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<Dudblockman> Not the brightest out of the
bunch
<Dudblockman> Not the brightest out of the
bunchL6[01:02:11] <Dudblockman> Note: Durability and tinkers
tools don't mix
<Dudblockman> Note: Durability and tinkers
tools don't mixL7[01:02:49] <Dudblockman> The robot can't seem to read
since its abnormal... and given vanilla tools have 1 use before
breaking...
<Dudblockman> The robot can't seem to read
since its abnormal... and given vanilla tools have 1 use before
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L17[02:20:24] <Dudblockman> I just realized something.
Thank god I'm using OC rather than CC on this server
<Dudblockman> I just realized something.
Thank god I'm using OC rather than CC on this serverL18[02:20:35] <Dudblockman> Server reboots every 4
hours.
<Dudblockman> Server reboots every 4
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L20[02:34:29] <Forecaster> every four
hours?!
L21[02:34:30] <Forecaster> wow
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L25[03:01:40] <Izaya> mem leaks?
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gamax92 Kilobyte
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L58[04:25:43] <Izaya> Hm, can anyone
recommend tools for adding drivers and such to Windows install
images?
L59[04:43:37] <Syrren> Izaya: which windows
version? I recall a set of tools for adding NVMe drivers to W7
installers
L60[04:43:56] <Izaya> 7, of course
L61[04:44:56] <Syrren> Izaya: a quick
Google comes up with http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/guide-installing-windows-7-on-an-nvme-ssd-from-a-usb-3-0-thumbdrive.783921/
http://www.beezmo.com/geezblog/?p=1060
L62[04:47:23] <Izaya> Hm, guess I'll just
need to change these a bit to make it work on a DVD but this looks
excellent.
L63[04:48:02] <Izaya> Thanks
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L70[05:59:58] <Syrren> np :)
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L73[06:06:06] <White Fyre>
good morning people ;D
<White Fyre>
good morning people ;DL74[06:06:58] ⇨
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L75[06:07:50] <White Fyre>
anyone want to start a project
<White Fyre>
anyone want to start a projectL76[06:15:48] ⇦
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L77[06:17:14] <Syrren> @White Fire: It's
kinda hard to answer that question without at least an abstract of
said project, no?
L78[06:24:01] <Forecaster> you have to
quote names with spaces in them
L79[06:26:38] <Forecaster> also you
probably need to spell the name right :P
L80[06:26:58] <Forecaster> @"White
Fyre"
L81[06:33:38] <Forecaster> woop, now I can
auto-complete after a quote
L82[06:35:35] <White Fyre>
back
<White Fyre>
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L84[06:46:34] <Lizzy> forward
L85[06:47:22] <Syrren> Forecaster: does
Corded have an API which could be used to list Discord-side
nicks?
L86[06:47:50] <Forecaster> API`?
L87[06:47:55] <Forecaster> it's a bot
L88[06:47:58] <Forecaster> an irc bot
L89[06:48:04] <Forecaster> how would you
use an api
L90[06:48:13] <Syrren> REST, perhaps?
L91[06:48:24] <Syrren> an irc bot doesn't
have to be only connected to irc
L92[06:48:47] <Forecaster> I sincerely
doubt it has a rest api...
L93[06:48:48] <Syrren> tl;dr: I thought
about writing a weechat extension for tab-completing Discord
nicks
L94[06:49:00] <Forecaster> discord has an
api
L95[06:49:52] <Syrren> that'd work
too
L96[06:57:57] <Forecaster> I have a script
for my client that parses relay messages to proper irc
messages
L97[06:58:14] <Forecaster> which as a
side-effect also make the names tab-completeable
L98[07:03:31] <Syrren> Forecaster: wouldn't
that also have to simulate the users joining, so they end up in the
nicklist?
L99[07:03:47] <Forecaster> I don't have a
nicklist
L100[07:04:08] <Forecaster> if I want to
see who's in a channel I go /names
L101[07:04:26] <Syrren> doesn't irssi keep
track of the users in the channel to provide tab complete?
L102[07:04:42] <Forecaster> I don't
know
L103[07:04:50] <Forecaster> I know you can
have layouts with a nicklist
L104[07:04:58] <Forecaster> so it probably
does internally
L105[07:05:31] <Syrren> hm...
L106[07:10:07] <Forecaster> I presume the
complete also looks through the message buffer
L107[07:10:27] <Forecaster> since if a
name falls off it I can't tab complete it anymore I don't
think
L108[07:10:32] <Syrren>
test
<Syrren>
testL109[07:10:36] <Syrren> YES
L110[07:10:39] <Forecaster> if it's a
discord name
L111[07:10:56] <Syrren> there's a suitable
weechat script
L112[07:11:06] <Forecaster> for
what?
L113[07:11:21] <Syrren> parses
<things> into messages, adds to nicklist
L114[07:11:37] <Syrren> although it's not
specialised for Discord, so it doesn't add the @
L115[07:12:00] <Forecaster> nor does
mine
L116[07:12:08] <Syrren>
aww, can't /nick on discord, *sigh*
<Syrren>
aww, can't /nick on discord, *sigh*L117[07:12:31] <Forecaster> you can change
your name in the settings if the server allows it I think
L118[07:12:49] <Forecaster> I don't add a
@ because it just looks cluttery
L119[07:12:57] <Forecaster> and conflicts
with the op symbol
L120[07:13:22] <Forecaster> instead I
prefix the message with a >
L121[07:13:22] <Syrren> ideally,
completing discord nicks would auto-add an @ to the completed text
so that pinging works properly
L122[07:13:37] <Forecaster> I just type
the @ manually when I want to highlight someone
L123[07:13:42] <Syrren> the weechat script
adds a yellow ⇅ by default so it's obvious when it's a relayed
message
L124[07:13:53] <Forecaster> I can't see
that :P
L125[07:14:52] <Syrren|discord> derpaderpderp
<Syrren|discord> derpaderpderpL126[07:15:15] <Syrren> ugh, looks like
tab-complete isn't working after all
L127[07:15:41] <Syrren> ...huh. it works
but I guess I can't complete a nick that is a suffix of my own?
weird.
L128[07:16:04] <Syrren> Syrren|discord:
pingtest
L129[07:16:08] <Syrren> @Syrren|discord:
pingtest
L130[07:16:15] <Syrren>
@"Syrren|discord": pingtest
L131[07:16:22] <Syrren> none of those show
up as highlights on discord...
L132[07:16:44] <Forecaster>
@Syrren|discord#5293
L133[07:16:50] <Forecaster> weird
L134[07:17:03] <Forecaster> the bot might
not be able to parse the pipe
L135[07:17:07] <Syrren> lol
L136[07:17:13] <Forecaster> or
something
L137[07:21:58] <Forecaster> nice
L138[07:22:11] <Forecaster> MobaXterm
supports utf8 unlike putty
L139[07:22:58] <Forecaster> hm, no
bell
L140[07:23:23] <Forecaster> also wonder
what's with the weird syntax(?) highlighting it's doing...
L141[07:24:34] <Temia> What? I thought
PuTTY had UTF8 support.
L142[07:25:27] <Forecaster> maybe it was
the font I was using that was missing the characters
L143[07:25:33] <Temia> Probably.
L144[07:25:41] <Temia> I'm not sure if
it's set up to do font substitution.
L145[07:29:16] <Forecaster> ah yeah, it's
Consolas that doesn't display utf8 characters
L146[07:29:20] <Forecaster> not in Moba
either
L147[07:30:25] <Forecaster> what's a good
other terminal font?
L148[07:36:20] <Syrren> Forecaster: I use
Inconsolata-LGC
L150[07:38:44] <Forecaster>
hm
<Forecaster>
hmL151[07:39:12] <Syrren> Forecaster: I have
urxvt set up to do fallback though
L152[07:39:19] <Syrren> URxvt.font:
9x15,xft:Inconsolata,xft:Symbola,xft:Unifont
L153[07:40:17] <Forecaster> it doesn't
seem like neither putty nor moba can do fallbacks
L154[07:40:44] <Syrren> :(
L155[07:41:02] <Forecaster> I can try
through bash
L156[07:41:06] <Forecaster> maybe that'll
work better
L157[07:42:06] <Forecaster> then it'll go
through ConEmu
L158[07:42:17] <Syrren> yeah, that might
work better
L159[07:42:24] <Syrren> although I'm
sticking to a Linux VM for all my IRC needs
L160[07:42:35] <Syrren> unfortunately I
can't use linux as host anymore because work :(
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L162[07:48:29] <Forecaster> Well, that
sort of works
L163[07:48:47] <Forecaster> except it
doesn't relay all the keyboard commands
L164[07:48:56] <Forecaster> like page up
and page down...
L165[07:49:41] <Forecaster> I guess ConEmu
wasn't made for that
L166[07:49:50] <Forecaster> hm
L167[07:50:12] <Forecaster>
⇅
<Forecaster>
⇅L168[07:50:48] <Syrren> Forecaster: ConEmu
can be set up to relay more of the keyboard
L169[07:54:44] <Forecaster> do you know
how?
L170[07:55:16] <Syrren> Forecaster: I
don't recall what exactly I changed; look under Settings->Keys
& Macro->Keyboard
L171[07:55:44] <Forecaster> there is no
keyboard under K&M
L172[07:56:08] <Syrren> which version are
you on?
L173[07:56:13] <Forecaster> Controls,
Mark/Copy, Paste & Highlight
L174[07:56:35] <Forecaster> uh
L175[07:56:46] <Forecaster> 160301?
L176[07:56:48] <Forecaster> I
think...
L177[07:56:52] <Forecaster> I don't see a
version number
L178[07:57:01] <Syrren> I'm on
161206
L179[07:57:05] <Syrren> you might want to
update.
L180[07:57:09] <Forecaster> maybe
L181[07:57:34] <Forecaster> "Close
and update to new alpha version 170605"
L182[07:57:35] <Forecaster> sure
L183[07:57:48] <Syrren> alpha version
might be going a bit too far, but w/e
L184[07:58:12] <Forecaster> now there's a
keyboard menu
L185[07:58:25] <Forecaster> it looks like
they split Controls into Mouse & Keyboard
L186[07:58:47] <Syrren> you probably want
to have "Install keyboard hooks" ticked, and
"Alt+Tab" unticked for sanity's sake (unless you use
Emacs inside ConEmu)
L187[07:59:03] <Forecaster> install
keyboard hooks is ticked already
L188[07:59:14] <Forecaster> and alt tab
was already unticked
L189[07:59:20] <Syrren> try pgup/dn
then
L190[07:59:52] <Forecaster> oh cool, it
works now
L191[07:59:57] <Syrren> :)
L192[08:00:09] <Forecaster> as does
pressing up/down arrow to cycle through the command history
L193[08:00:13] <Forecaster> which didn't
work before
L194[08:00:23] <Forecaster> must have been
a bug in the version I was using
L195[08:00:42] <Syrren> mabe
L196[08:00:43] <Syrren> maybe*
L197[08:01:55] <Forecaster> oh man
L198[08:02:12] <Forecaster> ConEmu
updating while the settings window is open is great
L199[08:02:24] <Forecaster> you can see
the changes immidiately, even for fonts and such
L200[08:03:45] <Syrren> nice
L201[08:03:57] <Forecaster> now somewhere
must be an option hidden to make it stop fading on lost focus
L202[08:04:17] <Syrren> Forecaster: looks
like you're using it's quaketerm mode
L203[08:04:49] <Forecaster> I don't know
what that is
L204[08:05:04] <Syrren> Does your term
slide down from above?
L205[08:05:11] <Forecaster> no
L206[08:05:22] <Syrren> hm.
L207[08:05:56] <Syrren> Forecaster: holy
shit the settings window has a search bar.
L208[08:05:59] <Forecaster> well, now it
does when I turned that on
L209[08:06:31] <Forecaster> so it
does
L210[08:06:40] <Syrren>
Features->Colors->Graphic enhancement->Fade when
inactive
L211[08:06:42] <Forecaster> "Fade
when inactive" under Featrues > Colors
L212[08:06:47] <Syrren> ninja'd
L213[08:06:51] <Forecaster> D:<
L214[08:07:20] <Forecaster> now it's
great
L215[08:07:24] <Syrren> ;)
L216[08:07:31] <Forecaster> just one
edge-case type issue
L217[08:07:43] <Syrren> ?
L218[08:08:48] <Forecaster> the context
menu when you click the menu button in the top left doesn't appear
on the same monitor the application window is in
L219[08:08:56] <Forecaster> it appears on
the monitor to the right of it
L220[08:10:12] <Forecaster> this is an
issue because I have 4 monitors connected, but the right-most one
isn't in view, it's next to my bed
L221[08:10:43] <Forecaster> so when I have
ConEmu on the right-most of my 3 primary monitors, the settings
menu appears next to my bed where I can't see it :P
L222[08:11:46] <Forecaster> oh, but not
when in quake mode, then it appears below the button instead
L223[08:11:47] <Forecaster> okay
L224[08:12:45] *
Izaya does this fun thing where he has a Linux VM and a Windows
host and uses an X11 server on Windows and X11 forwarding to get
sane applications on Windows
L225[08:12:57] <White Fyre>
lzaya
<White Fyre>
lzayaL226[08:13:10] <Izaya> 1zaya
L227[08:13:15] <White Fyre>
Oh sorry,
<White Fyre>
Oh sorry,L228[08:13:19] <Forecaster> 2zaya
L229[08:13:19] <White Fyre>
my question is
<White Fyre>
my question isL230[08:13:27] <Izaya> 3zaya
L231[08:13:39] <Izaya> :3
L232[08:13:42] <White Fyre>
what are good uses
<White Fyre>
what are good usesL233[08:13:52] <Izaya> ?
L234[08:13:56] <White Fyre>
for OC
<White Fyre>
for OCL235[08:14:07] <Forecaster>
minecraft
L236[08:14:09] <Izaya> like, practical,
ingame uses?
L237[08:14:15] <White Fyre>
yep for,
<White Fyre>
yep for,L238[08:14:19] <White Fyre>
basically its a city
<White Fyre>
basically its a cityL239[08:14:22] <White Fyre>
and a crime server
<White Fyre>
and a crime serverL240[08:14:39] <White Fyre>
that your supposed to start a mob/gang and become rich
<White Fyre>
that your supposed to start a mob/gang and become richL241[08:15:31] <Izaya> Most obvious would
be security and automation
L242[08:15:37] <White Fyre>
hmm
<White Fyre>
hmmL243[08:15:46] <White Fyre>
security how?
<White Fyre>
security how?L244[08:15:55] <Izaya> controlling doors
and such
L245[08:16:03] <White Fyre>
It doesnt have open security
<White Fyre>
It doesnt have open securityL246[08:16:04]
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L247[08:16:09] <White Fyre>
and you cant grief in a building
<White Fyre>
and you cant grief in a buildingL248[08:16:18] <Izaya> Doesn't need it,
just have it control an iron door
L249[08:16:29] <White Fyre>
thats sadly pointless
<White Fyre>
thats sadly pointlessL250[08:16:56] <AshIndigo> %choose get out
of bed or nah
L251[08:16:57] <MichiBot> AshIndigo:
nah
L252[08:18:13] <White Fyre>
so do you think any other uses?
<White Fyre>
so do you think any other uses?L253[08:19:24] <Izaya> what can you use
networking, redstone control and programmability for?
L254[08:19:32] <Izaya> And why are you
asking me?
L255[08:19:43] <White Fyre>
lol.
<White Fyre>
lol.L256[08:24:24] <White Fyre>
I wish I could learn to make programs ;-;
<White Fyre>
I wish I could learn to make programs ;-;L257[08:26:15] <AshIndigo> %seen
Inari
L258[08:26:15] <MichiBot> Inari was last
seen 2d 16h 37m 27s ago. Saying: But Forecaster seemed to
have
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RLY)
L260[08:32:03] <White Fyre>
would anyone be able to help learn to code in LUA
<White Fyre>
would anyone be able to help learn to code in LUAL261[08:33:50] <AshIndigo> You can help
yourself learn!
L262[08:33:55] <Forecaster>
Just look at existing programs
<Forecaster>
Just look at existing programsL263[08:34:01] <Forecaster>
See how they work
<Forecaster>
See how they workL264[08:34:39] <Izaya> also the manual
exists
L265[08:38:53] <Forecaster> but who reads
manuals
L266[08:43:22] <Syrren> :p
L267[08:43:39] <Syrren> (also dangit, the
relay translation thing I installed doesn't into <nicks with
spaces>)
L268[08:44:00] <Forecaster> mine does
:P
L269[08:44:07] <Mimiru> same.. lol
L270[08:44:13] <Mimiru> Syrren,
client?
L271[08:44:16] <Syrren> weechat
L272[08:44:23] <Mimiru> ahh, can't
help
L273[08:44:24] <Mimiru> lol
L274[08:44:27] <Syrren> I installed
parse_relayed_msg.pl
L275[08:45:10] <Forecaster> I wrote my
parser
L276[08:45:28] <Mimiru> gamax92, Vexatos
and I wrote this one :P
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L278[08:46:50] <AmandaC> %choose game or
no game
L279[08:46:51] <MichiBot> AmandaC:
game
L280[08:46:53] <AmandaC> hrm
L281[08:50:12] <Syrren
Discord> test
<Syrren
Discord> testL282[08:50:26] <Syrren> this was a
triumph
L283[08:50:30] <Syrren
Discord> I'm making a note here, HUGE SUCCESS
<Syrren
Discord> I'm making a note here, HUGE SUCCESSL284[08:50:56] <Syrren> ...still can't
complete nicks with spaces in them, though!
L285[08:51:39] <AmandaC> Damnit, now I
need to listen to that a thousand times.
L286[08:51:46] <Forecaster> I think I just
found a beetle in my cereal bowl
L287[08:51:54] <AshIndigo> %stab
beetle
L288[08:51:55] *
MichiBot shivs beetle with a big transistor doing [7]
damage
L289[08:52:07] <AmandaC> Forecaster: time
to burn the house down, that mother fucker needs to stop invading
our zelda games!
L290[08:52:13] <Forecaster> I'm unsure
though because it's covered in yogurt
L291[08:52:43] <AmandaC> Oh, in that case
it's fine. They're allowed X beetles per box.
L292[08:53:16] <Forecaster> I think it's
more that people in this house don't seal the bags in the cereal
boxes
L293[08:53:40] <AmandaC> ... why do you
eat your cereal with yoghurt? Are you human?
L294[08:54:00] <Forecaster> I appear to be
human, at the moment
L295[08:54:13] <AmandaC> I assumed you
meant some kind of yoghurt-like weird ceral thing
L296[08:54:28] <Forecaster> what?
L297[08:54:44] <AmandaC> IDK, My brain's
currently mid-disconnect, though
L298[08:54:57] <Forecaster> what's wrong
with yogurt and Muesli?
L299[08:55:05] <AmandaC> %blame
Syrren
L300[08:55:05] *
MichiBot blames Syrren for the moon not being made of
cheese
L301[08:55:10] <Syrren> hehe
L302[08:55:31] <Mimiru> well #1 is the
yogurt.
L303[08:55:32] <Mimiru> :P
L304[08:55:42] <Forecaster> I like
yogurt
L305[08:55:44] <Forecaster> >:
L306[08:56:09] *
AmandaC beams the agreed-upon payment to the back of Mimiru's
closet
L307[08:56:19] <Izaya> yog(h)urt is evil
and wrong and should die
L308[08:56:24] <Mimiru> :P
L309[08:56:37] <Forecaster> it's raspberry
flavored >:
L310[08:56:56] <AmandaC> You should eat
cereal with milk, not yogurt
L311[08:57:11] <Forecaster> meh
L312[08:57:27] <Forecaster> that's not as
popular here
L313[08:57:32] <AmandaC> ( the non-us-ians
in here are probably currently very confused )
L314[08:57:59] <AmandaC> ( I've heard from
Inari that "Cereal" (US) means "Oatmeal" (US)
in germany and other places. )
L315[08:58:17] <Forecaster> wut
L316[08:59:21] <AmandaC> I'd dig out the
scrollback, but it was months ago, and I cba. ( and not in here, so
no helpfulness like oclogs )
L317[08:59:48] <AmandaC> It's so delicious
and moist~
L318[09:05:41] <Forecaster> I prefer
yogurt, 's got more taste to it than milk
L319[09:06:07] <Mimiru> yep, more horrible
horrible taste
L320[09:06:09] <Mimiru> :P
L321[09:06:09] <AmandaC> But the cereal
should be providing the taste, you fool! You foolish fool!
L322[09:08:56] <AmandaC> %choose sit
around doing nothing in bedroom or livingroom
L323[09:08:56] <MichiBot> AmandaC:
livingroom
L324[09:09:02] <AmandaC> hrm
L325[09:09:04] <AmandaC> okie
L326[09:09:07] <Forecaster> the taste of
raspberries, so terrible :P
L327[09:09:21] <vifino> wat.
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L329[09:09:40] <Mimiru> raspberry is fine,
yogurt is not. :D
L330[09:09:47] <rhysjonesuk> Hello
L331[09:09:56] <Forecaster> my yogurt
tastes of raspberries
L332[09:09:58] <Forecaster> that's the
point
L333[09:09:58] <rhysjonesuk> Woah
L334[09:10:06] <rhysjonesuk> THATS
L335[09:10:10] <rhysjonesuk> a ton
L336[09:10:15] <AmandaC> Forecaster: mixed
with the taste of yogurt
L337[09:10:19] <rhysjonesuk> of
words
L338[09:10:21] <Mimiru> anything + yogurt
is blarg
L339[09:10:29] <Forecaster>
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L340[09:10:33] <Forecaster> just like
coffee
L341[09:10:41] *
Lizzy likes yogurt
L342[09:10:50] <vifino> rhysjonesuk: And
that's a ton of enter-abusal. Respect your enter key.
L343[09:10:56] <Mimiru> I like a little
bit of Coffee with my flavored cream, and sugar.
L344[09:11:03] <Forecaster> I don't
L345[09:11:04] <Forecaster> :P
L346[09:11:05] <rhysjonesuk> What?
L347[09:11:10] <rhysjonesuk> uhh
L348[09:11:13] <rhysjonesuk> ????
L349[09:11:17] <vifino> Try to write more
than one word on a line.
L350[09:11:23] <Lizzy> ^
L351[09:11:25] <Mimiru> ^
L352[09:11:26] *
AmandaC is fine with yogurt, she doesn't like the idea of it on her
cereal though
L353[09:11:31] <rhysjonesuk> Ok ok I think
i tried
L354[09:11:36] <rhysjonesuk> right now
really
L355[09:11:47] <Forecaster> what else
would you have yogurt for
L356[09:11:49] <Mimiru> Naomi and my kids
love yogurt, but.. meh :P what do they know.
L357[09:12:02] <Saphire> If you ever feel
bored, look at the OpenComputer's repo branch map xD
L358[09:12:05] <AmandaC> Forecaster: a
light lunch snack.
L359[09:12:06] <rhysjonesuk> I do like
yogurt
L360[09:12:22] <rhysjonesuk> wutever
L361[09:12:23] <AmandaC> not as a bloody
milk substitute, though, you heathen
L362[09:12:25] <Forecaster> I like some
resistance in my food
L363[09:12:29] <Forecaster> just yogurt is
meh
L364[09:12:40] <rhysjonesuk> yeah
L365[09:12:43] <Saphire> Are.. you talking
about the same thing?
L366[09:12:48] *
AmandaC makes sure the "/s" sign is around her
neck
L367[09:12:50] <rhysjonesuk> Kind of ..
meh
L368[09:12:51] <Forecaster> it's not a
substitute because I don't have milk in my cereal
L369[09:12:59] <Saphire> And yougurt is
only good as stand-alone, imho
L370[09:13:05] <Saphire> Well, in terms of
mixing
L371[09:13:05] <rhysjonesuk>
What???!?!
L372[09:13:12] <Forecaster> you can't
substitute something that isn't there :P
L373[09:13:28] <rhysjonesuk> ...
L374[09:13:29] <Saphire> But it's good
when you need something milk-y to eat/drink down something
else
L375[09:13:38] <AmandaC> Saphire: this
whole topic started because Forecaster was saying he thinks his
ceral has a beetle in it, which we then discovered he was topping
with yogurt instead of milk.
L376[09:13:45] <rhysjonesuk> ::AFK::
L377[09:13:47] <Syrren>
s/ceral/cereal/
L378[09:13:47] <MichiBot> <AmandaC>
Saphire: this whole topic started because Forecaster was saying he
thinks his cereal has a beetle in it, which we then discovered he
was topping with yogurt instead of milk.
L379[09:13:52] <Forecaster> it was
definetly a beetle by the way
L380[09:13:56] <Forecaster> I rinsed it
off
L381[09:14:01] <Saphire> LOL
L382[09:14:13] <Forecaster> last time I
take cereal from a box that isn't closed properly...
L383[09:14:15] <Saphire> Did it fell into
it, or was it in yogurt?
L384[09:14:29] <Forecaster> we have bugs
in this house, so it was probably in the cereal
L385[09:14:44] <Forecaster> and people
here don't close the boxes at all
L386[09:15:47] <Vexatos> I don't mind
beetles
L387[09:16:00] <Vexatos> They make
everything a bit more... crunchy
L388[09:16:07] <Forecaster> I mind random
bugs where they don't belong :O
L389[09:16:08] <Vexatos> good for
cereal
L390[09:16:08] <vifino> what the
heck.
L391[09:16:10] <Forecaster> :U
L392[09:16:35] <Vexatos> Just think of it
as additional protein!
L393[09:16:47] <Forecaster> and potential
disease
L394[09:16:56] <AmandaC> I'd rather go
with my normal plan, and just burn the house down
L395[09:16:58] <Vexatos> that's why you
fry them of course >_>
L396[09:16:59] <Lizzy> "Welcome to
#oc, where we discuss yogurt on serial mixed with bugs"
L397[09:17:04] <Lizzy>
s/serial/cereal
L398[09:17:05] <MichiBot> <Lizzy>
"Welcome to #oc, where we discuss yogurt on cereal mixed with
bugs"
L399[09:17:05] <Vexatos> >serial
L400[09:17:10] <Lizzy> shush
L401[09:17:15] <Vexatos> Something
something Sherlock season 4
L402[09:17:34] <rhysjonesuk> wwww
L403[09:17:38] <Forecaster> the bugs that
crawl into the cereal wont fry themselves :P
L404[09:17:43] <Vexatos> yyyy
L405[09:17:48] <rhysjonesuk> Ctrl+W doesnt
close
L406[09:17:52] <rhysjonesuk> oh no
L407[09:17:53] <Vexatos> you take the
bugs
L408[09:17:56] <Vexatos> you fry
them
L409[09:17:59] <Vexatos> you put them
back
L410[09:18:07] <Lizzy> that's because
you're in the irc client, rhysjonesuk. not the editor
L411[09:18:09] <Forecaster> I didn't
*expect* bugs
L412[09:18:10] <rhysjonesuk> imma go
shutdown and turn on the computer again
L413[09:18:11] <Lizzy> use /quit for
that
L414[09:18:18] <Vexatos> You don't expect
bugs
L415[09:18:19] <rhysjonesuk> oh
L416[09:18:20] <rhysjonesuk> ok
L417[09:18:22] <Vexatos> They just
happen
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L419[09:18:27] <AmandaC> The whole point
of eating cereal is you don't want to cook, Vexatos.
L420[09:18:30] <Forecaster> then how are
you supposed to pick them out
L421[09:18:36] <Vexatos> with chopsticks,
duh
L422[09:18:44] <Forecaster> if you don't
know they're there
L423[09:18:46] <Vexatos> pointy ones
L424[09:19:15] <Vexatos> nothing better
than a beetle skewer am I right
L425[09:19:36] <gamax92> late opinion but
I just woke up
L426[09:19:44] <gamax92> yogurt is
good
L427[09:19:47] <Vexatos> yes
L428[09:19:48] <Mimiru> boooi
L429[09:19:53] <Vexatos> Cereal with
yoghurt is nice
L430[09:19:54] <Mimiru> s/i//
L431[09:19:54] <MichiBot> <Vexatos>
Cereal wth yoghurt is nice
L432[09:19:55] <Vexatos> Especially
muesli
L433[09:19:57] <Mimiru> damn it
L434[09:19:58] <Mimiru> lol
L435[09:20:08] <Mimiru> s/oi/o/
L436[09:20:08] <MichiBot> <Mimiru>
booo
L437[09:20:15] <Vexatos> oi!
L438[09:21:22] <gamax92> I get tillamook
yogurt
L439[09:21:25] <AmandaC> gamax92: but what
about yogurt on cereal?
L440[09:22:01] <Vexatos> Yoghurt with
crushed hazelnut, porridge oats, and walnut
L441[09:22:02] <Vexatos> so
L442[09:22:03] <Vexatos> good
L443[09:22:08] *
Lizzy pets vifino
L444[09:22:10] <gamax92> Does yogurt in
oatmeal count?
L445[09:22:20] *
vifino purrs
L446[09:22:25] <AmandaC> gamax92:
O.o
L447[09:22:38] <gamax92> Cause I have no
other type of cereal then that
L448[09:23:18] <AmandaC> Then you are
likely free from the sin that Forecaster has committed.
L449[09:23:38] <gamax92> I usually just
eat the yogurt by itself since I usually have no oatmeal
either
L450[09:23:42] <Vexatos> we sometimes grow
our own yoghurt
L451[09:23:45] *
AmandaC checks again that her "/s" sign is firmly
attached to her coller
L452[09:23:47] <Lizzy> :23
L453[09:23:51] <Lizzy> :3
L454[09:23:57] <Vexatos> :4
L455[09:24:03] <AshIndigo> :5
L456[09:24:07] <gamax92> Does AmandaC have
a bell?
L457[09:24:12] <AmandaC> :69(nice)
L458[09:24:21] <Lizzy> :x
L459[09:24:21] <Forecaster> the channel
needs a permanent /s
L460[09:24:27] <Lizzy> :wq!
L461[09:24:48] <AmandaC> gamax92: ofc not,
how would I fetch murder presents with a bell attached?!
L462[09:24:56] <Saphire> What's /s?
L463[09:25:05] <Saphire> Oh,
nevermind
L464[09:25:09] <AmandaC> AIUI a indicator
of sarcasm
L465[09:25:16] <AmandaC> for text-only
means
L466[09:25:25] <Saphire> AIUI?
L467[09:25:31] <Forecaster> what, you mean
you don't say "slash S" in real life?
L468[09:25:32] <Forecaster> D:
L469[09:25:37] <AmandaC> As I Understand
IT
L470[09:25:43] <AmandaC> s/IT/It/
L471[09:25:43] <MichiBot> <AmandaC>
As I Understand It
L472[09:25:55] <Saphire> a Modern (TM) way
of saying that is <sarcasm>
L473[09:26:05] <Saphire> o..o'
L474[09:26:18] <Forecaster> but that takes
longer to write
L475[09:26:19] <AmandaC> I've seen several
ways, I prefer /s because it's short
L476[09:26:29] <Forecaster> also I never
use either
L477[09:26:37] *
Saphire nibbles on AmandaC
L478[09:26:46] *
AmandaC hires someone to tattoo "/s" on Forecaster's
forehead
L479[09:26:56] *
AmandaC baps at Saphire, runs and hides behind Mimiru
L480[09:27:24] *
Saphire pouts, paws at Mimiru :c
L481[09:28:50] <AmandaC> %choose NMS or
Factorio or Subnautica or Finally take your revenge on that blasted
red dot
L482[09:28:50] <MichiBot> AmandaC:
Factorio
L483[09:29:04] <gamax92> Aww
L484[09:29:22] *
Lizzy pets vifino more
L485[09:29:25] *
AmandaC should get yellow science going somtime
L486[09:29:33] <Forecaster> %give MichiBot
red dot
L487[09:29:34] *
MichiBot accepts red dot and adds it to her inventory
L488[09:29:41] <AmandaC> I'm running out
of stuff I can do with red/green/blue/purple
L489[09:29:44] <gamax92> Does vifino have
a bell?
L490[09:29:53] <White Fyre>
sup
<White Fyre>
supL491[09:30:00] <Forecaster> soup?
L492[09:30:12] <gamax92> soup!?
L493[09:30:13] <Saphire> gamax92: pretty
sure Lizzy haven't put a collar on him as he is not a cat..
right?
L494[09:30:23] <gamax92> vifino is a
cat
L495[09:30:27] <Saphire> OH
L496[09:30:38] *
Saphire grins and pulls out a box of bells
L497[09:30:51] <Saphire>
DINGALINGADING
L498[09:31:29] <Saphire> ...no wait,
that's for foxes.
L499[09:31:33] <XDjackieXD> lol
L500[09:31:36] <White Fyre>
how do I learn to code?
<White Fyre>
how do I learn to code?L501[09:32:12] <Saphire> Uuuh..
L502[09:32:20] <XDjackieXD> putting a bell
on a cat is the worst thing you can do to a cat (and most cats are
able to get rid of it in less than an hour of you not looking at
your cat :P)
L503[09:32:22] <Forecaster> by
coding
L504[09:32:30] <Saphire> ^
L505[09:32:33] <Saphire> And
learning
L506[09:32:39] <Saphire> And by learning
to code
L507[09:32:41] <White Fyre>
oh.
<White Fyre>
oh.L508[09:32:49] <White Fyre>
rip me ll
<White Fyre>
rip me llL509[09:32:51] <Forecaster> (and
failing)
L510[09:32:52] <White Fyre>
lol
<White Fyre>
lolL511[09:32:55] <XDjackieXD> depends on how
you learn the best. for me it's lookign at examples and trying it
myself
L512[09:33:16] <Saphire> Btw, by coding
something to learn you might solve quite a few AI problems
L513[09:33:35] <Saphire> But not the same
as learning to code :3
L514[09:34:38] <Saphire> @White Fyre for
me it was pretty much "read a general guide of "how do I
get functions, how to execute and how not to get syntax errors all
the time"" and then "try to make a program or
dissect example code"
L515[09:35:06] <Mimiru> to ping a discord
user with spaces you have to quote the name
L516[09:35:16] <Mimiru> @"name with
spaces"
L517[09:35:18] <Forecaster> I just googled
"how make program write self" and everything was
fine
L518[09:35:51] <Saphire> "Dissect
example program" being find a nice small example that you can
understand, or it doesn't looks too scary, and then analyze what it
does exactly, and then try to add something of your own
L519[09:36:10] <Saphire> Like just output
a variable in some part of it, or make it output something
different
L520[09:36:21] <White Fyre>
ah
<White Fyre>
ahL521[09:36:24] <Saphire> After a while
you'll get a hang of how this or that works
L522[09:36:34] <Saphire> Writing your own
programs helps too
L523[09:37:06] <Saphire> Forecaster: thing
is, those are usually made to basically assemble a program
depending on predefined or user input
L524[09:37:25] <White Fyre>
im hopeless LOL
<White Fyre>
im hopeless LOLL525[09:37:29] <Forecaster> that was
sarcasm
L526[09:37:44] <Saphire> Forecaster:
Oooooor.. there's an XKCD for another type of those
L527[09:38:02] <White Fyre>
well rip me xD
<White Fyre>
well rip me xDL528[09:38:15] <Saphire> https://xkcd.com/1838/
L529[09:38:16] <MichiBot> XKCD Comic Name:
Machine Learning Posted on: 5/17/2017
L530[09:38:47] *
Lizzy snuggles vifino
L531[09:38:56] <Saphire> @"White
Fyre" I have a very annoying kid constantly PMing me about how
he's sad and sucks and every time I try to give him an advice he's
just "but i'm so saaaaaad and laaazy" :V
L532[09:39:02] <Saphire> And i'm too
polite to block him
L533[09:39:34] <Saphire> POINT IS! Don't
be like that. As long as you're actually willing to learn, and you
seem to be, you can learn at least something
L534[09:39:49] <Saphire> ...or in worst
case, you learn that it's not your thing and do something
else.
L535[09:40:21] <Forecaster> or worst worst
case, you keep doing it anyway
L536[09:40:52] *
Saphire shivers
L537[09:41:14] <Saphire> Forecaster:
results of that is node.js scene :P
L538[09:41:59] <AmandaC> Saphire: benifits
of node.js scene: There's always a new framework to try when you
find the one you tried doesn't have that one feature you
needed!
L539[09:42:12] <Saphire> pad-left
L540[09:42:21] <Saphire> Try to say
there's another framework for that :P
L541[09:42:44] <Forecaster> there's
another *explodes*
L542[09:42:45] <Saphire> But really, if
something has a name that scerams "I'm the best", nobody
would bother their asses to redo it
L543[09:42:53] <Saphire> ..or they make a
framework
L544[09:42:59] <Saphire> Oh shit
L545[09:43:18] <Saphire> Also, fuck
electron
L546[09:43:21] <AmandaC> There's a new
node.js / web framework every time a baby shits it's pants,
though
L547[09:43:29] <Saphire> I mean..
sigh
L548[09:44:08] <Saphire> Why nobody just
made something like a simple bootstrapped executable with node and
desktop libs built in to have /QT/ node.js apps?
L549[09:44:26] <Izaya> XDjackieXD: one of
our cats has a bell because otherwise she can sneak up and pounce
on the other one
L550[09:44:37] <gamax92> ... that's
genius
L551[09:44:50] <gamax92> I need to give
the problematic cat a bell
L552[09:44:55] <Saphire> But nooooooo, we
must /USE A FUCKING BROWSER/ to /DISPLAY FULL BLOWN WEB PAGES/ that
have /FULL ACCESS TO YOUR USERSPACE/ and.. *shiver* are just cut
down chrome
L553[09:45:00] <XDjackieXD> Izaya: that
poor cat
L554[09:45:08] <Saphire> gamax92:
meep?
L555[09:45:10] <Izaya> she did it to
herself
L556[09:45:11] *
Saphire mews
L557[09:45:24] *
Saphire bites Izaya
L558[09:45:34] <Izaya> :<
L559[09:45:51] *
Saphire is just a teacup sized derg
L560[09:45:54] *
Izaya boredly wonders if he knows that annoying kid, but decides
probably not
L561[09:47:11] <Saphire> Nah
L562[09:47:18] <gamax92> Intel hears
Windows wants to go ARM with a x86 emulator and threatens Microsoft
about patents
L563[09:47:20] <Saphire> ...I'm tempted to
block him
L564[09:47:24] <Izaya> So not from there,
mkay
L565[09:47:30] <Saphire> gamax92:
uh..
L566[09:47:30] <gamax92> How is qemu not
hitting patents?
L567[09:47:35] <Saphire> wat
L568[09:47:44] <XDjackieXD> why would
it?
L569[09:47:48] <Saphire> gamax92: they are
too small
L570[09:47:52] <AmandaC> ^
L571[09:48:02] <Saphire> Windows is bread
and butter of Intel
L572[09:48:15] <AmandaC> And, Intel
contributes to qemu, I believe
L573[09:48:19] <Saphire> And with the push
for Windows 10 everywhere..
L574[09:48:21] <White Fyre>
whats a good program to start
<White Fyre>
whats a good program to startL575[09:48:22] <AmandaC> For Android stuff
they do, at least
L576[09:48:36] <Forecaster> OpenTODO
L577[09:48:37] <Forecaster> :P
L578[09:48:44] <AmandaC> ( Android's
emulator is based on qemu )
L579[09:49:00] <White Fyre>
I mean in OC
<White Fyre>
I mean in OCL580[09:49:08] <Saphire> @"White
Fyre": Hello World is usually THE basic program. But I would
recommend something like.. hm..
L581[09:49:11] <Forecaster> OpenTODO is an
oc program
L582[09:49:19] <White Fyre>
oh
<White Fyre>
ohL583[09:49:20] <Forecaster> it's on
oppm
L584[09:49:21] <AmandaC> TODO lists make
sense in an OC context, too
L585[09:49:29] <White Fyre>
I know how to do print
<White Fyre>
I know how to do printL586[09:49:32] <White Fyre>
its ez
<White Fyre>
its ezL587[09:49:32] <gamax92> I mean there are
apparently patents for every extension to the x86 processor, but
qemu does handle some of those extensions
L588[09:49:34] <Saphire> AmandaC: TODO:
make a TODO
L589[09:49:44] <Saphire> gamax92:
eh..
L590[09:49:52] <gamax92> Like SSE2 or else
basically nothing could run :P
L591[09:49:56] <Saphire> gamax92: as I
said, Intel /needs/ Windows
L592[09:50:21] <Saphire> I mean, sure,
without that there's Linux.. which is perfect capable of running on
ARM
L593[09:50:29] <AmandaC> Wasn't Intel
trying to buy ARM out a few years ago?
L594[09:50:41] <Saphire> AmandaC: uh, ARM
is not Intels
L595[09:50:42] <White Fyre>
I have my pc, im installing OpenOS right now.
<White Fyre>
I have my pc, im installing OpenOS right now.L596[09:50:51] <Saphire> They're.. uh..
some Japanese corp
L597[09:50:54] <Saphire> *'s
L598[09:50:58] <White Fyre>
what im doing is
<White Fyre>
what im doing isL599[09:51:07] <AmandaC> Saphire: I'm
aware, I assume one or both parties backed out, I thought there was
negioations for a buyout or similar though.
L600[09:51:09] <gamax92> Intel needs
Windows, yes, but that's not my question
L601[09:51:12] <White Fyre>
putting OpenOS on my smaller drive
<White Fyre>
putting OpenOS on my smaller driveL602[09:51:29] <White Fyre>
and my main drive im going to use as storage for programs et
<White Fyre>
and my main drive im going to use as storage for programs etL603[09:51:46] <Saphire> @"White
Fyre" For that you just put in OOS floppy, run `install`,
choose your HDD and reboot without floppy in
L604[09:51:53] <White Fyre>
last night I figured out the basics of navigating OpenOS
<White Fyre>
last night I figured out the basics of navigating OpenOSL605[09:51:54] <Saphire> And yes, that's a
good idea :D
L606[09:51:57] <gamax92> If there are
patents around every extension of the x86 processor how does qemu
not hit them
L607[09:52:09] <Saphire> gamax92: patents
are broken
L608[09:52:30] <Saphire> They are used
only when there are money to get from those, who break them
L609[09:52:42] <AmandaC> gamax92: they do
hit them, but the US doesn't require action against infringement,
and qemu isn't a big fish like Microsoft
L610[09:52:43] <Saphire> Like, actual
money. Millions. Billions. Guaranteed.
L611[09:53:18] <gamax92> Oh okay, so it's
just Intel doesn't care about qemu and doesn't desire to take
action
L612[09:53:24] <AmandaC> yeah
L613[09:53:30] <AmandaC> IT
L614[09:53:36] <White Fyre>
so
<White Fyre>
soL615[09:53:49] <White Fyre>
I downloaded it on my first drive, should I name that drive boot
drive?
<White Fyre>
I downloaded it on my first drive, should I name that drive boot
drive?L616[09:54:18] <AmandaC> It's also
possible they provided a license to the project, because as I said,
Android's Emulator is basically qemu with a fresh coat of paint,
and all the dev images we're told to use are x86-based these
days.
L617[09:54:19] <Saphire> @"White
Fyre" You can do that, if you want. Will be good if you will
drop it in a chest or something.
L618[09:54:32] <White Fyre>
I name it through a label, right?
<White Fyre>
I name it through a label, right?L619[09:54:38] <Saphire> Dunno
L620[09:54:44] <Saphire> Maybe?
L621[09:55:05] <AmandaC> ( Remember when
Intel went all "We can make phones too!" and then nobody
bough tthem? Pretty sure to join the AOSP you need to agree not to
sue eachother these days )
L622[09:55:06] <Mimiru> I can't actually
use the android studio emulator :/
L623[09:55:31] <AmandaC> Mimiru: oh?
L624[09:55:34] <AmandaC> Mimiru: why
not?
L625[09:55:49] <White Fyre>
hey guys I have a question
<White Fyre>
hey guys I have a questionL626[09:55:56] <White Fyre>
I want to right a basic program,
<White Fyre>
I want to right a basic program,L627[09:56:00] <Mimiru> Well, IDK it might
eventually work, but it didn't boot after about 45 minutes, so I
said fuck it.
L628[09:56:02] <White Fyre>
one that will keep my drive named
<White Fyre>
one that will keep my drive namedL629[09:56:27] <gamax92> I know they tried
to make processors that could run both x86 and ARM
L630[09:56:47] <Saphire> gamax92: at same
time or after a halt-restart?
L631[09:56:54] <gamax92> Not sure
L632[09:57:05] <AmandaC> Mimiru: when was
this? They did a lot of work on it in the last ~6m or so, and that
includes strongly encuraging use of an x86 base image, which they
can then hardware accelerate on supported machines.
L633[09:57:21] <Saphire> If it's at the
same time, pretty much "Too unsupported by majority (Aka
Windows)"
L634[09:57:27] <Mimiru> a month or so
ago
L635[09:57:30] <AmandaC> huh
L636[09:57:35] <AmandaC> New image or old
one?
L637[09:57:44] <Mimiru> new I'd
guess.
L638[09:57:47] <AmandaC> ah
L639[09:57:48] <AmandaC> Weird.
L640[09:58:01] *
Saphire chews on Mimiru's keyboard cable
L641[09:58:02] <Mimiru> I'm on AMD, which
seems to have issues
L642[09:58:11] <Forecaster> I thought you
meant 6 minutes...
L643[09:58:18] <Saphire> Forecaster:
:P
L644[09:58:24] <Saphire> OOOoH
L645[09:58:30] <Saphire> Hey, how about a
topic...
L646[09:58:33] <AmandaC> IDK what windows
needs for the hardware acceleration of the x86 emulation stuff,
though. I know for my mac I had to install "Intel HAXM"
which is basically just a custom hypervisor
L647[09:58:38] <Saphire> 24 hour clock VS
AM/PM
L648[09:58:49] <Forecaster> I use
both
L649[09:58:57] *
Saphire screaming
L650[09:59:03] <Saphire> YOU HAVE DOOMED
US ALL
L651[09:59:18] <Forecaster> although
generally here we use 24h
L652[09:59:24] <Mimiru> Yeah, they don't
seem to support any of AMD's accel stuff.
L653[09:59:27] <AmandaC> ah
L654[09:59:32] <Mimiru> which.. fucking
sucks honestly
L655[09:59:40] <AmandaC> I thought AMD
*invented* that fscking extension.
L656[09:59:46] *
Saphire slaps AMD with Intel
L657[09:59:53] <Saphire> As in
"together"
L658[10:00:07] *
Saphire cough cough megacorp shipping
L659[10:00:18] <Saphire> ...can we call
them megacorps already?
L660[10:00:38] *
AmandaC makes a megacorp for shipping ships
L661[10:00:43] <gamax92> make nvidia make
processors :P
L662[10:00:51] <AmandaC> Fandoms HATE
us!
L663[10:00:51] <Saphire> gamax92: they
already do, silly
L664[10:01:06] <XDjackieXD> gamax92:
nvidia got arm cpus
L665[10:01:07] <Saphire> They're just, you
know, Graphical processors
L666[10:03:32] <Mimiru> HOLY SHIT!
L667[10:03:38] <Mimiru> My drone motor is
coming in today! :D
L668[10:03:44] <Mimiru> I gotta put the
rest of the parts on
L669[10:03:48] <XDjackieXD> ^^
L670[10:04:08] *
Saphire eats drone parts
L671[10:04:16] <XDjackieXD> *crunch*
L672[10:04:24] <Mimiru> I wasn't expecting
it until monday
L673[10:04:26] <XDjackieXD> not very
tasty
L674[10:04:36] <gamax92> Please fly your
drone responsible and away from all life
L675[10:04:58] <XDjackieXD> so not flying
it at all or what?
L676[10:05:06] <gamax92> Well
L677[10:05:20] <Saphire> Macroscopic
life
L678[10:05:43] *
AmandaC sets up a trigger to beam Mimiru's completed drone to
mars
L679[10:05:52] *
Saphire eats out a kiwi
L680[10:05:54] <Temia> Or in space.
L681[10:05:55] <Saphire> With a
spoon
L682[10:06:05] <AmandaC> hope you put a
good AI EEPROM in.
L683[10:06:05] <White Fyre>
whats a data card
<White Fyre>
whats a data cardL684[10:06:22] <XDjackieXD> it accelerates
things like encryption/decryption, hashing, ...
L685[10:06:29] <Saphire> @"White
Fyre" Hashing and cryptography acceleration card
L686[10:06:31] <White Fyre>
how to encrypt something
<White Fyre>
how to encrypt somethingL687[10:06:47] <Saphire> Look at the
functions the card provides..
L688[10:06:52] <White Fyre>
ok
<White Fyre>
okL689[10:06:56] <White Fyre>
how do I
<White Fyre>
how do IL690[10:07:01] <Saphire> Oh.. uh
L691[10:07:09] <Saphire> There was a
command for that! I think
L692[10:07:13] *
Saphire nudges payonel
L693[10:07:14] <AmandaC> %choose code or
play-code
L694[10:07:14] <MichiBot> AmandaC:
play-code
L695[10:07:45] <Saphire> Uh.. try `man
components` and there might be a something to list functions of a
component?
L696[10:13:12] <White Fyre>
nope
<White Fyre>
nopeL697[10:17:07] <White Fyre>
so hmm
<White Fyre>
so hmmL698[10:17:16] <White Fyre>
looking for some ideas to do something loll
<White Fyre>
looking for some ideas to do something lollL699[10:17:25] <fingercomp> components -l
<component name>
L700[10:18:25] <White Fyre>
what do you mean finger?
<White Fyre>
what do you mean finger?L701[10:18:59] <fingercomp> the command to
list functions of a component
L702[10:19:17] <White Fyre>
oh
<White Fyre>
ohL703[10:23:02] <White Fyre>
sweet
<White Fyre>
sweetL704[10:23:06] <White Fyre>
I wrote a print command
<White Fyre>
I wrote a print commandL705[10:25:13] <White Fyre>
sweet I learned how to use print!
<White Fyre>
sweet I learned how to use print!L706[10:29:04] <White Fyre>
im getting better :C
<White Fyre>
im getting better :CL707[10:29:07] <White Fyre>
*:D
<White Fyre>
*:DL708[10:33:40] <White Fyre>
how do I find programs installed on openos
<White Fyre>
how do I find programs installed on openosL709[10:39:41] *
AshIndigo pokes MichiBot
L710[10:39:41] *
MichiBot squeaks!
L711[10:41:54] <AshIndigo> %garbage
L712[10:41:55] *
MichiBot kicks a can into a nearby garbage can
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L714[10:46:59] <Temia> Nice shot! You
gained 2000z!
L715[10:47:13] <gamax92> !
L716[10:47:43] *
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L718[10:58:50] <Mettaton_Fab> ah, that old sentence from
Megaman legends!
<Mettaton_Fab> ah, that old sentence from
Megaman legends!L719[11:01:57] *
Temia sips coffee =w=
L720[11:05:05] <Forecaster> oh hey,
someone found the command I added like a week ago :P
L721[11:05:15] <Forecaster> which does
more than that by the way
L722[11:09:40] <AshIndigo> %garbage
Forecaster
L723[11:09:41] *
MichiBot throws 'Forecaster' into the void, it was never seen
again.
L724[11:10:38] <Temia> Hoist by his own
petard.
L725[11:14:27] <Mettaton_Fab> %garbage
<Mettaton_Fab> %garbageL726[11:14:28] *
MichiBot kicks a can into the core of a dying star
L727[11:14:43] <Forecaster> :P
L728[11:14:46] <Mettaton_Fab> that can does no longer
exist i guess
<Mettaton_Fab> that can does no longer
exist i guessL729[11:15:18] <Forecaster> %stab
AshIndigo
L730[11:15:19] *
MichiBot hits AshIndigo with Mipsmiru doing [3] damage
L731[11:15:35] <AshIndigo> ow
L732[11:15:37] <Temia> What Megaman
Volnutt's been doing to pass the time since Legends 2.
L733[11:15:47] <Mettaton_Fab> volnutt?
<Mettaton_Fab> volnutt?L734[11:15:53] <Mettaton_Fab> who's that again?
<Mettaton_Fab> who's that again?L735[11:16:15] <Mettaton_Fab> oh yeah, i remember
<Mettaton_Fab> oh yeah, i rememberL736[11:16:29] *
AshIndigo slinks away with the bn games
L737[11:16:43] <Forecaster> %stab the bn
games
L738[11:16:44] *
MichiBot shivs the bn games with MagIc doing
[2] damage
L739[11:16:54] <AshIndigo> D:
L740[11:16:59] <AshIndigo> %stab
Forecaster
L741[11:17:00] *
MichiBot slaps Forecaster with Sangar's Patreon doing [8]
damage
L742[11:17:07] <Forecaster> ohno
L743[11:17:15] <AshIndigo> %ohno
L744[11:17:16] <MichiBot> ohno
L745[11:20:22] <Forecaster> %garbage
^
L746[11:20:22] *
MichiBot throws 'ohno' into a black hole, it was never seen
again.
L747[11:31:08] <gamax92> %garbage
MichiBot
L748[11:31:09] *
MichiBot throws 'MichiBot' in the incinerator, it was never seen
again.
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L750[11:49:51] <AshIndigo> %garbage
companion cube
L751[11:49:51] *
MichiBot throws 'companion cube' into a portal to the moon, it was
never seen again.
L752[11:52:47] <Forecaster> kind of
appropriate
L753[11:55:31] <AshIndigo> not the one i
wanted though :/
L754[12:03:27] <AmandaC> %garbage a
suspicious body bag leaking green blood
L755[12:03:27] *
MichiBot throws 'a suspicious body bag leaking green blood' into
the void, it was never seen again.
L756[12:14:47] <Forecaster> > -
>
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L758[12:31:45] <Forecaster> why does my
phone think I'm in spain sometimes...
L759[12:36:53] <gamax92> Forecaster: It's
trying to suggest you go on a vacation
L760[12:36:58] <gamax92> a vacation to
spain
L761[12:37:53] <Forecaster> but I don't
really want to be on vacation in spain D:
L762[12:55:38] <AmandaC> Too bad, the
tickets are bought.
L763[12:56:19] <AmandaC> %choose invasion
now or later
L764[12:56:19] <MichiBot> AmandaC:
invasion now
L765[12:56:26] <AmandaC> I guess that'll
do.
L766[12:56:32] <Syrren> %give MichiBot
Napoleon's hat
L767[12:56:33] *
MichiBot accepts Napoleon's hat and adds it to her
inventory
L768[12:58:41] <AmandaC> %give humans a
fighting chance to enter the galactic federation of cheese.
L769[12:58:42] *
MichiBot searches through her inventory for a bit. "I couldn't
find anything..."
L770[12:58:57] <Syrren> :p
L771[12:59:51] <AmandaC> welp, RIP
L772[13:08:06] <20kdc>
But... the galactic federation of cheese sounds so nice...
<20kdc>
But... the galactic federation of cheese sounds so nice...L773[13:16:44] <Forecaster> http://www.awkwardzombie.com/index.php?comic=061217
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L777[14:18:08] <Leo> Hey guys
L778[14:18:19] <Leo> I need a bit of help
with OC
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L780[14:19:45] <Guest80886> I'm trying to
export items from a ME network into a chest
L781[14:20:04] <Wuerfel_21>
Wow, just wow
<Wuerfel_21>
Wow, just wowL782[14:20:26] <Corded> *
<Wuerfel21> _shakes head in disbelief
L783[14:20:36] <Guest80886> I managed to
set the configuration, but can't reset it and the system continues
spitting out items
L784[14:21:23] <Wuerfel_21>
I just booted up Pocket Edition to see if it still
blackscreens.
<Wuerfel_21>
I just booted up Pocket Edition to see if it still
blackscreens.L785[14:21:48] <Wuerfel_21>
I was attacked by xbox live and "minecraft coins"
<Wuerfel_21>
I was attacked by xbox live and "minecraft coins"L786[14:22:32]
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zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L789[14:23:57] <Wuerfel_21>
They ripped off the IAP menu from every generic "build
village, pay us $$$" pay 2 win game ever
<Wuerfel_21>
They ripped off the IAP menu from every generic "build
village, pay us $$$" pay 2 win game everL790[14:24:54] <Wuerfel_21>
Mojang is smoking some good stuff
<Wuerfel_21>
Mojang is smoking some good stuffL791[14:28:07] <Wuerfel_21>
Instead of just having achivements, like every flipping game ever,
it wants you to log into your M$ account or whatever
<Wuerfel_21>
Instead of just having achivements, like every flipping game ever,
it wants you to log into your M$ account or whateverL793[14:35:23] <CompanionCube> burn
it
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L796[14:41:15] <Wuerfel_21>
And they added some extra blocks. Like chisel, but less blocks.
Wow. And they expect you to buy their stuff. When its literally
just what Chisel did since forever. And they get paid for making
it. And the basement dwellers who make chisel do it better. And the
mojang nutjobs just slap more IAPs and Xbox doritos and paid
adventure maps on it.
<Wuerfel_21>
And they added some extra blocks. Like chisel, but less blocks.
Wow. And they expect you to buy their stuff. When its literally
just what Chisel did since forever. And they get paid for making
it. And the basement dwellers who make chisel do it better. And the
mojang nutjobs just slap more IAPs and Xbox doritos and paid
adventure maps on it.L797[14:43:48] <g> this is really nothing
new
L798[14:43:57] <g> but it's definitely odd
to see this in a game that isn't free-to-play
L799[14:46:02] <Forecaster> Guest80886:
uh
L800[14:46:11] <Forecaster> why do you
need OC to export items into a chest?
L801[14:46:37] <Wuerfel_21>
this Menu with the chest or whatever containing money is literally
in 90% of all F2P games
<Wuerfel_21>
this Menu with the chest or whatever containing money is literally
in 90% of all F2P gamesL802[14:55:45] <ds84182> As long as that
shit doesn't make it to PC I'm A-OK
L803[15:00:17] <Wuerfel_21>
PE was always shit. When it finally had all the things beta 1.7.3
had, it was mucked up already IIRC. For PC, i'm sticking to
1.7.10
<Wuerfel_21>
PE was always shit. When it finally had all the things beta 1.7.3
had, it was mucked up already IIRC. For PC, i'm sticking to
1.7.10L804[15:00:43] <Wuerfel_21>
PE was always sortof shit. When it finally had all the things beta
1.7.3 had, it was mucked up already IIRC. For PC, i'm sticking to
1.7.10
<Wuerfel_21>
PE was always sortof shit. When it finally had all the things beta
1.7.3 had, it was mucked up already IIRC. For PC, i'm sticking to
1.7.10L805[15:02:17] <Wuerfel_21>
Anything with a 7 in it's veesion number marks the last version
before they muck it up.... This goes for MC, Windows, photoshop(i
think) and some other software i cant remember the name of
<Wuerfel_21>
Anything with a 7 in it's veesion number marks the last version
before they muck it up.... This goes for MC, Windows, photoshop(i
think) and some other software i cant remember the name ofL806[15:03:52] <ds84182> eeh, I do like
1.8 and 1.10 though
L807[15:04:03] <ds84182> I haven't had a
chance to test 1.11 or 1.12
L808[15:04:06] <Wuerfel_21>
1.9?
<Wuerfel_21>
1.9?L809[15:04:07] <ds84182> but 1.12 looks
nice
L810[15:04:11] <ds84182> lol, 1.9
L811[15:04:37] <Wuerfel_21>
I have sortof stopped updating/playing vanilla
<Wuerfel_21>
I have sortof stopped updating/playing vanillaL812[15:06:18] <Wuerfel_21>
But I hear strange things. Llamas, dafuq? More of those worldgen
structures, which lose all interest after you played them through
once
<Wuerfel_21>
But I hear strange things. Llamas, dafuq? More of those worldgen
structures, which lose all interest after you played them through
onceL813[15:07:12] <ds84182> Eh, the illager
mansions have a random structure so you probably wouldn't lose
interest
L814[15:07:18] <ds84182> plus they're
rare
L815[15:11:54] <Wuerfel_21>
I don't mind them too much, I do mind the lack of work towards
better performance (BlockPos, anyone?) and modding. Mods still
break with every release. I like new blocks (when they actually
look like something out of minecraft), i dislike mucking up a core
mechanic (looking at you, 1.9).
<Wuerfel_21>
I don't mind them too much, I do mind the lack of work towards
better performance (BlockPos, anyone?) and modding. Mods still
break with every release. I like new blocks (when they actually
look like something out of minecraft), i dislike mucking up a core
mechanic (looking at you, 1.9).L816[15:12:22] <ds84182> BlockPos actually
depends on the JVM you're using
L817[15:12:48] <ds84182> If it isn't old
as shit, allocation and gc should be near instant
L818[15:12:58] <Wuerfel_21>
3 primitives vs 1 immutable object.
<Wuerfel_21>
3 primitives vs 1 immutable object.L819[15:13:18] <ds84182> Except when you
need to put it in another object
L820[15:13:32] <ds84182> Then 1 immutable
object is better than 3 immutable objects
L821[15:13:38] <ds84182> well, another
object via boxing
L822[15:13:43] <ds84182> so ArrayList,
HashMap, etc
L823[15:14:03] <ds84182> Plus it
simplifies function arguments
L824[15:14:22] <Wuerfel_21>
Java lacks structs. Badly.
<Wuerfel_21>
Java lacks structs. Badly.L825[15:14:32] <ds84182> and it makes the
decompiled code look a bit better since we don't have multiple
ints
L826[15:14:56] <ds84182> Java should do
allocation sinking, so they would act like structs if they don't
leave the function
L827[15:17:37] <Wuerfel_21>
Never heard of that one, thanks
<Wuerfel_21>
Never heard of that one, thanksL828[15:19:35] <ds84182> s/allocation
sinking/escape analysis
L829[15:19:35] <MichiBot> <ds84182>
Java should do escape analysis, so they would act like structs if
they don't leave the function
L830[15:19:45] <ds84182> I say allocation
sinking because of LuaJIT
L831[15:21:37] <Wuerfel_21>
But structs are mutable and on the stack. Not having them just
leads to copy-paste code or code that relies on the VM to fix the
languages shit.
<Wuerfel_21>
But structs are mutable and on the stack. Not having them just
leads to copy-paste code or code that relies on the VM to fix the
languages shit.L832[15:22:59] <ds84182> Well,
immutability is great because you'd be able to ensure that someone
else didn't change something when you weren't paying
attention
L833[15:23:21] <ds84182> If you use a
mutable object as a key in a hash table your performance will be
terrible
L834[15:24:24] <ds84182> Or, in the case
of Minecraft, a mutable BlockPos would be catastrophic if one
[shitty] mod decided "i'm going to change this globally
accessible BlockPos value"
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L836[15:25:13] <ds84182> Then you wouldn't
be able to safely lend out BlockPos to Minecraft, Forge, or another
Mod out of fears that "someone will modify it"
L837[15:25:54] <ds84182> so then your code
would just be littered with <block pos>.clone() whenever you
need to give a BlockPos (that you want to keep a reference to) to
another mod
L838[15:26:16] <Wuerfel_21>
But the changes to a C struct are like changes to primitives. If
Java just had some basic C features, i would not have some
headaches.
<Wuerfel_21>
But the changes to a C struct are like changes to primitives. If
Java just had some basic C features, i would not have some
headaches.L839[15:27:19] <ds84182> primitives are
immutable though
L840[15:28:08] <Wuerfel_21>
```int x = 1; x++;
<Wuerfel_21>
```int x = 1; x++;L841[15:28:27] <Wuerfel_21>
'''int x = 1; x++;
<Wuerfel_21>
'''int x = 1; x++;L842[15:28:33] <ds84182> Thats not a
primitive, thats a value that contains (technically) a reference to
a primitive
L843[15:28:34] <Wuerfel_21>
int x = 1; x++;
<Wuerfel_21>
int x = 1; x++;L844[15:28:59] <Wuerfel_21>
Wut?
<Wuerfel_21>
Wut?L845[15:29:14] <ds84182> You aren't
mutating the number 1, you are asking 1 "whats the next
number" (2), and storing 2 to x
L846[15:29:34] <ds84182> The variable x is
being mutated
L847[15:29:44] <ds84182> which lines up to
what happens in C also
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L849[15:30:23] <Wuerfel_21>
I understand anything thats not a pointer to be a primitive
<Wuerfel_21>
I understand anything thats not a pointer to be a primitiveL850[15:30:34] <ds84182> The same thing
happens to valhalla's value objects
L851[15:31:57] <ds84182> The thing is, a
variable referring to a pointer or to some primitive bytes of data
on stack is an implementation detail
L852[15:32:16] <ds84182> Someone can write
a JVM that forces boxing everywhere
L853[15:32:45] <Wuerfel_21>
if i did int y=x; before, y would be unaffected. If it were a
pointer to a location containing a number, y == x
<Wuerfel_21>
if i did int y=x; before, y would be unaffected. If it were a
pointer to a location containing a number, y == xL854[15:33:45] <Wuerfel_21>
Java only has primitive values (int, bool and friends) and object
pointers
<Wuerfel_21>
Java only has primitive values (int, bool and friends) and object
pointersL855[15:34:07] <ds84182> See, that
thinking is invalid with recent JVM versions
L856[15:34:28] <Wuerfel_21>
But you still write it that way
<Wuerfel_21>
But you still write it that wayL857[15:34:41] <ds84182> The way its
written is without pointers anyways
L858[15:34:59] <Wuerfel_21>
And the JVM is a big black box of mysteries.
<Wuerfel_21>
And the JVM is a big black box of mysteries.L859[15:35:29] <Wuerfel_21>
Any object reference is a pointer. It is written exactly like
that
<Wuerfel_21>
Any object reference is a pointer. It is written exactly like
thatL860[15:35:51] <ds84182> Actually,
Oracle's documentation says that "new" creates an
object
L861[15:35:58] <ds84182> it doesn't
specify where
L862[15:36:09] <ds84182> https://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/java/javaOO/objectcreation.html
L863[15:36:26] <ds84182> Where an object
is created has always been an implementation detail
L864[15:37:03] <Wuerfel_21>
The implementation is really smart and I only have respect for the
people who male it
<Wuerfel_21>
The implementation is really smart and I only have respect for the
people who male itL865[15:37:23] <ds84182> https://docs.oracle.com/javase/specs/jvms/se7/html/jvms-2.html#jvms-2.7
L866[15:38:13] <ds84182> It just so
happened that "In some of Oracle’s implementations of the Java
Virtual Machine, a reference to a class instance is a pointer to a
handle that is itself a pair of pointers"
L867[15:38:26] <Wuerfel_21>
But the language is written in a way that forces you to hope that
the implementation will understand your intention, because if it
doesnt, your code makes no sense
<Wuerfel_21>
But the language is written in a way that forces you to hope that
the implementation will understand your intention, because if it
doesnt, your code makes no senseL868[15:38:54] <Wuerfel_21>
But the language is written in a way that forces you to hope that
the implementation will understand your intention, because if it
doesnt, your code runs like shit
<Wuerfel_21>
But the language is written in a way that forces you to hope that
the implementation will understand your intention, because if it
doesnt, your code runs like shitL869[15:39:02] <ds84182> Thats
particularly true of all languages
L870[15:39:30] <ds84182> You can write C
code that runs like shit, you can write C code that runs the
fastest it can
L871[15:39:38] <ds84182> Same with
Java
L872[15:39:56] <ds84182> Java doesn't want
people to sacrifice code quality for performace
L873[15:39:59] <ds84182>
*performance
L874[15:40:08] <ds84182> Performance is
the job of the JVM developers
L875[15:40:23] <ds84182> so if 99% of
applications are slow on the JVM, its up to the JVM developers to
fix it
L876[15:40:53] <ds84182> Its not up to the
Java developer to dive into sum.misc.Unsafe just to make their code
20% faster
L877[15:41:48] <ds84182> Just like how it
isn't up to applications themselves to access the disk in the
fastest way possible (by toggling bits on the disk itself)
L878[15:42:00] <Wuerfel_21>
I am not trying to bash java or anything. Infact, I love its
cross-platform-ness and its extensive set of built-in
libraries
<Wuerfel_21>
I am not trying to bash java or anything. Infact, I love its
cross-platform-ness and its extensive set of built-in
librariesL879[15:42:48] <ds84182> I understand, but
the state Java is in now is because of some bad decisions by JVM
developers and Java developers
L880[15:42:50] *
Temia wonders if anyone's made a high-performance library called
Red Comet now...
L881[15:43:16] <Wuerfel_21>
"<ds84182> I understand, but the state Java is in now is
because of some bad decisions by JVM developers and Java
developers" That.
<Wuerfel_21>
"<ds84182> I understand, but the state Java is in now is
because of some bad decisions by JVM developers and Java
developers" That.L882[15:43:28] <Temia> 3 times faster than
the competing libs
L883[15:43:31] <ds84182> Minecraft Forge
doesn't even run on JDK 9 because it utilizes an implementation
detail with the class loader ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L884[15:44:16] <ds84182> If you have to
take an object and cast it to a subclass then you're doing
something wrong
L885[15:44:37] <Wuerfel_21>
Xtend's pretty spiffy, but the eclipse plugin lacks convenience
features and arrays are a pain in the bits
<Wuerfel_21>
Xtend's pretty spiffy, but the eclipse plugin lacks convenience
features and arrays are a pain in the bitsL886[15:45:17] <ds84182> probably because
eclipse :P
L887[15:45:45] <ds84182> I've been using
Kotlin for Android development for several months now
L888[15:46:48] <Wuerfel_21>
And god knows what scala does. I tried looking at OC's source. What
a mess.
<Wuerfel_21>
And god knows what scala does. I tried looking at OC's source. What
a mess.L889[15:49:59] ⇦
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L890[15:55:53] <Wuerfel_21>
Oh, and the lack of unsigned types in java is terrible. https://github.com/Wuerfel21/Langenstein-3D/blob/master/src/net/irq_interactive/langenstein3D/game/render/Caster.java#L488
<Wuerfel_21>
Oh, and the lack of unsigned types in java is terrible. https://github.com/Wuerfel21/Langenstein-3D/blob/master/src/net/irq_interactive/langenstein3D/game/render/Caster.java#L488L891[15:56:24] <Wuerfel_21>
Count the "& 0xFF"s
<Wuerfel_21>
Count the "& 0xFF"sL892[16:00:34] <ds84182> Scala takes
everything you knew about Java and shoves it into an operator
L893[16:00:54] <ds84182> The lack of
unsigned types in Java is quite horrid though
L894[16:01:36] <ds84182> But what I really
want are methods on primitives
L895[16:02:39] <ds84182> Dart has methods
on primitives (since primitives and classes have zero
difference)
L896[16:02:52] <Wuerfel_21>
Operator overloading, too. BigInteger.add is horrible
<Wuerfel_21>
Operator overloading, too. BigInteger.add is horribleL897[16:03:00] <ds84182> So
Math.abs(<int>) becomes <int>.abs()
L898[16:03:53] <ds84182> Do it the Kotlin
way, where there are implicit operator overloads for pure Java
objects if they have certain method names and signatures
L899[16:05:08] <Wuerfel_21>
Then there is the hassle of using fixed point numbers, also to be
seen in the link i posted. >>> 16 all the way
<Wuerfel_21>
Then there is the hassle of using fixed point numbers, also to be
seen in the link i posted. >>> 16 all the wayL900[16:05:37] <ds84182> Fixed point
numbers would be solved with value types
L901[16:07:53] <Wuerfel_21>
Yep. C++ on the jvm, with libs that dont suck. A pipe dream
<Wuerfel_21>
Yep. C++ on the jvm, with libs that dont suck. A pipe dreamL902[16:08:18] <Corded> *
<Wuerfel21> _has never actually used C++
L903[16:10:13] <Temia> If you're looking
for ways to shoot yourself in the foot, C++ won't disappoint
L904[16:10:47] <ds84182>
teeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeemplaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaates
L905[16:11:16] <CompanionCube> %inv add
C++ template compiler error
L906[16:11:17] *
MichiBot summons 'C++ template compiler error' and adds to her
inventory. This seems rather fragile...
L907[16:11:33] <ds84182> thats too large
to add to the inventory
L908[16:11:35] *
Temia balances saucers on her horns.
L909[16:11:44] <Temia> Tem-plates. '
u'
L910[16:12:20] <ds84182> If Clang comes
out with a template debugger then im ditching GCC
L911[16:12:51] <ds84182> or maybe a
template debugger in pure C++ 17
L912[16:13:09] <ds84182> that works on all
compilers except ICC and MSVC
L913[16:13:32] <Wuerfel_21>
Hmmm, being able to replace the default malloc thing is useful. Not
sure if C++ has it, but manual garbadge collection is neat
<Wuerfel_21>
Hmmm, being able to replace the default malloc thing is useful. Not
sure if C++ has it, but manual garbadge collection is neatL914[16:15:53] <Wuerfel_21>
Also, I don't get whhy a lot of cross-platform projects use M$
bloatware compilers on windows and gcc on linux. I there any
downside to Mingw i don't know?
<Wuerfel_21>
Also, I don't get whhy a lot of cross-platform projects use M$
bloatware compilers on windows and gcc on linux. I there any
downside to Mingw i don't know?L915[16:16:30] <ds84182> its because
Visual Studio is the fucking best thing since sliced bread
L916[16:16:44] <ds84182> And mingw
compiled stuff will depend on mingw
L917[16:16:53] <ds84182> which isn't
installed on 99% of windows installs
L918[16:17:49] <Wuerfel_21>
Hmm, i never had to ship any dlls, are you thinking of
cygwin?
<Wuerfel_21>
Hmm, i never had to ship any dlls, are you thinking of
cygwin?L919[16:18:39] <ds84182> probably,
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I don't do windows
L920[16:19:45] <Wuerfel_21>
Just the msvc command line tools are multi gigabyte
<Wuerfel_21>
Just the msvc command line tools are multi gigabyteL921[16:22:07] ⇦
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L922[16:22:10] <Wuerfel_21>
M$ should burn, they just pull bullshit these days
<Wuerfel_21>
M$ should burn, they just pull bullshit these daysL923[16:23:30] <Wuerfel_21>
And guess who owns MC these days... https://images.discordapp.net/attachments/125649403162656768/323180227297673217/Capture_2017-06-10-21-22-33.png
<Wuerfel_21>
And guess who owns MC these days... https://images.discordapp.net/attachments/125649403162656768/323180227297673217/Capture_2017-06-10-21-22-33.pngL924[16:24:11] <Wuerfel_21>
Aaaand we looped back round
<Wuerfel_21>
Aaaand we looped back roundL925[16:27:29] <Wuerfel_21>
I think i shouted my opinion at strangers long enough door
today
<Wuerfel_21>
I think i shouted my opinion at strangers long enough door
todayL926[16:28:05]
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L928[16:40:31] <AmandaC> The "pay for
texture packs thing" was actually always on the console
versions, they just brought it to mobile.
L929[16:41:13] <AmandaC> texture packs /
maps from franchises on the console
L930[16:43:30] <Wuerfel_21>
Pah, them dirty console peasants! Ye only glorious PC Master race
will rise to glory. But yes, consoles are dumb in that regard. Why
do they lock them down like that? They would be much more popular
if you could homebrew away like theres no tomorrow.
<Wuerfel_21>
Pah, them dirty console peasants! Ye only glorious PC Master race
will rise to glory. But yes, consoles are dumb in that regard. Why
do they lock them down like that? They would be much more popular
if you could homebrew away like theres no tomorrow.L931[16:44:16] <Wuerfel_21>
(In the regard of not allowing custom files of any kind)
<Wuerfel_21>
(In the regard of not allowing custom files of any kind)L932[16:44:38] <ds84182> Because it
probably wouldn't pass Nintendo's LotCheck
L933[16:44:47] <ds84182> or whatever MS
and Sony do for theirs
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L940[17:03:46] <gamax92> alright, all
patches split up ... one to make now.
L941[17:06:39] <gamax92> %choose make now
or make later
L942[17:06:40] <MichiBot> gamax92: make
later
L943[17:06:43] <gamax92> <3
L944[17:09:59] <Vexatos> oh no
L945[17:10:04] <Vexatos> I accidentally a
new mod, nice
L946[17:10:17] <Vexatos> MichiBot
understands procrastination
L947[17:19:51] <Forecaster> is it a mod
that converts mud to diamonds?
L948[17:20:04] <Vexatos> You know
L949[17:20:08] <Vexatos> I made such a mod
once https://github.com/Vexatos/CheatyComputers
L950[17:20:28] <Vexatos> But why would you
ever need that much mud
L951[17:20:41] <Vexatos> (rhethorical
question)
L952[17:21:57] <Forecaster> for multiple
users to enjoy of course
L953[17:32:37] <gamax92> Vexatos: later
just means tonight
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L959[19:19:37] <payonel> Saphire:
nudged
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L961[19:31:22] <AmandaC> %choose continue
skull-wall-ing or try and find something else to entertain me
L962[19:31:22] <MichiBot> AmandaC: try and
find something else to entertain me
L963[19:31:43] <AmandaC> %give MichiBot a
fidget cube
L964[19:31:43] *
MichiBot accepts the fidget cube and adds it to her
inventory
L965[19:31:50] *
AmandaC goes back to skull-wall-ing
L966[19:43:53] *
AmandaC downloads the debian install iso, in preperation for
setting up a VM to do this linux stuff under
L967[19:45:48] *
Izaya needs to finish off his automated install fun
L968[20:01:22] <Dudblockman> Do uhh... robots change body
color after a certain number of levels or something?
<Dudblockman> Do uhh... robots change body
color after a certain number of levels or something?L969[20:01:28] <Dudblockman> I now have a yellow bot
XD
<Dudblockman> I now have a yellow bot
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L972[20:13:15] <Dudblockman> o/
<Dudblockman> o/L973[20:27:28] <Izaya> Muahahahaha
L974[20:27:35] <Izaya> I now have an image
that sets up a Debian machine with Kodi and LightDM, creates a user
for Kodi, sets up autologin, and sets up the machine for management
by Ansible
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L978[20:31:52] <gamax92> %seen Inari
L979[20:31:52] <MichiBot> Inari was last
seen 3d 4h 43m 4s ago. Saying: But Forecaster seemed to have
L980[20:32:47] <Dudblockman> I c.
<Dudblockman> I c.L981[20:32:56] <Dudblockman> Robot changes color based on
level.
<Dudblockman> Robot changes color based on
level.L982[20:33:17] <Dudblockman> Since mine is level 10, it is
now made of gold
<Dudblockman> Since mine is level 10, it is
now made of goldL983[20:33:21] <Dudblockman> Neat.
<Dudblockman> Neat.L984[20:43:15] ⇦
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L988[21:02:52] <AmandaC> Izaya:
neat.
L989[21:03:19] <Izaya> preseeding is
nice
L990[21:04:00] *
AmandaC paws at VBox
L991[21:04:14] <AmandaC> Whenever you're
ready to unfreeze and shutdown the VM, that'd be greeeeaaaat
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L996[21:28:02] <Saphire> http://sbnc.khobbits.co.uk/log/logs/old/minecraftforge_%5B2017-06-10%5D.htm
O.o
L997[21:28:10] <Saphire> ...guy got banned
for having an adblocker
L998[21:28:47] <scj643>
lol
<scj643>
lolL999[21:28:51] <Izaya> agh
L1000[21:29:03] <Izaya> the debian
installer doesn't let me have a huge string in my preseed cfg
L1001[21:29:27] <scj643>
Rip
<scj643>
RipL1002[21:30:12] <Saphire>
"[18:31:01] <@LexMobile> Simple equation no ads = no
forge."
L1003[21:35:12] *
AmandaC doesn't understand why people who use adblock act like site
owners kicked their dog whenever they face reprocussions for using
adblock. Do you want a free online service? Unblock the fscking ads
for it.
L1004[21:35:58] <AmandaC> Yes, there's
bad ads, that doesn't mean that you should be blanket banning all
everywhere forever
L1005[21:37:09] <AmandaC> Forge has a
problem in this area espically, developers who would be downloading
it are more likely to have an adblocker
L1006[21:37:40] <AmandaC> But what do I
know, I'm just a cat with billions of universes to look after.
~wanders off, back to trying to murder VBox~
L1007[21:37:50] <payonel> new thread api
has been merged, openos 1.6.4
L1008[21:38:23] <payonel> http://ocdoc.cil.li/api:thread
L1009[21:39:01] <Izaya> and documented
too, fancy
L1010[21:46:44] <payonel> Izaya: 51,910
bytes free on boot, too
L1011[21:47:09] <Izaya> not bad
L1012[21:48:59] *
Izaya checks his stuff
L1013[21:49:46] *
Izaya doesn't because java isn't installed
L1014[21:51:17] <scj643>
Forbes will ban you for using an ad blcoker
<scj643>
Forbes will ban you for using an ad blcokerL1015[21:52:33] <Izaya> forbes doesn't
let me use an adblocker so I don't use it on principle
L1016[21:52:41] <scj643> Same
L1017[21:52:57] <scj643> Every time I see
a forbes article I just leae
L1018[21:53:00] <scj643> *leave
L1019[21:56:00] <AmandaC> Disregarding
the fact that Forbes isn't even worth use as a rag, That's just the
logical extreme that will happen if adblock users don't realise
that they should be unblocking creators they actually want to still
exist.
L1020[21:58:47] <Temia> I only block
known malware carriers and sources of obtrusive ads.
L1021[21:59:06] <Temia> For sites that
meet those criteria, I distance myself from them anyway.
L1022[21:59:37] <Temia> Also those
"promoted news" tabloid garbage, that drives me away so
much.
L1023[21:59:46] <scj643> Same
L1024[21:59:56] <AmandaC> Temia: but
that's too hard, better to just ban them all. Oh hey, what ever
happen to <creator-here>
L1025[22:00:03] <scj643> I wish I had
adblock filters for those thigns
L1026[22:08:19] <gamax92> s/n/h/
L1027[22:08:19] <MichiBot> <scj643>
I wish I had adblock filters for those thighs
L1028[22:14:23] <Temia> gamax no
L1029[22:17:21] <gamax92> Temia: sorry
...
L1030[22:23:30] <Mimiru> 10 minutes of
the Android logo on this virtual device, I get a blank screen, then
suddenly "Process system isn't responding"
L1031[22:23:32] <Mimiru> ._.
L1032[22:23:56] <Mimiru> and I can't
actually quit wait or Close app
L1033[22:23:56] *
Temia hugs
L1034[22:24:00] <Temia> It's okay.
L1035[22:24:08] <Mimiru>
s/quit/click/
L1036[22:24:08] <MichiBot> <Mimiru>
and I can't actually click wait or Close app
L1037[22:31:22] <gamax92> having a great
time
L1038[22:31:25] <gamax92> s/h/not
h/
L1039[22:31:25] <MichiBot>
<gamax92> not having a great time
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L1041[22:45:42] <Saphire> http://store.steampowered.com/app/383120/Empyrion__Galactic_Survival/Q)Q
L1042[22:45:45] <Saphire> gah
L1043[22:45:47] <Saphire> http://store.steampowered.com/app/383120/Empyrion__Galactic_Survival/
L1044[22:45:49] <Saphire> Q_Q
L1045[22:45:53] <Saphire> It's windows
only
L1046[22:45:55] <Saphire> why
L1047[22:45:57] <Saphire> whyyyy
L1048[22:46:01] <Izaya> it also sorta
sucks
L1049[22:46:10] <Saphire> I bet it's
Unity too :V
L1050[22:46:12] <Izaya> when I tried it,
anyway
L1051[22:46:37] <Mimiru> yeah last I
played it it was pretty meh
L1052[22:47:44] <Saphire> Also
L1053[22:47:56] *
Saphire incoherent screaming and wailing at firefox
L1054[22:48:09] <Saphire> WHAT FUCKER
TOUCHED THE ADDRESS BAR SUGGESTIONS?!
L1055[22:48:19] <Izaya> probably a
mozilla SJW
L1056[22:48:28] <Saphire> It's /fucking
useless/
L1057[22:49:07] <Saphire> It.. only shows
my favourites
L1058[22:49:10] <Saphire> And search
suggestions
L1059[22:50:23] <Saphire> Ah
L1060[22:50:40] <Saphire> A had checkbox
for that turned off
L1061[22:50:42] <Saphire> (WHY?)
L1062[22:50:59] <Izaya> did it not show
history?
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L1064[22:54:06] <Saphire> Yeah :V
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L1066[23:12:53] <gamax92> Temia has
horns.
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L1070[23:24:27] *
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so late
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