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L5[02:20:55] <mrex7> Hallo, can me somebody help. I have a OPPM Package but after the download i need to run a installation script what is the best way for that?
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L7[02:28:20] <fingercomp> oppm doesn't have triggers, so you have to run the script manually
L8[02:30:18] <mrex7> i know but how
L9[02:30:32] <mrex7> i tried to put this in /boot
L10[02:30:36] <mrex7> it was big fail
L11[02:30:45] <mrex7> autorun.lua its not best
L12[02:30:55] <payonel> what went wrong with /boot ?
L13[02:31:00] <payonel> what is wrong with autorun.lua ?
L14[02:31:06] <payonel> you can also use /home/.shrc
L15[02:31:35] <fingercomp> I don't think mrex7 wants to run that script every time the shell starts
L16[02:31:47] <mrex7> i used boot and script maked some error which dont maked if i run it manually
L17[02:31:50] <payonel> i think youre right
L18[02:32:05] <mrex7> autorun.lua could be exist and it will destroy it
L19[02:32:25] <Izaya> mrex7: attach something to the bottom of /home/.shrc
L20[02:32:30] <Izaya> then use a pattern to remove your line
L21[02:32:41] <payonel> mrex7: autorun.lua, /boot/ scripts, and .shrc run every time you boot your computer
L22[02:32:50] <payonel> if you are having problems with those, we can talk about those problems
L23[02:33:11] <payonel> but like fingercomp said, i think you want something to run once after you install something from oppm?
L24[02:33:57] <mrex7> autorun.lua is not best way because only one can exist
L25[02:34:34] <mrex7> .shrc is file what have to be changed manually or by a running script
L26[02:34:40] <mrex7> oppm can only download files
L27[02:35:21] <payonel> mrex7: how often do you want your script run?
L28[02:35:26] <payonel> once after install or every boot?
L29[02:35:28] <mrex7> once
L30[02:35:43] <payonel> then you'll have to run it manually, once, after oppm install
L31[02:36:07] <mrex7> if i run mannually script for what i need oppm?
L32[02:36:26] <mrex7> for downloading?
L33[02:36:30] <payonel> to download the scripts in the first place, and whatever else you want to install
L34[02:37:40] <payonel> oppm can also add a file to /boot
L35[02:37:47] <payonel> so it'll autorun on next boot
L36[02:38:02] <payonel> and it can delete itself or whatever
L37[02:38:18] <mrex7> yes boot maked some eror with my script
L38[02:38:27] <payonel> what error?
L39[02:39:08] <mrex7> i taked 98
L40[02:39:18] <mrex7> and and booting commin a blue screen
L41[02:40:31] <mrex7> with error boot.lua:71 term.lua:104 atempt to compare nil with number
L42[02:41:12] <payonel> what version of openos? or what version of oc?
L43[02:41:49] <mrex7> 1.6.2.7
L44[02:42:09] <mrex7> os 1.6.1
L45[02:46:25] <mrex7> if i run the script manually no problem, but i put it in boot folder system dont booting up
L46[02:46:38] <payonel> you were calling term.read() from a boot script?
L47[02:47:05] <mrex7> no the script doin allready all the things i need
L48[02:47:19] <payonel> in your script, were you calling term.read ?
L49[02:47:28] <mrex7> i callin io.read
L50[02:47:41] <mrex7> and term.clear()
L51[02:47:47] <payonel> ok, io.read calls term.read
L52[02:48:04] <payonel> boot is too early to use the gpu
L53[02:48:17] <payonel> term.read deals with the cursor
L54[02:49:10] <mrex7> ok if i change with this script rc.cfg and booting again with rc i can use term right?
L55[02:50:31] <payonel> keyboard input and gpu output should occur after your shell loads, so /home/.shrc
L56[02:50:55] <payonel> the rc services start as a boot script as well
L57[02:51:03] <mrex7> ok i think i have solution
L58[02:51:13] <mrex7> thank you for helping
L59[02:52:14] <mrex7> ^^ but one thing i have oppm should have a parameters for this scripts, at linux package manager doing this too
L60[02:59:41] * Saphire chuckles
L61[02:59:50] <Saphire> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=what%20a%20thrill
L62[03:03:27] <Izaya> never really played any of the MGS games
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L74[06:25:09] <Forecaster> I like how it's defined twice
L75[06:25:26] <Forecaster> once with a lower case w, once with an upper case w
L76[06:31:04] <Inari> I hate thats theres no good English way to say "VIel Erfolg"
L77[06:31:31] <Inari> Theres supposedly Godspeed/Good speed
L78[06:31:37] <Inari> But I've never seen people reallyuse that
L79[06:31:55] <Inari> And "good luck" but that always soundslike it implies the person requires luck to succeed
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L85[07:20:38] <Cruor> Inari: godspeed? i need gods help to do stuff?
L86[07:20:40] <Cruor> rude.
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L88[07:22:06] <Forecaster> or it means you need gods help to do it quickly :P
L89[07:22:14] <Cruor> Inari: as google translates suggest... "i wish you success"
L90[07:22:18] <Cruor> what is wrong with that <_<
L91[07:22:24] <Inari> It sounds awkward
L92[07:22:30] <Vexatos> because you don't say it in English
L93[07:22:39] <Vexatos> You just say "Good luck"
L94[07:22:58] <Inari> German has taught me to not say good luck :P
L95[07:23:08] <Cruor> we use "håper det går bra" "håper du klarer det" in norwegian .-.
L96[07:23:12] <Cruor> which is basicly the same thing
L97[07:23:22] <Cruor> and that sounds about as stupid as "i hope you can make it" <_<
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L108[08:14:40] <20kdc> Cruor: May the odds be ever in your favour.
L109[08:15:14] <Cruor> but that sounds like luck D:
L110[08:15:30] <20kdc> Cruor: May motivation not abscond you.
L111[08:15:37] <Cruor> .-.
L112[08:15:57] <20kdc> ...what? It's a fancy way of saying "May motivation not leave you."
L113[08:16:12] <Cruor> its getting pretty advanced in here
L114[08:27:01] * Saphire shakes Inari
L115[08:27:05] <Saphire> ...no wait, not you
L116[08:27:10] * Saphire shakes Izaya
L117[08:27:45] <Izaya> huh?
L118[08:28:20] <Saphire> What have you done q-q
L119[08:28:28] <Saphire> Firefox is getting more and more terrible D:
L120[08:28:42] <Izaya> Me?
L121[08:28:44] <Izaya> Abandoned it.
L122[08:31:28] <Saphire> What are you using now?
L123[08:31:40] <Saphire> And... seriously, it ate 6GB of my fucking RAM
L124[08:31:56] <Saphire> Of course, that's nightly version... But, that's a bit too much.
L125[08:32:41] <Izaya> tbh I use qutebrowser with the qtwebengine background for everything except school stuff now
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L127[09:13:14] * AmandaC wonders why Izaya would be to blame for firefox sucking
L128[09:14:08] <Izaya> I've been blamed for even worse stuff
L129[09:14:17] <Izaya> None of it was true, of course.
L130[09:14:35] * AmandaC stares cautiously at Izaya, slowly bringing up his rap sheet
L131[09:15:54] <Izaya> Wrap sheet? Shit! You're gonna line the walls with it then shoot me :<
L132[09:15:56] * Izaya runs
L133[09:16:25] * AmandaC talks into her left paw "Subject has gone out the east window, MOVE MOVE MOVE"
L134[09:17:58] * Izaya sshs into his box at home and commands it to destroy the evidence
L135[09:19:22] <Forecaster> when they announced the dropping of the old plugin system I stopped updating FF
L136[09:21:26] * Saphire wraps AmandaC in a blanket and grooms
L137[09:21:36] * AmandaC meeps
L138[09:21:50] * Saphire clips claws >:D
L139[09:21:51] * AmandaC gets distracted immediately by the grooming though
L140[09:21:55] <AmandaC> D:
L141[09:22:12] <AmandaC> I need those! Those are the essential part of my murder mittens!
L142[09:22:13] <Saphire> Nya :3
L143[09:22:35] <Saphire> Nuuu, bad kitty! You don't murder anyone... by yourself.
L144[09:22:57] * Saphire gives AmandaC a remote from a killdrone.
L145[09:23:50] * Skye finds a crowbar and hides
L146[09:24:02] * Izaya hides with Skye
L147[09:24:03] <AmandaC> Pfft those things have too much kickback, if you miss they'll be out of whack for seconds!
L148[09:24:52] * Saphire shrugs
L149[09:25:07] <Saphire> I tend to usea few.. dozens, actually.
L150[09:28:57] <gamax92> o.o
L151[09:29:42] * gamax92 goes back to bed.
L152[09:32:13] <Saphire> I...
L153[09:32:18] <Saphire> I jus topened agar.io
L154[09:32:28] <Saphire> What. The Fuck?
L155[09:32:48] <Saphire> Why.. why there is so many, uh... things. Why there is /registration/?!
L156[09:32:48] * AmandaC lays on gamax92's chest, to make him wake back up
L157[09:33:00] * Saphire lies down on AmandaC
L158[09:33:04] <AmandaC> D:
L159[09:36:53] <Inari> Saphire: things?
L160[09:38:04] * gamax92 is being pinned down by a large cat .-.
L161[09:38:37] * AmandaC gets off of gamax92's chest, cuddles back up in Inari's lap
L162[09:39:04] <gamax92> b-but come back :<
L163[09:40:18] <Inari> %pet AmandaC
L164[09:40:19] * MichiBot pets AmandaC with ApolloCheese. AmandaC recovers 3 health!, ApolloCheese melts into a puddle of unidentifiable goo.
L165[09:40:34] <AmandaC> D:
L166[09:40:48] <Temia> Ooh, cheese dip.
L167[09:41:13] * Inari wants ovencheese or cheese pizza now
L168[09:41:31] * AmandaC baps at Inari for causing her fur to be soaked with melted cheese
L169[09:41:35] * Saphire sits on gamax92 then!
L170[09:42:14] * Inari mollifies AmandaC with scritches
L171[09:42:29] <AmandaC> damn, my one weakness!
L172[09:42:45] <Inari> What about catnip?
L173[09:42:46] <Inari> Belly rubs?
L174[09:42:48] <Inari> Fish?
L175[09:43:04] <AmandaC> maybe, yes, NO
L176[09:43:21] <gamax92> what about a brush
L177[09:43:22] <Inari> Well it is a weakness, just a different kind of it
L178[09:43:23] <Inari> ;)
L179[09:43:33] <Inari> gamax92: lewd
L180[09:43:42] <gamax92> Not really
L181[09:44:24] <Saphire> What
L182[09:44:27] <Saphire> The
L183[09:44:29] <Saphire> FUCK
L184[09:44:32] * Saphire flips
L185[09:44:39] <Saphire> >booster packs
L186[09:44:42] <gamax92> ow
L187[09:44:42] <Saphire> >BOOSTER PACKS
L188[09:44:45] <Saphire> .IN AGAR.IO
L189[09:44:51] <Saphire> Just...
L190[09:44:52] <AshIndigo> The hell?
L191[09:44:54] * Saphire sighs
L192[09:44:57] <Saphire> AshIndigo: YES
L193[09:45:17] <Mettaton_Fab> its focking cancer now.
L194[09:45:19] <Saphire> You can apparently boost your starting mass there
L195[09:45:42] * gamax92 cleans off AmandaC fur and gives scritches
L196[09:45:55] * AmandaC cuddles up against gamax92 , purring softly.
L197[09:46:04] * AshIndigo gives up on humanity
L198[09:46:32] * Saphire hugs AshIndigo
L199[09:46:42] <Saphire> Come to draconity, we have gems :D
L200[09:47:17] * gamax92 gives pettings
L201[09:47:22] * AshIndigo goes to draconity
L202[09:47:45] * AshIndigo also returns the hug
L203[09:48:13] <gamax92> AshIndigo be a dragon now
L204[09:48:22] * Saphire giggles and scritches the cats
L205[09:48:38] <Inari> I thought dragons are more famously interested in gold than gems
L206[09:49:01] * AshIndigo is now a dragon!
L207[09:50:07] <AmandaC> just never tell AshIndigo when his birthday is! He'll go into a greed binge and grow up too fast
L208[09:50:59] <AshIndigo> My birthday was about 2 months ago
L209[09:51:39] <AmandaC> you're *human* birthday, sure
L210[09:54:33] <gamax92> My cats love being brushed, they'll run over to me when they hear or see it
L211[09:54:42] <Turtle> hmpf. For some reason my minecraft dev env setup causes the display gamma to get fucky when the game is closed. ಠ_ಠ
L212[09:55:17] <Inari> gamax92: burshed can be lewd though! esp. paint brushes
L213[09:55:28] * Saphire tickles Inari with brushes!
L214[09:55:35] <Inari> %stab Saphire
L215[09:55:36] <gamax92> So can everything, Inari
L216[09:55:36] * MichiBot hits Saphire with union-jack panties doing [9] damage, union-jack panties falls into a chasm.
L217[09:55:48] <AshIndigo> D:
L218[09:56:05] * AshIndigo baps Inari
L219[09:56:12] <Inari> What
L220[09:56:18] <gamax92> Go use your imagination more, omg a piece of paper? so lewd.
L221[09:57:01] <gamax92> DVD player, why do you have such lewd things
L222[09:57:31] <gamax92> look at the lewd watch
L223[09:57:38] <gamax92> Everything is lewd with you
L224[09:57:53] <gamax92> It's basically the new norm
L225[09:59:41] <Saphire> Wait
L226[09:59:47] <Saphire> If everything Inari is doing is lewd...
L227[09:59:55] <Saphire> Does this mean that Inari is never lewd then?
L228[09:59:59] <gamax92> yep
L229[10:03:00] <gamax92> I need to make something for breakfast ...
L230[10:05:32] * Saphire puts salad on gamax92
L231[10:05:35] <Saphire> Breakfast!
L232[10:06:06] <gamax92> Well, I was thinking more like, pancakes
L233[10:06:37] <gamax92> As we have way too much buttermilk here
L234[10:08:48] <Saphire> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ti8E1q2cdRA
L235[10:08:48] <MichiBot> Dovahbear Part 4 (Skyrim Cartoon) - Bowz | length: 3m 42s | Likes: 9,479 Dislikes: 142 Views: 179,640 | by Bowz | Published On 24/6/2017
L236[10:08:50] <Saphire> O.O
L237[10:09:55] <Turtle> Nevermind, it´s not a dev env issue. It´s mojang not patching bugs from 2010.
L238[10:09:59] <Saphire> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/90878649162543104/331069007727951872/IMG_20170702_094758.jpg heh
L239[10:10:16] <gamax92> Turtle: oh?
L240[10:12:22] <Turtle> Ive got a forum topic, lemme pull the actual issue from the issue tracker, 2s
L241[10:12:55] <Turtle> https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC-55506
L242[10:13:55] <Turtle> (There´s forum reports from 2010, so yeah, dammit mojang.)
L243[10:15:09] <Saphire> Meanwhile on some discord:
L244[10:15:12] <Saphire> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/279368294560038912/331086179674095617/unknown.png
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L246[10:16:46] <Saphire> LOL
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L248[10:16:55] <Saphire> This issue is so old that it triggered a fucking bot :V
L249[10:19:06] <Turtle> Aaaand into the trash the dev env goes. :notdealingwiththisshit:
L250[10:20:54] <gamax92> Turtle: only the dev env does it though? running minecraft normally doesn't?
L251[10:21:31] <Turtle> Quite frankly, Im not even going to be arsed to test.
L252[10:21:54] <Turtle> If it´s forge spawning the issue someone else would´ve noticed it already
L253[10:22:23] <Turtle> Never ran into the issue normally however, so, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L254[10:22:24] <AshIndigo> Make a PR to fix it!
L255[10:22:38] <Saphire> PR to Microsoft? :D
L256[10:22:42] <AshIndigo> (Even though you probably don't know what's causing it)
L257[10:22:44] <gamax92> Understandable, running minecraft restores video tearing for me so I have to run a command to add a flag back to the nvidia driver
L258[10:23:11] <AshIndigo> To forge with a patch for vanilla
L259[10:23:24] <Turtle> I am not going to PR into forge out of the blue lol
L260[10:36:40] <Saphire> Turtle: PRs into forge are... tricky
L261[10:38:26] <Izaya> Balmora is a place on that island in Morrowind, right?
L262[10:40:49] <Turtle> Saphire: especially "you fucked up and revived this 7 year old bug because mojang didnt fix it properly" PRs :P
L263[10:57:37] <gamax92> Turtle: well if you actually figured out the problem enough to where a PR could even be made I'm sure the knowledge would be appreciated
L264[10:58:03] <AshIndigo> %ocloga
L265[10:58:06] <AshIndigo> %oclogs
L266[10:58:06] <MichiBot> https://oclogs.pc-logix.com/
L267[10:58:49] * AshIndigo attempts to summon mezz
L268[10:59:11] * Saphire gets summoned instead, a 'ness!
L269[10:59:32] <gamax92> mezz is in many channels
L270[11:00:07] * AshIndigo is ok with that
L271[11:01:54] <Mettaton_Fab> why is the guardians of the galaxy soundtrack so amazing?
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L273[11:11:58] <TomyLobo2> why does oc paste if i hit "<"
L274[11:12:48] <TomyLobo2> i removed the paste bind so it wouldnt paste if i hit "v"
L275[11:12:55] <TomyLobo2> now it pastes on "<"
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L277[11:18:39] <Yantrio> Hey guys, im playing ftb beyond and im looking to connect to my AE2 system using oc, (mc 1.10) i tried placing an adapter next to the ME controller, but i can't see it anywhere when i list the components
L278[11:18:45] <Yantrio> is there something im missing?
L279[11:19:42] <Temia> Let me boot MC up and throw together a test case.
L280[11:19:52] <Temia> I'm using an FTBB-derived pack so that should be close enough
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L282[11:21:01] <Yantrio> looking at the source, it should work https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/blob/master-MC1.10/src/main/scala/li/cil/oc/integration/appeng/ModAppEng.scala#L19-L31
L283[11:21:04] <AshIndigo> can you post a pic of how you set it up too?
L284[11:22:04] <Yantrio> http://imgur.com/a/Ianpk
L285[11:22:29] <Yantrio> pink glowy block is the ME controller, green squared dark block is adapter, cable connects that to my OC computer
L286[11:24:23] <AshIndigo> looks fine to me
L287[11:25:02] <Yantrio> http://imgur.com/a/7P30s
L288[11:25:44] <Yantrio> that's what im getting when listing components
L289[11:26:20] <AshIndigo> hm
L290[11:28:55] <Yantrio> Is there any blocks that are known to work, that i can quickly throw on the adapter, to make sure 100% it's AE?
L291[11:29:40] <AshIndigo> chest?
L292[11:29:51] <gamax92> Yantrio: https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/blob/master-MC1.10/src/main/scala/li/cil/oc/integration/Mods.scala#L96
L293[11:30:04] <gamax92> it's commented out.
L294[11:30:08] <Yantrio> Ah, that would be the issue ?
L295[11:30:18] <Yantrio> (oops, replied in discord)
L296[11:30:32] <gamax92> the dependencies are also commented out in build.gradle
L297[11:30:41] <Yantrio> Ah well, there goes my plans for a cool ME system monitor
L298[11:30:43] <Yantrio> thanks anyway
L299[11:30:43] <gamax92> and the appeng integration folder is being excluded
L300[11:31:19] * gamax92 yells at Vexatos to fix the integration
L301[11:31:57] <Vexatos> nooo
L302[11:32:52] <Yantrio> If I find some free time this week between work, ill throw in a PR, assuming i can get it all building and testing
L303[11:38:34] <Cruor> gamax92: dont just yell at Vexatos
L304[11:38:36] <Cruor> thats rude
L305[11:38:38] <Cruor> ... and my job
L306[11:39:42] * gamax92 stabs Cruor
L307[11:39:51] * Cruor finds the uhhh
L308[11:39:57] <Cruor> the thing
L309[11:40:00] <Cruor> yes, be scared D:
L310[11:41:07] <Temia> Oho
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L313[11:51:02] <AmandaC> %stab Cruor
L314[11:51:03] * MichiBot stabs Cruor with a sapling doing [7] damage
L315[11:51:47] * Saphire whines
L316[11:53:25] <AshIndigo> whats wrong?
L317[11:54:53] <Saphire> Ate too much sliced sausage
L318[11:54:59] <Saphire> So much grease...
L319[11:55:06] <Saphire> I'll never eat it again
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L322[12:29:07] <gamax92> 10/10 box design
L323[12:29:22] <gamax92> the tab is nowhere near it should be
L324[12:30:32] <gamax92> ahh crap it has no oven instructions either
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L326[12:30:42] <Esteban> hello!
L327[12:31:24] <gamax92> Good day
L328[12:31:34] <Esteban> im making a little library for opencomputers, but everytime i try to use it, it says error
L329[12:31:44] <Esteban> it says that its a boolean value
L330[12:31:49] <gamax92> please give us the full error
L331[12:31:58] <Esteban> just a moment
L332[12:32:56] <Esteban> stack traceback:
L333[12:32:59] <Esteban> oops
L334[12:33:31] <gamax92> no pasting multiple lines here, if you need use pastebin.com or take a screenshot of it
L335[12:33:38] <Esteban> oh
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L337[12:34:47] <Esteban_> my browser just crashed
L338[12:35:33] <Esteban_> here is the error:
L339[12:35:35] <Esteban_> https://snag.gy/BJ2ufQ.jpg
L340[12:35:36] <Esteban_> lul
L341[12:36:01] <gamax92> mind pasting main_frame to pastebin?
L342[12:36:45] <Esteban_> mm
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L344[12:37:05] <Esteban_> is
L345[12:37:12] <Esteban_> wait a minute
L346[12:37:14] <Esteban_> my internet
L347[12:37:18] <Esteban_> is going waaa
L348[12:38:02] <Esteban_> main_frame is just local floor3d = requier(floor3d) and then the command
L349[12:38:13] <Esteban_> which is
L350[12:38:22] <Esteban_> floor3d.create()
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L352[12:39:21] <gamax92> okay
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L354[12:39:28] <Esteban> hello AGAIN!
L355[12:39:32] <Esteban> geez
L356[12:39:45] <Esteban> so
L357[12:39:49] <Esteban> what was i saying?
L358[12:40:05] <gamax92> Hi, sounds like it's actually the floor3d library that has a problem, returning the wrong thing, can you pastebin that?
L359[12:40:15] <Esteban> alright
L360[12:44:26] <Esteban> https://pastebin.com/JfPgUin8
L361[12:44:28] <Esteban> there
L362[12:45:12] <Esteban> oh
L363[12:45:22] <Esteban> i forgot to paste the last bit
L364[12:45:29] <Esteban> "return floor"
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L366[12:49:04] <AmandaC> and this file is called 'floor3d.lua' in one of the expected lib dirs, right? (/usr/lib/floor3d.lua for example)
L367[12:49:14] <Esteban> yea
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L370[12:51:35] <AmandaC> require is likely returning false, <some-error> which is why you're getting the boolean thing.
L371[12:51:55] <AmandaC> try opening a lua shell and trying =require("floor3d")
L372[12:52:03] <AmandaC> typing*
L373[12:52:30] <Esteban> it says true
L374[12:52:42] <gamax92> require usually errors if something goes wrong
L375[12:52:53] <Esteban> mm..
L376[12:53:04] <AmandaC> oh, I thought it had the false, eror pattern
L377[12:53:45] * AmandaC can never keep that all correct in her head
L378[12:54:02] <Esteban> huh
L379[12:54:24] <AmandaC> and you said that there is a return floor at the bottom of the floor3d.lua, right?
L380[12:54:31] <Esteban> yeah
L381[12:54:37] <AmandaC> Have you tried rebooting?
L382[12:54:46] <Esteban> uuh no i dint
L383[12:54:47] <AmandaC> ( the OC computer )
L384[12:54:47] <Esteban> i will try
L385[12:55:26] <AmandaC> If that works, a shortcut is (in lua) package.loaded["floor3d"] = nil
L386[12:55:33] <Esteban> O
L387[12:55:39] <Esteban> wait
L388[12:55:42] <Esteban> oOo
L389[12:55:44] <Esteban> now it works
L390[12:55:54] <Esteban> i think
L391[12:56:04] <AmandaC> require caches the loads in memory, which is what was tripping you u[p
L392[12:56:21] <AmandaC> the line above will clear the right entry from the cache
L393[12:56:45] <AmandaC> ( or you can just reboot after changing floor3d.lua )
L394[12:56:49] <Esteban> oh
L395[12:56:59] <Esteban> thx :3
L396[12:57:51] <gamax92> oh I didn't think of that.
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L400[13:03:54] <AmandaC> payonel: idea for how to include second screens in ocvm: Run an SSH server in-process that shows the secondary monitors! :P
L401[13:04:12] * AmandaC flees from the angry mob
L402[13:05:06] <AmandaC> gamax92: I'm out of ideas why opensuse tumbleweed refuses to run your emu, btw.
L403[13:05:15] <gamax92> oh right I was going to look into that
L404[13:05:17] <AmandaC> SIGSEGV in to_cdata of libffi, IIRC
L405[13:05:24] <gamax92> ahh ... libffi
L406[13:05:39] <AmandaC> should I be installing a specific version of it?
L407[13:05:54] <gamax92> no but that does make things a little more difficult if that's where the problem is
L408[13:06:07] <AmandaC> that's what my GDB sleuthing found
L409[13:06:46] <AmandaC> Either the top or the second from the top of the stack was to_cdata inside libffi, the lots and lots of lua engine magic
L410[13:07:10] <AmandaC> sec, I can get a proper stack trace
L411[13:07:54] <gamax92> openSUSE Tumbleweed ppc64le
L412[13:08:12] <AmandaC> gamax92: see PM
L413[13:12:22] <AmandaC> ppc64le?!
L414[13:12:49] <gamax92> was joke
L415[13:13:26] <AmandaC> ah, lolol
L416[13:14:16] <AmandaC> %choose stay hidden or risk leaving hiding spot for drink
L417[13:14:18] <MichiBot> AmandaC: risk leaving hiding spot for drink
L418[13:20:04] * AmandaC has an idea. a terrible, horrible idea.
L419[13:20:17] <AmandaC> %choose execute on it or don't, think of the children
L420[13:20:17] <MichiBot> AmandaC: execute on it
L421[13:20:18] * AshIndigo likes the idea
L422[13:20:58] <AshIndigo> %choose yes or no
L423[13:20:59] <MichiBot> AshIndigo: no
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L425[13:51:00] <payonel> o/
L426[13:52:05] <AmandaC> hey payonel
L427[13:53:16] * AmandaC waits for docker to download
L428[13:53:21] <AmandaC> rather, a docker image
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L430[14:20:32] <payonel> AmandaC: you were getting boolean back from require() ?
L431[14:22:32] <AmandaC> payonel: no, someone who I helped was
L432[14:23:12] <AmandaC> It was because their library didn't return the table, and then the bad value got cached
L433[14:26:29] <payonel> yeah ... i've redone require since then
L434[14:26:40] <payonel> really cleaned up a lot of weirdness with failed libraries
L435[14:26:45] <payonel> in that case, now it would return nil
L436[14:27:12] <payonel> they're probably running openos 1.6.1 or something
L437[14:27:15] <AmandaC> ah
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L439[14:46:49] <theplayerofgames_> how do i use the irc floppy disk in opencomputers?
L440[14:47:22] <CompanionCube> put it in to a computer with an internet card and run the program, perhaps?
L441[14:47:40] <theplayerofgames_> i did that, i meant how do i join a channel
L442[14:47:57] <CompanionCube> iirc it should support /join
L443[14:48:15] <theplayerofgames_> i dont know any channels
L444[14:49:01] <AmandaC> payonel: are you interested in ocvm working with musl?
L445[14:49:27] <theplayerofgames_> i don't knnow what any of that means
L446[14:49:47] <CompanionCube> if you don't know any channels, then what would you join ;)
L447[14:49:48] <payonel> AmandaC: this musl? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTfU3bTgNkE
L448[14:49:49] <MichiBot> MUSL-GET IN THE BETA! | length: 3m 59s | Likes: 24 Dislikes: 9 Views: 46,325 | by MUSL App | Published On 23/5/2017
L449[14:49:55] <CompanionCube> I believe it joins here by default, fyi
L450[14:50:00] <CompanionCube> or something like that
L451[14:50:03] <theplayerofgames_> oh
L452[14:50:15] <AmandaC> payonel: the micro libc replacement
L453[14:50:29] <CompanionCube> vifino may or may not be interested
L454[14:51:44] <theplayerofgames_> how do i talk to others in game
L455[14:51:54] <payonel> AmandaC: but are you SURE it isn't the video i linked?
L456[14:52:27] <CompanionCube> theplayerofgames_: the IRC disk isn't for that]
L457[14:52:52] <theplayerofgames_> the irc disk is not for talking to others?
L458[14:53:01] <AmandaC> payonel: I've not clicked, because I'm currently listening to calm-down music to try and avert a minor panic attack
L459[14:53:13] <CompanionCube> not in-game
L460[14:53:26] <theplayerofgames_> oh
L461[14:53:29] <CompanionCube> it's used to access out-of-game IRC networks and channels
L462[14:53:54] <theplayerofgames_> this all confusing
L463[14:53:55] <payonel> AmandaC: well in a serious response :) i've heard of musl but have zero experience with it. what benefit would it bring ocvm?
L464[14:54:00] <CompanionCube> given chat is nearly always global, an in-game IRC disk would be mostly useless :p
L465[14:54:24] <theplayerofgames_> the irc disk is useless
L466[14:54:33] <Mimiru> hardly.
L467[14:54:37] <AmandaC> payonel: Took ~2 lines of change for me to make it go under alpine. Mostly imports that are implicit elsewhere but not with musl
L468[14:54:45] <CompanionCube> I think you're missing the point here
L469[14:55:06] <theplayerofgames_> i meant to put a question mark at the end
L470[14:56:24] <payonel> AmandaC: and what is the benefit of alpine?
L471[14:56:55] <CompanionCube> theplayerofgames_: the IRC disk's main purpose is not to communicate with other players on your server. The main purpose is to talk to people that aren't on the server.
L472[14:57:05] <theplayerofgames_> i know
L473[14:57:20] <AmandaC> payonel: minimal linux distro based on musl and static linking as much as possible, used in docker containers a lot.
L474[14:57:29] <CompanionCube> then why did you ask if it's useless because you know it has a use
L475[14:57:58] <theplayerofgames_> im starting to get confused
L476[14:58:15] <payonel> AmandaC: i think i understand that. but i don't know why ocvm needs it
L477[14:59:12] <theplayerofgames_> by the way, im on single player
L478[14:59:40] <CompanionCube> theplayerofgames_: The IRC disk is used to do exactly the thing you are doing now.
L479[15:01:43] <CompanionCube> No need for random PMs, but no problem.
L480[15:02:06] <AmandaC> payonel: minimal ocvm docker container, could be one use case
L481[15:03:21] <AshIndigo> so you want a way to chat with your friends while in singleplayer?
L482[15:03:37] <AshIndigo> am i reading that correctly?
L483[15:03:41] <theplayerofgames_> by the way, how do use the hologram projector?
L484[15:03:48] <AshIndigo> ~w hologram
L485[15:03:48] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:hologram
L486[15:04:08] <payonel> 1. how to irc? \n 2. btw, how to hologram
L487[15:04:09] <payonel> :)
L488[15:05:35] <vifino> mayonel confirmed nub
L489[15:05:56] <payonel> :>
L490[15:06:02] <gamax92> payonel: help
L491[15:06:13] <AmandaC> payonel: can ocvm be run from outside it's source dir?
L492[15:06:20] <gamax92> AmandaC: D: don't go to the enemy
L493[15:06:32] <gamax92> ocvm is bad and inaccurate
L494[15:06:33] <vifino> AmandaC: technically, yes, practically it's a pain
L495[15:06:39] <payonel> AmandaC: forgive me, i don't what putting ocvm in a docker would provide
L496[15:06:42] <payonel> gamax92: :)
L497[15:07:35] <payonel> one day i'll get back to improving ocvm
L498[15:07:46] <gamax92> See he's not even working on it
L499[15:07:51] <payonel> such as reliably running it ourside its source dir
L500[15:07:58] <AmandaC> ( I'm creating a monster. musl support is related )
L501[15:08:25] <AshIndigo> %pet a monster
L502[15:08:26] * MichiBot brushes a monster with a blueberry. a monster recovers 7 health!
L503[15:08:34] <payonel> but ocvm is a stand alone program, not a system level change, i dont see what docker or alpine or musl would add
L504[15:08:50] <Temia> %inv add a tonberry
L505[15:08:51] * MichiBot summons 'a tonberry' and adds to her inventory. This seems very sturdy.
L506[15:09:35] <gamax92> hey Temia
L507[15:09:44] <Temia> Moo \o/
L508[15:10:08] <AmandaC> ugh, god damnit comcasst, get your shit together, I need to do something internet-y
L509[15:10:38] <gamax92> I think the problem with this last time was btrfs and separate home partitions, so now one giant xfs partition :D
L510[15:13:28] <AmandaC> payonel: this is why, because of my madness: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/qaIVLLmz/Screencast%20from%2007-02-2017%2004%3A12%3A12%20PM.webm
L511[15:13:36] <payonel> AmandaC: btw, i just realized i sound defensive or critical of your idea. blame "Text only communication"
L512[15:13:53] <AmandaC> payonel: I figured there was some level of sarcasm in there, no worries. :)
L513[15:14:00] <payonel> i'm actually genuinely interested in your suggestions in general, and am curious, not just trying to be confrontational
L514[15:14:53] <gamax92> AmandaC: I don't know what I just watched
L515[15:14:55] <AmandaC> That link is what prompted my Q about musl ( and the small poking I did to make it go) and also the question about out-of-source running
L516[15:14:59] <gamax92> besides you running ssh and docker
L517[15:15:21] <AmandaC> gamax92: ocvm-as-a-service! ssh in, get your own scoped ocvm instance! (ocvm currently broken)
L518[15:15:42] <gamax92> oh, were you planning on using ocemu for that?
L519[15:15:55] <payonel> AmandaC: ah, i see
L520[15:15:57] <payonel> yeah. ok
L521[15:16:02] <payonel> that would be pretty crazy
L522[15:16:21] <AmandaC> Nah, this idea only came to me about an hour ago, as the "insane mad idea" I mentioned that AshIndigo encuraged (without knowing what it was)
L523[15:16:50] <payonel> AmandaC: please feel free to file issues against ocvm's repo
L524[15:17:00] <payonel> such as "out of source" paths
L525[15:17:20] <payonel> vifino: vt100 is 90% done
L526[15:17:46] <AmandaC> payonel: well, in this case, what I'm doing is running ocvm as `/path/to/ocvm` in the CWD of `/state/ocvm/<hash-of-pubkey>/<session-name>`
L527[15:17:57] <AshIndigo> \o/
L528[15:18:32] <AmandaC> 135 lines of go code for the SSH server, and the wiring up of starting the VM and the directories and such.
L529[15:18:37] <payonel> AmandaC: yeah and that should work. ocvm needs to know where it's binary is for the system/ path. but optionally ocvm should let you specify the system/ path as a cli argument
L530[15:18:49] <AmandaC> payonel: oh?
L531[15:18:56] <payonel> AshIndigo: "\o/" for vt100?
L532[15:19:03] <payonel> AmandaC: SHOULD in the future
L533[15:19:08] <AmandaC> ah. :P
L534[15:19:09] <payonel> as in, i need to add that, had planned to
L535[15:19:12] <AshIndigo> for amandac's thingie
L536[15:21:12] <payonel> gamax92: ocvm is bad, sure, but where is it inaccurate? besides 1. fonts, and 2. daylight savings time or whatnot
L537[15:21:39] <AmandaC> payonel: in the case of musl support, it was a two-line #include adding: time.h and sys/select.h
L538[15:21:41] <gamax92> I dunno
L539[15:21:47] <gamax92> no SDL2 backend
L540[15:21:55] <AmandaC> inside drivers/raw_tty.cpp
L541[15:22:02] <payonel> :)
L542[15:22:03] <gamax92> drivers/sdl2.cpp
L543[15:22:28] <gamax92> and then I can retire
L544[15:23:03] <AmandaC> not sure if that'll break for non-musl, I was more focused on the MVP of the mad idea.
L545[15:23:07] <payonel> tui was goal #2 for ocvm :)
L546[15:23:18] <gamax92> tui?
L547[15:23:23] <AmandaC> text-user-interface
L548[15:23:23] <payonel> text-based ui
L549[15:23:27] <payonel> yeah
L550[15:23:34] <payonel> to run in the command line
L551[15:23:40] <gamax92> yeah but
L552[15:23:49] <gamax92> goal #3, SDL2 backend
L553[15:24:01] <payonel> but ocemu does that SO well
L554[15:24:28] <payonel> AND ocemu beeps for crying out loud!
L555[15:24:31] <payonel> ocvm doesn't beep
L556[15:24:36] <AmandaC> I'll add an issue to the tracker for musl support, and another for running with cwd/state-dir != source-dir
L557[15:24:36] <gamax92> ocvm could beep
L558[15:24:40] <payonel> though, it does print "BEEP" or something to the log :P
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L560[15:24:56] <gamax92> ocvm has memory stuff
L561[15:25:04] <gamax92> that ocemu can never have
L562[15:25:30] <payonel> yeah, memory was #1 reason for ocvm
L563[15:26:01] <payonel> i looked into beeping and there didn't seem to be a reliable way to manifest a beep
L564[15:26:10] <payonel> in terminals. so i gave up
L565[15:26:19] <payonel> it was a low priority anyways
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L569[15:27:43] <AmandaC> payonel: I didn't look much, but is there already a way to have multiple different "machines" in ocvm? So it's not just one machine being run regardless/
L570[15:27:57] <AmandaC> I guess I mean hard disks
L571[15:28:07] <payonel> well first of all, i dont have a network nor internal component driver ... yet
L572[15:28:26] <payonel> AmandaC: do you want: ./ocvm [path]
L573[15:28:27] <payonel> ?
L574[15:28:30] <AmandaC> ah
L575[15:28:34] <AmandaC> That may be it, yes
L576[15:28:45] <payonel> tmp/ is default, but you [path] is used if you provide it
L577[15:28:50] <payonel> also, tmp is a horrible name
L578[15:28:55] <payonel> it was meant to be temporary
L579[15:28:58] <payonel> :/
L580[15:29:31] <gamax92> but then it made it to production
L581[15:30:00] <gamax92> uhm. I purged this VM how does it remember that I had it at 1600x900 before
L582[15:42:28] <payonel> also, ocemu emulates clipboard events!
L583[15:42:30] <payonel> ocvm does not
L584[15:42:38] <payonel> and i need to test that RIGHT now, so, /me loads ocemu
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L586[15:53:46] <AmandaC> payonel: does ocvm work over ssh?
L587[15:53:56] <payonel> yes
L588[15:56:21] <Inari> I know I said this before
L589[15:56:25] <Inari> But this anime - its just so good
L590[15:56:26] <Inari> D:
L591[15:57:30] <payonel> which?
L592[15:57:57] <Inari> Sugar Sugar Rune
L593[16:01:11] <AmandaC> payonel: Worth noting -- the log should probably go to the state dir ([path])
L594[16:01:31] <payonel> definitely
L595[16:02:13] <payonel> AmandaC: https://github.com/payonel/ocvm/issues/5
L596[16:04:43] <AmandaC> Now, what the heck does this mean: https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/FtPP1nxt/ocvm.log
L597[16:05:45] <AmandaC> "unsupported resolution"
L598[16:08:05] <payonel> AmandaC: either < 1
L599[16:08:10] <payonel> or, > current real screen size
L600[16:08:48] <AmandaC> "real screen size" = determined by ioctl, I assume?
L601[16:08:53] <payonel> yes
L602[16:09:06] <AmandaC> that'll do it. my silly little app doesn't actually make a proper pty for it. :P
L603[16:09:30] <payonel> see ansi_escape.cpp: tuple<int, int> current_resolution()
L604[16:17:57] * payonel is afk
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L606[16:56:03] <gamax92> in my list of distros I have to rate openSUSE pretty low
L607[17:02:02] <Inari> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDnRaxMVwAIAdts.jpg:large
L608[17:03:54] <gamax92> oh, Inari is still here
L609[17:04:01] <gamax92> usually you've gone to sleep already
L610[17:05:27] <Cruor> gamax92: lewd
L611[17:06:06] * gamax92 stabs Cruor
L612[17:06:15] <gamax92> Cruor: https://xkcd.com/1613/
L613[17:06:16] <MichiBot> XKCD Comic Name: The Three Laws of Robotics Posted on: 12/7/2015
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L618[17:33:08] <CompanionCube> opensuse is meh
L619[17:33:34] <gamax92> agreed
L620[17:33:57] <CompanionCube> it worked fine and the snapper integration was nice, but the repos were small af
L621[17:34:09] <CompanionCube> (note: i used their rolling release tumbleweed)
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L623[19:33:31] <AmandaC> oh hey, I have internet again, neat.
L624[19:34:28] <AmandaC> Oops, guess not
L625[19:34:34] <Mimiru> o_O
L626[19:35:39] <AmandaC> comcast is either having some major issues or my router is dying
L627[20:10:18] <CompanionCube> http://downdetector.com/status/comcast-xfinity/map/ looks like issues to me
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L629[20:33:32] <AmandaC> That's what I've been thinking, but at the same time I'm also seeing packets dropping pretty heavily inside my NAT
L630[20:34:12] <AmandaC> ~50% packet loss to my rpi3 NAS, eg
L631[20:35:15] <AmandaC> Laptop -> Wifi -> router -> Ethernet -> rpi
L632[20:35:56] <AmandaC> Anyway
L633[20:36:41] <AmandaC> %choose try the Comcast or teather and watch on laptop
L634[20:36:41] <MichiBot> AmandaC: teather and watch on laptop
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L641[20:55:55] <Saphire> Two most horrid things ever:
L642[20:56:10] <Saphire> Imperial measurement system and 12h clock on electronic devices.
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L647[21:10:11] * AshIndigo attempts to sneak off with a 12h clock
L648[21:30:16] <Yarillo> Imperial sucks but the 12h clock is alright
L649[21:30:32] <Yarillo> However, the months system sucks
L650[21:31:06] <Yarillo> Sometimes it's 30, sometimes 31, february is 29...
L651[21:31:30] <Yarillo> And then there's leap secondes and daylight saving and oh god why
L652[21:32:17] <gamax92> MM/DD/YY oh god why
L653[21:46:34] <Yarillo> YYYY/MM/DD master race
L654[21:59:40] <Izaya> YY/MM/DD HH:MM:SS TZ
L655[22:00:55] <gamax92> YYYY-MM-DD_HH:MM:SS
L656[22:01:01] <gamax92> no TZ, just 24 hour time
L657[22:01:16] <Izaya> TZ is often important
L658[22:07:11] <gamax92> okay I guess
L659[22:07:17] <gamax92> can have a TZ
L660[22:12:05] <gamax92> Izaya: tz messes up sorting though, have to normalize it to some specific timezone like UTC and remove it
L661[22:12:28] <Izaya> fair
L662[22:25:30] <Kaggin> leap seconds are needed because the planet keeps slowing down because people keep gaining weight and making windmills to slow down the rotation of the earth
L663[22:25:39] <Kaggin> global warming is a myth
L664[22:25:46] <Kaggin> daylight savings prevents global warming
L665[22:26:18] <Kaggin> and february is 28 also, hun
L666[22:39:29] <soonTM> for the most part daylight savings time and leap years are unneeded
L667[22:39:45] <soonTM> but if you are making a clock or something that messes with the date and or time IRL then sure
L668[22:41:08] <Izaya> seconds from 01/01/1970 is a good time system :^)
L669[22:43:53] <CompanionCube> Izaya: 64-bit, right?
L670[22:44:17] <Izaya> 128 :^)
L671[22:50:05] <CompanionCube> Can we also agree that UTF-8 is the one true encoding
L672[22:50:23] <Kaggin> >leap years are unneeded
L673[22:50:46] <Kaggin> They actually are, since then length of a year is 365.25 days
L674[22:51:06] <Kaggin> without them, we would eventually get unaligned with seasons and stuff
L675[22:51:17] <Kaggin> and then it would be REALLY confusing
L676[22:51:52] <Kaggin> DST is a construct created by the government to fuck with citizens
L677[22:52:46] <CompanionCube> that's a nice assumption of malice there.
L678[22:53:01] <Kaggin> the gubment is after us
L679[22:53:11] <Kaggin> hide yo kids hide yo moonshine
L680[23:01:47] <soonTM> gubberment
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