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L27[03:43:10] <Mettaton_Fab> i hasz birb on
mah shoulder!
L28[04:41:30] <Vexatos> SANGAR
L29[04:45:16] <Sangar> not so loud, my head
hurts ,-,
L30[04:46:31] <Vexatos> ˢᵃⁿᵍᵃʳ
L31[04:49:18] <Sangar> better, thanks
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<MGR>
Sangar!
<MGR>
Sangar!L40[05:47:45] <MGR>
Oh
<MGR>
OhL41[05:47:52] ⇨
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L42[05:47:55] <MGR> I'm an
hour late :(
<MGR> I'm an
hour late :(L43[05:48:02] <OctoNezd> Hi guys
L44[05:48:08] <Forecaster> hello
L45[05:48:31] <OctoNezd> Im currently
trying to develop Tape filesystem
L46[05:48:36] <MGR> Hello
OctoNezd
<MGR> Hello
OctoNezdL47[05:48:37] <OctoNezd> I have one
question
L48[05:48:43] <OctoNezd> Why it is so
slow?
L49[05:48:51] <MGR> It's a
tape
<MGR> It's a
tapeL50[05:48:55] <Forecaster> are you talking
about computronics?
L51[05:48:58] <OctoNezd> Yeah
L52[05:49:05] <MGR> They
are very slow irl, and in game
<MGR> They
are very slow irl, and in gameL53[05:49:09] <Forecaster> direct questions
at Vexatos
L54[05:49:14] <OctoNezd> But it writes fast
as hell
L55[05:49:16] <OctoNezd> http://pastebin.com/mPDuK9PV
L56[05:49:18] <OctoNezd> Look
L57[05:49:44] <OctoNezd> Maybe I did
something wrong with read() function?
L58[05:50:12] <MGR>
Maybe
<MGR>
MaybeL59[05:50:14] <Vexatos> OctoNezd, write()
is more or less instant :P
L60[05:50:19] <Vexatos> read() too
L61[05:50:34] <OctoNezd> Is more
instant
L62[05:51:00] <OctoNezd> It so fast, that
it writes a hello world about 0.5 seconds
L63[05:51:15] <MGR>
Vexatos, Computronics 1.10?
<MGR>
Vexatos, Computronics 1.10?L64[05:51:32] <OctoNezd> But loading
helloworld takes about 3 seconds
L65[05:51:42] <Vexatos> MGR: Any
L66[05:51:56] <MGR>
Vexatos, ?
<MGR>
Vexatos, ?L67[05:54:01] <OctoNezd> Also
L68[05:54:06] <OctoNezd> Is OC community
ded?
L69[05:54:23] <Lizzy> no?
L70[05:54:25] <Forecaster> yes, we're all
zombies
L71[05:54:34] <Forecaster> you're talking
with zombies right now
L72[05:54:45] <Vexatos> Actually I'm a
robot
L73[05:54:58] <Lizzy> Forecaster, pfft,
some of us are immortal goddesses, get your facts straight
L74[05:55:08] <Forecaster> they don't need
to know that!
L75[05:55:10] <Forecaster> details
L76[05:55:11] <OctoNezd> Because CC forums
is much more active, when OC is much more popular
L77[05:55:27] <MGR>
Vexatos, what do you mean by "Any"?
<MGR>
Vexatos, what do you mean by "Any"?L78[05:55:44] <Vexatos> any MC
version
L79[05:55:55] <Vexatos> OctoNezd, CC forum
is active?
L80[05:56:06] <MGR>
Vexatos, Computronics works with any MC version?
<MGR>
Vexatos, Computronics works with any MC version?L81[05:56:10] <OctoNezd> Yeah
L82[05:56:12] <OctoNezd> Just look
L83[05:56:24] <OctoNezd> http://www.computercraft.info/forums2/index.php?/forum/12-programs/
L84[05:56:25] <Vexatos> MGR: Well 1.6.1 is
released for 1.7.10, 1.8.9, 1.9.4 and 1.10.2
L85[05:56:34] <OctoNezd> https://oc.cil.li/index.php?/forum/34-programs/
L86[05:56:41] <Vexatos> Cruor, help
L87[05:56:55] <MGR>
Vexatos, ah ok
<MGR>
Vexatos, ah okL88[05:56:56] <Vexatos> Oh
L89[05:56:59] <MGR> That
changed since I looked
<MGR> That
changed since I lookedL90[05:57:02] <Vexatos> it's only a forum
post a week at most
L91[05:57:12] <Vexatos> I was almost
worried that CC had an active forum :D
L92[05:57:37] <Vexatos> OctoNezd, it's just
that noone uses the OC forums :P
L93[05:57:45] <Vexatos> My programs are
either not released or on OPPM
L94[05:57:54] <Cruor> Vexatos: Crucru is
hear
L95[05:57:57] <Cruor> what is it you
want
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L97[05:58:15] <Vexatos> Cruor, rumours that
the CC forums are active
L98[05:58:20] <Cruor> wtf
L99[05:58:22] <Cruor> ask Cranium
L100[05:58:28] <Vexatos> Cranium,
help
L101[05:58:31] <Vexatos> universe is
collapse
L102[05:58:43] *
Lizzy turns it off and on again
L103[05:58:58] <Forecaster> dammit
nginx
L104[05:59:01] <Forecaster> why u
break
L105[05:59:10] <Cruor> wow, thats somewhat
active .-.
L106[05:59:11] <Lizzy> Forecaster, i think
the problem here is you
L107[05:59:20] <Forecaster>
impossible
L108[06:00:08] <Cruor> problem lies
between chair and keyboard? D:
L109[06:00:26] <Forecaster> but my
keyboard is attached to my chair
L110[06:00:38] <Lizzy> yep, commonly
referred to as PEBKAC, or a Layer 8 Error
L111[06:01:07] <OctoNezd> Where I can also
submit my program to OPPM?
L112[06:01:21] *
Lizzy throws Vexatos at OctoNezd
L113[06:01:28] <Vexatos> ~w oppm
L114[06:01:28] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/tutorial:program:oppm
L115[06:01:36] <Vexatos> gamax92
officially has the most stable IRC bot
L116[06:01:48] <Lizzy> hey, EnderBot2 is
stable too
L117[06:01:56] <Lizzy> it just does fuck
all cause i don't want to touch it
L118[06:02:01] <Forecaster> hey, mine has
been stably offline for a couple of years
L119[06:02:11] <Vexatos> same with
vexatron
L120[06:03:06] <Hovercraft>
What? "galaxy note 7 return kit"
<Hovercraft>
What? "galaxy note 7 return kit"L121[06:03:29] <Izaya> in case of
fire
L122[06:03:44] <Hovercraft>
It just sounds ridiculous
<Hovercraft>
It just sounds ridiculousL123[06:06:08] <MGR> Is
there a way to tell what OS is running on a machine?
<MGR> Is
there a way to tell what OS is running on a machine?L124[06:06:36] <Forecaster> be more
specific
L125[06:07:46] <MGR> I want
to know if OpenOS or some other OS is running on an OC machine from
within a program
<MGR> I want
to know if OpenOS or some other OS is running on an OC machine from
within a programL126[06:10:48]
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L128[06:14:27] <OctoNezd> Github Desktop
is more slower than TapeFS :P
L129[06:14:46] <sshika> hello. the
function "computer.pullSignal" is for a wait time ?
L130[06:14:54] <OctoNezd> No
L131[06:15:08] <OctoNezd> For waiting
time, use os.sleep(time)
L132[06:15:12] <sshika> ok thanks
L133[06:15:42] <sshika> time is in tic ?
or seconds ?
L134[06:15:46] <OctoNezd> Seconds
L135[06:15:47] <Lizzy> seconds
L136[06:15:54] <Forecaster>
lightyears
L137[06:16:05] <Lizzy> OctoNezd, of course
it's slow, use a better client :P
L138[06:16:22] <Forecaster>
sourceTree
L139[06:16:27] <Forecaster> :>
L140[06:16:32] <Lizzy> ^ or
GitKraken
L141[06:16:39] <Lizzy> both are rather
nice
L142[06:16:52] <Forecaster> sourceTree has
more features
L143[06:17:05] <Forecaster> at least last
I tried GK
L144[06:17:35] <Lizzy> i think they have
about the same
L145[06:18:27] <Vexatos> gitkraken has the
advantage of having a Linux build :P
L146[06:18:36] <Lizzy> ^
L147[06:18:40] <Lizzy> and a dark
theme
L148[06:23:09] <Hovercraft>
Having a laser pointer for no reason is fun
<Hovercraft>
Having a laser pointer for no reason is funL149[06:23:58] <MGR> I want
to know if OpenOS or some other OS is running on an OC machine from
within a program, is there a way to tell?
<MGR> I want
to know if OpenOS or some other OS is running on an OC machine from
within a program, is there a way to tell?L150[06:24:03] <MGR> from
within a program
<MGR> from
within a programL151[06:24:29] <Lizzy> you could try
reading the .osprop in the root of the drive
L152[06:26:22] <MGR> sounds
interesting
<MGR> sounds
interestingL153[06:26:26] <MGR> I'll
look into that
<MGR> I'll
look into thatL154[06:27:13] <Mettaton_Fab> imma get a
laserpointer module for christmas!
L155[06:28:27] <OctoNezd> @Vexatos
L156[06:28:34] <OctoNezd> https://github.com/OctoNezd/octonezd-programs
L157[06:29:45] <MGR>
OctoNezd, I think there's also a central GitHub repository for OC
programs
<MGR>
OctoNezd, I think there's also a central GitHub repository for OC
programsL158[06:30:17] <OctoNezd> I couldnt find
it
L160[06:30:32] <OctoNezd> That is not a
repo
L161[06:30:48] <MGR> It's a
collection of them?
<MGR> It's a
collection of them?L162[06:30:59] <OctoNezd> Yup
L163[06:31:12] <OctoNezd> to add something
to oppm, you must push there your repo
L164[06:31:20] <MGR> ah,
ok
<MGR> ah,
okL165[06:33:21] <MGR> I
should release some of my programs there....
<MGR> I
should release some of my programs there....L166[06:48:53] <Vexatos> OctoNezd,
https://github.com/OpenPrograms
L167[06:49:02] <Vexatos> if you accept the
invite, you can transfer the repo there
L168[06:49:21] <Vexatos> (go into your
repo settings and down at the bottom there's a "transfer"
button)
L169[06:52:02] <MGR>
alright
<MGR>
alrightL170[06:52:13] <MGR> Time
to finish fixing my computer
<MGR> Time
to finish fixing my computerL171[06:54:02] <Vexatos> OctoNezd, there
is already a package called tapefs on oppm :/
L172[06:54:59] <Forecaster> call yours
"OctoTapeFS"
L173[06:55:00] <Forecaster> :D
L174[06:55:18] <Cruor> Vexatos: yo
wtf
L175[06:55:24] <Cruor> where are all my
pokermangs
L176[06:55:30] <Vexatos> Cruor, in your
3DS
L177[06:55:33] <Cruor> OH
L178[06:56:55] <OctoNezd> Meh
L179[06:57:11] <OctoNezd> Pokemon SM has
big problem
L180[06:57:21] <OctoNezd> Lags
L181[06:57:28] <Cruor> git a better pc
then .-.
L182[06:57:39] <OctoNezd> ...
L183[06:58:03] <OctoNezd> Do you know on
which platform pokemons?
L184[06:58:13] <OctoNezd>
3DS/DS/GBA/GBC/GB
L185[06:58:22] <Forecaster> Xbox
L186[06:58:26] <Forecaster> :D
L187[06:58:38] <Cruor> what happend to
n64/gc/probably wii :I
L188[06:58:50] <Cruor> and phones, if you
dare include that :p
L189[07:01:56] <OctoNezd> lol
L190[07:02:06] <OctoNezd> i cant install
oppm
L191[07:02:13] <OctoNezd> it says it
couldnt find internet
L192[07:02:21] <Forecaster> you need an
internet card
L193[07:02:39] <OctoNezd> i put mine in
all 3 slots
L194[07:02:41] <OctoNezd> :)
L195[07:02:49] <OctoNezd> still same
thing
L196[07:03:01] <MGR> I need
a magnetic screwdriver ?
<MGR> I need
a magnetic screwdriver ?L197[07:03:13] <Forecaster> okay... adding
more isn't going to solve it.
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L202[07:16:12] <MGR> this
is superbad
<MGR> this
is superbadL203[07:16:21] <MGR> none
of the screws want to go back in my computer
<MGR> none
of the screws want to go back in my computerL204[07:16:37] <Forecaster> probably
because you're not paying them
L205[07:18:30] <Mettaton_Fab> just glue
everything together!
L206[07:18:54] <MGR> and I
just spilled all my screws on the floor
<MGR> and I
just spilled all my screws on the floorL207[07:19:00] <MGR> today
= #1 day
<MGR> today
= #1 dayL208[07:19:35] <Hovercraft>
I'm thinking about installing Gentoo, any advice?
<Hovercraft>
I'm thinking about installing Gentoo, any advice?L209[07:19:52] <Hovercraft>
Yes, I will have the install Gentoo video on
<Hovercraft>
Yes, I will have the install Gentoo video onL210[07:20:11] ⇦
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L212[07:21:54] <MGR>
yarghhhhh
<MGR>
yarghhhhhL213[07:21:59] <MGR> My
grandmother called my up
<MGR> My
grandmother called my upL214[07:22:10] <MGR> A
couple years ago, she bought an iPad mini
<MGR> A
couple years ago, she bought an iPad miniL215[07:22:14] <MGR> which
ran out of storage space
<MGR> which
ran out of storage spaceL216[07:22:20] <MGR> so she
bought a Samsung tablet
<MGR> so she
bought a Samsung tabletL217[07:22:27] <MGR> which
now ran out of space XD
<MGR> which
now ran out of space XDL218[07:22:40] <Hovercraft>
Does it have a microSD slot
<Hovercraft>
Does it have a microSD slotL219[07:22:49] <MGR> idk,
have to find out
<MGR> idk,
have to find outL220[07:23:10] <Hovercraft>
If so then just pop out the card and insert a 64GB one or
something
<Hovercraft>
If so then just pop out the card and insert a 64GB one or
somethingL221[07:23:42] <MGR>
yeah
<MGR>
yeahL222[07:24:25] <Hovercraft>
Anyway... *Plays install Gentoo video*
<Hovercraft>
Anyway... *Plays install Gentoo video*L223[07:24:30] <Hovercraft>
*Puts on robe*
<Hovercraft>
*Puts on robe*L224[07:24:52] <Forecaster> why does it
require a video
L225[07:24:59] <Hovercraft>
Because gentoo
<Hovercraft>
Because gentooL226[07:25:42] <Forecaster> I knew that
already
L227[07:25:59] <Hovercraft>
I need a robe though
<Hovercraft>
I need a robe thoughL228[07:28:29] <MGR>
er,khqw;lkt;dkgj;ldskfj
<MGR>
er,khqw;lkt;dkgj;ldskfjL229[07:28:34] <MGR> Turns
out, there are 2 screws
<MGR> Turns
out, there are 2 screwsL230[07:28:40] <MGR> They
look almost exactly the same
<MGR> They
look almost exactly the sameL231[07:28:48] <MGR> Same
length, same head width
<MGR> Same
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L233[07:29:03] <MGR> but
one has a .5 mm difference in thread diameter
<MGR> but
one has a .5 mm difference in thread diameterL234[07:29:29] <MGR> and I
was trying to use the bigger ones because I didn't know there were
2 types
<MGR> and I
was trying to use the bigger ones because I didn't know there were
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L236[07:31:07] <MGR> if I
ever meet who thought of that, they will be punched
<MGR> if I
ever meet who thought of that, they will be punchedL237[07:31:21] <Hovercraft>
*gasps* Wow, Chinese text in grub
<Hovercraft>
*gasps* Wow, Chinese text in grubL238[07:33:13] <20kdc>
Apparently "realize" is not a word in the spell checker.
Hmm, though, is. Today is an odd day.
<20kdc>
Apparently "realize" is not a word in the spell checker.
Hmm, though, is. Today is an odd day.L239[07:33:51] <20kdc> So,
anyway, I was going to wonder about the implementation details of
Chinese text on an 80x25 text display, but then I realized. It's
GRUB. They'd find a way.
<20kdc> So,
anyway, I was going to wonder about the implementation details of
Chinese text on an 80x25 text display, but then I realized. It's
GRUB. They'd find a way.L240[07:34:00]
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L241[07:35:34] <Hovercraft>
Chinese text... it's amazing that they did it but they did it
anyway
<Hovercraft>
Chinese text... it's amazing that they did it but they did it
anywayL242[07:45:21] <MGR>
alright everyone, the time has come
<MGR>
alright everyone, the time has comeL243[07:45:27] <MGR> It's
time to see if my laptop will turn on!
<MGR> It's
time to see if my laptop will turn on!L244[07:46:21] <Hovercraft>
Yay, Hong Kong is blessed by Gentoo™!
<Hovercraft>
Yay, Hong Kong is blessed by Gentoo™!L245[07:46:34] <MGR> IT
WILL START
<MGR> IT
WILL STARTL246[07:46:38] <Corded> * MGR begins
cheering
L247[07:47:04] <Mettaton_Fab> MGR, did it
crash?
L248[07:47:16] <Forecaster> oh right, my
script doesn't intercept actions
L249[07:47:33] <MGR> crap
crap crap crap
<MGR> crap
crap crap crapL250[07:47:42] <MGR> I
didn't screw down the hinges
<MGR> I
didn't screw down the hingesL251[07:47:49] <MGR> it's
messing up the houseingak
<MGR> it's
messing up the houseingakL252[07:47:52] <20kdc> It's
nice to see that someone cares for the language with so many code
points support for it is visible as a massive block on any Unicode
codepoint sheet... Though I guess it's *still* better than anything
RTL.
<20kdc> It's
nice to see that someone cares for the language with so many code
points support for it is visible as a massive block on any Unicode
codepoint sheet... Though I guess it's *still* better than anything
RTL.L253[07:48:34] <Hovercraft>
Chinese can be written RTL vertically
<Hovercraft>
Chinese can be written RTL verticallyL254[07:48:52] <Hovercraft>
And horizontally in ye olde days
<Hovercraft>
And horizontally in ye olde daysL255[07:48:53] <20kdc> Can
be, but is there actual support for that?
<20kdc> Can
be, but is there actual support for that?L256[07:49:03] <Hovercraft>
In word processors mostly
<Hovercraft>
In word processors mostlyL257[07:49:28] <Hovercraft>
Although with Chinese being nice and monospace you can always use
full width spaces
<Hovercraft>
Although with Chinese being nice and monospace you can always use
full width spacesL258[07:50:17] <20kdc>
...text layout is hell.
<20kdc>
...text layout is hell.L259[07:50:22] <20kdc> I'm
just saying. It is hell.
<20kdc> I'm
just saying. It is hell.L260[07:52:23] <Hovercraft>
As a native speaker, I love and hate my language for the same exact
reasons
<Hovercraft>
As a native speaker, I love and hate my language for the same exact
reasonsL261[07:52:46] <20kdc> Eh.
At least your language doesn't *mandate* RTL for everything.
<20kdc> Eh.
At least your language doesn't *mandate* RTL for everything.L262[07:53:50] <Hovercraft>
Vertical text = Hell for layout design
<Hovercraft>
Vertical text = Hell for layout designL263[07:54:00] <Hovercraft>
Although monospace = nice for text mode
<Hovercraft>
Although monospace = nice for text modeL264[07:54:30] <20kdc> Yep.
TODO: create OpenComputers: All Characters Are Wide By Essentially
Random Amounts Edition
<20kdc> Yep.
TODO: create OpenComputers: All Characters Are Wide By Essentially
Random Amounts EditionL265[07:54:58] <Hovercraft>
But of course, with the characters having approximately 3,000,000
strokes it's quite difficult for people to draw it in pixels
<Hovercraft>
But of course, with the characters having approximately 3,000,000
strokes it's quite difficult for people to draw it in pixelsL266[07:55:16] <20kdc>
Unifont managed it (somehow)...
<20kdc>
Unifont managed it (somehow)...L267[07:55:17] <MGR> so, I
have bad and ok news
<MGR> so, I
have bad and ok newsL268[07:55:47] <MGR> Bad
news: the entire left hinge from the screen decided it wanted to be
free from the chassis
<MGR> Bad
news: the entire left hinge from the screen decided it wanted to be
free from the chassisL269[07:55:56] <MGR> ok
news: I have one screw that should hold it together
<MGR> ok
news: I have one screw that should hold it togetherL270[07:56:20] <20kdc> But
MGR, the hinge just wants to be freeeee
<20kdc> But
MGR, the hinge just wants to be freeeeeL271[07:57:08] <MGR>
never!
<MGR>
never!L272[07:57:12] <MGR> my
friend is paying me money for this
<MGR> my
friend is paying me money for thisL273[07:57:23] <Mettaton_Fab> MGR, just
glue it to the chassis!
L274[07:58:03] <20kdc> I
suggest disassembling the laptop, building a new chassis that looks
cooler and holds stuff in better, and then using that.
<20kdc> I
suggest disassembling the laptop, building a new chassis that looks
cooler and holds stuff in better, and then using that.L275[07:58:07] <MGR>
Mettaton_Fab, I don't want to use glue unless I absolutely have
to
<MGR>
Mettaton_Fab, I don't want to use glue unless I absolutely have
toL276[07:58:21] <MGR> @20kdc
can you do that in under $10?
<MGR> @20kdc
can you do that in under $10?L277[07:58:26] <MGR>
because that's how much profit I have
<MGR>
because that's how much profit I haveL278[07:58:35] <20kdc>
Didn't say it has to be made of anything but cardboard.
<20kdc>
Didn't say it has to be made of anything but cardboard.L279[07:58:41] <MGR> I'm
mainly doing this so she will talk to me again
<MGR> I'm
mainly doing this so she will talk to me againL280[07:59:21] <20kdc> Ah.
JMAA Protocol failure case?
<20kdc> Ah.
JMAA Protocol failure case?L281[07:59:32] <Mettaton_Fab> hey, what
about getting a normal PC and putting it into a big box which can
be supplied with a massive battery?
L282[07:59:33] <MGR>
Mettaton_Fab, if it makes you feel better, I taped one of the
speakers to the chassis
<MGR>
Mettaton_Fab, if it makes you feel better, I taped one of the
speakers to the chassisL283[07:59:41] <MGR> @20kdc
JMAA Protocol?
<MGR> @20kdc
JMAA Protocol?L284[08:00:16] <20kdc>
Well, spelt "JMAP" for whatever reason... I read about it
in a very official-looking paper! (Emphasis on
"-looking".)
<20kdc>
Well, spelt "JMAP" for whatever reason... I read about it
in a very official-looking paper! (Emphasis on
"-looking".)L285[08:01:14] <MGR>
??
<MGR>
??L286[08:01:42] <Mettaton_Fab> i want to
build my next pc into a nice enclosure made from 1cm Plastic
boards.
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tests
L289[08:08:28] <Mettaton_Fab> i already
have a case which i will use for that!
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again
L292[08:09:54] <Hovercraft>
I'm going to install Gentoo on my main computer...
#InstallGentooEveryday
<Hovercraft>
I'm going to install Gentoo on my main computer...
#InstallGentooEverydayL293[08:09:56]
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marbles
L299[08:23:40] <Mettaton_Fab> i cant
decide if i will build a screent into the pc i wanna build.
L300[08:24:08] <Mettaton_Fab> also how
will the screen be connected?
L301[08:24:12] <Corded> * Forecaster does
another test
L302[08:24:32] <20kdc>
Mettaton_Fab: why not grab an Arduino and one of those awful
resistive touchscreen shields
<20kdc>
Mettaton_Fab: why not grab an Arduino and one of those awful
resistive touchscreen shieldsL303[08:24:54] <20kdc> you
can control them via something which looks like a serial port, acts
like a serial port, and quacks like a serial port,
<20kdc> you
can control them via something which looks like a serial port, acts
like a serial port, and quacks like a serial port,L304[08:24:58] <20kdc> but
isn't quite a serial port.
<20kdc> but
isn't quite a serial port.L305[08:25:08] <Mettaton_Fab> i want to
put a normal Core2Quad PC into a box i will biuld
L306[08:25:13] <Mettaton_Fab> *build
L307[08:25:30] <20kdc> yes,
but the Arduino would be used for the secondary screen
<20kdc> yes,
but the Arduino would be used for the secondary screenL308[08:26:02] <20kdc>
...you could also do things like use jumper wires to connect up the
power button to the Arduino, assuming the power button voltage is
5V.
<20kdc>
...you could also do things like use jumper wires to connect up the
power button to the Arduino, assuming the power button voltage is
5V.L309[08:26:46] <20kdc> But
that would probably require that the Arduino not be connected via
USB to the computer, since then the computer would need to be
running to start the computer.
<20kdc> But
that would probably require that the Arduino not be connected via
USB to the computer, since then the computer would need to be
running to start the computer.L310[08:29:27] <Skye> PC PSUs need a wire
(green) to be shorted to ground (or given a TTL logic 0) to turn
on.
L311[08:29:58] <Skye> There is limited
power for standby on the purple wire 5v
L312[08:30:08] <20kdc>
Skye: Ah, that should work perfectly.
<20kdc>
Skye: Ah, that should work perfectly.L313[08:30:37]
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L314[08:31:26] <20kdc> TTL
logic 0 is easily produced via the Arduino directly, or in case of
this somehow failing - which makes no sense - using a small MOSFET
(Can't say I'm a fan of standard transistors myself, too
complicated.)
<20kdc> TTL
logic 0 is easily produced via the Arduino directly, or in case of
this somehow failing - which makes no sense - using a small MOSFET
(Can't say I'm a fan of standard transistors myself, too
complicated.)L315[08:33:04] ⇦
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L317[08:34:07] <Mettaton_Fab> i can put
one screen into the top of the case i want to build, and let the
connection lead to the back of the machine.
L318[08:34:33] <Mettaton_Fab> so i could
connect another display in the back
L319[08:38:34] <Mettaton_Fab> but i will
have to buy a new display for that.
L320[08:39:29] <20kdc> Ok,
so an NPN transistor, a diode, and maybe a resistor or two could
work, if it's needed to isolate the Arduino. Simulation over, time
to dig out the electronics kit and hope I don't accidentally cause
another "The NPN feels like it'll probably burn my
fingers" incident.)
<20kdc> Ok,
so an NPN transistor, a diode, and maybe a resistor or two could
work, if it's needed to isolate the Arduino. Simulation over, time
to dig out the electronics kit and hope I don't accidentally cause
another "The NPN feels like it'll probably burn my
fingers" incident.)L321[08:39:57] <Mettaton_Fab> just connect
it to a heatsink?
L322[08:41:32] <20kdc>
Mettaton_Fab: It was one transistor. *one.* They're tiny. I suspect
it was because I was trying to make an oscillator with a quartz
crystal, and for all I know I succeeded, but I'm never trying to
recreate that configuration.
<20kdc>
Mettaton_Fab: It was one transistor. *one.* They're tiny. I suspect
it was because I was trying to make an oscillator with a quartz
crystal, and for all I know I succeeded, but I'm never trying to
recreate that configuration.L323[08:45:16] <Forecaster>
um
<Forecaster>
umL324[08:45:19] <Forecaster>
hm
<Forecaster>
hmL325[08:45:29] <Forecaster>
does this work? maybe?
<Forecaster>
does this work? maybe?L326[08:45:34] <Forecaster>
it might. maybe.
<Forecaster>
it might. maybe.L327[08:45:40] <Corded> * Forecaster
tests
L329[08:47:09] <MGR> Never
has that screen brought me more jou
<MGR> Never
has that screen brought me more jouL330[08:48:04] <MGR>
joy*
<MGR>
joy*L331[08:48:13] <Corded> * 20kdc sleeps for
a while, to help Forecaster test things.
L332[08:50:39] <MGR>
hello
<MGR>
helloL333[08:50:41] <Forecaster> last attempt
caused irssi to crash due to segfault
L334[08:50:42] <Forecaster> xD
L335[08:50:46] <MGR> WHOO
IT WORKED
<MGR> WHOO
IT WORKEDL336[08:51:00] <MGR>
Mettaton_Fab, you're not getting my laptop
<MGR>
Mettaton_Fab, you're not getting my laptopL337[08:51:03] <MGR> I
FIXED IT!
<MGR> I
FIXED IT!L338[08:51:12] <MGR> Except
maybe the battery and optical drive
<MGR> Except
maybe the battery and optical driveL339[08:51:54] <Mettaton_Fab> does it
werk?
L340[08:53:17] <MGR> The
Optical Drive works
<MGR> The
Optical Drive worksL341[08:53:34] <MGR> So far
the battery is being a little weird, but that's not critical right
now
<MGR> So far
the battery is being a little weird, but that's not critical right
nowL342[08:55:09] <MGR> Oh
no
<MGR> Oh
noL343[08:55:16] <MGR> I've
been spoiled by having an SSD for too long
<MGR> I've
been spoiled by having an SSD for too longL344[08:55:28] <MGR> And
now it feels like my old laptop is 100x slower than before
<MGR> And
now it feels like my old laptop is 100x slower than beforeL345[08:55:47] <MGR>
because it can't download games, update programs, and do other
random stuff all at once
<MGR>
because it can't download games, update programs, and do other
random stuff all at onceL346[08:57:18] <Corded> * Forecaster does
more tests
L347[08:58:53] <Corded> * Forecaster many
tests
L348[08:59:01] <MGR>
@Forecaster what are you testing?
<MGR>
@Forecaster what are you testing?L349[08:59:16] <Corded> * Forecaster is
testing parsing actions from Corded
L350[08:59:35] <Forecaster>
hey it's working
<Forecaster>
hey it's workingL351[08:59:37] <Forecaster>
woop
<Forecaster>
woopL352[08:59:41] <Corded> * Forecaster final
test
L353[09:01:05] <MGR>
kewlio
<MGR>
kewlioL354[09:01:14] <MGR> Also,
my new thermal paste seems to be working
<MGR> Also,
my new thermal paste seems to be workingL355[09:01:29] <MGR> I
loaded my CPU up to 100%, and it's only scraping 80^C
<MGR> I
loaded my CPU up to 100%, and it's only scraping 80^CL356[09:01:38] <MGR> now
let's load up the iGPU
<MGR> now
let's load up the iGPUL357[09:04:24] <Mettaton_Fab> can someone
help me design a PC case which can be used as a laptop?
L358[09:04:39] <Forecaster> get a pizza
box
L359[09:09:44] <20kdc> MGR:
"only scraping 80 degrees C"
<20kdc> MGR:
"only scraping 80 degrees C"L360[09:09:52] <20kdc>
umm... do we have a different definition of
"working"?
<20kdc>
umm... do we have a different definition of
"working"?L361[09:10:14] <20kdc> 80
degrees C is pretty warm.
<20kdc> 80
degrees C is pretty warm.L362[09:13:43] <MGR> @20kdc
before, it used to hit 100^C with just modded Minecraft
<MGR> @20kdc
before, it used to hit 100^C with just modded MinecraftL363[09:14:03] <20kdc> 100
degrees C?... are you sure you've got a *computer* there, and not a
kettle?
<20kdc> 100
degrees C?... are you sure you've got a *computer* there, and not a
kettle?L364[09:14:13] <20kdc> I'd
be scared at 80.
<20kdc> I'd
be scared at 80.L365[09:14:15] <MGR> that's
what CoreTemp is telling me
<MGR> that's
what CoreTemp is telling meL366[09:14:28] <20kdc> I
mean, if it says 128 degrees C, it's probably telling lies
<20kdc> I
mean, if it says 128 degrees C, it's probably telling liesL367[09:14:32] <MGR> It
says that the CPU is specced to 100C, and Intel's ARK agrees
<MGR> It
says that the CPU is specced to 100C, and Intel's ARK agreesL368[09:14:55] <20kdc> but
only if it says precisely 128.0C
<20kdc> but
only if it says precisely 128.0CL369[09:15:04] <MGR> it
never says that
<MGR> it
never says thatL370[09:15:46] <20kdc> if
it says above 100C, and it does NOT say 128C, then it's time to
hold the power button for about 6 seconds
<20kdc> if
it says above 100C, and it does NOT say 128C, then it's time to
hold the power button for about 6 secondsL371[09:16:04] <20kdc> and
then go have a nice relaxing cup of tea
<20kdc> and
then go have a nice relaxing cup of teaL372[09:16:51] <S3> CompanionCube: I came
up with a new protocol unrelated to the Ocranet that I think will
be really useful
L373[09:16:59] <S3> it can be used with
Ocranet or without
L374[09:17:08] <MGR> @20kdc
well, it's working right now
<MGR> @20kdc
well, it's working right nowL375[09:17:54] <S3> it's a meta protocol
designed to greet new neighbors on a network and announce
information about the area of the network they are connected to and
the protocols / features it supports, instead of an individual
machine
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L378[09:19:05] <S3> The way it works is
that a node in the network becomes an "advisor" which
periodically sends out very basic network information; the bare
minimum a new host needs to know about communicating on the
network
L379[09:19:48] <20kdc>
...so, DHCP?
<20kdc>
...so, DHCP?L380[09:20:06] <Syrren> sounds more like
the IPv6 version, but yes
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L382[09:21:43] <S3> Syrren: it is very
much like ipv6 Ras
L383[09:21:55] <S3> but protocol
independent
L384[09:22:29] <S3> this is my solution
for a bunch of people in MC all writing their own protocols at the
same pseudo layer like it's been done
L385[09:23:20] <Syrren> S3: https://xkcd.com/927/
L386[09:23:20] <MichiBot> XKCD Comic Name:
Standards Posted on: 7/20/2011
L387[09:23:44] <S3> HAha yeah that
one
L388[09:23:50] <Syrren> very relevant,
though.
L389[09:23:56] <S3> yep
L390[09:24:32] <S3> the nice thing is that
it's passive so as long as your network isn't.. just blindly
reading packet data
L391[09:24:38] <S3> it should be able to
ignore my meta packets
L392[09:24:41] <Syrren> admittedly, I'm
one to talk, given that I've put some serious thought into
designing a network stack for Factorio
L393[09:25:02] <Syrren> in-game network
stack, that is.
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L395[09:27:47] <S3> ]Ocranet is an ATM
like circuit switched protocol
L396[09:28:12] <Syrren> I have to ask,
why'd you choose circuit-switching?
L397[09:28:14] <S3> but it may seriously
benefit with my meta protocol for dynamic routing
L398[09:28:19] <Syrren> not that there's
something specifically wrong with it, but still
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L400[09:29:10] <20kdc> The
reason I don't use routed infrastructure in MC is simple: there's
no need for it. I'd be surprised if someone actually had a
complicated enough infrastructure to merit a routing layer.
<20kdc> The
reason I don't use routed infrastructure in MC is simple: there's
no need for it. I'd be surprised if someone actually had a
complicated enough infrastructure to merit a routing layer.L401[09:29:49] <20kdc>
Unless you had every lamp controlled by a microcontroller.
<20kdc>
Unless you had every lamp controlled by a microcontroller.L402[09:30:38] <Forecaster>
One per lamp?
<Forecaster>
One per lamp?L403[09:31:01] <20kdc>
Yep.
<20kdc>
Yep.L404[09:31:02] <S3> circuit switching has
always been potentially useful for connecting networks of networks
together. It is much easier to control the paths information goes,
even in a meshed network. One of the other reasons for choosing
circuit switching is that this way I can make use of signalling
protocols to reduce the side of the packet headers
L405[09:31:14] <S3> for example, the
headers of my packets can be as small as a couple bytes
L406[09:31:19] <Syrren> yeah, circuit
IDs
L407[09:31:24] <20kdc> That
makes sense, but why would you need networks of networks?
<20kdc> That
makes sense, but why would you need networks of networks?L408[09:31:24] <S3> pretty much
L409[09:31:40] <Forecaster> why woudln't
you juse use redstone controllers?
L410[09:31:40] <S3> and then the control
cells are just passive and unobtrusive
L411[09:31:52] <Forecaster>
s/juse/just
L412[09:31:52] <MichiBot>
<Forecaster> why woudln't you just use redstone
controllers?
L413[09:32:19] <S3> Because I designed
Ocranet to connect SMP servers together :P)
L414[09:32:32] <20kdc> S3:
Ah, that makes sense
<20kdc> S3:
Ah, that makes senseL415[09:32:47] <20kdc>
Inter-server starts to make things justified, since the system is
less coordinated
<20kdc>
Inter-server starts to make things justified, since the system is
less coordinatedL416[09:32:51] <S3> you can built a small
telco station and then just make a simple circuit connection to
another smp server
L417[09:33:26] <20kdc> Is
there a reference on the Ocranet specification?
<20kdc> Is
there a reference on the Ocranet specification?L418[09:33:45] <S3> this is particularly
useful because now you can for example; connect your OC machine to
an AE network, and create a web application that allows you to log
in to some website and overview your base status and AE
information
L419[09:33:48] <S3> easily
L420[09:34:04] <Syrren> I'll just leave
this here
L421[09:34:05] <Syrren> https://www.reddit.com/r/factorio/comments/54s3t5/clusterio_the_first_mod_that_allows_moving_items/
L422[09:34:16] <S3> you can do that now,
it just makes some of the work done for you
L423[09:34:40] <S3> heh
L424[09:35:16] <Syrren> someone's already
implemented a factorio CPU, just the LAN and WAN protocols left
:P
L425[09:35:27] <S3> the only downside
Syrren is that UDP (unless Sangar actually finally implemented it)
is not available. so to connect servers together, you need an
intermediate switch, and I am writing an elastic switch for public
use
L426[09:35:48] <S3> as well as allowing
others to run their own switches and connect them to mine for a
tiered setup if they wish
L427[09:36:00] <Syrren> Uh, might be a
better idea to run a local TCP<->UDP broker on each MC
server.
L428[09:36:14] <S3> you could
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L430[09:36:29] <Syrren> unless you're
aiming for players being able to use this on servers that don't
explicitly support the system
L431[09:36:58] <S3> right. there are also
two subsets of the protocol to choose from
L432[09:38:21] <S3> an ATM like cell based
data transfer, and then for those people like whats his face who
wants to stream a lot of data from his computronics tapes, a SONET
like interlaced cell transfer mode, which interlaces up to 8KB of
packets and shoves them to the uplink, but that really needs that
UDP link to work well.
L433[09:38:37] <vifino> Hey S3.
L434[09:38:39] <S3> without that we can
only efficiently use our small cells
L435[09:38:40] <Inari> grape juice tastes
so good
L436[09:38:44] <S3> hey vifino
L437[09:38:51] <vifino> how's it
going?
L438[09:39:10] <Syrren> S3: 8KB > MTU
and you probably don't want fragmentation
L439[09:39:12] <S3> vifino: been
implementing a new passive protocol on my SSP map
L440[09:39:25] <S3> Syrren: exactly,
that's why it's only really useful with UDP
L441[09:39:33] <Syrren> ...um.
L442[09:39:54] <Syrren> sending 8KB chunks
over UDP -> fragmentation -> bad
L443[09:40:01] <Syrren> sending 8KB chunks
over TCP -> normal
L444[09:40:18] <Syrren> well, you'd have
to handle the self-delimiting bit yourself, but still
L445[09:40:37] <Syrren> I am assuming that
when you say "chunk" you mean "datagram", in a
UDP context
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L447[09:41:27] <S3> it depends, I mean yes
you will lose all of the datagram, but I'd rather not have tcp
decide to resend everything
L448[09:42:00] <S3> because it will be
housing multiple connections at a time, and some of that data will
not be needed to be reliable
L449[09:42:11] <S3> an AAL like layer will
handle it.
L450[09:42:38] <Syrren> I'm not arguing
for TCP, but if you want performance you'll need to do MTU
detection of some kind
L451[09:42:45] <Syrren> or assume 1500 and
hope for the best
L452[09:42:46] <S3> yes
L453[09:43:16] <Syrren> in an ideal world
we'd all be using SCTP and it's wonderful configurable streams, but
it's in a similar position to IPv6, unfortunately, minus the
advocacy.
L454[09:43:27] <S3> I intended this
transfer mode as more of an inter switch outside of the game
<-----> other interswitch outside of the game sort of
connection
L455[09:43:35] <S3> a trunk
L456[09:43:36] <Syrren> oh.
L457[09:43:49] <S3> that way you werent
sending a lot of small packets
L458[09:44:14] <S3> you could technically
use tcp as well, I mean a UDP and tcp port will be open when it's
all supported
L459[09:44:39] <S3> just if you are
housing 10 differen't people's tyraffic and 5 of them are just say
random streams that don't matter
L460[09:44:46] <S3> why resend the ENTIRE
datagram
L461[09:44:56] <SolraBizna> Syrren: that
is the most concice, yet accurate description of why adoption of
SCTP isn't a thing I've ever seen
L462[09:45:03] <Syrren> X)
L463[09:45:10] <S3> SCTP is nice
L464[09:45:19] <Mettaton_Fab> yo, i want
to make a PC that will be over 6 Optical drives high.
L465[09:45:41] <Syrren> real-life or
OC?
L466[09:45:49] <Mettaton_Fab>
real-life?
L467[09:45:58] <Syrren> *sigh*
L468[09:46:01] <Mettaton_Fab> OC does not
have optical drives.
L469[09:46:06] <SolraBizna> YET!
L470[09:46:08] <Syrren> oh, OK.
L471[09:46:38] *
SolraBizna remembers the days when CD-ROMs were much, much larger
than affordable hard disks, and now wishes to inflict that upon the
OpenComputers world
L472[09:46:47] <Mettaton_Fab> but could we
throw the compact discs if OC had optical drives?
L473[09:47:00] <S3> Syrren: I'd love to
use SCTP, and I know Linux / FreeBSD, etc have great support for
SCTP, but I'm just not sure how it would play in case somebody was
on a network that blocks everything but known connections, etc..
because it's not every day you hear somebody talk about
sctp..
L474[09:47:09] <vifino> S3: ever played
minetest? I think I'll make a mod that adds vt100 terminals and
probably a few computers, like forth machines :)
L475[09:47:23] <S3> I looked into it
vifino
L476[09:47:23] <Syrren> S3: I'm in the
same boat, lol. SCTP is so damn well suited for stuff like games
but NOOPE
L477[09:47:26] <S3> I dunno how you'd do
that
L478[09:47:35] <vifino> there is a lua
modding api.
L479[09:48:07] <S3> yes but it's server
side only
L480[09:48:12] <S3> and I dunno how tpo
make those nice displays
L481[09:48:18] <S3> if you can figure it
out then AMAZING
L482[09:48:26] <S3> because I wasn't sure
how to do it
L483[09:48:40] <S3> I love the minetest
modding api
L484[09:48:48] <gamax92> lol no you
don't
L485[09:48:56] <gamax92> it's fucking
terrible
L486[09:49:04] <S3> yes but it's not
Java
L487[09:49:05] <S3> XD
L488[09:49:08] <vifino> only sad part is
that i will most likely be restricted to 10Hz I/O
L489[09:49:19] <SolraBizna> Scala!
L490[09:49:23] <S3> what's wrong with 10
Hz IO?
L491[09:49:29] <S3> minecraft is 10 Hz
IO
L492[09:49:32] <vifino> because i think
minetest runs at 10 ticks per second.
L493[09:49:33] <vifino> 20.
L494[09:49:38] <S3> vifino: you
forge
L495[09:49:41] <S3> forget
L496[09:49:48] <S3> 2 ticks per redstone
update iirc?
L497[09:49:53] <S3> I thought
L498[09:50:03] <gamax92> vifino is a
forge?
L499[09:50:10] <SolraBizna> the Nyquist
theorem means you have 10Hz IO with redstone, but there are other
forms of IO in OC
L500[09:50:11] *
Caitlyn sighs
L501[09:50:22] <Caitlyn> Another trip
around the sun
L502[09:50:28] <SolraBizna> depending on
how you measure the IO speed, that is
L503[09:50:37] <SolraBizna> the sampling
rate is 20Hz, the bandwidth(?) is 10Hz
L504[09:50:52] <gamax92> Caitlyn: yep
...
L505[09:50:53] <Forecaster> Caitlyn: also
another fall
L506[09:50:56] <Forecaster> :>
L507[09:51:01] <Forecaster> because
orbiting is falling
L508[09:51:01] <vifino> then minetest's
might as well be 5hz
L509[09:51:10] <vifino> but i have no
statements confirming that.
L510[09:51:37] <S3> vifino: can you
develop a packet system that can encapsulate more than one event at
a time?
L511[09:51:42] <S3> simulating more than
5Hz
L512[09:51:49] <S3> for updates
L513[09:52:14] <SolraBizna> things are
different if it's a packet arriving every cycle, not a sample
L514[09:52:14] <vifino> in any case, i
think that memory access at 5hz would be... bad.
L515[09:52:29] <S3> naw
L516[09:52:29] <S3> :D
L517[09:52:30] <20kdc>
Mine*craft* is 20hz AFAIK, and as long as you can make redstone
changes once every tick reliably, you can send data at 20 bits per
second.
<20kdc>
Mine*craft* is 20hz AFAIK, and as long as you can make redstone
changes once every tick reliably, you can send data at 20 bits per
second.L518[09:52:38] <S3> it would just be slow
:D
L519[09:52:44] <S3> very, very slow
L520[09:52:56] <S3> why tick based..
sigh
L521[09:53:01] <20kdc>
Mine*test* runs at different speeds depending on how stuff's been
implemented
<20kdc>
Mine*test* runs at different speeds depending on how stuff's been
implementedL522[09:53:10] <vifino> actually, i don't
know if minetest is even tick based.
L523[09:53:10] <20kdc> Node
timers are slow
<20kdc> Node
timers are slowL524[09:53:21] <S3> when I made my game
engine I purposely said no ticks
L525[09:53:24] <SolraBizna> a tick based
engine is a consistent engine
L526[09:53:33] <S3> I went 100%
reactive
L527[09:53:33] <vifino> er,
mesecons/digilines
L528[09:53:44] <vifino> i think i confused
myself.
L529[09:53:48] <20kdc>
vifino: digilines uses minetest.after for stuff
<20kdc>
vifino: digilines uses minetest.after for stuffL530[09:53:48] <SolraBizna> delta-time
based engines tend to diverge at extremes of delta-time
L531[09:53:57] <20kdc>
vifino: at least, if we're talking LuaControllers
<20kdc>
vifino: at least, if we're talking LuaControllersL532[09:54:05] <gamax92> what about
63Hz
L533[09:54:27] <vifino> 20kdc: therefore?
what rate would that result in?
L534[09:54:48] <20kdc>
vifino: Basically? Hell if I know, but minetest.after is measured
as a floating point number of seconds
<20kdc>
vifino: Basically? Hell if I know, but minetest.after is measured
as a floating point number of secondsL535[09:55:02] <SolraBizna> I'm a firm
advocate of fixed-tickrate-variable-framerate, though I have a
friend who is an advocate of a parametric approach
L536[09:55:02] <20kdc> so
if the server *is tickless* then you basically have infinite time
resolution
<20kdc> so
if the server *is tickless* then you basically have infinite time
resolutionL537[09:55:16] <SolraBizna> I'm not sure
how serious he is about that, he's one of those people where it's
hard to tell
L538[09:55:17] <vifino> yeah, i know it is
faster than 1Hz, for sure :P
L539[09:55:44] <20kdc>
vifino: But really, don't touch node timers if you want stuff to go
fast.
<20kdc>
vifino: But really, don't touch node timers if you want stuff to go
fast.L540[09:56:20] <vifino> 20kdc: i do need
to limit the speed, though.
L541[09:56:46] <20kdc>
vifino: Well, you have to limit the speed due to LuaControllers
having "overheat" protection
<20kdc>
vifino: Well, you have to limit the speed due to LuaControllers
having "overheat" protectionL542[09:57:06] <20kdc>
(they stop working if you run them too fast)
<20kdc>
(they stop working if you run them too fast)L543[09:57:17] <vifino> I'm not using lua
controllers, i am planning to make a mod...
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L545[09:57:47] <gamax92> SolraBizna:
theoretically I could use WDM to add new opcodes or hook COP for
some new functionality
L546[09:57:48] <vifino> i just want to
communicate between peripherals and such via digilines, since it's
already there.
L547[09:57:57] <20kdc>
vifino: Digilines is infinite speed.
<20kdc>
vifino: Digilines is infinite speed.L548[09:58:02] <vifino> \o/
L549[09:58:07] <vifino> infinite speed
best speed
L550[09:58:18] <SolraBizna> gamax92: what
sort of functionality did you have in mind?
L551[09:58:25] <gamax92> I wish I had
infinite speed
L552[09:58:38] *
vifino overclocks gamax92 as a consolidation prize
L553[09:58:44] <20kdc>
vifino: Only send strings and numbers via digilines, maybe tables
if you're feeling lucky. You can send anything, but *don't*. Just
don't.
<20kdc>
vifino: Only send strings and numbers via digilines, maybe tables
if you're feeling lucky. You can send anything, but *don't*. Just
don't.L554[09:59:18] <Forecaster>
hm
<Forecaster>
hmL555[09:59:18] <vifino> 20kdc: i don't
plan to send anything but strings and numbers. maybe i'll try
tables.
L556[09:59:33] <vifino> i'll try to make
this stuff "realistic".
L557[09:59:43] <gamax92> SolraBizna: I
don't know I'm still reading various 6502 forum fantasy
computers
L558[10:01:17] <gamax92> good news is if I
get the core working, and I've made decent progress, I can drop my
memory mapper and memory copier stuff
L559[10:04:04] <Forecaster>
test!
<Forecaster>
test!L560[10:04:20] <Forecaster> dammit
L561[10:04:32] <20kdc>
Which side are you on, Forecaster? This reality, or that one?
<20kdc>
Which side are you on, Forecaster? This reality, or that one?L562[10:04:35] <vifino> i can implement a
vt100-like term and other useful stuff probably quite easily, but
for the actual computers i need a clock signal. i don't know what
to expect in terms of speed, i don't think a few mhz is something
it'll handle. hopefully it can handle a kilohertz.
L563[10:04:55] <Forecaster> I exist in
multiple dimensions
L564[10:06:25] <20kdc>
vifino: Digilines operates at infinite speed, mesecons... I'm not
sure, but I wouldn't be surprised if you could find a way to make
that operate at infinite speed too.
<20kdc>
vifino: Digilines operates at infinite speed, mesecons... I'm not
sure, but I wouldn't be surprised if you could find a way to make
that operate at infinite speed too.L565[10:06:41] <20kdc> It's
quite worrying, actually, since it means any mod which half-bakes
it's integration can cause a feedback loop
<20kdc> It's
quite worrying, actually, since it means any mod which half-bakes
it's integration can cause a feedback loopL566[10:10:14]
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L568[10:10:36] <Kodos> Okay, well
then
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L570[10:11:13] <Forecaster>
marbles.
<Forecaster>
marbles.L571[10:11:22] <Forecaster>
yay
<Forecaster>
yayL572[10:11:34] <Forecaster> though now all
Discord uses look like ops :P
L573[10:11:52] <MGR> hi
Kodos
<MGR> hi
KodosL574[10:12:23] ⇦
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L575[10:14:07] <Forecaster> yay, so now I
can tab complete people on discord with an automatic @ :D
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L579[10:16:16] <Forecaster> well, only if
they've said something
L580[10:16:21] <Forecaster> but
still
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L582[10:19:49] <Kodos>
Okay, just gonna not have IRC on for now. My internet keeps going
in and out
<Kodos>
Okay, just gonna not have IRC on for now. My internet keeps going
in and outL583[10:20:09] <Kodos> I'm
not sure what the issue is, but if it persists into my meeting
today at noon, I am going to hunt down the AT&T tech that's
messing with my shit and beat the shit out of him
<Kodos> I'm
not sure what the issue is, but if it persists into my meeting
today at noon, I am going to hunt down the AT&T tech that's
messing with my shit and beat the shit out of himL584[10:20:42] <MGR> sounds
about right
<MGR> sounds
about rightL585[10:20:50] <Mettaton_Fab> good
decision.
L586[10:21:10] <SolraBizna> just become
super-rich and buy your own fiber
L587[10:21:27] <Kodos> I
support my wife and myself on about 730 USD a month, super rich
isn't gonna happen anytime this lifetime
<Kodos> I
support my wife and myself on about 730 USD a month, super rich
isn't gonna happen anytime this lifetimeL588[10:21:50] <MGR> got
any rich relatives?
<MGR> got
any rich relatives?L589[10:21:58] <MGR> and
forgery/assasination skills?
<MGR> and
forgery/assasination skills?L590[10:22:56] <SolraBizna>
below-the-poverty-line-high-five!
L591[10:38:25] <Kodos> I'm
below the line below the poverty line
<Kodos> I'm
below the line below the poverty lineL592[10:39:00] <SolraBizna> are you using
SNAP?
L593[10:43:42] <SolraBizna> it's not much,
but it meant me getting mild scurvy briefly once a year instead of
just... having it
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L596[10:56:56] <MGR> If I
release a program to OPPM, is it in the public domain, or can I
have a license for it?
<MGR> If I
release a program to OPPM, is it in the public domain, or can I
have a license for it?L597[10:57:32] <SolraBizna> presumably you
can have a license, as long as it's consistent with being used on
OPPM
L598[10:58:04] <MGR>
what?
<MGR>
what?L599[10:58:18] <MGR>
Meaning I can have a license, so long as it allows distribution
through OPPM?
<MGR>
Meaning I can have a license, so long as it allows distribution
through OPPM?L600[10:58:22] <SolraBizna> yes
L601[10:58:33] <MGR>
ok
<MGR>
okL602[11:01:57] <MGR> I'm
interested in releasing Bagel 1.2.1 which has 3 functions
now!
<MGR> I'm
interested in releasing Bagel 1.2.1 which has 3 functions
now!L603[11:02:02] <MGR> toast,
untoast, and glutenous
<MGR> toast,
untoast, and glutenousL604[11:02:21] <MGR>
because all the functions are named after bagel stuff XD
<MGR>
because all the functions are named after bagel stuff XDL605[11:02:27] <MGR>
anyways, gtg, I'll be back
<MGR>
anyways, gtg, I'll be backL607[11:25:55] *
Temia mu 'w'
L608[11:28:26] <Forecaster> :>
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L611[11:52:31] <Corded> * MGR buys Temia a
HappyCow brush thing
L612[11:52:42] *
Temia leans against it and tailswishes. =w=
L613[12:07:33] <S3> Hey MGR
L614[12:16:39] <MGR> hey
S3
<MGR> hey
S3L615[12:38:10] <S3> how's it going?
L616[12:45:59] <MGR> S3,
pretty solid
<MGR> S3,
pretty solidL617[12:46:39] <MGR>
reading, and doing a little Factory Idle
<MGR>
reading, and doing a little Factory IdleL618[12:59:31]
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L620[13:24:31] <vifino> dammit, i made a
lazy loading thing for my highly modular base mod for minetest, but
mod security does not like loading things, apparently. :|
L621[13:24:36] <S3> TIL event.timer
L622[13:24:39] <S3> never had to use it
ever
L623[13:24:43] <S3> odd eh?
L624[13:26:09] ***
Gavle is now known as Gavle|Away
L625[13:29:53] *
cloakable deploys coffee next to Temia
L626[13:30:08] *
Temia slurp
L627[13:30:14] <cloakable> :D
L628[13:30:56] <cloakable> Also: huzzah,
oc-minecarts 1.10.2 port continues
L629[13:35:24] <S3> I didn't know there
was an oc-minecarts
L630[13:35:28] <S3> what's so special
about em?
L631[13:36:20] <Xal> they're
computery
L632[13:38:04] <Xal> http://hastebin.com/raw/ivuzaboguk
L633[13:41:59] <S3> AHA
L634[13:42:05] <S3> I have figured it out!
I think
L635[13:42:26] <S3> inter network routing
in OC with Ocranet can actually be made simple..
L636[13:42:41] <S3> I can procedurally
generate UUID length prefixes from UUIDs
L637[13:42:54] <Xal> what is ocranet
L638[13:42:57] <S3> without worrying about
UUIDs being all over the place
L639[13:43:16] <S3> my networking
protocol
L640[13:43:24] <Xal> what's cool about
it
L641[13:43:58] <S3> circuit switched,
designed for WANs, not so much for LAN, and created to link
minecraft servers together originally
L642[13:44:16] <S3> it has a PNNI like
protocol for autoconfiguration
L643[13:44:30] <Xal> wait it goes between
servers?
L644[13:44:35] <Xal> is this in-game or
out-of-game
L645[13:44:43] <S3> both
L646[13:44:52] <S3> with Ocranet you
can:
L647[13:45:41] <S3> connect everyone in
your village together, and then connect your village to your
friend's village. Connect your villages to a larger network that
connects to your other galacticcraft bases on other planets.
Connect to your friend's server running Minecraft all the way
accross the world, doing the same thing
L648[13:45:46] <S3> allowing you to form a
large scale network
L649[13:45:59] <S3> while allowing you to:
deploy your own network to your liking in your base, etc
L650[13:46:19] <S3> so that you don't have
to create a 100% ocranet network to have fun
L651[13:46:40] <Xal> cool
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L653[13:47:51] <MGR> S3,
Gavle says he came up with a good idea
<MGR> S3,
Gavle says he came up with a good ideaL654[13:47:56] <S3> I saw
L655[13:48:00] <MGR> For
intra server networking
<MGR> For
intra server networkingL656[13:48:07] <MGR> No
this is an even newer one
<MGR> No
this is an even newer oneL657[13:48:15] <S3> I discovered something
about PNNI that I think I can use
L658[13:48:42] <MGR> Gavle
says his idea is "best idea, bestest innovation"
<MGR> Gavle
says his idea is "best idea, bestest innovation"L659[13:48:54] <S3> when you join a
network; the UUID of your machine is used for terminating
connections, but for routing purposes a number generated from your
UUID is used, and your UUID is used as a link local
L660[13:48:56] <S3> like ipv6
L661[13:49:32] <S3> you know how you have
a link local ipv6 and then when you connect, you assign an address
based on a prefix and your link local
L662[13:49:49] <S3> and your mac
address
L663[13:49:53] <S3> well in OC
L664[13:50:01] <S3> we can use the UUID as
a drop in replacement for the mac address
L665[13:50:05] <S3> er
L666[13:50:07] <S3> link local
L667[13:50:25] <S3> and then switches
amongst networks are provided a "prefix"
L668[13:50:38] <S3> we can still sit DNS /
telephone numbers on top of this
L669[13:50:44] <S3> but the routing would
be prefix based
L670[13:50:59] <S3> if you connect to
another network, all you gotta do is change your prefix to
comply
L671[13:51:08] <S3> and all of the higher
level addresses will remain the same :D
L672[13:52:26] <Xal> my friend had a
network where every computer could talk with every other computer's
peripherals
L673[13:52:46] <Xal> 10/10 security
L674[13:52:48] <S3> yep
L675[13:52:58] <S3> it'sMC
L676[13:53:01] <S3> security is
overrated
L677[13:53:02] <S3> :LD
L678[13:53:33] <Xal> if i wanted to send
him a message, no problem, i could just hijack his monitor from
across the globe
L679[13:54:58] <S3> :P
L680[13:55:16] <S3> well that would be his
problem
L681[13:55:31] <S3> All I do is make sure
the data gets there
L682[13:58:10] ⇦
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L684[14:06:15] <MGR> S3,
Gavle has a similar idea, I think
<MGR> S3,
Gavle has a similar idea, I thinkL685[14:06:58] <MGR> He
described it as, and I quote, "extension codes AND IPV4
SUBNETTING STRIKES BACK"
<MGR> He
described it as, and I quote, "extension codes AND IPV4
SUBNETTING STRIKES BACK"L686[14:08:30] <cloakable>
S3: belatedly, they're essentially robots but in minecart
form. So you can do stuff like hook up more carts using Railcraft
and use them as smart locomotives, etc.
L687[14:09:38] <CompanionCube> MGR: lol
ipv4
L688[14:10:12] <MGR>
CompanionCube, ikr
<MGR>
CompanionCube, ikrL689[14:11:18] ⇦
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L690[14:11:33] <cloakable> (I kinda want
to see what sort of shenanigans I can do with a T3 oc-minecart at
some point)
L691[14:12:37] <MGR>
Cloakable, smart bombs
<MGR>
Cloakable, smart bombsL692[14:12:43] <MGR> On
rails
<MGR> On
railsL693[14:13:27] <cloakable> lol
L694[14:13:54] <cloakable> iirc the
minecart can't place blocks
L695[14:14:10] <cloakable> can interact
with inventories/tanks though
L696[14:14:29] <MGR>
Computronics self destruct cards mayhaps
<MGR>
Computronics self destruct cards mayhapsL697[14:14:31] <S3> cloakable: neat
because I used to use steves carts cart detector or something like
that to make trains
L698[14:14:37] <S3> but with OC I can have
train identifiers
L699[14:14:43] <S3> and routing
controllers
L700[14:14:49] <MGR> Plus
there are railcraft tnt carts or something i think
<MGR> Plus
there are railcraft tnt carts or something i thinkL701[14:15:03] <S3> we could use Ocranet
to make the robot OC minecarts carry the packet
L702[14:15:08] <S3> and the train just
follows the path of the packet
L703[14:15:13] <S3> XD
L704[14:15:15] <MGR>
Latency = great
<MGR>
Latency = greatL705[14:15:22] <MGR> Sub
milisecond
<MGR> Sub
milisecondL706[14:15:22] <S3> yeah but think about
it
L707[14:15:28] <S3> automated trains based
on ping
L708[14:15:30] <S3> :D
L709[14:15:53] <S3> going to mgr's house?
just ping his server on his base
L710[14:15:53] <cloakable> S3: put a
linked card in every train xD
L711[14:15:54] <S3> XD
L712[14:16:00] <S3> that works too
L713[14:16:06] <S3> but why bother
L714[14:16:14] <S3> wouldn't it be better
to use wifi
L715[14:16:20] <S3> so that the train
stations can tell the train what to do
L716[14:16:34] <S3> linked cards are nice
when you need constant communication
L717[14:16:37] <cloakable> You can use
wifi, or you can put in a network card and use a network rail
L718[14:16:44] <S3> but for a train you
don't need to talk often
L719[14:16:54] <S3> network rail?!
L720[14:17:18] <cloakable> yeah, when the
oc-minecart is on it it'll get a network connection
L721[14:17:38] <cloakable> it'll also
recharge the cart, if you configure it to
L722[14:17:53] <S3> here's what you
do!
L723[14:17:56] <S3> you got network
rails
L724[14:18:03] <S3> and then on the robot
cart you hist a wifi AP
L725[14:18:07] <S3> so that customers get
free wifi
L726[14:18:13] <S3> rofl
L727[14:18:23] <S3> but no in all
honesty
L728[14:18:26] <cloakable> fires off an
event too, so you can listen for when you have network access and
do stuff :D
L729[14:18:39] <S3> what do you think?
wouldn't it be neat to route the paths of trains just by using your
existing inter-town networking system?
L730[14:18:43] <S3> system*
L731[14:18:57] <MGR> Why
have free wifi when you can have paid wifi?
<MGR> Why
have free wifi when you can have paid wifi?L732[14:19:06] <S3> and it would always
take the shortest route
L733[14:19:17] <S3> you can force it to
stop at certain locations by stacking stops
L734[14:19:24] <S3> which are just
addresses of the stations
L735[14:19:25] <cloakable> True, but if
you have trains, you have railcraft, and then you have routing.
plus, in 1.10.2 you have Signals for routing too.
L736[14:19:34] <S3> no no no
L737[14:19:44] <S3> I'm talking about
massive long distance complex routing
L738[14:19:52] <S3> stuff that's a pain at
least to me with railcraft stuff
L739[14:21:15] <S3> it makes it nice when
each station has an address
L740[14:21:19] <S3> and every train has an
address
L741[14:21:27] <S3> and you can just
easily log in to them and change their routes on the fly
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L743[14:22:29] <cloakable> Could be done,
but Signals covers that use-case :D
L744[14:22:46] <gamax92> soundcloud is
good for music
L745[14:23:03] <S3> does but I'd still
prefer to make it part of the primary network
L746[14:23:21] <S3> especially since then
you could develop a web page showing all the goods going back and
forth between your factories
L747[14:23:22] <S3> :D
L748[14:23:45] <cloakable> again, Signals
has you covered xD
L749[14:23:53] <S3> not enough!
L750[14:26:03] <cloakable> long-distance
complex routing, tick. on the fly changes, tick. map showing the
network and trains on it, check. xD
L751[14:27:05] <S3> I am aware, signals
are powerful, but some things are just easier to me to deal
witrh
L752[14:27:31] <cloakable> No, I mean
Signals. It's a mod by MineMaarten xD
L753[14:28:13] <cloakable> I plan on
having Railcraft signals too, but that's because they're pretty
:D
L754[14:29:01] <S3> I see.
L755[14:29:25] <Forecaster> it works like
factorio signals sort of
L756[14:29:27] <S3> well I'm sure the
servers I play on don't have it
L757[14:30:06] <cloakable> 1.10.2
servers?
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L759[14:32:48] <cloakable> I'm really
looking forward to Railcraft being more complete for 1.10.2 though.
Missing a lot of stuff
L760[14:35:56] <S3> I really like
trains
L761[14:36:13] <S3> but unfortunately I
find they work much better as a subway system
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L763[14:36:33] <S3> for some reason my
locomotives have always tend to break randomly in the past above
ground
L764[14:36:52] <S3> like they'd hit a rail
just right and then BAM!
L765[14:36:54] <S3> explosion
L766[14:37:10] <S3> on a slope
L767[14:37:47] <cloakable> I've never used
high speed rails myself
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L769[14:38:01] <S3> oh no not those
L770[14:38:03] <S3> those are SCARY
L771[14:38:10] <S3> I'm just talking about
the locomotives
L772[14:38:18] <cloakable> I do plan on
using reinforced electric track now that that is a thing
L773[14:38:34] <S3> high speed rails are
fun but holy shit they have even more problems..
L774[14:38:34] <cloakable> ahhh
L775[14:38:41] <S3> I've gotten them to
explode even on flat track
L776[14:38:49] <S3> but usually they are
fine
L777[14:39:05] <cloakable> yeah,
oc-minecarts make a fine locomotive replacement :D
L778[14:39:19] <S3> they do? I saw they
can use energy
L779[14:39:25] <S3> I dunno how well
though and for how far
L780[14:39:35] <S3> I like to live far
away from people
L781[14:39:47] <S3> one server I had was
30 kilometers from some otrhers
L782[14:39:50] <S3> for my base
L783[14:40:04] <S3> we had a train between
it that refuled every 10km
L784[14:40:18] <S3> (locomotive)
L785[14:40:24] <cloakable> Stick in a
solar generator, coal generator, and battery, and it'll go a good
long way. they can recharge from electric track, too.
L786[14:40:25] <vifino> 10kdc: Found a
solution to my problem, minetest.get_node_timer!
L787[14:40:45] <S3> hmm
L788[14:40:47] <S3> neat
L789[14:40:48] <vifino> High resolution
persistant per-node timer \o/
L790[14:43:43] <cloakable> I have a script
written for my carts that will pop fuel into the generator whenever
the power hits below 25%
L791[14:44:52] <cloakable> Just pop coal
coke blocks into the inventory, and it'll go for ages with a solar
upgrade too
L792[14:44:53] <S3> while the train is
moving?!
L793[14:44:57] <cloakable> yup
L794[14:45:05] <S3> I'd like to see that
lol
L795[14:45:13] <cloakable> gimme a
mo
L796[14:46:19] <S3> http://a2.files.biography.com/image/upload/c_fill,cs_srgb,dpr_1.0,g_face,h_300,q_80,w_300/MTE5NTU2MzE2MDMwNjY2MjUx.jpg
L797[14:46:22] <S3> there you go
L798[14:46:32] <S3> I gave you a moe
L799[14:49:20] <cloakable>
S3: http://pastebin.com/yCs8VHAV here we go
L800[14:50:31] <cloakable> and derp, it's
still set at the high target I used for testing
L801[14:51:01] <MGR>
Cloakable, you solved a problem I had
<MGR>
Cloakable, you solved a problem I hadL802[14:51:20] <MGR> I had
no clue how to use event.listen without the function embedded in
it
<MGR> I had
no clue how to use event.listen without the function embedded in
itL803[14:51:20] <cloakable> Oh?
L804[14:51:31] <cloakable> huzzah
\o/
L805[14:51:39] <MGR>
Yeah!
<MGR>
Yeah!L806[14:51:45] ⇦
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L807[14:51:51] <MGR> Thanks
m8
<MGR> Thanks
m8L808[14:51:54] <S3> wot
L809[14:52:18] <cloakable> MGR, np
L810[14:52:34] <Z0idburg>
WOOP WOOP WOOP
<Z0idburg>
WOOP WOOP WOOPL811[14:53:01] <MGR>
?
<MGR>
?L813[14:54:23] <MichiBot> Zoidberg Woop
Woop Woop! | length: 10s | Likes: 1,570 Dislikes: 35 Views: 450,176 | by Best Viral
Videos | Published On 28/12/2013
L814[14:54:43] <MGR>
??
<MGR>
??L815[14:55:05] <Z0idburg>
^^^
<Z0idburg>
^^^L816[14:56:06] <MGR> Why
the whooping???
<MGR> Why
the whooping???L817[14:56:28] <Z0idburg>
Because the three stooges
<Z0idburg>
Because the three stoogesL818[14:56:38] <MGR>
Ah
<MGR>
AhL819[14:56:41] <Z0idburg>
S3 gave him a moe
<Z0idburg>
S3 gave him a moeL820[14:56:47] <Z0idburg>
that's moe from the three stooges
<Z0idburg>
that's moe from the three stoogesL821[14:56:56] <MGR> I'm
aware
<MGR> I'm
awareL822[14:57:00] <cloakable>
S3: basically, the doRecharge function fires in two different
situations: every five seconds on a timer, and every time the cart
arrives at a network rail. if the energy target is below
energyTarget and it's on a rail, it'll stop until recharged to that
target, then continue. otherwise it'll check to see if there's fuel
in the generator and pop one in if there isn't.
L823[14:57:01] <Z0idburg>
okay just making sure
<Z0idburg>
okay just making sureL824[14:58:19] ⇦
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L825[14:58:33] <cloakable> I really should
split energyTarget into energyMin and energyTarget though
L826[15:00:37] <Z0idburg>
WAT
<Z0idburg>
WATL827[15:01:19] <Z0idburg>
energyOver9000
<Z0idburg>
energyOver9000L828[15:02:01] <cloakable> heh
L829[15:02:55] <cloakable> even a tier 1
battery holds over 9000 energy, bad target :P
L830[15:04:03] <Z0idburg>
ITS OVER 9000!
<Z0idburg>
ITS OVER 9000!L831[15:04:28] <cloakable> NINE
THOUSAND
L832[15:06:29] <MGR>
NINE
<MGR>
NINEL833[15:06:35] <MGR>
THOU
<MGR>
THOUL834[15:06:40] <MGR>
SAND
<MGR>
SANDL835[15:06:43] <MGR>
OVER
<MGR>
OVERL836[15:07:21] <cloakable> lmao
L837[15:07:46] <cloakable> but yeah,
background processes are great :D
L838[15:11:53] <MGR>
Cloakable, I love background processes
<MGR>
Cloakable, I love background processesL839[15:11:56] <MGR> So
useful
<MGR> So
usefulL840[15:12:07] <cloakable> yeah :D
L841[15:12:29] <cloakable> I wrote one for
my IE diesel generators too
L842[15:12:58] <MGR>
Kewl
<MGR>
KewlL843[15:14:32] <cloakable> Next up I'll
probably expand it to integrate an Extreme Reactors setup as
well.
L844[15:16:11] <cloakable> Have a few
passive reactors going :D
L845[15:18:11] <MGR>
Cloakable, what is Extreme Reactors?
<MGR>
Cloakable, what is Extreme Reactors?L846[15:18:27] <cloakable> the 1.10.2 port
of Big Reactors
L847[15:20:14] <MGR>
OH
<MGR>
OHL848[15:20:16] <MGR>
MAN
<MGR>
MANL849[15:20:29] <MGR> I have
been waiting for that
<MGR> I have
been waiting for thatL850[15:20:38] <MGR> *hurls
confetti*
<MGR> *hurls
confetti*L851[15:23:39] <cloakable> No enderium
though, so ludicrite is going to be a pain to get for turbines
xD
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L853[15:26:24] <cloakable> Powergen may
well be a lot of passive, some reactors, and a big bank of diesel
generators.
L854[15:28:20] <cloakable> with the
reactors and generators computer controlled :D
L855[15:28:43] <S3> just make a giant
waterwheel array
L856[15:28:45] <S3> infinite energy
L857[15:31:42] <cloakable> nah,
aesthetics! going to have windmills in an extreme hills
L858[15:37:50] <cloakable> Have a few
hundred RF/t passive, then a few reactors to provide larger
powergen
L859[15:39:42] <Temia> Ooh, how are you
doing the wiring?
L860[15:40:13] <Temia> Also, shame about
the enderium, that's what I used for my gas-fired turbine.
L861[15:41:42] <cloakable> Going to run IE
wiring for most things! Mixing LV/MV/HV as required.
L862[15:43:19] <cloakable> I may also put
up a lightning rod, just for the chance at 12mRF
L863[15:47:13] <MGR>
Cloakable looking to go back in time with 1.21 jigawatts?
<MGR>
Cloakable looking to go back in time with 1.21 jigawatts?L864[15:47:43] <cloakable> I already have
a TARDIS on my 1.7.10 server :P
L865[15:48:32] <MGR> Which
doctor is your favorite?
<MGR> Which
doctor is your favorite?L866[15:48:59] <cloakable> None, I like
them all :D
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L868[15:51:13] <TheCryptek> %seen
TheFox
L869[15:51:14] <MichiBot> TheCryptek:
TheFox was last seen 58d 6h 39m 41s ago.
L870[15:51:50] <MGR> Hi
TheCryptek
<MGR> Hi
TheCryptekL871[15:51:55] <MGR> Long
time no see
<MGR> Long
time no seeL872[15:51:59] <TheCryptek> MGR:
Hello?
L873[15:52:08] <MGR>
Cloakable, you gave an eh answer
<MGR>
Cloakable, you gave an eh answerL874[15:52:13] <TheCryptek> I have no idea
who you are?
L875[15:52:16] <MGR> David
Tennant is the correct one
<MGR> David
Tennant is the correct oneL876[15:52:38] <MGR>
TheCryptek, if I was easily offended, you would have made the
mark
<MGR>
TheCryptek, if I was easily offended, you would have made the
markL877[15:52:53] <MGR> You
played on my server a short time, and we've talked in the
past
<MGR> You
played on my server a short time, and we've talked in the
pastL878[15:52:54] <TheCryptek> I don't
remember anyone by MGR
L879[15:53:03] <TheCryptek> Oh okay, you
are under a new nick.
L880[15:53:04] <MGR>
MajGenRelativity
<MGR>
MajGenRelativityL881[15:53:09] <TheCryptek> I'm sorry
:P
L882[15:53:20] <MGR>
Involuntarily....
<MGR>
Involuntarily....L883[15:53:27] <MGR> They
shortened it on me
<MGR> They
shortened it on meL884[15:53:28] <S3> Anyone know how OC
generates its' UUIDs?
L885[15:53:35] <S3> it doesn't appear to
be a function of time..
L886[15:53:48] <S3> they seem more random
than a UUID I am familiar with
L887[15:54:02] <TheCryptek> MGR: Have you
heard from TheFox recently?
L888[15:54:14] <20kdc> S3:
Probably involves random numbers, hashes, random numbers and
hashes, and someone saying "See? 'Armless. *waves plastic
arm*". Checking now...
<20kdc> S3:
Probably involves random numbers, hashes, random numbers and
hashes, and someone saying "See? 'Armless. *waves plastic
arm*". Checking now...L889[15:54:48] <Skye> S3, probably Scala
or Java APIs
L890[15:54:57] <S3> yeah..
L891[15:55:08] <Skye> #p
L892[15:55:09] <S3> part of the uniqueness
is from being a function of time though
L893[15:55:13] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
Timeout.
L894[15:55:20] <Skye> meh
L895[15:55:24] <S3> oh well
L896[15:56:21] <MGR>
TheCryptek, no
<MGR>
TheCryptek, noL897[15:56:23] <S3> So I am creating a
link local format for these UUIDs
L898[15:56:26] <MGR> Not in
a long time
<MGR> Not in
a long timeL899[15:56:28] <S3> for the network
L900[15:56:45] <MGR> @20kdc
Intruder, how did you get in?
<MGR> @20kdc
Intruder, how did you get in?L901[15:56:46] <S3> I need to come up with
a prefix standard
L902[15:56:52] <TheCryptek> MGR: Alright,
I'm starting tow orry about him, he hasn't been on kik or anything.
He is part of my dev team.
L903[15:56:54] <MGR> In Tru
da window
<MGR> In Tru
da windowL904[15:56:57] <S3> MGR still on
yuon?
L905[15:57:14] <MGR> S3, it
still exists, yes
<MGR> S3, it
still exists, yesL906[15:57:26] <MGR>
TheCryptek, what are you deving?
<MGR>
TheCryptek, what are you deving?L907[15:58:02] <TheCryptek> MGR: Anything
and everything, right now a Linux OS, which is why I'm trying to
contact TheFox. He vanished right before the project started.
L908[16:01:19] <MGR>
Ah
<MGR>
AhL909[16:03:25] <20kdc> task
completed.
<20kdc> task
completed.L910[16:03:26] <20kdc>
https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/blob/06e7149573cc310254b691b3944eeb5d99619ff8/src/main/scala/li/cil/oc/server/network/Network.scala#L222
<20kdc>
https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/blob/06e7149573cc310254b691b3944eeb5d99619ff8/src/main/scala/li/cil/oc/server/network/Network.scala#L222L911[16:03:52] <20kdc> S3,
you have your answer as to where addresses come from. I
think.
<20kdc> S3,
you have your answer as to where addresses come from. I
think.L912[16:05:12] <20kdc>
Also, someone should tell whoever made both an api.Network and an
api.network.Network class... that people don't appreciate that kind
of humor. Z.
<20kdc>
Also, someone should tell whoever made both an api.Network and an
api.network.Network class... that people don't appreciate that kind
of humor. Z.L913[16:06:38] <S3> lol
L914[16:09:56] <20kdc> And
the OpenComputers response to a conflict is to push one device or
the other out of the way, probably non-deterministically. So, uh,
don't have conflicts.
<20kdc> And
the OpenComputers response to a conflict is to push one device or
the other out of the way, probably non-deterministically. So, uh,
don't have conflicts.L915[16:24:01] ***
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L917[16:28:42] <MGR> S3,
don't invest too much time in your UUIDs
<MGR> S3,
don't invest too much time in your UUIDsL918[16:28:59] <MGR> Gavle
still needs to tell you his best idea and bestest innovation
<MGR> Gavle
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L921[16:46:33] <CompanionCube> S3's idea
is most likely better
L922[16:46:47] <CompanionCube> I'm willing
to bet 100 internet points on it.
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L930[17:07:32] <MGR>
CompanionCube, I think Gavle may disagree
<MGR>
CompanionCube, I think Gavle may disagreeL931[17:07:52] <MGR> In
case you weren't sure, he thinks his idea is pretty good
<MGR> In
case you weren't sure, he thinks his idea is pretty goodL932[17:10:09]
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L933[17:11:40] <Inari> http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=816684483
Oh you think?
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L936[18:04:30] <Caitlyn> I just lost yet
ANOTHER monitor
L937[18:04:47] <gamax92> :(
L938[18:04:51] <Caitlyn> Or well, it's
going out very quickly
L939[18:05:00] <Caitlyn> backlight on it
too
L940[18:05:10] <Caitlyn> and I don't have
the caps in stock at work for it I know
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L943[18:21:38] <|0x21524110|> Anyone else
noticing a distance lack of pictures loading on the forums?
L944[18:22:17] <Caitlyn> |0x21524110|, I
can't say that I am... link?
L945[18:23:21] <|0x21524110|> That
leadcraft server has a crap ton of unloaded images
L946[18:23:47] <|0x21524110|> I swear
there is another few examples but I can't find them
L947[18:23:49] <Caitlyn> http://leadcraft.us/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Banner_Large_Static.png
yeah
L948[18:23:52] <Caitlyn> so that's an
issue on their end
L949[18:25:03] <|0x21524110|> Alright I
just have been noticing a lot of big unloaded images. Maybe I'm
blending a few sites together.
L950[18:25:12] <Caitlyn> Lizzy, commented
on the thread in July.. saying that their images were broken
L951[18:25:13] <|0x21524110|> That and the
fact they are ugly and stick in my brains
L952[18:25:41] <Caitlyn> every thread I'm
checking is fine
L953[18:27:04] <|0x21524110|> I might be
blending a few sites together
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L956[18:31:20] <|0x21524110|> I think I
want to play on a minecraft server but I think I don't.
L957[18:45:43] <Inari> https://i.imgur.com/E1kZz3L.jpg but why
L958[18:54:12] <gamax92> Inari: reach in
and grab one
L959[18:54:28] <Caitlyn> One day I will
figure out why my laptop can run linux for months at a time
L960[18:54:33] <Inari> I don't even really
like skittles
L961[18:54:34] <Caitlyn> but can't do 24
horus on windows
L962[18:55:08] <|0x21524110|> Linux can
run for decades
L963[18:55:13] <gamax92> Caitlyn:
overclocked laptop?
L964[18:55:19] <Caitlyn> nopre
L965[18:55:21] <Caitlyn> nope*
L966[18:55:24] <|0x21524110|> Windows has
recently been patched so it doesn't crasher after 150 days
L967[18:56:06] <gamax92> "After
exactly 49.7 days of continuous operation, your Windows 95-based
computer may stop responding,"
L968[18:56:46] <Caitlyn> but yeah, Lenovo
E545, friend gave it to me, I replaced the screen in it tossed
windows on it, and it kept randomly just powering off
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L970[18:57:23] <Colink02> hello?
L971[18:57:24] <gamax92> ouch, suspend /
power saving failure?
L972[18:57:25] <Caitlyn> I was a bit
pissed to have just sunk the money in a screen for a bork laptop..
I tossed Xubuntu on it and it's never powered off
L973[18:57:29] <Caitlyn> Hello
L974[18:57:32] <gamax92> Good day
L975[18:57:39] <Caitlyn> gamax92, no idea,
just *click* off
L976[18:57:54] <gamax92> Well I guess you
got a linux laptop then
L977[18:57:59] <gamax92> but yeah,
odd
L978[18:58:03] <Colink02> i need help with
this working with computronics
L979[18:58:10] <Caitlyn> it *might* set
for 20 of those 4 hours doing nothing, it might do it in the middle
of doing something
L980[18:58:17] <Caitlyn> s/set/sit/
L981[18:58:17] <MichiBot> <Caitlyn>
it *might* sit for 20 of those 4 hours doing nothing, it might do
it in the middle of doing something
L982[18:58:26] <gamax92> huh
L983[18:58:29] <Caitlyn> errr and 20 of
those 24*
L984[18:59:06] <gamax92> Colink02: go on
...
L985[18:59:14] <gamax92> can't help you if
you never actually state a problem
L986[18:59:34] <Caitlyn> I mean I don't
really mind, I like Linux, and being on my laptop is great as it
means I can play and not bork my main machine
L987[18:59:36] <Colink02> i want to use
the chat box to open up my base when i say something like
open
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L989[19:01:34] <gamax92> chat boxes send a
"chat_message" event when it receives a message
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L991[19:02:55] <Colink02> yeah but how do
i make a program for that i haven't learned much about the
event.pull
L992[19:04:20] <Colink02> so could you
help me
L993[19:05:52] <gamax92> Well, you can use
event.pull like: local event_name, address, username, message =
event.pull("chat_message") iirc
L994[19:06:31] <Colink02> ok could you
like give me a full example?
L995[19:07:40] <gamax92> no not really, I
have no idea how your base is hooked up to the computer
L996[19:08:21] <Colink02> redstone
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L998[19:12:15] <Colink02> ...
L999[19:12:23] <gamax92> Colink02:
http://hastebin.com/ziwuxedexo.lua something like
this
L1000[19:12:57] <Colink02> thanks mate
:)
L1001[19:27:29] <Colink02> how could i
add a player to it so it me or that person
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L1004[19:34:38] <Colink02> thanks
:)
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L1007[19:56:34] <Desv>
Is ``localhost`` blacklisted for Internet component?
<Desv>
Is ``localhost`` blacklisted for Internet component?L1008[19:59:34] <|0x21524110|> Yes
L1009[19:59:43] <|0x21524110|> By default
anything local network is blacklisted
L1010[20:00:05] <|0x21524110|> Safety
feature
L1011[20:00:34] <Caitlyn> yeah you can
remove it in the OC config
L1012[20:01:26] <|0x21524110|> Localhost
would just resolve to 127.0.0.1 no?
L1013[20:02:03] <|0x21524110|> I don't
think it's considered a "hostname"
L1014[20:02:49] <Desv>
Thanks!
<Desv>
Thanks!L1015[20:03:29]
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L1016[20:03:49] <|0x21524110|>
127.0.0.0/8 a local thing or just 127.0.0.0/24?
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L1018[20:05:02] <|0x21524110|> I guess it
is. Things you learn.
L1019[20:07:11] <Colink02> lol
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L1021[20:07:50] <Colink02> what the color
code for red in the colorful lamp
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L1029[21:05:09] <S3> so I have it
L1030[21:05:19] <S3> 200 trillion
something addresses per LAN
L1031[21:05:24] <S3> is that enough
guys?
L1032[21:05:32] <S3> for Ocranet
L1033[21:06:24] <S3> so a UUID like
a313d496-8cb7-48c8-83c1-276b49a440d5
L1034[21:07:41] <S3> nvm 4 billion itl
become
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L1036[21:07:50] <S3> it's gonna be
backwards
L1037[21:08:07] <S3> so
a313d496-8cb7-48c8-83c1-276b49a440d5 may be an address
L1038[21:08:13] <S3> er a UUID
L1039[21:08:29] <S3> ]butg the left 8
nibbles are used for the end machine
L1040[21:08:45] <S3> those are the least
significant in a UUID generated around time
L1041[21:09:00] <S3> the entire rest is
used for the network prefix
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L1044[21:12:44] <S3> so how do you want
to do this
L1045[21:16:34] <S3> I see the
issue
L1046[21:16:38] <S3> OC uses UUID
v4
L1047[21:16:45] <S3> that's why it's not
the same
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L1052[21:54:33] <S3> https://nopaste.me/view/d7785253
L1053[21:54:39] <S3> CompanionCube: wanna
check that out sometime?
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L1055[21:54:53] <S3> and YES we still
have phone numvers
L1056[21:55:00] <S3> just this is how the
OSPF like stuff works
L1057[21:55:03] <S3> for dynamic
routing
L1058[21:55:28] *
CompanionCube is currently dealing with firefox being a laggy piece
of shit
L1059[21:55:40] <CompanionCube> S3: so
this would be like a L2 or similar address
L1060[21:57:04] <S3> yeah, it's meant for
switches to find eachother and stuff
L1061[21:57:28] <S3> all you do as the
network engineer / isp is giv eit a prefix which, because of my
setup, can be a heiarchi OR all the fuck over the place
L1062[21:57:36] <S3> but I recommend
making it make at least some sense..
L1063[21:58:35] <S3> CompanionCube: the
idea is that also for security purposes, you can set your OCR
switch in "network" or "subnet" mode
L1064[21:58:40] <S3> useful for big
WANs
L1065[21:58:48] <S3> in network mode the
subnet is completely ignored
L1066[21:59:00] <S3> and it will only
store network prefixes in the table for super fast switching
L1067[21:59:02] <S3> :D
L1068[21:59:19] <S3> use this only for
those WANs that speak only to WANs..
L1069[21:59:21] <DFrostedWang> Hey,
general minecraft question, anyone know of a way to disable
double-tap-to-sprint?
L1070[21:59:38] <S3> Not sure
L1071[22:00:53] <S3> DFrostedWang: make a
mod!
L1072[22:01:27] <S3> CompanionCube: ATM
does the same thing
L1073[22:01:35] <S3> end hosts use phone
numbers and stuff
L1074[22:01:37] <DFrostedWang> well, no,
but if it existed I'd love to know
L1075[22:01:37] <CompanionCube> S3: so
what will the to-level network nodes be like
L1076[22:01:43] <S3> but all of the
internal switches kinda use their own namespace
L1077[22:01:51] <DFrostedWang> if not I
guess I'll just give up 'cause making a mod would take waaay more
time than I have
L1078[22:02:05] <S3> you mean UNI? User
-> Network
L1079[22:02:14] <CompanionCube> I
mean
L1080[22:02:36] <CompanionCube> the shit
that's at the core of the network
L1081[22:04:28] <S3> ah NNI
L1082[22:04:55] <S3> so the network card
has a UUID
L1083[22:05:08] <S3> which by that paste
I showed you it generates a link local address using that
method
L1084[22:05:31] <S3> then it does what
IPv6 does, it sends out a neighbor discovery saying, does anyone
have this address?
L1085[22:06:14] <S3> and it waits. If
there's no response, it takes it. if there is, then it generates a
random address for the host part of the link local and tries again
until it finds an unused one.
L1086[22:07:06] <S3> CompanionCube: once
this happens, a hello like protocol is used to announce itself
officially on the network. this is used to allow switches to know
of eachothers' prescence
L1087[22:08:01] <S3> other switches on
the network then reply to this node and offer to share its routing
table, and information about the topology of the network
L1088[22:08:20] <S3> this allows switches
to have an idea of the routing of a neighboring network on another
switch.
L1089[22:10:07] <S3> this process will be
sort of locked up a bit- in the event of a non heiarchcal network,
only so much of the routing recursively will be stored in the event
that the network is very large
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L1091[22:10:40] <S3> this means that
longer distance travels will likely take longer to form, however
each switch will cache routes for a short time to make this very
quick for common routes.
L1092[22:11:03] <S3> CompanionCube:
concerns? also concerns about the addressing format for NNI
use?
L1093[22:11:22] <CompanionCube> none, and
brb
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L1097[22:27:43] <Luchong> hey guys, is there anyone I can
ask a question about the OC API to?
<Luchong> hey guys, is there anyone I can
ask a question about the OC API to?L1098[22:28:00] <S3> I think the 6 octets
part for hosts is nice because it gives you a lot of hosts and also
it is the same length as a MAC address
L1099[22:28:03] <S3> so it's not way too
long
L1100[22:28:15] <S3> Luchong just
ask?
L1101[22:28:23] <Caitlyn> @Luchong just
ask
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L1104[22:33:17] <Luchong> ok, so I created a block with a
MachineHost tileentity and i was wonering if it is possible to have
something like an "internal screen component" so that if
I right click my block it would show the GUI that OC uses without
the need of an actual OC screen
<Luchong> ok, so I created a block with a
MachineHost tileentity and i was wonering if it is possible to have
something like an "internal screen component" so that if
I right click my block it would show the GUI that OC uses without
the need of an actual OC screenL1105[22:34:04] <Luchong> im a newbie, by the way, as you
can see
<Luchong> im a newbie, by the way, as you
can seeL1106[22:34:30]
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L1107[22:36:50] <Luchong> I used Sangar's machine example
for reference
<Luchong> I used Sangar's machine example
for referenceL1108[22:38:16] <S3> \Luchong yes,
wireless terminals
L1109[22:38:30] <S3> I dunno if they work
outside of a server
L1110[22:38:46] <S3> but yes possible
:)
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L1112[22:45:52] <Luchong> hmm I'm not sure why would I need
a wireless terminal if the my block is the machine itself
<Luchong> hmm I'm not sure why would I need
a wireless terminal if the my block is the machine itselfL1113[22:47:08] <Luchong> right now is working like a
microcontroller but open to external connections
<Luchong> right now is working like a
microcontroller but open to external connectionsL1114[22:47:56] <Luchong> I just want to right click it and
bring up the screen GUI, sorry if I missunderstood you
<Luchong> I just want to right click it and
bring up the screen GUI, sorry if I missunderstood youL1115[22:48:06] <S3> I oh I see
L1116[22:48:37] <S3> I'm pretty ssure you
need a screen component
L1117[22:48:53] <S3> and microcontrollers
can'ttalk to outside components
L1118[22:48:57] <S3> besides
networking
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L1120[22:49:11] <S3> if it can do
that
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L1122[22:50:10] <Luchong> well, its not actually a
microcontroller. Its the block from this example: https://github.com/MightyPirates/OC-Example-Machine
<Luchong> well, its not actually a
microcontroller. Its the block from this example: https://github.com/MightyPirates/OC-Example-MachineL1123[22:51:26] <Luchong> I wanted to extend the example to
have an "internal screen". I added a screen as an
internal component but im not sure how to tell my block to open the
screens gui on right click
<Luchong> I wanted to extend the example to
have an "internal screen". I added a screen as an
internal component but im not sure how to tell my block to open the
screens gui on right clickL1124[22:52:12] <Luchong> maybe its not possible using just
the API
<Luchong> maybe its not possible using just
the APIL1125[23:12:28]
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L1126[23:13:32] <Luchong> anyone knows the ritual to summon
lord Sangar? ?
<Luchong> anyone knows the ritual to summon
lord Sangar? ?L1127[23:16:04]
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Izaya pokes Sangar
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