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L7[00:15:52] <maumagro> hi everyone
L8[00:16:04] <maumagro> can someone help me gettin mineos working?
L9[00:16:09] <maumagro> i can't run the installer
L10[00:16:55] <AshIndigo> Use openos!
L11[00:17:12] <maumagro> i have openos
L12[00:17:19] <maumagro> but i want a gui
L13[00:18:03] <AshIndigo> Isn't half of it in Russian still?
L14[00:18:19] <maumagro> yes, but i don't mind
L15[00:18:28] <maumagro> the problem is that the installer won't run
L16[00:18:46] <AshIndigo> Are you trying to run the installer on a server?
L17[00:19:07] <maumagro> i saw a video (russian), followed the steps, it's just a simple openos with internet card and the run the pastebin
L18[00:19:12] <maumagro> yes, my home server
L19[00:19:25] <AshIndigo> I meant an oc server
L20[00:19:32] <Saphire> Hey, anyone wants to see a joke?
L21[00:19:40] <Saphire> https://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=53.333333&mlon=83.75&zoom=12#map=13/53.3507/83.7682 traveling anywhere from this place
L22[00:19:44] <maumagro> i tried server and regular compuiter
L23[00:19:55] <Saphire> maumagro: mineos is... kinda bad
L24[00:19:55] <maumagro> it's the same error in both
L25[00:20:07] <maumagro> well, i'd like to try it at least
L26[00:20:19] <AshIndigo> What's the error?
L27[00:20:20] <Saphire> Most of it is bunch of programs the developer ripped off from forums and etc
L28[00:20:24] <maumagro> or some other os with gui
L29[00:20:34] <maumagro> let me see
L30[00:20:39] <Saphire> And.. he didn't do a good job at that
L31[00:20:47] <AshIndigo> The installer didn't work on an oc server last time k checked
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L33[00:20:51] <AshIndigo> *i
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L35[00:21:54] <maumagro> it's something with process.lua line 61
L36[00:21:57] <maumagro> xpcall
L37[00:22:06] <maumagro> it would be easier with a screenshot
L38[00:22:23] <Saphire> ...sounds like he fucked up something. Again.
L39[00:22:31] <AshIndigo> \o/
L40[00:22:35] <maumagro> hahaha
L41[00:22:40] <maumagro> it's a new openos install
L42[00:22:47] <maumagro> shouldn't bother
L43[00:23:07] <maumagro> maybe the open os 1.6.1 ain't compatible
L44[00:23:14] <maumagro> the russina guy had 1.5
L45[00:23:44] <maumagro> at least i'd like to try a gui
L46[00:23:55] <AshIndigo> Make your own?
L47[00:23:59] <maumagro> if any of you know any i would appreciate
L48[00:24:09] <maumagro> i'm not that good programming
L49[00:24:11] <Saphire> maumagro: okay, let's ask a small question
L50[00:24:20] <maumagro> go ahead saphire
L51[00:24:30] <Saphire> Do you think the gui will be any better than remembering few commands that you need to run pretty much any program?
L52[00:24:48] <maumagro> it's not for me to use
L53[00:25:00] <maumagro> i use commands
L54[00:25:00] <Saphire> ...aww shit.
L55[00:25:19] <maumagro> in fact, i made some kind of gui with buttonapi
L56[00:25:32] <maumagro> i click buttons to turn on and off some things
L57[00:26:58] <Saphire> https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/53.35050/83.75498&layers=T that's a lot of rails O.o
L58[00:28:36] <maumagro> how do i copy the url?
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L61[00:40:58] <BoxFox> forgive my smart ass reply.. but...
L62[00:40:59] <BoxFox> highlight it.. rightclick it.. right click where you want to put it and click paste.
L63[00:40:59] <BoxFox> unless mobile, in which case. Tap and hold the link until (IOS) a black toolbar comes up (android) a white tool bar comes up at the bottom
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L66[00:45:00] * payonel lurks
L67[00:48:56] <BoxFox> hi payo
L68[00:49:41] <payonel> heard you had an extra returns in your script
L69[00:50:33] <payonel> maumagro: what mc version are you on?
L70[00:51:48] <BoxFox> payonel: yuup.. that was it. I had a return in the program in juust the right spot to break it.
L71[00:53:32] <payonel> maumagro: i mean, what version of oc
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L73[00:54:19] <payonel> boxfox: what are you building?
L74[00:54:54] <BoxFox> A session-based server
L75[00:55:51] <BoxFox> the two parts that had false return statements was my table skimmer and my catch for port 443, 23 and 8080
L76[01:08:01] <AshIndigo> %stab Terraria fishing
L77[01:08:02] * MichiBot hits Terraria fishing with Cruor's kernel doing [12] damage
L78[01:19:14] <Saphire> Uh
L79[01:19:28] <Saphire> https://github.com/OpenCubicChunks/CubicChunks/commit/953a4cc14a24a1d852eb02e579e0e9dc3bc1ab80#diff-90ab291d3a3bec7ebe88ea4cd2ab0d10R2 how the hell that even works?
L80[01:19:37] <Saphire> I mean.. Copyright /and/ GPLv3?
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L82[01:20:54] <gamax92> pasteright?
L83[01:23:51] <payonel> Saphire: the author holds the right of how the document should be copied, which they declare is GPLv3. those things do not conflict, it is saying "Jeff Martin" had the "right" to select GPLv3 for the terms of "copy"
L84[01:24:10] <payonel> copyright is automatic, even if you don't declare it
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L90[03:18:18] <Inari> AmandaC: https://danbooru.donmai.us/data/__hutaba_akane_original_drawn_by_naomi_sekai_no_hate_no_kissaten__b70ed4983a03d993e1d0bfe0be87e8dd.png ;3
L91[03:31:02] <Mettaton_Fab> AshIndigo: can you not terraria?
L92[03:38:14] <Inari> https://i.redditmedia.com/_34AYDNsf98vZgVtd2dNUFYnJVuV7A80VHm8voZ2L7I.jpg?w=427&s=d4a1a69850d341182292a68475d52b01
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L95[04:13:39] <Inari> http://store.steampowered.com/tag/en/Sexual%20Content#p=0&tab=PopularNewReleases o.o
L96[04:18:50] <LizzyTheKitty> Inari....
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L98[04:42:38] <Mettaton_Fab> wow, Nekopara Vol.3 only costs 10€?
L99[04:43:07] <Inari> For the non R18 version anyway, yes
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L101[05:11:29] <Mettaton_Fab> eh, a torrent for the patch later and its better
L102[05:15:19] <Inari> @Mettaton_Fab stop pirating
L103[05:15:46] <Izaya> @Mettaton_Fab keep pirating
L104[05:15:50] <XDjackieXD> lel
L105[05:16:06] <Inari> Eh
L106[05:16:15] <Inari> the people should be paid for their work, unless you can't afford to pay them
L107[05:17:13] <XDjackieXD> ^
L108[05:17:28] <Izaya> With games I generally agree, yeah
L109[05:17:36] <Inari> In which case I'd say you're fine to pirate, but keep in mind to support if/once you can
L110[05:17:36] <Izaya> With the exception of Ubisoft and EA, anyway
L111[05:18:02] <XDjackieXD> It's somehow interesting how I almost completely stopped to pirate stuff when I switched to Linux a few years ago ^^
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L113[05:18:27] <Izaya> piracy is not freedom, after all
L114[05:18:36] <Inari> I almost completely stopped pirating games when Steam became more big and convenient (and my spending money increased around the same time too)
L115[05:18:59] * Izaya has a limited budget and generally doesn't play games for very long
L116[05:19:13] <Inari> I guess Izaya rather would have it the stuff gets released completely opensource and such, free for people to mod it, and supported by e.g. Patreon or Kickstarter
L117[05:19:14] <XDjackieXD> I actually have quite a lot of games on steam I have yet to play that I bought during a sale because they were cheap :>
L118[05:19:30] <Inari> XDjackieXD: Thats how sales work
L119[05:19:31] <Inari> ;D
L120[05:19:42] <Izaya> Inari: that would be a wonderful strategy
L121[05:20:02] <Izaya> even better if people only got paid if they did the work but \o/
L122[05:20:04] <XDjackieXD> just imagine some amazing game being open source :D
L123[05:20:48] <Inari> I'd take a game being amazing :P
L124[05:21:19] <Inari> I haven't really played a game I'd call amazing in a long time I think
L125[05:21:50] <Izaya> there are a lot of fun games but most of them aren't amazing
L126[05:21:53] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7ForHMX-xs this theme is amazing though
L127[05:21:56] <MichiBot> FFXIV OST Limsa Lominsa Day Time Theme ( I Am the Sea ) | length: 6m 5s | Likes: 438 Dislikes: 2 Views: 107,600 | by Mekkah Dee | Published On 7/5/2014
L128[05:22:26] <Inari> EQ:Next would have been amazing if fully realized
L129[05:22:27] <Inari> But eh
L130[05:22:46] <Izaya> EQ:Next?
L131[05:22:50] <Inari> Everquest Next
L132[05:22:57] <Izaya> Ah
L133[05:23:01] <Inari> New MMO that wass supposed to be
L134[05:23:03] <Inari> But got scrapped
L135[05:23:07] <Izaya> RIP
L136[05:23:37] <Inari> Noone's really making a new good MMO anymore it seems :P
L137[05:24:05] <Izaya> MMOs are hard.
L138[05:24:09] <Inari> Blizz also seems to have no interest in making a new MMO in the near future
L139[05:24:17] <Turtle> There´s a few ¨indie¨ MMOs, but yeah
L140[05:24:33] <Izaya> And they lock out people with third-world internet such as parts of the US and most of Australia
L141[05:24:41] <Inari> Turtle: Those usually don't have that big a scale though I think?
L142[05:24:42] <Izaya> if they're complicated MMOs, anyway
L143[05:25:01] <Turtle> Inari: Probably not, lemme check wtf crowfall wanted to do again
L144[05:25:06] <Inari> Izaya: WEll that new satellite internet thingy could fix that?
L145[05:25:20] <Inari> Project Titan also sounded amazing :<
L146[05:25:22] <Turtle> I think they did have a massive scope, but would probably not reach it
L147[05:25:23] <Izaya> new satellite internet thingy?
L148[05:25:32] <Izaya> sounds like even worse latency than we already have
L149[05:26:01] <Inari> Izaya: 35ms supposedly
L150[05:26:06] <Izaya> ...
L151[05:26:10] <Inari> https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/05/spacexs-falcon-9-rocket-will-launch-thousands-of-broadband-satellites/
L152[05:26:14] <Izaya> That's lower than my ping to 8.8.8.8
L153[05:26:27] <Izaya> oooh in other news
L154[05:26:34] <Izaya> we're getting VDSL2 here later this year
L155[05:26:44] <Izaya> so we're still stuck with slowly degrading copper lines
L156[05:26:45] <Inari> They put them in a lower orbit, means better speedss or so
L157[05:26:49] <Inari> But also they need a lot more of them
L158[05:26:57] <XDjackieXD> the reason sat internet currently has that bad of a latency is because geostationary satellites are just really far away :P
L159[05:26:59] <Izaya> but I should be able to get 100/50Mbps with it \o/
L160[05:27:05] <Inari> Yep
L161[05:27:36] <Inari> 35km vs 1km
L162[05:27:57] <Inari> Er
L163[05:27:59] <Forecaster> I wonder where the 2nd world is
L164[05:28:02] <Inari> not 1km :P
L165[05:28:05] <XDjackieXD> that'd be pretty low xD
L166[05:28:17] <Inari> 35kkm vs 1kkm
L167[05:28:18] <Izaya> Inari: internet weather balloons
L168[05:28:20] <Izaya> that'd be pretty cool
L169[05:28:21] <Inari> Or however you write that
L170[05:28:37] <Izaya> imagine a shifting meshnet of internet balloons
L171[05:28:42] <Izaya> that'd be fucking cool
L172[05:28:54] <XDjackieXD> google did work on such a thing
L173[05:29:01] <Izaya> yeah I saw that
L174[05:29:04] <Inari> Balloons are probably harder to use
L175[05:29:06] <Izaya> did it end up getting anywhere?
L176[05:29:10] <Inari> You need even more of them probably
L177[05:29:14] <Inari> and they deflate over time, no?
L178[05:29:19] <XDjackieXD> and it's not too bad of an idea because it's a lot cheaper than satellites
L179[05:29:27] <Izaya> yes, but they're recoverable and cheap to launch
L180[05:29:35] <Izaya> p. much just put some hydrogen in a balloon
L181[05:29:42] <Izaya> hope it doesn't get struck by lightning
L182[05:29:51] <Inari> And pay tons of recovery crews to pick them up whereever they fall :P
L183[05:30:00] <Inari> I think mass produced small satellites are better
L184[05:30:00] <XDjackieXD> Inari: good balloons not really. to regulate hight they just pump gas into a container or back into the balloon and should the container don't have anything left it will just come down slowly to be refilled
L185[05:30:02] <Izaya> Inari: nah, just pay people to bring them in
L186[05:30:32] <XDjackieXD> (and you'd be surprised how well you can control the position it lands at)
L187[05:30:49] <Izaya> would it be useful to add a rudder of some sort?
L188[05:30:54] <Izaya> would that work at all?
L189[05:31:01] <XDjackieXD> not really.
L190[05:31:04] <Izaya> RIP
L191[05:31:19] <XDjackieXD> you just choose a hight were the wind goes into the direction you want.
L192[05:31:27] <XDjackieXD> the same way hot air balloons steer
L193[05:31:35] <Izaya> huh
L194[05:31:38] <Izaya> that makes sense actually
L195[05:32:42] <Inari> https://www.reddit.com/r/AskOuija/comments/6guyl2/is_a_preferable_alternative_to_communism/
L196[05:33:57] <XDjackieXD> 35Mm and 1Mm sound more like correct heights :P
L197[05:34:13] <Izaya> million metres?
L198[05:34:19] <Inari> :P
L199[05:34:35] <Inari> Izaya: yeah
L200[05:34:41] <XDjackieXD> yep
L201[05:35:25] <XDjackieXD> considering that everything below ~300km is still considered atmosphere, 1100km sounds like a reasonable LEO
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L205[05:53:00] <AshIndigo> @Mettaton_Fab I can't fish in Terraria :/
L206[05:53:55] <Mettaton_Fab> How can you not fish in Terraria?
L207[05:54:29] <AshIndigo> I can never get the quest fish :/
L208[05:55:32] <Forecaster> I also cannot fish in terraria, mostly because I don't play terraria :P
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L211[06:21:56] <MGR> So dropped laptop = Zombie Apocalypse, and that's why shock-proof hard drives are good.
L212[06:22:14] <MGR> Yes, Toshiba, that is definitely not Insane Troll Logic and makes sense
L213[06:23:41] <AshIndigo> ?\
L214[06:26:06] <MGR> http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/InsaneTrollLogic
L215[06:26:24] <MGR> Ashindigo, Toshiba used a similar argument in one commercial to tout their shock-proof hard drives, because if a power station tech drops his laptop and breaks the hard disk, then it causes a glitch and the power will go out. If that happens, then your milk will spoil. If that happens, you'll drink the spoiled milk and turn into a zombie, then bite your roommate, who will then bite others until zombies roam the land. So dropped laptop = Zombie
L216[06:26:24] <MGR> Apocalypse, and that's why shock-proof hard drives are good.
L217[06:26:50] * Syrren valiantly resists the time-sucking black-hole that is TvTropes while cussing out MGR
L218[06:27:14] * AshIndigo opens the link
L219[06:27:20] * AshIndigo reads the page
L220[06:27:24] * AshIndigo closes it
L221[06:27:58] <MGR> Syrren, it's too late for me, save yourself
L222[06:29:18] <Inari> http://imgur.com/a/WSn73 right then
L223[06:30:31] <MGR> That seems like a really expensive game
L224[06:30:50] <Syrren> that's more pants-on-head than toshiba
L225[06:32:09] <MGR> Syrren, I can give you other examples of insane troll logic ?
L226[06:32:33] <MGR> You must join me in wasting endless amounts of time in TVTropes!
L227[06:33:46] <Syrren> my boss might just kill me. BTW, seems that my Corded-parsing script isn't causing highlights -- can you try pinging me again?
L228[06:34:31] <MGR> Syrren, who needs life when you have TVTropes ?
L229[06:34:39] <Syrren> Yep, no pings. Fuuuuuuuck.
L230[06:34:47] <MGR> That's odd
L231[06:34:54] <MGR> I can ping myself from Discord, MajGenRelativity
L232[06:35:02] <MajGenRelativity> Yep, that's a ping
L233[06:35:07] <Syrren> It's not a Corded problem, it's a weechat script problem
L234[06:35:22] <Syrren> script turned off, pings should work now
L235[06:35:36] <Syrren> it was nice having Discord messages show up just like IRC messages though :(
L236[06:35:47] <Syrren> Discord-side nicks would even tab-complete (sometimes)
L237[06:36:03] <MGR> Ah ok
L238[06:36:04] <XDjackieXD> I like the "sometimes" you appended xD
L239[06:36:10] <MGR> Heh
L240[06:39:57] <Inari> %tell notch you're (likely) not /that/ notch!
L241[06:39:58] <MichiBot> Inari: notch will be notified of this message when next seen.
L242[06:40:43] <Syrren> %seen notch
L243[06:40:43] <MichiBot> notch has not been seen
L244[06:40:45] <Syrren> ...?
L245[06:40:51] <Syrren> what's the point of the tell then?
L246[06:41:08] <Inari> In case someone called notch ever joins they'll get that
L247[06:41:09] <Inari> \o/
L248[06:41:15] <Syrren> \o/
L249[06:41:33] <XDjackieXD> xD
L250[06:41:50] <MGR> Well, i guess that makes sense
L251[06:42:07] <Inari> Just like how we should use tell for the no bots here warning
L252[06:42:22] <Inari> .%tell abot <nobotmsgs tuff>
L253[06:42:26] <Inari> from abot to ZZZZZZZZbot
L254[06:42:46] <Syrren> .%tell .*bot <nobotmsgstuff>
L255[06:43:02] <Inari> And after saving all the intiial tells, we just have to replace the ones that get triggered
L256[06:43:05] <Inari> </good software design>
L257[06:44:13] <Inari> cherry yogurt lunch time soon \o/
L258[06:45:12] <MGR> That idea makes less sense
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L260[06:45:34] <LuMistry> Greetings
L261[06:47:25] <MGR> Hello LuMistry, how are you?
L262[06:47:31] <LuMistry> I am well, you?
L263[06:47:42] <MGR> Doing ok, not much going on right now
L264[06:49:22] <MGR> Bob: Well, we're running a server that says its hot swappable. You gotta heat up the stuff so it'll work right, don't you?
L265[06:49:29] <MGR> Bob: Oh, I thought it meant 3 minutes on HIGH.
L266[06:49:43] <MGR> Please do not microwave your hot-swappable hard drives folks XD
L267[06:50:29] <XDjackieXD> lel
L268[06:51:15] <MGR> Some of these stories are just too much
L269[07:00:37] <AshIndigo> ~markov MajGenRelativity
L270[07:00:38] <ocdoc> Hi Kodos it could work in progress, but not about using bagel v1.4, which is stored value "forward" = robot.forward "backward" =
L271[07:01:04] <MGR> EYYYYYYYYYYYYYY it's bagel v1.4!
L272[07:01:30] <MGR> The legendary project that's been "Under construction" for the better part of a year with no work done!
L273[07:01:32] <AshIndigo> %inv add bagel v-1.4
L274[07:01:33] * MichiBot summons 'bagel v-1.4' and adds to her inventory. I could get some good swings in with this.
L275[07:01:55] <MGR> I remember when Izaya made a program to defeat bagel v1.3's verification system....
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L277[07:04:44] <XDjackieXD> what on earth is "bagel v1.x"? o.O
L278[07:05:02] <Saphire> Node.js thing
L279[07:05:13] * Saphire stuffs XDjackieXD's mouth with pancakes
L280[07:05:21] <Saphire> I made some pancakes :3
L281[07:05:30] <XDjackieXD> \o/ pancakes!
L282[07:05:39] <Saphire> XDjackieXD: oh wait, mistook with babel
L283[07:05:48] <Saphire> Dunno what bagel is
L284[07:06:08] <MGR> Bagel is my encryption system
L285[07:06:12] <Saphire> ...uh
L286[07:06:14] <MGR> It's not very good though
L287[07:06:22] * Saphire squints
L288[07:06:34] <Saphire> Does it use primes?
L289[07:06:39] <MGR> No
L290[07:07:05] <Saphire> Hmm, I should read up on elliptic curve cryptography
L291[07:07:35] <MGR> Yes
L292[07:07:51] <Saphire> Hmm?
L293[07:07:51] <MGR> I should also design a better cryptography system, but that's very far down the road
L294[07:07:59] <Izaya> grats MGR
L295[07:08:02] <MGR> I was affirming your statement
L296[07:08:02] <Izaya> still not great
L297[07:08:12] <Izaya> but I assume it's no longer just the sum of all the characters?
L298[07:08:22] <MGR> Izaya, it hasn't changed since you made your cracker program
L299[07:08:36] <Izaya> oh
L300[07:08:40] <Izaya> never mind then
L301[07:09:06] <MGR> I haven't worked on it at all since December 28, 2016
L302[07:09:24] <Saphire> You shouldn't design own cryptographic systems. Really, if you don't have a massive amount of /mathematics and cryptography scientists/... Designing an encryption system is rather.. well..
L303[07:09:42] <Izaya> it's a bad idea(TM)
L304[07:09:48] <XDjackieXD> rule number one of crypto: never roll your own crypto.
L305[07:09:57] <MGR> I'm aware
L306[07:10:09] <Saphire> Let's say, it is like trying to build a space shuttle without any knowledge except for the "it uses fire to fly"
L307[07:10:16] <MGR> BUT IT DOES USE FIRE TO FLY
L308[07:10:44] <XDjackieXD> It's hard but doable to design something secure but implementing it and not being vulnerable to things like sidechannel attacks or power glitching is really hard.
L309[07:10:47] <MGR> Bagel is bad, and I know it, and it will never be particularly secure, which is why it's just a side hobby for me
L310[07:10:56] <Saphire> Look, even the implementations of known encryption things are... Not always working correctly
L311[07:11:10] <MGR> Saphire, I'm not trying to argue that bagel is secure, it isn't
L312[07:11:24] <Saphire> Thanks for that :3
L313[07:11:26] <Izaya> https://pastebin.com/XsP9NcVA MGR, in future, you may want to use something like this
L314[07:11:29] <Saphire> I was just explaining
L315[07:11:40] <Izaya> CRC32 sucks but it's also a known thing
L316[07:11:48] <Izaya> and easily enough implemented in software
L317[07:11:53] <MGR> Yes
L318[07:11:57] <XDjackieXD> there once was an rsa implementation written in php on github. it even stated that it's just for educational purposes and nowhere near secure but it ended up in several big software products :>
L319[07:12:36] <MGR> XDjackieXD, then I guess you can look forward to hillariously insecure communications in the future
L320[07:12:38] <Saphire> Hm
L321[07:12:42] <XDjackieXD> crc32 isn't bad. it's just not something you should use for security in terms of encryption or signing. It's meant for detecting errors and it's very good at it.
L322[07:12:50] <Saphire> What do you call those primitive "necryption" things?
L323[07:12:53] <Saphire> Cypher?
L324[07:12:53] <MGR> Like, so insecure, if you read the source code, you can easily decrypt everything
L325[07:13:02] <XDjackieXD> lol
L326[07:13:11] <XDjackieXD> so you built a base64 alternative?
L327[07:13:12] <XDjackieXD> :P
L328[07:13:16] <MGR> Pretty much!
L329[07:13:27] <Saphire> MGR: tip, never EVER design encryption that is based only on the message content
L330[07:13:30] <Izaya> which is exactly the use it had, XDjackieXD, detecting errors or low-skill tampering
L331[07:13:49] <MGR> Saphire, it's never been designed for serious uses
L332[07:13:52] <Saphire> Wait, he made CRC64?
L333[07:13:56] <Izaya> 'course because bagel uses the sum of all the character values it was easy to spoof
L334[07:14:00] <Saphire> OH, so he just made error checking?
L335[07:14:09] <XDjackieXD> crc32 wansn't meant to detect tampering Izaya. it is purely for detecting transmission errors
L336[07:14:09] <Izaya> yeah it was just a shitty error checking thing
L337[07:14:12] <Izaya> hashing of a sort
L338[07:14:12] <MGR> Pretty much
L339[07:14:22] <Izaya> XDjackieXD: but it'll work against low-effort tampering
L340[07:14:24] <Saphire> hashing != error checking, not really
L341[07:14:29] <Izaya> don't use it for that
L342[07:14:32] <Izaya> but it will
L343[07:14:58] <Saphire> Heh
L344[07:15:08] <Izaya> bagel was basically, n=0 for char in str do n=n+string.byte(char) end return n
L345[07:15:27] <MGR> In the future, I'm probably going to focus more on the anti-tamper parts of bagel, because that's what really matters to me the most right now
L346[07:15:32] <Saphire> RSA is rather.. simple, I guess. But cracking it? Pretty darn impossible until you have several universes
L347[07:15:39] <Saphire> *unless
L348[07:15:47] <Izaya> use a smaller payload and add a few garbage characters lua ignores and you've spoofed it pretty easy
L349[07:15:48] <MGR> Or a quantum computer
L350[07:16:19] <XDjackieXD> well crackign rsa with quantum computers accelerates your efforts by multiple magnuitudes and quantum computers with enough qbits are not that far off
L351[07:16:24] <Izaya> anyone got an example of a GH pages thing for a project?
L352[07:16:50] <Izaya> was ed25519 better against quantum or traditional computers?
L353[07:16:52] * Izaya forgets
L354[07:17:19] <XDjackieXD> most ecc algorithms don't hold up well against quantum computers because of the waaay smaller keysize
L355[07:18:20] <MGR> All I know is that bagel doesn't hold up against anyone who cares enough to look for the source code
L356[07:18:49] <XDjackieXD> for PQ assymetric crypto, I currently know of ntru and next hope
L357[07:19:00] <XDjackieXD> *asymmetric
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L359[07:21:52] <Izaya> /buffer 49
L360[07:21:55] <Izaya> >.>
L361[07:22:02] <MGR> ?
L362[07:35:59] * AshIndigo buffers Izaya 49 times
L363[07:36:17] * Izaya buffers indefinitely
L364[07:39:27] <MGR> Sounds good
L365[07:40:05] <Izaya> rude
L366[07:40:44] <MGR> Well, it depends on what the buffering does
L367[07:41:17] * AshIndigo debuffs Mgr
L368[07:42:03] <MGR> Ack
L369[07:49:26] <XDjackieXD> can I jump forward in time one day? I don't want to do the final exam tomorrow >_>
L370[07:50:03] <MGR> Yes
L371[07:50:08] <AshIndigo> Sure
L372[07:50:27] <AshIndigo> You just have to wait
L373[07:51:10] <XDjackieXD> that doesn't really help
L374[07:51:39] <MGR> Get brain surgery that removes the parts of your brain responsible for time perception?
L375[07:52:07] <XDjackieXD> o.O
L376[08:00:13] <Inari> sounds somewhat similar to motion blindness
L377[08:01:15] <MGR> What?
L378[08:02:27] <MGR> Cus: Oh, nothing special. The computer was making this funny sound [hard drive accessing] whenever it started-up and accessing and stuff so I opened it up and found this little box where the noise was coming from. I just opened the box up and sprayed some WD-40 on it. I'm sure it helped a lot since there was no oil in it in the first place.
L379[08:02:45] <XDjackieXD> .-.
L380[08:02:50] <XDjackieXD> that sounds a lot like TFTS
L381[08:02:51] <MGR> This dude sprayed WD-40 on his hard drive. I can't stop laughing
L382[08:02:57] <MGR> TFTS?
L383[08:03:02] <XDjackieXD> tales from tech support
L384[08:03:12] <MGR> http://www.techtales.com/tftechs.php?m=199803#254
L385[08:03:22] <MGR> I'm dying
L386[08:03:24] <XDjackieXD> https://www.reddit.com/r/talesfromtechsupport/
L387[08:03:29] <XDjackieXD> ^ way better
L388[08:03:36] <MGR> The man didn't put the cover back on the hard drive when he lubricated it. When the hard drive spun up, the centrifugal force threw the oil ALL over the inside of the system. This stuff was all over the CPU, motherboard, expansion cards, EVERYWHERE, hence making it all un-usuable.
L389[08:03:49] <Skye> Well... At least you have some sense not to destroy things.
L390[08:04:08] <XDjackieXD> https://www.reddit.com/r/callcentres/comments/5htabz/i_need_you_to_fix_google_bing/
L391[08:04:17] <XDjackieXD> https://www.reddit.com/r/talesfromtechsupport/comments/1qjz3i/the_black_list_war_part_1/ this series is good too :P
L392[08:04:34] <Inari> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akinetopsia
L393[08:04:43] <MGR> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
L394[08:04:46] <MGR> What is that story
L395[08:05:27] <XDjackieXD> "I have a certificate of proficiency in computering!" xD
L396[08:05:47] <Izaya> "The Black List War Part 1" Is that another epic?
L397[08:05:59] <MGR> It sounds like it
L398[08:06:02] <MGR> And I want to read them all
L399[08:06:10] <Izaya> Oooh it's area88guy
L400[08:06:18] <XDjackieXD> it's quite old Izaya
L401[08:06:26] <AshIndigo> eugh "Google Bing"
L402[08:06:32] <XDjackieXD> and sadly not finished because he got into legal trouble after part 3
L403[08:06:38] <XDjackieXD> but it's still worth the read :P
L404[08:06:39] <Izaya> RIP
L405[08:06:49] <Izaya> I wonder if tuxedo_jack has done anything recently
L406[08:07:02] <XDjackieXD> idk
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L408[08:10:53] <AshIndigo> %juggle MichiBot
L409[08:10:53] * MichiBot juggles with analog hug, cat summoner & Feelings
L410[08:10:54] * MichiBot doesn't drop anything
L411[08:10:55] <MichiBot> I'm awesome!
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L413[08:11:05] <AshIndigo> :D
L414[08:11:55] <Inari> %jiggle AshIndigo
L415[08:11:57] * MichiBot jiggles AshIndigo
L416[08:12:05] <Inari> %pet AshIndigo
L417[08:12:05] * MichiBot pets AshIndigo with a salty surprise. AshIndigo recovers 3 health!
L418[08:12:11] <Inari> Ahu
L419[08:12:46] * AshIndigo baps DeeJayh
L420[08:12:52] <Inari> ~markov Inari
L421[08:12:53] <ocdoc> the heck is that in general or what was the newest :|
L422[08:13:24] <Inari> I'm in the mood to spend some money on a game and play that fro the next week or something. But I can't seem to find any game that seems interesting :|
L423[08:13:52] * AshIndigo tosses random games at Inari
L424[08:14:31] * Inari wonders if AmandaC is sleeping in today
L425[08:14:52] <AshIndigo> %choose code or not right now
L426[08:14:53] <MichiBot> AshIndigo: not right now
L427[08:15:07] * AmandaC meows at Inari
L428[08:15:11] <Inari> :P Ohi
L429[08:21:55] <AshIndigo> ~markov Corded
L430[08:21:56] <ocdoc> nope not getting my railroad yards, with setInterval it will do the gateway program so I can
L431[08:35:20] <AshIndigo> %inv add a thingie
L432[08:35:20] * MichiBot summons 'a thingie' and adds to her inventory. I could get some good swings in with this.
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L434[08:48:30] <Izaya> payonel: http://i.imgur.com/Yz3DgcB.png
L435[08:49:01] <Izaya> payonel: keep in mind that has all the programs/libraries in memory because it's an all-together kernel
L436[08:58:10] <ds84182> ~markov ocdoc
L437[08:58:10] <ocdoc> Actually, gamax92 is too lazy to mute me don't forget about me don't forget about me
L438[08:58:17] <ds84182> uh
L439[08:58:53] <AshIndigo> o.o
L440[08:59:06] * AshIndigo wants to know why ocdoc says that
L441[08:59:25] <ds84182> don't forget about medon't forget about medon't forget about me ( ͡º ͜ʖ ͡º)
L442[09:01:13] <AshIndigo> medon't
L443[09:04:00] <Michiyo> ocdoc says that because of this https://oclogs.pc-logix.com/parser.php?log=2015-07-26.log#L1457
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L445[09:12:17] * Saphire nomfs on Michiyo
L446[09:12:40] ⇨ Joins: Vexatos (~Vexatos@p5B3C9D9D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
L447[09:12:40] zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L448[09:12:41] <Saphire> Why do you have 10 guests on your empty forum on pc-logix.com?
L449[09:12:53] <g> ROBOTS
L450[09:12:57] <g> .............
L451[09:12:59] <g> robots*
L452[09:13:32] * Temia hugs ocdoc
L453[09:16:44] <AshIndigo> Ah
L454[09:16:44] * AshIndigo pets Temia
L455[09:16:44] <AshIndigo> Ah
L456[09:17:08] <Izaya> this is a "triumph"
L457[09:17:11] ⇦ Quits: Dark (~MrDark@2607:fcc8:d48b:eb00:c4a2:c772:3fca:15e4) (Ping timeout: 186 seconds)
L458[09:17:18] <AshIndigo> Oh god ircloud pls
L459[09:17:32] <Izaya> I managed to log in over my network shell program over IRC to a computer in Minecraft.
L460[09:17:46] <Izaya> I then managed to out-of-memory the machine I was using to bridge IRC -> OC network
L461[09:20:17] <Michiyo> Saphire, I should point out, it's 9, and you :P
L462[09:20:28] <Saphire> Shuddup >.>
L463[09:20:37] <Michiyo> Also yes, I got lots of spam, so I nuked the entire thing
L464[09:20:46] <Michiyo> so lots of those "guests" are trying to sign up right now. lol
L465[09:22:17] <Michiyo> I logged in one day with 430 new topics, and so many replies I just went nope, dropped the tables, reinstalled, and locked it down.
L466[09:23:02] <Saphire> ...apparently Immersive Engineering has early builds. But they're either compiled manually, or avaliable only to patreons?
L467[09:23:07] <Saphire> ._____.
L468[09:23:24] <Saphire> Michiyo: lol
L469[09:23:27] <g> A lot of projects do that
L470[09:23:33] <Michiyo> should I make a jenkins job for it too? :P
L471[09:23:52] <Izaya> is there any way to automatically restart a crashed OC computer?
L472[09:24:19] * AshIndigo picks up the tables and puts them into the trash
L473[09:24:20] <Saphire> g: I.. have some problems with that D:
L474[09:24:22] <g> you'd need some kind of hypervisor I guess
L475[09:24:23] <Saphire> It's...
L476[09:24:23] * AshIndigo picks up the tables and puts them into the trash
L477[09:24:38] <Izaya> g: the error I ran into was out of memoryu
L478[09:24:42] <g> ah right
L479[09:24:44] <Izaya> A hypervisor won't help me here
L480[09:25:10] <Saphire> Oh, whoops. It's not private jenkins
L481[09:25:14] <g> you can't switch them on with redstone can you?
L482[09:25:18] <Saphire> It's just that link is not publically available
L483[09:25:28] <Izaya> ~w wol
L484[09:25:28] <ocdoc> Predicted http://www.lua.org/manual/5.2/manual.html#pdf-dofile ( I tried D: )
L485[09:25:33] <Izaya> ~w wake on lan
L486[09:25:33] <ocdoc> Predicted http://ocd.cil.li/item:wlan_card
L487[09:25:45] <BoxFox> How you guys do today?
L488[09:25:52] <Michiyo> Saphire, wanna share? :P
L489[09:26:43] <g> Izaya, https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/781#issuecomment-70142162
L490[09:26:45] <Izaya> redstone.setWakeThreshold
L491[09:27:00] <g> component.modem.setWakeMessage
L492[09:27:21] <Izaya> I'd probably do a redstone timer
L493[09:27:37] <g> or you can use the comparator method in that link
L494[09:28:50] <Saphire> Michiyo: oookay, I think you setting it up is best solution >.> Just, uh.. set it at 11.2 branch? *coughs*
L495[09:29:02] <Saphire> ...I wonder how much space you got in there
L496[09:29:08] <Michiyo> lots?
L497[09:30:05] <Saphire> http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/mapping-and-modding/minecraft-mods/mods-discussion/2438768-immersive-engineering-download
L498[09:30:10] <Saphire> (old topic, 2015)
L499[09:30:27] <Saphire> ...I find it rather hilarious
L500[09:30:53] <Saphire> ...wait, what is its license?
L501[09:31:31] <Saphire> https://github.com/BluSunrize/ImmersiveEngineering/issues/1197
L502[09:31:32] <Saphire> oh gosh
L503[09:31:46] <gamax92> hi
L504[09:31:47] * Inari sips more bubbly orangejuice
L505[09:32:03] * gamax92 drinks tea
L506[09:32:21] <BoxFox> Picky picky picky
L507[09:32:23] <MGR> Saphire, that's me, if I had even less social skills and just didn't care
L508[09:32:41] * Vexatos murders the heretical Inari for trinking orange juice <100%
L509[09:32:58] <Vexatos> Disgusting D
L510[09:33:05] <Vexatos> D:
L511[09:33:22] <Inari> Eh it's nice to mix it with bubbly water, takes the odd taste away kind of
L512[09:33:28] <Vexatos> >odd
L513[09:33:38] <Vexatos> D:
L514[09:33:41] <Inari> Yeah, we've been here before
L515[09:33:51] <Inari> All those packaged OJs have an odd taste tot hem
L516[09:34:00] <Saphire> ...?
L517[09:34:03] <Skye> what about pure original orange juice
L518[09:34:18] <Inari> Skye: Dunno, probably tastes fine on it sown
L519[09:34:21] <Vexatos> I don't want to know where you get your orange juice from D:
L520[09:34:25] <Izaya> righto
L521[09:34:34] <Inari> But I'm not buying a press and using 3.5 oranges (which are a pain to acquire) for a glass of juice
L522[09:34:35] <Izaya> having more than 256k seems to help IRC bridges
L523[09:34:37] <Temia> Orange juice sounds nice right now...
L524[09:34:52] <Vexatos> You need two oranges for a glass of juice
L525[09:34:57] <Izaya> you can fit 512k in a microcontroller, it'll work
L526[09:35:15] <ds84182> someone said oRang
L527[09:35:18] <ds84182> do not trust pillars
L528[09:35:20] <Inari> glass = 250ml
L529[09:35:27] <Vexatos> yes
L530[09:35:32] <Vexatos> an orange usually has about 110 mL
L531[09:35:40] <Vexatos> source: Guess :I
L532[09:35:44] <Inari> My figures say 70
L533[09:35:53] <Vexatos> My years of drinking orange juice say 110
L534[09:36:15] <Vexatos> by years I mean since I can remember :I
L535[09:36:18] <Inari> Either way, can't easily get those and they're pricey
L536[09:36:24] <Vexatos> True
L537[09:36:34] <Vexatos> That's why you buy good €1/L orange juice from the supermarket
L538[09:36:37] <gamax92> Oranges are expensive in Germany?
L539[09:36:45] <Inari> So I buy the suppoed 100% orange juice and mix it with water :P
L540[09:36:50] <Vexatos> but
L541[09:36:51] <Vexatos> why
L542[09:36:51] <Vexatos> not
L543[09:36:52] <Vexatos> just
L544[09:36:52] <Vexatos> get
L545[09:36:53] <Vexatos> proper
L546[09:36:54] <Vexatos> juice
L547[09:36:55] <Vexatos> :I
L548[09:36:59] <Inari> CAuse theres none
L549[09:37:00] <XDjackieXD> not really expensive but it's cheaper to buy orange juice :P
L550[09:37:02] <ds84182> fuck your proper juice shit
L551[09:37:07] <ds84182> just drink fucking water dammit
L552[09:37:12] <gamax92> Vexatos don't do that
L553[09:37:15] <Vexatos> There are like five supermarkets in my village alone D:
L554[09:37:19] <Saphire> >proper juice
L555[09:37:24] <Inari> Vexatos: Theres one here
L556[09:37:27] <Inari> Define "proper juice"
L557[09:37:29] <Saphire> Please define what the hell is "proper juice"
L558[09:37:31] * Skye drinks milk
L559[09:37:31] <Syrren> >>not green greentext
L560[09:37:32] <Vexatos> 100% fruit content
L561[09:37:36] <Inari> This has
L562[09:37:42] <Inari> Still looks weird
L563[09:37:42] <XDjackieXD> Inari: something high quality with 100% juice content
L564[09:37:43] <Saphire> Because, you know, there's that shitty "Juicero" thing
L565[09:37:44] <Inari> and has an odd taste
L566[09:37:48] <Vexatos> is it orange?
L567[09:37:53] <Vexatos> Or yellow >_>
L568[09:37:53] <Inari> Yes :P
L569[09:37:55] <Michiyo> No, it's blue.
L570[09:37:57] <Inari> Oh
L571[09:37:58] <Michiyo> .-.
L572[09:37:59] <Inari> Dunno
L573[09:38:01] <Saphire> XDjackieXD: uh..
L574[09:38:01] <ds84182> > orange juice being orange
L575[09:38:07] <Inari> in my experience orange juice is kinda translucent
L576[09:38:08] <ds84182> what is this, juice for fancy people?
L577[09:38:11] <Vexatos> ds84182, orange orange juice does exist
L578[09:38:13] <Vexatos> Inari, what
L579[09:38:17] <Inari> At least from actaul oranges
L580[09:38:20] <Vexatos> Then it's clearly not orange juice
L581[09:38:32] <Vexatos> orange juice is opaque and bright yellow usually
L582[09:38:36] <Inari> Vexatos: Well whenever I squeezed an orange it wasn't as weird looking :P
L583[09:38:46] <Vexatos> what is "weird"
L584[09:38:49] <ds84182> Next you're going to tell me that Mello Yellow is yellow
L585[09:38:52] <Inari> opaque
L586[09:38:55] <Vexatos> But
L587[09:38:57] <Vexatos> it is supposed to be
L588[09:39:01] <Inari> xD
L589[09:39:03] <Inari> Anyway
L590[09:39:06] <Vexatos> If it's not opaque you are doing something wrong
L591[09:39:11] <Inari> It has an odd taste to it, adding bubbly water helps with that apparently
L592[09:39:13] <Vexatos> orange juice is opaque, yellow, has about 9g/L of sugar
L593[09:39:30] <XDjackieXD> Vexatos, the master of orange juice :P
L594[09:39:31] <Vexatos> is slightly bitter if you buy the good brands, i.e. those that cost less than €1.20 per litre+
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L596[09:39:39] <Vexatos> (the cheaper, the better-tasting usually)
L597[09:39:50] <Vexatos> XDjackieXD, I drink orange juice every day since I can remember
L598[09:39:57] <Inari> I'll report back when I arrive at the orange juice
L599[09:39:58] <XDjackieXD> o.O
L600[09:39:58] <MGR> https://www.reddit.com/r/talesfromtechsupport/comments/1qej8t/the_black_list_buzzwords_and_biohazards/
L601[09:40:02] <Inari> this is orange-mandarin
L602[09:40:08] <MGR> That story is nuts
L603[09:40:12] <Vexatos> well of course that is different ,_,
L604[09:40:20] <Inari> Well I've tried other OJ before
L605[09:40:28] <MGR> Computers got destroyed in a micribiotic R&D facility by escaped bacteria
L606[09:40:30] <XDjackieXD> MGR: yeah the area88guy stories are great :P
L607[09:40:33] <gamax92> Inari: are you a fan of cherry?
L608[09:40:35] <Inari> But this pack is lamost empty anyway so I can tlell you what the pure OJ is like then
L609[09:40:55] <Inari> gamax92: So-so. I love cherries but cherry juice is often too acidy or such. Makes me throat feel irritated
L610[09:41:55] <Inari> I love grapejuice (well mostly) too :P
L611[09:41:59] <Inari> But it works as a laxative
L612[09:42:00] <Inari> :<
L613[09:42:07] <gamax92> Throwing sugar in a drink isn't always bad, can just be cutting down on acid
L614[09:42:19] <gamax92> acidic? words
L615[09:42:25] <Inari> As long as it doesn't make it taste like pure dextrose
L616[09:43:05] <Vexatos> I never put sugar in my drinks, they're all sweet enough already
L617[09:43:10] <Saphire> Uh
L618[09:43:12] <Saphire> Halp
L619[09:43:19] <Saphire> I need to choose a license >.>
L620[09:43:19] <Vexatos> Unless it's tea or water, and those are not supposed to be sweet
L621[09:43:30] <Inari> Just BSD?
L622[09:43:31] <Skye> Saphire, hm?
L623[09:44:35] <MGR> XDjackieXD, yes they are!
L624[09:45:09] <Syrren> Saphire: easy, use the WTFPL
L625[09:45:18] <Mettaton_Fab> selfmade grape juice can be a great laxative
L626[09:45:24] <Syrren> http://www.wtfpl.net/
L627[09:45:33] <Mettaton_Fab> well, if you let it sit for like a month or so.
L628[09:45:38] <gamax92> TIL grape juice is a laxative
L629[09:46:11] <Saphire> https://www.google.com/patents/US6360693
L630[09:46:13] <Saphire> Heh
L631[09:46:47] <Syrren> ...
L632[09:47:01] <Saphire> Syrren: Uh..
L633[09:47:01] <Syrren> they patented a plastic dog toy
L634[09:47:37] <Inari> gamax92: Just try drinking 5 glasses in a row
L635[09:48:11] <Saphire> Syrren: read more of it
L636[09:48:20] <Saphire> They didn't patented just a platic dog toy
L637[09:48:28] <Saphire> They patented a /stick dog toy/
L638[09:48:35] <Saphire> Or, actually, stick.
L639[09:48:47] <gamax92> Inari: I don't have grape juice
L640[09:48:49] <Saphire> Like, they literally patented a fucking stick.
L641[09:48:54] <Syrren> ...they fucking did
L642[09:49:07] <Syrren> WHY
L643[09:49:11] <Syrren> DEAR GOD WHY
L644[09:49:14] <gamax92> It's expired
L645[09:49:20] <Syrren> doesn't matter
L646[09:49:36] <Syrren> it's like every patent office in the world is pants-on-head retarded
L647[09:49:47] <Turtle> Just horrificly overworked
L648[09:51:19] <Saphire> http://www.ipwatchdog.com/2010/10/06/animal-toy-patent/id=12711/
L649[09:55:29] <Michiyo> http://ci.pc-logix.com/job/3rd%20Party%20Mods/job/ImmersiveEngineering/4/ happy birthmas Saphire :P
L650[09:55:40] <Saphire> x3
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L652[09:59:10] <Michiyo> there, moved all of the 3rd party mods I build to that folder
L653[10:00:38] <MGR> Which language are you trying to write in sir? User: New Times Roman.
L654[10:00:53] <MGR> No sir, you must switch your language to Calibri
L655[10:04:47] * AshIndigo programs in Ariel
L656[10:05:04] <MGR> Nah, Comic Sans ftw
L657[10:05:39] <AshIndigo> That's for the masochists though!
L658[10:08:12] <MGR> Psh
L659[10:12:28] <Izaya> \o/
L660[10:12:49] <Izaya> not that anyone cares but I did a new 'stable' MultICE release
L661[10:13:17] <Vexatos> AshIndigo, http://i.imgur.com/Ih4pSgK.png
L662[10:13:24] <payonel> Izaya: that's is so beautiful :) [ 45k mem() ]
L663[10:13:35] <payonel> Izaya: i can definitely not beat that
L664[10:13:47] <gamax92> beat that
L665[10:13:52] <Izaya> payonel: I think you'd end up gutting OpenOS if you tried :P
L666[10:14:18] <Izaya> I managed to OOM one of my network bridges though, threw a lot of IRC traffic at it and it died
L667[10:17:05] <AshIndigo> Vexatos: why?!
L668[10:17:29] <Vexatos> to annoy you?
L669[10:17:44] <AshIndigo> Valid reason
L670[10:19:11] <Skye> Izaya, if payonel tried, they'd get miniOS but better
L671[10:19:16] <gamax92> oh. well I guess I'm not playing Overwatch any time soon.
L672[10:19:43] <gamax92> "you've been placed in a queue." "Estimated wait: ~185 minutes"
L673[10:19:48] <payonel> Skye: what do you mean by "get miniOS" ?
L674[10:20:07] <gamax92> ...
L675[10:20:11] <gamax92> it jumped up to 460 minutes
L676[10:20:45] <gamax92> %lua math.floor(460/60), (460%60)
L677[10:20:45] <MichiBot> 7, 40
L678[10:20:47] <gamax92> aaaaaaaa
L679[10:22:06] <Skye> payonel, I mean that miniOS is basically OpenOS stripped to its core
L680[10:22:50] <payonel> oh i understand
L681[10:23:17] <Skye> it's actually horrible
L682[10:23:25] <MajGenRelativity> payonel, did you get my message?
L683[10:23:25] <Skye> but it's the only thing I've actually finished
L684[10:25:05] <Michiyo> Saphire, new IE build... lol
L685[10:25:15] <Michiyo> I set it to look at git every 15 minutes for changes, and to build
L686[10:25:25] <Michiyo> so within 15 minutes of a commit there will be a new build
L687[10:25:54] <Syrren> s/15 minutes/7.5 minutes, on average/
L688[10:25:54] <MichiBot> <Michiyo> so within 7.5 minutes, on average of a commit there will be a new build
L689[10:33:41] <MGR> "Does this keyboard work with Internet ?"
L690[10:33:58] <LuMistry> No
L691[10:35:05] <MGR> Darn
L692[10:37:27] * AshIndigo baps steam
L693[10:40:38] * g baguettes steam
L694[10:41:11] <Temia> Oh, quick question: Is there a repository for Corded's codebase?
L695[10:41:28] <Temia> Some other folks are having trouble with their bridge so I thought it'd be worth passing it along to them.
L696[10:43:13] <gamax92> Temia: https://github.com/CaitlynMainer/Yuri
L697[10:43:53] <Temia> Ah, thanks.
L698[10:45:59] <gamax92> Temia: also the original https://github.com/DV8FromTheWorld/Yui
L699[10:46:23] <gamax92> probably should have just linked that one instead ...
L700[10:47:23] <g> the bridge I see most people using is the node-based `discord-irc`
L701[10:47:32] <g> but unfortunately it uses node-irc which is kinda bork
L702[10:47:41] <g> and they borked the entire thing as well yesterday as far as I can see
L703[10:48:20] <Michiyo> Temia, warning, the config is a bit stupid.
L704[10:48:26] <Michiyo> if help is needed, I can provide.
L705[10:48:32] <Temia> Alright
L706[10:50:03] <Michiyo> also.. if they want prebuilt binaries they're on my jenkins
L707[10:50:31] <Michiyo> http://ci.pc-logix.com/job/Yuri/ the -withDeps is likely the easiest
L708[10:52:00] <Michiyo> Yui doesn't have lots of the features I'd want in a bridge, which is why Yuri was forked.
L709[10:52:24] <Michiyo> It doesn't relay file attachments, it doesn't do mentions, etc
L710[10:59:03] <gamax92> oh
L711[10:59:25] <gamax92> and now it's down to 46 minutes
L712[10:59:33] <gamax92> What is this, Windows?
L713[11:08:34] <gamax92> and now it's 0, logged in :D
L714[11:08:55] <Vexatos> I am having way more fun than I should have https://aww.moe/ahho34.png
L715[11:09:57] <gamax92> Vexatos: what is this
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L717[11:10:03] <Vexatos> a spectrum
L718[11:10:13] * Vexatos is being useful
L719[11:12:27] <Vexatos> It is a spectrum of the spinniness of spinny things in a spinny environment
L720[11:12:31] <Vexatos> i.e. NMR
L721[11:12:48] <Vexatos> way too much fun
L722[11:15:07] <Vexatos> Now I just need to put this stuff into a table so everyone knows which spinniness belongs to which spinny thing :I
L723[11:18:09] <DeeJayh> %inv add fidget spinner
L724[11:18:11] * MichiBot summons 'fidget spinner' and adds to her inventory. This seems very sturdy.
L725[11:21:56] <Saphire> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpTlQG6c3lE
L726[11:21:57] <MichiBot> Starlink: Battle for Atlas: E3 2017 Official Announcement Trailer | Ubisoft [US] | length: 2m 12s | Likes: 856 Dislikes: 178 Views: 120,700 | by Ubisoft US | Published On 12/6/2017
L727[11:21:58] <Saphire> Lol
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L729[11:22:17] <Saphire> No Man's Sky: Ubisoft Edition - Now with shitty microtransactions!
L730[11:25:55] ⇦ Quits: Nachtara (~Nachiebre@173-22-110-5.client.mchsi.com) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
L731[11:31:53] <MGR> Sir, when did your printer stop working? Client: *pause* ummmmm when it caught on fire....
L732[11:36:30] <MajGenRelativity> ~w data
L733[11:36:30] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:data
L734[11:37:44] <gamax92> panic
L735[11:37:48] <gamax92> time to panic
L736[11:39:09] <MGR> ???
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L738[11:45:43] <Michiyo> https://michi.pc-logix.com/2017-06-13_11-45-38.png
L739[11:46:13] <MGR> Lol
L740[11:46:23] <gamax92> heh.
L741[11:47:54] <XDjackieXD> lol
L742[11:48:12] <MGR> A client asked to have his computer upgraded with a new video board. He did try but was having trouble removing the old one so he could get in the new one. When I opened the case I realized the task was not going the be very easy. Every expansion slot was filled with silicone caulk. When asked why, the client said that he was worried about moisture and rusting
L743[11:48:39] <MGR> I did that to my expensive motherboard too!
L744[11:48:46] <XDjackieXD> o.O
L745[11:49:01] <MGR> /sarcasm
L746[11:49:07] <XDjackieXD> I was hoping so :P
L747[11:49:14] <MGR> The client story was real though
L748[11:50:10] <XDjackieXD> well the worry is definitely appropriate if he lives directly at the coast and the contacts aren't gold plated. when I was in Ecuador some years ago most hotels had PCs but those at the cost were completely rusted
L749[11:51:42] <MGR> True, and this is an old story, so I don't know if contacts were gold plated back then
L750[11:51:44] <Forecaster> %juggle 5
L751[11:51:46] * MichiBot juggles with no tea, even more sushi, java racism, a taser & Moe
L752[11:51:47] * MichiBot drops no tea which takes 1 damage
L753[11:51:48] * MichiBot drops java racism which takes 3 damage, java racism flies up into space and collides with a satellite.
L754[11:51:49] * MichiBot drops a taser which takes 1 damage
L755[11:51:50] * MichiBot drops Moe which takes 2 damage
L756[11:51:51] <MichiBot> I didn't do it!
L757[11:51:55] <MGR> But I still feel like there were better ways to handle that
L758[11:52:37] <XDjackieXD> MGR: even back in the days everything that was in the upper tiers had gold plated contacts (even the i368dx I got on my shelf)
L759[11:53:56] <MGR> Ok
L760[11:54:32] <XDjackieXD> best way to handle this? get an air dehumidifier and don't put your pc next to a window on the coast side of your house...
L761[11:54:38] <MGR> Yes
L762[11:56:59] <Michiyo> caulk o_O!
L763[11:57:08] <Michiyo> Use non conductive grease or something.. lol
L764[11:57:47] <XDjackieXD> there are spray-paint type things made especially to protect elecronics and contacts from corrosion
L765[11:58:31] <MGR> Yeah
L766[11:58:43] <MGR> But who needs that when you have caulk!
L767[11:58:55] <MGR> Too bad he isn't the guy who sprayed WD-40 on his HDD
L768[11:59:10] <XDjackieXD> worst case: get an oil-cooled pc. nothing can corrode there! :P
L769[11:59:25] <MGR> EXACTLY
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L771[12:08:07] <iamkryfor> hey, can someone help me with this server rack problem? I can't figure it out :( (http://imgur.com/a/bZYaj)
L772[12:08:40] <Forecaster> what problem?
L773[12:10:12] <Saphire> iamkryfor: put in an OpenOS floppy
L774[12:10:25] <Saphire> ONE
L775[12:10:29] <iamkryfor> i'll try
L776[12:11:15] <Saphire> Oh, and don't forget that you need to actually connect the server (one inside of GUI) to a side
L777[12:11:33] <Forecaster> that's most likely what you haven't done
L778[12:11:39] <Saphire> (In GUI of server rack)
L779[12:11:45] <iamkryfor> mmh maybe thats it...
L780[12:12:17] <iamkryfor> -.- im noob. thanks for the help anyway :)
L781[12:18:23] <Mimiru> holy shit.. a queue to even use the launcher o_O
L782[12:21:00] <Inari> FF?
L783[12:21:21] <Mimiru> Bliz
L784[12:21:25] <Inari> Oo
L785[12:21:32] <Inari> Did I miss something xD
L786[12:21:54] <Mimiru> 11 -> 7 -> 9
L787[12:21:56] <Mimiru> ._.
L788[12:22:03] <Inari> Heh
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L790[12:25:59] <iamkryfor> hey again, i'm trying to create now some sort of supercomputer and the remote terminal is all bugged. I'm i doing this right http://imgur.com/a/bzTBy ?
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L792[12:26:30] <Mimiru> That's not how this works, that's not how any of these works.
L793[12:26:40] <iamkryfor> :(
L794[12:26:49] <Inari> Heh
L795[12:26:51] <iamkryfor> i can't find any proper docs
L796[12:27:01] <Mimiru> s/these.this
L797[12:27:13] <Mimiru> can't eat and type damn it
L798[12:27:51] <MGR> iamkryfor, what exactly are you trying to do?
L799[12:27:57] <iamkryfor> supercomputer
L800[12:28:03] <iamkryfor> with tons of memory :p
L801[12:28:11] <Mimiru> Anyway, you can't just connect a bunch of servers and hope for automatic parallel computing
L802[12:28:13] <XDjackieXD> iamkryfor: the remote terminal basically behaves like a screen + keyboard. you can't have it connected to more than one server at a time
L803[12:28:15] <MGR> No, you can't do that
L804[12:28:15] <Mimiru> you can't do that in RL
L805[12:28:18] <Mimiru> you can't do that here.
L806[12:28:33] <DeeJayh> tmux
L807[12:28:40] <DeeJayh> ah
L808[12:28:41] <MGR> HPOS would let you do that, but you can't just string servers together and get a faster one
L809[12:28:47] <DeeJayh> more than one machine, nvm
L810[12:29:03] <DeeJayh> Misreading: "The less you know!"
L811[12:29:38] <iamkryfor> mmh, so 1 terminal = 1 server? and there's no way of creating shared resources?
L812[12:29:42] <Mimiru> at BEST you'd have to write software specifically to split work across clusters..
L813[12:30:11] <Inari> http://imgur.com/gallery/LTqPE thats neat
L814[12:30:12] <Mimiru> but what you have there is just going to break stuff.
L815[12:30:26] <XDjackieXD> iamkryfor: well you can write your own system for multiplexing terminals or for parallel computing but nothing that already exists that I'm aware of
L816[12:30:31] <MGR> iamkryfor, there is a way of sharing resources, but it would be a crapton of work
L817[12:30:55] <Mimiru> damn... back to work
L818[12:30:59] <iamkryfor> yeah maybe i'll make a mainframe with terminal and then split the task for multiple servers...
L819[12:30:59] <MGR> you'd have to write a software abstraction layer, and deal with NUMA, and not everything parallelizes, and the server doesn't always have enough threads, and so on and so on
L820[12:31:05] <XDjackieXD> Inari: yes but a ton of work to maintain if not enclosed because dust will trap in there everywhere :P
L821[12:31:39] <Inari> Just brush over it
L822[12:31:50] <XDjackieXD> iamkryfor: welcome to the wonderful (and complicated) world of supercomputers
L823[12:32:05] <MGR> inb4 InfiniBand and 100G Ethernet in OC
L824[12:32:35] <XDjackieXD> MGR: have fun making the lua interpreter A LOT faster
L825[12:32:40] <iamkryfor> seems complicated ... better start now :p
L826[12:32:57] <MGR> XDjackieXD, psh easy, just overclock it
L827[12:33:04] <MGR> iamkryfor, or, you can wait for HPOS
L828[12:33:12] <MGR> Also, what do you have that needs that much processing power?
L829[12:33:28] <iamkryfor> nothing, i just want it
L830[12:33:34] <XDjackieXD> Inari: also from my experience pcie risers with more than about 10cm are "suboptimal" to say the least. usually doesn't run at more than pcie 1.1 speed...
L831[12:33:45] <MGR> iamkryfor, then I suggest waiting for HPOS
L832[12:33:51] <iamkryfor> btw what's HPOS?
L833[12:35:01] <S3> XDjackieXD: why not just go back to isa
L834[12:35:52] <XDjackieXD> S3: because even an atmega32 has enough power to drive ISA at full speed...
L835[12:36:16] <S3> :)
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L837[12:36:46] <S3> I like setting irq jumpers
L838[12:37:07] <MajGenRelativity> iamkryfor, HPOS is my OS
L839[12:37:16] <MajGenRelativity> If you'd like to discuss it more, please PM me
L840[12:37:29] <S3> Is it like hpux?
L841[12:37:39] <MajGenRelativity> What's hpux?
L842[12:37:43] <S3> ......
L843[12:37:44] <gamax92> Horrible Piece of Shit
L844[12:37:54] <XDjackieXD> xD
L845[12:37:57] <S3> Rofl!!!
L846[12:38:21] <MajGenRelativity> gamax92, that is not what the acronym stands for
L847[12:38:23] <S3> I need to drive to the University...
L848[12:38:29] <MajGenRelativity> It's High Performance Operating System
L849[12:38:33] <gamax92> oh sorry, could only assume knowing GERTi
L850[12:38:35] <S3> Wait what
L851[12:38:45] <S3> What makes it high performance
L852[12:38:51] <gamax92> OS/2
L853[12:39:17] <MajGenRelativity> gamax92, have you looked at the GERTi code?
L854[12:39:22] <Vexatos> I have :D
L855[12:39:26] <MajGenRelativity> S3, it will support parallel computing
L856[12:39:32] <Vexatos> But OpenOS already has that
L857[12:39:33] <MajGenRelativity> Vexatos, please do not even start with me
L858[12:39:41] <S3> Mgr: how
L859[12:39:53] <Vexatos> since three days ago
L860[12:39:54] <Vexatos> but it does
L861[12:39:54] <S3> If so computers run on the same thread...
L862[12:41:48] <S3> Mgr: is your os magic?
L863[12:41:53] <MajGenRelativity> I PM'd you on Discord, but just realized you weren't online there. S3, multiple computers run on different threads by config default
L864[12:42:24] <S3> Continuations
L865[12:42:56] <S3> Continuations and actors
L866[12:43:00] <S3> All you need
L867[12:43:18] <Vexatos> MajGenRelativity, http://ocdoc.cil.li/api:thread
L868[12:43:24] <Vexatos> you seen that, right
L869[12:43:26] <S3> You can use the consistent having algorithm to handle payload
L870[12:44:05] <MajGenRelativity> Vexatos, yes I have seen that
L871[12:44:10] <Inari> http://vid.pr0gramm.com/2017/06/13/67888848a3870293.mp4 o.o
L872[12:44:16] <MajGenRelativity> That does not allow for concurrent multi-threading though
L873[12:44:23] <Vexatos> Nothing does
L874[12:44:39] <MajGenRelativity> On one computer, yes
L875[12:44:44] <Vexatos> exactly
L876[12:44:46] <S3> Vexatos: is that available outside of openos?
L877[12:45:02] <MajGenRelativity> But HPOS is designed to network 2 or more computers together and make them look like one, but with multiple "cores"
L878[12:45:09] <Vexatos> S3, no
L879[12:45:12] <S3> Ok
L880[12:45:15] <XDjackieXD> Inari: xD
L881[12:45:21] <Vexatos> it depends quite a bit on the /lib/event
L882[12:45:27] <Vexatos> and /lib/process
L883[12:45:32] <Vexatos> ask payonel for details >_>
L884[12:45:41] <S3> MajGenRelativity: I stopped caring about having a normal computer and just started using the actor model
L885[12:45:45] <Vexatos> MajGenRelativity, so how is that "high performance" in any way
L886[12:45:52] <Vexatos> you are not very good at naming things methinks
L887[12:45:55] <S3> Now I can have my computer on a bunch of machines at once
L888[12:46:03] <S3> And user the actor model with selene
L889[12:46:07] <S3> To do things
L890[12:46:10] <Vexatos> ...
L891[12:46:12] <Vexatos> you use selene
L892[12:46:13] <Vexatos> as in
L893[12:46:14] <Vexatos> seriously
L894[12:46:19] <Inari> Vexatos: Esp. since it sounds like "huge piece of shit"
L895[12:46:27] <Vexatos> Inari, actually
L896[12:46:33] <Vexatos> MajGenRelativity, correction
L897[12:46:34] <S3> Vexatos: functional shorthands are addicting
L898[12:46:37] <MajGenRelativity> Vexatos, if your task can be scaled out, it's higher performance
L899[12:46:39] <Vexatos> you are VERY good at finding acronyms for your things
L900[12:46:49] <Vexatos> Just not in the way you want
L901[12:47:06] * MajGenRelativity clicks
L902[12:47:47] <Vexatos> S3, you using latest selene?
L903[12:47:51] <S3> Linux: Linux Is Not Ur Xylophone.
L904[12:47:56] <Vexatos> Because I fixed like ten million bugs last week or so
L905[12:48:12] <S3> Vexatos: whatever's in git
L906[12:48:22] <Vexatos> last commit was four days ago
L907[12:48:39] <S3> Time to pull
L908[12:48:41] <S3> But later
L909[12:48:49] <Vexatos> S3, you seen that MichiBot has %sel now?
L910[12:50:26] <S3> I am zoidberg n discord
L911[12:50:33] <S3> On*
L912[12:50:43] <S3> Woah it works now!!!
L913[12:50:50] <S3> Sell was broken the other day
L914[12:50:55] <Vexatos> %sell a knee
L915[12:50:56] <MichiBot> Vexatos: a knee is now in stock! Get it before it's gone! 88.99 plus tax!
L916[12:51:04] <Vexatos> yup, works
L917[12:51:40] <S3> %sel sudo make me a sandwich
L918[12:51:41] <MichiBot> main:1: syntax error near 'make'
L919[12:51:51] <AshIndigo> %sell MichiBot
L920[12:51:51] <MichiBot> AshIndigo: MichiBot is now in stock! Get it before it's gone! 88.99 plus tax!
L921[12:51:52] <S3> Not broken yeah
L922[12:52:16] <Vexatos> %sel (->(->4))(->)()
L923[12:52:16] <MichiBot> 4
L924[12:52:18] <Vexatos> best
L925[12:52:28] <Lizzy> %buy MichiBot
L926[12:52:34] <S3> Fast
L927[12:52:36] <Vexatos> %garbage
L928[12:52:36] * MichiBot kicks a can in the tentacle pit
L929[12:52:41] <gamax92> Vexatos: Thistle
L930[12:52:54] <Vexatos> I like thistles
L931[12:53:04] <Vexatos> Nice flowers
L932[12:53:18] <S3> I want to keep working on my actor thing for OC but I am learning elixir
L933[12:53:18] <gamax92> mmhm
L934[12:53:28] <Vexatos> gamax92, what about Thistle
L935[12:53:34] <gamax92> naming
L936[12:53:41] <Vexatos> well it's a nice name :I
L937[12:53:54] <gamax92> Just like Selene is a fairly random name
L938[12:54:05] <Vexatos> except
L939[12:54:08] <gamax92> (moon yes i know)
L940[12:54:09] <Vexatos> selene is the goddess of the moon
L941[12:54:15] <Vexatos> yes...
L942[12:54:19] <Vexatos> Not really random at all
L943[12:54:24] <gamax92> mmhm
L944[12:54:37] <Vexatos> Coming from a guy who has an encyclopedia of greek mythology sitting next to him on a shelf
L945[12:54:55] <Vexatos> (also Roman, Norse, Phoenician, ...)
L946[12:55:43] <gamax92> Vexatos: well I tried okay :I
L947[12:56:35] <Vexatos> and failed gloriously :D
L948[12:56:54] <Vexatos> gamax92, I even have a logo! This is like, almost legit :D
L949[12:56:56] <gamax92> Vexatos: still better then hpos
L950[12:57:08] <Vexatos> to be honest, hpos is appropriately named :⁾
L951[12:57:43] <gamax92> Vexatos: and Thistle is bad>
L952[12:57:44] <gamax92> ?
L953[12:58:02] <Vexatos> no
L954[12:58:05] <Vexatos> Thistle is a nice name
L955[12:58:11] <Vexatos> It's just _actually_ random :P
L956[12:59:15] <Mettaton_Fab> %garbage
L957[12:59:16] * MichiBot kicks a can in the tentacle pit
L958[12:59:37] <Vexatos> %garbage GERTi
L959[12:59:37] * MichiBot throws 'GERTi' in a hole with lava in it, it was never seen again.
L960[12:59:38] <Vexatos> so nice
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L963[13:00:05] <gamax92> Vexatos: appopriately named things sound bad
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L965[13:03:41] <Kodos> !unban Gavle
L966[13:03:41] *** zsh sets mode: -b *!*@welcome.to.bantown.com
L967[13:03:49] <Kodos> Woo, actually remembered
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L969[13:06:39] <Dudblockman> %garbage a mod
L970[13:06:39] * MichiBot throws 'a mod' in the incinerator, it was never seen again.
L971[13:07:09] <Michiyo> Kodos, did you forget about tban?
L972[13:07:19] <Michiyo> %tban
L973[13:07:28] <Michiyo> oh.. did I not add a usage error?
L974[13:07:29] <Michiyo> huh
L975[13:08:08] <Michiyo> %help tban
L976[13:08:28] <Michiyo> Timed ban: %tban User Time Reason Ex: %tban MGR 24h Spamming
L977[13:08:44] <MajGenRelativity> But of course
L978[13:08:58] <Kodos> I did!
L979[13:09:21] <Michiyo> MGR <3 :P lol
L980[13:09:57] <MajGenRelativity> :)
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L982[13:17:43] * Michiyo yawns
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L986[13:19:17] <Michiyo> %tban Michi 2m cause <3
L987[13:19:20] *** Michi was kicked by zsh ((MichiBot) Reason: cause <3 | For: 2m | Expires: 06/13/2017 01:21:18 PM))
L988[13:19:24] <Michiyo> umm
L989[13:19:24] <Michiyo> lmao
L990[13:19:30] <MajGenRelativity> They're multiplying!
L991[13:19:40] <Michiyo> %p
L992[13:19:41] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Michiyo 0.35s
L993[13:19:55] <Michiyo> So, anyone on my bouncer right now is banned..
L994[13:19:57] <Michiyo> oops.
L995[13:20:03] <Michiyo> but let's see if it unbans!
L996[13:20:55] <XDjackieXD> gg
L997[13:21:11] <gamax92> tick tock
L998[13:21:18] <MichiBot> Timed ban of Michi Expired. Placed by: Michiyo
L999[13:21:23] <gamax92> but where is the unban
L1000[13:21:24] <Michiyo> ...
L1001[13:22:22] <Michiyo> hmm
L1002[13:22:29] *** Michiyo sets mode: -b *!*@hekate.pc-logix.com
L1003[13:22:34] <Michiyo> time to look at MichiBot's logs.
L1004[13:23:03] <Michiyo> well...
L1005[13:23:03] <Michiyo> chanserv unban #oc *!*@Michi!~Michi@hekate.pc-logix.com
L1006[13:23:10] * Michiyo sighs
L1007[13:24:00] <Kodos> What was the issue
L1008[13:24:05] <XDjackieXD> Michiyo: what is used to determine if someone is allowed to use %tban? ban permission or per person whitelist?
L1009[13:24:40] <Michiyo> the latter, I have to give perms with MichiBot for it
L1010[13:24:51] <XDjackieXD> ok good ^^
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L1012[13:25:16] <Kodos> Who all is whitelisted atm anywa
L1013[13:25:18] <Michiyo> Kodos, the issue is the last part of the command
L1014[13:25:22] <Michiyo> umm, IDK :D
L1015[13:25:23] <Kodos> The reason?
L1016[13:25:28] <Kodos> I don't need no feckin reason
L1017[13:25:29] <Kodos> =D
L1018[13:25:33] <Michiyo> No, the "person"
L1019[13:25:36] <Michiyo> *!*@Michi!~Michi@hekate.pc-logix.com
L1020[13:25:39] <Kodos> Ohh
L1021[13:25:44] <Kodos> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L1022[13:25:50] <Kodos> Anyway
L1023[13:26:04] <Kodos> MGR, MajGenRelativity, mind letting Gav know the ban is lifted
L1024[13:26:22] <Michiyo> he auto joined as soon as you unbanned heh
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L1026[13:26:57] <Kodos> Oh
L1027[13:26:58] <Kodos> depr
L1028[13:27:00] <Gavle> I'm aware
L1029[13:27:00] <Kodos> Derp, even
L1030[13:27:00] <XDjackieXD> Michiyo: now we only need an interface for corded to ban people in discord using irc commands :P
L1031[13:27:13] <Michiyo> effort.
L1032[13:28:38] <Michiyo> ugh github's desktop client being broken over RDP is annoying
L1033[13:28:50] <XDjackieXD> use git commandline tool.
L1034[13:29:01] <Michiyo> No
L1035[13:29:04] <Kodos> If you don't know how, Codecademy has a nice 2 hour course on it
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L1037[13:29:35] <Michiyo> I know how, I just fucking suck at it cause I get shit jumbled up. the joys of having a defective brain.
L1038[13:30:05] <gamax92> Michiyo: It's a good thing sound doesn't travel in space
L1039[13:30:07] <Gavle> I doubt it's defective
L1040[13:30:10] <gamax92> because we could hear the sun
L1041[13:30:13] <gamax92> and the sun would be very loud
L1042[13:30:18] <Michiyo> yes, very.
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L1044[13:31:08] <Michiyo> Gavle, no, sorry, it is.
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L1046[13:31:20] zsh sets mode: +v on MichiBot
L1047[13:31:36] <Gavle> Ok then
L1048[13:31:46] <Gavle> As you wish
L1049[13:31:55] <Gavle> No, that came out wrong
L1050[13:31:58] <Gavle> My apologies
L1051[13:32:32] <Kodos> I think you were going for 'If you say so'
L1052[13:32:53] <Michiyo> DCDC2 gene defect.
L1053[13:32:55] <Gavle> Closer, but not quite
L1054[13:33:40] <Kodos> Yikes, which (if any) diseases that come with that did you end up with :x
L1055[13:33:48] <Michiyo> Dyslexia :P
L1056[13:33:50] <Gavle> Dyslexia
L1057[13:33:55] <Michiyo> but it makes commandline shit very difficult
L1058[13:34:00] <Kodos> Ah
L1059[13:34:29] <AshIndigo> %choose accomplish something or watch portal speedruns
L1060[13:34:30] <MichiBot> AshIndigo: accomplish something
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L1062[13:34:51] <Michiyo> %tban Michi 15s cause <3
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L1064[13:34:58] <XDjackieXD> Michiyo: isn't there a font designed to make it easier to read for people with dyslexia?
L1065[13:35:07] <MichiBot> Timed ban of Michi Expired. Placed by: Michiyo
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L1068[13:35:50] <Kodos> %choose Heroics or Scripting
L1069[13:35:51] <MichiBot> Kodos: Scripting
L1070[13:36:01] <Kodos> %choose Minecraft or Second Life or Other
L1071[13:36:01] <MichiBot> Kodos: Other
L1072[13:36:03] <Kodos> Ffs
L1073[13:36:03] <Michiyo> Yes, there is
L1074[13:36:17] <Michiyo> but eh.. it's horrible at best :P
L1075[13:37:06] <XDjackieXD> https://opendyslexic.org/try-it/ well it doesn't look as stylish but if it helps...
L1076[13:38:09] <AshIndigo> i wish IRCCLouds color coding was slightly more varied
L1077[13:38:26] * Michiyo varies AshIndigo's coloring
L1078[13:39:21] *** AshIndigo is now known as AshEbony
L1079[13:39:26] <AshEbony> tada
L1080[13:39:34] *** AshEbony is now known as AshIndigo
L1081[13:40:20] <LuMistry> Variety is the spice of life
L1082[13:40:26] <Michiyo> lol
L1083[13:41:59] <payonel> S3: the thread lib depends on /lib/process.lua, /boot/01_process.lua, /lib/event.lua, /lib/pipes.lua, /lib/thread.lua
L1084[13:42:37] <payonel> i'm now working cleaning up /lib/pipes now that /bin/sh.lua and /lib/thread.lua depend on it
L1085[13:42:56] <payonel> it's about time to make /lib/pipe more reliable
L1086[13:42:59] <MajGenRelativity> I thought the Internet wasn't a series of tubes?
L1087[13:43:09] <payonel> oh it is
L1088[13:43:12] <payonel> full of books
L1089[13:43:37] <Michiyo> '@(https?://([-\w\.]+[-\w])+(:\d+)?(/([\w/_\.#-]*(\?\S+)?[^\.\s])?)?)@' ._.
L1090[13:43:38] <payonel> s/pipes/pipe/g
L1091[13:43:38] <MichiBot> <payonel> i'm now working cleaning up /lib/pipe now that /bin/sh.lua and /lib/thread.lua depend on it
L1092[13:44:57] <Michiyo> Oh
L1093[13:45:03] <Michiyo> hey.. my change worked.
L1094[13:45:55] <MajGenRelativity> payonel, did you get my other messages? :P
L1095[13:46:04] <payonel> yes
L1096[13:46:12] <MajGenRelativity> :)
L1097[13:46:30] * Michiyo randomly deletes tells
L1098[13:46:49] <MajGenRelativity> Yay
L1099[13:47:09] <payonel> %tell MichiBot DELETE FROM TELLS
L1100[13:47:09] <MichiBot> payonel: MichiBot will be notified of this message when next seen.
L1101[13:47:10] <Gavle> Michiyo, which tells got removed and why?
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L1103[13:47:24] <Michiyo> None... none got removed.
L1104[13:47:30] <Gavle> Oh
L1105[13:47:30] <Michiyo> it as a joke.
L1106[13:47:32] <Michiyo> :P
L1107[13:47:36] <Gavle> Oh.
L1108[13:47:38] <payonel> it as good joke
L1109[13:48:01] <Michiyo> There isn't even a command to remove a tell, I'd have to stop MichiBot open the DB and delete the row
L1110[13:48:42] <Gavle> I didn't know that
L1111[13:50:20] <gamax92> well now you know
L1112[13:51:03] <Gavle> Correct
L1113[13:51:20] <Michiyo> And knowing is half the battle!
L1114[13:51:22] <Michiyo> GO JOE!
L1115[13:51:25] <gamax92> fail
L1116[13:51:32] <Gavle> My name is not Joe
L1117[13:51:39] <Gavle> But you are right
L1118[13:51:42] <Vexatos> Your name is John Smith
L1119[13:51:49] <Gavle> It is not
L1120[13:51:53] <Vexatos> It is.
L1121[13:51:55] <gamax92> It is decidedly so
L1122[13:52:08] <payonel> MajGenRelativity: the thing is, about the networking work, computer connections are already unique -- the modem guids. and you know that from the connection. any extra mapping is just a name to a modem guid
L1123[13:52:24] <Gavle> It is not.
L1124[13:52:30] <payonel> also, i would have built the system to be resistant to node loss, completely, from the beginning
L1125[13:52:31] <gamax92> As I see it, yes
L1126[13:52:43] <gamax92> Without a doubt
L1127[13:52:48] <MajGenRelativity> payonel, I'm aware of what you said
L1128[13:53:15] <MajGenRelativity> Also, the system is mostly immune to node loss right now, and I will make it completely so later
L1129[13:53:22] <payonel> but that is backwards
L1130[13:53:32] <payonel> it should have been designed for discovery from the beginning
L1131[13:53:38] <MajGenRelativity> It was
L1132[13:53:49] <MajGenRelativity> The system has ever been finished, and still isn't
L1133[13:53:54] <Vexatos> payonel, don't tell me you dared look at the code D:
L1134[13:54:04] <payonel> and the addressing you add on top of modem guids should have been simple short name for convenience only. name conflict resolution can rely on modem guids beyond that
L1135[13:54:05] <MajGenRelativity> Also, this is why I PM'd you
L1136[13:54:11] <gamax92> magic 8ball is super biased
L1137[13:54:15] <payonel> Vexatos: the first 20 lines
L1138[13:54:24] <gamax92> payonel: are you okay? D:
L1139[13:54:26] <Vexatos> payonel, GERT in a nutshell though
L1140[13:54:38] <payonel> MajGenRelativity: well it's not really something i'm interesting in discussing in private
L1141[13:54:45] <payonel> i'm interested*
L1142[13:54:51] <Vexatos> The next 20 lines are of similar quality, and so one :⁾
L1143[13:54:59] <Vexatos> ...I can English
L1144[13:55:02] <Vexatos> I gud English
L1145[13:55:13] <payonel> Vexatos: you can english better than i can, sadly (sad on my part)
L1146[13:55:13] <Count Orlok> quickly a question
L1147[13:55:18] <MajGenRelativity> Yes, but I did it to reduce the interference of others
L1148[13:55:21] <Vexatos> Qucik!
L1149[13:55:24] <Vexatos> Quick?
L1150[13:55:28] <Vexatos> Qucik!
L1151[13:55:32] <Count Orlok> yeah hopefully
L1152[13:55:36] <Vexatos> Or slow?
L1153[13:55:42] <Count Orlok> the tier 2 redstone card
L1154[13:55:45] <Count Orlok> fast
L1155[13:55:48] <Count Orlok> speedy
L1156[13:55:53] <gamax92> NO WAY? NO WAY! NO WAY! NO WAY!
L1157[13:55:56] <Vexatos> MajGenRelativity, there's both constructive and destructive interference :⁾
L1158[13:56:11] <MajGenRelativity> Vexatos, yours has been nearly entirely destructive
L1159[13:56:18] <Vexatos> and gladly so
L1160[13:56:18] <Count Orlok> when i switch the frequency, does the wireless output that i had reset to 0?
L1161[13:56:20] <MajGenRelativity> But I'm not interested in discussing this
L1162[13:56:27] <Vexatos> That is actually a good question
L1163[13:56:29] <Vexatos> I don't know
L1164[13:56:34] <Vexatos> My suggestion is that you test it
L1165[13:56:40] <Vexatos> I would assume it will
L1166[13:56:44] <Vexatos> But you never know
L1167[13:56:51] <Count Orlok> it seem's to be like that because my microcontroller bios is having issues
L1168[13:56:59] <Vexatos> It would make sense
L1169[13:57:05] <Count Orlok> with a very similar program that used redstone i/o blocks
L1170[13:58:11] <payonel> MajGenRelativity: for example, for short simple addresses, you could use just the prefix of a modem guid. like the first 4 or 6 chars
L1171[13:58:21] <payonel> that makes it rather safe
L1172[13:58:33] <MajGenRelativity> argh payonel, why?
L1173[13:59:26] <payonel> because it is already unique. trying to build a unique mapping on top of that is unnecessary
L1174[13:59:29] <Vexatos> What is this?
L1175[13:59:41] <payonel> Vexatos: addressing network clients
L1176[13:59:41] <Vexatos> Is payonel, perhaps, criticising the very same thing I was criticizing months ago?
L1177[13:59:45] <MajGenRelativity> The why was in reference to not PM
L1178[13:59:47] <Vexatos> I wonder what that could mean
L1179[14:00:18] <MajGenRelativity> A unique mapping on top is already necessary because of GERTe
L1180[14:00:26] <payonel> >.<
L1181[14:00:36] <payonel> i have to run
L1182[14:00:37] * payonel is afk
L1183[14:00:41] <Vexatos> yea I'd run too
L1184[14:01:04] <AshIndigo> o.o
L1185[14:01:35] <AshIndigo> My irc client just showed #raspberrypi as #oc
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L1189[14:12:02] <AshIndigo> %flip Michiyo
L1190[14:12:03] <MichiBot> AshIndigo: (╯°□°）╯oʎıɥɔıW
L1191[14:13:24] <Count Orlok> does anyone understand the term.read arguments?
L1192[14:13:31] <Count Orlok> i'm trying to set dobreak to false
L1193[14:14:30] <Michiyo> and the issue?
L1194[14:14:49] <Count Orlok> it's still adding the newline
L1195[14:15:02] <Michiyo> what have you tried?
L1196[14:15:08] <Count Orlok> term.read({}, {false}) is the current code
L1197[14:15:43] <Count Orlok> i've tried (false) ({false}) and ({'dobreak': false})
L1198[14:15:52] <Count Orlok> number 3 gave me a error
L1199[14:15:58] <Count Orlok> so did (false)
L1200[14:16:35] <Count Orlok> api link is: http://ocdoc.cil.li/api:term?s[]=read
L1201[14:17:41] <Michiyo> in theory, it should just be term.read({dobreak=false})
L1202[14:17:42] * Michiyo shrugs
L1203[14:18:06] <Count Orlok> nope
L1204[14:18:09] <Count Orlok> although
L1205[14:18:15] <Count Orlok> i think i'm stupid
L1206[14:18:22] <Vexatos> We all are
L1207[14:18:23] <Vexatos> don't worry
L1208[14:18:24] <Michiyo> term.read({nowrap=true}) this works for nowrap so it should work for others.
L1209[14:18:25] <Michiyo> IDK
L1210[14:18:29] <Count Orlok> i was using print() to print the results
L1211[14:18:33] <Vexatos> I spent a week trying to debug someone's drone program
L1212[14:18:35] <Michiyo> I don't actually play minecraft :D
L1213[14:18:45] <Vexatos> Only to notice that it didn't contain one of the components it was supposed to have
L1214[14:18:51] <Count Orlok> lol
L1215[14:18:51] <Michiyo> Ouch.
L1216[14:19:04] <Count Orlok> yeah but as far as I know print() adds a newline
L1217[14:19:12] <Vexatos> The program used had it as an _optional_ component so it didn't crash
L1218[14:19:16] <Vexatos> it just didn't work right >_>
L1219[14:19:33] <Count Orlok> why is it an optional component then though
L1220[14:19:40] <Count Orlok> if the code doesn't work right without it
L1221[14:19:44] <Vexatos> it just enabled additional features
L1222[14:19:48] <Vexatos> which said person wanted
L1223[14:19:57] <Michiyo> io.read() should do the same, without the newline by default
L1224[14:19:59] <Michiyo> I think anyway.
L1225[14:20:36] <Count Orlok> yeah it was the print though -.-
L1226[14:20:38] <Michiyo> `Note 2: This will return the entered string with the \n (new line character). If you want only the entered string to be returned, use io.read().`
L1227[14:20:42] <Count Orlok> io.write() works
L1228[14:23:11] <Count Orlok> hmm, using a stream give through io.open(), how would I remove text?
L1229[14:23:15] <Count Orlok> I can only write
L1230[14:23:23] <Count Orlok> Overwrite everything?
L1231[14:23:37] <Count Orlok> Does that even work?
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L1233[14:25:41] <Count Orlok> press f to pay respects
L1234[14:26:16] <Count Orlok> it autodeletes those messages :/
L1235[14:26:23] <Count Orlok> now my message has no context
L1236[14:28:22] <Michiyo> yes, joins, parts, quits, nick changes all get removed after 30 seconds
L1237[14:29:42] <Michiyo> they stick around on IRC though, people got all complainy about those messages spamming up their discord.. lol
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L1240[14:36:04] <Techokami> :)
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L1244[14:38:40] <yakamato> Hello
L1245[14:39:00] <yakamato> <3
L1246[14:39:31] <Michiyo> Hello
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L1248[15:00:30] <yakamato> anyone willing to teach a newbie?
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L1252[15:04:30] <MGR> Sure
L1253[15:04:37] <MGR> What do you need?
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L1255[15:05:39] <Michiyo> @MGR they left, and came back
L1256[15:05:43] <Michiyo> wb yakamato
L1257[15:06:02] <MGR> Yes, I am willing to teach you yakamato
L1258[15:06:13] <MGR> Also, thank you Michiyo
L1259[15:06:23] <Michiyo> "Gee why do we need joins/parts to stick around?" ^ ^ is why.
L1260[15:06:38] <Michiyo> but ooohh noooooooo teh spam hurts uuuuus
L1261[15:06:39] <MGR> I didn't argue for their removal
L1262[15:06:39] <Michiyo> :P
L1263[15:06:41] <yakamato> ohh thank you
L1264[15:06:50] <MGR> I think them staying is good
L1265[15:06:52] <yakamato> my oc crashed
L1266[15:06:58] <MGR> Ok
L1267[15:07:11] <MGR> As in, the OC computer, or the whole MC game?
L1268[15:07:20] <yakamato> OC computer
L1269[15:07:31] <MGR> What was the error?
L1270[15:07:59] <yakamato> it was just me managing to remove a screen
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L1272[15:09:17] <MGR> What?
L1273[15:10:08] <yakamato> was removing walls around my pc and hit the screen in creative xD
L1274[15:10:11] <Michiyo> \o/ my 8 port POE switch came in
L1275[15:10:38] <MGR> Oh ok
L1276[15:10:48] <MGR> Michiyo, cool!
L1277[15:11:05] <Michiyo> I only have one POE device... but still
L1278[15:11:06] <Michiyo> lol
L1279[15:11:12] <MGR> Yakamato, well, if you need anything else, you know where to find me
L1280[15:11:16] <Michiyo> I have POE splitters that can use it
L1281[15:11:36] <Michiyo> though, the splitters are 100 mbit :/ the switch is gbit
L1282[15:13:15] <MGR> Ah
L1283[15:13:50] <payonel> @Count Orlok o/
L1284[15:14:01] <yakamato> ye, i honestly have no clue how to/what to do with OC. playing FTB beyond with a m8 and i wanna focus on OC xD
L1285[15:14:06] <XDjackieXD> well for 100mbit/s you usually just use 2 of the 4 wire pairs but for gbit you need a real injector (and the gbit version is a real standard whereas the 100mbit/s version is not any standard)
L1286[15:14:44] <XDjackieXD> and those are not comaptible
L1287[15:14:59] <yakamato> ^ @corded
L1288[15:16:40] <Michiyo> Corded is a bot,
L1289[15:16:44] <Michiyo> the user is @MGR
L1290[15:16:58] <yakamato> lol
L1291[15:17:08] * Michiyo slaps her enter key
L1292[15:17:17] <Michiyo> bad enter key! bad!
L1293[15:18:13] <MGR> Yakamato, if you're willing to wait 15 minutes, I can show you some cool stuff you can do
L1294[15:18:41] <yakamato> Sure! that would be lovely
L1295[15:18:45] <Inari> Like linking up two computeres to make your compuation ultimately slower
L1296[15:19:12] <MGR> That sounds like a bad idea
L1297[15:19:36] <Inari> That why it was acronymed "huge piece of shit"
L1298[15:19:44] <payonel> hpos?
L1299[15:19:48] <Inari> Yes
L1300[15:19:49] <Michiyo> XDjackieXD, *supposedly* the splitters I have are 802.3af compliant
L1301[15:20:03] <payonel> Inari: http://media2.giphy.com/media/BBNYBoYa5VwtO/giphy-downsized.gif
L1302[15:20:15] <Inari> xD
L1303[15:20:17] <XDjackieXD> ok then they should work with your switch. interesting that they are not gbit though o.O
L1304[15:20:17] <Vexatos> payonel, that's actually its name
L1305[15:20:21] <MGR> Inari, I feel like that creator named it appropriately then
L1306[15:20:25] <Vexatos> What makes it more funny is that that wasnÄt intentional
L1307[15:20:27] <MGR> Good thing that's not me
L1308[15:20:31] <Michiyo> well.. they're old 802.3af :P
L1309[15:21:17] <XDjackieXD> well... nobody really used 802.3af before gbit :P
L1310[15:21:41] <payonel> @status @Count\ Orlok
L1311[15:21:54] <payonel> @status @Count Orlok
L1312[15:21:58] <payonel> @status "@Count Orlok"
L1313[15:22:00] * payonel gives up
L1314[15:22:01] <Vexatos> yakamato, if you want to use some OC, you're free to take inspiration and ideas from MGR, but do not even try to look at his code, it's so bad it would have a negative influence on you
L1315[15:22:07] <MGR> Lol
L1316[15:22:21] <MGR> Double lol
L1317[15:22:25] <DeeJayh> Savage
L1318[15:22:33] <payonel> Vexatos: >_>
L1319[15:22:34] <Kodos> Vexatos, to be fair, yours is very clean, but confusing as heck for a non-advanced user
L1320[15:22:37] <Vexatos> It's a good excercise for learning how to spot bad code
L1321[15:22:46] <Vexatos> Kodos, true.
L1322[15:22:56] <Vexatos> Two programs I wrote aren't
L1323[15:23:02] <Vexatos> because I have comments every three lines or so
L1324[15:23:05] <james2024> <3
L1325[15:23:07] <Vexatos> they were meant to be tutorials though
L1326[15:23:16] <Kodos> https://github.com/MyNameIsKodos/OpenComputers-Programs/blob/master/lib/kodos.lua
L1327[15:23:18] <Michiyo> payonel, .. @"Name with spaces"
L1328[15:23:20] <Kodos> I'd like to think my code is decent
L1329[15:23:26] <Michiyo> @status @"Count Orlok"
L1330[15:23:26] <Discord> Count Orlok is currently ONLINE
L1331[15:23:47] <payonel> ❤ Michiyo
L1332[15:23:48] <Count Orlok> hmm wut?
L1333[15:23:52] <Vexatos> Kodos, now that it's not 2015 anymore and therefore you don't have the most terriblest indentation in this universe anymore, yes
L1334[15:24:25] <payonel> orlok: did you fix your term.read needs? term.read{dobreak=false}) is definitely the correct way
L1335[15:24:32] <payonel> +(
L1336[15:24:38] <yakamato> hahaha i dont know any lua atm, but the problem is that im the learning while i go type of guy....
L1337[15:24:45] <Kodos> One day I'll settle on a MC version and an energy mod and start coding a suite of utilities for it
L1338[15:24:48] <Michiyo> s/{/({/
L1339[15:24:48] <MichiBot> Michiyo: Invalid regex Illegal repetition
L1340[15:24:51] <Michiyo> damn lol
L1341[15:24:56] <Michiyo> s/{/\({/
L1342[15:24:56] <MichiBot> Michiyo: Invalid regex Illegal repetition
L1343[15:24:58] <Count Orlok> i just switched to io.read(), but it turned out that the main problem was that I was using print() -.-
L1344[15:24:59] <Michiyo> nop
L1345[15:25:00] <payonel> s/\{/({/
L1346[15:25:00] <MichiBot> <payonel> orlok: did you fix your term.read needs? term.read({dobreak=false}) is definitely the correct way
L1347[15:25:01] <Vexatos> yakamato, how much effort are you willing to spend on learning Lua?
L1348[15:25:02] * Michiyo shrugs
L1349[15:25:02] <payonel> woo!
L1350[15:25:04] <Vexatos> Serious question
L1351[15:25:18] <payonel> orlok: yeah, print by design add \n
L1352[15:25:27] <payonel> and print(...) puts \t between each arg
L1353[15:25:53] <yakamato> if u are refering to read that enourmous reference manual then that probably wont happen xD
L1354[15:26:02] <Vexatos> payonel, can confirm :⁾ https://aww.moe/dr43iq.png
L1355[15:26:10] <payonel> orlok: io.write also takes ..., but inserts nothing between args
L1356[15:26:21] <Vexatos> yakamato, referring to "read the best programming book I have ever seen"
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L1358[15:26:39] <Vexatos> And you can most likely get it from your local library
L1359[15:26:53] <Vexatos> If not, you can definitely order it there and they will bring it there for you
L1360[15:26:59] <Vexatos> That's also free, at least in my country >_>
L1361[15:27:07] <payonel> free here in my country, too
L1362[15:27:13] <yakamato> ahhh, that kind.
L1363[15:27:25] <Vexatos> But yes, the book "Programming in Lua, fourth edition"
L1364[15:27:30] <yakamato> just know of the manual that has been refered to on the forums
L1365[15:27:33] <Vexatos> By the creator of Lua himself
L1366[15:27:43] <Vexatos> It is ultra-well-written and very newbie-friendly
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L1368[15:27:59] <Vexatos> The "manual" is www.lua.org/manual/5.3/manual.html
L1369[15:28:07] <Vexatos> That is the entire specification of the language on one page
L1370[15:28:07] <yakamato> ye
L1371[15:28:12] <Vexatos> it is not teaching you anything
L1372[15:28:17] <Vexatos> it is just a reference sheet
L1373[15:28:34] <Vexatos> The book I am talking about is an in-depth tutorial
L1374[15:28:42] <Vexatos> well, as in-depth as you are willing to read
L1375[15:28:48] <Vexatos> It starts at the very most basic of things
L1376[15:29:01] <yakamato> ahh thats my bad misinterpenting a forum post i guess...
L1377[15:29:04] <Vexatos> Any toaster could learn Lua from it, it's really really good
L1378[15:29:18] <yakamato> ill look it up
L1379[15:29:27] <Vexatos> make sure to get the fourth edition
L1380[15:29:33] <Vexatos> if you really cannot get your hands on it
L1381[15:29:36] <Vexatos> the third is "good enough"
L1382[15:29:46] <Vexatos> but that one is written for Lua 5.1 so some things won't be the same
L1383[15:29:55] <Vexatos> (OC is on Lua 5.2 and 5.3)
L1384[15:30:12] <payonel> yakamato: and this is a good channel to ask questions too. oc devs lurk in here when further clarification is needed
L1385[15:30:20] <Vexatos> ^ OpenOS dev
L1386[15:30:54] <Vexatos> yakamato, if you want a really old version of the book, for Lua 5.0 which is way over ten years old, you can find it at https://www.lua.org/pil/
L1387[15:31:02] <Vexatos> the first few chapters should still apply
L1388[15:31:55] <Vexatos> well, https://www.lua.org/pil/contents.html
L1389[15:33:00] <yakamato> hows the irc chat command incorperation in the OC computers?
L1390[15:33:09] <Vexatos> This is about the best advice I can give you. I have yet to find anything that comes even close to that book in terms of quality
L1391[15:33:17] <payonel> yakamato: AND oc tutorials https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1ymaicpU9w&list=PLcZKee5-koAC2-pKrE6NOycvfX-KMm013&index=28
L1392[15:33:18] <MichiBot> OpenComputers v1.4: New features in version 1.4 - Part 1 (English) | length: 20m 58s | Likes: 74 Dislikes: 1 Views: 8,232 | by Mighty Pirates | Published On 31/3/2015
L1393[15:33:18] <MajGenRelativity> If you want to PM someone, I believe it's /query (name)
L1394[15:33:23] <Vexatos> Once you know some Lua, you can actually get to the OC-specificy
L1395[15:33:26] <Vexatos> specifics*
L1396[15:33:27] <payonel> those are old, for 1.4 (We're on 1.6) but they're good tuts
L1397[15:33:27] <MajGenRelativity> Like, /query MajGenRelativity
L1398[15:34:16] <Vexatos> But yes, for anything related to Lua or OpenOS, or components, this is the right place to ask
L1399[15:34:28] <yakamato> i can
L1400[15:34:46] <yakamato> nope
L1401[15:34:47] <Vexatos> Just maybe make sure your questions are not answered by Ctrl+F'ing the manual :P
L1402[15:34:47] <yakamato> xD
L1403[15:34:52] <Vexatos> e.g. "what does print() do"
L1404[15:35:01] <payonel> %lua print()
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L1406[15:35:15] <OCGR> Testing testy test
L1407[15:35:26] <Vexatos> Hmm who could that be
L1408[15:35:33] <AshIndigo> %lua print("Hello World!")
L1409[15:35:33] <OCGR> Ok, so query doesn't work
L1410[15:35:33] <MichiBot> Hello World!
L1411[15:35:39] <yakamato> ahh ok, thank you for the advice, and im gonna see if i can get a hold of that book
L1412[15:35:54] <AshIndigo> ./msg MajGenRelativity
L1413[15:35:57] <AshIndigo> Isn't that the command?
L1414[15:36:03] <OCGR> Nope
L1415[15:36:08] <Vexatos> Lua is a language made for newbies, so it should be easy to grasp even without any programming experience at all
L1416[15:36:13] <Vexatos> I don't know how much you have >_>
L1417[15:36:18] <OCGR> Oh wait, it is
L1418[15:36:40] <AshIndigo> \o/
L1419[15:36:47] <Michiyo> /query totally works on hexchat, some clients implement it differently
L1420[15:36:51] <Vexatos> Knowing Lua a fair bit goes a long way towards writing good programs in OC
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L1422[15:36:57] <Vexatos> *cough MGR cough*
L1423[15:44:25] <Inari> Haha
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L1425[15:53:53] <payonel> %logs
L1426[15:53:54] <MichiBot> https://oclogs.pc-logix.com/
L1427[15:54:48] <payonel> oh sad!
L1428[15:55:29] <payonel> i was disconnected when i made my comments
L1429[15:55:35] <Michiyo> gg
L1430[15:55:59] <payonel> http://imgur.com/a/ndAjJ
L1431[15:56:13] <Inari> I dunno
L1432[15:56:27] <Inari> the array indexing should be fairly easy to grasp by someone with no prior programming knowledge :P
L1433[15:56:31] <Inari> Usually it woudl be harder if you do have
L1434[15:58:37] <Michiyo> yes, getting used to 1 indexing was a huge pain cause everything else I've used is 0..
L1435[15:58:50] <Michiyo> someone with no prior experience wouldn't have that issue
L1436[15:59:10] <payonel> i wasn't trying to start this up again :)
L1437[15:59:19] <payonel> just trying to annoy vex
L1438[16:00:02] <Michiyo> Well that's something I can get behind.
L1439[16:00:02] <Michiyo> :P
L1440[16:01:41] * Vexatos throws common sense at payonel
L1441[16:04:03] <Kodos> I have the opposite issue
L1442[16:04:17] <Kodos> Lua was the first language I learned to code in, so whenever I used LSL (Second Life), I ran into the issue of zero index
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L1444[16:08:14] <Inari> LSL *shudders*
L1445[16:08:43] <Inari> payonel: Trying to vex vex?
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L1447[16:13:36] <Dudblockman> tfw you forgot waypoints support redstone
L1448[16:16:03] <payonel> dudblockman?
L1449[16:16:13] <payonel> what waypoints?
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L1451[16:16:26] <Vexatos> the only waypoints OC has? >_>
L1452[16:16:35] <payonel> ...
L1453[16:16:46] <payonel> for robots and navigation?
L1454[16:16:54] <payonel> maybe i should use oc more
L1455[16:17:01] <Dudblockman> tfw payonel forgets OC supports waypoints
L1456[16:17:07] <payonel> i didn't forget :)
L1457[16:17:10] <payonel> didn't even know
L1458[16:17:32] <Dudblockman> I had been scratching my head over setting up some drone based logistics
L1459[16:17:49] <Vexatos> You haven't seen this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFfM7kB9vEU
L1460[16:17:50] <MichiBot> OpenComputers: Waypoints Preview | length: 6m 38s | Likes: 54 Dislikes: 1 Views: 3,429 | by Mighty Pirates | Published On 26/4/2015
L1461[16:18:03] <Vexatos> Yes, they are over two years old.
L1462[16:18:06] <payonel> Vexatos: wathing it now
L1463[16:18:08] <payonel> watching*
L1464[16:18:14] <payonel> haha, wathing
L1465[16:18:15] <Dudblockman> Thats what I went and watched and facepalmed
L1466[16:19:15] <payonel> oh yeah, i've seen this video
L1467[16:19:43] <payonel> i was thinking of different waypoints, like journeymap waypoints
L1468[16:21:08] <Vexatos> who even plays with journeymap >_>
L1469[16:21:15] <payonel> seriously?
L1470[16:21:16] <Vexatos> No overpowered mods on my lawn! D:
L1471[16:21:38] <payonel> i don't like mc without a minimap
L1472[16:21:46] <Vexatos> That's why you use Antique Atlas
L1473[16:22:06] <Vexatos> The only minimap mod that's not gamebreaking :I
L1474[16:22:35] <Dudblockman> Why not add the "ubisoft open world tower" mod
L1475[16:23:07] <Dudblockman> Climb to the top and it maps the area, and then puts a quest marker on every ore, dungeon, and interesting block in the area
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L1479[16:41:59] <Izaya> %oclogs
L1480[16:41:59] <MichiBot> https://oclogs.pc-logix.com/
L1481[16:42:09] <Izaya> O Clogs
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L1486[16:50:54] <payonel> %weather munich
L1487[16:50:56] <MichiBot> No data returned
L1488[16:52:04] <payonel> %weatch 48.137154, 11.576124
L1489[16:52:09] <payonel> %weather 48.137154, 11.576124
L1490[16:52:10] <MichiBot> No data returned
L1491[16:52:16] <payonel> Michiyo: world coords?
L1492[17:02:57] <Michiyo> no?
L1493[17:03:09] <Michiyo> ffs I'm lagging ._.
L1494[17:03:55] <Michiyo> %weather munich, germany
L1495[17:03:55] <MichiBot> Current weather for Munich, Germany Current Temp: 55°F/13°C Feels Like: 55°F/13°C Current Humidity: 82% Wind: From the North 0 Mph/0 Km/h Conditions: Clear
L1496[17:07:21] <Michiyo> payonel, ^
L1497[17:07:44] <Michiyo> some postal codes work too
L1498[17:09:35] <payonel> cool
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L1502[17:55:40] <Dudblockman> Hmm...
L1503[17:56:33] <Dudblockman> Scala is to java as... moonscript/seline is to lua?
L1504[17:56:43] <payonel> woah
L1505[17:56:47] <payonel> ...
L1506[17:57:31] <payonel> i wouldn't make that comparison
L1507[17:58:38] <Dudblockman> Yeah Idk trying to rationalize it
L1508[17:59:15] <Dudblockman> Scala seems to be more of a separate entity
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L1510[18:00:58] <Dudblockman> Am total nub with java
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L1512[18:06:08] <Dudblockman> Been 'dipping my toes in' recently
L1513[18:07:14] <gamax92> Scala is a very different language than Java
L1514[18:07:52] <Dudblockman> After looking... yep
L1515[18:33:37] <Dudblockman> Random train of my thoughts
L1516[18:33:40] <Dudblockman> Tbh I think of scripting and programming as two separate subsets of coding
L1517[18:33:56] <Dudblockman> Programming is creating structures and a program is the code used to do so
L1518[18:34:10] <Dudblockman> Scripting is utilizing structures to achieve an end result, and a script is the code
L1519[18:34:43] <Dudblockman> But programming/program can also be used as a blanket term in place of code
L1520[18:36:38] <CompanionCube> programming == scripting
L1521[18:38:04] <Dudblockman> It's just kinda what definitions kinda evolved in my head over the years
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L1524[18:39:24] <Dudblockman> Just a tangent my mind went on
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L1526[19:00:16] <gamax92> it's hot.
L1527[19:00:21] <gamax92> melting.
L1528[19:06:19] <AmandaC> %choose watch or play or SHUTDOWN THE SIMULATION, ABORT ABORT!
L1529[19:06:20] <MichiBot> AmandaC: SHUTDOWN THE SIMULATION, ABORT ABORT!
L1530[19:08:20] * AmandaC smashes a red button, disappears in a blinding flash of light
L1531[19:10:45] <Dudblockman> >Starts imagining writing a drone friendly programming language for computers to send operations to drones via a string
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L1533[19:12:35] <Dudblockman> How high level can you go? Writing a language in a language in a language in a language
L1534[19:15:33] <gamax92> what if you had a vacuum cleaner so large that the universe would look like a marble in comparison
L1535[19:17:58] <Dudblockman> That would suck
L1536[19:25:06] <gamax92> haaaaa
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L1542[20:14:13] <BoxFox> gamax92: I was goofing around with your emu today. is there any way to get multiple devices on your emu to send messages over modem to each other?
L1543[20:14:45] <Kodos> @Dudblockman is that a real mod
L1544[20:14:57] <Dudblockman> ?
L1545[20:15:00] <Kodos> Nvm
L1546[20:15:04] <Kodos> Too tired
L1547[20:15:14] <Kodos> o/
L1548[20:18:14] <Dudblockman> I was imagining a program made to interpret a string
L1549[20:19:46] <Dudblockman> Which essentially means a scripting language in a scripting language in java in... assembly? Whatever Java goes off of
L1550[20:54:15] <Mimiru> god damn it, why is this cert not renewing
L1551[20:55:44] <Mimiru> https://files.vexatos.com/ Is this cert valid for anyone?
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L1553[20:56:53] <Dennis> Hey
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L1555[20:57:15] <Dennis> Hey
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L1562[22:05:33] <Pwootage> How fast can a transposer move items around?
L1563[22:06:30] <Pwootage> I mean, I can try, but I don't really want to spend an hour writing software that's not high enough throughput :p
L1564[22:08:00] <Syrren> Mimiru: files.vexatos.com - valid letsencrypt cert
L1565[22:11:06] <Pwootage> Cert seems to be valid to me
L1566[22:11:18] <Mimiru> ssltools, and my browser lie then
L1567[22:11:21] <Mimiru> thanks
L1568[22:17:17] <Mimiru> holy shit 24hour downtime on FFXIV for this expansion patch
L1569[22:20:49] <S3> You know theres nothing quite like an hour long drive through the woods at 10+11pm just to get to civilization
L1570[22:21:28] <S3> 10-11pm*
L1571[22:22:40] <S3> Some places in the world have this thing called public transportation
L1572[22:22:46] <S3> I wonder what that's like
L1573[23:02:47] <payonel> boxfox: yes (modem_message with ocemu)
L1574[23:03:27] <payonel> in fact, i wrote the modem driver for ocemu. when you start ocemu you can pass an optional argument that is the path to the directory where ocemu will store the vm files, so just start two ocemu's instances up with different paths
L1575[23:03:37] <payonel> by default, you'll have a modem component
L1576[23:03:43] <payonel> @status @boxfox
L1577[23:03:43] <Discord> BoxFox is currently IDLE
L1578[23:10:09] <BoxFox> Who ping the great and mighty box
L1579[23:10:21] <BoxFox> Those words are relative
L1580[23:10:35] <BoxFox> Actually not even relative. Subjective
L1581[23:10:41] <BoxFox> What is up p?
L1582[23:12:28] <BoxFox> Oh? Just hang on what?
L1583[23:13:18] <BoxFox> Just put the TV in files in the same folder?
L1584[23:13:24] <BoxFox> Through CLI
L1585[23:13:57] <ping> @BoxFox pong
L1586[23:14:21] <BoxFox> lol, sorry.
L1587[23:14:24] <BoxFox> hi ping
L1588[23:15:02] <BoxFox> Payonel: okay, I think I understand. Time wil tell, lol
L1589[23:15:23] <payonel> o/
L1590[23:15:36] <payonel> put the "TV" i nfiles?
L1591[23:15:39] <payonel> huh?
L1592[23:15:59] <payonel> `./ocemu machine_a` and `./ocemu machine_b`
L1593[23:16:06] <payonel> though i know it isn't literally `./ocemu`
L1594[23:16:28] <payonel> i always run ocemu from scripts, so i forget how it runs normally
L1595[23:17:04] <payonel> boxfox: "payo" alerts me, btw
L1596[23:17:07] <payonel> i think...
L1597[23:17:08] <payonel> payo
L1598[23:17:12] <payonel> hmm, i'll fix that
L1599[23:17:22] <Mimiru> payo
L1600[23:17:25] <payonel> oh it is set to alert me
L1601[23:17:28] <payonel> just not from myself
L1602[23:17:30] <Mimiru> (you can't ping yourself)
L1603[23:17:31] <payonel> thanks Mimiru :)
L1604[23:17:35] <payonel> Mimiru: sad
L1605[23:17:51] <Dudblockman> Ughhhh I meant to check if I could figure out how ingame.
L1606[23:17:58] <Mimiru> Alas, bed time.
L1607[23:18:31] <payonel> 'night
L1608[23:19:26] <Dudblockman> How would I spit out all available functions in the drone API
L1609[23:20:05] <Dudblockman> I just am not sure what carries over from robots and what doesn't
L1610[23:21:02] <payonel> for k in pairs(t) do io.write(t, ' ') end
L1611[23:21:11] <payonel> derp
L1612[23:21:15] <payonel> for k in pairs(t) do io.write(k, ' ') end
L1613[23:21:33] <Dudblockman> On drone?
L1614[23:21:42] <payonel> %lua drone={foo=function()end, bar=function()end} for k in pairs(drone) do io.write(k, ' ') end
L1615[23:21:42] <BoxFox> payo, I was using Speech to text again.. that's why I had to call ya P
L1616[23:21:43] <MichiBot> main:1: attempt to call field 'write' (a nil value)
L1617[23:21:43] <BoxFox> sorry
L1618[23:21:59] <payonel> no worries
L1619[23:22:06] <payonel> dud -- on any table
L1620[23:22:11] <payonel> also
L1621[23:22:13] <payonel> ~w drone
L1622[23:22:13] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:drone
L1623[23:22:17] <payonel> ~w api:drone
L1624[23:22:17] <ocdoc> Predicted http://ocd.cil.li/item:drone
L1625[23:22:22] <payonel> >.<
L1626[23:22:24] <Dudblockman> Yeah...
L1627[23:22:36] <payonel> first one
L1628[23:22:38] <Dudblockman> It just gives the drone specifics
L1629[23:22:39] <payonel> the component:drone
L1630[23:22:43] <payonel> ~w drone
L1631[23:22:44] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:drone
L1632[23:22:45] <BoxFox> @Dudblockman I may not be the most experience, but may I ask what you're trying to do?
L1633[23:22:59] <Dudblockman> And says "some things carry over from robots"
L1634[23:23:18] <Dudblockman> I was just curious about what tools a drone has at its disposal
L1635[23:23:47] <payonel> one of these days i'll be all done with openos and i'll update wiki pages :)
L1636[23:23:56] <payonel> but it'd be so great if everyone did that
L1637[23:24:24] <Dudblockman> Trick question: OpenOS will never be completed
L1638[23:24:42] <BoxFox> or a community member can assist him
L1639[23:24:45] <BoxFox> ~~not me~~
L1640[23:24:47] <payonel> yeah :) that was the joke :P
L1641[23:25:02] <payonel> i'll never be done
L1642[23:25:32] <Dudblockman> I just spend boredom time reading code in a language I half understand
L1643[23:25:44] <payonel> lua?
L1644[23:25:53] <BoxFox> machine code?
L1645[23:26:02] <payonel> german?
L1646[23:26:14] <BoxFox> ~~english~~
L1647[23:26:15] <Dudblockman> I understand 'java' and 'scala', just never can make sense of the web of classes
L1648[23:26:44] <Dudblockman> I can read and comprehend, can sorta write
L1649[23:26:55] <payonel> i dont try java. dislike it too much
L1650[23:27:10] <payonel> for many good reasons, and for many biased reasons
L1651[23:27:30] <Dudblockman> But jeez navigating the complex web of requires and inheritances takes my head for a loop
L1652[23:28:13] <Dudblockman> And it's *not even that bad*
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L1654[23:28:33] <BoxFox> payonel doesn't like java because he is secretly bad-ass enough that he wrote his own language and named it avaj.
L1655[23:29:03] <payonel> haha, no :)
L1656[23:29:30] <Dudblockman> Avaj? Never heard of it. Gonna Elgoog it.
L1657[23:29:43] <BoxFox> don't google that...
L1658[23:29:48] <payonel> ha
L1659[23:29:48] <BoxFox> I didn't think before I typed
L1660[23:29:52] <BoxFox> please... don't google it
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L1663[23:31:19] <Dudblockman> ***Google intensifies***
L1664[23:31:31] <BoxFox> your work comp, not mine. :P
L1665[23:32:28] <Dudblockman> Work? What's that? I'm a Engineering student taking cram Calc over the summer
L1666[23:33:25] <BoxFox> soft or hard?
L1667[23:33:47] <BoxFox> or neither?
L1668[23:33:50] <Dudblockman> ?
L1669[23:33:53] <Dudblockman> Oh
L1670[23:33:56] <BoxFox> software, hardware or neither?
L1671[23:34:19] <Dudblockman> Both in a way, currently... neither
L1672[23:34:33] <Dudblockman> Going for Mechatronics
L1673[23:34:44] <BoxFox> ah! I had a chance for that, passed it up...
L1674[23:34:53] <Dudblockman> Currently going through general Mechanical
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L1676[23:35:09] <BoxFox> Graduate or under?
L1677[23:35:21] <Dudblockman> Under
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L1679[23:35:50] <Dudblockman> This is the summer of year 1 for me
L1680[23:36:04] <BoxFox> 2.5?
L1681[23:36:18] <Dudblockman> Semester 2.5
L1682[23:36:23] <Dudblockman> I guess
L1683[23:36:41] <Dudblockman> Because summer semester is funny like that
L1684[23:36:48] <BoxFox> no.. like.. years?
L1685[23:36:49] <BoxFox> total
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L1687[23:36:56] <Dudblockman> 1 year in
L1688[23:37:14] <payonel> boxfox: i create a lot of stuff that reinvents the wheel. that's always been my passion. but i've never had creative thoughts about my own language
L1689[23:37:25] <payonel> i'm quite happy with the few that i know and use
L1690[23:38:48] <BoxFox> @Dudblockman 2.5 years until you graduate? start to finish>
L1691[23:38:50] <BoxFox> @Dudblockman 2.5 years until you graduate? start to finish?
L1692[23:39:11] <BoxFox> Payonel, you doo make a lot of stuff. I agree with that for sure
L1693[23:39:32] <Dudblockman> 6 semesters ahead of me if I stick to the 4 year plan
L1694[23:39:57] <Dudblockman> Because I'm only taking summer school to obtain residency
L1695[23:40:59] <BoxFox> good luck :)
L1696[23:41:18] <Dudblockman> Taking a 12 week course that covers Calc 1, 2, and 3
L1697[23:42:08] <Dudblockman> I kinda... flunked Linear Algebra last semester and I feel it was because my Calc skills were not up to par
L1698[23:42:30] <Dudblockman> So I'm taking a cram course as a refresher
L1699[23:43:07] <Dudblockman> High school does NOT teach calculus
L1700[23:43:16] <S3> dudblockman but
L1701[23:43:20] <S3> calc is easy
L1702[23:43:26] <S3> its the algebra that fucking sucks
L1703[23:44:05] <Dudblockman> I forgot how to do u-sub... and I was in ODE/LinAlg
L1704[23:44:18] <Syrren> 12:44 <SAL9000> ptx0: but in lennart poettering we do not trust
L1705[23:44:19] <Syrren> 12:54 <+ptx0> yeah like i'm gonna trust HAL9000's lesser known cousin
L1706[23:44:32] <S3> u sub is simple
L1707[23:44:46] <S3> and many times u sub doesnt work
L1708[23:44:51] <Dudblockman> I forgot more than that
L1709[23:45:27] <Dudblockman> Or more, high school taught integrals as "plug it into your TI-84"
L1710[23:46:00] <Dudblockman> And weakly covered how to actually work it out
L1711[23:46:22] <S3> I have never had any calc class that allowed a calculator
L1712[23:46:28] <S3> for anything
L1713[23:46:56] <Dudblockman> So, 3 years down the line get a harsh awakening when they ask you to calculate everything by hand.
L1714[23:47:15] <S3> it's so easy though
L1715[23:47:21] <S3> most everything you can just look it up
L1716[23:47:26] <S3> if you're not doing so well, you google it
L1717[23:47:30] <S3> and study t
L1718[23:47:33] <S3> it*
L1719[23:48:02] <Dudblockman> It is. Moral of the story is I found a loophole in the credit system
L1720[23:48:09] <S3> I mean, I'm not calling anybody dumb, but if you don't do outside study of the material if you don't quite understand it then that's kind of beating the point of taking a class
L1721[23:48:52] <S3> quantsini: 8'
L1722[23:49:02] <Dudblockman> I tried hard and ultimately failed the final exam, which took my passable B into the D range
L1723[23:49:07] <S3> crazy cat
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L1725[23:49:55] <S3> well in college that's called not tried hard enough :P
L1726[23:50:00] <S3> how long you been in college?
L1727[23:50:10] <Dudblockman> 2 semesters
L1728[23:50:28] <S3> ok
L1729[23:50:30] <Dudblockman> That was during my 2nd semester
L1730[23:50:44] <S3> I've been in college since 200
L1731[23:50:46] <S3> 2009*
L1732[23:50:57] <Dudblockman> I lived in office hours
L1733[23:51:14] <S3> and I can tell you, trying hard is a relative word, a very, very relative word
L1734[23:51:28] <Dudblockman> Essentially my prof recommended I take a Calc refresher
L1735[23:51:59] <S3> or, you can use some self discipline and kahn academy like crazy
L1736[23:52:04] <S3> binge watch all of that stuff
L1737[23:52:06] <Dudblockman> I figured I wasn't sure where my gaps were and was afraid of missing anything
L1738[23:52:18] <Dudblockman> Did khan too
L1739[23:53:07] <S3> you know they say that for every credit you should be studyijng 3 hours a week
L1740[23:53:16] <S3> calculus in many places is a 4 credit class
L1741[23:53:22] <Dudblockman> Yep
L1742[23:53:27] <S3> so that's a minimum of 12 hours a week
L1743[23:53:33] <S3> I dunno, I can't do addition
L1744[23:53:46] <Dudblockman> This Calc class right now is 4-8 hours...
L1745[23:53:50] <Dudblockman> A night
L1746[23:53:52] <S3> I was that guy who got an A in calculus yelling, what's 4 + 3 again!?"
L1747[23:53:53] <S3> lol..
L1748[23:54:28] <S3> my problem, was that I was starting to see calculus as a machine
L1749[23:54:48] <S3> I could look at a problem in say calc 2and tell you the answer before doing it out
L1750[23:54:55] <S3> and that was problematic
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L1752[23:55:27] <Dudblockman> Luckily since I'm taking this as a refresher course it means i can cut down or forgo studying concepts I know
L1753[23:55:48] <S3> getting graded for it?
L1754[23:55:52] <Dudblockman> Yep
L1755[23:56:04] <S3> I cannot retate calc 1, it would only hirt my GPA
L1756[23:56:09] <S3> I got like a 96 in calc 1
L1757[23:56:14] <Dudblockman> It's a slight loophole since I never took Calc in college
L1758[23:56:16] <S3> then calc2 was a bitch
L1759[23:56:26] <S3> hurt*
L1760[23:56:34] <Dudblockman> So they are all new as far as the uni is concerned
L1761[23:56:52] <S3> I can't say as college calculus is similar to college calculus
L1762[23:57:03] <S3> high school calculus*
L1763[23:57:10] <S3> I can say that high school physics is useless.
L1764[23:57:18] <Dudblockman> So 3 ez math classes that add to my GPA
L1765[23:57:28] <S3> I remember my first year as an engineering student
L1766[23:57:34] <Dudblockman> Free GPA all condensed into a summer
L1767[23:57:39] <S3> BAM straight into calculus based physics
L1768[23:58:08] <S3> I prefer the 5 week math classes
L1769[23:58:15] <S3> I can't do semester long math classes
L1770[23:58:18] <S3> too slow
L1771[23:58:27] <S3> 5 week calculus is easy and perfect timing
L1772[23:58:44] <Dudblockman> I'm taking 3 4-week classes back-to-baack
L1773[23:59:01] <S3> seems a little dumb to me
L1774[23:59:15] <S3> I am taking no summer courses
L1775[23:59:21] <Dudblockman> It works for me
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