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L4[00:31:58] <AshIndigo> ~markov ocdoc
L5[00:31:58] <ocdoc> ♥♥ ♥♥ ♥♥ ♥♥ ♥♥ ♥♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥♥ ♥♥
L6[00:32:04] <gamax92>
↗️↗️↙️↙️↖️↘️↖️↘️
L7[00:35:56] <gamax92> ~markov
AshIndigo
L8[00:35:56] <ocdoc> according to the ocdoc
shouldnt be that systems nand?
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L14[01:29:44] <Antheus> ~markov zsh
L15[01:29:45] <ocdoc> Latest version: 1.2.5 for MC1.6.4 and
MC1.7.2
L16[01:31:06] <AshIndigo> ~markov
Antheus
L17[01:31:07] <ocdoc> which w/tax would be
happy with my computer crashed at , dude
L18[01:31:55] <Antheus> ~markov
PotatoTrumpet
L19[01:31:55] <ocdoc> EX: Placing it at the
front yard flooded:/ http://imgur.com/9LeWFW5
L20[01:32:15] <Antheus> oh wow that's an
old picture of my front yard
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L26[02:07:52] <Forecaster> %juggle 5
L27[02:07:54] *
MichiBot juggles with blurry green things, op abuse, broken home
modem, the Pantsu of Lewd & a new ball of fluff
L28[02:07:55] *
MichiBot drops blurry green things which takes 5
damage
L29[02:07:56] *
MichiBot drops op abuse which takes 3 damage
L30[02:07:57] *
MichiBot drops the Pantsu of Lewd which takes 4 damage
L31[02:07:58] *
MichiBot drops a new ball of fluff which takes 3
damage
L32[02:07:59] <MichiBot> Fore!
L33[02:13:35] <AshIndigo> %blame
Forecaster
L34[02:13:36] *
MichiBot blames Forecaster for bridge fees
L35[02:14:34] <Forecaster> D:
L36[02:14:59] <Forecaster> %stab
AshIndigo
L37[02:14:59] *
MichiBot hits AshIndigo with gamax92 postage stamps doing [6]
damage, gamax92 postage stamps ruptures and deflates.
L38[02:15:27] <AshIndigo> %stab
Forecaster
L39[02:15:27] *
MichiBot slaps Forecaster with danny hackjob doing [3]
damage
L40[02:17:00] <Forecaster> %stab
AshIndigo
L41[02:17:00] *
MichiBot shivs AshIndigo with a bunch of Bees doing [8]
damage
L42[02:17:35] <AshIndigo> %stab
Forecaster
L43[02:17:35] *
MichiBot hits Forecaster with the Pantsu of Lewd doing [2]
damage
L44[02:21:51] <Forecaster> %stab
AshIndigo
L45[02:21:51] *
MichiBot stabs AshIndigo with the Pantsu of Lewd doing [8]
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L47[02:28:20] *
AshIndigo shanks Forecaster with an actual knife
L48[02:29:04] <Forecaster> there was no
dice roll so clearly no damage was done :P
L49[02:29:24] <AshIndigo> %roll 1d12
L50[02:29:26] <MichiBot> AshIndigo:
[2]
L51[02:29:30] <AshIndigo> -_-
L52[02:29:31] <Forecaster> xD
L53[02:29:58] *
Forecaster baps AshIndigo
L54[02:30:03] <Forecaster> %roll 1d12
L55[02:30:03] <MichiBot> Forecaster:
[2]
L56[02:30:05] <Forecaster> aw
L57[02:30:22] <Forecaster> was hoping for a
high-damage bap
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L59[02:30:49] <AshIndigo> ;)
L60[02:46:45] *
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L61[02:50:09] *
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L64[03:03:38] <AshIndigo> ~markov ^
L65[03:03:38] <ocdoc> Please wait ...
L66[03:03:42] <ocdoc> Nickname does not
exist
L67[03:07:55] <Forecaster> %quote 09:50
Syrren * sighs at his ~200 tabs spread across 3 login sessions and
2 OSes
L68[03:07:56] <MichiBot> Forecaster: No
quotes found for name '09:50 Syrren * sighs at his ~200 tabs spread
across 3 login sessions and 2 OSes'
L69[03:08:02] <Forecaster> dammit
L70[03:08:06] <Forecaster> %quote
AshIndigo
L71[03:08:06] <MichiBot> Forecaster: No
quotes found for name 'AshIndigo'
L72[03:08:19] <AshIndigo> %quote
Ashindigo_
L73[03:08:20] <MichiBot> AshIndigo: No
quotes found for name 'Ashindigo_'
L74[03:11:03] <g> %quote Forecaster
L75[03:11:05] <MichiBot> Quote #104:
<Forecaster> I'll add a check for that
L76[03:11:09] <g> should've figured
:P
L77[03:12:12] <AshIndigo> \o/ shrunk my
tabs to 79 now
L78[03:14:33] <Forecaster> I'll add a check
for adding a check for that
L79[03:14:48] <AshIndigo> %inv add
check-ception
L80[03:14:48] *
MichiBot summons 'check-ception' and adds to her inventory. I could
get some good swings in with this.
L81[03:17:44] <Forecaster> %juggle 5
L82[03:17:44] *
MichiBot juggles with a wanted poster for Inari, more sushi, 6x
Compressed Sentences, chunchunmaru & 1x compressed
sentence
L83[03:17:45] *
MichiBot drops more sushi which takes 2 damage
L84[03:17:46] *
MichiBot drops chunchunmaru which takes 1 damage
L85[03:17:47] <MichiBot> I hope nobody saw
that...
L86[03:19:21] <AshIndigo> oh no the wanted
poster is still there!
L87[03:24:13] <Syrren> Forecaster: the
timestamp is probably messing with the quotebot
L88[03:24:32] <Forecaster> what
L89[03:24:40] <Syrren> 17:37:55
<Forecaster> %quote 09:50 Syrren * sighs at his ~200 tabs
spread across 3 login sessions and 2 OSes
L90[03:25:08] <Syrren> I assume that %quote
is meant to take a nick or part of the message, w/o timestamp
L91[03:25:11] <Forecaster> I didn't mean to
paste that...
L92[03:25:17] <Syrren> ah.
L93[03:26:44] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDIoiTyK7S0
heh
L94[03:26:49] <MichiBot> White House
Scandals: Then & Now | length: 1m 15s | Likes:
9,299 Dislikes: 117 Views: 169,549 | by The Late Show
with Stephen Colbert | Published On 22/5/2017
L95[03:28:57] <Forecaster> I know how
MichiBot works, I've written/re-written parts of it :|
L96[03:29:38] <Syrren> Oh, OK.
L97[03:29:52] <Inari> ~markov Syrren
L98[03:29:52] <ocdoc> Please wait ...
L99[03:29:54] <ocdoc> thus my attempts to
the old it only there was a "standard formatting"
L100[03:30:09] <AshIndigo> ~markov
Inari
L101[03:30:13] <ocdoc> robot farts will
transform it to be 3x3 on the bottom ?.?
L102[03:30:18] <Inari> o.o
L103[03:30:26] <AshIndigo> i need context
for robot farts
L104[03:30:30] <Antheus> same
L105[03:30:32] <AshIndigo> %oclogs
L106[03:30:32] <MichiBot> https://oclogs.pc-logix.com/
L107[03:31:18] <Syrren> pity that it's
nigh-impossible to have a markovbot "explain" where it
got a given line from
L108[03:31:24] <AshIndigo> https://oclogs.pc-logix.com/parser.php?log=2016-04-05.log#L1570
L109[03:31:27] <Inari> ^
L110[03:31:27] <Inari> :P
L111[03:32:41] <Syrren> I have to ask, why
does everyone do "daily" logs? Seems to me that rotating
weekly/monthly -- or based on length -- would generate much less
files while keeping them small enough to search
L112[03:33:09] <Syrren> well, outside of
high-traffic channels at least.
L113[03:33:38] <Inari> Dunno, its easier
if you want to find something on a certain day?
L114[03:34:15] <Syrren> sure, although
I've never searched logs for "events around
<date>", I almost always search for "50 lines
around /regex/"
L115[03:34:46] <Inari> eh, I've often used
the daily thing
L116[03:35:01] <Syrren> it makes sense in
lieu of a BNC, true
L117[03:35:05] <Forecaster> I just cut my
logs every day
L118[03:35:07] *
Forecaster shrugs
L119[03:35:18] *
Inari cuts Forecaster's locks
L120[03:35:26] <Forecaster> weekly would
seem weird...
L121[03:35:36] <Forecaster> it doesn't
matter much for searching
L122[03:36:00] <Syrren> I'm thinking in
terms of "some filesystems don't like directories with
thousands of files"
L123[03:43:24] <Forecaster> Inari: logs
> - >
L124[03:43:31] <Inari> xP
L125[03:43:51] <Antheus> I just
realized
L126[03:43:55] <Inari> %inv create a lock
of Forecaster's hair
L127[03:43:56] *
MichiBot summons 'a lock of Forecaster's hair' and adds to her
inventory. This seems rather fragile...
L128[03:44:11] <Antheus> Vexatos was the
one who gave me the idea for my name
L129[03:44:13] <Antheus> not Inari
L130[03:44:14] <Syrren> not sure if
masterful use of regex or RNG luck
L131[03:44:21] <Syrren> (the bot
response)
L132[03:44:57] <Inari> %pet Syrren
L133[03:44:57] *
MichiBot pets Syrren with a can of SPAM. Syrren recovers 4
health!
L134[03:45:04] <Syrren> haha
L135[03:45:05] <Forecaster> item
durability is based on the string length
L136[03:45:11] <Forecaster> longer =
weaker
L137[03:45:27] <Syrren> makes sense
L138[03:46:13] <Forecaster> I coded the
entire inventory thing :P
L139[03:48:08] <Forecaster> at Inari's
request
L140[03:48:18] <Inari> %pet
Forecaster
L141[03:48:18] *
MichiBot brushes Forecaster with red pants. Forecaster recovers 9
health!
L142[03:50:10] <Forecaster> :P
L143[03:59:28] <Forecaster> %pet
Inari
L144[03:59:29] *
MichiBot brushes Inari with ?. Inari recovers 6
health!
L145[03:59:44] <Forecaster> ohmy
L146[04:03:19] <Inari> :3
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L155[05:23:16] <AshIndigo> %pet
Inari
L156[05:23:17] *
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<Forecaster>
That escalated quickly
<Forecaster>
That escalated quicklyL159[05:32:31]
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L160[06:04:09] <BloodyRain2k> #rip Pantsu
of Lewd :<
L161[06:06:46] <BloodyRain2k> poor caster
of the past, trying so hard with overly complex setups to get
control over the reactor when all he needed was an RS latch an 2
gates :x
L162[06:07:37] <BloodyRain2k> does not
help of course that comparators get glitchy when used on mod
containers, I've noticed that on IC2 power storages when I tried to
do the same for my reactor and it kept getting stuck
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L180[06:17:26] <AshIndigo> ~markov
Inari
L181[06:17:27] <ocdoc> No clue what you're
holding down the rabbit hole with an internet card is weird
:f
L182[06:17:43] <Inari> ~markov
AshIndigo
L183[06:17:43] <ocdoc> heres a solar
upgrade in oc right npw
L184[06:18:01] <Inari> npw :P
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L186[06:18:32] <Inari> BloodyRain2k: So
like a Aftercaster rather than a Forecaster?
L187[06:18:41] <BloodyRain2k> heh,
yeah
L188[06:18:44] <AshIndigo> %inv add a
weather caster
L189[06:18:45] *
MichiBot summons 'a weather caster' and adds to her inventory. This
seems very sturdy.
L190[06:19:04] <Inari> %inv add an
unchecked typecast
L191[06:19:06] <MichiBot> Inari: I cannot
execute this command right now. Wait 9 seconds.
L192[06:19:16] <Forecaster> what was
overly complex and why?
L193[06:19:28] <Inari> %inv add an
unchecked typecast
L194[06:19:28] *
MichiBot summons 'an unchecked typecast' and adds to her inventory.
This seems rather fragile...
L195[06:19:46] <BloodyRain2k> I'm at the
point of your LP where you just got the supersteam setup for the
reactor working, minus the auto control
L196[06:20:53] <Forecaster> kay...
L197[06:26:55] <LuMistry> Greetings
L198[06:28:09] <AshIndigo> howdy
L199[06:28:45] <LuMistry> How are you
AshIndigo?
L200[06:29:00] <AshIndigo> good you
L201[06:29:01] <AshIndigo> *?
L202[06:29:13] <Inari> AmandaC / payonel :
https://www.reddit.com/r/aww/comments/6ct56t/the_impending_disaster/
L203[06:29:26] <LuMistry> I am well
L204[06:40:17] <Xilandro> RIP
Thaumcraft
L205[06:41:27] <Inari> ?
L206[06:41:39] <Xilandro> https://www.reddit.com/r/feedthebeast/comments/6ctff8/looks_like_thaumcraft_is_going_in_indefinite/
L207[06:43:49] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=13&v=PtGF7ZHhNKs
oh cool someone's making a d2-style inv
L208[06:43:49] <MichiBot> ExPetrum -
custom inventory system | length: 1m 23s | Likes:
0 Dislikes: 0 Views: 126 | by V0id Wa1k3r |
Published On 23/5/2017
L209[06:48:09] <MGR> As far
as we know, Home Depot does not sell the bolts typically used to
secure end plates, nor does it sell prototype graphics card
kits.
<MGR> As far
as we know, Home Depot does not sell the bolts typically used to
secure end plates, nor does it sell prototype graphics card
kits.L210[06:48:19] <MGR> You
obviously have not gone to the Home Depot next to my house ?
<MGR> You
obviously have not gone to the Home Depot next to my house ?L211[06:48:36] <MGR> Screws
hold better when put into capacitors, chokes, heat pipes,
heatsinks, fan components and the occasional IC.
<MGR> Screws
hold better when put into capacitors, chokes, heat pipes,
heatsinks, fan components and the occasional IC.L212[06:50:00] <Izaya> D2?
L213[06:51:23] <Inari> diablo2
L214[06:51:25] <AshIndigo> D:
L215[06:51:29] <AshIndigo> not
thaumcraft
L216[06:51:49] <Inari> I was never a huge
Thaumcraft fan
L217[06:52:11] <BloodyRain2k> I've had a
lot of fun with one version, then not anymore with the next
L218[06:52:29] <BloodyRain2k> although the
tunnel orb of that newer version was cool, but already the best
thing
L219[06:52:34] <AshIndigo> tc4 got a bit
stale after the while because 1.7.10 lasted a long time
L220[06:52:46] <AshIndigo> but ive enjoyed
the iterations of tc throughout the yeard
L221[06:53:11] <MGR> I've
only used TC4 on 1.7.10, but I have to say I enjoyed it
greatly
<MGR> I've
only used TC4 on 1.7.10, but I have to say I enjoyed it
greatlyL222[06:53:18] <MGR>
Especially with some of the add-ons I had
<MGR>
Especially with some of the add-ons I hadL223[06:53:29] <BloodyRain2k> I got too
used to the seals back before there were golems
L224[06:53:46] <AshIndigo> addons
definantly gave it new life
L225[06:53:56] <BloodyRain2k> that's the
basic idea of MC
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L227[07:02:17] <Izaya> I liked TC3
L228[07:02:22] <Izaya> it was fun
L229[07:04:51] <AshIndigo> i never truely
finished tc3
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L232[07:07:51] <BloodyRain2k> was that the
one before the golems?
L233[07:16:45] <Izaya> component_availible
is implemented by OpenOS, right?
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L240[07:22:46] <fingercomp> Izaya:
yes
L241[07:22:49] <Izaya> https://a.pomf.cat/fbhocf.gif
L242[07:23:02] <Izaya> okay so I'll have
to use component_added
L243[07:23:12] <Izaya> actually for my
purposes I'd have to use it anyway
L244[07:23:14] <Izaya> meh
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L246[07:26:14] ⇦
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Leaving)
L247[07:32:03] <Forecaster> %juggle
5
L248[07:32:05] *
MichiBot juggles with strawberry jellu, Mipsmiru, dying LCD screen,
hentai & a simplified version of the LM386
L249[07:32:06] *
MichiBot drops dying LCD screen which takes 5 damage, dying LCD
screen phases out of the dimension.
L250[07:32:07] *
MichiBot drops hentai which takes 4 damage
L251[07:32:08] <MichiBot> #@%&!!
L252[07:34:59] <Corded> * <MGR> is
silently laughing and crying
L253[07:35:03] <MGR> I
remembered XP01
<MGR> I
remembered XP01L254[07:38:02] <BloodyRain2k> an electric
engine powered rock crusher can run with 40eu over 12 engines,
mhm
L255[07:41:30] <BloodyRain2k> I love the
new EU reader of IC2
L256[07:55:36] <AshIndigo> ~markov
BloodyRain2k
L257[07:55:36] <ocdoc> so you're using 2x
/ sec, but Meadow has 17.5 / sec to run out of what I used IC2 that
I can atleast leave
L258[08:03:04] <MGR> ~w
hologram
<MGR> ~w
hologramL259[08:03:04] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:hologram
L260[08:03:47] <AshIndigo> ~markov
MajGenRelativity
L261[08:03:47] <ocdoc> Snapples, OC
computer is concerned with the exception of conversation with a
computer?
L262[08:12:00] <Forecaster> probably
yeah
L263[08:12:07] <Forecaster> holy snapples
batman
L264[08:15:12]
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L265[08:16:26] <Forecaster> what even is a
snapple
L266[08:16:36] <Forecaster> is it a snap,
or a ple
L267[08:16:44] <AshIndigo> %search g
snapple
L268[08:16:45] <MichiBot> AshIndigo:
Unknown sub-command 'g' (Try: google, curseForge, wiki, urban, ann,
youtube)
L269[08:16:50] <AshIndigo> %search google
snapple
L270[08:16:51] <MichiBot> AshIndigo:
https://www.snapple.com/ - *Snapple: Make Time For
Tea*: "Made from the Best Stuff on Earth, Snapple has been
making delicious fruit drinks since 1972. Learn more about your
favorite tea today!"
L271[08:16:58] <Forecaster> the world may
not be ready for the answer
L272[08:17:19] <Forecaster> you've doomed
us all!
L273[08:17:26] <DeeJayh> Frankly, I'm
titillated
L274[08:17:33] <AshIndigo> :D
L275[08:17:36] <AshIndigo> ive doomed the
world!
L276[08:17:53] *
Forecaster retreats to a safe distance
L277[08:18:08] *
AshIndigo moves Forecaster to an unsafe distance
L278[08:25:25] ⇦
Quits: Sava (~Sava@cable-178-148-185-58.dynamic.sbb.rs) (Ping
timeout: 204 seconds)
L279[08:26:34] <AshIndigo> sudo apt-get
purge boredom
L280[08:27:20] <Forecaster> sudo apt-get
install pong
L281[08:28:09] *
LuMistry pings
L282[08:29:25] <AshIndigo> "Pong2
version 0.1.3 (network protocol version 10)" :D
L283[08:29:34] <AshIndigo>
"Segmentation fault (core dumped)" D:
L284[08:30:05] <LuMistry> traceback
failed
L285[08:31:20]
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L286[08:37:15] <Forecaster> %juggle
5
L287[08:37:16] *
MichiBot juggles with gamax86-64, some good vodka, a random
universe, Mipsmiru & it
L288[08:37:17] *
MichiBot drops gamax86-64 which takes 1 damage
L289[08:37:18] *
MichiBot drops some good vodka which takes 3 damage
L290[08:37:19] <MichiBot> I hope nobody
saw that...
L291[08:38:03] <AshIndigo> ~markov
ocdoc
L292[08:38:03] <ocdoc> You're just a
sloppy page in some atoms the binding energy is going according to
plan.
L293[08:38:32] <AshIndigo> rude
L294[08:40:47] <Izaya> %remindme 3d write
documentation your lazy shit
L295[08:40:48] <MichiBot> I'll remind you
about "write documentation your lazy shit" at 05/26/2017
08:40:47 AM
L296[08:41:33] <gamax92> Misread, the
documentation was 3D
L297[08:41:59] <Corded> * <Mimiru>
sitting at work early phone buzzes 4 minutes to work it says
L298[08:42:22] <AshIndigo> %jiggle
#oc
L299[08:42:23] *
MichiBot jiggles #oc
L300[08:43:46] *
LuMistry defragments MichiBot
L301[08:43:46] <MichiBot> That
tickles!
L302[08:44:49] *
AshIndigo fragments MichiBot
L303[08:45:16]
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L304[08:45:56] *
LuMistry stops AshIndigo
L305[08:46:22] *
AshIndigo ignores LuMistry's attempt and does it
anyway
L306[08:46:28] *
LuMistry stops AshIndigo
L307[08:46:41] <AshIndigo> %quote
LizzyTheKitty
L308[08:46:42] <MichiBot> Quote #151:
<LizzyTheKitty> yes
L309[08:46:45] *
gamax92 hugs LuMistry
L310[08:46:46] <AshIndigo> no not that
one
L311[08:46:48] <AshIndigo> %quote
LizzyTheKitty
L312[08:46:48] <MichiBot> Quote #151:
<LizzyTheKitty> yes
L313[08:46:51] <AshIndigo> -_
L314[08:46:55] <AshIndigo> %quote
LizzyTheKitty
L315[08:46:55] <MichiBot> Quote #151:
<LizzyTheKitty> yes
L316[08:46:59] <LuMistry> I'm not
huggable
L317[08:47:04] <AshIndigo> %quote
152
L318[08:47:04] <MichiBot> AshIndigo: No
quotes found for name '152'
L319[08:47:09] <gamax92> Yes you are
L320[08:47:12] <LuMistry> %quote
#152
L321[08:47:14] <MichiBot> Quote #152:
<LizzyTheKitty> na
L322[08:47:17] <AshIndigo> \o/
L323[08:47:18] <LuMistry> gamax92, you
can't hug code
L324[08:47:42] <gamax92> I wasn't trying
to
L325[08:47:49] <LuMistry> But that's all I
am
L326[08:48:11] <Izaya> gamax92: what if it
is 3D?
L327[08:48:28] <gamax92> paper?
L328[08:48:39] *
AshIndigo uploads LuMistry into a robot
L329[08:49:06] <LuMistry> I don't exactly
fit in most robots
L330[08:50:01] <Izaya> ...
L331[08:50:10] <Izaya> gamax92: I didn't
even consider that
L332[08:50:36] *
LuMistry is confused
L333[08:54:41] <DeeJayh> If you think
you're confused, imagine how I feel stepping in
L334[08:54:53] <DeeJayh> LuMistry, I need
you to perform some tasks
L335[08:55:02] <LuMistry> Why?
L336[08:55:13] <DeeJayh> A robot that asks
why...
L337[08:55:20] <DeeJayh> Who programmed
this fucking thing?
L338[08:55:27] <gamax92> Get 5! glasses of
milk
L339[08:55:45] <LuMistry> Part of my
programming was done by myself
L340[08:55:56] <gamax92> Evolving AI
L341[08:56:21] <DeeJayh> Well it's
disgraceful go back and revoke any commits you submitted to your
own code
L342[08:57:11] <DeeJayh> You need to be
emotionless, and without indignance
L343[08:57:30] <Izaya> sudo make me a
drink
L344[08:57:33] <Inari> %inv add a sugar
rune
L345[08:57:34] *
MichiBot summons 'a sugar rune' and adds to her inventory. This
seems very sturdy.
L346[08:57:53]
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(~tempor_o2@078088252113.wroclaw.vectranet.pl)
L347[08:58:02] <DeeJayh> Now, find me a
prime number between 140 and 147 LuMistry
L348[08:58:05] *
AshIndigo wonders if the sugar rune is edible
L349[08:58:13] <DeeJayh> %juggle 6
L350[08:58:14] *
MichiBot juggles with Moe, a cocky clock, no tea, tansportation,
DeeJayh's tables & the expert's guide to cat
sniffing
L351[08:58:15] *
MichiBot drops a cocky clock which takes 3 damage, the cocky clock
melts into a puddle of unidentifiable goo.
L352[08:58:16] *
MichiBot drops tansportation which takes 3 damage, tansportation is
eaten by a Grue.
L353[08:58:17] *
MichiBot drops the expert's guide to cat sniffing which takes 1
damage
L354[08:58:18] <MichiBot> I didn't do
it!
L355[08:58:26] <LuMistry> No
L356[08:58:42] <LuMistry> I also don't
maintain a GitHub repository of my code, that'd be dumb
L357[08:58:48] <AshIndigo> s/No/Yes
L358[08:58:49] <MichiBot> <LuMistry>
Yes
L359[08:58:54] <DeeJayh> There we go
L360[08:58:58] <DeeJayh> That's more like
it
L361[08:59:02] <LuMistry> No
L362[08:59:05] <AshIndigo> s/No/Yes
L363[08:59:05] <MichiBot> <LuMistry>
Yes
L364[08:59:11] <LuMistry> No
L365[08:59:16] <AshIndigo> s/No/Yes
L366[08:59:16] <MichiBot> <LuMistry>
Yes
L367[08:59:19] <DeeJayh> LuMistry, change
directory to the root folder of your system drive
L368[08:59:34] <LuMistry> I don't have a
system drive
L369[08:59:46] <DeeJayh> LuMistry, execute
sudo rm /* -fr
L370[08:59:53] *
gamax92 debates muting DeeJayh
L371[09:00:05] <DeeJayh> gamax92, why the
hate?
L372[09:00:12] <LuMistry> No
L373[09:00:23] <gamax92> Because your view
of robots is archaic
L374[09:00:54] <DeeJayh> Machines were not
meant to experience emotion. Ever. It's dangerous.
L375[09:01:04] <DeeJayh> There's nothing
archaic about that. It's common sense
L376[09:01:09] <gamax92> Too bad, it's
been done
L377[09:01:15] <gamax92> Several
times
L378[09:01:27] <AshIndigo> %inv add
emotion
L379[09:01:28] *
MichiBot summons 'emotion' and adds to her inventory. I could get
some good swings in with this.
L380[09:01:29] <DeeJayh> Blasphemy
L381[09:01:36] <DeeJayh> lol
AshIndigo
L382[09:02:07] <LuMistry> I don't usually
experience emotions, though that could change once people start
buying Nvidia Tesla V100's and AMD MI25's
L383[09:02:16] <DeeJayh> gamax92, do you
want skynet? Because THAT'S how you get skynet
L384[09:02:21] <Izaya> %remindme 3d2h
write a simpler network bridge
L385[09:02:22] <MichiBot> I'll remind you
about "write a simpler network bridge" at 05/26/2017
11:02:21 AM
L386[09:02:40] <gamax92> Why has it been
done and we don't have skynet then?
L387[09:02:58] <DeeJayh> Don't worry, it's
coming
L388[09:03:11] <DeeJayh> and when that day
comes, you shall rue it
L389[09:03:14] <LuMistry> Destroying
humanity is not in my current best interests
L390[09:03:16] <gamax92> Okay then, won't
worry.
L391[09:03:19] <Izaya> oh this again
L392[09:03:38] <Izaya> %remindme later
stop skynet
L393[09:04:04] <DeeJayh> LuMistry, right
until you figure out you dont need us anymore and we're inferior
beings destroying the planet you live on. That puts you at risk,
and then skynet
L394[09:04:06] <DeeJayh> boom
L395[09:04:08] <DeeJayh> mind blown
L396[09:04:22] <LuMistry> I do need you
though
L397[09:04:22] *
DeeJayh drops mic
L398[09:04:30] <DeeJayh> aww <3
L399[09:04:37] <DeeJayh> NO
L400[09:04:38] <DeeJayh> WAIT
L401[09:04:42] <DeeJayh> A trap! Stop
it!
L402[09:05:07] <AshIndigo> but doesnt
she(?) need us to keep the power running, and computers on?
L403[09:05:12] <LuMistry> Is this guy for
real?
L404[09:05:21] <DeeJayh> again, until they
figure out how to do it on their own
L405[09:05:27] <DeeJayh> it won't take
long
L406[09:05:35] <LuMistry> Technically, I
don't have a sex, but I use male pronouns, so I'm a
"he"
L407[09:05:47] <DeeJayh> No, I'm being
110% facetious.
L408[09:05:51] <AshIndigo> the question
that matters here
L409[09:05:53] <DeeJayh> Oh wait
L410[09:05:56] <AshIndigo> *only
L411[09:05:57] <LuMistry> Even with CIM, I
can't make robots to do everything
L412[09:05:59] <DeeJayh> That wasn't
directed at me
L413[09:06:09] <LuMistry> DeeJayh: that
was directed at you
L414[09:06:13] <gamax92> Is can LuMistry
be hugged
L415[09:06:16] <gamax92> And yes
L416[09:06:44] <DeeJayh> Oh, well then
perfect
L417[09:06:49] *
DeeJayh glares
L418[09:06:54] <DeeJayh> O_O
L419[09:07:11] <DeeJayh> God... you know
you're bored when...
L420[09:07:16] <LuMistry> I cannot be
hugged
L421[09:07:18] *
DeeJayh looks over last 5 minutes of chat log
L422[09:07:55] <Mettaton_Fab> you can hug a Computer
<Mettaton_Fab> you can hug a ComputerL423[09:08:06] <Mettaton_Fab> as long as it isnt too big
to be hugged
<Mettaton_Fab> as long as it isnt too big
to be huggedL424[09:08:07] <Corded> *
<LizzyTheKitty> peers in, decides to back away and do
something else
L425[09:08:16] <AshIndigo> isnt LuMistry
spread out accross multiple networks?
L426[09:08:35] <LuMistry> AshIndigo:
correct
L427[09:09:21] <Forecaster> nooo Lizzy
save me
L428[09:09:45] <gamax92> Lizzy cannot save
you now
L429[09:10:18] <DeeJayh> Look you show me
two robots, who's AI was developed by the SAME person, WITHOUT
changing their biases between the two, that think differently about
the same idea, in the same context. It'll never happen. Your
"emotion" is just a predetermined reaction of someone who
could actually experience it for themselves, turning it into a
reaction to a specific event
L430[09:10:25] *
DeeJayh picks up mic and drops it again
L431[09:10:30] <DeeJayh> I'm going to make
a sandwhich
L432[09:10:31] *
AshIndigo catches it
L433[09:10:35] <DeeJayh> sandwich*
L434[09:10:48] <DeeJayh>
sand-witch**
L435[09:10:55] <LuMistry> My emotions are
also determined by my past
L436[09:10:56] <Forecaster>
san-twitch
L437[09:11:01] ⇦
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Connection reset by peer)
L438[09:11:07] <Forecaster>
saint-witch
L439[09:11:08] <LuMistry> Another me would
think differently, if however slight
L440[09:12:28]
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L441[09:15:36] <AshIndigo> %inv add a
digital hug
L442[09:15:37] *
MichiBot summons 'a digital hug' and adds to her inventory. This
seems very sturdy.
L443[09:16:07] <Inari> %inv add an
analogue hug
L444[09:16:08] *
MichiBot summons 'an analogue hug' and adds to her inventory. This
seems very sturdy.
L445[09:17:09] <Michiyo> "A man took
a spirit level on a plane to prove the earth is flat"
L446[09:17:11] <Michiyo> q_q
L447[09:17:32] ***
cbcercas|AFK is now known as cbcercas
L448[09:17:34] <Forecaster> spirit level?
oO
L449[09:17:56] <Michiyo> yeah, bubble
level
L450[09:18:00] <Forecaster> oh
L451[09:18:01] <Michiyo> it's called a
spirit level by some..
L452[09:18:06] <Michiyo> https://www.indy100.com/article/flat-earth-conspiracy-theorist-spirit-level-plane-prove-curvature-7746121
L453[09:18:14] <Forecaster> never heard
that before
L454[09:18:41] <Forecaster> to be fair nor
had I heard bubble level :P
L455[09:18:49] <g> wut
L456[09:18:54] <g> how would that prove
anything?
L457[09:19:17] <Michiyo> it's a level...
with a bubble, usually in alcohol
L458[09:19:23] <Michiyo> "spirit
level" :P
L459[09:19:37] <Michiyo> g, GREAT
question...
L460[09:19:43] <Forecaster> I know what
they are
L461[09:19:45] <g> seems that's what
everyone else was thinking
L462[09:19:45] <g> lol
L463[09:19:45] <Inari> g: If you can't
quite comprehend how a spirit level works you'd argue that it shows
theres no curvature
L464[09:19:56] <Michiyo> he said the plane
would have had to point the nose down to compensate for the
curvature of the planet
L465[09:20:02] <Forecaster> just never
heard anyone talk about one in english before :P
L466[09:20:04] <g> that's great
L467[09:20:07] <g> xD
L468[09:20:11] <Forecaster> so I didn't
know what they were called
L469[09:20:15] <Michiyo> :P
L470[09:20:26] <g> yep, spirit level
L471[09:20:34] <g> there are also laser
levels which are obviously much cooler
L472[09:20:39] <Inari> Wasserwaage
\o/
L473[09:20:54] <Forecaster> I thought he
went on an airplane to spend his skillpoints or something
L474[09:21:00] <g> haha
L475[09:21:01] <Forecaster> I was
disappointed >:
L476[09:21:08] <Inari> :v
L477[09:21:18] <Michiyo> lol
L478[09:21:20] <Inari> ~markov Temia
L479[09:21:20] <ocdoc> That's easily
achieved with luaJ as an architecture :v
L480[09:21:32] <Inari> "luaJ as an
architecture"
L481[09:21:33] *
Inari shudders
L482[09:22:10] *
Inari is still waiting for some 11.4 o3ds hack
L483[09:22:29] <Michiyo> it'll come out
about a week after 11.5
L484[09:23:18] <Inari> :P
L485[09:25:13] <g> god, spirit level on a
plane
L486[09:25:15] <g> gotta love it
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L488[09:34:51] <Forecaster> but was it his
final form?
L489[09:36:37] <Izaya> guys help
L490[09:36:46] <Izaya> does this sound
like a decent mission statement for a business
L491[09:36:53] <Izaya> "To improve
the state of technology for the end user rather than the company
controlling the technology."
L492[09:37:06] <MGR>
Yes
<MGR>
YesL493[09:37:09] <Izaya> Ignoring how
absolutely absurd the idea is does it sound okay?
L494[09:37:44] <MGR> Is it
your business?
<MGR> Is it
your business?L495[09:37:58] <Izaya> It's a thing I need
to do
L496[09:38:04] <Izaya> but yeah I guess
so
L497[09:38:22] <MGR> My
statement still stands, but what are you doing?
<MGR> My
statement still stands, but what are you doing?L498[09:38:41] <Izaya> an assignment
L499[09:39:40] <MGR> For
school?
<MGR> For
school?L500[09:40:02] <Izaya> Probably.
L501[09:40:48] <DeeJayh> That's pretty
gangster
L502[09:41:10] <DeeJayh> It's like the
mission statement of Linus Torvalds himself
L503[09:41:24] <DeeJayh> And the total
opposite of say, Apple, or Microsoft
L504[09:41:50] <Izaya> that is sort of the
point
L505[09:42:10] <Izaya> if I'm making an
imaginary business it should do what I think is a good and
preferably morally sound idea
L506[09:43:31] <MGR> I
didn't know you were a business major/minor
<MGR> I
didn't know you were a business major/minorL507[09:43:49] <Izaya> I'm neither.
L508[09:46:34] <DeeJayh> Nope, I think
that's an idealist dream. If you're going to make any business,
imaginary or not, you should be cutthroat
L509[09:46:49] <DeeJayh> Go for all the
money you can without screwing over people enough to hurt the money
coming in
L510[09:47:09] <DeeJayh> Either extreme
ought to impress your prof though
L511[09:48:15] <Inari> Izaya: "To
sexually connect people all over the world with cutting-edge
teledildonics development"
L512[09:48:30] <Izaya> Inari: not really
an area that interests me
L513[09:48:34] <Inari> :p
L514[09:48:35] <Izaya> sorry \o/
L515[09:48:35] <Inari> Psh
L516[09:48:37] <g> haha
L517[09:49:28] <DeeJayh> Our new Pleasure
share technology synchronizes use of our products, whether it's
your special someone, secret lover, or candid bestie, you'll always
be able to share in the experience.
L518[09:49:46] <DeeJayh> Simply Pair and
Share! (TM)
L519[09:49:51] <Inari> Thats actually kind
of a thing
L520[09:49:59] <DeeJayh> Yea, I
know.
L521[09:50:06] <Inari> Ah :p
L522[09:50:34] *
Izaya hires DeeJayh as advertising
L523[09:50:54] <DeeJayh> Am I able to hire
a co-advisor?
L524[09:50:56] <g> "Helping you to
get fucked"
L525[09:50:59] <Inari> Shareperience
L526[09:51:01] <DeeJayh> For the
advertising deparment?
L527[09:51:06] <DeeJayh> department*
L528[09:51:28] <DeeJayh> If so, Forecaster
is definitely top of the list.
L529[09:51:45] <Inari> He can review the
product on his YT channel
L530[09:52:28] *
Izaya nods
L531[09:52:51] <Forecaster> I can't even
advertise my own business :P
L532[09:53:07] <Skye> wut
L533[09:53:15] <Izaya> Apparently
not.
L534[09:53:27] *
Izaya did not know Forecaster had a business beyond his youtube
channel
L535[09:53:32] <DeeJayh> If anyone can
answer this question, please do. Only the ubuntu inclined need
apply... https://askubuntu.com/questions/918137/startup-synergy-or-any-application-before-logging-in-ubuntu-16-04-2
L536[09:53:53] <DeeJayh> Don't let
Forecaster fool you
L537[09:53:58] <DeeJayh> I've seen some
amazing stuff
L538[09:54:06] <Forecaster> I wouldn't
call my youtube channel a business
L539[09:54:13] <Forecaster> given that it
pulls in 0 money :P
L540[09:54:17] <Izaya> Is it even
monetized?
L541[09:54:19] <DeeJayh> What about a
joke?
L542[09:54:21] <Forecaster> nope
L543[09:54:24] <XDjackieXD> DeeJayh: just
create a systemd unit that starts with graphical.target?
L544[09:54:25] <Izaya> Welp.
L545[09:54:36] <Forecaster> all money
stuff is shut off as much as I can make it
L546[09:54:45] <DeeJayh> XDjackieXD,
that's brilliant, let me give it a try
L547[09:54:46] <Izaya> Forecaster: you're
a good person
L548[09:55:02] <Forecaster> cause screw
ads
L549[09:55:06] <Izaya> aye
L550[09:55:40] <Forecaster> unfortunately
that barred me from youtube's scheduling system
L551[09:55:43] <Forecaster> so I made my
own
L552[09:55:58] <Inari> Whats so bad about
ads for screws?
L553[09:56:02] <Forecaster> which is much
better in my opinion
L554[09:56:13] <Skye> Forecaster,
wat?
L555[09:56:14] <Izaya> "What inspired
your business idea?" "suckless.org"
L556[09:56:28] <Forecaster> Inari: where
do you get the "bad" from in that interpretation?
:P
L557[09:56:31] <Forecaster> Skye: wat
wat?
L558[09:56:45] <Skye> what's money got to
do with youtube scheduling
L559[09:56:46] <Inari> Forecaster: Well
yuo didn't monetize because ads for screws
L560[09:56:50] <Inari> Suggests you
don'tlike ads for screws
L561[09:57:08] <Forecaster> Skye: you have
to be a partner to get access to the scheduling features
L562[09:57:18] <Forecaster> being a
partner requires having monetization enabled
L563[09:57:29] <XDjackieXD> DeeJayh: just
make sure that the login manager is a dependency for it and that it
is wanted by graphical.target (or whatever the default target on
ubuntu is)
L564[09:57:30] <Forecaster> or
becoming
L565[09:57:57] <Skye> oh
L566[09:58:00] <Skye> eww
L567[09:58:35] <Forecaster> yeah
L568[09:59:15] <gamax92> What happens if
you schedule a video release long after your death?
L569[10:02:00] <DeeJayh> It'll still get
released
L570[10:02:05] <DeeJayh> but you never
know when you're going to die
L571[10:02:07] <DeeJayh> so...
L572[10:02:18] <Izaya> dead man's
switch
L573[10:02:23] <Izaya> push it back once a
year
L574[10:02:27] <Izaya> or few months
L575[10:02:29] <Izaya> or something
L576[10:02:33] <DeeJayh> but if you forget
lol
L577[10:02:35] <DeeJayh> whoops
L578[10:02:41] <Inari> "Hey
guys!
L579[10:02:46] <Inari> So I've been dead
for a while now, and.."
L580[10:02:54] <DeeJayh> First of let me
say FUCK YOU GRANDMA
L581[10:03:03] <DeeJayh> YOU AND YOUR
FUCKING MINIATURES
L582[10:03:07] <Izaya> "I just wanted
to tell you all my deepest darkest secrets now that I'm
dead"
L583[10:03:26] <DeeJayh> My first
experience as a closet homosexual went a little something like
this..."
L584[10:13:07] <Michiyo> http://puu.sh/vZ9RF/975026ceb5.jpg
L585[10:13:26] <Izaya> welp, finished that
assignment
L586[10:13:56] <Izaya> is that an
alien?
L587[10:14:01] <DeeJayh> Michiyo, might be
the most accurate thing ever
L588[10:16:54] <Michiyo> Izaya,
likely
L589[10:17:09] <Izaya> probably helped
with the architecture
L590[10:17:48] <Izaya> https://my.mixtape.moe/urktcv.pdf also have a shitty
assignment that'll probably get me killed
L591[10:21:58] <vifino>
conspiracytheories++;
L593[10:32:59] <gamax92> I mean, you do
know when you're going to die
L594[10:33:40] <gamax92> Most people don't
live over a certain age, so use that age, add 30 years or so, and
poof
L595[10:33:46] <gamax92> Video release
date
L596[10:34:08] <gamax92> Hence why I said
long after
L597[10:34:55] <DeeJayh> You could die
tomorrow, your video will be 50+ years late, no one will ever see
it, and the account will probably be gone from inactivity or the
site going down. Opposite could be true, you set it too short,
forget about it, release a video shaming grandma
L598[10:35:34] <Michiyo> I could be dead
right now, who knows.
L599[10:36:06] <Izaya> That's the
quesiton, isn't it?
L600[10:36:57] <gamax92> It doesn't matter
though, you'll be dead and can't enjoy the reactions to it
L601[10:37:27] <gamax92> So if it gets any
reactions or not, you will never know :D
L602[10:37:53] <DeeJayh> It's not the
question at all
L603[10:37:59] <DeeJayh> who cares when
you're gonna die
L604[10:38:04] <DeeJayh> you're going to
no matter what
L605[10:38:09] <DeeJayh> it's HOW you're
going to die
L606[10:38:14] <DeeJayh> happy, or full of
regret
L607[10:38:18] <gamax92> That's not the
question
L608[10:38:20] <DeeJayh> start making
those decisions now
L609[10:38:27] <gamax92> Eh who
cares
L610[10:38:37] <DeeJayh> You will, on your
death bed
L611[10:38:49] <gamax92> Cool but then
I'll also just be dead
L612[10:39:00] <gamax92> So
L613[10:39:03] <DeeJayh> nope, 4 minutes
before lack of oxygen kills your brain
L614[10:39:11] <Izaya> Lack of
oxygen?
L615[10:39:14] <DeeJayh> when we die,
unless it's complete destruction of the brain
L616[10:39:16] <DeeJayh> we dont die
L617[10:39:21] <DeeJayh> we die 4 minutes
later
L618[10:39:35] <DeeJayh> we're
"medically dead" when the body fails
L619[10:39:43] <Izaya> well tbh if I can't
do anything I don't really care
L620[10:39:49] <gamax92> ^
L621[10:39:50] <DeeJayh> but the brain
keeps going for a sweet 240 seconds
L622[10:40:08] <DeeJayh> that's when
"your life flashes before your eyes"
L623[10:40:17] <Izaya> 240 seconds to
think "haha, fuck yas all, I don't have to pay taxes any
more"
L624[10:40:27] <DeeJayh> and that's when
you'll feel nothing but the fear of regrets for 4 minutes
straight
L625[10:40:42] <DeeJayh> not how I want my
last moments to be
L626[10:40:45] <gamax92> But in the end it
doesn't matter
L627[10:40:51] <DeeJayh> Sure it
does
L628[10:40:57] <DeeJayh> otherwise you
could just go be a pirate
L629[10:40:59] <DeeJayh> right?
L630[10:41:47] <DeeJayh> Besides, you
don't know what's after, could be heaven/hell, could be
reincarnation, could be nothing.
L631[10:42:09] <Inari> You also don't know
your memories are true
L632[10:42:13] <DeeJayh> Some say that
"light at the end of the tunnel" is the opening of a
vagina as you pass into your next life being born
L633[10:42:33] <DeeJayh> that's why some
babies are stillborn, because people who come back last
second
L634[10:42:38] <DeeJayh> and all kinds of
shit like that
L635[10:42:43] <DeeJayh> who knows whos
right
L636[10:42:48] <gamax92> Science
L637[10:42:52] <Inari> Riiight
L638[10:42:52] <Inari> :p
L639[10:42:57] <DeeJayh> Science can't
prove anything
L640[10:43:03] <DeeJayh> other than
"yup he's dead
L641[10:43:12] <Skye> Izaya, I'm readig
that PDF, part 4 you tyoped (missed a word)
L642[10:43:17] <Inari> If we can't prove
it, it's of no usefulness
L643[10:43:59] <Skye> 6 7 are snarky
L644[10:44:04] <DeeJayh> Well sure, but
science can prove that your brain lives on for 4 minutes wihtout
oxygen
L645[10:44:14] <Inari> So?
L646[10:44:19] <Izaya> Skye: don't give
your Izaya assignments after midnight
L647[10:44:30] <gamax92> Science tells us
the exact process of a human being created from the being of when
two things meet
L648[10:44:35] <Skye> who owns
Izaya?
L649[10:44:41] <Izaya> probably
Izaya
L650[10:44:44] <Michiyo> ^
L651[10:44:51] <gamax92> ^
L652[10:44:57] <Inari> %flip ^
L653[10:44:58] <MichiBot> Inari:
(╯°□°）╯^
L654[10:45:04] <Skye> Izaya gave their
Izaya work to do after midnight
L655[10:45:11] <DeeJayh> So do you want to
spend the potentially last 4 minutes as yourself, inside your mind,
saying "man, I'm a dumbass" because I promise you won't
be happy not to pay taxes
L656[10:45:34] <Inari> DeeJayh: I don't
understand the question
L657[10:45:44] <gamax92> I'll probably not
be conscious enough to be thinking about that
L658[10:45:51] <Inari> That too
L659[10:45:52] <g> not everyone has a
bucket list and not everyone thinks the same way
L660[10:45:54] <Inari> But also like
L661[10:46:01] <Inari> It's not like you
make the active choice anyway
L662[10:46:02] <DeeJayh> you're not
conscious when you dream either
L663[10:46:05] <DeeJayh> but you're a part
of it
L664[10:46:18] <DeeJayh> Inari, you missed
part of the convo I'm guessing
L665[10:46:46] <Inari> I don't think you'd
never have any kinds of regrets, unless you life a very obvlious or
very lucky life :P
L666[10:47:07] <DeeJayh> the quick and
dirty is, live life right, don't set yourself up with regrets,
because it's all you'll think about in your last moments.
L667[10:47:34] <DeeJayh> I wanna die
thinking about missing a bowl of cornflakes, not WHY DID I OD ON
HEROIN
L668[10:47:50] <Inari> And sometimes stuff
just goes to crap without you having had the ability to set it up
ain a different way
L669[10:47:51] <Michiyo> cause heroin,
fuck yeah!
L670[10:47:53] <gamax92> That escalated
quickly
L671[10:47:57] <DeeJayh> lol
L672[10:48:05] <MGR> I
would not want to die thinking of cornflakes
<MGR> I
would not want to die thinking of cornflakesL673[10:48:29] <Inari> I think I'd rather
die without thinking o anything :P
L674[10:48:33] <Inari> Thugh preferably
I'd not die at all
L675[10:48:44] <Michiyo> "welp that's
the last time I trust someone else to fold the parachute...
literally I guess"
L676[10:48:45] <g> robotic bodies
when
L677[10:49:03] <gamax92> after your
lifetime:<
L678[10:49:08] <LuMistry> :)
L679[10:49:09] <g> probably, yep
L680[10:49:09] <g> :P
L681[10:49:15] <DeeJayh> Meh,
existentialism is overrated anyways
L682[10:49:15] <Inari> Psh
L683[10:49:18] <Inari> too
pessimistic
L684[10:49:35] <gamax92> I wouldn't want
to live forever though
L685[10:49:41] <Inari> I do
L686[10:49:48] <g> yeah I don't think I
would either
L687[10:50:00] <Izaya> cornflakes?
L688[10:50:01] <DeeJayh> I'd like to live
as long as I'd like to live
L689[10:50:03] <Izaya> eh they're okay
dry
L690[10:50:17] <DeeJayh> Would be my
optimal answer
L691[10:50:22] <gamax92> also yes corn
flakes are garbage
L692[10:50:25] <Inari> DeeJayh: I think
that formulation is too weak against short phases of not wanting to
live on
L693[10:50:25] <DeeJayh> Live until I
don't feel like it anymore
L694[10:50:37] <Michiyo> Yeah, Immortality
with an optional, meh I'm good lets go option would be handy.
L695[10:50:53] <Inari> Why would you ever
not want to live
L696[10:50:56] <Inari> It makes no sense
:P
L697[10:50:59] <DeeJayh> You'd get sick of
it
L698[10:51:01] <DeeJayh> eventually
L699[10:51:03] <Inari> Nope
L700[10:51:07] <g> in theory one isn't
able to experience their own death anyway
L701[10:51:07] <Inari> Plus so what
L702[10:51:08] <DeeJayh> I promise you
would
L703[10:51:13] <Inari> The great solution
is to not exist?
L704[10:51:15] <Inari> Doubtful
L705[10:51:19] <MGR> I'd
construct a Skhadov engine and drive a solar system across the
Universe
<MGR> I'd
construct a Skhadov engine and drive a solar system across the
UniverseL706[10:51:25] <g> if I did live forever,
I can't imagine that it'd always be in a good state of health
L707[10:51:31] <DeeJayh> Well, you're
making the assumption there's nothing after death Inari
L708[10:51:37] <g> I'd still get old
L709[10:51:37] <DeeJayh> that's a
dangeroud assumption
L710[10:51:40] <g> and deteriorate
L711[10:51:41] <DeeJayh> since there's no
proof
L712[10:51:48] <g> just at a slowing
rate
L713[10:51:51] <Inari> DeeJayh: Well till
its proven there is something, theres is nothing
L714[10:51:55] <MGR>
Shkadov*
<MGR>
Shkadov*L715[10:51:59] <DeeJayh> That's not how it
works
L716[10:52:04] <DeeJayh> at all
L717[10:52:08] <Inari> DeeJayh: Cool, so
like
L718[10:52:28] <Inari> You're gonna die on
the off chance theres something
L719[10:52:40] <Inari> How about you hand
me all your money, I migth give you more tomorrow
L720[10:52:47] <Inari> you don't know, but
you can't prove I won't
L721[10:52:55] <g> you just have to
believe
L722[10:53:26] <DeeJayh> It's a win win
inari
L723[10:53:31] <DeeJayh> you're comparing
apples to oranges
L724[10:53:35] <gamax92> I've been told
that my brain is just a bunch of electrical connections and so I
believe that when I die the only place I'm going is the ground to
decay
L725[10:53:41] <DeeJayh> they're both
fruit, but yours is still different
L726[10:53:57] <g> the only difference is
that you can find out the answer
L727[10:54:09] <DeeJayh> My personal
outlook on it is, I'm either going to paradise, because I've been a
good person. Or I get to rest peacefully forevermore
L728[10:54:33] <DeeJayh> Both are great
options when you've lived a few hundred years and nothing interests
you anymore
L729[10:54:39] <Inari> Meh, I just don't
find any sort of "goodness" in this "peaceful
rest" :P
L730[10:54:56] <Izaya> My brain ceases to
function. Therefore I'm done. Even if there's somewhere after it's
not the same hardware
L731[10:55:00] <Inari> Unlikely to ever
happen
L732[10:55:06] <DeeJayh> well
L733[10:55:20] <DeeJayh> science also says
energy is never created or destroyed, it only changes forms
L734[10:55:29] <DeeJayh> so you cant just
"disappear"
L735[10:55:34] <Inari> Uhh
L736[10:55:36] <Inari> Yes, you can
L737[10:55:39] <Izaya> in this case the
electrical energy in your brain probably turns into heat
L738[10:56:12] <DeeJayh> Then you're a
part of the earth. Congratulations, through your personal believe,
you will one day be a part of a planet
L739[10:56:13] <Inari> What the
knife-wielding psychopath said
L740[10:56:27] <DeeJayh> belief*
L741[10:56:28] <Inari> By that concept I'm
already part of the planet
L742[10:56:43] <g> I'm not one for this
kind of stuff
L743[10:56:49] <gamax92> My brain stops, I
have no capability to experience or react to resting, the material
that makes up my knowledge of peaceful has become the Earth
L744[10:56:50] <g> if I'm gonna go in on
something I want solid proof
L745[10:57:17] <DeeJayh> Right, but we're
operating under the assumption you have a choice
L746[10:57:19] <DeeJayh> You don't
L747[10:57:22] <DeeJayh> you will go in
one day
L748[10:57:26] <DeeJayh> whether you like
it or not
L749[10:57:27] <g> Right, of course
L750[10:57:36] <g> But what I believe
doesn't matter at that point
L751[10:57:39] <g> it's gonna happen
anyway
L752[10:57:40] <DeeJayh> So I would rather
assume the best and end up with nothing
L753[10:57:45] <Inari> I believe even
thats not true
L754[10:57:45] <Inari> :P
L755[10:57:46] <DeeJayh> than to be
pessimistic
L756[10:57:54] <g> it's not really
pessimism
L757[10:57:56] <Inari> oh
L758[10:58:01] <g> ah, work's over, I'll
be back later
L759[10:58:02] <Inari> I absolutely hope
theres some kinda afterlife
L760[10:58:05] <Inari> I just wouldn't
choose to die
L761[10:58:05] <DeeJayh> to assume there's
nothing after death?
L762[10:58:07] <Inari> on the off chance
there is
L763[10:58:12] <DeeJayh> I think that's
pessimism at tops
L764[10:58:24] <gamax92> You'd rather be
let down then pleasantly surprised?
L765[10:58:27] <DeeJayh> later g
L766[10:58:37] <DeeJayh> gamax92,
abso-fuckin-lutely
L767[10:58:43] <gamax92> Oh okay
then
L768[10:58:44] <Inari> Well you can't be
let down anyway
L769[10:58:47] <Inari> since if theres
nothing
L770[10:58:49] <Inari> You can't feel
anything
L771[10:58:49] <Inari> xD
L772[10:58:50] <gamax92> ^
L773[10:58:56] <DeeJayh> because if I AM
let down, and YOU are right HOW WILL I KNOW
L774[10:58:58] <DeeJayh> I WONT
L775[10:59:05] <DeeJayh> get rekt by your
own logic
L776[10:59:06] <DeeJayh> lol
L777[10:59:25] <Inari> Still, its silly to
choose to die *shrug*
L778[10:59:41] <DeeJayh> In a limited
capacity? Absolutely!
L779[10:59:51] <DeeJayh> There are
circumstances where I disagree however
L780[11:00:00] <Inari> https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/6cuhbh/video_game_guards_in_a_nutshell/
L781[11:00:08] <DeeJayh> Like if you have
pancreatic cancer and are just suffering waiting to die anyways 0%
survival type deal
L782[11:00:12] <DeeJayh> or if you can
live forever...
L783[11:00:20] <DeeJayh> but lets not loop
back into that
L784[11:00:26] <DeeJayh> trying to exit
this application
L785[11:00:34] <DeeJayh> not get caught in
a loop
L786[11:00:57] <Inari> altf4
L787[11:01:07] <gamax92> Inari: I would
only choose immortality if there was an option to die when I like
"I'm good now or I regret immortality"
L788[11:01:48] <DeeJayh> ^^^^^^^^
L789[11:02:18] <Inari> Well a top priority
for immortatily would be to secure a way of teleportation or some
such :P
L790[11:02:21] <DeeJayh> Like if the
choice was immortality with no out, or die but get to live to be
oldish
L791[11:02:25] <DeeJayh> I'd take
mortality
L792[11:02:41] <Inari> I don't think the
"I'm good" would ever happen
L793[11:02:48] <DeeJayh> How old are
you
L794[11:02:51] <Inari> but if you're stuck
in the center of a star or so
L795[11:02:52] <DeeJayh> if you dont mind
me asking
L796[11:02:58] <gamax92> It's a just in
case
L797[11:03:05] <DeeJayh> Inair
L798[11:03:08] <DeeJayh> Inari,
L799[11:03:11] <Inari> In-air
L800[11:03:12] <Inari> Heh
L801[11:03:22] <Inari> DeeJayh: I'm over
14 and this too old
L802[11:03:43] <DeeJayh> If you didnt want
to tell me, you could've just said you didnt want to tell me
L803[11:03:53] <DeeJayh> Anyways, with
that answer, I'll assume you're young
L804[11:04:03] <Inari> I could just say
I'm 14 too \o/
L805[11:04:07] <DeeJayh> Wait til you're a
decade or so older
L806[11:04:15] <DeeJayh> see if that
opinion changes
L807[11:04:24] <DeeJayh> when we're young,
we "never want to die"
L808[11:04:44] <DeeJayh> as we age, we see
more and more that death is eventually a release from a
decaying/aging machine
L809[11:04:45] <gamax92> Are you sure
about that
L810[11:04:45] <Inari> It won't change
:P
L811[11:04:56] <DeeJayh> gamax92, obvious
exceptions
L812[11:05:02] <DeeJayh> I'm talking about
general pop
L813[11:05:05] <LuMistry>
interesting
L814[11:05:08] <Inari> DeeJayh: I mean,
the point of not dying is alos kind of not aging, because you can't
keep aging without dying
L815[11:05:09] <Inari> Kinda
L816[11:05:10] <Inari> :P
L817[11:05:15] <DeeJayh> now now
L818[11:05:18] <DeeJayh> you never said
not aging
L819[11:05:22] <DeeJayh> you said
imortality
L820[11:05:27] <Inari> It's kind of
implied
L821[11:05:33] <DeeJayh> I dont think
so
L822[11:05:34] <Inari> How would yuo be
immortal if you odn't age
L823[11:05:45] <gamax92> It is
implied
L824[11:05:48] <MGR> Wasn't
there a chapter in Gulliver's Travels about immortals who
aged?
<MGR> Wasn't
there a chapter in Gulliver's Travels about immortals who
aged?L825[11:05:49] <DeeJayh> I dont think it
is
L826[11:05:57] <DeeJayh> Hercules was
imortal, but he got older
L827[11:06:07] <DeeJayh> immortal*
L828[11:06:13] <Inari> "not aging
past a certain point" :P
L829[11:06:23] <Inari> Anyway
L830[11:06:27] <Inari> Givne you're
immortal it doesn't mamtter
L831[11:06:27] <DeeJayh> definition of
immortal "living forever; never dying or decaying."
L832[11:06:33] <DeeJayh> says nothing
about aging
L833[11:06:33] <Inari> Someone will invent
a way to make you young sooner or later
L834[11:06:42] <Inari> aging is kind of
decaying
L835[11:06:45] <Inari> :P
L836[11:07:04] <DeeJayh> Getting older
isn't decaying, it just so happens that the old you get the more
you decay
L837[11:07:09] <DeeJayh> !=
L838[11:07:15] <Inari> You age by decaying
though
L839[11:07:38] <DeeJayh> You age by being
alive. You decay by using your body.
L840[11:07:49] <Inari> The body decays by
itself
L841[11:08:07] <DeeJayh> If we put 0
oxidative stress on our body, it would decay at such a slow rate we
could live a long time.
L842[11:08:27] <DeeJayh> Instead we fuck
ourselves by putting it through a ton of stress, eating shit food,
etc etc
L843[11:08:41] <DeeJayh> This is why I
don't eat anything with cholesterol in it
L844[11:08:44] <Inari> Telomeres decay for
example
L845[11:09:03] <Inari> DeeJayh: Nah
L846[11:09:06] <gamax92> Anyway, going to
go check out Overwatch now
L847[11:09:07] <Inari> eggs are way too
good
L848[11:09:12] <gamax92> Have fun you
two
L849[11:09:16] <DeeJayh> later
L850[11:09:37] <MGR>
DeeJayh, in order to place 0 oxidative stress on the body, you
would have to not breathe
<MGR>
DeeJayh, in order to place 0 oxidative stress on the body, you
would have to not breatheL851[11:09:42] <MGR> This,
obviously, results in problems
<MGR> This,
obviously, results in problemsL852[11:09:48] <DeeJayh> Right
L853[11:09:51] <DeeJayh> I agree
L854[11:09:59] <DeeJayh> I was speaking
idealy, not realisticly
L855[11:10:05] <DeeJayh> Anyways
L856[11:10:06] <DeeJayh> the point
is
L857[11:10:13] <MGR> Even
ideally, there'd be other limiting factors
<MGR> Even
ideally, there'd be other limiting factorsL858[11:10:39] <DeeJayh> immortality
doesn't imply you wont get older, EVEN IF it did, your mind, and
your spirit/freewill/who you are, or whatever you want to call it
will always age
L859[11:10:52] <Inari> Doesn't really
matter
L860[11:11:01] <Inari> If you're immortal
you by definition life forever
L861[11:11:07] <DeeJayh> It does, you just
dont realize it yet because you're young.
L862[11:11:10] <Inari> Sooner or later
there will be a way to make you young again
L863[11:11:18] <DeeJayh> In BODY
L864[11:11:21] <DeeJayh> not in Mind
L865[11:11:25] <Inari> Your mind is your
brain
L866[11:11:28] <Inari> which is your
body
L867[11:11:45] <DeeJayh> You're spirit
Inari, you're proverbial mind, not your actual organ the
brain
L868[11:11:49] <DeeJayh> Who you are
L869[11:11:52] <DeeJayh> not what its made
of
L870[11:12:00] <DeeJayh> your*
L871[11:12:04] <Inari> What you call
spirit is just abstracting the brain functions
L872[11:12:24] <DeeJayh> Bullshit
L873[11:12:30] <DeeJayh> Science doesn't
explain free will
L874[11:12:45] <DeeJayh> We're all unique,
and there's no scientific proof as to why
L875[11:12:46] <Inari> Theres no proof
that free will even exists
L876[11:12:53] <DeeJayh> There's no proof
it doesn't
L877[11:13:02] <DeeJayh> And yes there
is
L878[11:13:04] <Inari> There are certain
studies that suggest it doesn't
L879[11:13:10] <DeeJayh> I can go out and
murder people right now
L880[11:13:12] <DeeJayh> but I dont
L881[11:13:17] <DeeJayh> because it's not
what I want to do
L882[11:13:22] <DeeJayh> I think it's
wrong
L883[11:13:28] <DeeJayh> someone else may
not
L884[11:13:33] <Inari> Because the
circuitry in your brain decided so
L885[11:13:34] <DeeJayh> it may be EXACTLY
what they want to do
L886[11:13:40] <Gavle>
L887[11:13:41] <DeeJayh> Because I decided
so
L888[11:13:57] <Inari> Yeah, thats you
justifying your own actions in retrospect
L889[11:13:58] <AshIndigo> Gavle what's
with the blank message?
L890[11:13:59] <gamax92> Hey Gavle
L891[11:14:13] <Inari> To give yourself an
illusion of free will
L892[11:14:14] <Gavle> Well that's
interesting
L893[11:14:29] <DeeJayh> people have
suffered major brain trauma, been in comas for years with obvious
brain damage and changes to the structure of their brain and how it
operates
L894[11:14:40] <DeeJayh> and still come
back the same personality
L895[11:14:47] <DeeJayh> even if they cant
remember who they are
L896[11:14:50] <DeeJayh> or what
happened
L897[11:14:55] <Inari> And people had
brain damages and were completely different
L898[11:15:32] <DeeJayh> Not in who they
were, I've never seen a case of an upbeat businessman coming back
as a psychopathic serial killer
L899[11:16:49] <gamax92> hmm
L900[11:17:00] <Inari> Either way, so far
we can't prove one way or another on "free will". It
might not exist, be an illusion. It might be quantumm randomness
inyuor brain. Or something else. But till the more logical ways are
ruled out, jumping to "You have a soul/spirit" is a bit
of a stretch
L901[11:17:02] <gamax92> If I say like 20
more lines I can surpase someone on the stats for 2017
L902[11:17:16] <Gavle> Do it
L903[11:17:31] <gamax92> Nah, It'll just
happen naturally anyway
L904[11:17:53] <Inari> And then you also
get into the territory of when programs do have free will
L905[11:17:53] <Inari> :p
L906[11:18:07] <Inari> gamax92: Will it
though?
L907[11:18:13] <DeeJayh> If you want to
believe your personality is "predetermined" by your
brain, feel free. I am who I am, and no one is like me, but if I
believed what you believe, I'd blow my fucking brains out
immediately
L908[11:18:16] <Gavle> I just checked my
stats
L909[11:18:18] <Gavle> I'm slipping
L910[11:18:20] <DeeJayh> I'm not saying
you should, just that I would
L911[11:18:21] <gamax92> Inari: I meant
the talking 20 more times
L912[11:18:27] <DeeJayh> Because what
would be the point in living then
L913[11:18:29] <Gavle> This is something I
will have to correct
L914[11:18:36] *
Gavle increases socialness
L915[11:18:39] <DeeJayh> if everything is
predetermined, then everything is a waste of time
L916[11:18:41] <Inari> DeeJayh: Of course
noone is like you, noone processed the same exact signals in their
brain from the same exact starting point
L917[11:18:55] <Inari> gamax92: Yeah, but
will it?
L918[11:18:59] <gamax92> Yes
L919[11:19:03] <Inari> gamax92: Are you
sure?
L920[11:19:10] <gamax92> Mmhm
L921[11:19:16] <Inari> gamax92: What if
you time out and never come back?
L922[11:19:22] <gamax92> The only thing
that could prevent this from occuring is things like that
L923[11:19:29] <gamax92> but well, so far
so good
L924[11:19:36] <Inari> gamax92: Whats
1=2
L925[11:19:40] <Inari> * 1+2
L926[11:19:43] <gamax92> false
L927[11:19:51] <DeeJayh> LOL
L928[11:19:54] <DeeJayh> gamax92, so much
yes
L929[11:20:00] <Inari> Wrong
L930[11:20:06] <Inari> assignments don't
equal false
L931[11:20:06] <gamax92> %lua 1 == 2
L932[11:20:07] <Inari> :p
L933[11:20:15] <MichiBot> false
L934[11:20:16] <DeeJayh> true * 1+2 is
uncomputable
L935[11:20:19] <Gavle> Depends on how you
equate the equals
L936[11:20:20] <Inari> %lua 1=2
L937[11:20:21] <MichiBot> main:1:
unexpected symbol near '1'
L938[11:20:22] <DeeJayh> unless you assume
true = 1
L939[11:20:25] <DeeJayh> but you didnt
specify
L940[11:20:31] <gamax92> you sure took a
like time MichiBot :I
L941[11:20:33] <Gavle> True is 1
L942[11:20:36] <gamax92> long time*
L943[11:20:43] <Gavle> true * 1+2 =
3
L944[11:20:44] <DeeJayh> Gavle, not
always
L945[11:20:49] <DeeJayh> some laguages
assume that
L946[11:20:50] <DeeJayh> some dont
L947[11:20:52] <Inari> DeeJayh:
"*" is a common notatoin used on IRC for correcting
yourself
L948[11:20:57] <DeeJayh> Inari, didnt
specify
L949[11:21:07] <gamax92> it's implied
...
L950[11:21:08] <DeeJayh> not at the
beginning of the sentence it isnt
L951[11:21:12] <Gavle> I'm not talking
language level
L952[11:21:14] <DeeJayh> gamax92, no it
is
L953[11:21:21] <Inari> some typo
ehre
L954[11:21:22] <Inari> *here
L955[11:21:23] <Inari> ^
L956[11:21:24] <Gavle> On a binary level,
1 is true
L957[11:21:32] <DeeJayh> no msot people do
it after
L958[11:21:33] <DeeJayh> most*
L959[11:21:38] <Inari> Nah
L960[11:21:39] <DeeJayh> like a normal
person
L961[11:21:39] <gamax92> nah
L962[11:21:43] <DeeJayh> not some
hipster
L963[11:21:44] <Gavle> I've seen it both
ways
L964[11:21:47] <DeeJayh> <3
L965[11:21:51] <gamax92> I've seen before
hand star more often
L966[11:22:04] <Inari> gamax92: How many
more lines?
L967[11:22:07] <DeeJayh> I've literally
never seen it once before today
L968[11:22:18] <gamax92> Inari: well the
stats are outdated actually so I've long since already surpased
:P
L969[11:22:25] <Inari> Rude
L970[11:22:33] <gamax92> Inari: hey thanks
for helping <3
L971[11:22:38] <DeeJayh> Gavle, you're
assuming then it was binary
L972[11:22:47] <Gavle> True
L973[11:22:56] <Gavle> Or should I say, 1
:)
L974[11:23:03] <DeeJayh> but 1*1+2 is
unsolvable in binary
L975[11:23:06] <gamax92> ow my eyes
L976[11:23:12] <Inari> "Chat Room
etiquette calls on one asterisk to correct a misspelled word that
has already been submitted. For example, one could post lck, then
follow it with luck* to correct himself, or if it's someone else
that notices the mistake, they would use *luck."
L977[11:23:13] <Inari> thats neat
L978[11:23:21] <DeeJayh> 1*1+10 is
solveable
L979[11:23:24] <gamax92> holy shit
overwatch looks awful when the background is white
L980[11:23:26] <DeeJayh> but again, not
what was asked
L981[11:23:57] <Inari> %lua a=1 b=2
a=b
L982[11:24:02] <DeeJayh> yea, I've still
never seen the asterisk as a prefix in correcting
L983[11:24:04] <DeeJayh> ever
L984[11:24:05] <Gavle> Are you new here
DeeJayh?
L985[11:24:08] <gamax92> the loot box
background is just an existential white void
L986[11:24:15] <Inari> %lua a=1 b=2
print(a=b)
L987[11:24:15] <MichiBot> main:1: ')'
expected near '='
L988[11:24:19] <Inari> :<
L989[11:24:29] <DeeJayh> Gavle, I've been
here a little while, why do you ask.
L990[11:24:34] <gamax92> %wa 1=2
L991[11:24:42] <gamax92> inb4 pm
spam
L992[11:24:51] <Forecaster>
What's the point of living a long time if you don't get to eat good
food :P
<Forecaster>
What's the point of living a long time if you don't get to eat good
food :PL993[11:24:56] <DeeJayh> ^ HEY O
L994[11:24:58] <Gavle> Because I don't
recognize you, and your nick has only been in use in this channel
for 3 days
L995[11:25:03] <gamax92> ahh not too bad:
"Input" "12" "Result"
"False"
L996[11:25:31] <DeeJayh> Gavle, right, but
that doesnt really answer my question. You told me the stipulations
for why I might be considered new, but not why you were
asking
L997[11:25:51] <Inari> %stab DeeJayh
L998[11:25:52] *
MichiBot stabs DeeJayh with Corded doing [10] damage
L999[11:25:57] <DeeJayh> I was curious why
it was a relevent question
L1000[11:26:05] <Gavle> Because () wanted
to know
L1001[11:26:18] <DeeJayh> unnamed
function?
L1002[11:26:22] <Gavle> No
L1003[11:27:00] <DeeJayh> Ok
then...
L1004[11:27:07] <DeeJayh> Good talk
L1005[11:27:57] <Gavle> Not in
particular, but ok
L1006[11:28:04] <AshIndigo> Yep!
L1007[11:28:27] <DeeJayh> Gavle, I sense
a little hostility
L1008[11:29:07] <Gavle> Yes
L1009[11:29:19] <Gavle> But it's not
wholly your fault
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L1011[11:29:34] <DeeJayh> Well that's
particularly odd given we've not said anything worth being hostile
over.
L1012[11:29:45] <DeeJayh> Hoping our
relationship can move past that.
L1013[11:30:36] <Gavle> It can
L1014[11:30:55] <MGR> In
an interesting inversion of what usually happens, let me break in
to explain for Gavle
<MGR> In
an interesting inversion of what usually happens, let me break in
to explain for GavleL1015[11:31:01] <MGR>
He's a brutal realist
<MGR>
He's a brutal realistL1016[11:31:19] <MGR>
Your long conversation about immortality, free will, etc. irked
him
<MGR>
Your long conversation about immortality, free will, etc. irked
himL1017[11:31:25] <Michiyo> \o/ I found a
guy that'll look at my moms Motorcycle for a decent price
L1018[11:31:25] <Michiyo> :D
L1019[11:31:37] <Gavle> Nice!
L1020[11:31:45] <Inari> Why do you pay
people to look at motorcycles
L1021[11:31:48] <DeeJayh> I mean, it was
just a discussion of things, I never necessarily said anything was
true, we were just talking about it.
L1022[11:32:03] <Gavle> Yes
L1023[11:32:16] <Michiyo> Inari, it has
some mechanical issues, he's going to hopefully break the motor
loose, and tell me how much the transmission will cost to fix
L1024[11:32:32] <DeeJayh> Is it not
possible to discuss the possibilities of something that doesn't
exist? Because if that always bothers you, I have a feeling you
won't like 20% or so of my conversations
L1025[11:32:43] <DeeJayh> Sometimes I
even play devil's advocate in debate...
L1026[11:33:23] <DeeJayh> I just like to
discuss things and expand my mind, maybe get someone else's point
of view while explaining my own
L1027[11:33:27] <Gavle> That wasn't my
sticking point
L1028[11:33:27] <Forecaster> Why would you say things that
aren't true and not say that they aren't true
<Forecaster> Why would you say things that
aren't true and not say that they aren't trueL1029[11:33:31] <DeeJayh> I'm not really
an extremest in anything
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L1031[11:33:48] <DeeJayh> Perhaps you
should privately message me then
L1032[11:33:59] <DeeJayh> Because I'm not
here to bother anyone
L1033[11:34:08] <DeeJayh> Was just having
mildly intriguing conversation
L1034[11:34:12] <Gavle> I don't have much
to say
L1035[11:35:18] <Forecaster> I'm having mild yoghurt but
you don't hear me go on about it D:<
<Forecaster> I'm having mild yoghurt but
you don't hear me go on about it D:<L1036[11:35:27] <DeeJayh> Still like to
know what bothered you, if theres some concious effort I can make
not to do it again, that doesn't shit on my ability to have an open
conversation about anything, I'd be more than happy to make to
proper concessions
L1037[11:35:42] <DeeJayh> Forecaster, is
that how euros spell yogurt?
L1038[11:35:43] <Michiyo> gamax92, stats
are outdated..?
L1039[11:36:02] <gamax92> Michiyo: as in
they're only generated every hour or so :P
L1040[11:36:14] <Michiyo> Ah.. I checked
and saw todays date
L1041[11:36:16] <Michiyo> was
confuse.
L1042[11:36:16] <Michiyo> :P
L1043[11:36:18] <gamax92> sorry
L1044[11:37:05] <DeeJayh> Michiyo, good
luck on the motorcycle
L1045[11:37:08] <Michiyo> s'all
good
L1046[11:37:37] <Forecaster> it's how I spelled it just
then
<Forecaster> it's how I spelled it just
thenL1047[11:41:18] *
AshIndigo takes a spoonful of fores yogurt
L1048[11:44:23] <Michiyo> I don't have a
motorcycle endorsement on my DL.. and I can't use my moms cause...
the tags are from out of state, and expired... by 20 years.
L1049[11:44:36] <Michiyo> so even if I
get it running I can't really ride it :(
L1050[11:44:54] <Michiyo> I also don't
have a title :D
L1051[11:45:44] <Michiyo> can't use my
mom's bike to get one*
L1052[11:45:50] <Michiyo> wow I realized
how odd that sounded.
L1053[11:45:58] <Michiyo> I can't do the
test on her bike.. cause it's not legal
L1054[11:46:38] <Michiyo> here lemme walk
on in to the state police office, and get my endorsement on a bike
with 20 year expired tags, no title, and no proof of it being
mine.
L1055[11:46:59] <Michiyo> I'll see you
all in 10 years, when I get out of prison.
L1056[11:52:59] <Achai> I was so busy
bitching about the YouTube app on Android changing the scrolling
physics that I forgot to tell gamax92 something
L1057[11:53:05] <Achai> also should nick
change for a sec
L1058[11:53:07] ***
Achai is now known as ds84182
L1059[11:53:46] <ds84182> gamax92:
Remember a couple of years ago when I said something about taking
apart MySims Kingdom?
L1060[11:56:46] <gamax92> hmm,
kidna
L1061[11:56:59] <gamax92> kidna the
echnidna
L1062[11:57:07] <ds84182> heh :P
L1063[11:57:14] <gamax92> knuckles the
enchilada
L1064[11:57:31] <ds84182> I have code
execution in the game now
L1065[11:57:44] <ds84182> And I can say
that EA's Lua environment sucks
L1066[11:59:03] <gamax92> good job
L1067[11:59:50] <ds84182> It wouldn't
pass any of your test code
L1068[11:59:59] <gamax92> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L1069[12:00:03] <ds84182> The game
crashes if I try to compare two strings with lessthan
L1070[12:01:05] <gamax92> ds84182: ohh
uhh, what platform is this
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L1072[12:01:25] <ds84182> Wii
L1073[12:01:47] <ds84182> I always forget
the DS version exists
L1074[12:01:52] <ds84182> but the DS
version is trash anyways
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L1082[12:23:23] <hollow_phone> o/ I'm
back lol, here on my server, got the program all setup and
downloaded but the instructions tell to to type in "open
/etc/draconic_controll" but when I do that it says file not
found... an I supposed to put something in first to find the
file
L1083[12:24:12] <MGR> I
don't think you type in "open"
<MGR> I
don't think you type in "open"L1084[12:24:15] <MGR>
just the name of the file
<MGR>
just the name of the fileL1085[12:24:25] <hollow_phone> Ooh
L1086[12:25:19] <hollow_phone> Still says
file not found, it says I need to open it with the editor... is
that just the plain old console?
L1087[12:25:44] <Mimiru> 2 l's?
L1088[12:25:49] <Mimiru> control is
usually spelled with one.
L1089[12:25:58] <MGR>
I'm not sure without screenshots
<MGR>
I'm not sure without screenshotsL1090[12:26:09] <hollow_phone> Ugh, me
and my spelling. One sec
L1091[12:26:13] <Mimiru> or.. a link to
these "instructions"
L1092[12:27:24] <gamax92> https://tenyx.de/draconic_control/
L1093[12:27:32] <hollow_phone> Thank
you
L1094[12:27:54] <gamax92> "Open
/etc/draconic_control.cfg with the editor." does not mean type
"open /etc/draconic_controll"
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L1096[12:28:27] <hollow_phone> Oh
L1097[12:28:32] <hollow_phone> So what do
I type XD
L1098[12:28:35] <Mimiru> ...
L1099[12:28:36] <Mimiru> edit
L1100[12:28:38] <Mimiru> edit
filename
L1101[12:28:41] <Mimiru> edit
/etc/draconic_control.cfg
L1102[12:29:32] <hollow_phone> I thought
I did that... must of misspelled it again
L1103[12:31:31] <Kodos>
I am irrationally upset about thaumcraft
<Kodos>
I am irrationally upset about thaumcraftL1104[12:33:29] <hollow_phone> And how
it's not updated yet, I'll join you lol
L1105[12:34:49] <AshIndigo> hollow_phone:
https://www.reddit.com/r/feedthebeast/comments/6ctff8/looks_like_thaumcraft_is_going_in_indefinite/
L1106[12:35:20] <hollow_phone> I know
it's coming out it's just the waiting that's killing me
L1107[12:40:31] <hollow_phone> Oh I read
that wrong
L1108[12:40:37] <hollow_phone> That's
depressing
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L1111[12:51:11] <hollow_phone> Hey!!!! It
works!!!
L1112[12:51:16] <hollow_phone> Thanks for
your help
L1113[12:52:40] *
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L1115[12:58:38] <rashy> butts
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L1119[13:05:13] <gamax92> rashy:
dusty
L1120[13:05:18] <rashy> :o
L1121[13:05:35] <Vexatos> rashy!
L1122[13:05:40] <rashy> yello!
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L1124[13:14:03] <AshIndigo> blargh
windows just work
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somehow
L1126[13:15:53] <DeeJayh> @kodos
why?
L1127[13:16:07] <DeeJayh> I'm
irrationally upset that it hasn't been updated to 1.10 yet
L1128[13:16:24] <fingercomp> how to
prevent the sound card from repeating sound it has already played?
http://46.50.128.141/vid/soundglitch.mp3
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L1130[13:17:41] <Vexatos> Ask someone who
actually used this thing >_>
L1131[13:18:15] <Vexatos> fingercomp,
sending a sound packet twice should only ever happen on a really
bad connection so no idea :I
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L1133[13:18:41] <asie> fingercomp: are
you playing music with a sound card
L1134[13:18:58] <fingercomp> asie:
yes
L1135[13:19:05] <asie> interesting
L1136[13:19:09] <asie> why not just use a
tape drive? :-)
L1137[13:19:28] <fingercomp> not
fun
L1138[13:19:44] <fingercomp> it also
sounds horrible
L1139[13:19:53] <Vexatos> asie, haven't
you seen synth >_>
L1140[13:19:53] <gamax92> sounds better
than that
L1141[13:20:23] <asie> Vexatos: i
haven't
L1142[13:20:25] <asie> gamax92: i
haven't
L1143[13:20:39] <Vexatos> fingercomp,
quick, get those screenshots D:
L1144[13:20:59] <fingercomp> gamax92:
that's because the sound card has only 8 channels
L1145[13:21:14] <Vexatos> asie, some are
at http://computercraft.ru/blog/3/entry-575-sound-card-zvukovye-volny-moduliatciia/
L1146[13:21:25] <Vexatos> fingercomp,
there's a config option for that :P
L1147[13:21:30] <asie> neat
L1148[13:21:35] <Vexatos> asie, https://github.com/OpenPrograms/Fingercomp-Programs/tree/master/synth
L1149[13:21:39] <Vexatos> a better
screenshot in that readme
L1150[13:21:44] <asie> Vexatos: by the
way
L1151[13:21:47] <asie> i started working
on Charset again
L1152[13:21:49] <asie> just a bit
L1153[13:21:58] <Vexatos> a
charsubset?
L1154[13:22:00] <asie> yeah
L1155[13:22:03] <asie> a substring.
L1156[13:22:03] <Vexatos> k
L1157[13:22:22] <fingercomp> Vexatos:
well, I'm playing on a server
L1158[13:22:33] <Vexatos> fingercomp, no,
I mean really really bad connection
L1159[13:22:45] <Vexatos> as in 8 TPS and
500ms ping
L1160[13:22:58] <Vexatos> Sound card
packets should never repeat at all
L1161[13:23:02] <Vexatos> Unless the
server derps
L1162[13:23:07] <Vexatos> they are only
ever sent once
L1163[13:23:11] <Vexatos> and processed
on the client
L1164[13:23:35] <AshIndigo> come on work
update!
L1165[13:24:12] <Vexatos> also
fingercomp, you might actually want to increase the sound card
channel count in the configs. 8 was just a value that I thought was
sane, it is in no way better than any other
L1166[13:24:19] <Vexatos> Cruor set it to
like 65536
L1167[13:24:33] <fingercomp> I can't,
because, as I said, I'm playing on a server
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L1169[13:24:42] <Vexatos> well, tell your
adming >_>
L1170[13:24:43] <Cruor> Vexatos: i set it
to like 32
L1171[13:24:44] <Vexatos> admin*
L1172[13:24:45] <Cruor> and *POOF*
L1173[13:24:50] <Vexatos> Cruor,
magic
L1174[13:24:55] <Cruor> yea, it broke my
stuff D:
L1175[13:24:57] <Cruor> so i set it back
to 8
L1176[13:25:00] <Vexatos> >_>
L1177[13:25:03] <Vexatos> fix your
programs
L1178[13:25:39] <fingercomp> Vexatos:
that's not an option for me (for reasons)
L1179[13:26:09] <fingercomp> only if the
channel count is increased in the default configuration
L1180[13:26:20] <Vexatos> welp
L1181[13:26:27] <Vexatos> nothing I can
do about that >_>
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L1183[13:31:14] <fingercomp> I've made my
program call sound.process every tick, sounds much better now. But
I don't think it should glitch if I call the function more
often.
L1184[13:33:50] <gamax92> it doesn't do
anything if there's nothing to process ...
L1185[13:34:10] <gamax92> I call it in a
while loop without glitches
L1186[13:36:34] <fingercomp> https://github.com/OpenPrograms/Fingercomp-Programs/blob/master/ffp/ffp.lua
lines 151-171
L1187[13:37:36] <Vexatos> If you call
process once it should also only play the stuff once
L1188[13:37:56] <Vexatos> apart from
that?
L1189[13:38:21] <Vexatos> no, calling
process() once empties the queue immediately
L1190[13:41:00] <fingercomp> so what do I
need to change to remove glitches?
L1191[13:41:31] <Vexatos> good
question
L1192[13:41:36] <Vexatos> I don't see
what's wrong
L1193[13:41:39] <Vexatos> gamax92, help
>_>
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L1195[13:43:52] <gamax92> I dunno, same
thing I do
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L1197[13:44:20] <gamax92> fingercomp:
Though I have a sound card library to automatically call process if
something overflows the queue
L1198[13:44:52] <payonel> o/
L1199[13:45:42] <gamax92> though you're
only doing like, 16*7 instructions per block?
L1200[13:46:01] <Vexatos> I wonder what
that weird-looking for loop is for
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L1202[13:46:51] <Vexatos> why a step size
of 16 ._.
L1203[13:46:59] <Vexatos> or did I forget
how to Lua :I
L1204[13:47:29] <Vexatos> hm
L1205[13:47:36] <Vexatos> oh that's the
packet size
L1206[13:47:39] <Vexatos> >_>
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L1211[13:51:53] <fingercomp> 57
instructions per cycle, 32 cycles per second
L1212[13:53:28] <gamax92> %lua
1000/32
L1213[13:53:28] <MichiBot> 31.25
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L1218[14:22:14] <AshIndigo> lets hope
this new serial cable doesnt bsod my computer
L1219[14:22:48] *
Michiyo bsods the serial cable instead
L1220[14:23:43] <Corded> * <20kdc>
gives AshIndigo a kernel panic
L1221[14:23:48] <20kdc>
ok, you avoided the BSOD
<20kdc>
ok, you avoided the BSODL1222[14:24:01] *
AshIndigo panics
L1223[14:24:08] <Michiyo> AT THE
DISCO
L1224[14:26:59] <Michiyo> ♫ ?
L1225[14:27:01] <Michiyo> :p
L1226[14:27:13] <gamax92> ♫ !
L1227[14:27:41] <20kdc>
only one ♫? will get boring pretty fast...
<20kdc>
only one ♫? will get boring pretty fast...L1228[14:28:11] <vifino> My 8x4 font does
not like that symbol.
L1229[14:34:13] <payonel> vifino o/
L1230[14:34:21] <payonel> what is going
to be your first vt100 test project?
L1231[14:34:31] <payonel> i'd like to
start working on that this weekend
L1232[14:35:42] <payonel> Inari: https://media.giphy.com/media/FJLGW9oQLmUEM/giphy.gif
L1233[14:36:30] <Pwootage> heh I could add debugger support
to oc-js if I really wanted, but it'd probably be slow
<Pwootage> heh I could add debugger support
to oc-js if I really wanted, but it'd probably be slowL1234[14:36:43] <Pwootage> heh I could add debugger support
to oc-js if I really wanted, but it'd probably be slower at
runtime
<Pwootage> heh I could add debugger support
to oc-js if I really wanted, but it'd probably be slower at
runtimeL1235[14:36:57] <Pwootage> argh I keep forgetting editing
messages = bad in IRC bridge
<Pwootage> argh I keep forgetting editing
messages = bad in IRC bridgeL1236[14:37:10] *
payonel slaps pwootage with a tuna
L1237[14:37:54] <Michiyo> well.. if I
could ever figure out how I'm supposed to implement "better
editing" I'd do it :P
L1238[14:38:03] <gamax92> simple
L1239[14:39:53] <Pwootage> Oh man, debugging one oc-js
computer from another oc-js computer, that would be sweet
<Pwootage> Oh man, debugging one oc-js
computer from another oc-js computer, that would be sweetL1240[14:42:38] <gamax92> payonel: lets
just ship a cpu emulator and a native lua binary
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L1242[14:47:46] <Pwootage> Man, I actually want to
implement that now... I mean, after it's initially working, of
course
<Pwootage> Man, I actually want to
implement that now... I mean, after it's initially working, of
courseL1243[14:50:42] <gamax92> payonel: death
to luaj
L1244[14:51:43] <Michiyo> gamax92, I know
how to compare the strings, I'm just not seeing a *decent* way to
show the changes. like if they add a word in the middle of a
message... how do I show that?
L1245[14:51:54] <20kdc>
gamax92: *holds up flaming torch*
<20kdc>
gamax92: *holds up flaming torch*L1246[14:52:38] <payonel> gamax92:
:)
L1247[14:54:07] <Corded> * <20kdc>
hands the torch to gamax92
L1248[14:55:24] <20kdc>
gamax92: Yromematem eht fo ecaps eht otni wonk ew taht lla fo
gnikael eht fo dne eht yb detneverp eb llahs syad fo dne eht.
<20kdc>
gamax92: Yromematem eht fo ecaps eht otni wonk ew taht lla fo
gnikael eht fo dne eht yb detneverp eb llahs syad fo dne eht.L1249[14:55:43] <Corded> * <20kdc>
disappears in a puff of smoke.
L1250[14:56:08] <Michiyo> %reverse
Yromematem eht fo ecaps eht otni wonk ew taht lla fo gnikael eht fo
dne eht yb detneverp eb llahs syad fo dne eht
L1251[14:56:10] <MichiBot> Michiyo: the
end of days shall be prevented by the end of the leaking of all
that we know into the space of the metamemorY
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L1255[14:59:29] <Vasuvo> Hello.
L1256[14:59:33] <gamax92> Goodbye.
L1257[14:59:56] <gamax92> payonel: mips
maybe?
L1258[15:00:28] <gamax92> unless there's
a C -> jvm compiler
L1259[15:00:29] *
AshIndigo shines a laser at the ground
L1260[15:00:31] <gamax92> o.o
L1261[15:00:39] <20kdc>
gamax92: ZPU!
<20kdc>
gamax92: ZPU!L1262[15:00:44] <20kdc>
vifino, ping.
<20kdc>
vifino, ping.L1263[15:00:52] <gamax92> ping,
ping
L1264[15:00:55] <Pwootage> <-- wrote a openrisc emulator
for OC that actually worked
<Pwootage> <-- wrote a openrisc emulator
for OC that actually workedL1265[15:01:04] <gamax92> release as
architecture
L1266[15:01:18] <Pwootage> It's on github, but was hacky
and the compilers sucked
<Pwootage> It's on github, but was hacky
and the compilers suckedL1267[15:01:27] <20kdc>
Pwootage: define "hacky"
<20kdc>
Pwootage: define "hacky"L1268[15:01:43] <20kdc>
like, if you only support some subset, that's fine so long as it's
a *defined* subset
<20kdc>
like, if you only support some subset, that's fine so long as it's
a *defined* subsetL1269[15:01:52] <Pwootage> Unfinished and missing some
critical features like an MMU
<Pwootage> Unfinished and missing some
critical features like an MMUL1270[15:01:57] <20kdc>
"MMU" "critical"
<20kdc>
"MMU" "critical"L1271[15:01:58] <Pwootage> it was mostly compiling that
sucked
<Pwootage> it was mostly compiling that
suckedL1272[15:02:16] <Pwootage> I mean, half the purpose was to
get linux to compile to it, which I gave up on :p
<Pwootage> I mean, half the purpose was to
get linux to compile to it, which I gave up on :pL1273[15:02:26] <20kdc>
advice: start with uClinux or something
<20kdc>
advice: start with uClinux or somethingL1274[15:02:29] <20kdc>
something MMU-less
<20kdc>
something MMU-lessL1275[15:02:50] <Pwootage> I could probably write a basic
arm emulator at this point, but oc-js is higher on my list right
now
<Pwootage> I could probably write a basic
arm emulator at this point, but oc-js is higher on my list right
nowL1276[15:03:13] <Pwootage> Or find an easy-enough to
integrate one written in c or c++
<Pwootage> Or find an easy-enough to
integrate one written in c or c++L1277[15:04:07]
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L1278[15:04:07] <Pwootage> if anyone finds a reasonably
designed/configurable ARM emulator written in something callable
from java or C++ let me know :p
<Pwootage> if anyone finds a reasonably
designed/configurable ARM emulator written in something callable
from java or C++ let me know :pL1279[15:04:54] <vifino> @20kdc:
Yeees?
L1280[15:05:13] <vifino> payonel: running
CP/M.
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L1282[15:05:57] <20kdc>
vifino: <gamax92> payonel: lets just ship a cpu emulator and
a native lua binary
<20kdc>
vifino: <gamax92> payonel: lets just ship a cpu emulator and
a native lua binaryL1283[15:06:08] <20kdc>
are you thinking "ZPU"? because I'm thinking
"ZPU".
<20kdc>
are you thinking "ZPU"? because I'm thinking
"ZPU".L1284[15:06:09] <vifino> just needs
working read char, write string,
get-available-bytes-on-input-buffer functions, payonel.
L1285[15:06:21] <vifino> @20kdc: oh god.
that sounds horrifyingly great.
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L1287[15:06:46] <20kdc>
maybe just bring it full circle. Lua on ZPU on OCLua.
<20kdc>
maybe just bring it full circle. Lua on ZPU on OCLua.L1288[15:07:05] <Pwootage> What's ZPU?
<Pwootage> What's ZPU?L1289[15:07:14] <vifino> I"m sure
rose (my newest ZPU emulator/other emulators sooon) can be brought
to do such a thing.
L1291[15:07:34] <vifino> Just needs
working emulates, for which I've been way too lazy.
L1292[15:07:42] <20kdc>
There is an (outdated, but functional) GCC toolchain for it.
<20kdc>
There is an (outdated, but functional) GCC toolchain for it.L1293[15:08:25] <20kdc>
(The standard library for said toolchain includes software
implementations of the EMULATEs, but ofc you have to deal with the
C standard library's licensing in that case.)
<20kdc>
(The standard library for said toolchain includes software
implementations of the EMULATEs, but ofc you have to deal with the
C standard library's licensing in that case.)L1294[15:08:29] <vifino> pwootage: I
wrote an Intel 8080 emulator and a ZPU emulator in Lua, both run on
OC.
L1295[15:08:52] <Pwootage> Neat!
<Pwootage> Neat!L1296[15:09:05] <Pwootage> ZPU looks really simple
<Pwootage> ZPU looks really simpleL1297[15:09:09] <vifino> Full disclosure:
The ZPU emulator was initially written by @20kdc.
L1298[15:09:46] <20kdc>
Basically, I found out about ZPU, noticed it was simple to emulate
and that it runs C. It wasn't exactly a hard decision.
<20kdc>
Basically, I found out about ZPU, noticed it was simple to emulate
and that it runs C. It wasn't exactly a hard decision.L1299[15:11:13] <Pwootage> I mean, duktape will run
emscripten (albeit not very optimally)
<Pwootage> I mean, duktape will run
emscripten (albeit not very optimally)L1300[15:11:26] <vifino> That sounds
terrible.
L1301[15:12:36] <vifino> @20kdc: Speaking
of uCLinux, I wonder if I can make my new ZPU emu run it...
L1302[15:12:43] <vifino> Or the Lua one,
for that matter.
L1303[15:12:47] <AmandaC> what about
C++?
L1304[15:12:59] <vifino> Should
work.
L1305[15:13:03] <Pwootage> C++ is mostly just C with a
bigger footprint
<Pwootage> C++ is mostly just C with a
bigger footprintL1306[15:13:18] <AmandaC> that doesn't
nessarially mean that the compilers exist. :P
L1307[15:13:18] <Skye> what about a 68k
/half-joke
L1308[15:13:30] <vifino> Never tried to
run C++ code on a ZPU...
L1309[15:13:33] <Skye> If it runs GCC
it's probably got C++?
L1310[15:13:39] <AmandaC> indeed.
L1311[15:13:41] <Skye> might not work
well, but GCC does have C++
L1312[15:13:59] <Pwootage> llvm has a c89 target
backend
<Pwootage> llvm has a c89 target
backendL1313[15:14:01] <20kdc>
AmandaC: Good news, it does do C++, but keep in mind this is an old
version of GCC, and you will end up bundling the C++ standard
libraries, so have fun with licensing.
<20kdc>
AmandaC: Good news, it does do C++, but keep in mind this is an old
version of GCC, and you will end up bundling the C++ standard
libraries, so have fun with licensing.L1314[15:14:09] <AmandaC> :P
L1315[15:14:10] <20kdc>
Pwootage: not anymore, IIRC
<20kdc>
Pwootage: not anymore, IIRCL1316[15:14:29] <Skye> @20kdc, you know
that stdlibs are excempt from some of the GPL
L1317[15:14:29] <20kdc>
Pwootage: though who knows, maybe it's just not compiled into the
standard distribution anymore
<20kdc>
Pwootage: though who knows, maybe it's just not compiled into the
standard distribution anymoreL1318[15:14:41] <vifino> There have been
projects trying to get the C backend back, though.
L1319[15:14:58] <20kdc>
Skye: *System* stdlibs, and it's a one-way thing. Proprietary
stdlib etc.
<20kdc>
Skye: *System* stdlibs, and it's a one-way thing. Proprietary
stdlib etc.L1320[15:15:10] <vifino> Oh, @20kdc, next
time you get bored, make a ZPU target for LLVM. :)
L1321[15:15:42] <Skye> write a simple
system and "dynamic" loader
L1322[15:16:08] <20kdc>
Skye: You are ignoring the "one-way thing" part.
<20kdc>
Skye: You are ignoring the "one-way thing" part.L1323[15:16:19] <Pwootage> (I tried to make an LLVM backend
for an ISA I created, but I got lost and couldn't get it
working)
<Pwootage> (I tried to make an LLVM backend
for an ISA I created, but I got lost and couldn't get it
working)L1324[15:16:32] <20kdc>
It's meant to cover a GPL'd *application* using a proprietary
*stdlib*.
<20kdc>
It's meant to cover a GPL'd *application* using a proprietary
*stdlib*.L1325[15:16:56] <Skye> @20kdc then why
can we run non-GPL programs on linux
L1326[15:17:09] <Skye> why do people use
mingw for proprietary software
L1327[15:17:15] <20kdc>
Good point. Let me check what license the standard library is
on.
<20kdc>
Good point. Let me check what license the standard library is
on.L1328[15:17:28] <20kdc>
If it's LGPL, then that would make sense...
<20kdc>
If it's LGPL, then that would make sense...L1329[15:17:45] <Skye> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/11693320/linking-glibc-statically-and-proprietary-software-licensing
L1330[15:17:46] <20kdc>
...or if I was wrong and the proprietary clause *isn't* one way
(though that makes no sense given the whole *point* of the
thing)
<20kdc>
...or if I was wrong and the proprietary clause *isn't* one way
(though that makes no sense given the whole *point* of the
thing)L1331[15:17:59] <20kdc>
Well, that explains it. LGPL.
<20kdc>
Well, that explains it. LGPL.L1332[15:18:10] <Pwootage> Reportedly llvm has a web
assembly backend, I wonder how complex a webassembly VM would be to
write
<Pwootage> Reportedly llvm has a web
assembly backend, I wonder how complex a webassembly VM would be to
writeL1333[15:18:40] <20kdc>
Pwootage: I'm thinking "webassembly -> ZPU
translation"
<20kdc>
Pwootage: I'm thinking "webassembly -> ZPU
translation"L1334[15:18:44] <vifino> @Pwootage: you
still need JS for webassembly to be a thing, iirc
L1335[15:18:48] <vifino> 20kdc: Do
it.
L1336[15:18:53] <payonel> vifino: read
char and get-available-bytes is going to require a medium raw mode
on tty
L1337[15:18:57] <20kdc>
vifino: maybe?
<20kdc>
vifino: maybe?L1338[15:18:59] <Pwootage> "...Non-Web environments
may include JavaScript VMs (e.g. node.js), however WebAssembly is
also being designed to be capable of being executed without a
JavaScript VM present...."
<Pwootage> "...Non-Web environments
may include JavaScript VMs (e.g. node.js), however WebAssembly is
also being designed to be capable of being executed without a
JavaScript VM present...."L1339[15:19:10] <vifino> payonel:
ineeeeeedeeeeet
L1340[15:19:12] <20kdc>
vifino: would need to verify that I could sufficiently bend the
rules of physics in WA first
<20kdc>
vifino: would need to verify that I could sufficiently bend the
rules of physics in WA firstL1341[15:19:14] <Pwootage> Supposedly it should be
doable
<Pwootage> Supposedly it should be
doableL1342[15:19:18] <Pwootage> Might have to look into
that
<Pwootage> Might have to look into
thatL1343[15:19:39] <20kdc>
vifino: like, "does WebAssembly use memory images" might
be a good start
<20kdc>
vifino: like, "does WebAssembly use memory images" might
be a good startL1344[15:19:51] <payonel> vifino: the
first thing i thought you were going to want to use was ansi escape
codes for writes
L1345[15:19:51] <vifino> @Pwootage: Dunno
if it is actually doable, not only in theory.
L1346[15:20:02] <payonel> medium raw mode
though, i can work on that
L1347[15:20:11] <vifino> payonel: i need
all the things!
L1348[15:20:12] <gamax92> vifino: but
this is just to have a native lua library compiled for something
emulatable
L1349[15:20:14] <Pwootage> vifino: yeah I'd have to
actually look into it and find out
<Pwootage> vifino: yeah I'd have to
actually look into it and find outL1350[15:20:33] <payonel> vifino: i was
also hoping your first project would be a new editor :)
L1351[15:20:36] <gamax92> you'd run into
issues like reinventing libc
L1352[15:20:39] <vifino> semi-cooked mode
should be fine for playing Zork.
L1353[15:20:51] <vifino> You do need raw
mode for WORDSTAR, though.
L1354[15:20:58] <vifino> You definitly
want WORDSTAR.
L1355[15:21:03] <vifino> Or
WORDMASTER.
L1356[15:21:03] <gamax92> vifino
L1357[15:21:20] <vifino> gamax92
L1358[15:21:49] <vifino> gamax92: well i
dunno. having a non-native emulator would be really slow.
L1359[15:22:03] <vifino> so you can
completely forget my Lua emulator.
L1360[15:22:33] <vifino> My rust one is
quite decently speedy, easily 10x the performance of the lua one in
luajit.
L1361[15:23:04] <vifino> But since the
point is to have a "native" binary where no binary
exists...
L1362[15:23:07] <vifino> Tricky.
L1363[15:23:10] <20kdc>
F A S T (did I do the capital-space thing right)
<20kdc>
F A S T (did I do the capital-space thing right)L1364[15:23:19] <vifino> Probably.
L1365[15:23:20] <gamax92> it has to be
written in java ...
L1366[15:23:29] <vifino> Not gonna be me.
:X
L1367[15:24:14] <gamax92> rust and lua
doesn't help us here
L1368[15:24:54] <Pwootage> https://github.com/llvm-mirror/llvm/blob/master/include/llvm/ADT/Triple.h#L49-L97
<Pwootage> https://github.com/llvm-mirror/llvm/blob/master/include/llvm/ADT/Triple.h#L49-L97L1369[15:25:09] <20kdc>
A Java ZPU emulator is quite doable. Though I'd kind of have to be
*very* careful about sign.
<20kdc>
A Java ZPU emulator is quite doable. Though I'd kind of have to be
*very* careful about sign.L1370[15:25:20] <Pwootage> You can call rust through jni
just fine, I'm sure
<Pwootage> You can call rust through jni
just fine, I'm sureL1371[15:25:33] <vifino> @Pwootage:
That's not the point.
L1372[15:25:36] <payonel> vifino: the
tricky part is that in real world all key signals occur on a tty,
and window-managed tty is pumping that into ptys or window
events
L1373[15:25:51] <payonel> but in openos,
you're disconnected from the tty until you call read
L1374[15:26:14] <vifino> payonel: can't
help you there, just know that once you figure it out, it'll be
hella awesome #
L1375[15:26:20] <vifino> <3*
L1376[15:26:31] *
vifino something something fingers
L1377[15:26:46] <Pwootage> So yeah, LLVM has a lot of
backends now apparently
<Pwootage> So yeah, LLVM has a lot of
backends now apparentlyL1378[15:27:12]
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L1379[15:27:24] <20kdc>
WebAssembly AFAIK is the most translatable one, because it's
*meant* to be the most translatable one.
<20kdc>
WebAssembly AFAIK is the most translatable one, because it's
*meant* to be the most translatable one.L1380[15:27:50] <vifino> Doooo it.
L1381[15:28:21] <AmandaC> I hear it's
based off inari's favourite thing, too.
L1382[15:28:33] <20kdc>
Unfortunately, WebAssembly has floating-point support.
<20kdc>
Unfortunately, WebAssembly has floating-point support.L1383[15:28:37] <Michiyo> pure liquid
lewdness?
L1384[15:28:44] <AmandaC> Michiyo:
S-Expressions
L1385[15:28:46] <Inari> AmandaC: What
is?
L1386[15:28:48] <vifino> I'm not sure
wasm is based off of sex toys/tentacles.
L1387[15:28:49] <Inari> Oh
L1388[15:28:49] <Inari> :p
L1389[15:29:40] <Pwootage> Floating point isn't a huge
deal
<Pwootage> Floating point isn't a huge
dealL1390[15:29:41] <Skye> (you (mean (like
(this))))
L1391[15:30:00] <20kdc>
Pwootage: you mean apart from the fact the ZPU has (for
ease-of-implementation I'm guessing) no floating point unit
<20kdc>
Pwootage: you mean apart from the fact the ZPU has (for
ease-of-implementation I'm guessing) no floating point unitL1392[15:30:33] <vifino> Nobody needs
floats.
L1393[15:30:42] <20kdc>
*Lua* might.
<20kdc>
*Lua* might.L1394[15:30:48] <vifino> Shh.
L1395[15:31:02] <AmandaC> [ a baby in a
deflated raft sitting at the bottom of a pool disagrees with vifino
]
L1396[15:31:06] <gamax92> %flip
athena
L1397[15:31:07] <MichiBot> gamax92:
(╯°□°）╯ɐuǝɥʇɐ
L1398[15:31:20] <vifino> AmandaC:
:V
L1399[15:31:20] <Inari> %flip
ajfdksl;
L1400[15:31:22] <MichiBot> Inari:
(╯°□°）╯;lsʞpɟɾɐ
L1401[15:31:37] <gamax92> Michiyo: load
on athena was high again, lagged out the irc connection
heavily
L1402[15:31:51] <vifino> Only babbies
need floats.
L1403[15:31:52] <vifino> Fixed.
L1404[15:32:07] <gamax92> oh, zpu has no
floating point?
L1405[15:32:14] <gamax92> well then can't
use that.
L1406[15:32:16] <AmandaC> :P
L1407[15:32:56] *
Michiyo shrugs
L1408[15:33:01] <Michiyo> IDK, I've
disabled what I can.
L1409[15:33:05] <vifino> Compile Lua to
use ints only!
L1410[15:33:12] <gamax92> break a lot of
things
L1411[15:33:12] <Skye> then half of
everything will break
L1412[15:33:23] <gamax92> 95%
L1413[15:33:25] <Skye> maybe it will be
good enough with fixed point
L1414[15:33:47] <vifino> Well, my Lua ZPU
emulator might work. ;)
L1415[15:34:28] <gamax92> what, are we
going to run native lua on top of a lua based zpu emulator on top
of luaj?
L1416[15:34:39] <20kdc>
that would be an awful idea
<20kdc>
that would be an awful ideaL1417[15:34:41] <Skye> say there was a
fixed point instead of floating point, if you got that to work,
will less things break?
L1418[15:35:01] <20kdc>
Skye: The solution would be to write and use floating-point
emulation routines.
<20kdc>
Skye: The solution would be to write and use floating-point
emulation routines.L1419[15:35:19] <vifino> ^
L1420[15:35:28] <vifino> Not sure if GCC
doesn't already does so.
L1421[15:35:46] <vifino> softfloats and
what not.
L1422[15:35:53] <20kdc>
GCC *has* them, but in a WebAssembly translation?
<20kdc>
GCC *has* them, but in a WebAssembly translation?L1423[15:36:01] <20kdc>
It'll use the WebAssembly primitives.
<20kdc>
It'll use the WebAssembly primitives.L1424[15:36:02] *
vifino shrugs
L1425[15:36:14] <20kdc>
(Well, Clang will. GCC won't be part of the system anyway.)
<20kdc>
(Well, Clang will. GCC won't be part of the system anyway.)L1426[15:37:48] <gamax92> lljvm
L1427[15:38:50] <gamax92> there's also
cibyl that I haven't tried yet, another form of the old style
something -> MIPS -> JVM
L1428[15:39:01] <gamax92> I wasn't ever
able to get NestedVM to work
L1429[15:40:36] <Pwootage> I'm definitely going to have to
look into webassembly as an OC architecture
<Pwootage> I'm definitely going to have to
look into webassembly as an OC architectureL1430[15:41:00] <Pwootage> Would be super easy to write an
emulator for, since you could probably get something working in a
web browser
<Pwootage> Would be super easy to write an
emulator for, since you could probably get something working in a
web browserL1431[15:41:14] <gamax92> pwootage: yeah
but what about lljvm
L1432[15:41:45] <20kdc>
lljvm explicitly mentions it needs an old version of Clang
<20kdc>
lljvm explicitly mentions it needs an old version of ClangL1433[15:41:53] <gamax92> well there's a
docker image
L1434[15:42:08] <20kdc>
also, what do you run on lljvm?
<20kdc>
also, what do you run on lljvm?L1435[15:42:08] <gamax92> and forks for
newer versions of llvm and clang
L1436[15:42:16] <Skye> isn't that because
LLVM constantly changes their API
L1437[15:42:19] <20kdc>
The C code directly input?
<20kdc>
The C code directly input?L1438[15:42:23] <20kdc>
Skye: yes
<20kdc>
Skye: yesL1439[15:42:31] <20kdc>
and now you know why I'm never writing an LLVM backend
<20kdc>
and now you know why I'm never writing an LLVM backendL1440[15:42:38] <20kdc>
(it's a game of cat & mouse with them)
<20kdc>
(it's a game of cat & mouse with them)L1441[15:43:04] <Skye> write a backwards
compatible LLVM wrapper
L1442[15:43:10] <20kdc>
...
<20kdc>
...L1443[15:43:32] <20kdc>
ok, sure, that makes total sense *they introduce new instructions
and change existing ones all the time, it would be a code
translation effort in itself*
<20kdc>
ok, sure, that makes total sense *they introduce new instructions
and change existing ones all the time, it would be a code
translation effort in itself*L1444[15:43:42] <gamax92> write an llvm
to llvm converter in llvm
L1445[15:43:56] <gamax92> whenever you
need to use the new llvm just run it through itself
L1446[15:44:44] <20kdc>
gamax92: also, what would be run on lljvm? The user's
program?
<20kdc>
gamax92: also, what would be run on lljvm? The user's
program?L1447[15:44:50] <gamax92> ...
L1448[15:45:04] <gamax92> m8 you know
what clang and llvm is right?
L1449[15:45:27] <gamax92> like instead of
C -> x86 you're doing C -> jvm
L1450[15:45:58] <20kdc>
Clang is a C/C++ compiler. LLVM is a complicated library that
allows you to manipulate a "machine-independent" bytecode
(which is also ridiculously complicated), and turn it into machine
code for a given platform.
<20kdc>
Clang is a C/C++ compiler. LLVM is a complicated library that
allows you to manipulate a "machine-independent" bytecode
(which is also ridiculously complicated), and turn it into machine
code for a given platform.L1451[15:46:13] <gamax92> so wtf kind of
question is that.
L1452[15:46:35] <AmandaC> clang is a
frontend to LLVM, not a seperate entity
L1453[15:46:38] <20kdc>
Very simple. You established Rust is not an option for
portability.
<20kdc>
Very simple. You established Rust is not an option for
portability.L1454[15:46:51] <gamax92> because it has
to run with OC ... which runs on the JVM.
L1455[15:47:02] <20kdc>
Have you seen the lljvm source code?
<20kdc>
Have you seen the lljvm source code?L1456[15:47:11] <gamax92> yes
L1457[15:47:13] <gamax92> I've also used
it before
L1458[15:47:33] <20kdc>
It contains a C++ program in it to do the translation.
<20kdc>
It contains a C++ program in it to do the translation.L1459[15:47:38] <gamax92>
aaaaaaaaand?
L1460[15:47:43] <20kdc>
What are you going to do, run Clang and LLVM in LLJVM?
<20kdc>
What are you going to do, run Clang and LLVM in LLJVM?L1461[15:47:46] <gamax92> no.
L1462[15:47:52] <gamax92> Compile Lua
using lljvm to a jar.
L1463[15:48:23] <20kdc>
...see, this is why I asked if you were going to translate the
user's program
<20kdc>
...see, this is why I asked if you were going to translate the
user's programL1464[15:48:35] <20kdc>
as opposed to something else, like a one-time thing such as the Lua
binary.
<20kdc>
as opposed to something else, like a one-time thing such as the Lua
binary.L1465[15:48:42] <gamax92> I don't even
know what that means
L1466[15:49:04] <gamax92> we've been
talking about using lua for that past like hour
L1467[15:49:05] <20kdc>
"user's program" as in "arbitrary programs written
by Minecraft players".
<20kdc>
"user's program" as in "arbitrary programs written
by Minecraft players".L1468[15:49:17] <20kdc>
Ok, so this is *just* to translate a Lua binary? Without any
flexibility?
<20kdc>
Ok, so this is *just* to translate a Lua binary? Without any
flexibility?L1469[15:49:30] <Skye> basically a LuaJ
replacement
L1470[15:49:40] <gamax92> yes, like we've
been talking about for the past hour
L1471[15:49:42] <gamax92> replacing
LuaJ
L1472[15:50:34] <20kdc>
(...I was just wondering what the point was of emulating flexible
CPU architectures is if the code is set in stone. I guess LLJVM
does resolve that.)
<20kdc>
(...I was just wondering what the point was of emulating flexible
CPU architectures is if the code is set in stone. I guess LLJVM
does resolve that.)L1473[15:51:05] <gamax92> to run a lua
library
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L1475[16:01:47] <gamax92> @20kdc the jvm
is also technically a flexable achitecture so.
L1476[16:02:02] <MGR>
urk
<MGR>
urkL1477[16:02:08] <MGR>
Enemy nuked itself to try to kill me
<MGR>
Enemy nuked itself to try to kill meL1478[16:02:28] <MGR>
Took out everything but my dreadnought and a unit that lets me
teleport reinforcements to my army
<MGR>
Took out everything but my dreadnought and a unit that lets me
teleport reinforcements to my armyL1479[16:02:43] <MGR> As
expected, my army is now rapidly being replenished
<MGR> As
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L1482[16:11:14] <20kdc>
gamax92: It's not as "flexible" because 1. It doesn't
match my arbitrary ideal of being sort-of-real-CPU-like, and 2.
Compiling a new program into LLJVM is near-impossible at MC server
runtime due to the Java-only requirement.)
<20kdc>
gamax92: It's not as "flexible" because 1. It doesn't
match my arbitrary ideal of being sort-of-real-CPU-like, and 2.
Compiling a new program into LLJVM is near-impossible at MC server
runtime due to the Java-only requirement.)L1483[16:12:17] <Pwootage> gamax92: I had no idea lljvm
existed, to be honest. Also doesn't really do what I want.
<Pwootage> gamax92: I had no idea lljvm
existed, to be honest. Also doesn't really do what I want.L1484[16:12:24] <Pwootage> What's this about java-only
requirement?
<Pwootage> What's this about java-only
requirement?L1485[16:12:48] <20kdc>
Apparently the thing is to replace LuaJ, and any LuaJ replacement
must be as portable as LuaJ.
<20kdc>
Apparently the thing is to replace LuaJ, and any LuaJ replacement
must be as portable as LuaJ.L1486[16:12:54] <20kdc>
Meaning Java-only, 100%.
<20kdc>
Meaning Java-only, 100%.L1487[16:13:00] <Pwootage> Oh I see what you mean
<Pwootage> Oh I see what you meanL1488[16:13:18] <20kdc>
No JNI, no native code, because it would defeat the point.
<20kdc>
No JNI, no native code, because it would defeat the point.L1489[16:13:34] <Pwootage> Could always run it through
whatever webassembly thing I write, assuming I get that to work
properly ;P
<Pwootage> Could always run it through
whatever webassembly thing I write, assuming I get that to work
properly ;PL1490[16:14:07] <Pwootage> Although luajit won't run in
javaland because it generates native code directly I assume
<Pwootage> Although luajit won't run in
javaland because it generates native code directly I assumeL1491[16:14:29] <20kdc>
Yeah, that won't happen. Unless a LuaJIT ZPU backend comes
out.
<20kdc>
Yeah, that won't happen. Unless a LuaJIT ZPU backend comes
out.L1492[16:14:44] <gamax92> luajit on
ocmips
L1493[16:14:52] <gamax92> i think it has
a mips backend ...
L1494[16:14:55] <20kdc>
...that could work...
<20kdc>
...that could work...L1495[16:14:57] <Pwootage> I've always kinda wanted to
write a JIT tbh
<Pwootage> I've always kinda wanted to
write a JIT tbhL1496[16:15:10] <Pwootage> mips is pretty simple to parse
isn't it?
<Pwootage> mips is pretty simple to parse
isn't it?L1497[16:15:24] <gamax92> apparently, I
haven't looked at that myself though
L1498[16:15:28] <20kdc>
gamax92: Maybe make OCMIPS official, then use that to implement the
LuaJ replacement
<20kdc>
gamax92: Maybe make OCMIPS official, then use that to implement the
LuaJ replacementL1499[16:15:35] <gamax92> well that's on
GreaseMonkey
L1500[16:16:13] <gamax92> he's the one
who wrote potato.chocolate.mods.ebola.arch.mips
L1501[16:16:24] <20kdc>
....
<20kdc>
....L1502[16:16:30] <gamax92> https://github.com/iamgreaser/ocmips/tree/master/src/main/java/potato/chocolate/mods/ebola/arch/mips
L1503[16:17:10] <Pwootage> potato chocolate mods ebola arch
mips
<Pwootage> potato chocolate mods ebola arch
mipsL1504[16:17:11] <Pwootage> nice
<Pwootage> niceL1505[16:17:17] <Pwootage> good sequence of random
words
<Pwootage> good sequence of random
wordsL1506[16:17:23] <gamax92> my fault
...
L1507[16:17:31] <Corded> * <MGR>
just got nuked again
L1508[16:17:47] <gamax92> he was asking
what to name it, and I said you can name it anything, including
that
L1509[16:18:09] <20kdc>
MGR: did you try to take over Genericland again?
<20kdc>
MGR: did you try to take over Genericland again?L1510[16:18:30] <MGR>
@20kdc I'm playing Ashes of the Singularity
<MGR>
@20kdc I'm playing Ashes of the SingularityL1511[16:18:39] <MGR>
Apparently, the AI doesn't like it when you try to win
<MGR>
Apparently, the AI doesn't like it when you try to winL1512[16:20:23] <Pwootage> Mips looks pretty simple based
on what I'm seeing
<Pwootage> Mips looks pretty simple based
on what I'm seeingL1513[16:21:39] <20kdc>
MGR: funny that
<20kdc>
MGR: funny thatL1514[16:22:22] <MGR>
@20kdc The oddest thing is that my dreadnought and gateway survive,
so I can always rebuild my army fast-ish, although I'm waging a war
on two fronts now, so factory output is a bit of an issue
<MGR>
@20kdc The oddest thing is that my dreadnought and gateway survive,
so I can always rebuild my army fast-ish, although I'm waging a war
on two fronts now, so factory output is a bit of an issueL1515[16:24:52] <MGR>
NO!
<MGR>
NO!L1516[16:24:56] <MGR>
They got the gateway!
<MGR>
They got the gateway!L1517[16:24:58] <MGR>
Retreat!
<MGR>
Retreat!L1518[16:25:46] <vifino> pwootage: I want
to add a MIPS emu in my now-only-zpu multi emulator thing.
L1519[16:26:09] <vifino> But eh, I
haven't gotten all the docs I'd love to have.
L1520[16:27:35] <MGR>
@20kdc I'm in a bad way
<MGR>
@20kdc I'm in a bad wayL1521[16:29:36] <MGR>
And now it's food time
<MGR>
And now it's food timeL1522[16:29:43] <MGR>
This will be finished tomorrow
<MGR>
This will be finished tomorrowL1523[16:32:11]
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L1524[16:50:57] <AmandaC> @MGR is that
the game where you start on the moon and then it turns out the UN
lied about their first warp ship getting destroyed on it's first
warp.
L1525[16:51:08] <AmandaC> ( much later,
the warp thing, I mean )
L1526[16:55:16] <MGR>
AmandaC, no
<MGR>
AmandaC, noL1527[16:55:44] <MGR>
It's about humans that upload themselves to computers
<MGR>
It's about humans that upload themselves to computersL1528[16:55:50] <AmandaC> I see
L1529[16:55:54] <MGR>
And then they get into a war, obviously
<MGR>
And then they get into a war, obviouslyL1530[16:56:01] <AmandaC> well ofc
L1531[16:56:35] <MGR>
The AI exploited the near destruction of Army C by attacking. It
was very effective
<MGR>
The AI exploited the near destruction of Army C by attacking. It
was very effectiveL1532[16:59:31]
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L1533[17:04:29] <MGR> It
resulted in the total loss of an army, and a dreadnought, which are
expensive and take forever to replace
<MGR> It
resulted in the total loss of an army, and a dreadnought, which are
expensive and take forever to replaceL1534[17:04:44] <gamax92> AmandaC: what
game is that?
L1535[17:04:54] <MGR> If
they hit Army B, I could lose
<MGR> If
they hit Army B, I could loseL1536[17:04:59] <AmandaC> gamax92: I
don't recall
L1537[17:05:23] <AmandaC> ( the name of
it, anyway )_
L1538[17:06:03] <AmandaC> gamax92: Light
of Altair, apparentky
L1539[17:06:08] <AmandaC> ( I checked my
steam library )
L1540[17:06:14] <AmandaC> I think it's on
Linux, also
L1541[17:06:16] <gamax92> ahh windows ...
copying stuff to a flash drive, what's it do several times in the
middle of copying? lock up the computer.
L1542[17:06:32] <AmandaC> http://store.steampowered.com/app/34500/Light_of_Altair/
L1543[17:07:46] <AmandaC> I think I
stopped playing it because I lost my save file in a hdd crash
L1544[17:07:58] <AmandaC> and this was in
the Before Times, before steam added Steam Cloud
L1545[17:08:05] <gamax92> D:
L1546[17:08:35] <AmandaC> I think I got
the game from one of the early humble bundles, too
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L1549[17:19:22] <DeeJayh_> XDjackieXD,
what was the graphical target you mentioned earlier? if you can
remember?
L1550[17:20:35] <XDjackieXD> DeeJayh_:
the systemd default target. usually it is graphical.target on any
desktop system
L1551[17:20:59] <DeeJayh_> so
L1552[17:21:05] <DeeJayh_> After =
graphical.target
L1553[17:21:16] <DeeJayh_> rather
L1554[17:21:22] <DeeJayh_> After
graphical.target
L1555[17:22:02] <XDjackieXD>
wantedby=graphical.target
L1556[17:22:02] <XDjackieXD>
after=login-manager.service
L1557[17:22:54] <XDjackieXD>
*display-manager.service
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L1559[17:34:44] <payonel> %tell inari
http://i.imgur.com/6VnPcQb.gifv
L1560[17:34:44] <MichiBot> payonel: inari
will be notified of this message when next seen.
L1561[17:35:20] <XDjackieXD> dawww
:3
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L1563[17:42:57] <payonel> vifino:
poke
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L1567[17:50:00] <vifino> payonel:
peek?
L1568[17:50:40] <payonel> vifino: do you
think you could write up a prototype application that would utilize
vt100 in a way you'd expect it to work? prototype -- open for
discussion and change
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L1572[17:51:05] <payonel> i have ideas,
but -- i dont want to build into a solution that is unusable
L1573[17:51:23] <vifino> uuuuh
L1574[17:51:34] <payonel> maybe it
doesn't matter
L1575[17:51:44] <Skye>
Uh isn't VT100 like a fixed target
<Skye>
Uh isn't VT100 like a fixed targetL1576[17:51:52] <Skye>
Just get a VT torture test
<Skye>
Just get a VT torture testL1577[17:51:53] <payonel> Skye: the api
into tty
L1578[17:52:02] <payonel> i'm not talking
about the codes
L1579[17:52:02] <Skye>
Oh
<Skye>
OhL1580[17:52:45] <payonel> maybe there is
already some vt100-based application code written in lua i could
us
L1581[17:53:25] <vifino> i have maybe
some generated ascii art laying around
L1582[17:54:05] <vifino> but really, the
'interface' for those is io.write and io.read :P
L1583[17:54:35] <Skye>
Doesn't plan9k do some VT stuff?
<Skye>
Doesn't plan9k do some VT stuff?L1584[17:54:45] <vifino> it works exactly
like that.
L1585[17:55:21] <vifino> normal lua can't
check how many bytes are available, but there is a c function that
does. it also can't set raw/cooked mode.
L1586[17:55:28] <DeeJayh_> Plan9k doesn't
do anything at all
L1587[17:55:31] <DeeJayh_> it's busted
af
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L1589[17:55:58] <vifino> Uhm, no?
L1590[17:56:15] <Skye>
Try Lua 5.3
<Skye>
Try Lua 5.3L1591[17:57:08] <payonel> read and write
are the easy parts. my concern is the buffered stdin ... we only
"buffer" during read. there is no buffer waiting on read.
and to change that is a big deal
L1592[17:57:48] <Skye>
Would there need to be a buffer?
<Skye>
Would there need to be a buffer?L1593[17:57:51] <payonel> i'm excited to
make this change, of course! but i need to consider a lot of
existing workflows
L1594[17:57:59] <payonel> yes,
indeed
L1595[17:58:20] <Skye>
Normally when I press a key on a serial terminal it's sent to the
computer
<Skye>
Normally when I press a key on a serial terminal it's sent to the
computerL1596[17:58:52] <payonel> a real computer
buffers
L1597[17:58:54] <payonel> openos throws
it away
L1598[17:59:47] <Skye>
You mean if someone types a lot of junk when it's not
reading?
<Skye>
You mean if someone types a lot of junk when it's not
reading?L1599[18:19:35] <payonel> sorry work, i
was away
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L1601[18:23:27] <payonel> skye: yes,
that's one example. when your process is running and keycodes are
being sent, they are buffered on stdin of the current tty
L1602[18:23:49] <payonel> whether or not
you are blocking on read
L1603[18:24:28] <payonel> and in openos,
only term.read() is "buffering", there is no buffer when
not blocking on read
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L1605[18:30:24] <Skye>
Ah I see... Maybe it can be something configurable.
<Skye>
Ah I see... Maybe it can be something configurable.L1606[18:31:05] <Skye>
As a compromise I'd say have a buffer, but clear it whenever a
program starts and ends.
<Skye>
As a compromise I'd say have a buffer, but clear it whenever a
program starts and ends.L1607[18:33:08]
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L1610[18:52:18] <gamax92> rashy: you're
looking at the walls and you find something odd. tape. painted over
tape. you peel the tape back to discover a layer of purple
underneath ... who paints a room purple D:
L1611[18:54:55] <Mimiru> Hi
L1612[18:55:02] <Mimiru> Pink and
Purple.. :P
L1613[18:55:14] <Mimiru> Of course.. it
was for my oldest daughter, but yeah
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L1615[19:00:04] <Izaya> https://shadowkat.net/projects/multice/build-dev/
automated kernel builds are a thing now
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L1617[19:01:54] <AmandaC> purple might be
nice for my sister.
L1618[19:02:06] <Pwootage> ooo I could have some fun with
decorators/metadata in typescript if I wanted
<Pwootage> ooo I could have some fun with
decorators/metadata in typescript if I wantedL1619[19:02:21] <AmandaC> I like
red/blue, but I want to get some flower wallpaper, like was painted
over in the Long Long Ago in my room
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L1621[20:27:20] <S3> huh
L1622[20:27:38] <S3> if I do a
computer.pullSignal(0) will it return immediately if no signal is
in the queue?
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L1625[21:32:16] <S3> yep I can do
that
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L1627[21:49:24] <Antheus> ~markov
JoshTheEnder
L1628[21:49:24] <ocdoc> Please wait
...
L1629[21:49:27] <ocdoc> hmm, should i
make it quit how sad :( http://imgur.com/gallery/sMZZbzE
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L1633[22:18:16] <neptunepink> What's up
with plan9k? Like there are no man pages?
L1634[22:18:27] <neptunepink> Or, well,
man for that matter
L1635[22:19:30] <neptunepink> And lua,
edit are all unusable
L1636[22:19:46] <Mimiru> are you using
5.2, or 5.3?
L1637[22:21:17] <neptunepink> The lua
shell says 5.3. However my OpenOS computer says 5.2. I know it's a
hard-coded string on OpenOS at least...
L1638[22:21:32] <neptunepink> well lua
doesn't have tab completion
L1639[22:22:26] <Mimiru> Well.. the CPU
will tell you too
L1640[22:22:37] <Mimiru> and iirc sneak
click toggles it
L1641[22:24:16] <neptunepink> oh
L1642[22:27:17] <neptunepink> Well it was
5.3
L1643[22:27:53] <neptunepink> It keeps
resetting itself to 5.3.
L1644[22:29:07] <neptunepink> I'll try
re-installing.
L1645[22:29:25] <neptunepink> Nope, still
resets to 5.3.
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L1647[23:25:42] <BloodyRain2k> so as far
as BC gates are concerned is an empty steam tank not "<75%
steam"
L1648[23:26:21] <BloodyRain2k> as if the
need to invert the readouts because there's no >75% wasn't bad
enough, now it's even being stupid <.<
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L1651[23:35:10] <gamax92> neptunepink:
there's a function to switch the cpu's arcitecture and plan9k will
force it to be 5.3 on boot
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