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L7[02:03:42] <gamax92> %remindme 9h OpenAL Conversion
L8[02:03:42] <MichiBot> I'll remind you about "OpenAL Conversion" at 02/16/2017 11:03:42 AM
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L20[05:44:09] <g> alright Michiyo / Mimiru, can you send me a PM later? Really want to get this crash thing nailed down now that it's not just me xD
L21[05:51:57] <SinaMegapolis> hello
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L23[06:46:54] <Inari> ffs people
L24[06:46:58] <Inari> stop makingme think you're Michiyo
L25[06:47:09] <Inari> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/18783800/ShareX/2017/02/2017-02-16_13-46-52_5VsPFI.png
L26[06:47:54] <MGR> how do you know that isn't her?
L27[06:49:18] <SinaMegapolis> https://oc.cil.li/index.php?/topic/1214-moderncomputers-a-resource-pack-for-opencomputers/
L28[06:51:04] <S3> my university needs to frigging cancel
L29[06:51:15] <MGR> S3, why?
L30[06:51:25] <S3> my fiance started puking apparently she's sick, so I ran to the store right..
L31[06:51:35] <S3> I spun my tires all the way to the top of the hill in first gear
L32[06:51:48] <S3> and slid into many intersections not being able to stop going like 10 mph
L33[06:52:17] <S3> they're being stubborn
L34[06:52:30] <Inari> ?.?
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L36[06:52:49] <S3> Inari: ?
L37[06:52:56] <MGR> S3, that's pretty dangerous
L38[06:53:10] <Inari> What do you mean "cancel", cancel what? Why are you sliding into intersections? What :P
L39[06:53:16] <MGR> even if they don't cancel, you shouldn't go
L40[06:53:20] <MGR> life > school
L41[06:53:23] <S3> http://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/reports-speed-restrictions-in-place-as-noreaster-blasts-new-england-with-heavy-snow/70000872
L42[06:53:26] <S3> Inari: ^
L43[06:53:37] <Inari> Ah :P
L44[06:53:39] <Inari> See that makes more sense
L45[06:53:49] <S3> now
L46[06:53:53] <S3> this weather is actually normal
L47[06:54:04] <S3> but the university not canceling is also normal and should not be
L48[06:54:17] <S3> this one year the roads were all solid ice right
L49[06:54:34] <S3> and some kid died trying to get to his final because they refused to cancel school
L50[06:54:42] <S3> and DOT was trying to tell everyone to stay off
L51[06:55:01] <Inari> Deparmetn Of...?
L52[06:55:03] <S3> have you ever driven on smoothed ice over half an inch thick?
L53[06:55:04] <Inari> Transport?
L54[06:55:08] <S3> department of transportation
L55[06:55:09] <MGR> Inari, yes
L56[06:55:21] <MGR> S3, I have a solution for that, one second
L57[06:55:48] <MGR> https://what-if.xkcd.com/130/
L58[06:55:49] <S3> when ice is that smooth and thick, most people end up getting stuck on hills and stranded, unless you have chains, which you can't go fast in chains..
L59[06:56:33] <MGR> S3, just follow the procedures outlined in that article, and you will be all set
L60[06:56:38] <Inari> You need a tank with spikes
L61[06:56:54] <S3> MGR: LOL
L62[06:57:11] <MGR> S3, ?
L63[06:57:35] <MGR> You might be better off dropping the flamethrower entirely. Instead, take a cue from the rail agencies, who use jet-engine-powered snowblowers to clear train tracks.
L64[06:57:41] <MGR> I've got the jet engine
L65[06:57:49] <MGR> no, wait, I have the snowblower
L66[06:57:53] <MGR> do you have the jet engine S3?
L67[06:58:02] <S3> ...
L68[06:58:32] <MGR> or a big nuclear reactor
L69[06:58:36] <S3> MGR: use a salamander
L70[06:58:40] <S3> that would be more effective
L71[06:58:53] <MGR> S3, I assume you're not referencing the animal?
L72[06:58:55] <S3> fire is too cool
L73[06:59:01] <Inari> Wouldn't a jet engine be counteproductive
L74[06:59:05] <S3> actually
L75[06:59:08] <S3> you know...
L76[06:59:14] <Inari> If you point it to melt the snow infront of you, it would thrust you backwards
L77[06:59:17] <S3> if you heat ice too fast it doesn't melt anyways
L78[06:59:30] <S3> it behaves strangely
L79[06:59:35] <MGR> Inari, you use it to power the snowblower
L80[06:59:38] <Mimiru> g, you are actually on the latest version right? Cause if so I'll need a new stack trace, cause the one on your ticket points to an old line.
L81[06:59:51] <g> should be, only installed it a few days ago
L82[06:59:53] <g> let me check
L83[07:00:15] <g> yis
L84[07:00:52] <Mimiru> then, like I said, I'll need a new stack trace.
L85[07:01:00] <g> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/274667776885522433/281597802365059073/crash-2017-02-15_18.32.53-client.txt
L86[07:01:07] <g> was just getting that
L87[07:01:39] <g> we do have optifine, but this happens without as well
L88[07:02:27] <SinaMegapolis> umm what?! (opening 1.10.2 oc world in forge 1.7.10 :l) http://tinyurl.com/zoredtq
L89[07:02:49] <g> you have railcraft?
L90[07:03:16] <g> oh, misread the different versions
L91[07:03:23] <g> yes that is going to not work lol
L92[07:03:52] <MGR> @SinaMegapolis 1.10 != 1.7.10
L93[07:03:56] <MGR> that won't work
L94[07:04:02] <Mimiru> g, os?
L95[07:04:17] <g> Mimiru, w10
L96[07:04:40] <Mimiru> I'm sure it's in the log somewhere but I'm still waking up
L97[07:04:52] <g> it is, but dw :P
L98[07:04:56] <Mimiru> theres only 2 ways this can be null...
L99[07:05:03] <MGR> http://www.anandtech.com/show/11132/amd-nvidia-post-gdc-2017-event-details
L100[07:05:04] <Mimiru> either your audio device got teleported out of your computer...
L101[07:05:08] <g> pretty sure one of our other guys that has this problem uses linux as well
L102[07:05:15] <Mimiru> or, your audio device exploded.
L103[07:05:17] <MGR> Looks like we'll be seeing Ryzen, Vega, and the 1080Ti soon!
L104[07:05:46] <g> I should point out that the old behaviour still applies
L105[07:05:52] <g> if I get kicked, there's no crash
L106[07:06:24] <g> tbh I think there's a decent chance of this being a problem with forge, but maybe we can mitigate it
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L108[07:07:00] <SinaMegapolis> floppies has labels lol http://tinyurl.com/jrhv96a
L109[07:07:34] <g> this isn't the only problem btw
L110[07:07:39] <Mimiru> stop() calls createEvent(stopped) createEvent calls createEvent(audiodev,stopped)
L111[07:08:05] <Mimiru> the only thing that can be null in that chain, is audiodev
L112[07:08:10] <g> the other one that I've noticed from before is that when a radio is playing nearby and I go to eg the nether, the world doesn't load, you just get stuck sitting there in the void until you reconnect
L113[07:08:11] <g> right, okay
L114[07:09:00] <Mimiru> does it do this every time you quit?
L115[07:09:05] <g> it's intermittent
L116[07:09:10] <g> so, no
L117[07:09:14] <Mimiru> always fun
L118[07:09:29] <Mimiru> well.. I added a nullcheck to the event call
L119[07:09:36] <Mimiru> I dunno if it'll change anything
L120[07:09:52] <g> hmm
L121[07:10:02] <g> well, if the audio device is null I can't really see it being able to play anything
L122[07:12:57] * Saphire cries
L123[07:13:02] <Saphire> Why Android why
L124[07:13:21] <Saphire> I can't move the app from external SD /into internal memory/
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L130[07:24:31] <g> oh yeah, also Mimiru, any chance of using oredict planks in the recipes?
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L132[07:53:19] <Mimiru> g, it seems not..
L133[07:53:22] <Mimiru> :P
L134[07:53:30] <g> What? :P
L135[07:53:44] <Mimiru> java.lang.NullPointerException: Initializing game
L136[07:54:16] <g> Oh, wait, you managed to repro it?
L137[07:54:35] <Mimiru> No
L138[07:54:42] <Mimiru> this is trying to use the god forsaken oredict
L139[07:54:46] <g> oh, right
L140[07:54:54] <g> I dunno, I've never had a problem with it
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L142[08:06:48] <Mimiru> Gotta fucking LOVE outdated lists.
L143[08:07:00] <Lizzy> ?
L144[08:10:31] * vifino snuggles Lizzy
L145[08:10:47] <Corded> * Lizzy snuggles vifino
L146[08:13:36] <20kdc> there's a *god* of the Ore Dictionary?
L147[08:14:15] <vifino> Hey 20kdc.
L148[08:14:27] <Inari> 20kdc: Eloraam
L149[08:15:08] <Forecaster> if there was it wouldn't be forsaken would it?
L150[08:15:29] <Inari> Forecaster: Psh, you and your logic
L151[08:18:08] <Mimiru> g, http://ci.pc-logix.com/job/OpenFM-1.9.4-Exp/3/
L152[08:18:11] <Mimiru> maybe? IDK.
L153[08:19:22] <g> \o/
L154[08:19:31] <g> alright, thanks, I'll push that up and we'll test it
L155[08:29:39] <20kdc> Forecaster: A god must exist *to* forsake it.
L156[08:36:35] <SinaMegapolis> YAY ? http://tinyurl.com/gurcsjj
L157[08:38:37] <Ashindigo_> MineOS doesn't like servers
L158[08:38:46] <Ashindigo_> OpenOS best OS
L159[08:41:26] <g> Mimiru, you did oredict it
L160[08:41:27] <g> but
L161[08:41:31] <g> (oh no)
L162[08:41:37] <g> Nah, it's fine
L163[08:41:40] <g> It works with all the vanilla woods
L164[08:41:44] <g> But not with the modded ones
L165[08:41:56] <g> they're still `plankWood` so I dunno
L166[08:44:13] <g> I am able to disconnect and move between worlds with no problems or unexpected behavior
L167[08:45:12] <g> so I'd say, you've probably fixed that one :P
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L169[08:53:37] <Michiyo> Yeah.. it might be the way I had to get the damn oredict to work, I could have sworn that you could just use "plankWood" or whatever in the recipe and it'd work..
L170[08:53:49] <Michiyo> but I had to do this stupid get method in the oredict class...
L171[08:53:53] <Michiyo> otherwise it'd NPE
L172[08:53:55] <g> yeah, you can
L173[08:53:59] <g> let me check again
L174[08:54:09] <Michiyo> it NPEd every time I tried either woodPlank or plankWood
L175[08:54:27] <Michiyo> I use dye[Color] in OpenPrinter... but planks nped
L176[08:54:47] <g> https://mcforge.readthedocs.io/en/latest/utilities/oredictionary/
L177[08:55:01] <g> looks like yeah you just pass in an IRecipe using oredict names
L178[08:56:04] <Michiyo> IRecipe.. ._>
L179[08:56:06] <Michiyo> ._.*
L180[08:56:53] <Michiyo> Michi, why do you hate modding minecraft?
L181[08:56:54] <Michiyo> ^
L182[08:56:56] <Michiyo> all of it.
L183[08:56:59] <Michiyo> it sucks. :D
L184[08:57:17] <Michiyo> %p
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L186[08:57:18] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Michiyo 0.18s
L187[08:57:27] <g> lol
L188[08:57:30] <Michiyo> did Corded just die
L189[08:57:39] <Michiyo> it seems so.
L190[08:57:44] <g> rip corded
L191[08:57:57] <Mimiru> ._.
L192[08:57:58] <Mimiru> yay corded died.
L193[08:58:04] <Mimiru> There it is
L194[08:58:05] <Michiyo> it just lagged like a mofo
L195[08:58:09] <g> wew
L196[09:00:00] <Michiyo> lol.. oops
L197[09:00:08] <Michiyo> I left the for (String s : OreDictionary.getOreNames()) { debug print in...
L198[09:00:34] <Michiyo> I bet THAT was really spammy on a large mod pack
L199[09:00:49] <Michiyo> I almost said lag pack, instead of mod pack.. which I guess is technically still correct.
L200[09:01:32] <g> 722 lines
L201[09:01:33] <g> xD
L202[09:01:46] <Michiyo> niiice...
L203[09:03:50] <Michiyo> I guess I'm using the wrong GameRegistry.addRecipe...
L204[09:04:07] <Michiyo> but nothing I have uses IRecipe.. and adding that just for oredict is stupid.
L205[09:04:24] <g> They might be moving to prefer IRecipe
L206[09:06:58] <Michiyo> g, I can't run MC at work.. if I run another test build would you... test it?
L207[09:07:05] <g> Can do
L208[09:08:36] <Michiyo> "I have no idea what I'm doing" best commit message evar
L209[09:09:37] <Michiyo> g, http://ci.pc-logix.com/job/OpenFM-1.9.4-Exp/4/
L210[09:09:52] <g> Gotcha
L211[09:09:58] <g> I'll test in a bit, gotta do a few things
L212[09:10:57] <Michiyo> kk
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L215[09:14:24] <g> deploying now
L216[09:18:51] <g> Michiyo, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1547120/ShareX/2017/February/java_2017-02-16_15-18-47.png
L217[09:18:51] <g> \o/
L218[09:19:47] <Michiyo> Nice, k, I'll run a release build then
L219[09:19:55] <g> Everything looks good
L220[09:20:00] <g> thanks for your time \o/
L221[09:20:12] <Michiyo> Thanks for testing
L222[09:27:47] <SinaMegapolis> https://oc.cil.li/index.php?/topic/1214-moderncomputers-a-resource-pack-for-opencomputers/
L223[09:29:53] <Michiyo> I swear I've seen that link before...
L224[09:29:59] <Michiyo> Oh yeah, you posted it a couple of hours ago..
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L226[09:30:54] <SinaMegapolis> ?
L227[09:31:01] <SinaMegapolis> any ideas?
L228[09:31:32] <Michiyo> Oh.. I've got ideas, but they're not nice so I'll keep them to myself.
L229[09:32:39] <S3> so I discovered where A, AA, AAA, C, D, etc batteries came from
L230[09:32:47] <S3> and why there are no B batteries
L231[09:33:16] <Ashindigo_> Why are there no B batteries?
L232[09:33:41] <g> they were mostly used in devices that used vacuum tubes
L233[09:33:45] <SinaMegapolis> michio say them ....
L234[09:33:46] <g> to provide the plate voltage for it
L235[09:33:58] <S3> yeah
L236[09:33:59] <SinaMegapolis> michiyo*
L237[09:34:11] <S3> B type supplies are like 90 volts.
L238[09:34:15] <S3> why would you need that
L239[09:34:16] <S3> lol
L240[09:34:29] <Ashindigo_> Neato
L241[09:34:33] <S3> but yes
L242[09:34:44] <S3> I also figured out why 5V is decided for TTL logic
L243[09:36:20] <S3> it has to do with 5V being 80% of normal operation and preserving tube lifetime
L244[09:36:40] <S3> so they continued to use 5V for those NMOS TTL circuits
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L253[10:42:11] <S3> my mother is obsessed with the button above the keyboard on android smartphones that just says random words it thinks you will say
L254[10:42:20] <S3> she just sent me a facebook message earlier: "I'm sorry for your and she has to become the only person that has a little to say about the other things. The best way and the worst thing ever to get to the point. You have a great time to get a job at all times on a Monday morning. I don't know what you think."
L255[10:44:34] <Corded> * Lizzy likes doing those random word stories to vifino
L256[10:44:46] <Inari> They are fun haha
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L258[10:46:17] zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L259[10:47:52] <Inari> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/277225215753453570/281828992104005632/aca61db91645a42b87a3ad2424bd9acf.png
L260[11:01:20] <MGR> oh S3, I had some road adventures too today!
L261[11:01:37] <MGR> Not dangerous ones, but weird ones that involved me getting lost and driving into a Zoo
L262[11:02:21] <SinaMegapolis> any ideas? https://oc.cil.li/index.php?/topic/1214-moderncomputers-a-resource-pack-for-opencomputers/
L263[11:02:37] <MGR> @SinaMegapolis dude, you've posted that 3 times
L264[11:03:12] <MGR> If people had ideas, they would say them
L265[11:03:46] <MichiBot> REMINDER gamax92 OpenAL Conversion
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L268[11:16:13] <AshIndigo> what do you mean by wrong?>
L269[11:16:19] <AshIndigo> oops
L270[11:16:46] <MGR> ?
L271[11:26:02] <payonel> Inari: https://www.amazon.com/ECYC-Windproof-Balaclava-Motorcycle-Snowmobile/dp/B019PZDB7Y/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1487195523&sr=8-1&keywords=cat%2Bmask%2Bhood&th=1
L272[11:32:38] <MGR> huh
L273[11:32:50] <MGR> I was taking a look around the wiki, and the text API may be useful...
L274[11:42:47] <MGR> Yeah, it should be able to increase the encoding efficiency of bagel
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L276[11:50:25] <Inari> payonel: Thats weird :P
L277[11:51:05] <payonel> :)
L278[11:52:17] <MGR> Wow
L279[11:52:40] <MGR> I should be able to reduce file I/O space overhead by over 70%!
L280[11:54:29] <MGR> Wait
L281[11:54:31] <MGR> Nvm
L282[11:57:04] <MGR> It'll still increase performance though!
L283[12:06:42] <SinaMegapolis> my dream of oc in future ? http://tinyurl.com/hcxam7j
L284[12:08:53] <Kodos> No one cares
L285[12:09:00] <payonel> rude!
L286[12:09:12] <Kodos> Well, you try being nice after almost getting into a car accident
L287[12:09:34] <SinaMegapolis> payonel: why?
L288[12:09:55] * Ashindigo_ gets a cake for kodos
L289[12:10:05] <MGR> Oh hey payonel, did you check out GERT?
L290[12:10:16] <payonel> sina[tab]: i was talking to kodos :)
L291[12:10:39] <payonel> mgr: i did not :( sorry. do you have a setup guide and a first thing i should try doc?
L292[12:10:44] <Ashindigo_> "[tab]"
L293[12:10:57] <payonel> Ashindigo_: yeah, discord sucks
L294[12:11:17] <MGR> payonel, I have a white paper on how it works, and the code itself
L295[12:11:29] <MGR> It isn't finished yet, so I don't have setup docs
L296[12:11:36] <MGR> :(
L297[12:12:38] <SinaMegapolis> payonel i wonder if we can send our customized floppy disks in oc to other people
L298[12:12:48] <MGR> I mostly meant look at the code to see what you think
L299[12:13:00] <payonel> sina - sure, what do you eamN?
L300[12:13:05] <payonel> mean*
L301[12:13:06] <Ashindigo_> you could with another mod if the data is stored in the itemstack itself
L302[12:13:48] <payonel> you can craft a writeable floopy, write data to it, and literally give that to someone in-game
L303[12:14:06] <Ashindigo_> im assuming people in other worlds
L304[12:14:10] <Ashindigo_> (or servers)
L305[12:14:22] <SinaMegapolis> yeah
L306[12:14:34] <SinaMegapolis> mabye we can use a program in openos?
L307[12:15:07] <Ashindigo_> theres pastebin for single files
L308[12:15:36] <SinaMegapolis> so what about multiple files?
L309[12:15:59] <gamax92> you can make a self extracting file
L310[12:16:26] <SinaMegapolis> oh ?
L311[12:16:42] <SinaMegapolis> idk
L312[12:17:04] <SinaMegapolis> and then what?
L313[12:17:17] <SinaMegapolis> sending them to people via pastebin?
L314[12:17:30] <gamax92> you can do whatever you'd like~
L315[12:17:33] <MGR> FTP over GERT?
L316[12:17:42] <gamax92> like putting it on a computronics tape
L317[12:18:56] <SinaMegapolis> hm.......
L318[12:19:07] <CompanionCube> there are many ways to do it depending on who you want to share it with
L319[12:19:28] <gamax92> wait a fucking minute ...
L320[12:20:17] * Ashindigo_ waits a fucking minute
L321[12:20:41] <MGR> Payonel, all you can really do with GERT at the moment is look at the code, and see a computer network in OC self-assemble
L322[12:20:52] <MGR> You can't transmit data yet
L323[12:20:53] <MGR> Yet
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L325[12:23:59] <gamax92> Temia has a serial terminal?
L326[12:24:21] <CompanionCube> gamax92: what?
L327[12:25:14] <gamax92> what?
L328[12:25:19] <SinaMegapolis> gamax92: "temia"? "Serial"?
L329[12:25:44] <Foone> I'm having trouble with a robot failing to move ("go forward" or robot.forward() fail). I did robot.detect() and it returns (true,'entity'). but I can't see anything there
L330[12:25:53] <Foone> is there a way to find out what entity it is?
L331[12:25:54] <MGR> What is a serial terminal?
L332[12:25:58] <vifino> Temia is a nice person... and she has a serial terminal. What's the problem?
L333[12:26:09] <Temia> moo.
L334[12:26:10] <MGR> Foone, do you have Railcraft?
L335[12:26:10] <CompanionCube> that's interesting
L336[12:26:21] * vifino pets Temia
L337[12:26:29] <gamax92> Railcraft heat is blocks not entities
L338[12:26:34] <Mimiru> ugh RC's "heat" blocks
L339[12:26:35] <MGR> Oh
L340[12:26:37] <Temia> Yes, I do have one.
L341[12:26:38] <Foone> railcraft, no
L342[12:26:48] <CompanionCube> MGR: A serial terminal is a very simplistic way to communicate with another computer
L343[12:26:54] <MGR> Ah
L344[12:27:00] <Foone> I figured it was some mod adding something like that. but I have no idea what mod it is, since I can't see the entity
L345[12:27:02] <MGR> Serial terminal for OC?
L346[12:27:09] <Temia> no.
L347[12:27:11] <gamax92> no a real one
L348[12:27:12] <Temia> Physical.
L349[12:27:18] <gamax92> green
L350[12:27:21] <MGR> Oh
L351[12:27:26] <Temia> RS-232.
L352[12:27:38] <Mimiru> Foone, alternatively, try placing something a TE in front of the robot, then break it
L353[12:27:40] <MGR> Cool
L354[12:27:59] <CompanionCube> Temia: is it a terminal in the sense of the VTXXX/ADM3A-type stuff
L355[12:28:03] <CompanionCube> or is it something else
L356[12:28:05] <Mimiru> It might work.. it might not, but it won't hurt to try
L357[12:28:19] <Foone> Mimiru: a TE? so like something like a chest, I guess? I tried placing regular blocks but that didn't help
L358[12:29:05] <Mimiru> yeah a chest should work
L359[12:29:07] <Temia> It is in fact a VT420 model serial terminal.
L360[12:29:20] <Foone> nah, it still thinks there's an entity there
L361[12:29:59] * CompanionCube pets Temia
L362[12:30:26] * Temia mu? '^'
L363[12:30:44] <Foone> (btw, I have a terminal too. it's a dumb terminal, and it's not glass: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpIGukjVYAAYBzl.jpg:large )
L364[12:30:58] <Temia> Oh wow.
L365[12:31:14] <Temia> That's nice and vintage.
L366[12:31:25] <gamax92> aged yellow plastic
L367[12:31:26] <Foone> so this is my server and I can install new mods, do you know of any mod I could install that'd let me find out what entity is there?
L368[12:31:28] <CompanionCube> It looks to be an actual tty in the sense of the word
L369[12:31:49] <Temia> Does anyone even sell dot matrix feed printer anymore?
L370[12:32:08] <Temia> printer paper*
L371[12:32:14] <CompanionCube> most likely
L372[12:32:15] <Foone> yeah. office depot/max sells it online, cause it's still used
L373[12:32:17] <CompanionCube> if you look enough
L374[12:32:19] <gamax92> Foone: which mc version is it?
L375[12:32:19] <Mimiru> a lot of businesses use it, so yes
L376[12:32:23] <Foone> this uses thermal paper rolls, though
L377[12:32:31] <Temia> Oh!
L378[12:32:41] <Foone> gamax92: 1.10.2
L379[12:32:48] <gamax92> okay
L380[12:32:49] <Temia> Well that makes sense too, I suppose.
L381[12:33:08] <Foone> I don't currently have a dot matrix printer but it's on my to-buy list. looking for a good working one that's not too big
L382[12:33:08] <Temia> I didn't know you could get thermal paper that large either. o: tmyk.jpg
L383[12:35:26] * CompanionCube would try to see if he could emulate a period-appropriate UNIX for his terminal and then try to use it
L384[12:35:30] <CompanionCube> if i had one
L385[12:36:28] <Temia> If TRU64 UNIX didn't require a license key that can no longer be acquired, I'd toy with it on one of my old alphastations. .-.
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L387[12:36:38] <gamax92> Foone: I'm gonna whip up a build of OC that's a bit more descriptive on what the entity is
L388[12:37:09] <Temia> Sadly I'm probably going to have to discard them, and put the terminal into storage...
L389[12:37:34] <CompanionCube> Temia: does anything from https://winworldpc.com/product/tru64
L390[12:37:37] <CompanionCube> work
L391[12:39:42] <Foone> gamax92: thanks
L392[12:40:01] <Temia> Presumably, but for lack of an actual license I'd only get basic functionality .-.
L393[12:40:48] <CompanionCube> better than nothing i guess
L394[12:41:12] <gamax92> "I can read scala"
L395[12:41:12] <gamax92> *looks at this file*
L396[12:41:12] <gamax92> "I can't read scala"
L397[12:41:20] <Temia> ...eh, it's better than what I can get out of NetBSD
L398[12:41:52] <Temia> Compatibility in name only, that one is.
L399[12:42:26] <Temia> Anyway it's moot because I'm moving in a little over a month, and I'm packing light.
L400[12:43:37] <Foone> I'm about to move too (next monday), and man there's nothing like having to pack it away to make you realize how much shit you have
L401[12:43:47] * CompanionCube hopes you give it to someone who gives a fuck
L402[12:46:32] <Foone> that's what you should always do with old computer junk. there's always someone who wants it
L403[12:47:00] <Temia> I'm in a decent place for a tech crowd, but I'm also too stressed out to even show my face in public, so I haven't been able to hand off any of it yet.
L404[12:47:15] <MGR> CompanionCube, I've come up with a mild enhancement to bagel
L405[12:47:37] <Temia> Putting the terminal in storage, though. I do NOT want to lose that as not only is it vintage, it's useful for embedded devices.
L406[12:48:01] <Skye> Temia, I can give you a Windows NT ISO that's compatible with alpha
L407[12:48:34] <Skye> NT4 or NT3.51
L408[12:48:36] <Temia> It's fine, Skye. I've got bigger things to worry about.
L409[12:49:10] <Skye> Ah well
L410[12:50:44] <Temia> Thank you though. You too, Cube
L411[12:51:38] <Skye> If you want to give it to someone who cares about it, put it on a place like ebay
L412[12:52:07] <Skye> Rather than just discarding it.
L413[12:53:43] <Skye> Well... It's more likely to reach someone who likes stuff then.
L414[12:57:28] <Foone> Yeah. If you put it on ebay, I'll see it. I try to see everything in the vintage computing section
L415[13:01:25] <CompanionCube> oh, and if you have a keyboard only give it away with the machine, not seperately
L416[13:02:19] <CompanionCube> there are idiots who care more about keyboards and switches than the actual boxen ._.
L417[13:03:26] <Lizzy> Forecaster, E:D STREAM!
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L419[13:04:37] <gamax92> Foone: sorry about that, http://gamax92.pc-logix.com/OpenComputers-MC1.10.2-1.6.2-dev-Entity.jar
L420[13:04:55] <gamax92> when it hits an entity instead of saying "entity" it gives the class name of it
L421[13:04:58] <Forecaster> :D
L422[13:05:01] <Temia> Lizzy: hm?
L423[13:05:11] <Lizzy> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEeVParEpeg
L424[13:05:12] <MichiBot> On the Horizon - 2.3 The Commanders Beta Livestream, Part 2 | length: 0 milliseconds | Likes: 281 Dislikes: 6 Views: 2,264 | by Elite Dangerous | Published On 14/2/2017
L425[13:05:23] <Temia> That's funny, I think a friend of mine just started one a minute ago.
L426[13:05:36] <gamax92> on that note my dislike of scala increases
L427[13:05:39] <Temia> Not in such an official capacity though.
L428[13:06:24] <MGR> *waves Scala near gamax92*
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L430[13:07:36] <Foone> gamax92: thanks! I'll test it when I get back home
L431[13:09:11] <Foone> CompanionCube: indeed. I was trying to find a keyboard for my IBM 5150 PC and its impossible for under 120$ because they've all been scavenged by mechanical keyboard guys
L432[13:10:30] <CompanionCube> Foone: I didn't *use* to hate them but after hanging out in an unamed retrocomputing channel i now hate them very much
L433[13:14:49] <gamax92> alright, now to go look into this openal stuff
L434[13:14:52] <gamax92> Vexatos: halp
L435[13:15:35] <Vexatos> AHAHAHAHA
L436[13:15:39] <Vexatos> As if I knew how the stuff worked
L437[13:15:46] <Vexatos> How to OpenAL
L438[13:15:51] <Vexatos> Step 1: Call functions until it works
L439[13:15:53] <Vexatos> Done
L440[13:16:05] <gamax92> How to OpenAL, something about buffers and infinitely loop filling buffers as openal unfills
L441[13:16:10] <Foone> CompanionCube: yeah. I don't really have anything against them if they use new parts
L442[13:16:19] <Foone> it's the destruction of old hardware I'm not happy with
L443[13:16:20] <Vexatos> Yea sound card space is limited D:
L444[13:16:23] <Foone> some of us need that old hard ware
L445[13:16:42] <Foone> the PC/XT used a different keyboard protocol, I need the keyboards with that special controller
L446[13:16:49] <Foone> they're just gonna rip the controller out and replace it with a USB one
L447[13:17:27] <Vexatos> gamax92, what are you working on
L448[13:17:37] <gamax92> Vexatos: OpenFM
L449[13:17:54] <gamax92> It uses java audio to play audio but java audio is garbage and tries to use alsa incorrectly
L450[13:18:37] <Vexatos> Nice
L451[13:19:04] <Vexatos> I would probably help you if I knew OpenAL :P
L452[13:19:26] <Vexatos> Sound card noise is still louder two blocks away from the source for some reason so I clearly don't get it yet :3
L453[13:19:45] <gamax92> literally in a pulseaudio environment the fake alsa device is set as default so alsa applications do this: 'alsa [pulse] -> pulseaudio -> alsa [hardware]'
L454[13:20:00] <gamax92> java is doing this: 'alsa [hardware]', bypassing pulseaudio
L455[13:20:15] <Vexatos> but why
L456[13:20:16] <Temia> bleh, pulse .v.
L457[13:20:21] * Temia hugs JACK
L458[13:21:02] <gamax92> there was a time yesterday that I was getting no audio from OpenFM and it's because java was trying to play to the nvidia hdmi port
L459[13:21:11] <Temia> .
L460[13:21:13] <Temia> WOW.
L461[13:21:27] <Temia> That's some weirdass device selection.
L462[13:22:14] <Foone> that's why on my linux laptop I have specifically disabled all audio ports other than bluetooth
L463[13:22:34] <Foone> because sometimes it'll lose connection to my headphones and decide to start playing trance music loudly at my coworkers
L464[13:23:23] <MaDmaxwell_Work> I saw a guy who had a problem to where whenever he plugged in his microphone to his computer it would be chosen as the default sound device
L465[13:25:20] * CompanionCube wishes Firefox didn't force pulseaudio in 52+
L466[13:26:05] <MGR> And what better dogma to spread than the supremacy of the PC? Sure, my followers won't even known what a PC is for about another 3500 years, but gods are supposed to be unknowable anyhow.
L467[13:26:13] <XDjackieXD> my audio setup is pretty weird but it works(TM). Alsa -> Pulse -> Jack :>
L468[13:26:56] <MGR> Parisian" becomes a Celtic word for something very stubborn that is not worth fighting for.
L469[13:27:17] * CompanionCube has never used JACK
L470[13:27:25] <gamax92> also have never used jack here
L471[13:27:28] <XDjackieXD> JACK2 is amazing :>
L472[13:27:32] <MGR> never heard of jack
L473[13:27:51] <vifino> No surprise.
L474[13:27:58] <XDjackieXD> xD
L475[13:28:00] <MGR> ?
L476[13:29:23] <MGR> All hail the holy PC! It is truly a miracle! A slightly fish-scented, Swedish miracle! Assuming they don't pull a Russia and back out when my forces are already committed, this is terrific news.
L477[13:29:45] * Forecaster is hyped for multicrew
L478[13:30:35] <Temia> Speaking of being committed
L479[13:30:46] * Temia gets out a straitjacket.
L480[13:30:54] <MGR> Temia, what?
L481[13:30:58] * CompanionCube raises eyes
L482[13:31:04] <vifino> YOU'LL NEVER CATCH ME ALIVE!!!
L483[13:31:08] * vifino runs
L484[13:31:09] * gamax92 catches vifino
L485[13:31:14] * vifino dies
L486[13:31:19] <gamax92> :<
L487[13:31:21] <Temia> .
L488[13:31:28] <Temia> That's not who it was for
L489[13:31:43] <Forecaster> how does one raise ones eyes
L490[13:31:47] <Temia> ...now how am I going to explain this to Lizzy D:
L491[13:31:49] <Forecaster> I must learn this skill
L492[13:31:53] <gamax92> Forecaster: raise your body
L493[13:32:07] <MGR> Temia, who's the straitjacket for?
L494[13:32:11] <gamax92> herself>
L495[13:32:14] * Lizzy flies after vifino and snuggles him to the ground
L496[13:32:14] * Temia tosses the straitjacket at MGR halfheartedly, goes to resurrect Vifino by opening a can of tuna
L497[13:32:29] <MGR> Temia, and why do I need a straitjacket?
L498[13:33:18] * vifino instantly returns back to life and grabs the can from Temia, omnomnom
L499[13:33:45] <Temia> success~
L500[13:34:13] <gamax92> the minotaur is a necromancer D:
L501[13:35:00] <Lizzy> also Temia, what are you going to need to explain to me?
L502[13:35:08] <Temia> No, a nekomancer.
L503[13:35:11] <Temia> obviously.
L504[13:35:25] <Temia> Well, that Vifino was dead but he got better.
L505[13:38:34] <MGR> I had thought for sure that at least Sweden would declare war on Germany, considering declaring war on Germany has been one of the hallmarks of Swedish culture for hundreds of years.
L506[13:40:34] <Temia> ...now I want to see a game where nekomancer is a class.
L507[13:41:29] <XDjackieXD> ^^
L508[13:41:36] <XDjackieXD> would be pretty awesome :P
L509[13:42:17] <Vexatos> Temia: Bless JACK
L510[13:42:48] <Temia> \o/
L511[13:43:24] <Vexatos> Temia, wouldn't surprise me to find it in just about every second trash JRPG
L512[13:44:20] <Temia> Having played a lot of "trash" JRPGs I can assure you it isn't.
L513[13:44:23] <MGR> The Swedes randomly declaring war on me was the straw that broke the tattooed forest warrior's back
L514[13:45:05] <MGR> Starting next Wednesday, we shall turn in our plaid and our shamrocks for pungent fish and legendary facial hair.
L515[13:45:18] <MGR> End of Celtic Chronicle
L516[13:45:26] <Vexatos> Temia, if they aren't trash you haven't played any :P
L517[13:45:40] <Vexatos> And trust me, you don't want to play the bad ones
L518[13:46:45] <gamax92> kinda trust Temia more than you :P
L519[13:49:25] <g> oh man, just had a thought
L520[13:49:41] <g> what if there was an rftools screen module that could make use of OC component APIs?
L521[13:49:50] <g> just for display of course
L522[13:50:39] <g> that'd be neat
L523[13:51:20] <Lizzy> Forecaster, aww, can't do multicrew and wings
L524[13:51:34] <Lizzy> there goes my idea for having 4 people in 2 ships
L525[13:52:04] <MGR> g, create an interface program in OC?
L526[13:52:49] <g> You'd need an actual separate item for it
L527[13:53:00] <g> RFTools screens are basically containers for module items
L528[13:53:33] <MGR> oh
L529[13:53:36] <g> you add your modules, optionally after linking them to a block, and then configure them from the screen gui
L530[13:54:30] <Forecaster> Lizzy: I'm kinda okay with that though
L531[13:54:47] <Forecaster> I don't have that many friends that play E:D anyway :P
L532[14:01:18] <Vexatos> g: RFTools has had that for a year at least :X
L533[14:01:26] <Vexatos> It's just not ported to 1.10 yet
L534[14:01:30] <g> Ah, I see, okay
L535[14:02:07] <gamax92> s/that play E:D //
L536[14:02:07] <MichiBot> <Forecaster> I don't have that many friends anyway :P
L537[14:05:01] <gamax92> right I forgot how bad old OpenFM's networking code
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L539[14:10:13] <Sangar> o/
L540[14:10:37] <Sangar> what, no tells? i'm disappointed in you, Vexatos
L541[14:10:57] <MGR> Hello Sangar!
L542[14:10:59] <MGR> How are you?
L543[14:11:06] <vifino> %tell Sangar I ain't no Vexatos, but at least I start with v!
L544[14:11:06] <MichiBot> vifino: Sangar will be notified of this message when next seen.
L545[14:11:09] <Sangar> fine fine, thanks, self?
L546[14:11:20] <Sangar> vifino, thanks, much better now. i felt like i was missing something
L547[14:11:27] <vifino> You're welcome. <3
L548[14:11:33] <Sangar> :3
L549[14:11:37] <gamax92> Sangar: 'Some(_@(_: EntityLivingBase | _: EntityMinecart))' wtf is this
L550[14:11:50] <Sangar> scala at it's absolute best/worst
L551[14:12:22] <Michiyo> gamax92, yes, it was horrible, I inherited that code, and I hated it, but CBA to fix it, you're is FUCKTONS better for sure.
L552[14:12:26] <MGR> Sangar, I'm doing pretty well
L553[14:12:31] <Vexatos> %tell Sangar robots still vanishing, HDDs still resetting, world still on fire
L554[14:12:31] <MichiBot> Vexatos: Sangar will be notified of this message when next seen.
L555[14:12:33] <Sangar> if x match { that }, then it means if (x instanceof EntityLivingBase || x instanceof EntityMinecart) {
L556[14:12:50] <gamax92> Michiyo: was gonna consider to backport mine to 1.7.10
L557[14:12:50] <Sangar> Vexatos, this is fine
L558[14:13:23] <Vexatos> gamax92, Scala is an esoteric language, can't you tell
L559[14:13:40] <Sangar> ^
L560[14:13:45] <Sangar> worst guarded secret ever
L561[14:14:18] <gamax92> Michiyo: I'm just confused where the actual playback part is, I'm guess it's the run() in PlayerDispatcher?
L562[14:15:51] <gamax92> oh right I have VisualVM hmm
L563[14:17:55] <Lizzy> Forecaster, speaking of E:D stuff, have you seen the updates for HCS Voicepacks?
L564[14:20:34] <Michiyo> sorry gamax92 customers keep happening... or well people come in and don't by anything but distract me
L565[14:20:35] <Michiyo> :P
L566[14:20:39] <Michiyo> like.. now
L567[14:20:40] <Michiyo> again
L568[14:23:47] <gamax92> gee it would probably help if the code I'm looking at corresponds to the code I'm running... oops
L569[14:24:57] <g> Michiyo, no problems so far, and we've had a bunch of people on since I deployed that fix
L570[14:25:01] <g> so yeah I'd say, good job \o/
L571[14:29:10] <gamax92> oh okay I see, decodeFrame is called in an infinite loop
L572[14:29:24] <gamax92> it also seems like that would stop playing after MAX_INT frames though
L573[14:29:55] * Lizzy pets the sleeping vifino on her lap
L574[14:31:04] <gamax92> I feel like that's supposed to just be an infinite loop, ...
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L576[14:43:10] <gamax92> Michiyo: btw what branch do you want PR's to?
L577[14:45:46] <Michiyo> gamax92, 1.7 I guess, I can port changes around as long as it's not to much in the network stuff lol
L578[14:46:02] <Michiyo> and IDK, that's just how all of the other javazoom based players do it..
L579[14:46:56] <Michiyo> and I had to rip out the entire player system to get what I wanted to work, to work, and I still don't understand it all that well, so I went with it
L580[14:47:02] <Michiyo> g, \o/ awesome
L581[14:47:14] <gamax92> Michiyo: well, it'll stop playing after ...
L582[14:47:18] <gamax92> %lua 2^31-1
L583[14:47:18] <MichiBot> 2147483647
L584[14:47:21] <gamax92> that many frames
L585[14:47:22] <Michiyo> yeah, I know
L586[14:47:41] <Michiyo> I commented on that yesterday actually lol
L587[14:48:10] <Michiyo> https://oclogs.pc-logix.com/parser.php?log=2017-02-15.log#L284
L588[14:48:35] * Michiyo hugs oclogs
L589[15:08:18] <Kodos> Lol
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L591[15:08:41] <TYKUHN2> Nvidia Card crashing? Increase TDR delay. Ofc
L592[15:09:41] <Forecaster> (yay line linking)
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L594[15:15:23] <Michiyo> Horrible feature, terrible! Going to remove it now.
L595[15:15:24] <Michiyo> :P
L596[15:16:01] <Michiyo> Half the code in the stuff I wrote isn't mine anymore.. lol
L597[15:16:58] <TYKUHN2> Odd
L598[15:17:25] <TYKUHN2> AAAANNNDDD Nvidia installer just failed
L599[15:27:38] <gamax92> first openal test!
L600[15:27:54] <gamax92> didn't crash, no audio
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L602[15:35:21] <gamax92> mmh ... openal isn't reporting any errors and it's reporting that buffers are filling ...
L603[15:38:21] <Michiyo> so, is this a replacement to javazoom, and the spis or is this added on?
L604[15:39:21] <gamax92> Michiyo: javazoom is still doing the audio decoding but then the raw audio get's put into openal instead of javazoom's stuff
L605[15:39:32] <Michiyo> ahh, kk
L606[15:45:33] <gamax92> Michiyo: it's playing stuff :D
L607[15:45:41] <Michiyo> \o/
L608[15:46:53] <gamax92> it's glitchy as hell right now but it's indeed playing through MC's audio stuff and through pulseaudio directly
L609[15:58:12] <MGR> well dang
L610[15:58:20] <MGR> my MC server is hitting my CPU pretty hard
L611[16:01:14] <MGR> I may need to OC further than originally anticipated
L612[16:01:46] <Ashindigo_> You need to open computers further?
L613[16:01:55] <MGR> Ashindigo_, overclock
L614[16:02:18] <MGR> I've got a 200MHz OC on my i7 6850K, but I'm probably going to need to amp that up further
L615[16:02:20] <Ashindigo_> Makes more sense
L616[16:02:35] <MGR> from 3.8GHz right now to ~4.4 GHz
L617[16:03:32] <MGR> well, I more than doubled the RAM and disabled the GUI, and it seems ok now
L618[16:04:43] <MGR> yeah, it looks like we're good
L619[16:04:49] <MGR> I'm still going to OC harder though ?
L620[16:05:22] <gamax92> oh, now it sounds perfect
L621[16:05:41] <Michiyo> gamax92, \o/
L622[16:06:16] <gamax92> note to self: don't tell al to play something when it's already playing it because it'll restart from the beginning
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L624[16:10:51] <MGR> wew
L625[16:10:59] <MGR> booting at 4.2GHz now
L626[16:11:04] <MGR> running Prime95 to verify
L627[16:11:19] <IzayaXMPP> you're playing with forces you don't understand, MGR
L628[16:11:37] <MGR> IzayaXMPP, psh
L629[16:11:43] <MGR> I've got a Rampage V Edition 10
L630[16:11:46] <MGR> There
L631[16:11:56] <MGR> 's lots of buttons I can push to save my butt if something goes wrong
L632[16:12:14] <IzayaXMPP> Unless your CPU turns into a pile of molten slag
L633[16:12:47] <S3> MAN
L634[16:12:58] <S3> what did I get myself in to
L635[16:13:09] <MGR> Izaya, I have a 3x120mm fans and 1x200mm fan on my case
L636[16:13:15] <S3> I have 3 professors in my political science class
L637[16:13:16] <MGR> Also a Noctua NH D15
L638[16:13:20] <MGR> I am not in want of cooling
L639[16:13:26] <S3> and all three of them have told me, WTF IS A EE STUDENT DOING IN HERE
L640[16:13:27] <S3> lol
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L642[16:13:56] <IzayaXMPP> S3: "Being political"?
L643[16:14:13] <S3> it's hard stuff
L644[16:14:14] <IzayaXMPP> MGR, cooling can't save you from subatomic physics
L645[16:14:16] <IzayaXMPP> probably
L646[16:14:47] <MGR> Izaya, I've got my eye on the temps
L647[16:15:00] <MGR> CoreTemp and P95 are there to tell me I've gone too far
L648[16:16:15] <MGR> stable so far ?
L649[16:16:40] <MGR> Izaya, FYI, the last time I tried overclocking, I went too far too fast and wrecked my system
L650[16:16:56] <MGR> Also it didn't help that my 960 Evo died in 1 day
L651[16:17:02] <MGR> Made things much harder to sort out
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L653[16:18:18] <Kodos> Anyone in an MC instance atm with OC installed?
L654[16:18:59] <MGR> @Kodos I can be
L655[16:19:02] <MGR> what do you need?
L656[16:19:19] <Kodos> I need something tested
L657[16:19:20] <MGR> actually I lied sorry
L658[16:19:28] <MGR> Dinner is ready
L659[16:19:30] <Kodos> Lol
L660[16:19:37] <Kodos> I'll test it later
L661[16:19:42] <MGR> If it can wait until after dinner, I can do it then!
L662[16:19:44] <S3> I could fire up OCEmu?
L663[16:19:44] <Kodos> Sure
L664[16:19:47] <S3> on another laptop
L665[16:19:52] <Kodos> S3 not sure this can be tested in emu
L666[16:19:56] <Kodos> I'm not familiar with it
L667[16:19:56] <S3> ah
L668[16:20:27] <Kodos> But I want to test how well a rack can handle incoming server traffic for 4 servers, or whether I need a buffer relay block with upgrades
L669[16:20:56] <Kodos> This is really why I want a rack mounted relay though; I know that I can configure the rack's default tier in the config but that's super annoying and not always available
L670[16:21:15] <IzayaXMPP> MGR, temperatures won't save you from liquefecation
L671[16:21:28] <IzayaXMPP> (please turn into a puddle so I don't have to deal with your BS :D )
L672[16:21:51] <MGR> Izaya, A. How can my CPU turn into a liquid at a low temperature?
L673[16:21:55] <MGR> B. What BS?
L674[16:22:06] *** Keridos is now known as Keridos|away
L675[16:22:08] <IzayaXMPP> subatomic physics magic
L676[16:22:12] <IzayaXMPP> and your shitty encryption BS
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L678[16:22:43] <MGR> Izaya, A. Subatomic physics is magic, but I don't think it causes spontaneous liquefaction of a CPU
L679[16:22:45] <S3> MBR We SHALL DEVELOP A LIQUID CPU!
L680[16:22:48] <MGR> also, I have 2 computers
L681[16:23:02] <MGR> B. Izaya, Bagel will get better in the future
L682[16:23:07] <S3> you can develop a cpu in a liquid.
L683[16:23:19] <MGR> I've already come up with a minor evolution that reduces encoding overhead and improves performance
L684[16:23:23] <S3> a friend of mine did a lot of research on biological / chemical computers.
L685[16:23:40] <MGR> Dramatically if you're I/O bound
L686[16:23:41] <S3> you can effectively build a very slow accumulator using organic mass
L687[16:23:43] <MGR> S3, damn right
L688[16:23:54] <S3> which could be a liquid
L689[16:24:01] <MGR> not even biologically, but you can make liquid CPUs
L690[16:24:18] <S3> lol
L691[16:24:31] <MGR> liquid CPUs that WORK to clarify
L692[16:24:50] <S3> I dunno what I did wrong
L693[16:24:59] <S3> but I'm getting VGA VESA buffer bleeding on my OS
L694[16:25:08] <MGR> wat
L695[16:25:10] <S3> it's like hello world BLARGH RAINBOWS ON THE SCREEN
L696[16:25:14] <S3> that's not supposed to happen
L697[16:25:16] <MGR> in any event
L698[16:25:18] <MGR> dinner time
L699[16:25:27] <MGR> also, my OC is still going strong Izaya ?
L700[16:25:38] <MGR> at only 78C
L701[16:25:42] <MGR> AFK
L702[16:26:16] <S3> also I did come up with a name for my HW OS
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L706[16:52:55] <gamax92> okay, now to convert the ogg player to openal
L707[16:55:16] <MGR> 4.2 GHz on 1.2V holding strong!
L708[16:57:02] <MGR> S3, what's the name for your OC OS?
L709[16:57:10] <S3> Xlii
L710[16:57:27] <S3> oh no this is the hardware part
L711[16:57:28] <S3> not OC
L712[16:57:34] <MGR> what?
L713[16:57:35] <S3> e OC os is S3IX
L714[16:57:41] <S3> there's two parts
L715[16:57:47] <S3> there's an OS that runs on your computer at home
L716[16:57:50] <S3> and one that runs on OC..
L717[16:57:54] <MGR> oh
L718[16:58:05] <MGR> do you need both?
L719[16:58:07] <S3> the one I am creating that runs on your computer at home is Xlii
L720[16:58:10] <S3> yep
L721[16:58:12] <S3> well
L722[16:58:15] <S3> no but I do
L723[16:58:29] <MGR> ok
L724[16:58:34] <S3> Bet you can't pronounce it :D
L725[16:58:51] <MGR> there's a number of ways it could be pronounced
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L727[17:01:22] <Michiyo> Is it 42..? :P
L728[17:01:36] <Lizzy> 666
L729[17:01:49] <Michiyo> Woe to thee oh earth and sea..
L730[17:02:14] <Lizzy> For the Devil sends the beast with wrath because he knows time is short
L731[17:02:42] <Michiyo> Let him who hath understanding reckon the number of the beast
L732[17:03:06] <Lizzy> for it is a human number
L733[17:03:13] <Michiyo> Its number is Six hundred and sixty six
L734[17:03:25] * Lizzy guitars
L735[17:03:40] * Ashindigo_ drums
L736[17:03:45] <S3> Michiyo: yeah! sorta.
L737[17:03:45] <Michiyo> heh
L738[17:03:58] <S3> Michiyo: it's pronounced "System 42"
L739[17:04:09] <Lizzy> na, System of a Down
L740[17:04:14] <Michiyo> B.Y.O.B
L741[17:05:16] <Michiyo> PoGo Gen 2 just dropped!
L742[17:07:00] <IzayaXMPP> BYOG
L743[17:10:14] <Lizzy> https://imgur.com/gallery/VgxcD
L744[17:12:04] <IzayaXMPP> TIL ther terminator project wasn't government-funded
L745[17:13:29] <S3> MGR The website I am building for this OS only has one thing on it atm, a quote
L746[17:13:34] <S3> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/2ARiZeJG/
L747[17:26:29] <MGR> ok
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L749[17:38:10] <g> Michiyo, are radios and speakers supposed to have the same recipe now?
L750[17:38:12] <g> just noticed xD
L751[17:41:59] <gamax92> ogg player not cooperating
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L753[17:48:49] <gamax92> the mp3 player is converter and working pretty well now but the ogg player just keeps immediately stopping the al source
L754[17:58:29] <Mimiru> g, umm... what?
L755[17:58:37] <g> Mimiru, yep
L756[17:58:51] <g> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1547120/ShareX/2017/February/java_2017-02-16_23-58-48.png
L757[17:58:59] <g> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1547120/ShareX/2017/February/java_2017-02-16_23-58-57.png
L758[17:59:18] <Mimiru> ffs did I copy-paste the same recipe twice
L759[18:00:29] <Mimiru> GOD DAMN IT.
L760[18:00:41] <g> haha
L761[18:00:43] <g> it happens
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L763[18:05:42] <gamax92> Mimiru: taking a break, can't get the ogg player to work on the new code
L764[18:06:11] <Mimiru> Take your time, thanks gamax92
L765[18:06:34] <Mimiru> Wait
L766[18:06:37] <Mimiru> what the fuck...
L767[18:06:46] <Mimiru> how is this file different between git and local
L768[18:08:05] <Mimiru> OH MUH GAWD... COULD EVERYTHING STOP LAGGING FUCKING PLEASE?!
L769[18:09:26] <Mimiru> wtf...
L770[18:09:31] <Mimiru> why is HEAD a commit behind?!
L771[18:09:41] <MGR> Mimiru, I have a friend that is Lag incarnate
L772[18:09:50] <MGR> I'll tell him to stop messing you up
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L774[18:13:23] <Mimiru> g, build 22 fixes it
L775[18:13:28] <g> gotcha, thanks
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L778[18:34:12] <TYKUHN2> @MGR Finished the documentation. Could use a once over for typos and english failures. I don't convey ideas well.
L779[18:34:33] <TYKUHN2> (It's been finished for a while I just haven't mentioned it ? )
L780[18:35:19] <TYKUHN2> Oh and Nvidia actually fixed thier shit! ?
L781[18:43:41] <TYKUHN2> Damnit this is going to get approved or declined! I am too active to let this go unchecked.
L782[18:45:19] <TYKUHN2> Submitted an issue
L783[18:45:25] <TYKUHN2> Don't care how deals with it
L784[18:45:29] <TYKUHN2> who*
L785[18:45:34] <TYKUHN2> Don't care hwho deals with it
L786[18:45:39] <TYKUHN2> Don't care who deals with it
L787[18:47:44] <MGR> I'm here
L788[18:48:43] <MGR> @TYKUHN2 I saw the commit a few days ago
L789[18:48:49] <MGR> I'll go over it in-depth tomorrow
L790[18:49:52] <TYKUHN2> If it's declined I have something to do. If it's accepted I have the first bugfix to release along with internal variables to modify.
L791[18:50:51] <MGR> @TYKUHN2 A. You commited directly, so there's nothing for me to approve/deny
L792[18:51:02] <MGR> B. https://github.com/GlobalEmpire/GERT/blob/master/GERTe/GENS%20Server.lua line 65, what is a Nagel?
L793[18:51:21] <TYKUHN2> That looks badly spelled let me double check spelling
L794[18:52:02] <TYKUHN2> It is misspelled but it's a comment so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L795[18:52:22] <TYKUHN2> Nagle's Algorithim is used to speed up network transmissions by grouping multiple transmissions together.
L796[18:52:31] <Kodos> Well that was a fucking shitshow
L797[18:52:39] <TYKUHN2> I probably should disable it but I close the socket immediately anyways.
L798[18:53:10] <TYKUHN2> (Nagle's is notorious for slowing down immediate transmissions but decreasing overhead)
L799[18:53:38] <TYKUHN2> By doing one transmission and a close it should just group everything anyways.
L800[18:54:06] <MGR> ahhhh ok
L801[18:54:16] <TYKUHN2> Alternative was to transmit each line individually.
L802[18:54:25] <MGR> even if you spelled it right, I still wouldn't have known what you meant XD
L803[18:54:40] <MGR> Do what you think is best
L804[18:54:50] <MGR> I'm not read up on TCP and stuff and things
L805[18:56:33] <TYKUHN2> I should have BFG lying around. I can scrub the history for odditys
L806[18:57:45] <MGR> BFG?
L807[19:01:18] <TYKUHN2> Git history mass modifyier. I used it to remove actidental copyright breach (thankfully unpublished)
L808[19:05:26] <MGR> ah
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L819[21:15:08] <S3> whee
L820[21:15:24] <S3> https://9600-baud.github.io/xlii/
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L827[23:03:12] <Kodos> ~w Rack
L828[23:03:12] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/block:rack
L829[23:04:28] <Kodos> What's the new functionality for internal/external, or is the wiki accurate
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L832[23:16:38] <gamax92> ocdoc: is the wiki up to date?
L833[23:16:38] <ocdoc> no
L834[23:18:00] <gamax92> I'mma go cook up an egg or something
L835[23:23:21] <Kodos> lol
L836[23:23:24] <Kodos> I'm gonna go to bed
L837[23:23:26] <Kodos> Because sleep sounds nice
L838[23:23:36] <Kodos> I'll test my network flood protection in the morning
L839[23:29:45] <payonel> gamax92: for memory profiling, have you looked at collectgarbage("count") ?
L840[23:29:52] <payonel> does that not work for ocemu?
L841[23:31:51] <Mimiru> payonel, gamax made MichiBot's %lua jnlua
L842[23:31:55] <Mimiru> so \o/
L843[23:32:08] <payonel> what was it just previously?
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L845[23:32:15] <payonel> and why is jnlua better?
L846[23:32:24] <payonel> %lua print(math.pi)
L847[23:32:24] <MichiBot> 3.1415926535898
L848[23:34:36] <Mimiru> It was luaj, which is shitty
L849[23:35:06] <Mimiru> %lua "hi"
L850[23:35:07] <MichiBot> hi
L851[23:36:11] <payonel> what is an example of luaj's crap?
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L853[23:37:52] <Mimiru> huh... oclogs doesn't seem to have anything from MichiBot logged..
L854[23:38:01] <Mimiru> Or
L855[23:38:03] <Mimiru> I'm an idiot
L856[23:38:06] <Mimiru> yeah... likely that
L857[23:38:24] <Mimiru> %lua print(tonumber("_", 16))
L858[23:38:24] <MichiBot> nil
L859[23:38:29] <Mimiru> on luaj, that returns 8
L860[23:38:40] <Mimiru> %lua print(string.format("%.3f", math.pi))
L861[23:38:40] <MichiBot> 3.142
L862[23:38:49] <Mimiru> in luaj that returns 3.141592653589793
L863[23:38:54] <Mimiru> cause string.format doesn't do anything
L864[23:40:06] <gamax92> payonel: stock luaj has a lot of things that are just broken or unimplemented
L865[23:40:24] <gamax92> oc's luaj has a lot of that stuff fixed up but it's also still pretty garbage
L866[23:41:10] <gamax92> for example, in lua if you give string.rep a negative amount to repeat, it gives you an empty string
L867[23:41:15] <gamax92> in stock luaj it throws an error
L868[23:41:30] <payonel> do they even care? :)
L869[23:42:37] <payonel> gamax92: so what can you tell me about collectgarbage("count") -- i heard it has something to do with current memory usage in the lua state
L870[23:44:14] <gamax92> payonel: in oc the amount of memory usage you get is based on everything past machine.lua, however not only would that give the memory usage of machine.lua, but also all of ocemu
L871[23:45:29] <gamax92> there is also no way to limit the amount of memory usage from lua
L872[23:48:19] <gamax92> payonel: there was also something to do with an npe being thrown in weak tables, oc's luaj just has a null check to prevent the npe but it's not sure if it's correct, seems to run fine though
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