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L2[00:23:37] <Temia> 4 is easily the most
polished of the series.
L3[00:23:45] <Temia> Also I'd personally
recommend it over Stardew Valley.
L4[00:23:53] <Temia> But it's not an option,
so...
L5[00:23:55] * Temia
shrug.
L6[00:30:29] <Temia> partly because the cast
is so CUTE *-*
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<Dudblockman> On a scale of orangutan to
potato, I am a cabbage.
<Dudblockman> On a scale of orangutan to
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L14[02:41:27] <Forecaster> Skye: I use
PowerDirector, but it's paid
L15[02:41:35] <Forecaster> I don't know of
any good free programs
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L20[03:36:37] <Izaya> Forecaster: the Corel
one?
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L25[04:03:08] <Inari> payonel / AmandaC:
@CatTag Tsundere cat http://i.imgur.com/sWQLakV.gifv
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L27[04:36:00] <dialup> and right now is one
of the moments where i have a 56k connection
L28[04:38:50] <Skye> Why.
L29[04:39:08] <Skye> %p dialup
L30[04:39:13] <MichiBot> Ping reply from
dialup 3.49s
L31[04:39:37] <Skye> Well it doesn't best
my record of GPRS with one bar of signal
L32[04:43:20] <dialup> but thats hella slow
for Telekom broadband internet
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L34[04:47:29] <Forecaster> Izaya:
what?
L35[04:48:09] <Forecaster> oh
L36[04:48:13] <Forecaster> I've never used
that
L37[04:49:17] <Skye> Forecaster, I had to
fight with technology to get a video that Adobe Premiere elements 9
can open. But then it doesn't even work with - - 1080p 60 fps
L38[04:52:38] <Forecaster> I've never used
that either
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L41[05:35:35] <Izaya> Skye: what was your
reason for not using blender?
L42[05:35:44] <Skye> Forgot about it.
L43[05:35:51] <Skye> Also I am scared of
3D
L44[05:36:00] <Izaya> You don't need to do
anything 3D
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L49[05:44:40] <Vexatos> %tell vifino site
is bork
L50[05:44:40] <MichiBot> Vexatos: vifino
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L56[06:18:19] <aquilon74> Hello
L57[06:19:38] <aquilon74> Can opencomputers
interacts with enderchests ans tanks from enderStorage ?
L58[06:20:24] <AshIndigo> Probably
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L60[06:28:04] <aquilon74> is there
somewhere i can find all informations about opencomputers
interactions with other mods, vanilla items ?
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L62[06:31:58] <Ahamay> hi :)
L63[06:32:31] <Ahamay> anyone that can help
with my robot?
L64[06:34:06] <Skye> aquilon74, there is an
in game manual, and there is ocd.cil.li
L65[06:34:46] <Ahamay> Skye, can you help
me :/ ?
L66[06:35:19] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pg93ir4od4E&feature=em-uploademail
thats cool, want
L67[06:35:20] <MichiBot> Kracie popin'
cookin' candy sushi kit. (Clumsy bear version.) | length:
16m 20s | Likes: 1,996
Dislikes: 46 Views: 46,288 |
by bigclivedotcom | Published On 15/6/2017
L68[06:35:44] <Inari> Ahamay: Well noone
can help you unless you ask a question or describe your issue
L69[06:36:23] <Ahamay> I want to make my
robot move for example 5 blocks with 1 command
L70[06:36:44] <Ahamay> I don't know how
:/
L71[06:37:34] <AshIndigo> Make a function
that goes 5 blocks forward and then call that?
L72[06:38:30] <Ahamay> I don't know how
exactly should I write it
L73[06:38:44] <Ahamay> I have never worked
with such thing before
L74[06:38:55] <AshIndigo> ~w robot
L75[06:38:55] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/api:robot
L76[06:39:51] <Ahamay> thanks
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L78[06:39:56] <aquilon74> Hello, Can
opencomputers interacts with enderchests ans tanks from
enderStorage ?
L79[06:42:29] <Skye> aquilon74, probably.
There's the transposes for item movement
L80[06:42:54] <aquilon74> oh iforgot to say
something
L81[06:43:15] <aquilon74> i asked this to
change frequency of enderchest
L82[06:48:59] <Skye> no idea
L83[06:49:04] <Skye> try an adapter
block?
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L85[07:07:45] <Ahamay> Hi again
L86[07:08:46] <Ahamay> I wrote
component.robot.move(sides.front:2)
L87[07:08:54] <Ahamay> into my robot
L88[07:09:02] <Ahamay> and it doesn't
work
L89[07:09:07] <Ahamay> what am I doing
wrong?
L90[07:09:18] <Izaya> a) provide the
error
L91[07:09:23] <Izaya> b) remove the
:2
L92[07:09:44] <Izaya> dunno if it'll work
but that isn't quite what you're after I don't think
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L94[07:11:09] <Ahamay> <name>
expected near '2'
L95[07:11:13] <Ahamay> that's the
error
L96[07:11:29] <Ahamay> and I want it to
move 2 blocks forward
L97[07:11:41] <Izaya> sure
L98[07:11:46] <Izaya> adding a :2 won't
help do that
L99[07:11:55] <Ahamay> :c
L100[07:12:38] <Ahamay> so I have to make
a function or what?
L101[07:12:44] <Izaya> robot.forward()
will move the robot forward
L102[07:12:53] <Izaya> you'll probably
want a loop to do that 5 times
L103[07:12:56] <Izaya> ~w for loop
L104[07:12:56] <ocdoc> Predicted http://ocd.cil.li/item:floppy
L105[07:13:00] <Izaya> ._.
L106[07:13:40] <Izaya> https://www.lua.org/manual/5.3/manual.html#3.3.5
L107[07:14:40] <Ahamay> where do I exactly
should write ~w?
L108[07:15:07] <Izaya> ~w is a command for
the ocdoc
L109[07:15:08] <ocdoc> Predicted http://ocd.cil.li/item:card_container ( I tried D:
)
L110[07:15:22] <Izaya> ocdoc bot* as
demonstrated above
L111[07:15:31] <Izaya> ie it's not
relevant
L112[07:15:36] <Izaya> read that section
of the manual
L113[07:15:43] <Izaya> the manual is
relevant
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L116[07:24:40] <AshIndigo> How's irccloud
vifino?
L117[07:25:34] <onifiv> It's okayish,
great client, would prefer self hosted without a doubt.
L118[07:27:15] <AshIndigo> The look of the
mobile app is what keeps me with it
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L120[08:12:51] <Izaya> >non-free
network services
L121[08:15:36] <Inari> https://www.reddit.com/r/DesirePath/comments/6hv9r8/reptilian_desire/
L122[08:26:20] <AshIndigo>
"wlx9c5c8eb22c3c" what kind of unholy name is that for a
WiFi adapater
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L124[08:30:01] <Ahamay> Heey =D
L125[08:31:09] <Inari> Why not just
like
L126[08:31:10] <Inari> Use webchat
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L128[08:35:24] <AshIndigo> No idea
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L131[08:58:18] <Inari> "A little
body, to satisfy your all hand addictions" ;3
L132[08:58:30] <Syrren> Anyone know where
the source of Corded is?
L133[08:58:57] <XDjackieXD> https://github.com/CaitlynMainer/Yuri
L134[08:58:59] *
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hot outside
L135[08:59:04] <Syrren> thanks
L136[08:59:40] <XDjackieXD> np
L137[09:13:53] <Forecaster> blender does
video editing? oO
L138[09:15:05] <XDjackieXD> yep
L139[09:15:22] <Izaya> it's quite good at
it
L140[09:15:26] <Izaya> after some
tweaking
L141[09:17:35] <Syrren> Forecaster: watch
out for rendering speed though! there's no built-in parallelism --
only way to do that is to do batch rendering and stitch the
segments together outside of Blender.
L142[09:18:26] <Izaya> RIP
L143[09:18:32] <Izaya> might need to
reboot my xen server
L144[09:18:36] <Izaya> libvirt is not
happy with it
L145[09:35:55] <Forecaster> I don't plan
to switch from PowerDirector :P
L146[09:36:07] <Forecaster> got my
templates and stuff set up for it
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L150[10:04:27] <Skye> Forecaster, I'm
using blender right now... it's not the most user friendly thing
and it's easy to break.
L151[10:04:31] <Skye> but it works?!
L152[10:10:44] <gamax92> Someone somewhere
wrote code to make names like wlx8u3f5s7d, and thought that was a
good idea
L153[10:12:55] <onifiv> persistant
interface naming is great. in theory.
L154[10:13:03] *
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L155[10:13:15] *
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L156[10:13:31] *
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L162[10:55:43] <Temia> %weather
N1L0L1
L163[10:55:44] <MichiBot> Current weather
for Guelph, Ontario Current Temp: 78.6°F/25.9°C Feels Like:
78.6°F/26°C Current Humidity: 30% Wind: From the West 6.0 Mph/9.7
Km/h Conditions: Overcast
L164[10:55:55] <Temia> I'll take it.
L165[11:00:26] <AmandaC> gamax92: that
looks more like a repurposed password generator
L166[11:01:43] <gamax92> Well it wouldn't
make for very good passwords
L167[11:14:41] <Inari> https://www.reddit.com/r/yandere_simulator/comments/6hxh75/midori_was_used_in_a_school_message_about_hygiene/
o.o
L168[11:20:16] <AshIndigo> Yanderedev
yanderedev! How do I make the school a clean environment!
L169[11:42:26] <AmandaC> SD Card get!
Power plug get!
L170[11:42:31] <AmandaC> RPi3 comes
tomorrow. :|
L171[11:43:27] <AshIndigo> any
plans?
L172[11:43:41] <AmandaC> playing with
Android Things some more, since I turned the first RPi I bought
into a NAS
L173[11:44:40] <AshIndigo> ah
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L175[11:51:32] <Mimiru> oooh
L176[11:51:36] <Mimiru> PIL 4th edition,
pdf
L177[11:51:38] <Mimiru> \o/
L178[11:57:54] <Syrren> AmandaC: How'd you
manage that? Turning an rPI into a NAS, that is.
L179[11:58:17] <AmandaC> Syrren:
OpenMediaVault has images for it
L180[11:58:33] *
Mimiru looks at the 3tb external hdd sitting next to
her
L181[11:58:38] <Mimiru> and the Pi on the
other side..
L182[11:58:50] <Mimiru> s/3/4/
L183[11:58:51] <MichiBot> * Mimiru looks
at the 4tb external hdd sitting next to her
L184[11:59:23] <Mimiru> If I thought the
Pi could do decent transcoding I'd toss plex on it
L185[11:59:31] *
Syrren looks at the 4-disk server box sitting
downstairs
L186[11:59:35] <Mimiru> but I've already
got that running on my other server.
L187[11:59:40] <AmandaC> I don't think
plex makes arm images anymore
L188[11:59:46] <AmandaC> er,
binaries
L189[12:00:11] <AmandaC> at least, I
couldn't find any, but yeah, I'd probably just point plex on my
gaming compy at the NAS when I move my anime to it
L190[12:00:25] <Syrren> can rPI run at
least a 2-disk mirror?
L191[12:00:41] <Syrren> although, wait.
rPI is usb2-only
L192[12:00:50] <Syrren> that's a pretty
big bottleneck even with spinning rust
L193[12:01:20] <Syrren> ...is there any
rPI-like device with usb3 or eSATA?
L194[12:01:23] *
AmandaC isn't overly concerned with duplication, she plans on
nightly mirrors to her best friend's NAS who will be able to do the
proper replication
L195[12:01:30] <Syrren> ah
L196[12:01:45] <Temia> I believe there are
single-board computers with SATA ports.
L197[12:01:56] <Temia> But you'd need a
physical adapter for eSATA.
L198[12:02:01] <AmandaC> I just want
something nearby, reasonably fast, and not taking up disk space
from my laptop
L199[12:02:27] <AmandaC> so I can back up
to that and let that back up further to more reliable storage
L200[12:02:47] <Syrren> Temia: SATA is
fine -- better than fine, even -- link? :p
L201[12:02:52] <AmandaC> So I'm not
directly waiting 10-12 hours for my code to backup over my shitty
upstream.
L202[12:03:01] <Temia> Check out the
OLinuXino SBC.
L203[12:03:21] <Syrren> tl;dr: I'm going
to be working overseas for, like, 3 years and I'm already taking
two laptops with me, can't exactly take the family NAS too
L204[12:04:22] <AmandaC> I have a 2TB
external hard drive, but it's currently plugged into the Wii U. I
also have a 1tb external drive, but idk how well the wii U's fs
would handle being dd'd to a smaller disk
L205[12:04:24] <Syrren> Temia: http://au.mouser.com/new/olimex/olimex-A13olinuxinoMICRO/
I don't see any SATA ports?
L206[12:04:49] <Syrren> AmandaC: probably
not very well if you just DD it in? does linux recognise the
fs?
L207[12:05:11] <AmandaC> I believe it's
using it's own bespoke fs, or some kind of full-disk
encryption
L208[12:05:17] <Syrren> :(
L209[12:05:30] <Temia> Not all models have
them. Check the A20 model.
L210[12:05:32] <AmandaC> I remember trying
to mount it from my linux netbook a few years back and it didn't
work
L211[12:06:17] <Syrren> aha, A20 has one
SATA port
L212[12:07:47] <Syrren> ooh, 2 usb3 ports
http://ameridroid.com/products/odroid-xu4
L213[12:13:43] <vifino> %tell Vexatos I've
done the pokings, with some luck it'll be online soon, but probably
not today, I am really tired.
L214[12:13:44] <MichiBot> vifino: Vexatos
will be notified of this message when next seen.
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L216[12:27:08] <AmandaC> %choose try and
code or try and game
L217[12:27:09] <MichiBot> AmandaC: try and
code
L218[12:27:20] <AmandaC> mena
L219[12:27:22] <AmandaC> mean*
L220[12:28:27] <Syrren> %choose reading or
sleeping or Crysis
L221[12:28:28] <MichiBot> Syrren:
sleeping
L222[12:30:18] <Kodos>
%choose make her go or let her stay
<Kodos>
%choose make her go or let her stayL223[12:30:20] <MichiBot> Kodos: let her
stay
L224[12:30:23] <Kodos>
Bah
<Kodos>
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L235[14:49:38] <Vexatos> whoops
L236[14:49:39] <Vexatos> :⁾
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L239[14:50:47] <Vexatos> god damn wiki
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L241[15:03:28] <payonel> Vexatos: what
wiki update?
L242[15:03:39] <Mimiru> s/date/time
L243[15:03:39] <MichiBot> <payonel>
Vexatos: what wiki uptime?
L244[15:03:52] <payonel> ah
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L248[15:28:28] <Vindex> hey...
L249[15:28:39] <Vindex> it seems like
os.exit() doesn't stop my program
L250[15:28:43] <Vindex> I don't get
why
L251[15:29:32] <Vexatos> @Dudblockman: if
pcall(assert(string.match(tostring(condition), "true")))
~= false then
L252[15:29:45] <Vexatos>
wait
<Vexatos>
waitL253[15:29:48] <Vexatos> almost
L254[15:30:00] <Vexatos> if (function()
pcall(assert(string.match(tostring(condition), "true")))
end)() ~= false then
L255[15:30:00] <Vexatos> there
L256[15:32:27] <Dudblockman> Beautiful
<Dudblockman> BeautifulL257[15:32:46] <Dudblockman> We should frame that and put
it in a museum
<Dudblockman> We should frame that and put
it in a museumL258[15:33:15] <Vindex> hm, it seems like
when I call os.exit() in method from my another module, os.exit()
does nothing
L259[15:37:02] <Dudblockman> os.exit = function() white
true do end end
<Dudblockman> os.exit = function() white
true do end endL260[15:37:31] <Vindex> yeah, I am looking
for any of my code doing something like that
L261[15:37:38] <Vindex> can't find
it
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L263[15:48:14] <Vindex> hmm, it seems I
have some globals leak
L264[15:55:06] <Vindex> huh, now... how
comes "classes" I rquire in the program are still loaded
after program is killed by ctrl+alt+c (when I type lua in
roboto)
L265[15:57:41] <Inari> Cause require
caches
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L271[16:23:18] <payonel> Vindex: yes, that
is by design. require'd libraries remain in memory
L272[16:23:26] <payonel> if you do not
want things cached, use dofile
L273[16:24:20] <payonel> Vindex: os.exit()
will kill the running process, are you seeing something
different?
L274[16:29:22] <Inari> Or
package.loaded["mylib"] = nil
L275[16:29:23] <Inari> orso
L276[16:30:41] <payonel> yes, but i would
prefer people not use that as a method of unloading things
L277[16:30:47] <payonel> for
development/debugging, sure
L278[16:31:02] <Gavle> Question, is there
a way to tell if a library is present on a system without trying to
require it (and possibly failing)?
L279[16:32:09] <payonel> pcall(require,
module), or package.searchpath(module, package.path)
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L281[16:37:59] <Inari> payonel: Why
not?
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L283[16:41:06] <ds84182> So I rewrote my
OS's scheduler and process handling mechanism into a tailcall-based
state machine
L284[16:41:15] <ds84182> I need mental
help probably
L285[16:42:01] <payonel> if you reload a
lib because the lib changed, that's dev work.
L286[16:42:06] <payonel> if you reload a
lib to refresh state sounds like too much state is held or you need
a clear/reset method on the api.
L287[16:42:44] <payonel> if you are
unloading a lib to save memory you're assuming you know that is
safe to do so, but libraries may not be compatible with unloading.
in particular, kernel libraries assume they will not be
reloaded
L288[16:45:48] <Inari> I could reload a l
ib because the installer I just ran updated it
L289[16:45:49] <Inari> ;D
L290[16:46:30] <payonel> but that is
assuming it is safe to do so
L291[16:47:11] <Inari> Why would it not
be
L292[16:47:56] <payonel> to name some:
filesystem, process, package, io, tty
L293[16:48:08] <payonel> unloading thought
would cause crashes or unspecified behavior
L294[16:48:17] <Inari> Well you generally
don't update those in your program's installer
L295[16:48:58] <payonel> ah, you refer to
user libraries and installers by the same package
L296[16:49:14] <Inari> Yeah
L297[16:49:17] <payonel> in that case, it
is more like an api call that the installer should reserve the
right to reload
L298[16:50:00] <payonel> so to my first
point - i should amend your point - it's not just dev work, but
updates by the same package
L299[16:50:07] <payonel> i can accept that
as the exception
L300[16:50:18] <Inari> :p Thats what I
meant, yeah
L301[16:50:33] <payonel> but that is the
only case i would be okay with that
L302[16:50:44] <payonel> there is a known
change to the library, and you want to load it
L303[16:50:59] <payonel> the user
shouldn't be doing that if there is an installer
L304[16:51:19] <payonel> or at least...the
library can have notes in the readme that you can reload it when
you take updates
L305[16:52:14] <payonel> Inari: my concern
is that ive seen code that uses package cache and reloading in
place of clean object persistence and state management
L306[16:52:25] *
payonel is afk
L307[16:52:31] <Inari> ^^
L308[16:56:24] <Gavle> payonel, thank
you
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L313[17:35:58] <Izaya> fun trick: have a
script that makes n symlinks every event
L314[17:36:10] <Izaya> eventually the FS
handler OOMs
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L321[20:36:33] <AmandaC> %choose discuss
buying or give up
L322[20:36:34] <MichiBot> AmandaC: discuss
buying
L323[20:36:36] <AmandaC> hrm
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L328[22:03:14] <S3> Damn it
L329[22:03:20] <S3> Vexatos is
missing
L330[22:13:34] <S3> I wonder
L331[22:13:41] <S3> %tell
L332[22:13:41] <MichiBot> S3: Who did you
want to tell?
L333[22:14:19] <S3> %tell vexatos it would
be challenging yet interesting to see pattern matching implemented
for Selene
L334[22:14:19] <MichiBot> S3: vexatos will
be notified of this message when next seen.
L335[22:29:26] <S3> I have a feeling
vexatos will think of Lua patterns it regular expressions
instead....
L336[22:29:31] <S3> And*
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L339[23:49:09]
zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L340[23:59:11] <gamax92> %choose happiness
or regret
L341[23:59:12] <MichiBot> gamax92:
happiness