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L18[02:09:30] <Saphire> http://imgur.com/gallery/v2VVu
L19[02:09:38] <Saphire> ...I really really hope it's not C#
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L34[02:43:23] <Dudblockman> I thought it was space engineers for a split second
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L37[02:52:32] <Syrren> Saphire: Holy shit that looks awesome *tries to throw money at screen*
L38[02:55:04] <Dudblockman> Shut up and take my... diamonds?
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L45[05:11:43] <The_Stargazer> I'm getting this error a lot lately: https://pastebin.com/fzbXZd63
L46[05:11:48] <The_Stargazer> Does anyone know what it is?
L47[05:11:59] <The_Stargazer> It also usually follows up with a crash.
L48[05:16:33] <Izaya> Your Minecraft seems to have run out of memory.
L49[05:17:48] <The_Stargazer> I know it's running out but why?
L50[05:18:53] <The_Stargazer> How is it possible for the game to use an entire 2GB of ram and crash with only 10 or so mods?
L51[05:19:12] <Izaya> It'll run out of memory and crash on vanilla with 2GB of memory
L52[05:19:19] <The_Stargazer> Really?
L53[05:19:26] <The_Stargazer> Never had that happen to me.
L54[05:19:36] <Skye> The_Stargazer, try foamfix
L55[05:19:43] <The_Stargazer> What it do?
L56[05:20:49] <The_Stargazer> Um
L57[05:20:53] <The_Stargazer> "post-1.7.10"
L58[05:20:56] <The_Stargazer> Yeah that's a no for me.
L59[05:21:21] <Izaya> There's mods that do it for 1.7.10 I'm p. sure
L60[05:21:34] <Skye> Doesn't it link to ways to do similar things on 1.7.10
L61[05:22:09] <The_Stargazer> Like Optifine?
L62[05:22:24] <Skye> I guess?
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L64[05:28:34] <The_Stargazer> A version modification designed to reduce RAM usage crashed my game by...
L65[05:28:40] <The_Stargazer> running out of memory!
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L67[05:29:00] <The_Stargazer> How ironic.
L68[05:29:10] <Izaya> Just give it more memory
L69[05:29:27] <The_Stargazer> But it's designed to make MC use LESS memory.
L70[05:29:46] <Izaya> Give Minecraft more memory.
L71[05:29:50] <The_Stargazer> I know
L72[05:30:11] <The_Stargazer> But the version mod makes MC run out of memory... but it's designed to do the exact opposite..
L73[05:30:33] <The_Stargazer> It also crashed without even getting to the title screen.
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L75[05:31:07] <The_Stargazer> So, giving MC more RAM would be a) counterproductive and b) also impossible.
L76[05:31:50] <Izaya> Remove the mod and deal with the crashes?
L77[05:31:56] <Izaya> Play on a server?
L78[05:32:06] <The_Stargazer> Why play on a server?!
L79[05:32:14] <The_Stargazer> How would that fix RAM issues?!
L80[05:32:33] <Izaya> You wouldn't be running the world
L81[05:32:38] <Izaya> or the computers
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L83[05:32:51] <The_Stargazer> But also it'd be non-superflat and probably have more than 10 mods.
L84[05:33:06] <The_Stargazer> A lot more than 10 mods.
L85[05:33:10] <Izaya> Use ocemu then
L86[05:33:16] * Izaya shrugs
L87[05:33:20] <The_Stargazer> but that's not ingame..
L88[05:33:28] <Izaya> I mean I have a server with 1 mod
L89[05:33:33] <Izaya> but it's in Australia.
L90[05:33:34] <The_Stargazer> That is?
L91[05:33:35] <Izaya> \o/
L92[05:33:39] <Izaya> OpenComputers
L93[05:33:40] <The_Stargazer> That mod being?
L94[05:33:41] <Inari> It might make MC use less memory, but MC needs a lot during bootup :P
L95[05:33:42] <The_Stargazer> Oh.
L96[05:33:49] <The_Stargazer> I know it does.
L97[05:34:14] <The_Stargazer> The problem is related to rendering (as hinted at by the words 'graphics card').
L98[05:34:43] <Izaya> uhm
L99[05:34:47] * Izaya hmms
L100[05:34:54] <The_Stargazer> also, I'd happily join your server. What's the IP?
L101[05:35:00] <Izaya> so uh
L102[05:35:03] <Izaya> it's 1.11.2
L103[05:35:07] <Izaya> and it's not PF'd rn
L104[05:35:12] <The_Stargazer> P what?
L105[05:35:18] <Izaya> portforwarded
L106[05:35:23] <The_Stargazer> Right.
L107[05:35:30] <The_Stargazer> Why have a server you can't use?
L108[05:35:38] <Izaya> It's on my LAN
L109[05:35:42] <The_Stargazer> LAN WORLDS MUCH
L110[05:35:48] <Izaya> no
L111[05:35:50] <Izaya> not much
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L113[05:35:58] <The_Stargazer> LAN worlds = lan server
L114[05:35:59] <Izaya> It's a dedicated server
L115[05:36:04] <Izaya> running on a dedicated virtual machine
L116[05:36:09] <The_Stargazer> ................................................
L117[05:36:11] <The_Stargazer> WHY!?
L118[05:36:13] <Izaya> with no form of display
L119[05:36:16] <The_Stargazer> oh.
L120[05:36:21] <The_Stargazer> the VM runs what OS
L121[05:36:26] <Izaya> Debian 8.
L122[05:36:35] <The_Stargazer> how much memory does it use
L123[05:36:59] <Izaya> It boots to about 32M but I don't have a GUI or anything I don't need for the Minecraft server and networking on there.
L124[05:37:14] <The_Stargazer> But... Why not use a LAN world?
L125[05:37:23] <Izaya> Because that needs a client?
L126[05:37:30] <Izaya> And I need this server running 24/7
L127[05:37:30] <The_Stargazer> and?
L128[05:37:33] <The_Stargazer> oh
L129[05:38:00] <The_Stargazer> why not just use a second PC
L130[05:38:04] <Izaya> I am.
L131[05:38:09] <The_Stargazer> oh ok
L132[05:38:12] <Izaya> It's running on my virtualization server.
L133[05:38:18] <The_Stargazer> Your what?
L134[05:38:19] <Izaya> In the server cupboard.
L135[05:38:22] <Izaya> With no display.
L136[05:38:25] <The_Stargazer> the what?
L137[05:38:31] <Izaya> A server for running virtual machines.
L138[05:38:41] <The_Stargazer> why is it in a dark musty cupboard
L139[05:38:48] <The_Stargazer> why a cupboard?!
L140[05:38:53] <Izaya> Because that cupboard has cooling and power and ethernet
L141[05:38:59] <The_Stargazer> uhh
L142[05:39:03] <Izaya> It's a cupboard specifically for servers >.>
L143[05:39:06] <The_Stargazer> do cupboards normally have those?
L144[05:39:07] <Izaya> Ever heard of a server rack
L145[05:39:10] <Izaya> ?
L146[05:39:11] <The_Stargazer> Yes.
L147[05:39:15] <Izaya> It's that.
L148[05:39:18] <The_Stargazer> Oh.
L149[05:39:24] <Izaya> Except I don't have a rackmount case for the server
L150[05:39:46] <Izaya> Oh did I mention why I'm running the server?
L151[05:39:51] <The_Stargazer> No.
L152[05:40:29] <Izaya> Uno momento
L153[05:40:36] <The_Stargazer> What?
L154[05:40:40] <The_Stargazer> One... something.
L155[05:40:43] <Izaya> moment
L156[05:40:47] <The_Stargazer> oh
L157[05:40:51] <The_Stargazer> please don't speak spanish
L158[05:41:02] <Izaya> ...
L159[05:41:06] <Izaya> Expression :P
L160[05:41:07] <The_Stargazer> i don't understand anything other than english
L161[05:41:44] <Izaya> Nor do I.
L162[05:41:54] <Izaya> Except for the occasional word in spanish or french or german or japanese
L163[05:41:59] <Izaya> That's a lie I don't know any french
L164[05:42:02] <Izaya> https://i.imgur.com/MK4bN1u.png
L165[05:42:08] <Izaya> ^ That is why I'm running the server
L166[05:42:18] <The_Stargazer> What's that?
L167[05:42:35] <Izaya> It is a large number of dedicated OpenComputers servers.
L168[05:42:44] <Izaya> 128, in fact
L169[05:42:56] <The_Stargazer> There's this nifty block called the rack
L170[05:43:04] <Izaya> psh
L171[05:43:05] <The_Stargazer> Why not use an ACTUAL SERVER
L172[05:43:12] <Izaya> inconvenient for my usecase
L173[05:43:16] <The_Stargazer> which is
L174[05:43:25] <Izaya> specialized dedicated server hosting
L175[05:43:28] <Izaya> :P
L176[05:43:39] <Izaya> in all seriousness
L177[05:43:40] <The_Stargazer> What?
L178[05:43:48] <Izaya> I can rate-limit any given machine by modifying the switch under it.
L179[05:43:53] <The_Stargazer> Ooooh.
L180[05:45:33] <The_Stargazer> How do I make OC use less RAM?
L181[05:45:55] <Izaya> Give each computer use less RAM? :P
L182[05:46:09] <The_Stargazer> ?
L183[05:46:44] <The_Stargazer> I don't mean 'make the computers use less RAM' I mean 'make MC use less RAM'
L184[05:47:01] <Izaya> memory is memory.
L185[05:47:02] <The_Stargazer> OC RAM isn't a problem I'm in creative mode I can spawn it in.
L186[05:47:16] <Inari> xD
L187[05:47:24] <Izaya> That's... not the point
L188[05:47:45] <Izaya> The point is if you put more memory in a computer it can use more memory of your Minecraft
L189[05:50:01] <Inari> I doubt it would make an ynotable difference though
L190[05:50:09] <Izaya> Yup.
L191[05:50:30] <Izaya> Think the issue comes down to the fact it has to use memory to re-render the screens when you draw to them
L192[05:50:39] <The_Stargazer> Ooooooh
L193[05:50:53] <The_Stargazer> would a chunkloader use less or more ram
L194[05:50:58] <The_Stargazer> actually, brb
L195[05:51:09] <Izaya> More, while you're not there.
L196[05:54:12] <Inari> Why would a chunkloader use less ram :|
L197[05:54:35] <Inari> Just buy more ram tbh :P
L198[05:54:49] <Forecaster> or better yet, download it
L199[05:54:56] <Forecaster> totally free
L200[05:55:06] <Izaya> virtual memory'
L201[05:55:14] <Inari> Forecaster: I mean
L202[05:55:15] <Inari> Its possible
L203[05:55:32] <Forecaster> https://downloadmoreram.com/
L204[05:55:37] <Inari> Well not with that
L205[05:55:59] <Inari> ram swapping, with it being stored in the net
L206[05:56:11] <Forecaster> but it has a progress bar and everything
L207[05:56:13] <Forecaster> 100% legit
L208[05:56:18] <Izaya> 101%
L209[05:56:28] <Inari> https://downloadmorerem.com/ is much better anyway
L210[05:58:41] <Forecaster> my computer doesn't support rem
L211[05:59:00] <Inari> You should update your browser then
L212[05:59:52] <Izaya> Inari: am I meant to be able to click on the number in the download meter, hold arrow keys and make it jump around?
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L215[06:02:44] * Izaya hmms
L216[06:02:50] <Izaya> if I were to open that server up more
L217[06:03:06] <Izaya> would anyone have any use for 24/7 OC computers in an otherwise entirely empty world?
L218[06:04:42] <Inari> We could host EnderBot3 there
L219[06:04:55] <Izaya> Might be more stable
L220[06:06:01] <Inari> Ashes of Creation sounds like ac ool MMO
L221[06:06:10] <Inari> Sadly the current release date is dec 2018
L222[06:06:15] <Inari> So a while off :P And then it migth be delayed
L223[06:06:47] <Forecaster> Inari: I said computer, not browser
L224[06:06:56] <Forecaster> my motherboard doesn't have any rem slots
L225[06:06:59] <Inari> Forecaster: It'spart of your computer :D
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L228[06:08:13] <Lizzy> where we hosting Endrebot3...?
L229[06:08:26] <Izaya> https://i.imgur.com/MK4bN1u.png here
L230[06:08:40] <Lizzy> bearing in mind it technically doesnt exist
L231[06:08:42] <Forecaster> were we enderbot all along
L232[06:09:20] <Izaya> so
L233[06:09:26] <Izaya> qt5 is obnoxious on Windows
L234[06:09:28] <Izaya> great
L235[06:09:29] <Izaya> it wants me to log in
L236[06:09:32] <Izaya> no.
L237[06:09:39] <Lizzy> lol?
L238[06:09:40] <Forecaster> qt5?
L239[06:09:57] <Skye> Izaya, Web app time.
L240[06:10:09] <Izaya> Forecaster: the GUI toolkit
L241[06:10:14] <Inari> I have a new idea, well it proabblya lready exists
L242[06:10:16] <Inari> SaaS
L243[06:10:19] <Inari> Shell as a Service
L244[06:10:30] <Forecaster> never heard of
L245[06:10:42] <Izaya> Inari: am already providing
L246[06:10:56] <Inari> Instead of having a shell installed, why not pay us $30/month for us to run it
L247[06:11:12] <Izaya> Forecaster: the fun part is that like 1/4 to 1/8 of your software probably uses qt
L248[06:11:17] <Inari> You get to run 500 commands a day with that
L249[06:11:26] <Inari> If you want 5000 you upgrade to the $50/month plan
L250[06:11:26] <Izaya> measuring it wrong
L251[06:11:40] <Izaya> have a hard limit on CPU time and interactive time
L252[06:11:45] <Izaya> 500 seconds of either
L253[06:11:49] <Izaya> whichever is reached first
L254[06:12:02] <Forecaster> I don't really care how the software was made...
L255[06:12:05] <Forecaster> that I use
L256[06:12:08] <Forecaster> it's irrelevant :P
L257[06:12:15] <Izaya> Forecaster: just an interesting thing
L258[06:12:18] <Izaya> \o/
L259[06:12:36] <Izaya> Normally I just use qt on linux for development like a sane person
L260[06:12:54] <Izaya> because developing on Windows is worse than pneumatically kicking whales down the beach, in my experience
L261[06:13:03] <Izaya> but Windows is my explicit target this time so x_x
L262[06:13:10] <Forecaster> no sane person develops
L263[06:13:21] <Izaya> true enough
L264[06:14:38] <Izaya> I'm a dumbass
L265[06:14:43] <Izaya> there was a hidden skip button
L266[06:14:46] <Izaya> POS
L267[06:15:09] <Forecaster> how hidden?
L268[06:15:19] <Izaya> know how people never look up?
L269[06:15:42] <Forecaster> was it on your ceiling?
L270[06:16:01] <Izaya> it was where the 'Next' button normally is so I assumed it was the 'Next' button and would complain when I pressed it without entering anything
L271[06:16:11] <Forecaster> ah
L272[06:16:21] <Forecaster> sneaky
L273[06:16:28] <Izaya> yup
L274[06:16:37] <Izaya> in all seriousness why the fuck does an IDE want me to register
L275[06:16:48] <Izaya> it's pretty much just gcc and some qt libs
L276[06:16:50] <Inari> Why not
L277[06:17:07] <Izaya> Because it doesn't need any registration?
L278[06:17:16] <Saphire> Izaya: gcc and qt libs ftw
L279[06:17:18] <Inari> Never stopped anyone
L280[06:17:21] <Saphire> Use use QT creator
L281[06:17:22] <Izaya> All I want it for is the qt libs and C(++) compiler
L282[06:17:34] <Izaya> Inari: which is most unfortunate
L283[06:17:53] <Izaya> Saphire: I mean that's what I'm installing
L284[06:17:57] <Izaya> Have you used it much?
L285[06:18:07] <Izaya> Does its editor support being replaced by some form of vim?
L286[06:20:21] <Izaya> kek
L287[06:20:28] <Izaya> Qt can export to the UWP
L288[06:20:32] <Izaya> like, that thing nobody uses
L289[06:20:49] <Izaya> I wonder what other weird things it can compile for
L290[06:21:01] <Izaya> if the UWP is in there maybe I can compile for the Apple Newton
L291[06:21:27] <Izaya> Maybe the Amiga
L292[06:21:40] * Izaya laughs manically
L293[06:26:07] * Forecaster snickers incrementally
L294[06:29:11] <Izaya> why would you ever distribute a 1GB file via direct download?
L295[06:29:27] <Forecaster> lack of caring?
L296[06:29:51] <Izaya> To be fair it's not the recommended installer
L297[06:29:57] <The_Stargazer> what's enderbot3?
L298[06:30:45] <Izaya> an IRC obt
L299[06:30:55] <The_Stargazer> which does?
L300[06:31:09] <Izaya> IRC bot stuff
L301[06:31:22] <The_Stargazer> like
L302[06:31:30] <Forecaster> no idea :P
L303[06:31:40] <Izaya> Why are you asking me?
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L305[06:32:53] <Izaya> thank fuck
L306[06:44:10] <MGR> "And I find it hilarious that this thing actually has proper bleeder resistors to discharge those caps. That's a safety thing. Safety costs money. What are we, millionaires?"
L307[06:53:35] <Inari> Izaya: Haha
L308[06:54:27] <Izaya> obviously
L309[06:54:31] <Izaya> any server on your local network
L310[06:54:35] <Izaya> is a client running a server
L311[06:55:13] <Izaya> in other news
L312[06:55:16] <Izaya> https://www.raptorcs.com/TALOSII/prerelease.php?target=2
L313[06:55:28] <Izaya> new TALOS design
L314[06:55:32] <Izaya> this one is meant to be cheaper
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L316[07:12:54] <vifino> Dunno about cheaper, but more competitive pricing.
L317[07:13:15] <vifino> Remember, this thing has dual power9 procs.
L318[07:16:09] <Inari> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFLXOhKXsAAZJAq.jpg:large
L319[07:34:58] <MGR> Is there plans for OpenComputers on MC 1.12?
L320[07:35:31] <Mimiru> Plans? sure.
L321[07:35:39] <Mimiru> Timeline, no.
L322[07:36:14] <MGR> Darn
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L324[08:22:14] <Izaya> vifino: I can dream that I could afford it
L325[08:33:31] <MGR> 'Me: "Well I don't have any diagnostics that are going to uncrack the screen"'
L326[08:33:57] <Forecaster> superglue
L327[08:34:28] <MGR> That won't uncrack it though
L328[08:34:44] <White Fyre> hey what can you do with OC and OMT
L329[08:35:33] <MGR> Open Modular Turrets?
L330[08:35:37] <White Fyre> yes
L331[08:35:50] <MGR> Well you can control them, which is something TACEATS will be updated to accomplish
L332[08:36:05] <White Fyre> like through video screen>
L333[08:36:10] <White Fyre> screen?
L334[08:36:16] <Forecaster> no
L335[08:36:18] <MGR> No
L336[08:36:32] <White Fyre> oh, how would you control them'
L337[08:36:43] <MGR> Can I PM you?
L338[08:36:49] <White Fyre> if you want
L339[08:44:07] <Izaya> ah yes the constant fucking PMs
L340[08:44:23] <Izaya> I find it amusing that MGR never says anything to anyone else while in a channel
L341[08:44:34] <MGR> What?
L342[08:44:53] <Izaya> at best you advertise
L343[08:45:14] <AmandaC> Izaya: how's he supposed to indoctronate people in public with people to call him out on his bullshit?
L344[08:45:14] <Forecaster> maybe you just don't pay attention to what he says :P
L345[08:45:16] <MGR> I'm currently not advertising
L346[08:46:26] <Izaya> 23:35 <+Corded> <MGR> Well you can control them, which is something TACEATS will be updated to accomplish
L347[08:46:29] <Izaya> k
L348[08:46:43] <Izaya> AmandaC: True enough, true enough.
L349[08:47:03] <MGR> A. I never indoctrinate people
L350[08:47:12] <MGR> B. I'm not even talking about any of my creations right now
L351[08:47:26] <Izaya> 23:35 <+Corded> <MGR> Well you can control them, which is something TACEATS will be updated to accomplish
L352[08:47:29] <Izaya> k
L353[08:47:41] <MGR> I'm talking about my current PM conversations
L354[08:47:53] <Forecaster> MGR don't bother
L355[08:48:17] <Forecaster> their minds are made up, it doesn't matter
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L357[08:48:19] <Izaya> oh thank fuck qt finished downloading
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L359[08:48:43] <Izaya> I can finally get to work on my open-source project I'm doing for a company and getting paid for
L360[08:48:49] <Izaya> which runs on Windows
L361[08:49:08] * AmandaC doesn't agree with pidgon holeing nublets into one-on-one convos to help them, it's better to provide help in public where multiple people can express the true spectrum of code.
L362[08:49:19] <Izaya> ^
L363[08:49:25] <MGR> I don't pidgeon hole
L364[08:49:30] * Forecaster doesn't care
L365[08:49:32] <Izaya> why help one person when you can have your help here
L366[08:49:37] <Izaya> where everyone can benifit?
L367[08:49:41] <Izaya> benefit?
L368[08:49:43] <AmandaC> ^
L369[08:49:50] <MGR> Because people interfere with me helping
L370[08:50:16] <Izaya> wonder why'
L371[08:50:45] *** MajGenRelativity_ is now known as MajGenRelativity
L372[08:51:16] <MGR> Because, according to some people, everything I do and am is evil
L373[08:51:50] <Izaya> AmandaC: I have a mostly unrelated question, if you'd care to answer?
L374[08:51:52] <AmandaC> @"White Fyre" the turrets are controlled by something called a component. They're available to OC computers / tablets / etc that allow them to interact with other mods, or other world systems. Like, for instance, the screen and keyboard and GPU in your OC computer are all components.
L375[08:52:11] <AmandaC> Izaya: suree?
L376[08:52:45] <Izaya> Would you say it's a better use of one's time to write code that everyone can use almost however they'd like than to write code that only a few people benifit from? (Benefit?)
L377[08:52:56] <MGR> It's benefit
L378[08:52:57] <AmandaC> @"White Fyre" You use them through the component API http://ocdoc.cil.li/api:component
L379[08:53:10] <MGR> AmandaC, all your @'s are coming out wrong btw
L380[08:53:24] <AmandaC> Izaya: I think both sides have merits, but I'm ambivilant
L381[08:53:34] <Izaya> Fair enough.
L382[08:53:35] * AmandaC pokes Michiyo "Is that not the hilight syntac?"
L383[08:53:51] <Michiyo> Yes, it should be.
L384[08:54:05] <MajGenRelativity> @MGR
L385[08:54:10] * Izaya pokes MichiBot
L386[08:54:10] * MichiBot squeaks!
L387[08:54:12] <MGR> That works
L388[08:55:02] <Forecaster> might've been because they went offline
L389[08:56:00] <Michiyo> @"White Fyre" Test
L390[08:56:25] <Michiyo> AmandaC, did you copy/pasta the name from your client?
L391[08:56:29] <AmandaC> yep
L392[08:57:31] <Michiyo> yeah, you caught the ZWS that Corded puts in for anti ping
L393[08:57:37] <AmandaC> ah
L394[08:57:39] <Michiyo> and I never strip it on incoming messages
L395[08:58:08] <Forecaster> my script strips it for me when coverting the messages :D
L396[08:59:38] * Michiyo pats Forecaster's head
L397[09:00:01] <Forecaster> :P
L398[09:00:27] <Forecaster> wait, didn't AmandaC have a relay converting script too
L399[09:00:31] <Forecaster> or was that someone else
L400[09:00:36] <AmandaC> nope
L401[09:00:41] <Forecaster> it's hard to keep track of who does and who doesn't
L402[09:01:51] <Michiyo> lol
L403[09:02:09] <Forecaster> I know Michiyo does, and maybe gamax92 I think :P
L404[09:02:23] <Forecaster> and I thought AmandaC did, but that was wrong!
L405[09:02:25] <Forecaster> D:
L406[09:02:46] <Michiyo> gamax92, wrote the base of the one I use, him, vex, and myself have modified the hell out of it since then lol
L407[09:03:29] <AmandaC> %choose code or peaceful galactic takeover
L408[09:03:30] <MichiBot> AmandaC: code
L409[09:03:51] <Forecaster> why wasn't violent galactic takeover an option?
L410[09:03:53] <AmandaC> %choose try and see if the OBS stuff is working or find something else to play with
L411[09:03:53] <MichiBot> AmandaC: try and see if the OBS stuff is working
L412[09:04:24] <Temia> Amanda! The galaxy is a piece of string that's trying to escape!
L413[09:05:38] <Izaya> MajGenRelativity: what I'm saying is that if you want to say it lets you keep track of conversations better, why not do it in public?
L414[09:05:44] <Izaya> It's hardly telling anyone their mother died
L415[09:05:49] <Izaya> PMs are unneccesary and annoying.
L416[09:06:22] <MGR> Doing it in PM's let's me search in that PM only
L417[09:06:29] <MGR> It makes digging through logs significantly easier
L418[09:06:54] <Izaya> MajGenRelativity: the amazing thing about IRC is that it's totally normal to have 4 conversations going at once
L419[09:07:10] <MGR> Ok
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L421[09:07:40] <Izaya> (For context, everyone, unless it's actually useful for it to be private, I will respond to PMs in public)
L422[09:08:31] <MGR> I'm aware of that
L423[09:09:14] <Forecaster> I reply to messages where I get them
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L425[09:10:16] <MGR> That's a better system
L426[09:10:26] <Forecaster> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L427[09:10:30] <Forecaster> it's what I prefer
L428[09:11:15] <Izaya> Generally speaking, I'd prefer discussion with more than two people.
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L430[09:11:23] * Izaya shrugs
L431[09:11:49] <Forecaster> I don't care about numbers
L432[09:12:10] <MGR> Depends on the type of conversation
L433[09:12:17] <Temia> Look, this sounds like a matter of personal preference.
L434[09:12:28] <Temia> If they want to talk in PM, let them talk in PM.
L435[09:12:59] <Temia> If it's about something that would be better served in a public forum, that's their loss.
L436[09:13:02] <MGR> It largely is a matter of personal preference
L437[09:13:37] <Izaya> Hey, I'm not dictating what other people do.
L438[09:14:08] <Temia> No, just openly judging them. :P
L439[09:14:26] <Izaya> What's new?
L440[09:14:36] <Temia> That's the sad part.
L441[09:14:45] <Izaya> Yup. I'm a sad, sad person.
L442[09:15:12] <Temia> So long as you're not using it as an excuse for your behaviour, that's fine.
L443[09:16:45] * Izaya shrugs
L444[09:16:52] <Izaya> Perhaps I'll just cease responding to PMs.
L445[09:17:17] <Temia> That's your perogative.
L446[09:17:32] <Izaya> There's a flag so you don't even recieve them, right?
L447[09:18:35] <MGR> That seems like a potentially unwise maneuver
L448[09:19:00] <Izaya> Anything worth saying is worth saying in public.
L449[09:19:05] <Izaya> Anywho, I'm off to bed.
L450[09:19:50] <MGR> That is verifiably untrue
L451[09:20:18] <MGR> By that logic, every piece of information ever known should be accessible to everyone
L452[09:20:32] <MGR> Including information on how to make nuclear, biological, chemical, etc. weapons
L453[09:22:39] <Izaya> Perhaps weapons aren't worth saying.
L454[09:23:59] <MGR> That's not the point
L455[09:28:46] * AshIndigo boops MichiBot
L456[09:28:46] * MichiBot squeaks!
L457[09:36:00] <Michiyo> So.. I've got an infection by my wisdom tooth cause it seems I don't have room for them, I've got an ear infection, and now a cold.
L458[09:36:11] <Michiyo> It's truck day, I forgot my inhaler again.
L459[09:36:15] <Michiyo> I'm gonna shoot myself.
L460[09:36:16] <Forecaster> so all in all, blergh
L461[09:36:30] <Forecaster> do you have a gun handy?
L462[09:37:34] <MGR> Michiyo, that's pretty bad
L463[09:41:08] <Michiyo> Forecaster, no, but I live in Arkansas, in a town of ~8,000 theres atleast 14,000 guns in this tiny ass place.
L464[09:41:17] <Forecaster> yesh
L465[09:42:10] <Michiyo> \o/ Rednecks.
L466[09:42:18] <Forecaster> :I
L467[09:42:38] <MGR> That's right
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L469[09:42:54] <MGR> You could fight a small war with the amount of guns and ammo there, right Mimiru?
L470[09:43:10] <Michiyo> basically :/
L471[09:43:28] <Forecaster> gonna be handy in an apocalypse at least :P
L472[09:43:35] <Forecaster> if the apocalypse can be shot
L473[09:45:03] <MGR> Forecaster, trust me, it doesn't matter if the apocalypse can be shot, Muricans will try to do so anyways
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L475[09:45:57] * AshIndigo looks at his non existent guns
L476[09:47:23] <Syrren> if the apocalypse can't be shot it just means you didn't use enough boolet
L477[09:47:53] <Forecaster> and if it still doesn't work you try to blow it up instead
L478[09:48:43] <MGR> Now you're getting it
L479[09:52:43] <vifino> Forecaster: i do as well.
L480[09:52:53] <vifino> (relay converting script thing.)
L481[09:54:12] <Forecaster> \o/
L482[09:55:51] <vifino> Took a bit to reply, was taking apart my taranis.
L483[09:56:10] <AshIndigo> Taranis?
L484[09:56:11] <Forecaster> is that like a tardis?
L485[09:56:16] <Forecaster> :P
L486[09:56:20] <vifino> No, FrSky Taranis.
L487[09:56:37] <vifino> FrSky Taranis X9E Plus Special Edition, to be exact.
L488[09:56:56] * AshIndigo flies to google
L489[09:57:16] <vifino> It's a remote control for planes and multicopters, generally anthing not a car.
L490[09:57:23] <Forecaster> ah
L491[09:57:39] <vifino> A pretty awesome one, at that.
L492[09:58:00] <AshIndigo> Looks fancy
L493[09:58:08] <vifino> 16 channels, external XJT bay, open source firmware.
L494[09:59:25] <vifino> SE basically means upgraded gimbals, colorful case with some motif and an RP-SMA connector, which was missing on mine.
L495[10:00:42] <vifino> I bought a "Basically new" one, that had two switches not working and no exchangable antenna, just now fixed the switches, reduced the strain on the gimbal wires and replaced the antenna with a u.FL RP-SMA pigtail and some random antenna.
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L498[10:12:26] <MGR> "$Client: Our building uses special Dilithium crystal filters that two of your competitors said they could replace at no additional cost. What is your feeling on this matter?"
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L500[10:18:55] <Saphire> "Lol good luck"
L501[10:19:03] <Saphire> All anyone can say
L502[10:19:13] <MGR> It was a test question
L503[10:19:27] <MGR> The person said "That's from Star Trek, not a real thing" and they got the contract
L504[10:19:34] <MGR> The client was testing to see if they were honest
L505[10:19:37] * Saphire needed google in there
L506[10:20:41] <Saphire> ...also, curse wiki for tossing an article about Li2
L507[10:21:04] <Saphire> ...which seems to be useless, hm.
L508[10:22:46] <Saphire> MGR: and if they said "I don't watch Star Trek"?
L509[10:22:47] <MGR> heh
L510[10:23:05] <MGR> Saphire, idk, but it worked out well, so \o/
L511[10:27:54] <DaMachinator> are you reading /r/talesfromtechsupport/top
L512[10:29:30] <MGR> I'm reading tales from techsupport, yes
L513[10:30:07] <gamax92> I'm sitting in bed
L514[10:31:17] * AshIndigo is pretty sure that his phone has over 200 tabs open
L515[10:31:50] <gamax92> your phone is hiding something from you
L516[10:35:00] <AshIndigo> O.o
L517[10:35:02] <AshIndigo> 341
L518[10:37:16] <Forecaster> I have like 5 on my phone
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L520[10:47:15] * AmandaC has 5
L521[10:47:18] <AmandaC> s/5/4/
L522[10:47:19] <MichiBot> * AmandaC has 4
L523[10:47:37] <MGR> If I'm not on a TV Tropes spree, I usually have 3-5 tabs open on my phone
L524[10:47:42] <Forecaster> I keep most of mine on my computer browsers
L525[10:47:51] <MGR> Same
L526[10:47:55] <AmandaC> my laptop has 3
L527[10:48:27] <Forecaster> I have a little over a hundred spread out over browsers, windows and groups...
L528[10:48:55] <Forecaster> most of them are "I'll check this later" or "I'll need this at some point" :P
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L530[10:49:17] * AmandaC gets antsy around 10 tabs
L531[10:52:53] <Forecaster> I don't have any tabs with ants in them honest!
L532[10:53:18] <Dudblockman> TV Tropes is a trap
L533[10:53:43] <Dudblockman> Just sucks you in and suddenly you realize hours have passed
L534[10:53:54] <Forecaster> so don't go on there :P
L535[10:54:37] <MGR> @Dudblockman#7621 It is a trap
L536[10:54:43] <MGR> @Dudblockman
L537[10:54:50] <MGR> Forecaster, it draws you in
L538[10:55:12] <Forecaster> I know :P
L539[10:56:26] * Saphire nibbles on AmandaC, getting those ants out of her fur
L540[10:57:05] <Dudblockman> https://youtu.be/V2CSk8oqkbA?t=8s
L541[10:57:07] <MichiBot> Help, we're being sucked in! | length: 14s | Likes: 6 Dislikes: 0 Views: 261 | by theultimategamer95 | Published On 12/1/2015
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L546[11:34:17] <MGR> "Given the diagram of a room, which device would work best for WiFi? a) Some brand I never heard of, b) Some brand I never heard of, or c) Cisco brand device. Considering this was a Cisco test, I went with c!"
L547[11:44:42] <AshIndigo> No it was d!
L548[11:56:03] <Lizzy> Lol
L549[12:00:27] <MGR> Heh
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L557[12:36:09] <MGR> "$HelpDesk: Very good, sir. I understand you believe the power supply just caught on fire. I am unable to see it on the network. Is the system currently on?"
L558[12:50:34] <Dudblockman> Sounds about right
L559[12:53:24] <MGR> Yep
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L561[13:22:08] <Michiyo> http://www.metalinjection.net/latest-news/linkin-parks-chester-bennington-commits-suicide-rip :/
L562[13:42:23] <Forecaster> it keeps timing out for me
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L564[14:14:54] <Michiyo> http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/rock/7873783/linkin-park-chester-bennington-suicide
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L569[14:36:39] <Dustpuppy> hi
L570[14:37:34] <Dustpuppy> is there anywhere a list, wich port to use for what service?
L571[14:53:39] <AshIndigo> Define service
L572[14:54:09] <Dustpuppy> like 21 = ftp, 9100 = print, 80 = http
L573[14:54:25] <AshIndigo> Ah
L574[14:55:04] <AshIndigo> http://www.pearsonitcertification.com/articles/article.aspx?p=1868080
L575[14:55:08] <Dustpuppy> anykind of standard i mean. it's not a good idea, if everyone use his own ports on a modem
L576[14:55:11] <AshIndigo> Does this.look.good?
L577[14:56:00] <Dustpuppy> the tcp/ip ports i know, but i mean special for oc
L578[14:56:09] <AshIndigo> Wikipedia also has a list
L579[14:56:53] <AshIndigo> I don't imagine oc would have a special port list
L580[14:57:17] <Dustpuppy> it would be a good idea
L581[14:57:52] <AshIndigo> What for?
L582[14:58:42] <AshIndigo> Unless your doing some network shennagins on a multiplayer server I don't feel the need :/
L583[14:58:45] <Dustpuppy> i am using the tcp ports. but what happens, if i make a printserver on port 9100 and someone else use this port in his software for transfering message about big reactors
L584[14:59:41] <AshIndigo> Eh? Are you talking about oc ports or real life ports?
L585[15:00:03] <Dustpuppy> oc ports
L586[15:01:15] <AshIndigo> And that implies you 2 are in range
L587[15:01:45] <AshIndigo> I would go with diplomacy honestly
L588[15:02:00] <Dustpuppy> no, but it would be nice, if a kind of standard is given
L589[15:02:33] <AshIndigo> List a few universal things that need standard ports?
L590[15:03:13] <Dustpuppy> printing, ftp, filesystem access, messages
L591[15:04:43] <AshIndigo> Oc has native ftp? (By native I mean a loot disk or something in openos)
L592[15:06:05] <Dustpuppy> no, but i've seen some programs for network filesystem. if they all would use the same port, you can choose, what server or what client software u use
L593[15:06:16] <Dustpuppy> test
L594[15:06:22] <Dustpuppy> ups...
L595[15:08:03] <AshIndigo> Hrm
L596[15:08:09] <AshIndigo> %xkcd standards
L597[15:08:11] <MichiBot> AshIndigo: https://xkcd.com/927/ - *xkcd: Standards*: "Permanent link to this comic: https://xkcd.com/927/ Image URL (for hotlinking/ embedding): https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/standards.png. HOW STANDARDS ..."
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L602[15:25:04] <MGR> Dustpuppy, I maintain an OC port list
L603[15:25:25] <MGR> https://oc.cil.li/index.php?/topic/1232-oetf-8-allocated-network-card-port-numbers/
L604[16:07:33] <Forecaster> oh hey
L605[16:07:40] <Forecaster> cookie clicker is being updated again
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L613[16:39:36] <Temia> I should probably figure out an IMAP client for this iteration of my workstation.
L614[17:29:31] <Dustpuppy> the gui lib is getting more and more an os, then a lib
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L627[21:22:51] <SF-MC> o/
L628[21:43:49] <AmandaC> %choose watch more or sleep
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L630[21:44:30] <AmandaC> RIP
L631[21:44:37] <AmandaC> Sleep it is I guess
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L633[22:35:09] <SF-MC> ok
L634[22:35:10] <SF-MC> sooo
L635[22:35:25] <SF-MC> hm
L636[22:36:11] <Mimiru> %choose merp or meep
L637[22:36:12] <MichiBot> AmandaC: sleep
L638[22:36:13] <MichiBot> Mimiru: meep
L639[22:36:17] <Mimiru> lol wut
L640[22:36:18] <SF-MC> lol
L641[22:36:27] <SF-MC> %choose herp or derp
L642[22:36:28] <MichiBot> SF-MC: herp
L643[22:36:36] <SF-MC> I was ready for that not to work
L644[22:37:07] <SF-MC> so what's the best way to monitor the work status of a quary that I'm going to end up moving
L645[22:37:08] <SF-MC> ?
L646[22:37:34] <SF-MC> (I want to poll component.peripheral.hasWork() until false and then move it with a robot)
L647[22:37:57] <SF-MC> I'd use a uC, but no external components :(
L648[22:38:35] <SF-MC> That's the same for robots, right?
L649[22:38:40] <SF-MC> No external components?
L650[22:39:01] <SF-MC> yeah
L651[22:40:11] <SF-MC> IMO, I think it's no fun that uCs can't do external components
L652[22:40:35] <SF-MC> Half the things that I think a uC would be great for are based around controlling external component
L653[22:44:07] <gamax92> the uC's are basically useless
L654[22:44:24] <SF-MC> that makes me sad :(
L655[22:45:04] <SF-MC> I think a little dedicated drop-and-power machine that didn't require having to refill components
L656[22:45:05] <gamax92> We need to scap OC and rebuild it
L657[22:45:09] <SF-MC> would be totally kick ass
L658[22:45:19] <SF-MC> Can't tell if serious or joking
L659[22:45:37] <gamax92> well a conversion effort was once upon a time happening
L660[22:46:12] <SF-MC> Conversion?
L661[22:46:25] <gamax92> to Java
L662[22:46:34] <SF-MC> that's what I thought
L663[22:46:50] <SF-MC> any particular reason, other than perhaps increased familiarity for other developers?
L664[22:50:05] <SF-MC> IMO I don't see what's wrong with Scala, but I'm not a OC dev
L665[22:50:28] <SF-MC> There is a part of me that really wants to write a mod in Clojure
L666[22:50:36] <SF-MC> I just don't have enough mod experience to do that
L667[22:50:41] <gamax92> SF-MC: lack of information can make Scala a little hard to follow
L668[22:51:00] <SF-MC> insofaras that's more new things to try at once than is probably a good idea
L669[22:51:10] <gamax92> since Scala allows you to omit a lot of information, relying on the compiler to figure it out itself
L670[22:51:21] <SF-MC> like types and whatnot?
L671[22:51:45] <gamax92> yeah, also the "return" keyword
L672[22:52:00] <SF-MC> the whole keyword is optional?
L673[22:52:04] <SF-MC> That's... rather weird
L674[22:52:26] <SF-MC> or is Scala like Lisp in that everything implicitly returns the last value?
L675[22:52:49] <gamax92> last value type thing
L676[22:53:00] <SF-MC> ah, that's not so weird to me then
L677[22:53:11] <SF-MC> then again, I'm a weirdo that likes Lisp, sooo :)
L678[22:55:04] <gamax92> IntelliJ has a desugar thing but it doesn't at all work for me :/
L679[23:11:47] <SF-MC> IMO it's kind of a pain when an engineering challenge has been made logistically difficult
L680[23:11:55] <SF-MC> to the point of being practically impossible
L681[23:13:50] <SF-MC> o/, dinner
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L683[23:37:52] <Temia> blerf.
L684[23:38:03] <Temia> ALSA dmix isn't behaving properly on HDMI output
L685[23:38:10] <Temia> This is frustrating, to say the least. :T
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