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L1[00:00:49] <gamax92> "Good thing this is a gif" *not a gif*
L2[00:04:35] <BloodyRain2k> I am averaging, it starts a stopclock, technically, and compares how much more is in the tank since the beginning, then for each print it calculates the /sec from that
L3[00:05:08] <BloodyRain2k> and for some reason it was changing while it shouldn't have because it had already a sample size of a few thousand units over 2min
L4[00:05:39] <BloodyRain2k> but it was a small bouncing of 0.2 / sec
L5[00:06:32] <BloodyRain2k> it still confused me because it didn't make sense, it only went up until it got to the actual rate (22.5/s) and then it went 22.4 and 22.3 then back 22.4 and 22.5, and then again bounced down O.o
L6[00:10:30] <BloodyRain2k> damn the rainsensor of PR is annoying, all gates are placed facing away from you, well most atleast, but this fucker faces the input towards you
L7[00:10:51] <BloodyRain2k> the 7seg display was also like that I think, or that 16 button pad, one of them
L8[00:22:06] <BloodyRain2k> mhm, a song of an anime in german, I can't understand a single word of the lyrics even though I AM german
L9[00:22:31] <BloodyRain2k> maybe they shouldn't make songs in languages they don't understand, cause they won't know if they did it bad :x
L10[00:27:38] <Izaya> tfw you realise Minecraft has a built height limit and didn't before because Minetest has none
L11[00:27:51] <gamax92> minetest is bleh
L12[00:28:07] <Izaya> it's weird to transition back from
L13[00:29:29] <Izaya> also it's a pain that JEI doesn't do the item ID think NEI did
L14[00:29:39] <Izaya> I don't remember the number for spruce wood planks >.>
L15[00:30:29] <BloodyRain2k> 5:!
L16[00:30:32] <BloodyRain2k> *5:1
L17[00:30:44] <Izaya> yeah looked it up
L18[00:31:04] <BloodyRain2k> NEI on the other hand randomly throws all items on the floor when you try to batch move them from one container to another
L19[00:31:47] <Izaya> that's an ... odd bug
L20[00:31:57] <BloodyRain2k> it's not even new
L21[00:32:09] <BloodyRain2k> I've seen questions about how to fix that from 2014
L22[00:32:30] <Izaya> never run into it
L23[00:32:41] <BloodyRain2k> and it's still not fixed, for 1.7.10 atleast, no idea past that, maybe because the 1.8 versions seem to be done by other people
L24[00:32:42] <Izaya> though I guess what I did was hardly play at that point
L25[00:33:09] <BloodyRain2k> well, you won't encounter the bug unless you try to move all items of a type via shift+click
L26[00:33:19] <BloodyRain2k> that randomly drops ALL of them instead
L27[00:34:39] <BloodyRain2k> it's sad that PR has no active 1.7 support, there's a few bugs with the routing system that are annoying but won't get fixed for that version :<
L28[00:37:43] <Izaya> the item string names are even worse
L29[00:37:54] <Izaya> because they seem to just map to the first part of an item ID
L30[00:38:49] <BloodyRain2k> NTB blocks are even worse
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L32[01:24:14] <ade124> Great, fixed the modem
L33[01:24:22] <ade124> The optical fibre snapped or something
L34[01:26:39] <Izaya> ah how nice
L35[01:27:02] * Izaya wonders if his ADSL will be getting a downgrade when the NBN arrives
L36[01:27:45] <Izaya> the lowest tier is 12/1Mbps and we're not in Sydney so they don't give a shit so we'll probably go 24/3 to 12/1 because fuck everything
L37[01:28:42] <ade124> I have 1000/1000 in theory
L38[01:29:11] <ade124> In practice 400/400 in speedtest.net
L39[01:30:40] <ade124> And if I do ever use my VPS as a VPN (It's in singapore and I'm in HK, both have fast internet access and an uncensored internet, the SG government probably cares more about torrenting than ours and having a SG VPN doesn't really grant access to anything extra that I already have)
L40[01:31:15] <ade124> I'm probably downgrading to 100/100 to feel less bad since my VPS has 480 down in theory
L41[01:31:51] <asie> BloodyRain2k: i heard BC and shit in one sentence :O
L42[01:32:16] <BloodyRain2k> weird, considering how the item routing is consistently shit since ever
L43[01:32:24] <BloodyRain2k> atleast if you have more than one path
L44[01:33:21] <Izaya> TE is the real evil
L45[01:33:28] <BloodyRain2k> te?
L46[01:33:28] <Izaya> friendly reminder
L47[01:33:33] <Izaya> thermal expansion
L48[01:33:37] <BloodyRain2k> ah
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L50[01:33:40] <BloodyRain2k> and why?
L51[01:33:49] <Izaya> they fucked up the everything
L52[01:33:55] <BloodyRain2k> and how?
L53[01:34:06] <Izaya> once upon a time everything used BC power fairly sanely
L54[01:34:17] <Izaya> then we got RF which was more powerful
L55[01:34:22] <Izaya> and everything switched to that
L56[01:34:40] <Izaya> and now we have shit that outputs like a million RF/t for no good reason
L57[01:34:54] <Izaya> also their license is shitty
L58[01:36:11] <ade124> Interestingly in 1.11 buildcraft doesn't have the RF pipes and the IC2 EU cables connect to neither the power converter nor the computer
L59[01:37:00] <BloodyRain2k> well, the 4m RF cart in railcraft did seem OP to me, even though that was the first time I even saw RF
L60[01:37:25] <BloodyRain2k> I was considering getting TE, but only for the portable tanks, and that was it
L61[01:37:35] <BloodyRain2k> now I got MFR which has similar tanks so fuck TE xD
L62[01:38:02] <BloodyRain2k> MFRs only hold 4 buckets but whatever, they still stack to 64 if the amount in them matches up
L63[01:38:10] <BloodyRain2k> more than imba enough for my needs
L64[01:38:12] <Izaya> MFR annoys me but I don't have any reasons for that
L65[01:38:17] <BloodyRain2k> lol
L66[01:38:27] <BloodyRain2k> too many "magic" blocks for automation?
L67[01:38:49] * Izaya shrugs
L68[01:38:57] <Izaya> I haven't played the game in years
L69[01:39:03] <BloodyRain2k> or just the fact that you can break the energy equation with a simple farm + bioreactor + biogenerator
L70[01:39:31] <BloodyRain2k> seriously though, the bioreactor is OP, it generates so much biofuel yet the generator uses so little
L71[01:39:42] <BloodyRain2k> probably inspired by TE's insane RF rates
L72[01:40:12] <Izaya> TE wasn't too bad alone
L73[01:40:17] <BloodyRain2k> mhm, thinking about it, forestrys electric engine seems also out of what
L74[01:40:21] <BloodyRain2k> *whack
L75[01:40:33] <BloodyRain2k> 20 rf/t for 6 eu/t
L76[01:41:40] <BloodyRain2k> is there a magical limit where IC2 reactors are not capable of exceeding 800 HU/t with a simple cycle?
L77[01:41:53] <BloodyRain2k> because I can't figure out how to get past that
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L79[01:46:23] <BloodyRain2k> I also find it silly that IC2 has comparator support for the EU storages but not for the reactor temperature
L80[01:49:01] <ade124> Do people still play on 1.7.10 to this day
L81[01:49:09] <BloodyRain2k> yes... very much
L82[01:49:25] <BloodyRain2k> atleast 1/4 of the mods I use died with 1.7.10
L83[01:49:26] <BloodyRain2k> or at
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L85[01:50:09] zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L86[01:51:57] <ade124> BuildCraft pushed out a 1.4.7 build some time ago in the midst of 1.7.10 (or was it 1.11.2) builds
L87[01:52:09] <ade124> On CurseForge
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L89[02:02:07] <peelz> Does anybody have experience with building self-balancing/auto-scaling systems in Minecraft? I'm trying to set up some sort of PID algorithm to dynamically bring up/down IC2 coolant boilers using fluid tank sensors (from Pressure Pipes). ----> w/o using harcoded thresholds!
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L91[02:03:04] <BloodyRain2k> coolant boilers? why'd you want the coolant hotter than the reactor already makes it?
L92[02:03:56] <peelz> eh... by coolant boiler I meant steam generators + kinetic steam generators + kinetic generators
L93[02:04:44] <BloodyRain2k> so you mean a steam generator setup and not a reactor?
L94[02:05:00] <peelz> ?
L95[02:05:07] <peelz> Well... the hot coolant comes from a fluid reactor
L96[02:05:25] <BloodyRain2k> ok, now I'm even more confused
L97[02:05:31] <peelz> RIP ?
L98[02:05:45] <peelz> https://i.imgur.com/9OC90GA.jpg https://i.imgur.com/CXKn7g2.jpg
L99[02:06:12] <ade124> I probably should downgrade to 1.10 instead of continuing to use 1.11 but I already built a lot of things in my world and I don't want to risk the world catching on fire if I load it in 1.10 even after I installed all the mods
L100[02:06:17] <BloodyRain2k> I just run them through heat exchangers and these into sterling generators, best I can manage is a 800 HU/t reactor with 400 EU/t output, needs no management though
L101[02:07:08] <peelz> mhm
L102[02:07:11] <peelz> never used stirling generators
L103[02:08:29] <BloodyRain2k> sec, picing mine
L104[02:08:35] <peelz> BloodyRain2k: I'm trying to design an auto-scaling system (PID algorithm?)
L105[02:08:50] <peelz> I'm having excess hot coolant issues
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L107[02:09:31] <peelz> and sometimes the reverse -- I have too many liquid heat exchangers running and not enough coolant... so I end up getting steam discharges (explosions).
L108[02:10:32] <peelz> I was thinking of using hardcoded thresholds to bring up and down the third "coolant chiller unit" (see the image)
L109[02:10:48] <BloodyRain2k> what version are you running?
L110[02:10:54] <peelz> MC 1.7.10
L111[02:11:02] <BloodyRain2k> weird, nothing explodes here
L112[02:11:11] <peelz> ?
L113[02:11:20] <peelz> Steam discharges?
L114[02:11:36] <BloodyRain2k> http://imgur.com/a/LiWXE
L115[02:12:02] <peelz> mhm
L116[02:12:07] <BloodyRain2k> it can theoretically handle up to 1000 HU/t but I can't find a layout that can survive that in one cycle
L117[02:12:26] <BloodyRain2k> this one averages at around 800 HU/t giving 400 EU/t and needs no management
L118[02:12:50] <BloodyRain2k> the RS connection is simply to turn it off when the storage is getting too full
L119[02:13:04] <Forecaster> okay, back to trying to squeeze proper map tiles out of python
L120[02:13:10] <BloodyRain2k> hf
L121[02:13:21] <BloodyRain2k> may witchcraft be with you
L122[02:13:23] <peelz> mhm
L123[02:13:35] <Forecaster> ie trying to figure out why half of each row yields empty images...
L124[02:13:37] <peelz> BloodyRain2k: it's kinda hard to explain the issue I'm having... I can stream it on Twitch if you want
L125[02:13:46] <BloodyRain2k> also your reactor does have more HU/t but mine uses WAY less rods up
L126[02:14:05] <peelz> hmm
L127[02:14:14] <BloodyRain2k> dunno how much EU/t yours throws out though, didn't even know you can use hot coolant in a different way
L128[02:14:24] <peelz> lol
L129[02:14:36] <Forecaster> different way?
L130[02:14:48] <BloodyRain2k> my reactor was basically the one Forecaster build somewhere around ep 90 just 2.0'd xD
L131[02:15:02] <BloodyRain2k> but I was also using creative to build it while he didn't :P
L132[02:15:18] <peelz> survival is a bitch lol
L133[02:15:45] <BloodyRain2k> depends, if you like the challenge it's great I guess
L134[02:15:50] <BloodyRain2k> I prefer just building though
L135[02:15:55] <BloodyRain2k> most of the time
L136[02:16:26] <peelz> I can't play in creative... but whenever I play survival, I always end up cheating lmao
L137[02:16:28] <peelz> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L138[02:16:47] <peelz> Haven't cheated in this one so far, yay!
L139[02:16:54] <BloodyRain2k> for me it's the otherway round
L140[02:16:58] <peelz> lol
L141[02:17:02] <peelz> BloodyRain2k: https://www.twitch.tv/peelz_
L142[02:17:03] <Forecaster> I made a video specifically about fluid cooled reactors
L143[02:17:07] <Forecaster> it could use an update
L144[02:17:11] <BloodyRain2k> I play creative then end up turning it off from time to time struggling with things I could cheat in seconds
L145[02:17:29] <peelz> lol
L146[02:17:48] <peelz> BloodyRain2k: you see the stream?
L147[02:18:23] <BloodyRain2k> I'm also weird sometimes, I was setting up a farm to set an automated RC trading station and instead of cheating myself more seeds I just cheated some bonemeal and spammed that on the only seed I had
L148[02:18:52] <BloodyRain2k> yeah got it open now
L149[02:19:01] <peelz> aight
L150[02:19:48] <BloodyRain2k> I don't even know what mods that are xD
L151[02:19:57] <peelz> lol
L152[02:20:00] <peelz> Pressure Pïpes
L153[02:20:41] <peelz> Pressure Pipes
L154[02:21:15] <peelz> BloodyRain2k: once the IC2 Hot Coolant tank empties out, the liquid heat exchangers won't be able to reach 100 hU/t
L155[02:21:21] <peelz> and I'll get the steam discharges
L156[02:21:54] <Forecaster> I built my system to stop inputting if there's not enough hot coolant
L157[02:22:02] <BloodyRain2k> explains why nothing explodes for me, I'm not using steam, directly
L158[02:22:41] <BloodyRain2k> only idea I have is make a buffer tank with hot coolant and shut the steam things down before that runs out once it starts lacking behind
L159[02:23:02] <peelz> alright, the tank's almost empty
L160[02:24:05] <Forecaster> wait
L161[02:24:10] <Forecaster> is this an issue you're having?
L162[02:24:17] <peelz> well sorta
L163[02:24:24] <peelz> I'm trying to design a system to work around the issue
L164[02:24:44] <BloodyRain2k> I'm seeing the issue but I'm far from understanding it, likely because I don't use the mod that adds the parts involved
L165[02:24:46] <peelz> IC2 (kinetic) steam generators don't work well with partial loads
L166[02:24:51] <Forecaster> I use Pneumaticcraft fluid hoppers to input into the heatexchangers
L167[02:25:06] <Forecaster> they output exactly 100mb per second
L168[02:25:16] <Forecaster> and can be controlled with redstone
L169[02:25:25] <Forecaster> my system does not have that issue
L170[02:26:03] <peelz> BloodyRain2k: other mods?
L171[02:26:16] <peelz> I'm only using Pressure Pipes and IC2 here
L172[02:26:37] <BloodyRain2k> ok, I didn't even touch IC2's steam stuff yet xD
L173[02:26:43] <BloodyRain2k> I actually forgot that's a thing
L174[02:26:45] <peelz> Can you see the liquid heat exchanger going from 0 to 100 hU/t
L175[02:26:46] <peelz> ?
L176[02:26:50] <peelz> oh lol
L177[02:27:18] <BloodyRain2k> I only knew the heat exchangers and the stirling engine because Forecaster used them so I used that too for mine and it worked : /
L178[02:27:30] <BloodyRain2k> and yeah I saw the flickering
L179[02:27:34] <peelz> the third machine's kinetic generators are outputting 15 EU/t... they're supposed to output 100 EU/t with superheated steam
L180[02:27:40] <peelz> oh
L181[02:27:41] <BloodyRain2k> the stirling ones don't give a fuck about that
L182[02:28:09] <BloodyRain2k> I got 10 pairs of exchanger and generator and the last 2 of each row flicker constantly
L183[02:28:39] <peelz> hm
L184[02:28:49] <BloodyRain2k> I technically would only need 8 pairs but I added them to have excess, just in case
L185[02:29:16] <BloodyRain2k> out of curiousity, how much EU/t does your setup generate when it's running optimally?
L186[02:29:26] <peelz> No idea hahaha
L187[02:29:34] <peelz> Lemme get my EU reader
L188[02:29:52] <BloodyRain2k> mine is easy to calculate, HU/2
L189[02:30:02] <BloodyRain2k> because stirlings convert 100 HU to 50 EU
L190[02:30:38] <BloodyRain2k> so I get 400 EU/t out of 10 rods (4x2 + 2x1)
L191[02:30:55] <peelz> on my setup, I use superheated steam to generate 100 EU/t, and 50 EU/t from the residual steam
L192[02:31:15] <BloodyRain2k> per one of these generator towers or total?
L193[02:31:47] <peelz> ?
L194[02:31:49] <peelz> I'll show you
L195[02:32:12] <BloodyRain2k> these 3 things of which one was steam blowing, 100+50 per one of these or for all 3?
L196[02:32:59] <BloodyRain2k> ah ok, seems like a lot of these 100+50s :3
L197[02:33:08] <peelz> yeah
L198[02:33:15] <peelz> (100+50)x2
L199[02:33:15] <BloodyRain2k> guess EU wise is your setup far beyond mine
L200[02:33:25] <peelz> I take no credit for it
L201[02:33:28] <peelz> I looked it up ?
L202[02:33:31] <peelz> not my design
L203[02:33:39] <BloodyRain2k> so you're just trying to fix it?
L204[02:33:42] <peelz> yeah
L205[02:33:46] <BloodyRain2k> heh
L206[02:33:47] <peelz> make it self-balancing
L207[02:33:51] <BloodyRain2k> same what I did with FCs
L208[02:34:02] <peelz> FC?
L209[02:34:04] <BloodyRain2k> just bumped up the heat conversion and maxed out the layout
L210[02:34:22] <peelz> ?
L211[02:34:23] <BloodyRain2k> Forecaster, didn't wanna ping him again for no reason :P
L212[02:34:25] <peelz> Not sure I understand
L213[02:34:34] <peelz> ahh lol
L214[02:35:03] <BloodyRain2k> he had a small scale version of the one I showed with just one exchanger + generator and a minimal reactor layout (due to playing survival)
L215[02:35:24] <BloodyRain2k> so I just took the conversion end and maxed that out to the best reactor layout I could come up with
L216[02:35:35] <peelz> oh
L217[02:35:40] <peelz> I see
L218[02:35:59] <peelz> So it seems I'm getting 575 EU/t with two of the towers running
L219[02:36:28] <BloodyRain2k> well, if you get that balanced out you get far more than I do per HU
L220[02:36:46] <peelz> ?
L221[02:37:00] <peelz> I'll probably just setup something with harcoded thresholds
L222[02:37:11] <peelz> because setting up and actual PID algorithm for autoscaling is a pain in the ass
L223[02:37:25] <peelz> and I don't even know how to implement or whether it would actually work
L224[02:38:06] <peelz> 855 EU/t with 3 towers running
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L226[02:38:20] <BloodyRain2k> still at roughly 1k HU/t from the reactor?
L227[02:38:32] <peelz> it oscillates between 800 and 1000 hU/t
L228[02:38:40] <BloodyRain2k> much better rate than mine
L229[02:38:56] <BloodyRain2k> I use a lot less rods though for that
L230[02:39:00] <peelz> haha, I don't even know how reactor layouts work lol
L231[02:39:10] <BloodyRain2k> you had 5 quads in there?
L232[02:39:13] <peelz> I copied that one from some random image I found one google images
L233[02:39:16] <peelz> yup
L234[02:39:36] <peelz> I was using a butterfly setup w/ 2 double and 3 single fuel rods before that
L235[02:39:38] <BloodyRain2k> so you're using 2x the amount of rods for 1.2x the heat : /
L236[02:39:43] <peelz> I was getting 400 hU/t
L237[02:39:49] <peelz> hm oh well
L238[02:39:52] <peelz> it looks cooler lmao
L239[02:40:01] <BloodyRain2k> you could try my layout for giggles, maybe it works too
L240[02:40:16] <BloodyRain2k> though you'd lack some heat then as mine stays mostly at 800
L241[02:40:22] <peelz> maybe, I could give it a try after this cycle
L242[02:40:52] <peelz> Maybe I wouldn't need the third tower w/ 800 hU/t
L243[02:41:49] <BloodyRain2k> you can also do 5x2 + 1x1 with mine but the middle most component below / above the center 2x rod will melt within 5min, it does not affect the rest though so just leaving that part out then works fine too
L244[02:42:15] <peelz> o.o?
L245[02:42:48] <BloodyRain2k> http://imgur.com/a/LiWXE
L246[02:42:56] <BloodyRain2k> added the 5x2 + 1x1 layout
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L248[02:43:32] <peelz> that's 5x2?
L249[02:43:41] <BloodyRain2k> 5 dual rods and 1 single
L250[02:43:50] <BloodyRain2k> works with either mox or normal
L251[02:43:53] <peelz> on the screnshot you sent me, there's only 4
L252[02:44:35] <BloodyRain2k> http://i.imgur.com/YpRUKQe.png
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L254[02:44:45] <peelz> oh alright
L255[02:44:57] <deejayh-mc> Hello from Minecraft ha
L256[02:45:06] <DeeJayh> I'm such a nerd...
L257[02:45:57] <peelz> BloodyRain2k: soo yeah... I'll try and figure out a way to make it self-balancing
L258[02:45:59] <peelz> eventually lol
L259[02:46:19] <BloodyRain2k> hf and gl :3
L260[02:46:23] <peelz> yup ?
L261[02:46:33] <peelz> thanks for the tips though
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L263[02:47:51] <peelz> BloodyRain2k: btw, this is my IC2 reactor setup code: 0D140D0C150C0D140D0C0D060D0C0D060D0C090C0D0C0D0C0D0C09140D0C0D060D0C0D140D060D0C0D0C0D060D0C0D14090C09140D0C
L264[02:48:04] <peelz> if you wanna have a look ^
L265[02:48:05] <ade124> Is a key-value database easy to implement? I think my boredom levels have gotten to making a DB system in oc
L266[02:49:03] <peelz> ade124: fairly easy I would assume... depends if you're planning of supporting complex queries lol
L267[02:49:15] <ade124> maybe
L268[02:49:30] <ade124> Might as well attempt reinplementing redis in OC
L269[02:49:31] <raoulvdberge> key/value database in OC: tables
L270[02:49:32] <raoulvdberge> lol
L271[02:49:41] <peelz> lmao
L272[02:50:00] <Forecaster> FINALLY
L273[02:50:03] <ade124> Oh yeah forgot about that
L274[02:50:06] <Forecaster> the tiles match up!
L275[02:50:26] <ade124> might as well reimplement postgresql in OC
L276[02:50:32] <peelz> Q_Q
L277[02:50:57] <BloodyRain2k> inb4 OC:Backtrack
L278[02:52:15] <Forecaster> now to figure out scaling for zoom levels
L279[02:52:50] <ade124> everything I can do with a DB I can already do with tables... maybe except the asynchronous stuff but that isn't really needed
L280[02:54:17] ⇦ Quits: ade124 (~ade124@derp.nerdpol.ovh) (Quit: WeeChat 1.7.1)
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L282[02:54:59] <Forecaster> do I want fewer tiles or more for zooming out...
L283[02:54:59] <Forecaster> hm
L284[02:55:53] <ade124> Alright, my level of boredom is now making an OS for OC
L285[02:56:09] <ade124> if there ist a better thing to do
L286[02:56:12] <peelz> ade124: see you in a couple years! ?
L287[02:56:17] <ade124> *isn't
L288[02:56:29] <ade124> Any suggestions
L289[02:57:32] <peelz> Uhh... an auto-scaling IC2 coolant chiller balancing system? ?
L290[02:57:32] <peelz> lul
L291[02:57:44] <ade124> ...
L292[02:57:47] <peelz> lmao
L293[02:57:50] <peelz> That's what I'm working on
L294[02:59:50] <peelz> ade124: well, honestly, if I were to make an OS for OC, I'd probably try building something with a strong interrupts/events/threading system.
L295[02:59:53] <BloodyRain2k> write a rom that can load FORTH code into a drone's memory
L296[03:00:41] <BloodyRain2k> grrr, I can't break that damn 800 HU/t mark
L297[03:00:45] <peelz> ade124: considering OpenOS is event-based... it could be nice to have an OS with actual threading support
L298[03:01:03] <BloodyRain2k> well atleast not without ending with that stupid empty slot that's simply pissing me off
L299[03:01:18] <ade124> I've been writing semi low level code anyway (e.g. gpu.set instead of print)
L300[03:01:33] <peelz> BloodyRain2k: did you see my IC2 reactor layout code I sent you earlier? 0D140D0C150C0D140D0C0D060D0C0D060D0C090C0D0C0D0C0D0C09140D0C0D060D0C0D140D060D0C0D0C0D060D0C0D14090C09140D0C
L301[03:01:51] <BloodyRain2k> yes
L302[03:01:54] <peelz> aight
L303[03:01:57] <BloodyRain2k> saw it already in the stream
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L305[03:02:09] <peelz> yeah, I mean, just in case you want to play around with it
L306[03:02:12] <peelz> ?
L307[03:02:17] <BloodyRain2k> the 52x+1x1 I showed gets roughly the same output with less rods
L308[03:02:24] <BloodyRain2k> *5x2
L309[03:02:38] <peelz> can you send me the code?
L310[03:02:41] <BloodyRain2k> btw, you DO know that rods give each other a boost by being placed next to each other?
L311[03:02:48] <DeeJayh-MC> Hey, what's the best way to edit our lua scripts via third party editors? Is there some script I'm not aware of to upload/downloading, or can I just access the files directly?
L312[03:02:50] <peelz> nope
L313[03:02:51] <BloodyRain2k> 0D140D140D140D140D140D140D140D140D140D140D0504050D140D0D140D0504050D140D140D140D140D140D140D140D140D140D140D
L314[03:03:10] <peelz> BloodyRain2k: thanks
L315[03:04:00] <BloodyRain2k> throw a disk into a drive, edit a file onto it with more than 0 content (it doesn't seem to create the file actually for empty files) and then access the disk externally and when you updated it take the disk out and throw it in again so the game reloads it
L316[03:04:18] <peelz> DeeJayh-MC: uhh not really (AFAIK)... if you have access to the server, you can edit your files through SSH using vim/emacs/nano I guess
L317[03:04:44] <peelz> BloodyRain2k: why a disk?
L318[03:05:11] <BloodyRain2k> because you need to remove and re-insert the drive for the OC computer to reload it's file's contents
L319[03:05:12] <DeeJayh-MC> <BloodyRain2k> awesome, thank you, one other thing, I can do that because I am the server admin, and have access to the files. What about others? Or am I under the misconception that the server stores those files for the floppies?
L320[03:05:33] <BloodyRain2k> the server stores ALL things
L321[03:05:38] <BloodyRain2k> well, all data things
L322[03:05:39] <peelz> BloodyRain2k: well, all you have to do is clear the packages.loaded table entries for your scripts.
L323[03:05:42] <BloodyRain2k> disks, hdds
L324[03:05:45] <peelz> you don't have to put it on a disk
L325[03:06:02] <BloodyRain2k> I know, a disk is simply the easiest changeable medium
L326[03:06:08] <peelz> yeah I guess
L327[03:06:08] <DeeJayh-MC> right, so what about other people, do we have some sort of script for uploading like github gists or something?
L328[03:06:13] <BloodyRain2k> an HDD works too of course but the drive is easier to access
L329[03:06:29] <BloodyRain2k> you could write a http one for downloading things
L330[03:06:36] <BloodyRain2k> but beyond that, dunno
L331[03:06:53] <BloodyRain2k> haven't touched the http module yet
L332[03:06:58] <DeeJayh-MC> ok, so that's not already a thing, I may just write it up then and share it on the OpenPrograms Github
L333[03:07:06] <peelz> this is what I use for "hot-reloading" my scripts (clearing the cache): https://pastebin.com/kfsbSCWP
L334[03:07:14] <DeeJayh-MC> thought for sure someone would have done something like that before
L335[03:07:20] <BloodyRain2k> maybe
L336[03:07:30] <BloodyRain2k> there's a http disk I think, didn't tried it yet
L337[03:07:53] <ade124> actually I might as well work on a compile to lua language that looks like a mix between 3000 different languages
L338[03:07:55] <DeeJayh-MC> like `upload script.lua` then edit it in notepad++ or w/e and then `wget` it back
L339[03:08:09] <BloodyRain2k> 3 maybe even, Network Stack, OPPM (package manager) and the irc one
L340[03:08:40] <peelz> DeeJayh-MC: that sounds very inefficient... might as well create an SSH server for OC lol ?
L341[03:08:47] <BloodyRain2k> if you're bored ade124, write DJ a script for downloading a script from an url onto the OC pc :D
L342[03:09:23] <DeeJayh-MC> Corded how would it be inefficient to upload files for editing in a full on IDE rather than crap-typing it into MC on a computer screen
L343[03:09:23] <ade124> externally?
L344[03:09:54] <peelz> DeeJayh-MC: Corded is the name of the bot bridging Discord and IRC, my name's actually peelz lol
L345[03:10:16] <DeeJayh-MC> basically what I want to do is, write my scripts in my preferred editor, and have a way to send/retrieve the file
L346[03:10:22] <BloodyRain2k> I was already wondering about this thing, though I atleast made the connection of it being a relay :>
L347[03:10:26] <DeeJayh-MC> gotcha, I'm new here
L348[03:10:39] <BloodyRain2k> it got me confused for a while too though
L349[03:10:41] <peelz> same ?
L350[03:11:09] <DeeJayh-MC> it just seems like this is something the devs would've cooked up already
L351[03:11:21] <peelz> DeeJayh-MC: if you're a vim/emacs user, you can just edit them directly through SSH
L352[03:11:23] <BloodyRain2k> simply NP++ > DropBox > Download into MC, that's what I did back with RP2
L353[03:11:31] <peelz> haha that works too lol
L354[03:11:50] <BloodyRain2k> though I was giving the download capability by running a local server that was "listening" on the floppy files
L355[03:11:58] <BloodyRain2k> still worked
L356[03:12:23] <BloodyRain2k> I could write an url onto a floppy and get the result written back onto it
L357[03:12:37] <DeeJayh-MC> Bloody, yea that's a simple concept, however, what I'm more interested in, is getting some scripts I "crap-typed" into the game itself
L358[03:12:43] <DeeJayh-MC> when I first started with it
L359[03:12:54] <ade124> INSERT INTO peopleConfusedByCorded VALUES DeeJayh-MC;
L360[03:13:05] <BloodyRain2k> heh
L361[03:13:10] <DeeJayh-MC> Query Failed: ROLLBACKL
L362[03:13:14] <ade124> oops forgot the quotes
L363[03:13:15] <BloodyRain2k> that should be a command for michi's bot
L364[03:13:27] <BloodyRain2k> great ade, now you've blown the DB :P
L365[03:13:27] <peelz> ade124: Syntax error near unexpected token 'DeeJayh-'
L366[03:13:41] <Forecaster> BloodyRain2k: what command?
L367[03:13:49] <BloodyRain2k> like %inv
L368[03:14:10] <BloodyRain2k> we need %discord to add people to a list of having been confused by the relay bot
L369[03:14:31] <DeeJayh-MC> I'm interested in this plan9k, so theoretically I could leave IRC running, ctrl out of it, do something else, and then come back to it, right?
L370[03:14:49] <DeeJayh-MC> trying to understand what advantages it offers over OpenOS
L371[03:14:59] <BloodyRain2k> dunno, haven't managed to get that one running
L372[03:15:18] <peelz> DeeJayh-MC: I used a network share for editing my files externally... you can either do that or setup dropbox on the server as BloodyRain said. Either works.
L373[03:15:24] <DeeJayh-MC> it's an OS disk... lol you just boot from it and it's running
L374[03:15:31] <ade124> lol"; DROP DATABASEA oc; --
L375[03:15:42] <ade124> Oops
L376[03:15:59] <BloodyRain2k> rip DATABASEA
L377[03:16:00] <ade124> lol"; DROP DATABASE oc; --
L378[03:16:21] <DeeJayh-MC> peelz what about when someone types one up in game and is like "oh I'd really like to expand on this" and wants to get it out of the game
L379[03:16:35] <DeeJayh-MC> I'm admin, sure I can get mine, but what about others
L380[03:16:42] <peelz> when someone? as in someone other than you?
L381[03:16:43] <DeeJayh-MC> if there's no answer, then it is what it is
L382[03:16:44] <peelz> Ah
L383[03:16:47] <DeeJayh-MC> right
L384[03:16:52] <peelz> Yeah, that's a bit more complicated.
L385[03:16:57] <DeeJayh-MC> right on
L386[03:17:06] <ade124> I wonder if piping works in openos
L387[03:17:13] <peelz> Well... you could probably set up something more complicated with a full-blown web interface
L388[03:17:27] <BloodyRain2k> isn't there the http card for that?
L389[03:17:27] <DeeJayh-MC> probably a few simple HTTP requests to a free file host that doesn't require login...
L390[03:17:37] <peelz> All the other options are either really complicated or not user-friendly
L391[03:17:42] <BloodyRain2k> you'd "just" need an upload program to throw it somewhere
L392[03:18:02] <BloodyRain2k> finding that place where you can throw them without a login is the hard pard
L393[03:18:09] <BloodyRain2k> man I'm typing well
L394[03:18:19] <peelz> lol
L395[03:18:28] <Forecaster> %inv add the hard pard
L396[03:18:29] * MichiBot summons 'the hard pard' and adds to her inventory. This seems very sturdy.
L397[03:18:30] <BloodyRain2k> also maybe hastebin.com?
L398[03:18:59] <DeeJayh-MC> right something like `upload script.lua` and it sends a line-by-line to gist.github.com
L399[03:19:11] <Forecaster> openos supports pastebin
L400[03:19:21] <Forecaster> pastebin put script.lua
L401[03:19:30] <Forecaster> and pastebin get <code> script.lua
L402[03:19:40] <peelz> DeeJayh-MC: if you're just looking to export single files... you can just use the `https://paste.pc-logix.com/uwirihexut` tool bundled with OpenOS
L403[03:19:40] <Forecaster> requires an internet card
L404[03:19:45] <DeeJayh-MC> ^ AH HA!
L405[03:19:46] <BloodyRain2k> see, problem solved already, you just need to find someone that knows the solution exists xD
L406[03:19:54] <DeeJayh-MC> I knew there had to be something already
L407[03:19:58] <DeeJayh-MC> thanks folks!
L408[03:20:01] <peelz> np ?
L409[03:20:12] <peelz> DeeJayh-MC: export multiple files can get a bit clunky
L410[03:20:23] <DeeJayh-MC> yea no I just have two scripts I want to recover
L411[03:20:33] <DeeJayh-MC> that are in single lua files
L412[03:20:42] <DeeJayh-MC> so two commands and good to go
L413[03:20:43] <peelz> DeeJayh-MC: also note that pastebin is rate-limited; you can't upload more than N pastes a day
L414[03:20:49] <Forecaster> if you want to get muliple files and you're in SP you can just go into the world and get them there
L415[03:20:56] <Forecaster> world save dir
L416[03:21:05] <BloodyRain2k> someone should convert the script to hastebin.com, that one seems much nicer
L417[03:21:14] <ade124> I wonder if there's a hastebin client for OC
L418[03:21:17] <DeeJayh-MC> yea no we were talking about multiplayer Forecaster, but thank you for the solution!
L419[03:21:19] <peelz> BloodyRain2k: more like rewrite the whole thing lol
L420[03:21:36] <BloodyRain2k> dunno, I have barely used the RS module so far :D
L421[03:21:46] <BloodyRain2k> the furthest I was before that was the adapter
L422[03:22:23] <Forecaster> I have a todo program thing on OpenPrograms :P
L423[03:22:30] <peelz> lol
L424[03:22:36] <DeeJayh-MC> So while I have attention from experts lol, what about Plan9K, is it just an OS with a command key combo to keep a process running? so i could back out of here, edit a lua, and then come back in where i left off?
L425[03:22:44] <BloodyRain2k> would be funnier if you'd had that ingame on a biblio clipboard
L426[03:22:45] <Forecaster> aka oppm
L427[03:23:02] <ade124> Actually, I have an idea... transmitting OC network signals over redstone
L428[03:23:09] <DeeJayh-MC> oh god
L429[03:23:16] <Forecaster> you can get it if you have an internet card and oppm installed
L430[03:23:18] <DeeJayh-MC> sending clock bits at a time
L431[03:23:23] <Forecaster> and to 'oppm install opentodo'
L432[03:23:23] <DeeJayh-MC> what a nightmare
L433[03:23:30] <Forecaster> and do*
L434[03:23:37] <ade124> wuth analogue signals
L435[03:23:54] <DeeJayh-MC> ade124 might as well just follow the guidelines for packet encapsulation too...
L436[03:23:58] <peelz> DeeJayh-MC: not an expert, but I've had a lot of issues with Plan9K... stability issues, and AFAIK, Plan9K is quite different from OpenOS.
L437[03:24:10] <BloodyRain2k> 16bit analog transmission ftw
L438[03:24:15] <DeeJayh-MC> god no
L439[03:24:16] <BloodyRain2k> aka PR bundle cables
L440[03:24:29] <peelz> I already tried other OS' with "better concurrency support"... and they all suck TBH (no offense to Plan9K).
L441[03:24:29] <BloodyRain2k> I think atleast that they can transfer analog too
L442[03:24:30] <DeeJayh-MC> I like openos because it's so similar to linux
L443[03:24:32] <peelz> They're just no mature enough
L444[03:24:35] <peelz> They're just not mature enough
L445[03:24:53] <BloodyRain2k> not enough porn builtin?
L446[03:25:00] <peelz> lol?
L447[03:25:06] <BloodyRain2k> jk, I get what you meant xD
L448[03:25:07] <Forecaster> openos has starwars
L449[03:25:09] <peelz> ^^
L450[03:25:11] <DeeJayh-MC> *sigh* and with that I vanish
L451[03:25:11] <Forecaster> it's clearly superior
L452[03:25:22] ⇦ Quits: DeeJayh-MC (~deejayh-m@184.91.145.126) (Quit: DeeJayh-MC)
L453[03:25:26] <BloodyRain2k> I use what ever I can get to run
L454[03:25:34] <DeeJayh> BUT I'M STILL HERE
L455[03:25:35] <DeeJayh> muhahaha
L456[03:25:40] <BloodyRain2k> same reason I actually used FORTH back in RP2
L457[03:25:50] <peelz> DeeJayh: I would advise you to stick to OpenOS btw!
L458[03:26:03] <peelz> Better support and more stability
L459[03:26:11] <peelz> ? ?
L460[03:26:18] <DeeJayh> Yea I probably will, but... but... concurrency... :(
L461[03:26:24] <peelz> yeah, nah
L462[03:26:28] <BloodyRain2k> write your own OS then
L463[03:26:33] <DeeJayh> psh
L464[03:26:36] <DeeJayh> no thank you
L465[03:26:39] <BloodyRain2k> :>
L466[03:26:41] <AshIndigo> Easy enough!
L467[03:26:46] <peelz> OpenOS is event-based... it's not half-bad, but it's definitely crippling.
L468[03:26:59] <ade124> A
L469[03:27:16] <peelz> The big problem here is the underlying Lua primitives (coroutines!) ?
L470[03:27:27] <DeeJayh> Yup
L471[03:27:29] <DeeJayh> no true threading
L472[03:27:32] <peelz> yeah...
L473[03:27:39] <Saphire> Blegh
L474[03:27:41] <DeeJayh> 10 coroutines, but only 1 can run at any given time
L475[03:27:46] <Saphire> This issue on github is getting admitted
L476[03:27:48] <DeeJayh> like ruby and it's god damn GIL
L477[03:27:51] <Saphire> *annoying
L478[03:27:53] <Saphire> DeeJayh: uh
L479[03:27:56] <peelz> so all "threading" model abstractions are based on coroutines
L480[03:28:08] <DeeJayh> Saphire, ?
L481[03:28:10] <Saphire> Coroutines are not concurrence
L482[03:28:14] <ade124> alright, I have a proper idea, HTTP in OC
L483[03:28:17] <DeeJayh> I never said they were?
L484[03:28:47] <Saphire> You can do threading with several cumputers..
L485[03:28:50] <Saphire> Ooooh
L486[03:28:54] <peelz> lol
L487[03:28:59] * Saphire jumps up and down around Sangar
L488[03:29:00] <DeeJayh> god...
L489[03:29:03] <peelz> haha
L490[03:29:09] <DeeJayh> that'd be a nightmare
L491[03:29:12] <Saphire> Multiple CPUs!
L492[03:29:19] <DeeJayh> a server rack maybe
L493[03:29:21] <peelz> Saphire: you can achieve concurrency with coroutines... not parallelism though!
L494[03:29:25] <DeeJayh> but forget multiples
L495[03:29:25] <BloodyRain2k> there's a reason for the server rack :3
L496[03:29:35] <Saphire> Awww
L497[03:29:37] <DeeJayh> peelz gets me
L498[03:29:45] <peelz> ;p
L499[03:29:55] <DeeJayh> ruby is the same way as LUA by default with the MRI
L500[03:30:02] <DeeJayh> you can have 10 threads
L501[03:30:06] <DeeJayh> but there's only one pipeline
L502[03:30:08] <Saphire> Also: why the hell would anyone use OC forums on their own?
L503[03:30:14] <ade124> Cumputers
L504[03:30:19] <Saphire> Forums are... Evil.
L505[03:30:23] <Saphire> And scary
L506[03:30:26] <Saphire> And evil
L507[03:30:31] <DeeJayh> Forums aren't evil, IRC is just more fun
L508[03:30:32] <BloodyRain2k> everything I have to make a new account for is evil
L509[03:30:33] <DeeJayh> <3
L510[03:30:36] <peelz> I wish Lua had an event loop, kinda like JavaScript
L511[03:30:45] <Saphire> Eh?
L512[03:30:49] <peelz> ?
L513[03:30:53] <ade124> asyncio in lua sounds... Fun
L514[03:30:57] <peelz> lol
L515[03:30:57] <DeeJayh> I wish Lua had a fruitloop, so it could be a healthy part of my balanced breakfast
L516[03:30:59] <BloodyRain2k> ALL OF THE ???
L517[03:31:06] <peelz> Wait... could OC support Javascript? ? ?
L518[03:31:09] <Saphire> "like JavaScript" is horrible phrase
L519[03:31:17] <DeeJayh> peelz no
L520[03:31:18] <peelz> oh come on
L521[03:31:20] <peelz> >_>
L522[03:31:22] <BloodyRain2k> js is fun
L523[03:31:23] <Saphire> NO NO NO NO DON'T
L524[03:31:24] <peelz> Give JS some love
L525[03:31:31] <peelz> ?
L526[03:31:33] <DeeJayh> js is crap, there's your love
L527[03:31:34] <Saphire> OH GOD ABANDON THE UNIVERSE
L528[03:31:34] <ade124> Alright, let's reimplement python's asyncio in lua then
L529[03:31:34] <BloodyRain2k> it allows you to completely change a variable at runtime :D just like lua
L530[03:31:36] <peelz> HEY
L531[03:31:44] <DeeJayh> never writen code in a more convoluted language in my life
L532[03:31:49] <peelz> ?
L533[03:31:51] <BloodyRain2k> also JS has atleast sane bracketing
L534[03:31:52] <peelz> ES6 is great mkay?
L535[03:32:06] <DeeJayh> you dont need brackets
L536[03:32:12] <peelz> :^)
L537[03:32:13] <BloodyRain2k> I do
L538[03:32:14] <DeeJayh> whitespace is enough if you actually use it
L539[03:32:14] <Saphire> BloodyRain2k: uh
L540[03:32:17] <ade124> *insert complaint that lua's error handling is like golang's error handling but kind if worse*
L541[03:32:22] <peelz> "EEPROM (JavaScript BIOS)" here I come!
L542[03:32:29] <Saphire> peelz
L543[03:32:31] <peelz> lul
L544[03:32:31] <BloodyRain2k> I can't read ENDs because I need to manually find where they begin first
L545[03:32:37] <BloodyRain2k> { } make that much easier
L546[03:32:41] <Saphire> Just.. look into the architecture documentation
L547[03:32:47] <peelz> ?
L548[03:32:51] <peelz> link?
L549[03:32:52] <Saphire> BloodyRain2k: do you fucking indent
L550[03:32:53] <DeeJayh> *insert complaint that no one has completely re-written OC to do away with LUA and use a language with more features
L551[03:33:00] <BloodyRain2k> NEVA!
L552[03:33:00] <Saphire> DeeJayh: uh
L553[03:33:02] <Saphire> Uh
L554[03:33:04] <Saphire> Uuuuuh
L555[03:33:15] <Saphire> You don't fucking need to rewrite OC for that
L556[03:33:19] <BloodyRain2k> tell me when you got the JS rom peelz, I'd definitely wanna try that xD
L557[03:33:21] <ade124> *insert complaint that someone spelt Lua as LUA*
L558[03:33:29] <peelz> BloodyRain2k: haha, probably never lmao xD
L559[03:33:31] <Saphire> Because there is such a tiny fucking thing as /architectures/
L560[03:33:45] <AshIndigo> There was a bot that corrected that
L561[03:33:52] <DeeJayh> WELL EXCUSE THE FUCK OUT OF ME :D
L562[03:33:55] <DeeJayh> <3
L563[03:33:59] <AshIndigo> Don't know what happened to kt
L564[03:34:14] <Saphire> DeeJayh: uh, look into OC repo
L565[03:34:27] <Saphire> And maybe wiki..?
L566[03:34:37] <ade124> I kind of like Ruby's syntax, maybe it's why there's ruby-like languages that compile to every language in existence
L567[03:34:55] <peelz> Saphire: lol, found this: https://github.com/mrmakeit/OCJS/ haha
L568[03:34:58] <DeeJayh> ruby is hands down the best for ease, it's powerful, but simple to use
L569[03:35:10] <Saphire> peelz, if it works, congrats
L570[03:35:14] <peelz> nah, fuck that
L571[03:35:17] <Saphire> Still*
L572[03:35:25] <peelz> I ain't building an OS in JS
L573[03:35:29] <DeeJayh> 200 lines of code I have a fully concurrent/parallel server running multiple games and waiting for client connections
L574[03:35:38] <Saphire> Also there are MIPS and ARM archs
L575[03:35:51] <Saphire> Peelz: have you seen fucking node.js?
L576[03:35:51] <peelz> Yeah, I heard about those... really cool stuff!
L577[03:35:56] <peelz> Saphire: yeah?
L578[03:35:59] <peelz> :p
L579[03:36:04] <peelz> Saphire: I use it daily
L580[03:36:11] <Saphire> Because I have a suspicion that they are doing exactly that
L581[03:36:16] <peelz> ?
L582[03:36:16] <BloodyRain2k> so much fucking in here, this demands an R-18 rating :D
L583[03:36:23] <peelz> Saphire: what do you mean?
L584[03:36:29] <DeeJayh> It's 430 am
L585[03:36:39] * BloodyRain2k sticks a R-18 sticker onto Saphire
L586[03:36:40] <DeeJayh> adult swim time homie, if you're a kiddie, get out of the pool
L587[03:36:44] <Saphire> Peelz: why the fuck there are so many modules?
L588[03:36:51] <peelz> ?
L589[03:36:52] <DeeJayh> sometimes you just gotta have fucks the throw out
L590[03:37:02] <BloodyRain2k> fuck fuckety fuck fuck fuck, also fuck the pool :D
L591[03:37:12] <peelz> Saphire: what are you talking about?
L592[03:37:19] <BloodyRain2k> fucking mostly
L593[03:37:20] <ade124> Python is my go-to 'throw something together extremely quickly and have it work' lang, I wonder if ruby can replace it
L594[03:37:23] <DeeJayh> lmao
L595[03:37:29] <DeeJayh> BloodyRain2k, you're amazing
L596[03:37:38] <Saphire> Like... Every app that's more complicated than Hello world uses dozens of NPM modules
L597[03:37:39] <BloodyRain2k> just saw a chance and was fast enough to type it
L598[03:37:43] <DeeJayh> python is great, you could go with either
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L600[03:37:49] <DeeJayh> they're equal in my eyes
L601[03:37:53] <Saphire> And don't get me started on /freaking electron/
L602[03:37:57] <peelz> lul
L603[03:37:58] <DeeJayh> most everything I write I do in python or ruby
L604[03:38:00] * Saphire shivers
L605[03:38:04] <peelz> Saphire: yeah... that's just how it is. JS = a lot of code churn and modules everywhere
L606[03:38:14] <Saphire> ... Two words
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L608[03:38:17] <Saphire> Left pad
L609[03:38:21] <peelz> Saphire: You either use it and embrace, or you run away screaming. There's no in-between
L610[03:38:25] <DeeJayh> ade124, I usually use python for things I want to compile to exe, and ruby for backends on websites
L611[03:38:31] <ade124> I like ruby's syntax more (`end`s are quite nice)
L612[03:38:34] <DeeJayh> both are fantastic languages
L613[03:38:44] <Saphire> I am keeping to "run away screaming"
L614[03:38:47] <peelz> lol
L615[03:39:01] <peelz> Saphire: personally, I don't mind using 1 bagillion different NPM modules
L616[03:39:02] <Izaya> peels, you can also attempt to beat it away with a stck while yelling
L617[03:39:07] <Izaya> that is my general approach
L618[03:39:09] <BloodyRain2k> I always wanna run when I see 'end's, but lua is everywhere for modding so I have to stay
L619[03:39:10] <peelz> lol
L620[03:39:30] <DeeJayh> that's another great thing about ruby
L621[03:39:34] <DeeJayh> you can use do/end
L622[03:39:40] <DeeJayh> AND {}
L623[03:39:48] <Izaya> for what purpose
L624[03:39:48] <Saphire> But... Left pad is, uuuuuh. That's the statement of how shitty the node.js devs are on average.
L625[03:39:53] <DeeJayh> whichever you're feeling froggy to on that particular line of code
L626[03:39:57] <peelz> ?
L627[03:40:02] <peelz> Saphire: I really like using Webpack though. Just gotta use some self-restraint on the modules.
L628[03:40:03] <Saphire> DeeJayh: Uh, in the end it's just syntax
L629[03:40:04] <BloodyRain2k> Izaya is lying, he usually just waves the wand and spells "penetrus explodum" to make things go away
L630[03:40:05] <ade124> if something { puts 'is this proper syntax' }
L631[03:40:17] <DeeJayh> Saphire, you say uh a lot.
L632[03:40:29] <DeeJayh> I love it, reminds me of my Gamgam Yishka
L633[03:40:31] <BloodyRain2k> though I just realized that line makes little sense without the context from half a day ago...
L634[03:40:33] <Saphire> Because there are a lot of things that make me say that
L635[03:40:33] <DeeJayh> From the old country
L636[03:40:38] <ade124> If so it'd be my almost-ideal lang (I still have a thing for := though)
L637[03:40:47] <Saphire> ...
L638[03:40:57] <Saphire> ade124: you're sick
L639[03:41:16] <Izaya> I don't have a magic wand though, I just have a coilgun
L640[03:41:21] * Izaya tends to think he'
L641[03:41:24] <DeeJayh> Saphire, maybe you're too critical
L642[03:41:26] <BloodyRain2k> := is a smiley with gills
L643[03:41:27] <Izaya> fucking goddamnit
L644[03:41:30] <peelz> Saphire: also, the number of modules is because everything is... well, modular/plug-and-play. In other web-dev frameworks/languages, you'd use a monolithic framework (equivalent to the bagillion NPM modules).
L645[03:41:35] <DeeJayh> "Overscrupulous" if you will
L646[03:41:38] * Izaya tends to think he's more like rick than a wizard
L647[03:41:51] <BloodyRain2k> ah, you also tend to hit enter instead of shift? :D
L648[03:41:55] <DeeJayh> sometimes there's more than one way to skin a cat, and that's ok... except that you're skinning a cat you sick fuck
L649[03:42:00] <Saphire> What does := offers compared to = ?
L650[03:42:06] <BloodyRain2k> confusion
L651[03:42:10] <DeeJayh> ^
L652[03:42:13] <Saphire> ^86
L653[03:42:26] <Saphire> Gah, sensor glitch
L654[03:42:31] <DeeJayh> just like symbols in ruby
L655[03:42:38] <Saphire> ade124: sorry
L656[03:43:00] <peelz> Saphire: also, what do you mean by "left pad"?
L657[03:43:02] <Saphire> peelz: and how much of the framework is used?
L658[03:43:30] <peelz> Saphire: surely not all of it. With NPM modules, you take what you need (for most frameworks/libraries).
L659[03:43:42] <DeeJayh> is there some way to paste into minecraft? like a URL for wget?
L660[03:43:53] <peelz> DeeJayh: INSERT
L661[03:43:53] <BloodyRain2k> press insert in the OC
L662[03:44:02] <DeeJayh> peelz <3
L663[03:44:03] <BloodyRain2k> there's no copy out though afaik
L664[03:44:05] <peelz> ^^ np
L665[03:44:10] <fingercomp> DeeJayh: or just middle-click
L666[03:44:18] <peelz> ^ that works too ?
L667[03:44:22] <Forecaster> there's no copying no
L668[03:44:23] <DeeJayh> lol nice
L669[03:44:25] <Saphire> peelz: left pad module was a perfect example of how NPM modules that implement feature X are more preferred to doing it yourself. Or worse, no competition between different approaches to feature X
L670[03:44:26] <ade124> I have a thing for: function calls without parentheses, maybe 2 space indentation, ruby's way of using for loops, maybe `let`, GNU style and := (The former 2 being somewhat ironic)
L671[03:44:35] <DeeJayh> both are great to know, thank you both!
L672[03:44:57] <Saphire> ade124: uh. Functions call without parentheses sounds like... A very very horrible thing
L673[03:45:12] <peelz> Saphire: oh right, that... yeah, well, that's because of the JavaScript API. The language is evolving VERY slowly. The devs have to be careful not to break backwards-compat with the language.
L674[03:45:17] <Saphire> I mean, accidently calling a function instead of using variant...
L675[03:45:30] <Saphire> That seems like a very possible and horrible scenario
L676[03:45:44] <ade124> Most functional languages don't add parentheses to function calls
L677[03:45:57] <Forecaster> the only thing I've used that uses no-par calls is AutoHotkey
L678[03:45:58] <Izaya> forth has no syntax
L679[03:46:01] <Saphire> peelz: so you're saying that JS is stagnant practically
L680[03:46:10] <Izaya> beyond : and ; and that's used to define words
L681[03:46:16] <ade124> = confuses (beginner) programmers, := does not
L682[03:46:24] <Saphire> ade124: uh
L683[03:46:25] <BloodyRain2k> oh yeah, I hate AHKs syntax
L684[03:46:30] <ade124> So there's that, but people get used to it quickly
L685[03:46:31] <BloodyRain2k> but it IS fucking useful
L686[03:46:33] <Saphire> >very very very beginner programmers
L687[03:46:34] <peelz> Saphire: not stagnant, no, slow-elvolving. All popular languages evolve slowly.
L688[03:46:40] <peelz> Just look at Python lol
L689[03:46:42] <Izaya> try == for that situation
L690[03:46:46] <Saphire> And, well...
L691[03:47:02] <Saphire> Hmm
L692[03:47:05] <peelz> Saphire: JS was badly designed from the get-go... so yeah, bad language foundations
L693[03:47:16] <Forecaster> I kinda wished AHK used python syntax or something instead
L694[03:47:22] <Forecaster> would've been better
L695[03:47:27] <peelz> oh jesus
L696[03:47:31] <peelz> AHK syntax is atrocious LOL
L697[03:47:35] <BloodyRain2k> I wish it'd use C# one, just so I can have consistent () and {}
L698[03:47:40] <ade124> Popular languages evolve slowly... Also applies to real languages to some extent
L699[03:47:41] <Saphire> Wait, is = both assignment and "a and b are equal" operator in algebra, right?
L700[03:47:51] <Izaya> yes
L701[03:47:52] <Saphire> ade124: ...huh
L702[03:47:53] <BloodyRain2k> sometimes AHK takes (), sometimes it breaks from them, sometimes you need a new line for a block, sometimes you don't
L703[03:47:56] <BloodyRain2k> it's a horrible mess
L704[03:47:59] * Saphire chuckles
L705[03:48:02] <ade124> in VB assignment and equality is both =
L706[03:48:02] <Izaya> assignment and a = b is the same thing
L707[03:48:10] <Izaya> at least in maths
L708[03:48:13] <BloodyRain2k> but awesome for remapping keys to new functions, or just swapping them
L709[03:48:26] <Saphire> I wonder what would happen if linguists took a look at Programming languages
L710[03:48:29] <Izaya> because you're saying that a = b, and either can be a constant
L711[03:48:37] <Izaya> Saphire: run away screaming
L712[03:48:39] <Saphire> I mean, the people who deal with /natural language/
L713[03:48:40] <ade124> Stuff like `a = a + 3` might confuse mathematicians
L714[03:48:41] <peelz> lolol
L715[03:48:46] <Saphire> Izaya: well, after that
L716[03:49:00] <Izaya> rock forward and backwards while sitting down
L717[03:49:02] <Saphire> ade124: until the one sentence
L718[03:49:17] <peelz> Saphire: have you tried ES6?
L719[03:49:23] <Saphire> "is sets the new value of a using the right expression"
L720[03:49:24] <DeeJayh> is there a way to modify the OS to just load up in the root folder instead of home? that's so annoying
L721[03:49:41] <Izaya> DeeJayh: could probably be done with .shrc
L722[03:49:54] <Saphire> Peelz: uh no. Do you need to install 500mb environment just to run a hello world?
L723[03:50:12] <peelz> Saphire: ... you don't need ES6 if you're just making a "hello world" program.
L724[03:50:25] <BloodyRain2k> main reason I never got into MC modding, I couldn't get myself to install the fucking java IDE
L725[03:50:26] <peelz> Also, ES6 != Babel/Transpilers
L726[03:50:37] <BloodyRain2k> also MC's absolute aweful lack of modding support
L727[03:50:48] <Saphire> Peelz: ...why transpilers are a thing?
L728[03:50:50] <Izaya> anyone remember the modding API?
L729[03:50:51] <Saphire> I mean
L730[03:50:53] <Izaya> heheheh
L731[03:50:58] <BloodyRain2k> nice one xD
L732[03:51:06] <peelz> Saphire: "Use next generation JavaScript, today." -- https://babeljs.io
L733[03:51:07] <peelz> ?
L734[03:51:08] <Saphire> For anything other than Language=>machine code
L735[03:51:24] <peelz> Why use Scala over Java? Better syntax.
L736[03:51:33] <Saphire> I mean, language-to-language transpilers are strange
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L738[03:51:47] <ade124> Anyone remember Modloader and ModloaderMP (Still haven't developed any MC mods to this day so I can't judge)
L739[03:51:54] <Saphire> Peelz: scala is language to machine code transpilers
L740[03:51:55] <Izaya> ah I remember modloader
L741[03:51:56] <peelz> Saphire: Why use Elixir over Erlang? better syntax :p
L742[03:51:58] <Izaya> delete META-INF
L743[03:51:59] <BloodyRain2k> oh damn, that were times
L744[03:52:00] <DeeJayh> Izaya, I can create .shrc in my home folder and run commands for startup, correct?
L745[03:52:03] <Saphire> Izaya: oh yeah
L746[03:52:04] <BloodyRain2k> ugh
L747[03:52:07] * BloodyRain2k gets nightmares
L748[03:52:09] <peelz> Saphire: yeah, well, close enough lol
L749[03:52:09] <Izaya> DeeJayh: I think so
L750[03:52:11] <asie> ade124: I do
L751[03:52:16] <Izaya> could also be a lua script, I dunno though
L752[03:52:18] <Saphire> ID CONFLICTS
L753[03:52:20] <Saphire> Guys
L754[03:52:21] * Izaya doesn't tend to run OpenOS
L755[03:52:24] <Saphire> Do you remember those?
L756[03:52:28] <DeeJayh> Izaya, One way to find out! I'll let you know
L757[03:52:32] <ade124> Oh yeah, META-INF *insert nostalgia*
L758[03:52:33] <DeeJayh> what do you run?
L759[03:52:34] <ade124> Oh god the ID conflicts
L760[03:52:36] <BloodyRain2k> you can probably just add "cd /boot" to .shrc DeeJayh
L761[03:52:48] <BloodyRain2k> edit .shrc
L762[03:52:48] * Izaya uses MultICE ( https://github.com/XeonSquared/multice )
L763[03:53:03] <Saphire> BloodyRain2k: or edit whatever puts user into /home
L764[03:53:18] <BloodyRain2k> funny enough: when I set up my MC install I DID get ID conflicts with one mod
L765[03:53:23] <DeeJayh> Izaya, thank you, I'll check it out
L766[03:53:33] <BloodyRain2k> forgot which though
L767[03:53:36] <Izaya> DeeJayh: it's not really usable yet
L768[03:53:37] <BloodyRain2k> PR maybe?
L769[03:53:41] <Izaya> but you can do remote login and stuff!
L770[03:53:50] <Izaya> http://pb.i0i0.me/p/FqWGjmM6
L771[03:53:52] <Saphire> Hah, I managed to have ic2, portal, redpower, thaumcraft and bunch of small things in /one/ instance
L772[03:54:01] <DeeJayh> Izaya, then why do you use it? lol
L773[03:54:04] <BloodyRain2k> I did too, at one time
L774[03:54:07] <Saphire> After fixing dozens of Id condos
L775[03:54:08] <BloodyRain2k> minus portal
L776[03:54:08] <peelz> Saphire: what'd you mean by a 500 MB environment? You meant transpilers (Babel?), NPM... or just the Node.js runtime?
L777[03:54:10] <Saphire> *conflicts
L778[03:54:11] <DeeJayh> is the CLI linux-esque?
L779[03:54:12] <BloodyRain2k> instead I also had BC
L780[03:54:16] <Saphire> Oh oh oh oh oh!
L781[03:54:17] <Izaya> DeeJayh: because I'm like the only dev
L782[03:54:23] <DeeJayh> ahh
L783[03:54:32] <Saphire> I got Better Than Wolves run along with forge!
L784[03:54:33] <DeeJayh> maybe I'll jump on that with you, gotta see what you're planning
L785[03:54:34] <Saphire> Once
L786[03:54:41] <Izaya> it'll be more useful eventually
L787[03:54:52] <DeeJayh> added `cd /` to .shrc and good to go
L788[03:54:53] <Izaya> but I mean I can run remote login on a microcontroller so I'm pretty happy
L789[03:54:57] <BloodyRain2k> luckily now you don't even need to sort the damn mods in order anymore so they overwrite the core parts of the game in the right order because the fucker couldn't add an API...
L790[03:55:16] <Saphire> BloodyRain2k: heh
L791[03:55:26] <Saphire> Jar mods were fun
L792[03:55:37] * Izaya had Better than Wolves and ComputerCraft in 1.1 at one point
L793[03:55:58] <BloodyRain2k> biggest issue I'm running into these days is modders not telling you which libaries you need and you only find out from the error when you try to run MC without them...
L794[03:55:59] <peelz> %tell Mimiru could you make your bot translate username occurrences to Discord mentions?
L795[03:55:59] <Saphire> Is btw even alive?
L796[03:55:59] <MichiBot> peelz: Mimiru will be notified of this message when next seen.
L797[03:56:06] <ade124> I still remmeber the 3500 minecraft.jar files I had in the .minecraft folder
L798[03:56:29] <BloodyRain2k> that guy also made a KSP mod in the same style
L799[03:56:58] <Izaya> DeeJayh: tl;dr I'm doing a coop multitasking OS with reasonable networking capabilities
L800[03:57:09] <Izaya> it's meant to be relatively simple but also useful
L801[03:57:14] <DeeJayh> Izaya, we all had computercraft at one point, then we realized the power available here.
L802[03:57:24] <DeeJayh> I love your philosophy behind it
L803[03:57:25] <BloodyRain2k> or found RP2
L804[03:57:26] <DeeJayh> I'm interested
L805[03:57:29] <BloodyRain2k> back then
L806[03:57:35] <ade124> The closest thing to a total conversion in KSP is realism overhaul I think
L807[03:58:13] <ade124> My story for discovering OC is one I really don't want to talk about
L808[03:58:17] <Saphire> Izaya: plan9?
L809[03:58:18] <BloodyRain2k> lol
L810[03:58:20] <Saphire> Wait
L811[03:58:34] <Saphire> ... How the hell that bell os was called?
L812[03:58:37] <Izaya> so far I have networking, including networking over the internet, multiple interactive or non-interactive sessions, a filesystem and related stuff
L813[03:58:38] <BloodyRain2k> does it involve porn ade124 ? :P
L814[03:58:45] <Izaya> Saphire: plan 9 from outer space
L815[03:58:54] <Izaya> unless you mean inferno
L816[03:58:57] <Izaya> unless you mean unix
L817[03:58:57] <ade124> It involves 8 year old me
L818[03:59:02] <Izaya> they did a lot of OSes man
L819[03:59:11] <peelz> BloodyRain2k: hey, I just realized... the quad cell setup may consume more uranium. That's exactly what I want -- more plutonium!
L820[03:59:30] <BloodyRain2k> in that case you're indeed better off with quads
L821[03:59:34] <peelz> ?
L822[03:59:46] <BloodyRain2k> I personally don't care because one produces the same as the other
L823[03:59:59] <peelz> ?
L824[04:00:09] <BloodyRain2k> and since plutonium is only used to make just as good cheaper rods I see no point in wasting the uranium ones just to make the cheaper ones
L825[04:00:23] <BloodyRain2k> or atleast that's the only plutonium use I know of
L826[04:00:25] * Izaya really needs to get his clustering working, at least for I/O
L827[04:00:27] <peelz> wait, cheaper rods?
L828[04:00:30] <BloodyRain2k> MOX
L829[04:00:34] <peelz> never used MOX
L830[04:00:38] <peelz> Is MOX better or worse?
L831[04:00:39] <peelz> :C
L832[04:00:40] <Izaya> I could do like, terminal multiplexers so easily
L833[04:00:52] <peelz> I figured it was superior to uranium
L834[04:00:54] <Izaya> if one computer can support 3 screens
L835[04:00:57] <BloodyRain2k> you make them with plutonium, you need less uranium for them so they're "cheaper", output's the same though
L836[04:01:04] <peelz> oh
L837[04:01:10] <BloodyRain2k> also you CAN run them hotter
L838[04:01:21] <BloodyRain2k> as in they output more heat the hotter they are or something
L839[04:01:30] <BloodyRain2k> but hf trying to keep the reactor from melting then
L840[04:01:48] <peelz> Oh you mean using them with 75% core heat or something like that?
L841[04:01:58] <BloodyRain2k> so what do you need the plutonium for when you didn't need it for that? O.o
L842[04:02:09] <BloodyRain2k> yeah maybe, I only read it fleetingly somewhere
L843[04:02:19] <BloodyRain2k> for my design it makes no difference because it's a cold reactor
L844[04:02:23] <peelz> Eh, whatever
L845[04:02:29] <peelz> plutonium sounds bad-ass
L846[04:02:32] <peelz> so I'll take it
L847[04:02:32] <peelz> lol
L848[04:02:33] <BloodyRain2k> same as yours, both never heat up (unless the cooling fails)
L849[04:02:39] <BloodyRain2k> lol
L850[04:03:10] <peelz> What mod adds slope blocks like these? http://tinyurl.com/kxgjp69
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L852[04:03:32] <BloodyRain2k> probably carpenter
L853[04:03:40] <peelz> does it affect world-gen?
L854[04:03:47] <BloodyRain2k> nope
L855[04:03:48] <peelz> dungeon loot?
L856[04:03:52] <BloodyRain2k> not afaik atleast
L857[04:03:55] <peelz> hm okay
L858[04:03:58] <BloodyRain2k> you just make frame blocks that you can skin
L859[04:04:05] <BloodyRain2k> caster uses them too in his LP
L860[04:04:31] <peelz> frame blocks?
L861[04:05:07] <DeeJayh> all these years and creepers are still the bane of my fucking existence
L862[04:05:12] <peelz> lol
L863[04:05:26] <BloodyRain2k> chickencore > disable their damage
L864[04:05:35] <BloodyRain2k> and yeah, creepers are eternal dickbags
L865[04:05:44] <DeeJayh> what fun is that though
L866[04:06:03] <BloodyRain2k> what fun is to have one randomly make it into your base and blow up tons of storages?
L867[04:06:18] <peelz> BloodyRain2k: REINFORCED STONE! >:)
L868[04:06:29] <BloodyRain2k> besides, I get my fun from building, not from losing my storages and REbuilding
L869[04:06:47] <BloodyRain2k> how does that prevent it from blowing up the drawers?
L870[04:06:59] <peelz> BloodyRain2k: bunker up? lol idk
L871[04:07:09] <peelz> IMO, it's just one of the hazards in MC
L872[04:07:14] <peelz> You gotta be careful out there
L873[04:07:46] <BloodyRain2k> that's the one nice thing about MC, you can (if you can find the right ones) mod it so you can enjoy it the most, and I definitely don't enjoy extremist dickbags
L874[04:08:00] <Izaya> my approach was generally to build small, simple bases, make sure it's well lit, then dig down
L875[04:08:39] <DeeJayh> I use airlocks
L876[04:08:50] <DeeJayh> so the worst I ever lose, like just now, was an entrance
L877[04:09:25] <BloodyRain2k> I don't like building bunkers, on the outside
L878[04:09:35] <BloodyRain2k> I just build a small nice house, then the bunker below
L879[04:09:56] <BloodyRain2k> and I still had stuff in the house anyways because I started there and yeah, somewhen it got dickbag'd
L880[04:10:07] <peelz> BloodyRain2k: Isn't there some mod that adds tesla coils that zaps only the aggro mobs?
L881[04:10:14] <BloodyRain2k> dunno
L882[04:10:22] <BloodyRain2k> I think IC2 had that at one point
L883[04:10:30] <peelz> Yeah, it does on my game
L884[04:10:33] <BloodyRain2k> they were free for all though
L885[04:10:36] <peelz> but it zaps EVERYTHING, including you lol
L886[04:10:40] <peelz> yeah lol
L887[04:10:41] <BloodyRain2k> ^
L888[04:10:47] <peelz> I think Immibis had something that would zap mobs only
L889[04:10:48] <BloodyRain2k> that's how I remember them xD
L890[04:10:50] <peelz> haha
L891[04:10:56] <DeeJayh> needs to right an OC script with a windchime that lures all creepers to it and ignites a 238 nuke
L892[04:11:06] <peelz> jesus lol
L893[04:11:16] <BloodyRain2k> was fun trying them out "hey what's this" *hooks it up to the powerline* "OWW OWW OWW OWW OWW"
L894[04:11:31] <peelz> *stuffs creeper inside the nuke*
L895[04:11:59] <peelz> BloodyRain2k: lolol
L896[04:12:03] <BloodyRain2k> I just play without creeper damage, they still cause ME damage, just not the terrain, works for me
L897[04:12:18] <BloodyRain2k> I also blocked enderdicks from placing and stealing dirt everywhere
L898[04:12:20] <BloodyRain2k> fuck them
L899[04:12:52] <peelz> BloodyRain2k: yeah, that's what I do when I play with 2+ other players, but I generally keep world damage enabled when playing in single player (1-2 players)
L900[04:13:04] <peelz> Oh yeah, endermen are so fucking annoying
L901[04:13:13] <peelz> I always disable endermen griefing
L902[04:13:40] <BloodyRain2k> even if creepers don't blow up my things, the holes they leave around are still bothering me, and I can't be bothered to fix their shit, so I just fixed them instead xD
L903[04:13:48] <DeeJayh> god for the life of me I can't remember this series I used to watch about minecraft
L904[04:13:58] <BloodyRain2k> yogscast?...
L905[04:14:07] <DeeJayh> it was like, in the 3d rendered background, but with animated characters
L906[04:14:13] <DeeJayh> a real friendly southern belle enderman
L907[04:14:17] <DeeJayh> dumb zombie
L908[04:14:22] <DeeJayh> pissed off skeleton
L909[04:14:34] <DeeJayh> they went on adventures together
L910[04:14:48] <DeeJayh> I think there's a slime
L911[04:14:50] <BloodyRain2k> doesn't ring a bell
L912[04:14:50] <DeeJayh> man
L913[04:15:34] <DeeJayh> MOB SQUAD
L914[04:15:36] <DeeJayh> omg
L915[04:15:45] <DeeJayh> if any of you haven't watched mob squad
L916[04:15:46] <peelz> BloodyRain2k: I can't play MC vanilla anymore lol... it's so boring. The only thing I like playing is IC2 MC (+ a bunch of other mods) and skyblock. Skyblock is fun... oh geez so many memories lol
L917[04:15:53] <DeeJayh> you need to get on youtube right now
L918[04:16:00] <DeeJayh> and get ready to slap some knes
L919[04:16:03] <DeeJayh> knees*
L920[04:16:12] <BloodyRain2k> I played vanilla MC, until I figured out how to install mods
L921[04:16:17] <peelz> haha
L922[04:16:33] <BloodyRain2k> then only 2 more times because I wanted to check out a newer version than my mods were up to
L923[04:16:35] <peelz> I played MC Vanilla for quite a while... probably until 1.8-1.9 beta.
L924[04:16:38] <DeeJayh> yea once you figure out mods you never go back
L925[04:16:54] <peelz> ;p
L926[04:17:15] <DeeJayh> seriously though, all of you, go watch mob squad right now
L927[04:17:17] <DeeJayh> I'll wait
L928[04:17:18] <BloodyRain2k> if you can enjoy vanilla mc you are blessed, if you can't you're fucked, thanks to the rich asshole not considering an API important
L929[04:17:20] <Saphire> I make mountain bases
L930[04:17:22] * DeeJayh huffs impatiently
L931[04:17:32] <Saphire> And...
L932[04:17:37] <BloodyRain2k> I'm watching caster play MC
L933[04:17:43] <Saphire> Most of the time? I end up with underground biodome
L934[04:17:47] <DeeJayh> Well write it down
L935[04:17:49] <Saphire> ... Okay all the time
L936[04:18:03] <Izaya> When I find ravines I like to fill then with plants
L937[04:18:06] <Saphire> And behind-the-wall automated production
L938[04:18:11] <DeeJayh> Saphire, same, always hiding in the side of a mountain
L939[04:18:34] <BloodyRain2k> I like to build a small house on a small hill with nice view, then build a vault below it
L940[04:18:44] <Saphire> DeeJayh: well, not hiding. I usually end up with a nice panoramic window
L941[04:18:51] <Saphire> Or a balcony, or similar
L942[04:19:04] <DeeJayh> Yea occasionally I go with the "wizard tower"
L943[04:19:04] <BloodyRain2k> I did that once too
L944[04:19:10] <Saphire> En
L945[04:19:12] <Saphire> 8 eh
L946[04:19:14] <BloodyRain2k> carved a home into a cliff with a big window
L947[04:19:15] <DeeJayh> but usually only when I have thaumcraft to lock it down
L948[04:19:19] <Saphire> Towers are nuh
L949[04:19:24] <DeeJayh> never saw mine
L950[04:19:27] <BloodyRain2k> I have a mushroom farm tower
L951[04:19:29] <DeeJayh> woulda shat a pickle
L952[04:19:30] <Saphire> Too.. hard to expand
L953[04:19:30] <peelz> BloodyRain2k DeeJayh: For me, I played vanilla survival during early beta MC, 1.7-1.9 I played mostly with redstone and pistons, and late beta was mostly Bukkit (plugins and server-side "mods", Spout, etc.)
L954[04:19:30] <peelz> Everything after that was mostly Forge, Skyblock and occasional random one-off worlds with friends.
L955[04:19:52] <Saphire> You either build it to be huge, which takes a lot of time, or make a small one that you can not expand
L956[04:19:55] <BloodyRain2k> I've been playing with RP2 before it was RP2 (as in just RP)
L957[04:19:59] <Izaya> I did a wizard tower in Minetest at one point
L958[04:20:02] <BloodyRain2k> that was back at 1.2.5 or before even
L959[04:20:05] <Izaya> built on the entrance to a huge cave
L960[04:20:13] <Izaya> everything I build seems to be at least partially underground
L961[04:20:17] <Saphire> And most of the things will be in the base, or in some kind of huge floor structure
L962[04:20:24] <peelz> BloodyRain2k: oh yeah, Red Power 2 ?
L963[04:20:26] <peelz> That was great
L964[04:20:29] <Saphire> Izaya: because underground things don't need to care about exteriors
L965[04:20:33] <Saphire> Only interior
L966[04:20:38] <Izaya> Saphire: or interiors really
L967[04:20:38] <peelz> Bloodyrain2k: I played MC 1.2.5 and 1.4.7 for sooo long
L968[04:20:43] <BloodyRain2k> same
L969[04:20:46] <Izaya> you don't need to look at your machine room for the most part
L970[04:20:48] <BloodyRain2k> mainly because RP2...
L971[04:20:51] <peelz> ^
L972[04:20:55] <Saphire> Izaya: hey, I value my smooth brick walls and wooden floors!
L973[04:20:58] <peelz> BloodyRain2k: I only just recently switched to 1.7.10 (because of Project Red)
L974[04:20:58] <Izaya> or your giant chunk-sized automated storage system
L975[04:21:08] <Izaya> Saphire: I tend to do stone brick walls and wooden floors
L976[04:21:12] <DeeJayh> Yea I'm using FTB Beyond
L977[04:21:13] <BloodyRain2k> that supposed update post 1.4.6 that was supposed to come out years ago is still not out xD
L978[04:21:19] <Izaya> but yeah
L979[04:21:22] <peelz> lolol
L980[04:21:22] <Saphire> BloodyRain2k: uh
L981[04:21:27] <BloodyRain2k> I miss my frames quarry ;_;
L982[04:21:32] <Saphire> Uh
L983[04:21:33] <peelz> same :c
L984[04:21:34] <DeeJayh> I miss thaumcraft...
L985[04:21:38] <Saphire> There are mods for that
L986[04:21:40] <DeeJayh> Makes DeeJayh a sad boys
L987[04:21:41] <peelz> Yeah
L988[04:21:42] <peelz> I know
L989[04:21:45] <Izaya> I mean if I have a giant from-sealevel-to-bedrock room for storagwe
L990[04:21:46] <DeeJayh> yes, multiple
L991[04:21:47] <Izaya> storage
L992[04:21:48] <BloodyRain2k> even though a big part of it one day dissolved because a chunk fucked up
L993[04:21:56] <peelz> Saphire: MCFrames are really damn laggy though
L994[04:21:56] <Izaya> I'm just gonna coat the walls in obsidian and move on
L995[04:22:10] <Saphire> Then use another one of the difference variants?
L996[04:22:16] <BloodyRain2k> RP2 was nice because all the parts were MEANT to work with each other
L997[04:22:40] <BloodyRain2k> PR pipes don't even have conductive versions and the block breaker triggers from the front face which is retarded and design breaking
L998[04:22:56] <Izaya> omnidimensional frame engines...
L999[04:22:59] <DeeJayh> df
L1000[04:22:59] <BloodyRain2k> PR is barely useful past simple circuit wiring
L1001[04:23:03] <DeeJayh> LOL oops
L1002[04:23:22] <BloodyRain2k> the routing pipes are awesome though, if they don't fuck up
L1003[04:23:31] <Forecaster> DeeJayh: shame!
L1004[04:23:31] <BloodyRain2k> they hate forestry though
L1005[04:23:34] <Forecaster> ultimate shame!
L1006[04:23:45] <DeeJayh> atleast it wasn't my password
L1007[04:23:49] <DeeJayh> that's always fun
L1008[04:23:54] <Forecaster> 12345
L1009[04:23:55] <Forecaster> oops
L1010[04:23:58] <BloodyRain2k> 12345678
L1011[04:24:13] <Forecaster> hah mine is more secure!
L1012[04:24:19] <BloodyRain2k> ?
L1013[04:24:24] <BloodyRain2k> how, mine's longer
L1014[04:24:28] <Forecaster> because it has fewer numbers to you can guess!
L1015[04:24:34] <BloodyRain2k> ...
L1016[04:24:37] <Forecaster> that means less change to get them correct right? :D
L1017[04:24:41] <Forecaster> chance*
L1018[04:24:43] <Forecaster> dammit
L1019[04:24:46] <BloodyRain2k> that doesn't even make sense
L1020[04:24:53] <Forecaster> I know ;P
L1021[04:24:57] <BloodyRain2k> ok xD
L1022[04:24:57] <Izaya> it would if it were hangman
L1023[04:25:00] <peelz> Saphire: "Then use another one of the difference variants?" There are no variants for MCFrames. AlwaysInMotion/RemainInMotion is... meh IMO (badly designed? Idk... I don't like it)
L1024[04:25:02] <DeeJayh> if forecasterPassword < brPassword then
L1025[04:25:04] <DeeJayh> no one cares
L1026[04:25:05] <DeeJayh> end
L1027[04:25:12] * DeeJayh takes a bow
L1028[04:25:27] <BloodyRain2k> syntax error after no
L1029[04:25:28] <DeeJayh> ls
L1030[04:25:30] <DeeJayh> omfg
L1031[04:25:31] <DeeJayh> lol
L1032[04:25:34] <Forecaster> xD
L1033[04:26:06] <Forecaster> I can list all the map tile files I'm working with if you like :P
L1034[04:26:12] <Forecaster> there's only a few thousand of them
L1035[04:26:18] <BloodyRain2k> I'll pass
L1036[04:26:20] <Forecaster> aw
L1037[04:26:22] <peelz> Saphire: my elevator (using MCFrames) makes my FPS go from 144 to 60-80 while moving... lol
L1038[04:26:28] <Izaya> shift-insert, control-y
L1039[04:26:36] <peelz> Saphire: that's without Optifine anyway
L1040[04:26:50] <BloodyRain2k> if I'd make an elevator I'd just use RC rails
L1041[04:26:56] <peelz> Ew
L1042[04:27:08] <Izaya> I'd use those lifts that you jump and they teleport you up
L1043[04:27:14] <BloodyRain2k> there's the vertical ones and wiring a setup up for that is far easier than dealing with derpy moving blocks
L1044[04:27:26] <Forecaster> in 1.7? pneumaticcraft elevator
L1045[04:27:39] <BloodyRain2k> that one's not bad but twitchy
L1046[04:27:47] <peelz> BloodyRain2k: yeah... but it's lame lol
L1047[04:27:48] <Izaya> pneumaticcraft is wonderful
L1048[04:28:06] <Izaya> it has a command for a drone to deliver items to you
L1049[04:28:08] <BloodyRain2k> you know what's lame? teleporters :P
L1050[04:28:18] <peelz> BloodyRain2k: lol, never tried them
L1051[04:28:20] <BloodyRain2k> pneumaticcraft drones are definitely cool
L1052[04:28:34] <peelz> BloodyRain2k: when I built my elevator, I was going for all-in for the industrial look ?
L1053[04:28:41] <BloodyRain2k> I personally would want it's drones programmable with OC : /
L1054[04:30:45] <peelz> BloodyRain2k: dis my elevator http://tinyurl.com/l73zlru
L1055[04:30:57] <peelz> http://tinyurl.com/ms7kzs4
L1056[04:31:04] <peelz> http://tinyurl.com/nykyw7b
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L1058[04:31:22] <peelz> Elevator with an industrial look ?
L1059[04:35:53] <Forecaster> BloodyRain2k: you can send instructions to PC drones with computers
L1060[04:36:13] <Forecaster> there's a "receive commands from computer puzzle piece"
L1061[04:36:32] <Forecaster> and then a block that you connect to the computer that sends the instructions
L1062[04:36:39] <Forecaster> I forget how it works exactly
L1063[04:36:52] <Forecaster> works with both CC and OC I believe
L1064[04:37:20] <BloodyRain2k> that's nice but I'd prefer to just program them fully, just because
L1065[04:37:37] <Forecaster> kay
L1066[04:37:43] <BloodyRain2k> but the 4kb of lua you have to work with on the OC ones is just out of my level
L1067[04:38:18] * Saphire shivers
L1068[04:38:19] <Forecaster> someone could write something that can parse a script into a PC program
L1069[04:38:23] <Saphire> FONTS ARE LOOKING DIFFERENT
L1070[04:38:25] <Saphire> AAAA
L1071[04:38:34] <BloodyRain2k> the ONLY way I could think of remotely so far to get them programmable is put just enough on the rom to download the actual program through wireless into the ram and then run it
L1072[04:38:47] <Forecaster> a PC program is stored as json and can be easily imported into a programmer
L1073[04:38:55] * Izaya has happily used them without having them load external code
L1074[04:39:27] <BloodyRain2k> hush wizardy
L1075[04:39:32] <Forecaster> programming a PC drone is fine natively though...
L1076[04:39:38] * Saphire shivers
L1077[04:39:39] <Forecaster> I don't see why you'd need lua
L1078[04:39:46] <Saphire> Oh gosh that was horrible
L1079[04:40:00] * Saphire clings to her condensed PragmataPro
L1080[04:40:03] <BloodyRain2k> yeah, it's definitely nice, didn't say it wasn't, it's just that I want to program them in that way, only that I can't do with 4kb
L1081[04:40:11] * Izaya throws SGI Screen at Saphire
L1082[04:40:22] <Forecaster> BloodyRain2k: 4kb? what?
L1083[04:40:30] <Forecaster> I'm talking about pneumaticcraft drones
L1084[04:40:42] <BloodyRain2k> and I'm about programming the OC ones
L1085[04:40:50] <BloodyRain2k> the puzzling for the PC ones is nice
L1086[04:40:58] <BloodyRain2k> saw that often enough in the LP :P
L1087[04:41:20] <Saphire> Izaya: hm?
L1088[04:41:24] <Izaya> maybe I should implement befunge for drones
L1089[04:41:55] <Forecaster> what's befunge?
L1090[04:42:13] <Izaya> 2D eosteric language
L1091[04:42:17] <Izaya> probably butchered that word
L1092[04:42:26] * Forecaster blinks
L1093[04:42:44] <Izaya> https://esolangs.org/wiki/Befunge
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L1095[04:43:00] <BloodyRain2k> also what I meant with programming the PC drones was actually the OC ones being programmable with more than 4kb rom and also having the ability to use tools, since they have pretty much everything else that PC ones also have, minus a sense of where-the-fuck-am-i
L1096[04:43:16] <Inari> Two tells, you crazy people
L1097[04:43:31] <BloodyRain2k> only two? man, I gotta join in next time
L1098[04:43:31] <Inari> gamax92: Why otherkin?
L1099[04:43:32] <Inari> AmandaC: What?
L1100[04:43:39] <Forecaster> sangar scoffs in the distance
L1101[04:43:46] <Inari> Heh
L1102[04:46:49] <Izaya> am I losing my shit or was there a mod for some strategy game that lets you try to take over the US as either the NCR or Ceasar's Leigon?
L1103[04:47:14] <Inari> I'm losing my shit daily
L1104[04:47:16] <Inari> don't worry, its normal
L1105[04:47:43] <Inari> In fact you should be concerned if you don't lose your shit regularily
L1106[04:55:09] <Inari> https://simg4.gelbooru.com//images/9b/28/9b289b9647ece7b436b615e553894066.png I still think she's super cute
L1107[04:56:46] <Forecaster> surpise levels: 0%
L1108[04:56:55] <DeeJayh> ^
L1109[04:57:31] <DeeJayh> I was like "I bet it's an anime character" *click* Moving on
L1110[04:57:46] <Inari> :P
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L1112[04:59:57] <Mettaton_Fab> is very cute
L1113[05:00:52] * Inari puts snail essence on Forecaster's face
L1114[05:01:22] <Forecaster> as long as it's not mixed with mutagen
L1115[05:01:26] <DeeJayh> If girls like that existed, it might be worth getting excited for, but that's not the case
L1116[05:01:38] <Inari> HAha
L1117[05:01:50] <Inari> DeeJayh's so cliche :D
L1118[05:02:19] <DeeJayh> I just have a realistic expectation of what girls actually are
L1119[05:02:58] <DeeJayh> unfortunately most women look a lot more like this one http://i27.tinypic.com/20ixm5v.jpg
L1120[05:03:00] <Inari> Ah :p I thought you meant that as in "I'm only interested in 2d girls" But seems you mean it more as "I don't get excited over cute pictures because real girls aren't as cute" or something
L1121[05:03:10] <Inari> Haha
L1122[05:03:49] <Inari> I dunno, theres plenty cute girls :P
L1123[05:04:19] <Inari> Also I like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQmEERvqq70 way too much
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L1125[05:05:07] <Inari> DeeJayh: And I don't understand your logic there. It's like, "Getting exciteda bout games woudl be cool but reality is more boring"
L1126[05:05:10] <DeeJayh> I'm mildly disappointed
L1127[05:05:16] <Inari> ?
L1128[05:05:53] <DeeJayh> I don't know I guess I just expect more and always prepare for less
L1129[05:06:04] <DeeJayh> So I set expectations for things I'm prepared not to receive
L1130[05:06:10] <Inari> ?
L1131[05:06:12] <DeeJayh> Maybe I have a mental disorder
L1132[05:06:20] <DeeJayh> Still talking women lol
L1133[05:06:28] <Inari> Well but like
L1134[05:06:46] <Inari> Why does expectation of reality not allow you to enjoy something cute if unreal :P
L1135[05:08:00] <DeeJayh> Probably for the same reason that traps are semi-attractive, because they're tangible.
L1136[05:09:06] <Inari> Traps are attractive if they are atrtactive. I don't think it really matters if they are physically guy or girl if they look lik ean attractive girl to you
L1137[05:09:22] <DeeJayh> Yea, but they're real
L1138[05:09:43] <Inari> I guess?
L1139[05:09:47] <Inari> But so far attractive girls?
L1140[05:09:50] <Inari> I don't follow
L1141[05:09:57] <Inari> *But so are
L1142[05:10:29] <DeeJayh> Right, but that was a drawing.
L1143[05:10:42] <DeeJayh> let me re-explain
L1144[05:10:47] <Inari> :p
L1145[05:10:48] <DeeJayh> if there was a real girl dressed like that, I'd be like damn...
L1146[05:10:53] <DeeJayh> but it's a drawing
L1147[05:10:57] <DeeJayh> I see the beauty
L1148[05:11:02] <DeeJayh> just not the attraction
L1149[05:11:17] <DeeJayh> idk, it's late, my explanation game isn't on point I guess
L1150[05:11:38] <Inari> Well Miko outfits tend to be kinda cute in general, though mostly not as lavish as that outfit
L1151[05:12:20] <DeeJayh> Izaya, what's OCEmu? is there legitimately an opencomputers emulator? lol
L1152[05:12:35] <Izaya> yes
L1153[05:12:44] <Izaya> https://github.com/gamax92/ocemu
L1154[05:12:56] <DeeJayh> Inari, also, there is no greater artist than S3RL
L1155[05:13:04] <DeeJayh> Izaya, nice, ty
L1156[05:13:24] <Inari> Meh
L1157[05:13:37] <Izaya> in that genre specifically, I hope
L1158[05:13:46] <DeeJayh> lol, I just figured I'd throw that out there
L1159[05:13:49] <DeeJayh> and yea, of course
L1160[05:13:54] <Inari> Can't say I ever liked any of the S3RL songs I heard
L1161[05:14:00] <DeeJayh> I thought that was inplied, sorry
L1162[05:14:06] <DeeJayh> REALLY?
L1163[05:14:13] <DeeJayh> That's.... surprising?
L1164[05:14:14] <Izaya> I dunno I hear people say it in general a lot
L1165[05:14:20] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbKu4Xx0_Us ~
L1166[05:14:20] <MichiBot> 大森靖子「イミテーションガール」MusicClip | length: 4m 38s | Likes: 3,217 Dislikes: 62 Views: 761,187 | by 大森靖子 Youtube Channel | Published On 2/12/2014
L1167[05:14:29] <Izaya> usually have to hit them over the head with Led Zepplin or Queen or something along those lines
L1168[05:15:01] <DeeJayh> Yea, no I am very open minded about music, there aren't a lot of genres I haven't heard
L1169[05:15:24] <Inari> I like most genres I guess. Just depends on if I like the individual song.
L1170[05:15:34] <Inari> That said dubstep is one of those I don't think I know any songs of that I like :P
L1171[05:15:41] <DeeJayh> I got one for you
L1172[05:15:52] <DeeJayh> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Q9rewnLFYw
L1173[05:15:52] <MichiBot> Flux Pavilion - I Can't Stop | length: 2m 28s | Likes: 568,242 Dislikes: 15,011 Views: 82,187,205 | by UKF Dubstep | Published On 6/8/2010
L1174[05:16:03] <DeeJayh> probably my favorite original true dubstep track
L1175[05:16:17] <Inari> Real nigthcore is also hard to find
L1176[05:16:25] <DeeJayh> yea it's always a mash
L1177[05:16:33] <DeeJayh> same with dub
L1178[05:16:35] <Inari> Well most are just sped up, instead of edited more
L1179[05:16:46] <Izaya> isn't nightcore legitimately just sped and pitched up?
L1180[05:16:47] <DeeJayh> you always get some elements of trap or slash
L1181[05:16:55] <DeeJayh> no lol
L1182[05:16:56] <Inari> Izaya: Nah, but thats the lazy way to do it
L1183[05:17:10] <Izaya> thought that was the definition
L1184[05:18:31] <DeeJayh> Nightcore is characterized by a sped-up melody (sometimes), fast rhythmic beat (usually), and ALWAYS higher than normal pitch. Almost all nightcore music are original songs nightcored (remixed into nightcore) by nightcore fans.
L1185[05:18:35] <DeeJayh> According to reddit
L1186[05:18:46] <DeeJayh> but, it's the style of music
L1187[05:18:52] <Inari> Yeah but most really just speed it up
L1188[05:18:56] <Inari> Cause they're lazy or don't get it
L1189[05:18:58] * Inari shrugs
L1190[05:18:59] <Izaya> generally done to EDM
L1191[05:19:15] <DeeJayh> you can't speed/pitch up amish yodelling and call it nightcore
L1192[05:19:22] <Inari> that I can't stop sounds horrible xD
L1193[05:19:38] <Izaya> DeeJayh: I'd call it funny
L1194[05:19:39] <DeeJayh> You're crazy... That song makes my hair stand
L1195[05:19:41] <Izaya> I sorta want to hear it
L1196[05:19:46] <DeeJayh> lol
L1197[05:20:19] <DeeJayh> one day I thought "Fucking barf" about a post someone made. I was like, I'm gonna get a meme for this and googled that phrase...
L1198[05:20:21] <DeeJayh> Don't
L1199[05:20:22] <DeeJayh> Ever
L1200[05:20:22] <Inari> DeeJayh: It kind of does, in a bad way
L1201[05:20:23] <Inari> :P
L1202[05:20:38] <DeeJayh> Not everyone's cup of tea I guess
L1203[05:20:45] <DeeJayh> To each their own
L1204[05:20:47] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-kf6WhT0PU#t=21m54s ~
L1205[05:20:47] <MichiBot> ♬★1 Hour Ultimate Nightcore Mix #3♬★ | PROMOTION | | length: 1h 13s | Likes: 289 Dislikes: 15 Views: 48,482 | by Mr.Lemon | Published On 19/12/2012
L1206[05:21:43] <DeeJayh> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbJ0aXxpTfM
L1207[05:21:43] <MichiBot> Nightcore - Everytime We Touch | length: 3m 7s | Likes: 120,616 Dislikes: 3,482 Views: 21,191,015 | by Arkadion of Toast | Published On 26/1/2011
L1208[05:21:46] <Inari> I had a better example ones but I forgot it
L1209[05:21:47] <Inari> :P
L1210[05:21:50] ⇦ Quits: Nathan1852 (~Nathan185@HSI-KBW-091-089-189-253.hsi2.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
L1211[05:21:54] <DeeJayh> Mines pretty decent
L1212[05:22:29] <DeeJayh> ungh tiss ungh tiss ungh tiss ungh tiss ungh tiss ungh tiss ungh tiss
L1213[05:22:36] <Inari> Ah its one of those redo mashup thingies
L1214[05:22:39] * DeeJayh spins glowsticks
L1215[05:22:41] <Inari> Eh, I prefer they keep the original song
L1216[05:23:09] <DeeJayh> Agree to disagree then, I think this still fits into the style of original nightcore
L1217[05:23:22] <DeeJayh> being unique and adding flourish doesn't make it not nightcore
L1218[05:23:38] <Inari> Generally I'd want to hear the song advertised though, in a different version of itself
L1219[05:23:40] <Inari> Not other stuff
L1220[05:24:08] <DeeJayh> It mostly is... there's just a little flourish verse in there, otherwise it's the original song
L1221[05:24:23] <Inari> Too much flourish :3
L1222[05:24:26] <DeeJayh> lol
L1223[05:24:34] <Inari> If I want mashup I'll listen to mashup
L1224[05:24:43] <DeeJayh> Picky eaters ;)
L1225[05:24:48] <Inari> :p
L1226[05:25:01] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EdYSWANi3o and then theres that kinda stuff :P
L1227[05:25:01] <MichiBot> keny arkana-le missile est lancé | length: 3m 54s | Likes: 1,934 Dislikes: 57 Views: 862,608 | by fullkenyarkana | Published On 11/4/2008
L1228[05:25:23] <DeeJayh> where do you even find this lol
L1229[05:25:36] <Izaya> youtube
L1230[05:25:40] <DeeJayh> ...
L1231[05:25:41] <Inari> ^
L1232[05:25:53] <Inari> %flip DeeJayh
L1233[05:25:54] <MichiBot> Inari: (╯°□°）╯ɥʎɐſǝǝᗡ
L1234[05:26:03] <DeeJayh> Izaya .. Mean
L1235[05:26:08] <Inari> I'm still trying to find that one song form years ago :|
L1236[05:26:17] <DeeJayh> I just concatenated you with your emotional outburst
L1237[05:26:22] <DeeJayh> How's that make you feel
L1238[05:26:39] <Izaya> mildly sarcastic?
L1239[05:26:42] <Izaya> so no change?
L1240[05:27:07] <Forecaster> +-sarcasm
L1241[05:27:09] * DeeJayh slow claps
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L1243[05:27:20] <Inari> DeeJayh: You should watch acchi kocchi
L1244[05:27:24] ⇦ Parts: awdwdt (webchat@117.157.48.70) ())
L1245[05:27:33] <DeeJayh> why
L1246[05:27:34] <DeeJayh> ever?
L1247[05:27:37] <Inari> It's cute
L1248[05:27:44] <Inari> Deathly cute
L1249[05:27:45] <Inari> :3
L1250[05:27:54] <Izaya> so cute it'll stab you
L1251[05:28:00] <Inari> repeatedly
L1252[05:28:04] <DeeJayh> Don't threaten me with a good time
L1253[05:28:06] <Izaya> with a swordfish?
L1254[05:28:16] <Inari> I don't think taht would be very cute
L1255[05:28:23] <Izaya> yeah no
L1256[05:28:26] <DeeJayh> Shhh I'm watching Acchi Kocchi
L1257[05:28:32] <Inari> :p
L1258[05:28:35] <Inari> It's great
L1259[05:28:40] <Izaya> how weird is the idea of a fish sword rather than a sword fish?
L1260[05:28:44] <DeeJayh> I'll be the judge of that
L1261[05:30:01] * Inari turns DeeJayh into a brolita
L1262[05:30:02] <Inari> :p
L1263[05:30:15] <DeeJayh> I don't enjoy loli =/
L1264[05:30:20] <Inari> Lolita
L1265[05:30:32] <Inari> It's separate from loli
L1266[05:30:42] <DeeJayh> elaborate?
L1267[05:30:47] <Inari> Lolita-fashion?
L1268[05:31:06] <Inari> http://www.kawacura.com/moripress/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/d8b64da4061839f081e7c025500f59ac-350x350.jpg
L1269[05:31:42] <DeeJayh> was that hyphen supposed to be an equal?
L1270[05:31:48] <Inari> No
L1271[05:31:57] <DeeJayh> then I still don't understand
L1272[05:32:06] <Inari> It's a fashon style
L1273[05:32:27] <DeeJayh> so what's the difference between loli and lolita
L1274[05:33:20] <Inari> loli is a big of a vague term, the answers vary a bit on who you ask :P
L1275[05:33:45] <Inari> Genrally it would mean a young girl, someitmes prepubescent. Sometimes only if sexualised, sometimes girls that aren't young but look young are included *shrug*
L1276[05:33:54] <Inari> lolita fashion is just a fashion style
L1277[05:33:59] <Inari> Some say it should be called alice-kei instead
L1278[05:34:15] <Inari> to separate it from the "Lolita" term as its used in the west
L1279[05:34:32] <DeeJayh> Fuck it, change the word for loli, let lolita keeps it's name for being the good thing
L1280[05:35:13] <DeeJayh> I mean, we already had a word for it in the west, I think it's Pedophile.
L1281[05:35:26] <Inari> Nah
L1282[05:35:33] <DeeJayh> So let lolita mean fashion and everyone else can be something else
L1283[05:35:46] <Inari> pedophile refers to people whose primary or exclusive sexual interest lies in prebubescent children
L1284[05:35:58] <Inari> lolita doesn't mean fashion, its a style of fashion :P
L1285[05:36:08] <DeeJayh> you knew what I meant :P
L1286[05:36:47] <Inari> loli comes from loli-con which comes from Lolita complex which is what you kind of mean as pedohpile :P
L1287[05:37:33] <Inari> I think in the beginning lolita fashion spelled itself different than "loli"
L1288[05:37:38] <Inari> To separate themselves from it
L1289[05:38:17] <asie> oh dear
L1290[05:38:18] <Inari> "While Lolita is normally written "ロリータ", many Lolitas choose the variation "ロリィタ", in which the usual "i" is substituted for a small "i"."
L1291[05:38:23] <DeeJayh> This show is ridiculous
L1292[05:38:25] <DeeJayh> btw
L1293[05:38:30] <Inari> Acchi Kocchi?
L1294[05:38:34] <DeeJayh> Correct
L1295[05:38:35] <Inari> It is, but its also super cute
L1296[05:38:36] <asie> whast did i walk into
L1297[05:38:47] <DeeJayh> A huge conversation spanning many topics
L1298[05:38:51] <asie> excellent
L1299[05:38:59] <DeeJayh> Also, you shouldn't walk into things, it's dangerous
L1300[05:39:10] <asie> nah
L1301[05:39:10] <Inari> TRying to explain Lolita fashion and the difference between Lolita and loli int hat case
L1302[05:39:11] <Inari> :P
L1303[05:39:12] <asie> i'll be fine
L1304[05:39:27] <asie> Inari: so you mean the difference between girl and girly? :^)
L1305[05:39:28] <Inari> DeeJayh: Walking into tentacle pits is fun!
L1306[05:39:34] <Inari> asie: Hm?
L1307[05:39:49] <asie> Inari: was trying to draw a bit of a parallel
L1308[05:40:13] * DeeJayh smacks his head
L1309[05:40:17] <DeeJayh> Why
L1310[05:40:20] <DeeJayh> Just... Why
L1311[05:40:23] <Inari> ?
L1312[05:40:23] <asie> DeeJayh: Why not?
L1313[05:40:45] <DeeJayh> Back to this show, it's completely baseless, there isn't even a plot outside of this girl having a crush
L1314[05:40:53] <DeeJayh> Granted, it's one episode
L1315[05:40:58] <DeeJayh> but yea
L1316[05:40:59] <AshIndigo> %choose play pokemon or be lazy
L1317[05:41:01] <MichiBot> AshIndigo: be lazy
L1318[05:41:17] <Inari> DeeJayh: And thats fine as a plot :p
L1319[05:41:20] <asie> baseless shows are fun
L1320[05:41:24] <asie> you can get either random comedy
L1321[05:41:24] <DeeJayh> %choose loli or trap
L1322[05:41:25] <MichiBot> DeeJayh: trap
L1323[05:41:28] <DeeJayh> 4chan it is
L1324[05:41:39] <asie> DeeJayh: 4chan is more of a "why not both?" option
L1325[05:41:43] <DeeJayh> it was a trick question really
L1326[05:41:46] <DeeJayh> lol beat me to it
L1327[05:41:57] <Inari> http://img1.ak.crunchyroll.com/i/spire1/6cd422fb1b348a2b733de1ec58b508771463383842_full.jpg
L1328[05:42:08] <asie> Inari: 2blood4me
L1329[05:42:13] <asie> i'll just pretend it's ketchup
L1330[05:42:17] * AshIndigo washes the blood off
L1331[05:42:27] <DeeJayh> Why was there blood
L1332[05:42:28] <DeeJayh> lol
L1333[05:42:36] <Inari> Because of befriending
L1334[05:42:44] <DeeJayh> Ah, well perfect then
L1335[05:43:34] <DeeJayh> Inari, BE MY BAD BOY BE MY MAN BE MY WEEKEND LOVER BUT DONT BE MY FRIEND
L1336[05:43:38] <DeeJayh> Name that song, go.
L1337[05:43:45] <DeeJayh> %timer 5
L1338[05:43:50] <AshIndigo> 5
L1339[05:43:54] <AshIndigo> 4
L1340[05:43:57] <AshIndigo> 3
L1341[05:43:58] <DeeJayh> LOL
L1342[05:43:59] <asie> 1
L1343[05:44:04] <asie> 1/2
L1344[05:44:05] * Inari shrugs
L1345[05:44:08] <asie> 1/4
L1346[05:44:11] <asie> 1/8
L1347[05:44:11] <AshIndigo> I never said 2!
L1348[05:44:12] <Inari> Googl eit?
L1349[05:44:17] <asie> 1/17
L1350[05:44:20] <asie> 0
L1351[05:44:20] <DeeJayh> Well that's no fun
L1352[05:44:27] <DeeJayh> asie, you rhuined it
L1353[05:44:28] <asie> AshIndigo: I know.
L1354[05:44:31] <asie> DeeJayh: I know.
L1355[05:44:33] <asie> I ruin things.
L1356[05:44:47] <DeeJayh> AshIndigo, I truly appreciate what you did there
L1357[05:44:56] <AshIndigo> Thank you
L1358[05:45:05] <DeeJayh> On some extreme level that should only be deemed for true friendships
L1359[05:45:17] <DeeJayh> like I felt pretty weirded out by the excitement
L1360[05:46:01] <AshIndigo> Heh
L1361[05:46:08] <Inari> <https://ci.memecdn.com/7474933.gif&gt; theres your plot
L1362[05:46:29] <asie> why is there so much lewd in the world
L1363[05:46:30] <DeeJayh> *sigh*
L1364[05:46:37] * DeeJayh sighs
L1365[05:46:37] <AshIndigo> Because Inari
L1366[05:47:01] <DeeJayh> I'm honestly amazed at the speed in which you rendered that
L1367[05:47:11] <Inari> I didn't
L1368[05:47:14] <DeeJayh> That's where my amazement ends, sadly
L1369[05:47:23] <DeeJayh> Ah, well then even my amazement is a lie
L1370[05:47:46] <asie> Inari: Why is there so much lewd in you?
L1371[05:47:52] <Inari> It just came up in a random google search a,nd since you complained about a lack of plot
L1372[05:48:03] <DeeJayh> Theres more than lewd in Inari...
L1373[05:48:05] <DeeJayh> I sense it
L1374[05:48:08] <Inari> asie: Dunno, I've grown it since a young age?
L1375[05:48:55] <DeeJayh> Issue: "Shortcuts are wrong on non-QWERTY keyboards."
L1376[05:49:02] <DeeJayh> I got a solution for you
L1377[05:49:03] * AshIndigo decides to grab his 3ds and try out the water trial again
L1378[05:49:07] <DeeJayh> Get a normal keyboard...
L1379[05:49:17] <Inari> Not that it means I have that many more years than others, but young people more easily takeon things I guess
L1380[05:49:17] <Inari> :p
L1381[05:51:37] <Forecaster> %juggle 5
L1382[05:51:38] * MichiBot juggles with Ebony & Ivory, no tea, cute clothes, Cruxnand & tonka truck
L1383[05:51:39] * MichiBot drops Ebony & Ivory which takes 4 damage
L1384[05:51:40] * MichiBot drops no tea which takes 5 damage
L1385[05:51:41] * MichiBot drops tonka truck which takes 2 damage
L1386[05:51:42] <MichiBot> Oops...
L1387[05:52:15] <Inari> http://i.imgur.com/jjsyiHR.gifv
L1388[05:52:16] <Inari> Bored
L1389[05:53:17] <DeeJayh> When life is at it's worst, there's always jav
L1390[05:53:33] <AshIndigo> Did you drop an a?
L1391[05:53:58] <DeeJayh> I don't know what an a is, but I'm fairly certain I haven't dropped anything
L1392[05:54:05] <Inari> Meh
L1393[05:54:14] <DeeJayh> brb
L1394[05:54:26] <Inari> Most jav is boring, and then theres not much interest in watching those if you aren't doing something lewd, and if I were to to dosmething lewd I'd rather do so with my bf
L1395[05:56:00] <peelz> AshIndigo: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=jav
L1396[05:56:29] <AshIndigo> Oh
L1397[05:56:34] <peelz> Yup.
L1398[05:56:55] <Forecaster> %search urban jav
L1399[05:56:56] <MichiBot> Forecaster: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=jav - *Urban Dictionary: jav*: "An Abreviation of the Japanese Adult Video Industry - Often used in terms of Models and Video Outlets."
L1400[05:57:03] <Forecaster> :P
L1401[05:57:08] <peelz> ic
L1402[05:57:31] <Inari> Do those cmds even work form discord now
L1403[05:57:44] <peelz> %search urban jav
L1404[05:57:46] <MichiBot> peelz: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=jav - *Urban Dictionary: jav*: "An Abreviation of the Japanese Adult Video Industry - Often used in terms of Models and Video Outlets."
L1405[05:57:47] <asie> Inari: heh, relationships
L1406[05:57:55] <peelz> Inari: looks like it does
L1407[05:57:58] <Forecaster> non-dynamic ones do iirc
L1408[05:58:05] <Forecaster> %ohno
L1409[05:58:05] <MichiBot> ohno
L1410[05:58:10] <Forecaster> that's a dynamic module command
L1411[05:58:45] <peelz> Well, I'm off to bed, It's 7 AM already lmao... cya peeps
L1412[05:58:51] <peelz> Well, I'm off to bed, it's 7 AM already lmao... cya peeps
L1413[05:58:56] <Forecaster> %ohno
L1414[05:58:56] <MichiBot> ohno
L1415[05:59:02] <Forecaster> oh that works too
L1416[05:59:04] <Forecaster> kay
L1417[05:59:22] <AshIndigo> Night peelz
L1418[05:59:26] <Inari> ~markov XDjackieXD
L1419[05:59:26] <ocdoc> ok. the network code completion is really nice but DP <3 :D bye @all o/ :) )
L1420[05:59:30] <peelz> cya ?
L1421[06:00:23] <AshIndigo> ~markov ocdoc
L1422[06:00:23] <ocdoc> I have 886 entries in my DB.
L1423[06:01:49] <Inari> ~markov EnderBot2
L1424[06:01:49] <ocdoc> !kick DogeBot Your owner does not have permission to bring you here.
L1425[06:01:57] <AshIndigo> ...
L1426[06:02:11] <AshIndigo> %seen DogeBot
L1427[06:02:11] <MichiBot> DogeBot has not been seen
L1428[06:02:21] <Inari> ~markov DogeBot
L1429[06:02:21] <ocdoc> Please wait ...
L1430[06:02:25] <ocdoc> Nickname does not exist
L1431[06:02:26] <Inari> :<
L1432[06:02:45] <AshIndigo> ~markov Inari
L1433[06:02:45] <Inari> ~markov zsh
L1434[06:02:47] <ocdoc> yet i harshly despise both those operate basedon electric fields and then i get super formal complaint about how a TIS-100 node would be
L1435[06:02:47] <ocdoc> Welcome Vexaton to #OC, the official OpenComputers channel
L1436[06:03:08] ⇨ Joins: DeeJayh-L (~DeeJayh-L@184.91.145.126)
L1437[06:03:12] <Inari> wb
L1438[06:03:29] <DeeJayh-L> ty
L1439[06:03:43] <Inari> Not sure if you read past sayin gbrb
L1440[06:03:52] <DeeJayh-L> You must be the one person I know with join leave notifications turned on
L1441[06:04:09] <AshIndigo> I have em on
L1442[06:04:19] <Inari> I see no reason to turn them off
L1443[06:04:43] <DeeJayh-L> Well, allow me to concede 2 points to you
L1444[06:05:01] <AshIndigo> %jiggle DeeJayh-L
L1445[06:05:02] * MichiBot jiggles DeeJayh-L
L1446[06:05:06] <DeeJayh-L> 1) you never need to know when someone joins/leaves, there's no reason.
L1447[06:05:12] <Inari> Still bored
L1448[06:05:15] <Inari> and lunch is still 55 mins away
L1449[06:05:16] <Inari> :<
L1450[06:05:17] <DeeJayh-L> 2) It's annoying to me, all those inbetweeen messages
L1451[06:05:25] <DeeJayh-L> I await your rebuttal
L1452[06:05:31] <DeeJayh-L> Lunch?
L1453[06:05:36] <Inari> They aren't taht frequent. Ant its good to know
L1454[06:05:37] <DeeJayh-L> It's 7 am here lol
L1455[06:05:44] <Inari> Yeah, timezones
L1456[06:05:44] <Inari> :P
L1457[06:05:48] <Izaya> I have em on
L1458[06:05:54] <AshIndigo> Its 12pm here
L1459[06:06:01] <Izaya> because they tell you when someone's connected or not
L1460[06:06:01] <Inari> Its 1pm here
L1461[06:06:04] <AshIndigo> And oh hey my pokemon evolved
L1462[06:06:20] <DeeJayh-L> nice!
L1463[06:06:25] <DeeJayh-L> which one are you playing?
L1464[06:06:25] * Inari yawns
L1465[06:06:36] <DeeJayh-L> Europe?
L1466[06:06:38] <AshIndigo> Sun
L1467[06:06:40] <Inari> Someone make 3ds 11.4 hackable please
L1468[06:08:00] <AshIndigo> Which model do you have?
L1469[06:08:32] <asie> Inari: already done
L1470[06:08:36] <asie> sighax came out today
L1471[06:08:36] <Inari> o3ds xl, not that it matters from whatI know
L1472[06:08:40] <asie> but you need another 3DS *or* a soldering iron
L1473[06:08:44] <asie> another, hacked 3DS*
L1474[06:08:54] * AshIndigo mails his 3ds to Inari
L1475[06:09:06] <asie> my N3DS is hacked and happy
L1476[06:09:08] <Inari> I have no other 3ds, and technically I'd have a soldering iron, but I'm not destroying my 3ds :P
L1477[06:09:09] <asie> https://asie.pl/Projects/Homebrew/3DS/MegaZeux
L1478[06:09:11] <asie> and so is my homebrew
L1479[06:09:41] <Forecaster> http://theworstthingsforsale.com/2017/05/19/latex-toe-socks/
L1480[06:10:49] <DeeJayh-L> why would you want to hack it?
L1481[06:10:59] <DeeJayh-L> just love it an cherish it
L1482[06:10:59] <AshIndigo> For homebrew fun ;)
L1483[06:11:06] <AshIndigo> And other stuff
L1484[06:12:00] <Inari> asie: How would one even use sighax :P
L1485[06:12:10] <asie> Inari: the guide
L1486[06:12:29] <Inari> "You need ARM9 code execution to run this, see below for details."
L1487[06:13:12] <AshIndigo> Does it have to be that systems nand?
L1488[06:13:45] <Inari> "This guide will work on New 3DS, Old 3DS, and 2DS in all regions on firmware 11.4.0 or below." wait wait
L1489[06:13:47] <Inari> It does now?
L1490[06:15:41] <AshIndigo> "One question I get asked commonly is if a NAND dump from one system can be flashed onto another system. However, the NAND is encrypted with a key that is specific to each console. Therefore, this is not possible."
L1491[06:15:45] <AshIndigo> Sadness
L1492[06:17:27] ⇦ Quits: DeeJayh (~DeeJayh@184-91-145-126.res.bhn.net) (Ping timeout: 186 seconds)
L1493[06:20:49] <Inari> asie: Guess more waiting then
L1494[06:21:11] <asie> AshIndigo: Not quite.
L1495[06:21:14] <asie> Sighax is NAND-independent.
L1496[06:21:16] <asie> But you still need a hardmod.
L1497[06:22:10] <AshIndigo> Hmm :/
L1498[06:22:20] <Inari> Lame~
L1499[06:24:03] <AshIndigo> https://mrnbayoh.github.io/doodlebomb/
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L1501[06:27:34] <Inari> I believe I need a cfw
L1502[06:27:39] <Inari> So I'm not sujre doodlebomb helps me
L1503[06:28:34] <AshIndigo> Don't you just need the doodlebomb letter?
L1504[06:28:40] <asie> doodlebomb is dead
L1505[06:28:43] <Inari> "To be able to install doodlebomb you need: a way to boot the Homebrew Launcher OR a friend who already have doodlebomb installed" Why do all these ways need an already hacked 3ds
L1506[06:28:44] <asie> swapdoodle was updates
L1507[06:28:45] <asie> updated*
L1508[06:29:00] * AshIndigo looks at his 3ds
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L1511[06:32:37] * Saphire screams
L1512[06:32:39] <Saphire> FOOOOOONTS
L1513[06:32:45] <Saphire> FUCKING FOOONTS
L1514[06:32:56] * Saphire whacks monospaced terminals
L1515[06:33:38] <Inari> Eh I'll just go make lunch now, doesn't matter much today anyway
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L1517[06:40:46] <Forecaster> lots of gemstone-yelling today
L1518[06:42:58] <Mettaton_Fab> installing cfw on a 3ds is fairly simple
L1519[06:47:27] <Saphire> http://i.imgur.com/fUNKqCs.png Q_Q
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L1521[06:50:11] <Inari> @Mettaton_Fab: Oh really? :P Tell me how then
L1522[06:59:01] <ade124> Did my VPS die
L1523[06:59:08] <ade124> Hmm... Probably not
L1524[06:59:14] <AshIndigo> Maybe it did!
L1525[06:59:20] <BloodyRain2k> anyone else thinking that computer cases should not drop their components when broken for picking up?
L1526[06:59:40] <AshIndigo> That would be nice
L1527[06:59:49] <Inari> I think computer cases should be more guiless
L1528[06:59:51] <ade124> I am currently talking through a weechat relay on my VPS, so no
L1529[07:01:11] <ade124> However, the web server portion of my VPS is certainly dead
L1530[07:03:16] <Mettaton_Fab> Inari. there is a guide on 3ds.guide i think
L1531[07:03:26] <Mettaton_Fab> not sure about the url of it
L1532[07:03:46] <Inari> Cool
L1533[07:04:03] <Inari> That one needs either soldering (+extra stfuf for that) or a second 3ds thats already hacked
L1534[07:04:03] <Inari> :p
L1535[07:04:39] <Mettaton_Fab> i have a hacked 3ds
L1536[07:04:46] <Mettaton_Fab> so i could help you
L1537[07:04:55] <Inari> It kind of needs to be physically there
L1538[07:05:02] <Mettaton_Fab> there is a discord for this
L1539[07:05:12] <Inari> Good for them :P
L1540[07:05:23] <AshIndigo> There's also a channel on another network
L1541[07:05:32] <BloodyRain2k> <Inari> I think computer cases should be more guiless < so you want to get rid of the power and activity LEDs?
L1542[07:05:50] <Lizzy> right, lets learn how to cook bacon
L1543[07:06:10] * AshIndigo readies the fire extinguisher
L1544[07:06:12] <Mettaton_Fab> just throw it in the pan and let it sizzle until its crispy
L1545[07:06:15] <Inari> BloodyRain2k: No I want them to be more tower-ish than blokc-ish. And you open the side of the case by rightclicking, then you see the mainboard, and such and by hovering the corsshair over the components you see a hitbox/outline and tooltip on what that is
L1546[07:06:21] <Inari> and you rightclick to take it out and rightclick wiht one to put i tin
L1547[07:06:34] <BloodyRain2k> oh, you meant more like the rack
L1548[07:06:49] <Inari> Maybe
L1549[07:06:52] <BloodyRain2k> mhm yeah, that *could* be nice, but also a fucking pain depending on where you placed it
L1550[07:06:53] <Mettaton_Fab> so more like a real PC?
L1551[07:07:04] <Inari> @Mettaton_Fab pretty much
L1552[07:07:11] <Mettaton_Fab> also, my PC died yesterday
L1553[07:07:14] <BloodyRain2k> I personally find it nice as it is, I just want them to not spew the components out when broken
L1554[07:07:18] <AshIndigo> Oh no!
L1555[07:07:22] <Mettaton_Fab> now which replacement motherboard to get
L1556[07:07:37] <AshIndigo> This one
L1557[07:07:41] <Mettaton_Fab> either a P5K3 or another P5B deluxe
L1558[07:07:44] * AshIndigo holds up a mother board
L1559[07:07:50] <BloodyRain2k> buy a couple and fence them in and let them fight it out, the survivor is clearly worth it
L1560[07:07:56] <Mettaton_Fab> send pic so i see which one you mean
L1561[07:08:16] <Mettaton_Fab> the P5K3 supports DDR3 1333MHz
L1562[07:08:25] <Mettaton_Fab> it also is super for overclocking
L1563[07:08:36] <Mettaton_Fab> has a FSB rating of 1600 MHz
L1564[07:09:22] <AmandaC> Inari: I had that typed up and was about to send when you went to sleep last night
L1565[07:09:40] <Inari> AmandaC: I don't understand it D:
L1566[07:09:50] <Inari> Sugar Sugar Rune~
L1567[07:10:16] <AshIndigo> %roll 1d3
L1568[07:10:17] <MichiBot> AshIndigo: [2]
L1569[07:10:19] <Mettaton_Fab> i either get one with CPU and RAM installed or one without CPU and/or RAM
L1570[07:10:27] <AmandaC> Inari: it was in response to your saying "Thank you"
L1571[07:10:38] <AmandaC> After I told you to sleep gud
L1572[07:11:15] <Lizzy> so far, no explosions
L1573[07:11:36] <Mettaton_Fab> if it starts burning, do not extinguish with water
L1574[07:11:48] * AshIndigo keeps the extinguisher at hand
L1575[07:11:50] <Mettaton_Fab> will cause a massive fireball to exist
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L1577[07:16:38] <Mettaton_Fab> well, either buy an overclocking motherboard or a normal one.
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L1579[07:16:54] <Mettaton_Fab> but either way, i need WiFi onboard
L1580[07:22:50] <Lizzy> i set off the smoke alarms
L1581[07:22:56] <Lizzy> and the kitchen is smokey
L1582[07:22:59] <Lizzy> but i think i did it
L1583[07:23:38] <Mettaton_Fab> did you not look after it for long enough?
L1584[07:27:29] <Lizzy> oh i was looking after it alright, just haven't fried bacon before
L1585[07:27:46] <ade124> I found a fidget spinner mod for minecraft... *Why*
L1586[07:27:59] <20kdc> Why? Science isn't about why!
L1587[07:28:16] <AshIndigo> Why...
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L1589[07:30:02] <ade124> Also is there any way to paste into a sign in Minecraft? Still haven't found a Chinese Input Fix Mod for 1.11
L1590[07:30:13] <Mettaton_Fab> because 12yo kids like fidget spinners
L1591[07:30:40] <AshIndigo> You could try with the sign upgrade in oc
L1592[07:30:45] <AshIndigo> ~w sign
L1593[07:30:45] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:sign
L1594[07:30:53] <ade124> Lol
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L1597[07:36:05] <S3> 20kdc: Science is about why, as long as you expect to be given another why.
L1598[07:36:06] <S3> :D
L1599[07:36:16] <S3> recursion!
L1600[07:36:26] <Forecaster> but why?!
L1601[07:37:12] <ade124> I might have found a version of inputfix for 1.11... Only problem being how on earth dp I gradle
L1602[07:37:26] <AshIndigo> You do the thing
L1603[07:37:33] <AshIndigo> And maybe run gradlew build
L1604[07:40:37] <ade124> Might be building... *crosses fingers*
L1605[07:45:49] <Lizzy> well, didn't burn the house down. have eaten bacon now we wait to see if i cooked it properly
L1606[07:46:12] * Skye points out that bacon is still worth it even if it requires burning the house
L1607[07:47:11] <Lizzy> well
L1608[07:47:34] <ade124> What if I'm a muslim
L1609[07:47:40] <Lizzy> i mean, the bacon cost about £4. the total value of everything in the house is much higher
L1610[07:48:07] <Skye> bacon > *
L1611[07:48:08] <Lizzy> ade124, then good for you? don't see how that affects anything
L1612[07:48:14] <Lizzy> wait nvm
L1613[07:48:14] <Skye> I am joking by the way
L1614[07:48:41] <ade124> What if I prefer eating asterisks
L1615[07:49:04] <20kdc> what is the nutritional value of an asterisk
L1616[07:49:18] <Forecaster> plus if you burnt the house down the bacon would probably be gone too
L1617[07:49:50] * Saphire groans
L1618[07:49:50] <Mimiru> ...
L1619[07:49:55] <Saphire> Fucking hinting
L1620[07:50:02] <Mimiru> -MichiBot- peelz in #oc said: could you make your bot translate username occurrences to Discord mentions? on May 20 @ 08:55 UTC
L1621[07:50:08] <Mimiru> You mean.. like it already does ._.
L1622[07:50:30] <AshIndigo> %jiggle MichiBot
L1623[07:50:32] * MichiBot jiggles MichiBot
L1624[07:50:50] <ade124> %inv add MichiBot
L1625[07:50:54] * MichiBot I can't put myself in my inventory silly.
L1626[07:50:55] <Saphire> peelz, hm
L1627[07:51:02] <ade124> %inv add Silly
L1628[07:51:06] <MichiBot> ade124: I cannot execute this command right now. Wait 18 seconds.
L1629[07:51:06] <Mimiru> @peelz you mean something like this...?
L1630[07:51:57] <Mimiru> %tell @peelz hell, the bots even work together to let you send tells to people from IRC..
L1631[07:51:57] <MichiBot> Mimiru: @peelz will be notified of this message when next seen.
L1632[07:53:40] * Saphire cackles
L1633[07:53:58] <Saphire> Oh gosh
L1634[07:54:01] <AshIndigo> ?
L1635[07:54:10] <S3> sometimes I forget that the way you do things in Lua are very different than in Perl
L1636[07:54:11] <S3> heh
L1637[07:54:14] <Saphire> Trying to get fonts to look /okay/ is hard
L1638[07:54:30] * Forecaster just uses whatever font
L1639[07:54:32] <ade124> Nice, the 1.11 InputFix works
L1640[07:54:38] * Lizzy has 66 updates on her laptop
L1641[07:54:51] <AshIndigo> Time to go get smacked down by the water trial again
L1642[07:55:33] <S3> Saphire: real programmers don't use font, they stare at the computer until they can assemble a finite state machine that represents the computer in its current state.
L1643[07:55:39] <S3> in their head
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L1645[07:57:13] * ade124 wishes betterfont didn't look bad with any scale other than normal
L1646[07:57:34] <S3> TERMINUS!
L1647[07:59:20] <ade124> I need CJK support
L1648[07:59:48] <AshIndigo> %choose 1 or 2
L1649[07:59:48] <MichiBot> AshIndigo: 2
L1650[08:12:35] <AshIndigo> :D
L1651[08:12:39] <AshIndigo> Water trial done!
L1652[08:16:52] <Saphire> Which one is better? http://i.imgur.com/dBULc16.png .-.
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L1655[08:18:15] <AshIndigo> %choose top left or top right
L1656[08:18:16] <MichiBot> AshIndigo: top right
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L1658[08:21:18] <Saphire> AshIndigo: it's tiny bit horizontally blurry :c
L1659[08:23:01] <AshIndigo> :/
L1660[08:23:25] <Saphire> Huh?
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L1662[08:35:15] <Skye> Saphire, I prefer the top left one.
L1663[08:41:27] <Inari> Having people hardmod your 3DS is expensive :P
L1664[08:43:51] <Cruor> Why would you hardmod your 3ds? .-.
L1665[08:44:17] <Inari> Cause its one of the two available ways :P
L1666[08:44:31] <S3> why wouldn't you?
L1667[08:44:53] <S3> I softmodded my original xbox but I've been hoping to put a mod chip in it for years
L1668[08:45:13] <S3> course I have a very good reason for that
L1669[08:45:28] <Cruor> because you can cfw every version but newest patch?
L1670[08:46:03] <Inari> You can cfw newest too - if you have a second 3ds
L1671[08:46:07] <Inari> (which is already hacked)
L1672[08:46:09] <asie> or a soldering iron
L1673[08:46:12] <Inari> (and has the same region)
L1674[08:46:13] <asie> (which doesn't have to be hacked)
L1675[08:46:17] <Inari> asie: But tahts a hardmod
L1676[08:46:17] <Inari> :P
L1677[08:46:21] <asie> (and can be from any region as long as you have a power converter)
L1678[08:46:58] <Inari> I wonder if this service guarantees that they won't brick you device
L1679[08:47:22] <Cruor> Just wait for next patch...
L1680[08:47:33] <Cruor> They are waiting for 3ds eol anyway
L1681[08:47:38] <Inari> Could be a while
L1682[08:47:40] <asie> Typing on my keyboard reminds me that I should get something that's not 25 year old and straight out of the basement. I still want an HHKB. But it's so expensive...
L1683[08:48:21] <Cruor> Only reason to hardmod imo is for bluetooth or something
L1684[08:48:24] <Skye> asie, get a unicomp keyboard
L1685[08:48:58] <Inari> @Cruor or to be able to get cfw currently ;D
L1686[08:49:04] <Cruor> Why do you have a 3ds on latest firmware anyway? .-.
L1687[08:49:29] <Cruor> No actall updates for years
L1688[08:49:49] <Inari> Cause I was using eShop
L1689[08:50:23] <Cruor> Spoof version with homebrew? :I
L1690[08:50:31] <Inari> ?
L1691[08:50:36] <Inari> I have no homebrew :P
L1692[08:51:38] <Inari> And last I had checked there was no homebrew/cfw for the version I was on. That had changed, but I also had no plans to hack my 3ds
L1693[08:51:40] <Inari> So I didn't check
L1694[08:52:37] <Cruor> homebrew payloads for the last few versions have update within a week though
L1695[08:53:00] * Inari shrug
L1696[08:53:03] <Inari> Not when I checked
L1697[08:53:05] <Cruor> and soundhax worked on 11.2 for eons, and was way to easy to use
L1698[08:53:28] <AshIndigo> Its been patched sadly
L1699[08:53:39] <Cruor> yea :/
L1700[08:54:00] <Inari> And I probably still wouldnt' care for hacking it
L1701[08:54:02] <Inari> If nintendo didn't suck
L1702[08:54:32] <Cruor> you can fix many problems with just homebrew though :I
L1703[08:54:39] <Inari> What problems
L1704[08:54:54] <Cruor> bleeding my eyes out at nighttime
L1705[08:55:01] <Inari> Never had that issue
L1706[08:55:09] <Cruor> try the thing with 2% brightness
L1707[08:55:10] <Cruor> o boy
L1708[08:55:11] <Cruor> so good
L1709[08:55:36] <Cruor> now if somebody would fix the home menu, that be nice
L1710[08:55:40] <Cruor> battery bar is stupid
L1711[08:55:41] <Inari> Not that I play at night/without light nayway
L1712[08:56:00] <Inari> Whys it stupid? You added a RTG?
L1713[08:56:33] <Cruor> because the battery bars are logarithmic? .-.
L1714[08:56:51] <Cruor> the first bar is like 50% battery
L1715[08:57:05] <Cruor> just to give the impression that the system lasts longer than it does
L1716[08:57:28] <Inari> Just put a perentage instead I guess
L1717[08:57:40] <Cruor> one problem
L1718[08:57:45] <Cruor> dont touch the ****ing home menu
L1719[08:57:48] <Cruor> if you value your 3ds
L1720[08:57:52] <Cruor> and dont need a new doorstopper
L1721[08:57:59] <Inari> Whys that
L1722[08:58:17] <Cruor> homemenu scary, mkay?
L1723[08:58:32] <S3> I need to get a modchip before my hard drive dies
L1724[08:58:58] <Inari> Before it goes flaccid?
L1725[08:59:04] <AshIndigo> I should make a nand backup again sometime
L1726[08:59:05] <Cruor> :⁾ lewd
L1727[08:59:13] <Cruor> so why do you need cfw Inari?
L1728[08:59:23] <Inari> to play Store of Seasons Trio of Towns
L1729[08:59:30] <Cruor> what now
L1730[08:59:47] <Inari> It's only out in NA and JP so far
L1731[08:59:49] <Cruor> ah
L1732[08:59:58] <Cruor> ... its almost a year old
L1733[09:00:07] <Inari> Just like how Story of Seasons itself took ages to get to EU
L1734[09:00:10] <Inari> Screw regionlock
L1735[09:00:19] <Cruor> you can do region unlocks with homebrew
L1736[09:00:30] <S3> Inari: it will allow me to avoid the eeprom lock. I don't have to do it before, it's more just itl be easier to reimage it before it dies
L1737[09:00:35] <Inari> Well, once they have a 11.4 payload for 03ds
L1738[09:00:39] <Inari> *o3ds
L1739[09:01:16] <Cruor> aaah...
L1740[09:01:27] <Cruor> forgot o3ds didnt have 11.4 :I
L1741[09:01:30] <Inari> :P
L1742[09:01:33] <S3> in an original xbox without a modchip, if your harddrive fails, you need another xbox unless you backed the eeprom up, and even then, it's easier to copy the disk contents from a live drive than build a new one
L1743[09:02:17] <Cruor> cfw is so silly though
L1744[09:02:21] <Cruor> its like, here is your game console
L1745[09:02:23] <Cruor> now its 7
L1746[09:02:25] <Cruor> okay, hf
L1747[09:02:44] <ade124> Are there facades for OC cables like BC facades?
L1748[09:02:49] <Cruor> the amounts of legally dumped roms you can play on that thing...
L1749[09:02:58] <Cruor> ade124: you can chisel and bits it :>
L1750[09:04:38] <ade124> Seems not to be the case
L1751[09:04:44] <AshIndigo> %choose maybe waste money or not
L1752[09:04:45] <MichiBot> AshIndigo: not
L1753[09:04:56] <Cruor> AshIndigo: waste money in disagreement with the bot
L1754[09:04:59] <Inari> AshIndigo: On?
L1755[09:05:23] <AshIndigo> A "strange souvenir"
L1756[09:06:53] <Inari> Elaborate
L1757[09:07:49] <AshIndigo> http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Valuable_item#Strange_Souvenir
L1758[09:08:25] <Inari> ¬_¬
L1759[09:20:19] <ade124> I've resorted to using OC monitors as a giant sign for my highways
L1760[09:22:07] <Izaya> fun idea
L1761[09:22:12] <Izaya> if you did it right
L1762[09:22:18] <Izaya> you could drive lots of screens with one GPU
L1763[09:22:37] <Izaya> assuming screens act like memory tubes anyway
L1764[09:24:13] <ade124> Are there any mods where I can make signs without wasting computers
L1765[09:24:33] <Izaya> Minecraft
L1766[09:24:56] <ade124> Bigger signs
L1767[09:25:07] <Izaya> more of them
L1768[09:25:23] <Izaya> in all seriousness probably but I don't know them
L1769[09:25:28] <Izaya> microblocks?
L1770[09:25:53] <ade124> Probably chisels and bits and some pixel font magic
L1771[09:26:34] <AshIndigo> Practical logistics I think?
L1772[09:26:39] <AshIndigo> It has long signs
L1773[09:40:49] <Cruor> :o i want chisel and bits magic
L1774[09:40:58] <Cruor> works nice with the colorful blocks mod
L1775[09:41:48] <ade124> Trying to carve Chinese characters in it
L1776[09:44:42] <ade124> Actually I could just steal GNU unifont
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L1779[10:03:19] <ade124> Just tried, looks quite horrible with Chinese
L1780[10:06:52] <Forecaster> bibliocraft?
L1781[10:09:39] <Forecaster> OC 3D printer
L1782[10:10:47] <ade124> Chinese looks horrible with pixel fonts
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L1788[10:46:49] <ade124> Here's the best one I could make with chisel and bits http://i.imgur.com/rbjXapL.png
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L1790[10:47:00] <ade124> (the text at the top is what it was supposed to look like)
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L1792[10:57:20] <gamax92> Inari: pls I spent a lot of time like 2 seconds into the terrible joke and that's all you give me.
L1793[10:59:04] <gamax92> Even a (this was not actually funny but have a fake) "Heh" would have been better
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L1796[11:05:15] <gamax92> Hey asie?
L1797[11:11:11] <Vexatos> Yo Lizzy, are you also the person for the OC jenkins repo?
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L1800[11:23:09] <vifino> nope.
L1801[11:23:58] <asie> gamax92: what?
L1802[11:26:00] <Lizzy> Vexatos, nope, only forums
L1803[11:27:46] <Lizzy> also just woke up from a 2 hour nap
L1804[11:28:00] <Vexatos> new name: LizzyNapster
L1805[11:28:11] * Vexatos hides
L1806[11:30:39] <Lizzy> nope, just being a cat
L1807[11:31:37] <Vexatos> because ci.cil.li is dead
L1808[11:31:51] <Vexatos> (the actual jenkins is not because it still properly publishes to maven
L1809[11:31:57] <Vexatos> %tell Sangar fix ci.cil.li
L1810[11:31:58] <MichiBot> Vexatos: Sangar will be notified of this message when next seen.
L1811[11:32:10] <ade124> Hmm... Just a really random question: would it be possible to use a screen in bitmap mode or would that involve lots of rewriting
L1812[11:32:46] <Lizzy> Vexatos, https://files.theender.net/shx/orlin/17-05-20_17:32:02.png worksforme.jpg
L1813[11:33:29] <ade124> Same
L1814[11:33:48] <Vexatos> I just get the normal http://cil.li/
L1815[11:34:34] * ade124 looks in other tabs in that screenshots
L1816[11:34:43] <ade124> screenshot*
L1817[11:35:00] <Lizzy> check to see if your browser is actually sending a host header? both ci.cil.li and cil.li have the same address
L1818[11:35:13] <Lizzy> ade124, the other tab is a pair of arm warmers
L1819[11:36:18] <Vexatos> well my browser does ask for ci.cil.li
L1820[11:36:29] <Lizzy> hmm
L1821[11:37:42] <Lizzy> try dig cil.li and dig ci.cil.li and see what addresses that reports back
L1822[11:37:50] <Lizzy> cil.li. 86187 IN A 91.134.16.250
L1823[11:38:13] <Lizzy> ci.cil.li. 86058 IN A 91.134.16.250
L1824[11:38:19] <Lizzy> is what i get for both of them
L1825[11:38:44] <Vexatos> same
L1826[11:39:09] <Lizzy> hmm
L1827[11:39:22] <Vexatos> doesn't work on other browsers either
L1828[11:39:47] <Vexatos> wait what
L1829[11:39:49] <Vexatos> works through VTN
L1830[11:39:52] <Vexatos> VPN*
L1831[11:39:54] <Vexatos> uuuuuuuuh
L1832[11:40:40] * Lizzy shrugs
L1833[11:40:53] <Vexatos> Does not work through my uni's VPN though
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L1835[11:41:12] <Lizzy> thats... odd
L1836[11:41:35] <Vexatos> yes, yes it is
L1837[11:52:31] <Skye> Lizzy, Vexatos: ci.cil.li tells me to go away
L1838[11:54:02] <vifino> Vexatos: ipv6?
L1839[11:54:08] <Vexatos> good question
L1840[11:54:47] <vifino> logic says it's ipv6.
L1841[11:55:58] <Pyker> already been reported
L1842[11:56:10] <Pyker> Michiyo is waiting on Sangar to fix it
L1843[11:56:13] <Vexatos> Ok
L1844[11:56:19] <Pyker> works fine over ipv4, but not ipv6
L1845[11:56:19] <Vexatos> vifino, I'm connected to ipv6
L1846[11:57:08] <vifino> yeah.
L1847[11:57:34] <Skye> that will explain it
L1848[12:06:01] <gamax92> heh, connecting to the ip gives you "Hi."
L1849[12:06:41] <Mimiru> Yeah.. if sangar ever comes back he has a tell about it from michibot
L1850[12:08:46] <Lizzy> %tell Sangar your webserver does not handle dualstack very well, you nube
L1851[12:08:46] <MichiBot> Lizzy: Sangar will be notified of this message when next seen.
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L1853[12:15:21] <Cruor> %choose pizza or pizza
L1854[12:15:22] <MichiBot> Cruor: pizza
L1855[12:15:34] <Vexatos> Cruor, told you
L1856[12:15:39] <Cruor> yea...
L1857[12:15:40] <Cruor> weird
L1858[12:17:36] <Vexatos> Cruor, but then again, MichiBot is biased
L1859[12:20:21] <gamax92> %choose Cruor or Cruor
L1860[12:20:23] <MichiBot> gamax92: Cruor
L1861[12:20:36] <Cruor> biased af
L1862[12:20:43] <Cruor> can it make my pizza as well?
L1863[12:20:45] <gamax92> MochiButt is very bios
L1864[12:20:48] <Cruor> %remind 12m
L1865[12:20:49] <MichiBot> Cruor: Specify a remind message after the time.
L1866[12:20:52] <Cruor> %remind 12m Pizza?
L1867[12:20:53] <MichiBot> I'll remind you about "Pizza?" at 05/20/2017 12:32:53 PM
L1868[12:32:53] <MichiBot> Cruor REMINDER: Pizza?
L1869[12:33:02] <Cruor> OH MY GOD KITCHEN ON FIRE
L1870[12:33:23] <Vexatos> >MochiButt
L1871[12:33:27] <Vexatos> you know
L1872[12:34:22] <Cruor> false alarm
L1873[12:34:26] <Cruor> it was our living room
L1874[12:34:38] <Vexatos> it's not _that_ far off
L1875[12:34:56] <Vexatos> you could probably make mochi look like a butt :I
L1876[12:35:58] <Vexatos> payonel, have fun explaining what "repro" means
L1877[12:37:53] <AmandaC> Removing the AAAA record should be a good-enough bandaid fornow
L1878[12:38:19] <Vexatos> blame Sangar :I
L1879[12:38:47] <gamax92> #BlameSangar
L1880[12:39:03] <Lizzy> AmandaC, but fixing his web server would stop the issue all together
L1881[12:39:27] <Sangar> now if only i knew how \o/
L1882[12:39:32] * AmandaC shrugs
L1883[12:39:42] <Lizzy> Sangar, what web server do you got?
L1884[12:39:51] <AmandaC> I don't understand the mindset of "Oh, I'll just put this fire over with the other fire."
L1885[12:39:57] <Sangar> Lizzy, native american
L1886[12:40:05] <Lizzy> ...?
L1887[12:40:05] <Inari> It's Sangar \o/
L1888[12:40:09] <Sangar> apache >_>
L1889[12:40:17] <Lizzy> okay
L1890[12:40:55] <Vexatos> Lizzy, pls
L1891[12:41:02] <Lizzy> what?
L1892[12:41:07] <gamax92> joke
L1893[12:41:08] <Vexatos> <Sangar> Lizzy, native american
L1894[12:41:08] <Vexatos> <Lizzy> ...?
L1895[12:41:12] <Vexatos> just how
L1896[12:41:12] <gamax92> Head
L1897[12:41:25] <Lizzy> eg?
L1898[12:41:27] <Lizzy> *eh?
L1899[12:41:30] <Inari> gamax92: pls yourself
L1900[12:41:41] <Sangar> ah, right
L1901[12:41:41] <gamax92> Inari: fine
L1902[12:41:48] <Sangar> ci.cil.li isn't managed by ispconfig
L1903[12:41:56] <Sangar> on to editing dem configs
L1904[12:42:23] <Lizzy> k
L1905[12:44:08] <ade124> Sangar is not dead confirmed
L1906[12:44:26] <Sangar> Vexatos, try now
L1907[12:44:35] <Vexatos> o boy it works
L1908[12:44:41] <Vexatos> must be broken
L1909[12:44:42] <Sangar> ~o~
L1910[12:44:48] <Sangar> and yeah, not completely dead
L1911[12:44:58] <Vexatos> Sangar, by the way >_> http://git.io/vHUts
L1912[12:47:13] <ade124> I should make a MC mod with clojure, I wonder how possible that is
L1913[12:47:18] <Sangar> yey casing changes
L1914[12:48:10] <Inari> shell casings?
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L1917[13:25:51] <ade124> What's everyone's timezones here
L1918[13:25:59] <BloodyRain2k> +1
L1919[13:26:06] <ade124> +8
L1920[13:26:16] <ade124> Was that including DST?
L1921[13:26:26] <ade124> (No DST over here so...)
L1922[13:27:18] <BloodyRain2k> it's without DST, currently it's +2
L1923[13:27:22] <BloodyRain2k> fuck DST...
L1924[13:28:11] <BloodyRain2k> I was also wondering, can OC somehow scan carts? if not, can a cart scanner card be added for the adapter? using OC for routing trains sound like an interesting thing :3
L1925[13:28:35] <ade124> Let's add DST on the equator
L1926[13:28:44] <ade124> They need to save all that precious sunlight
L1927[13:28:59] <BloodyRain2k> lets shoot DST into the sun
L1928[13:29:10] <fingercomp> BloodyRain2k: Computronics has the digital detector
L1929[13:30:16] <BloodyRain2k> does that need CC to run?
L1930[13:30:42] <Vexatos> No
L1931[13:30:55] <AmandaC> Yes, don't let vex lie to you
L1932[13:31:10] <AmandaC> vex is secretly dan200
L1933[13:31:17] * AmandaC nods, flees
L1934[13:31:22] <Vexatos> If I was dan CC wouldn't exist anymore
L1935[13:31:28] <BloodyRain2k> I'll try that then :3
L1936[13:31:33] <BloodyRain2k> also who's dan?
L1937[13:31:42] <BloodyRain2k> the only Dan I know is NerdCubed
L1938[13:33:12] <ade124> CC went open source for some reason
L1939[13:33:32] <BloodyRain2k> maybe it felt threatened
L1940[13:34:36] <ade124> Honestly a CC computer is much easier to set up than an OC one, and it requires less space
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L1942[13:34:43] <BloodyRain2k> I wonder if I can interface with the IC2 reactor simulator from C# and run a neuralnet over it that randomly throws items in slots until it gets a better layout than mine together
L1943[13:34:52] <BloodyRain2k> and it's boring
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L1945[13:35:34] <BloodyRain2k> I hate lua but the fact that I need to install the OS first with a floppy and then can take it apart from the inside (literally) reminds me so much of RP2 that I don't mind with OC :3
L1946[13:35:38] <ade124> I wish I could set a OC computer up in 1 block
L1947[13:35:42] <BloodyRain2k> I also like the modularity of OC
L1948[13:35:48] <BloodyRain2k> well
L1949[13:36:04] <BloodyRain2k> if you don't count screens, 1 block + 1 item: server rack
L1950[13:36:27] <ade124> Yes I do count screens
L1951[13:36:39] <BloodyRain2k> NedoComputers then?
L1952[13:36:49] <BloodyRain2k> mhm, I think that was 2 blocks too
L1953[13:36:56] <BloodyRain2k> make an OpenLaptop mod then :P
L1954[13:37:26] <BloodyRain2k> make it a placeable block and then you can plonk down a 1 block OC computer :D
L1955[13:37:47] <BloodyRain2k> (and I would have my measuring run around times made a LOT easier *cough*)
L1956[13:37:57] <Pwootage> OC has an internet card, you can interface with whatever that way
L1957[13:38:23] <ade124> I want it all contained in one block, no more, no less
L1958[13:38:28] <Pwootage> (OC also has a lovely mod API for adding components and architectures)
L1959[13:38:36] <ade124> ~~Nope, no half slabs allowed~~
L1960[13:39:31] <ade124> The only problem with making open laptops is I have no experience with Java, Scala, Kotlin or even Clojure
L1961[13:39:43] <BloodyRain2k> damnit :<
L1962[13:39:44] <ade124> OpenLaptops*
L1963[13:39:55] <ade124> I do have experience with programming though
L1964[13:39:58] <BloodyRain2k> I don't even know 3/4 of these xD
L1965[13:40:11] <BloodyRain2k> same, mostly C# though, but not on an impressive level
L1966[13:40:21] <ade124> OC is built on scala isn't it
L1967[13:40:50] <BloodyRain2k> heh, OC ran IC2 reactor simulator xD that'd be funny
L1968[13:41:07] <BloodyRain2k> probably even doable, if one knows the workings of the parts
L1969[13:41:10] <ade124> I kind of want to make a compile to lua lang
L1970[13:42:58] <Pwootage> OC is written in scala yes, but it's APIs are all in java
L1971[13:43:47] <ade124> Does Minecraft forge support scala natively
L1972[13:44:18] <ade124> Probably not Kotlin and clojure
L1973[13:44:21] <Pwootage> Seems to. At the very least, Scala compiles to Java so you could probably get it to work anyway
L1974[13:44:39] <Pwootage> You probably could get Kotlin or Clojure working for the same reasons, although you'd probably have to manually include the standard libraries
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L1976[13:56:05] <Mimiru> AmandaC, wrote a mod in Kotlin IIRC
L1977[13:56:26] <AmandaC> indeed
L1978[13:56:36] <AmandaC> IDK about clojure, though
L1979[13:56:59] <AmandaC> it's pretty heavy and not really meant for java -> clojure interop
L1980[14:01:08] <BloodyRain2k> mhm, can the computronics digital detector see the contents of a cart too? like mobs or items?
L1981[14:11:07] <Mimiru> Pyker, dmod ci issue should be fixed
L1982[14:13:31] <BloodyRain2k> Mimiru, could you change the sensor so that it uses it's own coordinates for biome and that the coordinates given by the call are optional and an offset instead from it's own position?
L1983[14:13:58] <Mimiru> I already have
L1984[14:17:24] <BloodyRain2k> ah nice :D
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L1986[14:22:30] <Pyker> Mimiru: I saw, thanks :)
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L1988[14:31:54] <gamax92> @Pwootage There's a field in the Mod annotation that says what language your mod is written in
L1989[14:32:15] <Pwootage> Ah, I'm sure I knew that at one point
L1990[14:32:19] <Pwootage> I mean, oc-js is scala :p
L1991[14:32:24] <gamax92> D:
L1992[14:32:25] <gamax92> please don't
L1993[14:32:43] <Pwootage> too late, it's been scala for literally a year and a half ;P
L1994[14:32:57] <gamax92> yeah well you also haven't worked on it for a year and a half
L1995[14:38:33] <BloodyRain2k> bummer, got the digital detector set up now but it can't read more than the cart type, that's all : (
L1996[14:38:44] <BloodyRain2k> I was hoping it could see what's in the carts too
L1997[14:41:55] <Pwootage> Hey I started working on it again a week ago, and am going to be working on it more today probably hopefully
L1998[14:42:43] <Mimiru> Ok... guess I have to make recipes now
L1999[14:42:44] <Mimiru> ._.
L2000[14:43:45] <BloodyRain2k> uhm, wasn't there someone who wanted microblock support for the cables? seems like they have that, because I can place covers on them O_o
L2001[14:44:57] <Mimiru> For Computronics audio cables IIRC.
L2002[14:45:31] <BloodyRain2k> man this is a retarded bug, when you use the disposal track from RC to clear out immature cattle from carts a cooldown will be placed on that cart so it won't be able to suck in a new one for a certain time through a embarking rail
L2003[14:46:06] <BloodyRain2k> effectively rendering my "don't slaughter cow babies" measures pointless because it won't fill the cart in time with another -_-
L2004[14:48:36] <BloodyRain2k> this slaugher coaster needs a redesign
L2005[14:54:49] <Mimiru> I hate making recipes
L2006[14:57:19] <Mimiru> K.. those are done, now to figure out how to do docs since I'm doing @Overrides ._.
L2007[14:59:06] <BloodyRain2k> are the coord changes in the 1.0.2 built of the sensors?
L2008[14:59:09] <BloodyRain2k> *build
L2009[14:59:17] <Mimiru> no
L2010[14:59:30] <BloodyRain2k> k, was just making sure I'm not doing something wrong again :>
L2011[15:00:05] <BloodyRain2k> Vexatos, could the digital detector get upgrades to look into the carts?
L2012[15:00:46] <BloodyRain2k> just getting the type is a little useless past using what RC provides with it's blocks and use it as a "ok that's the next cart now even though the RS signal was continous" splitter
L2013[15:01:03] <BloodyRain2k> RC detectors need inverter and pulse options <.<
L2014[15:07:24] <Vexatos> That would be way too easy :P
L2015[15:15:41] <BloodyRain2k> so it's just a cart splitter then, that could be done without OC too: just make an any dectector that doesn't emit continously
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L2018[15:20:16] <BloodyRain2k> I wonder why RC detectors don't even make use of analog, would make fill level checking much easier instead of "more than 75%? yes, more than 50%? yes, more than 25%? no" that's already 3 detectors in a row which might or might not emit a continous signal for all carts passing them
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L2020[15:24:44] <Inari> I hate when I see a clip of a song and kind of like it, so I go and find the full song and turns out the only part I like of the song is whats already been in the clip
L2021[15:24:56] <Mimiru> Right?!
L2022[15:25:56] <Mimiru> BloodyRain2k, build 3 will be on curse soon
L2023[15:26:26] <BloodyRain2k> that feel Inari : /
L2024[15:26:48] <Inari> Though it can be worse
L2025[15:26:51] <BloodyRain2k> screw curse, I got the jenkins link xD
L2026[15:26:56] <Inari> You have part of a song and like it
L2027[15:26:59] <Mimiru> :(
L2028[15:27:00] <Inari> But you can't get the rest of the song
L2029[15:27:00] <Inari> :|
L2030[15:27:05] <Mimiru> but curse gives me points, which gives me money
L2031[15:27:18] <BloodyRain2k> fine, I'll get it from there too :P
L2032[15:27:40] <Mimiru> I need to re add my redirect
L2033[15:28:16] <Inari> I should make an indiegogo campaign to acquire this song
L2034[15:28:24] <BloodyRain2k> "updated 1 min ago" newest version: 18h ago
L2035[15:28:27] <BloodyRain2k> fuck you curse...
L2036[15:28:33] <Inari> Or gofundme
L2037[15:28:33] <BloodyRain2k> lol
L2038[15:29:22] <Mimiru> \o/ got both expansions for cities skylines for $18
L2039[15:29:41] <BloodyRain2k> I think I got it with after dark for 15 euro?
L2040[15:29:47] <BloodyRain2k> not sure, been ages
L2041[15:31:35] <BloodyRain2k> you forgot to make the coords optional :x (nitpicky as fuck xD)
L2042[15:32:02] <BloodyRain2k> now I can write the part for my measurerer to actually save the data
L2043[15:32:17] <Mimiru> No, no I didn't
L2044[15:32:26] <Mimiru> making them optional is annoying :D
L2045[15:34:26] <Lizzy> Mimiru, both? There's After Dark, Snowfall, Natural Disasters and now Mass Transit
L2046[15:34:36] <Mimiru> I meant both of the ones on sale
L2047[15:34:37] <Mimiru> my bad :P
L2048[15:34:49] <Mimiru> I got AD and Snowfall
L2049[15:35:05] <Lizzy> ah
L2050[15:35:14] * AmandaC pokes the google cloud functions emulator
L2051[15:35:17] <AmandaC> "You okay, buddy?"
L2052[15:35:22] <Mimiru> http://www.cdkeys.com/pc/games/cities-skylines-after-dark-pc-cd-key http://www.cdkeys.com/pc/games/cities-skylines-snowfall-pc-cd-key
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L2054[15:36:23] <BloodyRain2k> making them optional is annoying? can't you simply do x = x || 1 at the beginning of the function?
L2055[15:36:39] <BloodyRain2k> or however null checks work in java
L2056[15:37:13] <BloodyRain2k> what was it in C# again, x ?= 0? mhm
L2057[15:37:28] <BloodyRain2k> or ??, can't remember, I use these so little actually
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L2060[15:39:12] <BloodyRain2k> x = x ?? 0; that was it
L2061[15:40:29] <Mimiru> or... I can just use optInteger(index, default)
L2062[15:40:32] <Mimiru> like I did..
L2063[15:40:35] <Mimiru> a few minutes ago
L2064[15:41:46] <BloodyRain2k> actually, I never use null checks in C#, I just use the function defaulting
L2065[15:42:14] <BloodyRain2k> like f(string, x = 0, y = 0) which makes the latter optional
L2066[15:42:37] <BloodyRain2k> returning multiple datapoints however is the more annoying thing in C#
L2067[15:42:44] <BloodyRain2k> that's where it loses again xD
L2068[15:42:58] <BloodyRain2k> or was that the same for java and I'm thinking lua again
L2069[15:43:39] <BloodyRain2k> anyways, I'll gladly take it with the needed ,0,0 too, I was just honestly curious if that's really that difficult in java, never used it after all o.o
L2070[15:44:50] <BloodyRain2k> mhm right, I edited the program externally, and edit doesn't like tabs, I can see where I forgot to convert them out
L2071[15:45:41] <Mimiru> build 4.
L2072[15:45:42] <Mimiru> anyway
L2073[15:45:47] <Mimiru> I gotta run again
L2074[15:46:05] <BloodyRain2k> thanks :D
L2075[15:49:18] <BloodyRain2k> just realized the return value is weird, {"Dead Swamp", n=1}
L2076[15:49:32] <BloodyRain2k> how do I even take that apart O.o [1]?
L2077[15:50:05] <BloodyRain2k> yeah, that works, weird output, but whatever
L2078[15:50:24] <BloodyRain2k> now to make it save the result after it's confident in the result
L2079[15:51:58] <BloodyRain2k> god forsaken averaging...
L2080[16:15:58] <Forecaster> it's a table
L2081[16:16:11] <Forecaster> unserialize it and table[1]
L2082[16:28:14] <Inari> %inv create a kickstarter campaign lightarc lighter that uses a battery which is recharged by an RTG
L2083[16:28:21] <Inari> ffs
L2084[16:28:26] <Inari> %inv create a kickstarter campaign lightarc lighter that uses a battery which is recharged by an RTG
L2085[16:28:27] * MichiBot compresses the sentence into a more manageable format since it was too long.
L2086[16:29:02] <Inari> :<
L2087[16:29:05] <Inari> Forecaster: pls
L2088[16:29:43] <Forecaster> :P
L2089[16:32:08] * gamax92 puts Inari in a paper bag
L2090[16:34:34] <Inari> :|
L2091[16:34:47] <Forecaster> at least it doesn't just ignore it :P
L2092[16:35:00] <Inari> %inv count
L2093[16:35:00] <MichiBot> The inventory contains 122 items.
L2094[16:35:03] <Inari> %inv list
L2095[16:35:03] <MichiBot> Inari: Here's my inventory: http://michibot.pc-logix.com/inventory
L2096[16:35:33] <Inari> :thinking:
L2097[16:35:45] <Inari> %inv create 1x compressed sentence
L2098[16:35:46] * MichiBot summons '1x compressed sentence' and adds to her inventory. This seems rather fragile...
L2099[16:36:01] <Inari> %inv create a kickstarter campaign lightarc lighter that uses a battery which is recharged by an RTG
L2100[16:36:01] <MichiBot> Inari: I cannot execute this command right now. Wait 14 seconds.
L2101[16:36:07] <Inari> :<
L2102[16:36:23] <Inari> All these silly newfangled features
L2103[16:36:31] <Inari> %inv create a kickstarter campaign lightarc lighter that uses a battery which is recharged by an RTG
L2104[16:36:31] * MichiBot compresses the sentence into a more manageable format since it was too long.
L2105[16:36:35] <Inari> Aw
L2106[16:37:10] <Forecaster> heh
L2107[16:38:26] <BloodyRain2k> %inv add the Pantsu of Lewd
L2108[16:38:30] * MichiBot summons 'the Pantsu of Lewd' and adds to her inventory. This seems very sturdy.
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L2110[16:38:56] <gamax92> I think Inari is being dethroned
L2111[16:39:14] <Inari> %shrug
L2112[16:39:14] <MichiBot> No you shrug!
L2113[16:45:05] <gamax92> gnutls tests are so slow :I
L2114[16:46:40] <Forecaster> what do they test?
L2115[16:46:52] <gamax92> various parts of gnutls
L2116[16:47:08] <gamax92> I've spent more time in the tests part of gnutls then the compiling it
L2117[16:47:37] <Forecaster> %search google gnutls
L2118[16:47:41] <MichiBot> Forecaster: https://www.gnutls.org/ - *GnuTLS*: "GnuTLS is a secure communications library implementing the SSL, TLS and DTLS protocols and technologies around them. It provides a simple C language ..."
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L2120[16:47:49] <Forecaster> ah
L2121[16:48:15] <gamax92> Forecaster: m8.
L2122[16:48:47] <Forecaster> ?
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L2125[17:02:08] <Forecaster> %juggle 5
L2126[17:02:10] * MichiBot juggles with bunny slippers, Cruand, a curse and a blessing, the Pantsu of Lewd & Brødrister
L2127[17:02:11] * MichiBot drops Cruand which takes 5 damage, Cruand melts into a puddle of unidentifiable goo.
L2128[17:02:12] * MichiBot drops a curse and a blessing which takes 4 damage, the curse and a blessing is eaten by a Grue.
L2129[17:02:13] * MichiBot drops the Pantsu of Lewd which takes 2 damage
L2130[17:02:14] <MichiBot> Not again...
L2131[17:15:29] <AmandaC> %choose 0.6 or 0.7
L2132[17:15:30] <MichiBot> AmandaC: 0.7
L2133[17:16:01] * AmandaC bumps the version of her kittiesdb backend
L2134[17:16:29] <AmandaC> Soon I'll be uploading a docker container using my phone teather
L2135[18:00:27] <BloodyRain2k> mhm, I gotta figure out how to make edit parse \t as 2 spaces
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L2137[18:12:24] <TYKUHN2> Qubes is a funky thing
L2138[18:13:09] <CompanionCube> Indeed.
L2139[18:13:25] <TYKUHN2> Seems a bit excessive but what do I know I'm not a NSA leaker.
L2140[18:13:52] <CompanionCube> There's no kill like overkill though, especially if you're paranoid to need or want Qubes.
L2141[18:14:40] <TYKUHN2> "Reasonably" secure for a reason
L2142[18:14:53] <Skye> If you're truly paranoid... Don't ever use the internet.
L2143[18:15:23] <TYKUHN2> Eternalblue style attacks still work and will break domain boundaries
L2144[18:15:38] <Izaya> Well sure
L2145[18:15:44] <Izaya> if you're running Windows
L2146[18:15:57] <TYKUHN2> *Style*
L2147[18:16:12] <Izaya> :P
L2148[18:16:26] <TYKUHN2> As in similar mechanism
L2149[18:16:42] <Izaya> hence why it's best to run them non-networked
L2150[18:16:57] <Izaya> have as little as possible running on dom0
L2151[18:17:03] <TYKUHN2> Get internal IP and send to that IP ?
L2152[18:17:18] <Izaya> non
L2153[18:17:20] <Izaya> networked
L2154[18:17:27] <Izaya> no networking
L2155[18:17:30] <TYKUHN2> I assume qubes protects loopbacks?
L2156[18:17:39] <TYKUHN2> Or is that unseperated?
L2157[18:17:46] <CompanionCube> Izaya: hm, doesn't Xen allow you to shift off parts of dom0 to non-dom0 VMs
L2158[18:17:52] <Izaya> loopbacks are implemented by the OS
L2159[18:17:57] <Izaya> the OSes are separated
L2160[18:18:07] <Izaya> it's not containers
L2161[18:18:15] <Izaya> CompanionCube: elaborate?
L2162[18:19:01] <CompanionCube> https://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Dom0_Disaggregation
L2163[18:19:06] <Skye> There is a similar thing on Linux right?
L2164[18:19:20] <Skye> You can use certain buffer overflow exploits
L2165[18:19:23] <TYKUHN2> Not familiar with Xen
L2166[18:19:26] <Skye> On the IP stack
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L2168[18:20:25] <CompanionCube> the terminology iirc works like this: dom0 is the control domain. domUs are normal virtual machines. If dom0 is pwned, so are all your 'secure' domUs.
L2169[18:21:05] <Izaya> hence, don't network dom0, have a VM for that, use other means to access the domUs
L2170[18:22:04] <CompanionCube> iirc Qubes uses dom0 to run the WM but shifts the NIC to another VM
L2171[18:23:40] <TYKUHN2> I'm tempted to clear up some space and install Qubes for *cough* experimental purposes.
L2172[18:24:08] <CompanionCube> does your CPU/mobo support VT-x and VT-d or AMD equivalents
L2173[18:24:24] <TYKUHN2> Yes
L2174[18:24:31] <TYKUHN2> Infact all of mine do
L2175[18:25:27] <Skye> I kinda wish there was a modern usable microkernel
L2176[18:25:31] <CompanionCube> good, 'cause without the universal VT-x your domUs would be slow af. VT-d allows you to allocate
L2177[18:25:48] <CompanionCube> Skye: There are. For certain definitions of 'usable'.
L2178[18:25:54] <Skye> QNX is proprietary and only for embedded.
L2179[18:26:03] <TYKUHN2> HAH
L2180[18:26:07] <CompanionCube> L4?
L2181[18:26:22] <TYKUHN2> Just looked at the instruction set for VT-x
L2182[18:26:29] <TYKUHN2> That's sounds insanely powerful
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L2184[18:27:25] <CompanionCube> VT-d isn't a strict requirement, but it's very nice to be able to passthrough the NIC to a special VM and have some protection from DMA attacks and such
L2185[18:27:53] <Skye> Minix is more for education and research, and drivers and software support is an issue.
L2186[18:28:07] <Skye> L4 is a kernel, nothing else.
L2187[18:28:09] <DeeJayh> Whoa, what'd I join into. Talking about playing around in sandboxes lol
L2188[18:28:14] <DeeJayh> Big boy sandboxes
L2189[18:28:25] <CompanionCube> what's the prefix for the hello command
L2190[18:28:34] <Skye> %hello
L2191[18:28:34] <MichiBot> Hello! Welcome to #oc! The one and only opencomputers channel! Please ask your questions directly and provide error/code examples! (Use pastebin.com if theyre more than one line!) Dont mind the random conversation you might have walked into.
L2192[18:29:15] <DeeJayh> Amusement Level: %2
L2193[18:29:25] <DeeJayh> That's up from 0
L2194[18:30:06] <TYKUHN2> Let's make a VM
L2195[18:30:09] <TYKUHN2> VMON;
L2196[18:30:11] <Skye> Yeah...
L2197[18:30:12] <TYKUHN2> Done ?
L2198[18:30:23] <CompanionCube> so, do you have any questions?
L2199[18:30:51] <Izaya> Skye: you can run darwin /s
L2200[18:30:53] <TYKUHN2> Actually it'd be VMXON
L2201[18:30:55] <Skye> We like computers, so we were interested in a mod that added computers so the people in this channel like computers.
L2202[18:31:09] <Skye> Izaya: not a true microkernel also drivers
L2203[18:31:19] <Izaya> Skye: that and Mach/XNU sucks
L2204[18:32:00] <CompanionCube> DeeJayh: if you have no questions you can always read the context
L2205[18:32:03] <CompanionCube> %oclogs
L2206[18:32:03] <MichiBot> https://oclogs.pc-logix.com/
L2207[18:32:14] <TYKUHN2> Actually I either don't have VT-d or I'm not seeing it
L2208[18:32:32] <CompanionCube> what's your CPU?
L2209[18:32:52] <TYKUHN2> Looking it up
L2210[18:33:16] <TYKUHN2> It dos
L2211[18:33:17] <TYKUHN2> It does
L2212[18:33:26] <TYKUHN2> i3 5020U on my Laptop has it
L2213[18:33:45] <Forecaster> it Dos?
L2214[18:33:48] <Forecaster> man it must be old
L2215[18:34:11] <Izaya> dos also means two in some language
L2216[18:34:16] <Izaya> and pentium IIs ran DOS
L2217[18:34:18] <Izaya> :D
L2218[18:34:32] <TYKUHN2> Also has EPT
L2219[18:34:44] <CompanionCube> Izaya: it's also used for every bios updater ever for some reason
L2220[18:35:17] <TYKUHN2> Oh fuck off with this IPT
L2221[18:35:19] <Skye> CompanionCube: ring 0 and also windows is a buggy mess
L2222[18:35:43] <DeeJayh> You need to enable Vt-d on your motherboard
L2223[18:35:47] <CompanionCube> Skye: would it be too much a stretch to just build the updater into the BIOS itself
L2224[18:35:48] <DeeJayh> Always disabled by default
L2225[18:36:04] <DeeJayh> CompanionCube, depends on the size of the updater
L2226[18:36:05] <CompanionCube> fuck I had to use DOS to flash/update my *UEFI* firmware
L2227[18:36:11] <CompanionCube> which does not make sense at all
L2228[18:36:24] <Izaya> If it's a laptop fair chance it doesn't support VT-d anyway
L2229[18:36:29] <TYKUHN2> WTF is OS Guard?
L2230[18:37:04] <DeeJayh> Izaya, only by assumption that a laptop has a shitty processor, being a laptop itself has nothing to do with it
L2231[18:37:13] <DeeJayh> The processor either supports VT-d or it doesn't
L2232[18:37:15] <Izaya> DeeJayh: it needs motherboard support also
L2233[18:37:16] <Skye> CompanionCube: guess what my BIOS has?
L2234[18:37:28] <Skye> Built in flashing tool
L2235[18:37:29] <DeeJayh> Izaya, yea if you read back a few lines you'll see I said that already
L2236[18:37:43] <Izaya> yes and I'm saying that laptops don't tend to have it
L2237[18:37:47] <Skye> My laptop suppers VT-d but my desktop doesn't
L2238[18:37:47] <Izaya> or have it less often than desktops
L2239[18:37:54] <DeeJayh> Oh?
L2240[18:37:56] <Skye> Because ThinkPad
L2241[18:37:58] <DeeJayh> I haven't noticed that
L2242[18:37:58] <CompanionCube> 'with Intel OS Guard, the processor can block the execution of any code that resides in application memory while the processor is in supervisor mode.'
L2243[18:38:00] * Izaya hands Skye VT-d on a plate
L2244[18:38:06] <CompanionCube> what defines 'application memory' though
L2245[18:38:09] <DeeJayh> but to be fair I also don't use VT-d on laptops
L2246[18:38:17] <CompanionCube> it seems something SMM-y and kernel-speciic
L2247[18:38:21] <TYKUHN2> Also who thought IPT was a good thing?
L2248[18:38:23] <Izaya> Mine has VT-d but I dunno what I'd use it for
L2249[18:38:30] <Skye> Qubes?
L2250[18:38:47] <Izaya> The only useful thing is separating networking, yeah
L2251[18:38:50] <CompanionCube> Supposedly it's useful against malware.
L2252[18:38:53] <BloodyRain2k> kinda wish there'd be a command to make a disk drive throw out the floppy
L2253[18:40:07] <Izaya> DeeJayh: to be fair it's not like you can generally stick some random card in and tell a virtual machine it can use it in a laptop
L2254[18:40:17] <Izaya> it's not overly useful
L2255[18:40:35] <BloodyRain2k> nvm, that is a thing already xD it's overkill even, made the thing fly out of render distance O_o
L2256[18:40:58] <Izaya> unless you have dedicated graphics or similar, or two WiFi cards or something, it's a little pointless
L2257[18:40:58] <DeeJayh> I mine, I stick some pretty intense things in places they should be and tell outside sources to do things with it all the time
L2258[18:41:02] <DeeJayh> Works just fine for me
L2259[18:41:15] <DeeJayh> shouldn't*
L2260[18:41:16] <BloodyRain2k> note for later: eject velocity of 100 easily covers a chunk over a drop of 5 blocks
L2261[18:41:34] <Izaya> BloodyRain2k: 100m/s?
L2262[18:42:13] <BloodyRain2k> seems like
L2263[18:42:36] * Izaya hmms
L2264[18:42:49] <DeeJayh> BloodyRain2k, perhaps you should put those notes in a place where you can retain them... I wish there was a piece of software for that... Some type of pad onto which you could place notes...
L2265[18:42:51] <BloodyRain2k> it only said velocity so I entered 100 for giggles, floppy was nowhere to be found and I thought it disintegrated, but it just went out of itementity render dist
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L2267[18:43:05] <Izaya> Guess the next project should either be streams or a proper way to init nsh connections
L2268[18:43:19] * BloodyRain2k slaps a postit onto DeeJayh's forehead: "new notepad"
L2269[18:43:21] <Izaya> streams are sorta annoying
L2270[18:43:22] <Izaya> so
L2271[18:43:53] * DeeJayh automatically updates sticky header to "Untitled - Notepad"
L2272[18:44:06] <TYKUHN2> Watching the Qubes video intro thing
L2273[18:44:07] * Izaya burns it
L2274[18:44:15] <TYKUHN2> Qubes sounds kinda heavy atleast for the disk
L2275[18:44:20] <BloodyRain2k> ok, seems like velocity is a percent value
L2276[18:44:22] * CompanionCube applies eternalblue to DeeJayh
L2277[18:44:28] <BloodyRain2k> 1 made it also go supersonic
L2278[18:44:28] * DeeJayh face catches on fire
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L2280[18:45:17] <BloodyRain2k> there, 0.01 is much better
L2281[18:45:33] <BloodyRain2k> now I get my disk back while debugging externally :D
L2282[18:45:36] <CompanionCube> y'know what else is disk-heavy? Having multiple linux distros installed on to the same /. Useful, though :D
L2283[18:45:58] <TYKUHN2> Meh
L2284[18:46:06] <TYKUHN2> 20 arch linuxes arn't *that* heavy
L2285[18:46:16] <Izaya> mint, debian and arch can be heavy though
L2286[18:46:18] <CompanionCube> why would you install 20 arch linuxes
L2287[18:46:31] <TYKUHN2> Companion why not?
L2288[18:46:40] <CompanionCube> currently I have arch, gentoo, jessie and ubuntu installed
L2289[18:46:47] <CompanionCube> the main one being gentoo
L2290[18:46:48] <TYKUHN2> Debian
L2291[18:46:51] <TYKUHN2> Debian and Win10
L2292[18:47:13] <Izaya> My condolences
L2293[18:47:14] <CompanionCube> I should update the others
L2294[18:47:19] <CompanionCube> good thing I don't have to reboot
L2295[18:47:28] <TYKUHN2> What's Gentoo perchance?
L2296[18:47:34] <Izaya> Running the other distros as containers is nice
L2297[18:47:36] <CompanionCube> ...
L2298[18:47:37] <TYKUHN2> Heard of it never bothered to look at it
L2299[18:47:49] * Izaya only has Arch and Windows 7
L2300[18:47:51] <TYKUHN2> Actually I take that back I don't run Debian
L2301[18:47:55] <CompanionCube> Izaya: who needs containers
L2302[18:48:00] <TYKUHN2> I run Kali (Which is Debian)
L2303[18:48:01] <CompanionCube> when you can do filesystem magi
L2304[18:48:12] <Izaya> what the fuck why do you run kali as an actual OS
L2305[18:48:15] <Izaya> why do people do this
L2306[18:48:20] <Izaya> why do people do this to themselves
L2307[18:48:21] <TYKUHN2> Because
L2308[18:48:23] <TYKUHN2> Reasons
L2309[18:48:27] <TYKUHN2> \o/
L2310[18:48:32] * Izaya sighs
L2311[18:48:33] <Izaya> do whatever
L2312[18:48:41] <TYKUHN2> it existed ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L2313[18:48:53] <Izaya> it's literally debian + tools
L2314[18:49:01] <Izaya> but debian + tools will get you a much saner installed system
L2315[18:49:05] <Izaya> or arch + blackarch repos
L2316[18:49:11] <TYKUHN2> Meh
L2317[18:49:13] <CompanionCube> Izaya: i would totally install kali as part of my /. Saves me having to install the tools. Using it as my main OS would be lolnope though.
L2318[18:49:16] <Izaya> and I mean you probably only use like 4 tools on the Kali CD anyway
L2319[18:49:31] <Izaya> now's the part where you tell me it's more like 8
L2320[18:49:31] <TYKUHN2> I really don't use the tool
L2321[18:49:36] <Izaya> and I get to actually doing stuff
L2322[18:49:39] <TYKUHN2> Except for looking for cameras \o/
L2323[18:50:17] <Izaya> ugh downside of thinkpads being black: they heat up in the sun
L2324[18:50:47] <CompanionCube> TYKHUN2: you should totally Install Gentoo
L2325[18:50:52] <CompanionCube> vifino would agree too.
L2326[18:50:58] <TYKUHN2> Never answered me what Gentoo was ?
L2327[18:51:28] <CompanionCube> basically, you build (almost) every part of your system from source locally
L2328[18:51:34] <TYKUHN2> Arch took a little while to get used to. Not too long
L2329[18:51:35] <CompanionCube> and you can tweak the options/bits you want per-package
L2330[18:51:47] <TYKUHN2> No... thanks?
L2331[18:53:35] <TYKUHN2> ONLY 4 GB? Qubes learn how to be heavy geese.
L2332[18:53:45] <TYKUHN2> Take it from Windows: You should be atleast 20GB
L2333[18:54:07] <CompanionCube> you know you can fit an entire usable desktop linux in 50MB
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L2335[18:55:12] <TYKUHN2> Yeah
L2336[18:55:31] <TYKUHN2> heh
L2337[18:55:41] <TYKUHN2> pausing a youtube video crashed my GPU
L2338[18:56:03] <TYKUHN2> Isn't arch less than half a gig
L2339[18:56:15] <TYKUHN2> It's not too light on features
L2340[18:56:26] <TYKUHN2> SHIT
L2341[18:56:39] <TYKUHN2> IT'S CHKDSK. HERE TO BURN DAYLIGHT HOURS
L2342[18:57:03] <TYKUHN2> Uhm
L2343[18:57:15] <TYKUHN2> It's runnin on disk S: which I never scheduled. At best I scheduled C:
L2344[18:57:24] <TYKUHN2> And that would have been an actiden
L2345[18:57:24] <BloodyRain2k> well this is stupid, IC2 charge pads don't support comparators because they have no RS mode to shut them up, they either emit because they're actively charging something, or they do because they don't, nothing else
L2346[18:58:13] <TYKUHN2> Companion why should I get Gentoo? Unless I make a Gentoo template on Qubes ?
L2347[18:58:49] <CompanionCube> why not? also, you may find it educational
L2348[18:59:51] <BloodyRain2k> yay, my modification to edit to reformat tabs works :D
L2349[19:00:29] <TYKUHN2> Where's that Qubes torrent again?
L2350[19:00:59] <Mimiru> The internet
L2351[19:01:00] <BloodyRain2k> would be nice if line = line:gsub("\t", " ")
L2352[19:01:00] <BloodyRain2k> could be inserted into OpenOS' edit.lua at line 628, then it can handle tabs by default :>
L2353[19:01:19] <BloodyRain2k> ah fuck you xchat, I totally forgot about the invisible linebreaks
L2354[19:01:25] <BloodyRain2k> whatever
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L2356[19:01:33] <BloodyRain2k> time to figure out file io
L2357[19:01:34] <TYKUHN2> Alternatively gsub with multiple spaces?
L2358[19:01:40] <BloodyRain2k> ?
L2359[19:01:46] <TYKUHN2> Or just properly display tabs?
L2360[19:02:17] <BloodyRain2k> properly displaying them would leave the files as distorted as they are when you use tabs externally but not internally
L2361[19:02:30] <TYKUHN2> Funny thing this
L2362[19:02:41] <BloodyRain2k> this way the file looks better the next time you open it externally and the formatting is not matching either way, but atleast consistent
L2363[19:02:54] <TYKUHN2> My user account and parition name for this install is "TEMP" but it is DEFINATELY not a temp install anymore
L2364[19:03:22] <BloodyRain2k> also what'd you mean with the multiple spaces? that are 2 of them there, not my fault irc can't show that properly :x
L2365[19:03:36] <TYKUHN2> Discord looks like a single space
L2366[19:03:38] <Mimiru> s\ \ \
L2367[19:03:42] <Mimiru> aww
L2368[19:03:44] <BloodyRain2k> same for me
L2369[19:03:50] <BloodyRain2k> it's still two
L2370[19:03:54] <TYKUHN2> It's not two
L2371[19:03:57] <TYKUHN2> I just highlighted it
L2372[19:04:05] <Mimiru> it is 2 on IRC
L2373[19:04:07] <BloodyRain2k> it's still two on my end
L2374[19:04:13] <TYKUHN2> CORDED
L2375[19:04:14] <Mimiru> Discord likely does something stupid to it
L2376[19:04:18] <BloodyRain2k> so discord is distorting reality :D
L2377[19:04:26] <BloodyRain2k> THE DISCORD IS A LIE!
L2378[19:04:33] <TYKUHN2> I blame Corded.
L2379[19:04:50] <BloodyRain2k> that line just looks funny
L2380[19:04:52] <TYKUHN2> This mv operation is taking a while
L2381[19:04:58] <Mimiru> I blame @TYKUHN2
L2382[19:05:20] <BloodyRain2k> #cookiesForMimiru
L2383[19:05:32] <TYKUHN2> I was thinking "just move the reference you idiot" then remembered the node (inode?) is on a different partition
L2384[19:05:42] <BloodyRain2k> I almost forgot what I wanted to do again, file io, damn I can't focus at all
L2385[19:06:05] <TYKUHN2> It's a huge file containing some deprecated(?) vms
L2386[19:06:15] <TYKUHN2> Including a Hackintosh ?
L2387[19:08:44] <TYKUHN2> Mv doesn't have a way of checking progress does it?
L2388[19:08:51] <TYKUHN2> Should have used DD :F
L2389[19:09:46] <Mimiru> Should have built mv with -g support
L2390[19:10:05] <Mimiru> s/built/patched/
L2391[19:10:15] <MichiBot> <Mimiru> Should have patched mv with -g support
L2392[19:10:34] <DeeJayh> I totally wiped out my filesystem earlier
L2393[19:10:39] <DeeJayh> facepalmed so hard
L2394[19:10:51] <TYKUHN2> I've done that 2 or three times now
L2395[19:10:53] <DeeJayh> regressed 10 years and made the ultimate newbie mistake
L2396[19:10:59] <TYKUHN2> It's always a rm -rf /* that gets me
L2397[19:11:01] <DeeJayh> rm /*
L2398[19:11:02] <DeeJayh> yup
L2399[19:11:08] <DeeJayh> mine was -dr
L2400[19:11:09] <TYKUHN2> Once on the pi
L2401[19:11:12] <DeeJayh> but same Idea
L2402[19:11:13] <TYKUHN2> Once on this laptop
L2403[19:11:24] <DeeJayh> LOL I just mean OC
L2404[19:11:26] <TYKUHN2> And I lost some code progress as well
L2405[19:11:31] <DeeJayh> That sucks
L2406[19:11:33] <TYKUHN2> Well I actually did it ?
L2407[19:11:48] <AmandaC> What possibly reason could you have to type the string "/*"
L2408[19:11:50] <TYKUHN2> This laptop I caught early enough only /bin and /etc (and some /usr) was hit
L2409[19:12:04] <TYKUHN2> AmandaC I mean to type ./* but I missed the .
L2410[19:12:15] <TYKUHN2> Was deleting a cross compiler IIRC
L2411[19:12:15] <gamax92> hurray for a patched rm that also checks if you're trying to recursively delete directors that are in /
L2412[19:12:24] <AmandaC> ./* is just as silly. just use *, it's scoped to pwd anyway
L2413[19:12:45] <TYKUHN2> Either that or I meant to type * and reflexively typed / I don't remember
L2414[19:13:18] <Izaya> \o/
L2415[19:13:24] <Izaya> automatic negotiation of nsh sessions
L2416[19:13:27] <TYKUHN2> The pi I probably could have undone
L2417[19:14:09] <TYKUHN2> But it was a pi with no real work on it so I just threw Kodi on it.
L2418[19:14:26] <TYKUHN2> Or was it Asterisk?
L2419[19:14:39] <TYKUHN2> I think I threw RasPBX on it.
L2420[19:15:02] <TYKUHN2> Had some fun before I went back to Raspbian Lite (now with standalone Kodi ? )
L2421[19:15:59] <TYKUHN2> ONe sec going to check if my Pi is on the lazy way (SSH style)
L2422[19:16:27] <TYKUHN2> Damnit
L2423[19:16:33] <TYKUHN2> Fucking windows virus won't go away
L2424[19:17:27] <TYKUHN2> As far as I can tell it just reinstalls Anonimizer Gadget everytime I uninstall or scrub it, and it doesn't even do it right.
L2425[19:18:56] <TYKUHN2> Going to do a Micro-scan see if I can catch it
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L2427[19:23:35] <TYKUHN2> Heh
L2428[19:23:41] <TYKUHN2> Youtuber actidentally livestreamed something
L2429[19:23:56] <TYKUHN2> But because it's less than a second long it doesn't even count as a video and can't be deleted.
L2430[19:24:13] <Izaya> http://pb.i0i0.me/p/raw/w9KOM86X
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L2432[19:24:55] <Izaya> w
L2433[19:24:59] <Izaya> this is not vim
L2434[19:25:37] <TYKUHN2> Wait this Isn't VIM?
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L2436[19:25:56] * AshIndigo just finished prey
L2437[19:26:09] * AshIndigo runs around erratically
L2438[19:26:25] <TYKUHN2> FFS
L2439[19:26:32] <TYKUHN2> "Low disk space" Apparently means 0 bytes
L2440[19:27:58] <BloodyRain2k> yay, got output in a file
L2441[19:28:05] <BloodyRain2k> now for loading that crap :D
L2442[19:28:37] <BloodyRain2k> oh that reminds me of that time where my windows broke itself because it let C: fill up to the point where it couldn't run nor boot anymore
L2443[19:28:43] <TYKUHN2> WAIT WHAT
L2444[19:28:52] <TYKUHN2> 0 bytes of diskspace and mv continued operating
L2445[19:29:07] <BloodyRain2k> that was fun figuring out why it didn't work, because the retarded motherfucker didn't even tell you that THAT was the problem, it just didn't work anymore
L2446[19:30:31] <BloodyRain2k> how do I get the path of where a program's file is at compared to the path from where it was called?
L2447[19:30:57] <TYKUHN2> OC's PWD equalvialent contains where it was called from
L2448[19:31:07] <TYKUHN2> process.running contains where the file's located
L2449[19:31:21] <BloodyRain2k> thanks I'll try that
L2450[19:34:15] <gamax92> shell.resolve
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L2452[19:35:33] <TYKUHN2> Question
L2453[19:35:40] <Mimiru> sarcastic answer
L2454[19:35:40] <TYKUHN2> Beyond the disappearing message
L2455[19:35:58] <TYKUHN2> Does OC allow aquiring all components of a command i.e. the path used to execute the command
L2456[19:36:23] <Izaya> ~w shell
L2457[19:36:23] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/api:shell
L2458[19:36:55] <TYKUHN2> I know sshd uses it to ensure you're running it using exact path
L2459[19:37:35] <vifino> CompanionCube: that or freebsd
L2460[19:37:38] <vifino> or gentoo/freebsd
L2461[19:37:53] <Izaya> genbsd
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L2463[19:40:24] <vifino> Izaya: Gentoo/FreeBSD is Gentoo on top of FreeBSD.
L2464[19:40:32] <Izaya> I know
L2465[19:40:43] <Izaya> It sounds horrific but probably something I'd try
L2466[19:40:56] <vifino> It's horrible to install.
L2467[19:41:02] <vifino> Even for gentoo standards.
L2468[19:41:49] <TYKUHN2> Uhhh shit
L2469[19:41:54] <TYKUHN2> I have GoldClick
L2470[19:42:05] <TYKUHN2> Suspiciously only PUP
L2471[19:43:50] <Izaya> how do people even end up with malware
L2472[19:45:00] <BloodyRain2k> ignorance?
L2473[19:45:13] <gamax92> be TYKUHN2
L2474[19:45:27] <BloodyRain2k> #blameCorded
L2475[19:45:46] <TYKUHN2> IDK how do people end up getting EternalBlue malware?
L2476[19:46:15] <BloodyRain2k> last time I had malware is a decade or more ago
L2477[19:47:54] <BloodyRain2k> would be nice if the nav modules for robots and drones would give a rough pointer at the center of their use map if you're too far to get exact coordinates, just so the buggers can find back
L2478[19:48:07] <TYKUHN2> I think GoldClick phones home using RDP but it appears to have failed
L2479[19:50:31] <Izaya> http://pb.i0i0.me/p/jC2talr0
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L2481[19:52:40] <BloodyRain2k> mhm, is a high range map giving the module more range at the cost of accuracy?
L2482[19:54:27] <DeeJayh> Izaya, does multice use the lua BIOS, or did you write your own?
L2483[19:54:47] <Izaya> DeeJayh: it can either use the Lua BIOS or it can load partially as the BIOS
L2484[19:55:04] <Izaya> or if you have a sufficiently small system it can all be in the EEPROM
L2485[19:56:06] <TYKUHN2> What's MultiICE?
L2486[19:56:52] <Izaya> https://shadowkat.net/projects/multice/
L2487[19:57:39] <BloodyRain2k> witchcraft
L2488[19:57:45] <TYKUHN2> Huh
L2489[19:57:52] <TYKUHN2> Interestingly small...
L2490[19:58:25] <Izaya> most recent achievement is background user sessions
L2491[19:58:33] <TYKUHN2> Thou art a witch. Burn her.
L2492[19:59:04] <Izaya> Well, sessions in general
L2493[19:59:15] <Izaya> which also means I can have a session for logging
L2494[19:59:50] <DeeJayh> BIOS is basic input/output, it interfaces with the hardware, then you have the OS, which uses functions provided by the BIOS to do set up everything else, like user sessions, GUI etc etc
L2495[20:00:05] <BloodyRain2k> yay, I got my output in the right place now :D
L2496[20:00:06] <DeeJayh> so how does multice function partially as the bios?
L2497[20:00:09] <BloodyRain2k> NOW for reading that crap
L2498[20:00:23] <Izaya> the normal Lua BIOS finds a file on a storage device and runs it
L2499[20:00:32] <Izaya> MultICE can just have all the code in the EEPROM
L2500[20:01:33] <Izaya> machine.lua provides stuff more like a BIOS really
L2501[20:01:36] <Izaya> but you can't change that
L2502[20:01:42] <Izaya> it also imposes the memory limits
L2503[20:03:04] <Izaya> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/blob/master-MC1.7.10/src/main/resources/assets/opencomputers/lua/bios.lua
L2504[20:07:43] <DeeJayh> ok so basically the BIOS is just to start the OS and the OS contains the opcodes
L2505[20:07:49] <DeeJayh> for OC/OpenComputer
L2506[20:07:56] <Izaya> yeah
L2507[20:08:02] <DeeJayh> OpenOS*
L2508[20:08:06] <DeeJayh> hmm
L2509[20:08:08] <DeeJayh> intriguing
L2510[20:08:38] <Izaya> I have some vague plan to have MultICE acting as a hypervisor for OpenOS
L2511[20:08:44] <Izaya> run multiple of them on the same system
L2512[20:08:52] <Izaya> use it as a drop-in BIOS replacement
L2513[20:09:31] <Izaya> just have to replace computer.pullSignal for OpenOS
L2514[20:09:40] <Izaya> make it yield until it finds stuff
L2515[20:10:06] <BloodyRain2k> every single time I need it is lua pissing me off with it's lack of a string.split function
L2516[20:10:14] <Izaya> make one
L2517[20:13:38] <Izaya> DeeJayh: I have, in the past, done EEPROM-only nsh clients
L2518[20:13:47] <Izaya> so I could have dirt-cheap tier 1 boxes acting as terminals
L2519[20:13:54] * Izaya is still waiting for all-in-one computers
L2520[20:14:03] <Izaya> that are blocks, specifically
L2521[20:14:05] <BloodyRain2k> I did, it wasn't working in OC but in lua general
L2522[20:14:23] <BloodyRain2k> seems like OC doesn't like function string:split() as definition
L2523[20:14:42] <Izaya> you're generally not meant to use : in function definitions I believe
L2524[20:15:02] <BloodyRain2k> it ran in IDEone's lua interpreter fine
L2525[20:15:14] <BloodyRain2k> so either that's converting nonsense to sane or OC has a deviation
L2526[20:15:27] <Izaya> well, OC uses native, normal lua
L2527[20:15:59] <TYKUHN2> "Native"
L2528[20:16:18] <TYKUHN2> Is it native or is it LuaJ (or similar)
L2529[20:16:23] <Izaya> Native.
L2530[20:16:57] <Izaya> Assuming it's Windows, Linux x86(_64) or ARM, OS suX, FreeBSD or OpenBSD.
L2531[20:16:57] <BloodyRain2k> if I change it to function string.split() then ideOne breaks
L2532[20:17:07] <BloodyRain2k> so it seems the : is fine
L2533[20:17:16] <Izaya> let's see the code
L2534[20:17:40] <BloodyRain2k> http://ideone.com/iqNxjT
L2535[20:18:08] <BloodyRain2k> that's the function 1:1 how I fed it OC and it threw a nil error saying split didn't exist
L2536[20:18:21] <BloodyRain2k> maybe I just needed require("string"), didn't try that
L2537[20:20:37] <Izaya> huh
L2538[20:20:40] <Izaya> works in plain Lua
L2539[20:20:41] <Izaya> http://i.imgur.com/liAj0Fg.png
L2540[20:21:21] <TYKUHN2> geno-arch
L2541[20:22:34] <Izaya> should've gone with t420blazeit but what's done is done
L2542[20:25:06] <TYKUHN2> hostname 420blazeit
L2543[20:25:38] <Izaya> nah
L2544[20:25:43] <Izaya> t420blazeit
L2545[20:26:22] <TYKUHN2> Is that a joke? ?
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L2547[20:26:35] <Izaya> yes
L2548[20:26:46] <Izaya> isn't anything with that number in it?
L2549[20:30:21] <TYKUHN2> Heh
L2550[20:30:27] <TYKUHN2> Game started throwing symbols in
L2551[20:30:37] <TYKUHN2> Kids couldn't figure out what the floppy was and it ruined them
L2552[20:33:42] <TYKUHN2> Time to download and maybe make a torrent a free video
L2553[20:33:51] <TYKUHN2> Since weird legal reasons it may have to be removed
L2554[20:34:29] <TYKUHN2> Errror
L2555[20:34:37] <TYKUHN2> Malware bytes found over 2000 items
L2556[20:38:32] <Izaya> how even
L2557[20:39:33] <TYKUHN2> It's all the same item just different intenal files
L2558[20:39:46] <Izaya> question still stands
L2559[20:41:02] <TYKUHN2> It's just a large AnonimizerGadget
L2560[20:41:46] <Izaya> how
L2561[20:42:02] <TYKUHN2> I'm wondering how to tell when VLC is finished
L2562[20:43:23] <TYKUHN2> Might actually bother adding a menu to it
L2563[20:43:43] <TYKUHN2> IDK he has a bluray so he might have already done so.
L2564[20:46:08] <TYKUHN2> HOLY
L2565[20:46:15] <TYKUHN2> CPU so stressed Windows background died
L2566[20:46:23] <TYKUHN2> And there goes Explorer.exe
L2567[20:48:23] <Izaya> shiny
L2568[20:48:33] <Izaya> new network terminal still fits in an EEPROM
L2569[20:48:52] <TYKUHN2> So does MultiICE ?
L2570[20:49:01] <Izaya> not with all the modules
L2571[20:49:06] <TYKUHN2> Awww
L2572[20:49:08] <Izaya> all the modules is about 10k
L2573[20:49:36] <Izaya> but with just the stuff for a network terminal it's just under 4k
L2574[20:49:57] <Izaya> -> I can have a network terminal tablet
L2575[20:50:20] <peelz> Is there a good ncurses-like library for OC (text GUIs)?
L2576[20:50:28] <Izaya> there was
L2577[20:50:32] <Izaya> dunno what happened to it
L2578[20:50:36] <peelz> uh?
L2579[20:51:00] <Izaya> the GPU is fairly capable though
L2580[20:51:06] <peelz> mhm
L2581[20:51:19] <Izaya> yeah there was one or two libraries for drawing GUIs
L2582[20:51:21] <TYKUHN2> Network terminal microcontroller?
L2583[20:51:27] <TYKUHN2> NEtwork terminal drone?
L2584[20:51:37] <Izaya> TTYKUHN2: but there's no point to that
L2585[20:51:57] <BloodyRain2k> nice, now my measuring stops early when it gets 5x the same reading which including the first after which the counter was last reset means 30sec
L2586[20:52:06] <BloodyRain2k> then everything is written down and it's done :3
L2587[20:52:13] <TYKUHN2> No point to networked drone?
L2588[20:52:25] <Izaya> No point to a network terminal drone
L2589[20:52:33] <Izaya> because they don't have monitors or keyboards
L2590[20:52:35] <BloodyRain2k> now I just need to make sure it doesn't wreck the data with multiple entries as I only have a single one so far and then I make it bootable for easier running
L2591[20:52:39] <TYKUHN2> Oh I see
L2592[20:52:42] <Izaya> Now, a terminal server on a drone is another matter
L2593[20:52:44] <TYKUHN2> I was thinking network server
L2594[20:53:19] <Izaya> Nah the code for just a networked device is like 1.25k
L2595[20:53:37] <peelz> Izaya: so... there's no real good/prefered way of designing GUIs?
L2596[20:53:46] <Izaya> Not to my knowledge
L2597[20:53:50] <TYKUHN2> Should I install vlc on my kali? SURE
L2598[20:53:51] <Izaya> but I don't really check the forums
L2599[20:53:51] <peelz> rip
L2600[20:54:13] <TYKUHN2> Didn't a more recent update add GPU windows
L2601[20:55:03] <TYKUHN2> 80MB oooo VLC is a heavy beast
L2602[20:55:29] * Izaya has no idea
L2603[20:55:34] <Izaya> I just use it as a vt52
L2604[20:55:51] <Izaya> So, a terminal server in EEPROM is 2.8k
L2605[20:55:59] <Izaya> you don't get filesystem-related goodies but...
L2606[20:56:11] <TYKUHN2> Last I check it was undocumented
L2607[20:56:19] <TYKUHN2> Basically @peelz poke around the GPU api ingame
L2608[20:56:31] <Izaya> It'll give you a working way to remotely login to stuff
L2609[20:56:59] <Izaya> it'll even support multiple logins at once
L2610[20:57:08] <peelz> @TYKUHN2 Uh... the GPU api doesn't have anything built-in for high-level components. >_>
L2611[20:57:08] <TYKUHN2> I'm tempted now
L2612[20:57:14] <Izaya> 'course that needs a little more glue code so I'm guessing it'd actually be about 3k
L2613[20:57:18] <Izaya> which means 1k for user code
L2614[20:57:23] <Izaya> or you could add filesystem stuff
L2615[20:57:24] <Izaya> either way
L2616[20:57:29] <TYKUHN2> I know for a fact GPUs can now render off screen for faster load times
L2617[20:57:54] <TYKUHN2> Izaya what's a network server with networked filesystem require?
L2618[20:57:58] <peelz> That's why I was asking whether someone had made a library for GUI components (kinda like ncurses).
L2619[20:58:04] <TYKUHN2> Or atleast an RPC style system
L2620[20:58:14] <Izaya> Don't have networked filesystem implemented
L2621[20:58:24] <Izaya> RPC in what form
L2622[20:58:38] <Izaya> RPC as in remote procedure call could arguably be implemented by the network shell
L2623[20:58:51] <Izaya> because you can remotely call procedures
L2624[20:58:56] <Izaya> so if you want to do it that way it works
L2625[20:59:10] <TYKUHN2> Basically what I'm thinking is have some sort of drone run files from a remote server that allow certain actions, some privilaged, some not.
L2626[20:59:59] <Izaya> certain actions
L2627[21:00:02] <Izaya> you're not saying anything
L2628[21:00:18] <BloodyRain2k> I just wanna be able to upload my code to the drone's ram and run it from there
L2629[21:00:33] <TYKUHN2> IDK
L2630[21:00:37] <BloodyRain2k> 1MB ram is way more playground for me than 4kb rom
L2631[21:00:38] <TYKUHN2> Networked drones enough are cool
L2632[21:01:13] <Izaya> BloodyRain2k: I mean I have a thing that does that in like 1k
L2633[21:01:29] <Izaya> also gives you semiproper networking
L2634[21:01:38] <TYKUHN2> Does the network server implement permissions/login systems?
L2635[21:01:45] <Izaya> It does not.
L2636[21:01:50] <TYKUHN2> Aww
L2637[21:01:55] <TYKUHN2> Can drones have data cards?
L2638[21:01:59] <Izaya> Yes?
L2639[21:02:08] <TYKUHN2> Sweet
L2640[21:02:10] <Izaya> It does check the sender address but that can be spoofed
L2641[21:02:28] <TYKUHN2> Link cards are hard to spoof but they only offer limited use then
L2642[21:03:09] <TYKUHN2> (Personally I wish OC's networking was more realistic)
L2643[21:03:23] <Izaya> you'd be better off using a different vlan and using some form of encryption
L2644[21:03:52] <Izaya> wouldn't be hard to force my networking stack to encrypt literally everything
L2645[21:03:59] <Izaya> long as you didn't mind using one key
L2646[21:04:10] <TYKUHN2> I was thinking wifi card that will accept any incoming packet but only allow shell usage from encrypted ones using a known ke
L2647[21:04:10] <Izaya> also uh
L2648[21:04:11] <TYKUHN2> I was thinking wifi card that will accept any incoming packet but only allow shell usage from encrypted ones using a known key
L2649[21:04:28] <TYKUHN2> Kinda allows bridging implicitly
L2650[21:04:29] <Izaya> drones have a 64k filesystem that loses its data on power off, y'know?
L2651[21:05:10] <Izaya> very few programs are gonna end up being 64k so that's a good place to store stuff while it's running
L2652[21:06:15] <BloodyRain2k> this is weird, I've set up my program so that it saves the results next to it (which is /home) but the file ends up in /, and I don't get why because when I run it from disk it saves on the disk
L2653[21:06:55] <Izaya> how are you opening it?
L2654[21:08:24] <BloodyRain2k> /home # tank
L2655[21:08:34] <BloodyRain2k> runs if fine but the path result is /
L2656[21:08:41] <BloodyRain2k> even though it's in /home
L2657[21:09:12] <BloodyRain2k> as for how I'm getting the path: filesystem.path(process.info().path)
L2658[21:09:40] * Izaya shrugs
L2659[21:09:47] <TYKUHN2> Doesn't process.running() give you path
L2660[21:10:05] <BloodyRain2k> according to the doc that's deprecated and it's giving me a mess of a table
L2661[21:10:13] <TYKUHN2> ALso process.info().path might include a filename
L2662[21:10:24] <BloodyRain2k> it does which is why I run fs.path over it
L2663[21:10:32] <TYKUHN2> Oh right didn't see that
L2664[21:10:47] <TYKUHN2> Damn desktop being slow
L2665[21:11:51] <BloodyRain2k> dunno why but things run from /home have a path of "<filename>"
L2666[21:12:11] <BloodyRain2k> they also don't contain the extension unless you enter that to run them but that's unimportant for my use here so whatever
L2667[21:12:41] <TYKUHN2> Returns a table containing the command and path of the specified process, and some other data
L2668[21:12:50] <TYKUHN2> I assume you're grabbing the path
L2669[21:12:59] <TYKUHN2> Wouldn't have a clue
L2670[21:13:08] <TYKUHN2> Could try shell.resolve
L2671[21:13:32] <Izaya> 4049 bytes for remote terminal server and filesystem stuff
L2672[21:13:36] <Izaya> not all the filesystem stuff
L2673[21:13:38] <Izaya> just most of it
L2674[21:14:37] <BloodyRain2k> process.running() returns the same, just "<filename>"
L2675[21:14:55] <Izaya> http://i.imgur.com/YgWBJV8.png
L2676[21:14:57] <TYKUHN2> Someone update the GPU page please. For the love of god it's old now
L2677[21:15:03] <DeeJayh> Izaya, I'm late to the convo but you can already transmit encrypted data
L2678[21:15:10] <DeeJayh> and honestly, it's the smart thing to do
L2679[21:15:22] <Izaya> of course you can
L2680[21:15:24] <Izaya> I'm just saying
L2681[21:15:32] <DeeJayh> I see what you mean though
L2682[21:15:36] <Izaya> if you want you can modify the networking stack I use to make it all encrypted
L2683[21:15:38] <DeeJayh> it's like wireless redstone
L2684[21:15:43] <DeeJayh> "pick a frequency"
L2685[21:15:51] <DeeJayh> well what if someone else picks that frequency...
L2686[21:16:12] <Izaya> then hope they're not trying to spoof your nsh sessions
L2687[21:16:22] <Izaya> though there's no auth on nsh currently anyway so
L2688[21:16:28] <DeeJayh> you use nsh?
L2689[21:16:30] <BloodyRain2k> resolve works, just has the "filename" additionally, but maybe that works with fs
L2690[21:16:37] <TYKUHN2> I suppose all you really need is a RAMFS with a little piece of code which receives a signed packet of data that is the code I'm actually intrested in.
L2691[21:16:38] <DeeJayh> I'm still a bourne again shell kinda guy
L2692[21:16:43] <Izaya> I implemented remote login and called it nsh
L2693[21:16:59] <Izaya> You don't need the ramfs
L2694[21:17:11] <Izaya> if you really want a filesystem you can use the built-in tmpfs
L2695[21:17:21] <Izaya> which is 64k of space that doesn't take working memory
L2696[21:17:27] <BloodyRain2k> filesystem.path(shell.resolve(process.info().path)) works :3
L2697[21:17:28] <Izaya> or you could just have a buffer in memory
L2698[21:17:32] <TYKUHN2> IDK
L2699[21:17:36] <TYKUHN2> Although
L2700[21:17:46] <BloodyRain2k> quite a mess just to get the path, but atleast it seems to work now (bet it now breaks with the disk)
L2701[21:17:50] <TYKUHN2> If your code is 4k anything I could want is probably MUCH smalelr than 64k
L2702[21:18:04] <Izaya> p. much
L2703[21:18:22] <Izaya> todo: network boot of some kind that copies the entire system to the tmpfs
L2704[21:19:28] <TYKUHN2> So glad my headphones came with a cable combiner
L2705[21:20:35] <TYKUHN2> There
L2706[21:20:45] <TYKUHN2> Finally got a good speedy VLC running downloading the video
L2707[21:22:13] <DeeJayh> https://github.com/OpenPrograms/gamax92-Programs/blob/master/filesystems/msdos.lua
L2708[21:22:16] <DeeJayh> MS-DOS^
L2709[21:22:25] <DeeJayh> If you're feeling cringy
L2710[21:23:09] <Izaya> block filesystems are interesting
L2711[21:23:16] <Izaya> but I don't really have a use for FAT-12
L2712[21:24:03] <TYKUHN2> Annoyingly VLC's video playback locked up but audio didn't.
L2713[21:24:13] <vifino> CP/M filesystem op.
L2714[21:27:14] <BloodyRain2k> when drawing hentai goes wrong: http://i.imgur.com/Pu0yEW1.jpg (from http://imgur.com/gallery/wThzs)
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L2716[21:29:33] <TYKUHN2> I love that myth: "Letting your battery die saves it's life"
L2717[21:29:47] <TYKUHN2> Its so deeply ingrained when I counter it people always deny it
L2718[21:34:00] <TYKUHN2> Massive buffering mode ENGAGE
L2719[21:34:46] <TYKUHN2> NOOO
L2720[21:34:50] <TYKUHN2> VLC's lua crashed
L2721[21:46:24] <TYKUHN2> How does his art go off the paper
L2722[21:46:33] <TYKUHN2> That's my question
L2723[21:47:34] <gamax92> DeeJayh: not much cringy about FAT12 and FAT16 support
L2724[21:48:21] <DeeJayh> gamax92, just natively support file allocation tables...
L2725[21:48:31] <DeeJayh> skip the M$ DOS
L2726[21:48:52] <DeeJayh> Not knocking your project, just MSDOS in general
L2727[21:50:17] <BloodyRain2k> is it possible to force OOS to "crash" so that the pc's status indicator turns red?
L2728[21:50:25] <DeeJayh> cut power
L2729[21:50:30] <DeeJayh> only way I know
L2730[21:50:34] <BloodyRain2k> I mean code wise <.<
L2731[21:50:41] <DeeJayh> look at init
L2732[21:50:43] <TYKUHN2> OOS?
L2733[21:50:47] <BloodyRain2k> OpenOS
L2734[21:51:06] <TYKUHN2> It's not CC so you can kill rednet ?
L2735[21:51:11] <TYKUHN2> can't*
L2736[21:52:27] <TYKUHN2> IDK
L2737[21:52:36] <TYKUHN2> MightyPirates actually know how to code good luck.
L2738[21:53:29] <TYKUHN2> Best bet is replacing a function somewhere. Won't be easy I bet since it's all sandboxed.
L2739[21:54:14] <BloodyRain2k> mhm
L2740[21:54:26] <BloodyRain2k> clearing the rom and rebooting could work xD but only once
L2741[21:54:30] <TYKUHN2> Maybe try installing a trigger into the boot scripts
L2742[21:55:02] <DeeJayh> man I do not understand using components at all
L2743[21:55:10] <DeeJayh> the documentation for OC triggers the shit out of me
L2744[21:55:20] <DeeJayh> maybe I'm just trash, but I can never find the information I need
L2745[21:55:21] <TYKUHN2> WHERE'S MY GPU DOCS?
L2746[21:55:30] <TYKUHN2> I want my GPU docs ?
L2747[21:55:48] <TYKUHN2> DeeJayh what are you trying to do?
L2748[21:56:03] <DeeJayh> BloodyRain2k, ty actually has a good idea, edit the boot scripts and tie in a Ctrl+whatever to cause the crash
L2749[21:56:18] <TYKUHN2> Alternatively just write a new bootscript
L2750[21:56:21] <DeeJayh> ty, i'm trying to just understand how to use components
L2751[21:56:26] <TYKUHN2> The loading sequence isn't hardcoded
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L2753[21:57:02] <TYKUHN2> comp = require("comp") someComponent = comp.proxy(addr) someComponent.someFunction
L2754[21:57:10] <TYKUHN2> errr
L2755[21:57:12] <TYKUHN2> Require component
L2756[21:57:14] <BloodyRain2k> I just want to turn the status led red when the code went wrong so I can leave out the screen until something does go wrong :x
L2757[21:57:20] <gamax92> DeeJayh: the only thing it does is support FAT12 and FAT16 ...
L2758[21:57:43] <gamax92> the only reason it's called msdos.lua is because the respective filesystem driver in linux is also called msdos
L2759[21:58:00] <DeeJayh> gamax92, I misread the title, you're right, it wasn't misleading, I'm just blind af
L2760[21:58:05] <DeeJayh> "msdosfs : Provides msdos filesystem support"
L2761[21:58:10] <DeeJayh> soz
L2762[21:58:50] <TYKUHN2> BloodRain2k I'm pretty sure that status light is in machine.lua
L2763[21:58:55] <TYKUHN2> Good luck with that
L2764[21:59:00] <TYKUHN2> Alternatively try computer.beep()
L2765[21:59:07] <DeeJayh> TY, yea `local comp = require "component"
L2766[21:59:08] <gamax92> @TYKUHN2 it's not
L2767[21:59:11] <DeeJayh> then what
L2768[21:59:20] <DeeJayh> because I'm totally unable to do anything with it from there
L2769[21:59:38] <DeeJayh> looking for an example in a script as we speak
L2770[21:59:45] <TYKUHN2> comp is a component library which allows you access to components. For exmaple comp.gpu would be the primary (currently active) gou
L2771[21:59:57] <DeeJayh> oh my god
L2772[21:59:58] <DeeJayh> ok
L2773[21:59:59] <TYKUHN2> Each component has it's own api
L2774[22:00:00] <DeeJayh> I see it now
L2775[22:00:01] <DeeJayh> yup
L2776[22:00:03] <BloodyRain2k> I'm already using beep
L2777[22:00:13] <BloodyRain2k> I constantly overhear it because I'm distracted with other things
L2778[22:00:22] <DeeJayh> so `local c = require component` then local m = c.modem
L2779[22:00:25] <DeeJayh> ?
L2780[22:00:31] <TYKUHN2> Probably
L2781[22:00:36] <DeeJayh> right right
L2782[22:00:41] <DeeJayh> like i said blind
L2783[22:00:44] <TYKUHN2> I'm honestly not sure if OpenOS makes a primary modem
L2784[22:01:08] <TYKUHN2> (OpenOS created component.someComponent, normally you have to list and proxy)
L2785[22:01:31] <TYKUHN2> gamax where's the light then?
L2786[22:03:44] <TYKUHN2> \o/ MalwareBytes is almsot finished!
L2787[22:07:04] <gamax92> in Scala
L2788[22:07:53] <TYKUHN2> >.>
L2789[22:07:57] <TYKUHN2> That's basically what I meant
L2790[22:08:07] <DeeJayh> local c = require component; local m = component.modem; m.open(123)
L2791[22:08:15] <DeeJayh> getting a stack traceback, no results
L2792[22:08:22] <TYKUHN2> What's it say
L2793[22:08:35] <gamax92> machine.lua is not scala code.
L2794[22:08:58] <DeeJayh> in function `xpcall` and function 'pcall'
L2795[22:09:00] <gamax92> it's not exposed to machine.lua
L2796[22:09:09] <DeeJayh> not really sure how to read this debug
L2797[22:09:19] <DeeJayh> issue ends in /lib/process.lua
L2798[22:09:33] <TYKUHN2> Well first off make sure component is surronded in quotes
L2799[22:09:58] <DeeJayh> it was
L2800[22:10:07] <TYKUHN2> Ensure that component.modem exists
L2801[22:10:08] <DeeJayh> i just forgot when i retyped it here
L2802[22:11:00] <DeeJayh> well I mean... I know it exists
L2803[22:11:07] <DeeJayh> it's in the modular slot on the robot
L2804[22:11:14] <DeeJayh> lemme look in the api to find out how to call it to be sure
L2805[22:11:28] <TYKUHN2> m.open should be correct
L2806[22:11:49] <TYKUHN2> Either component.modem doesn't exist or it REALLY hates your single line method.
L2807[22:12:09] <BloodyRain2k> I think server boards can't beep
L2808[22:12:17] <DeeJayh> lua> for k,v in component.list() do print(k, v) end
L2809[22:12:19] <BloodyRain2k> which would explain why I kept overhearing them
L2810[22:12:23] <DeeJayh> I see the uuid and "modem"
L2811[22:12:27] <DeeJayh> as one in the list
L2812[22:12:57] <TYKUHN2> Should be able to beep
L2813[22:13:11] <TYKUHN2> Don't see why it wouldn't
L2814[22:13:36] <DeeJayh> http://imgur.com/2Vj9Un4
L2815[22:13:51] <TYKUHN2> DeeJayh you're doing two different operations here
L2816[22:14:05] <DeeJayh> how so?
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L2818[22:14:14] <TYKUHN2> component.modem is set by OpenOS. component.list is built in.
L2819[22:14:20] <BloodyRain2k> ah ok yeah, it's beeping, it's just soooooo quiet that I barely hear it, and I actually have sensitive hearing
L2820[22:14:34] <DeeJayh> but with that I PROVED that modem, in fact, exists
L2821[22:14:38] <DeeJayh> ?
L2822[22:14:47] <TYKUHN2> You proved the modem exists, you didn't prove component.modem exists
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L2824[22:15:11] <TYKUHN2> Confirm that component.modem is actually set. Although I don't think it wouldn't be because it would have a different error probably
L2825[22:16:05] <TYKUHN2> BloodyRain2k computer.beep(freq, duration) increase freq ?
L2826[22:16:11] <DeeJayh> http://imgur.com/V4uqz5N
L2827[22:16:18] <DeeJayh> TYKUHN2
L2828[22:16:40] <TYKUHN2> Alright now can you screenshot the error?
L2829[22:17:21] <DeeJayh> http://imgur.com/Satv9tz
L2830[22:17:50] <BloodyRain2k> yeah ok, that worked somewhat
L2831[22:18:01] <TYKUHN2> I can't remember lua stack trace order
L2832[22:18:36] <BloodyRain2k> now to get the thing to run at boot and shutdown if done and in case of a crash it hopefully runs the next program in.shrc so that it actually beeps if something went wrong
L2833[22:18:53] <BloodyRain2k> then I can just plonk it down without keyboard and screen and it should still work
L2834[22:19:57] <TYKUHN2> Freq * Intensity = Power ? power is volume and OC dictates intensity ?
L2835[22:19:59] <BloodyRain2k> oh nice, didn't notice until now that my disk eject's optionality actually worked xD didn't break on the one that didn't have one
L2836[22:20:26] <TYKUHN2> Lua stack trace is unwinding
L2837[22:20:58] <TYKUHN2> DeeJayh that looks suspiciously like a bug
L2838[22:21:18] <TYKUHN2> Try running it multi-lined?
L2839[22:21:35] <DeeJayh> one sec, no i havent, but I gladly will
L2840[22:22:58] <DeeJayh> multiline for a .lua worked as intended
L2841[22:23:10] <TYKUHN2> Huh
L2842[22:23:15] <DeeJayh> called print(m.isWireless()) and got "false" as the result
L2843[22:23:20] <DeeJayh> it's a regular network card
L2844[22:23:25] <DeeJayh> so that's the correct return
L2845[22:23:36] <TYKUHN2> Lua is supposed to work with semicolons IIRC
L2846[22:23:36] <DeeJayh> oh my god
L2847[22:23:40] <DeeJayh> im a moron
L2848[22:23:47] <DeeJayh> I dont even want to tell you
L2849[22:23:58] <TYKUHN2> Heh
L2850[22:24:04] <DeeJayh> I was typing it line by line, instead of one line with semicolons into the interpreter...
L2851[22:24:15] <DeeJayh> so used to interpreters like python or ruby
L2852[22:24:21] <DeeJayh> where it remembers variables
L2853[22:24:22] <TYKUHN2> Err?
L2854[22:24:26] <TYKUHN2> Oh yeah
L2855[22:24:34] <TYKUHN2> Lua interpreter remembers variables
L2856[22:24:43] <TYKUHN2> But local variables are tossed out after a line.
L2857[22:24:50] <DeeJayh> right
L2858[22:24:55] <DeeJayh> had no idea lua worked that way
L2859[22:24:58] <TYKUHN2> It's due to the way load() works.
L2860[22:25:08] <DeeJayh> let me try a true one liner with semicolons and get back to you
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L2862[22:25:16] <TYKUHN2> Basically load() creates a new environment each time.
L2863[22:25:31] <TYKUHN2> Lua should work with and without semicolons.
L2864[22:25:47] <DeeJayh> yup, it worked with anyways
L2865[22:25:59] <DeeJayh> so it's just me not understanding how the lua interpreter worked
L2866[22:26:02] <TYKUHN2> It's nice about convention
L2867[22:26:03] <DeeJayh> aka LUA Newb
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L2869[22:26:16] <TYKUHN2> In OpenOS the need for local variables is rare
L2870[22:26:21] <Izaya> oh.
L2871[22:26:26] <Izaya> that's why that didn't work
L2872[22:26:34] <TYKUHN2> Since every program runs it's own sandboxed environment (hence the need for require)
L2873[22:26:42] <Izaya> huh.
L2874[22:27:35] <TYKUHN2> That stacktrace looked suspiciously buggy. I guess not.
L2875[22:28:07] <Izaya> so as it turns out
L2876[22:28:24] <Izaya> you now need more than 64k to build MultICE
L2877[22:28:39] <Izaya> well
L2878[22:28:41] <Izaya> hm
L2879[22:28:43] <Izaya> maybe you do
L2880[22:28:45] * Izaya isn't really sure
L2881[22:28:55] <DeeJayh> make it smaller...
L2882[22:29:00] <DeeJayh> optimize some code
L2883[22:29:09] <Izaya> this is the unoptomised stuff
L2884[22:29:10] <Izaya> all the modules
L2885[22:29:30] <DeeJayh> are they modules you're just using or modules you wrote?
L2886[22:29:43] <Izaya> all the ones you can use
L2887[22:30:03] <DeeJayh> ... doesn't really answer me, but if they're "borrowed" re-write them
L2888[22:30:12] <Izaya> they are not
L2889[22:30:12] <DeeJayh> if they're yours, you should be optimizing them anyways
L2890[22:30:29] <DeeJayh> like how the hell are you using more that 64k
L2891[22:30:37] <DeeJayh> that's my big question
L2892[22:30:40] <Izaya> see
L2893[22:30:46] <Izaya> I have a lot of optional stuff
L2894[22:31:10] <Izaya> generally a built system will only have 10k of it
L2895[22:31:22] <Izaya> but the build system plus all the modules is about 50k packed
L2896[22:31:28] <DeeJayh> Frankly you should be making it fit into 4KB
L2897[22:31:33] <DeeJayh> then you can store it on an eeprom
L2898[22:31:37] <Izaya> I can.
L2899[22:31:39] <DeeJayh> and do away with hard drives
L2900[22:31:41] <Izaya> These are the build files.
L2901[22:31:44] <DeeJayh> because who needs storage
L2902[22:31:45] <Izaya> For building it.
L2903[22:31:52] <DeeJayh> ohhh ok
L2904[22:31:55] <Izaya> ._.
L2905[22:32:09] <DeeJayh> well just build it and then compile it and copy it to a disc, seems legit
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L2907[22:32:53] <DeeJayh> I hate that the little wiki thing whatever doesn't tell you size and neither does the tooltip
L2908[22:33:02] <DeeJayh> like whats the max on a floppy disk?
L2909[22:33:09] <DeeJayh> RL standard?
L2910[22:33:19] <Izaya> floppies are 512k by default
L2911[22:33:22] <Izaya> but it's configurable
L2912[22:34:47] <DeeJayh> floppies were 2MB...
L2913[22:34:53] <DeeJayh> getting robbed lol
L2914[22:34:57] <Izaya> yeah well T1 HDDs are 1MB
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L2916[22:35:05] <DeeJayh> true, good point
L2917[22:35:09] <Izaya> at that point floppies were 360k
L2918[22:35:11] <Izaya> be happy
L2919[22:35:30] <DeeJayh> but then again, 360k is a lot
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L2921[22:35:46] <Izaya> I'd love to do some realistic size changes
L2922[22:36:15] <DeeJayh> agreed, but to be fair, it's probably to save the server
L2923[22:36:26] <Izaya> floppies to like 360k so you can't install OpenOS on them, HDDs to maybe 10MB...
L2924[22:37:28] <Izaya> 41k for the build files
L2925[22:37:32] <Izaya> like, the contents of the files
L2926[22:38:05] <Izaya> due to reasons that gets inflated to about 64k on-filesystem
L2927[22:39:07] <BloodyRain2k> without compression you already can't install OpenOS on them
L2928[22:39:07] <DeeJayh> all those storage devices take up real space, imagine if a server allowed 100 mb drives and someone just started crafting drive after drive after drive
L2929[22:39:15] <BloodyRain2k> it's 800kb or something
L2930[22:39:20] <Izaya> yeah that would be bad
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L2932[22:39:34] <Izaya> BloodyRain2k: I must be running an old build of OpenOS, it takes 90% of 512k
L2933[22:39:46] <BloodyRain2k> latest there is for 1.7.10 <_<
L2934[22:41:18] <BloodyRain2k> but yeah, it's 800kb on my physical drive, 360kb file size, still did not fit onto a floppy when I tried to just copy it over
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L2936[22:41:46] <DeeJayh> does anyone know what the "latest" forge/bukkit combo is? I used to use mcpc and I guess that's gone, also dabbled with cauldron but apparently theres also BukkitForge, KCauldron etc
L2937[22:41:53] <DeeJayh> lemme get some opinions
L2938[22:41:53] <BloodyRain2k> I got halfway and the thing was at the limit, I was wondering why cp didn't add any more things onto the floppy because it also didn't threw an error
L2939[22:42:56] <BloodyRain2k> oh ffs
L2940[22:43:11] <BloodyRain2k> I tried to make the program run without a screen and instead waited until the screen was connected
L2941[22:43:24] <DeeJayh> get shredded
L2942[22:43:51] <Izaya> I do love the incredibly descriptive init errors
L2943[22:44:10] <Izaya> init:19: attempt to index a nil value
L2944[22:44:16] <Izaya> I don't get a stack trace, apparently
L2945[22:44:26] <BloodyRain2k> seems like I do need to modifiy init too
L2946[22:44:32] <BloodyRain2k> just .shrc doesn't cut it
L2947[22:45:33] <TYKUHN2> Uhm
L2948[22:45:44] <TYKUHN2> VLC really hates dates. I can't figure out how to add it
L2949[22:46:21] <BloodyRain2k> ah fuck it, not worth the hassle
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L2951[22:47:11] <BloodyRain2k> I can atleast leave the keyboard out until it errors
L2952[22:47:25] <DeeJayh> The latest VLC is total trash
L2953[22:47:30] <DeeJayh> transcoding is broken
L2954[22:47:33] <DeeJayh> streaming is broken
L2955[22:47:43] <DeeJayh> just use and old 2. version
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L2957[22:47:49] <BloodyRain2k> I really need to find out if I can bribe Michi with some cookied to add OpenLaptos xD
L2958[22:48:00] <BloodyRain2k> *Laptops even
L2959[22:48:12] <Izaya> tablets
L2960[22:48:13] <BloodyRain2k> but for now I'll play with the sensor and gather the RC tank data
L2961[22:48:22] <BloodyRain2k> tablets can't connect to adapters
L2962[22:48:29] <Izaya> ...true
L2963[22:48:36] * Izaya wants AIO desktops personally
L2964[22:48:39] <DeeJayh> why can't tablets connect to adapters?
L2965[22:48:45] <BloodyRain2k> the whole point for me with the laptops would be being able to plonk down one block that connects to the adapter
L2966[22:49:00] <DeeJayh> add a micro to the adapter and set it up for wireless comms
L2967[22:49:11] <DeeJayh> then communicate from the tablet
L2968[22:49:24] <BloodyRain2k> if I'd know how to do that I might even try :P
L2969[22:49:38] <BloodyRain2k> so you mean a linked card pair? or what?
L2970[22:49:42] <DeeJayh> honestly, if it sounds intimidating, it is
L2971[22:49:47] <BloodyRain2k> oh no, micro, gotcha
L2972[22:49:49] <DeeJayh> you'd be better off building a full computer
L2973[22:49:54] <DeeJayh> one case, one screen
L2974[22:49:58] <DeeJayh> just to get it setup
L2975[22:50:20] <DeeJayh> then power on straight into a script to send and receive commands over wireless and detach the screen
L2976[22:50:22] <BloodyRain2k> except the case explodes into it's components when taken down
L2977[22:50:40] <BloodyRain2k> which is why I'm using a rack and server board
L2978[22:50:56] <BloodyRain2k> less clutter to carry, still needs the screen though or it won't boot fully
L2979[22:52:45] <TYKUHN2> AHA
L2980[22:52:50] <TYKUHN2> FINALLY CAUGHT THAT PROXY VIRUS
L2981[22:52:59] <TYKUHN2> DIE STUPID THING
L2982[22:53:06] <BloodyRain2k> lol
L2983[22:53:45] <TYKUHN2> IT'S THE WORST THING
L2984[22:53:53] <DeeJayh> ?
L2985[22:53:56] <TYKUHN2> Tries to fuck up your proxy settings. Fails utterly though
L2986[22:54:10] <DeeJayh> There's so many, that's a pretty ambiguous statement
L2987[22:54:51] <TYKUHN2> PUP.Optional.ProxyGate
L2988[22:54:58] <DeeJayh> is there any way to directly access the information on an eeprom? or is it pretty much flash only, and the magic happens on power up
L2989[22:55:07] <TYKUHN2> PxySrvRST
L2990[22:55:10] <Izaya> component.eeprom.get()
L2991[22:55:17] <DeeJayh> intriguing
L2992[22:55:24] <DeeJayh> I need to look at the api before I ask questions
L2993[22:55:25] <DeeJayh> ty
L2994[22:55:48] <TYKUHN2> component.eeprom.getData?
L2995[22:55:59] <Izaya> getData is for the data section
L2996[22:56:45] <DeeJayh> epic
L2997[22:56:50] <TYKUHN2> Which OpenOS/bios.lua uses for some sort of better booting
L2998[22:56:51] <DeeJayh> that's all entirely relevent
L2999[22:56:54] <DeeJayh> you guys rock as usual
L3000[22:57:16] <Izaya> the Lua BIOS uses the data section to store the last boot address
L3001[22:57:33] <Izaya> boot priority of sorts
L3002[22:57:45] <Izaya> I imagine you could pretty easily give it a list instead
L3003[22:59:37] <Izaya> MultICE can use it to store more code
L3004[22:59:47] <Izaya> or generally user configuration data
L3005[22:59:53] <gamax92> ~w eeprom
L3006[22:59:53] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:eeprom
L3007[23:01:40] <Izaya> ._.
L3008[23:01:43] <Izaya> well at least that works
L3009[23:01:50] <Izaya> only config file I could make work properly was headless.cfg
L3010[23:02:47] <DeeJayh> trying to think how to steal the contents of the eeprom to upload to pastbin, since only so much of the code fits on the screen in game
L3011[23:03:04] <DeeJayh> unless the lua interpreter has some scroll up feature I wasn't aware of
L3012[23:03:23] <TYKUHN2> shell.execute("pastebin", "put", component.eeprom.get())?
L3013[23:03:25] <Izaya> flash -r
L3014[23:03:33] <TYKUHN2> ^ That too
L3015[23:03:37] <Izaya> save the current contents of installed eeprom to file
L3016[23:04:05] <DeeJayh> ahh, very nice on both accounts, Izaya for ease of use, TYKUHN2 for logic, very very nice
L3017[23:09:29] <gamax92> I don't think TYKUHN2's command even works
L3018[23:10:07] <DeeJayh> so literally the whole purpose of this 61 lines of bios code is to find the init.lua and fire it up
L3019[23:10:32] <TYKUHN2> It was more proof of concept ?
L3020[23:11:14] <DeeJayh> Even if it doesn't work, the logic of it was more what I was interested in
L3021[23:11:39] <TYKUHN2> It's midnight ?
L3022[23:11:43] <DeeJayh> I wasn't aware of shell.execute, I'd have done some intriguing long winded file io type shit that was 30 lines long
L3023[23:11:47] <TYKUHN2> WHY MUST I SUCCUMB TO SLEEP
L3024[23:11:58] <gamax92> oh well, perhaps you should just ask :P
L3025[23:12:00] <DeeJayh> I dont sleep
L3026[23:12:17] <DeeJayh> 10 years ago I decided to just stay up and after a couple days I was just never tired again
L3027[23:12:30] <gamax92> DeeJayh: btw TYKUHN2 also used shell.execute wrong
L3028[23:12:32] <DeeJayh> I haven't slept since 2007
L3029[23:12:48] <gamax92> ~w shell
L3030[23:12:48] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/api:shell
L3031[23:12:49] <TYKUHN2> shell.execute("pastebin put " .. component.eeprom.get())
L3032[23:12:53] <gamax92> still wrong
L3033[23:12:55] <DeeJayh> gamax92, right, I could've worked out the bugs, but the convept was nice
L3034[23:13:15] <TYKUHN2> Arg env is required?
L3035[23:13:21] <TYKUHN2> argh*
L3036[23:13:52] <gamax92> pastebin put takes a filename
L3037[23:14:03] <gamax92> you're giving it contents of the eeprom
L3038[23:14:57] <DeeJayh> so my concept was the best way? or is there some two-liner that would work to turn the contents into a file and then submit that result
L3039[23:15:36] <TYKUHN2> I give up
L3040[23:15:53] <DeeJayh> well it makes sense
L3041[23:15:59] <TYKUHN2> HEHE
L3042[23:16:08] <DeeJayh> because the pastbin looks for a file and then reads the contents of it line by line to send to pastbin
L3043[23:16:10] <TYKUHN2> Some unknown microsoft files run on startup TOTALLY NOT A VIRUS
L3044[23:16:59] <DeeJayh> so unless the pastebin program itself was changed to accept a file to read or the contents directly, the only way would be to put whatever you want into a file before you send it
L3045[23:17:31] <ade124> Hmm... Random question: Would using a BSD as a daily driver be viable
L3046[23:17:35] <TYKUHN2> Looks like I'll have to run a deeper scan
L3047[23:17:57] <DeeJayh> just reformat and reinstall
L3048[23:18:41] <BloodyRain2k> just burn it and buy a new one
L3049[23:18:52] <DeeJayh> now you're just being ridiculous
L3050[23:18:53] <BloodyRain2k> KILL IT WITH FIRE!!!
L3051[23:18:57] <BloodyRain2k> no
L3052[23:18:58] <ade124> Install gentoo on it
L3053[23:19:01] <DeeJayh> EW
L3054[23:19:03] <BloodyRain2k> I'm just getting started :D
L3055[23:19:09] * DeeJayh gets nauseous
L3056[23:19:13] <DeeJayh> Gentoo...
L3057[23:19:16] * ade124 starts the install gentoo music
L3058[23:19:26] <BloodyRain2k> install mac os
L3059[23:19:37] <DeeJayh> ubuntu or bust, whos got time for play by plays like archlinux or gentoo
L3060[23:20:09] <ade124> Antergos
L3061[23:20:12] <ade124> Lazy Arch
L3062[23:20:29] <DeeJayh> still, yuck
L3063[23:20:32] <TYKUHN2> Manually auditing a bunch of stuff and finding a host of bad things
L3064[23:20:46] <DeeJayh> Reformat man...
L3065[23:20:52] <DeeJayh> Save yourself the headache
L3066[23:20:57] <DeeJayh> you obviously messed up bad
L3067[23:21:08] <ade124> Inb4 it's wannacry
L3068[23:21:13] <DeeJayh> lol
L3069[23:21:18] <BloodyRain2k> wattawho?
L3070[23:21:24] <DeeJayh> I dont think he'd be auditing shit if it was
L3071[23:21:29] <DeeJayh> it's crypto
L3072[23:21:33] <DeeJayh> encrypts all your files
L3073[23:21:37] <BloodyRain2k> ah
L3074[23:21:39] <DeeJayh> it's the lastest thing
L3075[23:21:49] <gamax92> Manjaro
L3076[23:21:52] <ade124> Was there a version of wannacry without a kill switch
L3077[23:21:53] <DeeJayh> most of it didn't even have like a way to fix it where you pay up
L3078[23:21:56] <DeeJayh> yup
L3079[23:22:01] <ade124> I prefer antergos over manjaro
L3080[23:22:13] <DeeJayh> it just encrypted your files and threw away the key
L3081[23:22:25] <TYKUHN2> It's definetely not WannaCry
L3082[23:22:34] <ade124> Did the people try the decrypt button
L3083[23:22:49] <DeeJayh> They did, it then spread the encryption through the mouse
L3084[23:23:01] <ade124> So... There is 2 versions of wannacry with 2 different kill switches and one without amy?
L3085[23:23:07] <DeeJayh> causing signals to the nerves in the hand to become encrypted before reaching the nerve endings
L3086[23:23:16] <DeeJayh> permanent hand paralysis
L3087[23:23:23] <DeeJayh> with no way to decrypt the signals
L3088[23:23:39] <BloodyRain2k> 9 biomes measured, over 100 to go...
L3089[23:23:47] <BloodyRain2k> well probably not, but a few dozen surely
L3090[23:23:48] <ade124> ?
L3091[23:24:27] <BloodyRain2k> got my railcraft water tank measuring program done and thanks to Michi can it automatically save the result to the biome's name so I'm running around taking measures
L3092[23:24:41] <ade124> I still with railcraft 1.11 was a thing
L3093[23:24:53] <ade124> Should I just throw 1.11 away and use 1.10 instead
L3094[23:25:30] <Keridos> Can a capability based component also work on 1.10.2?
L3095[23:25:54] <DeeJayh> anything inside the same version will generally work
L3096[23:25:56] <ade124> I'm kind of fond of chains of objects moving on a rail
L3097[23:25:57] <DeeJayh> same minor*
L3098[23:26:11] <DeeJayh> only one way to find out
L3099[23:26:15] <Keridos> well its 1.11.2 vs 1.10.2
L3100[23:26:24] <Keridos> and I mean java side, not ingame
L3101[23:26:24] <DeeJayh> in case anyone wants a copy of the BIOS on the eeprom https://pastebin.com/yr7k4rwL
L3102[23:26:40] <DeeJayh> yea, that's a different minor version
L3103[23:26:44] <DeeJayh> probably wont work
L3104[23:26:45] <ade124> (If I expressed that I am fond of trains in a certain wording I will get killed)
L3105[23:27:02] <Keridos> you like trains?
L3106[23:27:08] <Keridos> well, i like trains
L3107[23:27:12] <DeeJayh> uhh
L3108[23:27:13] <DeeJayh> what
L3109[23:27:23] <ade124> Everyone here is now dead
L3110[23:27:27] <TYKUHN2> sysde32.exe is running some RPC shit
L3111[23:27:50] <DeeJayh> JUST REFORMAT
L3112[23:27:54] <DeeJayh> FOR THE LOVE OF GOD
L3113[23:27:57] <Keridos> yeah seems as if I need to move my OC based code into a proxy class on my compat lib
L3114[23:27:58] <Keridos> -.-
L3115[23:28:05] <Keridos> i am not fond of that
L3116[23:28:13] <TYKUHN2> Reformatting takes a little longer than I'd prefer
L3117[23:28:42] <DeeJayh> Longer than auditing your entire drive because you can't stop clicking ever tranie porn banner ad you see?
L3118[23:28:50] <DeeJayh> every even
L3119[23:29:00] <ade124> I'm just going to install 1.10.2 and lovely railcraft instead
L3120[23:29:12] <Keridos> reformat all the drives @TYKUHN2
L3121[23:29:17] <DeeJayh> ^
L3122[23:29:20] <Keridos> seriously, if you have a virus, just nuke your pc
L3123[23:29:23] <BloodyRain2k> reformat reality!
L3124[23:29:27] <ade124> Plus like 50% of mods on 1.10 are compatible with 1.11, but I want the other 50%
L3125[23:29:44] <Keridos> well OpenModularTurrets is compatible with both
L3126[23:29:48] <DeeJayh> Well I want thaumcraft on my 1.10, but you can't always get what you want
L3127[23:29:51] <DeeJayh> BUT IF YOU TRY SOMETIMES
L3128[23:29:56] <DeeJayh> YOU GET WHAT YOU NEED
L3129[23:29:58] <Keridos> unfortunately the class transformer from OC is broken on 1.11.2
L3130[23:30:08] <Keridos> which made OMT hard crash the server on world load
L3131[23:30:27] <Keridos> because it stripped all of the functions and then tried to execute them
L3132[23:31:03] <Keridos> So I was told that I could do it with capabilities, problem is, the entire OMT code runs at both 1.10.2 and 1.11.2
L3133[23:31:17] <Keridos> So I just asked if the same code would work for both versions
L3134[23:31:40] <ade124> I saw a shit storm when BC decided to skip 1.10
L3135[23:32:02] <TYKUHN2> I decided to skip anything after 1.8.10
L3136[23:32:03] <ade124> BC 1.11 doesn't have RF pipes currently, that's not annoying at all
L3137[23:32:17] <TYKUHN2> Or was it 1.8
L3138[23:32:22] <Keridos> i do not even see the reason behind that except you might need another library
L3139[23:32:25] <TYKUHN2> It was probably 1.7.10b
L3140[23:32:39] <Keridos> I just asked mcjty for permission to use compat layer code in my own library
L3141[23:32:52] <Keridos> so the library for OMT now has the mc specific code
L3142[23:33:05] <Keridos> and OMT just uses the necessary proxy functions
L3143[23:33:21] <ade124> Alright I'm now officially using 1.10 instead of 1.11, going to reinstall everything when I get home
L3144[23:33:51] <ade124> I still wish cauldron didn't die with 1.7.10 (The whole DMCA mess)
L3145[23:33:52] <Keridos> problem was that RF cables are actually quite a bit more complex than just let energy in and out
L3146[23:33:53] <TYKUHN2> Holy shit. 1.33GB of "temporary" log files
L3147[23:34:11] <Keridos> if you want to do it properly, you need a whole dedicated tickhandler for networks
L3148[23:34:32] <Keridos> that is far better for performance in bigger setups but a lot harder to properly set up
L3149[23:35:07] <Keridos> I asked the enderio devs if they did it that way and they confirmed enderio conduits work like that
L3150[23:35:17] <ade124> Should I just go back to 1.7.10 honestly
L3151[23:35:44] <BloodyRain2k> depends on what mods you want to use
L3152[23:35:56] <BloodyRain2k> I'm at 1.7.10 because half of what I used died after
L3153[23:35:59] <ade124> Not sure
L3154[23:36:12] <TYKUHN2> Going to boot into safemode and run Malware Bytes again
L3155[23:36:14] <BloodyRain2k> and I can't be bothered now to find replacements as I already had to because last I played was 1.4.6/7
L3156[23:36:16] <TYKUHN2> Tomorrow
L3157[23:36:16] <ade124> *insert complaint about the DMCA drama*
L3158[23:36:33] <BloodyRain2k> *insert complaint about notch being a fuckbag for not adding a proper api*
L3159[23:36:37] <TYKUHN2> Today I did some manual cleanup from what behavior I saw from what files I ran inside Sandboxie
L3160[23:38:58] <ade124> I kind of want to use BC... Guess I'll have to give BC up if I wanted to use 1.10.2
L3161[23:39:10] <ade124> Any alternatives?
L3162[23:39:26] <BloodyRain2k> weird, Meadow has 17.5 / sec but Meadow Forest only 7.5 / sec, are forests that much dryer? never felt like that to me
L3163[23:42:56] ⇨ Joins: Kodos (~Kodos@2602:306:ce20:6c30:c5f7:fb09:4a08:8ddd)
L3164[23:42:57] zsh sets mode: +v on Kodos
L3165[23:43:12] <ade124> I kind of like BC's quarry and some way to generate RF power, any alternatives for 1.10.2 since they're skipping that version
L3166[23:45:07] <BloodyRain2k> heh, just had a funny idea for an entity: an OC cart, a case in a cart that can run stuff while being driven around by a train xD
L3167[23:45:28] <ade124> I could just use IC2's power and use some energy converter mod
L3168[23:45:37] <ade124> Also an OC cart sounds fun
L3169[23:45:49] <BloodyRain2k> forestry has an electric engine that runs on IC2 power
L3170[23:46:00] <ade124> Self-driving trains
L3171[23:46:11] <BloodyRain2k> and railcraft has steam generators
L3172[23:46:18] <BloodyRain2k> which means RF from steam
L3173[23:46:47] <ade124> So... Any quarry alternatives
L3174[23:47:26] <BloodyRain2k> OC robots?
L3175[23:47:32] <ade124> Could do...
L3176[23:48:01] <ade124> ComputerCraftEdu turtles for maximum masochism
L3177[23:48:51] <ade124> I wonder how well would an OCEdu mod do
L3178[23:50:43] <BloodyRain2k> screw turtles
L3179[23:50:58] <BloodyRain2k> oc robots are atleast somewhat cute : /
L3180[23:51:07] <BloodyRain2k> even though they're technically the same thing
L3181[23:51:25] <Kodos> Anyone play Starbound?
L3182[23:51:36] <BloodyRain2k> and piss me off when they only have 2 chests because one's in the back and one's on the left x.x someone think of the OCDs
L3183[23:51:41] <BloodyRain2k> yeah I do
L3184[23:51:50] <BloodyRain2k> well, currently I'm taking a break because MC xD
L3185[23:51:50] <ade124> CCEdu turtles are normal turtles plus a remote and a visual programming language
L3186[23:51:59] * ade124 dies a little bit inside
L3187[23:52:59] <DeeJayh> why do you supposed data is stored and read in bytes in the eeprom?
L3188[23:53:16] <DeeJayh> why not bits
L3189[23:53:26] <BloodyRain2k> why not bees?
L3190[23:53:37] * DeeJayh holds the door open
L3191[23:53:48] <DeeJayh> I'll let you show yourself out
L3192[23:53:52] * BloodyRain2k equips the bees
L3193[23:54:13] <BloodyRain2k> %inv add a bunch of Bees
L3194[23:54:18] * MichiBot summons 'a bunch of Bees' and adds to her inventory. This seems very sturdy.
L3195[23:54:37] <BloodyRain2k> I kinda wonder how it's only hundred something items so far xD this is fun
L3196[23:56:22] <ade124> %inv add Two MichiBots
L3197[23:56:26] * MichiBot I can't put myself in my inventory silly.
L3198[23:56:29] <ade124> Oh
L3199[23:58:53] <ade124> %inv add Corded
L3200[23:58:57] * MichiBot summons 'Corded' and adds to her inventory. This seems very sturdy.
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