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L1[00:15:10] <SolraBizna> I can't request a review T_T
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L3[00:23:11] <gamax92> SolraBizna: r.i.p
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L5[00:35:43] <payonel> o/
L6[00:36:06] <payonel> SolraBizna: i am reviewing the code
L7[00:36:09] <SolraBizna> yay
L8[00:38:49] <SolraBizna> one thing I'm considering adding is a "trusted secret"
L9[00:39:02] <SolraBizna> a trusted computer can read it but an untrusted one can't
L10[00:39:21] <payonel> and what would the secret contain?
L11[00:39:24] <SolraBizna> with a trusted secret, data card tier 1 and SHA-256 is enough to set up a signature scheme... without one, a tier 2 data card is required
L12[00:39:40] <payonel> ah
L13[00:40:14] <payonel> a type of ... op, so to say
L14[00:40:28] <SolraBizna> ?
L15[00:40:41] <payonel> the ability to add to the whitelist?
L16[00:40:49] <payonel> the 'signature scheme' in the whitelist of hashes?
L17[00:41:00] <SolraBizna> Sort of
L18[00:41:18] <SolraBizna> More or less
L19[00:41:19] <payonel> that's all i meant
L20[00:41:32] <SolraBizna> I think I have misunderstood you
L21[00:41:48] <payonel> well regardless, let's keep this PR's scope to what it is already
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L23[00:42:08] <SolraBizna> good point
L24[00:42:15] <SolraBizna> though... this is at least on the border of this PR's scope
L25[00:42:16] <payonel> i'm going to be offline soon, but i'll check again on this tomorrow
L26[00:42:24] <SolraBizna> technically I'm offline now
L27[00:42:28] <payonel> tho vex disagrees with you, i think this is an interesting idea, i'm glad you're working on it
L28[00:42:28] <SolraBizna> I went to sleep 20 minutes ago
L29[00:42:36] <payonel> :)
L30[00:42:41] <SolraBizna> He seems to have mostly come around
L31[00:42:52] <SolraBizna> particularly since I made it quite difficult to enable without knowing the consequences :)
L32[00:43:06] <payonel> well, and really bc of gamax92 :)
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L35[00:46:02] <payonel> ok, goodnight
L36[00:46:05] * payonel is afk
L37[00:46:14] <SolraBizna> Night
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L53[02:49:57] <Forecaster> Marbles
L54[03:12:36] <gamax92> There, written up a bunch of plans for tommorrow
L55[03:19:16] <gamax92> :/ I'm about to head to bed and the update manager is like, 80 updates available now!
L56[03:34:17] *** alfw is now known as alfw|Off
L57[03:56:28] <Forecaster> woo, second engine line is up and running
L58[03:56:34] <Forecaster> it was a tight squeeze fitting it in
L59[03:57:33] <Forecaster> https://i.imgur.com/G7AJGom.png
L60[03:57:41] <Forecaster> Factory #1 (/2)
L61[04:01:11] <Forecaster> hrm
L62[04:01:29] <Forecaster> at the current rate getting 20bil research points is going to take 40 days
L63[04:01:31] <Forecaster> :|
L64[04:07:05] <Forecaster> and I produce 800 rs points per tick
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L68[04:37:33] <neX!Tem> does someone have a link to the issuetracker of opencomputers?
L69[04:38:02] <Lizzy> %issues
L70[04:38:05] <Lizzy> %issue
L71[04:38:05] <MichiBot> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/new
L72[04:38:13] <neX!Tem> amazing. thanks
L73[04:38:14] <Lizzy> ^ without the new at the end
L74[04:39:22] <neX!Tem> thats a lot of issues ... wow
L75[04:42:52] <Forecaster> it's not that amazing :P
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L77[04:48:10] <neX!Tem> it means people care
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L79[04:49:16] <Forecaster> I thought you meant the bot printing the url :P
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L82[05:06:36] * vifino snuggles Lizzy
L83[05:07:11] * Lizzy snuggles vifino
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L87[05:39:01] <Lizzy> ¬_¬
L88[05:39:03] <Lizzy> ffs
L89[05:39:37] <Lizzy> god damn terminal fucking up because of fucking gtk updates or something
L90[05:39:45] * Lizzy continues mumbling to herself
L91[05:46:57] <Lizzy> in other news i just got the ck kernel working
L92[05:47:15] <Lizzy> what they don't mention in the wiki is that it has it's own vmlinuz file
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L95[05:59:04] <Lizzy> CPU~Dual core Intel Core i5-4210H (-HT-MCP-) speed/max~1224/3500 MHz Kernel~4.8.13-2-ck-haswell x86_64 Up~9 min Mem~391.6/15946.4MB HDD~1256.3GB(11.4% used) Procs~159 Client~HexChat 2.12.3 inxi~2.3.4
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L101[06:30:48] <sshika> hello. sorry for yesterday, my connection hascrash
L102[06:36:30] <Forecaster> that's okay
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L109[06:51:03] * Izaya yawns
L110[06:51:08] <Izaya> Lizzy: do you have VT-d?
L111[07:00:59] <Forecaster> hehe http://xkcd.com/1770/
L112[07:01:00] <MichiBot> XKCD Comic Name: UI Change Posted on: 12/9/2016
L113[07:01:04] * Lizzy is not sure
L114[07:01:29] <Lizzy> brb, lemme reboot to the bios setup
L115[07:04:52] <Caitlyn> hey Kodos you around?
L116[07:04:54] <Lizzy> Inari, according to ARK, yes
L117[07:05:08] <Lizzy> though this is a laptop and there's not an option in the bios for it so meh
L118[07:06:16] <Caitlyn> k.. I need to add usage info to OP's xeroex program
L119[07:06:21] <Caitlyn> Or... Kodos does :P
L120[07:07:44] <Forecaster> :O
L121[07:08:53] <Caitlyn> ... I'm slow
L122[07:08:59] <Caitlyn> couldn't copy a file from bin to home..
L123[07:09:04] <Caitlyn> I forgot to install OS
L124[07:09:09] <Lizzy> lol
L125[07:09:24] <Caitlyn> s/ll /ll the /
L126[07:09:24] <MichiBot> <Caitlyn> I forgot to install the OS
L127[07:12:53] <Inari> Lizzy: accoreding to ARK what
L128[07:12:57] <Inari> Oh
L129[07:12:59] <Inari> you mean Izaya
L130[07:13:12] <Inari> I should change my name to Iznari
L131[07:13:17] <Lizzy> oh
L132[07:13:20] <Lizzy> sorry
L133[07:13:42] <Lizzy> yes, i did mean Izaya
L134[07:13:56] <Izaya> oh okay
L135[07:14:07] <Lizzy> aparrently the last spoke order in hexchat doesn't listen to znc playback
L136[07:20:38] <Lizzy> also now since i've fixed the issue, i can use it on my main pc properly
L137[07:22:03] <Izaya> wtf nginx
L138[07:22:08] <Izaya> I disabled all the stuff relating to https
L139[07:22:14] <Izaya> why are you still redirecting my http to https?
L140[07:22:22] <Lizzy> 301 perhaps?
L141[07:22:35] <Lizzy> er
L142[07:22:39] <Lizzy> 301 redirect perhaps
L143[07:22:47] <Izaya> also
L144[07:22:53] <Izaya> why decided to enable mouse by default in vim?
L145[07:22:56] <Izaya> it's a right pain
L146[07:23:00] <Izaya> also syntax highlighting
L147[07:23:04] <Izaya> also all the recent updated
L148[07:23:08] <Izaya> they really shitted it up
L149[07:23:37] <Izaya> # if ($scheme != "https") {
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L153[07:26:18] <Izaya> this is why I use apache2
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L155[07:26:23] <Izaya> the configuration actually configures it
L156[07:26:27] <xandaros> I'd agree to having highlighting by default if they set background to "dark" by default...
L157[07:27:09] <Caitlyn> Izaya, did that use a 301 redirect, or a 302 redirect?
L158[07:27:21] <Caitlyn> 301s are cached client side "forever"
L159[07:28:01] <Izaya> ... that would probably do it
L160[07:28:19] <Caitlyn> which is what Lizzy was suggesting :P
L161[07:29:00] <Forecaster> http://imgur.com/gallery/q1BnmVe
L162[07:35:11] <Forecaster> also http://imgur.com/gallery/q1aNQFE
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L165[07:49:03] <Lizzy> also speaking of 301's, that's what anything on my services that uses https uses for redirecting http to https
L166[07:49:34] <Forecaster> http://imgur.com/gallery/BV92tdV wtf
L167[07:49:50] <Inari> We need more merriment
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L170[08:00:06] <Forecaster> http://imgur.com/gallery/BVXJnLV
L171[08:00:08] <Forecaster> catronome
L172[08:04:34] <Saphire> Hm
L173[08:05:03] <Saphire> Can you make a normal Lua IRC bot without threads?
L174[08:05:10] <Saphire> That allows input.
L175[08:05:20] <LizzyTheKitty> possibly?
L176[08:05:38] * Lizzy can't remember if vifino's |0xDEADBEEF| is multithreaded or not
L177[08:05:40] <Saphire> ...should I use threads?
L178[08:05:52] <Saphire> (or another language altogether)
L179[08:06:41] <vifino> Lizzy: it is
L180[08:08:46] <Saphire> vifino: what threads library you used?
L181[08:09:51] <Stary[m]> daily reminder lua is not thread safe
L182[08:10:06] * Saphire sighs
L183[08:10:11] <Saphire> C++ or Java?
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L185[08:10:35] <Saphire> Or *name of a better/hyped language*
L186[08:11:26] <Hovercraft> ~~@Lizzy You can always snuggle him until he gives an answer~~
L187[08:11:56] <Saphire> Hover: you do realize there is no striketrough in IRC? :P
L188[08:12:16] <Hovercraft> yes
L189[08:12:20] <Hovercraft> pretend there is
L190[08:12:30] <vifino> and pretend i didn't answer already.
L191[08:13:05] * Lizzy snuggles her vifino anyway, regardless of getting anything but snuggles in return
L192[08:13:34] <Hovercraft> There's probably some unicode for strikethrough
L193[08:13:42] <Lizzy> eww why?
L194[08:13:46] <Hovercraft> because unicode
L195[08:15:13] <Hovercraft> I wonder if there are unicode codepoints for underlines... In Chinese it's a punctuation but I doubt it
L196[08:16:42] <Caitlyn> Hmm
L197[08:16:52] <Caitlyn> I wonder if Apple still has their repair contract in Memphis
L198[08:17:40] <Caitlyn> I'm tempted to do some research and apply if so
L199[08:18:52] <Hovercraft> looking at an apple store feels like using light theme discord
L200[08:19:20] <Caitlyn> Well, this isn't an apple store, it's a repair depot, not even owned or ran BY apple, just contacted by to repair their laptops
L201[08:20:32] <Caitlyn> After the 20+ minute bitching out I took yesterday because we got a chargeback on a $125 credit card transaction, ranging from everything of I'm lazy to fucking basically worthless, I don't give a fuck if he shoves this RadioShack up his ass, I'm out first chance I get
L202[08:27:35] <Kodos> wha
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L204[08:28:21] <Kodos> Caitlyn, xerox copies a sheet of paper to another sheet of paper
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L206[08:29:16] <Caitlyn> Yeah, turns out I had a corrupted page in the scanner input I thought I was forgetting an input arg
L207[08:30:00] <Caitlyn> it was dying on line 30 cause it couldn't read any lines
L208[08:30:05] <Caitlyn> And I gotta head to hell
L209[08:34:20] * DaMachinator attempts to download videos from the internetz and rip the audio tracks from them
L210[08:34:44] <Kodos> There's an app for that
L211[08:35:23] <xandaros> s/app/addon
L212[08:35:23] <MichiBot> <Kodos> There's an addon for that
L213[08:35:32] <Kodos> No no, an oc application
L214[08:35:42] <xandaros> ah
L215[08:35:48] <Kodos> There's also a website that can do it, too
L216[08:36:36] <xandaros> For a while I used youtube-viewer to play music from a headless system. Works fairly well, actually
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L219[08:49:28] <DaMachinator> i'm using a firefox application to download the videos and adobe premiere to export the audio tracks from the videos
L220[08:50:11] <Forecaster> I use a program called Any Video Converter
L221[08:50:27] <Forecaster> it converts pretty much anything to pretty much anything
L222[08:51:04] <Forecaster> I use it to separate my voiceover tracks from my recordings so I can use them in my video editor primarily
L223[08:55:11] <DaMachinator> if it weren't that my school has premiere installed on the laptops it issues
L224[08:55:16] <DaMachinator> i would probably use something like that
L225[08:56:41] <Forecaster> and it does bulk conversions, which is great
L226[08:57:49] <Kodos> Does anyone know where to get some solid soundbytes for computer-spoken phrases, or should I just record my narrator or something
L227[08:58:47] <DaMachinator> what kind of computer-spoken phrases
L228[08:59:05] <Kodos> "Now establishing data link" "Systems online" And whatever else I can think of for the project I'm working on
L229[08:59:31] <DaMachinator> record yourself or someone else
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L231[08:59:39] <DaMachinator> then add a voice filter
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L233[09:01:56] <Forecaster> ^
L234[09:02:05] <Forecaster> text-to-speech usually isn't that great
L235[09:02:57] <Kodos> I'll probably just end up hiring someone and use the group funds to pay for it
L236[09:03:55] <Forecaster> it can do in a pinch
L237[09:04:16] <Forecaster> or like, testing
L238[09:07:09] <Vexatos> Kodos, http://mary.dfki.de/
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L240[09:07:14] <Vexatos> just about the best tts system I know
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L243[09:32:19] <Lizzy> ... why is the nvidia gpu in my laptop on
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L253[10:09:55] <Inari> Lizzy: It wants to do something too
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L255[10:12:49] <Amerem> Im just guessing but maybe you have a hardware accelerated program open?
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L258[10:15:00] <Lizzy> @Aerem, i might but that doesn't automaically activate the gpu on windows
L259[10:15:39] <Lizzy> s/windows/linux
L260[10:15:39] <MichiBot> <Lizzy> @Aerem, i might but that doesn't automaically activate the gpu on linux
L261[10:15:52] <LizzyTheKitty> @Amerem *
L262[10:15:56] <LizzyTheKitty> ffs
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L267[10:27:11] <Lizzy> home time!
L268[10:29:07] <Mettaton_Fab> oi.
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L272[10:49:07] <DaMachinator> hmm
L273[10:49:20] <DaMachinator> is there a way to tell if a table index exists or not
L274[10:49:50] <DaMachinator> i am storing values in a table, but there is a method of determining new values for the table
L275[10:50:25] <DaMachinator> i would like to check if a table value exists and:
L276[10:50:39] <DaMachinator> if it does, return that value
L277[10:51:08] <DaMachinator> if it does not, call the function to get the correct, add the value to the table, and return the value
L278[10:51:21] <fingercomp> compare yourTable[index] to nil: if tbl[index] == nil then print("doesn't exist") end
L279[10:51:42] <DaMachinator> so the value at an index that doesn't exist will be nil?
L280[10:51:45] <SolraBizna> correct
L281[10:51:54] <fingercomp> DaMachinator: yes
L282[10:52:04] <DaMachinator> thanks
L283[10:52:06] <SolraBizna> if you know that false will never be a value in your table, you can do: if not tbl[index] then print("doesn't exist") end
L284[10:52:14] <SolraBizna> but == nil is probably more clear either way
L285[10:52:27] <DaMachinator> all the values in the table will be component addresses
L286[10:52:29] <DaMachinator> always
L287[10:52:37] <SolraBizna> and, since what you're asking for is memoization...
L288[10:52:55] <SolraBizna> setmetatable(tbl, {__index=function(t,k) --[[ find the right value and put it into t[k] ]] return t[k] end})
L289[10:53:11] <DaMachinator> um
L290[10:53:21] <DaMachinator> i understand none of that at all
L291[10:53:27] <SolraBizna> after that, table[existing_key] will act as normal
L292[10:53:33] <SolraBizna> but table[missing_key] will call that __index function
L293[10:53:42] <DaMachinator> what does __index do
L294[10:54:02] <SolraBizna> __index is a "metamethod" that will be called whenever someone accesses the table with a key that doesn't exist
L295[10:54:26] <DaMachinator> what is "setmetatable" and for that matter what is a metatable
L296[10:54:47] <SolraBizna> a metatable is a table you attach to some other value; the metatable tells Lua "under certain circumstances, I want special behavior"
L297[10:54:53] <DaMachinator> ok...
L298[10:55:01] <DaMachinator> sounds wierd but cool
L299[10:55:04] <SolraBizna> this metatable says "when someone accesses a key that doesn't exist, this is what I want from you"
L300[10:55:26] <DaMachinator> thing that annoys me about JS: you can access the characters of a string as if it were an array but none of the array methods work on strings
L301[10:55:33] <SolraBizna> lol
L302[10:55:38] <SolraBizna> classic JavaScript
L303[10:55:42] <DaMachinator> so:
L304[10:55:53] <DaMachinator> str = "aBigLongString"
L305[10:56:11] <DaMachinator> str[0] == "a"
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L307[10:57:44] <DaMachinator> str.pop() doesn't work, among other things
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L309[10:58:31] <DaMachinator> the only array-like thing you can do with JS strings is accessing a char by index with []
L310[10:58:58] <DaMachinator> now...to persist, or not to persist...
L311[10:59:20] <Forecaster> you can convert the string to an actual array :P
L312[10:59:22] <Forecaster> problem solved
L313[10:59:23] <DaMachinator> do i make the address resolution table persist across restarts, and do i allow the user to add entries manually
L314[10:59:43] <SolraBizna> to the second, yes
L315[10:59:54] <SolraBizna> but only because I've actually been in a position where I needed to use "arp -s"
L316[11:00:24] <DaMachinator> i'll probably write an "arp" program to allow that
L317[11:00:25] <SolraBizna> to the first, consider making a file the user can populate with table entries they want on boot
L318[11:00:37] <SolraBizna> like /etc/ethers on *NIX
L319[11:00:57] <DaMachinator> the table needs to be stored in a file location somewhere
L320[11:01:22] <SolraBizna> if the whole table persists, unless entries time out, it will grow over time and eventually take over the entire computer
L321[11:01:42] <DaMachinator> an update to the OC-IP protocol will probably add more security measures to protect against IP address spoofing
L322[11:02:06] <DaMachinator> SolraBizna: i'll probably do two tables, then
L323[11:02:15] <DaMachinator> a dynamic table in /tmp/
L324[11:02:43] <DaMachinator> and a static table the user can add entries to (via a program) in /usr/somefolder or something like that
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L326[11:03:03] <DaMachinator> on startup, the protocol driver will need to add the contents of the static table to the dynamic table
L327[11:03:33] * DaMachinator makes functions in his library that aren't accessible to programs that the library itself uses
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L329[11:03:54] <DaMachinator> now, how do i go about doing this...
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L331[11:04:12] <DaMachinator> i hope lua makes it easy to append tables
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L333[11:04:51] <Forecaster> "string".split("")
L334[11:05:29] <SolraBizna> best part: the result of that will only *usually* be one character per entry
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L336[11:06:34] * Forecaster shrugs
L337[11:06:42] <Forecaster> I've never had to use array methods on a string
L338[11:09:31] <SolraBizna> note to self: when testing changes to a Minecraft mod, ensure that you are actually testing the changed version
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L340[11:14:15] <DaMachinator> heh
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L347[11:29:48] <BrokenFSCube> I seem to have a knack for breaking filesystems
L348[11:29:55] <SolraBizna> lol
L349[11:30:00] <BrokenFSCube> 'cause I just broke XFS.
L350[11:30:24] * Michiyo duct tapes BrokenFSCube's FS back together
L351[11:30:33] <DaMachinator> i seem to have a knack for randomly wanting to learn scripting languages
L352[11:31:32] <BrokenFSCube> ohey
L353[11:31:45] <BrokenFSCube> with a different kernel it no longer barfs a stacktrace
L354[11:33:05] <DaMachinator> ok, time to figure out how to import data from a file
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L357[11:34:30] <SolraBizna> so what happened?
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L359[11:35:00] <Ember_Primrose> im back from the dead
L360[11:35:04] <BrokenFSCube> SolraBizna: I have no flipping idea
L361[11:35:05] <Ember_Primrose> AGAIN
L362[11:35:37] <DaMachinator> SolraBizna: trying to figure out how i would store a lua table in a file and import it to a table variable in a program
L363[11:35:57] <BrokenFSCube> the only thing that could've possibly caused this is that this morning I started copying the wrong disk with dd....but it was to an .img file so it shouldn'tve broken the filesystem
L364[11:36:09] <Forecaster> hi Ember
L365[11:36:18] <Ember_Primrose> :C
L366[11:36:25] <Ember_Primrose> y u leaf
L367[11:36:45] <Forecaster> ?
L368[11:36:50] <BrokenFSCube> Interestingly the system booted but it quickly behaved as if the IO scheduler had screwed off and died before init began spitting out 'cannot execute' errors
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L370[11:37:53] <Temia> DaMachinator: Serialise, write; read, deserialise?
L371[11:38:22] * Ember_Primrose hugs Temia who she have seen too long ago
L372[11:38:40] * Temia eepmoos and hugs back.
L373[11:38:47] <Ember_Primrose> \o/
L374[11:38:53] <Ember_Primrose> no more dc's
L375[11:39:06] <DaMachinator> time to find out what "serialize" means
L376[11:39:33] * BrokenFSCube wonders if he should start checking for HW issues. 2 filesystems broken on the same physical media.
L377[11:39:52] <Temia> Probably not a bad idea.
L378[11:41:40] <Ember_Primrose> anyone knows what MGR is up to?
L379[11:42:05] <DaMachinator> world domination?
L380[11:42:14] <DaMachinator> (on his server)
L381[11:42:22] <Ember_Primrose> well
L382[11:42:32] <Ember_Primrose> hes been offline for a while now
L383[11:42:41] <DaMachinator> i am not surprised
L384[11:42:58] <Ember_Primrose> oh?
L385[11:43:05] <Ember_Primrose> 0.
L386[11:46:03] <Temia> He's moved to Discord as best as I can tell.
L387[11:46:34] <DaMachinator> can someone explain to me what a "function iterator" is and how i use it
L388[11:47:25] <Temia> In lua?
L389[11:48:33] <DaMachinator> yes
L390[11:49:22] <Temia> ...too tired, I'll let someone else explain
L391[11:49:28] <DaMachinator> ...
L392[11:49:28] * Temia rolls over, zzzmoo
L393[11:51:13] * DaMachinator quietly builds a brick structure around temia
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L395[11:56:15] <SolraBizna> an iterator function is a function you call over and over to iterate through a bunch of things
L396[11:56:29] <SolraBizna> this is an example: for key,value in pairs(table) do print(key) end
L397[11:56:45] <SolraBizna> pairs(table) returns an iterator function that returns, in sequence, every key/value pair in the table
L398[12:07:11] <SolraBizna> though that probably isn't a good explanation since for-iterator loops hide the actual calling of the iterator function...
L399[12:08:25] <SolraBizna> https://www.lua.org/manual/5.2/manual.html#3.3.5 <-- the bottom of this section shows a while loop that demonstrates what for-iterator is actually doing
L400[12:16:04] <BrokenFSCube> yay
L401[12:16:09] <BrokenFSCube> XFS is restoring
L402[12:17:08] <SolraBizna> as in, dumping to another filesystem? or as in, fsck.xfs is fixing things?
L403[12:17:16] <BrokenFSCube> SolraBizna: as in
L404[12:17:21] * BrokenFSCube ran xfs_repair
L405[12:17:30] <BrokenFSCube> I may or may not have lost *some* data
L406[12:17:51] <SolraBizna> 'kay
L407[12:18:02] <SolraBizna> not being able to just do something like that is the main reason I decided not to stay with btrfs
L408[12:18:21] <BrokenFSCube> what did you go with
L409[12:18:29] <SolraBizna> XFS
L410[12:18:43] <SolraBizna> because it's had extends and preallocation and speculative allocation pretty much forever
L411[12:18:47] <SolraBizna> s/extends/extents/
L412[12:18:47] <MichiBot> <SolraBizna> because it's had extents and preallocation and speculative allocation pretty much forever
L413[12:18:51] <BrokenFSCube> SolraBizna: bookmark this somewhere for later
L414[12:18:58] <BrokenFSCube> http://serverfault.com/questions/777299/proper-way-to-deal-with-corrupt-xfs-filesystems
L415[12:19:21] * SolraBizna bookmarks that on his laptop (which is using btrfs still)
L416[12:19:45] <BrokenFSCube> basically, instead of immediately doing the real thing
L417[12:19:49] <gamax92> hey
L418[12:19:54] <BrokenFSCube> you take a dump of the meatdata and repair that first
L419[12:20:02] <gamax92> D: Cube what happened?
L420[12:20:17] <BrokenFSCube> gamax92: XFS decided to break. Fixed now.
L421[12:20:34] <SolraBizna> my solution to desert-induced dirty AC: echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches every few hours
L422[12:21:29] <BrokenFSCube> hm. lost+found has 2 sqlite databases
L423[12:21:36] <SolraBizna> gonna guess web browser
L424[12:21:54] <BrokenFSCube> the rest is just unidentifiable data
L425[12:23:16] <Mettaton_Fab> lua is gud.
L426[12:24:10] <Mettaton_Fab> which os is best for 1.5GB RAM and a Quad-Core CPU?
L427[12:24:44] <SolraBizna> Until three years ago, my main computer was a Linux laptop with 768MB of RAM and a single-core 400MHz CPU.
L428[12:25:08] <SolraBizna> So as long as you have at least 100MB of RAM, Linux is always the answer.
L429[12:25:12] <SolraBizna> (Or one of the BSDs.)
L430[12:25:32] <BrokenFSCube> here we go!
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L432[12:30:09] <gamax92> Mettaton_Fab: I run Linux smoothly on a computer with worse specs, so Linux
L433[12:31:09] <gamax92> anyway, time to go do work on a mod
L434[12:31:43] <gamax92> still have a bunch of TODOs in my plan here but anythings better than nothing
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L437[12:33:27] <Mettaton_Fab> but which Linux? (not openSUSE Leap 42.1)
L438[12:33:34] <SolraBizna> I'm boring, so I use Debian.
L439[12:34:38] <Mettaton_Fab> Ubuntu is a very good option for me.
L440[12:34:50] <Mettaton_Fab> but i need blank DVDs for me.
L441[12:35:08] <SolraBizna> Use a USB stick?
L442[12:35:49] <Mettaton_Fab> my PC doesn't want to boot from USB.
L443[12:36:05] <SolraBizna> Netboot?
L444[12:36:17] <xarses> sounds like you should thow out your computer
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L446[12:36:26] <SolraBizna> nooooooooooo
L447[12:36:32] <Mettaton_Fab> but if you can find an IDE ODD emulator for me, i might be able to boot from USB
L448[12:36:52] <Mettaton_Fab> how do i even netboot?
L449[12:37:15] <xarses> put a tftp/pxe server elsewhere on the network
L450[12:37:24] <SolraBizna> and also a DHCP server
L451[12:37:30] <gamax92> Mettaton_Fab: PLoP bootloader may also work for USB booting
L452[12:37:32] <SolraBizna> it's a bit fiddly to set up but I've done it enough times I could help
L453[12:37:47] <Mettaton_Fab> i could just put my PC into my school for booting an OS
L454[12:37:56] <xarses> I'd assume they have a DHCP server somewhere on the network
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L456[12:38:16] <Mettaton_Fab> that FOG thingy is what they use.
L457[12:38:25] <StillBrokenCube> SolraBizna: so
L458[12:38:27] <SolraBizna> it's not necessarily easy to configure that DHCP to give a boot record
L459[12:38:35] <StillBrokenCube> XFS began to spew errors on reboot
L460[12:39:05] <Mettaton_Fab> what is dis PLoP Bootloader?
L461[12:39:38] <Mettaton_Fab> well, it can boot from USB, but will freeze if i try to install it.
L462[12:40:08] <gamax92> oh, then you probably don't need PLoP
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L465[12:40:28] <Mettaton_Fab> it always freezes while installing.
L466[12:40:31] <gamax92> but, PLoP allows you to boot from USB on machines that can't and boot from CD from machines that cant
L467[12:41:25] <Mettaton_Fab> so where can i order a Ubuntu 14.04 disc?
L468[12:41:25] <xarses> ca
L469[12:41:44] <gamax92> why so old?
L470[12:41:49] <xarses> good god, why 14.04
L471[12:42:14] <gamax92> 16.04 is latest LTS and 16.10 is latest version
L472[12:42:15] <xarses> also, you kinda can't your gonna have to burn it your self, or convince some one to mail it to you
L473[12:42:24] <Mettaton_Fab> because.
L474[12:42:26] <gamax92> you can order discs though
L475[12:42:47] <xarses> also, you can do the net installer, and then only need a cd-r
L476[12:42:49] <Mettaton_Fab> i could burn one, but i need a DVD for that.
L477[12:43:28] <xarses> you can also install from basically any LiveCD image
L478[12:43:35] <xarses> also, not a dvd size
L479[12:43:44] <gamax92> it is a dvd size
L480[12:44:55] <Mettaton_Fab> it is bigger than 700 MB
L481[12:45:17] <gamax92> But yeah, Father and I used to order discs from osdisc.com before we stopped being stupid and realized we can just use USB
L482[12:45:37] <xarses> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
L483[12:46:05] <Mettaton_Fab> or can you get me a CD bigger than 800 MB?
L484[12:46:14] <gamax92> oh that mini,iso thing
L485[12:47:00] <xarses> there is a smaller than 800 mb livecd somewhere, but I'm not gonna hunt it down
L486[12:47:32] <xarses> but that's the bare bones
L487[12:48:00] <Mettaton_Fab> well, gonna get a blank DVD from somewhere.
L488[12:48:26] <xarses> are you in the artic circle? How hard is it to get a DVD-R?
L489[12:48:46] <xarses> I think they have them at the 7-Eleven
L490[12:49:06] <gamax92> generally yeah
L491[12:54:44] <StillBrokenCube> SolraBizna: so, hopefully this will be the last time I invoke xfs_repair
L492[12:55:24] <Mettaton_Fab> i am in germany, so it is rather easy, but i have no money.
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L497[13:07:47] <payonel> xarses: o/
L498[13:11:28] <Mettaton_Fab> the DVD had been burned correctly!
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L500[13:12:45] <Mettaton_Fab> i always try it first with a ISO mountinng program.
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L502[13:20:45] <xarses> payonel: o/
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L504[13:23:06] <Inari> https://images.sankakucomplex.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Original-Gamer-Girl-PlayStation-by-amasora-taichi-468x663.jpg
L505[13:24:45] <Mettaton_Fab> Inari, wat?
L506[13:34:08] <Inari> Mettaton_Fab: She got gaming skill
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L508[13:36:14] <Kodos> ...
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L510[13:37:21] <Temia> ...what
L511[13:37:54] <Inari> Temia: ?
L512[13:40:31] <Tokiko> ?
L513[13:40:46] * Inari collects dust from Tokiko's wings
L514[13:41:11] <Tokiko> reimu took my books
L515[13:41:46] <Inari> :<
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L520[13:49:20] <Mettaton_Fab> pc tries to boot from DVD.
L521[13:50:11] <Mettaton_Fab> it seems to succeed.
L522[13:50:18] <SolraBizna> yay?
L523[13:52:25] <Mettaton_Fab> it loaded the OS.
L524[13:52:33] <Mettaton_Fab> from an IDE ODD.
L525[13:52:43] <Mettaton_Fab> which is horribly slow.
L526[13:52:45] <SolraBizna> yay!
L527[13:53:06] <SolraBizna> once I booted System 7.5 over a 9600 baud serial hard disk
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L530[13:58:07] <Mettaton_Fab> it seems to run quite good on that old system.
L531[14:03:37] <Mettaton_Fab> it wants to install.... now we wait.
L532[14:04:47] <Mettaton_Fab> it werks!
L533[14:05:41] <Michiyo> s/it w/i tw/
L534[14:05:42] <MichiBot> <Mettaton_Fab> i twerks!
L535[14:05:55] <Kodos> ~w note
L536[14:05:55] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/api:note
L537[14:07:21] <Forecaster> it forks!
L538[14:07:45] <Vexatos> Kodos, I made it :>
L539[14:07:51] <Kodos> Made what
L540[14:07:56] * Vexatos runs
L541[14:08:15] <Vexatos> Kodos, note API and note API wiki page :⁾
L542[14:08:19] <Kodos> Ah
L543[14:08:33] <Mettaton_Fab> it is around 75% done with copying files!
L544[14:08:34] <Kodos> I was just looking for an example of a component that can take either a single value, or a table of values, as input
L545[14:13:29] <xarses> hey payonel I noticed on 1.6 that install won't install openOS from the local hdd
L546[14:14:47] <Forecaster> "from"?
L547[14:16:39] <Mettaton_Fab> currently downloading language packs.
L548[14:21:26] <Mettaton_Fab> it be running post-install triggers!
L549[14:25:08] <gamax92> xarses: yes, openos won't try to copy itself onto itself :P
L550[14:25:28] <xarses> no, from installed hdd to mounted hdd
L551[14:25:52] <xarses> but it will install fine from floppy to hdd (any)
L552[14:25:59] <xarses> even if you boot from the floppy
L553[14:26:46] <xarses> . / isn't a valid source if its a hdd
L554[14:27:03] <xarses> but its a valid dest for other things to install to it (tape)
L555[14:28:27] <Inari> https://imgur.com/gallery/kUVqs
L556[14:31:08] <Inari> https://imgur.com/gallery/LvO8u
L557[14:31:43] <Inari> payonel: https://imgur.com/gallery/grxX8
L558[14:32:19] <Mettaton_Fab> its done installing!
L559[14:44:10] <Mettaton_Fab> which irc client should i use for my ubuntu pc?
L560[14:48:17] <Michiyo> All of them!
L561[14:48:20] <Michiyo> (I use hexchat)
L562[14:49:22] <Mettaton_Fab> i think my pc just crashed.
L563[14:49:31] <Mettaton_Fab> it has blackscreened.
L564[14:50:45] <xarses> laptop?
L565[14:50:56] <Mettaton_Fab> no, desktop pc.
L566[14:50:59] <xarses> the one you just installed?
L567[14:51:06] <Mettaton_Fab> i am writing on my laptop.
L568[14:51:19] <Mettaton_Fab> yep that pc i just installed.
L569[14:52:03] <xarses> are you sure it didn't just send a power off command to the screen, and forgot to wake it back up?
L570[14:52:15] <xarses> i.e. can you ping/ssh into it
L571[14:52:35] <Mettaton_Fab> it happened all of a sudden.
L572[14:53:05] <Mettaton_Fab> also, the hdd led went into a faint red glow, which means it crashed.
L573[14:53:30] <xarses> I'm just saying, it's common on new builds for it to send a power off to the screen, that it cant recover from
L574[14:53:46] <xarses> builds/installs
L575[14:53:54] <Mettaton_Fab> it hung up while booting.
L576[14:53:59] <xarses> fun
L577[14:54:17] <Mettaton_Fab> so it seems i need a new mobo for that machine.
L578[14:54:27] <Mettaton_Fab> so i can connect more hdds!
L579[14:56:54] <Mettaton_Fab> just running a memtest for tests.
L580[14:58:55] <Mettaton_Fab> but which mobo should i get?
L581[14:59:03] <Michiyo> All of them!
L582[15:19:31] <Forecaster> 1 eighth of each
L583[15:25:07] <Forecaster> and then you get a bunch of glue!
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L585[16:00:20] <Mettaton_Fab> i found one for more than 20E on ebay.
L586[16:00:27] <Mettaton_Fab> *€
L587[16:00:42] <Mettaton_Fab> also a whole pc for less than 10€
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L589[16:02:28] <Mettaton_Fab> fuck, i cant log into my pc.
L590[16:02:42] <Mettaton_Fab> the graphics just fucked up i think.
L591[16:04:13] <Mettaton_Fab> i need a new pc, thats fo shizzle
L592[16:10:29] <Mettaton_Fab> if i want to log in correctly, it glitches out and i am loginlooped.
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L595[16:23:51] <MGR> @Kodos are you there?
L596[16:24:04] <Kodos> Yes
L597[16:32:35] <Cruor> :o i found a Kodos
L598[16:35:42] <MGR> LOL WAT
L599[16:35:55] <MGR> I was playing Universe Sandbox 2, and pushed two stars together
L600[16:36:06] <MGR> 1 was 10 solar masses, and the other was 1 solar masses
L601[16:36:11] <MGR> a supernova resulted
L602[16:36:14] <Forecaster> Ember_Primrose: MGR lives
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L604[16:37:18] <MGR> Forecaster, I know, we got in touch
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L606[16:39:24] <Forecaster> or did you?!
L607[16:40:20] <MGR> Yes?
L608[16:40:50] <MGR> I'm now going to throw 2 enormous stars at each other
L609[16:42:30] <Inari> I never saw the fun in Universe Sandbox
L610[16:50:41] <Forecaster> http://m.imgur.com/gallery/yGDTKoQ
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L614[17:13:51] <Inari> I love it
L615[17:13:55] <Inari> Where do I buy
L616[17:16:20] <Inari> http://i.imgur.com/2jSGLNC.jpg
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L618[17:27:45] <Forecaster> That's a weapon in enter the gungeon :P
L619[17:28:13] <Inari> Haha
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L626[18:27:00] <Kodos> What's the rm command that you never want to run because it removes everything
L627[18:27:53] <Mimiru> rm -rf / –no-preserve-root
L628[18:28:07] <Mimiru> --no-preserve-root*
L629[18:29:31] <Kodos> ty
L630[18:32:47] <scj643> @mimiru sudo rm -f / --no-preserve-root
L631[18:32:56] <scj643> *-rf
L632[18:33:08] <Caitlyn> fair enough forgot the sudo
L633[18:33:12] <Caitlyn> But if you
L634[18:33:22] <Caitlyn> if you're running that you likely log into root anyway
L635[18:33:22] <Caitlyn> :p
L636[18:34:50] <Kodos> Fuck yeah
L637[18:34:55] <Kodos> Got regionwide SID working
L638[18:35:30] <Kodos> What's the integer range limit on an OC Modem port
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L641[18:43:42] <Kodos> Will check back later, back Soon™
L642[18:49:06] <gamax92> lol soni
L643[18:50:42] <SolraBizna> Are you talking about his comment on my PR?
L644[18:51:06] <SolraBizna> Because I have no idea how to even respond to that.
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L646[18:57:21] <Tokiko> wait where
L647[18:57:25] <Tokiko> i wanna see D:
L648[18:57:36] <SolraBizna> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/pull/2168
L649[18:57:51] <SolraBizna> Somehow, he read enough of my PR to understand what it was for, but not enough to understand why it would be needed.
L650[18:58:02] <Tokiko> soni strikes again
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L660[20:18:59] <oran_ge> yes?
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L665[21:29:00] <GreaseMonkey> SolraBizna: the irony is soni was having a fight a lot earlier pertaining to os.sleep often sleeping longer than expected
L666[21:29:12] <GreaseMonkey> he's in a bad position to talk about timing
L667[21:29:19] <SolraBizna> yeah
L668[21:29:32] <SolraBizna> someone here linked that the other day
L669[21:29:42] <GreaseMonkey> but yeah, basically, see if you can get asie's suggestion working first
L670[21:30:09] <SolraBizna> now that I understand what he suggested, I think it's a better option
L671[21:30:19] <SolraBizna> I'm just not sure I can implement it correctly
L672[21:30:53] <SolraBizna> since the goal isn't *zero* latency (since strictly sequential evaluation prevents that anyway), it's small, fixed latency
L673[21:31:06] <SolraBizna> uh... those mesages didn't come out of my brain in the right order
L674[21:31:31] <SolraBizna> s/mesages/messages/
L675[21:31:31] <MichiBot> <SolraBizna> uh... those messages didn't come out of my brain in the right order
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L677[21:34:18] <IzayaPhone> well then, I now have a block inside Minetest that can act as a really simple processor
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L679[21:47:22] <SolraBizna> at least, I don't know how to implement it in Scala/Java
L680[21:47:27] <SolraBizna> I'm not sure how to implement it with pthreads either
L681[21:47:45] <SolraBizna> I'd be able to implement it super easily in SpaceChem though
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L688[22:55:17] <SolraBizna> Now I've got it.
L689[22:59:52] <Izaya> TIL there are autoturrets in Rust
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L692[23:34:12] <Izaya> https://paste.teknik.io/Raw/co9sx
L693[23:37:13] <SolraBizna> that's a lot of hard disks
L694[23:39:55] <Izaya> 5 2TB HDDs and a 128GB SSD
L695[23:41:16] <Izaya> Currently debating whether to stick my second GTX690 in there for the purposes of VM passthrough
L696[23:41:29] <SolraBizna> does it have an IOMMU?
L697[23:41:41] <Izaya> yup
L698[23:41:54] <Izaya> Intel Xeon E3-1231 v3
L699[23:42:02] <Izaya> it has a half-decent gaming motherboard too
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L701[23:51:57] <SolraBizna> I never thought of having a second card and passing through only that
L702[23:54:51] <Hovercraft> Hmm... should I learn VB, Pascal, C or Java? (Exams, lovely exams)
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