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L3[00:15:49] <Michi> oh man.. right all this time with no logs too
L4[00:18:07] <Michi> gamax92, 2607:5300:61:8d9::9090:1
L5[00:20:21] <gamax92> Ok
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L56[09:40:29] <Michi__> Now to wait for all of the znc clients to slowly file in
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L58[09:42:15] <Michi__> %test
L59[09:42:25] <Michi__> Oh..
L60[09:42:29] <Michi__> michibot timed out..?
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L62[09:45:01] <Inari> payonel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQ49jtlz_3I
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L64[09:46:44] <Michi__> DNS is being stupid slow ._.
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L71[09:50:39] <Mimiru> well then
L72[09:51:29] <gamax92> ffs Mimiru
L73[09:51:43] <gamax92> How many different ipv6s do you have
L74[09:51:55] <Mimiru> a bunch.
L75[09:52:16] <Mimiru> I've updateds the ticket about .199 not working.. I can switch to my US based IP if you don't mind the IP change gamax92
L76[09:52:44] <gamax92> That's fine, I've not been using the ip
L77[09:53:16] <gamax92> If you need to change it again does that need a reboot of Athena or anything?
L78[09:53:56] <Mimiru> yes, cause for whatever reason ifdown <interface> breaks shit
L79[09:54:13] <gamax92> Well ...
L80[09:55:13] <gamax92> I don't mind a different ip I mind reboots though
L81[09:55:14] <Mimiru> gamax92, 2607:5300:61:8d9::9090:1 didn't work for you?
L82[09:56:30] <gamax92> Oh, it works
L83[09:56:35] <gamax92> Yay
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L85[09:56:53] <Mimiru> Ok, the IPv4 will just start working when they fix it with no need for a reboot
L86[09:57:31] <Forecaster> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/125649403162656768/344493700921163776/unknown.png
L87[09:57:31] <Forecaster> closest landing I've ever done...
L88[09:57:32] <Forecaster> I managed to get to the platform and turn around, then I ran out of power...
L89[09:57:32] <Forecaster> oh, is corded one-way only right now? :P
L90[09:57:32] <Forecaster> @Mimiru
L91[09:57:54] <Mimiru> It shouldn't be..
L92[09:58:12] <Mimiru> that ALL hit IRC at the same time though.. so
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L95[10:01:29] * Mimiru sighs
L96[10:01:33] <Mimiru> So.. sorry about all of that
L97[10:01:40] <Mimiru> I THOUGHT that would be an easy move.
L98[10:02:31] <Mimiru> But this gets me raid now.. before it was JBOD.. so if I had a drive fail I was fucked.
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L101[10:07:37] <Mimiru> Ok.. I think I'm going to take some drugs
L102[10:07:39] <Mimiru> and go to bed
L103[10:07:43] <gamax92> Mimiru: quick note
L104[10:07:47] <Mimiru> Yes?
L105[10:07:59] <gamax92> I temp changed the dns entries to the ipv6 ones so that would actually work for now
L106[10:08:43] <gamax92> otherwise it wasn't resolving anything
L107[10:08:44] <Mimiru> Nice.... what did yo uchange?
L108[10:08:49] <gamax92> just resolv.conf
L109[10:08:55] <Mimiru> cause I was trying that last night and got nowhere..
L110[10:08:59] <Mimiru> Yeah.. I tried that ._.
L111[10:09:05] * Mimiru sighs again
L112[10:09:55] <Mimiru> Whatever, as long as you got it
L113[10:23:07] <Alming> How to past a text in OC please?
L114[10:23:22] <gamax92> what
L115[10:23:41] <gamax92> paste?
L116[10:23:45] <gamax92> Hit insert key
L117[10:23:46] <Alming> paste*
L118[10:23:55] <gamax92> if you're on mac then I don't know
L119[10:24:19] <Alming> Does insert also works on OCEmu?
L120[10:24:21] <gamax92> yes
L121[10:39:29] <gamax92> an ipv6 only world is a broken world
L122[10:40:05] <gamax92> github lacks ipv6, discord lacks ipv6, a couple of irc servers I use lack it too
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L125[11:03:30] <Temia> Kind of shows the sorry state of a stagnating net.
L126[11:04:38] <gamax92> Temia: hmm?
L127[11:05:15] <Temia> IPv4 is at a dead-end and migration efforts are still lagging behind <.<
L128[11:05:37] <gamax92> yeah
L129[11:05:39] <gamax92> like Cleverpun.
L130[11:06:12] * Temia ... pokes fingers together and whistles innocently >3>;;
L131[11:06:50] <Temia> t-to be fair I don't own either of the current servers owing to my current life situation
L132[11:07:02] <gamax92> is fair
L133[11:07:26] <Temia> But I should light a fire under some asses about that, get addresses so I can add AAAA records, etc.
L134[11:07:39] <gamax92> Temia: decider has an AAAA record but library doesnt
L135[11:07:44] <gerard> Why should we migrate? Why not both ?
L136[11:07:51] <Temia> ...I can't even keep track of my own network aaaaaaaaa orz
L137[11:08:01] <Temia> AND I'M THE ONE WITH CONTROL OVER THE NAMESERVERS orz orz orz
L138[11:08:13] * Temia facedesks. fail admin.
L139[11:08:22] <gamax92> X3
L140[11:09:01] <Temia> I mean I guess one could justify me not being able to remember every configuration made given how busy I've been over the past three months, two of which I haven't even had access to my own private key, but still
L141[11:21:55] <Mimiru> Ok.. I feel a bit better now
L142[11:28:25] <Mimiru> github doesn't ipv6..?
L143[11:30:40] <gamax92> github doesn't have an AAAA
L144[11:30:46] <Mimiru> wow.
L145[11:30:53] <Mimiru> that's surprising..
L146[11:31:13] * Saphire screeeeeeeeeeeeeeee--
L147[11:31:22] <Saphire> G.. ghk..
L148[11:31:31] <Saphire> RIP Firefox
L149[11:31:53] <gamax92> how so
L150[11:32:07] <Saphire> also, Temia... if you'll point me to any Russian IPv6 ISP, I will marry you. Or something.
L151[11:32:54] <Temia> I already have a boyfriend, but thank you.
L152[11:32:57] * Temia headpat.
L153[11:33:07] <Saphire> Aka, the point is...
L154[11:33:34] <Saphire> IPv6 support is FOR SOME FUCKING WEIRD REASON (I MEAN WHAT THE FUCK?!) is more of a previlege.
L155[11:33:39] * Temia nods.
L156[11:33:42] <Saphire> (or only on VPSes)
L157[11:33:44] <Temia> I understand, it's fucked.
L158[11:33:53] <Saphire> Only HUGE datacenters have it
L159[11:34:01] <Mimiru> one day I'll have native IPv6...
L160[11:34:07] <CompanionCube> isn't russian interwebs in general fucked
L161[11:34:12] <Saphire> anything else? "lol fuck you, I am not updating my 2005-ish hardware for ipv6"
L162[11:34:20] <Saphire> CompanionCube: oh, yeah, and that.
L163[11:34:25] * CompanionCube enjoys the native v6 he's had for a good period now
L164[11:34:30] <CompanionCube> and this is just a regular consumer ISP
L165[11:34:41] <Saphire> .______.
L166[11:34:47] <Saphire> I call bullshit on that
L167[11:34:49] <CompanionCube> there are better ones
L168[11:34:53] <Saphire> I bet you pay twice for it
L169[11:35:06] <Saphire> Or SOME other catch.
L170[11:35:09] <Saphire> There must be one
L171[11:35:13] <CompanionCube> Saphire: nah
L172[11:35:16] <Saphire> OOoooh, let me guess
L173[11:35:25] <Saphire> You get only a single ipv6 address?
L174[11:35:27] <CompanionCube> no
L175[11:35:34] <Saphire> ...q-q
L176[11:35:42] <Saphire> Also, on Firefox.
L177[11:35:54] <CompanionCube> Saphire: it's still dynamic v6, which is kinda bad
L178[11:35:56] <CompanionCube> but it's there
L179[11:36:00] <Saphire> Uh... they are going down a road of "let's clone chrome"
L180[11:36:03] <Saphire> CompanionCube: ew
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L183[11:36:18] <CompanionCube> and it came in firmware updates for the router
L184[11:36:27] <Saphire> And the problem is, for normal users that's probably not going to make any weather.
L185[11:36:33] <Saphire> But for any advanced users?
L186[11:36:43] <Saphire> "Uh, how is that any better than chrome now?"
L187[11:36:47] <CompanionCube> if you want static v6 you'd be better off which one of the better ISPs anyway :p
L188[11:37:01] <Saphire> And... the problem is...
L189[11:37:08] <Saphire> There are no other browsers
L190[11:37:28] <Saphire> I mean, right now there's Firefox, Not-IE-Edge, Chrome...
L191[11:37:39] <Saphire> And thousands and thousands of chromium based browsers
L192[11:38:02] <Inari> All non chromium based browsers need to die
L193[11:38:11] <Saphire> And like 2 or 3 very niche and very low-tier/non-standard/plskillmenothingworks browsers
L194[11:38:15] <CompanionCube> Saphire: the catch with this ISP (not specific to v6) is that the T&Cs restrict you to using their router. Using your own's possible, but can be a bit tricky due to their authentication mechanism.
L195[11:38:16] <Saphire> Inari: uh
L196[11:38:22] <CompanionCube> Inari: ....
L197[11:38:25] <Saphire> CompanionCube: WHAT THE FUCK
L198[11:38:42] <Saphire> I call antimonopoly commitee on them!
L199[11:38:45] <Inari> What?
L200[11:38:46] <CompanionCube> Saphire: it'd even be reasonable if it was bridgemode
L201[11:38:49] <Inari> Chromium is arguably the best
L202[11:38:51] <CompanionCube> like virgin
L203[11:38:57] <Inari> And more than one is just a pain when you webdev
L204[11:39:08] <Saphire> CompanionCube: cough cough monopoly cough
L205[11:39:14] <CompanionCube> Saphire: doesn't apply in the UK
L206[11:39:19] <Saphire> Fuck
L207[11:39:19] <CompanionCube> where there's an actual market
L208[11:39:29] <CompanionCube> you can switch ISPs with relative ease
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L210[11:39:35] <Saphire> Good..
L211[11:39:47] <Saphire> IN russia you pretty much got Rostelekom, and bunch of smaller ones
L212[11:39:59] <Saphire> That vary very much odepending on area
L213[11:40:12] <Saphire> Though, yeah, we got few ISPs that are all over russia
L214[11:40:18] <CompanionCube> (well, BT essentailly has a monopoly on telephone lines but Ofcom makes sure they can't abuse it)
L215[11:41:52] <CompanionCube> Saphire: and imho there are worse ISPs than mine
L216[11:41:56] * CompanionCube looks at TalkTalk
L217[11:42:37] <Saphire> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv6_deployment#Russian_Federation
L218[11:42:41] <Saphire> LOOK AT THIS
L219[11:43:19] <CompanionCube> ' inet6 2a02:c7f:9241:5300:4eed:deff:fe9f:3ec2/64 scope global mngtmpaddr dynamic'
L220[11:43:22] <CompanionCube> ;)
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L222[11:46:01] <CompanionCube> Saphire: an example of a 'better ISP' would be Zen or http://aa.net.uk/
L223[12:01:13] <MGR> https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/ROG-ZENITH-EXTREME/ Such LEDS very Bright
L224[12:01:24] <MGR> Rampage VI Extreme has even more LEDs
L225[12:01:41] <MGR> And they both have their own displays built into the motherboard, because why not?
L226[12:08:34] <Skye> Who needs LEDs
L227[12:09:10] <gamax92> I do
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L232[12:11:41] <MGR> Skye, LEDs can look cool. I personally like them, although I know many people who do not
L233[12:11:58] <Skye> Eeew
L234[12:12:12] * Skye hugs her monolith of a computer
L235[12:12:55] <Corded> * <MGR> just realized that his authorized budget increase for a new computer in 5 years could conflict with a potential expense of a new car
L236[12:13:02] <MGR> That would be an issue.....
L237[12:14:17] <MGR> Anyways, I LEDs are cool once you synchronize them all, but I can respect a computer without that look
L238[12:14:25] <MGR> Fractal Design makes some good cases
L239[12:14:54] <Forecaster> I don't need my computer to look anything
L240[12:14:58] <Forecaster> it just needs to work
L241[12:14:59] <Forecaster> :P
L242[12:15:51] <Forecaster> LEDs can look cool, but it's far from useful
L243[12:16:11] <Forecaster> unless you need to find your computer in the dark I suppose
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L245[12:18:08] * CompanionCube has only functional LEDs
L246[12:20:38] <MGR> I'm not saying LEDs are useful, but aesthetics plays at least a minor role in any custom built computer
L247[12:20:48] <freacknate09WC> Can someone help me make programs for drones?
L248[12:23:53] <MGR> You need to program an EEPROM
L249[12:23:59] <MGR> What are you looking to do with a drone?
L250[12:26:14] <freacknate09WC> I want to just have a remote console on it, so i can run commands from a computer, to mess around, and make it more complex later on
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L253[12:27:19] <freacknate09WC> I could do it if i could install openos on it
L254[12:27:20] <Alming> Hello :)
L255[12:28:19] <Alming> Do you know to bind different screens using OCEmu to display the same information please?
L256[12:28:45] <MalkContent> anyone been playing with the 1.12 oc dev build?
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L258[12:29:28] <MalkContent> i played a bit with it and encountered no issues other than missing textures/models for items, and i'm kinda tempted to throw it on the server ^^
L259[12:29:38] <CompanionCube> freacknate09WC: remote console?
L260[12:30:12] <MGR> OpenOS does not fit on a drone
L261[12:30:32] <CompanionCube> there's always something like multice
L262[12:31:16] <freacknate09WC> CompanionCube: yes, how do i get multice?
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L264[12:32:19] <CompanionCube> https://github.com/XeonSquared/multice I don't think anyone's tested it on a drone though
L265[12:33:37] <freacknate09WC> ok
L266[12:33:49] <freacknate09WC> I guess i will test it on the drone
L267[12:34:31] <CompanionCube> if it doesn't you can try something else or poke Izaya about it
L268[12:34:59] <freacknate09WC> ok
L269[12:35:14] <Alming> Do you know to bind different screens using OCEmu to display the same information please? :)
L270[12:37:00] <freacknate09WC> hmm, i get a 404 when trying to download it
L271[12:37:23] <freacknate09WC> when trying to go to the page to download anyway
L272[12:37:45] <MGR> Works for me
L273[12:38:04] <freacknate09WC> could you download it for me and put it on dropbox or something?
L274[12:39:13] <CompanionCube> Izaya: yor
L275[12:39:26] <CompanionCube> Izaya: your site's download links are broken for multice
L276[12:40:29] <CompanionCube> freacknate09WC: grab the source and build it in openos?
L277[12:40:52] <freacknate09WC> how do i build it?
L278[12:41:06] <CompanionCube> run build.lua?
L279[12:41:06] <freacknate09WC> sorry, i am a noob at some openos things
L280[12:41:11] <freacknate09WC> ok, thanks
L281[12:43:30] <freacknate09WC> it is failing to build
L282[12:44:11] <freacknate09WC> and im not set up to run lua on my rig
L283[12:44:17] <freacknate09WC> real life rig
L284[12:44:36] <CompanionCube> huh
L285[12:44:48] <CompanionCube> what's the error?
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L287[12:46:44] <freacknate09WC> the first line is /multice/build.lua:79 attempt to index global 'f' (a nil value)
L288[12:48:16] <CompanionCube> so there's a build.cfg in the same dir?
L289[12:48:28] <freacknate09WC> yes
L290[12:48:41] <CompanionCube> wait, wrong line
L291[12:48:54] <freacknate09WC> ?
L292[12:49:40] <CompanionCube> huh, i getthe same error
L293[12:50:27] <freacknate09WC> do you know any other os?
L294[12:51:33] <freacknate09WC> actually, do you know of any server oses?
L295[12:53:09] <CompanionCube> servers are just bigger computers
L296[12:53:43] <MalkContent> ^
L297[12:53:58] <freacknate09WC> ok, i want to have then be NASes, but i am almost clueless with networking for sending files
L298[12:54:14] <freacknate09WC> or at least one be a nas
L299[12:54:34] <CompanionCube> https://oc.cil.li/index.php?/topic/844-serverfs-host-a-filesystem-over-the-network/ there's this
L300[12:54:39] <CompanionCube> but i don't know if it's any good
L301[12:54:46] <freacknate09WC> ok
L302[12:54:52] <MalkContent> also you don't need a server for that
L303[12:55:07] <freacknate09WC> I am still learning lua also, i picked this back up a few days ago
L304[12:55:16] <freacknate09WC> ok
L305[12:55:46] <MalkContent> a server's main point is that you can pack many computers into a single block and that you can up the maximum number of components a server can handle
L306[12:56:04] <MalkContent> at least from what i gathered
L307[12:56:12] <freacknate09WC> ok
L308[12:58:23] <Mimiru> hmmm Hekate's dns resolution is suuuper slow :/
L309[12:58:52] <freacknate09WC> How do i use a component bus in a server?
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L311[13:02:19] <Mimiru> ._.
L312[13:02:22] <Mimiru> %p
L313[13:02:24] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Mimiru 0.27s
L314[13:02:57] <MalkContent> you just cram it in there :x
L315[13:04:05] <MGR> MalkContent, that sounds about right
L316[13:04:10] <MGR> Also more RAM
L317[13:04:45] <freacknate09WC> ok
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L320[13:09:14] <freacknate09WC> that serverfs worked
L321[13:12:37] <MGR> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/125649403162656768/344542883333931012/dt170808.gif
L322[13:12:44] <freacknate09WC> and i am making use of it
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L324[13:19:24] <freacknate09> I just set up a server with open os, oppm, and openirc
L325[13:19:37] <freacknate09> pastebin get HAgcbg41 /boot/98_serverfilesystem.lua
L326[13:19:42] <freacknate09> crud, sorry
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L330[13:28:49] <MGR> "Batteries can't fix themselves. If they could, you'd never need to buy new batteries for anything."
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L332[13:34:19] <MalkContent> ?
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L334[13:38:09] <MGR> MalkContent, I was quoting a story
L335[13:38:56] <MalkContent> i don't get it though :x
L336[13:39:11] <MalkContent> is this about energy?
L337[13:40:19] <MalkContent> cause otherwise i am getting the same from it as "Shoes can't fix themselves. If they could, you'd never need to buy new shoes for anything."
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L339[13:41:08] <MGR> A Luser thought that if he left his laptop with a dead battery plugged in, it would fix the battery, even though Windows told him the battery was dead
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L341[13:42:05] <MalkContent> now it makes sense :D
L342[13:42:25] <MGR> Yep
L343[13:51:21] <freacknate09WC> Has anyone used SEbios? this is the link to the forum post about it: https://oc.cil.li/index.php?/topic/1379-sks-enhanced-bios/#comment-6080 I can not get wtape to work correctly
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L345[14:43:15] <Vexatos> Hey Mimiru, is the wiki mirror still dead? :I
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L348[14:58:44] <AmandaC> %choose try and code more or meh
L349[14:58:45] <MichiBot> AmandaC: try and code more
L350[14:58:50] <AmandaC> %choose br or lr
L351[14:58:50] <MichiBot> AmandaC: lr
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L353[15:12:09] <Mimiru> Vexatos, the cert is expired.. but it works
L354[15:12:24] <Mimiru> OVH fucked the routing for my IP block..
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L356[15:13:14] <Vexatos> Mimiru, well http://wiki.vexatos.com/ is still derp, anyhow
L357[15:13:32] <Mimiru> It works fine for me.
L358[15:13:38] <Vexatos> Oh wait
L359[15:13:39] <Mimiru> except for the expired cert warning.
L360[15:13:48] <Vexatos> it forces https and my browser cannot into expired certs
L361[15:13:53] <Vexatos> yea nevermind
L362[15:14:37] <Vexatos> thanks anyway >->
L363[15:14:49] <Mimiru> Np.. I'll fix the cert as soon as I can
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L366[15:49:27] <MajGenRelativity> ~w filesystem
L367[15:49:27] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/api:filesystem
L368[15:54:28] <Guest17896> woops
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L370[15:54:44] <ds84182> lol
L371[16:07:15] <MGR> https://youtu.be/DOW_kPzY_JY?t=45s "There's a lake here"
L372[16:22:46] <MajGenRelativity> ~w event
L373[16:22:46] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/api:event
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L377[17:05:11] <freacknate09OC> Is it feasble to build a tablet before a computer in survival?
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L379[17:07:59] <freacknate09WC> Is it feasble to build a tablet before a computer in survival?
L380[17:09:57] <Temia> You could? But you'd need to put a floppy drive in the tablet.
L381[17:10:23] <Temia> Since you wouldn't be able to preinstall.
L382[17:11:19] <Temia> There is otherwise no strict progression in OpenComputers -- it's a (very expansive) utility mod, so the tiering that exists is purely dependent on your resources.
L383[17:33:21] <Inari> Whys raspberry pi so expensive :<
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L387[17:58:14] <freacknate09WC> What use would a computer have in the section between early and midgame? I am running a quite modified version of ftb dw20
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L392[18:01:40] <freacknate09OC> What use would a computer have in the section between early and midgame? I am running a quite modified version of ftb dw20
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L394[18:03:43] <Temia> Quite a variety of things :o
L395[18:09:55] <freacknate09OC> Do you have an example? I only have a few things to interact with, my steam dyno, my pulverizer, my redstone furnace, and my aquas acumu
L396[18:10:04] <freacknate09OC> also, how do i create a symbolic link?
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L398[18:12:37] <Guest81964> o/
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L402[18:13:00] zsh sets mode: +v on payonel
L403[18:13:07] <payonel> i'm alive
L404[18:14:14] <gamax92> yay
L405[18:14:37] <payonel> i volunteered at a shelter last night and got no sleep - it was a long night
L406[18:14:48] <payonel> so i basically woke up a couple hours ago
L407[18:14:52] <freacknate09OC> that sucks
L408[18:15:13] <payonel> it was a good reminder to be grateful for thing
L409[18:15:14] <payonel> things*
L410[18:15:36] <freacknate09OC> How do i create a symbolic link? I have a floppy, and everytime it is put in, i want it to create a symbolic link in my /home called Floppy1
L411[18:16:33] <payonel> freacknate09OC: ln <target> <path>
L412[18:16:43] <payonel> i know irl you'd want ln -s, openos does ONLY -s
L413[18:16:57] <payonel> so you could say `ln -s`, and i typically do, just know that the -s is ignored
L414[18:17:37] <payonel> so: `cd /home` `ln -s /mnt/[floppy] Floppy1`
L415[18:17:38] <freacknate09OC> I want to do it in an autorun.lua, do you know what command I would use then?
L416[18:17:52] <payonel> well depends on the floppy's id
L417[18:18:12] <freacknate09OC> the id is c12, with a label of Floppy1
L418[18:18:30] <payonel> ln /mnt/c12 /home/Floppy1
L419[18:18:49] <freacknate09OC> just put that in a file named autorun.lua, and it will create the link?
L420[18:18:53] <payonel> you want to put it in which autorun, the floppy's ?
L421[18:18:57] <freacknate09OC> yes
L422[18:19:05] <freacknate09OC> the floppys autorun
L423[18:19:07] <payonel> autorun.lua is a lua file, "ln ..." is a shell command
L424[18:19:11] <payonel> so no
L425[18:19:21] <payonel> if you want to make a link in lua you use the fs library
L426[18:20:06] <freacknate09OC> ok, i figured out what the command is in lua, but it errors every time it runs, saying "unexpected symbol near '/'
L427[18:20:18] <freacknate09OC> one sec
L428[18:20:37] <payonel> local fs = require("filesystem") fs.link("/mnt/c12", "/home/Floppy1")
L429[18:22:36] <freacknate09OC> Awesome, thank you, it works now, the fs.link command was confusing me until you wrote that. I, for some reason, didnt realize i needed to give origin AND destination
L430[18:23:15] <payonel> yeah. np. feel free to ask me anything about openos and lua
L431[18:24:27] <freacknate09OC> ok, I will be asking a lot then, I only started learning lua the other day
L432[18:24:37] <freacknate09OC> I have played with openos for a few days longer lol
L433[18:25:46] <freacknate09OC> +payonel: I have another question, how would i create a program that shows uptime in the top left and ran on boot up?
L434[18:25:57] <freacknate09OC> and ran in background so i could still use it
L435[18:26:54] <payonel> well, openos out the box doesn't provide a "window" you could have floating in the top left. the terminal library supports windowing, but it takes considerable setup code
L436[18:27:08] <payonel> you could just draw the text on top of whatever is there, on a timer
L437[18:27:16] <payonel> would that be sufficient?
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L439[18:27:34] <freacknate09OC> yes
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L441[18:29:33] <payonel> you could use an autorun or the rc system. autorun takes less work, rc feels more portable in case you want to share the code and not conflict with other autoruns. but rc takes more setup
L442[18:29:48] <payonel> or you could use your /home/.shrc
L443[18:30:36] <payonel> the benefit of /home/.shrc is that runs whether or not your fs autorun is enabled, it is shell commands (which is better for some ppl)
L444[18:31:05] <payonel> and /home/.shrc runs after everything is loaded (e.g. the terminal, in case you want to draw to the screen)
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L446[18:31:36] <payonel> you can write code in rc or autorun that waits appropriately for the gui to load fully, but .shrc is nice if you want to ignore that
L447[18:32:02] <freacknate09OC> what is the diff between .shrc and rc?
L448[18:32:25] <freacknate09OC> and what is the code required to do this? i was thinking of using the uptime program that comes with openos
L449[18:32:31] <payonel> rc refers to /bin/rc, and rc modules you can build and add to your /etc/rc.cfg
L450[18:32:37] <freacknate09OC> ok
L451[18:32:38] <payonel> via `rc enable ...`
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L453[18:32:56] <freacknate09OC> do rc modules use standard lua?
L454[18:33:19] <payonel> yes, rc loads files that are assumed to be lua files
L455[18:33:23] <freacknate09OC> ok
L456[18:34:11] <freacknate09OC> what libraries would i use to print the output of the uptime program to the top right of the screen? I have a T1 gpu, so i cant do color
L457[18:34:24] <freacknate09OC> because that is what i would do, is output it
L458[18:34:30] <freacknate09OC> to make it easier for me
L459[18:35:19] <payonel> well you have choices
L460[18:35:44] <payonel> though i recommend you write this in lua
L461[18:36:02] <payonel> autorun.lua and rc scripts are lua first, and /home/.shrc is shell commands
L462[18:36:09] <freacknate09OC> ok
L463[18:36:14] <payonel> that doesn't disqualify /home/.shrc, you can call another script from it
L464[18:36:28] <freacknate09OC> ooh, that sounds handy for other programs
L465[18:36:39] <payonel> for example, your .shrc could have a line that says: /home/show_uptime.lua
L466[18:37:06] <freacknate09OC> ok
L467[18:37:14] <payonel> btw, because your code will continuously show the uptime, this feels more like a proper application for rc
L468[18:37:34] <payonel> but you can promote your code to work in the structure of the rc system at another date if you are interested in doing that
L469[18:38:05] <payonel> so we will discuss the lua code, but this would go in a lua file, not in the .shrc file. and your .shrc will call your lua file
L470[18:38:58] <payonel> the first thing i would consider is that you said it should continue to run over time, but not block the shell. there are two ways to accomplish that
L471[18:39:29] <payonel> 1. use event timers to call a short function that writes the uptime once
L472[18:39:38] <payonel> or 2. use threads, and an inf loop
L473[18:40:27] <payonel> i recommend threads because they are actually really fun :)
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L475[18:45:20] <payonel> freacknate09OC: this would work https://hastebin.com/yaxedalika.lua
L476[18:47:04] <payonel> oh sorry, you can remove the "- 5" in the setCursor
L477[18:47:10] <payonel> i was testing something else and forgot to remove that
L478[18:47:42] <payonel> oh derp, just remove that whole line :/
L479[18:47:43] <payonel> haha
L480[18:47:51] <payonel> https://hastebin.com/gadoteyayo.lua
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L482[18:49:04] <ironmountain> o/
L483[18:49:08] <payonel> \o
L484[18:52:08] <ironmountain> e
L485[18:53:38] <freacknate09OC> thank you for the program, just drop it in the rc.d folder
L486[18:54:34] <payonel> the formatting was bugging me, and the unpack was unnecessary (written in haste, left too much testing code) https://hastebin.com/jerasopome.lua
L487[18:54:42] <payonel> uh no, this is no an rc module
L488[18:54:57] <payonel> i said, "but you can promote your code to work in the structure of the rc system at another date if you are interested in doing that"
L489[18:55:18] <payonel> this is code you could put in a lua file anywhere, and call that from /home/.shrc
L490[18:55:56] <freacknate09OC> ok
L491[18:56:46] <freacknate09OC> Do you have an example rc module that i could tear apart and learn how it works? I am going to do the same with the other program
L492[18:57:01] <payonel> there is an example rc program that comes with openos
L493[18:57:04] <payonel> look in /etc
L494[18:57:08] <freacknate09OC> ok
L495[18:57:40] <freacknate09OC> thank you, now to go expand my knowledge and hopefully not brick my system, i will be back with more questions for sure
L496[18:57:52] <payonel> if you ported this code to an rc module, i would use the rc stop method to call t:kill() to stop the thread
L497[18:58:09] <freacknate09OC> ok
L498[18:58:29] <payonel> there are many others here that are quite helpful. i'm often afk
L499[18:58:31] <freacknate09OC> how do i call it from /home/.shrc. i dont see that on my install
L500[18:58:32] <freacknate09OC> ok
L501[18:58:51] <payonel> /home/.shrc is called automatically on boot
L502[18:59:04] <payonel> what do you mean you don't see it on your install
L503[18:59:11] <payonel> what version of openos are you running?
L504[18:59:51] <freacknate09OC> i am running 1.6.1
L505[19:00:10] <freacknate09OC> ahh, i see it now, how do i unhide it?
L506[19:00:23] <Mimiru> there.. fixed Vex's cert..
L507[19:00:30] <payonel> freacknate09OC: `l -l`
L508[19:00:31] <freacknate09OC> how do i call the other program with .shrcv
L509[19:00:33] <payonel> zug
L510[19:00:36] <payonel> why do i derp so much
L511[19:00:38] <payonel> `l -a`
L512[19:00:44] <freacknate09OC> where do i put that?
L513[19:00:48] <freacknate09OC> in the .shrc file?
L514[19:00:50] <payonel> that'll show you hidden files
L515[19:00:58] <freacknate09OC> ahh
L516[19:00:59] <payonel> no, `l` is `ls -l`
L517[19:01:05] <payonel> and thus `l -a` is `ls -la`
L518[19:01:22] <payonel> any file with . is hidden
L519[19:01:43] <payonel> as for calling more things from /home/.shrc --- each and every line in the /home/.shrc is run as a shell command
L520[19:02:07] <payonel> as for `local thread = require("thread")` you're going to have a bad time unless you update OC
L521[19:02:35] <freacknate09OC> that is the latest version for 1.10.2
L522[19:03:13] <freacknate09OC> so, just add a shell command inside of .shrc, and it will execute?
L523[19:04:35] <payonel> openos 1.6.1 is not the latest version for any mc version
L524[19:04:40] <payonel> yes, a shell comand
L525[19:04:58] <payonel> command*. such as just `/path/to/my/uptime_displayer.lua`
L526[19:05:07] <freacknate09OC> that is the operating system, not the mod version
L527[19:05:11] <`> ._.
L528[19:05:13] <payonel> i know that
L529[19:05:29] <payonel> freacknate09OC: http://ci.cil.li/job/OpenComputers-dev-MC1.10/
L530[19:05:39] <payonel> `: you know this is entirely you're own fault
L531[19:05:40] <payonel> your*
L532[19:05:41] <payonel> :/
L533[19:06:05] <`> I blame you tho
L534[19:06:10] <`> use ' instead
L535[19:06:29] <payonel> but that's not how i exec :P
L536[19:06:31] <freacknate09OC> oh wow, that is a newer version, and use ' for what?
L537[19:06:41] <payonel> freacknate09OC: that was a message for me
L538[19:06:46] <freacknate09OC> oh
L539[19:06:52] <freacknate09OC> sorry, i was confused
L540[19:08:10] <payonel> freacknate09OC: once you update your mod, any OpenOS floppy that already exists in the game world (or any future once you craft) will magically update in-place
L541[19:08:41] <payonel> at which point, you will need to insert the OpenOS floppy into your machine that already has OpenOS installed on its hdd, and run the install again -- this will update the files
L542[19:08:56] <freacknate09OC> nice, and just reinstall my os from the disk, and my os will be updated? or will the floppy just update my os install?
L543[19:09:01] <freacknate09OC> ahh
L544[19:09:01] <freacknate09OC> ok
L545[19:09:11] <freacknate09OC> I sent that last message before i saw your second one
L546[19:09:58] <freacknate09OC> there, updating my mod
L547[19:10:27] <freacknate09OC> what is new in the latest version of openos
L548[19:10:47] <freacknate09OC> i forget the ?, sorry
L549[19:11:55] <freacknate09OC> they should include a changelog when updating than insstall of openos
L550[19:12:08] <freacknate09OC> hmm, *an, and *install
L551[19:12:16] <payonel> well, they is "I"
L552[19:12:24] <payonel> i put all my changes in the commits :) haha
L553[19:12:28] <payonel> the commit messages
L554[19:12:50] <freacknate09OC> did you make openos?
L555[19:12:57] <payonel> and when we make a new official release, we aggregate the changes to a changelog report on github
L556[19:13:11] <freacknate09OC> ok
L557[19:13:51] <payonel> freacknate09OC: Sangar (the oc author) originally made openos, but i'm a member of the group and i've redone most of the os over the last few years
L558[19:13:53] <payonel> couple* years
L559[19:14:10] <freacknate09OC> oh wow
L560[19:14:50] <payonel> most has been redone as in ... probably 80% of it
L561[19:14:53] <freacknate09OC> what is the command to view hidden files? wow
L562[19:14:58] <freacknate09OC> that is a lot of work
L563[19:15:14] <payonel> i suppose i could write a script to actually find lines i haven't changed :)
L564[19:15:22] <payonel> l is an alias for ls -l
L565[19:15:28] <payonel> ls lists files, and -l lists them vertically
L566[19:15:40] <freacknate09OC> ok
L567[19:15:42] <payonel> any file (in the linux world) with . at the front of the name is hidden to that view
L568[19:15:53] <payonel> if you want ls to display hidden files, include -a: ls -la
L569[19:15:56] <payonel> or, just l -a
L570[19:15:57] <freacknate09OC> ok
L571[19:16:11] <freacknate09OC> ahh, thanks
L572[19:16:14] <payonel> openos is linux-like
L573[19:16:17] <freacknate09OC> ok
L574[19:16:37] <freacknate09OC> I thought it was linux like :)
L575[19:16:48] <payonel> well that's my goal :)
L576[19:16:49] <payonel> haha
L577[19:17:32] <freacknate09OC> how do i make that uptime widget program run via .shrc again?
L578[19:17:47] <payonel> .shrc is run when you reach your shell prompt
L579[19:17:50] <freacknate09OC> is openos centralized or decentralized?
L580[19:17:50] <freacknate09OC> ok
L581[19:17:59] <freacknate09OC> it is blank when i go to edit it, is that normal?
L582[19:19:42] <freacknate09OC> https://hastebin.com/jerasopome.lua is not working correctly
L583[19:20:21] <freacknate09OC> nvm, it is
L584[19:21:22] <freacknate09OC> it isnt getting properly called by .shrc
L585[19:22:27] <freacknate09OC> what line should i insert into .shrc?
L586[19:25:05] <freacknate09OC> +payonel: What line do i insert into .shrc to get my programs started by it?
L587[19:25:20] <payonel> each and every line in .shrc is run as a separate shell command
L588[19:25:32] <payonel> yes it should be empty on a clean install
L589[19:27:08] <freacknate09OC> ok, what shell command launches the program? i know i can launch it by typing its name if i am in the same dir, but .shrc isnt starting it
L590[19:27:30] <payonel> openos is centralized, though I always have modularity and posix behavior in mind
L591[19:27:40] <freacknate09OC> ok
L592[19:27:49] <payonel> to make it as easy as possible to have remote resources, or remote shells
L593[19:27:54] <freacknate09OC> ok
L594[19:27:58] <payonel> the remote shell work is something i plan to improve on
L595[19:28:12] <freacknate09OC> where is the kernel? how do i access the remote shell?
L596[19:28:37] <payonel> freacknate09OC: "by typing its name" to start a program, what, exactly, are you typing to run a file (manually, from the shell prompt)
L597[19:28:58] <freacknate09OC> i am trying to run a .lua file
L598[19:29:40] <freacknate09OC> if i were to run uptimewdgt.lua, i would type uptimewdgt if it is in the working directory
L599[19:29:47] <payonel> the "kernel" is really just the files that are loading during boot. openos does not enforce a kernel vs user boundary. /init.lua is the starting file of openos (run by the EEPROM), and /lib/core/boot.lua does the bulk of the boot work (returning to init.lua to start the shell)
L600[19:30:11] <freacknate09OC> ok
L601[19:30:24] <payonel> freacknate09OC: typing ONLY `uptimewdgt` in your shell prompt works because literally "." is in your $PATH
L602[19:30:55] <freacknate09OC> ok
L603[19:30:59] <payonel> using a path to refer to a file, such as `./uptimewdgt` does NOT use your $PATH to find it, but instead follows a relative path to run that file
L604[19:31:18] <freacknate09OC> ok
L605[19:31:23] <payonel> which is the typical linux way, in fact, having "." in $PATH is weird to me, but -- it makes things easier for our OC users
L606[19:31:24] <`> what concerns me most is that i'm only occasionally being pinged
L607[19:31:39] <freacknate09OC> hmm
L608[19:31:43] <payonel> :) sorry to cause you concern
L609[19:31:45] <`> also why are you going back and forth between ` and "
L610[19:32:01] <payonel> `: i use `...` for shell commands
L611[19:32:02] <freacknate09OC> ?
L612[19:32:05] <freacknate09OC> ahh
L613[19:32:58] <freacknate09OC> ': why is your username an apostrophe?
L614[19:33:02] <payonel> freacknate09OC: when .shrc is run, the PWD may not be in /home -- although I thought it was
L615[19:33:09] <payonel> freacknate09OC: it's a backtick
L616[19:33:12] <freacknate09OC> ahh
L617[19:33:32] <freacknate09OC> how do i set pwd to /home/prgms, which is where the file i want to run is
L618[19:33:36] <freacknate09OC> in the .shrc
L619[19:34:22] <payonel> sec
L620[19:34:36] <freacknate09OC> ok
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L623[19:39:13] <freacknate09OC> odd, i got dc'd
L624[19:42:01] <freacknate09OC> +payonal: are you back?
L625[19:44:21] <payonel> if you prefix a username with + it changes the name you are intending the ping
L626[19:44:26] <gamax92> Ahh that's a problem
L627[19:44:39] <payonel> and i'm always here, but generally afk
L628[19:44:43] <freacknate09OC> ok
L629[19:44:43] <payonel> gamax92: ?
L630[19:45:15] <payonel> freacknate09OC: i have a work thing i am attending to, i'll be back to troubleshoot in a few
L631[19:45:18] <freacknate09OC> the only reason i add the + is because your name is +payonel
L632[19:45:20] <freacknate09OC> ok
L633[19:45:38] <Mimiru> His name is payonel, "+" is his mode.
L634[19:45:44] <Mimiru> It means he's voiced.
L635[19:45:53] <Mimiru> "@" in mine means I'm an Op
L636[19:46:08] <gamax92> my wifi can't do ipv6
L637[19:46:15] <Mimiru> o_O
L638[19:46:18] <freacknate09OC> ahh
L639[19:46:42] <gamax92> so can't get into athena
L640[19:46:55] <Mimiru> I'm still waiting on a reply from them ._.
L641[19:52:33] <gamax92> Also my laptop's screen wouldn't turn on, even after a reboot not even the bios should show up
L642[19:52:56] <gamax92> I connected my monitor to it's vga port and the laptop screen came back on
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L647[20:39:18] <Mimiru> Damn it.. gamax92 I need to shutdown the VMs and stab myself in the head.
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L652[20:44:14] <Mimiru> gamax92?
L653[20:44:23] <gamax92> sorry had an issue with the tunnel
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L655[20:44:34] <gamax92> I'll close down quassel
L656[20:44:49] <Mimiru> can you issue a shutdown for me while you're there?
L657[20:44:53] <Mimiru> since I can't connect...
L658[20:44:57] <gamax92> alright
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L662[20:46:38] <payonel> freacknate09OC: so.....you've helped me uncover a bug
L663[20:46:39] <payonel> :/
L664[20:47:09] <gamax92> Mimiru: okay, should be shut down
L665[20:47:17] <Mimiru> Thanks
L666[20:47:35] <gamax92> (also it had said you were logged in over ssh and ... "seat0" whatever that is)
L667[20:47:43] <CompanionCube> seat0's a logind thing
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L669[20:54:00] <payonel> freacknate09OC: please update your mod again: http://ci.cil.li/job/OpenComputers-dev-MC1.10/
L670[20:54:02] <payonel> build 114
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L672[21:09:49] <freacknate09OC> updating now
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L675[21:14:41] <payonel> freacknate09OC: good. i also tested things like PWD when .shrc is running -- everything (as i had hoped and expected) is fully loaded by the time .shrc runs
L676[21:15:13] <payonel> so, you can use `file` or `file.lua` or `./file.lua` or `/home/file.lua` or ..etc
L677[21:15:20] <payonel> all work just fine
L678[21:21:38] <Mimiru> ifconfig
L679[21:21:40] <Mimiru> ._.
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L681[21:41:29] <CompanionCube> ifconfig?
L682[21:41:48] <Mimiru> yes.. I typed here instead of in my terminal
L683[21:45:05] <gamax92> Mimiru: can I bring stuff back up on athena or wait?
L684[21:46:01] <Mimiru> I assume it 's safe..
L685[21:47:16] <Mimiru> I'm looking at switching to VMWare... IDK why Hekate's network is so fucking slow..
L686[21:47:20] <Mimiru> Victory's is fine.
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L701[22:40:09] <freacknate09OC> hello
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L703[22:45:11] <payonel_webchat> Mimiru: sup
L704[22:45:14] <payonel_webchat> freacknate09OC: o/
L705[22:46:18] <Mimiru> payonel_webchat, I have no idea... Hekate just seems to not like the internet.
L706[22:46:32] <payonel_webchat> i get this: Disconnected from IRC (Server address is IPv4-only, but bindhost is IPv6-only). Reconnecting...
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L708[22:46:37] <payonel_webchat> i presume you know that
L709[22:47:04] <freacknate09OC> nice, i am connected
L710[22:47:24] <payonel_webchat> freacknate09OC: did you update and everything works?
L711[22:47:51] <Mimiru> ...
L712[22:47:53] * Mimiru sighs
L713[22:47:59] <freacknate09OC> payonel_webchat:I updated, havent tested .shrc
L714[22:48:17] <freacknate09OC> crud, my mouse isnt working
L715[22:48:43] <freacknate09OC> fixed
L716[22:49:46] <freacknate09OC> oi, .shrc is interperting everything as lua, not shell commands
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L718[22:51:39] <freacknate09OC> so .shrc is acting like a .lua file
L719[22:51:48] <Mimiru> I have no ipv6 dns now...
L720[22:51:50] <Mimiru> wtf
L721[22:52:12] <Mimiru> now.. it's just being stupid slow
L722[22:52:16] <Mimiru> I don't get this.
L723[22:53:01] <freacknate09OC> I dont get .shrc, it is not working as labeled
L724[22:54:05] <freacknate09OC> payonel_webchat: .shrc is not working
L725[22:54:11] <freacknate09OC> do i need to update my os?
L726[22:54:38] <Mimiru> most likely yes
L727[22:55:07] <freacknate09OC> ok, doing thatn ow
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L729[22:57:09] <freacknate09OC> .shrc is being processed like a lua file
L730[22:58:01] <Mimiru> payonel_webchat, ^
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L733[23:01:39] <payonel_webchat> o_O
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L735[23:02:30] <payonel_webchat> freacknate09OC: .shrc is being run as a lua file? based on what?
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L737[23:02:47] <payonel_webchat> Mimiru: sorry, my webchat doesn't ping me
L738[23:02:56] <payonel_webchat> or at least, i missed it if it did
L739[23:03:55] <Mimiru> payonel_webchat, if you still have your irc client up try doing /znc disconnect then /znc connect
L740[23:04:31] <freacknate09OC> when add shell commands, and run it, it throws errors, showing it being parsed and ran in lua, I will post screenshots
L741[23:04:52] <payonel_webchat> Mimiru: Connecting...
L742[23:05:20] <Mimiru> DNS resolution is stupid slow.. so give it a while
L743[23:05:25] <Mimiru> I don't understand the issue ._.
L744[23:06:05] <payonel_webchat> freacknate09OC: if i run `echo echo hi > .shrc` and then reboot, i see "hi" printed before the shell prompt
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L747[23:06:59] <Mimiru> hey.. it's a payonel
L748[23:07:00] <payonel> Mimiru: o/
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L750[23:07:08] <Mimiru> make sure to ident.. :P
L751[23:07:35] <payonel> thanks
L752[23:08:22] <freacknate09OC> hmm, i am actually editing the file, let me try that
L753[23:08:25] <Mimiru> if *anyone* has suggestions about why DNS resolution so damn slow... I'm open to ideas.
L754[23:10:20] <freacknate09OC> hmm, it worked
L755[23:10:28] <freacknate09OC> I was editing it, then running it, my noobmistake
L756[23:11:07] <freacknate09OC> how do i see my current ram usage on my ingame pc?
L757[23:11:15] <payonel> free
L758[23:11:19] <freacknate09OC> ok
L759[23:11:51] <freacknate09OC> is there a command to make it human readable?
L760[23:11:59] <payonel> haven't added that yet, no
L761[23:12:02] <payonel> it's just in bytes
L762[23:12:44] <freacknate09OC> ok, how do i do math on a variable?
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L764[23:12:54] <freacknate09OC> I may be able to add that ability
L765[23:13:03] <payonel> freacknate09OC: in lua. shell doesn't have a script language
L766[23:13:23] <freacknate09OC> ok
L767[23:13:29] <freacknate09OC> i am editing the free.lua
L768[23:14:20] <freacknate09OC> well, it shows total amount of mem fine, but not others
L769[23:15:53] <freacknate09OC> yay, it shows it in kb by default!
L770[23:16:53] <freacknate09OC> payonel: if i upload the file, will you consider including my edited version in the standard install of openos
L771[23:19:14] <payonel> 1. i work with PRs in github, and 2. for this specific change I'd want something a bit more flexible in output, like real-life free with -h, -k, and -m
L772[23:21:16] <freacknate09OC> ok, working on that
L773[23:21:35] <freacknate09OC> how do i go about making a PR?
L774[23:21:52] <payonel> https://help.github.com/articles/creating-a-pull-request/
L775[23:22:02] <freacknate09OC> ok
L776[23:23:05] <freacknate09OC> yeah, i may not do a pr yet
L777[23:23:09] <freacknate09OC> will*
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L781[23:25:29] <freacknate09OC> how do i add args to a program?
L782[23:26:32] <payonel> the args you pass on the command line are passed to the code as additional arguments: ...
L783[23:26:41] <payonel> so you can: local x, y, z = ...
L784[23:27:16] <payonel> typically a shell command takes args and options, and thus in openos it is typical to use shell.parse: local args, options = shell.parse(...)
L785[23:27:55] <payonel> in this case, `free -m` would give you options.m
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L788[23:29:24] <freacknate09OC> hmm, something broke man
L789[23:29:31] <freacknate09OC> the man program, i mean
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L792[23:32:05] <Mimiru> ._.
L793[23:37:48] <payonel> freacknate09OC: if you think openos has a bug - it should go without saying that i would need more info than "something broke"
L794[23:39:42] <freacknate09OC> I was trying to pinpoint it, i was going to add more info, then got sidetrack
L795[23:44:20] <freacknate09OC> the error appears to be in line 2 in more.lua actually
L796[23:45:16] <payonel> freacknate09OC: man works for me just fine
L797[23:45:49] <payonel> and line 2 is: local shell = require("shell")
L798[23:45:49] <freacknate09OC> hmm, the issue is in more.lua
L799[23:46:11] <payonel> if you can screenshot the error, that would be helpful
L800[23:47:33] <freacknate09OC> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B1vOBrqQvR8LWkRYU2VQY2Z4alE
L801[23:47:44] <freacknate09OC> that is a screenshot of the error when running "man man"
L802[23:48:19] <freacknate09OC> to be sure, i copied the more.lua from the install floppy, and deleted the one in my /bin
L803[23:48:30] <freacknate09OC> replacing it with the one on the openos floppy
L804[23:50:02] <Mimiru> ._. wtf corded..
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L806[23:50:24] <freacknate09OC> payonel: i can provide a zip of my ingame hardrive
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L809[23:52:58] <Mimiru> Test
L810[23:53:09] * Mimiru sighs
L811[23:54:41] <freacknate09OC> yeah, i just reinstalled my openos
L812[23:54:45] <freacknate09OC> same issue
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L814[23:56:11] <Mimiru> yay websocket timeout ._.
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L817[23:57:55] <freacknate09OC> who/what is corded?
L818[23:58:07] <Mimiru> The bot that bridges IRC and Discord.
L819[23:58:15] <freacknate09OC> ahh
L820[23:59:54] <payonel> freacknate09OC: sorry, i was afk, back now
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