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L2[00:04:21] <payonel> https://github.com/payonel/OpenComputers/commits/openos-1.6.1
L3[00:04:23] <payonel> :)
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L6[00:23:27] <ankl> кто я?
L7[00:24:55] <ankl>
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L8[00:25:03] <gamax92> English please
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L23[01:33:00] <Skye> Morning
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L50[06:10:30] 
<Lizzy>
damn, today was the first time Python's indentational nature bit me
in the arse
<Lizzy>
damn, today was the first time Python's indentational nature bit me
in the arseL51[06:10:45] <Forecaster> ?
L52[06:11:54] <Lizzy> the
"else" part of a code segment got indented enough to be
under a different if statement than intended, so my small test app
wasn't closing sockets when they had no data
<Lizzy> the
"else" part of a code segment got indented enough to be
under a different if statement than intended, so my small test app
wasn't closing sockets when they had no dataL53[06:12:11] <Forecaster> ah
L54[06:18:31] <Lizzy> so
rather than the app closing and removing sockets, it just kept them
then overflowed the max that select could use
<Lizzy> so
rather than the app closing and removing sockets, it just kept them
then overflowed the max that select could useL55[06:20:04] <Inari> Thats why you don't
define blocks by indentation
L56[06:20:25] <Lizzy>
?
<Lizzy>
?L57[06:20:27] ⇦
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L58[06:20:33] <Inari> {} <3
L59[06:22:56] <Lizzy> meh,
some day i may use a language that uses braces for code blocks, but
for now i'ma stick with Python
<Lizzy> meh,
some day i may use a language that uses braces for code blocks, but
for now i'ma stick with PythonL60[06:23:44] <Skye> Use lua!
L61[06:23:50] <Lizzy>
no
<Lizzy>
noL62[06:28:33] ⇨
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L63[06:28:41] <LuMistry> Greetings
L64[06:44:33] <Inari> http://i.imgur.com/HSZ7vxO.gifv
L65[06:44:35] <Inari> Ohi
L66[06:52:33] <Mimiru> Gotta fucking love
the "It doesn't work" tickets
L67[06:57:16] <Forecaster> they're the most
thoughtful and helpful ones
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L69[07:04:28] <Mimiru> https://github.com/PC-Logix/OpenFM/issues/55
L70[07:07:04] <LuMistry> Excellent level of
clarity
L71[07:13:52] <MGR>
@TYKUHN2 A tunnel card returns a modem_message with a port of
0
<MGR>
@TYKUHN2 A tunnel card returns a modem_message with a port of
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L74[07:31:50] <MGR>
@Forecaster I'm making $15 million / tick
<MGR>
@Forecaster I'm making $15 million / tickL75[07:31:59] <MGR> and I
still have a lot more building to go
<MGR> and I
still have a lot more building to goL76[07:43:09] ⇨
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L79[08:05:12] *
Inari puts a pendant charm on Temia that protects from
frog
L80[08:42:32] <S3> so my OC OS doesn't do a
pullsignal in the main loop at all
L81[08:42:35] <S3> I am proud of it
L82[08:42:45] <MGR>
That's... good?
<MGR>
That's... good?L83[08:43:19] <S3> yes.
L84[08:43:56] <S3> MGR everything is a
stream! so the open computers component bus service does it!
L85[08:43:56] <S3> :D
L86[08:43:59] <MGR>
good
<MGR>
goodL87[08:44:04] <MGR> oh
yeah
<MGR> oh
yeahL88[08:44:06] <MGR> that
thing
<MGR> that
thingL89[08:44:33] <S3> it treats the computer
itself as a component
L90[08:44:37] <S3> and therefore it has
events
L91[08:45:24] <MGR>
wat
<MGR>
watL92[08:45:29] <S3> this is cool MGR because
it allows you to replace it with a CC peripheral bus service
instead
L93[08:45:43] <MGR>
wat
<MGR>
watL94[08:45:53] <S3> so it could work
anywhere
L95[08:46:20] <S3> it becomes even
cooler
L96[08:46:31] <S3> since everything is a
stream, even ifconfig interfaces are streams
L97[08:46:36] <S3> and that means GERT can
be a stream
L98[08:46:45] <MGR>
wat
<MGR>
watL99[08:46:50] ⇨
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L100[08:46:51] <MGR> wait,
let me change it up
<MGR> wait,
let me change it upL101[08:46:51] <MGR>
wut
<MGR>
wutL102[08:46:58] <S3> lol
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L104[08:49:19] <S3> @MajGenRelativity:
What if I told you that with the stream libraries' sophisticated
filtering features, you can create a network without any
sockets?
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L106[08:49:33] <S3> just drop shit into a
stream
L107[08:49:46] <MGR>
elaborate on what you mean by sockets
<MGR>
elaborate on what you mean by socketsL108[08:49:47] <S3> I mean it is pretty
much the same thing but
L109[08:50:12] <S3> well a socket is
usually an abstraction on top of some sort of io channel /
stream
L110[08:50:23] <MGR> oh
ok
<MGR> oh
okL111[08:50:26] ⇦
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L112[08:50:37] <MGR> S3,
actually I think I will make GERTi fully OCR compliant too
<MGR> S3,
actually I think I will make GERTi fully OCR compliant tooL113[08:50:40] <S3> but in this case you
have direct access to the stream as if it were like any other
L114[08:50:51] <S3> what do you mean
L115[08:51:06] <MGR> after
some meditation (i.e. my subconscious working on it while I'm
asleep), it wouldn't take that much work to replicate the VPI/VCI
architecture in GERTi
<MGR> after
some meditation (i.e. my subconscious working on it while I'm
asleep), it wouldn't take that much work to replicate the VPI/VCI
architecture in GERTiL116[08:51:23] <MGR> it's
actually pretty much how it was going to work from the
beginning
<MGR> it's
actually pretty much how it was going to work from the
beginningL117[08:51:29] <S3> unless you have a very
good reason, I would recommend using the vpi / vci model for
interconnecting networks rather than all the hosts
L118[08:51:39] <MGR> but
why not?
<MGR> but
why not?L119[08:51:52] <S3> right nothing is
stopping you. it's not against the spec
L120[08:52:11] <MGR> each
computer has a connection to it's neighbors (a VPI), and then the
sockets I was going to expose are just VCIs by another name
<MGR> each
computer has a connection to it's neighbors (a VPI), and then the
sockets I was going to expose are just VCIs by another nameL121[08:52:27] <S3> the benefits of not
using vpi / vci on the end machines include: 1) machines don't have
to know what OCR is. 2) you can have more machines per
network
L122[08:52:27] <MGR>
its*
<MGR>
its*L123[08:52:35] <S3> you know the VPI is
only 8 bit right?
L124[08:52:52] <Corded> * MGR wasn't going
to cap it
L125[08:53:55] <S3> well whatyever works
best. I am revisioning OCR_NNR so that it doesn't need the vpi /
vci stuff for every host lol
L126[08:54:17] <MGR> S3, a
VCI won't be made for each originator-final endpoint
<MGR> S3, a
VCI won't be made for each originator-final endpointL127[08:54:26] <MGR> just
computer to its directly adjacent neighbor
<MGR> just
computer to its directly adjacent neighborL128[08:54:32] <S3> ?
L129[08:54:33] <MGR> and a
new VCI would be made from there, and so on
<MGR> and a
new VCI would be made from there, and so onL130[08:54:46] <MGR> say
you have a network like this A --- B --- C
<MGR> say
you have a network like this A --- B --- CL131[08:54:49] <S3> ok
L132[08:54:54] <S3> is B a router?
L133[08:54:56] <MGR> a VCI
would only extend from A to B, but not to C
<MGR> a VCI
would only extend from A to B, but not to CL134[08:55:18] <MGR> B is a
computer running GERTi, technically meets the definition of a
router though
<MGR> B is a
computer running GERTi, technically meets the definition of a
router thoughL135[08:55:20] <S3> so then how do A and C
communicate?
L136[08:55:30] <MGR> B
makes a VCI with C on startup
<MGR> B
makes a VCI with C on startupL137[08:55:55] <MGR> but it
would be done transparently, so all a program would see is that A
can talk to B and C
<MGR> but it
would be done transparently, so all a program would see is that A
can talk to B and CL138[08:55:58] <S3> that's how OCR already
works. the VCI will (likelu) change every hop in OCR
L139[08:56:05] <S3> likely*
L140[08:56:16] <MGR>
yeah
<MGR>
yeahL141[08:56:20] <S3> a vci is just another
channel of a vpi
L142[08:56:30] <MGR> so
because GERTi does that, it is OCR compliant
<MGR> so
because GERTi does that, it is OCR compliantL143[08:56:51] <S3> so what does a GERTi
routing table look like?
L144[08:56:53] <S3> or does it have
one
L145[08:56:59] <MGR> It
'has' one
<MGR> It
'has' oneL146[08:57:00] <S3> how does one find a
telephone # in gerti with this
L147[08:57:10] <S3> or, convert it to a
uuid
L148[08:57:11] <MGR> uhhh,
let me see if it's in the repo
<MGR> uhhh,
let me see if it's in the repoL150[08:58:32] <MGR>
GERTi's still a WIP, very much so, which means I will be making
revisions/improvements/making it actually work in the coming
weeks
<MGR>
GERTi's still a WIP, very much so, which means I will be making
revisions/improvements/making it actually work in the coming
weeksL151[08:58:34] <S3> nillerino
L152[08:58:39] <S3> lol
L153[08:58:50] <MGR>
yes
<MGR>
yesL154[08:59:01] <MGR> one of
the fundamental particles of programming
<MGR> one of
the fundamental particles of programmingL155[08:59:20] <MGR> one of
the others is the very common errorino
<MGR> one of
the others is the very common errorinoL156[08:59:27] <MGR> which
transmits the error force
<MGR> which
transmits the error forceL157[09:00:51] <MGR> the
print statements are just for debugging and will be removed in the
final product
<MGR> the
print statements are just for debugging and will be removed in the
final productL158[09:02:52] <S3> the big change in OCR
NNR is that link local addresses resolve directly to UUIDs
now
L159[09:02:58] <S3> instead of vpis
L160[09:03:14] <S3> I'm excited
L161[09:03:19] <MGR> I will
admit, I haven't been following NNR super closely, but that sounds
cool
<MGR> I will
admit, I haven't been following NNR super closely, but that sounds
coolL162[09:03:20] <FR^2> hmm. okay, this
evening I will scrape my resources together and start with oc
:D
L163[09:03:44] <S3> FR^2: ?
L164[09:04:18] <S3> MGR: Yeah. well, this
way, you can have a theoretical infinite (but limited to port count
on each machine) connected within a network
L165[09:04:33] <MGR> FR^2,
can I give you a tip on what you should do before you start working
with OC?
<MGR> FR^2,
can I give you a tip on what you should do before you start working
with OC?L166[09:04:39] <MGR> S3,
yeah
<MGR> S3,
yeahL167[09:04:43] <S3> and up to 65536 live
connections (because vci) into a network PER ROUTER
L168[09:04:47] <S3> so if you need
more
L169[09:04:52] <FR^2> hmm? sure, go
ahead
L170[09:04:53] <S3> just add two switches
side by side
L171[09:04:53] <MGR> GERTi
v1.0 will be limited by the modem ports I've allocated to it
<MGR> GERTi
v1.0 will be limited by the modem ports I've allocated to itL172[09:04:54] <S3> :D
L173[09:04:58] <MGR> ~1,000
I think
<MGR> ~1,000
I thinkL174[09:05:13] <S3> FR^2: no what are you
talking about
L175[09:05:20] <MGR> more
like 50, but I'll expand that later
<MGR> more
like 50, but I'll expand that laterL176[09:05:27] <S3> hmm
L177[09:05:44] <MGR> FR^2,
go to https://github.com/GlobalEmpire/GERT
and open an issue so you can reserve a GERTe telephone
number!
<MGR> FR^2,
go to https://github.com/GlobalEmpire/GERT
and open an issue so you can reserve a GERTe telephone
number!L178[09:05:48] <S3> port is 16 bit on the
modems
L179[09:05:54] <S3> so 65536 ports
L180[09:05:57] <MGR> That
way you can get on the Oranet highway right away
<MGR> That
way you can get on the Oranet highway right awayL181[09:06:03] <MGR> (when
it opens)
<MGR> (when
it opens)L182[09:06:14] <S3> yeah!
L183[09:06:23] <S3> the Minecraft
internet!
L184[09:06:23] <FR^2> opencomputers ;) I
really would like to fiddle around with it, but in the beginning,
the items are quite expensive ;)
L185[09:06:29] <MGR> S3,
yeah, I'm going to just open the reservation on the GERT repo
<MGR> S3,
yeah, I'm going to just open the reservation on the GERT repoL186[09:06:48] <MGR>
because I'm trying to get everyone to log what modem ports their
applications are using to reduce conflicts
<MGR>
because I'm trying to get everyone to log what modem ports their
applications are using to reduce conflictsL187[09:07:05] <S3> MGR: what do you think
of a website that allowed you to reserve stuff?
L188[09:07:16] <MGR> S3,
what?
<MGR> S3,
what?L189[09:07:35] <S3> also, I am looking to
add another address type to OCR NNR
L190[09:07:40] <S3> the gert address
tunnel type
L191[09:07:43] <MGR> by the
way FR^2, you can do any combination of a 7 digit number
<MGR> by the
way FR^2, you can do any combination of a 7 digit numberL192[09:07:55] <S3> so a phone number like
this: 123-4567
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L194[09:08:16] <MGR>
^^^^^^^^^^^
<MGR>
^^^^^^^^^^^L195[09:08:31] <MGR> S3, I
should have NNR tunneling in GERT
<MGR> S3, I
should have NNR tunneling in GERTL196[09:08:39] <S3> may end up looking
like 2020::000001234567
L197[09:08:41] <MGR> then
we can have infinite recursive tunneling
<MGR> then
we can have infinite recursive tunnelingL198[09:08:42] <Forecaster> FR^2: they're
less expensive than they used to be though
L199[09:08:45] <S3> if that makes
sense
L200[09:09:00] <S3> and allows NNR and
GERT networks to connect to eachother seamlessly
L201[09:09:11] <S3> without knowing
anything about eachother
L202[09:09:13] <MGR> to
understand recursion, see recursion
<MGR> to
understand recursion, see recursionL203[09:09:19] <S3> lol
L204[09:10:35] <FR^2> MGR: What for? I
don't understand the context and relation to OpenComputers...
:/
L205[09:11:10] <MGR> FR^2,
GERT is a technology that allows you to easily connect to OC
computers together, and even connect to computers on another MC
server
<MGR> FR^2,
GERT is a technology that allows you to easily connect to OC
computers together, and even connect to computers on another MC
serverL206[09:11:17] <MGR> Or
connect OC computers to real-world computers
<MGR> Or
connect OC computers to real-world computersL207[09:11:44] <MGR> S3 is
working on the base technology, while Gavle and I do work on the
routing technology that sits on top
<MGR> S3 is
working on the base technology, while Gavle and I do work on the
routing technology that sits on topL208[09:11:46] ***
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L209[09:12:29] <FR^2> ah, okay.
L210[09:12:30] <MGR>
reserving a phone number means that you will have a publicly
reachable address for that server
<MGR>
reserving a phone number means that you will have a publicly
reachable address for that serverL211[09:12:31] <S3> FR^2: we're making an
internet
L212[09:12:37] <S3> reinventing it
L213[09:12:46] <MGR> pick a
7 digit number you like, and open an issue on that repo
<MGR> pick a
7 digit number you like, and open an issue on that repoL214[09:12:54] <FR^2> well, in past
servers/maps I already connected ESP8266 with minecraft using
computercraft ;)
L215[09:13:11] <MGR> but
this is probably better ?
<MGR> but
this is probably better ?L216[09:13:31] <MGR> also,
we're hoping to get the tech embedded in OpenOS itself
<MGR> also,
we're hoping to get the tech embedded in OpenOS itselfL217[09:13:35] <Corded> * MGR nudges
payonel
L218[09:13:44] <S3> yes we need that
L219[09:13:49] <S3> as a background
service
L220[09:13:52] <MGR>
yes
<MGR>
yesL221[09:14:42] <S3> the beauty of the OCR
specification is that it's really intended to find a
"path" to where the other host is
L222[09:14:48] <S3> not necessarily find
the host itself
L223[09:14:48] <MGR>
yeah
<MGR>
yeahL224[09:15:18] <S3> allowing you to use
routing technologies such as IP or GERT or NNR or whatever you
want
L225[09:15:20] <MGR>
GERT+OCR handles all the routing and connecting and stuff for you,
so you just open a port (like with a modem), and throw information
at it
<MGR>
GERT+OCR handles all the routing and connecting and stuff for you,
so you just open a port (like with a modem), and throw information
at itL226[09:15:21] <S3> and yes I said
IP
L227[09:16:12] <S3> NNR is better suited
for real computing in the real world, where you have binary data
structures. the organization of an NNR address is easy to read and
100% in word aligned order
L228[09:16:14] <S3> naturally
L229[09:16:30] <S3> allowing you to
quickly and efficiently create a C struct representing it in the
order you read it as a human being
L230[09:16:50] <S3> at least in a systems
programming way
L231[09:17:01] <S3> so I can use NNR to
connect my microcontroller projects to minecraft
L232[09:17:06] <S3> and have GERT connect
my OC machines
L233[09:19:05] <S3> MGR if you wanted to
interface NNR instead of using alien routing (which has no spec
yet), then I would recommend doing more of a NAT thing, where you
generate an NNR compatible telephone number address, such as the
one I showed above, and translated between them (if you're
bordering an NNR network)
L234[09:19:10] <S3> that's one way to do
iot
L235[09:19:12] <S3> it*
L236[09:19:29] <S3> you pronbably wouldn't
even need to really NAT
L237[09:19:47] <S3> in fact..
L238[09:19:54] <S3> hm
L239[09:19:59] <MGR> well,
that's going to be put on the back burner until I can get GERT
finished and working
<MGR> well,
that's going to be put on the back burner until I can get GERT
finished and workingL240[09:20:02] <S3> it depends on how your
routing works
L241[09:20:05] <S3> right
L242[09:20:49] <MGR> if all
the NNR computers bordering GERTi computers can accept GERTi
messages, they can actually just cloak themselves as another GERTi
computer
<MGR> if all
the NNR computers bordering GERTi computers can accept GERTi
messages, they can actually just cloak themselves as another GERTi
computerL243[09:20:56] <MGR> and
then handle the routing from there in NNR
<MGR> and
then handle the routing from there in NNRL244[09:21:34] <S3> well for the most part
you'll never need to use NNR
L245[09:21:37] <S3> you can just use
OCR
L246[09:21:41] <MGR>
ye
<MGR>
yeL247[09:21:51] <S3> but I will be using
NNR for my networks
L248[09:21:56] <MGR> or
just use GERT for everything forever ?
<MGR> or
just use GERT for everything forever ?L249[09:22:03] <S3> since I'll be
connecting my desktop in my house upstairs via NNR
L250[09:22:08] <S3> lol
L251[09:23:39] <MGR> FR^2,
did you get the link to the Github repository?
<MGR> FR^2,
did you get the link to the Github repository?L252[09:24:14] <S3> hehehehe
L253[09:24:24] <S3> so my main loop for
the OS...
L254[09:24:30] <MGR> IS A
STREAM
<MGR> IS A
STREAML255[09:24:32] <S3> function _main()
return _main() end
L256[09:24:36] <S3> not quite
L257[09:24:39] <MGR>
aw
<MGR>
awL258[09:24:46] <S3> that'd be fucking
hilarious
L259[09:24:53] <S3> dude I should do
that
L260[09:25:16] <MGR> It's
your time \o/
<MGR> It's
your time \o/L261[09:25:23] <S3> well think of
this
L262[09:25:27] <S3> what if every service
was a stream
L263[09:25:36] <S3> and every
process.
L264[09:25:48] <S3> except that processes
are lower priority
L265[09:26:00] <MGR> what
if every stream was another stream?
<MGR> what
if every stream was another stream?L266[09:26:14] <MGR>
stream-ception
<MGR>
stream-ceptionL267[09:26:21] <Corded> * MGR yells
bwaaaaaaaaaaang
L268[09:26:55] <S3> yes
L269[09:27:04] <S3> what if every stream
was recursively pointing to itself?
L270[09:27:16] <FR^2> MGR: yes
L271[09:27:24] <S3> I can do that you
know
L272[09:27:31] <MGR> S3,
you should
<MGR> S3,
you shouldL273[09:27:37] <MGR> FR^2,
just making sure ?
<MGR> FR^2,
just making sure ?L274[09:27:49] <MGR> I want
people to reserve now while they can still pick their numbers
<MGR> I want
people to reserve now while they can still pick their numbersL275[09:28:11] <S3> are you using any sort
of system for the deployment of these numbers?
L276[09:28:13] <MGR>
Eventually, I will just turn it over to GERT PRIME and it will
auto-generate numbers that increment slowly towards the max
<MGR>
Eventually, I will just turn it over to GERT PRIME and it will
auto-generate numbers that increment slowly towards the maxL277[09:28:13] <S3> what is your number
plan?
L278[09:28:53] <MGR> for
right now, people pick their own numbers, open an issue, and I put
them in the reserved document
<MGR> for
right now, people pick their own numbers, open an issue, and I put
them in the reserved documentL279[09:29:19] <MGR>
eventually, people will just run a program that phones GERT PRIME,
and it gives them an automatically generated number
<MGR>
eventually, people will just run a program that phones GERT PRIME,
and it gives them an automatically generated numberL280[09:30:01] <FR^2> thanks ;)
L281[09:30:27] <MGR> FR^2,
no problem, and I'll be thanking you when I see that issue open
?
<MGR> FR^2,
no problem, and I'll be thanking you when I see that issue open
?L282[09:30:50] <MGR> and
I'm sorry if I seem pushy, I'm just really excited
<MGR> and
I'm sorry if I seem pushy, I'm just really excitedL283[09:30:53] ⇦
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L284[09:31:19] <S3> Iwant 1-800-GERT
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L286[09:31:28] <MGR> S3,
open an issue
<MGR> S3,
open an issueL287[09:31:31] <S3> aww
L288[09:31:31] <MGR> I can
make it happen
<MGR> I can
make it happenL289[09:31:33] <S3> lol
L290[09:32:06] <MGR> For
real though, if you open the issue, I can assign that number to
you
<MGR> For
real though, if you open the issue, I can assign that number to
youL291[09:38:51] <S3> you're using
AAA-BBB-CCCC iirc
L292[09:39:13] <S3> you may want to
consider AA-BBB-CCC-DDDD
L293[09:39:26] <S3> the 12 digit
international standard
L294[09:39:34] <MGR> I'm
doing AAA-BBBB right now
<MGR> I'm
doing AAA-BBBB right nowL295[09:39:39] <S3> ah
L296[09:39:50] <S3> so my concern is
this
L297[09:39:53] <MGR> with
an optional CCC extension if you want to talk to a GERTi computer
in that network
<MGR> with
an optional CCC extension if you want to talk to a GERTi computer
in that networkL298[09:40:01] <S3> what if somebody asks
you, "can I have 500 numbers?"
L299[09:40:09] <MGR> I
would be like, "hell no"
<MGR> I
would be like, "hell no"L300[09:40:14] <S3> and why is that
L301[09:40:24] <MGR> unless
they had a good reason for that
<MGR> unless
they had a good reason for thatL302[09:40:30] <S3> heiarchy wise it makes
sense
L303[09:40:34] <S3> if you had a
network
L304[09:41:03] <S3> you'd want all people
on your network to have the same prefix
L305[09:41:10] <S3> because then routing
is easier
L306[09:41:12] <MGR> yeah,
and they can
<MGR> yeah,
and they canL307[09:41:21] <MGR> both
in OC, and IRL
<MGR> both
in OC, and IRLL308[09:41:35] <S3> but to do that, you
have to be able to partition your address space
L309[09:41:41] <S3> or number space in
your case
L310[09:41:52] <MGR> that's
what the 3 digit GERTi extension is for ?
<MGR> that's
what the 3 digit GERTi extension is for ?L311[09:42:02] <S3> oh?
L312[09:42:11] <MGR> same
prefix for the entire family, with an optional suffix if you want
to talk to a specific computer
<MGR> same
prefix for the entire family, with an optional suffix if you want
to talk to a specific computerL313[09:42:24] <S3> wha
L314[09:42:34] <S3> okay so
L315[09:42:41] <S3> lets say I have an
outpost
L316[09:42:46] <MGR>
ye
<MGR>
yeL317[09:43:03] <S3> and at my outpost, 30
kilometers away from the nearest town
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L319[09:43:20] <S3> I have a really long
immersive engineering telephone line connecting my outpost to you
guys 30KM away
L320[09:43:31] <S3> and I have 8 people in
my outpost liviung
L321[09:43:48] <MGR> with
you so far
<MGR> with
you so farL322[09:43:51] <S3> what would our numbers
look like and why
L323[09:44:21] <MGR> so, it
would look like AAA-BBBB for that network
<MGR> so, it
would look like AAA-BBBB for that networkL324[09:44:39] <MGR> and
then your outpost would have a CCC number that identifies each
machine uniquely
<MGR> and
then your outpost would have a CCC number that identifies each
machine uniquelyL325[09:45:14] <MGR> If you
tell a computer, "hey dial AAA-BBBB", it would dial the
gateway of that network, and then the gateway would decide what to
do with that information
<MGR> If you
tell a computer, "hey dial AAA-BBBB", it would dial the
gateway of that network, and then the gateway would decide what to
do with that informationL326[09:45:41] <MGR> but if
you told a computer, "hey dial AAA-BBBB-CCC", it would
dial the gateway, which would pass the information on to the
computer uniquely identified by CCC
<MGR> but if
you told a computer, "hey dial AAA-BBBB-CCC", it would
dial the gateway, which would pass the information on to the
computer uniquely identified by CCCL327[09:45:45] <MGR> which
would decide what to do
<MGR> which
would decide what to doL328[09:46:33] <MGR> FYI,
the standard behavior if you dial a gateway is for it to push a
signal with the information
<MGR> FYI,
the standard behavior if you dial a gateway is for it to push a
signal with the informationL329[09:46:42] <MGR> so
other programs could just listen for that signal and do something
with it
<MGR> so
other programs could just listen for that signal and do something
with itL330[09:48:46] <S3> ok so the entire
outpost would have one AAA-BBBB number then
L331[09:49:14] <MGR> well,
every descendant of the gateway would have that AAA-BBBB
number
<MGR> well,
every descendant of the gateway would have that AAA-BBBB
numberL332[09:49:31] <S3> I see
L333[09:49:41] <MGR>
including any computers in the main town hooked up to the
gateway
<MGR>
including any computers in the main town hooked up to the
gatewayL334[09:49:55] <MGR> but
every computer in that network would have a CCC number that is
unique to that network
<MGR> but
every computer in that network would have a CCC number that is
unique to that networkL335[09:50:29] <MGR> which
means you could have up to 1,000 computers behind any given GERTe
telephone number
<MGR> which
means you could have up to 1,000 computers behind any given GERTe
telephone numberL336[09:50:49] <S3> are you setting it up
so that one gateway can have more than one number?
L337[09:50:53] <S3> so that you can add
another 1000
L338[09:51:15] <MGR> that
functionality is not planned for v1.0 for 2 reasons
<MGR> that
functionality is not planned for v1.0 for 2 reasonsL339[09:51:22] <MGR> 1. It
would be a little trickier
<MGR> 1. It
would be a little trickierL340[09:51:46] <MGR> 2. If
you have more than 1,000 computers behind a single OC gateway, you
could start running into CPU/network constraints
<MGR> 2. If
you have more than 1,000 computers behind a single OC gateway, you
could start running into CPU/network constraintsL341[09:51:49] <S3> so you'd have to split
the network with two gert gateways
L342[09:52:06] <S3> heh
L343[09:52:13] <MGR>
Initially, yes
<MGR>
Initially, yesL344[09:52:20] <S3> the problem is
L345[09:52:23] <S3> vpi is 8 bit
L346[09:52:30] <S3> vpi 0 is
reserved
L347[09:52:38] <S3> so if you deploy vpi
inside of gerti that can be a problem
L348[09:52:40] <MGR> mostly
because I think you wouldn't be able to make effective use of 2,000
computers
<MGR> mostly
because I think you wouldn't be able to make effective use of 2,000
computersL349[09:52:49] <S3> because you can only
have 255 paths with OCR..
L350[09:52:51] <S3> oer node
L351[09:53:08] <S3> which if you're
talking networks connecting networks that's a LOT
L352[09:53:29] <S3> per node*
L353[09:54:00] <S3> which is why
implementing OCR for every end host may not be worth it, and you
may want to use OCR just for interconnections
L354[09:54:07] <S3> there is an
alternative.
L355[09:54:23] <S3> in an ATM network,
there are two types of cells. one is UNI, and the other is
NNI
L356[09:54:34] <S3> an NNI cell has more
channels
L357[09:55:05] <S3> well, with GERT, you
could make an extension to OCR and have a 16 bit VPI.
L358[09:55:10] <S3> or something larger
than 8
L359[09:55:31] <S3> but when I created OCR
I saw no need for more than 256 machines per network loop
L360[09:55:39] <S3> if you needed more you
just put another loop down
L361[09:55:53] <Skye> S3, is there any use
for messages that are just packets?
L362[09:56:08] <S3> Skye: ?
L363[09:56:28] <Skye> Like...
L364[09:57:03] <Skye> I'm wondering if
it's reasonable to go with virtual circuits all the time even when
some messages are really short.
L365[09:57:27] <MGR> Well,
I was just going to have the GERTi gateway stop logging children
after 1,000 nodes
<MGR> Well,
I was just going to have the GERTi gateway stop logging children
after 1,000 nodesL366[09:57:49] <Kodos>
Bleh
<Kodos>
BlehL367[09:58:02] <MGR> and
then after that, computers would connect and see neighbors and
stuff on the low-level, but a program wouldn't be able to talk to
them
<MGR> and
then after that, computers would connect and see neighbors and
stuff on the low-level, but a program wouldn't be able to talk to
themL368[09:58:10] <MGR> @Kodos
how are you today?
<MGR> @Kodos
how are you today?L369[09:58:17] <MGR> or was
the bleh your condition?
<MGR> or was
the bleh your condition?L370[09:59:18] <S3> Skye: OCR messages are
short
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L372[10:00:30] <S3> they're like 50
bytes
L373[10:00:34] <S3> oh I see what you
mean
L374[10:00:38] <S3> when the sessions are
short?
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L376[10:00:57] <Skye> S3, yea
L377[10:01:16] <MGR> well,
the connecting is only done once per startup
<MGR> well,
the connecting is only done once per startupL378[10:01:24] <MGR> (in
GERT)
<MGR> (in
GERT)L379[10:01:38] <MGR> so the
host would have to be restarting a lot for there to be a
significant amount of overhead
<MGR> so the
host would have to be restarting a lot for there to be a
significant amount of overheadL380[10:01:59] <Kodos>
Tired, hungry, thirsty (Which reminds me I have a glass of tea in
the fridge)
<Kodos>
Tired, hungry, thirsty (Which reminds me I have a glass of tea in
the fridge)L381[10:02:15] <Skye> What are the
addresses like?
L382[10:02:16] <S3> Skye: OCR is more
intended to connect networks together, so most of the time, the
vpis will probably be set up in most dense populated areas, and
vcis will be formed, but you're right. it takes time to form a
connection. however, nobody says you have to hangup a call, however
you should send an MIA message or something if you aren't using a
channel all the
L383[10:02:16] <S3> time once every so
often to keep it from tearing down
L384[10:02:17] <MGR> @Kodos
sleep, eat the glass, drink the tea ?
<MGR> @Kodos
sleep, eat the glass, drink the tea ?L385[10:02:32] <S3> so in reality you can
just keep the vpi / vci state
L386[10:02:45] <MGR> Skye,
a GERTe address (which identifies a network) is in the format of
AAA-BBBB numbers
<MGR> Skye,
a GERTe address (which identifies a network) is in the format of
AAA-BBBB numbersL387[10:02:54] <S3> Skye: there are two
standards
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L389[10:03:02] <MGR> a
GERTi address (which identifies a computer inside the network) is
in the format of CCC numbers
<MGR> a
GERTi address (which identifies a computer inside the network) is
in the format of CCC numbersL390[10:03:10] <S3> GERT uses a telephone
numbering like system
L391[10:03:24] <S3> NNR uses a UUID based
ipv6 luike addressing system that is very easy to decode by human
eyes
L392[10:03:25] <MGR> which
is easy
<MGR> which
is easyL393[10:03:38] <MGR>
somewhat less easy
<MGR>
somewhat less easyL394[10:04:30] <S3> an NNR address looks
like this: 9001:0000:abcdef01::deadbeefbabe
L395[10:04:32] <Michiyo> I want 867-5309,
I'll never have a use for it, but I want. :P
L396[10:04:41] <S3> and obviously can lok
simpler depending on your network like so:
L397[10:04:51] <MGR>
Michiyo, open an issue at: https://github.com/GlobalEmpire/GERT/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=
<MGR>
Michiyo, open an issue at: https://github.com/GlobalEmpire/GERT/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=L398[10:04:55] <MGR> I'll
make it happen
<MGR> I'll
make it happenL399[10:04:55] <S3> 9001:0000:3f::1
L400[10:05:02] <S3> ^ that address is
valid in NNR
L401[10:05:21] <Skye> I wonder if I should
make my own protocol for small networks.
L402[10:05:26] <MGR> Skye,
no
<MGR> Skye,
noL403[10:05:26] <S3> it is a global scope
address on network number 3f
L404[10:05:47] <MGR> A.
Because GERTi works really well with small networks
<MGR> A.
Because GERTi works really well with small networksL405[10:05:55] <MGR> B.
Because tons of "standards" makes things worse
<MGR> B.
Because tons of "standards" makes things worseL406[10:06:00] <MGR> %xkcd
standards
<MGR> %xkcd
standardsL407[10:06:03] <MichiBot> MGR: https://xkcd.com/927/ - *xkcd: Standards*: "...
lots of other stuff! Standards. | · >|. Standards ... Image URL
(for hotlinking/embedding): http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/standards.
png."
L408[10:06:04] <S3> Skye: I built OCR
without a routing specification, so that you can implement IP on it
or whatever you wanted
L409[10:06:23] <S3> so if you feel the
need to implement a routing protocol for OCR, nobody will stop you
:)
L410[10:06:36] <Michiyo> Damn you Tommy
Tutone!
L411[10:06:47] <S3> if you do it right,
you can support OCR so that GERT ./ NNR networks can connect to
your networks, Skye
L412[10:07:06] <S3> my hope is that OCR
will allow networks of many shapes sizes and types to interconnect
agreeably
L413[10:08:26] <MGR>
Michiyo, request approved
<MGR>
Michiyo, request approvedL414[10:08:30] <MGR> thank
you for making it
<MGR> thank
you for making itL415[10:09:49] <S3> Skye: what's your
idea?
L416[10:10:38] <S3> I'm working on
thinking up an "alien routing" spec so that people can
interconnect with OCR trunks
L417[10:10:43] <S3> in a standard
way
L418[10:10:53] <Skye> S3, basically a nice
interface that takes advantage of Lua and OC
L419[10:11:13] <S3> packet switched?
L420[10:12:50] <S3> Skye: also.. static
circuit switched networks are allowed with OCR
L421[10:12:56] <S3> so you can create
permanent vpi / vci pairs
L422[10:13:03] <S3> that's how ADSL pretty
much works
L423[10:13:19] <S3> if you wanted to
connect two networks that way
L424[10:14:05] <Skye> S3, probably packet
switched with some state for streams.
L425[10:14:15] <MGR>
Michiyo, added to https://github.com/GlobalEmpire/GERT/blob/master/Reserved%20GERTe%20numbers.txt
<MGR>
Michiyo, added to https://github.com/GlobalEmpire/GERT/blob/master/Reserved%20GERTe%20numbers.txtL426[10:14:16] <S3> heh
L427[10:14:20] <MGR>
\o/
<MGR>
\o/L428[10:14:35] <S3> Skye: what would your
addresses look like?
L429[10:14:53] <S3> wait what
L430[10:14:58] <S3> somebody's last name
is Mainer?
L431[10:15:15] <MGR>
Idk
<MGR>
IdkL432[10:15:22] <MGR> It's
@Mimiru 's GitHub account name
<MGR> It's
@Mimiru 's GitHub account nameL433[10:15:25] <S3> I'm a Mainer
L434[10:15:31] <S3> but my last name is
not mainer
L435[10:15:40] <MGR> I
thought the term was Mainiac?
<MGR> I
thought the term was Mainiac?L436[10:15:47] <Michiyo> Yes, my last name
is Mainer, it's German
L437[10:16:18] <S3> lol
L438[10:16:22] <S3> mainiac
L439[10:16:31] <S3> sometimes
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L441[10:18:23] <MGR>
everyone should follow the example of Mimiru and reserve numbers
too!
<MGR>
everyone should follow the example of Mimiru and reserve numbers
too!L442[10:18:37]
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L443[10:20:32] <MGR> wait
what
<MGR> wait
whatL444[10:20:40] <MGR> I
think I was high when I set this milestone
<MGR> I
think I was high when I set this milestoneL445[10:20:47] <MGR> I said
GERTi would be ready by Feb 1?!
<MGR> I said
GERTi would be ready by Feb 1?!L446[10:21:03] <MGR> That
was excessively liberal....
<MGR> That
was excessively liberal....L447[10:28:27]
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L448[10:31:15] <S3> oh my gosh wtf
L449[10:31:17] <S3> how the hell
L450[10:31:31] <MGR> you
made infinite streams
<MGR> you
made infinite streamsL451[10:31:40] <MGR> you
turned an OC computer into a stream block
<MGR> you
turned an OC computer into a stream blockL452[10:32:43] <S3> no
L453[10:32:56] <S3> but that's whats gonna
happen
L454[10:33:02] <S3> I was signed up for
this stupid class
L455[10:33:15] <MGR> you
made a stream turn into a river
<MGR> you
made a stream turn into a riverL456[10:33:15] <S3> and I have to read an
entire frigging story book before febuary
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L459[10:34:20] <S3> this is the story of a
lua program, who cried a stream and drowned the whole land..
L460[10:36:50] <Michiyo> damn it...
L461[10:36:55] <Michiyo> and now I have a
song stuck in my head
L462[10:36:57] <Michiyo> THANKS.
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L464[10:37:15] <MGR> what
song?
<MGR> what
song?L465[10:37:34] <Forecaster> I'm blue
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L467[10:38:06] <MGR>
Forecaster, I have the 3rd factory unlocked
<MGR>
Forecaster, I have the 3rd factory unlockedL468[10:38:09] <Michiyo> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absolutely_(Story_of_a_Girl)
L469[10:38:25] <S3> story of a girl by
nine days
L470[10:38:26] <S3> yep
L471[10:38:26] <Michiyo> http://www.metrolyrics.com/story-of-a-girl-lyrics-third-eye-blind.html
L472[10:38:33] <S3> or third eye
blind
L473[10:38:40] <S3> which one was the
original..
L474[10:39:08] <S3> I almost thought third
eye blind covered a much older song too actually
L475[10:39:11] <S3> I'd have to
check
L476[10:39:33] <Michiyo> Nine Days
released it in 2000
L477[10:40:17] <Michiyo> "The song
was covered by the band Four Year Strong for their cover album
Explains It All. Despite various online discussions and rumors, the
song has never publicly been performed by either 3 Doors Down or
Third Eye Blind, which can be seen by reviewing their respective
discographies and concert set lists. The misconception that these
bands were ever involved with this song was spread by a mislabeling
of MP3 files in the early days of peer-to-peer file
L478[10:40:17] <Michiyo> sharing. The
misconception continues to this day, with many lyrics sites and
videos displaying the incorrect artist name."
L479[10:40:19] <Michiyo> lol
L480[10:40:46] <MGR>
lol
<MGR>
lolL481[10:41:02] <S3> Michiyo: I have a song
stuck in my head now
L482[10:41:08] <S3> and I didn't even
listen to it
L483[10:41:28] <S3> I have another song
you can stick in your head
L484[10:41:39] <MGR> Darude
Sandstorm!
<MGR> Darude
Sandstorm!L485[10:41:44] <S3> ...
L486[10:41:45] <S3> no.
L487[10:41:48] <S3> Iris
L488[10:41:53] <S3> itl be stuck in your
head for days
L489[10:41:55] <MGR> but
Sandstorm
<MGR> but
SandstormL490[10:41:58] <Michiyo>
Thaaaaaaanks
L491[10:41:59] <S3> IRIS!
L492[10:44:19] <S3> I knew it!
L493[10:44:25] <S3> Michiyo: how did I
know you loved that song?
L494[10:44:42] <S3> .. everybody
did!
L495[10:44:55] <S3> cept I was listening
to other types of music at that age
L496[10:45:21] <S3> in 2000, hmm, I was
like, 12 so I was listening to metallica a lot then..
L497[10:45:27] <S3> yep
L498[10:46:11] <S3> but I don't hate the
whole 90s grunge movement and such
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L500[10:52:09] <S3> @MajGenRelativity:
Hopefully, this is all we need!: http://pb.i0i0.me/p/tisTen1b
L501[10:52:33] <MGR>
runtime error?
<MGR>
runtime error?L502[10:52:39] <MGR> oh
there we go
<MGR> oh
there we goL503[10:52:58] <MGR> that
is a thing
<MGR> that
is a thingL504[10:53:06] <S3> ?
L505[10:53:24] <MGR> it
does something
<MGR> it
does somethingL506[10:53:25] <S3> oh yeah vifino's
bug
L507[10:53:32] <MGR> the
code does
<MGR> the
code doesL508[10:53:41] <S3> right so
L509[10:53:49] <S3> all streams have a
coroutine
L510[10:53:52] <LuMistry> you crashed one
of my nodes :(
L511[10:54:16] <S3> this allows streams to
be like sockets too
L512[10:54:21] <S3> or seperated via
them
L513[10:54:30] <S3> allowing you to make
say GERT streams
L514[10:54:38] <S3> also they are high
priority
L515[10:55:31] <MGR>
ok
<MGR>
okL516[10:55:40] <S3> all streams waiting to
be handled are handled BEFORE the next process is resumed
L517[10:55:51] <S3> so that two processes
can easily communicate quickly
L518[10:55:54] <S3> and react
accoridngly
L519[10:56:51] <MGR>
ok
<MGR>
okL520[10:57:30] <S3> also whyd I do
!=
L521[10:57:32] <S3> lo
L522[10:57:33] <S3> lol*
L523[10:57:45] <MGR>
ok
<MGR>
okL524[10:58:21] <S3> oh shit
L525[10:58:23] <S3> I just realzied
L526[10:58:29] <S3> there's no way to
start a process.
L527[10:58:34] <S3> I need to make a
process that starts processes.
L528[10:58:44] <MGR>
ok
<MGR>
okL529[10:59:21] <S3> I think I can do this
by spawning that service, creating a stream, registering the core
to that stream and setting callbacks for process handling.
L530[10:59:25] <S3> :)
L531[10:59:34] <MGR>
okay
<MGR>
okayL532[10:59:42] <S3> so the core itself
just listens to a stream
L533[10:59:48] <MGR>
k
<MGR>
kL534[11:00:01] <S3> k
L535[11:00:08] <MGR>
okape
<MGR>
okapeL536[11:00:11] <S3> okape
L537[11:03:51] <MGR>
yes
<MGR>
yesL538[11:05:46]
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L539[11:05:51] <S3> ooh drivers will be so
much fun!
L540[11:05:59] <S3> they will basically
just have no main loops
L541[11:06:05] <MGR>
ok
<MGR>
okL542[11:06:42] <S3> a driver is a service
in S3IX, and a service is a chunk of code that only communicates
via streams and has no main loop
L543[11:06:51] <S3> it is 100%
reactive
L544[11:07:43] <S3> by the way
L545[11:07:52] <MGR>
ok
<MGR>
okL546[11:08:22] <S3> are timers built into
oc or part of openos?
L547[11:08:33] <S3> trying to think about
how I can make some sort of a timer stream
L548[11:08:49] <MGR>
event.timer is part of openos
<MGR>
event.timer is part of openosL549[11:08:55] <S3> ok
L550[11:09:08] <S3> I wonder if it is just
a coroutine that looks out fo the run time ?
L551[11:09:12] <S3> past some value
L552[11:09:18] <S3> I could look
later
L553[11:09:52] <MGR>
https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/blob/master-MC1.7.10/src/main/resources/assets/opencomputers/loot/openos/lib/event.lua
<MGR>
https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/blob/master-MC1.7.10/src/main/resources/assets/opencomputers/loot/openos/lib/event.luaL554[11:12:23] <MGR> S3, it
would be in there
<MGR> S3, it
would be in thereL555[11:13:43] <S3> handler.timeout =
computer.uptime() + handler.interval
L556[11:13:45] <S3> yep.
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L559[11:18:42] <Kodos> OH
MY GLOB I AM SO EXCITED FOR THE POWER RANGERS MOVIE
<Kodos> OH
MY GLOB I AM SO EXCITED FOR THE POWER RANGERS MOVIEL560[11:21:30] <MGR>
whoo
<MGR>
whooL561[11:28:20] <payonel> mgr: i'm of the
opinion that ocr go to an oppm package
L562[11:29:26] <payonel> but if you have
any issues needing to make any core changes, i'm happy to review
that
L563[11:38:51] <MGR>
payonel, but OCR+GERT provides a key feature that every user of
OpenOS can benefit from with minimal effort
<MGR>
payonel, but OCR+GERT provides a key feature that every user of
OpenOS can benefit from with minimal effortL564[11:39:05] <MGR> GERT
would basically let them treat the internet like a modem card
<MGR> GERT
would basically let them treat the internet like a modem cardL565[11:43:18]
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L566[11:45:21] *
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bit before running off again
L567[11:49:30] <MGR>
payonel, I don't think that GERTe/i gateways should be included in
OC by default
<MGR>
payonel, I don't think that GERTe/i gateways should be included in
OC by defaultL568[11:49:35] <MGR> that
would create confusion and problems
<MGR> that
would create confusion and problemsL569[11:49:52] <MGR>
however, the GERTi client is quite useful, and I think you will
agree once you see the finished code
<MGR>
however, the GERTi client is quite useful, and I think you will
agree once you see the finished codeL570[11:54:27] ⇦
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L571[11:55:33] <payonel> it's not about
code quality (though that matters)
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L573[11:56:15] <MGR> I was
talking more about seeing its power
<MGR> I was
talking more about seeing its powerL574[11:56:17] <MGR> and
utility
<MGR> and
utilityL575[11:56:26] <MGR> which
aren't fully implemented yet
<MGR> which
aren't fully implemented yetL576[11:56:43]
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L577[11:58:07] <MGR>
payonel, I'll also be making a heavily annotated and commented
version available for people to understand how it works
<MGR>
payonel, I'll also be making a heavily annotated and commented
version available for people to understand how it worksL578[12:22:13] <Inari> MyApplication
L579[12:22:15] <Inari> MyListener
L580[12:22:17] <Inari> Ah, those class
anmes
L581[12:22:18] <Inari> ¬_¬
L582[12:22:44] <MGR> Inari,
where are those class names at?
<MGR> Inari,
where are those class names at?L583[12:23:00] <Inari> Lovense's Wearables
app
L584[12:24:08] <MGR>
heh
<MGR>
hehL585[12:42:19] ⇦
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L588[13:00:31] <LuMistry> Goodbye
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L593[13:15:09] <S3> back
L594[13:15:25] <S3> so I need to write a
kernel builder
L595[13:16:36] <MGR> S3,
just have a stream do it ?
<MGR> S3,
just have a stream do it ?L596[13:16:44] <S3> no no
L597[13:16:50] <S3> this is for creating a
kernel image
L598[13:16:55] <MGR>
streams
<MGR>
streamsL599[13:17:12] <S3> you see, in order for
my kernel to load modules needed for mounting filesystems,
etc
L600[13:17:23] <S3> it needs to pack the
necessary modules in the kernel file itself
L601[13:17:28] <MGR>
streeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
<MGR>
streeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmssssssssssssssssssssssssssssL602[13:17:29] <S3> into a "built
kernel"
L603[13:17:37] <CompanionCube> Izaya:
didn't you make a module-build-thingy
L604[13:17:40] <S3> which consists of the
core and any services required
L605[13:17:49] <S3> Izaya: I HOPE SO
L606[13:17:59] <MGR> I
thought your OS was entirely built off of a stream
<MGR> I
thought your OS was entirely built off of a streamL607[13:18:05] <S3> OMG THIS BUFFALO MAC
AND CHEESE IS DELICIOUS
L608[13:18:09] <S3> it is
L609[13:18:14] <S3> but this is outside of
the os
L610[13:18:27] <MGR>
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
<MGR>
¯\_(ツ)_/¯L611[13:18:36] <MGR> where
did you get the buffalo mac and cheese?
<MGR> where
did you get the buffalo mac and cheese?L612[13:18:43] <S3> in the cafeteria
L613[13:18:47] <S3> it was 6 bucks
L614[13:18:50] <S3> for a giant
basket
L615[13:18:57] <MGR>
nice
<MGR>
niceL616[13:19:02] <S3> omg and it has stuffed
breadsticks in it!
L617[13:19:20] <S3> I wish I could send a
picture but I do not have a phone
L618[13:19:27] <Michiyo> So... TIL
L619[13:19:51] <MGR> tumor
infiltrating lymphocyte?
<MGR> tumor
infiltrating lymphocyte?L620[13:19:56] <S3> ?
L621[13:19:57] <Michiyo> This lady comes
in and said she tried repeatedly to get into the store last
friday....
L622[13:20:02] <S3> lol
L623[13:20:07] <S3> the door was
locked?
L624[13:20:07] <Michiyo> It seems I wasn't
ACTUALLY at work last Friday
L625[13:20:09] <Michiyo> *at all*
L626[13:20:18] <Michiyo> No... door was
unlocked, she never fucking came.
L627[13:20:24] <S3> Michiyo: didn't you
tell this story?
L628[13:20:29] <MGR> I was
trying to expand TIL
<MGR> I was
trying to expand TILL629[13:20:32] <S3> like a week ago
L630[13:20:34] <Michiyo> It happened
AFUCKINGGAIN..
L631[13:20:35] <MGR> Idk
what it abbreviates
<MGR> Idk
what it abbreviatesL632[13:20:37] <Ady
(WriteEscape)> is there a way for opencomputers to take the
blockdata of a block infront of the computer and read it as a 3d
printable object?
<Ady
(WriteEscape)> is there a way for opencomputers to take the
blockdata of a block infront of the computer and read it as a 3d
printable object?L633[13:20:45] <S3> MGR: Today I
Learned
L634[13:20:46] <Michiyo> Today I
Learned
L635[13:20:49] <MGR>
ah
<MGR>
ahL636[13:20:58] <MGR> not
Transparent Intensional Logic?
<MGR> not
Transparent Intensional Logic?L637[13:21:05] <Michiyo> I fucking
swear...
L638[13:21:18] <Michiyo> fucking people, I
work here EVERY GOD DAMN DAY, EXCEPT Saturday/Sunday
L639[13:21:29] <S3> Michiyo: so thius is
the same person as before?
L640[13:21:31] <Michiyo> I'm gone from 12
to 1 for lunch, and theres a BIG FUCKING SIGN that says as
much.
L641[13:21:32] <Michiyo> No
L642[13:21:34] <S3> oh
L643[13:21:35] <S3> wow
L644[13:21:46] <S3> what kinda store is
this again?
L645[13:21:50] <S3> just a pc repair
shop?
L646[13:21:52] <MGR>
Radioshack
<MGR>
RadioshackL647[13:21:57] <Michiyo> FUcking inbred
hicks need to fucking learn to read.
L648[13:22:00] <Michiyo> ^
RadioShack
L649[13:22:06] <S3> oh haha
L650[13:22:09] <Ady
(WriteEscape)> lol
<Ady
(WriteEscape)> lolL651[13:22:14] <payonel> Michiyo: door
unlocked when you're out for lunch?
L652[13:22:16] <MGR>
Mimiru, I'm still kinda surprised those are still around ?
<MGR>
Mimiru, I'm still kinda surprised those are still around ?L653[13:22:16] <S3> Michiyo: do you own
that store?
L654[13:22:30] <Michiyo> payonel, no, I'm
the only one here
L655[13:22:35] <Michiyo> S3, no
L656[13:22:38] <S3> ah
L657[13:22:47] <payonel> "door was
unlocked" is what confused me
L658[13:22:50] <S3> I know some people
actually decided to buy the radio shack stores and keep em
running
L659[13:23:01] <Michiyo> Oh.. I meant I
know the door is unlocked when I'm here
L660[13:23:24] <Michiyo> S3 General
Wireless bought the name, the stores are all Franchise so
independently owned stores
L661[13:23:25] <MGR> Times
Internet Limited
<MGR> Times
Internet LimitedL662[13:23:35] <S3> yeah
L663[13:23:42] <S3> Michiyo: welcome to
the joys of home ownership
L664[13:23:54] <Michiyo> And the door is
*RIGHT* in front of me... if someone was at the door, trying to
open it... I'd know
L665[13:23:56] <S3> we bought a house,
fiance took a bath, pulled the drain out of the tub in all by
accident
L666[13:23:57] <Michiyo> cause I'd see
'em
L667[13:24:08] <S3> and somebody told me,
"welcome to the joys of home ownership"
L668[13:24:21] <MGR>
Mimiru, I don't know why you're never at work ?
<MGR>
Mimiru, I don't know why you're never at work ?L669[13:24:34] *
Michiyo glares at MGR
L670[13:24:40] <MGR> there
was a :/p
<MGR> there
was a :/pL671[13:24:42] <MGR> I was
joking
<MGR> I was
jokingL672[13:24:59] <MGR> at
least it isn't super hot out on truck days!
<MGR> at
least it isn't super hot out on truck days!L673[13:25:13] <Kodos>
Anyone have any digital movie codes that came with their DVDs or
Blurays?
<Kodos>
Anyone have any digital movie codes that came with their DVDs or
Blurays?L674[13:25:17] <Kodos> The
ones from Ultraviolet
<Kodos> The
ones from UltravioletL675[13:25:28] <S3> why
L676[13:25:28] <MGR> Not I,
don't own many DVDs ?
<MGR> Not I,
don't own many DVDs ?L677[13:25:39] <S3> kodos my dvd player is
too old to have one.
L678[13:25:41] <Kodos>
Because I redeem them through a Flixster account, and watch
them
<Kodos>
Because I redeem them through a Flixster account, and watch
themL679[13:25:51] <Kodos> No,
they'd be on a slip of paper inside the DVD/BR case
<Kodos> No,
they'd be on a slip of paper inside the DVD/BR caseL680[13:26:03] <Kodos>
Usually come with Blurays or extended DVDs
<Kodos>
Usually come with Blurays or extended DVDsL681[13:26:41] <S3> seriously, my dvd
player will not play any dvds that are encrypted, etc. my DVD
player is very very old, from the 90s
L682[13:27:05] <Kodos> The
code is in addition to the movie, it doesn't 'unlock' the
disc
<Kodos> The
code is in addition to the movie, it doesn't 'unlock' the
discL683[13:27:05] <MGR>
Mimiru, Truth In Lending Act?
<MGR>
Mimiru, Truth In Lending Act?L684[13:27:17] <S3> heh
L685[13:27:18] *
Michiyo bans MGR
L686[13:27:27] <MGR> not
again!
<MGR> not
again!L687[13:28:03] <S3> CRAP
L688[13:28:07] <S3> How do I ...
L689[13:28:22] <S3> how do I fire up the
VFS service without ... without... a VFS
L690[13:28:41] <Michiyo> lots of
fire.
L691[13:28:47] <S3> seriously thoug
L692[13:28:58] <MGR> even
more fire?
<MGR> even
more fire?L693[13:28:58] <S3> I can't access from
ramdisk without a vfs
L694[13:29:02] <MGR> hot
air
<MGR> hot
airL695[13:29:05] <S3> so I guess I will have
to make .. hmm
L696[13:29:10] <MGR> a
VFS
<MGR> a
VFSL697[13:29:23] <S3> a VFS to load the
VFS?
L698[13:29:50] <S3> not necessary
L699[13:30:10] <S3> I have a few
options
L700[13:30:15] <S3> I can build the VFS
right into the core
L701[13:30:40] <MGR> do
it
<MGR> do
itL702[13:30:43] <MGR>
wait
<MGR>
waitL703[13:30:46] <S3> or, I can make the VFS
a required module to be built in, and then create a function to
specifically load it
L704[13:30:47] <MGR> make
the VFS a stream
<MGR> make
the VFS a streamL705[13:30:56] <S3> it is a stream..
L706[13:31:04] <MGR> then
stream it
<MGR> then
stream itL707[13:31:13] <S3> yes
L708[13:31:17] <S3> but the VFS is in
another file
L709[13:31:24] <S3> the VFS is a service,
it isn't in the core
L710[13:31:29] <S3> it needs to load it
somehow
L711[13:31:39] <MGR> stream
it
<MGR> stream
itL712[13:31:55] <MGR> call
the stream
<MGR> call
the streamL713[13:31:57] <MGR> read
the stream
<MGR> read
the streamL714[13:32:00] <MGR> surf
the stream
<MGR> surf
the streamL715[13:32:03] <S3> can't do that
L716[13:32:06] <CompanionCube> S3: can you
make a mini-VFS to load the VFS
L717[13:32:12] <MGR> WHY
CAN YOU NOT SURF THE STREAM?!
<MGR> WHY
CAN YOU NOT SURF THE STREAM?!L718[13:32:43] <S3> CompanionCube: so the
kernel will be in a giant image
L719[13:32:50] <S3> and it expects to have
some standard symboles
L720[13:32:52] <S3> symbols
L721[13:33:01] <S3> I've got it!
L722[13:33:21] <S3> I can add them to the
BUILTIN_SERVICES table
L723[13:33:26] <MGR> a
stream inside a stream?
<MGR> a
stream inside a stream?L724[13:33:33] <S3> and then the core can
just look in that for the vfs
L725[13:34:11] <MGR>
yeah!
<MGR>
yeah!L726[13:34:14] <MGR> and
then streams
<MGR> and
then streamsL727[13:34:19] <MGR> is the
core a stream?
<MGR> is the
core a stream?L728[13:34:25] <MGR>
because I will be disappointed if it is not
<MGR>
because I will be disappointed if it is notL729[13:34:28] <S3> the core is not yet
but it can be
L730[13:34:34] <MGR> MAKE
IT SO
<MGR> MAKE
IT SOL731[13:35:30] <S3> the core talks to the
processes service via a stream
L732[13:35:35] <S3> I mean that's one
thing it really needs
L733[13:35:41] <MGR> make
everything a stream
<MGR> make
everything a streamL734[13:35:58] <MGR>
Mimiru, Tromso IL
<MGR>
Mimiru, Tromso ILL735[13:36:14] <Michiyo> and that's enough
IRC/Discord for the day.
L736[13:36:31] <S3> lol
L737[13:36:57] <MGR> Have a
good night Mimiru
<MGR> Have a
good night MimiruL738[13:37:13] <Kodos>
Michiyo, you want I should kick the shit out of them?
<Kodos>
Michiyo, you want I should kick the shit out of them?L739[13:37:18] <S3> that was Michiyo
L740[13:41:14] <S3> ok
L741[13:41:24] <S3> so load VFS
L742[13:41:33] <S3> and then from there,
we load processes service
L743[13:42:24] <S3> Izaya: so you made an
initrd eh
L744[13:42:26] <S3> builder*
L745[13:44:49] <S3> I could build the vfs
and the process service all into the core.lua file..
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L747[13:45:14] <S3> I think I know how I
will do this.
L748[14:10:43] *
Inari doubleflps a table
L749[14:10:52] <MGR>
/flip
<MGR>
/flipL750[14:10:56] <MGR>
(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
<MGR>
(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻L751[14:11:00] <MGR>
/tableflip (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
<MGR>
/tableflip (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻L752[14:11:05] <MGR>
yeah!
<MGR>
yeah!L753[14:18:31] <Forecaster> table 360
trickshot extreme
L754[14:23:15] <S3> %flip MGR
L755[14:23:15] <MichiBot> S3:
(╯°□°）╯ᴚפW
L756[14:26:55] <MGR> %flip
S3
<MGR> %flip
S3L757[14:26:55] <MichiBot> MGR:
(╯°□°）╯ƐS
L758[14:27:06] <S3> %flop Your father is a
baker, your mother cuts the bread, and you're the little donut with
a hole right through your head.
L759[14:27:12] <S3> %flip Your father is a
baker, your mother cuts the bread, and you're the little donut with
a hole right through your head.
L760[14:27:12] <MichiBot> S3: (╯°□°）╯˙pɐǝɥ
ɹnoʎ ɥɓnoɹɥʇ ʇɥɓıɹ ǝloɥ ɐ ɥʇıʍ ʇnuop ǝlʇʇıl ǝɥʇ ǝɹ,noʎ puɐ 'pɐǝɹq
ǝɥʇ sʇnɔ ɹǝɥʇoɯ ɹnoʎ 'ɹǝʞɐq ɐ sı ɹǝɥʇɐɟ ɹnoλ
L761[14:27:18] <MGR>
...
<MGR>
...L762[14:27:25] <MGR>
Where'd you get that
<MGR>
Where'd you get thatL763[14:27:48] <S3> from a book as a
child
L764[14:27:53] <S3> it was one of my
childrens books
L765[14:27:57] <S3> in(*
L766[14:28:06] <MGR>
Huh
<MGR>
HuhL767[14:28:17] <MGR> I
can't remember most of my early childhood
<MGR> I
can't remember most of my early childhoodL768[14:28:45] <S3> oh there was a bunch
of stuff in it
L769[14:28:53] <S3> sugar is white, coal
is black, do me a favor and sit on a tack
L770[14:29:14] <S3> roses are red, pickles
are green, your face looks like a washing machine!
L771[14:29:17] <S3> :P
L772[14:30:05] <MGR> Time
to go home
<MGR> Time
to go homeL773[14:30:20] <S3> nuuuuuuuu
L774[14:35:48] <TYKUHN2>
%flip S3 you bully!
<TYKUHN2>
%flip S3 you bully!L775[14:35:48] <MichiBot> TYKUHN2:
(╯°□°）╯¡ʎllnq noʎ ƐS
L776[14:36:48] ***
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L777[14:38:14] <TYKUHN2>
%flip MichiBot
<TYKUHN2>
%flip MichiBotL778[14:38:15] <MichiBot> TYKUHN2:
(╯°□°）╯ʇoℇıɥɔıW
L779[14:38:29] <TYKUHN2>
Ultimate tesrt
<TYKUHN2>
Ultimate tesrtL780[14:38:34] <TYKUHN2>
%flip (╯°□°）╯ʇoℇıɥɔıW
<TYKUHN2>
%flip (╯°□°）╯ʇoℇıɥɔıWL781[14:38:34] <MichiBot> TYKUHN2:
(╯°□°）╯MichiBot╯）°□°╯)
L782[14:38:57] <TYKUHN2>
Close enough?
<TYKUHN2>
Close enough?L783[14:40:42] <TYKUHN2>
What's that one industrial mod with raycast wires?
<TYKUHN2>
What's that one industrial mod with raycast wires?L784[14:42:55] <TYKUHN2>
Immmersive Engineering
<TYKUHN2>
Immmersive EngineeringL785[14:45:50] ⇦
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L786[14:47:30] <Forecaster> so apparently
the solution to the youtube api timing out when uploading a video
is "keep uploading"
L787[14:50:56] <TYKUHN2>
Just keep uploading Just keep uploading Just keep uploading Just
keep uploading Just keep uploading
<TYKUHN2>
Just keep uploading Just keep uploading Just keep uploading Just
keep uploading Just keep uploadingL788[14:51:06] <TYKUHN2>
Uploading uploading uploading
<TYKUHN2>
Uploading uploading uploadingL789[15:05:37] <CompanionCube> S3: they
*might* have
L790[15:05:44] <CompanionCube> unless you
actually found somethin
L791[15:06:03] <TYKUHN2>
Here's the true trial: Can drone-banking be properly implemented in
a hostile environment?
<TYKUHN2>
Here's the true trial: Can drone-banking be properly implemented in
a hostile environment?L792[15:06:20] <TYKUHN2>
Hypothesis: This environment isn't hostile enough for a proper
experiment
<TYKUHN2>
Hypothesis: This environment isn't hostile enough for a proper
experimentL793[15:09:39] <TYKUHN2>
Need more musket wielding drone-hunters
<TYKUHN2>
Need more musket wielding drone-huntersL794[15:12:58] <TYKUHN2>
Odd
<TYKUHN2>
OddL795[15:14:14] <TYKUHN2>
Minechem breaking Them Banks Man
<TYKUHN2>
Minechem breaking Them Banks ManL796[15:18:35] <MGR>
alright, time to work on GERTi some more
<MGR>
alright, time to work on GERTi some moreL797[15:25:23] ⇦
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L798[15:26:23] <TYKUHN2>
I'm upset that FTB Packs without OC exist.
<TYKUHN2>
I'm upset that FTB Packs without OC exist.L799[15:26:31] <TYKUHN2>
Especially since some include CC
<TYKUHN2>
Especially since some include CCL800[15:27:53] <MGR>
CheatyComputers?
<MGR>
CheatyComputers?L801[15:28:34] *
Vexatos proudly presents https://github.com/Vexatos/CheatyComputers
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L803[15:29:03] <Vexatos> (Thanks
Cruor)
L804[15:29:14] <Cruor> Vexatos: np
fam
L805[15:30:19] <Forecaster> what's wrong
with the oc_sc command?
L806[15:31:23] <MGR>
Vexatos, do you get pinged by CheatyComputers?
<MGR>
Vexatos, do you get pinged by CheatyComputers?L807[15:31:31] ⇦
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L808[15:31:37] <Vexatos> I do not
L809[15:31:48] <Vexatos> Forecaster, this
is for survival mode :⁾
L810[15:32:00] <Vexatos> Cruor even
provided the glorious hand-drawn texture
L811[15:32:07] <Forecaster> it's not
survival mode if you are cheating
L812[15:32:09] <Vexatos> This was before
OC became cheap
L813[15:32:16] <Cruor> yea
L814[15:32:19] <Cruor> that mod is useless
now
L815[15:32:21] <Vexatos> Cruor kept
complaining about how expensive OC was
L816[15:32:22] <Cruor> its more
expensive
L817[15:32:25] <Vexatos> so I made this
mod for him
L818[15:32:39] <Vexatos> Now Cruor keeps
complaining about how cheap OC is
L819[15:32:41] <Vexatos> And I agree
L820[15:32:52] <Cruor> so cheap :I
L821[15:32:53] <Forecaster> you can adjust
the recipes...
L822[15:32:54] <Cruor> besides gold
clocks
L823[15:33:05] <Cruor> these damned gold
clocks ;_;
L824[15:33:11] <XDjackieXD> xD
L825[15:33:24] <Forecaster> you could
before it became cheaper too
L826[15:34:04] <Cruor> yea, i had cheaper
ones
L827[15:34:18] <Cruor> ... but wtf these
were expensive compared to this :I
L828[15:37:19] <Forecaster> then why were
you complaining before...
L829[15:37:21] <Forecaster> I don't get
it
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L831[15:40:42] <TYKUHN2>
Cheaty computers! \o/
<TYKUHN2>
Cheaty computers! \o/L832[15:40:47] <Kodos>
wat
<Kodos>
watL833[15:41:19] <MGR> @Kodos
there's an add-on for OpenComputers called CheatyComputers
<MGR> @Kodos
there's an add-on for OpenComputers called CheatyComputersL834[15:41:22] <MGR> 4it is
bad
<MGR> 4it is
badL835[15:41:33] <Cruor> wtf
L836[15:41:41] <Cruor> i put my heart and
soul into that texture
L837[15:42:04] <TYKUHN2>
Suuuurrrreee you diiiiidddd
<TYKUHN2>
Suuuurrrreee you diiiiiddddL838[15:45:21] <Cruor> Forecaster: because
when you play on a server you cant just
L839[15:45:28] <Cruor> "yo dude, 2
expense 9 me, fix pls"
L840[15:45:50] <TYKUHN2>
UGGGH
<TYKUHN2>
UGGGHL841[15:45:58] <TYKUHN2>
FTBLib and FTBUtil broke
<TYKUHN2>
FTBLib and FTBUtil brokeL842[15:49:14]
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L843[15:51:57] <TYKUHN2>
Bloody ULAAAAAAAEE
<TYKUHN2>
Bloody ULAAAAAAAEEL844[15:53:23] ⇦
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L845[15:55:43] <S3> hi
L846[15:56:24] <S3> Izaya: soooo
L847[16:04:05] <MGR>
...
<MGR>
...L848[16:04:14] <MGR>
somehow my computers are relaying requests they shouldn't be
<MGR>
somehow my computers are relaying requests they shouldn't beL849[16:07:33] <MGR> this
makes no goddamn sense
<MGR> this
makes no goddamn senseL850[16:08:12] ***
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L852[16:08:37] <MGR> that's
my setup
<MGR> that's
my setupL853[16:09:04] <MGR>
https://gist.github.com/MajorGeneralRelativity/2e40eb1cfbf9e5dfbf97b3c607b64dd0
<MGR>
https://gist.github.com/MajorGeneralRelativity/2e40eb1cfbf9e5dfbf97b3c607b64dd0L854[16:09:13] <MGR> that's
the code running on the two machines on the right
<MGR> that's
the code running on the two machines on the rightL855[16:09:26] <MGR> the
machine on the left is running separate GERTiGateway software
<MGR> the
machine on the left is running separate GERTiGateway softwareL856[16:10:15] <MGR> I run
the Gateway software all the way on the left, then I run the client
software on the machine in the middle, then I run the client
software on the client machine on the right
<MGR> I run
the Gateway software all the way on the left, then I run the client
software on the machine in the middle, then I run the client
software on the client machine on the rightL857[16:10:33] <MGR>
however, when I run the client software on the machine on the
right, the relay all the way on the left also lights up
<MGR>
however, when I run the client software on the machine on the
right, the relay all the way on the left also lights upL858[16:10:37] <MGR> and it
should not
<MGR> and it
should notL859[16:11:33] <MGR> and
then the computer all the way on the right says its only neighbor
is the gateway all the way on the left
<MGR> and
then the computer all the way on the right says its only neighbor
is the gateway all the way on the leftL860[16:11:48] <MGR>
however, it SHOULD say its only neighbor is the middle
computer
<MGR>
however, it SHOULD say its only neighbor is the middle
computerL861[16:12:26] <MGR> the
computer on the middle is getting the startup message (should
happen) but so is the gateway on the left (should NOT happen)
<MGR> the
computer on the middle is getting the startup message (should
happen) but so is the gateway on the left (should NOT happen)L862[16:13:45] <TYKUHN2>
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
<TYKUHN2>
Have you tried turning it off and on again?L863[16:13:52] <MGR>
yes
<MGR>
yesL864[16:15:27] <MGR> it
makes no sense
<MGR> it
makes no senseL865[16:15:45] <TYKUHN2>
Does anything make sense?
<TYKUHN2>
Does anything make sense?L866[16:15:51] <MGR>
there's no way the middle computer should be talking to the one on
the left, and I can't see how the modem message gets passed
through
<MGR>
there's no way the middle computer should be talking to the one on
the left, and I can't see how the modem message gets passed
throughL867[16:16:08] <MGR> unless
network messages fly through computers like freaking magic
<MGR> unless
network messages fly through computers like freaking magicL868[16:16:44] <MGR> DO
modem messages fly through computers?
<MGR> DO
modem messages fly through computers?L869[16:17:28] <MGR> they
do
<MGR> they
doL870[16:17:37] <MGR>
okay
<MGR>
okayL871[16:20:42] <MGR> still
doesn't help with the fact that the computer can't see its direct
neighbor...
<MGR> still
doesn't help with the fact that the computer can't see its direct
neighbor...L872[16:21:26] <MGR>
wait
<MGR>
waitL873[16:21:35] <MGR> it
only sees one computer...
<MGR> it
only sees one computer...L874[16:25:09] <MGR> oh, I
think I may have found an issue...
<MGR> oh, I
think I may have found an issue...L875[16:25:31] <Izaya> S3: soooo
L876[16:25:36] <S3> oh hi Izaya
L877[16:25:45] <S3> MGR said you wrote an
all powerful initrd builder or something
L878[16:25:50] <S3> or file collection
builder
L879[16:25:52] <S3> for lua
L880[16:25:55] <MGR> I
did?
<MGR> I
did?L881[16:25:59] <S3> yeah!
L882[16:26:02] <MGR> I
think that was someone else
<MGR> I
think that was someone elseL883[16:26:04] ***
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L884[16:26:11] <Izaya> uh
L885[16:26:24] <Izaya> I don't remember
doing so?
L886[16:26:56] <Izaya> I wrote the build
system for MultICE
L887[16:27:25] <MGR>
<CompanionCube> Izaya: didn't you make a
module-build-thingy
<MGR>
<CompanionCube> Izaya: didn't you make a
module-build-thingyL888[16:27:30] <MGR> S3,
there you go, wasn'tme
<MGR> S3,
there you go, wasn'tmeL889[16:29:28] <MGR> ohh, I
found an error
<MGR> ohh, I
found an errorL890[16:29:32] <MGR> a
sneaky one
<MGR> a
sneaky oneL891[16:33:08] ⇦
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L892[16:33:27] <TYKUHN2>
What special feautres does a drone have?
<TYKUHN2>
What special feautres does a drone have?L893[16:34:06] <MGR> it can
fly
<MGR> it can
flyL894[16:34:54] <TYKUHN2>
Can it go zappy zapp?
<TYKUHN2>
Can it go zappy zapp?L895[16:35:09] <TYKUHN2> Or
is that just Pneumatic Craft?
<TYKUHN2> Or
is that just Pneumatic Craft?L896[16:37:42] <MGR>
@TYKUHN2 it cannot
<MGR>
@TYKUHN2 it cannotL897[16:37:59] <MGR> also,
now my error didn't go away when I fixed it
<MGR> also,
now my error didn't go away when I fixed itL898[16:38:00] <TYKUHN2>
Anyone know per chance of the Pneumaticcraft drone has it's CC
interface available if OC is installed?
<TYKUHN2>
Anyone know per chance of the Pneumaticcraft drone has it's CC
interface available if OC is installed?L899[16:38:59] <Corded> * MGR leans
forward
L900[16:39:03] <MGR> it's a
table?!
<MGR> it's a
table?!L901[16:39:04] <MGR>
why
<MGR>
whyL902[16:40:05] <TYKUHN2>
%flip it's a table?!
<TYKUHN2>
%flip it's a table?!L903[16:40:05] <MichiBot> TYKUHN2:
(╯°□°）╯¡¿ǝlqɐʇ ɐ s,ʇı
L904[16:40:05] ⇦
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precision! Hailed with cardiality, Honored in song, Eternal
Neutrality Pulls us along!')
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L906[16:48:19] <MGR> I
think I fixed the error...
<MGR> I
think I fixed the error...L907[16:50:28] ⇦
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L908[16:50:44] <MGR> I
fixed the error, but not th eproblem
<MGR> I
fixed the error, but not th eproblemL909[16:50:45] <MGR> afk
dinner
<MGR> afk
dinnerL910[16:52:01] ***
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L912[16:56:32] <S3> back
L913[16:56:34] <S3> my battery died
L914[16:56:39] <S3> and the chargr
broke
L915[16:56:46] <S3> so got next
laptop
L916[16:56:51] <S3> downside is that I
gotta rewrite the os
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L919[17:02:27] <MGR> with
more streams?
<MGR> with
more streams?L920[17:03:05] ⇦
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L922[17:09:48] <TYKUHN2>
Graphite: Basically charcoal
<TYKUHN2>
Graphite: Basically charcoalL923[17:12:45] <TYKUHN2>
Scientist said "Basically charcoal" later proven that it
takes choco biscuits with choco sauce to ignite it
<TYKUHN2>
Scientist said "Basically charcoal" later proven that it
takes choco biscuits with choco sauce to ignite itL924[17:23:42]
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L927[17:47:30] <S3> gamax92: you broke
it
L928[17:47:35] <S3> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/7TPPiTV6/
L929[17:50:35] <S3> trying to once again
get OCEmu working on FreeBSD
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L934[18:32:10] <Ai> so there is a way to
emulate OC ?
L935[18:32:28] <Ai> is it possible to do
that i na virtual environment inside a IDE ?
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L937[18:44:59] <Izaya> https://github.com/gamax92/OCEmu
L938[18:45:06] <Izaya> also
L939[18:45:11] <Izaya> >IDE
L940[18:45:15] <Izaya> unix is your
IDE
L941[18:48:21] <Temia> If there was a
text-mode OC emulator, it would be possible to run it within a
terminal buffer should your IDE support such.
L942[18:48:24] <Temia> However, there
isn't.
L943[18:48:29] <Temia> So OCEmu will have
to suffice.
L944[18:48:44] <TYKUHN2>
"Unrecoverable stack overflow" what did he do this
time?
<TYKUHN2>
"Unrecoverable stack overflow" what did he do this
time?L945[18:50:26] <TYKUHN2> I
had his stack all pretty as well!
<TYKUHN2> I
had his stack all pretty as well!L946[18:50:31] <TYKUHN2>
[STACK]STUFF
<TYKUHN2>
[STACK]STUFFL947[18:53:57] <Ai> i just hoped to be
able to attach a debugger to the lua scripts or so i guess..
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L949[18:58:25] <TYKUHN2>
Suppose I could whip one up
<TYKUHN2>
Suppose I could whip one upL950[18:58:36] <TYKUHN2>
Give me 5 years
<TYKUHN2>
Give me 5 yearsL951[19:03:13] ⇦
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L952[19:07:32] <MGR> I
could probably do it in 15
<MGR> I
could probably do it in 15L953[19:07:46] <Temia> Years?
L954[19:08:17] <MGR>
yeah
<MGR>
yeahL955[19:12:39] ***
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L956[19:15:41] <MGR> hmmm
the GERTi client doesn't like to respond, but the gateway's
implementation works...
<MGR> hmmm
the GERTi client doesn't like to respond, but the gateway's
implementation works...L957[19:20:55] <TYKUHN2>
Good lord I hate java coding
<TYKUHN2>
Good lord I hate java codingL958[19:23:27]
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L960[19:24:33] <TYKUHN2>
700W 6 year old power supply for a crappy low-end computer. A bit
overspecced maybe
<TYKUHN2>
700W 6 year old power supply for a crappy low-end computer. A bit
overspecced maybeL961[19:24:47] <TYKUHN2>
Factory
<TYKUHN2>
FactoryL962[19:24:52]
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L963[19:26:20] <TYKUHN2>
What's the error you're experiencing MGR?
<TYKUHN2>
What's the error you're experiencing MGR?L964[19:27:55] ⇦
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L965[19:30:36] <MGR>
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
<MGR>
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSL966[19:30:38] <MGR> I
fixed it
<MGR> I
fixed itL967[19:30:56] <MGR> now
I'll just find a microcontroller and test your code
<MGR> now
I'll just find a microcontroller and test your codeL968[19:37:54]
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L970[19:40:33] <TYKUHN2>
Completely slipped my mind that OC's cards are not side
dependant
<TYKUHN2>
Completely slipped my mind that OC's cards are not side
dependantL971[19:40:47] <TYKUHN2>
Honestly would love that change
<TYKUHN2>
Honestly would love that changeL972[19:44:03] <TYKUHN2>
Quick patch that PROBABLY DIDN'T FIX ANYTHING prevents actidental
feedback
<TYKUHN2>
Quick patch that PROBABLY DIDN'T FIX ANYTHING prevents actidental
feedbackL973[19:44:47] <TYKUHN2>
Compeletly slipped my mind they are not sidded
<TYKUHN2>
Compeletly slipped my mind they are not siddedL974[19:45:09] <TYKUHN2>
Did you say that computers pass messages through them?
<TYKUHN2>
Did you say that computers pass messages through them?L975[19:46:01] <TYKUHN2>
53595
<TYKUHN2>
53595L976[19:46:33] <TYKUHN2>
Messages pass through the computer? Technically the router prevents
sending on the receiving modem so it's still... sort of...
useful.
<TYKUHN2>
Messages pass through the computer? Technically the router prevents
sending on the receiving modem so it's still... sort of...
useful.L977[19:48:57] <TYKUHN2>
"That's not the sound a spider makes! The events developing
above me are concerning!"
<TYKUHN2>
"That's not the sound a spider makes! The events developing
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L979[19:55:07] <TYKUHN2>
That's bloody annoying
<TYKUHN2>
That's bloody annoyingL980[20:18:30]
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