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L1[00:01:03] <Antheus> My current one is from the $300 bargin bin at wallmart that struggles to run itself and freezes if any program is open
L2[00:01:30] <Antheus> crappy low end dell
L3[00:01:34] <Antheus> extremely low end
L4[00:02:05] <Antheus> It may have been closer to $250
L5[00:03:10] <Antheus> and I think something is messed up with the hard drive
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L7[00:28:12] <Izaya> Antheus: all laptops made in the last 5 or so years suck
L8[00:28:27] <Izaya> apparently with the exception with select ThinkPad, ProBook and XPS models
L9[00:28:36] <Izaya> but I haven't tried them
L10[00:30:05] <Antheus> I have plenty of time to research and all that since I don't move in for college until Aug. 20 something
L11[00:30:39] <Izaya> My personal but not professional advice would be look for used XPSes a model or two old
L12[00:30:59] <Izaya> They'll be (relatively) cheap, have a decent chasis and be decently powerful
L13[00:31:26] * Izaya is happy with a T420 but it's not great for gaming
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L16[01:06:34] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCCDXiqQF7o ~
L17[01:06:35] <MichiBot> 笑顔のゲンキ - Egao no genki - | length: 4m 35s | Likes: 330 Dislikes: 7 Views: 313,395 | by 8ran | Published On 3/9/2009
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L21[02:35:41] <gamax92> "why aren't they making any figures of my waifu" "They already make trash cans."
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L23[02:46:03] <Inari> ITALIAN MUSIC *quack* *quack* *quack*
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L25[03:12:32] <MalkContent> what does a redstone cards wake threshold do?
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L27[03:14:09] <MalkContent> pull the os out of sleep and/or start the computer
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L30[03:58:10] <Inari> MalkContent: Congrats, yuo answered your own question
L31[04:01:08] <Inari> Sangar: Fancy mod effect :P
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L34[04:05:14] <MalkContent> was a question actually
L35[04:05:18] <MalkContent> so it does both things?
L36[04:05:59] <Inari> starts the computer
L37[04:08:45] <MalkContent> okay. thanks :)
L38[04:10:18] <Inari> https://twitter.com/NightCoreAmvCha/status/856846690589917185 this... is just weird
L39[04:10:19] <MichiBot> Tue Apr 25 07:25:45 CDT 2017 @NightCoreAmvCha: これまじで好きｗｗｗｗめっちゃ再生してる
L40[04:12:28] <Inari> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-us2IDXUAACOvT.jpg:large cute
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L42[04:47:17] <Cruor> Inari: yea.. that was pretty weird .-.
L43[04:47:41] * Inari sprays Cruor with mint tea
L44[04:47:52] <Cruor> .. i have mint tea D:
L45[04:48:08] <Cruor> its just been sitting around for like 12h
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L69[05:31:55] <Inari> I should get peppermint tea agian
L70[05:32:58] <Vexatos> got peppermint growing in our garden
L71[05:41:30] * Lizzy stabs this stupid usb wifi card
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L73[06:16:26] * Saphire stabs wifi
L74[06:25:53] <Inari> %stab Saphire
L75[06:25:57] * MichiBot hits Saphire with a toothbrush doing [10] damage
L76[06:26:29] <AshIndigo> %stab Inari
L77[06:26:33] * MichiBot hits Inari with a deflated beay doing [12] damage
L78[06:28:59] <Saphire> %inv create dragon plush toy
L79[06:29:02] * MichiBot summons 'dragon plush toy' and adds to her inventory. This seems very sturdy.
L80[06:34:34] <AshIndigo> %inv add slow updates
L81[06:34:34] * MichiBot summons 'slow updates' and adds to her inventory. This seems very sturdy.
L82[06:35:24] <Cruor> %stab Cruor
L83[06:35:27] * MichiBot shivs Cruor with a simplified version of the LM386 doing [11] damage
L84[06:36:02] <Cruor> interesting :I
L85[06:40:33] <Mettaton_Fab> i want a LM386 with changeable parts
L86[06:41:29] <Inari> http://belarr.com/bakercat/
L87[06:42:11] <AshIndigo> %pet Baker cat
L88[06:42:13] * MichiBot pets Baker cat with Idun's Apple. Baker cat recovers 7 health!
L89[06:42:40] <Inari> good music though
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L93[07:01:17] <Inari> https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/6c/db/22/6cdb221152ee7588406024b1d25282ec.jpg Want~
L94[07:03:58] <Inari> I need to find some lolita fashion feeds or such to follow
L95[07:04:10] <Inari> Specifically ones about the subtypes I like
L96[07:07:42] <Mettaton_Fab> why so much loli
L97[07:07:55] <Inari> Because I like it :P
L98[07:08:16] <Inari> %inv add cocoa
L99[07:08:20] * MichiBot summons 'cocoa' and adds to her inventory. This seems very sturdy.
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L102[07:13:27] <Mettaton_Fab> Inari: Maybe you are a loli?
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L105[07:26:32] <Cruor> Jail
L106[07:26:57] <AshIndigo> Pali
L107[07:30:56] <Cruor> Inari: buy it then? D:
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L109[07:38:43] <vifino> wee woo wee woo
L110[07:38:51] <Lizzy> :O
L111[07:38:58] * Lizzy snuggles vifino
L112[07:39:10] <Inari> Cruor: Not that easy
L113[07:39:50] <Cruor> Inari: :I just throw enough money at it
L114[07:40:33] * Lizzy offers vifino some bacon
L115[07:40:55] <Inari> Cruor: Do I look rich?
L116[07:40:56] <vifino> /me snuggles Lizzy and noms
L117[07:41:03] <vifino> almost worked
L118[07:41:07] <Lizzy> :P
L119[07:41:08] * Cruor throws monnies at Inari :I
L120[07:44:42] * Inari eats it
L121[07:46:10] <Cruor> ooi
L122[07:46:41] <Cruor> its like, way to nice weather to be inside
L123[07:46:45] <Cruor> but way to hot to be outside
L124[07:46:47] <Cruor> wtf do
L125[07:47:08] <Inari> Watch anime
L126[07:47:16] <Cruor> math test tommorow D:
L127[07:47:18] <Vexatos> Cruor, that is so true
L128[07:52:46] <AshIndigo> :D
L129[07:52:51] <Inari> It's true that there is a math test tomorrow?
L130[07:53:00] * AshIndigo does a little dance of happiness
L131[07:53:04] <Cruor> Inari: yas
L132[07:53:20] <Cruor> need to graduate kindergarten
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L134[08:01:37] zsh sets mode: +v on Kilobyte
L135[08:03:48] <Kilobyte> yay netsplits
L136[08:04:19] <Mimiru> yep ._.
L137[08:08:42] <AmandaC> %choose tv or laptop
L138[08:08:46] <MichiBot> AmandaC: tv
L139[08:11:22] <Kilobyte> the other end of the netsplit (consisting exclusively of portlane) still has like 20 people in this channel
L140[08:12:08] <Mimiru> Yep, I was there too... it'd be nice if they'd connect it, or kill it, lol
L141[08:14:09] <Cruor> Vexatos: how am i supposed to do mathz on this nuked table?
L142[08:14:59] <Kilobyte> btw, is that intentional that there are two empty bullet points in the channel rules post (towards the end)
L143[08:15:38] <Lizzy> probably not
L144[08:16:01] <Kilobyte> thought so :D
L145[08:16:07] <Lizzy> hmm, looks like the upgrade that happened a while back broke them
L146[08:17:46] <Lizzy> there, fixed
L147[08:21:58] <Mimiru> I think I'm going to call in dead today
L148[08:24:14] <20kdc> you seem rather living
L149[08:24:18] * Lizzy thinks she may have figured out one of the possible reasons why her home server kills the router when its connected via wire to it, but she has no idea why it happens
L150[08:24:28] <Izaya> ... were there tests in kindergarten?
L151[08:25:29] <Cruor> Izaya: ... uhhh... probably
L152[08:25:44] <Izaya> somehow I can't remember
L153[08:28:41] <AmandaC> Izaya: doubtful
L154[08:29:39] <Cruor> PANIC
L155[08:29:43] <Cruor> i was supposed to wash clothes
L156[08:29:50] <Cruor> UHHHHHHHHHH
L157[08:30:01] <Inari> Fail
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L161[08:32:42] <MalkContent> do robots not resume their program when you quit and reload the world?
L162[08:32:53] <MalkContent> it looks on, but it doesn't seem to do anything...
L163[08:32:57] <Kilobyte> that looks like i finally configured sasl correctly :D
L164[08:33:53] <Cruor> Inari: remind me to do questionable things to it at 1700
L165[08:34:05] <Inari> What
L166[08:34:32] <AmandaC> Cruor: stop fucking your stuffed animals.
L167[08:34:41] <AmandaC> That's not what they're for. :<
L168[08:35:04] <Inari> eEw
L169[08:35:06] <Cruor> it wasnt a stuffed animal, it was a rubber du... never mind that
L170[08:35:13] <MalkContent> yea... this thing does not resume :/
L171[08:35:22] <Lizzy> that's a bug
L172[08:36:18] <MalkContent> dammit
L173[08:37:02] <Inari> Milkit
L174[08:37:03] * MalkContent commences poking the issue with a stick
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L176[08:39:39] <AmandaC> Inari: L-lewd.
L177[08:39:50] <Inari> ;3
L178[08:40:33] <AmandaC> I should setup a nuclear plant
L179[08:40:46] <Inari> Got kovarex running? :P
L180[08:40:54] <AmandaC> but that means getting a whole new production pipeline
L181[08:40:57] <AmandaC> which is... bleh
L182[08:41:32] <MalkContent> oh... okay this dummy program still works
L183[08:41:38] <MalkContent> but the screen isn't getting updated
L184[08:41:53] <AmandaC> screens seem kinda fucky for robots and servers, ime
L185[08:41:53] <MalkContent> dummy-dig-then-place-then-dig-etc program
L186[08:43:10] <MalkContent> managed to halt the program with ctrl+c
L187[08:43:22] <MalkContent> but can't type any blind commands
L188[08:47:34] <MalkContent> shame. thought it was related to https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/2151#issuecomment-279278260
L189[08:49:24] <Cruor> wooooop, time to act like i know what a vector is
L190[08:49:26] <Cruor> great fun
L191[08:50:12] <MalkContent> aaands its a known bug. yay ^^
L192[08:50:26] <MalkContent> hey Cruor. what's a vector?
L193[08:50:38] <Cruor> its a thingy ma bob with direction :I
L194[08:51:05] <AshIndigo> its this!
L195[08:51:10] * AshIndigo holds up a vector
L196[08:51:25] <MalkContent> https://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/villains/images/5/5e/Vector-_Despicable_Me.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20110326201711
L197[08:52:07] <Cruor> how to make space on table: push keyboard slowly backwards, close eyes and ears while stuff crash onto the floor
L198[08:52:14] <Cruor> works all the time
L199[08:52:19] <AshIndigo> dont do it slowly
L200[08:52:27] <AshIndigo> just smash all off at once
L201[08:53:16] <MalkContent> also: that's already a special vector
L202[08:53:30] <Cruor> https://github.com/dan200/ComputerCraft ITS HAPPENING
L203[08:53:48] <AshIndigo> dun dun dun!
L204[08:54:20] <Corded> * <20kdc> checks if hell has frozen over.
L205[08:54:40] <20kdc> Huh. I didn't even know that stuff could freeze.
L206[08:55:16] <Cruor> Inari: hook me up with some nice choons
L207[08:55:19] <Cruor> its math time :I
L208[08:57:38] <Cruor> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41q437lLaYg pff, you failed me, now im listening to this
L209[08:57:39] <MichiBot> Yuki Kajiura Collection Music Song | length: 53m 34s | Likes: 548 Dislikes: 6 Views: 31,475 | by kuro kuan | Published On 29/9/2016
L210[08:57:49] <MalkContent> welp. program keeps running, just no input until rebooting it
L211[08:58:10] <Cruor> MalkContent: persistency issues on 1.10.2?
L212[08:58:20] <MalkContent> no reason to worry that skynet keeps working but doesn't show me what it's doing and not letting me input stuff
L213[08:58:25] <MalkContent> yea, everything is totally fine
L214[08:58:43] <Cruor> i dont know if we had that because of a bug, or because i had to uhh... edit our server world... *cough*
L215[08:58:46] <MalkContent> Cruor: according to the issue its over different versions, too
L216[08:58:57] <Cruor> i had to... enable BOP ... on a used world :p
L217[08:59:10] <MalkContent> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/2302
L218[08:59:42] <MalkContent> (biomes o plenty?)
L219[08:59:45] <Cruor> (its really easy, once you know wtf you are supposed to do... just edit level.dat :I)
L220[08:59:49] <Cruor> ye
L221[09:01:28] <Cruor> "logarithms are probably the most confusing thing you will learn here"
L222[09:01:29] <Michiyo> Well, I tried calling in dead, they didn't buy it
L223[09:01:31] <Michiyo> so here I am.
L224[09:01:33] <Cruor> fam, what about them vectors? :I
L225[09:01:41] <Vexatos> Cruor, never heard about quantum mechanics? :I
L226[09:02:02] <Cruor> Vexatos: this is kindergarten maths bro
L227[09:02:17] <Cruor> e^(ln(1/2) + ln(2)) yea fam, so hard :I
L228[09:02:57] <Cruor> you would even get like 40% score by just typing it straight into your calculator
L229[09:03:11] <Inari> 40% fails you
L230[09:03:23] <Vexatos> isn't that, like, 1? :I
L231[09:03:26] <Cruor> ye
L232[09:03:31] <Vexatos> I can does temathz
L233[09:03:39] * Vexatos is good
L234[09:03:41] <Cruor> thats why you write a new line... e^(ln 1/2 * 2)
L235[09:03:43] <Vexatos> >_>
L236[09:03:46] <Cruor> bam, 80% :p
L237[09:03:59] <Inari> Super hard tests
L238[09:04:02] <Vexatos> Need more brackets
L239[09:04:06] <Cruor> that should probably have another set of backets
L240[09:04:09] <Vexatos> Yes
L241[09:04:17] <Cruor> aint got edit features
L242[09:04:18] <Inari> Put like all the brackest
L243[09:04:28] <Cruor> (e^(1 + (1)))
L244[09:04:31] <Cruor> yes
L245[09:04:40] <Inari> (((((()()()(e)(^)(ln(1/2)(*)(2)()()()))))
L246[09:04:41] <Inari> orso
L247[09:05:00] <Inari> Actually
L248[09:05:06] <Inari> just give the answer in Brainfucjk
L249[09:05:12] <Cruor> okay
L250[09:05:15] <Cruor> +.
L251[09:05:33] <Vexatos> Brainfucjk
L252[09:05:37] <Vexatos> It's the java implementation
L253[09:06:04] <Inari> %search urban jk
L254[09:06:08] <MichiBot> Inari: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=jk - *Urban Dictionary: jk*: "Just kidding. Used at the end of a sentence to make it completely void, therefore contributing nothing to the conversation and wasting everyone's time. Therefore ..."
L255[09:06:14] <Inari> Hm
L256[09:06:39] <Inari> I like JKs
L257[09:06:43] <Cruor> yea, `+.` is correct :p
L258[09:06:53] * Inari hands Cruor a JK
L259[09:07:13] <AshIndigo> %inv add jk
L260[09:07:17] * MichiBot summons 'jk' and adds to her inventory. This seems very sturdy.
L261[09:07:22] <Inari> Lewd
L262[09:12:08] <Cruor> Inari: quick, whats 1+1?!
L263[09:12:26] <Inari> Hmm I know ! is factorial but no clue what ?! is
L264[09:12:35] <AshIndigo> its 3!
L265[09:12:39] <Cruor> its 6?
L266[09:13:03] <Inari> It's 1+1?!
L267[09:13:17] <Inari> since it should be 1 + 1 * (?!) and you can't merge those
L268[09:13:33] <Inari> Well you can put 1+?! instead
L269[09:13:38] <Cruor> i dont thin factorial has implicit multiplication
L270[09:13:50] <Inari> Oh truueee
L271[09:13:58] <Inari> So it 1+(?)!
L272[09:14:09] <Cruor> hmm, maybe
L273[09:14:20] <Inari> WA says
L274[09:14:23] <Inari> ?!+1
L275[09:15:13] <Inari> Maybe ask Vexatos
L276[09:15:30] <Cruor> x in [0, 2pi]
L277[09:15:37] <Cruor> excuse me, but no :I
L278[09:15:50] <Inari> Sounds like a circle
L279[09:15:59] <Cruor> thats [0, 2pi>
L280[09:16:04] <Cruor> get ur ch't right exam
L281[09:16:19] <Inari> The heck is that>
L282[09:16:37] <Cruor> from 0 inclusive to 2pi exclusive :I
L283[09:16:48] <Inari> [0,2pi[
L284[09:19:20] <Cruor> ... way to hot inside
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L292[09:45:18] <Magik6k> Networking in OC is fun: https://assets.magik6k.net/screenshoots/c3bb1ff4-8c91-4c09-850f-b761650d36c0.png
L293[09:47:42] <Vexatos> neat
L294[09:48:40] <Magik6k> Now only implement recursive resolving, wrap it in a lib, make OpenOS compat, and push to OP
L295[09:49:42] <Magik6k> I still dunno how to handle network configuration to keep it simple
L296[09:50:03] <Skye> Magik6k, can you make NAT
L297[09:50:40] <Magik6k> I use NAT from my dedi
L298[09:51:05] <Magik6k> (I forward IP packets via TCP to a linux tun device)
L299[09:51:12] <Skye> as in
L300[09:51:16] <Skye> like a mini NAT
L301[09:51:21] <Skye> with an internet card
L302[09:51:53] <Magik6k> Not really
L303[09:52:55] <Magik6k> Internet card can only forward packets via tcp. You could implement http proxy though.
L304[09:53:45] <Magik6k> And I haven't finished TCP as of now
L305[09:53:59] <Saphire> :O
L306[09:54:00] <Magik6k> TCP is harder than the rest of the stack
L307[09:54:00] <Saphire> O:
L308[09:54:04] <Saphire> O..O
L309[09:54:12] <Saphire> FACTORIO PROGRAMMABLE SPEAKERS
L310[09:54:28] <Saphire> Well.. More like iron note block
L311[09:55:36] <Skye> Magik6k, could you make a TCP relay/NAT? dunno what the actual term would be... :x
L312[09:55:43] * Lizzy wants a Lua programable combinator
L313[09:55:54] <Magik6k> hmm
L314[09:56:00] <Magik6k> It might be doable
L315[09:56:30] <Magik6k> But it would be near to the /INSANELY HARD/ level
L316[09:56:44] <Magik6k> You'd have to implement good TCP stack
L317[09:57:08] <Magik6k> Then make a TCP server that would proxy that via internet card
L318[09:57:19] <Saphire> Lizzy: factorio is Lua..
L319[09:58:16] <Magik6k> Listening on some fake network(like 10.99.0.0/16) and integrated with DNS server that would point requests there
L320[09:58:18] <Lizzy> Saphire, I know, but i want a combinator in game that i can use a lua script or some other form of scripting language to do more advanced stuff
L321[09:58:20] <Vexatos> Saphire, Computronics has speakers :I
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L323[09:59:05] <Magik6k> IMO, having a tiny go gateway running on vps/dedi/router is a bit simpler, heh
L324[09:59:27] <Skye> Magik6k, but not everyone has a VPS
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L326[10:00:19] <Magik6k> You can run it on your PC/vm then
L327[10:00:40] <Saphire> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1oRQX8xQeg
L328[10:00:41] <MichiBot> Factorio - Still Alive - Portal - Programmable speakers | length: 3m 15s | Likes: 2,312 Dislikes: 16 Views: 57,162 | by Tritex989 | Published On 25/4/2017
L329[10:00:41] <Magik6k> (I might make some tiny KVM image for that)
L330[10:00:43] * Saphire cries
L331[10:00:57] <Skye> Magik6k, it relies on stuff external to OC. yuck. /s
L332[10:00:58] <Saphire> That's it, it's perfect now
L333[10:01:15] <Saphire> Any game is complete once you can play Still Alive in it
L334[10:01:39] <Magik6k> Well, you can still build perfactly functional IP network with network/wireless/tunnel cards
L335[10:01:41] <Skye> very true for portal
L336[10:01:52] <Skye> Magik6k, also what's the use without TCP? :P
L337[10:02:00] <Magik6k> You have UDP
L338[10:02:08] <Vexatos> pfft
L339[10:02:16] <Magik6k> One thing I did is putting data into influixDB
L340[10:02:24] <Magik6k> https://assets.magik6k.net/screenshoots/8c9f8618-bf25-4ac7-b2be-3ea68ef668be.png
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L342[10:02:38] <Vexatos> You could do that in OC too, and in about seven different ways :P
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L344[10:03:44] <Magik6k> I know, but using UDP seemed more fun
L345[10:03:52] <Vexatos> I was talking to Saphire >_>
L346[10:03:57] <Magik6k> ah
L347[10:04:32] <Saphire> Vexatos: I know! They are the best thing
L348[10:04:46] <Saphire> ...and are actually only driver-less dynamic way to have music in MC
L349[10:04:50] <Saphire> AFAIK
L350[10:05:02] <Saphire> *to have custom and multiplayer
L351[10:05:04] <Vexatos> "they"?
L352[10:05:10] <Cruor> Vexatos: i could totally do that in about... 30sec :p
L353[10:05:25] <Vexatos> Cruor, tape write still-alive.dfpwm1a :I
L354[10:05:36] <Cruor> if we assume i dont use time starting mc :p
L355[10:06:07] <Vexatos> There's the tape drive, the sound card, the noise card, the beep card, computer.beep, iron noteblocks, normal note blocks...
L356[10:06:29] <Cruor> Vexatos: snapshot noteblock sounds for ironnoteblock when? :>
L357[10:06:35] <Vexatos> 1.12
L358[10:06:37] <Vexatos> :⁾
L359[10:06:39] <Cruor> fekkk u :p
L360[10:06:50] <Vexatos> just make them with the sound card
L361[10:07:01] <Vexatos> or write them iónto tape
L362[10:07:42] <vifino> iónto tape
L363[10:07:50] <Vexatos> keyboard :I
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L365[10:08:33] <vifino> Don't you mean keybóard?
L366[10:08:50] <Lizzy> kaybawd
L367[10:09:00] <Inari> "Ami's butt can't take any more" lewd
L368[10:09:06] <Lizzy> ...
L369[10:11:26] * Skye throws cute anime girls being depressing at Inari
L370[10:11:51] <gamax92> what have I walked into.
L371[10:11:56] <gamax92> good morning btw
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L378[10:15:42] <Cruor> Vexatos: here comes the final boss D: the evil vectors
L379[10:16:05] <Vexatos> vectors are, like, super easy though :I
L380[10:16:11] <Vexatos> differential matrices is where you want to have fun
L381[10:16:22] <Cruor> some vector stuff is just weird :I
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L383[10:16:25] <Vexatos> Solving those by hand >__>
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L389[10:23:56] <Izaya> argh
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L392[10:24:24] <Izaya> I can set Kodi to stretch 4:3 video to 16:9 but not stretch 16:9 video to 4:3 >.>
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L397[10:29:23] <vifino> Morning, gamax92.
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L402[10:45:22] <gamax92> $ jaaa -A
L403[10:45:22] <gamax92> Can't connect to ALSA
L404[10:45:22] <gamax92> $ sudo apt-get purge jaaa
L405[10:48:19] <MalkContent> jaaa https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3WimCPUkQY
L406[10:48:19] <MichiBot> Terran Academy.wmv | length: 6s | Likes: 691 Dislikes: 13 Views: 266,990 | by norway003 | Published On 30/11/2008
L407[10:48:30] <gamax92> right ... jaaa can't run under pulseaudio, needs real alsa devices or jack.
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L410[11:02:11] <gamax92> cava works nicely
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L413[11:04:46] <gamax92> vifino
L414[11:05:44] <Cruor> :I so thats how norwegian works
L415[11:12:02] <gamax92> Cruor: magic
L416[11:12:42] <AmandaC> gamax92: jaa?
L417[11:12:45] <AmandaC> +a
L418[11:13:27] <MalkContent> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4DX2DBWtTk ?
L419[11:13:27] <MichiBot> Howie Scream | length: 3s | Likes: 1,091 Dislikes: 46 Views: 291,243 | by seshna | Published On 13/8/2011
L420[11:14:42] <gamax92> AmandaC: The Jack & ALSA Audio Analyser
L421[11:14:46] <AmandaC> ah
L422[11:15:09] <vifino> gamax92: yes?
L423[11:16:29] <gamax92> vifino: https://github.com/karlstav/cava
L424[11:24:38] <Michiyo> Holy shit, he did it..
L425[11:24:46] <Michiyo> CC is on Github o_O
L426[11:27:02] <gamax92> oh wow
L427[11:27:38] <gamax92> Vexatos: ^
L428[11:27:52] <Vexatos> gamax92, these news are
L429[11:27:53] <Vexatos> like
L430[11:27:53] <Vexatos> what
L431[11:27:54] <Michiyo> https://github.com/dan200/ComputerCraft for those too lazy to google :P
L432[11:27:56] <Vexatos> three hours old?
L433[11:28:06] <Vexatos> gamax92, https://github.com/dan200/ComputerCraft/issues/153 :I
L434[11:28:11] <gamax92> Vexatos: no need to be a dipshit
L435[11:28:16] <Vexatos> :P
L436[11:28:28] <vifino> gamax92: cool
L437[11:29:31] <Vexatos> buuut yea
L438[11:29:37] <Vexatos> A pity it couldn't just die
L439[11:29:42] <gamax92> :P
L440[11:29:46] <Vexatos> and it even has a license on its code that doesn't work!
L441[11:29:57] <Vexatos> He just can't do anything right it seems
L442[11:30:53] <gamax92> I kinda wish the repo had actual history but whatever
L443[11:41:07] <gamax92> lol https://github.com/dan200/ComputerCraft/issues/147
L444[11:41:35] <Vexatos> gamax92, quality code
L445[11:41:39] <Cruor> pff, should have used that for ACE instead
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L449[11:52:35] <vifino> dequbed: what type of statistics do you want? I personally just have memory usage and uptime.. I'm kinda rewriting it for you.
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L451[11:53:09] <vifino> I mean CPU usage would probably be helpful.
L452[11:53:30] <vifino> Maybe disk info? Network interfaces?
L453[11:54:39] <vifino> But then again, CPU usage is gonna be "wrong" because you just logged in, network interfaces are rarely changing. Disk info wouldn't be so bad, though.
L454[12:00:52] <MalkContent> the heck
L455[12:01:03] <MalkContent> i just got a present from crafting
L456[12:01:14] <MalkContent> the constant surprises...
L457[12:02:10] <MalkContent> (a button group. just what i always wanted)
L458[12:06:12] <MalkContent> the hell. even more presents
L459[12:07:42] <Vexatos> uuh
L460[12:07:47] <Vexatos> well it is may 1
L461[12:07:56] <Vexatos> national holiday
L462[12:08:09] <MalkContent> ah!
L463[12:08:45] <MalkContent> thanks :)
L464[12:30:13] <Magik6k> Q: What should be the default DNS server for OpenOS/Plan9k? 8.8.8.8/OpenDNS/root-servers/none/?
L465[12:30:46] <AmandaC> Magik6k: DNS over HTTP
L466[12:30:57] <AmandaC> s/HTTP/HTTPs/
L467[12:30:57] <MichiBot> <AmandaC> Magik6k: DNS over HTTPs
L468[12:32:15] <Mimiru> I'd go 8.8.8.8
L469[12:32:23] <Mimiru> but that's just my preference
L470[12:33:44] <gamax92> I'd go 8.8.8.8 too
L471[12:34:47] <Magik6k> AmandaC, it's DNS over IP. If one makes DNS proxy over http, they can change resolv.conf/ohcp server config
L472[12:37:33] <AmandaC> q: why is OpenOS / Plan9k reimplemtneing DNS
L473[12:39:07] <gamax92> Magik6k is interfacing with tun devices iirc
L474[12:43:24] <Magik6k> yup
L475[12:43:56] <Magik6k> I basically implemented IPv4 inside OC, so you can route interwebs into minecraft
L476[12:44:14] <Magik6k> IPv6 is planned
L477[12:46:58] <AmandaC> ... you madman, lunitic, heratic! Where can I see it.
L478[12:47:33] <Michiyo> lol
L479[12:47:34] <gamax92> Magik6k: also did you ever fix the youtube -> dfpwm thing?
L480[12:48:12] <Magik6k> gamax92, dunno, it usually breaks because youtube-dl gets outdated
L481[12:50:22] <Magik6k> AmandaC, there are no docs for that yet, but grab plan9k, install it on hdd, install plan9k-ip(mpt -S plan9k-ip), do `ip oc add [partial network card uuid]`
L482[12:50:41] <Magik6k> then you have 'ip addr'/'ip route' much like in linux
L483[12:50:48] <AmandaC> I see
L484[12:50:57] <AmandaC> Magik6k: plan9k doesn't let me backspace.:D
L485[12:51:03] <Magik6k> wot
L486[12:51:20] <AmandaC> Macs send a different keysym, which I assume is what's tripping it up
L487[12:51:35] <Magik6k> Can you run dmesg and sand what are the codes?
L488[12:51:45] <AmandaC> gamax92 might remember, he hit this with thistle
L489[12:52:00] <AmandaC> otherwise I'll do so later, currently playing factorio
L490[12:52:15] <Magik6k> heh
L491[12:52:57] <Magik6k> There is also routed package which implements RIPv2 for network backbone and ohcp/ohcp-server which work much like DHCP
L492[12:53:50] <Magik6k> From actually useful stuff marcin212 wrote remote component library over UDP
L493[12:55:09] <Magik6k> So now you can hook minecraft lever to a smart light bulb and toggle light IRL
L494[12:56:13] <Michiyo> flash a light in your room if someone breaks into your base
L495[12:56:14] <Michiyo> lol
L496[12:56:28] <Inari> Nono you see
L497[12:56:34] <Inari> you just hite tnt in all your walls and set it off
L498[12:56:37] <gamax92> ahh yeah
L499[12:56:38] <Inari> *hide
L500[12:56:52] * Michiyo hides TNT in Inari's walls
L501[12:57:23] <Inari> Or you control shifted-weight motors
L502[12:57:23] <Inari> :3
L503[12:57:39] <Inari> or offset weight?
L504[12:57:43] <Inari> I don't know the proper term :P
L505[12:58:14] <AmandaC> C4
L506[12:58:22] <Mettaton_Fab> Inari, do you mean rumble motors?
L507[12:58:35] <AmandaC> Inari is most familiar with those in... toys
L508[12:58:48] * AmandaC flees
L509[12:58:57] <Inari> @Mettaton_Fab well thats certainly one application
L510[12:59:23] <Inari> AmandaC: I'm curious about this new tech though
L511[12:59:52] <gamax92> Magik6k: on a mac, the character code for backspace is 127 instead of 8, and 63272 instead of 127 for delete
L512[13:00:05] <Mettaton_Fab> Inari. do you mean HD rumble?
L513[13:00:13] <Inari> Well "new"
L514[13:00:37] <Inari> https://c1.iggcdn.com/indiegogo-media-prod-cld/image/upload/c_limit,w_620/v1487070316/u5njojxyygohwblfn3js.png
L515[13:00:37] <gamax92> atleast this is what AmandaC told me when she hit the issue in Thistle
L516[13:03:03] <Inari> Ooops
L517[13:03:18] <Inari> Well its still pretty nsfw :P
L518[13:03:21] <AmandaC> Inari: l-lewd
L519[13:03:23] <Inari> I thought it was just the picture without the text
L520[13:03:43] <Inari> Like seriously
L521[13:03:47] <Inari> Why do you make texture pictures like that
L522[13:04:02] <Magik6k> gamax92, would that map to OC ascii code or keycode? Coz I see ascii 128 used for quite a few things: https://github.com/OpenPrograms/Plan9k/blob/master/plan9k-core/bin/readkey.lua#L168
L523[13:04:03] <AmandaC> shitty CMSes, usually
L524[13:07:22] <gamax92> Magik6k: the codepoint, not the lwjgl code
L525[13:08:36] <Inari> I need a cheap, low-power, lightwieght, resistant (you can push onto it regularily without breaking stuff), and long-lasting touchscreen that only works with specific pens made for it
L526[13:09:09] <payonel> do robots aggro mobs? can endermen pick up robots?
L527[13:09:43] <Magik6k> IIRC enderman wont pickup TEs
L528[13:10:15] <Inari> Endermen should pick up players
L529[13:10:40] <payonel> Inari: http://imgur.com/a/8wwPx
L530[13:10:54] <gamax92> Magik6k: the lwjgl code was the same though, 14 and 211, so I just checked for those and override the codepoint
L531[13:11:11] <payonel> holy crap it's Magik6k!
L532[13:11:12] <payonel> o/
L533[13:11:16] <Magik6k> \o
L534[13:11:18] <Magik6k> heh
L535[13:11:27] <Inari> payonel: Heh :p
L536[13:11:28] *** rashdanml is now known as rashy
L537[13:11:36] <Inari> I'm not a huge fan of those types of cat
L538[13:11:36] <rashy> I spy a Vexatos
L539[13:11:36] <payonel> i'm getting a lot of heh today
L540[13:11:49] <Magik6k> I even did things
L541[13:11:54] <Vexatos> oh no
L542[13:12:03] <Magik6k> Which include IPv4 for OpenOS
L543[13:12:16] <payonel> Inari: yeah, but this cat is very clever and has a super big personality, so he's quite endearing
L544[13:12:25] <Vexatos> It's the year 3499. Still haven't found a good use for Selene
L545[13:12:58] <Magik6k> I found one, then the project kinda died
L546[13:13:06] <payonel> is the distance field in the wireless modem_message skewed when traveling through blocks?
L547[13:13:22] <gamax92> payonel: heh
L548[13:13:28] <payonel> :P
L549[13:13:40] <gamax92> I do not like the hairless cats
L550[13:13:57] <Vexatos> payonel, well the wireless network card calculates the distance from the strength of the received signal
L551[13:14:15] <Vexatos> so if it passes through blocks, it will be significantly weaker and the receiver will think it travelled further
L552[13:14:54] <Vexatos> gamax92, our cat has two different shades of orange :3
L553[13:15:10] <gamax92> my cat is a solid shiny black
L554[13:15:20] <Vexatos> Rule #1 of living in a (former) farm building: Own. A. Cat.
L555[13:15:29] <Vexatos> One cat = no mice
L556[13:15:30] <gamax92> because mice?
L557[13:15:42] <Vexatos> No cats, no rats, fewer moles
L558[13:15:54] <Inari> http://68.media.tumblr.com/e17d4bf187132ca5ed4f222a297acf69/tumblr_n3x3ezihaL1r31v2no1_500.jpg
L559[13:15:58] <Vexatos> One cat is plenty for a 7000m² garden, too
L560[13:16:01] <gamax92> two cats = three cats
L561[13:16:09] <gamax92> Inari: uhm.
L562[13:16:19] <gamax92> why is the cat pink. :I
L563[13:16:21] <Vexatos> Inari, very cat
L564[13:16:27] <Inari> "So I dyed my cats pink with leftover beet water. No regrets!" apparently
L565[13:16:48] <Vexatos> Our old cat was also shiny black
L566[13:16:48] <gamax92> beautiful white fur ruined
L567[13:16:53] <Vexatos> got like 25 years old
L568[13:17:06] <Vexatos> Used to like eating pea soup for some reason
L569[13:17:27] <gamax92> I hope my cat can get that old, she's 10 atm
L570[13:17:33] <20kdc> gamax92: indeed, ruined... the potential for stroking the cat as it sits on one's lap in a swivelly-chair...
L571[13:17:48] <20kdc> cackling as your underlings send the hero to their demise...
L572[13:18:01] <Vexatos> gamax92, normal age is like 15
L573[13:18:03] <Vexatos> 25 is insane
L574[13:18:14] <Vexatos> Dogs get that old
L575[13:18:16] <vifino> MEOW FEED ME
L576[13:18:24] <vifino> MEOW LOVE ME
L577[13:18:37] <Vexatos> Nah our cats are pretty modest, they don't have much human interaction anyway
L578[13:18:40] <payonel> but to confirm, robots do not aggro?
L579[13:18:41] <Vexatos> apart from us feeding them
L580[13:18:49] <vifino> payonel!
L581[13:18:53] <payonel> vifino: !
L582[13:19:14] <gamax92> /!\
L583[13:19:25] <Vexatos> There's a hall between our living quarters and my grandparents' (all the same building), that's where the cats live
L584[13:19:29] <Vexatos> (and outside, of course)
L585[13:19:38] <Vexatos> They're free to go anywhere
L586[13:19:41] <vifino> You've not committed and pushed anything to ocvm in the last 11 days!!! Unacceptable, payonel!
L587[13:19:45] <vifino> :P
L588[13:19:50] <payonel> vifino: wow, 11 days?
L589[13:19:53] <Vexatos> Except for our living quarters
L590[13:19:59] <Magik6k> Q: should network configuration is openos be based on netctl like thing or something else?
L591[13:19:59] <Vexatos> We don't have animals inside
L592[13:19:59] <vifino> That's what github says.
L593[13:20:01] <payonel> part of that, though i'll be honest not all, but part of that is on a local dev branch
L594[13:20:10] <Magik6k> ocvm? what? where?
L595[13:20:11] <vifino> Heh.
L596[13:20:16] <vifino> Magik6k: https://github.com/payonel/ocvm
L597[13:20:17] <payonel> Magik6k: i made a thing
L598[13:20:24] <Vexatos> payonel, did you make Selene run on it yet
L599[13:20:29] <payonel> haha, no :)
L600[13:20:41] <Vexatos> once selene runs, anything runs
L601[13:20:47] <Vexatos> it's the best OC emulator test
L602[13:21:01] <Vexatos> in other news
L603[13:21:04] <Vexatos> I found a use for Selene
L604[13:21:05] <Vexatos> :⁾
L605[13:21:11] <payonel> yay! haha, what is it?
L606[13:21:16] <Vexatos> ruining emulators
L607[13:21:18] <Vexatos> duh
L608[13:21:22] <payonel> ah
L609[13:21:24] <gamax92> does ocemu run it?
L610[13:21:29] <Vexatos> how would I know
L611[13:21:32] <gamax92> by testing
L612[13:21:32] <Magik6k> If you manage to run my IPv4 bridge over tcp I'll say it's implemented really well
L613[13:21:33] <payonel> >.<
L614[13:21:51] <payonel> Magik6k: in my emulator?
L615[13:21:54] <Magik6k> yup
L616[13:21:56] <payonel> bc if yes, i dont have a modem yet
L617[13:22:02] <gamax92> "over tcp"
L618[13:22:08] <Magik6k> hmm
L619[13:22:13] <payonel> i made it to measure memory
L620[13:22:23] <payonel> and its doing that, and i'm finding fixes
L621[13:22:23] <gamax92> payonel: internet not modem
L622[13:22:32] <Magik6k> It's c++, have you tried asm.js it yet?
L623[13:22:34] <payonel> ewll either
L624[13:22:39] <payonel> well*
L625[13:23:41] <payonel> Magik6k: no, but that sounds like a fun idea
L626[13:25:38] <payonel> but the graphics of ocvm relies on vt100 support
L627[13:25:51] <Vexatos> payonel, please get selene working thanks :D
L628[13:25:51] <payonel> and the kb input expects medium or raw mode from pty or tty
L629[13:26:43] <payonel> Vexatos: do you have setup instructions?
L630[13:27:06] <Magik6k> Don't you set it in program?
L631[13:27:24] <Magik6k> Lupi did it like that: https://github.com/StarChasers/LuPI2/blob/master/src/c/gpu/termutils.c#L53-L64
L632[13:27:54] <Vexatos> payonel, oppm install selene-openos
L633[13:28:52] <Vexatos> edit /etc/selene.cfg
L634[13:28:53] <Vexatos> make true
L635[13:28:55] <Vexatos> reboot
L636[13:28:59] <Vexatos> :u
L637[13:29:01] <payonel> Magik6k: yes, but i don't know what to expect from the ams.js conversion and in a browser -- it was just something it made me think of
L638[13:29:07] <Vexatos> assuming you have oppm support >_>
L639[13:29:20] <payonel> Vexatos: i will when i make the internet
L640[13:29:22] <payonel> :
L641[13:29:23] <payonel> :)
L642[13:29:31] <Vexatos> payonel makes the internet
L643[13:29:59] <Magik6k> payonel, grab tty.js + some abstraction, should work
L644[13:30:41] <Vexatos> payonel, otherwise? install the files as specified here https://github.com/Vexatos/Selene/blob/master/programs.cfg#L2-L32
L645[13:31:06] <Vexatos> so two files in /usr/lib/selene, two in /usr/bin, one in /etc and one in /boot
L646[13:31:16] <Vexatos> then also edit the file in /etc
L647[13:36:36] *** Liz is now known as Vi
L648[13:39:33] ⇨ Joins: daniel (~quassel@jupiter.danger-it.de)
L649[13:39:48] <Vexatos> payonel, dooo eeet :3
L650[13:39:59] <Vexatos> And find me a use for selene while you're at it >_>
L651[13:40:45] <rashy> your own personal whore
L652[13:40:53] <rashy> I mean, -shrug-
L653[13:40:58] <Vexatos> < _ <
L654[13:41:04] <Vexatos> Is that you, Inari?
L655[13:41:09] <Vexatos> inari == rashy confirmed
L656[13:41:13] <rashy> hehe
L657[13:41:16] * Vexatos slowly backs away
L658[13:41:47] <rashy> <3
L659[13:43:17] <rashy> so how have things been in my absence? xD
L660[13:43:57] <Vexatos> uuh
L661[13:44:25] <Vexatos> ComputerCraft went open source (today), OpenComputers went closed source (back in 2055)
L662[13:44:32] <rashy> XD
L663[13:45:14] <rashy> ClosedComputers (y)
L664[13:48:11] <rashy> computercraft dev abandoned it?
L665[13:48:32] <rashy> that explains why it wasn't in FTB beyond, since most FTB packs opted for CC over OC
L666[13:49:36] <Vexatos> yea it's been dead for a year now
L667[13:49:54] <Vexatos> and now he got the sauce on github so it won't be any longer, unfortunately
L668[13:49:55] <Cruor> its gotten more code changes today than last year, probably :I
L669[13:49:59] <Vexatos> up
L670[13:50:02] <Vexatos> yup*
L671[13:50:14] <TYKUHN2> Windows Update Loops!
L672[13:50:38] <rashy> XD rip
L673[13:51:14] <TYKUHN2> Eventually at 35% it gave up and instead of rebooting again just logged in
L674[13:51:46] <TYKUHN2> Also I have a dead bunny
L675[13:51:51] <TYKUHN2> A dead *chocolate* bunny
L676[13:52:31] <Mettaton_Fab> what happened to it
L677[13:52:37] <Vexatos> mine is so horribly disfigured it cannot be called bunny anymore
L678[13:52:56] <Mettaton_Fab> i had one
L679[13:52:58] <Mettaton_Fab> i ate it
L680[13:53:29] <TYKUHN2> I started eating it a few minutes ago
L681[13:53:32] <TYKUHN2> It's a tail
L682[13:55:06] <Mettaton_Fab> do not hide easter bunnies in powermac G5s
L683[13:55:08] <Vexatos> fingercomp, nice blog post there. Thanks :D
L684[13:55:38] <Cruor> ... think this is the 3rd time i boil water
L685[13:55:46] <Cruor> now crucru... remember to put it in the teacup
L686[13:55:51] <Vexatos> I do it every few weeks at university
L687[13:55:59] <Vexatos> Almost every week I boil oil though
L688[13:56:20] <Cruor> maybe i should stop using my phone as a coaster...
L689[13:56:36] <Vexatos> And sometimes I boil evil stuff like MTBE
L690[13:56:38] <TYKUHN2> hmm
L691[13:56:52] <TYKUHN2> my computer is tracking multiple failed security rollups
L692[13:56:54] <Cruor> Vexatos: but do you use your phone as a coaster?
L693[13:57:08] <Vexatos> no
L694[13:57:11] <Cruor> hmmm
L695[13:57:25] <Cruor> i actually had a plate under my tea cup yesterday
L696[13:57:27] <Cruor> was pretty nice
L697[13:57:28] <Cruor> a small one
L698[13:57:37] <Cruor> saved my life, because i acidentally kicked my table
L699[13:57:38] <Vexatos> Such luxury!
L700[13:57:56] <Cruor> ... this glass table is soooo horribad
L701[13:58:08] <Cruor> it goes all like, wiggle wiggle wiggle :I
L702[13:58:44] <TYKUHN2> Damnit
L703[13:58:51] <TYKUHN2> That bunny didn't even last a whole youtube video!
L704[13:58:52] <AmandaC> Cruor: did you try murder? I find that helps sometimes.
L705[13:59:02] * AmandaC drops a dead mouse in Cruor's lap, cuddles back up with Inari
L706[13:59:11] <Cruor> AmandaC: murder what because why? D:
L707[13:59:16] <Cruor> make my table more sturdy?
L708[13:59:35] <Cruor> we had to cut off some of the supports to make my chair fit under it XD
L709[13:59:36] <AmandaC> %choose youtube or try out mk8d
L710[13:59:38] <MichiBot> AmandaC: youtube
L711[13:59:42] <AmandaC> hrm
L712[13:59:47] <Cruor> AmandaC: dont trust michibot
L713[13:59:49] <Cruor> its biased
L714[13:59:57] <Cruor> Vexatos can confirm
L715[14:00:01] <Vexatos> Cruor, my computer monitors are sitting on a huge glass desk
L716[14:00:03] <Cruor> we did insane testing
L717[14:00:09] <Vexatos> Yup
L718[14:01:19] <AmandaC> my gay best friend / co-admin described it best: "It's perfect, because regardless of what it says, your brain will decide on it's own based on the reaction to the answer."
L719[14:01:53] <Cruor> this is so true :I
L720[14:02:05] <Cruor> though i will listen to michibot
L721[14:02:16] <Cruor> and see how long it takes before i get to watch perfect blue <_<
L722[14:05:12] <Cruor> Vexatos: how do i fix my priorities fam :I
L723[14:05:30] <Cruor> i was supposed to make dying cat noises an hour ago
L724[14:06:35] <Vexatos> Cruor, practise violin :I
L725[14:06:43] <Vexatos> or even better
L726[14:06:45] <Cruor> IM WORKING ON IT
L727[14:06:46] <Vexatos> practise violin practise
L728[14:06:51] <Cruor> wat D:
L729[14:06:57] <Vexatos> practise violin practice
L730[14:07:06] <Vexatos> so you get better at practising violin
L731[14:07:11] <Cruor> OOOOH!
L732[14:07:13] <Cruor> genius
L733[14:07:14] <Vexatos> so you stop procrastinating
L734[14:07:32] <Cruor> when procrastinating one of them norwegian book report things
L735[14:07:45] <Cruor> i noticed that productivity for other stuff i was procrastinating increased
L736[14:09:15] <Cruor> Vexatos: can i borrow ears :⁾?
L737[14:10:17] <Vexatos> please no
L738[14:10:27] <Wyvern67> https://www.reddit.com/r/feedthebeast/comments/68mrpr/computercraft_is_now_open_source/
L739[14:10:48] <Wyvern67> reddit thread complete with why people still don't like OC much
L740[14:11:32] <Vexatos> Cruor ^
L741[14:11:40] <Vexatos> "computers are too expensive"
L742[14:11:46] <Cruor> wat
L743[14:11:50] <Cruor> they are way to cheap now
L744[14:11:52] <Vexatos> second comment on there
L745[14:11:53] <Vexatos> :P
L746[14:11:55] <Cruor> just annoying to craft
L747[14:12:09] <Wyvern67> I said expensive but eh
L748[14:12:21] <Wyvern67> I included the power consumption in the "expensive" part
L749[14:12:32] <Wyvern67> don't focus on the crafting it's annoying but it's not that big of a problem
L750[14:12:58] <Wyvern67> "Half of my examples are not worth doing with OpenComputers. It's either not doable early game, or requires cables and a constant power drainage which turns funny contraptions into useless power sinks."
L751[14:13:03] <Wyvern67> That's the important part
L752[14:13:07] <Vexatos> OC uses almost no power :I
L753[14:14:06] <Wyvern67> but it still does
L754[14:14:39] <payonel> so did i read it too fast? all i heard was our recipes are too expensive and robot power drain is too high
L755[14:14:40] <Wyvern67> That means drawing power to it
L756[14:14:58] <Vexatos> recipes are dirt cheap since like 1.6.0
L757[14:15:08] <Vexatos> and power consumption is usually less than a god damn redstone furnace
L758[14:15:28] <payonel> but how far can a robot work without rechage?
L759[14:15:31] <payonel> +r
L760[14:15:37] <Vexatos> quite far
L761[14:16:12] <Wyvern67> Yeah but what about putting power cables all over the place just to make your doors open automatically
L762[14:16:26] <Wyvern67> Or the fact that when power runs out
L763[14:16:27] <Wyvern67> woops
L764[14:16:28] <Wyvern67> no more doors
L765[14:16:30] <Vexatos> don't you already have power cables everywhere anyway
L766[14:16:40] <Vexatos> oh no, you'll have to RIGHT CLICK TO OPEN DOORS NOW
L767[14:16:55] <Wyvern67> You know vexatos
L768[14:16:55] <payonel> Vexatos: may not be literal "door" you can just right click
L769[14:17:19] <Wyvern67> If you actually considered user complaints to be relevant
L770[14:17:22] <Wyvern67> maybe people would use OC
L771[14:17:42] <payonel> wyv[can't tab complete corded names]: i am
L772[14:17:43] <Wyvern67> Of course you're not making the computer open a wooden door
L773[14:18:04] <Wyvern67> The whole point of the computer is that he's the only one capable of opening it
L774[14:18:08] <payonel> anyways, i have some openos bug fixes to push this week
L775[14:18:16] <Wyvern67> you put a whitelist into it and linked it to a radar and shit
L776[14:18:18] <payonel> wyv: well i wouldn't say that
L777[14:18:18] <Vexatos> Yea
L778[14:18:19] <Wyvern67> That's why it's awesome
L779[14:18:32] <Vexatos> Can you put battery upgrades in MCUs?
L780[14:18:34] <Vexatos> I think so
L781[14:18:37] <payonel> the other point is automation, like, "open the doors when i enter the room"
L782[14:18:40] <Vexatos> that should solve quite a bit, actually
L783[14:19:03] <Wyvern67> Yeah "Open the door when I get near it, and only me, and don't let the others open it"
L784[14:19:11] <Vexatos> Well yea
L785[14:19:22] <payonel> just saying security isn't the ONLY reason
L786[14:19:23] <Wyvern67> "Oh and here's a printer. Print a note and tell them to go fuck themselves if they try to open it by hand."
L787[14:19:30] <payonel> haha
L788[14:19:32] <Wyvern67> woops OC doesn't have printers
L789[14:19:34] <Vexatos> But really, microcontrollers use only a tiny amount of power, and with battery upgrades they can run without energy for days
L790[14:19:44] <Vexatos> Install OpenPrinter, Wyvern67
L791[14:19:53] <Wyvern67> not my server ?
L792[14:20:00] <Vexatos> Well that's not OC's fault then
L793[14:20:09] <Wyvern67> nah
L794[14:20:13] <Wyvern67> nobody cares about printers
L795[14:20:26] <Vexatos> Then don't use them as an argument >_>
L796[14:20:31] <payonel> <_<
L797[14:20:42] <Cruor> (havent used them, chisel and bits stole my heart <3)
L798[14:20:51] <Vexatos> Cruor, not 3D printers
L799[14:20:53] <Vexatos> normal printers
L800[14:21:00] <Vexatos> also, Cruor, install Chisels & Bytes
L801[14:21:42] <Cruor> listen to your ear torturing :c
L802[14:21:46] <Cruor> 1 2 or 3
L803[14:22:01] <payonel> also, it might be hyperbole, but they said "300rf/t" for a fancy control screen
L804[14:22:03] <payonel> ...really?
L805[14:22:33] <payonel> i bet it's more like 1 rf/t
L806[14:22:37] <payonel> :)
L807[14:22:46] <payonel> but i dont know, i dont measure this sort of thing
L808[14:22:54] <Cruor> it uses a bit, actually
L809[14:23:14] <Wyvern67> I think mine took 40
L810[14:23:19] <Wyvern67> or something
L811[14:23:21] <Wyvern67> or 180
L812[14:23:56] <Vexatos> ...what
L813[14:24:02] <Vexatos> Could it be that your server nerfed OC to heck >_>
L814[14:24:21] <payonel> xarses: how much power does it take to run a "fancy control screen" ?
L815[14:24:22] <Vexatos> Because you can configure every single power value consumed, converted, produced, stored, in the entire mod individually
L816[14:25:32] <Wyvern67> It was a default version of the "FTB Beyond" modpack
L817[14:26:42] <Vexatos> Also not every program uses the same amount of power, you can actually code in such a way that it uses the least power possible
L818[14:26:47] <Vexatos> You can code power-efficiently
L819[14:26:57] <payonel> yeah that's a good point
L820[14:27:20] <Vexatos> (e.g. while sleeping computers only use 10% of the usual amount of power (by default, of course configurable))
L821[14:28:06] <Cruor> microconntroller minecarts when?
L822[14:28:36] <Kilobyte> Cruor: at some point i have started such a project
L823[14:28:51] <Kilobyte> kinda didn't continue working on it because minecart code is a pain
L824[14:29:02] <Kilobyte> might revive that at some point
L825[14:29:03] <payonel> omg that would be an AWESOME addon
L826[14:29:14] <payonel> >.<
L827[14:29:24] <Kilobyte> might actually revive that...
L828[14:29:37] <payonel> Kilobyte: i would add it to my currently active 1.10.2 world
L829[14:30:55] * vifino debates whether to open up a fully functional thinkpad x230 to flash coreboot
L830[14:31:14] <vifino> On one hand, muh freedoms, on the other hand, it's not a very nice paperweight.
L831[14:31:40] <Wyvern67> Why do we need the individual computer parts in the computer again ?
L832[14:31:51] <vifino> Realism?
L833[14:32:13] <AshIndigo> customization
L834[14:32:29] <vifino> That too.
L835[14:32:43] <Vexatos> Wyvern: Because if you do not need 1MB of RAM, you just get a T1 RAM stick instead
L836[14:32:57] <Vexatos> If you do not need 24 colours, you get a Tier 1 GPU
L837[14:33:00] <Wyvern67> Why can't the computer come with the parts that match its upgrade level
L838[14:33:11] <payonel> imo, RAM and gpu are not a good defenses
L839[14:33:18] <Wyvern67> Make a tier II computer, it comes with a tier II CPU, tier II gpu, tier II ram...
L840[14:33:25] <Wyvern67> Then you can upgrade it
L841[14:33:26] <payonel> but slots for drives and custom cards is why it is great
L842[14:33:27] <Corded> * <Wyvern67> shrug
L843[14:33:39] <xarses_> payonel: fancy control screen?
L844[14:33:44] <AshIndigo> theres various cards for upgrades
L845[14:33:58] <Cruor> make config for having all slots in drone and robots as containers :I
L846[14:34:04] <AshIndigo> and lower tiercases use less power
L847[14:34:10] <Vexatos> Wyvern: But the GPU is a hard just like the sound card, the internet card, the network card, etc.
L848[14:34:12] <AshIndigo> so if you dont need a t3 case you can save pwoer
L849[14:34:13] <Wyvern67> It would remove the crafting problem without touching customization
L850[14:34:18] <Vexatos> Sometimes you might want a computer without a GPU
L851[14:34:21] <Vexatos> when you don't need a screen
L852[14:34:31] <Cruor> Vexatos: ... or when you are to stupid to add one
L853[14:34:33] <payonel> wyv: we have slightly different opinions here, obviously, but like i said, card customization is why it is great. gpu and ram could be integrated into the case, sure, but it's minor and adds realism for funs
L854[14:34:49] <Vexatos> It allows headless computers
L855[14:34:50] <Vexatos> which is nice
L856[14:34:52] <Inari> Theres now crafting problem
L857[14:35:01] <Inari> s/now/no
L858[14:35:01] <MichiBot> <Inari> Theres no crafting problem
L859[14:35:11] <Vexatos> @Wyvern67 I actually made a mod for that :I https://github.com/Vexatos/CheatyComputers
L860[14:35:45] <xarses_> payonel: screens draw power according to the config value for each character drawn on the screen
L861[14:35:52] <Wyvern67> lol
L862[14:35:59] <Wyvern67> That bashing of cruor in the readme.md
L863[14:36:04] <xarses_> I don't otherwise know what you mean by fancy control screen
L864[14:36:11] <Vexatos> That was back when he complained about how expensive OC was
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L866[14:36:17] <Vexatos> Then 1.6 or so happened
L867[14:36:19] <Cruor> ill let you know
L868[14:36:22] <Wyvern67> got upvoted tho
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L870[14:36:23] <payonel> xarses_: https://www.reddit.com/r/feedthebeast/comments/68mrpr/computercraft_is_now_open_source/dgzuzs7/
L871[14:36:24] <Vexatos> and now he complains about how dirt cheap everything is
L872[14:36:28] <Cruor> that texture was created by the o'holy crucru
L873[14:36:35] <Cruor> the god of derp
L874[14:36:37] <Vexatos> The texture is amazing
L875[14:36:45] <gamax92> ~markov Vexatos
L876[14:36:45] <ocdoc> Please wait ...
L877[14:36:48] <ocdoc> Cruor, wat
L878[14:36:48] <Vexatos> took him like 10 seconds to draw, too
L879[14:36:57] <Cruor> arch bishop of the great church of potato
L880[14:37:12] <Cruor> ... what is the top position in a church even?
L881[14:37:17] <Vexatos> pope
L882[14:37:21] <Vexatos> or god
L883[14:37:24] <Cruor> hmm
L884[14:37:25] <Vexatos> depending on your church
L885[14:37:25] <payonel> what is this big complaint about our threading model? it's lua....are coroutines in cc not lua coroutines?
L886[14:37:29] <payonel> what the crap?
L887[14:37:35] <Cruor> so how far from the top am i? xd
L888[14:37:37] <gamax92> payonel: who?
L889[14:37:46] <payonel> https://www.reddit.com/r/feedthebeast/comments/68mrpr/computercraft_is_now_open_source/dgzxjh7/
L890[14:37:46] <xarses_> payonel: ya, I guess if you make a big enough screen it could cost you 300rf/t
L891[14:37:51] <Wyvern67> Oh oh oh, someone responded on my comment and hates OC for reasons I didn't even know existed
L892[14:37:55] <Wyvern67> "I find myself pulling from techniques I used while writing code for DOS computers instead of a modern dynamic scripted environment"
L893[14:37:59] <Wyvern67> Ooooooooooooooooh !
L894[14:38:08] <Cruor> atleast OC has require
L895[14:38:09] <Cruor> oh wait
L896[14:38:10] <Wyvern67> Nerd fight !
L897[14:38:12] <Cruor> it doesnt :⁾
L898[14:38:27] <xarses_> erm, no the max is 160x60 something right?
L899[14:38:34] <gamax92> payonel: lol, what even
L900[14:39:25] <Cruor> what
L901[14:39:42] <payonel> Cruor: what? require? we do use that..
L902[14:39:42] <Wyvern67> Hey which IRC server are you on ?
L903[14:39:45] <Wyvern67> It's not freenode
L904[14:39:50] <payonel> esper
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L908[14:40:06] <Cruor> i use exactly the same techniques for screen drawing loops in OC that i used in CC :I
L909[14:40:10] <Wyvern> Thanks
L910[14:40:12] <payonel> gamax92: what the crap is he talking about?
L911[14:40:13] <Wyvern> Discord was annoying
L912[14:40:50] <Cruor> Vexatos: tell him how good discord sound quality is
L913[14:41:03] <Vexatos> 10/10 would violin again
L914[14:41:17] <Inari> Apparently lua is an object-oritented langauge?
L915[14:41:18] <Cruor> also, i got my chair back :D
L916[14:41:24] <Vexatos> Inari, wut
L917[14:41:28] <gamax92> payonel: no cluew
L918[14:41:33] <Cruor> lua is a piece of ch't trash language that should be killed :I
L919[14:41:34] <gamax92> ~markov Inari
L920[14:41:35] <ocdoc> Please wait ...
L921[14:41:35] <Inari> https://www.reddit.com/r/feedthebeast/comments/68mrpr/computercraft_is_now_open_source/dgzx2nf/ xD
L922[14:41:39] <ocdoc> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NhijmGTwwo
L923[14:41:39] <MichiBot> Could You Survive Home Alone? | length: 10m 15s | Likes: 131,705 Dislikes: 1,668 Views: 5,045,480 | by Vsauce3 | Published On 15/12/2016
L924[14:41:44] <Cruor> ... but happends to be pretty decent at embeded stuff like this :I
L925[14:41:48] <Wyvern> Inari: It can be.
L926[14:41:50] <payonel> Vexatos: can you challenge him on how i made corourtines second class citizens? :/
L927[14:41:53] <gamax92> oh, ... it just picked a random video Inari mentioned
L928[14:41:55] <Wyvern> I use the "classic" lib
L929[14:42:03] <Wyvern> Turns it into a pretty good OO language
L930[14:42:04] * payonel doesn't want to log into reddit today
L931[14:42:11] <Inari> ~markov gamax92
L932[14:42:11] <ocdoc> Please wait ...
L933[14:42:16] <ocdoc> XD yes yes?
L934[14:42:23] <Cruor> Inari: my assembler thing uses "OO" if you dare call it that
L935[14:42:27] <gamax92> >.>
L936[14:42:32] <Cruor> it only works because you force Lua to do it <_<
L937[14:42:32] <vifino> ~markov vifino
L938[14:42:32] <ocdoc> Please wait ...
L939[14:42:37] <ocdoc> beaky | yzziL llet%
L940[14:42:40] <Wyvern> dood it has self referenced objects and super classes
L941[14:42:42] <Wyvern> it's OO
L942[14:43:01] <Wyvern> nobody gives a crap about the fancy stuff
L943[14:43:15] <payonel> ah gamax92 did, thanks
L944[14:43:20] <gamax92> ~markov vifino
L945[14:43:20] <ocdoc> well, fak u runnin asterisk is a portable devboard-style AMD64 computer is in my very small and not nice video you should enable
L946[14:44:37] <Skye> ~markov Skye
L947[14:44:37] <ocdoc> Please wait ...
L948[14:44:40] <ocdoc> well trained emergency services ?
L949[14:44:44] <Vexatos> gamax92, https://github.com/dan200/ComputerCraft/pull/163
L950[14:44:57] <Skye> um
L951[14:44:58] <Skye> okay.
L952[14:45:00] <Skye> ~markov Skye
L953[14:45:00] <ocdoc> .p
L954[14:45:03] <Skye> haahhahaa
L955[14:45:07] <Skye> HAHAHA]
L956[14:45:10] <Skye> AHAHA
L957[14:45:30] <Inari> .p
L958[14:45:30] <Cruor> Vexatos: 955USD
L959[14:45:33] <Cruor> i think i want it :I
L960[14:45:50] <Skye> ~markov Skye
L961[14:45:50] <ocdoc> So if you start doing fish puns I swapped ctrl and capslock is strange integrated + 2x1GB
L962[14:46:00] <Skye> uh k
L963[14:46:05] <Inari> Wyvern: Mymain issue with OC is that it doesn't do much for gameplay. But all computer mods seemed to have that issue
L964[14:46:09] <Vexatos> Cruor, that's more than mc PC
L965[14:46:11] <Vexatos> my*
L966[14:46:15] <Cruor> well uhhh
L967[14:46:21] <Wyvern> Inari: wut
L968[14:46:31] <Cruor> violin is 2330USD
L969[14:46:31] <Wyvern> You just don't know how to use them for gameplay
L970[14:46:47] <Skye> where did the fish puns come from? I did talk about swapping ctrl and capslock. strange... always. Integrated GPU + Dedicated GPU. also me discussing my RAM situation
L971[14:46:50] <Skye> ~markov Skye
L972[14:46:51] <ocdoc> GNU Terry Pritchett
L973[14:47:00] <Skye> I cna#t speel
L974[14:47:14] <Inari> Wyvern: Theres not much they can do, esp. that isn't done better by some other mod in most packs
L975[14:47:34] <Wyvern> There's a couple things I always do in survival
L976[14:47:37] <gamax92> that guy is right though, OC kinda really sucks for survival
L977[14:47:51] <Inari> So was CC,really
L978[14:48:02] <Inari> The only reason CC was less sucky is cause it made its quarry cheaper than other mods
L979[14:48:02] <Inari> :P
L980[14:48:07] <Skye> ~markow Skye
L981[14:48:08] <Vexatos> gamax92, tell that to people who use OC a lot in survival :I
L982[14:48:14] <Vexatos> Forecaster, up for an argument? >_>
L983[14:48:15] <Skye> ~markov Skye
L984[14:48:15] <ocdoc> Inari, do x86 before you release,... fix the 68k chip?
L985[14:48:19] <Wyvern> - Have a computer suck everything in an enderpouch except the last slot, and use the last slot to recharge equipment and request stuff from my ME system
L986[14:48:31] <Wyvern> - Bruteforce the public enderchests and log what's in them
L987[14:48:43] <Cruor> CC is good for early game, because it is a decent enough first quarry :p
L988[14:49:03] <Wyvern> - Find out which dimlets you have more than 10 of, and throw them in recyclers
L989[14:49:11] <Inari> No point in logging enderchests
L990[14:49:17] <Inari> Unless maybe you play PvP
L991[14:49:23] <Wyvern> Dude yes
L992[14:49:25] <Cruor> Inari: you can protect them with diamonds these days :p
L993[14:49:31] <Wyvern> You log them and figure out which ones are use for quarrying
L994[14:49:38] <Wyvern> and you steal like half the quarrie's output
L995[14:49:43] <Inari> ME systems generally provide a tool to rquest stuff
L996[14:49:50] <Inari> which is much better than any OC interface you'd make
L997[14:49:56] <Wyvern> and it cost you a redstone dust, a glass panel and 7 stones
L998[14:50:03] <Wyvern> that's the most amazing one
L999[14:50:06] <Wyvern> that's the one I do first
L1000[14:50:08] <Inari> Wyvern: Well if your playstyle is griefing, maybe it has some uses then
L1001[14:50:21] <Wyvern> Griefing... It's a public enderchest ô_o
L1002[14:50:52] <Vexatos> Isn't the entire problem that you can pretty much do anything with one piece of redstone dust
L1003[14:50:56] <Inari> It clearly wasn't meant to be used by you though
L1004[14:51:13] <Wyvern> It was meant to be unlikely to be found
L1005[14:51:16] <Vexatos> You want a faster quarry? Invest in a second piece of redstone dust
L1006[14:51:16] <xarses_> payonel: 0.05 per pixel list, 2.0 per update (set), 1.0 for each fill, and clear, copy 0.25 for half of the screen factored to the resolution and applied per/pixel updated
L1007[14:51:23] <Inari> You still don't walk into houses and take stuff with oyu just because the door was open ¬_¬
L1008[14:51:23] <xarses_> s/list/lit
L1009[14:51:23] <MichiBot> <xarses_> payonel: 0.05 per pixel lit, 2.0 per update (set), 1.0 for each fill, and clear, copy 0.25 for half of the screen factored to the resolution and applied per/pixel updated
L1010[14:51:33] <Cruor> Vexatos: (and 3 diamonds :p)
L1011[14:51:34] <Wyvern> Vexatos: I agree with that. But it also costs 3 diamonds.
L1012[14:51:36] <Wyvern> I still agree tho
L1013[14:51:45] <gamax92> Vexatos: some people like CC because it's super cheap and powerful, and some people hate CC because it's super cheap and powerful
L1014[14:51:46] <Cruor> or just get a RFTools builder
L1015[14:51:48] <gamax92> can't win them all
L1016[14:51:49] <Cruor> sweet mother of god
L1017[14:51:53] <Vexatos> Then actually, OC robots are far cheaper than mining turtles, Wyvern
L1018[14:51:56] <payonel> xarses_: you rock
L1019[14:52:00] <Vexatos> It's just that they don't run indefinitely
L1020[14:52:05] <Inari> Plus I'd genrally be friends with the people I'd play with anyway
L1021[14:52:05] <xarses_> payonel: his power draw was probably related to wireless, not the screen
L1022[14:52:08] <Wyvern> turtles need coal and shit
L1023[14:52:15] <Vexatos> Unless of course you make them recharge
L1024[14:52:21] <Vexatos> with a generator or solar upgrade
L1025[14:52:29] <Cruor> Wyvern: no, they mine that themselves
L1026[14:52:37] <xarses_> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/blob/5105266f90905a767e5df3938d78fc7162d3e201/src/main/resources/application.conf#L627-L684
L1027[14:52:40] <Wyvern> ~~~depends on the program
L1028[14:52:46] <Cruor> get a better program
L1029[14:52:50] <Vexatos> Wyvern, ...which you get from pastebin anyway
L1030[14:52:55] <Inari> Anyway
L1031[14:52:58] <gamax92> ~markov Vexatos
L1032[14:52:59] <ocdoc> ugh luarocks needs to add into it only gives
L1033[14:53:04] <xarses_> payonel: also, OC power is about 100:1 RF
L1034[14:53:04] <Wyvern> alright but mine is for brewing potions Cruor
L1035[14:53:07] <Inari> Theres only so much you do in MC, and most of that is sadly better done by some other mod
L1036[14:53:08] <Wyvern> go find coal in there :P
L1037[14:53:13] <Vexatos> xarses_, 10:1
L1038[14:53:18] <Wyvern> Not every turtle is a miner
L1039[14:53:23] <Wyvern> That's racist
L1040[14:53:24] <xarses_> Vexatos: oh
L1041[14:53:25] <Cruor> you dont even need turtle.inspect for checking if you found coal :I
L1042[14:53:26] <xarses_> =)
L1043[14:53:56] <Cruor> turtles for brewing stands? ;_; why tho :I
L1044[14:54:11] <Cruor> and even if you use one
L1045[14:54:12] <Wyvern> I don't know it was just an example
L1046[14:54:15] <Cruor> you dont need to move the turtle
L1047[14:54:21] <gamax92> turtles for dancing
L1048[14:54:22] <Cruor> hopper on side and bottom
L1049[14:54:23] <Wyvern> Hey but maybe you've got 30 brewing stands
L1050[14:54:31] <Cruor> use more turtles, as dan would say
L1051[14:54:34] <Wyvern> DUDE.
L1052[14:54:35] <Vexatos> Turtles are worse at dancing than robots
L1053[14:54:36] <Wyvern> no.
L1054[14:54:48] <Inari> Imo OC is mostly good for compacting redstone, or providing functioanlity that isn't given by other mods
L1055[14:54:54] <Vexatos> You wouldn't use 30 turtles because one can already lag a server to death
L1056[14:55:01] <Wyvern> Inari: But redstone costs no power.
L1057[14:55:05] <Cruor> Vexatos: but i used 256 of them... :p
L1058[14:55:12] <Cruor> for the screen thing
L1059[14:55:14] <Vexatos> Cruor, ... when used right
L1060[14:55:19] <gamax92> Cruor: I remember this
L1061[14:55:28] <Inari> Wyvern: Sure
L1062[14:55:35] <Inari> but 4 chunks of redstone is quite laggy and slow
L1063[14:55:36] <Inari> :p
L1064[14:55:45] <xarses_> payonel: eh, updating 1/3 of a t3 screen via set would cost 533/rf\
L1065[14:55:50] <Wyvern> Inari: Don't you hear the little jew person in you telling you to save power ?
L1066[14:55:57] <xarses_> so maybe that is a bit expensive
L1067[14:56:07] <Inari> Wyvern: what :P
L1068[14:56:19] <Vexatos> payonel, nice that one guy is complaining at OpenOS features mostly
L1069[14:56:21] <Wyvern> I don't know. When I generate power I like having my number go up :(
L1070[14:56:32] <Vexatos> Speaking of racism
L1071[14:56:37] <Cruor> uhhh
L1072[14:56:37] <Inari> It uses like
L1073[14:56:39] <Inari> 0 power
L1074[14:56:42] <Vexatos> Yea
L1075[14:56:49] <Vexatos> The amount of power OC uses is... negligible
L1076[14:56:52] <Cruor> you are telling me, you dont have a netherstar farm for powergen? :I
L1077[14:56:53] <Wyvern> Yeah but that's 0 power that could've gone into my number :(
L1078[14:57:06] <Wyvern> went*
L1079[14:57:06] <Vexatos> Wyvern, what does power you don't use do >_>
L1080[14:57:17] <Inari> Energy
L1081[14:57:25] <Vexatos> That's as stupid as a dragon hoarding treasure
L1082[14:57:27] <Cruor> wirelessly charge my draconic bow that i just derp around with
L1083[14:57:30] <Wyvern> ffs I'm going to invest into a [sarcasm] sign
L1084[14:57:31] <AmandaC> https://media.tenor.co/images/7533fa0c93a3651c7e87656c6761033e/tenor.gif
L1085[14:57:34] <Vexatos> maybe moreso because power isn't shiny
L1086[14:57:43] <Vexatos> AmandaC!
L1087[14:57:46] <Vexatos> Just the person we needed
L1088[14:57:47] <Cruor> AmandaC: ssshhh.... back to youtube with you
L1089[14:57:47] <Inari> Wyvern: Srcasm doesn't work well on the net
L1090[14:57:59] <Wyvern> Yeah. I need a sign.
L1091[14:58:06] <Vexatos> Now that almost ever major ComputerCraft person is in here
L1092[14:58:08] * Inari snatches the pizza from AmandaC, settles into a corner and noms
L1093[14:58:15] <Cruor> Vexatos: am i one of them?
L1094[14:58:24] <Vexatos> Cruor, you are op in #computercraft :⁾
L1095[14:58:31] <Vexatos> (why even)
L1096[14:58:35] <Cruor> oh yea, i am :p
L1097[14:58:38] <Cruor> hey!
L1098[14:58:42] <gamax92> ~markov Inari
L1099[14:58:43] <Cruor> im the most sane guy in there
L1100[14:58:43] <ocdoc> what do you know, you banned his dumbness spreads into all parts of brainfuck
L1101[14:58:56] <gamax92> yep
L1102[14:58:59] <Cruor> yes, inari would say that
L1103[14:59:06] <Inari> Cruor: your face would say that
L1104[14:59:16] <Cruor> ... isnt that normaly where somebody speaks from?
L1105[14:59:36] <gamax92> Inari: regressing into a child like behavior doesn't give you infinite youth
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L1108[15:00:03] <gamax92> a wild asie appeared
L1109[15:00:06] <asie> hey so did you hear OC is deprecated? ComputerCraft is Open now xoxoxo
L1110[15:00:10] <Inari> asie-senpaiii
L1111[15:00:15] <Cruor> asie: you are like, half a day late
L1112[15:00:25] <Vexatos> Yea Wyvern just converted us all by telling us how useless OC is compared to CC
L1113[15:00:30] <Cruor> i agree
L1114[15:00:32] <Cruor> this mod sucks
L1115[15:00:34] <Vexatos> By, like, using power
L1116[15:00:36] <Cruor> needs microcontroller minecarts
L1117[15:00:37] <Vexatos> I think
L1118[15:00:37] <Inari> Nah
L1119[15:00:39] <Inari> boht are useless
L1120[15:00:47] <Vexatos> Cruor, http://minecraft.curseforge.com/projects/oc-minecarts
L1121[15:00:48] <gamax92> Cruor: oc in minecarts does exist though
L1122[15:00:49] <Inari> Gimme charset modpack
L1123[15:00:49] <gamax92> that
L1124[15:00:56] * Inari stares at asie
L1125[15:01:04] <gamax92> ~markov asie
L1126[15:01:04] <ocdoc> Please wait ...
L1127[15:01:04] <Wyvern> Gimmie something OC does that CC can't do
L1128[15:01:08] <ocdoc> so i'm making my repo is literally a NAND gates.
L1129[15:01:13] <gamax92> Wyvern: real time video streaming
L1130[15:01:13] <asie> Wyvern: Livestreamed video.
L1131[15:01:17] <Cruor> FINE
L1132[15:01:18] <Wyvern> shit
L1133[15:01:20] <Cruor> YOU WIN THIS TIME
L1134[15:01:22] <asie> Wyvern: Best prat.
L1135[15:01:25] <asie> I sent the video to dan200.
L1136[15:01:27] <asie> And he blocked me
L1137[15:01:32] <Vexatos> (again
L1138[15:01:34] <Vexatos> )
L1139[15:01:36] <Cruor> Vexatos: YOU AND YOUR SILLY MODS
L1140[15:01:38] <Cruor> whats next
L1141[15:01:42] <Wyvern> You probably didn't send it very nicely :(
L1142[15:01:43] <asie> Cruor: livestreamed video runs on vanilla OC
L1143[15:01:45] <Cruor> a mod that adds easy to craft opencomputers?!
L1144[15:01:52] <Inari> ~markov Cruor
L1145[15:01:52] <ocdoc> Please wait ...
L1146[15:01:53] <Vexatos> Cruor, I already wrote CC
L1147[15:01:54] <Vexatos> :⁾
L1148[15:01:56] <ocdoc> looks like an electrical engine to being release stuff you come with beams
L1149[15:01:57] <Cruor> asie: i dont care about your livestreamed stuff
L1150[15:01:59] <Cruor> :p
L1151[15:02:10] <asie> Cruor: okay, how about
L1152[15:02:12] <asie> Unicode
L1153[15:02:13] <Skye> ~markov asie
L1154[15:02:13] <ocdoc> Sangar: learn2read
L1155[15:02:17] <asie> ComputerCraft discriminates non-Latin speakers
L1156[15:02:22] <Inari> I made a bmp viewer in OC once
L1157[15:02:24] <Inari> And tested it with H
L1158[15:02:25] <Skye> ~markov Inari
L1159[15:02:26] <ocdoc> Stop being submissive personally :P But using it has a link, the
L1160[15:02:26] <Vexatos> Wyvern, so during PicoBTM 16.3 we got livestreamed video and audio going :P
L1161[15:02:34] <Vexatos> And yes, CC has no unicode support
L1162[15:02:37] <Vexatos> bad sandboxing
L1163[15:02:39] <Skye> ~markov Vexatos
L1164[15:02:40] <ocdoc> asie, actually... no problem would really looking forward to it
L1165[15:02:44] <asie> ~markov asie
L1166[15:02:44] <ocdoc> I hope to fix that one last question, with the same error correction protocol improvements is terrible. Fix it.
L1167[15:02:44] <Vexatos> highly-non-standard lua implementation
L1168[15:02:45] <Inari> CC has LuaJ :|
L1169[15:02:50] <asie> Inari: So does OC!
L1170[15:02:51] <Cruor> CC has Lua :I
L1171[15:02:54] <asie> Kappa Kappa Kappa
L1172[15:02:55] <Cruor> OC has Lua :I
L1173[15:03:00] <gamax92> OC's LuaJ is better than CC's LuaJ
L1174[15:03:00] <Cruor> both suck
L1175[15:03:00] <asie> OC has LuaJ too!
L1176[15:03:01] <Inari> asie: OC has Thistle
L1177[15:03:02] <Wyvern> CC has ~lua
L1178[15:03:09] <Vexatos> CC has something like Lua
L1179[15:03:20] <Vexatos> Which is very confusing if you know Lua
L1180[15:03:24] <Vexatos> So, uh
L1181[15:03:25] <Cruor> Vexatos: that explains why i like it better!
L1182[15:03:27] <Vexatos> Things CC can't do
L1183[15:03:28] <Vexatos> Hmmm
L1184[15:03:29] <Inari> Wyvern: OC has persistence
L1185[15:03:29] <Vexatos> Drones
L1186[15:03:29] <Inari> hah!
L1187[15:03:30] <Cruor> its further away from Lua
L1188[15:03:42] <Wyvern> Inari: That's not something you "do" tho
L1189[15:03:53] <Inari> Wyvern: Your mom isn't something I do :|
L1190[15:03:53] <Vexatos> Wyvern, when you unload a chunk with an OC computer in it, and reload it, it continues exactly where it stopped instead of shutting down
L1191[15:03:55] <Wyvern> But yeah there's many many things OC can't do that CC could do
L1192[15:03:55] <xarses_> Vexatos: we need "skyhooks" for drones
L1193[15:04:04] <asie> Wyvern: Like?
L1194[15:04:05] <Cruor> xarses_: no, we need railguns
L1195[15:04:06] <asie> I know one.
L1196[15:04:08] <payonel> asie: what vid?
L1197[15:04:09] <Cruor> make railguns happend
L1198[15:04:10] <Vexatos> xarses_, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hf3UvwzGA8U
L1199[15:04:11] <MichiBot> Drone passenger transport | length: 37s | Likes: 14 Dislikes: 0 Views: 432 | by MaakaSakuranbo | Published On 11/12/2015
L1200[15:04:12] <gamax92> crash the server?
L1201[15:04:13] <asie> Wyvern: Spawn ten thousand threads and forkbomb a server.
L1202[15:04:16] <asie> That's what CC can do that OC can't.
L1203[15:04:16] <Inari> I made that
L1204[15:04:17] <Inari> \o/
L1205[15:04:18] <asie> Good job.
L1206[15:04:21] <gamax92> :D asie knows about it too
L1207[15:04:26] <Vexatos> Yea
L1208[15:04:30] <Cruor> oh no, its that video again
L1209[15:04:33] <asie> Wyvern: Also, DoS players by spamming bandwidth on monitors.
L1210[15:04:33] <Vexatos> OC's Lua stuff is badly sandboxed
L1211[15:04:34] <Wyvern> For one, CC has printer dammit.
L1212[15:04:35] <Wyvern> PRINTERS.
L1213[15:04:38] <asie> Wyvern: OpenPrinter
L1214[15:04:42] <asie> and OC has geolyzers.
L1215[15:04:43] <Wyvern> That's not default !
L1216[15:04:44] <asie> And HOLOGRAMS
L1217[15:04:44] <Vexatos> You can basically DOS a server from the inside with it
L1218[15:04:47] <Wyvern> PRINTERS !
L1219[15:04:47] <Cruor> asie: god i hate the geolyzer
L1220[15:04:51] <asie> Wyvern: You know what else is not default?
L1221[15:04:52] <Cruor> Vexatos: tell asie why i hate the geolyzer
L1222[15:04:54] <asie> ComputerCraft on 1.10.2.
L1223[15:04:55] <xarses_> Vexatos: yes, but more stable
L1224[15:05:03] <Wyvern> asie: hahahaha
L1225[15:05:05] <xarses_> and not via a dangle horse
L1226[15:05:06] <Wyvern> Damn you all
L1227[15:05:15] <asie> Wyvern: We're too good at this memeing game
L1228[15:05:18] <Vexatos> Wyvern, geolyzers, hologram projectors, motion sensors
L1229[15:05:20] <asie> and I personally ran into a lot of fights with dan200
L1230[15:05:22] <asie> so I am biased
L1231[15:05:31] <Vexatos> Wyvern, drones, microcontrollers
L1232[15:05:39] <Cruor> Vexatos: OC wins when i have armed drones
L1233[15:05:41] <Cruor> :⁾
L1234[15:05:42] <Vexatos> Wyvern: Data card for fast hashing and crypto algos
L1235[15:05:54] <Vexatos> TCP sockets
L1236[15:06:01] <xarses_> eh, mircocontrollers and still feel so useless to me
L1237[15:06:02] <Wyvern> Vexatos: Hey CC has tcp sockets
L1238[15:06:03] <Cruor> i will find the 'tronix hitlist
L1239[15:06:07] <Cruor> and get a railgun drone
L1240[15:06:09] <Cruor> MARK MY WORDS
L1241[15:06:10] <Vexatos> Wyvern, TCP sockets it can read binary data from
L1242[15:06:18] <Vexatos> CC force-encodes everything to UTF-8
L1243[15:06:25] <Cruor> does CC even read binary properly now? :I
L1244[15:06:26] <payonel> asie: what vid did you send to dan?
L1245[15:06:31] <Vexatos> Cruor, never did
L1246[15:06:40] <Inari> Can CC load lua bytecode though? :|
L1247[15:06:40] <asie> payonel: a recording from BTM16's ending
L1248[15:06:45] <asie> Inari: THAT'S NOT A GOOD THING
L1249[15:06:47] <Wyvern> payonel, asie : More like how did you send it to dan ?
L1250[15:06:49] <Inari> :P
L1251[15:06:58] <Inari> asie: it is(*)
L1252[15:06:59] <Wyvern> The guy is generally kinda nice
L1253[15:07:02] <xarses_> Wyvern: OC has printers via extension and 3d printers
L1254[15:07:03] <Wyvern> How did you get him to block you ?
L1255[15:07:03] <gamax92> isn't sockets just from cctweaks?
L1256[15:07:11] <asie> Wyvern: I linked him a recording from BTM16's ending
L1257[15:07:18] <asie> and he asked me to never show him anything from OpenComputers ever again
L1258[15:07:20] <Vexatos> gamax92, Pretty sure, yes
L1259[15:07:28] <Vexatos> And apparently addons do not count
L1260[15:07:28] <payonel> ha
L1261[15:07:33] <gamax92> so, CC needs a mod to do sockets, and OC comes with it built in
L1262[15:07:35] <Vexatos> Otherwise OpenPrinter would
L1263[15:07:45] <Inari> Classic dan
L1264[15:07:55] <Vexatos> Wyvern, basically, I talked to dan a lot about it
L1265[15:07:57] <Cruor> Vexatos: even CC had weaponized turtles (probably?), so make railguns for drones
L1266[15:08:01] <Vexatos> Seeing anything OC hurts him
L1267[15:08:19] <Cruor> oooo, i know, CC had ICBM support
L1268[15:08:21] <Cruor> or whatever it was called
L1269[15:08:28] <Cruor> we had weapons... kinda :p
L1270[15:08:29] <gamax92> ICBM is dead though :D
L1271[15:08:43] <Vexatos> It sounded like seeing OC made him think all his years' work was for nothing because some random guy did it better in a much shorter time
L1272[15:08:44] <asie> I think it's because of the fact he believes in idea theft.
L1273[15:08:45] <Cruor> gamax92: shush with you, i want Vexatos to give me railguns on drones :p
L1274[15:09:04] <Vexatos> But I am not sure
L1275[15:09:04] <asie> He doesn't want to be seen as a thief, ever, so he doesn't look at competitors so he doesn't accidentally take their ideas.
L1276[15:09:05] <Cruor> asie: but redirection is like... a old af flash game
L1277[15:09:10] <asie> Cruor: SHHHHHHHHH
L1278[15:09:15] <Vexatos> asie, that too
L1279[15:09:17] <Wyvern> I kinda wanted to port the enderchest scanner to opencomputers in survival
L1280[15:09:25] <Vexatos> Should be easy to do
L1281[15:09:31] <Cruor> should be really easy to do
L1282[15:09:34] <Vexatos> just place down a transposer and do
L1283[15:09:34] <Cruor> just slap down a transposer
L1284[15:09:35] <xarses_> enderchest scanner?
L1285[15:09:35] <Wyvern> So I made a computer, a GPU, a CPU, some ram, a screen, a keyboard, an enderchest, an adapter, an internet card
L1286[15:09:38] <Cruor> Vexatos: GET OUTA HERE
L1287[15:09:42] <Cruor> I AM THE TRANSPOSER MASTER
L1288[15:09:44] <Wyvern> and had to draw power to it
L1289[15:09:45] <Vexatos> Wyvern, s/adapter/transposer
L1290[15:09:55] <Wyvern> It was kind of painful
L1291[15:10:02] <Vexatos> drawing a power cable to a computer?
L1292[15:10:04] <Cruor> gamax92: (do you think i will ever get my railgun drones)
L1293[15:10:04] <Vexatos> oh the pain
L1294[15:10:04] <Inari> See
L1295[15:10:08] <gamax92> Cruor: yes
L1296[15:10:10] <Inari> thats why you just /oc_spawnComputer
L1297[15:10:11] <Cruor> nice
L1298[15:10:15] <Cruor> Inari: get out XD
L1299[15:10:18] <payonel> /oc_Sc
L1300[15:10:21] <Vexatos> ^
L1301[15:10:21] <payonel> /oc_sc
L1302[15:10:28] <asie> Also, Wyvern. Don't forget.
L1303[15:10:29] <gamax92> /oc_SuCks
L1304[15:10:30] <payonel> didn't mean to cap the S
L1305[15:10:31] <asie> OC has a CC emulator.
L1306[15:10:34] <asie> CC doesn't have an OC emulator.
L1307[15:10:35] <Inari> xD
L1308[15:10:42] <Vexatos> Wyvern, what is painful about drawing cables when your base is already littered with them :I
L1309[15:10:44] <Vexatos> Also that
L1310[15:10:46] <Wyvern> asie: Oh that thing again
L1311[15:10:49] <Wyvern> Where is it ?
L1312[15:10:57] <Vexatos> https://oc.cil.li/index.php?/topic/1063-computercraft-emulator/
L1313[15:10:58] <Wyvern> I couldn't find it
L1314[15:10:59] <Cruor> does work last time i tried it
L1315[15:11:05] <asie> https://oc.cil.li/index.php?/topic/1296-computarcraft-emulator/
L1316[15:11:07] <Cruor> doesnt* :I
L1317[15:11:10] <Vexatos> ah there
L1318[15:11:10] <asie> Cruor: It does.
L1319[15:11:14] <Wyvern> We could not locate the item you are trying to view.
L1320[15:11:19] <Cruor> asie: was not working around two weeks ago
L1321[15:11:20] <asie> my link is better
L1322[15:11:21] <Vexatos> try the second link
L1323[15:11:24] <asie> Cruor: odd, ask Magik6k
L1324[15:11:30] <Cruor> i asked Vexatos
L1325[15:11:32] <Cruor> and he be like
L1326[15:11:32] <Cruor> :I
L1327[15:11:32] <Vexatos> worked for me last time I tried
L1328[15:11:35] <Cruor> and i was like :I
L1329[15:11:40] <Cruor> and then Odd was like *flip table*
L1330[15:11:45] <Vexatos> well odd is odd
L1331[15:11:47] <gamax92> ~markov Cruor
L1332[15:11:47] <ocdoc> ^_C,',','7 is it to load the midi specs and what the heck
L1333[15:11:57] <Cruor> god bless
L1334[15:12:04] <Cruor> even markov chains cant make sense of me
L1335[15:12:06] <Cruor> :⁾
L1336[15:12:36] <Wyvern> ~markov asie
L1337[15:12:37] <Inari> OC has a soundcard
L1338[15:12:37] <ocdoc> also, oc OS in a lot of the OC-builtin peripherals as well)
L1339[15:12:51] <Wyvern> Ooooh the soundcard
L1340[15:12:53] <Wyvern> best OC feature
L1341[15:12:59] <Cruor> no
L1342[15:13:02] <Cruor> nobody knows how to use it :p
L1343[15:13:19] <Wyvern> Dude nobody cares you have os.beep() to tell you when your reactor goes low
L1344[15:13:30] <Cruor> its like me and uhhh some other dude
L1345[15:13:33] <Cruor> gamax92 doesnt count anymore
L1346[15:13:33] <Wyvern> You have a beep.
L1347[15:13:38] <Lizzy> If you're just here to shit on either OC or CC then please kindly leave.
L1348[15:13:38] <gamax92> Cruor: :<
L1349[15:13:39] <Wyvern> That's enough of a sound card :D
L1350[15:13:44] <Vexatos> Wyvern, someone doesn't know what a sound card is
L1351[15:13:47] <gamax92> Lizzy no the conversation is fine.
L1352[15:13:56] <Cruor> gamax92: sorry fam, you basicly a dev yo
L1353[15:14:05] <Vexatos> Wyvern, what about eight channels, four wave types, ADSR, FM, AM, noise generation
L1354[15:14:07] zsh sets mode: +v on ocdoc
L1355[15:14:17] <Inari> OC can play https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RXomI65nek
L1356[15:14:17] <MichiBot> Megumin of the Crimson Demons | length: 2m 44s | Likes: 2,003 Dislikes: 18 Views: 103,967 | by Rlcemaster3 | Published On 20/2/2016
L1357[15:14:18] <Inari> :|
L1358[15:14:22] <Cruor> Wyvern: the sound card does insane sound stuff, you are thinking about either the beep card or the built in speaker :I
L1359[15:14:29] <Wyvern> Vexatos: That's for fancy beeps
L1360[15:14:36] <Vexatos> Wyvern, you haven't used the sound card
L1361[15:14:37] <Vexatos> clearly
L1362[15:14:42] <Wyvern> (never used it)
L1363[15:14:45] <Cruor> Wyvern: uhhh....
L1364[15:14:47] <Wyvern> (thought you were talking about the beep)
L1365[15:14:50] <Wyvern> (CC doesn't have sound)
L1366[15:14:51] <Cruor> the sound card is for insane people
L1367[15:14:52] <Vexatos> there is beep
L1368[15:14:54] <Vexatos> then there is the beep card
L1369[15:14:57] <Vexatos> then there is the noise card
L1370[15:15:00] <Vexatos> then there is the sound card
L1371[15:15:03] <Cruor> what does the noise card do again?
L1372[15:15:04] <gamax92> and there's also MassSound
L1373[15:15:05] <Cruor> i skipped that one :p
L1374[15:15:11] <Vexatos> Cruor, beep card with 4 wave types
L1375[15:15:16] <Cruor> aha
L1376[15:15:17] <Wyvern> beep bep
L1377[15:15:25] <Cruor> i only know my soundcard code can do midi
L1378[15:15:26] <Cruor> kinda :p
L1379[15:15:36] <Vexatos> Wyvern, the sound card is pretty much a legit sound card
L1380[15:15:38] <gamax92> Cruor: my midi player trumps your midi player
L1381[15:15:38] <Cruor> ... its a side effect :I
L1382[15:15:39] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Er-YHMgToP4
L1383[15:15:39] <MichiBot> Computronics SoundCard - Second Test | length: 3m 3s | Likes: 7 Dislikes: 0 Views: 386 | by gamax92 | Published On 11/5/2016
L1384[15:15:41] <Vexatos> if you are in the late 80s
L1385[15:15:44] <Cruor> gamax92: mine isnt a midi player :I
L1386[15:15:49] <gamax92> hence
L1387[15:15:54] <payonel> a guy on my server wrote the tetris song to play via computer.beep calls: https://hastebin.com/libudusawi.pl
L1388[15:15:56] <Wyvern> I'd have loved to have sound in many occasions with CC
L1389[15:16:02] ⇨ Joins: peelz (webchat@modemcable171.132-201-24.mc.videotron.ca)
L1390[15:16:10] <Vexatos> Wyvern, that video there only uses ADSR, even
L1391[15:16:13] <Inari> payonel: Why do you have a secret server :|
L1392[15:16:14] <Michiyo> what the fuck have I come back to... also TIL, remove openprinter from ping list.
L1393[15:16:15] <Wyvern> That was one of the best part when I switched to CC
L1394[15:16:20] <Wyvern> to OC*
L1395[15:16:24] <asie> openprinter
L1396[15:16:27] <Michiyo> ._.
L1397[15:16:35] <Inari> %inv add openprinter
L1398[15:16:37] <Cruor> my soundcard stuff is to play stuff like this :I https://musescore.com/user/956571/scores/1176976
L1399[15:16:38] * MichiBot summons 'openprinter' and adds to her inventory. I could get some good swings in with this.
L1400[15:16:44] <Michiyo> %inv rem openprinter
L1401[15:16:46] <MichiBot> Michiyo: Removed item from inventory
L1402[15:16:47] <Michiyo> %ignore Inari
L1403[15:16:48] <Inari> :<
L1404[15:16:51] <Inari> How rude
L1405[15:16:57] <payonel> Inari: secret? not secret -- i've been hosting mc worlds for a long time
L1406[15:17:04] <payonel> i guess i just dont publicize it
L1407[15:17:07] <gamax92> payonel: I didn't know that either
L1408[15:17:10] <Vexatos> Wyvern, so yea, that's what the sound card can do. don't just call it beeps :I
L1409[15:17:11] <payonel> oh
L1410[15:17:13] <Inari> %inv add anti-ignnore spray!
L1411[15:17:16] <payonel> :)
L1412[15:17:22] <gamax92> ~markov payonel
L1413[15:17:22] <ocdoc> Please wait ...
L1414[15:17:22] <Inari> Michiyo: Psh!
L1415[15:17:25] <ocdoc> Lizzy: it creeps back a version (which is no node " " .. why)
L1416[15:17:30] <Cruor> Vexatos: it can also play friend shitai :p
L1417[15:17:33] * Lizzy stabs ocdoc
L1418[15:17:47] <Vexatos> Wyvern, Computronics also adds the tape drive which obviously works ten times better on OC than on CC due to a certain WHY DOES DOWNLOADED STUFF HAVE TO BE ENCODED IN UTF-(
L1419[15:17:55] <payonel> Michiyo: cc is now oc
L1420[15:17:55] <Vexatos> UTF-8 capslock fial
L1421[15:17:57] * payonel trolls
L1422[15:18:00] <Cruor> UTF-((((
L1423[15:18:01] <Vexatos> fail*
L1424[15:18:02] * Vexatos dies
L1425[15:18:05] <Michiyo> %unignore Inari
L1426[15:18:09] <Inari> \o/
L1427[15:18:11] <Cruor> sir the universe might implode
L1428[15:18:14] <payonel> %lewd inari
L1429[15:18:16] <Cruor> close that bracket now!
L1430[15:18:22] <Vexatos> Wyvern, and uuh the tape drive can play pretty much any music ever
L1431[15:18:22] <Wyvern> CLOSE IT !
L1432[15:18:23] <Inari> ..%inv add open... just kidding
L1433[15:18:24] <Inari> :p
L1434[15:18:29] <asie> Wyvern: (
L1435[15:18:30] <ping> Michiyo, pong
L1436[15:18:33] <gamax92> Cruor: lisp
L1437[15:18:35] <ping> im late
L1438[15:18:37] <Wyvern> Vexatos: that's pretty dope
L1439[15:18:38] <Vexatos> because it uses a legit* audio codec
L1440[15:18:49] <Michiyo> %tban Inari 99y :D
L1441[15:18:50] <Michiyo> :P
L1442[15:18:54] <Inari> D:
L1443[15:18:58] <payonel> o_O
L1444[15:19:00] <Cruor> Michiyo: dont ban my poor Inari D:
L1445[15:19:01] <Vexatos> Wyvern, it's how asie got realtime livestreaming with audio working
L1446[15:19:06] <Michiyo> %tb[zws]an
L1447[15:19:06] <Vexatos> write to tape at the same time as playing it
L1448[15:19:12] <Inari> I need my kouhai!
L1449[15:19:22] <Michiyo> also... can't do years
L1450[15:19:27] <peelz> Does anybody know what these escaped characters are? https://github.com/gamax92/OCEmu/blob/master/src/customlua/ocemu/bin/cfgemu.lua#L18
L1451[15:19:30] <Cruor> Inari: am i a kouhai now?
L1452[15:19:31] <peelz> I assumed they were UTF-8 glyphs, but I can't seem to figure out how to decode them. (they render a floppy disk image in OC)
L1453[15:19:36] <Michiyo> don't remember if it's weeks or months that is the maximum span
L1454[15:19:41] <Inari> Cruor: Only after you pass the test
L1455[15:19:46] <Cruor> but im like
L1456[15:19:47] * Inari kicks Cruor into the tentacle pit
L1457[15:19:48] <Cruor> older than you .-.
L1458[15:19:58] <Wyvern> I'd still have liked OC to "replace" CC more when it went out
L1459[15:20:01] <Cruor> is it the... consentacle pit?
L1460[15:20:09] <Wyvern> When you have a superior version of something you should make it accessible
L1461[15:20:19] <Vexatos> Wyvern, OC doesn't try to replace CC, that would just lower its quality
L1462[15:20:21] <Wyvern> So as not to pull a Microsoft
L1463[15:20:23] <Inari> Cruor: Prefearbly not?
L1464[15:20:27] <gamax92> peelz: you decode each byte as UTF-8
L1465[15:20:30] <Cruor> Inari: why not? D:
L1466[15:20:34] <Inari> More fun
L1467[15:20:37] <gamax92> %lua "\226\150\137\238\161\129\238\161\129\238\161\129\238\161\129\238\132\132"
L1468[15:20:37] <Cruor> hmm
L1469[15:20:39] <MichiBot> ▉
L1470[15:20:42] <gamax92> uhh.
L1471[15:20:44] <Vexatos> Wyvern, need any more examples of things OC can do that CC can't? >_>
L1472[15:20:50] <Cruor> whatever floats your tentacles, i guess
L1473[15:20:51] <peelz> gamax92: Those are octal, right?
L1474[15:20:53] <gamax92> no
L1475[15:20:55] <Inari> Oooh
L1476[15:20:58] <gamax92> decimal
L1477[15:20:59] <Inari> I have an idea for a OC addon
L1478[15:21:04] <Inari> Its a block
L1479[15:21:08] <peelz> gamax92: oh, alright, gimme a sec
L1480[15:21:09] <Inari> With a tentacle coming out its top
L1481[15:21:09] <Cruor> Inari: WEAPONS OF (M)ASS DESTRUCITON?
L1482[15:21:12] <Inari> And you control lit with OC
L1483[15:21:13] <gamax92> peelz: octal requires you start with a 0
L1484[15:21:34] <Vexatos> Cruor, as soon as I can get Sangar to help me with them
L1485[15:21:40] <Vexatos> Because I cannot model
L1486[15:21:44] <Cruor> Inari: i think we need to calmdown before the lewd police comes
L1487[15:21:55] <Vexatos> Better not have Kodos here
L1488[15:22:09] <Cruor> Vexatos: hey, i can model
L1489[15:22:16] <payonel> Inari: makes me think of something nanobots could do
L1490[15:22:16] <Cruor> let me draw you a sketch
L1491[15:22:34] <Wyvern> Vexatos: It wouldn't necessarily have made it worse
L1492[15:22:35] <Vexatos> payonel, HMMMM
L1493[15:22:47] <Inari> payonel: S-stimulation?
L1494[15:22:53] <gamax92> a long segmented pyramid with each node being able to control it's rotation
L1495[15:22:57] <Vexatos> Wyvern, oh right, I forgot: Nanomachine-controlled bees. Your argument is invalid
L1496[15:23:02] <Cruor> http://tinyurl.com/jw286za
L1497[15:23:04] <Wyvern> What ?
L1498[15:23:07] <Vexatos> Yes
L1499[15:23:09] <Cruor> Vexatos: what you think?
L1500[15:23:10] <Wyvern> pics or didn't happen
L1501[15:23:12] <Cruor> pretty good ey?
L1502[15:23:17] <Vexatos> https://gfycat.com/EasygoingLittleBichonfrise
L1503[15:23:21] <gamax92> Inari: actually, one can simulate this in OC with openglasses
L1504[15:23:26] <Vexatos> wait
L1505[15:23:28] <Vexatos> wrong bee gdfy
L1506[15:23:38] <Inari> gamax92: ?
L1507[15:23:39] <gamax92> sadly openglasses doesn't have depth support but, it would atleast work as a prototype
L1508[15:23:43] <Vexatos> where are my other bee gfys
L1509[15:23:47] <payonel> Inari: ^.^
L1510[15:23:49] <Cruor> gamax92: there is openglass? D:
L1511[15:23:54] <Vexatos> https://gfycat.com/FrighteningUnsightlyGourami
L1512[15:23:57] <Vexatos> here we go
L1513[15:23:57] <Wyvern> when you have enough bee gfys to confuse them
L1514[15:23:58] <Vexatos> Wyvern, ^
L1515[15:24:03] <gamax92> Inari: use openglasses to spawn polygons in the world, as a prototype tentacle block
L1516[15:24:15] <Wyvern> Theee hell
L1517[15:24:18] <Cruor> Vexatos: look at my amazing concept art damn it
L1518[15:24:22] <Wyvern> How's that done ?
L1519[15:24:23] <Vexatos> https://gfycat.com/TiredFrankAustraliankestrel
L1520[15:24:29] <Vexatos> that is the first concept
L1521[15:24:53] <Cruor> i spent about 30sec on it god damn it
L1522[15:24:55] <Vexatos> Thanks o7
L1523[15:24:57] <gamax92> Vexatos: what is that hitbox :P
L1524[15:25:09] <Vexatos> F3+B
L1525[15:25:14] <Wyvern> I have no idea how this works.
L1526[15:25:14] <Vexatos> show entity bounds
L1527[15:25:27] <Cruor> i should do some more maths before i go to bed :I
L1528[15:25:28] <Vexatos> Wyvern, need any more things OC can do that CC can't :I
L1529[15:25:29] <gamax92> but why is it a cube sized bee
L1530[15:25:43] <Wyvern> Go tell the people on the reddit post not me
L1531[15:25:45] <Cruor> Vexatos: we allready covered this
L1532[15:25:50] <Cruor> OC cant crash a server by forkbombing
L1533[15:25:59] <Vexatos> Wyvern, you didn't post on reddit? :P
L1534[15:26:02] <Vexatos> A sane person
L1535[15:26:10] <Wyvern> instead of your shitty "ask the admin to change something he gives no shits about" reply
L1536[15:26:15] <gamax92> ^
L1537[15:26:19] <gamax92> that was stupid Vexatos
L1538[15:26:21] <xarses_> wtf is that Vexatos
L1539[15:26:24] <xarses_> that is neat
L1540[15:26:24] <Vexatos> What a bad admin
L1541[15:26:53] <Vexatos> I continuously forget that there are people who are forced to play on servers with bad admins :I
L1542[15:26:59] <Wyvern> For every 10 people on a server
L1543[15:27:05] <Vexatos> and I apparently forget the English language at 10 p.m., too
L1544[15:27:06] <Michiyo> yay Badmins.
L1545[15:27:10] <Wyvern> there's maybe one that's good enough to download a pastebin
L1546[15:27:16] <Cruor> badministrators ftw
L1547[15:27:29] <Wyvern> on a computer
L1548[15:27:37] <Cruor> Vexatos: know that feel
L1549[15:27:40] <Wyvern> Opencomputer maybe reduced that number to half a person
L1550[15:27:45] <Cruor> its like you are in the same timezone as me
L1551[15:27:48] <Wyvern> Admins don't give a crap
L1552[15:28:09] <Vexatos> What kind of terrible server do you play on
L1553[15:28:16] <Vexatos> The entire purpose of a server admin is to care
L1554[15:28:40] <Wyvern> Okay, I'm defeatist
L1555[15:28:43] <Vexatos> What are they doing, if not that
L1556[15:28:50] <Wyvern> They care
L1557[15:28:53] <Wyvern> But they don't get the mod
L1558[15:29:03] <Wyvern> They also don't get why they should make it power free
L1559[15:29:06] <Vexatos> Then argue why it is a good thing, get others interested in OC to agree
L1560[15:29:07] <Vexatos> done
L1561[15:29:08] <Wyvern> "Hey but won't that break balance ?"
L1562[15:29:12] <Vexatos> Yes it would
L1563[15:29:18] <Vexatos> But if it fits the server's play style, why not
L1564[15:29:23] <gamax92> and then thus it doesn't change
L1565[15:29:35] <Vexatos> If you play on a hardcore server wanting free computers
L1566[15:29:39] <Vexatos> you play on the wrong server, methinks
L1567[15:29:48] <gamax92> nobody ever said the server was hardcore
L1568[15:30:03] <Vexatos> If you play on an easy server wanting free computers, I don't see why the admin wouldn't change it
L1569[15:30:07] <Wyvern> And you say "play style" but they don't even get what the mod does
L1570[15:30:21] <peelz> gamax92: can't seem to decode some characters correctly (using https://software.hixie.ch/utilities/cgi/unicode-decoder/utf8-decoder )
L1571[15:30:21] <Cruor> Wyvern: it doesnt do anything :I
L1572[15:30:23] * Michiyo closes IRC and walks away
L1573[15:30:41] <payonel> peelz: which one?
L1574[15:31:07] <peelz> From the second char to the last
L1575[15:31:17] <peelz> Well, utf-8 codepoint
L1576[15:31:17] <gamax92> btw this is lovely. https://www.reddit.com/r/feedthebeast/comments/4r645f/
L1577[15:31:35] <Vexatos> Wyvern, a pity
L1578[15:31:53] <Wyvern> yup
L1579[15:31:53] <gamax92> peelz: some of the characters only work with the font OC has because OC replaces some of the private areas with graphical friendly glyphs
L1580[15:32:06] <asie> gamax92: it's not OC, it's Unscii
L1581[15:32:08] <asie> the font OC uses now
L1582[15:32:08] <Wyvern> The config should be changed in the modpack
L1583[15:32:17] <peelz> ohh
L1584[15:32:18] <peelz> makes sense
L1585[15:32:27] <gamax92> asie: I thought it was funscii
L1586[15:32:36] <Cruor> gamax92: what about putting it in a pyrolyse chamber
L1587[15:32:38] <asie> gamax92: funscii is a fork of unscii
L1588[15:32:40] <Cruor> that should help
L1589[15:32:55] <peelz> gamax92: are those private ranges documented?
L1590[15:33:30] <gamax92> peelz: http://pelulamu.net/unscii/ look at the "NON-UNICODE CHARACTERS" section
L1591[15:33:40] <asie> i don't think funscii adheres to that fully
L1592[15:33:46] <peelz> gamax92: I was just looking at that, thanks :)
L1593[15:33:46] <gamax92> ahh well...
L1594[15:35:24] <Wyvern> Oh jeez I just realized I didn't even look at the sources
L1595[15:35:32] <peelz> gamax92: there's no mention of unscii on ocdoc.cil.li, maybe someone should add that?
L1596[15:37:28] <Wyvern> Has anyone looked at the CC source code yet ?
L1597[15:37:36] <Vexatos> yes
L1598[15:37:38] <Vexatos> Of course
L1599[15:37:41] <Vexatos> I have years ago
L1600[15:37:51] <Vexatos> I know how bad it uis
L1601[15:37:54] <Vexatos> is*
L1602[15:38:01] <Vexatos> (and still is
L1603[15:38:08] <payonel> Wyvern: yeah didn't you know oc actually is a fork of cc?
L1604[15:38:16] <Wyvern> Wut
L1605[15:38:20] <Vexatos> nono, CC is a fork of OC
L1606[15:38:23] <Wyvern> You're shitting me right ?
L1607[15:38:26] <Vexatos> which is a fork of NedoComputers
L1608[15:38:33] <Inari> xD
L1609[15:38:33] <Vexatos> which is a fork of the C64
L1610[15:38:34] <payonel> Vexatos: ah right, i get those mixed up
L1611[15:38:46] <Wyvern> :(
L1612[15:38:53] <Wyvern> gullible me
L1613[15:39:00] <Kilobyte> well, it's easy enough to mix them up, done that myself multiple times
L1614[15:39:06] <Kilobyte> they are too similar
L1615[15:39:18] <Vexatos> Wyvern, I have a well-founded opinion on CC and can say with years of experience how bad it is internally :P
L1616[15:39:34] <Inari> Circuity is the best anyway
L1617[15:39:43] <Vexatos> (not to be confused with Circuitry)
L1618[15:39:59] <gamax92> Redpower2
L1619[15:40:01] <Inari> Should have called it Circuit computers
L1620[15:40:02] <Inari> CC
L1621[15:40:02] <Inari> :p
L1622[15:40:08] <Vexatos> https://github.com/Vexatos/CheatyComputers
L1623[15:40:13] <Inari> Heh
L1624[15:40:14] <Vexatos> already linked that but relevant again
L1625[15:40:26] <payonel> i'm still annoyed about that comment on "openos makes threads second class citizens" i mean, what the crap is he talking about
L1626[15:40:44] <Temia> lolwut
L1627[15:40:46] <Wyvern> payonel: the parallel api
L1628[15:40:47] * AmandaC walks back in, does a u-turn back out
L1629[15:40:52] <Wyvern> not the coroutine one that is default in lua
L1630[15:40:54] <Inari> Dunno, probably just doesn't like that theres no parallel api
L1631[15:40:59] <Wyvern> "I have no idea why I made this mod. It's horrible. But hey, Cruor can stop complaining now."
L1632[15:41:15] <Wyvern> I should've complained earlier
L1633[15:41:19] <Cruor> Vexatos: did i stop complaining? :⁾
L1634[15:41:19] <Wyvern> I'd have gotten my name in there too
L1635[15:41:28] <payonel> oh i dont know anything about cc's parallel api, is that a thing?
L1636[15:41:28] <Temia> >Compile it for yourself
L1637[15:41:37] <Temia> As if anyone who'd want to use it would go through the effort :v
L1638[15:41:46] <Vexatos> Temia, exactly
L1639[15:41:49] <Vexatos> noone will use it
L1640[15:41:50] * Temia ^5
L1641[15:41:52] <Vexatos> exactly what I want
L1642[15:42:01] <payonel> ok, so he is wrong in thinking we nerfed coroutines, and is actually using something cc added?
L1643[15:42:08] <Wyvern> Vexatos: classic OC mindset :P
L1644[15:42:17] <Cruor> payonel: yea, its a thing
L1645[15:42:20] <Vexatos> Wyvern not getting a joke
L1646[15:42:23] <Wyvern> *running away*
L1647[15:42:28] <payonel> for my sanity, i'd love someone who knows what they're talking about reply to that comment and point that out
L1648[15:42:31] <Cruor> its kinda... making it really simple
L1649[15:42:39] <Skye> payonel, don't you know what you're doing?
L1650[15:42:39] <payonel> because...someone on the internet is wrong and it has to be fixed
L1651[15:42:41] <Inari> payonel: parallel API is... you hadn it a bunch of functions, it makes coroutines for all of them, and calls them with each event in order
L1652[15:42:44] <Cruor> but you are recommended to not use it
L1653[15:42:48] <payonel> Skye: i dont know about cc parallel api
L1654[15:43:00] <Cruor> and just use events instead <_<
L1655[15:43:18] <Wyvern> Well maybe I was ironically not getting your joke :c
L1656[15:43:22] <Inari> payonel: https://github.com/dan200/ComputerCraft/blob/master/src/main/resources/assets/computercraft/lua/rom/apis/parallel
L1657[15:43:57] <Cruor> Wyvern: you wouldnt get your name in there :I
L1658[15:44:01] <Cruor> i know Vexatos from waaaay back
L1659[15:44:09] <Wyvern> [triggered]
L1660[15:44:56] <payonel> ah ok
L1661[15:45:03] <Inari> You can probably copy that to openos mostly as-is even if you realllllly wanted it :P
L1662[15:45:30] <Kilobyte> would anyone be that stupid?
L1663[15:45:33] <Inari> I always kinda hated it because it didn't let me add new coroutines or so
L1664[15:45:39] <Inari> Like
L1665[15:45:51] <payonel> well, openos needs something like fork
L1666[15:45:53] <Inari> After calling waitForany, I couldn't tell it "hey, add this routine too while you're at it"
L1667[15:46:03] <payonel> i won't add this, but i'll definitely put on my todo to have something like fork
L1668[15:46:15] <Wyvern> like... C fork ?
L1669[15:46:28] <Inari> How would you even fork in lua
L1670[15:46:29] <Wyvern> Didn't we come up with something better since 1980 ?
L1671[15:46:35] <Wyvern> :s
L1672[15:46:35] <Vexatos> payonel, OpenerOS
L1673[15:46:38] <Kilobyte> fork would actually be possible
L1674[15:46:39] <Cruor> Vexatos: so you are trying to tell me, i am actually getting a railgun drone? :>
L1675[15:46:47] <Kilobyte> using eris and some hackery
L1676[15:46:50] <Vexatos> Cruor, m a y b e
L1677[15:46:54] <Cruor> nice!
L1678[15:46:58] * Cruor cuddles Vexatos
L1679[15:47:02] <Cruor> all homo if applicable
L1680[15:47:06] <Vexatos> If I get Sangar to get back to OC
L1681[15:47:20] <Vexatos> Because half of this stuff I cannot code
L1682[15:47:20] <payonel> Wyvern: 1. i said "like" and 2. youre taking things too literally
L1683[15:47:39] <payonel> Inari: just thinking of a way to schedule a job and have it run to fruition
L1684[15:47:40] <Wyvern> You got me worried there
L1685[15:47:53] <payonel> it's an interesting idea, i have some research to do
L1686[15:48:04] <Inari> Wyvern: Whats wrong with c fork?
L1687[15:48:09] <payonel> Wyvern: and also that ^
L1688[15:48:22] <Skye> Inari, it requires an MMU
L1689[15:48:22] <payonel> Wyvern: and also, no need to worry, i know what i'm doing (mostly
L1690[15:49:30] <Kilobyte> Skye: well, with metatable hackery you could probably emulate something somewhat similar
L1691[15:49:51] <Kilobyte> hardest part is getting to the local variables
L1692[15:49:54] <Skye> I was talking about C fork in general
L1693[15:50:04] <Skye> but yeah that'd also be a Lua problem maybe
L1694[15:50:07] <Kilobyte> and fork IS possible without MMU
L1695[15:50:13] <Kilobyte> it is just slow af
L1696[15:50:23] <Vexatos> does that sound about right >_> https://www.reddit.com/r/feedthebeast/comments/68mrpr/computercraft_is_now_open_source/dh01d1f/
L1697[15:50:38] * AshIndigo finises reading the backlog
L1698[15:50:57] <gamax92> asie: https://i.imgur.com/MCYONBM.png
L1699[15:51:06] <Vexatos> gamax92, aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
L1700[15:51:09] <Wyvern> payonel: C fork is c fork, there's nothing wrong with it, it's just pretty rough
L1701[15:51:12] * AshIndigo hides with a tablet
L1702[15:51:14] <gamax92> look at that beauty of a computer
L1703[15:51:19] <asie> gamax92: wait what
L1704[15:51:22] <asie> oh, NedoC
L1705[15:51:26] <gamax92> no
L1706[15:51:27] <gamax92> not nedo
L1707[15:51:32] <asie> wait what
L1708[15:51:32] <gamax92> real rp2
L1709[15:51:35] <AshIndigo> Holy hell is that the rp2 co.outer?
L1710[15:51:36] <asie> what
L1711[15:51:52] <Inari> Vexatos: You forgot thistle
L1712[15:52:00] <Vexatos> a what
L1713[15:52:03] <payonel> Wyvern: yeah, i didn't mean to implement fork, i misspoke
L1714[15:52:05] <Wyvern> Vexatos: Yes that's a good answer
L1715[15:52:09] <gamax92> asie: http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/mapping-and-modding/minecraft-mods/wip-mods/2360685-i
L1716[15:52:15] <payonel> Vexatos: i like it
L1717[15:52:16] <asie> oh
L1718[15:52:18] <asie> that meme
L1719[15:52:56] <Inari> ~markov LuMistry
L1720[15:52:57] <ocdoc> Please wait ...
L1721[15:53:01] <ocdoc> Also, CompanionCube, I kind of just going to meet you payonel ?
L1722[15:53:08] <gamax92> it kinda sucks, the computer doesn't run properly under it and spits out some garage on boot
L1723[15:53:29] <payonel> two door garage?
L1724[15:53:33] <AshIndigo> ~markov AshIndigo
L1725[15:53:33] <ocdoc> Please wait ...
L1726[15:53:35] <ocdoc> %ram
L1727[15:53:39] <gamax92> cursor doesn't get placed in the right spot
L1728[15:53:39] <MichiBot> ocdoc: Used RAM: 15.4 MB
L1729[15:53:40] <Inari> Heh
L1730[15:53:41] <Inari> %ram
L1731[15:53:45] <MichiBot> Inari: You do not have sufficient privileges to use this command.
L1732[15:53:48] <Skye> Kilobyte, true... you'd need to memcpy every context switch
L1733[15:53:49] <AshIndigo> :D
L1734[15:53:58] <payonel> ha
L1735[15:54:02] <Inari> Haha
L1736[15:54:06] <gamax92> HahaHa
L1737[15:54:14] <payonel> %touch
L1738[15:54:20] <payonel> >_>
L1739[15:54:24] <AshIndigo> %badtouch
L1740[15:54:26] <Inari> ~markov %test
L1741[15:54:26] <ocdoc> Please wait ...
L1742[15:54:26] <Kilobyte> Skye: actually no, only upon fork()
L1743[15:54:28] <ocdoc> Nickname does not exist
L1744[15:54:36] <Kilobyte> you copy the entire memory space of the process once
L1745[15:54:51] <Kilobyte> (without MMU processes are a fucking pain tho)
L1746[15:55:17] <payonel> i seriously did not mean fork, i'm so sorry
L1747[15:55:29] <payonel> -_-
L1748[15:55:44] <Inari> You now did
L1749[15:56:13] <Skye> payonel, It's an interesting technical problem to consider though
L1750[15:56:35] <Inari> To be fair
L1751[15:56:36] <payonel> true
L1752[15:56:41] <Inari> I always found fork a bit of an odd way to go about things
L1753[15:56:42] <Inari> :P
L1754[15:57:03] <Inari> Like, why copy the entire memory space if you might not need that much :|
L1755[15:57:29] <payonel> Inari: i agree, it's a bit weird
L1756[15:57:52] <payonel> i was misusing the term fork for what i was thinking
L1757[15:58:21] <payonel> the ONLY similarity that caused the word association for my unchecked comment was, "run code on separate process"
L1758[15:59:24] <Inari> Well we're talking about fork now though
L1759[15:59:25] <Inari> :P
L1760[15:59:47] <Kilobyte> Inari: fork actually doesn't copy any data
L1761[15:59:54] <Kilobyte> at least not on any reasonable os
L1762[16:00:00] <Inari> :p
L1763[16:00:15] <Inari> What does it do then? copy on write?
L1764[16:00:20] <Kilobyte> yup
L1765[16:00:37] <Inari> Hm, still, don't you ahv eto reserve a memory space of a given size
L1766[16:00:39] <Kilobyte> it flags all pages as readonly and when a page fault occurs because the page was written, the kernel copies it
L1767[16:01:02] <Kilobyte> and both processes initially have the very same memory maps
L1768[16:01:14] <Skye> problems without an MMU
L1769[16:01:15] <Skye> malloc
L1770[16:01:22] <Skye> :P
L1771[16:01:31] <gamax92> ~markov Skye
L1772[16:01:31] <ocdoc> So Izaya summoned the ping?
L1773[16:01:36] <Kilobyte> not so much malloc
L1774[16:01:39] <Vexatos> the heck is markov
L1775[16:01:56] <gamax92> something I'm debating removing
L1776[16:02:01] <Kilobyte> malloc does not actually allocate memory from the kernel from what i stand
L1777[16:02:12] <Kilobyte> not directly at least
L1778[16:02:22] <Inari> gamax92: removing what/
L1779[16:02:32] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBYNPxLe8QE
L1780[16:02:32] <MichiBot> 10 Things You Didn’t Know About Megumin! - KonoSuba Facts & Trivia | length: 11m 46s | Likes: 2,741 Dislikes: 168 Views: 180,249 | by Foxen Anime | Published On 29/3/2017
L1781[16:02:34] <gamax92> markov
L1782[16:02:37] <Skye> in general malloc is annoying
L1783[16:02:38] <Kilobyte> instead it allocates from a pool given by the kernel. And once that is exhausted it requests a pool size increase
L1784[16:02:39] <gamax92> needs work
L1785[16:02:41] <Inari> gamax92: But why
L1786[16:02:46] <gamax92> okay fine
L1787[16:03:01] <Skye> Kilobyte, say on a limited memory system with no MMU and no way to remap memory?
L1788[16:03:05] <Inari> ~markov ocdoc
L1789[16:03:05] <ocdoc> Please wait ...
L1790[16:03:08] <Skye> fragmentation of RAM
L1791[16:03:08] <Kilobyte> hmmm
L1792[16:03:08] <ocdoc> It's your birthday
L1793[16:03:18] <Inari> ~markov MichiBot
L1794[16:03:18] <ocdoc> Please wait ...
L1795[16:03:21] <ocdoc> Vexatos: Sangar will be notified of this message when next seen.
L1796[16:03:25] <gamax92> lol
L1797[16:03:31] <Skye> ~markov gamax92
L1798[16:03:32] <Kilobyte> actually yeah, fork is impossible with that, unless you have some kind of segmentation in hardware
L1799[16:03:32] <ocdoc> yeah Thistle in OCEmu prepacked zip's are for a geolyzer doesn't understand
L1800[16:04:00] <Kilobyte> and processes are really painful too without and require cooperation from the process
L1801[16:04:09] <Kilobyte> lets not do that :D
L1802[16:04:10] <Vexatos> ~markov Vexatos
L1803[16:04:12] <ocdoc> nah there's a drone's energy storage place for 6 hours
L1804[16:04:20] <Vexatos> what is this.
L1805[16:04:29] <Cruor> ~markov Cruor
L1806[16:04:29] <ocdoc> drones op ftw :>
L1807[16:04:36] <Vexatos> this is so cruor
L1808[16:04:37] <Cruor> i would never say that!
L1809[16:04:40] <Inari> Pretty good Cruor impression
L1810[16:04:46] <Vexatos> the :> makes it
L1811[16:04:50] <Inari> Yep
L1812[16:04:55] <Skye> Kilobyte, also malloc in general is risky. there's no way to unlock memory to keep data but let the kernel move it.
L1813[16:04:56] <Cruor> okay... maybe
L1814[16:05:02] <Cruor> ~markov Cruor
L1815[16:05:02] <ocdoc> sold 5.3k fire runes for 1.1m
L1816[16:05:06] <Cruor> okay
L1817[16:05:10] <Cruor> this thing knows its ch't
L1818[16:05:16] <Inari> Itc ant' mimi cmy prefce typing though
L1819[16:05:25] <Kilobyte> Skye: thats why fork() requires seqmentation i such case
L1820[16:05:30] <Inari> %quote Inari
L1821[16:05:31] <Cruor> Inari: stop raceconditioning the keys D:
L1822[16:05:34] <MichiBot> Quote #139: <Inari> goes to find thes oruce
L1823[16:05:35] <Kilobyte> segmentation == your memory is split into banks
L1824[16:05:44] <Kilobyte> and there is a register or so to select the current bank
L1825[16:05:54] <Inari> Oh well
L1826[16:05:58] <Inari> Last one from me for tonight
L1827[16:05:58] <Inari> ~markov MichiBot
L1828[16:05:59] <ocdoc> Inari: Sangar will be notified of this message when next seen.
L1829[16:06:04] <Inari> It like Sangar
L1830[16:06:15] <Cruor> Vexatos: BIASED
L1831[16:06:17] <Cruor> ITS BIASED
L1832[16:06:19] <Cruor> I TOLD YOU
L1833[16:06:32] <gamax92> ~markov MichiBot
L1834[16:06:33] <ocdoc> Xal: Hitler on C++17 | length: 12s | length: 51s | Likes: 0 Dislikes: 0 Views: 6 | length: 1h, 28m 9s | Likes:
L1835[16:06:41] <Cruor> uhhhh
L1836[16:06:47] <Inari> Heh
L1837[16:06:50] <Vexatos> Cruor, this is a different bot
L1838[16:06:56] <Cruor> ill just go to bed before the lewdpolice is on my door
L1839[16:06:58] <Cruor> oh
L1840[16:07:01] <Cruor> right
L1841[16:07:11] <Kilobyte> night o/
L1842[16:07:20] <Inari> Those hitler videos are only half as good since I understand the actual spoken thing :|
L1843[16:07:36] <Kilobyte> Inari: yep
L1844[16:07:46] <Vexatos> payonel, you might want to elaborate on what coroutines actually are on that reddit comment :P
L1845[16:07:53] <Vexatos> as opposed to parallel
L1846[16:07:54] <Vexatos> >_>
L1847[16:08:09] <gamax92> or that parallel is truly not parallel
L1848[16:08:10] <Inari> parallel is just a coroutine wrapper
L1849[16:08:20] <Vexatos> gamax92, it is more... well
L1850[16:08:22] <Vexatos> coroutines
L1851[16:08:26] <Vexatos> serial
L1852[16:08:41] <Vexatos> two things run in parallel, but only one at a time
L1853[16:08:49] <Wyvern> Inari: Which is what he misses
L1854[16:08:59] <Vexatos> someone please clarify that
L1855[16:09:03] <payonel> yeah, however it is ok to use the term parallel for coroutines, though that is misleading
L1856[16:09:03] <Vexatos> I already have way too many comments there
L1857[16:09:13] <payonel> "concurrent" coroutines are not
L1858[16:09:19] <Wyvern> ya gonna have to write one more Vexatos
L1859[16:09:22] <Wyvern> Because I replied :D
L1860[16:09:28] <gamax92> ~markov payonel
L1861[16:09:28] <ocdoc> java.lang.NoSuchFieldError: iron
L1862[16:09:38] <payonel> just link the parallel code in cc to that threads
L1863[16:09:55] <payonel> and say "here are your stupid first class citizen coroutines"
L1864[16:11:09] <Wyvern> And he's gonna say
L1865[16:11:11] <Wyvern> "Yep"
L1866[16:11:16] <Wyvern> "why isn't it in OC"
L1867[16:11:28] <gamax92> "git gud scrub"
L1868[16:11:48] <Wyvern> I mean if he likes the stupid wrapper let him enjoy the damn wrapper
L1869[16:11:59] <Wyvern> Why couldn't he complain about the wrapper
L1870[16:12:08] <Wyvern> :')
L1871[16:12:29] <payonel> Wyvern: the issue for me, is that openos is my baby, and he called it ugly :) and accused openos (me, by proxy) of making coroutines crap
L1872[16:12:51] <payonel> which i didn't do - so i got a touch defensive (which is a bit immature, i know ^.^ )
L1873[16:12:57] <Wyvern> just tell him "ayy we don't have the wrapper sry m8"
L1874[16:13:09] <Wyvern> "i don't know why you need it so much but we don't have it"
L1875[16:13:16] <Inari> ~oc event api
L1876[16:13:16] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/api:event
L1877[16:13:43] <Vexatos> payonel, got some free time right now?
L1878[16:13:49] <Vexatos> how about you quickly port https://github.com/alekso56/ComputercraftLua/blob/master/rom/apis/parallel
L1879[16:13:54] <Vexatos> just to prove a point, kthx
L1880[16:13:58] <payonel> haha
L1881[16:14:08] <Vexatos> you're more qualified for this than me
L1882[16:14:13] <Vexatos> and it's not 11 p.m. for you
L1883[16:14:18] <Wyvern> that guy has no idea how butthurt he made you for a damn wrapper
L1884[16:14:33] <gamax92> ~markov Vexatos
L1885[16:14:34] <ocdoc> depends on again? 4?
L1886[16:14:44] <Vexatos> Wyvern, when you spend months writing an operating system and people yell at you for a missing feature that's not even that useful
L1887[16:14:51] <Wyvern> Yeah you care, that's pretty cool
L1888[16:15:09] <payonel> years, even
L1889[16:15:10] <Wyvern> to be honest you should just tell him there's no wrapper
L1890[16:15:14] <Vexatos> payonel, true
L1891[16:15:15] <Wyvern> he's the only one to give a shit
L1892[16:15:34] <Wyvern> litterally the first time I've heard that complaint
L1893[16:16:01] <Kilobyte> parallel is also really annoying to use
L1894[16:16:12] <Kilobyte> a PROPER process management would be far superior
L1895[16:16:28] <Kilobyte> where you can add processes at any point
L1896[16:16:38] <Kilobyte> besides: events.
L1897[16:16:38] <Skye> payonel, make a OpenOS internals book
L1898[16:16:46] <gamax92> yeah but anything is better than nothing
L1899[16:16:49] <Wyvern> The guy is probably aware of how meaningless the complaint is and has no idea there's 3 guys on IRC being full on triggered by it
L1900[16:17:26] <Inari> https://www.reddit.com/r/feedthebeast/comments/68mrpr/computercraft_is_now_open_source/dh030hg/ not sure if that would work :P
L1901[16:17:47] <payonel> Wyvern: not full trigger :) I'm okay, honestly
L1902[16:17:48] <Kilobyte> Skye: cc payonel i would totally read that :D
L1903[16:17:49] <payonel> i just care
L1904[16:17:59] <payonel> Kilobyte: haha it would be fun to write
L1905[16:18:12] <AmandaC> Wyvern: your nick sounds familiar. Didn't I ban you from #computercraft for constantly starting shit like this?
L1906[16:18:23] <gamax92> Inari: succ
L1907[16:18:24] <Wyvern> AmandaC: No
L1908[16:18:24] <Kilobyte> payonel: also a good way to practice LaTeX
L1909[16:18:37] <Wyvern> AmandaC: I'm on it right now and I"ve never been banned from it
L1910[16:18:44] <Inari> gamax92: :P
L1911[16:18:56] <Inari> gamax92: CASUC
L1912[16:19:15] <Wyvern> I do however tend to constantly start shit like this
L1913[16:19:28] <Vexatos> Inari, test it in ocvm!
L1914[16:19:36] <Inari> link me ocvm
L1915[16:19:37] <Inari> :p
L1916[16:19:58] <gamax92> Inari: don't know what that means
L1917[16:19:59] <Vexatos> https://github.com/payonel/ocvm
L1918[16:20:13] <gamax92> all i find are ic2 reactors
L1919[16:20:29] <Skye> one of the main reasons why OC isn't like CC is because it didn't want to be a blatent rip off of CC! :P
L1920[16:20:42] <Inari> gamax92: those
L1921[16:21:00] <Inari> gamax92: Or do you mean what succ means?
L1922[16:21:29] <Inari> Vexatos: No release, no win binary
L1923[16:21:36] <xarses_> ugh, I just read over dan's license *barfs*
L1924[16:21:49] <Vexatos> xarses_, it doesn't work
L1925[16:21:51] <Kilobyte> xarses_: there are worse ones tbh
L1926[16:21:53] <Wyvern> AmandaC: But... you're not on #ComputerCraft ?
L1927[16:21:54] <Vexatos> asie can tell you about it
L1928[16:22:00] <Vexatos> the license is invalid
L1929[16:22:06] <Vexatos> and, well
L1930[16:22:07] <Vexatos> just stupid
L1931[16:22:08] <xarses_> its not an open source license tbh
L1932[16:22:08] <gamax92> asie: explain?
L1933[16:22:29] <xarses_> dan owns the right to relicense any derivatives
L1934[16:22:38] <payonel> ha wat
L1935[16:22:54] <Kilobyte> xarses_: huh, where does it say that?
L1936[16:23:02] * Kilobyte only skimmed over it
L1937[16:23:13] <Kilobyte> (is that even the right term)
L1938[16:23:50] <xarses_> the derivative work clause requires his license, and the contributing clause gives him rights to re-license anything added under this license
L1939[16:25:20] <gamax92> "If you choose to contribute code or assets to be included in this mod, you agree that, if added to to the main repository at https://github.com/dan200/ComputerCraft, your contributions will be covered by this license, and that Daniel Ratcliffe will retain the right to re-license the mod, including your contributions, in part or in whole, under other licenses."
L1940[16:25:22] <xarses_> also, section 6 is simply missing
L1941[16:25:46] <20kdc> gamax92: see: aseprite license.
L1942[16:26:01] <20kdc> gamax92: this isn't the first time someone has pulled that kind of nastiness
L1943[16:26:20] <20kdc> someone used a CLA to relicense from GPL to "well you can distribute the code, but *compiled builds* can't be"
L1944[16:26:20] <Vexatos> doesn't mean the license applies to any fork
L1945[16:26:22] <xarses_> "5. Distribution of original or modified copy rights
L1946[16:26:22] <xarses_> " ... "All distributions of this mod must remain licensed under the CCPL. "
L1947[16:26:33] <Vexatos> yep
L1948[16:26:37] <Vexatos> Now you call it CC2
L1949[16:26:40] <Vexatos> and it's not this mod anymore
L1950[16:26:51] <Vexatos> as I said, the license is inherently invalid by ambiguitzy
L1951[16:26:58] <20kdc> Yay for what I would define as a loophole, thankfully.
L1952[16:27:02] <20kdc> Still.
L1953[16:27:03] <Vexatos> I'd like to see it go through any court
L1954[16:27:13] <AmandaC> Wyvern: I got sick of hurding cats, left
L1955[16:27:28] <xarses_> Vexatos: ambiguity would not make the license invalid
L1956[16:27:34] <Inari> Doesn't OpenOs have a paralell-like builtin anyway though
L1957[16:27:40] <Wyvern> AmandaC: I don't really remember you and I recently changed my name anyway :)
L1958[16:27:43] <Vexatos> it would by creating an infinite amount of loopholes :P
L1959[16:27:49] <xarses_> it would be up to the jury / judge to interpert it
L1960[16:28:38] <xarses_> no, that can make it un-enforceable, not invalid
L1961[16:28:49] <Vexatos> well yea
L1962[16:28:50] <Inari> Hm guess not
L1963[16:28:54] <Vexatos> That is almost the same thing anyway
L1964[16:29:06] <Inari> I thought putting & worked in openos
L1965[16:29:06] <Inari> :P
L1966[16:29:26] <XDjackieXD> So I should be able to fork, rename & relicense? :>
L1967[16:29:41] <xarses_> no, invalid means summary judgement, in enforcable means long trial and judgement
L1968[16:29:59] <xarses_> they are not nearly the same thing if you go to court
L1969[16:30:13] <Vexatos> "After all, we are wasting our time talking about mods of a game in which mods are a legal grey area anyway"
L1970[16:30:15] <Vexatos> case closed
L1971[16:30:17] <Vexatos> thanks
L1972[16:30:27] * AmandaC realises what Wyvern is doing, goes off to play more Mario kart
L1973[16:30:27] * Vexatos walks away.
L1974[16:30:49] <xarses_> XDjackieXD: fork, retain your changes and not have the author give it away under a different license that you didn't sign up for, yes
L1975[16:31:12] <XDjackieXD> ah ok
L1976[16:31:14] <Wyvern> ...what did I do again ?
L1977[16:33:04] <xarses_> Vexatos: the validity of the mod existing or not is between each party and M$. It's existance still has very legal rights under copy-right law
L1978[16:33:41] <Vexatos> Wyvern, responded :I
L1979[16:34:24] <Wyvern> Vexatos: Welp
L1980[16:34:35] <Wyvern> I tried :P
L1981[16:34:43] <Vexatos> a basic robot is literally cheaper than CC on anything but iron
L1982[16:34:50] <Vexatos> maybe even that, to be honest
L1983[16:34:57] <Vexatos> considering a turtle uses seven ingots
L1984[16:35:32] <Wyvern> What about programming it and charging it
L1985[16:35:37] <Wyvern> You need a bit of infrastructure
L1986[16:35:41] <Vexatos> generator upgrade
L1987[16:35:44] <Vexatos> uses coal to make power
L1988[16:35:50] <Vexatos> sounds familiar?
L1989[16:35:53] <Wyvern> Oh I hadn't thought of that
L1990[16:35:58] <Wyvern> that works
L1991[16:36:41] <Vexatos> programming? Well you _can_ add a screen... Or you write the program onto the hard drive before installing it... Or you do not give it a hard drive at all and give it a disk drive instead
L1992[16:36:55] <Vexatos> so you can have it run software directly from a floppy with the program on it
L1993[16:36:57] <Vexatos> so you can change it
L1994[16:37:13] <Vexatos> the easiest option would obviously be a screen and a keyboard
L1995[16:37:19] <Vexatos> which would still just be a little more stone and iron
L1996[16:38:00] <Inari> Ah right, thers one issue with my parallel for OpenOS :P
L1997[16:38:31] <Inari> os.sleep in the subroutine makes it sleep and continue, rather than sleep and return to the caller
L1998[16:40:46] <Wyvern> What do you mean ?
L1999[16:41:30] <Wyvern> I don't get it. It continues after the sleep, within the caller
L2000[16:42:09] <Inari> the sub-coroutine calls os.sleep, which calls event.pull, which pulls signals with computer.pullSignal. Then event.pull returns, os.sleep returns, and it goes on
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L2002[16:42:45] <Inari> It just doesn't work well with CC's parallel appraoch :P
L2003[16:44:10] <Inari> CC was more like. the sub-coroutine yields on sleeping, returning a timeout value or something like that.
L2004[16:44:42] <Wyvern> right
L2005[16:49:38] <xarses_> so payonel, I was playing with the numbers, we should probably scale back the energy cost for t2 and t3 screens
L2006[16:50:27] <xarses_> it gets absurdly expensive to work with 8000 pixels
L2007[16:51:38] <Vexatos> if you change them all at the same time
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L2009[16:52:16] <xarses_> even 1/3 of the screen pulls 533 rf
L2010[16:52:45] <xarses_> so using frames and stuf and pop up windows.. ie most of a gui
L2011[16:53:04] <xarses_> something like midnight commander would burn crap tons of energy
L2012[16:54:33] <xarses_> I think its fair to say that a higher resolution gets more pixels but is more energy efficient per pixel
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L2014[16:55:49] <Wyvern> I think I was using a tier 3 GPU and screen when I tested my enderchest scanner
L2015[16:55:55] <Wyvern> in default resolution
L2016[16:56:06] <Wyvern> which is where I pulled the 500rf/t figure from
L2017[16:56:26] <Wyvern> but I didn't properly measure it it just *seemed* to be 500
L2018[16:56:51] <xarses_> well if you update 1/3 of the screen a tick, ya thats fair
L2019[16:57:24] <Wyvern> let me check
L2020[16:57:28] <Vexatos> Imagine if you redraw even the pixels that do not change
L2021[16:57:36] <Vexatos> That would be bad code and nothing else
L2022[16:57:51] <Wyvern> I basically cleared it and rewrote everything every tick
L2023[16:57:58] <Wyvern> But it was ~3 lines of text
L2024[16:57:59] <Vexatos> well that explains it :I
L2025[16:58:08] <Vexatos> totally your fault then :P
L2026[16:58:31] <Wyvern> Probably is. I didn't think it impacted the power draw
L2027[16:58:55] <xarses_> well, I don't think updating via set (the most expensive) 1/3 of the screen isn't absurd
L2028[16:58:55] <Magik6k> Cruor, Just checked, cc emulator works for me: https://assets.magik6k.net/screenshoots/b86dd5bf-135e-4f96-91f3-84204987216b.png
L2029[16:59:06] <Wyvern> That's neat, it forces people to optimize
L2030[16:59:07] <Magik6k> (You need CPU set to Lua 5.2)
L2031[16:59:38] <Wyvern> I don't think i've seen it mentionned in the doc
L2032[16:59:56] <Wyvern> Where did I miss it ?
L2033[17:00:14] <xarses_> Wyvern: which?
L2034[17:00:20] <payonel> Inari: openos has popen
L2035[17:00:29] <Inari> ?
L2036[17:00:42] <Inari> process is a weird lib btw :P
L2037[17:00:47] <Wyvern> xarses_: anything telling me "hey when you write stuff on the screen the GPU draws more power"
L2038[17:00:57] <Wyvern> cuz it's pretty neat
L2039[17:00:58] <Vexatos> Wyvern, anything in OC uses power
L2040[17:01:04] <Inari> local a_co = process.info(2).data.coroutine_handler.create(a, false I have no clue what I'm doing :D
L2041[17:01:07] <Vexatos> everything and anything
L2042[17:01:13] <Vexatos> varying amounts
L2043[17:01:22] <Vexatos> But there is nothing that does not use power
L2044[17:01:32] <Vexatos> Some things just use more than others
L2045[17:01:33] <payonel> Inari: the coroutine_handler is just coroutine
L2046[17:01:33] <Wyvern> Crazy
L2047[17:01:39] <Magik6k> OpenOS multiprocessing is higher level of magic
L2048[17:01:40] <payonel> Inari: unless you are doing fancy popen
L2049[17:01:40] <xarses_> Wyvern: It's buried in the config file and hinted at in the docs
L2050[17:01:41] <Inari> :P
L2051[17:01:46] <Vexatos> as I said, sleeping for instance makes it use 10% of the normal power
L2052[17:01:55] <Inari> CAn popen even run functions
L2053[17:02:03] <Vexatos> So updating less frequently is a massive power saver already
L2054[17:02:07] <payonel> popen runs shell commands
L2055[17:02:24] <Wyvern> Vexatos: I saw that but I thought that was just a simple modifier
L2056[17:02:34] <payonel> f=io.popen("./my_script.lua")
L2057[17:02:40] <Wyvern> As in "hey your computer takes a constant amount of RF/t and sleeping multiplies that by 0.1"
L2058[17:02:43] <Vexatos> GPU calls draw additional power
L2059[17:02:45] <Magik6k> In plan9k you can os.spawn functions to get 'threads'
L2060[17:02:53] <Wyvern> But that's pretty cool
L2061[17:02:56] <Inari> payonel: Hm
L2062[17:03:02] <Inari> But its a pain to have to maek a new file for it :D
L2063[17:03:03] <Wyvern> favorite feature right after os.beep for me
L2064[17:03:07] <Inari> and you can't string.dump
L2065[17:03:20] <Vexatos> Wyvern, you should try the beep, noise and sound card :I
L2066[17:03:25] <Vexatos> They're in Computronics, by the way >_>
L2067[17:03:36] <Vexatos> (I need more testers)
L2068[17:03:49] <xarses_> Wyvern:
L2069[17:03:50] <Inari> payonel: I'm just trying to figure out how to make a CC parallel approach work in openOS :P
L2070[17:03:52] <Vexatos> %tell fingercomp nice blog post on tronics there, thanks
L2071[17:03:53] <MichiBot> Vexatos: fingercomp will be notified of this message when next seen.
L2072[17:03:58] <xarses_> Wyvern: , https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/blob/5105266f90905a767e5df3938d78fc7162d3e201/src/main/resources/application.conf#L627-L684
L2073[17:04:34] <xarses_> Wyvern: if you make an issue on https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers asking to update the wiki for power information regarding that, I'll get to it
L2074[17:04:40] <gamax92> ~markov MichiBot
L2075[17:04:40] <ocdoc> Monty Python - Spam | length 1m 36s | Likes: 489 Dislikes: 9 Views: 76697 | length: 3m 3s | length: 1m
L2076[17:05:39] <xarses_> It's nice how a single flaming post ignites this channel =)
L2077[17:06:13] <Magik6k> Inari, AFAIK computer.pullSignal 'buble' through coroutine stuff, so it's probably very hard
L2078[17:06:16] <xarses_> but in a collaborative response =)
L2079[17:06:28] <Inari> Magik6k: Yeah :s
L2080[17:06:29] <payonel> Inari: the trouble i see is that ... in openos -- any coroutine can block on event.pull(event_name), because event.pull(event_name) calls computer.pullSignal -- which blocks that coroutine, it doesn't yield up a level within openos
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L2082[17:06:45] <payonel> Magik6k: ^
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L2084[17:06:56] <Inari> Well I seem to recall some bubbling up, but maybe thats cahnged
L2085[17:06:56] <gamax92> ~markov xarses
L2086[17:06:56] <ocdoc> Please wait ...
L2087[17:06:59] <ocdoc> I wasn't able to work and yank lines
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L2089[17:07:08] <xarses_> markov ?
L2090[17:07:17] <Vexatos> ~markov xarses_
L2091[17:07:17] <ocdoc> Please wait ...
L2092[17:07:20] <ocdoc> On a thing for the redstone card
L2093[17:07:34] <Vexatos> ~markov Sangar
L2094[17:07:34] <ocdoc> Please wait ...
L2095[17:07:37] <ocdoc> Kilobyte, err, it will only be hilarious
L2096[17:07:42] <Vexatos> ok
L2097[17:07:43] <Inari> payonel: It's mostly that it seems to yield up to the PC instead of just going up one
L2098[17:07:44] <payonel> Inari: there was some old code i inherited that has bubbling of even data --- but it isn't compatible with event.pull
L2099[17:07:45] <Magik6k> My CC emulator can make use of original lib as it runs the emulator in a coroutine and simulates CC behaviour
L2100[17:07:51] <Vexatos> gamax92, don't let Kodos see this
L2101[17:08:10] <Wyvern> xarses_: Some people might call it a troll move to have linked it here, but I really just wanted you people to have a chance at responding
L2102[17:08:34] <Wyvern> Because I knew that post wasn't flawless when I wrote it
L2103[17:08:35] <Vexatos> Someone else would have posted it anyway
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L2105[17:08:44] <xarses_> As long as you are ok with being wrong =P
L2106[17:08:57] <Vexatos> problem is that reddit people only ever read the top level comments
L2107[17:08:58] <xarses_> I do agree we have adoption issues
L2108[17:08:58] <Vexatos> :P
L2109[17:08:59] <Wyvern> I'm most OK with being wrong
L2110[17:09:23] <Vexatos> So whatever's written in the first comment is what people read
L2111[17:09:31] <payonel> Inari: anyways, this is a start: https://hastebin.com/vozusihata.lua
L2112[17:09:35] <xarses_> even though OC has objectively more features, and is subjectively better
L2113[17:09:42] <payonel> Inari: but to get better event handling, i would have to change /lib/event.lua
L2114[17:09:46] <Vexatos> That's why people edit posts to correct themselves, after all
L2115[17:09:58] <Wyvern> problem is the comment under my post
L2116[17:10:03] <Wyvern> with the thread shit
L2117[17:10:08] <Vexatos> yeeea
L2118[17:10:12] <Wyvern> It seems technical and nice and it gained traction
L2119[17:10:21] <Wyvern> overshadowing the proper answers below
L2120[17:10:22] <Vexatos> and is long
L2121[17:10:27] <Vexatos> for such a small sisue
L2122[17:10:29] <Vexatos> issue*
L2123[17:10:33] <Wyvern> nobody cares jeez
L2124[17:10:53] <xarses_> arguably, its a problem in OpenOS, not OpenComputers =P
L2125[17:10:57] <Wyvern> and of course the answer to that is also technical which means nobody really knows who's right in there
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L2127[17:11:12] <payonel> Wyvern: which is yours (linky?)
L2128[17:11:24] <Vexatos> He's TheBestO(pi)nion
L2129[17:11:35] <Wyvern> Hey you know my other reddit name
L2130[17:11:57] <Wyvern> https://www.reddit.com/r/feedthebeast/comments/68mrpr/computercraft_is_now_open_source/dgzuzs7/
L2131[17:11:58] <Wyvern> linky
L2132[17:12:03] <Michiyo> http://puu.sh/vCxGe/a4d6cd7286.png Cause why the fuck not.
L2133[17:15:26] <payonel> ok wow, that was a distractin
L2134[17:15:32] <Skye> payonel: ha we both say linky
L2135[17:15:34] <payonel> +o
L2136[17:16:07] * payonel shares linkies with Skye
L2137[17:16:20] <rashy> XD
L2138[17:17:05] <Skye> Hah
L2139[17:17:33] <Skye> Someone: something
L2140[17:17:40] <Skye> Me: linky?
L2141[17:17:51] <Skye> Someone: Wat
L2142[17:18:48] <Wyvern> payonel: sorry o/
L2143[17:20:19] <payonel> Wyvern: it's okay :)
L2144[17:23:09] <ocdoc> :/ I had beforehand, adding mods on that OC standard testing more combinations should also thats melting
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L2146[17:24:36] <Magik6k> ~w go home
L2147[17:24:36] <ocdoc> Predicted http://ocd.cil.li/component:gpu
L2148[17:25:11] <ocdoc> Please wait ...
L2149[17:25:16] <ocdoc> and from other neat things I discovered that version packaged by ubuntu fault?
L2150[17:25:20] <gamax92> ahh you piece of shit
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L2152[17:29:06] <MalkContent> lol
L2153[17:29:11] <MalkContent> me linky <3
L2154[17:30:30] <Kilobyte> gonna go for the night, getting kinda late and i got lecture 8 am
L2155[17:30:32] <gamax92> Inari: I see you ran into some openos issue?
L2156[17:30:46] <Kilobyte> gotta get up 6:45 - which is in 6:15
L2157[17:31:31] <Inari> gamax92: It's just not structured for CC's idea of a parallel API
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L2160[17:36:49] <ocdoc> Shit, I can see the roman empire :x I tend to know what I
L2161[17:37:40] <gamax92> %choose vanilla or chocolate
L2162[17:37:42] <MichiBot> gamax92: chocolate
L2163[17:39:40] <Kilobyte> s/chocolate/modded/
L2164[17:39:40] <MichiBot> <gamax92: > modded
L2165[17:39:50] <Kilobyte> i THINK that is a bug
L2166[17:40:01] <Kilobyte> Michiyo: ^
L2167[17:42:08] <gamax92> Kilobyte: what does modded icecream taste like?
L2168[17:42:25] <gamax92> will eating it crash my body?
L2169[17:42:36] <Skye> ~markov ocdoc
L2170[17:42:36] <ocdoc> Predicted http://www.lua.org/manual/5.2/manual.html#pdf-error ( I tried D: )
L2171[17:42:58] <Izaya> markov bot now?
L2172[17:43:05] <Izaya> ~markov Skye
L2173[17:43:05] <ocdoc> oppm install into a bunker for me to learn to type I can't afford a VGA converter
L2174[17:43:37] <Skye> ~markov Izaya
L2175[17:43:37] <ocdoc> Please wait ...
L2176[17:43:40] <ocdoc> anything else up at 7 installed as a JS API?
L2177[17:44:29] <Skye> It's annoying. A really good name I thought of I taken by a company in real life. I'm bad at making names...
L2178[17:50:57] <ocdoc> Likewise, this is also buggy and I don't even have 6-digit UIDs.
L2179[17:51:18] <Magik6k> payonel, u still here?
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L2181[17:59:35] <ocdoc> Despite seeing as how cracked is gonna be told you that shit pretty
L2182[18:00:23] <Mimiru> ~markov Corded
L2183[18:00:23] <ocdoc> Please wait ...
L2184[18:00:27] <ocdoc> <Mettaton_Fab> i need to know it's as a PBX with Google
L2185[18:00:34] <Mimiru> lol
L2186[18:12:37] <Skye> ~markov Mimiru
L2187[18:12:37] <ocdoc> Please wait ...
L2188[18:12:41] <ocdoc> I need to get it to get 5.1 to my server is lonely..
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L2192[18:34:49] <gamax92> ~markov moo
L2193[18:34:50] <ocdoc> yawns and curls up in Lizzy's wings. sleepymoomoo
L2194[18:36:49] <Temia> .
L2195[18:37:08] * Temia buries her face in shame /////
L2196[18:37:50] <rashy> :o
L2197[18:39:18] <ocdoc> why muu and not moo-y as Temia, but alas, this is how are you my favourite moo? :P
L2198[18:44:22] * rashy pats Temia
L2199[18:44:24] <Skye> ~markov markov
L2200[18:44:24] <ocdoc> Please wait ...
L2201[18:44:25] <ocdoc> Nickname does not exist
L2202[18:44:30] <Skye> Oh
L2203[18:44:37] <Skye> ~markov rashy
L2204[18:44:37] <ocdoc> Please wait ...
L2205[18:44:38] <ocdoc> oh dear god, no reason why stop at least, I keep randomly stopped working.
L2206[18:44:46] <rashy> xD
L2207[18:44:48] <gamax92> lol
L2208[18:44:53] <Skye> Oh dear.
L2209[18:45:08] <Skye> Anyway
L2210[18:45:11] <Skye> Sleepy time
L2211[18:45:26] <rashy> ciao o/
L2212[18:46:35] <Skye> gamax92: will OCdoc feed itself with its own markov of other people?
L2213[18:47:05] <gamax92> no
L2214[18:48:04] <gamax92> GIGO
L2215[18:48:14] <gamax92> Garbage In Garbage Out
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L2221[19:02:34] <ds84182> ~markov ds84182
L2222[19:02:34] <ocdoc> Just think I know who can do gxt1 things as long as it sounds a little more uniform?
L2223[19:02:45] <ds84182> gxt1...
L2224[19:02:51] <ds84182> those were the days, i think
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L2226[19:11:23] <gamax92> ~markov alekso56
L2227[19:11:23] <ocdoc> Please wait ...
L2228[19:11:26] <ocdoc> the ones i sent in pm ;<
L2229[19:11:36] <ds84182> ~markov ds84182
L2230[19:11:37] <ocdoc> Izaya: my dear lord I am stalkering you look in
L2231[19:11:45] <ds84182> ocdoc why
L2232[19:11:47] <Mimiru> lmao
L2233[19:41:25] <peelz> gamax92: hey, it's me again. I was looking through some list of the supported Unicode glyphs in OC (this one https://oc.cil.li/index.php?/topic/443-comprehensive-unicode-reference-images/ ), but half of the characters I try to use render as a question mark.
L2234[19:49:10] <gamax92> that page is outdated
L2235[19:49:14] <peelz> Aw
L2236[19:49:33] <peelz> What changed?
L2237[19:49:35] <gamax92> and fairly inaccurate for the time it wasn't outdated
L2238[19:49:37] <gamax92> different font
L2239[19:50:29] <gamax92> and is a really poor way to represent unicode ...
L2240[19:51:00] <gamax92> and it's badly sized
L2241[19:51:07] <peelz> So... what font is OC using now? Which variant?
L2242[19:51:34] <gamax92> unscii now, used to be unifont
L2243[19:53:11] <peelz> is there an easy way to display the supported glyphs?
L2244[19:53:27] <vifino> Fuck yeah! I flashed coreboot and cleaned the ME on my thinkpad. <3
L2245[19:53:33] <gamax92> vifino: woo
L2246[19:55:30] <peelz> vifino: ME? as in Intel ME?
L2247[19:55:38] <vifino> yeah.
L2248[19:55:54] <peelz> you can get rid of it? since when?
L2249[19:56:02] <vifino> you can't.
L2250[19:56:08] <vifino> you CAN clean it, however.
L2251[19:56:09] <vifino> https://github.com/corna/me_cleaner
L2252[19:56:23] <vifino> Basically only leaves what is needed to bring up the CPU.
L2253[19:56:53] <peelz> oh cool
L2254[19:56:57] <gamax92> we leave only enough of it so that the Computer is happy and doesn't power your computer off in 30 minutes, and that the user is happy since it's basically non functional
L2255[19:57:27] <peelz> Last time I checked, my CPU wasn't supported. :(
L2256[19:58:55] <vifino> Thinkpad X230 op.
L2257[19:59:06] <vifino> X230t, to be exact.
L2258[19:59:11] <vifino> It's perfect.
L2259[19:59:41] <peelz> Intel ME is kinda scary... last I heard of the people reverse engineering it, they had trouble getting past the compression dictionary burnt into the silicon.
L2260[20:01:35] <vifino> Yeah, it is spooky.
L2261[20:07:04] <vifino> gamax92: thanks to coreboot, i can also finally install a new wifi card in it, double woo.
L2262[20:07:20] <vifino> 802.11ac, much lower ping times! Goodbye, 6mbit/s!
L2263[20:10:49] <ping> pong
L2264[20:11:04] <ping> vifino, unblock me on allo
L2265[20:11:39] <vifino> You're just gonna spam me. q_q
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L2267[20:36:28] <gamax92> peelz: https://i.imgur.com/waNpENG.png here's a chart I made
L2268[20:36:46] <gamax92> I'm going to work on removing the unused rows now
L2269[20:38:59] <peelz> gamax92: nice!
L2270[20:42:48] <Izaya> vifino: semilibreboot on xx20 soon
L2271[20:52:51] <vifino> Izaya: semilibreboot?
L2272[20:52:56] <vifino> pls.
L2273[20:53:02] <vifino> coreboot has a name.
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L2275[20:57:22] <gamax92> peelz: https://i.imgur.com/JASwZRZ.png
L2276[20:58:22] <peelz> gamax92: nice! awesome stuff :)
L2277[20:58:52] <peelz> Not a lot of glyphs in there, I expected to more than that tbh
L2278[20:59:48] <Izaya> vifino: no like mostly libreboot but still can't 100% eliminate the ME firmware
L2279[21:00:18] <peelz> * I expected more than that
L2280[21:02:30] <vifino> Izaya: coreboot op, libreboot bleh.
L2281[21:03:09] <Izaya> leah is libreboot's biggest issue IMO
L2282[21:03:20] <gamax92> peelz: here's why the old post was bad btw, OC can't display unicode code points higher than 65535 or U+FFFF
L2283[21:03:23] <Izaya> that sort of drama isn't on
L2284[21:03:25] <vifino> blobs are useful, you see.
L2285[21:03:43] <gamax92> the old post include all of the characters past U+FFFF
L2286[21:03:47] <vifino> just the right ones, not the bad ones.
L2287[21:05:49] <gamax92> also they put it in decimal for some reason instead of hex >.>
L2288[21:06:59] <vifino> Izaya: I'd personally just use plain coreboot, less BS, you know it works, probably quicker time to get changes, etc..
L2289[21:07:12] <vifino> but YMMV
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L2291[21:11:29] <gamax92> chinese also takes up a gigantic portion of the unicode section
L2292[21:11:59] <peelz> gamax92: oh damn, how come? Does it have something to do with the internal representation of codepoints in the Lua VM or something?
L2293[21:12:25] <gamax92> Java's char is a 16bit unsigned value
L2294[21:12:55] <peelz> oh, right
L2295[21:12:56] <peelz> What about surrogate pairs?
L2296[21:14:12] <gamax92> The screen is just a giant array of char values, so surrogate pairs end up taking two screen characters
L2297[21:14:59] <peelz> hm :/
L2298[21:15:59] <peelz> gamax92: maybe OC could benefit from storing the screen data as an array of strings rather than an array of char
L2299[21:16:42] <gamax92> that would increase memory usage even worse than just storing the screen as an array of ints
L2300[21:17:42] <peelz> Mhm, would it be that bad?
L2301[21:18:12] <peelz> int[] would probably work then... storing everything as UTF-32 or something?
L2302[21:19:16] <gamax92> here's a better question, is there anything of worth in unicode past U+FFFF? Plane 1 has more language symbols and ... emojis. Plane 2 is even more chinese characters, 3-13 are unused, 15 and 16 and private, and not sure what 14 is
L2303[21:19:59] <peelz> Special chars for fancy GUIs?
L2304[21:20:14] <gamax92> there is plenty of that in Plane 0
L2305[21:20:14] <peelz> Depends what Unscii mapped past U+FFFFF
L2306[21:22:29] <peelz> Heh, I guess, but it wouldn't hurt to look into it. I'm curious how it would impact memory usage.
L2307[21:23:02] <gamax92> there are only 91 other characters unscii has and and it's https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taixuanjing and two apples, a cherry, and a left arrow
L2308[21:24:03] <peelz> Oh, whelp, whatever then lol
L2309[21:24:03] <peelz> ...but what if I wanted to render a cherry? :c
L2310[21:29:24] <gamax92> peelz: https://i.imgur.com/mlU9PU2.png it barely looks like a cherry anyway :P
L2311[21:29:54] <peelz> gamax92: wait... how can you even render those?
L2312[21:30:25] <peelz> oh nvm, it's below U+FFFF
L2313[21:31:07] <gamax92> no I just hacked my graphing code to offset the glyphs by 0x10000
L2314[21:31:19] <gamax92> I'm just using a love2d program to read the font.hex :P
L2315[21:31:49] <peelz> ahhh, I was wondering wtf was going on lol
L2316[21:31:57] <gamax92> also that whatever 1f860 is supposed to be a left arrow ... not a rocket?
L2317[21:32:27] <peelz> o.o
L2318[21:34:29] <peelz> gamax92: http://graphemica.com/%F0%9F%A1%A0
L2319[21:34:59] <peelz> gamax92: http://i.imgur.com/pHoJkK8.png using Unscii
L2320[21:35:29] <peelz> :thinking:
L2321[21:36:12] <gamax92> asie: poke
L2322[21:37:23] <gamax92> oh probably asleep
L2323[21:41:29] <peelz> gamax92: looking through your repos on Github... and uh, wine-overwatch?
L2324[21:41:29] <peelz> Does it work?
L2325[21:42:29] <peelz> sounds like risky business lol
L2326[21:44:13] <gamax92> it works
L2327[21:45:04] <gamax92> if you have kill cams enabled your screen will go black, every time you die you have to alt-tab out and go back in, need wine set to xp or it locks up, need graphics on all low or you get black textures and blinding effects, need nvidia or you get really bad things
L2328[21:45:07] <gamax92> but it works
L2329[21:45:37] <peelz> lol
L2330[21:46:37] <peelz> I'd be really careful with anything involving Blizzard games. I was banned due to a false positive (official reason being "cheating"), and never got an answer from customer support.
L2331[21:57:07] <gamax92> well we haven't gotten any reports yet from people who tried awesie's old repo or my repo. hopefully it stays that away
L2332[21:58:29] <peelz> hopefully :p
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L2342[23:39:13] <gamax92> :/ userstyles.org is now broken
L2343[23:39:36] <gamax92> they have a new design that took away style configuration
L2344[23:39:53] <gamax92> the search is shit now and pulls up unrelated styles
L2345[23:40:13] <gamax92> and there's no way to sort the search results
L2346[23:52:14] <asie> gamax92: hi
L2347[23:52:35] <gamax92> asie: http://i.imgur.com/pHoJkK8.png
L2348[23:53:06] <asie> i'm not sure what you mean by that
L2349[23:53:15] <gamax92> it's supposed to be an arrow that points to the left
L2350[23:53:23] <gamax92> but instead it looks like a rocket
L2351[23:53:38] <asie> unscii doesn't even do anything outside the BMP, no?
L2352[23:53:46] <gamax92> it does 91 characters in plane 1
L2353[23:53:55] <asie> huh
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