now, it's still chugging along at
it
<Forecaster>
I'm trying EDDiscovery right now, it's still chugging along at
itL37[04:09:58] <Forecaster>
it's probably quite outdated at this point
<Forecaster>
it's probably quite outdated at this pointL38[04:10:03] <Forecaster>
may need to update it
<Forecaster>
may need to update itL39[04:11:46] <Forecaster>
hah, it failed
<Forecaster>
hah, it failedL40[04:11:52] <Forecaster>
"Total distance: 0"
<Forecaster>
"Total distance: 0"L41[04:12:20] <Syrren> lol...
L42[04:12:46] <Forecaster>
going to update elite co-pilot and try that
<Forecaster>
going to update elite co-pilot and try thatL43[04:12:51] <Forecaster>
I've used that in the past
<Forecaster>
I've used that in the pastL44[04:28:33] <Forecaster>
hm, no I think even the latest version is too out of date
<Forecaster>
hm, no I think even the latest version is too out of dateL45[04:28:42] <Forecaster>
it doesn't seem to be able to use the journal api
<Forecaster>
it doesn't seem to be able to use the journal apiL46[04:30:00] <Syrren> :(
L47[04:31:45] <Forecaster>
oh I see, the site tells me which systems to plot to using the
in-game plotter
<Forecaster>
oh I see, the site tells me which systems to plot to using the
in-game plotterL48[04:32:15] <Forecaster>
I expected it to just tell me each system
<Forecaster>
I expected it to just tell me each systemL49[04:32:26] <Forecaster>
1143 total jumps
<Forecaster>
1143 total jumpsL50[04:32:40] <Syrren> yeah, neutron router
is intended to work together with ingame plotting
L51[04:32:49] <Syrren> fwiw 2.4 will
apparently support up to 20kly plots
L52[04:34:52] <Forecaster>
is that in the beta?
<Forecaster>
is that in the beta?L53[04:35:42] <Syrren> latest newsletter
mentions "We’re delighted to be able to confirm that the 2.4
open beta is now live, and we’re asking Commanders from every
corner of the galaxy to jump in and test the latest
version!"
L54[04:35:50] <Syrren> I haven't tried it
myself, so can't comment
L55[04:54:20] <Forecaster>
I could try, but it's not useful for my current mission anyway
:P
<Forecaster>
I could try, but it's not useful for my current mission anyway
:PL56[05:34:43] <Forecaster>
kinda wish I'd brought a detailed planet scanner
<Forecaster>
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L59[05:51:03] <Forecaster>
on the other hand, scanning everything would extend this trip by
quite a lot
<Forecaster>
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L69[07:07:49] <Forecaster>
I've actually decided to cancel this mission...
<Forecaster>
I've actually decided to cancel this mission...L70[07:07:53] <Forecaster>
it's not worth it :I
<Forecaster>
it's not worth it :IL71[07:15:00] ⇨
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L72[07:15:18] * noob
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L73[07:16:02] <Izaya> that's ominous
L74[07:18:03] <noob> had just the weirdest
bug ever ... pretext: in sky factory with blood magic there is bug
where you die you loose everything ... and since the shield of my
draconic armor makes lots of noise ... i took it off ... ... but I
still could fly as I would have it on ... and then I pricked myself
too much ... and the blood magic bug didn't occur ... wired
L75[07:18:29] <noob> means a grave appered
with all my stff in it ..
L76[07:18:42] <noob> and the world wasn't
corrupted
L77[07:20:53] <Skye> %p
L78[07:20:59] <MichiBot> Ping reply from
Skye 2.61s
L79[07:21:23] <Izaya> %p
L80[07:21:25] <MichiBot> Ping reply from
Izaya 0.75s
L81[07:21:31] <Skye> This what I get for
the cheapest network outside
L82[07:21:50] <Izaya> aw, there's one bot
that responds to all my ping replies
L83[07:24:54] <20kdc>
%whichprotocolisbestprotocol
<20kdc>
%whichprotocolisbestprotocolL84[07:24:56] ⇦
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L85[07:25:01] <20kdc>
spooky
<20kdc>
spookyL86[07:27:49] <noob> the draconic stuff is
way too op ... my magnet picks stuff up from other end of base. I
constantly random crap in my inventory ...
L87[07:31:04] <Forecaster>
%whichprotocolisbestprotocol
<Forecaster>
%whichprotocolisbestprotocolL88[07:31:05] <MichiBot> The
"mindyourownbusinessprotocol"
L89[07:31:47] <Izaya> ..?
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L92[07:41:17] <Saphire> ...
L93[07:41:25] <Saphire> holy shit USB is a
terrible design
L94[07:41:54] <Saphire> All it takes is to
break the part that is hanging in the port to make any port
useless
L95[07:42:10] <Saphire> *is breaking
L96[07:42:22] <Syrren> you mean physically
breaking?
L97[07:46:38] <MGR> Really
MichiBot?
<MGR> Really
MichiBot?L98[07:46:40] <MichiBot> Corded:
Whatever.
L99[07:49:00] <Saphire> Syrren: yeah
L100[07:49:13] <Saphire> On normal usb
ports it's okay
L101[07:49:23] <Saphire> But on micro/mini
usb it's just...
L102[07:49:34] <Saphire> One loosely
fitting plug, and the port is gone.
L103[07:50:54] <Izaya> so you put an FDD
in a tablet then you shift-click to insert a disk?
L104[07:54:26] <Skye> Izaya, yep
L105[07:54:39] <Skye> Izaya, what would it
take to make a locked down tablet.
L106[07:54:42] <Izaya> that's fun
L107[07:54:44] <Izaya> isn't letting me
insert the disk
L108[07:54:57] <Izaya> Skye: make it only
load an init that matches a specific hash :3
L109[07:55:10] <Izaya> I'm sure I could
compact the sha256 lib to <4k
L110[07:55:22] <Skye> Izaya, you'd need to
allow upgrades though
L111[07:55:39] <Izaya> Have a funciton for
allowing modification of the EEPROM
L112[07:55:52] <Izaya> needs you to know a
key that only the EEPROM and external stuff has
L113[07:56:18] <Skye> Would one be able to
replace the EEPROM
L114[07:56:34] <Izaya> by disassembling
the tablet and swapping it out
L115[07:57:18] <Izaya> why is autojump a
thing
L116[07:57:27] <Skye> Izaya, MCPE
L117[07:57:35] <Izaya> this isn't
MCPE
L118[07:57:39] <Izaya> this is legacy
minecraft
L119[07:57:44] <Izaya> they're killing it
ASAP
L120[07:57:56] <Izaya> why add features
only useful with an onscreen keyboard
L121[07:58:07] <Izaya> When there's MCPE
for Windows 10?
L122[07:59:02] <Saphire> Autojump is such
shitty one actually
L123[07:59:02] <Skye> Izaya, because
people like Dinnerbone don't know C++
L124[07:59:21] <Skye> So he works on
Java
L125[07:59:23] <Izaya> ...so they
implemented autojump to have something to do?
L126[07:59:24] <Saphire> Skye: uh, win10
MC is utterly unmoddable
L127[07:59:43] <Skye> Saphire, Dinnerbone
is a Minecraft coder.
L128[07:59:51] <Skye> Not a modder
L129[08:00:22] <Saphire> Oh derp
L130[08:00:30] <Saphire> Izaya:
psssss
L131[08:00:32] <Saphire> https://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Better_Together_Update
L132[08:00:47] <Saphire> "The
editions will be merged under one title -
"Minecraft""
L133[08:01:01] <Izaya> yeah but it's not
1.7.10 so it's not relevant to me :D
L134[08:01:06] <Saphire> "With the
release of the Better Together Update, the original PC version,
which is officially named Minecraft but commonly called "the
Java edition", will be renamed to Minecraft: Java Edition to
distinguish it from the cross-platform version.[3]"
L135[08:01:14] <Saphire> >java
L136[08:01:21] <Saphire> >to
distinguish it from cross-platform
L137[08:01:44] <Saphire> SINCE WHEN
"CROSSPLATFORM" MEANS WINDOWS AND MOBILE DEVICES AND NOT
WINDOWS&LINUX&MAC?
L138[08:02:00] <Izaya> since
Microsoft
L139[08:02:27] <Izaya> don't you know
Windows is cross-platform because it runs on ARM and x86 (ignore
POWER and MIPS and everything not ARM and x86)
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L142[08:04:30] <20kdc>
well, NOBODY expected THAT
<20kdc>
well, NOBODY expected THATL143[08:04:34] <20kdc>
...
<20kdc>
...L144[08:04:41] *
Izaya entirely expected this
L145[08:04:46] <Corded> * <20kdc>
nods
L146[08:04:52] <Izaya> I give it a few
years till they stop allowing you to use java MC
L147[08:05:07] <20kdc> I am
actually amazed they're moving this *slowly*
<20kdc> I am
actually amazed they're moving this *slowly*L148[08:05:15] <Saphire> >Q: Will DLC
content transfer over to the new version of Minecraft?
L149[08:05:16] <20kdc> but
this is exactly what we were *all* thinking they'd do
<20kdc> but
this is exactly what we were *all* thinking they'd doL150[08:05:18] <Saphire> A: Our goal is to
get all the existing DLC content to be transferable from the old
version to the new version. For DLC pieces that are currently out
on the old console version and Bedrock, like the Greek Mythology
Mash-Up Pack, those entitlements will be available on the new
version in Beta. A select list of content will only be available on
the platform it was purchased on and not available in
L151[08:05:20] <Saphire> multiplayer.
Herobrine has been removed.
L152[08:05:22] <Saphire> ...
L153[08:05:30] <Izaya> Minecraft has
DLC?
L154[08:05:41] <Saphire> Izaya:
"Minecraft"
L155[08:05:41] <20kdc> On
console versions.
<20kdc> On
console versions.L156[08:05:45] <Saphire> The
"new" one
L157[08:05:50] <Izaya> It's a brand
L158[08:05:59] <Skye> It should be called
the original version
L159[08:06:07] <Izaya> the actual
version
L160[08:06:48] <noob> The only reason why
I have MCwin10 ...1. it was for free ... 2nd it has an VR
option.
L161[08:07:02] <Izaya> I have Minetest if
I want free VR minecraft
L162[08:07:10] <Izaya> it has an option
for SBS rendering and I can use that over VNC
L163[08:07:26] <Izaya> Minetest has more
content than MCPE, too.
L164[08:07:44] <Saphire> >When you
report a player, depending on the severity of the issue, customer
support and enforcement teams can affect a server ban, Minecraft
ban or Xbox-wide ban.
L165[08:08:29] <noob> 20kdc Well, nobody
expects the Spanish inquisition ...
L166[08:08:31] <Saphire> >https://minecraft.net/en-us/article/better-together-faq
L167[08:08:33] <Saphire> not
L168[08:08:34] <Saphire> a fucking
word
L169[08:08:37] <Saphire> about linux
L170[08:08:40] <Saphire> AT ALL
L171[08:08:53] <Izaya> ...again, you're
surprised?
L172[08:09:02] <Izaya> to Microsoft, Linux
is something to EEE, nothing more.
L173[08:09:21] <Skye> I hope they keep the
Java version
L174[08:09:26] <Skye> Even if not
updated
L175[08:09:36] <Izaya> They won't :D
L176[08:09:59] <Izaya> They'll probably
disallow using it on the Java versions from the login servers
L177[08:10:05] <Skye> So they can go
"if you don't like the DLC or pay to win then use the Java
version"
L178[08:10:16] <Skye> Izaya, would that be
legal?
L179[08:10:25] <Izaya> though I remember
someone having a server that spoofed the login servers
L180[08:10:25] <noob> Saphire: It is MS
... they hate linux with a passion ... (which in form of Android
made them give away windows 10 for free) ... So ... I doesn't
surprise me a bit
L181[08:10:44] <Izaya> Skye: pretty sure
that'd be legal because W10PE exists
L182[08:11:12] <noob> but they can't
ignore the mobile market ... they only can ignore the pc linux
market
L183[08:11:27] <Izaya> it's like "if
you want to use Minecraft on PC, use Windows 10 or go
die."
L184[08:11:36] <Skye> Dammit
L185[08:12:02] <Skye> But
L186[08:12:10] <Skye> The community drill
focuses on Java
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L188[08:12:17] <Saphire> Skye: well
L189[08:12:26] <Skye> Despite their
attempts to kill it, Java has the most legacy
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L191[08:12:39] <Saphire> They will just
drop some kind of bomb on it
L192[08:12:41] <Saphire> Like...
L193[08:12:45] <Saphire> "No modding,
at all"
L194[08:12:53] <Saphire> Retroactive
L195[08:12:54] <noob> Well... till now we
have a ledgit version ... which I am sure will be hacked if they
fuck with it ... then I use the hacked version ...
L196[08:13:16] <Saphire> noob: spoofing a
login server is easy
L197[08:13:20] <Skye> Honestly
L198[08:13:20] <Izaya> ^
L199[08:13:27] <Izaya> again, I know
someone with a program that does that
L200[08:13:28] <Saphire> probalem is to
spoof it in a way that allows you to join servers
L201[08:13:36] <Izaya> I forget who though
:|
L202[08:13:40] <Saphire> Izaya: I actually
seen a program for it
L203[08:13:49] <Saphire> It's literally a
single lib to be injected into MC
L204[08:13:51] <Izaya> Saphire: it'll all
be spoofed server at some point
L205[08:13:51] <Saphire> tada
L206[08:14:09] <Saphire> Izaya: no, it
will be just thousand login servers for every server
L207[08:14:10] <Skye> I'm fine with them
not updating it.
L208[08:14:19] <Saphire> meaning own
launcher for each server
L209[08:14:26] <Saphire> Like most pirate
servers do
L210[08:14:30] *
noob shurgs
L211[08:14:49] <Skye> All they need to do
to keep me happy is to keep the auth servers up.
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L215[08:17:12] <Saphire> Izaya: https://github.com/new-sashok724/Launcher
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L217[08:18:06] <Saphire> Aaaand I have a
version that basically takes a lib of this shit and spoofs all MD5
checks for server
L218[08:18:09] <Saphire> I mean,
uh...
L219[08:18:33] <Saphire> Basically that
launcher enforces a strict "no own mods lol" policy
L220[08:18:52] <Saphire> Aaaaaand I didn't
liked it when I played on a server that used this launcher
L221[08:19:25] <Saphire> So I modified it
to spoof the checks :V
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L223[08:36:49] <noob> i there a way to
prevent certain mobs to spawn on cursed earth?
L224[08:36:55] <noob> *is
L225[08:37:56] <noob> I made a terrible
mistake ... I made a mob to blood altar feeder ... and then a
skeleton shoot a creeper and that blew up my altar ...
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L227[08:44:04] <Mimiru> %tell payonel
everything compacted down to 650GB, OVH gives me 500GB of backup
free, so I backed up what I could, then put Bast's main drive
(240GB on Dropbox)
L228[08:44:04] <MichiBot> Mimiru: payonel
will be notified of this message when next seen.
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L230[09:02:30] <Saphire> ...
L231[09:02:46] <Saphire> How the hell do
you even CAUSE a -0x1 error?!
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L238[09:47:10] *
Saphire whines
L239[09:51:01] *
Temia patpats :<
L240[09:51:20] <Saphire> I am trying to
play a game...
L241[09:51:27] <Saphire> But it says it is
missing a SINGLE file
L242[09:51:45] <Saphire> But it is
there
L243[09:52:18] <Saphire> (it's C# mono
game, open source, and the "missing file" thing happens
only when the thing from that file gets spawned ingame)
L244[09:59:11] <Saphire> ...huh
L245[09:59:21] <Saphire> Apparently
somehow it had wrong path separators
L246[10:12:10] <noob> %bye
L247[10:12:10] <MichiBot> Oh, well, bye I
guess...
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L249[10:13:00] <Forecaster>
that's not what that is for D:<
<Forecaster>
that's not what that is for D:<L250[10:13:39] <Syrren> ?
L251[10:14:09] <Forecaster>
the "bye" command
<Forecaster>
the "bye" commandL252[10:27:23] <S3> http://picosong.com/wsSrV/
L253[10:55:27] <Forecaster>
so this is a thing
<Forecaster>
so this is a thingL255[10:58:58]
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L259[11:27:45] <gamax92> Mimiru?
L260[11:27:59] <Mimiru> gamax92?
L261[11:28:08] <gamax92> :D you're
alive
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L264[11:28:33] <Forecaster>
or is she?!
<Forecaster>
or is she?!L265[11:29:39] <Mimiru> Seems
unlikely?
L266[11:30:41] <gamax92> Mimiru: so don't
exceed X amount of disk space?
L267[11:31:17] <Mimiru> ?
L268[11:31:46] <gamax92> I guess not
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L270[11:32:00] <Mimiru> theres, like
1.something TB free
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L273[11:32:47] <Mimiru> 1.7TB
L274[11:33:17] <Mimiru> and it's RAIDed
now.. so if a disk fails, OVH replaces it and everything is
ok.
L276[11:34:13] <Mimiru>
Test
<Mimiru>
TestL277[11:34:16] <Mimiru>
yay
<Mimiru>
yayL278[11:34:18] <Mimiru>
antiping works
<Mimiru>
antiping worksL279[11:34:25] <Forecaster>
woop
<Forecaster>
woopL280[11:34:27] <Mimiru>
also... hey look FFXIV launcher ;P
<Mimiru>
also... hey look FFXIV launcher ;PL281[11:34:33] <Forecaster>
ohno
<Forecaster>
ohnoL282[11:58:59]
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L283[12:47:04] <Forecaster>
Earth - "Earth-like world"
<Forecaster>
Earth - "Earth-like world"L284[12:47:07] <Forecaster>
no kidding?
<Forecaster>
no kidding?L285[12:47:51] <AmandaC> Corded: I don't
believe it, better scan again just to be sure.
L286[12:48:04] <AmandaC> er @Forecaster
^
L287[12:50:05] <Forecaster>
I didn't even scan it :P
<Forecaster>
I didn't even scan it :PL288[12:50:16] <Forecaster>
it's one of many pre-mapped systems
<Forecaster>
it's one of many pre-mapped systemsL289[12:51:46]
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L290[12:52:22] <Forecaster>
Mars is orbited by a station called "Mars High"
<Forecaster>
Mars is orbited by a station called "Mars High"L291[12:53:03] <AmandaC> @Forecaster all
the more reason to scan it yourself!
L292[12:54:20] <AmandaC> Clearly they're
lying!
L293[12:54:27] <Forecaster>
:P
<Forecaster>
:PL295[13:01:45] <AmandaC> That's mars! Not
Earth!
L296[13:03:21] <Forecaster>
I didn't say it was earth
<Forecaster>
I didn't say it was earthL297[13:03:48] <Forecaster>
after I was at earth I went to visit mars
<Forecaster>
after I was at earth I went to visit marsL298[13:04:20] <AmandaC> Have they
collapsed Jupiter into a second sun?
L299[13:04:32] <Forecaster>
not that I'm aware
<Forecaster>
not that I'm awareL300[13:08:04] <Temia> Europa's probably
safe to land on then.
L301[13:08:39] <Vexatos> But does it have
sixty moons?
L302[13:10:25] <Forecaster>
I'm not in-system anymore
<Forecaster>
I'm not in-system anymoreL303[13:10:32] <Forecaster>
on the map Jupiter has four moons
<Forecaster>
on the map Jupiter has four moonsL304[13:11:04] <Forecaster>
Io, Eurpoa, Ganymede and Callisto
<Forecaster>
Io, Eurpoa, Ganymede and CallistoL305[13:11:23] <Forecaster>
All but Io can be landed on
<Forecaster>
All but Io can be landed onL306[13:11:28] ⇦
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L307[13:11:49] <Forecaster>
Io says it's atmosphere type is Surphur Dioxide
<Forecaster>
Io says it's atmosphere type is Surphur DioxideL308[13:12:27] <Forecaster>
Pluto has 11 moons
<Forecaster>
Pluto has 11 moonsL309[13:17:17] <Forecaster>
20k Ly route planning confirmed in beta
<Forecaster>
20k Ly route planning confirmed in betaL310[13:24:39] <AlexINF
(Hikumare)> Uhh
<AlexINF
(Hikumare)> UhhL311[13:25:09] <AlexINF
(Hikumare)> Has anyone done a "How to do your own OS"
tutorial?
<AlexINF
(Hikumare)> Has anyone done a "How to do your own OS"
tutorial?L312[13:25:23] <AlexINF
(Hikumare)> With the exception of the wiki one...
<AlexINF
(Hikumare)> With the exception of the wiki one...L313[13:28:41]
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L314[13:28:57] <AlexINF
(Hikumare)> Hello
<AlexINF
(Hikumare)> HelloL315[13:32:52] <Skye>
@AlexINF (Hikumare), sadly not
<Skye>
@AlexINF (Hikumare), sadly notL316[13:33:00] <AlexINF
(Hikumare)> oho.
<AlexINF
(Hikumare)> oho.L317[13:33:07] <Skye> I did
make an OS though
<Skye> I did
make an OS thoughL318[13:33:08] <Skye>
:P
<Skye>
:PL319[13:33:14] <AlexINF
(Hikumare)> Not sadly though. I was looking for that answer
:p
<AlexINF
(Hikumare)> Not sadly though. I was looking for that answer
:pL320[13:33:21] <AlexINF
(Hikumare)> So I can make a tutorial on how to do it :p
<AlexINF
(Hikumare)> So I can make a tutorial on how to do it :pL321[13:34:29] <Skye> well
if you want to know about things from people who made OSes, then me
and Izaya and maybe payonel can help and possibly Magi6k if he's
online.
<Skye> well
if you want to know about things from people who made OSes, then me
and Izaya and maybe payonel can help and possibly Magi6k if he's
online.L322[13:35:11] <AlexINF
(Hikumare)> Yeah, a help would be neat.
<AlexINF
(Hikumare)> Yeah, a help would be neat.L323[13:35:23] <AlexINF
(Hikumare)> I know the basics, but I need some more
practice
<AlexINF
(Hikumare)> I know the basics, but I need some more
practiceL324[13:41:22] <AlexINF
(Hikumare)> how- wha-
<AlexINF
(Hikumare)> how- wha-L325[13:41:40]
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L326[13:41:42] <AlexINF
(Hikumare)> I created an account and my pic updated itself
<AlexINF
(Hikumare)> I created an account and my pic updated itselfL327[13:41:45] <AlexINF
(Hikumare)> nice
<AlexINF
(Hikumare)> niceL328[13:43:59] <Forecaster>
probably gravatar or something
<Forecaster>
probably gravatar or somethingL329[13:45:39] <AlexINF
(Hikumare)> Yeah
<AlexINF
(Hikumare)> YeahL330[13:45:43] <AlexINF
(Hikumare)> Probably
<AlexINF
(Hikumare)> ProbablyL331[13:45:46] <AlexINF
(Hikumare)> Or github
<AlexINF
(Hikumare)> Or githubL332[13:45:56] <AlexINF
(Hikumare)> Uhh how can you copy entire folders?
<AlexINF
(Hikumare)> Uhh how can you copy entire folders?L333[13:46:43] <Skye> using
what?
<Skye> using
what?L334[13:46:52] <Skye>
windows, github, OpenOS... :P
<Skye>
windows, github, OpenOS... :PL335[13:46:54] <AlexINF
(Hikumare)> OpenOS
<AlexINF
(Hikumare)> OpenOSL336[13:46:57] <Skye>
uh
<Skye>
uhL337[13:47:04] <Skye> `man
cp`
<Skye> `man
cp`L338[13:47:05] <Skye> read
that
<Skye> read
thatL339[13:47:26] <AlexINF
(Hikumare)> Alright
<AlexINF
(Hikumare)> AlrightL340[13:47:38] <AlexINF
(Hikumare)> I'm stupid and I created an entire program to copy
folders
<AlexINF
(Hikumare)> I'm stupid and I created an entire program to copy
foldersL341[13:47:39] <AlexINF
(Hikumare)> ree
<AlexINF
(Hikumare)> reeL342[13:49:45] <AlexINF
(Hikumare)> uhh
<AlexINF
(Hikumare)> uhhL343[13:49:49] <AlexINF
(Hikumare)> it doesn't let me
<AlexINF
(Hikumare)> it doesn't let meL344[13:49:59] <AlexINF
(Hikumare)> It says "ommiting directory"
<AlexINF
(Hikumare)> It says "ommiting directory"L345[13:51:43] <AmandaC> %choose code or
nms
L346[13:51:44] <MichiBot> AmandaC:
code
L347[13:51:47] <AmandaC> no
L348[13:52:00] <Mimiru> then why ask?
:P
L349[13:52:35] <Skye>
@AlexINF (Hikumare), did you read the actual documentation?
<Skye>
@AlexINF (Hikumare), did you read the actual documentation?L350[13:52:44] <AlexINF
(Hikumare)> the man one?
<AlexINF
(Hikumare)> the man one?L351[13:52:46] <Skye>
ye
<Skye>
yeL352[13:52:47] <AlexINF
(Hikumare)> Yeah
<AlexINF
(Hikumare)> YeahL353[13:52:54] <AlexINF
(Hikumare)> doesn't have any options
<AlexINF
(Hikumare)> doesn't have any optionsL354[13:53:02] <Skye>
oh
<Skye>
ohL355[13:53:04] <Skye>
well
<Skye>
wellL356[13:53:08] <AlexINF
(Hikumare)> It says it's for single files...
<AlexINF
(Hikumare)> It says it's for single files...L357[13:53:09] <Skye> `cp
-r`
<Skye> `cp
-r`L358[13:53:21] <AmandaC> Mimiru: because I
wasn't sure until the gut reaction to what MichiBot said. :P
L359[13:53:23] <Skye> the
command is `cp -r`
<Skye> the
command is `cp -r`L360[13:53:27] <AlexINF
(Hikumare)> oh.
<AlexINF
(Hikumare)> oh.L361[13:53:28] <Mimiru> lol
L362[13:53:32] <AlexINF
(Hikumare)> thanks lel
<AlexINF
(Hikumare)> thanks lelL363[13:53:54] ⇦
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L366[14:25:50] <S3> That's too much
L367[14:26:03] <S3> that's almost 1400
floppy 3.5 disks
L368[14:29:52] <AlexINF
(Hikumare)> idea: tell someone to build a raid as big as they
can so you can later remove one of their disks and see them die of
frustration
<AlexINF
(Hikumare)> idea: tell someone to build a raid as big as they
can so you can later remove one of their disks and see them die of
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L371[15:06:08] <aquilon> hello !
L372[15:06:55] <aquilon> are we allowed to
post links in this chat ? i need help and i have to post a
screenshot.
L373[15:10:46] <Temia> Feel free.
L374[15:14:53] <Forecaster>
yes
<Forecaster>
yesL375[15:15:29] <aquilon> So, i have built
a tablet in the assembler with all elements needed, and when i run
it, it does nothing, just a beep. see images : http://imgur.com/a/2hkk4
L376[15:15:51] <aquilon> can someone telle
me i missed something please ?
L377[15:16:06] <Forecaster>
did you put a programmed eeprom in it?
<Forecaster>
did you put a programmed eeprom in it?L378[15:16:14] <Forecaster>
and a harddrive with an operating system?
<Forecaster>
and a harddrive with an operating system?L379[15:16:37] <aquilon> i put an
eeprom(lua bios) and an hard drive with openOS
L380[15:16:54] <Mimiru> what cards are
installed? I can't quiet make them out..
L381[15:17:01] <Forecaster>
uh
<Forecaster>
uhL382[15:17:06] <aquilon> linked card and
internet card
L383[15:17:07] <Forecaster>
did you put a screen in it?
<Forecaster>
did you put a screen in it?L384[15:17:15] <Forecaster>
and a gpu
<Forecaster>
and a gpuL385[15:17:29] <Skye> yeahhh
L386[15:17:36] <Skye> there's no GPU
L387[15:17:47] <aquilon> omg
L388[15:17:58] <Skye> you either need a
GPU or need an APU instead of a CPU
L389[15:18:00] <aquilon> that fail, thank
you guys
L390[15:18:19] <Mimiru> yeah, I thoguht it
was a lack of GPU :P
L391[15:18:23] <Mimiru> thought too
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L393[15:19:42] <aquilon> i added an APU
thx for help
L394[15:19:50] <aquilon> it works
now
L395[15:19:54] <Temia> \o/
L396[15:20:16] <Skye> aquilon, note that a
tablet won't make use of a T3 GPU as it only has a T2 screen
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L398[15:22:30] <Forecaster>
you can't get that in an APU anyway right?
<Forecaster>
you can't get that in an APU anyway right?L399[15:22:43] <Temia> Yeah, the APU caps
at equivalence to a tier 2 GPU.
L400[15:23:15] <Temia> It's actually a
pretty good fit for the tablet, though I guess that's of no
surprise since it is a step removed from an SoC :P
L401[15:23:39] <aquilon> is there a way to
allow adapter to change a the frequency of a private enderstorage'
s ender chest ?
L402[15:24:31] <aquilon> because i can
change the frequency of public one but if i try with a private one,
t throw an error
L403[15:27:39] <AlexINF
(Hikumare)> actually a tablet can use a T3 gpu
<AlexINF
(Hikumare)> actually a tablet can use a T3 gpuL404[15:27:44] <AlexINF
(Hikumare)> It can use the color depth
<AlexINF
(Hikumare)> It can use the color depthL405[15:27:53] <AlexINF
(Hikumare)> Or not?
<AlexINF
(Hikumare)> Or not?L406[15:30:17] <Skye> @AlexINF (Hikumare),
it fits
L407[15:30:20] <Skye> but it doesn't do
anything
L408[15:30:27] <Skye> except waste a T3
slot
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L410[15:30:37] <AlexINF
(Hikumare)> can it use the color depth?
<AlexINF
(Hikumare)> can it use the color depth?L411[15:30:56] <AlexINF
(Hikumare)> nah? just it does what a T2 does?
<AlexINF
(Hikumare)> nah? just it does what a T2 does?L412[15:31:00] ⇦
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L413[15:32:29] <Forecaster>
which is a waste because you could just put a T2 in :P
<Forecaster>
which is a waste because you could just put a T2 in :PL414[15:33:06]
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L416[15:37:31] <AlexINF
(Hikumare)> well then :p
<AlexINF
(Hikumare)> well then :pL417[15:37:53] ⇦
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L419[15:47:22] <Alming> Hello! :D
L420[15:47:37] <Forecaster>
hello again
<Forecaster>
hello againL421[15:48:07] <Alming> how are you?
L422[15:48:50] <Forecaster>
physics and chemistry
<Forecaster>
physics and chemistryL423[15:49:07] <Alming> ?
L424[15:49:35] <Forecaster>
well, without those humans wouldn't exist
<Forecaster>
well, without those humans wouldn't existL425[15:49:41] <Forecaster>
so that's how I am
<Forecaster>
so that's how I amL426[15:50:54] <Alming> I see x)
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L428[15:55:25] <Forecaster>
psh, vexatos would have appreciated that joke (maybe)
<Forecaster>
psh, vexatos would have appreciated that joke (maybe)L429[15:55:26] <Forecaster>
>:
<Forecaster>
>:L430[15:56:04] <Vexatos> >:
L431[15:56:41] <Forecaster>
oh hi, you're here
<Forecaster>
oh hi, you're hereL432[15:57:41] ⇦
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L433[15:57:46] <noob> ah flipping hell ...
anyone here who knows where which element goes where in blood magic
ritual of binding? All I can find are old pictures ... and my
element crayons don't do patterns, but color splashes ... and even
those differ from the old ones ... I tried several combinations ...
all wrong ... with my now 3rd set of pens I want to get it
right
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L435[15:59:09] <Forecaster>
I've never used blood magic
<Forecaster>
I've never used blood magicL436[16:00:16] <noob> I also dunno why all
tutorial only show pictures ... instead of saying which element
goes where ...
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L442[16:54:37] <noob> for everyone who
doesn't know ... this is what future YT looks like ... http://www.returnofkings.com/129050/this-is-the-first-video-to-be-sandboxed-by-youtubes-censorship-alliance-with-the-adl
L443[16:56:42] <CompanionCube> biased
article is bias
L444[16:56:49] <CompanionCube> that said,
this will go wrong hilariously
L445[16:59:49] <CompanionCube> noob: got
any articles that aren't overtly on one side of the political
spectrum?
L446[17:01:32] <noob> ... maybe this
video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnqO5RUZvxE
L447[17:01:51] <MichiBot> It’s Come To
This | length: 14m 17s | Likes: 1,111 Dislikes: 20 Views: 8,825 | by Computing
Forever | Published On 27/8/2017
L448[17:04:45] <CompanionCube> ....this is
a dumb idea
L449[17:05:12] <noob> CompanionCube: What
is?
L450[17:05:35] <CompanionCube> what
youtube's doing
L451[17:05:43] <Forecaster>
I'm somehow not surprised the author of the video has a gab
account
<Forecaster>
I'm somehow not surprised the author of the video has a gab
accountL452[17:06:50] <noob> Almost all I follow
on yt have alternative accounts on other sites .. as gab, minds and
vid.me
L453[17:08:51] <noob> CompanionCube: ...
Yeah, YT will soon go where myspace now is and where twitter is
already heading
L454[17:09:21] <noob> (to the list of
sites nobody cares about)
L455[17:09:27] <CompanionCube> noob: as
long as whatever replaces them doesn't do the same thing in
reverse
L456[17:12:43] <noob> CompanionCube: ...
Yeah Google / alphabet will go into oblivion if they continue like
this ... I already use mostly duckduckgo.
L457[17:13:54] <noob> And the new ones
won't do that as long as they are not google big
L458[17:16:35] <noob> Though one of them
BitChute (in which I haven't had a look into it) is peer to peer
and might even become a blockchain one ...
L459[17:20:21] <Forecaster>
I've bout seen any reports that YouTube usage is declining
<Forecaster>
I've bout seen any reports that YouTube usage is decliningL460[17:20:44] <Forecaster>
I've not* - dang autocorrect
<Forecaster>
I've not* - dang autocorrectL461[17:21:52] <noob> Forecaster: Not, yet
... the full censorship will happen next thursday
L462[17:22:33] <Forecaster>
Uh huh
<Forecaster>
Uh huhL463[17:23:43] <Vexatos> I mean, I don't
really care :P
L464[17:23:51] <Vexatos> I have better
news sources than youtube
L465[17:23:53] <Vexatos> :I
L466[17:25:50] <Forecaster>
If I seriously cared about following news I wouldn't use YouTube
for it
<Forecaster>
If I seriously cared about following news I wouldn't use YouTube
for itL467[17:25:59] <Vexatos> I have like
L468[17:26:00] <Vexatos> uuh
L469[17:26:07] <Vexatos> a TV channel and
five websites?
L470[17:26:09] <Vexatos> for news :I
L471[17:26:13] <Forecaster>
I use YouTube for entertainment
<Forecaster>
I use YouTube for entertainmentL472[17:26:27] <Forecaster>
Almost exclusively
<Forecaster>
Almost exclusivelyL473[17:26:29] <Vexatos> same
L474[17:26:56] <Forecaster>
Some of it is educational
<Forecaster>
Some of it is educationalL475[17:27:01] <noob> new Youtube = TV
news ... I was going to YT to not see the same lies that are
promoted in TV
L476[17:27:03] <Vexatos> if they remove
politics because they're pissed off, why not
L477[17:27:21] <Vexatos> YT is not a
quotable news source
L478[17:27:24] <Forecaster>
They're allowed to for sure
<Forecaster>
They're allowed to for sureL479[17:27:35] <Vexatos> yea
L480[17:27:45] <Vexatos> noob, they're
only lies if you can prove them wrong
L481[17:27:50] <Vexatos> That's the
thing
L482[17:28:35] <Forecaster>
Such as by comparing to multiple other sources and see if they're
saying something that contradicts it
<Forecaster>
Such as by comparing to multiple other sources and see if they're
saying something that contradicts itL483[17:28:41] <Vexatos> And they're much
less likely lies if five websites from five different places in the
world report the same thing :P
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L485[17:30:06] <Vexatos> I'm a chemistry
student, the very most important thing I learn is how to do
research. What I learn there can be easily applied to politics and
general news too
L486[17:30:36] <Vexatos> You never just
look at one source from one place
L487[17:30:39] <Vexatos> that's
stupid
L488[17:31:15] <Vexatos> If you want to
stay generally up-to-date, it's probably fine. But if you want to
be able to argue about a topic, you better do your research
L489[17:31:32] <Vexatos> If you don't do
that, your opinion has no value in an argument
L490[17:31:52] <Vexatos> and YouTube is
not a very good source
L491[17:32:03] <Vexatos> Since it's almost
impossible to verify
L492[17:33:58] <Vexatos> Big news
companies cannot afford to lie too much or too often
L493[17:34:18] <Vexatos> At least over
here
L494[17:34:27] <Vexatos> Being caught
lying takes a heavy toll on your business
L495[17:34:33] <Izaya> that must be
nice
L496[17:34:44] <Vexatos> Since other news
sources stop quoting you
L497[17:34:48] <noob> But just because the
MSM news outlets say all the same ... doesn't make that true either
... and their sources are often equally hard to verify
L498[17:34:54] <Izaya> in places like the
US lying is the only way to get business :D
L499[17:35:29] <Vexatos> news that doesn't
have a verifyable source isn't news
L500[17:35:32] <noob> And those are lying
very often ... and are cought doing so
L501[17:35:42] <Vexatos> it's rumour
L502[17:35:50] <noob> it's not
L503[17:36:00] <AmandaC> And reporters /
sources can't sue the networks if they twist their story
completely, in the US, because "mutter mutter free
press"
L504[17:36:36] <noob> Since I am not
prepared I haven#t a example at hand ... but I've seen enough
L505[17:37:23] <Vexatos> You see, when you
have a quotable document in science, say, you want to quote a paper
depicting the synthesis of a specific substance. If that paper
doesn't exactly specify how they actually produced that substance,
in a way that someone else (including you) might just try and
synthesize it themselves, noone would consider it a quotable
source
L506[17:38:06] <Vexatos> I could come
around and say I have created a panacea that cures cancer. If I
don't tell you how I did it in a way that you could try repeating
the process, you wouldn't believe me
L507[17:38:14] <noob> AmandaC: In the US
the complete mSM thinks they are the ones who are the ones who form
opinions in the public and even stated to do so ... and worse they
are so left they a re practically communists
L508[17:38:34] *
AmandaC sighs
L509[17:38:40] <AmandaC> I seem to have
stepped in something again
L510[17:38:42] <Vexatos> In Germany, you
have a bunch of independent newspapers and three/four big TV
companies all competing
L511[17:38:44] *
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L512[17:38:54] <Mimiru> Fucking
hell....
L513[17:38:55] <Mimiru> ._.
L514[17:38:58] <Vexatos> They usually
quote one another
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L516[17:39:17] <Vexatos> But that makes it
easy to tell who came up with the story
L517[17:39:23] <Vexatos> and if it turns
out to be wrong
L518[17:39:36] <Vexatos> well, that
company takes a BIG hit
L519[17:39:49] <Vexatos> Since there's so
much competition in newspapers, there are quite severe
effects
L520[17:40:38] <Vexatos> Your problem
isn't the news companies, your problem is that you're living in a
country where the news companies can get away with being
stupid
L521[17:41:42] <Vexatos> It's the problem
that people keep buying newspapers that have been caught
lying
L522[17:42:06] <Vexatos> It just means you
have to stop being lazy and do the research yourself
L523[17:42:08] <noob> Again I have seen
plenty of examples ... like excusing Antifa or declaring a free
speech rally as white supremacist meeting ... (which had black
speakers...btw) which confused the left that much that they
attacked each other (while in search of nazies) ... or arbiteraly
declaring haircuts and fashion as fascist ... or declaring milk as
a white supremacists symbol ... and the list could go on
L524[17:42:10] <Vexatos> it's not that
hard
L525[17:42:43] <Vexatos> Well, then stop
reading leftist newspapers
L526[17:42:49] <Vexatos> if you don't like
those
L527[17:42:57] <Vexatos> There's a
difference between facts and opinions
L528[17:43:01] <BobbyTables2012> ^
L529[17:43:03] <Vexatos> if you cannot
distinguish those when reading something
L530[17:43:06] <Vexatos> you're a really
bad reader
L531[17:43:09] <noob> IT WAS IN ALL OF
THEM
L532[17:43:12] <Vexatos> if you cannot
distinguish those when reading something
L533[17:43:12] <Vexatos> you're a really
bad reader
L534[17:43:16] <BobbyTables2012> read
factual stuff and form your own opinions
L535[17:43:28] <noob> THERE WAS NONE WHICH
SAID DIFFERENTLY
L536[17:43:35] <Vexatos> Only because
someone tells you that pears taste like crap
L537[17:43:40] <Vexatos> Doesn't mean they
do
L538[17:43:44] <Vexatos> Taste them
yourself
L539[17:44:21] <noob> Yeah right ... and
when sonone tells you it snows on mars you go looking, or
what?
L540[17:44:36] <noob> *someone
L541[17:44:36] <Vexatos> You ask five
other people
L542[17:44:37] <BobbyTables2012> if you
want reliable, relatively unbiased news, look at associated
press
L543[17:44:43] <Vexatos> that have nothing
to do with the first person
L544[17:45:15] <Forecaster>
You call the Martians and ask if it's snowing
<Forecaster>
You call the Martians and ask if it's snowingL545[17:45:16] <noob> The mainstream news
outlets have stopped reporting news ... and that is proven and
started to maing the news
L546[17:45:20] <noob> *making
L547[17:45:50] <Vexatos> The news sources
I frequent are the most reputable German TV news channel, a British
newspaper, a British TV channel, one or two US TV channels, and
sometimes a completely independent worldwide news website
L548[17:45:54] <Vexatos> Get news
L549[17:46:02] <Vexatos> from as many
different and independent places as possible
L550[17:46:12] <Vexatos> That is how your
opinion gains in value
L551[17:46:13] <noob> Forecaster: proto
bacteria don't speak much ... And that was not a joke ... it really
snows on mars
L552[17:46:31] <BobbyTables2012>
yeah
L553[17:46:39] <BobbyTables2012> its
especially critical for opinion pieces
L554[17:46:45] <Vexatos> As I said
L555[17:46:56] <Vexatos> lying implies
stating fiction as fact
L556[17:46:59] <Vexatos> That has
L557[17:47:00] <Vexatos> NOTHING
L558[17:47:03] <Vexatos> ABSOLUTELY
NOTHING
L559[17:47:07] <Forecaster>
What I said was a joke, obviously
<Forecaster>
What I said was a joke, obviouslyL560[17:47:07] <Vexatos> to do with a
newspaper's opinion
L561[17:47:19] <Vexatos> If you read a
news source, filter out the opinion
L562[17:47:21] <Vexatos> find the
facts
L563[17:47:23] <Vexatos> verify them
L564[17:47:28] <Vexatos> and make your own
opinion
L565[17:48:17] <noob> They make shit up in
newspapers and passes them as fact ... in regular articles not ...
opinion columns (or what is named in english)
L566[17:48:56] <Vexatos> Well do
they
L567[17:48:58] <BobbyTables2012> yeah,
thats why you need to check where they are getting it from and
discern opinions from facts
L568[17:48:59] <Vexatos> do they state a
source
L569[17:49:20] <Vexatos> if they do, is
that source reputable? Does it have any reason to make it up? If
it's a lie, why is noone questioning it?
L570[17:49:32] <BobbyTables2012> a good
newspaper will cite sources, and their sources will be pretty
accurate
L571[17:49:33] <noob> give me money to
make 5 trips around the world every day and I will ... till then I
rely on people which are lving there and their YT (or where they
have gone in future) channel
L572[17:49:43] <Vexatos> Over here, every
other newspaper would immediately start crushing the lying
one.
L573[17:49:50] <Vexatos> As I said,
competition is high
L574[17:50:20] <noob> Not if they all want
to push the same narrative
L575[17:50:30] <Vexatos> noob, there's a
newspaper over here that's being sold in a total of five
villages
L576[17:50:33] <Vexatos> even that one has
a website
L577[17:50:36] <Vexatos> Seriously
L578[17:50:43] <Vexatos> Getting news from
around the world isn't hard nowadays
L579[17:51:09] <BobbyTables2012>
especially if you live in the us or any major country that is part
of international politics in a
L580[17:51:11] <BobbyTables2012> major
way
L581[17:51:17] <BobbyTables2012> like I
get the feeling you are
L582[17:51:25] <noob> and what most
newspapers do ... and I even have examples for that as well .. is
just copy paste from each other ...
L583[17:51:46] <Vexatos> it's not
copypasta
L584[17:51:48] <Vexatos> it's called
quoting
L585[17:51:55] <Vexatos> If you actually
looked
L586[17:51:58] <noob> espcially in the US
the news are lying to the public
L587[17:52:02] <Vexatos> you'd have seen
they mention the source
L588[17:52:03] <BobbyTables2012> as you
can get news not only from your country, but likely also from
international and foreign
L589[17:52:06] <BobbyTables2012>
newspapers
L590[17:52:20] <noob> Not if they don#t
call the source .
L591[17:52:33] <Vexatos> If some news
source would just copy the news from another without quoting it,
there'd be a guaranteed lawsuit
L592[17:52:40] <Vexatos> No news source
wants their story to be stolen
L593[17:52:53] <Vexatos> since story =
money
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L596[17:53:06] <Vexatos> Mimiru, it's not
over yet
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L598[17:53:31] <Vexatos> noob, did you
know that there are newspapers outside the country you live
in?
L599[17:53:37] <Vexatos> Shocking, I
know
L600[17:53:54] <Vexatos> and they
eve
L601[17:53:58] <noob> Vexatos: I ahve
examples (seen ... not at hand) them doing it ... you can even seen
who copied from who (through little changes) and none had a
reference to the real source which said something complete
different
L602[17:53:58] <Vexatos> even *gasp* have
websites
L603[17:54:01] <Vexatos> THAT YOU CAN
VISIT!
L604[17:54:30] <BobbyTables2012> look at
some good european newspapers (they likely cover stuff going on
that pertains to the us
L605[17:54:36] <Vexatos> and, this is
going to blow your mind, they only require internet access! WHICH
YOU ALREADY HAVE!
L606[17:54:48] <Vexatos> It's like it
takes no effort at all!
L607[17:55:20] <noob> What does that
matter when they only copy pasta (not quoting = not giving the
sources) from each other ...
L608[17:55:54] <Vexatos> except
L609[17:55:55] <Vexatos> you know
L610[17:55:57] <Vexatos> they don't
L611[17:56:00] <Vexatos> because it's
illegal
L612[17:56:05] <noob> THEY DO
L613[17:56:08] <Vexatos> and they'd sue
the hell out of one another
L614[17:56:12] <Vexatos> NOT
L615[17:56:13] <Forecaster>
Yeah I'm sure all news sources in the entire world does that, sound
very likely
<Forecaster>
Yeah I'm sure all news sources in the entire world does that, sound
very likelyL616[17:56:14] <Vexatos> OVER
L617[17:56:15] <Vexatos> HERE
L618[17:56:23] <Vexatos> Pretty much
L619[17:56:26] <Forecaster>
Sounds*
<Forecaster>
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L621[17:56:40] <Vexatos> >_>
L622[17:56:47] <Vexatos> Lose an argument
-> quit
L623[17:56:49] <Vexatos> yea right
L624[17:57:01] <Forecaster>
Maybe he'll come back with his examples :P
<Forecaster>
Maybe he'll come back with his examples :PL625[17:57:07] <Vexatos> heh
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L628[17:57:14] <Mimiru> Thanks
Vexatos
L629[17:57:24] <Vexatos> he was losing the
argument and left
L630[17:57:26] <Vexatos> Typical :I
L631[17:57:31] <Mimiru> :/ lol...
L632[17:57:43] <Forecaster>
Which will be a sample size of what, <1%?
<Forecaster>
Which will be a sample size of what, <1%?L633[17:57:48] <Vexatos> Reminds me of a
4-year-old that starts crying when it doesn't get what it
wants
L634[17:58:15] <Vexatos> The second-worst
thing in an argument. The very worst is people stating an opinion
without any facts to back it and claiming it's truth
L635[17:58:33] <Vexatos> one example being
"all corporate news sources are lying"
L636[17:58:36] <Vexatos> :/
L637[17:59:19] <Mimiru> :\
L638[17:59:31] <Forecaster>
:|
<Forecaster>
:|L639[17:59:43] <Vexatos> :/
L640[18:01:41] <payonel> alexinf: to copy
directory, you use "-r" to copy recursively
L641[18:01:52] <Mimiru> payonel, covered
already :P
L642[18:01:57] <Mimiru> keep up lol
L643[18:02:23] <payonel> i read from the
top :)
L644[18:04:14] <payonel> also, congrats on
consolidating the vm drives
L645[18:07:13] *
AmandaC returns, having successfully cleaned her paw of whatever
she stepped in
L646[18:09:38] <Mimiru> Yeah, I got ~2.2TB
to ~650GB so I was happy, lol
L647[18:09:57] <Mimiru> I still have 1.7TB
free on the server after getting everything copied back over, and
I'm on RAID5 now.
L648[18:09:59] <Mimiru> so I'm happy
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L665[19:17:09] <Izaya> @20kdc https://i.imgur.com/58MCHeD.png
L666[19:20:36] <Izaya> can't test rn
but...
L667[19:20:38] <Izaya> oh wait I an
L668[19:20:40] <Izaya> can
L669[19:20:50] <Izaya> the wonders of
virtualization
L670[19:32:47] <Izaya> https://i.imgur.com/HlRQfJY.png
L671[19:32:51] <Izaya> guess now I need
relib
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L679[23:09:17] <gamax92> Hey Izaya?
L680[23:09:26] <Izaya> hi
L681[23:09:33] <gamax92> https://i.redd.it/9fxvy22dypsy.jpg
L682[23:12:31] <Izaya> 2000/2000
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