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L4[01:14:00] <SinaMegapolis> hello
L5[01:14:12] <SinaMegapolis> is anyone here?
L6[01:15:18] <SinaMegapolis> hello?
L7[01:16:29] <Izaya> no
L8[01:16:34] <Izaya> nobody is here
L9[01:16:37] <Izaya> hence all the people here
L10[01:19:20] <Temia> We're all DEAD.
L11[01:19:26] <Temia> BOO!\
L12[01:20:08] <SinaMegapolis> lol :D
L13[01:21:21] <SinaMegapolis> if the "open for adoption" tag is for who want to make the ideas with this tag?
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L16[01:22:56] <SinaMegapolis> well
L17[01:23:03] <SinaMegapolis> what i was saying?
L18[01:23:16] <SinaMegapolis> oh, about"open for adoption"
L19[01:23:28] <SinaMegapolis> do anyone have an idea?
L20[01:24:03] <SinaMegapolis> hello? :l
L21[01:24:26] <Temia> Sorry, went back to being dead.
L22[01:24:32] <Temia> I only had enough left in me for one good boo.
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L24[01:27:50] <SinaMegapolis> lol
L25[01:28:42] <SinaMegapolis> so dont being dead :D
L26[01:28:52] <SinaMegapolis> becuz i want someone to talk
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L28[01:29:26] <SinaMegapolis> (if you have telegram concat me ;D t.me/SinaMegapolis
L29[01:29:39] <SinaMegapolis> (if you have telegram concat me ;D t.me/SinaMegapolis
L30[01:31:32] <Izaya> >telegram
L31[01:31:35] <Izaya> could be worse I guess
L32[01:31:51] <SinaMegapolis> why? :O
L33[01:32:55] <Kodos> SinaMegapolis, what did you need?
L34[01:33:13] <Izaya> Well, the clients are open-source, even if the server isn't, and I don't imagine it's federated in any way
L35[01:33:59] <Izaya> It's better than a lot of things, but it could be better.
L36[01:35:29] <SinaMegapolis> kodos: i want someone to talk
L37[01:36:08] <Kodos> We're talking, now what
L38[01:37:30] <SinaMegapolis> for talking in telegram (irc is creepy ;( )
L39[01:38:18] <Kodos> IRC isn't creepy, and in fact has been around for a long time
L40[01:39:28] <Kodos> If you want to talk, talking here is fine
L41[01:40:08] <SinaMegapolis> so kodos...... are you an ExplodingTNT fan? ;D
L42[01:40:19] <Kodos> No
L43[01:40:27] <SinaMegapolis> :(
L44[01:40:40] <SinaMegapolis> T_T
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L50[02:00:44] zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L51[02:04:50] <Forecaster> S3: ??
L52[02:12:51] <Vexatos> D:
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L54[02:28:04] <payonel> Vexatos: 'D:' sad?
L55[02:28:17] <Vexatos> U:
L56[02:30:05] <payonel> ∩
L57[02:30:07] <payonel> ∩:
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L66[06:33:05] <Sangar> o/
L67[06:33:45] <Vexatos> o\
L68[06:33:56] <Ashindigo_> \o/
L69[06:34:03] <Forecaster> o-
L70[06:34:33] <Vexatos> Sangar, added all the issues I closed related to bugfixes to the milestone .-. Of course there are a bunch of commits that do not have any issue associated with them
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L72[06:35:32] <Sangar> cool. for the rest, guess the changelog on jenkins will have to do when merging to stable
L73[06:36:14] <Vexatos> "stable" is the greatest hypocrisy in minecraft modding
L74[06:36:36] <Forecaster> yeah, it's more like a chicken coop
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L76[06:39:10] <20kdc> the titanic was stable for a while
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L78[06:43:33] <SinaMegapolis> hello
L79[06:44:06] <Forecaster> hi
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L81[07:01:57] <Forecaster> bye
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L83[07:16:54] <S3> Vexatos: lol it beats the purpose of selene being functional but if selene used _ like a default variable ($_ in Perl)...
L84[07:17:05] <S3> so you could just do crazy shit like:
L85[07:17:57] <Vexatos> can't do that: The thing is that Selene needs to be able to compile non-Selene code without changing it
L86[07:18:08] <S3> for k, _ <- b do print end
L87[07:18:09] <Vexatos> i.e. if normal Lua code runs through selene.parse, nothing should happen
L88[07:18:22] <S3> yeah I know
L89[07:18:26] <Vexatos> because live mode
L90[07:18:44] <S3> right
L91[07:18:54] <S3> and that's what I find so cool about it
L92[07:19:18] <S3> I thought about what it would be like to make my makefile work the same way
L93[07:19:33] <Vexatos> That is why I am only using codes that do not exist in Lua, like -> (there will never be that combination of characters in standard Lua)
L94[07:19:36] <S3> but meh lot of work
L95[07:19:44] <S3> right
L96[07:20:25] <Vexatos> <S3> for k, _ <- b do print end
L97[07:20:33] <Vexatos> couldn't you just b:foreach(print)
L98[07:20:46] <S3> CAN YOU DO THAT
L99[07:20:48] <S3> !!!!
L100[07:20:54] <S3> holy shit
L101[07:20:58] <Vexatos> or, if you only want k, b:foreach(k, _->print(k))
L102[07:21:21] <Vexatos> ...yes? doesn't the documentation say that foreach takes a function?
L103[07:21:26] <S3> well the beauty in $_ in Perl is parameterless calls
L104[07:21:39] <S3> it's actually kind of looked down upon in overuse
L105[07:21:43] <Vexatos> and if I say it takes a function that means it takes any kind of function
L106[07:22:02] <S3> but sometimes I'll do something like: print while <>;
L107[07:22:04] <Vexatos> print is a function without metadata so it won't know how many args to give it
L108[07:22:09] <Vexatos> so it just provides them all
L109[07:22:24] <S3> and this becomes while ($line = readline(*STDIN)) { print $line }
L110[07:22:41] <S3> replace line with $_
L111[07:22:53] <Vexatos> wrapped functions have metadata stating how many parameters they take, e.g. selene knows that (a,b->whatever) needs two values
L112[07:23:00] <Vexatos> while (a->what) only needs one
L113[07:23:00] <S3> huh
L114[07:23:41] <Vexatos> so somemap:foreach(v->print(v)) will provide only the values of the map, while somemap:foreach(k,v->print(k,v)) will provide both key and value
L115[07:24:25] <Vexatos> That is why $f might actuall be useful as a command, the second arg it takes is the number of parameters the function wants
L116[07:24:43] <Vexatos> if you aren't using $f, the only functions with metadata are lambda functions
L117[07:24:57] <Vexatos> ... I hope that wasn't too confusing
L118[07:25:35] <S3> Just wondering, why did you chose to name it foreach instead of the classic functional name each?
L119[07:26:26] <S3> maybe because foreach is more recognizable..
L120[07:27:03] <S3> no it wasn't too confusing
L121[07:27:21] <Vexatos> maths
L122[07:28:03] <S3> OMG
L123[07:28:06] <S3> you are a life saver
L124[07:28:10] <S3> you implemented flatten
L125[07:28:16] <S3> I use flatten ALL the time in Perl..
L126[07:28:33] <Vexatos> I hate perl
L127[07:28:38] <Vexatos> so much
L128[07:28:47] <Vexatos> it is the ugliest language I've seen and I've seen C++
L129[07:28:47] <S3> lol why
L130[07:28:51] <S3> haha
L131[07:29:00] <S3> I dunno
L132[07:29:17] <S3> It has the potential to be ugly, but I write extremely clean and concise perl
L133[07:29:27] <S3> I spend a lot of time prettifying my Perl as I write it
L134[07:29:31] <Vexatos> the language itself is ugly
L135[07:29:37] <Vexatos> the syntax
L136[07:29:48] <S3> heheh
L137[07:31:47] <Vexatos> actually quite proud of this http://git.io/vDcf8
L138[07:31:54] <Vexatos> Lambdas would have been nice here :⁾
L139[07:32:28] <None> the reddit retarded smiley™
L140[07:32:40] <Vexatos> :₎
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L142[07:33:25] <None> the not-in-reddit-but-probably-somewhere-else-does-restructuredtext-have-subscripts-by-the-way? retarded smiley
L143[07:33:39] <Vexatos> ⁽:
L144[07:33:56] <Vexatos> S3, also, foreach is the name of the function in both Java and Scala and that's the languages I know best :P
L145[07:34:09] <None> the reddit retarded smiley™ but it's opposite day
L146[07:34:18] <Vexatos> ₍:
L147[07:35:10] <None> the copy-that-thing-down-i-am-too-lazy-oh-by-the-way-i-forgot-to-trademark-that-so-you-can-steal-it™ retarded smiley
L148[07:35:50] <None> the language I am most familiar in calls it `for`
L149[07:39:53] <S3> AHHHH
L150[07:39:56] <S3> multiline one liners
L151[07:40:10] <S3> y do u do
L152[07:41:32] <Vexatos> Because it does not matter at all
L153[07:41:36] <Vexatos> it's the name number of bytes
L154[07:42:10] <Inari> but its extra spaces and crlf
L155[07:42:41] <None> ... perl
L156[07:42:58] <S3> don't dis Perl :)
L157[07:43:04] <None> perl looks...
L158[07:45:01] <Vexatos> Inari, only lf
L159[07:45:30] <Vexatos> hmmm I could add flatmap to Selene I guess .-.
L160[07:46:02] <Vexatos> languages have it so why not I guess
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L162[07:47:06] <S3> None: Perl looks fantastic
L163[07:48:07] <Vexatos> Yes
L164[07:48:10] <Vexatos> https://puu.sh/tNZN1/50425b7a91.png
L165[07:48:27] <S3> haha
L166[07:48:28] <Vexatos> this is more true than you expected, I guess
L167[07:48:34] <S3> None^ https://github.com/bhodgins/Universa/blob/master/engine/Universa/Attribute/ChannelCollection.pm
L168[07:48:41] <S3> examples of Perl
L169[07:48:53] <Vexatos> yea look at this ugly stuff
L170[07:48:55] <Vexatos> holy hell
L171[07:48:59] * Vexatos closes window
L172[07:49:09] <Vexatos> grotesque indeed
L173[07:49:18] <S3> lol
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L177[07:51:05] <S3> there's also traditional Perl styling, such as:
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L179[07:51:10] <S3> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/f26atUZW/
L180[07:51:28] <Izaya> mfw I remember Cloudy exists
L181[07:51:41] <S3> hmm. syntax hilighted version: https://hastebin.com/epuyifavef.pl
L182[07:51:49] <S3> Izaya: where is Cloudy?
L183[07:52:05] <S3> I was lookin for him a while ago
L184[07:53:41] <Izaya> dunno
L185[07:55:28] <Forecaster> http://www.animatedengines.com/
L186[07:55:49] <Vexatos> S3, another thing that I have no idea whether it's documented
L187[07:56:03] <S3> ?
L188[07:56:07] <Vexatos> :map() can return two values
L189[07:56:13] <Vexatos> and then it will use the first value as a key
L190[07:57:05] <Vexatos> so $(1,2,3):map(a->a*2, a*3) will produce {[2]=3, [4]=6, [6]=9}
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L192[07:59:14] <Forecaster> Wankel Engines are weird
L193[08:00:04] <Vexatos> well it says so right in the name
L194[08:03:14] <S3> Forecaster: they've been around
L195[08:03:24] <S3> iirc they were developed to reduce rotational torque on airplanes
L196[08:03:30] <S3> or something like that
L197[08:04:09] <S3> because a propeller plane is always has this corkskrewing force
L198[08:04:16] <S3> in the direction of the rotation
L199[08:04:33] <S3> wow the grammar on that is awful
L200[08:06:05] <Forecaster> naw, you're gramer is perfect
L201[08:10:04] <S3> apparently wankel engines backfire, a LOT
L202[08:10:10] <S3> and tend to dispense unburnt fuel
L203[08:10:36] <S3> which is probably why they're almost never used :D
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L205[08:11:58] <S3> huh
L206[08:12:09] <S3> apparently they're also kinda dangerous
L207[08:12:24] <S3> never knew that
L208[08:12:34] <Vexatos> The name just fits too well
L209[08:12:35] <Vexatos> like
L210[08:12:42] <S3> heh
L211[08:12:43] <Vexatos> it's like the Leidenfrost effect
L212[08:12:48] <Vexatos> some people just were born with destined names
L213[08:12:54] <S3> ahahahaha
L214[08:14:34] <Vexatos> those are the things you don't realize when you're not German :P
L215[08:15:52] <S3> neat
L216[08:17:11] <S3> yeah apparently wankel engines tend to combust only on one side of the engine which creates two problems, caused by the same reason, first problem is that one side of the engine is significantly cooler than the other, second problem is that the seals leak gasses for combustion into the other chamber, because of this difference in temperature
L217[08:17:26] <Vexatos> Look at the German word "wankeln" and you'll know why this is funny
L218[08:17:42] <S3> the temperature difference could actually cause the engine to crack which is obviously REALLY bad
L219[08:18:14] <Vexatos> (or "wanken")
L220[08:18:33] <S3> Forecaster: lol that's funny
L221[08:19:32] <S3> The kitty is always around me
L222[08:19:43] <S3> all I gotta do is look up and there she is somewhere in the same room
L223[08:20:05] <Forecaster> what's funny?
L224[08:20:14] <S3> and she follows me everywhere..
L225[08:20:43] <S3> it's just ironic because she's my fiances cat
L226[08:20:50] <S3> but when I moved in she decided she likes me better
L227[08:24:45] <S3> Vexatos: dropwhile is useful for multiplexing character buffers.
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L229[08:26:31] <Vexatos> S3, if you need more functions, just tell me :>
L230[08:26:42] <S3> why would I ever need more functions
L231[08:27:30] <Vexatos> in case I'm missing one?
L232[08:28:11] <S3> I'm trying to think of how I want to implement functional reactive streams with selene
L233[08:28:35] <S3> since all OS communication is done this way
L234[08:31:37] <Vexatos> I just had another cool idea
L235[08:33:30] <S3> Vexatos: monads?
L236[08:33:54] <Vexatos> how >_>
L237[08:35:48] <S3> I was just being random
L238[08:49:10] <S3> fuuuuuuu
L239[08:53:59] <S3> Vexatos: so the following seems to work.. http://pb.i0i0.me/p/n5adB3pd
L240[08:54:04] <S3> as an outside of MC selenec
L241[08:54:28] <S3> but I need to know how to handle licensing for it so that it doesn't you know, I mean it's just other propels code added and fixed
L242[08:55:38] <Vexatos> I told you, do whatever you want with it >_>
L243[08:55:50] <S3> yeah but it contains openos code too
L244[08:55:50] <S3> XD
L245[08:55:50] <Vexatos> aaand two new features added to Selene
L246[08:55:58] <S3> bnecause there's no getopt for lua
L247[08:55:58] <Vexatos> openos code is public domain IIRC
L248[08:56:12] <Vexatos> S3, https://github.com/Vexatos/Selene/commit/38cc970d2b57fef32e0a7bacb1c61213fe51b459 :3
L249[08:56:38] <Vexatos> And, even better https://github.com/Vexatos/Selene/commit/5f2a2852739ea142713344b202d381c96e007d95
L250[08:56:55] <S3> now you just need roundmap (lololol)
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L252[08:57:09] <Vexatos> So $(1, 2, 3) actually works not
L253[08:57:21] <Vexatos> previously you'd have to do $({1, 2, 3})
L254[08:57:42] <Vexatos> Also stuff like $(somefunctionthatreturnsmultiplethingsthatIwanttoputintoasinglemap())
L255[08:57:56] <Vexatos> hooray >_>
L256[08:58:59] <S3> so, is it normal for selene to convert a foreach loop into a "lpairs()" function?
L257[08:59:06] <S3> instead of like ipairs
L258[08:59:16] <S3> I'm assuming it's a selene function
L259[08:59:21] <S3> for handling lists
L260[09:00:10] <Vexatos> yes
L261[09:00:19] <Vexatos> lpairs uses ipairs if possible and pairs otherwise
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L263[09:02:07] <S3> hm
L264[09:02:24] <S3> I see what's going on
L265[09:02:49] <S3> so you have init.lua, and maybe openos has some weird thing when you require a directory it requires init?
L266[09:02:54] <S3> in that directory
L267[09:03:29] <S3> lpairs is in init.lua but when I require selene, it doesn't have lpairs, because it's not in a file called selene.lua, but it doesnb't error because selene is a directory....
L268[09:03:46] <S3> well it errors when it doesn't find lpairs()
L269[09:04:08] <S3> yeah wtf it gives me a table..
L270[09:04:47] <Vexatos> that is not openos
L271[09:04:48] <S3> Vexatos:
L272[09:04:53] <S3> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/PgRhAwg3/
L273[09:04:53] <Vexatos> that is standard Lua
L274[09:05:06] <S3> well this is what happens when I put that into my lua 5.3 repl
L275[09:05:09] <Vexatos> require("selene") should require init if selene is a directory
L276[09:05:20] <S3> so 'something' is working
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L278[09:06:11] <Vexatos> lpairs is not in selene
L279[09:06:14] <Vexatos> it is in _ENV
L280[09:06:27] <Vexatos> just like pairs and ipairs
L281[09:06:41] <S3> oh right, okay so..
L282[09:07:59] <S3> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/Z42SX8JT/
L283[09:08:31] <S3> something isn't loading right for me
L284[09:08:36] <Vexatos> well yea you didn't load selene, did you
L285[09:08:42] <S3> at the top
L286[09:08:46] <S3> ojh SHIT
L287[09:08:48] <Vexatos> ...
L288[09:08:50] <S3> I'm a dumb ass
L289[09:09:08] <Vexatos> your REPL does not have doAutoload=true, pretty sure :P
L290[09:09:16] <S3> :D
L291[09:09:58] <S3> then my question for you, when I compile a selene script, it puts in require('selene') but never does load.
L292[09:10:03] <S3> reason for that?
L293[09:11:14] <Vexatos> I have no reason why I put it there
L294[09:11:25] <S3> the require?
L295[09:11:37] <S3> heh
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L298[09:35:43] zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L299[09:39:56] <S3> I just discovered something really cool
L300[09:40:15] <S3> in lua, if you create a string of things seperated by 0x09 (tab)
L301[09:40:21] <S3> then do {string}
L302[09:40:23] <S3> it will make a table.
L303[09:40:28] <S3> from those elements
L304[09:40:48] <S3> and that is exactly how {...} works.
L305[09:43:34] <S3> it is sligghtly more complicated than that
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L310[10:33:22] <Forecaster> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWYweAUikis
L311[10:33:23] <MichiBot> 1985 Pop-up Book: Inside the Personal Computer | Ashens | length: 14m 21s | Likes: 13,159 Dislikes: 171 Views: 439,713 | by ashens | Published On 10/4/2016
L312[10:38:13] <S3> whee
L313[10:38:17] <S3> Vexatos: http://pb.i0i0.me/p/KjErvrxH
L314[10:38:21] <S3> success?
L315[10:38:22] <S3> :D
L316[10:38:48] <S3> now I just gotta make an lob creator
L317[10:38:52] <S3> that works like gnu ld
L318[10:39:01] <S3> and itl glue a kernel together
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L322[10:46:55] <Forecaster> yay outdated computer stuff
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L326[10:56:59] <S3> Forecaster: ?
L327[10:57:01] <Pigpork> hello
L328[10:57:05] <S3> there is no such thing as outdated
L329[10:57:24] <S3> up to date is just a marketing term
L330[10:57:37] <S3> in engineering we laugh at the term "outdated"
L331[10:58:26] <S3> for we wouldn't be surprised if your brand new samsung galaxy has an fpga with a 6502 core on it
L332[10:58:27] <S3> :P
L333[10:58:34] <S3> somewhere
L334[10:58:45] <S3> it happens
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L337[11:00:56] <Pigpork> Is anyone online here ?
L338[11:01:01] <Forecaster> yes
L339[11:01:02] <AshIndigo> nope
L340[11:01:08] <Pigpork> cool lol
L341[11:01:10] <Forecaster> maybe
L342[11:01:31] <S3> pork comes from pigs Pigpork
L343[11:01:36] <S3> not cows
L344[11:01:44] <S3> not chickens
L345[11:01:48] <S3> not computers
L346[11:01:53] <S3> not open computers.. :D
L347[11:02:05] <Pigpork> maybe closed computers
L348[11:02:11] <S3> maybe
L349[11:02:21] <S3> that's still farfetch'd
L350[11:02:52] <Pigpork> how to make a robot that stands in one place and keeps mining? xD
L351[11:03:15] <Forecaster> while true do robot.dig() end
L352[11:03:21] <Forecaster> something like that
L353[11:03:26] * vifino snuggles Lizzy
L354[11:03:32] <S3> hey vifino
L355[11:03:34] <Pigpork> and save it as a program or a eeprom?
L356[11:03:41] <S3> sure
L357[11:03:55] <Forecaster> I'd recommend installing openos on the robot
L358[11:04:01] <Forecaster> and running it as a program
L359[11:04:08] <Pigpork> oh okay thx
L360[11:04:22] * Lizzy snuggles vifino
L361[11:04:30] <S3> I didn't know that robots had so much space
L362[11:04:38] <S3> lob files are gonna be great!
L363[11:04:52] <S3> a lob file is similar to a .o file in thge world of systems programming with C, etc
L364[11:05:20] <S3> you take a BUNCH of lua files, slam it into one big file, with their globals exposed to the outside world as a table.
L365[11:05:48] <S3> you can take multiple lob files, and make them into a "new lob file" as long as they don't have the same globals.
L366[11:05:58] <S3> so they merge
L367[11:07:04] <S3> in my case I'm minifying mione and using them as modular kernel modules
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L369[11:08:08] <vifino> Hey S3.
L370[11:08:12] <S3> the kernel itself will be a lob file :)
L371[11:08:24] <S3> when you execute a lob file it looks for a global called _start
L372[11:08:30] <S3> and calls it as a function
L373[11:08:35] <Vexatos> lobster? D
L374[11:08:36] <Vexatos> D:
L375[11:08:47] <S3> lua object but YES
L376[11:08:51] <S3> Vexatos has done it
L377[11:08:57] <S3> it is now officially labeled the lua lobster file
L378[11:09:01] <S3> format
L379[11:09:24] <S3> Vexatos: you know I'm from / in Maine right? Lobster is like.. our delecacy
L380[11:09:50] <S3> so it fits
L381[11:16:50] <Corded> * 20kdc noms a lobster, but dies of lead poisoning
L382[11:17:58] <Vexatos> a Main(e)land dweller D:
L383[11:18:14] <Vexatos> ...That's somewhere in Brazil, right?
L384[11:18:16] * Vexatos runs
L385[11:18:55] <Vexatos> S3, how are you going to keep Selene up-to-date? :⁾
L386[11:19:15] <S3> sorta
L387[11:19:18] <S3> I have it cloned
L388[11:19:31] <S3> I mean I have it in a vendor dir
L389[11:19:35] <S3> so I can just git pull but
L390[11:20:45] * Vexatos pokes payonel with a 2230
L391[11:21:17] * Vexatos pokes Sangar with a 2260
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L395[11:31:47] <Pigpork> is galaticraft compatible with opencomputers?
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L399[11:33:49] <Vexatos> Should be...?
L400[11:34:17] <Pigpork> i meant can the computers interact with galacticraft things?
L401[11:36:20] <Vexatos> depends on the thing
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L411[11:41:31] <Pigpork> can anyone give me a program to make a robot stand in one place and mine, (give the pastebin link pls)
L412[11:41:43] <Forecaster> no
L413[11:41:55] <Pigpork> why not lol
L414[11:42:02] <Forecaster> it's against the law
L415[11:42:17] <Forecaster> okay maybe not, we're all just really lazy
L416[11:42:31] <Woxbel> the Rules link doesn't bring you to the Rules page or is it only broken on my side ?
L417[11:42:51] <Pigpork> idk lol
L418[11:43:15] <Forecaster> it seems it's cut off
L419[11:43:21] <Forecaster> @Lizzy
L420[11:43:37] <Forecaster> it appears to go to https://oc.cil.li/index.php?/topic/171
L421[11:43:40] <Forecaster> instead of https://oc.cil.li/index.php?/topic/171-oc-channel-rules/
L422[11:43:54] <Pigpork> can a computer from this mod connect to galacticraft stuff? just curious xD
L423[11:44:07] <Lizzy> it used to work ¬_¬
L424[11:44:08] <Forecaster> possibly
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L426[11:44:23] <Forecaster> like vex said it depends on the "stuff"
L427[11:44:25] <Vexatos> OC even adds a world sensor card if galacticraft is there :P
L428[11:44:39] <Forecaster> some blocks are compatible, some may not be
L429[11:44:58] <Pigpork> what can i do with the world sensor card?
L430[11:44:58] <Woxbel> that works :D
L431[11:45:10] <Forecaster> sense worlds?
L432[11:45:16] <Pigpork> it seems cool, but how do i use the world sensor card
L433[11:45:33] <Pigpork> like what program exists for this card
L434[11:45:42] <AshIndigo> check the methods avaliable
L435[11:45:54] <Forecaster> I dunno, I don't use galacticraft
L436[11:46:40] <Pigpork> i cant find any info/methods on the wiki
L437[11:47:09] <AshIndigo> i use this to view methods easily http://pastebin.com/G3YjRgFH
L438[11:47:17] <AshIndigo> theres probably a better one out there but this works
L439[11:47:20] <Pigpork> okay thanks
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L442[11:52:23] <Pigpork> so does anyone have a program about the world sensor card? really need one but cant find any lol
L443[11:52:47] <Inari> program? about? What
L444[11:53:11] <Pigpork> a program that uses the world sensor card
L445[11:53:23] <Pigpork> to sense the gas, wind and stuff
L446[11:53:36] <Inari> gas?
L447[11:53:42] <Inari> wind?
L448[11:53:49] <AshIndigo> i would imagine there is some kind hasOxygen()
L449[11:53:56] <Pigpork> yes, because im using galacticraft
L450[11:54:09] <AshIndigo> i dont know the methods avaliable for use
L451[11:54:12] <Inari> Oh
L452[11:54:14] <Pigpork> i know the methods but i dont know how to make a program
L453[11:54:18] <Inari> I was thinking of the wrong card I think :P
L454[11:54:55] <Pigpork> use this program in game for the methods http://pastebin.com/G3YjRgFH
L455[11:55:39] <AshIndigo> can you toss some method names in here?
L456[11:55:42] <Pigpork> guys help me make this program, lmao im looking for this program forever
L457[11:55:52] <Pigpork> okay give me a moment
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L459[11:55:59] <Inari> I don't have galacticraft and I won't boot up MC to find out the methods :P
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L461[11:56:20] <AshIndigo> funny enough my pack used to have gc but we switched out for advanced rocketry
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L463[11:58:20] <Pigpork> the methods are - getWindLevel, isGasPresent, getGravity, hasBreathableAtomshpere
L464[11:58:28] <Pigpork> so what do i do?
L465[11:59:05] <Forecaster> you haven't described what you want to do
L466[11:59:19] <Forecaster> what the program is supposed to do that is
L467[11:59:23] <AshIndigo> that is true forecaster
L468[12:00:38] <Pigpork> its supposed to find the atmosphere of the planet the computer is in
L469[12:00:52] <Forecaster> and then?
L470[12:00:53] <Inari> "find"?
L471[12:01:04] <AshIndigo> find as in see if there is oxygen?
L472[12:01:05] <Inari> Like compile info on wind/gas/gravity/atmosphere?
L473[12:01:08] <Pigpork> yyes
L474[12:01:12] <Pigpork> exactly
L475[12:01:17] <Inari> Right
L476[12:01:20] <Forecaster> getting info is one thing, what then?
L477[12:01:21] <Inari> what does it do then with tha tinfo :D
L478[12:01:27] <Forecaster> display it on the screen?
L479[12:01:40] <Pigpork> yes
L480[12:01:52] <Pigpork> get info and display it
L481[12:02:00] <Forecaster> you want the term api then
L482[12:02:15] <Forecaster> %oc term
L483[12:02:26] <Forecaster> wait, dangit
L484[12:02:32] <Forecaster> what was the wiki command
L485[12:02:32] <Inari> ~oc term
L486[12:02:32] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/api:term
L487[12:02:35] <Forecaster> oh right
L488[12:02:36] <Pigpork> i havent used oc in one year lol
L489[12:02:51] <Inari> well worst case do something like
L490[12:03:41] <AshIndigo> heres a half assed program that will probably not work because i dont know the name of the card
L491[12:03:43] <AshIndigo> http://pastebin.com/ZMR0hwuF
L492[12:04:12] <Inari> while true do term.clear() print("Wind: " .. world.getWindLevel()) print("Gas: " .. tostring(world.isGasPresent())) print("Gravity: " .. world.getGravity)) print("Breathable: " .. tostring(world.hasBreathableAtmosphere())) sleep(1) end
L493[12:04:37] <Pigpork> do i just paste it in a program?
L494[12:04:43] <Pigpork> like as is
L495[12:04:51] <AshIndigo> i recomend you actually read it
L496[12:04:59] <AshIndigo> so you know what it actually does
L497[12:05:12] <Woxbel> I am really interested in this mod not sure why I haven´t seen anyone use it before or mention it
L498[12:05:29] <Inari> It's quite niceh
L499[12:05:39] <Inari> I'd like it to have more practical use, but no clue how :D
L500[12:05:39] <AshIndigo> i like it more than computercraft
L501[12:05:54] <Pigpork> same its the best mod ever
L502[12:06:12] <Inari> Circuity will be better
L503[12:06:15] <Inari> And Volemod too
L504[12:06:19] <Inari> *Voldemod
L505[12:06:26] <Inari> Sangar: Right Sangar? @ Circuity
L506[12:06:37] <Woxbel> yeah I think so to and it gave me loads of ideas
L507[12:07:04] <Pigpork> and i got a error "/worldsensor:1: unexpected symbol near ')'"
L508[12:07:09] <Woxbel> I have been looking around on the web to collect mods that I want to use for my next hopefully ¨long-term¨ sp world I am mainly looking for very specific vibe and this mod fits that perfectly and honestly is probably going to be at the center of it.
L509[12:07:13] <Pigpork> for that program
L510[12:07:32] <AshIndigo> i want to see if i can convince the server owner to add openperipherals
L511[12:07:43] <AshIndigo> so i can have my terminal glasses
L512[12:08:08] <Pigpork> lol help, i got a error for that program
L513[12:08:44] <AshIndigo> whose?
L514[12:09:04] <Pigpork> the secong one u gave me
L515[12:09:10] <Pigpork> just a few mins ago
L516[12:09:16] <Pigpork> second
L517[12:09:44] <Woxbel> My one main question however is are there plans to update it eventually to 1.11.2 if that is the case I will probably wait if for any reason this isn’t planned then I will probably start in a week or two in 1.10.2 unless other version are recommended over those 2
L518[12:10:38] <Pigpork> AshIndigo, can you put that program into pastebin for me?
L519[12:10:55] <AshIndigo> i didnt make a second one in chat for the world sensor
L520[12:11:27] <Pigpork> i mean the program u posted in the chat, can you put it into pastebin?
L521[12:11:51] <AshIndigo> the only 2 programs i put are on pastebin
L522[12:12:10] <AshIndigo> the program you are copying from chat was not made by me
L523[12:12:16] <Pigpork> oh okay
L524[12:12:24] <Pigpork> but can you put it on pastebin?
L525[12:12:27] <AshIndigo> and that wont work out of box
L526[12:12:30] <Pigpork> yea
L527[12:13:59] <AshIndigo> your on a webclient
L528[12:14:03] <AshIndigo> why dont you upload it?
L529[12:14:22] <Woxbel> isn't the fun figuring things out yourself ?
L530[12:14:23] <Pigpork> i did
L531[12:14:36] <Pigpork> yea sometimes i agree
L532[12:15:05] <AshIndigo> most of the time
L533[12:15:41] <Pigpork> but i cant fix this one erro with this program lol, help me out bruh
L534[12:15:47] <Pigpork> error*
L535[12:16:49] <Woxbel> it is saying unexpected symbol so that probably means there is something missing
L536[12:16:59] <AshIndigo> theres also no declarations for term and world
L537[12:17:05] <Pigpork> but i dont know whats missing
L538[12:17:14] <Pigpork> since im new to oc
L539[12:18:09] <AshIndigo> %oc tutorial
L540[12:18:19] <AshIndigo> :/
L541[12:18:32] <AshIndigo> http://ocdoc.cil.li/tutorial
L542[12:18:42] <Pigpork> there is no tutorial for the world sensor card lol
L543[12:18:52] <Pigpork> i already checked the wiki
L544[12:19:02] <AshIndigo> stop thinking of it as a card
L545[12:19:03] <Woxbel> haven’t looked into the actual programming language at all but with a lot of other programming languages it often means something isn’t defined or there is a () ¨¨ to many or to little
L546[12:19:21] <AshIndigo> just think about it as something that is giving you acess to methods
L547[12:19:32] <AshIndigo> its just another api
L548[12:19:50] <AshIndigo> the most youll do with the card is setup a variable for it
L549[12:20:06] <AshIndigo> i.e local world = component.(world sensor card name)
L550[12:20:09] <Pigpork> oh okay, and i can barely find any programs for this mod, so its gonna be hard
L551[12:20:12] <Pigpork> n thx
L552[12:20:25] <AshIndigo> your welcome
L553[12:20:52] <S3> Should I implement lazy loading? It might save a lot of memory
L554[12:20:58] <Pigpork> and do i need to put a line between lines of code?
L555[12:21:02] <Pigpork> and whats lazy loading
L556[12:21:16] <S3> so my object file format stores many lua files in one blob
L557[12:21:25] <AshIndigo> i do it for formatting'
L558[12:21:45] <S3> if it does lazy loading, it doesn't load() the files in it until a global variab;e / function, etc is accessed.
L559[12:21:47] <S3> for the first time
L560[12:21:49] <AshIndigo> but you could clump it all together
L561[12:22:08] <Pigpork> oh okay
L562[12:22:13] <Woxbel> so no one has anything to say about my earlier question ?
L563[12:22:27] <S3> Woxbel: ?
L564[12:22:31] <AshIndigo> what was it again?
L565[12:23:06] <Woxbel> My one main question however is are there plans to update it eventually to 1.11.2 if that is the case I will probably wait if for any reason this isn’t planned then I will probably start in a week or two in 1.10.2 unless other version are recommended over those 2
L566[12:24:16] <S3> I can just do full loading for now
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L570[12:28:27] <Pigpork> i got a error with the "isGasPresent", any help?
L571[12:28:41] <Pigpork> all the other methods worked fine
L572[12:29:16] <Forecaster> NotEnoughInformationException "an error"
L573[12:29:40] <Woxbel> lol
L574[12:29:56] <Pigpork> i will post the erro on pastebin lol
L575[12:30:01] <Pigpork> error
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L577[12:30:19] <SinaMegapolis> hello :D
L578[12:30:47] <Woxbel> eey
L579[12:31:20] <Pigpork> how do i copy the error message?
L580[12:31:33] <Forecaster> screenshot it
L581[12:31:42] <Pigpork> and?
L582[12:31:49] <Forecaster> imgur
L583[12:32:04] <Pigpork> okay
L584[12:32:50] <Pigpork> http://imgur.com/a/Nailn
L585[12:33:00] <Pigpork> heres the link to the error message
L586[12:33:52] <Forecaster> I also need to see the code
L587[12:35:32] <Pigpork> okay
L588[12:35:40] <Pigpork> i will screenshot the code
L589[12:36:59] <Pigpork> the error message - http://imgur.com/a/uKznr
L590[12:37:22] <Forecaster> there is no code there
L591[12:37:34] <Pigpork> code - http://imgur.com/a/HpvIj
L592[12:37:37] <Pigpork> heres the code
L593[12:37:40] <Forecaster> oh
L594[12:38:05] <Pigpork> so how do i fix it?
L595[12:38:50] <Forecaster> it seems worldCard.isGasPresent() returned "no value"
L596[12:39:18] <Pigpork> i know but i cant find a reason why
L597[12:39:26] <Pigpork> its a valid method
L598[12:39:28] <Forecaster> this happens every time?
L599[12:39:50] <Forecaster> if it wasn't a valid method it would error on trying to call a method that doesn't exist
L600[12:40:22] <Pigpork> yes everytime
L601[12:40:33] <Woxbel> isGasPresent(IAtmosphericGas gas) doesn't that mean you need to give it an argument ?
L602[12:40:47] <Pigpork> i dont think u need
L603[12:41:00] <Pigpork> you can see the code on imgur, i posted it
L604[12:41:15] <Forecaster> might be
L605[12:41:38] <Pigpork> so do you know what argument it needs?
L606[12:41:43] <Forecaster> no
L607[12:42:02] <Pigpork> okay, and btw where do i find programs for this mod?
L608[12:42:19] <Woxbel> yeah I understand but the error is saying bad arguments and a google search on isgaspresent function gets you to a page where it states it needs a value
L609[12:42:26] <Inari> Would the plural of wolfy be wolfies or wolvies
L610[12:43:23] <Forecaster> might need something like "oxygen"
L611[12:43:34] <Pigpork> oh okay, let me try
L612[12:43:40] <Woxbel> cant you use this one public boolean hasBreathableAtmosphere();
L613[12:43:46] <Forecaster> I assumed the print function was erroring
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L615[12:44:21] <Pigpork> i already used hasBreathableAtmosphere();
L616[12:44:39] <Pigpork> but i need this method to find what gas is present
L617[12:45:16] <Pigpork> so where do i put the argument?
L618[12:45:28] <Woxbel> okay well in that case you have to probably check for each gas in turn
L619[12:45:32] <MalkContent> hey, there's E:D players round here, right? i'm considering getting it without knowing too much about it, but i had some freelancer-on-steroids-like experience in mind
L620[12:45:37] <MalkContent> that about fitting?
L621[12:45:50] <Forecaster> sounds about right
L622[12:46:02] <Forecaster> there's a lot of videos and such
L623[12:46:07] <Forecaster> you should probably watch a few
L624[12:46:23] <Pigpork> i cant find any videos about this tho
L625[12:46:28] <Woxbel> isGasPresent(¨oxygen¨) I am guessing it would go like that
L626[12:46:31] <MalkContent> wanna go in somewhat blind
L627[12:46:36] <Forecaster> I wasn't walking to you Pigpork ...
L628[12:46:44] <Pigpork> ok lol
L629[12:46:53] <MalkContent> one thing though, is it viable for sp or more mp?
L630[12:47:02] <Forecaster> works for both
L631[12:47:08] <MalkContent> kk
L632[12:47:12] <MalkContent> thx :)
L633[12:47:12] <Forecaster> though it's always-online you can play in "solo mode"
L634[12:47:26] <Forecaster> where you can't meet other players in the world
L635[12:47:37] <Pigpork> thanks alot WUxbel
L636[12:48:01] <Forecaster> if you want someone to play with feel free to poke me, I haven't played in a while
L637[12:48:02] <MalkContent> a, okay. so probably no campaign, right?
L638[12:48:13] <Forecaster> there is no campaign no
L639[12:48:17] <Forecaster> it's all open play
L640[12:49:02] <SinaMegapolis> hello again
L641[12:49:07] <Forecaster> hi
L642[12:49:09] <S3> hey SinaMegapolis
L643[12:49:13] <SinaMegapolis> how do addon mods for oc work?
L644[12:49:31] <MalkContent> I'll keep it in mind, thanks :) though i'm specifically gonna get it because i just wanna be alone and fly through space. with some pewpew.
L645[12:49:51] <Woxbel> what Minecraft version do you usually play in when using this mod Forecaster ?
L646[12:50:00] <Forecaster> what mod?
L647[12:50:19] <Woxbel> oc ?
L648[12:50:27] <Pigpork> ik im not in this convo, but minecraft 1.7.10 is the best version lol
L649[12:50:33] <Forecaster> oh, I play 1.7
L650[12:50:50] <Forecaster> 1.7.10 to be specific
L651[12:51:01] <Woxbel> well anyone can answer it was part of my earlier question as well
L652[12:51:30] <Pigpork> ok
L653[12:52:00] <Woxbel> what is the reasoning behind it though ?
L654[12:52:15] <Forecaster> I'm doing a letsplay with a rather large modpack
L655[12:52:26] <Forecaster> I'd have to drop a lot of mods if I wanted to go to 1.10
L656[12:52:35] <Forecaster> and I don't see a reason to
L657[12:54:22] <Woxbel> okay I can see that I was actually considering going for the 1.11.2 version if it does come out but I might have to reconsider that especially if there is not much reason for it
L658[12:56:44] <Forecaster> there can be plenty of reasons, just none that I care about right now
L659[12:57:00] <Woxbel> 221 videos that is pretty impressive I will check it out
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L661[13:17:29] <payonel> Vexatos: looking at 2230 (pastebin) now
L662[13:20:01] <MindWorX> How long does it usually take for something that has been implemented to show up on Curse?
L663[13:20:55] <MindWorX> Ah, I should look at the milestone I guess
L664[13:21:37] <MindWorX> So I guess I need to wait for v1.6.2
L665[13:21:48] <MindWorX> Could I get the latest dev version from some CI somewhere?
L666[13:23:38] <Forecaster> MindWorX: check the topic ;)
L667[13:23:47] <MindWorX> Hey hey hey!
L668[13:24:08] <MindWorX> Don't be coming in here with expectations that I actually read the topic!
L669[13:24:36] <Forecaster> if I expected that I wouldn't have had to tell you to would I? :P
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L671[13:24:46] <GeneralKenobi> Morning
L672[13:24:53] <Ashindigo_> Afternoon
L673[13:24:57] <Forecaster> Night
L674[13:25:04] <GeneralKenobi> lel
L675[13:25:20] <GeneralKenobi> Cutting to the chase, no, not that guy over there >,>
L676[13:26:02] * Forecaster checks the "that guy over there"-detector
L677[13:26:05] <Forecaster> yep, checks out
L678[13:26:06] <GeneralKenobi> Euhm, I have the FTB Infinity Lite Pack with OpenComputers, I want to write Lua code but not in the Computer in MC, cause Lag *shudders*
L679[13:26:32] <Forecaster> GeneralKenobi: the files are stored on your computer, in the world dir
L680[13:26:37] <GeneralKenobi> I have the Emulator, but now I'm looking to see if anyone has made a Syntax Exposer for ZeroBrane
L681[13:26:46] <Ashindigo_> You could write the code in another program then pastebin it
L682[13:26:58] <GeneralKenobi> I love the pastebin cmd <3
L683[13:27:00] <MalkContent> emulator?
L684[13:27:07] <MindWorX> I wonder how the Curse Launcher behaves with dependency checking and dev versions ...
L685[13:27:10] <GeneralKenobi> Got MineOS as a test, too much GUI
L686[13:27:17] <MalkContent> there an outofgame editor for oc? :o
L687[13:27:32] <GeneralKenobi> It's Lua, so yeah
L688[13:27:42] <Ashindigo_> So just any old lua ide
L689[13:27:59] <GeneralKenobi> But I have ZeroBrane tied into where the Emulator generated the "disk"
L690[13:27:59] <Forecaster> s/lua ide/text editor
L691[13:27:59] <MichiBot> <Ashindigo_> So just any old text editor
L692[13:28:10] <Ashindigo_> Pretty much
L693[13:28:39] <S3> OMG
L694[13:28:41] <Forecaster> GeneralKenobi: the best™ way is to edit the files directly
L695[13:28:43] <S3> .LOB FILES WORK!
L696[13:28:47] <S3> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/3ymp1thZ/
L697[13:28:53] <GeneralKenobi> I was just wondering if anyone here used ZeroBrane, and if something is available like the AfterBirth+ API available for ZB
L698[13:29:03] <Forecaster> no idea what that is
L699[13:29:06] <S3> in test.lua there is a _start
L700[13:29:19] <GeneralKenobi> Oh God, Please don't let it be z86ASM
L701[13:29:21] <GeneralKenobi> x86*
L702[13:29:30] <S3> GeneralKenobi: ?
L703[13:29:30] * Ashindigo_ doesn't know what that is
L704[13:29:32] <GeneralKenobi> global _start >,>
L705[13:29:37] <S3> oh
L706[13:29:37] <S3> yeah
L707[13:29:38] <S3> haha
L708[13:29:42] <S3> that's where I got the name from
L709[13:29:52] <S3> no it's not x86 at all
L710[13:29:56] * GeneralKenobi *shudders*
L711[13:30:02] <S3> GeneralKenobi: it's better
L712[13:30:10] <S3> I'm writing an OS that has "kernel modules"
L713[13:30:13] <S3> and the kernel itself is a module
L714[13:30:14] <GeneralKenobi> I tried writing in asm, never again...
L715[13:30:23] <S3> these are put in .lob files that are 100% lua code
L716[13:30:28] <GeneralKenobi> ffs I just started Lua like 2 weeks ago
L717[13:30:29] <MindWorX> What's the general release schedule of OC? When you feel like it? Or aiming for once every N weeks or something?
L718[13:30:31] <S3> they are packages of multiple files string together GeneralKenobi
L719[13:30:37] <S3> and if _start exists, then it calls it
L720[13:30:41] <S3> if not, it returns a table of all the globals
L721[13:30:51] <S3> :)
L722[13:30:56] <S3> so the kernel has a _start
L723[13:30:57] <MalkContent> MindWorX: there is no schedule
L724[13:31:02] <S3> and then can just therefore be executed.
L725[13:31:09] <MindWorX> Fair enough.
L726[13:31:10] <MalkContent> (afaik)
L727[13:31:19] <S3> GeneralKenobi: also, lob files can be strung together into larger lob files.
L728[13:31:24] <S3> (at least that's the plan)
L729[13:31:30] <Ashindigo_> Is 1.7.10 maintained still? I would presume that it isnt
L730[13:31:36] <S3> so you can make a kernel image with a ton of builtin kernel modules
L731[13:31:36] <MindWorX> It is
L732[13:31:50] <GeneralKenobi> I used to contribute to the C# Open Sourced Managed Operating System (COSMOS) ... Been a few years though, I'm sure someone got a fully functioning GUI to work
L733[13:32:05] <MindWorX> At least, the build server has a 6 hour old version of OC for 1.7.10.
L734[13:32:19] <GeneralKenobi> If I want to do Kernel work, I'll recompile my Three Linux Boxes tyvm <3
L735[13:32:39] <S3> nob ody wants to write C#
L736[13:32:43] <GeneralKenobi> The Mac doesn't count cause it's the MACH-O Kernel -,-
L737[13:32:48] <S3> C# is for strange people
L738[13:32:50] <GeneralKenobi> S3 *El Gasp*!
L739[13:32:51] <Ashindigo_> Oh cool
L740[13:33:06] <Vexatos> MindWorX, the dev repo of jenkins builds a new version on every single push to github
L741[13:33:06] <S3> everyone instead wants to write in befunge
L742[13:33:09] <S3> befunge everything!
L743[13:33:10] <MalkContent> strange people and space engineers players
L744[13:33:25] <GeneralKenobi> I don't play Space Engineers anymore because some jerk
L745[13:33:35] <S3> used C#
L746[13:33:36] <S3> right?
L747[13:33:46] <GeneralKenobi> I still write in C#, you're dissing my Primary Language :P
L748[13:33:54] <S3> good.
L749[13:33:58] <S3> people dis mine every day
L750[13:34:04] <GeneralKenobi> If I want more instructioning, I'll write in C++
L751[13:34:09] <GeneralKenobi> But that's another story
L752[13:34:10] <S3> GROSS
L753[13:34:10] <Vexatos> S3, why are you even writing an operating system in Lua
L754[13:34:14] <S3> Nobody wants C++
L755[13:34:15] <Vexatos> and what is lob :X
L756[13:34:23] <GeneralKenobi> Hey, C++ is what's running right now on your Computer
L757[13:34:35] <S3> GeneralKenobi: uh...
L758[13:34:44] <S3> actually 99% of it is C
L759[13:34:51] <MalkContent> some jerk what?
L760[13:34:55] <S3> plus depends on which computer
L761[13:35:05] <Vexatos> S3, also, do you has github repo .-.
L762[13:35:07] <payonel> S3: depends if it is windows or linux
L763[13:35:22] <S3> what's windows?
L764[13:35:23] <GeneralKenobi> Windows NT 4 is near 90% C
L765[13:35:29] <S3> is that some sort of virus?
L766[13:35:45] <Ashindigo_> Its an OS that some people use
L767[13:35:56] <Forecaster> I use!
L768[13:35:58] <Forecaster> :D
L769[13:36:02] <GeneralKenobi> Linux is also mainly C, but the C++ is the Object Oriented Language whilst C is still statically typed, no classes
L770[13:36:12] <S3> I use PotatOS
L771[13:36:15] <S3> just kidding
L772[13:36:20] <S3> but that's what my CTCP says
L773[13:36:25] <S3> version string
L774[13:36:25] <GeneralKenobi> PotatOS is the BEST!
L775[13:36:27] <GeneralKenobi> :P
L776[13:36:31] <S3> No
L777[13:36:35] <S3> I'm a FreeBSD user mostly
L778[13:36:39] <Vexatos> can confirm
L779[13:36:41] <Forecaster> my CTCP would tell you what my server is running
L780[13:36:43] <Forecaster> :P
L781[13:36:45] <Forecaster> I think
L782[13:36:53] <GeneralKenobi> BSD ain't that bad
L783[13:36:55] <Vexatos> irssi 0.8.15?
L784[13:36:59] <GeneralKenobi> Yusm
L785[13:37:00] <S3> Forecaster: you should change it to ;like "Yep, server is still alive"
L786[13:37:04] <S3> your version string
L787[13:37:16] <Vexatos> S3, answer my questions D:
L788[13:37:20] <Forecaster> oh, apparently tells you what irc client I'm using :P
L789[13:37:22] <Forecaster> who knew
L790[13:37:27] <S3> GeneralKenobi: FreeBSD is beautiful
L791[13:37:27] <GeneralKenobi> irssi is Boss
L792[13:37:30] <Forecaster> oh, it*
L793[13:37:30] <S3> Vexatos: waaaaat
L794[13:37:34] <Vexatos> payonel, why did you even make a PR, that change is so small you could have just done a commit :P
L795[13:37:42] <GeneralKenobi> Anyways, I must get a FreeBSD VM for testing :D
L796[13:37:43] <Vexatos> <Vexatos> S3, why are you even writing an operating system in Lua
L797[13:37:46] <Vexatos> <Vexatos> and what is lob :X
L798[13:37:47] <Vexatos> <Vexatos> S3, also, do you has github repo .-.
L799[13:37:53] <S3> Vexatos: you don't change your irssi version string in the configure script to v0.0.0?
L800[13:38:01] <Vexatos> GeneralKenobi, I can give you FreeBSOD
L801[13:38:06] <payonel> and id like to know where you're getting these numbers :)
L802[13:38:07] <GeneralKenobi> <3 oh bby
L803[13:38:09] <Mimiru> %test
L804[13:38:11] <MichiBot> Mimiru: Success
L805[13:38:12] <Vexatos> S3, that is what forecaster told me
L806[13:38:16] <S3> Vexatos: sorta... I mean it's kinda mangled
L807[13:38:16] <Vexatos> forecaster's VERSION
L808[13:38:18] <Ashindigo_> %help
L809[13:38:22] <payonel> 90% C for windows? says who? i worker at msft, everthing i saw and worked on was c++
L810[13:38:23] <Vexatos> I don't use IRSSI
L811[13:38:26] <Vexatos> I use HexChat
L812[13:38:38] <Vexatos> Because I could make my own colour theme :X
L813[13:38:46] <Ashindigo_> %surrenderyoursecrets
L814[13:38:54] <GeneralKenobi> sooperseekrets
L815[13:38:56] <payonel> i didn't do any lines of code checks to give you a %
L816[13:39:01] <Ashindigo_> Oh it did
L817[13:39:13] <payonel> Vexatos: bc i like prs. i'll merge it in a bit
L818[13:39:23] <Ashindigo_> %xkcd irc
L819[13:39:26] <MichiBot> Ashindigo_: https://xkcd.com/1782/ - *xkcd: Team Chat*: " · >|. Permanent link to this comic: http://xkcd.com/1782/ Image URL (for hotlinking/embedding): http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/team_chat.&quot;
L820[13:39:43] <GeneralKenobi> Because I'm supposed to believe someone I've never met that they work at Microsoft
L821[13:39:45] <S3> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1P_BlUY2eF4
L822[13:39:46] <MichiBot> Hex Girls | length: 3m 50s | Likes: 33,209 Dislikes: 1,273 Views: 7,359,616 | by foohycrazy | Published On 22/3/2008
L823[13:39:51] <S3> that kinda hex chat? ^
L824[13:39:52] <S3> :D
L825[13:40:02] <Vexatos> S3, just ask my CTCP ,-,
L826[13:40:04] <payonel> GeneralKenobi: o_O why would i like about that
L827[13:40:08] <payonel> lie*
L828[13:40:08] <Mimiru> Hey the HEx Girls are fucking awesome.
L829[13:40:16] <GeneralKenobi> >inb4 Emotions in Dance
L830[13:40:18] <S3> HAH
L831[13:40:23] <Mimiru> s/HE/He/
L832[13:40:23] <MichiBot> <Mimiru> Hey the Hex Girls are fucking awesome.
L833[13:40:24] <S3> Vexatos has a good one
L834[13:40:35] <GeneralKenobi> payonel->Cause I don't know you
L835[13:40:48] <Vexatos> S3, my favourite automated response is CTCP LMNOP
L836[13:40:57] <Vexatos> because it's a reference, and if you get it, you are cool
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L838[13:41:19] * Ashindigo_ isn't cool
L839[13:41:52] <S3> LOL
L840[13:42:10] <GeneralKenobi> So who wrote the OCEmu?
L841[13:42:16] <Mimiru> gamax92
L842[13:42:23] <vifino> gamax92!
L843[13:42:26] * Forecaster is super cool, but not for the reason you think
L844[13:42:28] <vifino> The one and only.
L845[13:42:44] <Vexatos> Forecaster, it's actually 4°C in here
L846[13:42:44] <Vexatos> so I am quite cool
L847[13:42:48] <GeneralKenobi> Is there any way I can get dummy IO to work?
L848[13:42:51] <gamax92> ahhhhh
L849[13:42:55] <vifino> Forecaster: don't inflate your ego, you are only slightly above average cool.
L850[13:43:12] <Vexatos> S3, so uuuh could you answer my questions about your whateverproject ,_, I'm curious
L851[13:43:17] <gamax92> dummy IP?
L852[13:43:34] <S3> Vexatos: right now it's scattered over like 5 directories until I'm happy with the way the project goes
L853[13:43:43] <S3> right now I'm working on the OC lua os
L854[13:43:53] <S3> but last weekend I was working on the C exokernel
L855[13:44:09] <gamax92> GeneralKenobi: what do you mean by that?
L856[13:44:13] <Vexatos> and why are you working on this at all ._. and what the hell is this .lob stuff
L857[13:44:27] <GeneralKenobi> Like get Redstone IO to work in this Emulator for testing
L858[13:44:35] <GeneralKenobi> or do I have to test on my server?
L859[13:44:47] <S3> so the C kernel is being built because I was bored a month ago with a desktop upstairs that has no OS
L860[13:45:31] <S3> the Lua kernel is being built because I never finished S3ix and it's time I do that, and I decided on a redesign to experiement with exokernels in OC.
L861[13:46:05] <GeneralKenobi> >This program requires a redstone card or redstone I/O block.
L862[13:46:05] <gamax92> GeneralKenobi: ocemu doesn't emulate redstone atm, sorry
L863[13:46:12] <GeneralKenobi> Alrighty then <3
L864[13:46:37] <Ashindigo_> OC emu?
L865[13:46:48] <GeneralKenobi> I remember back on Tekkit, I had a BASIC emulator, and I've even written an IDE for it too
L866[13:46:50] <S3> .lob files are similar to .o files, they're packages of multiple lua files glued together that share globals. if a .lob file has a _start global, it will call it as a function, so the kernel image has a _start. but the loadable modules do not.
L867[13:47:02] <S3> Vexatos: if that answers everything..
L868[13:47:26] <Vexatos> so .lob is just a lua text file after all?
L869[13:47:27] <S3> it prevents me from doing crazy initrd stuff at first
L870[13:47:30] <S3> yep.
L871[13:47:42] <S3> example lob:
L872[13:47:44] <Vexatos> and you literally compile multiple lua files into one
L873[13:48:27] <S3> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/WKWPaTDs/
L874[13:48:39] <S3> right.. the current version, like that one is pretty stupid
L875[13:48:54] <S3> but later on I will be able to do something like dump the globals and see what makes them up
L876[13:48:59] <S3> and glue multiple .lobs together
L877[13:49:17] <Marcel> A question for programming with IntellijIDEA - How can I setup my workspace correctly so that I can start over the debugger a minecraft instance to get then the place which code line is executed on the opened project?
L878[13:49:27] <S3> that lob will fail unless you set a = _ENV
L879[13:49:35] <S3> but again it's WIP
L880[13:49:53] <GeneralKenobi> time to learn the Exposed API
L881[13:50:07] <Vexatos> mhm.
L882[13:50:17] <Vexatos> S3, lobster glue :3
L883[13:50:22] <GeneralKenobi> If only I had xChat on my top-most monitor where it should be...
L884[13:50:38] <GeneralKenobi> euch... I'd rather just irssi on the Pi
L885[13:50:44] <S3> well my old method Vexatos was a giant file collection of named files and overloading require
L886[13:51:02] <S3> and then I thought, why? why not just have modules of multiple files that are independent of load order..
L887[13:51:12] <S3> and just represent themselves like a library
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L889[13:51:53] <S3> what I do need to do is find a way to embed these lob files so that I can glue kernel module .lobs
L890[13:52:06] <S3> to the iumage lob and they magically are locatable by the kernel
L891[13:52:26] <S3> so the kernel can just initialize all builtin modules on boot or something (for hard drive access on umanaged root drives, etc)
L892[13:52:56] <S3> I may do this by providing lob signatures..
L893[13:53:13] <S3> so that a lob file can see all other objects in itself
L894[13:54:07] <Forecaster> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-VDVI1GMZk
L895[13:54:08] <MichiBot> Showing My Desk to Adam Savage | length: 20m 52s | Likes: 19,540 Dislikes: 222 Views: 138,201 | by Vsauce | Published On 4/2/2017
L896[13:54:14] <Forecaster> stuff!
L897[13:54:24] <S3> Vexatos: the other possible feaure is to do lazy loading, where files arent even passed througfh load() until a global that points to it is called.
L898[13:54:37] <Vexatos> so basically what require is
L899[13:54:49] <S3> I suppose
L900[13:54:59] <S3> I dunno if that is even worth the memory saving
L901[13:55:33] <S3> Vexatos: to be honest I would like it better if I could just embed a .tar or something
L902[13:55:37] <S3> with a lua loading footer
L903[13:56:08] <S3> or ar
L904[13:56:18] <payonel> S3: measure before you make too many assumptions. "lazy loading" in lua is almost always more memory expension
L905[13:56:26] <payonel> expensive*
L906[13:56:27] <Vexatos> So regarding earlier, I just checked, and require("selene") loading selene/init.lua definitely is standard Lua behaviour
L907[13:56:39] <S3> yeah I know
L908[13:56:48] <Vexatos> well you can implement tar in lua
L909[13:56:50] <S3> I was loading it weird.
L910[13:57:02] <Vexatos> in fact https://github.com/OpenPrograms/gamax92-Programs/blob/master/tar/tar.lua
L911[13:57:16] <payonel> the delay loading in openos is so convoluted specifically because of that
L912[13:57:56] <S3> payonel: ?!
L913[13:58:00] <S3> OpenOS has tar things?
L914[13:58:16] <payonel> i'm only talking about lazy loading libraries when needed
L915[13:58:21] <payonel> 2 topics here
L916[13:58:26] <S3> ah
L917[13:58:52] <payonel> and no, openos does not come with a decompression/compression tool
L918[13:58:53] <S3> if I make all lob files .tar files, then we lose the ability to just load them directly as lua files, however..
L919[13:59:02] <S3> well tar doesn't do compression
L920[13:59:12] * payonel rolls eyes
L921[13:59:18] <payonel> it could be a 1:1 ratio :P
L922[13:59:23] <S3> LOL
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L932[13:59:32] <Vexatos> if you want compression, well, zip/gzip
L933[13:59:32] <S3> woun't it be >1:1 ?
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L935[13:59:36] <S3> due to tar overhead
L936[13:59:57] <S3> it's doo bad gzip is on the data card
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L938[14:00:02] <S3> I wish it was built into the OC machine
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L940[14:00:23] <Vexatos> Well you can still implement it yourself
L941[14:00:26] <S3> yeah....
L942[14:00:31] <S3> but time..
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L944[14:00:46] <S3> I have all the time in the world except not enough time for that
L945[14:00:56] <Vexatos> S3...
L946[14:00:57] <Vexatos> google
L947[14:01:00] <Vexatos> "Lua gzip"
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L951[14:02:12] <S3> oppm files are .tar right?
L952[14:02:21] <Marcel> nobody an idea?
L953[14:02:22] <Vexatos> w h a t
L954[14:02:28] <Vexatos> oppm... "files"?
L955[14:02:29] <Antheus> a s t h e t i c
L956[14:02:34] <Forecaster> dammit, esper server went down for mantenance
L957[14:02:34] <S3> packages*
L958[14:02:42] <Forecaster> how did I make znc reconnect again...
L959[14:02:43] <S3> I thought oppm packages had some sort of format
L960[14:02:46] <Vexatos> oppm packages are directories in github repos
L961[14:02:51] <Vexatos> or, well
L962[14:02:54] <S3> ah..
L963[14:02:55] <Ashindigo_> Doesn't oppm just download lua files?
L964[14:02:55] <Vexatos> files in github repos, generally
L965[14:03:04] <Vexatos> it downloads any file you tell it to download
L966[14:03:09] <S3> I see
L967[14:03:14] <Vexatos> and you tell it in the repo's prorgams.cfg
L968[14:03:22] <Vexatos> programs.cfg*
L969[14:03:29] <payonel> careful not to specify "/",it'll download the whole of the internets
L970[14:03:32] <Vexatos> S3, http://ocdoc.cil.li/tutorial:program:oppm
L971[14:03:58] * Ashindigo_ goes off to download the whole internoot
L972[14:04:06] <S3> I see...
L973[14:04:37] <Forecaster> dammit
L974[14:05:03] <S3> I could make my own thing..
L975[14:08:30] <S3> if I keep lob files in pure lua format I can set the code to nil once they are load()
L976[14:08:36] <S3> so that they save memory (maybe?)
L977[14:08:48] <MindWorX> The time has come Vexatos ... Going to test the new debug card stuff now.
L978[14:08:55] <MindWorX> Gone are the days of redstone blocks!
L979[14:08:57] <Vexatos> oh no
L980[14:09:00] <MindWorX> GONE ARE THE DAYS OF AGONY!
L981[14:09:26] <Forecaster> @Mimiru do you know how to force znc to reconnect? >:
L982[14:09:44] <Forecaster> I should have bound that command to an alias...
L983[14:10:28] <Mimiru> /znc connect
L984[14:11:00] <Forecaster> I mean that I can use from my client
L985[14:11:06] <S3> Mimiru: Disconnected from ZNC. Please reconnect.
L986[14:11:07] <Mimiru> yeah... /znc connect
L987[14:11:14] <Forecaster> I don't have that
L988[14:11:20] <Mimiru> If you can't use that from your client.. then your client sucks.
L989[14:11:29] <Mimiru> then just message *status connect
L990[14:11:38] <Mimiru> but I can use /znc from hexchat with no issue...
L991[14:11:39] <S3> Mimiru: I just dod the *status thing anyways
L992[14:11:53] <S3> you can get it to work with irssi
L993[14:11:55] <Mimiru> and hexchat doesn't have explicit support for it, /znc is provided by znc.
L994[14:11:59] <S3> it's just a perl module iirc
L995[14:12:34] <S3> that's because hexchat probably sends all unrecognized shit to the server..
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L999[14:13:23] <Forecaster> oh, I'm back now I guess
L1000[14:13:26] <Forecaster> :P
L1001[14:13:34] <Forecaster> I guess the server came back online
L1002[14:14:59] <AshIndigo> so many oppm programs
L1003[14:15:22] <Kodos> Mmmm waffles
L1004[14:15:57] <Forecaster> S3 how do you do the status thing?
L1005[14:16:27] <Mimiru> /msg *status help
L1006[14:18:47] <MindWorX> So far so good Vexatos. I see debug_message. You've done good son.
L1007[14:19:01] <Vexatos> You aren't my real dad
L1008[14:19:07] <Vexatos> I know because that guy can barely use his PC
L1009[14:19:27] <MindWorX> Foiled again!
L1010[14:19:31] <Vexatos> Bwahahaha
L1011[14:19:46] <MindWorX> So close to getting access to all your memes ...
L1012[14:20:02] <Vexatos> I have never seen a map using OC
L1013[14:20:04] <Vexatos> :X
L1014[14:20:32] <Vexatos> All I know that it's basically "Debug Card: The mod" for custom maps
L1015[14:21:04] <AshIndigo> -.- OC computer please
L1016[14:21:05] <MindWorX> I'm using OC to track time spent and penalties in the map I'm toying with.
L1017[14:22:06] <MindWorX> Right now I need to fix my time calculations though. :P
L1018[14:22:19] <MindWorX> Display shows day 144, but it's actually day 40 ...
L1019[14:25:05] <MindWorX> Not sure what I'm doing wrong though.
L1020[14:25:28] <MindWorX> math.floor(os.time() / 24000); should give me the number of days right? 24000 ticks per day and os.time() returns the number of ticks since the world started?
L1021[14:26:46] <Vexatos> http://ocdoc.cil.li/api:non-standard-lua-libs
L1022[14:28:25] <Vexatos> read os.time there
L1023[14:28:58] <MindWorX> Ah
L1024[14:30:04] <MindWorX> Wait
L1025[14:30:12] <MindWorX> I could use os.date couldn't it?
L1026[14:30:14] <MindWorX> I*
L1027[14:30:21] <MindWorX> I need days, mins and hours of gametime.
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L1031[14:31:49] <Forecaster> maybe you could
L1032[14:31:53] <Forecaster> maybe > . >
L1033[14:31:54] <Forecaster> < . <
L1034[14:32:06] <MindWorX> You're so helpful today Forecaster ;)
L1035[14:32:23] <Forecaster> I know right
L1036[14:32:29] <Vexatos> MindWorX, os.date has the same format as standard Lua
L1037[14:32:43] <MindWorX> Should do the trick then I guess
L1038[14:33:31] <Vexatos> MindWorX, for formatting codes https://www.lua.org/pil/22.1.html
L1039[14:33:42] <MindWorX> Yeah, was just looking at it.
L1040[14:34:03] <MindWorX> Giving it a try
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L1082[14:41:13] <AshIndigo> oh wow 3d printing is cool
L1083[14:41:40] <GeneralKenobi> indeed
L1084[14:41:57] <Forecaster> I've not tried that yet
L1085[14:42:11] <Forecaster> regardless of if you're talking real-life or OC
L1086[14:42:12] <Forecaster> :P
L1087[14:42:20] <AshIndigo> OC right now
L1088[14:42:33] <GeneralKenobi> I never understood how to use that :P
L1089[14:42:41] <MindWorX> Hmm, using os.date isn't great. I need the total number of days, but it only gives it to me as years, months and days. I'd have to convert it. Simpler to just use os.time then.
L1090[14:42:47] <AshIndigo> im just printing the examples right now
L1091[14:43:01] <MindWorX> Screenshots AshIndigo ;)
L1092[14:43:14] <AshIndigo> but i need to print more things!
L1093[14:43:23] <MindWorX> Print a screenshot of the screenshot
L1094[14:43:48] <payonel> 3d print it
L1095[14:45:16] <Kodos> Then take a picture of it with the Computronics Camera
L1096[14:45:27] <AshIndigo> http://imgur.com/a/0VfBZ
L1097[14:46:38] <GeneralKenobi> http://imgur.com/a/0VfBZ
L1098[14:46:47] <GeneralKenobi> crap, sorry
L1099[14:46:52] <AshIndigo> :|
L1100[14:47:32] <MindWorX> Cute :P
L1101[14:47:39] <GeneralKenobi> this client is sensitive like that... I copy, then with an accidental right-click, it will paste and send -,-
L1102[14:47:45] <MindWorX> Playes well with Chisel 'n' Bits?
L1103[14:48:00] <AshIndigo> on 1.7.10 so no c&b for me
L1104[14:48:13] <MindWorX> Ah
L1105[14:48:35] <MindWorX> Been playing around with C&B a bit. It's pretty cool.
L1106[14:49:00] <MindWorX> Not sure how it performs on a large scale though.
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L1108[14:51:33] <Vexatos> prints are forge-multipart compatible :⁾
L1109[14:51:43] <MindWorX> Can I configure a computer to prefer a certain gpu when booting?
L1110[14:51:50] <Vexatos> So you can cover your OC cables with them if you have that
L1111[14:51:58] <Vexatos> MindWorX, ask payonel
L1112[14:51:59] <AshIndigo> i like that ;)
L1113[14:52:20] <MindWorX> What kind of crooked perethesis is that? :P
L1114[14:56:08] <Vexatos> "I have no idea"
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L1116[14:59:17] <payonel> MindWorX: preferred primary components? no sorry
L1117[14:59:34] <payonel> that would cause issues with gpu and screen. you need a few commands to put things back in order
L1118[15:00:10] <payonel> i felt that was edge case enough to not build in "it just works"
L1119[15:01:58] <payonel> from just thinking about it, you'd probably first want to grab the screen bound to the current gpu. then set the new primary,and push a "component_available" event for either the screen or the gpu
L1120[15:02:13] <payonel> then i believe the component listeners would rebind and update the terminal from there
L1121[15:02:23] <MindWorX> Hm
L1122[15:02:47] <MindWorX> Well, it's not too critical. I just have 4 displays, in all 4 cardinal directions, so I need to fly around to find the display to see any errors. :P
L1123[15:03:07] <MindWorX> http://i.imgur.com/kqbQVyn.png
L1124[15:03:36] <payonel> :) cool
L1125[15:07:26] <Forecaster> oh good, steam needs me to verify my email address
L1126[15:07:28] <Forecaster> again...
L1127[15:08:05] <MindWorX> Vexatos, How do I get the actual message from a debug_message?
L1128[15:08:39] <MindWorX> http://i.imgur.com/G7OGOdG.png
L1129[15:08:47] <MindWorX> That's all I get from the event.
L1130[15:09:09] <MindWorX> I use the command /oc_sdbg 07bb585a-364b-4fd3-b512-5f265425c9ed test
L1131[15:09:49] <MindWorX> I'm guessing it should be in the last argument?
L1132[15:11:58] <Vexatos> run dmesg
L1133[15:11:59] <Vexatos> to see it
L1134[15:13:14] <MindWorX> dmesg?
L1135[15:13:45] <Vexatos> yea
L1136[15:13:49] <payonel> MindWorX: yeah in openos, dmesg gives you a nice event loop print out
L1137[15:14:33] <payonel> so run dmesg on a machine (leave it running) and then create your events
L1138[15:15:02] <MindWorX> Ah
L1139[15:15:09] <MindWorX> Yeah, I see it. Wonder what I'm doing wrong then.
L1140[15:15:12] <Vexatos> the message event is shaped like a modem message
L1141[15:15:26] <Vexatos> so there are two values that are just 0
L1142[15:15:30] <Vexatos> being the port and the distance
L1143[15:15:46] <MindWorX> Okay
L1144[15:16:02] <MindWorX> I wonder why I got an error before then. Lemme test again.
L1145[15:16:45] <MindWorX> Working now. I guess I just forgot a variable or something.
L1146[15:16:50] <MindWorX> Thanks!
L1147[15:17:57] <MindWorX> Time to see if I break it by sending the message from a command block or from a Better Questing book. :P
L1148[15:21:20] <MindWorX> Well well, it works.
L1149[15:21:54] <MindWorX> Is the command admin only Vexatos ?
L1150[15:25:45] <AshIndigo> http://imgur.com/a/9fcUV so why would i possbly make a t2 microcontroller
L1151[15:26:15] <Forecaster> it has the powah
L1152[15:27:41] <Mimiru> I think that's a typo.. lol
L1153[15:30:16] <AshIndigo> is there a way to duplicate whats on one screen to other connected screens?
L1154[15:33:08] <Forecaster> don't think so
L1155[15:33:25] <Forecaster> not unless your program is doing the writing
L1156[15:34:39] <AshIndigo> how would that work if im doing the writing?
L1157[15:34:57] <Forecaster> specifically write to a number of screens
L1158[15:35:31] <Forecaster> you can set the primary screen, write, set other primary screen, write again
L1159[15:35:35] <Forecaster> that's probably one way to do it
L1160[15:35:45] <MindWorX> AshIndigo, I actually have a program that does that. Although I use multiple gpus.
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L1162[15:35:59] <MindWorX> Each gpu is bound to a different screen and I then write to all of them with a few functions.
L1163[15:36:13] <Forecaster> there's another way
L1164[15:36:17] <Forecaster> that one is probably better
L1165[15:36:18] <AshIndigo> theres a term.screen
L1166[15:36:31] <AshIndigo> which then i can write to after binding
L1167[15:37:06] <AshIndigo> i presume i can re assign the gpu while the computer is on
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L1172[16:01:42] <Vexatos> MindWorX, should be
L1173[16:01:56] <payonel> yes, you can rebind gpu+screens
L1174[16:02:37] <payonel> openos and its term library are robust for removing a gpu or screen or keyboard, and adding one back
L1175[16:02:45] <payonel> even having many connected at once
L1176[16:03:13] <payonel> but -- it doesn't have much in place to make switching primary gpu or screens at run time
L1177[16:03:38] <payonel> it just makes sure 1 group is primary and does a good job not crashing when at all possible
L1178[16:05:14] <payonel> what i'm trying to say is, given many gpus/screens/keyboards -- openos does a great job making sure "it just works", but it leaves the management of using many at once up to the user
L1179[16:06:21] <AshIndigo> sounds good
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L1187[16:24:32] <scj643> I'm 18 now
L1188[16:25:09] * AshIndigo gets out the cake
L1189[16:25:14] <Forecaster> welcome to the >= 18 club
L1190[16:25:48] <Vexatos> Do you feel old yet?
L1191[16:26:18] <AshIndigo> sweet
L1192[16:26:20] <Inari> Congrats you're 18!
L1193[16:26:21] <AshIndigo> oops
L1194[16:26:30] <Inari> Enjoy your slihgtly increased freedom and your largely increased responsibilities
L1195[16:27:02] <Forecaster> #murica probably
L1196[16:30:07] <Inari> ?
L1197[16:30:23] <Inari> I don't know much that really changes between 17 and 18
L1198[16:30:34] <AshIndigo> a number
L1199[16:30:53] <AshIndigo> if(birthday) { age++; }
L1200[16:31:24] <Inari> And now you forgot you ran that in the OnUpdate which runs every millisecond
L1201[16:31:25] <Inari> ooops
L1202[16:31:53] <Forecaster> technically age goes up all the time
L1203[16:31:54] <AshIndigo> that was human v0.1
L1204[16:32:02] <Forecaster> it's just the display number that updates once per year
L1205[16:32:42] <Mimiru> yeah, age is a float, the display is an int though.
L1206[16:32:44] <Mimiru> :P
L1207[16:33:12] <Inari> Then the code would still be wrong
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L1209[16:44:00] <GeneralKenobi> :3
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L1212[17:09:10] <scj643> If birthday: age +=1
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L1221[18:26:52] <ironmountain> o/
L1222[18:27:14] <Mimiru> my home server's primary disk just died
L1223[18:27:27] <ironmountain> Did you have backups?
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L1229[19:41:25] <Kodos> o/
L1230[19:41:56] <Kodos> Quick poll: Is eating frozen waffles weird at all? Like, I don't cook them, I just buy a box of homestyle eggos and eat them out of the freezer
L1231[19:46:17] <ironmountain> Depends, do you use syrup or no?
L1232[19:48:41] <Kodos> Nope
L1233[19:48:46] <Kodos> I just pull them out of the box and eat them
L1234[19:48:56] <ironmountain> I think it's ok then
L1235[19:49:01] <Kodos> Okay
L1236[19:49:03] <Kodos> Wife thinks I'm weird
L1237[19:49:11] <Kodos> But
L1238[19:49:18] <Kodos> There's one very important factor I think she forgets to take into account
L1239[19:49:43] <Kodos> A few years ago, I lost my teeth to an oral infection that went full on systemic. Waffles are easy to eat snacks for me
L1240[19:49:59] <ironmountain> That'll do it
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L1246[20:17:06] <AshIndigo> so is a server a computer that can hold alot more stuff in one block?
L1247[20:19:07] <Kodos> It can handle more components, depending on the tier and number of buses you put in
L1248[20:19:21] <Kodos> I use servers for programs that can run passively, and computers for things that need interaction
L1249[20:19:28] <Kodos> Sometimes, I'll use servers for that, too, though
L1250[20:20:25] <AshIndigo> say i have 3 gpus in my server
L1251[20:20:53] <AshIndigo> in 3 different servers
L1252[20:21:00] <AshIndigo> could i access each one easily?
L1253[20:36:23] <Kodos> each server is a 'computer' so to speak
L1254[20:36:25] <Kodos> So yes
L1255[20:38:06] <AshIndigo> looks like im playing with something new tonight
L1256[20:40:05] <AshIndigo> O.o i cant remove cables from my me
L1257[20:52:39] <AshIndigo> crap... inventory tweaks dropped my tablet..,
L1258[20:52:50] <AshIndigo> and now i dont know where it is
L1259[20:54:30] <Kodos> And that's why I don't use InvTWeaks
L1260[20:55:01] <Kodos> Gonna go watch my online tv show. Ping me if you need any help
L1261[20:55:16] <AshIndigo> have fun
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L1270[21:52:38] <Kodos> Oh boy
L1271[21:52:41] <Kodos> Can't wait for next week
L1272[21:52:54] <Kodos> Now to clean up dinner and then fire up Powerless
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L1275[22:05:58] <AshIndigo> is there a command to restore old hard drives?
L1276[22:08:46] <Kodos> Not that I know of, no
L1277[22:09:01] <Kodos> This is why I usually edit externally, and copypaste my code later
L1278[22:09:21] <AshIndigo> eh... it was a short program anyway
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L1282[23:40:18] <Izaya> Ashindigo_: it'll be in the world folder somewhere
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