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L15[06:20:38] <MGR> Good morning
L16[06:22:10] <Ai> moening
L17[06:22:23] <MGR> How are you?
L18[06:22:31] <Ai> tired as fuck
L19[06:23:37] <MGR> You should probably sleep then
L20[06:23:41] <Ai> messed a bit too much with WSL, xserver, d-bus etc all night
L21[06:23:46] <Ai> and forgot to seel
L22[06:24:02] <Ai> but if i sleep now i would have a 12h off sleep rythm.. again
L23[06:24:20] <MGR> If you've done it before, you can do it again
L24[06:24:41] <Ai> lol
L25[06:25:59] <MGR> But of course
L26[06:28:06] <Izaya> Ai, more caffeine
L27[06:30:06] <Ai> none available
L28[06:30:54] <MGR> Nikky, what about any synthetic stimulants?
L29[06:33:35] <Izaya> "just do drugs" ~ MGR
L30[06:34:24] <MGR> Izaya, my first recommendation was sleep
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L34[06:53:34] <Ashindigo_> %inv add drugs
L35[06:53:37] <MichiBot> Ashindigo_: Added 'drugs' to inventory.
L36[06:53:53] <MGR> %inv remove drugs
L37[06:53:56] <MGR> say no to drugs
L38[06:53:57] <Ai> i am suing syntetic music as stimulant to stay focused
L39[06:54:01] <MichiBot> MGR: Removed item from inventory
L40[06:54:08] <MGR> Nikky, I do that too sometimes
L41[06:54:10] <Ashindigo_> %inv add more drugs
L42[06:54:11] <MichiBot> Ashindigo_: Added 'more drugs' to inventory.
L43[06:54:15] <Ai> %inv add vocaloid
L44[06:54:15] <MichiBot> Ai: Added 'vocaloid' to inventory.
L45[06:54:17] <MGR> %inv remove more drugs
L46[06:54:17] <MichiBot> MGR: Removed item from inventory
L47[06:54:36] <Ashindigo_> %inv add some good music
L48[06:54:36] <MichiBot> Ashindigo_: Added 'some good music' to inventory.
L49[06:54:47] <Ai> that will do weird stuff
L50[06:54:55] <Ashindigo_> %stab
L51[06:54:55] * MichiBot flails at nothingness with Inari's collection of "stuff"
L52[06:55:02] <Ai> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dyHf7sIgzo
L53[06:55:03] <MichiBot> Electronic Music Stream | length: 0 milliseconds | Likes: 5,264 Dislikes: 80 Views: 79,064 | by MrSuicideSheep | Published On 27/2/2017
L54[06:55:05] <MGR> %stab Ashindigo_
L55[06:55:06] * MichiBot hits Ashindigo_ with nate doing [4] damage
L56[06:55:15] <Ashindigo_> %stab @MGR
L57[06:55:15] * MichiBot slaps @MGR with snuggles doing [2] damage, the snuggles crumbles to dust.
L58[06:55:20] <Ashindigo_> oh no!
L59[06:55:38] <Ai> %help
L60[06:58:12] <MGR> Nikky, no help for you? XD
L61[07:04:56] <Ai> Micibot was so kind to whisper that and not spam chat
L62[07:05:12] <MGR> Ah
L63[07:05:14] <Ai> its a bood bot
L64[07:05:19] * Ai pets MichiBot
L65[07:05:20] * MichiBot Purrs
L66[07:05:26] <Ai> *good
L67[07:05:29] <MGR> With other messages, it just links a pastebin or something
L68[07:05:37] <Ashindigo_> %inv list
L69[07:05:41] <MichiBot> Message to long to send to channel https://paste.pc-logix.com/gosuloruwo
L70[07:05:48] <MGR> like that
L71[07:06:14] <Ai> i still have no idea what i can do
L72[07:06:17] <Ai> apart from
L73[07:06:22] <Ai> %stab MGR
L74[07:06:22] * MichiBot stabs MGR with Rage doing [3] damage
L75[07:06:47] <MGR> %stab Ai
L76[07:06:47] * MichiBot hits Ai with Rage doing [11] damage, the Rage crumbles to dust.
L77[07:06:59] <Ai> %stab Ai
L78[07:07:00] * MichiBot slaps Ai with a useless computer doing [9] damage
L79[07:07:00] <Corded> * MGR chuckles
L80[07:07:16] <Ai> ow that was one of the big chunky iMacs i bet
L81[07:07:19] <MGR> also, it's %stab @/MGR
L82[07:07:41] <Ai> right.. discord.. barely notice that
L83[07:07:56] <Ai> https://aww.moe/ewf6d9.png
L84[07:08:22] <MGR> huh
L85[07:08:25] <Ai> %stab @MGR
L86[07:08:25] * MichiBot hits @MGR with Mons pengin doing [3] damage
L87[07:08:29] <MGR> your client must be special
L88[07:08:35] <Ai> not really
L89[07:08:40] <Ashindigo_> what client?
L90[07:08:44] <Ai> weechat
L91[07:09:20] <Ai> actually glowing-bear running inside franz connecting to weechats relay
L92[07:09:49] <Ai> and the script is parse_relay_msg.pl or so
L93[07:10:03] <Ai> its one of the default scripts
L94[07:10:12] <Ai> at least on the arch package
L95[07:10:21] <MGR> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L96[07:10:34] * Ashindigo_ shrugs
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L98[07:11:37] <Ai> its magic
L99[07:11:54] <MGR> I didn't realize that IRC used incredibly advanced science
L100[07:12:14] <Ai> well there is people using webchat too
L101[07:12:39] <MGR> yes
L102[07:12:56] <Ai> and then there is people using weechat, znc and running irc-discord bridges
L103[07:13:15] <Ai> hmm i need to look into better-discord or custom scripts..
L104[07:13:37] <Ai> or write a better selfbot.. but that will be hard
L105[07:13:53] <MGR> Heh
L106[07:13:55] <Ai> as the new libraries for bots no longer support selfbots
L107[07:14:05] <Ai> only proper bots using tokens
L108[07:14:32] <MGR> Ok
L109[07:14:47] <Izaya> or like, ignore discord because it's not worth it :D
L110[07:14:54] <Ai> selfbots need to login to your own user with password
L111[07:15:23] <Ai> good option.. have been doing that for now.. mostly
L112[07:15:54] <MGR> I like Discord's look better \o/
L113[07:15:58] <MGR> Plus it has more features
L114[07:16:13] * Ashindigo_ high fives Izaya
L115[07:16:23] <Izaya> No new features
L116[07:16:26] * Izaya shrugs
L117[07:16:57] <MGR> Izaya, yes, but these features aren't on IRC
L118[07:17:19] <Izaya> If you want text chat you use IRC, if you want voice you use Mumble
L119[07:17:23] * Izaya shrugs
L120[07:18:06] <MGR> But that's 2 different services
L121[07:18:32] <Izaya> But neither are inherently hostile.
L122[07:18:51] <MGR> Discord is?
L123[07:18:55] <Ai> yes
L124[07:19:01] <MGR> ?
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L126[07:19:32] <Ai> well not the discord servers i use.. but there is a reason i stay away from the bigger guilds
L127[07:19:34] <Izaya> Did you read the EULA?
L128[07:19:44] <Ai> then there is nitro
L129[07:20:07] <MGR> Izaya, yes, but I didn't memorize it
L130[07:20:16] <MGR> I don't use Nitro, so it doesn't bother me
L131[07:21:08] <Ai> well it didn't bother me until i discovered that they added some restrictions to non nitro users as a afterthought
L132[07:21:18] <Ai> filesize restrictions for example
L133[07:21:26] <MGR> Yeah
L134[07:21:34] <MGR> But I don't transfer files over Discord
L135[07:21:38] <Ai> just.. what else will be restricted..
L136[07:22:12] <MGR> If the restrictions impact me, I'll leave Discord
L137[07:22:26] <MGR> But they don't, so I don't understand why everyone's freaking out
L138[07:22:40] <MGR> Discord never struck me as the ideal platform for file transfer
L139[07:22:53] <Ai> but in the end discord is a pain because it is just another website.. eating too much resources for being just text and voice chat
L140[07:23:13] <Izaya> I'd say something about Freedoms but you've tried to write closed-source software for OC so I'm not even going to bothee
L141[07:23:15] <Izaya> bother
L142[07:23:26] <MGR> Nikky, I have the app
L143[07:23:35] <MGR> And I've never seen it consume a lot of resources
L144[07:23:42] <MGR> Izaya, open source never made sense to me
L145[07:24:07] <Ai> Izaya++
L146[07:24:21] <Lizzy> ?_?
L147[07:24:29] <Izaya> The more I learn the less I get the reasoning behind closed-source stuff
L148[07:24:49] <Ai> people can cover up their shitty code
L149[07:24:59] <Lizzy> like skype
L150[07:25:08] <Ai> and blame errors on whatever they feel like
L151[07:25:41] <MGR> If the program doesn't work, then don't use it
L152[07:25:55] <MGR> I just don't understand what open source has to do with the decision process
L153[07:25:59] <Izaya> Would it not be better to have other people help improve it in those cases though
L154[07:26:02] <Ai> false security through obsfucation, exclusivity on their apis and protocols
L155[07:26:23] <MGR> Izaya, yes, that's why there is development teams
L156[07:26:40] <Ai> if you do not want to have people use custom clients because you want to control their experience and have ads
L157[07:26:46] <Izaya> 6 guys in a room, wonderful
L158[07:26:51] <Izaya> So different to one.
L159[07:27:19] <MGR> Nikky, I favor closed source development, but I don't feel a need to control everything
L160[07:27:30] <MGR> Izaya, they don't have to be all in one place
L161[07:27:43] <Izaya> hahahahahahaha
L162[07:28:45] <MGR> ?
L163[07:29:10] <Izaya> Don't worry, MGR
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L165[07:30:10] <MGR> ?
L166[07:38:24] <Ai> nobody will steal your code :P
L167[07:39:09] <MGR> Ai, for the public facing projects, they won't have to
L168[07:39:18] <MGR> Both GERT and TACEATS2 are open source
L169[07:39:24] <Izaya> are NULLs valid whitespace in Lua?
L170[07:40:40] <Izaya> because I mean a null adds nothing to a file's bagel result so I mean you could use that to reduce it to fit more questionable code
L171[07:41:31] <MGR> What does that have to do with this conversation?
L172[07:41:49] <Izaya> nothinf
L173[07:41:52] <Izaya> just a question
L174[07:42:00] <Izaya> I feel like breaking stuff
L175[07:42:28] <MGR> That won't work for long
L176[07:42:41] <MGR> The next thing to do after GERT 1.0's release is to fix Bagel
L177[07:43:04] <MGR> and then a few miscellaneous updates to TACEATS2, including removing the anti-corruption code
L178[07:44:00] <Izaya> well I mean you could always use the hash functions built into the mod if they're availible
L179[07:44:38] <MGR> Yes
L180[07:45:00] <MGR> But the whole reason for bagel's existence is to bring the cost of encryption down
L181[07:45:09] <MGR> And before you start, I know it's a garbage system right now
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L183[08:01:43] <vifino> https://i.imgur.com/JbDq497.jpg
L184[08:02:09] <MGR> Fair point
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L187[08:12:07] <LuMistry> Greetings
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L189[08:12:28] <Inari> vifino: Whoever made that needs to get more business administration education
L190[08:13:30] <Izaya> maybe in an icecream shop
L191[08:14:04] <Inari> Still not
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L194[08:16:14] <Inari> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marginal_utility#/media/File:UtilityQuantified.svg there more you get of a thing the less extra utility each time you get, and eventaully you get too much and you'll even be inconvenienced by it
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L197[08:29:16] <Ai> except money and icecream
L198[08:29:44] <Ai> for money the curve usually does not fall
L199[08:32:43] <S3> so
L200[08:32:49] <S3> I am building a big project red CPU
L201[08:32:50] <S3> 12 bit
L202[08:32:57] <S3> for controlling everything on the server
L203[08:33:19] <S3> everything is in octal.. it makes it easier to send control bits through bundle cables
L204[08:33:22] <S3> with the data
L205[08:33:42] <S3> does OC have a way of reading player written books in MC?
L206[08:33:59] <S3> because I could write a simple assembler in lua that reads books and writes them in memory on the CPU
L207[08:34:11] <Ashindigo_> could you read the books nbt?
L208[08:34:19] <MGR> I do not believe so
L209[08:35:18] <S3> another way is to type it on the OC cpomputer
L210[08:35:37] <S3> but I wanted people on the server to be able to put a book in a minecart train and send it to the cpu kilometers away
L211[08:35:45] <S3> for the "big computer" to run
L212[08:35:50] <S3> neat eh?
L213[08:35:55] <Ashindigo_> yeah
L214[08:36:12] <S3> the cpu supports context switching
L215[08:36:21] <S3> so it can run multiple programs at once
L216[08:36:30] <S3> it has a programmable interrupt controler for IO
L217[08:37:24] <Ai> you can read item nbt data.. i think the driver for it is disabled by default though
L218[08:37:53] <Ai> i think its found under the vanilla section
L219[08:38:11] <MGR> Yes
L220[08:38:48] <Ai> so with that you could compile programs from books
L221[08:39:17] <MGR> yes
L222[08:42:14] <S3> hmm
L223[08:42:52] <Izaya> why not EEPROM programmer
L224[08:43:00] <Izaya> that you stick a book in
L225[08:43:08] <S3> ?
L226[08:43:22] <S3> you'll have to explain that one
L227[08:43:28] <Izaya> and it writes the components to an EEPROM
L228[08:43:49] <Izaya> at which point I realise most people don't like using EEPROMs as storage
L229[08:43:50] <Izaya> right
L230[08:43:59] <S3> no no
L231[08:44:04] <Ai> i think the point is using a redstone cpu
L232[08:44:04] <S3> I don't uite understand what you're saying
L233[08:44:19] <S3> Izaya: this is a big giant redstone / project red cpu
L234[08:44:28] <Izaya> ohh
L235[08:44:30] <vifino> %online @20kdc
L236[08:44:37] <vifino> MichiBot pls
L237[08:44:51] <Ai> %slap MichiBot
L238[08:44:55] <S3> the idea Izaya is that people could stand outside their house, write a program, and then put it in a minecart that goes top the cpu as delivered
L239[08:45:08] <MGR> Bye MichiBot
L240[08:45:12] <S3> and then the cpu programming device will pause the cpu and write to RAM
L241[08:45:13] <Ai> %stab MichiBot
L242[08:45:13] * MichiBot uses magic to vaporize Ai
L243[08:45:16] <S3> the entire program
L244[08:45:21] <Ai> ded
L245[08:45:23] <MGR> Heh
L246[08:45:25] <S3> and then program the context switch device with the new program
L247[08:45:29] <Ai> %stab MichiBot
L248[08:45:29] * MichiBot uses featuring Barney from the Devil May Cry series! to vaporize Ai
L249[08:45:30] <S3> then it resumes the cpu
L250[08:45:31] <MGR> that is not an unpleasant outcome
L251[08:45:40] <Ai> so it always vaporizes
L252[08:45:53] <Ai> %stab @MGR
L253[08:45:53] * MichiBot stabs @MGR with bago'dicks doing [13] damage
L254[08:46:45] <Corded> * MGR brushes the attack off
L255[08:46:55] <Ai> hmm is there anywhere a list of mods that have OC integration ?
L256[08:47:01] <Ashindigo_> %stab @MGR
L257[08:47:05] * MichiBot stabs @MGR with MichiBot doing [13] damage
L258[08:47:15] <Ashindigo_> the ultimate weapon
L259[08:47:21] <Corded> * MGR brushes the attack off again
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L261[08:47:50] <Ai> %stab @MGR
L262[08:47:50] * MichiBot slaps @MGR with a mod pack doing [2] damage
L263[08:48:02] <Izaya> heh
L264[08:48:02] <Ai> must have been a lite pack
L265[08:48:18] <Corded> * MGR continues to brush off attacks
L266[08:48:30] <Ai> or maybe it included foamfix
L267[08:48:41] * Ashindigo_ laser blasts MGR
L268[08:48:47] * Izaya drops a server on MGR dealing [10, 000] damage
L269[08:49:13] <Corded> * MGR hefts the server
L270[08:49:18] <Corded> * MGR throws it into the distance
L271[08:49:37] <Izaya> yeah no
L272[08:49:41] * Ai stabs MGR with a nokia brick
L273[08:49:42] * Ashindigo_ catches it and places it down gently
L274[08:50:07] <MGR> Izaya, yes
L275[08:50:17] <Corded> * MGR dodges Ai's attack
L276[08:50:23] * Ashindigo_ stabs MGR with a rainbow blade
L277[08:50:38] * Ai flails around trying to keep her balance
L278[08:50:46] * Izaya goes to bed
L279[08:50:52] <Ai> boring
L280[08:50:55] <Ashindigo_> good night izaya
L281[08:50:56] * Izaya steadies Ai
L282[08:51:13] <Corded> * MGR holds Ashindigo off at a far distance
L283[08:51:16] * Ai gives Izaya a good night kiss on the cheek
L284[08:51:21] * vifino drops his blade center on MGR dealing [4294967295] damage
L285[08:51:30] <Izaya> I seem to keep everyone else stable, why not you too? >.>
L286[08:51:36] * Ashindigo_ watches vifino and mgr with a blank face
L287[08:51:50] <Ai> xD
L288[08:52:03] <Ai> i am unstable enough already
L289[08:52:10] <vifino> Night, Izaya.
L290[08:52:14] <Corded> * MGR dodges the blade center
L291[08:52:31] * Ashindigo_ dashes behind MGR and slashes with a blade
L292[08:52:42] <MGR> You know, this makes it awfully hard to not just start blowing things up
L293[08:52:51] <Corded> * MGR watches as the blade shatters on contact with his skin
L294[08:53:13] * Ashindigo_ summons another one immediately
L295[09:00:39] <Michiyo> http://speedof.me/show.php?img=170228150008-1039.png
L296[09:00:43] <Michiyo> wtf am I supposed to do with this
L297[09:00:56] <MGR> play Pong
L298[09:01:08] * Ashindigo_ gives michi a cookie
L299[09:02:08] <Michiyo> ffs I can't RDP over this q_q
L300[09:02:51] <Ai> i suggest to restart router and/or pc
L301[09:03:12] <Michiyo> work internet... can't quiet do anything beyond the PC, and that *just* happened
L302[09:03:22] <Ai> argh
L303[09:03:25] <Ashindigo_> %stab michis internet
L304[09:03:26] * MichiBot slaps michis internet with Irani doing [7] damage
L305[09:03:48] <Michiyo> >Irani
L306[09:04:07] <Ashindigo_> of course
L307[09:04:31] <Michiyo> Ugh... this fucking TV I'm working on is pissing me off
L308[09:05:00] <Michiyo> I've replaced the power board, and the control board, it now powers on fully (before it would just blink and the speakers would pop every time.
L309[09:05:10] <Michiyo> now it turns on, the LCD Backlight comes up, but no video
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L312[09:45:30] <Inari> https://twitter.com/Kirinodere/status/836487448184164353
L313[09:45:32] <MichiBot> Tue Feb 28 02:05:23 CST 2017 @Kirinodere: Don't forget to give your waifu a proper breakfast every morning https://t.co/IopnBWWH5E
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L315[09:49:40] <Skye> Hey Ai, want a flamethrower for @MGR? :P
L316[09:50:01] <MGR> A. Flamethrowers don't work on me
L317[09:50:10] <MGR> B. I thought that conversation line was finished...
L318[09:50:12] <Ai> its not something you can stab him with though :/
L319[09:50:20] <Ai> unless you use a lot of force i guess
L320[09:51:07] * Skye gives Ai a blade with zero thickness
L321[09:51:21] * Ai folds the blade
L322[09:51:50] <Skye> Um
L323[09:51:56] <Skye> Well
L324[09:52:15] * Ai eats the folded but still ininfitely thin blade
L325[09:52:25] <Inari> %inv add a blade with zero thickness
L326[09:52:26] <MichiBot> Inari: Added 'a blade with zero thickness' to inventory.
L327[09:52:28] <Inari> %stab Skye
L328[09:52:28] * MichiBot stabs Skye with portable hole doing [6] damage
L329[09:52:41] <Skye> Ai... How was it?
L330[09:52:43] <Ai> well that leaves a hole i guess
L331[09:52:50] <Ai> its air
L332[09:53:14] * Ai yawns
L333[09:53:42] <Inari> %inv add a compressed air blade
L334[09:53:42] <MichiBot> Inari: Added 'a compressed air blade' to inventory.
L335[09:53:48] <20kdc> Inari: That roll's flakes are going to get into that keyboard.
L336[09:54:07] <20kdc> It's a guarantee.
L337[09:54:13] <Ai> i am taking a nap.. if you have any more requests or if stuff broeaks.. wait for me to wake up.. Skye
L338[09:54:19] <Ai> *breaks
L339[09:54:37] <Skye> Night Ai
L340[09:54:42] <Inari> @20kdc roll?
L341[09:54:45] <Ai> %stab Skye
L342[09:54:45] * MichiBot hits Skye with a Temia-tan plushy that muus if you squeeze it doing [13] damage
L343[09:54:58] <Ai> aww
L344[09:54:58] <Skye> Ow.
L345[09:55:05] <Ai> or rather.. moo
L346[09:55:31] <Skye> I'd ask why but then you'd stab me more.
L347[09:56:02] <20kdc> Inari: the tweet link.
L348[09:56:12] <Inari> Ah
L349[09:58:29] <Tokiko> %stab
L350[09:58:33] * MichiBot flails at nothingness with no tea
L351[09:58:36] <Tokiko> %stab Tokiko
L352[09:58:37] * MichiBot hits Tokiko with � doing [7] damage
L353[09:58:42] <Tokiko> oh no
L354[09:58:43] <Tokiko> a square
L355[09:59:05] <Tokiko> anything but the square D:
L356[10:00:02] <Skye> %inv add ?
L357[10:00:05] <MichiBot> Skye: Added '?' to inventory.
L358[10:00:54] * Skye puts a blanket over Ai and wheels her away from MichiBot
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L360[10:01:50] <Ai> %stabs
L361[10:01:52] <Ai> %stab
L362[10:01:54] * MichiBot flails at nothingness with some good music
L363[10:02:06] <Ai> %stab blanket
L364[10:02:07] * MichiBot hits blanket with TACEATS2 doing [13] damage
L365[10:02:19] <Ai> oww
L366[10:02:26] <Ai> %stab pillow
L367[10:02:26] * MichiBot stabs pillow with � doing [7] damage
L368[10:03:39] <Skye> Oh... Ai isn't asleep. Oops.
L369[10:03:49] * Skye takes the blanket off of Ai
L370[10:03:59] <Skye> %inv
L371[10:03:59] <MichiBot> Skye: Unknown sub-command '' (Try: add, remove, list)
L372[10:04:19] <Skye> %inv list
L373[10:04:19] <MichiBot> Message to long to send to channel https://paste.pc-logix.com/zodotizone
L374[10:04:39] <MGR> ooh
L375[10:04:50] <MGR> that blanket just got wrecked
L376[10:09:27] <Inari> %inv add a bottled yawn
L377[10:09:30] <MichiBot> Inari: Added 'a bottled yawn' to inventory. I love this! This is my new favourite thing!
L378[10:09:41] <Skye> Haha
L379[10:10:20] <Skye> %inv add a bottled sigh
L380[10:10:23] <MichiBot> Skye: Added 'a bottled sigh' to inventory.
L381[10:10:27] <Skye> %inv add a bottled Skye sigh
L382[10:10:27] <MichiBot> Skye: Added 'a bottled Skye sigh' to inventory.
L383[10:10:32] <Michiyo> ._>
L384[10:11:41] <Skye> sorry 'bout the spam
L385[10:19:34] * Lizzy sits on vifino's lap
L386[10:23:16] <Kodos> Holy shit it's a miracle
L387[10:25:24] <MGR> ?
L388[10:26:29] <Kodos> Paypal pushed the money that was gifted to me last night into my bank this morning
L389[10:26:43] <Kodos> I will actually not be hungry on the last day of the month for the first time in nearly a year
L390[10:27:24] <Kodos> Time to go get ready and get my sleeping wife up out of bed lol
L391[10:27:27] <Kodos> It's date time
L392[10:32:44] <MGR> Yay!
L393[10:32:51] <MGR> @Kodos enjoy your meal
L394[10:33:03] <Kodos> I will
L395[10:33:35] <MGR> Let me know what you got
L396[10:37:41] <linuxdaemon> asm optimizations are so.. counter intuitive sometimes
L397[10:37:44] <Kodos> Well about half is going into the gas tank of the truck I'm using. Borrowed dad and grandpa's big truck they use for hauling. It had a half a tank when I got it, it's at a quarter now
L398[10:39:44] <MGR> What are you hauling?
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L401[10:40:12] <S3> 12 bit computers are really nice
L402[10:40:45] <S3> 4K of address space..
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L404[10:41:04] <S3> 16 bit data bus can carry 12 bit data and 4 bits control codes..
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L406[10:41:07] <MGR> lol
L407[10:41:13] <S3> seems no natural
L408[10:41:18] <S3> and!
L409[10:41:23] <S3> all your numbers are in octal!
L410[10:41:44] <S3> 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 100 101...
L411[10:42:13] <gamax92> let's make everything awful and have a computer that works with prime number sized bits
L412[10:42:21] <S3> LOL
L413[10:42:25] <S3> I thought of that the other day
L414[10:42:42] <S3> check out my 19 bit computer
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L416[10:43:27] * linuxdaemon makes a processor that runs on base 4
L417[10:44:03] <S3> Let's consider that for a bit
L418[10:44:22] <S3> A 4 bit computer, 4 bits, hmm. 0 1 2 3 10 11 12 13 100 101 102 103..
L419[10:44:32] <linuxdaemon> yup
L420[10:44:43] <S3> linuxdaemon: I think you're on to psomething
L421[10:45:03] <S3> see, you can represent 16 combinations with 4 bits
L422[10:45:19] <MGR> wouldn't it go 0 1 2 3 10 11 12 13 21 22 23 31 32 33 100, etc?
L423[10:45:31] <S3> no..
L424[10:45:34] <MGR> insert 20 and 30 too
L425[10:45:34] <linuxdaemon> yes
L426[10:45:35] <S3> er
L427[10:45:36] <S3> yes
L428[10:45:37] <S3> it would
L429[10:45:38] <S3> sorry
L430[10:45:41] <linuxdaemon> because, base 4
L431[10:45:45] <S3> anyways..
L432[10:45:53] <S3> what I was saying is that
L433[10:45:54] <MGR> ?
L434[10:46:10] <S3> in addressing of a 4 bit computer
L435[10:46:16] <linuxdaemon> well, not 4 bit
L436[10:46:22] <linuxdaemon> base 4
L437[10:46:44] <Kodos> @MGR Besides my heavy ass and my wife, nothing. They use it for hauling. I needed it at the time I borrowed it because I had no money and no gas in my truck
L438[10:46:51] <S3> right, but I'm going to keep it fundamental and say the computer is also 4 bits
L439[10:47:03] <linuxdaemon> ah
L440[10:47:11] <linuxdaemon> so, a 4 bit base 4 computer?
L441[10:47:21] <S3> think of an easier set
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L443[10:47:46] <S3> let me think about how special base four can be
L444[10:47:55] <MGR> @Kodos ah ok
L445[10:47:57] <S3> base four needs a minimum of 2 bits
L446[10:48:05] <S3> 00 01 10 11
L447[10:48:27] <S3> with four bits, seperated this way: 00 00
L448[10:48:34] <linuxdaemon> that would assume you were trying to represent it in binary
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L450[10:48:41] <S3> we can say that the upper two bits changes the lower four banks for up to 16 combinations of 4 bit banks
L451[10:48:56] <S3> linuxdaemon: you usually do
L452[10:48:59] <MGR> what about a 0-bit computer?
L453[10:49:00] <S3> in hardware
L454[10:49:14] <MGR> It's just 0, 00, 000, 0000, etc.
L455[10:49:18] <S3> linuxdaemon: I'm trying to find a benefit to a base 4 computer.
L456[10:49:22] <linuxdaemon> S3: I'm meaning you design the hardware as base 4, so 4 states
L457[10:49:29] <S3> exactly
L458[10:49:33] <linuxdaemon> rather than 2 states
L459[10:49:34] <S3> you only need two bits to represent 4 states
L460[10:49:43] <S3> 00, 01, 10, 11
L461[10:50:36] <linuxdaemon> .. if the hardware has 4 physical states, wouldn't it be easier to just denote them in base 4
L462[10:50:47] <S3> with octal, the benefit is that addressing can be seperated in 3 bit segments
L463[10:50:55] <S3> linuxdaemon: no..
L464[10:51:02] <S3> not when building finite state machines
L465[10:51:13] <S3> 2 bits can be base four quite easily
L466[10:51:25] <S3> each digit represents 2 bits here
L467[10:51:30] <S3> so if you have an 8 bit address
L468[10:51:39] <S3> you have 4 base four digits represent that address
L469[10:52:03] <S3> 0123 points to 0b00011011
L470[10:52:14] <S3> or in hex, 0x1B
L471[10:52:25] <LuMistry> I am not in favor of multiple numerical systems for data
L472[10:52:38] <linuxdaemon> ... except in a base 4 machine, an 8 bit address would be 8 bits, each bit being a base 4 digit, since each bit has 4 states
L473[10:52:39] <S3> it's pretty much how it works
L474[10:52:40] <LuMistry> It would break compatibility a lot
L475[10:52:51] <S3> LuMistry: not really..
L476[10:52:57] <S3> it's how we've done it for years.
L477[10:53:05] <S3> a long time ago, we had a lot of base 10 computers
L478[10:53:10] <S3> that was messier than any other system
L479[10:53:13] <LuMistry> Yes
L480[10:53:22] <LuMistry> But changing now would be harder
L481[10:53:31] <linuxdaemon> hell, they've tried ternary (base 3) a few times too
L482[10:53:36] <LuMistry> or worse, running binary and base 4 machines simultaneously
L483[10:54:51] <S3> the problem with base 10 is that it doesn't align with binary
L484[10:55:16] <S3> if you can align with binary, then you can easily map bits to individual wires
L485[10:55:34] <linuxdaemon> a wire can have more than 2 states though
L486[10:55:45] <S3> not getting into that
L487[10:56:30] <linuxdaemon> that's what I was referring to, if your system logic were designed around having wires and components have 4 states rather than just 2
L488[10:56:55] <S3> that can work in the minecraft world, with some headaches, but in the real world that would be a nightmare
L489[10:57:00] <LuMistry> TLC NAND has 3 states, so that is not impossible
L490[10:57:08] <S3> what if your line was noisy?
L491[10:57:21] <LuMistry> QLC has 4, but I'm not aware of a commercial QLC system
L492[10:57:24] <S3> with dual state, you can use differentials
L493[10:57:44] <LuMistry> That's why TLC is less durable than MLC/SLC
L494[10:57:48] <LuMistry> noise
L495[10:58:08] <linuxdaemon> yeah, line noise does heavily impact it, I see your point
L496[10:58:51] <LuMistry> MC would have no line noise thoug
L497[10:58:53] <LuMistry> h
L498[10:59:21] * linuxdaemon writes a mod to give redstone line interference
L499[10:59:38] <LuMistry> That would be interesting
L500[11:00:28] <S3> with a comparator in vanilla MC you can have up to 16 states
L501[11:00:35] <S3> the problem is
L502[11:00:52] <S3> I wish there was a type of cable that was insulated or something that would keep the same state
L503[11:01:01] <S3> so if it had a value of 3 it would be 3 on the other end
L504[11:01:09] <linuxdaemon> with something like SCM, that's possible (on circuit at least)
L505[11:01:15] <S3> ?
L506[11:01:22] <linuxdaemon> Super Circuit Maker
L507[11:01:25] <S3> ah
L508[11:01:34] <linuxdaemon> has 256 states
L509[11:03:22] <LuMistry> S3, ProjectRed wire with comparators?
L510[11:03:38] <S3> they have only two states
L511[11:03:38] <LuMistry> actually
L512[11:03:46] <S3> put a weak signal in one and a strong one comes ouity
L513[11:03:49] <LuMistry> Automagy super redstone torches or something
L514[11:04:04] <MGR> Yeah
L515[11:04:08] <linuxdaemon> SCM is nice because you can have a lot of logic in a single tile
L516[11:04:19] <MGR> Automagy has a redstone torch that puts out the exact oppisite of what went in
L517[11:04:23] <MGR> It has multiple states
L518[11:06:16] <linuxdaemon> S3: iirc, ProjectRed maintains the input signal strength along the whole line, values 0-255
L519[11:06:40] <MGR> it does not
L520[11:07:10] <MGR> it still decreases by 1 with each block
L521[11:12:44] <S3> MGR Not from my experience
L522[11:13:01] <S3> it may be decreased by 1 every 16..
L523[11:13:13] <S3> however, linuxdaemon what you can do is encode a signal into a bundle cable
L524[11:13:25] <S3> but that means more circuitry
L525[11:13:52] <S3> no I think base four -> binary computers have a perfectly valid use.
L526[11:13:58] <MGR> I'll have to look into it
L527[11:14:02] <S3> every 8 bits can be represented with 4 digits
L528[11:14:05] <S3> making it easy
L529[11:14:18] <linuxdaemon> I've mostly been using SCM recently so I don't remember much about ProjRed
L530[11:25:16] <MGR> Skye, thank you for your comment on the GERT thread on the forums
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L532[11:38:45] <MGR> SolraBizna, can I get an OETF doc number for port standardization?
L533[11:39:30] <LuMistry> @MGR, SolraBizna is not here right now
L534[11:39:49] <MGR> ah thank you LuMistry
L535[11:40:04] <MGR> %tell SolraBizna can I get an OETF doc number for port standardization?
L536[11:40:05] <MichiBot> MGR: SolraBizna will be notified of this message when next seen.
L537[11:44:01] <Skye> Port standardisation
L538[11:44:03] <Skye> oh dear
L539[11:44:05] <Skye> this will be /fun/
L540[11:44:56] <MGR> Skye, don't you agree that port standardization is a good idea?
L541[11:45:28] <Temia> heeey everybo--
L542[11:45:35] <Temia> >port standardisation
L543[11:45:38] <LuMistry> Hello Temia
L544[11:45:42] * Temia walks out
L545[11:45:43] <MGR> Hi Temia
L546[11:45:47] <linuxdaemon> MGR: rfc6335 might be what you want: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6335
L547[11:45:50] <MGR> Bye Temia
L548[11:46:12] <MGR> linuxdaemon, I'm talking about standardizing OC network ports
L549[11:46:15] <MGR> not IRL stuff
L550[11:46:20] <linuxdaemon> o
L551[11:46:46] <MGR> I already have a document on my GitHub repo, but I want to put it on the forums too
L552[11:46:52] <MGR> That way more people will see it
L553[11:47:15] <LuMistry> Temia, why'd you leave us so soon?
L554[11:47:19] <LuMistry> I just got to say hi
L555[11:49:41] <MGR> linuxdaemon, I currently host it here: https://github.com/GlobalEmpire/GERT
L556[11:49:49] <MGR> But I want a duplicate on the forums
L557[11:50:00] <MGR> BTW, feel free to open an issue if you want to reserve any ports
L558[11:50:53] <gamax92> Core 1 spends a lot of it's time offline
L559[11:51:18] <gamax92> Core 0 spends a lot of it's time online
L560[11:55:54] <Skye> @MGR, there was an attempt before but people sorta ignored it after there were conflicts
L561[11:56:09] <MGR> Skye, there was?
L562[11:56:12] <MGR> Where? Who?
L563[11:57:43] <Skye> search the forum
L564[11:58:14] <Temia> Those who do not know their history are doomed to repeat it
L565[11:58:46] <MGR> I know my own history
L566[11:58:54] <MGR> I don't know all history of everyone
L567[12:01:01] <MGR> Skye, are you talking about Wuerfel_21?
L568[12:01:06] <Skye> yes
L569[12:01:14] <MGR> Let me read the thread
L570[12:03:31] <MGR> Skye, it kinda just died out it seems
L571[12:04:03] <MGR> I don't see the issue with trying to take up the banner
L572[12:05:50] <Temia> Don't say we didn't warn you.
L573[12:06:47] <MGR> Worst (reasonable) case scenario is people don't follow it
L574[12:07:34] <LuMistry> In my opinion, standardization is usually nice, so long as the central authority does not attempt to force everyone to follow it.
L575[12:07:48] <MGR> Sounds pretty reasonable
L576[12:08:27] <MGR> Skye, when you replied to the GERT thread were you talking about an updated version of this whitepaper, or instructions to an end-user on how to set up GERTi?
L577[12:09:03] <Skye> you don't get it...
L578[12:09:16] <Skye> look at real RFCs
L579[12:09:32] <Skye> write something that describes the technical details of GERTi
L580[12:09:39] <Skye> not the implementation
L581[12:09:41] <Skye> the protocol
L582[12:09:44] <Skye> not how to use it
L583[12:09:48] <Skye> how it works
L584[12:10:00] <MGR> Ah, so an updated whitepaper
L585[12:10:06] <MGR> Because that's what the whitepaper does right now
L586[12:11:11] <Skye> less advertising more documentation
L587[12:11:47] <Skye> no "this will be amazing"
L588[12:12:11] <MGR> It was one line at the beginning. I thought it was humourous ?
L589[12:12:12] <gamax92> more desolate grass plains and forests
L590[12:12:16] <gamax92> and more fog
L591[12:12:32] <gamax92> the sky is always a gloomy gray, except for night, when it's a gloomy dark blue
L592[12:13:03] <gamax92> all you do is walk
L593[12:14:13] <gamax92> all you do is exist in this vast emptiness
L594[12:32:13] <jazzpi> can i somehow yield immediately when i call os.sleep()?
L595[12:33:11] <MGR> jazzpi, I think that's what os.sleep does
L596[12:35:06] <jazzpi> oh, event.pull yields? makes sense i guess, thanks
L597[12:35:48] <MGR> event.pull does yield yes
L598[12:59:04] <MGR> Asus says I shouldn't use my laptop on my lap
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L600[13:05:09] <gamax92> that moment when downdetector is down
L601[13:07:21] <Michiyo> %isup http://downdetector.com
L602[13:07:22] <Michiyo> :P
L603[13:07:23] <MichiBot> Michiyo: http://downdetector.com Is Down.
L604[13:07:59] <Michiyo> Oh
L605[13:08:01] <Michiyo> AWS is down
L606[13:11:16] <gamax92> ahh
L607[13:11:18] <gamax92> that's explain things.
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L609[13:16:12] <Skye> payonel, is there a way to get a random UUID from Lua running in OC?
L610[13:16:38] <MGR> Skye, UUID API
L611[13:16:52] <MGR> ~w UUID
L612[13:16:52] <ocdoc> Predicted http://ocd.cil.li/api:unicode
L613[13:17:10] <MGR> so close ocdoc
L614[13:17:11] <MGR> http://ocdoc.cil.li/api:uuid
L615[13:17:30] <Skye> ah good
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L617[13:18:15] <Michiyo> ~w api uuid
L618[13:18:16] <ocdoc> Predicted http://ocd.cil.li/api:unicode
L619[13:18:18] <Michiyo> hmm..
L620[13:18:21] <Michiyo> gamax92, ^ lolo
L621[13:19:03] <MGR> Skye, don't say I never did anything for you ?
L622[13:20:03] <Skye> Well... @MGR, Thanks for this. :P I only argue with you when I think you're wrong.
L623[13:20:13] <MGR> No problem
L624[13:20:14] <Skye> in this case, you are correct
L625[13:20:31] <MGR> If I wasn't, that would be pretty embarassing
L626[13:20:42] <Skye> about port assignments
L627[13:20:55] <Skye> best option is to just work out what people are currently using
L628[13:21:08] <Skye> but don't write any specification / assignment
L629[13:21:20] <Kodos> Okay, well that was a fun day
L630[13:21:24] <Skye> just create a spreadsheet with all uses and highlight conflicts
L631[13:21:29] <Kodos> Minus the very end of it
L632[13:21:34] <gamax92> uhh
L633[13:22:07] <MGR> Skye, I'm not going to say what people should be using
L634[13:22:11] <gamax92> derp
L635[13:22:11] <ocdoc> DB Update Detected, reloading ..
L636[13:22:12] <ocdoc> Everything's cool
L637[13:22:23] <gamax92> Michiyo: hi please add cron jobs back <3
L638[13:22:28] <MGR> I'm just going to say what's in use, and highlight open areas so people can request to get them added
L639[13:22:35] <MGR> That way it'll reduce conflicts
L640[13:23:42] <Skye> that's... smarter
L641[13:24:11] <Skye> don't call it port assignments
L642[13:24:31] <Michiyo> they're broken?
L643[13:24:32] <Michiyo> ffs
L644[13:24:57] <Skye> @MGR, just call it "Known uses of ports"
L645[13:25:07] <Michiyo> oh ffs gitlab wtf
L646[13:25:33] <MGR> Skye, yeah, that's why I used Reserved Port Assignments
L647[13:25:41] <MGR> It just means that those are the ports I know are in use
L648[13:25:47] <Skye> not reserved
L649[13:25:52] <Skye> gives a bad connotation
L650[13:25:54] <Skye> just "known uses"
L651[13:26:12] <Michiyo> gamax92, or maybe they're just gone what do I have to run to update the db?
L652[13:26:53] <gamax92> Michiyo: genlist.sh weekly
L653[13:27:49] <Michiyo> right, and then running.sh every minute to restart if it dies.
L654[13:27:55] <MGR> I'm not sure what the bad connotation is Skye
L655[13:27:59] <MGR> Can you please elaborate?
L656[13:28:18] <Skye> "reserved"
L657[13:29:52] <Michiyo> ok, in theory those are running gamax92 sorry
L658[13:30:46] <Michiyo> Err:4 https://packages.gitlab.com/gitlab/gitlab-ce/ubuntu xenial/main amd64 gitlab-ce amd64 8.17.1-ce.0
L659[13:30:46] <Michiyo> 404 Not Found
L660[13:30:48] <Michiyo> ._.
L661[13:31:12] <MGR> Skye, ?
L662[13:32:13] <CompanionCube> do gitlab use S3
L663[13:32:19] <CompanionCube> S3 is having issues
L664[13:32:29] <Inari> %inv add shiny gleamy coin
L665[13:32:34] <MichiBot> Inari: Added 'shiny gleamy coin' to inventory.
L666[13:32:53] <Michiyo> They pulled the update it seems
L667[13:33:02] <Michiyo> https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-ce/issues/28830
L668[13:34:50] <gamax92> %flip S3
L669[13:34:54] <MichiBot> gamax92: (╯°□°)╯ƐS
L670[13:34:59] <gamax92> close enough
L671[13:36:18] <Michiyo> Ummm...
L672[13:36:46] <Michiyo> Just heard a report over the scanner that someone has a sign in the window of a semi "Help me I've been kidnapped" :/
L673[13:37:12] <Inari> Probably a troll
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L677[13:48:31] <Michiyo> hopefully...
L678[13:48:42] <Inari> %stab trolls
L679[13:48:45] * MichiBot slaps trolls with Hot bot on bot action doing [9] damage
L680[13:49:27] <MGR> If they were really kidnapped, would the kidnapper let them put a sign up?
L681[13:49:41] <Skye> Inari, lewd
L682[13:49:56] <Inari> If you were abducted but you aren't a kid, are you kidnapped?
L683[13:50:11] <MGR> semantics
L684[13:51:31] <Michiyo> @MGR could have been placed in one of the lower windows on the door, unnoticed.
L685[13:51:58] <Forecaster> !!
L686[13:52:01] <TYKUHN2> If they weren't kidnapped, would the driver let them do that?
L687[13:52:04] <Forecaster> E:D commanders beta is out!
L688[13:52:10] <TYKUHN2> In both cases probably not
L689[13:52:10] <Forecaster> @Lizzy !!
L690[13:52:15] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=we1ounypzc0&t=1151s
L691[13:52:15] <MichiBot> Gold Niconii 10 hours | length: 10h 17s | Likes: 294 Dislikes: 4 Views: 16,293 | by sandenee | Published On 27/4/2015
L692[13:52:25] <MGR> Michiyo, fair point
L693[13:52:26] <Lizzy> Forecaster, if only i had beta access
L694[13:52:36] <Forecaster> aw
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L699[14:20:49] <Michiyo> Oh, and yes, gitlab is using aws for their packages
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L701[14:29:18] <Forecaster> https://twitter.com/DCCampbell/status/836657962164846592
L702[14:29:19] <MichiBot> Tue Feb 28 13:22:57 CST 2017 @DCCampbell: Amazon S3 according to the #AWS status page. https://t.co/WpMAyHs0nY
L703[14:30:13] <Michiyo> yeah, package cloud which uses aws, reports everything is fine..
L704[14:30:15] <Michiyo> lol no.
L705[14:33:02] * Michiyo sighs
L706[14:33:09] <Michiyo> everything but my keyboard came in today
L707[14:33:33] <MGR> @Mimiru your new Ryzen CPU too? ?
L708[14:33:42] * Michiyo bans @MGR
L709[14:33:49] <MGR> nuuuuuuuu
L710[14:34:01] * Lizzy hands Michiyo the hammer
L711[14:35:06] <Michiyo> Not worth the effort of switching to discord..
L712[14:35:11] <Michiyo> Maybe I'll just kick corded :P
L713[14:35:23] <MGR> lol
L714[14:35:29] <Forecaster> woo capital punishment!
L715[14:35:32] <Forecaster> \o/
L716[14:36:26] <Corded> * TYKUHN2 bans Corded
L717[14:37:30] <Corded> * Lizzy waves
L718[14:37:38] <MGR> oh no
L719[14:37:45] <MGR> It was just a prank
L720[14:37:58] <TYKUHN2> It's just a prank bro just a social experiment! ?
L721[14:38:10] <MGR> Don't ban me bro
L722[14:41:52] <MGR> The cooler performed just fine in our tests and looks painful so try not to sit on it.
L723[14:41:59] <MGR> PSA: Don't sit on CPU coolers
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L731[16:19:25] <payonel> o/
L732[16:19:39] <payonel> Inari: i couldn't share cat pics with you today, sorry :(
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L738[16:49:53] <payonel> Inari: https://i.imgur.com/fqxcETv.gifv
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L743[17:09:28] <Inari> payonel: haha :p
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L746[17:20:56] <jazzpi> hm... apparently os.sleep yields enough to stop OC from terminating the program, but not enough to actually allow other coroutines to run
L747[17:24:56] <g> gotta say
L748[17:25:01] <g> windows subsystem for linux is coming on nicel
L749[17:25:03] <g> nicely*
L750[17:25:15] <g> now that dbus is a bit more friendly
L751[17:25:15] <g> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1547120/ShareX/2017/February/vcxsrv_2017-02-28_23-22-22.png
L752[17:25:28] <g> (xfce4)
L753[17:30:01] <g> people have been playing quake and stuff, progress is good
L754[17:31:10] <CompanionCube> congratulations
L755[17:37:39] <Ai> i played with it a bit.. cannot use dbus unless i start the program as root though :/
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L757[17:48:58] <jazzpi> okay so even with a simple test program like http://termbin.com/cnfn i can't get both loops to execute without uncommenting the coroutine.yield()s :|
L758[17:49:35] <S3> so
L759[17:50:37] <jazzpi> MGR: Are you sure pullEvent yields?
L760[18:01:54] <Inari> jazzpi: It might yield to java and abck :P
L761[18:01:57] <Inari> Not to toher routines
L762[18:01:58] <Inari> No clue
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L765[18:04:03] <payonel> jazzpi: ?
L766[18:04:40] <payonel> jazzpi: event.pull calls computer.pullSignal, which definitely yields. that is exactly how os.sleep _sleeps_
L767[18:04:53] <payonel> os.sleep will throw away ALL signals during its sleep time
L768[18:05:32] <payonel> however, the signals are still dispatched to registered event handlers
L769[18:05:50] <payonel> registration is done with event.listen
L770[18:06:13] <payonel> Inari: http://imgur.com/gallery/Z50LQYX
L771[18:06:26] <payonel> http://imgur.com/5EGMcyj
L772[18:09:54] <payonel> but i think i see your confusion, os.sleep doesn't yield to the calling coroutine, os.sleep != coroutine.yield
L773[18:10:16] <payonel> when i said "computer.pullSignal definitely yields" i was referring to "yields to java"
L774[18:11:46] <payonel> when we say your oc machine must yield, we are not talking about just any "coroutine.yield", but rather, yield out of ./init.lua -- that is, you have to yield the entire os runtime, which is done via computer.pullSignal (os.sleep and event.pull call computer.pullSignal)
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L776[18:13:26] <payonel> on a side note -- if you are building your own operating system, coroutine.yield from the root coroutine is also appropriate, but from within openos, your user script is many layers removed from the init coroutine, and you cant just call coroutine.yield
L777[18:13:46] <payonel> so we do not refer to the two (computer.pullSignal and coroutine.yield) as being equivalent
L778[18:15:54] <MGR> payonel, good to know
L779[18:16:16] <MGR> I knew some, but not the details on coroutines
L780[18:19:12] <TYKUHN2> Good coroutine managers should handle yields properly including to java but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L781[18:20:19] <MGR> @TYKUHN2 solid idea for GEOS
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L783[18:26:27] <MGR> Does the file system library work for unmanaged drives?
L784[18:26:41] <MGR> I know the component doesnt, but I don't know about the library
L785[18:27:19] <TYKUHN2> OpenOS has no built in support for Unmanaged drives
L786[18:27:32] <MGR> Darn
L787[18:27:46] <TYKUHN2> ```component.list("drive")()```
L788[18:28:23] <MGR> Support for unmanaged drives may be something to include in GEOS
L789[18:28:40] <TYKUHN2> I've already got a BIOS that boots unmanaged
L790[18:28:41] <MGR> Could help extract maximum performance
L791[18:28:48] <MGR> That's nice
L792[18:29:49] <MGR> I may use that
L793[18:29:55] <MGR> And network boot
L794[18:30:34] <TYKUHN2> It detects format, reads a pointer, then reads until an end file code. Very simple.
L795[18:31:03] <TYKUHN2> I might add network boot. The file is currently 2.4Kb
L796[18:31:42] <MGR> I remember someone had a compression program
L797[18:31:48] <MGR> I forget who though
L798[18:32:35] <TYKUHN2> I'm around 60% filled it's not a major issue
L799[18:33:05] <MGR> It may be worth it to implement a stripped down version of GERTi
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L801[18:38:25] <TYKUHN2> Probably not
L802[18:38:31] <TYKUHN2> Too big and too complex
L803[18:38:38] <MGR> @TYKUHN2 yeah
L804[18:38:47] <TYKUHN2> My BIOS is designed from the start to be minimalistic
L805[18:38:57] <MGR> Well, it has to be
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L807[18:39:54] <MGR> \o/
L808[18:40:12] <MGR> GEOS is so far off, it's all wild speculation right now
L809[19:01:33] <TYKUHN2> "What Minecraft can teach the health care system"
L810[19:02:33] <TYKUHN2> Yeah no
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L819[20:04:25] <TYKUHN2> Brb coding a discord bot
L820[20:05:55] <Temia> Wait, are people genuinely considering porting GEOS to OC?
L821[20:07:28] <Kodos> What is geos
L822[20:07:34] <Temia> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GEOS_(8-bit_operating_system)
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L824[20:18:52] <TYKUHN2> Pretty sure he means GEOS as in "Global Empire Operating System"
L825[20:22:00] <TYKUHN2> "GEOS KERNAL?"
L826[20:26:42] <Temia> Oh.
L827[20:26:50] <Temia> Well that's even more ridiculous.
L828[20:27:57] <Temia> But that's a tangent for a later date. Or maybe never! Never sounds good! I'm honestly sick of giving that farce any attention at this point.
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L831[20:38:35] <MGR> @TYKUHN2 @Kodos Temia, GEOS stands for Global Operating System
L832[20:39:04] <MGR> Global Empire Operating System, my bad
L833[20:39:14] <Temia> Please don't tarnish the name of GEOS.
L834[20:39:31] <MGR> I hope not to
L835[20:39:50] <Temia> But you still will.
L836[20:40:12] <MGR> I'm going to try not to
L837[20:40:49] <Temia> Consider this my vote of no confidence.
L838[20:41:02] <MGR> It's a bit early to pass judgement anyways
L839[20:41:17] <MGR> I haven't even decided on any features or anything at all
L840[20:41:25] <MGR> It's way down on my to do list
L841[20:45:38] <TYKUHN2> Been working on my own OS. Still not sure if I should abandon it. Probably
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L843[21:14:16] <Mimiru> \o/
L844[21:14:34] <Mimiru> new monitors and mount setup
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L846[21:34:23] <Temia> Oh right, I forgot my old version of Quasseldroid doesn't respect the ignore list.
L847[21:34:49] <Temia> Not sure if the new one does or not either, but it's also horribly inefficient so fuck that noise.
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