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L1[00:15:23] <Kodos> Okay, astroneer looks kind of fun. Wonder if the xbox version has couch coop
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L4[00:36:12] <Izaya> merry winter sale
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L16[01:57:58] <Forecaster> spam spam spammity spaaam
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L28[03:49:51] <Forecaster> http://xkcd.com/1777/
L29[03:49:51] <MichiBot> XKCD Comic Name: Dear Diary Posted on: 12/26/2016
L30[03:50:05] <Vexatos> .-.
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L37[05:52:51] <Saphire> http://glslsandbox.com/e#37306.2 huh
L38[05:56:36] <Forecaster> https://twitter.com/ricegnat/status/813294556246523904
L39[05:56:37] <MichiBot> Mon Dec 26 02:05:07 CST 2016 @ricegnat: https://t.co/8FDA9oQUj8
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L41[06:53:44] <MGR> alright time to bang on some more keys and see if I can get bagel to work right for once
L42[07:02:44] <MGR> Forecaster, I bought every area in the first factory!
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L44[07:02:59] <Forecaster> nice :P
L45[07:03:11] <Forecaster> I've started buying more rooms in the third
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L47[07:06:50] <MGR> Forecaster, well aren't you rich? ?
L48[07:06:55] <MGR> do you have tanks?
L49[07:07:09] <Forecaster> I have the research, but I haven't set up a line yet
L50[07:07:12] <Forecaster> I need more space
L51[07:07:30] <Izaya> http://i.imgur.com/BOJ9rEI.jpg
L52[07:08:49] <Forecaster> woo fallout'
L53[07:08:58] <vifino[m]> Heya Izaya.
L54[07:09:09] * Lizzy snuggles her vifino[m]
L55[07:09:36] <Izaya> hai vifino[m]
L56[07:09:39] <MGR> hi Izaya
L57[07:09:44] <Izaya> oh it's MGR
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L59[07:13:15] <Forecaster> oh
L60[07:13:23] <Forecaster> I got a present for crafting a harddrive...
L61[07:13:27] <Skye> Lizzy, I'm so bad at cities: skylines
L62[07:13:28] <Forecaster> I didn't know that was a thing
L63[07:13:34] <Lizzy> lol
L64[07:13:43] <Lizzy> Skye, you'll get used to it
L65[07:14:04] <Skye> I got the disasters pack
L66[07:14:08] <Skye> and it turns
L67[07:14:13] <Skye> "just about managing"
L68[07:14:17] <Skye> into "complete fail"
L69[07:14:45] <Lizzy> lol, you can turn them down
L70[07:14:55] <Lizzy> https://www.reddit.com/r/CitiesSkylines/comments/3mh40a/the_beginners_guide_to_traffic_updated_and/ might also be helpful
L71[07:15:18] <Skye> Lizzy, I fail so badly it's not traffic that's causing me issues
L72[07:15:54] <Lizzy> well when you get the hang of it you'll be happy that you don't need to worry about traffic
L73[07:22:56] <MGR> oh it's Izaya
L74[07:22:58] <MGR> how are you?
L75[07:29:49] <Skye> this might be a problem... there's no river to push away the sewage
L76[07:29:49] <Izaya> I am functional
L77[07:34:03] <Lizzy> Skye, :/
L78[07:34:51] <Forecaster> "Elf Bowling: The Movie"
L79[07:35:34] <Izaya> Sequel to the blockbuster hit "Dwarf Tossing: The Movie"?
L80[07:35:48] <Forecaster> no, it's actually based on a game
L81[07:45:42] <MGR> Izaya, that is good that you are functional ?
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L85[07:53:14] <Izaya> I was about to say that maybe I should start talking like a synth, then realised that I already do
L86[07:54:56] <Forecaster> [Inquisitive] You do?
L87[07:55:56] <Izaya> More in real life and not on IRC
L88[07:56:23] <Forecaster> talking on irc is very difficult
L89[08:06:18] <MGR> arghhhh
L90[08:06:21] <MGR> I have to redo bagel
L91[08:06:31] <MGR> because my current algorithm is dumb and bad and stupid and doesn't work
L92[08:06:31] * Lizzy eats bagel
L93[08:06:46] <MGR> Lizzy, I'm sure if you ate my current code, it would taste disgusting
L94[08:07:19] <Forecaster> those first two are fine
L95[08:07:27] <Forecaster> the last one is the only real reason to redo it
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L97[08:11:39] <MGR> Forecaster, there's 4 reasons ?
L98[08:11:46] <MGR> 1. dumb
L99[08:11:47] <MGR> 2. bad
L100[08:11:49] <MGR> 3. stupid
L101[08:11:51] <MGR> 4. doesn't work
L102[08:12:17] <Lizzy> note to anyone who may try it, setting up the ubuntu landscape client in the install process doesn't work
L103[08:12:20] <MGR> Or more correctly, works, but does it in a strange and confusing way that is prone to breaking with no easy way to troubleshoot
L104[08:13:21] <Lizzy> no
L105[08:13:37] <Lizzy> it's supposed to either get or ask for the management server url and it doesn't
L106[08:13:47] <Lizzy> so it just sits at thes configuring part for age
L107[08:16:24] <Lizzy> it's better to install the base system then do the setup
L108[08:20:59] <Lizzy> also if you're wondering why i'm messing about with landscape, i'm seeing if it'll be useful for me to manage my servers/vms
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L110[08:35:13] <MGR> Bagel 1.3 is coming along nicely!
L111[08:35:24] <MGR> Now I just need to finish redoing the encryption system
L112[08:35:44] <MGR> I'm also changing it from a block cipher to a stream cipher, I think
L113[08:38:03] * Saphire hmmms
L114[08:39:06] <Saphire> So, there are those "you lose once and forever" games or "reset when closed"... Now, I wonder, if/when sentient AI will be possible... how long will it take for someone to make such game with AI(s)?
L115[08:39:47] <Ai> Stop pinging me :(
L116[08:41:22] <Izaya> MGR, still rolling your own encryption?
L117[08:41:25] * Saphire baps Ai
L118[08:41:48] <Saphire> Don't complain when you used such a common word as a pingable nickname!
L119[08:41:59] <Ai> :P
L120[08:43:46] <MGR> Saphire, according to LuMistry, sentient AI already exists
L121[08:43:53] <MGR> Izaya, yes
L122[08:44:07] <MGR> and I managed to halve the size of my algorithm while making it less deterministic
L123[08:48:08] <Izaya> is it cryptographically secure?
L124[08:48:28] <Izaya> your enemy can make a million guesses a second
L125[08:50:00] <Saphire> MGR: point of my message was the game with an AI
L126[08:50:22] <Saphire> What's Bagel?
L127[08:50:29] <MGR> Saphire, my crypto system
L128[08:50:46] <Izaya> Can I see it?
L129[08:50:48] <MGR> Izaya, Bagel 1.3 is not secure against a serious attack
L130[08:51:00] <MGR> and you can see it when it is done
L131[08:51:03] <Izaya> So why bother?
L132[08:51:15] <MGR> Izaya, because I'm not going to use it for real life stuff
L133[08:51:32] <MGR> I'm going to use it as a basic security layer for my programs
L134[08:51:48] <MGR> and I will enhance it with keys and stuff in 1.4 for a higher level of security
L135[08:54:29] <Forecaster> what was the min memory requirement for oOS?
L136[08:55:41] <MGR> Forecaster, I think it is 1 tier 1.5 if you want to do stuff
L137[08:55:50] <MGR> 1 tier 1 may do a little now though
L138[08:56:02] <MGR> I know payonel was working on reducing the memory requirements
L139[08:56:04] <Antheus> woo $40 of steam wallet cards
L140[08:56:05] <Forecaster> 1 t1 failed to load the shell
L141[08:56:14] <20kdc> Forecaster: Try switching to Lua 5.3?
L142[08:57:00] <20kdc> For some reason, I've had memory issues with 192k systems on 64-bit Lua 5.2. Nothing leak-like (it doesn't eventually fail completely, last I checked), but still.
L143[08:57:04] <Forecaster> I've already disassembled it to I might as well put in more memory
L144[08:59:02] <MGR> Forecaster, just put in 2 3.5 sticks XD
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L151[09:12:14] <Saphire> Too bad all those chatbots are mostly action-reaction system
L152[09:12:23] <Saphire> message-reply*
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L154[09:28:18] <MGR> and now the new version of Bagel is running headlong into the problem the old bagel had
L155[09:28:19] <MGR> hrm
L156[09:28:52] <Forecaster> that's unfortunate
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L158[09:29:53] <MGR> I think I found the problem though
L159[09:30:06] <CompanionCube> so stary's ZNC happens to be down
L160[09:30:13] <MGR> I mean to do == nil, but did ~= nil instead XD
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L162[09:38:20] <Michiyo> %w 72396
L163[09:38:21] <MichiBot> Current weather for Wynne, AR Current Temp: 70.9°F/21.6°C Feels Like: 70.9°F/21.6°C Current Humidity: 75% Wind: From the SSW 11.6 Mph/18.7 Km/h Conditions: Overcast
L164[09:38:23] <Michiyo> Whyyyyyyyy
L165[09:38:30] <Forecaster> cuz nature
L166[09:38:59] <Michiyo> Also, yay active shooting somewhere in town
L167[09:39:10] <Forecaster> D:
L168[09:39:34] <Michiyo> I need to cut down on the channels this scanner... scans
L169[09:39:39] <Michiyo> cause I miss half the convo at times
L170[09:42:37] <Forecaster> what does the channelscanner do?
L171[09:45:55] <Michiyo> It's a police scanner
L172[09:46:09] <Michiyo> but it scans like a shitton of other freqs
L173[09:46:13] <MGR> http://imgur.com/a/xUx2n
L174[09:46:16] <MGR> What the what
L175[09:46:25] <MGR> Bagel, what even are you doing?!
L176[09:46:45] <Michiyo> That's a thing... :P
L177[09:47:11] <Mimiru> %tell Michiyo test
L178[09:47:11] <MichiBot> Mimiru: Michiyo will be notified of this message when next seen.
L179[09:47:17] <Michiyo> Oh look I DID fix it.
L180[09:47:21] <Michiyo> maybe...
L181[09:47:25] * Michiyo kicks MichiBot
L182[09:47:27] <Michiyo> Oh
L183[09:47:31] <Michiyo> right it went to the PM window
L184[09:47:53] * Michiyo unkicks MichiBot
L185[09:47:53] <MGR> @Mimiru it most certainly is a thing
L186[09:47:55] <MGR> but a bad one
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L192[11:24:27] <gamax92> ◀◀
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L197[12:14:06] <Forecaster> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aw1deys67vM
L198[12:14:08] <MichiBot> Honey bees in the Infrared! THEY GLOW!!! | length: 7m 11s | Likes: 439 Dislikes: 5 Views: 3,978 | by Thunderf00t | Published On 26/12/2016
L199[12:14:11] <Forecaster> beeees
L200[12:14:27] <Izaya> jaded bees?
L201[12:16:12] <gamax92> The Bee Movie except it's night time
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L217[13:06:38] <SolraBizna> Too sick to work yesterday, so I have two days' worth of tests to write today.
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L222[13:24:12] <Forecaster> https://github.com/icons8/flat-color-icons/blob/master/LICENSE.md
L223[13:24:17] <Forecaster> never seen this before :P
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L226[13:24:38] <Michiyo> wut
L227[13:25:04] <Forecaster> I guess that means I can't get one of these tatooed on my arm
L228[13:25:06] <Forecaster> https://icons8.github.io/flat-color-icons/
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L230[13:25:25] <Michiyo> well.. damn
L231[13:25:29] <Michiyo> there goes my afternoon :P
L232[13:25:32] <Michiyo> %w 72396
L233[13:25:33] <MichiBot> Current weather for Wynne, AR Current Temp: 73.8°F/23.2°C Feels Like: 73.8°F/23.2°C Current Humidity: 69% Wind: From the SSW 15.9 Mph/25.6 Km/h Conditions: Overcast
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L235[13:25:48] <Michiyo> I saw 83 on the way back from lunch.. lol
L236[13:30:37] <20kdc> Forecaster: actually...
L237[13:30:50] <20kdc> reading this: https://github.com/icons8/flat-color-icons/blob/master/LICENSE.md it says "either MIT or"...
L238[13:31:03] <20kdc> so presumably that means you should just make sure to tattoo that file on your arm, too.
L239[13:31:04] <Forecaster> I know, but that's less funny
L240[13:36:36] <Keanu73> How would you go about converting the string of internet.request() (get request) into a table?
L241[13:37:01] <Forecaster> split()?
L242[13:37:09] <Keanu73> split()
L243[13:37:13] <Keanu73> Uhh....
L244[13:37:31] <Keanu73> where would you get split()?
L245[13:38:40] <Forecaster> eh, you have to use patterns actually it seems
L246[13:39:20] <Keanu73> ehh i'll use the split function from the snippet on the internet api page
L247[13:39:31] <Forecaster> that works
L248[13:39:40] <Keanu73> now I just need to learn patterns..
L249[13:42:16] <Michiyo> %xkcd regex
L250[13:42:18] <MichiBot> Michiyo: https://xkcd.com/208/ - *xkcd: Regular Expressions*: "Regular Expressions. | · >|. Permanent link to this comic: http://xkcd.com/208/ Image URL (for hotlinking/embedding): ..."
L251[13:42:20] <Michiyo> while not regex, it's close enough :p
L252[13:43:45] <Forecaster> I used regex to fix those font tags in the log viewer page with a single keypress :D
L253[13:44:03] <Forecaster> (ignoring the keypresses used to write the expression, ssh)
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L273[15:28:45] <Forecaster> great, make build of application, start recording video about new version, discover that everthing is broken 10 minute sin
L274[15:35:42] <Lizzy> lol
L275[15:41:54] <Skye> Lizzy, I did a bad roundabout and it nearly killed the entire city
L276[15:49:13] <MGR> I'm back
L277[15:49:18] <MGR> and I'm once again working on bagel
L278[15:49:27] <MGR> I swear it's going to end up killing me
L279[15:56:21] <Lizzy> Skye, LOL
L280[15:56:47] <Lizzy> also roundabouts are hard in CS due to the nature of the traffic simulation
L281[15:58:47] <S3> wat
L282[15:59:14] <MGR> S3, I'm close to getting bagel to work
L283[15:59:21] <S3> bagel?
L284[15:59:23] <S3> what's that
L285[16:00:01] <MGR> S3, it's a basic encryption algorithm I've developed
L286[16:00:25] <MGR> Gavle and I are hurrying to try to finish it because apparently GERTe is going to need a lot more work than Gavle originally thought
L287[16:00:42] <S3> I don't understand why?
L288[16:01:01] <S3> OCR-NNR sounds complicated but it's VERY easy to make an OCR-NNR router, I can't imagine GERT would be any more difficult?
L289[16:01:20] <MGR> S3, 2 MC servers can't talk directly to each other
L290[16:01:30] <MGR> because neither of then can receive connections, only initiate
L291[16:01:31] <S3> we know this
L292[16:01:42] <S3> I pursuaded sangar to allow UDP
L293[16:01:46] <S3> but he never implemented it
L294[16:02:00] <S3> he was afraid that by using UDP you are opening up security risks but it's not true
L295[16:02:07] *** Gavle|Away is now known as Gavle
L296[16:02:07] <S3> it's no different than TCP when it comes to port configuration
L297[16:02:19] <S3> if UDP is supported then you can connect directly
L298[16:02:24] <S3> until then you need an intermediate server
L299[16:02:27] <Gavle> well, I don't actually technically "know" UDP or TCP
L300[16:02:40] <S3> UDP is connectionless
L301[16:02:44] <Gavle> Which is why I was going to have MGR investigate/learn with me and test stuff
L302[16:03:23] <S3> I have a few test servers lying around.. from older OCranet protocol tests
L303[16:03:33] <S3> I can whip up an intermediate server inPerl so fast
L304[16:03:39] <S3> but I don't know GERT enough
L305[16:03:49] <Gavle> I may call upon you for assistance, but MGR "should" be able to handle it
L306[16:03:49] <Gavle> maybe
L307[16:03:53] <S3> Gavle: where was that documentation?
L308[16:04:11] <Gavle> Between the 2 of us, we have 2 separately networked computers
L309[16:04:47] <Gavle> S3, https://gist.github.com/Gavle/ce05e8621d07e625274ad6a46c446b4f
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L311[16:05:02] <Gavle> Like MGR said, the current efforts are to get Bagel off the ground
L312[16:05:09] <Gavle> then GERT can get our full focus
L313[16:05:34] <S3> so what is bagel
L314[16:05:51] <S3> is bagel your intermediate server switch software?
L315[16:06:06] <Gavle> Bagel is an encryption algorithm
L316[16:06:14] <Stary[m]> mmmmm bagels
L317[16:06:38] * Lizzy eats bagels
L318[16:06:38] <Gavle> version 1.3 (which is currently being beaten into submission) is fairly basic, but v1.4 will support encryption keys and stuff to hopefully make it stronger
L319[16:06:56] <Gavle> Also, the functions are all bagel themed :P
L320[16:07:17] <S3> why custom encryption?
L321[16:07:52] <S3> Gavle: so my intermediate switch software runs on Mojolicious
L322[16:07:58] <S3> so it actually runs a webserver so you can configure it :D
L323[16:08:10] <MGR> S3, because I wanted to
L324[16:08:13] <S3> I could continue to work with that..
L325[16:08:22] <Gavle> what he said
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L327[16:08:37] <Gavle> S3, idk what Mojolicious is XD
L328[16:08:49] <S3> mojolicious is amazing
L329[16:08:55] <S3> it's a real time web framework
L330[16:09:11] <S3> which means it';s not like you go to some page and it does some stuff and then the web browser renders it
L331[16:09:20] <S3> instead it is a background running application
L332[16:09:26] <S3> it runs even when you're not logged into it
L333[16:09:43] <S3> so it cam do things
L334[16:09:49] <S3> such as GERT switching
L335[16:10:07] <Gavle> kewl
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L337[16:13:40] <Gavle> ~w internet
L338[16:13:40] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/api:internet
L339[16:14:30] <Lizzy> speaking of websites, i should continue working on mine yet here i am playing C:S
L340[16:14:32] <MGR> OH MAN
L341[16:14:41] <MGR> I am so close to finishing bagel
L342[16:14:50] <MGR> now only the final byte is corrupted!
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L347[16:25:13] <MGR> alright, I'll work on it more later
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L353[16:53:45] <S3> back
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L357[18:15:39] <S3> MGR: kiom estas bagelo helpi gerton?
L358[18:19:21] <MGR> S3, what?
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L360[18:22:50] <S3> MGR: nova pordon komencigi car GERT, OCR, sed bagelo?
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L366[18:47:14] <g> oh wow
L367[18:47:19] <g> CompanionCube's BNC got ban't
L368[18:48:54] <S3> wut?
L369[18:48:59] <Achai> Stary probably got the boot because too many connections
L370[18:48:59] <S3> how
L371[18:49:07] <g> you don't get banned for that
L372[18:49:11] <g> it just stops you from connecting
L373[18:49:23] <Achai> Last time he said that was the problem
L374[18:49:40] <g> if he did it again then he's not getting unbanned so easily
L375[18:49:41] <S3> he probably hasnt noticeed yet
L376[18:49:43] <g> but I doubt that's it
L377[18:49:54] <Achai> S3 he has, I told him
L378[18:49:56] <Achai> <Stary> :stormlight.esper.net 465 stery :You are banned from this server- Temporary K-line 60 min. - [#8897] Connection limit e
L379[18:50:03] <Achai> that was last time
L380[18:50:10] <g> oic
L381[18:50:16] <Achai> You are banned from this server- Temporary K-line 60 min. - [#8897] Connection limit exceeded. (2016/11/22 16.46)
L382[18:50:24] <Achai> copy paste fail is fail
L383[18:50:26] <g> so how do you fuck that up?
L384[18:51:02] <Achai> Last time he said he fucked up his matrix bridge config
L385[18:51:14] <g> that sounds like something esper wouldn't want
L386[18:51:27] <S3> he may want to tweak some tcp settings, sometimes, if for example he runs znc on say his raspi or something in his house, then your box or even your ISP (which is really lame) will place an idle connection limit for TCP connections, (I hate it when ISPs do it, because then I usually make a wrapper to spam MIA packets)
L387[18:51:38] <S3> it could be causing him to ping timeout a lot
L388[18:52:54] <g> nah, I think he is on a datacentre server
L389[18:52:54] <ping> S3: pretty sure it's a dedicated server/vm
L390[18:53:05] <ping> With unlimited connection limit
L391[18:53:29] <S3> and there's many things it could be, we moved znc to a docker instance and it caused a LOT of problems
L392[18:53:51] <g> nobody outside of big corps and people with too much stuff on one machine really uses docker that much anyway
L393[18:54:03] <S3> probably because some asshat set up the docker with some ubuntu crap base shit
L394[18:54:14] <S3> and never thought that more stuff was going on
L395[18:54:57] <g> well, most projects do target ubuntu
L396[18:55:00] <S3> the game engine I've been writing in Perl actually has a docker descriptor
L397[18:55:02] <g> and the standard docker base image is ubuntu also
L398[18:55:05] <S3> in case you just wanna dockerize your game
L399[18:55:15] <S3> I figured it was a neat idea at the time
L400[18:55:29] <g> until you realise you have to jump through hoops to get it to connect to X, yep
L401[18:55:35] <S3> i believe I used a Slackware base
L402[18:55:43] <S3> for minimalness
L403[18:56:35] <S3> personally I like to use BSD Jails
L404[18:56:47] <g> I like to not over-complicate
L405[18:56:47] <S3> they take a bit more work to set up but hey it's all custom that way
L406[18:57:50] * Lizzy bought a vive
L407[18:57:54] <S3> oooh
L408[18:58:07] <S3> aren't those like 600 USD?
L409[18:58:09] <Ai> jelly..
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L411[18:58:24] <S3> I saw they were for sale today on amazon
L412[18:58:25] <g> they are €800 currently
L413[18:58:26] <Ai> 800€ or so
L414[18:58:38] <g> (that's at €100 off in a sale)
L415[18:58:40] <Lizzy> i got mine for about 670£
L416[18:58:58] <g> someday I too will be rich
L417[18:58:59] <g> but not today
L418[18:59:02] <Ai> currency fun..
L419[18:59:04] <S3> I should stop in to the vr lab I worked at a couple summers ago
L420[18:59:10] <S3> they still have their SX-111
L421[18:59:17] <S3> it's like a $30,000 HMD
L422[18:59:33] <Ai> okay that sounds fun
L423[18:59:56] <S3> yes, if you dont get strangled by the wires
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L425[19:00:33] <S3> they have this 900 FPS infared imaging system that can even measure the pressure on your fingertips
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L427[19:01:08] <S3> fun toys, but I'm too busy working these days for a small research facility on campus
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L429[19:31:49] <gamax92> yo Stary
L430[19:36:09] <Izaya> so
L431[19:36:17] <Izaya> I just cut apart a glowing ghoul with a machetae
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L443[20:54:50] <SolraBizna> dangit, the egg nog ran out and now I'm two days behind
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L445[21:20:43] <flappy> wait, did craftos-installer get removed from mpt?
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L451[23:08:50] <flappy> oh it's cc-installer
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