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L4[00:53:41] <Kodos> Am I crazy, or is the
Forums notification sound the 'User joined voice channel' sound
from Discord
L5[01:24:58] <Forecaster> I've never heard
it
L6[01:25:08] <Forecaster> I don't really go
on the forums
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L8[01:41:57] <Forecaster> http://theworstthingsforsale.com/2016/11/28/a-man-using-a-soap-dispenser-phone-case/
L9[01:42:01] <Forecaster> what is this I
dont even
L10[01:42:09] <Forecaster> why would anyone
want that xD
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L19[04:37:50] <Inari> "I am rip,
worlds be kill" - Oppenheimer
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L21[04:44:10] <Forecaster> hm, no that
doesn't quite sound right
L22[04:44:59] <Forecaster> wellp, I figured
out what the issue with my factory was
L23[04:45:13] <Forecaster> I forgot that
the conveyors had a limited transfer rate
L24[04:45:41] <Forecaster> now my gun line
is at 100% efficiency
L25[04:46:23] <snowden89> yay the southern
countries support your efforts
L26[04:46:28] <snowden89> to keep guns in
there hands
L27[04:46:40] <snowden89> states + -
countries.
L28[04:46:44] <Forecaster> :P
L29[04:46:55] <snowden89> sigh ruined my
hillbilly references :(
L30[04:49:03] <Forecaster> also have a
research center 3 running at 100% now which is nice
L31[04:50:09] <Forecaster> costs a lot of
money though
L32[04:50:17] <Inari> Forecaster: the
transfer rate of them is the most annoying hting
L33[04:50:51] <Forecaster> I didn't notice
that the game told you when 1 wasn't enough for a specific
machine
L34[04:51:43] <Inari> "- You Made in
Korea"
L35[04:52:38] <Forecaster> I haven't made
any lines in korea D:
L36[04:54:09] <Inari> https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10420904 neat
L37[04:54:51] <Inari> https://www.1999.co.jp/itbig42/10420904b.jpg What am
I looking at
L38[04:55:31] <Forecaster> tea and
cookies?
L39[04:56:15] <Inari> But why
L40[04:56:23] <Forecaster> I dunno
L41[04:56:26] <Forecaster> I don't drink
tea :P
L42[04:58:48] <Forecaster> I do eat cookies
occasionally though
L43[05:00:12] <Inari> Ii~ desho? friends
and melody!
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L48[06:05:33] <Forecaster> wut
L49[06:13:33] <Forecaster> http://imgur.com/gallery/YVgmc
L50[06:13:36] <Forecaster> heh
L51[06:18:23] <Totoro> =)
L52[06:32:49] <Forecaster> http://imgur.com/gallery/YVzAQET
L53[06:43:30] <Forecaster> that is
adorable
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L55[06:52:52] <Inari> http://imgur.com/gallery/6bSa191
L56[06:55:11] <Forecaster> http://imgur.com/gallery/qPBZWrR crushing
L57[06:55:41] <Forecaster> aw that poor
dog
L58[06:56:58] <Inari> http://i.imgur.com/kmS5oor.png
L59[07:00:34] <Forecaster> oh look, actual
irony: http://imgur.com/gallery/qP5a3K6
L60[07:02:16] <Forecaster> I dont get the
point of that thread
L61[07:11:07] <Inari> http://imgur.com/gallery/ZldsX Well I didn't see
that coming
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L63[07:15:08] zsh
sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L64[07:16:02] <Forecaster> :P
L65[07:18:06] <Inari> Vexy!
L66[07:18:32] <Forecaster> http://imgur.com/gallery/jvMNXnI
L67[07:18:38] <Forecaster> "We're
in" - bee probably
L68[07:19:33] <Inari> Wonder why she flew
off there for a moment
L69[07:20:20] <Forecaster> union scheduled
break
L70[07:21:36] <Vexatos> ?
L71[07:22:01] <Forecaster> bee.
L72[07:26:17] <Caitlyn> Good news, no
headache this morning
L73[07:26:37] <Caitlyn> bad news, nausea is
still hanging around..
L74[07:26:50] <Forecaster> ):
L75[07:28:11] <Caitlyn> I ended up having
to leave at 4 yesterday, boss's wife seemed pissy with me, but I
threw up twice before then, then threw up again in the parking
lot.. so fuck her
L76[07:28:54] 
<MGR>
@Mimiru well, I hope you feel less nauseated today
<MGR>
@Mimiru well, I hope you feel less nauseated todayL77[07:29:02] <MGR> If you
don't, throw up on your boss's wife
<MGR> If you
don't, throw up on your boss's wifeL78[07:29:05] <Caitlyn> Me too,
thanks
L79[07:29:06] <Caitlyn> lmao
L80[07:29:07] <MGR>
?
<MGR>
?L81[07:29:10] <Caitlyn> that's the plan
:P
L82[07:29:22] <MGR> It's a
solid one
<MGR> It's a
solid oneL83[07:29:52] <Forecaster> or the
opposite
L84[07:30:06] <Forecaster> semi-solid
L85[07:30:17] <Caitlyn> heh
L86[07:30:29] <MGR>
depends on what she had for breakfast
<MGR>
depends on what she had for breakfastL87[07:30:38] <MGR> and
how long
<MGR> and
how longL88[07:30:57] <MGR> I had
cereal for breakfast once, and it returned as a thick slurry, but
not too much solid material
<MGR> I had
cereal for breakfast once, and it returned as a thick slurry, but
not too much solid materialL89[07:31:08] ⇨
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L90[07:31:31] <Caitlyn> Oh... oh gods
stop
L91[07:31:32] <Caitlyn> :/
L92[07:31:32] <Caitlyn> lol
L93[07:32:03] <MGR> That's
what I was thinking when it wouldn't stop
<MGR> That's
what I was thinking when it wouldn't stopL94[07:32:19] <MGR> But
I'll stop now ?
<MGR> But
I'll stop now ?L95[07:32:50] <Forecaster> http://imgur.com/gallery/RREJ5lO
L96[07:35:49] <Forecaster> http://imgur.com/gallery/RRYbk
L97[07:35:51] <Forecaster> d'aw
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L99[07:45:46] <Forecaster> http://imgur.com/gallery/CrYRT
L100[07:46:07] <Forecaster> love #13
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L102[07:52:59] *
Lizzy has CS:ND now
L103[07:56:49] <Forecaster> Counter
Strike: New Dawn
L104[07:57:01] <Lizzy> Natural
Disasters
L105[07:57:04] <Forecaster> damn
L106[07:57:17] <Forecaster> I can't
believe it's not counter strike
L107[07:57:46] <Lizzy> not actually
available through the steam store yet, i pre-ordered it through
paradox's site
L108[07:58:35] <Forecaster> :O
L109[07:59:11] <Forecaster> http://imgur.com/gallery/l8nf8EO
L110[07:59:20] <Forecaster> vicious
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L112[08:08:44] <Inari> We can get about 10
trillion people on earth
L113[08:09:02] <Forecaster> before it pops
off and falls?
L114[08:09:30] <Inari> Nah, sapcewise you
could fit more but heat becomes an issue
L115[08:12:08] <MGR> Inari,
I like your thinking
<MGR> Inari,
I like your thinkingL116[08:12:15] <MGR> what
about personal heatsinks?
<MGR> what
about personal heatsinks?L117[08:12:33] <Lizzy> that's not gonna
help sod all
L118[08:12:38] <MGR> and
cutting atmospheric CO2 to 25% of current levels
<MGR> and
cutting atmospheric CO2 to 25% of current levelsL119[08:12:45] <MGR> Lizzy,
why not?
<MGR> Lizzy,
why not?L120[08:13:08] <Lizzy> because personal
heat likely wont change, it'll be the global heat that will
L121[08:13:50] <Inari> Not exactly my
thinking
L122[08:13:53] <Inari> I'm juist watching
YT vids
L123[08:14:34] <MGR> Lizzy,
REALLY big heatsinks XD
<MGR> Lizzy,
REALLY big heatsinks XDL124[08:14:50] <MGR> more
realistically though, draining atmospheric CO2 would probably
help
<MGR> more
realistically though, draining atmospheric CO2 would probably
helpL125[08:14:59] <MGR> can't
drain it TOO much though, or the plants will die
<MGR> can't
drain it TOO much though, or the plants will dieL126[08:15:26] <Forecaster> http://imgur.com/gallery/vr0UXbP
L127[08:15:29] <Forecaster> that last bit
xD
L128[08:16:20] <Lizzy> ¬_¬
L129[08:17:25] <Forecaster> for some
reason I still expected a train
L130[08:17:35] <Amerem> I
did to
<Amerem> I
did toL131[08:18:41] *
Inari hands Vexatos a triple integral
L132[08:18:59] <Inari> MGR: Meh,
hydroponics or such anyway
L133[08:19:31] <Inari> MGR: Also great,
now the heatsinks heat up, what now
L134[08:20:00] <MGR> Inari,
fans
<MGR> Inari,
fansL135[08:20:26] <Inari> ¬_¬
L136[08:20:30] <MGR> ok,
here's a 'realistic' answer
<MGR> ok,
here's a 'realistic' answerL137[08:20:32] <Inari> You still gotta
kind of radiate the heat away :P
L138[08:20:39] <MGR> Step
1: Deplete atmospheric CO2
<MGR> Step
1: Deplete atmospheric CO2L139[08:20:46] <MGR> Step
2: Strap heatsinks onto people
<MGR> Step
2: Strap heatsinks onto peopleL140[08:21:02] <Inari> Anyway, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAJeYe-abUA
L141[08:21:02] <MichiBot>
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L142[08:21:03] <Mettaton_Fab> nah, just
add fans to people!
L143[08:21:06] <MGR> Step
3: Make use of the thermo-electric effect to turn the heat into
electricity
<MGR> Step
3: Make use of the thermo-electric effect to turn the heat into
electricityL144[08:21:21] <MGR> Step
4: Use the electricity to power microwave lasers, which shoot the
energy into space
<MGR> Step
4: Use the electricity to power microwave lasers, which shoot the
energy into spaceL145[08:21:27] <MGR> There,
that should help reduce heat generation
<MGR> There,
that should help reduce heat generationL146[08:21:56] <Amerem>
what if you shot it at the sun maybe it would last longer
<Amerem>
what if you shot it at the sun maybe it would last longerL147[08:22:06] <Mettaton_Fab> so just
strap Peltier elements to people?
L148[08:22:32] <MGR>
@Amerem maybe what would last longer?
<MGR>
@Amerem maybe what would last longer?L149[08:22:36] ***
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L150[08:22:38] <Amerem> the
sun
<Amerem> the
sunL151[08:22:39] <MGR>
Mettaton_Fab, no
<MGR>
Mettaton_Fab, noL152[08:22:45] <MGR>
@Amerem that'
<MGR>
@Amerem that'L153[08:22:50] <MGR> s not
how the sun works
<MGR> s not
how the sun worksL154[08:22:53] <MalkContent> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtB2ZfVuLhY
L155[08:22:54] <MichiBot> The perfect
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L156[08:22:57] <MalkContent> is what i say
to that
L157[08:24:49] <Mettaton_Fab> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIx6_Srsrog
L158[08:24:49] <MichiBot> SAFETY
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Published On 28/5/2016
L159[08:28:36] <Forecaster> We cant even
manage several small citites
L160[08:28:41] <MalkContent> :D i saw the
title and had expectations for the video. one of the rare times
where expectations are met
L161[08:31:39] <Inari> Forecaster: We
couldn't even properly manage normal bombs and yet we made the
atomic bomb
L162[08:32:12] <Forecaster> yeah that
didn't turn out very well either did it :P
L163[08:32:26] <MGR>
Forecaster, it could though
<MGR>
Forecaster, it could thoughL164[08:32:34] <MGR> We
just need to resurrect Project Orion
<MGR> We
just need to resurrect Project OrionL165[08:32:55] <Mettaton_Fab> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRXKF3lMh8k
L166[08:32:55] <MichiBot> Battle Theme
- Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door | length: 1m 22s |
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| Published On 24/4/2012
L167[08:33:13] <MGR> It's
pretty much the only currently feasible technology that could get
humanity to another star in less than thousands of years
<MGR> It's
pretty much the only currently feasible technology that could get
humanity to another star in less than thousands of yearsL168[08:33:24] <Forecaster> none of that
is relevant to city management
L169[08:33:57] <MGR>
Forecaster yes, but you mentioned nukes
<MGR>
Forecaster yes, but you mentioned nukesL170[08:34:09] <Forecaster> no I
didn't
L171[08:34:20] <MGR> that
is correct, I misread
<MGR> that
is correct, I misreadL172[08:34:24] <MGR> Inari,
Project Orion
<MGR> Inari,
Project OrionL173[08:34:29] <MGR> we
need it
<MGR> we
need itL174[08:34:41] <Inari> ?
L175[08:35:11] <MGR> Inari,
Project Orion is the name for a spaceship technology where you
basically explode atomic bombs behind a spaceship to make it go
forwards really fast
<MGR> Inari,
Project Orion is the name for a spaceship technology where you
basically explode atomic bombs behind a spaceship to make it go
forwards really fastL176[08:35:20] <MGR> The
U.S.A. almost started testing it
<MGR> The
U.S.A. almost started testing itL177[08:35:24] <Inari> MGR: Why not use
the sun to accelearte a ship
L178[08:35:25] <Forecaster> well it's more
practical than the EM drive... I'll give it that
L179[08:35:38] <MGR> Inari,
it accelerates you faster
<MGR> Inari,
it accelerates you fasterL180[08:35:45] <MGR> also
it works in interstellar space
<MGR> also
it works in interstellar spaceL181[08:35:46] <Mettaton_Fab> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZ1f6BEkn_g
L182[08:35:47] <MichiBot> Petal Meadows
- Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door | length: 2m 11s |
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L183[08:35:54] <Inari> So does the sun
beam
L184[08:36:17] <MGR> the
what?
<MGR> the
what?L185[08:36:57] <Inari> You harvest sun
energy and shoot a laser at the spaceship
L186[08:37:08] <MGR>
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh
<MGR>
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhL187[08:37:13] <MGR> I
thought you meant solar sails
<MGR> I
thought you meant solar sailsL188[08:37:33] <MGR> laser
energy delivery is another valid method
<MGR> laser
energy delivery is another valid methodL189[08:37:50] <MGR> but it
doesn't sound as cool as RIDING NUCLEAR MISSILES IN SPACE
<MGR> but it
doesn't sound as cool as RIDING NUCLEAR MISSILES IN SPACEL190[08:38:03] <Inari> I'd rather not have
nukes go off all the time behind me :P
L191[08:38:09] <Forecaster> just because
it sounds cool doesn't mean it's actually practical
L192[08:38:14] <MGR>
Forecaster, but it is!
<MGR>
Forecaster, but it is!L193[08:38:21] <Inari> We could actually
build a working fusion plant right now
L194[08:38:23] <MGR> It's
more fuel efficient than rockets, and it is safe
<MGR> It's
more fuel efficient than rockets, and it is safeL195[08:38:31] <Inari> just dump on h-bomb
into a huge water basin and detonate it
L196[08:38:31] <MGR> Inari,
damn right we can
<MGR> Inari,
damn right we canL197[08:38:34] <Inari> collect the
heat
L198[08:38:35] <Inari> repeat
L199[08:38:35] <MGR>
yeeeeeeee
<MGR>
yeeeeeeeeL200[08:38:51] <MGR> Inari,
you get me if I was world dictator
<MGR> Inari,
you get me if I was world dictatorL201[08:39:00] <MGR> so
much crazy stuff would be going on, but it would be awesome
<MGR> so
much crazy stuff would be going on, but it would be awesomeL202[08:39:12] <Forecaster> hydrogen bombs
are fission, not fusion
L203[08:39:27] <MGR>
Forecaster, depends on how they are built
<MGR>
Forecaster, depends on how they are builtL204[08:39:35] <MGR> the
Tsar Bomba was 97% fusion energy derived
<MGR> the
Tsar Bomba was 97% fusion energy derivedL205[08:39:38] <Inari> "A
thermonuclear weapon is a nuclear weapon that uses the energy from
a primary nuclear fission reaction to compress and ignite a
secondary nuclear fusion reaction."
L206[08:39:44] <MGR> But
most are mostly fission energy based
<MGR> But
most are mostly fission energy basedL207[08:39:58] <MGR> Inari,
yes, but that fusion reaction just drives a really big fission
reaction
<MGR> Inari,
yes, but that fusion reaction just drives a really big fission
reactionL208[08:40:00] <Inari> So its both,
kinda
L209[08:40:01] <MGR> and
that makes the energy
<MGR> and
that makes the energyL210[08:40:09] <Inari> That makes no sense
:P
L211[08:40:15] <Inari> The fission
reaction makes the fusion one
L213[08:40:44] <MGR> Inari,
Uranium 238 needs high energy neutrons to fission
<MGR> Inari,
Uranium 238 needs high energy neutrons to fissionL214[08:40:56] <MGR> the
deuterium+tritium fusion makes a lot of high energy neutrons
<MGR> the
deuterium+tritium fusion makes a lot of high energy neutronsL215[08:40:58] <Inari> Eh, maybe
L216[08:41:02] <Inari> don't really care
much either way :P
L217[08:41:14] <MGR> they
fission the Uranium 238 blanket that is commonly placed around the
fusion center thing
<MGR> they
fission the Uranium 238 blanket that is commonly placed around the
fusion center thingL218[08:41:24] <MGR> and
the blanket makes most of the bang in the common designs
<MGR> and
the blanket makes most of the bang in the common designsL219[08:41:55] <Inari> Time to watch
embers spotlight
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L221[08:51:39] <S3> sigh
L222[08:51:59] <S3> technic keeps crashing
when I try to launch a modpack, and I can't find any errors in any
log files..
L223[08:52:49] <S3> oh I see the
issue
L224[08:52:57] <S3> they stuffed it in a
different log, it's segfaulting
L225[08:53:28] <Forecaster> http://imgur.com/gallery/psXSP
L226[08:53:35] <Forecaster> whaaat
L227[08:56:11] <S3> yeah..
L228[08:56:17] <S3> furture doors will be
like this.
L229[08:56:17] <S3> :D
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L231[08:57:50] <Forecaster> I don't really
see that working for actual doors
L232[08:59:31] <Totoro> you can't kick it
open if your hands is busy =)
L233[08:59:37] <Totoro> but it's
nice
L234[09:01:32] <Inari> Your hands are
busy, eh? :3
L235[09:01:40] <Totoro> yep, sorry
=)
L236[09:01:46] <Inari> Lewd
L237[09:01:47] <Forecaster> http://imgur.com/gallery/OTY0I
L238[09:02:16] <Totoro> i mean, yep there
is an mistake
L239[09:02:19] <Totoro> ЖЗ
L240[09:02:21] <Totoro> :P
L241[09:04:03] <Forecaster> a
mistake*
L242[09:04:09] <Totoro> o\
L243[09:06:09] ***
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L244[09:08:21] <Totoro> comments are as
fun, as the picture, for the last one
L245[09:14:29] <S3> The problem was nvidia
all along
L246[09:14:59] <MGR>
ENVVVVIDDDDDDDDIERRRRRRRRRRRRRR
<MGR>
ENVVVVIDDDDDDDDIERRRRRRRRRRRRRRL247[09:15:17] <MGR> S3,
did you update your drivers?
<MGR> S3,
did you update your drivers?L248[09:15:26] <MGR> They
came out with new ones within the past few days
<MGR> They
came out with new ones within the past few daysL249[09:15:37]
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drivers that suck
L251[09:16:49] <MGR> the
new ones or the old ones?
<MGR> the
new ones or the old ones?L252[09:16:49] <S3> I replaced em with the
proprietary drivers
L253[09:16:57] <MGR>
oh
<MGR>
ohL254[09:21:16] ⇦
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L255[09:22:59] <Totoro> and is OC still in
development, by the way?
L256[09:23:20] <Totoro> made a small
localization fixing PR a month ago
L257[09:23:32] <MGR>
Totoro, as far as I know: yes
<MGR>
Totoro, as far as I know: yesL258[09:23:37] <Totoro> still unmerged (or
unrejected)
L259[09:23:49] <MGR>
However, I had the Great Snagar has been away for a bit with
real-life concerns
<MGR>
However, I had the Great Snagar has been away for a bit with
real-life concernsL260[09:24:01] <Totoro> ah
L261[09:24:03] <Totoro> i see
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L266[10:03:41] <Forecaster> last I heard
he wanted someone to take over
L267[10:03:49] <MGR>
Forecaster, really?
<MGR>
Forecaster, really?L268[10:03:54] <MGR> I had
not heard that at all
<MGR> I had
not heard that at allL269[10:03:57] <Forecaster> you might poke
payonel about it, or Vexatos
L270[10:03:58] <MGR>
although I asked like a month ago
<MGR>
although I asked like a month agoL271[10:04:21] <MGR>
payonel / Vexatos, can you give us the info on what's going on with
Snagar and OC?
<MGR>
payonel / Vexatos, can you give us the info on what's going on with
Snagar and OC?L272[10:04:41] <Forecaster> I meant Totoro
about the PR
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L275[10:04:57] <MGR>
oh
<MGR>
ohL276[10:05:26] <MGR>
Forecaster, when did you hear Snagar wanted someone to take
over?
<MGR>
Forecaster, when did you hear Snagar wanted someone to take
over?L277[10:05:43] <Michiyo> like last week or
so, payo, vex, and gamax stepped up afaik
L278[10:05:52] <Forecaster> ^
L279[10:06:01] <MGR> I
would volunteer, but I have near 0 experience with modding ?
<MGR> I
would volunteer, but I have near 0 experience with modding ?L280[10:06:05] <MGR>
wow
<MGR>
wowL281[10:06:16] <MGR> this
is sad ?
<MGR> this
is sad ?L282[10:06:38] <MGR>
@Mimiru is Snagar still going to be involved, or is this the end
for him?
<MGR>
@Mimiru is Snagar still going to be involved, or is this the end
for him?L283[10:06:44] <MGR> what
about TIS-3D?
<MGR> what
about TIS-3D?L284[10:06:57] *
Michiyo shrugs
L285[10:07:03] <MichiBot> REMINDER Mimiru
hai
L286[10:07:11] <Forecaster> xD
L287[10:07:12] <Michiyo> o_O
L288[10:07:22] <Inari> Aw
L289[10:07:28] <Michiyo> Welp... I forget
when I set that lol
L290[10:07:54] <MGR> %seen
Sangar
<MGR> %seen
SangarL291[10:07:55] <Michiyo> 11/12/2016
[07:46:08] <Sangar> but yeah, seriously. i'll probably try
porting tis 3d to 1.10.2, and may continue circuity, but oc is just
such a massive time sink, i can't right now...
L292[10:08:00] <Michiyo> %seen
Sangar
L293[10:08:00] <MichiBot> Michiyo: Sangar
was last seen 38d 1h 34m 18s ago.
L294[10:08:10] <Michiyo> seen isn't
supported from Discord yet
L295[10:08:13] <MGR>
ah
<MGR>
ahL296[10:08:18] <Michiyo> Also... it's
wrong :P
L297[10:08:23] <MGR>
yeah
<MGR>
yeahL298[10:08:25] <Forecaster> I wonder what
would happen if you could make MichiBot run commands on a
delay
L299[10:08:26] <Michiyo> since 11/12 != 38
days
L300[10:08:28] <MGR> I was
just going to ask that
<MGR> I was
just going to ask thatL301[10:08:34] <Michiyo> Forecaster?
L302[10:08:40] ***
Keridos|away is now known as Keridos
L303[10:08:51] <Forecaster> like %remindme
but michibot runs a command instead :P
L304[10:08:52] <Inari> Could we notate
dates like sane people do
L305[10:08:56] <MGR>
Snagarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
<MGR>
Snagarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooL306[10:09:02] <Michiyo> Same day:
[07:41:25] <Sangar> so. serious talk. given my failure to
find/make time for oc. anyone up for taking it over?
L307[10:09:04] <Lizzy> lel, our eduroam
wifi broke because the auth server ran out of disk space
L308[10:09:14] <MGR> I
remember the days when Sangar was the first to update!
<MGR> I
remember the days when Sangar was the first to update!L309[10:09:20] <Inari> Michiyo:
Mwahahhaha
L310[10:09:21] <Michiyo> Oh... meh too
much effort Forecaster :P
L311[10:09:23] <Inari> Michiyo: I did set
that one
L312[10:09:24] <Inari> :P
L313[10:09:32] <Forecaster> yeah probably
:P
L314[10:09:40] <Michiyo> Inari..?
L315[10:09:42] <Vexatos> Lizzy, "you
won't believe they're teaching computer science here!"
L316[10:09:49] <Inari> Michiyo: The
reminder
L317[10:09:49] <Lizzy> Vexatos, ?
L318[10:10:03] <Michiyo> I'm..
confused
L319[10:10:09] <Vexatos> Lizzy, it's
ironic that a university teaching networking and such has issues
with their own servers :P
L320[10:10:20] <Forecaster> you can set
reminders for others?
L321[10:10:21] <MGR> well,
my day is a sad one now
<MGR> well,
my day is a sad one nowL322[10:10:24] <Vexatos> My uni has those
frequently
L323[10:10:33] <MGR> I will
certainly miss Snagar
<MGR> I will
certainly miss SnagarL324[10:10:43] <Michiyo> anyway MGR:
https://oclogs.pc-logix.com/parser?log=2016-11-12.log
7:40 ish is where it starts
L325[10:10:51] <Lizzy> Vexatos, our
academic side is seperate from our 'IT Team'
L326[10:10:54] <Inari> But but
L327[10:10:55] <Michiyo> Forecaster, I'm
pretty sure you can't...
L328[10:10:56] <MGR> thanks
@Mimiru
<MGR> thanks
@MimiruL329[10:10:59] <Inari> we can't blame
sangar anymore :<
L330[10:11:14] <Vexatos> Lizzy, well of
course
L331[10:11:14] <Inari> Michiyo: Your
system doesn't check nickserv or anything ;3
L332[10:11:17] <Vexatos> it's still
ironic
L333[10:11:17] <Michiyo> I mean.. you
might be able to /nick and do the command quickly before nickserv
boots you or something
L334[10:11:20] <Lizzy> I would not trust
99.999% of them with any sort of higher-access to the backend
stuff
L335[10:11:55] <Lizzy> but the reason the
auth servers ran out of disk space is because the logging is set
too verbose or something
L336[10:12:06] <Michiyo> Inari, it used
to, and the extra delay from whoing everyone on command was
annoying, and got me killed for excess flooding more than
once
L337[10:12:13] <Lizzy> and there doesn't
seem to be any log rotate daemon thing running on them
L338[10:12:37] <Inari> Michiyo: hhee
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L340[10:20:38] <Forecaster> you could
detect when someone changes nick and not allow them to use a
command for x seconds to let nickserv deal with them first
:>
L341[10:21:07] <MGR>
sangarrrrrrrrrrr whyyyyyyyyyy
<MGR>
sangarrrrrrrrrrr whyyyyyyyyyyL342[10:21:33] <Forecaster> because
time
L343[10:21:35] <MGR>
@Mimiru thanks for the log, I'm all caught up now hopefully ?
<MGR>
@Mimiru thanks for the log, I'm all caught up now hopefully ?L344[10:21:36] <Forecaster> lern 2
reed
L345[10:21:45] <MGR>
Forecaster, who needs a job?
<MGR>
Forecaster, who needs a job?L346[10:21:55] <Forecaster> people without
jobs
L347[10:22:02] <MGR> Sangar
should just wander the world homeless with his desktop strapped to
his back, developing OC as he wanders
<MGR> Sangar
should just wander the world homeless with his desktop strapped to
his back, developing OC as he wandersL348[10:24:27] <Lizzy> Forecaster,
depending on the library she uses (and/or how easy it is to add
said feature), there is the account-notify CAP which notifies a
client of account changes for anyone that it can 'see'
L349[10:24:48] <gamax92> ooooh
L350[10:25:26] <Forecaster> I don't
actually expect her to implement that :P
L351[10:25:29] <Forecaster> it's not that
important
L352[10:27:27] <Forecaster> mm
ginger-bread sponge cake
L353[10:27:53] <Michiyo> I have
account-notify but something was broken with it
L354[10:27:56] <Michiyo> I don't remember
what
L355[10:48:26] <Michiyo> Also, reading the
log, someone asked where MichiBot is located... Montreal,
Canada
L356[10:48:48] <Forecaster> but it's never
sorry
L357[10:49:38] <Michiyo> Right, cause it
was written by an American :p
L358[10:51:36] <Forecaster> :P
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L363[11:01:00] <Inari> Reminds me of CGP
Grey being annoyed at Apple watch
L364[11:01:21] <Inari> Because you
activate it and Siri goes "Wait a moment, I'll tell you when
I'm ready" or so
L365[11:01:36] <Inari> and it ticks him
off that the PC demands to tell him when its ready :P
L366[11:02:24] <Inari> Siri sitting there,
filing her nails "I'll be right with you, just a
second"
L367[11:03:03] <20kdc>
...if you had a choice, what would you replace Siri with?
<20kdc>
...if you had a choice, what would you replace Siri with?L368[11:03:11] <Inari> Hm?
L369[11:03:19] <Forecaster> Hal
L370[11:03:26] <20kdc>
^
<20kdc>
^L371[11:03:47] <Inari> Personally I like
Cortana. But the old Halo: CE Cortana
L372[11:03:52] <Inari> not this newfangled
cortana crap
L373[11:04:16] <20kdc>
Branding consistency, Microsoft, oil and water.
<20kdc>
Branding consistency, Microsoft, oil and water.L374[11:05:06] <20kdc>
There was a time when Microsoft's logo wasn't also their Windows
logo, and when the Windows logo actually had... y'know, *colours*
in it...
<20kdc>
There was a time when Microsoft's logo wasn't also their Windows
logo, and when the Windows logo actually had... y'know, *colours*
in it...L375[11:05:11] <DaMachinator> what version
of Lua does the latest OC version for 1.7.10 use?
L376[11:05:26] <Forecaster> since when was
cortana representative of microsofts brand
L377[11:05:27] <20kdc>
DaMachinator: pretty sure you can choose between 5.2 or 5.3
<20kdc>
DaMachinator: pretty sure you can choose between 5.2 or 5.3L378[11:05:40] ⇦
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L379[11:05:41] <Forecaster> (the halo
one)
L380[11:05:48] <DaMachinator> as in, it
understands both, or it's a config option?
L381[11:06:07] <DaMachinator> (yes, i went
through the configs; no, i don't remember the contents)
L382[11:06:08] <Forecaster> you switch by
shift-right-clicking with the cpu
L383[11:06:13] <DaMachinator> ah, thank
you
L384[11:06:29] <DaMachinator> i'll go with
5.3 since the reference materials seem to be readily available
online
L385[11:06:56] <MGR>
DaMachinator i use 5.2
<MGR>
DaMachinator i use 5.2L386[11:06:57] <20kdc>
Forecaster: I'd assume they named it Cortana as a reference, but
you can't go make a reference and then not properly follow it
through!
<20kdc>
Forecaster: I'd assume they named it Cortana as a reference, but
you can't go make a reference and then not properly follow it
through!L388[11:07:13] <Forecaster> yes you
can
L389[11:07:18] <MGR>
DaMachinator ^^^^^
<MGR>
DaMachinator ^^^^^L390[11:07:21] <DaMachinator> http://www.lua.org/manual/5.3/....
L391[11:07:39] <DaMachinator> is there any
huge difference...
L392[11:07:49] <20kdc>
Forecaster: It's physically possible, doesn't make it right!
<20kdc>
Forecaster: It's physically possible, doesn't make it right!L393[11:08:00] <DaMachinator> actually, do
CPU's default to 5.2 or 5.3 when first made
L394[11:08:05] <MGR>
DaMachinator, someone complained that 5.3 broke some scripts or
whatever
<MGR>
DaMachinator, someone complained that 5.3 broke some scripts or
whateverL395[11:08:06] <MGR>
5.2
<MGR>
5.2L396[11:08:09] <MGR> I
think
<MGR> I
thinkL397[11:08:10] <Forecaster> who
cares
L398[11:08:21] <DaMachinator> i'm not
using premade scripts
L399[11:08:31] <DaMachinator> i doubt
premade scripts exist to do what i want
L400[11:08:32] <MGR> I
meant old 5.2 programs
<MGR> I
meant old 5.2 programsL401[11:08:38] <MGR> what
do you want?
<MGR> what
do you want?L402[11:08:51] <DaMachinator> to not have
to babysit my rotarycraft extractor
L403[11:09:16] <MGR>
DaMachinator, did you test hooking a computer up to your RoC
setup?
<MGR>
DaMachinator, did you test hooking a computer up to your RoC
setup?L404[11:09:22] <DaMachinator> i plan to
make a microcontroller or something that will: 1) read slots in the
extractor 2) output a redstone signal based on this
information
L405[11:09:26] <MGR>
because every single RoC block is a cable/component
<MGR>
because every single RoC block is a cable/componentL406[11:09:30] <DaMachinator> uggh
L407[11:09:35] <DaMachinator> that's going
to be "fun"
L408[11:09:54] <MGR> I
would work on seeing if you can even get the computer to boot first
?
<MGR> I
would work on seeing if you can even get the computer to boot first
?L409[11:10:13] <DaMachinator> so i'm going
to need a machine with a component limit > ~10
L410[11:10:40] <MGR>
probs
<MGR>
probsL411[11:10:45] <MGR> I
don't know what your setup looks like
<MGR> I
don't know what your setup looks likeL412[11:10:51] <DaMachinator> 11
components
L413[11:11:00] <MGR> 11 RoC
blocks?
<MGR> 11 RoC
blocks?L414[11:11:05] <DaMachinator> yes
L415[11:11:13] <MGR> you
might be able to make it with a T3 CPU
<MGR> you
might be able to make it with a T3 CPUL416[11:11:24] <MGR>
depends on how many cards and drives and stuff you have in the
case
<MGR>
depends on how many cards and drives and stuff you have in the
caseL417[11:11:33] <DaMachinator> i'm using
the multi-directional clutch to switch between two sets of
gearboxes
L418[11:11:36] <Forecaster> you can up the
limit in the config to compensate for RoC
L419[11:11:37] <MGR> I
would test booting the computer first before you waste time on the
program
<MGR> I
would test booting the computer first before you waste time on the
programL420[11:11:52] <DaMachinator> cannot
servers handle more components attached?
L421[11:11:56] <MGR>
yes
<MGR>
yesL422[11:12:07] <Forecaster> servers can
use component buses
L423[11:12:12] <MGR> up to
48 with a T3 CPU + 3 T3 component buses if i recall correctly
<MGR> up to
48 with a T3 CPU + 3 T3 component buses if i recall correctlyL424[11:12:23] <Forecaster> which aren't
as expensive as cpu's
L425[11:12:36] <DaMachinator> That might
be what I end up using.
L426[11:13:06] <MGR>
probably
<MGR>
probablyL427[11:13:06] <Mettaton_Fab> anyone
knowledged in old CPUs?
L428[11:13:14] <DaMachinator> how old is
old
L429[11:13:27] <MGR> same
question here
<MGR> same
question hereL430[11:13:34] <MGR> and
what knowledge are you looking for?
<MGR> and
what knowledge are you looking for?L431[11:13:58] <Mettaton_Fab> Motorola
LSC99917P?
L432[11:14:04] <Mettaton_Fab> i have one
here.
L433[11:14:09] <MGR>
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
<MGR>
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhL434[11:14:12] <DaMachinator> i assume
that came out of a phone
L435[11:14:23] <DaMachinator> !help
L436[11:14:30] <MGR> I know
little outside of Intel or AMD
<MGR> I know
little outside of Intel or AMDL437[11:14:40] <MGR>
Mettaton_Fab, what do you want to know about it?
<MGR>
Mettaton_Fab, what do you want to know about it?L438[11:14:40] <Mettaton_Fab> out of an
old receiver or something like that.
L439[11:14:58] <Mettaton_Fab> what does it
do? how can i use this cpu?
L440[11:15:16] <MGR> A.
Stuff B. Probably for nothing
<MGR> A.
Stuff B. Probably for nothingL441[11:15:17] <20kdc>
...you just... *have* a CPU?
<20kdc>
...you just... *have* a CPU?L442[11:15:38] <Mettaton_Fab> i also have
the board for it.
L443[11:15:48] <Mettaton_Fab> but the
board doesnt work.
L444[11:15:50] <MGR> have
you Googled it?
<MGR> have
you Googled it?L445[11:16:06] <Mettaton_Fab> yes, but
only stuff thats not useful for me.
L446[11:16:26] <MGR> I
can't see it being of any use then
<MGR> I
can't see it being of any use thenL447[11:16:41] <DaMachinator> i also
googled the CPU
L448[11:16:43] <MGR> Maybe
check on Ebay to see if you can sell it
<MGR> Maybe
check on Ebay to see if you can sell itL449[11:16:58] <DaMachinator> i am finding
mostly inventory lists for warehouses that stock IC's
L450[11:17:09] <MGR>
same
<MGR>
sameL451[11:17:21] <Mettaton_Fab> it has a
formfactor like those old 6502 cpus.
L452[11:17:53] <DaMachinator> you're sure
this is a CPU and not a more-or-less purpose-built microprocessor
for a 2-way radio or something
L453[11:18:05] <MGR> DIP-40
format
<MGR> DIP-40
formatL454[11:18:19] <DaMachinator> things i
remember motorola making: radios, phones, and...more radios?
L455[11:18:55] <Mettaton_Fab> it is a
DIP-40 indeed.
L456[11:18:55] <DaMachinator>
Mettaton_Fab: what do you want to do with it assuming you can get
it to work?
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L459[11:19:14] <Mettaton_Fab> maybe do
stuff with it, whatever it can do?
L460[11:19:17] <MGR>
LOLOLOL
<MGR>
LOLOLOLL461[11:19:27] <MGR> It's
so old, Motorola deleted the datasheet for it
<MGR> It's
so old, Motorola deleted the datasheet for itL462[11:19:41] <DaMachinator> heh
L463[11:19:51] <MGR>
Mettaton_Fab, I find it hard to believe you can get it to do
anything useful
<MGR>
Mettaton_Fab, I find it hard to believe you can get it to do
anything usefulL464[11:20:03] <Mettaton_Fab> well,
atleast i can use the transformer from this thingie.
L465[11:20:04] <DaMachinator> if you want
to do stuff, get a raspberry pi?
L466[11:20:35] <DaMachinator> or at least
something for which documentation actually exists?
L467[11:20:53] <Mettaton_Fab> the
transformer puts out 21.5, 16.5 and 9.5V
L468[11:21:03] <DaMachinator> that
actually seems fairly useful
L469[11:21:19] <DaMachinator> might want
to test how well rectified that is, though
L470[11:21:30] <MGR>
Mettaton_Fab, its value to you is ~0
<MGR>
Mettaton_Fab, its value to you is ~0L471[11:22:40] <Mettaton_Fab> there also
seems to be a ROM chip.
L472[11:23:39] <MGR>
Mettaton_Fab, where did you get this stuff?
<MGR>
Mettaton_Fab, where did you get this stuff?L473[11:24:02] <Mettaton_Fab> from my
stepbro, he went to a flea market.
L474[11:24:04] <DaMachinator> it's pretty
easy to get old broken stuff because it's old and broken and nobody
wants it
L475[11:24:12] <DaMachinator> especially
if you know someone ^^
L476[11:25:17] <MGR>
Mettaton_Fab, you should embed it in plastic or something and put
it on a keychain
<MGR>
Mettaton_Fab, you should embed it in plastic or something and put
it on a keychainL477[11:25:28] <DaMachinator>
Mettaton_Fab: do you know anyone who, say, works at an ISP or in
the 2-way radio business?
L478[11:25:30] <MGR> Then
it would look cool
<MGR> Then
it would look coolL479[11:25:41] <DaMachinator> especially
if it's a small business
L480[11:25:45] <MGR> Just
like how Intel used to give its employees defective Pentium
4's
<MGR> Just
like how Intel used to give its employees defective Pentium
4'sL481[11:27:06] <Mettaton_Fab> i would turn
it into a keychain, if i had epoxy
L482[11:27:26] <MGR> buy
some
<MGR> buy
someL483[11:27:42] <MGR> quite
literally, that's the only way I can imagine it having any value
exceeding $10 USD
<MGR> quite
literally, that's the only way I can imagine it having any value
exceeding $10 USDL484[11:29:00] <DaMachinator> i wonder how
much breadboard kits go for these days
L485[11:29:03] <DaMachinator> those are
fun
L486[11:29:21] <MGR>
yeah
<MGR>
yeahL487[11:29:21] <DaMachinator> especially
the ones with an integrated power supply and some components
L488[11:29:28] <Inari> http://i.imgur.com/99iw2bp.jpg
L489[11:29:40] <DaMachinator> s/integrated
power supply/a place to put batteries/
L490[11:29:40] <MichiBot>
<DaMachinator> especially the ones with an a place to put
batteries and some components
L491[11:29:46] <MGR>
DaMachinator, I know there are sites that let you design circuit
boards virtually
<MGR>
DaMachinator, I know there are sites that let you design circuit
boards virtuallyL492[11:29:50] <DaMachinator> well
L493[11:29:54] <DaMachinator> ja
L494[11:29:57] <DaMachinator> go on
curseforge
L495[11:30:04] <DaMachinator> download
project:RED
L496[11:30:08] <DaMachinator> install in
1.7.10
L497[11:30:13] <DaMachinator> make custom
circuit boards
L498[11:30:26] <DaMachinator> lag your
game to hell by making an ascii display driver
L499[11:30:28] <DaMachinator>
ragequit
L500[11:30:30] <DaMachinator> profit
L501[11:30:46] <DaMachinator> And yes, I
did make a working ASCII display driver.
L502[11:31:14] <DaMachinator> 8 bit input
bus to any printable ASCII character on a 3x5 display made of
lamps.
L503[11:31:44] <MGR>
DaMachinator, that's not what I meant, but ok
<MGR>
DaMachinator, that's not what I meant, but okL504[11:31:55] <MGR> also
Project Red isn't one file, it's 50 XD
<MGR> also
Project Red isn't one file, it's 50 XDL505[11:32:08] <DaMachinator> i think you
can get away with 3 or 4
L506[11:32:23] <payonel> Inari: :D that
looks uncomfortable tbh
L507[11:32:25] <DaMachinator> if you can
do without the worldgen and the tools and the logistics
system
L508[11:33:10] <DaMachinator> http://www.falstad.com/circuit/
L509[11:33:17] <DaMachinator> found
one
L510[11:33:21] <Inari> payonel: So now
that Sangar has stepped down, I can PR more lewd stuff into
OC
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L512[11:35:11] <MGR> is
there an official successor(s) to Snagar yet?
<MGR> is
there an official successor(s) to Snagar yet?L513[11:35:43] <payonel> Inari: I'll
accept all your lewds
L514[11:35:58] <Inari> You make it sound
slike a marraige proposal
L515[11:36:07] *
payonel blushes
L516[11:36:09] <MGR> so, is
OC going to become OpenLewd?
<MGR> so, is
OC going to become OpenLewd?L517[11:36:22] <Inari> We can integrate
buttplug
L518[11:36:32] <gamax92> tails
L519[11:36:33] <Inari> https://github.com/metafetish/buttplug that
L520[11:36:46] <payonel> mgr: no official
author/owner. we'll be closing bugs over time, and it'll probably
be 'by committee' for a time
L521[11:37:18] <Inari> Committees always
work well
L522[11:37:18] <gamax92> Inari:
"things that may not specifically be HID" sex toys are
human interface devices
L523[11:37:35] <MGR>
payonel, ok
<MGR>
payonel, okL524[11:37:48] <Inari> gamax92: :P
L525[11:39:06] <payonel> i'd be glad to
run the show but clearly vex and gamax92 know more about the mod
and its code than i do, they both have more experience with the
community than i do. and they're both more active here than i am. i
probably missed a few other reasons :) oh right, i'm still reading
about scala from time to time on the bus to work
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L527[11:39:59] <payonel> oh and i'm still
crap at gradle and IDEA
L528[11:40:10] <MGR>
payonel, yes, I'm aware that you're not the most active
<MGR>
payonel, yes, I'm aware that you're not the most activeL529[11:40:21] <Corded> * MGR points at
his messages about full-ls
L530[11:40:22] <MGR>
?
<MGR>
?L531[11:40:41] <payonel> i responded to
the full-ls stuff :)
L532[11:41:25] <MGR>
eventually
<MGR>
eventuallyL533[11:41:27] <payonel> gamax92: i missed
a ping from oyu
L534[11:41:28] <payonel> you*
L535[11:41:46] <payonel> mgr: well it's
not like i have irc on my phone to buzz me :)
L536[11:43:01] <MGR>
payonel, I technically do, but i don't have a large data plan, so I
never turn it
<MGR>
payonel, I technically do, but i don't have a large data plan, so I
never turn itL537[11:43:01] <MGR>
on
<MGR>
onL538[11:43:21]
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L539[11:43:26] <MGR> you
could get an app or something, I use AndroIRC, and it was ok-enough
quality
<MGR> you
could get an app or something, I use AndroIRC, and it was ok-enough
qualityL540[11:43:56]
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L541[11:46:34] <gamax92> AndChat: dead,
but still great
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L543[11:47:52] <DaMachinator> it's a small
world
L544[11:47:59] <DaMachinator> ooh
computers make cool sounds
L545[11:48:07] <DaMachinator> i am like a
5-year-old with a new toy
L546[11:48:20] <MGR>
DaMachinator, the world is slowly getting bigger
<MGR>
DaMachinator, the world is slowly getting biggerL547[11:48:29] <MGR> also,
what computers?
<MGR> also,
what computers?L548[11:48:44] <DaMachinator>
OpenComputers
L549[11:49:06] <Mettaton_Fab> Inari, do a
lewd thing!
L550[11:49:11] <DaMachinator> grow
up
L551[11:49:46] <gamax92> growing up is so
lewd
L552[11:53:21] *
Michiyo sighs
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L554[11:53:36] <Michiyo> I swear if my
phone case comes in after lunch I'm going to hit my UPS
driver
L555[11:54:06] <MalkContent> ?
L556[11:54:15] <MGR>
Mimiru, what's the rush?
<MGR>
Mimiru, what's the rush?L557[11:54:51] <MalkContent> then he's
just gonna be "nah, you're not getting this. you are gonna hit
me if you do"
L558[11:55:08] <Forecaster> or she'll do
it after she's gotten it
L559[11:55:12] <MGR> Nah, I
think he'll fight back
<MGR> Nah, I
think he'll fight backL560[11:55:16] <Michiyo> No
"rush".. it's just they've *always* delivered to my house
by now.. and this time they've not done so
L561[11:55:17] <MalkContent> and what's
this talk about turning it into opencomlewders
L562[11:55:26] <Corded> * MGR begins
envisioning epic combat between Mimiru and UPS driver
L563[11:55:36] <Michiyo> Also.. I mean
I'll hit the driver that comes to RadioShack for pickups :P
L564[11:55:41] <MGR>
ahh
<MGR>
ahhL565[11:55:53] <MGR> double
ahh
<MGR> double
ahhL566[11:56:18] <Michiyo> She's usually
done with deliveries when she starts her pickup route
L567[11:56:33] <MGR> are
you checking the tracking data from work?
<MGR> are
you checking the tracking data from work?L568[11:56:38] <Michiyo> Also.. I don't
get lunch today, I have to pickup Naomi and go to the bank so we
can fill out paperwork
L569[11:56:48] <Michiyo> yes.. where I'm
also chatting on IRC from :P
L570[11:56:54] <MGR> I
figured
<MGR> I
figuredL571[11:57:02] <MGR> maybe
they haven't updated the tracking data?
<MGR> maybe
they haven't updated the tracking data?L572[11:57:35] <Michiyo> Doubtful, also
Naomi hasn't told me it's been delivered sooooo
L573[11:57:51] <MGR> that
is true
<MGR> that
is trueL574[11:57:51] <Mettaton_Fab> what can i
do with a 3-digit, 7-segment display?
L575[11:58:02] <MGR>
Mettaton_Fab, smash things
<MGR>
Mettaton_Fab, smash thingsL576[11:58:03] <Forecaster> display up to
3 digits
L577[11:58:13] <MGR> in up
to 7 segments!
<MGR> in up
to 7 segments!L578[11:58:32] ⇦
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L579[11:58:42] <Michiyo> ^
L580[11:59:06] *
Lizzy is not sure why she's now invisioning Michiyo and Naomi as
ninjas but constantly flirting with one another as they battle
enemies
L581[11:59:07] <Michiyo> I'm out for a
bit... later
L582[11:59:22] <Forecaster> using
somewhere between 2 and 21 segments
L583[11:59:24] <Michiyo> Lizzy, basically,
yes. :P
L584[11:59:52] <DaMachinator>
Mettaton_Fab: make a 999-second countdown clock
L585[12:00:02] <Mettaton_Fab> but
how?
L586[12:00:49] <DaMachinator> well, you'll
need a 7-segment display driver
L587[12:00:58] <DaMachinator> probably 3,
actually
L588[12:01:08] <Lizzy> start at 999, keep
subtracting one until you get down to 0, then you're done
L589[12:04:12] <MalkContent> you could
also use it to make this face: O_O
L590[12:04:23] <MalkContent> or this, if
you have smaller eyes: o_o
L591[12:04:30] <MalkContent> or this one
if you're asian: -_-
L592[12:04:36] <MGR> what
about o_O or 0_o?
<MGR> what
about o_O or 0_o?L593[12:04:36] <MalkContent> :D
L594[12:04:42] *
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L596[12:06:17] <MalkContent> well i
thought implying that he had grossly uneven eyes was kinda uncalled
for. i draw the line behind mild racism and before making fun of
disfigured people
L597[12:06:38] <MGR> I
wasn't trying to depict a realistic face
<MGR> I
wasn't trying to depict a realistic faceL598[12:07:05] <DaMachinator> lol
L599[12:07:11] <MalkContent> lol i
know
L600[12:07:20] <DaMachinator> clearly this
filesystem belongs to an IRL computer system
L601[12:07:28] <DaMachinator> clearly i do
not know how to use said filesystem
L602[12:07:56] <DaMachinator> time to look
up how to use Unix command-line since idk what i'm doing
L603[12:08:03] <MGR> use
ls
<MGR> use
lsL604[12:08:12] <MGR> unless
it's super complicated and just calls another program
<MGR> unless
it's super complicated and just calls another programL605[12:08:17] <Corded> * MGR pokes
payonel :P
L606[12:10:18] <payonel> DaMachinator: the
fs (filesystem) you see in the oc env in-game?
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L608[12:11:19] <DaMachinator> yes...
L609[12:11:24] <DaMachinator> i wish to
write programs and store them on a blank floppy disk to play
around
L610[12:11:41] <DaMachinator> my
"blank" floppy disk has magically acquired enough folders
to take up about 50% of it's disk space
L611[12:12:06] <MGR> put it
in a crafting table and take it out
<MGR> put it
in a crafting table and take it outL612[12:12:20] <MGR> or
right click it and switch from managed to unmanaged and back to
managed
<MGR> or
right click it and switch from managed to unmanaged and back to
managedL613[12:12:26] <MGR> that
should reblank it
<MGR> that
should reblank itL614[12:12:35] <payonel> DaMachinator:
what do you mean the fs "belongs" to an irl system? Are
you referring to how the files are saved on (real) disk? The files
you save on a floppy or hdd are saved to your host machine in
world/opencomputers/...
L615[12:12:36] <MGR> also,
did you install OpenOS to it?
<MGR> also,
did you install OpenOS to it?L616[12:12:56]
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L617[12:12:57] <DaMachinator> i am
referring to that it appears to be a clone of a real
filesystem
L618[12:13:05] <DaMachinator> i think i
bricked OpenOS
L619[12:13:50] <MGR>
...
<MGR>
...L620[12:14:04] <payonel> DaMachinator: ah
yes, definitely, it is designed to behave and look just like a real
system
L621[12:14:14] <payonel> and the shell is
very bash-like
L622[12:14:24] <20kdc>
...let me guess, you installed OpenOS to a floppy, not an
HDD?
<20kdc>
...let me guess, you installed OpenOS to a floppy, not an
HDD?L623[12:14:36] <DaMachinator> no, i
installed it to an HDD
L624[12:15:07] <20kdc>
so... you installed it to an HDD, but a floppy's 50% full.
<20kdc>
so... you installed it to an HDD, but a floppy's 50% full.L625[12:15:18] <DaMachinator> a floppy i
put in after i installed openOS
L626[12:15:52] <payonel> 20kdc: hey, the
other day you said there are many places in openos that could be
memory optimized
L627[12:15:59] <payonel> did you have any
examples?
L628[12:16:13] <DaMachinator> idk what i
did...
L629[12:16:20] <20kdc>
payonel: why, exactly, does OpenOS load up quite a lot of APIs just
to boot...?
<20kdc>
payonel: why, exactly, does OpenOS load up quite a lot of APIs just
to boot...?L630[12:16:26] <20kdc> it's
not like the shell uses devfs
<20kdc> it's
not like the shell uses devfsL631[12:16:28] <DaMachinator> what i think
it did
L632[12:16:34] <DaMachinator> s/it/i
L633[12:16:34] <MichiBot> DaMachinator:
Invalid regex invalid script for sed substitute command:
s/it/i
L634[12:16:37] <DaMachinator>
whatever
L635[12:16:56] <payonel> s/it/i/
L636[12:16:56] <MichiBot>
<DaMachinator> what i think i did
L637[12:17:11] <20kdc> I
mean, devfs is useful, I wouldn't doubt for a second, but the shell
won't use it, and edit won't use it unless the user was asking to
edit that file
<20kdc> I
mean, devfs is useful, I wouldn't doubt for a second, but the shell
won't use it, and edit won't use it unless the user was asking to
edit that fileL638[12:17:14] <DaMachinator> I think I
labeled the floppy disk "prog" and then mounted it to
"/prg".
L639[12:17:16] <20kdc> It's
things like that
<20kdc> It's
things like thatL640[12:17:22] <MGR>
test
<MGR>
testL641[12:17:23] <MGR>
nvm
<MGR>
nvmL642[12:17:30] <20kdc>
which cause edit to be unrunnable on a 192k system (last I
checked)
<20kdc>
which cause edit to be unrunnable on a 192k system (last I
checked)L643[12:17:34] <20kdc>
which cause edit to be unrunnable on a 192k system (last I checked,
64-bit)
<20kdc>
which cause edit to be unrunnable on a 192k system (last I checked,
64-bit)L644[12:17:45] <DaMachinator> Then: cd
/prg; list files shows a bunch of folders
L645[12:17:47] <MGR> ~w
devfs
<MGR> ~w
devfsL646[12:17:51] <MGR>
argh
<MGR>
arghL647[12:17:53] <DaMachinator> removing
those folders does something
L648[12:17:55] <MGR> what
is devfs?
<MGR> what
is devfs?L649[12:17:55] ⇦
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L650[12:18:05] <DaMachinator> computer
decides to not
L651[12:18:09] <20kdc>
...gtg ?
<20kdc>
...gtg ?L652[12:18:30] <DaMachinator> i might have
erased the EEPROM or something, since it works after I put a new
Lua OS eeprom in
L653[12:18:33] <payonel> 20kdc: there are
no apis booted that are not required for boot. devfs is not fully
loaded on boot, in fact -- the absolute minimum is loaded for there
to even exist a dir, but the library of files of devfs are not
loaded until you visit the dir
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L655[12:18:55] <payonel> also, /bin/edit
has been unusable in a low mem system since before 1.5
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L657[12:19:27] <payonel> yes i lowered the
mem cost in openos 1.6 by ~40k (e.g. 1.6 can actually booy on low
mem now) but edit needs even more
L658[12:19:31] <MGR> can
someone explain to the unenlightened what devfs is?
<MGR> can
someone explain to the unenlightened what devfs is?L659[12:19:40] <payonel> mgr: /dev
stuff
L660[12:19:54] <MGR>
?
<MGR>
?L661[12:20:12] <MGR> I
don't have MC handy, so I can't investigate personally ?
<MGR> I
don't have MC handy, so I can't investigate personally ?L662[12:20:14] <payonel> mgr: are you on a
real *nix machine atm? `ls /dev`
L663[12:20:34] <MGR> I am
not
<MGR> I am
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L665[12:21:35] <payonel> 20kdc: also,
shell definitely can use /dev (again, it isn't loaded until you
visit it) -- for example, `some_command 2>/dev/null`
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L667[12:22:12] <MGR> so
devfs manages the filesystem for the /dev folder only?
<MGR> so
devfs manages the filesystem for the /dev folder only?L668[12:22:16] <MGR> that
seems redundant?
<MGR> that
seems redundant?L669[12:22:27] <payonel> /dev is a devfs
mount point
L670[12:22:41] <payonel> technically.
someone could use /lib/devfs to create their own devfs mount
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L672[12:22:50] <MGR> so
/dev is a manifestation of devfs
<MGR> so
/dev is a manifestation of devfsL673[12:22:53] <payonel> the can also use
/lib/devfs to create special devfs points in /dev
L674[12:22:54] <MGR> which
is a custom filesystem?
<MGR> which
is a custom filesystem?L675[12:22:54] ***
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L676[12:23:05] <MGR> why
not just use regular filesystem.lua?
<MGR> why
not just use regular filesystem.lua?L677[12:23:09] <payonel> it is what i
would call functional filesystem
L678[12:23:17] <gamax92> lol MGR ...
L679[12:23:19] <payonel> you could say it
is a subtype of filesystem
L680[12:23:55] <payonel> 20kdc: any other
suggestions?
L681[12:23:57] <MGR> then
why can't /lib/filesystem.lua assume its functionality if
filesystem is a superset of devfs?
<MGR> then
why can't /lib/filesystem.lua assume its functionality if
filesystem is a superset of devfs?L682[12:24:24] <payonel> /lib/filesystem
manages the "drivers" of mount points
L683[12:24:32] <payonel> devfs is a driver
of a functional filesystem
L684[12:25:20] <MGR>
...
<MGR>
...L685[12:25:29] <MGR>
okay
<MGR>
okayL686[12:25:47] <payonel> by functional i
mean, it is executing functions
L687[12:25:53] <payonel> instead of ...
files on disk
L688[12:26:21] *
gamax92 gives payonel a 'virtual'
L689[12:26:22] <MGR>
oh
<MGR>
ohL690[12:26:33] <MGR> then
why call it a filesystem?
<MGR> then
why call it a filesystem?L691[12:26:39] <gamax92> because it's a
filesystem
L692[12:26:47] <payonel> because it
behaves exactly like one
L693[12:26:50] <payonel> it has files and
folders
L694[12:26:56] <MGR> but
there aren't files, just functions
<MGR> but
there aren't files, just functionsL695[12:27:00] <gamax92> there are
files
L696[12:27:02] <payonel> you can open file
handles, write/read to/from them
L697[12:27:23] <payonel> mgr: under the
hood there function handlers for all the operations
L698[12:27:35] <payonel> but in the
filesystem to the user, it appears and acts like other paths
L699[12:27:42] <MGR>
hm
<MGR>
hmL700[12:27:56] <payonel> - except with
possible, and custom side effects
L701[12:28:06] <MGR> it
just seems like if it represented itself as functions, it would be
more understandable and less misleading
<MGR> it
just seems like if it represented itself as functions, it would be
more understandable and less misleadingL702[12:28:20] <gamax92> that doesn't make
sense
L703[12:28:26] <payonel> mgr: this is the
tradition of *nix /dev
L704[12:28:31] <gamax92> a file system has
files and folders and links
L705[12:28:36] <gamax92> devfs is a
filesystem, it has files and folders
L706[12:28:52] <MGR> But
they're just functions
<MGR> But
they're just functionsL707[12:28:56] <payonel> >.<
L708[12:29:09] <MGR> In my
<i>opinion</i>, it seems misleading
<MGR> In my
<i>opinion</i>, it seems misleadingL709[12:29:13] <payonel> mgr: i have a
call, i'll be right back
L710[12:29:37] <gamax92> the files and
folder in devfs, aren't back by an actual drive component, but by
an in memory layout where reading and writing these virtual files
calls a function to handle the response
L711[12:30:04] <MGR> I'm
aware of that now
<MGR> I'm
aware of that nowL712[12:32:03] ⇦
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L713[12:47:33] <payonel> mgr: for example,
you can open a file handle to /dev/null, to your code, to looks
just like any other file handle: local f =
io.open("/dev/null")
L714[12:47:43] <payonel> you can write to
it: f:write("hello world")
L715[12:47:47] <payonel> and close it:
f:close()
L716[12:47:56] <MGR>
ok
<MGR>
okL717[12:48:27] <payonel> when you do this
with a traditional file handle, you are writing to a disk driver
that writes to the disk
L718[12:48:51] <MGR> at
this point, while I don't have the specific functions understood
other than dev/null because I don't have the code to look at, I
understand what devfs (/dev) does
<MGR> at
this point, while I don't have the specific functions understood
other than dev/null because I don't have the code to look at, I
understand what devfs (/dev) doesL719[12:49:04] <MGR> I just
disagree with how it is presented
<MGR> I just
disagree with how it is presentedL720[12:49:15] <gamax92> /dev/zero outputs
a bunch of zeros
L721[12:49:27] <gamax92> or well, null
bytes
L722[12:49:31] <gamax92> which is
zero
L723[12:49:33] <payonel> but with the
devfs driver, you get a specialized handle -- every file in /dev
can behave in its own way, and /dev/null has its own "handle
provider""
L724[12:49:41] <Michiyo> And... I'm back
from lunch and phone case-less
L725[12:49:48] <gamax92> Michiyo: :(
L726[12:50:01] <payonel> so when you call
f:write() on a handle from /dev/null, you are actually calling an
empty write function { function write() end }
L727[12:50:18] <Michiyo> I did however get
Naomi added to our new bank and savings accounts
L728[12:50:33] <Michiyo> and also found
out they've yet to deposit the $50 they deducted from my other
card....
L729[12:50:35] *
Michiyo sighs
L730[12:50:38] <MGR>
payonel, I'm aware of what /dev/null does
<MGR>
payonel, I'm aware of what /dev/null doesL731[12:50:58] <MGR> it's
literally the only /dev thing I've heard of before now ?
<MGR> it's
literally the only /dev thing I've heard of before now ?L732[12:51:16] <payonel> mgr: i'm not
trying to explain /dev/null - but rather, i'm giving you literal
steps of how devfs works
L733[12:51:33] <MGR> I have
a good framework of an understanding of devfs
<MGR> I have
a good framework of an understanding of devfsL734[12:51:37] <payonel> using /dev/null
as the example because i assumed you were aware of it - from the
user's perspective at least
L735[12:51:48] <payonel> here is /dev/null
code: https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/blob/master-MC1.7.10/src/main/resources/assets/opencomputers/loot/openos/lib/tools/devfs/null.lua
L736[12:51:52] <MGR> I just
disagree with how the functions are represented
<MGR> I just
disagree with how the functions are representedL737[12:52:35] <payonel> mgr: how would
you suggest they be represented?
L738[12:52:46] <MGR> as
functions
<MGR> as
functionsL739[12:52:57] <MGR>
probably like any other library
<MGR>
probably like any other libraryL740[12:53:19] <MGR>
gamax92, does OpenOS have /dev/zero, because i didn't see it
<MGR>
gamax92, does OpenOS have /dev/zero, because i didn't see itL741[12:53:29] <payonel> everything in
devfs already is a function
L742[12:53:32] <gamax92> payonel: does
OpenOS have /dev/zero
L743[12:53:39] <payonel> it is a function
first, devfs merely exposes functions as files
L744[12:53:56] <payonel> no, only null,
random, eeprom, and eeprom-data
L745[12:53:59] <MGR>
payonel, yes
<MGR>
payonel, yesL746[12:54:00] <gamax92> oh
L747[12:54:08] <MGR> I
would just skip the file representation step
<MGR> I
would just skip the file representation stepL748[12:54:14] <gamax92> that's
stupid
L749[12:54:31] <payonel> mgr:
"skip" for what benefit?
L750[12:54:55] <MGR> A.
Making me feel better B. Having a slightly more straightforward
representation
<MGR> A.
Making me feel better B. Having a slightly more straightforward
representationL751[12:55:16] <gamax92> MGR: the entire
point of devfs is fuctions exposed as files, otherwise you can stop
complaining that it's useless and just use the equivalent lua
function if you don't need it as a file
L752[12:55:17] *
payonel has a mtg
L753[12:55:19] <MGR> I'm
not saying you should change OpenOS, I'm just saying that I think
it's a suboptimal system
<MGR> I'm
not saying you should change OpenOS, I'm just saying that I think
it's a suboptimal systemL754[12:55:43] <MGR> I'm
not saying it's useless gamax92
<MGR> I'm
not saying it's useless gamax92L755[12:55:46] <Michiyo> payonel, has
Magic the Gathering!
L756[12:55:50] <gamax92> yes you are
L757[12:55:55] <DaMachinator> is there a
character that goes at the end of a line of lua code
L758[12:55:57] <MGR>
?
<MGR>
?L759[12:56:18] <Michiyo> DaMachinator,
IIRC you can use ; if you want to... but no one does
L760[12:56:51] <DaMachinator> var someVar
= 234; //Javascript, lines MUST end in ';' (or sometimes '}' with
functions)
L761[12:57:45] <MGR>
gamax92, I'm not trying to say devfs is useless, but I don't want
to argue my opinion
<MGR>
gamax92, I'm not trying to say devfs is useless, but I don't want
to argue my opinionL762[12:57:51] <MGR> It's
only my opinion after all
<MGR> It's
only my opinion after allL763[12:58:49] <gamax92> example,
/dev/eeprom and /dev/eeprom-data is a thing, allowing you to change
eeprom contents using any ol editor
L764[12:59:12] <gamax92> or simple
flashing by piping data to it
L765[12:59:51] <DaMachinator> my things
are not working
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L767[12:59:58] <Matthew45> hi
L768[13:00:10] <MGR>
gamax92, I'm not saying there aren't any uses for it
<MGR>
gamax92, I'm not saying there aren't any uses for itL769[13:00:11] <DaMachinator> trying to
make an autorun file to mount a hard drive automatically to
"/hdd/"
L770[13:00:16] <MGR> I
believe there are valid uses
<MGR> I
believe there are valid usesL771[13:00:18] <gamax92> @MGR Yopu
L772[13:00:26] <MGR> Hello
Matthew45, how are you?
<MGR> Hello
Matthew45, how are you?L773[13:00:28] <DaMachinator>
fs.mount(..., /hdd/) ?
L774[13:00:28] <gamax92> You're saying
that you want the entire core functionality to be changed
L775[13:00:30] <MGR>
gamax92, Yopu?
<MGR>
gamax92, Yopu?L776[13:01:05] <Matthew45> Fine
L777[13:01:43] <MGR> that's
good
<MGR> that's
goodL778[13:01:57] <DaMachinator> grrr
L779[13:02:18] <DaMachinator> in what
format do i give fs.mount() a path
L780[13:02:21] <gamax92> another example:
computronics tape drives have yet again a different interface for
managing data compared to eeproms or managed drives
L781[13:02:38] <MGR>
gamax92, it's similar to unmanaged mode, right?
<MGR>
gamax92, it's similar to unmanaged mode, right?L782[13:02:41] <gamax92> devfs allows all
of that to be easily wrapped as a file for simple usage
L783[13:02:45] <Matthew45> i wish ytdl was
updated
L784[13:02:59] <DaMachinator> i wish i had
more patience
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L787[13:04:45] <DaMachinator> would
someone please explain to me why fs.mount(...,/hdd/) in
"autorun.lua" on the root directory of a hard drive
crashes on startup
L788[13:04:57] <gamax92> are you quoting
the string?
L789[13:05:00] <DaMachinator> not the
whole computer, just the autorun file
L790[13:05:02] <MGR> did
you do local fs = require("filesystem")
<MGR> did
you do local fs = require("filesystem")L791[13:05:06]
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L792[13:05:07] <DaMachinator> no i did
not
L793[13:05:14] <MGR> that
would be why ?
<MGR> that
would be why ?L794[13:05:20] <Skye> Lizzy,
CompanionCube, Stary, the snooper's charter is now law. Welcome to
1984, I mean 2016
L795[13:05:34] <gamax92> the /hdd/ part is
also supposed to be a string, as in: fs.mount(...,
"/hdd/")
L796[13:05:34] <DaMachinator> gamax92: i
typed exactly what i put in chat
L797[13:05:40] <MGR> Skye,
did that petition thing not work?
<MGR> Skye,
did that petition thing not work?L798[13:05:41] <DaMachinator> thanks
L799[13:06:45] <gamax92> ~w tutorial hard
drives
L800[13:06:45] <ocdoc> Predicted http://ocd.cil.li/tutorial:oc3_hard_drives
L801[13:06:55] <gamax92> DaMachinator:
http://i.imgur.com/pfXbxI4.png
L802[13:07:01] <DaMachinator> it
worked
L803[13:07:22] <gamax92> also wow these
are old screenshots, need to replace them ...
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L806[13:07:38] <DaMachinator> gamax92: i
have that page open; it doesn't help if everything is new to
me
L807[13:07:50] <gamax92> DaMachinator: it
does help if you type it the same way you see it ;D
L808[13:08:28] <DaMachinator> i typed it
the same way as i saw it
L809[13:08:50] <DaMachinator> perchance
does the wiki use imgur to host images
L810[13:08:50] <gamax92> which is why you
somehow missed the entire 'local fs' line and the quotation
marks?
L811[13:08:58] <gamax92> that is imgur
yes
L812[13:09:12] <DaMachinator> school
webfilter hates you
L813[13:09:22] <DaMachinator> and me too
but *shrug*
L814[13:09:28] <gamax92> too bad it's a
good host
L815[13:09:33] <DaMachinator> indeed
L816[13:09:58] <gamax92> I'm going to go
redo those screenshots though ...
L817[13:10:11] <MGR>
gamax92, why?
<MGR>
gamax92, why?L818[13:10:17] <gamax92> oh wait ... the
wiki can host it's own images, why is it using imgur :/
L819[13:10:18] <MGR> what's
wrong with the one you posted?
<MGR> what's
wrong with the one you posted?L820[13:10:19] <DaMachinator> the funny
thing is that the wiki fails gracefully, leaving me with absolutely
no indication that there was ever an image there
L821[13:10:28] <gamax92> @MGR it's very
old
L822[13:10:50] <MGR> I
didn't notice any differences
<MGR> I
didn't notice any differencesL823[13:10:53] <gamax92> >_>
L824[13:11:07] <gamax92> yes you didn't
notice the entire font having since changed from this screenshot
... twice.
L825[13:11:10] <MGR> oh
yeah, now I see them
<MGR> oh
yeah, now I see themL826[13:11:20] <MGR> but
it's mostly alignment and stuff
<MGR> but
it's mostly alignment and stuffL827[13:11:27] <gamax92> yeah sure.
L828[13:11:39] <MGR> I
don't see any changes that change the operation
<MGR> I
don't see any changes that change the operationL829[13:11:44] <gamax92> and?
L830[13:11:57] <MGR> If it
isn't broken, don't fix it?
<MGR> If it
isn't broken, don't fix it?L831[13:12:03] <gamax92> Maj shut the fuck
up
L832[13:12:47] <DaMachinator> that
escalated quickly
L833[13:12:53] <MGR> my
sincere apologies
<MGR> my
sincere apologiesL834[13:13:22] ⇦
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L836[13:13:54] <MGR>
gamax92, I didn't mean to upset you ?
<MGR>
gamax92, I didn't mean to upset you ?L837[13:14:19] <gamax92> not only is it
outdated screenshots but it would be also better to copy the
important instructions into text for people who can't view the
image or would like the text for easy access
L838[13:14:34] <gamax92> and cropping out
all of the unnecessary garbage in the screenshot would make it look
better anyway
L839[13:14:46] <MGR>
gamax92, that is a good point
<MGR>
gamax92, that is a good pointL840[13:15:18] ⇦
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L841[13:19:32] <gamax92> hey payonel, why
does it say 'low memory, collecting garbage'
L842[13:20:04] <MGR>
gamax92, when does it say that?
<MGR>
gamax92, when does it say that?L843[13:24:18] ⇦
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L847[13:36:39] <Michiyo> I just totally
rewrote the %tell system for michibot to support Corded...
L848[13:36:57] <MGR>
whoo!
<MGR>
whoo!L849[13:37:03] <Michiyo> and realized as I
finished that it was pointless as MichiBot would have no way to
send messages directly to discord users
L850[13:37:03] <MGR> %tell
Michiyo congratulations
<MGR> %tell
Michiyo congratulationsL851[13:37:10] <MGR>
nooooooooo
<MGR>
noooooooooL852[13:37:19] <MGR> what
about from Discord to IRC?
<MGR> what
about from Discord to IRC?L853[13:37:33] <Michiyo> Meh
L854[13:37:39] <gamax92> hmm ... that
tutorial is actually somewhat broken, it relies on the fact that
there used to be built in OpenOS on rom
L855[13:37:46] <MGR>
couldn't it also do something like @MGR ?
<MGR>
couldn't it also do something like @MGR ?L856[13:37:55] <MGR>
...
<MGR>
...L857[13:37:58] <MGR> I just
realized
<MGR> I just
realizedL858[13:38:00] <gamax92> which is now a
floppy disk, and auto mounting drives is cool an all but we also
have the install command
L859[13:38:01] <Michiyo> No, it sends
notices... which doesn't go to discord
L860[13:38:04] <MGR> did
someone change my name?
<MGR> did
someone change my name?L861[13:38:45] <Mimiru>
Wait you *JUST* realized your nick is MGR?
<Mimiru>
Wait you *JUST* realized your nick is MGR?L862[13:38:53] <MGR>
yes
<MGR>
yesL863[13:38:58] <Corded> * Mimiru
slowclaps
L864[13:39:15] <Forecaster> xD
L865[13:39:22] <Forecaster> nice
L866[13:40:04] <MGR>
@Mimiru change it back please
<MGR>
@Mimiru change it back pleaseL867[13:40:23] <MGR>
because I don't have the option to
<MGR>
because I don't have the option toL868[13:40:34] <gamax92> nah please keep
it
L869[13:42:24] <gamax92> the second
tutorial is also heavily outdated, someone did update the first one
though
L870[13:45:38] <Michiyo> I mean.. I could,
but no. Cause your name was like 40 characters when you included
<Corded> with it
L871[13:46:15] <MGR>
?
<MGR>
?L872[13:46:38] <Michiyo> Ok.. so it was 27
:P
L873[13:46:45] <gamax92> close
enough
L874[13:47:02] <MGR> I
wasn't going to point that out, but yes, it was less than 40
?
<MGR> I
wasn't going to point that out, but yes, it was less than 40
?L875[13:47:15] <gamax92> but above
26
L876[13:47:31] <Michiyo> and yet, 27 is
STILL > 19
L877[13:47:48] <Michiyo> and there's a +q
on anything longer than that
L878[13:47:50] <MGR> this
is true
<MGR> this
is trueL879[13:47:55] <MGR> there
is?
<MGR> there
is?L880[13:47:59] <Michiyo> it felt kinda
cheaty to let that go
L881[13:48:01] <MGR> since
when?
<MGR> since
when?L882[13:48:02] <Michiyo> yes..
L883[13:48:06] <Michiyo> since...
forever
L884[13:48:11] <Michiyo> ATLEAST Jun
10th
L885[13:48:19] <MGR>
huh
<MGR>
huhL886[13:48:22] <Michiyo> * #oc:
??????????????????*!*@* on Fri Jun 10 00:10:43 2016 by
aperture.esper.net
L887[13:48:23] <Michiyo> * #oc q :End of
Channel Quiet List
L888[13:48:32] <Michiyo> and that date
gets changed when big enough netsplitsh appen
L889[13:48:52] <Michiyo> s/sh a/s
ha/
L890[13:48:52] <MichiBot> <Michiyo>
and that date gets changed when big enough netsplits happen
L891[13:49:18] <MGR>
@Mimiru but I'm an established member of the OC community, and it's
already the shortened form of my full name ?
<MGR>
@Mimiru but I'm an established member of the OC community, and it's
already the shortened form of my full name ?L892[13:49:27] <MGR> which
is Major General Relativity
<MGR> which
is Major General RelativityL893[13:49:35] <MGR> and
that is reallly long
<MGR> and
that is reallly longL894[13:50:25] <Michiyo> You your self
have used MGR in the past, which is why I chose it.
L895[13:50:53] <Michiyo> I could have just
stuck with LongNameAssHole
L896[13:50:54] <Michiyo> :P
L897[13:50:56] <Michiyo> But I
didn't
L898[13:51:45] <MGR> I used
MGR to overcome the internal limit that i can only speak inside my
head so fast
<MGR> I used
MGR to overcome the internal limit that i can only speak inside my
head so fastL899[13:52:12] <MGR> It's
not actually the 'preferred' term of address
<MGR> It's
not actually the 'preferred' term of addressL900[13:52:36] <Michiyo> I'll change it to
JimBob, would that work?
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L902[13:53:34] <MGR> That
is also not preferred
<MGR> That
is also not preferredL903[13:53:43] <MGR> But I
can't make you change my nick back
<MGR> But I
can't make you change my nick backL904[13:54:07] <Zimbabwe>
Zimbabwe is acceptable
<Zimbabwe>
Zimbabwe is acceptableL905[13:55:10] <S3> minecraft really slow
on linux
L906[13:55:17] <S3> Okay I dunno wtf is
going on
L907[13:55:18] <gamax92> S3: are you using
nvidia
L908[13:55:27] <S3> nope
L909[13:55:31] <S3> here's the weird
thing
L910[13:55:39] <S3> it ran blazingly fast
on this machine before..
L911[13:55:46] <S3> (this is a diferent
laptp than earlier)
L912[13:56:06] <S3> and I mistyped, this
is the freebsd laptop
L913[13:56:10] <Zimbabwe>
@Mimiru now please change my name back
<Zimbabwe>
@Mimiru now please change my name backL914[13:56:17] <S3> which.. minecraft ran
faster on this than it did running linux lol
L915[13:56:26] <S3> before
L916[13:58:07] <S3> makes no sense..
L917[13:58:08] <S3> direct rendering:
Yes
L918[13:58:41] <S3> maybe I'm using vesa
drivers unknowingly, let's see
L919[13:58:45] <MGR>
@Mimiru not the 'preferred' result, but thank you
<MGR>
@Mimiru not the 'preferred' result, but thank youL920[13:59:19] <Michiyo> wait what
L921[13:59:25] <Michiyo> Who changed
it..?
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L923[13:59:29] <Michiyo> cause I was
dealing with a customer
L924[13:59:36] <S3> let's try
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L926[14:00:25] *
Michiyo shrugs
L927[14:00:37] <MGR>
@Vexatos did you change it?
<MGR>
@Vexatos did you change it?L928[14:00:37] <gamax92> sorry was
bored
L929[14:00:41] <MGR> who
changed my name?
<MGR> who
changed my name?L930[14:00:44] <gamax92> JimBob reminded
me of Zimbabwe
L931[14:00:53] <MGR>
oh
<MGR>
ohL932[14:01:17] <MGR> well,
thank you for reverting your change gamax92
<MGR> well,
thank you for reverting your change gamax92L933[14:01:30] <gamax92> no problem
fam
L934[14:01:38] <Michiyo> I was legit
confused...
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L936[14:02:12] <MGR>
gamax92, now, want to change my name to MajGenRelativity? ?
<MGR>
gamax92, now, want to change my name to MajGenRelativity? ?L937[14:02:12] <Lizzy> "There is a
forest fire raging out of control".. one fucking tree
L938[14:02:13] <Lizzy> ¬_¬
L939[14:02:18] <MGR>
lolwut
<MGR>
lolwutL940[14:02:34]
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L941[14:02:35] *
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L942[14:02:43] <MGR>
ah
<MGR>
ahL943[14:02:48] <MGR> I
should buy that game sometime
<MGR> I
should buy that game sometimeL944[14:02:55] <Corded> * MGR sighs
L945[14:03:02] <MGR> one of
many games I want, but lack the time for
<MGR> one of
many games I want, but lack the time forL946[14:03:17] ⇦
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L947[14:03:29] <Michiyo> @MGR, still 27
characters..
L948[14:03:31] <gamax92> I was buying
steam sale stuff and then found out later that I bought a bunch of
stuff for 3x the price of a bundle that had everything I just
bought
L949[14:03:47] <MGR>
oof
<MGR>
oofL950[14:03:47] <gamax92> oops
L951[14:03:55] <Michiyo> ouch
L952[14:04:07] <MGR>
@Mimiru what if we redefine 27 as 18.9(repeating)?
<MGR>
@Mimiru what if we redefine 27 as 18.9(repeating)?L953[14:04:12] <MGR> then
it will be under 19!
<MGR> then
it will be under 19!L954[14:04:24] <gamax92> identifiers
cannot start with numbers
L955[14:05:00] <Michiyo> Best I can do is
MajGenRel :P
L956[14:05:14] <Michiyo> Or Tree
Fiddy
L957[14:05:27] <gamax92> Lemme call up an
expert
L958[14:06:40] <KnobCheese>
heh
<KnobCheese>
hehL959[14:07:01] <Michiyo> O_o
L960[14:07:10] <gamax92> what
L961[14:07:19] <KnobCheese>
@Mimiru did you do that?
<KnobCheese>
@Mimiru did you do that?L962[14:07:34] <Michiyo> No god damn it
I've not touched your nick other than to shorten it.
L963[14:07:51] <KnobCheese>
gamax92. how are you logging in and out so fast I can't see you in
the list????
<KnobCheese>
gamax92. how are you logging in and out so fast I can't see you in
the list????L964[14:08:12] <gamax92> that wasn't
me
L965[14:08:27] <MGR> then
that only leaves @Vexatos
<MGR> then
that only leaves @VexatosL966[14:08:41] <Michiyo> You know you can
set your self as "Offline" now.. right?
L967[14:08:49] <MGR> wait
what?
<MGR> wait
what?L968[14:08:57] <Michiyo> Err Invisible I
mean
L969[14:09:06] <Mimiru> I'm
totally not in the nicklist...
<Mimiru> I'm
totally not in the nicklist...L970[14:09:08] <Mimiru> but
here I am
<Mimiru> but
here I amL971[14:09:33] <MGR>
where?
<MGR>
where?L973[14:10:01] <RGM> who's
messign with my nameeeeeeee
<RGM> who's
messign with my nameeeeeeeeL974[14:10:14] <RGM> how
did you pull that up?
<RGM> how
did you pull that up?L975[14:10:19] <RGM> I'm
not seeing that menu
<RGM> I'm
not seeing that menuL976[14:10:23] <Mimiru>
Click your fucking name/avatar...
<Mimiru>
Click your fucking name/avatar...L977[14:10:29] <RGM> oh,
lol
<RGM> oh,
lolL978[14:10:30] <Mimiru> Err
Avatar*
<Mimiru> Err
Avatar*L979[14:10:32] <RGM> the
one place I didn't look
<RGM> the
one place I didn't lookL980[14:10:33] <Mimiru> not
name :p
<Mimiru> not
name :pL981[14:10:56] <RGM>
alright
<RGM>
alrightL982[14:11:06] <MGR> but
really though, who is changing my name?
<MGR> but
really though, who is changing my name?L983[14:11:14] <Mimiru>
I've changed it back twice now
<Mimiru>
I've changed it back twice nowL984[14:11:21] <MGR>
because the first two were at least clever, but the last one was
meh
<MGR>
because the first two were at least clever, but the last one was
mehL985[14:11:27] <MGR>
@Mimiru thank you
<MGR>
@Mimiru thank youL986[14:11:44] <MGR.>
...
<MGR.>
...L987[14:11:47] <MGR.> now I
have a .
<MGR.> now I
have a .L988[14:12:11] <MGR>
@person who is changing my name, "be more clever"
<MGR>
@person who is changing my name, "be more clever"L989[14:12:12] <Mimiru> I
had no idea... congrats!..
<Mimiru> I
had no idea... congrats!..L990[14:12:26] <No>
YES
<No>
YESL991[14:12:27] <No>
JUST
<No>
JUSTL992[14:12:29] <MGR> DO
ITTTTTTTTTTT
<MGR> DO
ITTTTTTTTTTTL993[14:13:09] <Mettaton_Fab> oi.
L994[14:13:27] <MGR> hi
Mettaton_Fab
<MGR> hi
Mettaton_FabL995[14:14:07] <MGR>
@Mimiru are you watching my name right now?
<MGR>
@Mimiru are you watching my name right now?L996[14:14:13] <MGR>
because it disappeared and reapeared
<MGR>
because it disappeared and reapearedL997[14:14:24] <MGR> I
assume someone changed it, and you reverted it right away
<MGR> I
assume someone changed it, and you reverted it right awayL998[14:14:42] <Mimiru> I
didn't revert anything this time
<Mimiru> I
didn't revert anything this timeL999[14:14:47] <MGR>
huh
<MGR>
huhL1000[14:14:57] <Mettaton_Fab> my amp
doesnt want to work.
L1001[14:15:10] <Mimiru>
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
<Mimiru>
Have you tried turning it off and on again?L1002[14:15:17] <Mettaton_Fab> also, who
wants a IC keychain?
L1003[14:15:46] <MGR>
@Mimiru so, I'm going to have to ask that you take some sort of
action to stop my name being vandalized
<MGR>
@Mimiru so, I'm going to have to ask that you take some sort of
action to stop my name being vandalizedL1004[14:15:58] <MGR>
because while it's all fun and games right now, I'm going to have
to go soon
<MGR>
because while it's all fun and games right now, I'm going to have
to go soonL1005[14:16:08] <Mimiru>
Set yourself as invisible
<Mimiru>
Set yourself as invisibleL1006[14:16:23] <MGR>
that will stop it?
<MGR>
that will stop it?L1007[14:16:34] <Mimiru>
AFAIK yes, can't select you to change it
<Mimiru>
AFAIK yes, can't select you to change itL1008[14:16:41] <:)> ok,
thank you
<:)> ok,
thank youL1009[14:16:45] <MGR>
WRONG
<MGR>
WRONGL1010[14:16:54] <Mimiru>
I think it happened right before you set invis..
<Mimiru>
I think it happened right before you set invis..L1011[14:16:57] <gamax92> after
<gamax92> afterL1012[14:17:00] <gamax92> you can click the nick list
<gamax92> you can click the nick listL1013[14:17:01] <MGR>
no, it happened after
<MGR>
no, it happened afterL1014[14:17:04] <Mimiru>
Oh shit right
<Mimiru>
Oh shit rightL1015[14:17:09] <Mimiru>
damn..
<Mimiru>
damn..L1016[14:17:25] <MGR> I
don't know what my name is anymoreeeeeeee
<MGR> I
don't know what my name is anymoreeeeeeeeL1017[14:17:34] <Mimiru>
Phillip
<Mimiru>
PhillipL1018[14:19:02] <Mimiru>
There.
<Mimiru>
There.L1019[14:19:15] <MGR>
Thank you
<MGR>
Thank youL1020[14:21:13] *
Lizzy wishes the announcements for thunderstorms would go away when
they're size 1
L1021[14:21:34] *
Michiyo wishes her bank would deposit the $50 she used to open the
account already
L1022[14:22:28] <MGR>
have a good day everyone, I may be back ?
<MGR>
have a good day everyone, I may be back ?L1023[14:22:47] *
Mettaton_Fab wants a tape deck. and food. definitely
food.
L1024[14:23:20] <Forecaster> kill two
birds with one stone with one of those rolls of gum
L1025[14:29:34] <Mettaton_Fab> I have a
L200C voltage regulator here, should i use this one or a fixed
one?
L1026[14:29:46] <Michiyo> Yes, one of
those two options for sure.
L1027[14:30:02] <Michiyo> Also... my case
was just delivered
L1028[14:30:11] <Forecaster> OR hear me
out here
L1029[14:30:14] <Forecaster> roll of
gum
L1030[14:30:27] <Forecaster> for all your
power regulating needs
L1031[14:31:07] <gamax92> magnets
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L1033[14:39:02] <fdz> hahim still logged
in
L1034[14:39:12] <fdz> uptime
L1035[14:42:22] <Mettaton_Fab>
forecaster, i want 2 fixed 5V regulators for a thing imma be
building.
L1036[14:51:12] <Michiyo> Well.. the real
question is does the l200 give you the current you need? it tops
out at 2 amps, and you'll need a heatsink IIRC
L1037[14:51:36] <Michiyo> I know i needed
one on my lm317 at 1amp
L1038[14:52:44] <Michiyo> I know it made
the body of the flashlight it was in pretty warm after a
while
L1039[14:52:57] <Lizzy> right, shower
time i guess
L1040[14:54:37] <Mettaton_Fab> i also
ordered a 12V power supply for my amp thingy.
L1041[14:54:53] <Mettaton_Fab> also, i
have an EEPROM.
L1042[14:54:59] <Mettaton_Fab> anyone
want it?
L1043[14:55:50] <Michiyo> No, I don't
take EEPROMS from strangers.
L1044[14:56:32] *
Lizzy purns it
L1045[14:56:35] <Lizzy> *burns
L1046[14:57:28] <Mettaton_Fab> i found it
in a Receiver for stuff.
L1047[14:57:44] <Mettaton_Fab> because
something has to say that motorola cpu what to do.
L1048[15:01:14] <gamax92> yes but it
doesn't have to be on an eeprom
L1049[15:02:38] <gamax92> #lua
1000^3/1024^3
L1050[15:02:39] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
0.93132257461548
L1051[15:07:33] <20kdc>
back again
<20kdc>
back againL1052[15:09:51] <Mettaton_Fab> but it
is.
L1053[15:10:46] <DaMachinator> so
RotaryCraft adds OC functions to all it's things - do I need to
have the controlling computer directly adjacent to said things or
can they be connected via network cable?
L1054[15:11:13] <Vexatos> depends on your
config
L1055[15:11:21] <Vexatos> there's a
setting for that IIRC
L1056[15:11:56] <gamax92> you can use via
network cable, but be warned, every rotarycraft block acts like a
cable too, and it'll all connect though to your computer and cause
it to die from too many components, if there are too many
rotarycraft blocks around
L1057[15:12:13] <Vexatos> Ask Reika, I
don't know whether he actually fixed it
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L1060[15:16:59] <fdz> opening the remote
terminal opens a small screen in the center, like a really small
box
L1061[15:17:57] <fdz> not sure why
:(
L1062[15:18:00] <Michiyo> Do you have it
bound to a terminal server (OC 1.6) or a Server (1.5 and
below)?
L1063[15:18:23] <fdz> yes
L1064[15:18:35] <Michiyo> To which, my
next advice depends on which..
L1065[15:18:41] <fdz> right click with
theremote terminal on the terminal server?
L1066[15:18:49] <fdz> which what
L1067[15:19:00] *
Michiyo sighs
L1068[15:19:19] <fdz> :I
L1069[15:19:53] <gamax92> Michiyo: they
mean yes to terminal server (they're in 1.6)
L1070[15:20:19] <fdz> thing is this
remote terminal worked befre
L1071[15:20:37] <fdz> and now it doesent,
and i went back to the old server it worked on and it doesent work
there eighr
L1072[15:20:48] <fdz> freaking doing tell
me.
L1073[15:20:48] <fdz> wait
L1074[15:22:06] <fdz> ok i didnt have a
wireless network card in the server, but now i do, after power
cycling i get the same issue
L1075[15:24:07] <fdz> i give up, this is
desined not to work, ill just use monitors
L1076[15:29:38] <fdz> doing
"=component.list" returns some random hex function.. why
do all tutorial videos seem easy but when you try to do it you
aleays forget something simple but obscure..
L1077[15:31:47] <Michiyo> because
component.list is a table.. you'll either have to print each table
entry, or just type components at the shell (not in lua)
L1078[15:33:31] <DaMachinator> for addr,
name in component.list() do print(name.." - "..addr)
end
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L1080[15:36:32] <DaMachinator> with the
whole require thing
L1081[15:36:46] <fdz> blast this thing,
ill have to get it working later
L1082[15:37:16] <DaMachinator> ok i have
poor reading comprehension
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L1086[15:46:35] <gamax92> OCEmu supports
XDG paths now
L1087[15:47:12] <gamax92> it'll still
check the old paths first for compatibility but it'll mention to
move it to the new path
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L1089[15:52:30] <20kdc>
..."XDG paths"?
<20kdc>
..."XDG paths"?L1090[15:55:43] <gamax92> the whole
~/.local/share/name stuff instead of ~/.name
L1091[15:59:52] <payonel> gamax92: the
"low memory running gc" message could be omitted. it
happens when the installer detects very low memory available on the
system. it was one thing to get openos to run on low mem, it was
another problem getting the new installer to run on low mem. so i
had to split up the install code and load it in parts.
L1092[16:00:29] <payonel> i load the
first part of install which parses options, checks paths, gets user
input -- and builds a the ready-to-go settings objects
L1093[16:00:49] <payonel> then i can
release that code block, and run the actual install code using the
simple settings object
L1094[16:01:03] <payonel> but if mem is
too low to even load the actual install bits, then i try to gc
first
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L1096[16:01:42] <payonel> i opted to
print the message about low mem for 2 reasons, 1. so users would
consider their system is running on low mem, and making more ram
might be good to consider at some point
L1097[16:01:51] <gamax92> ahh, makes
sense
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L1099[16:02:11] <payonel> and 2. running
gc requires 20 sleeps, so it appears to "stall" the
script, this way the user might understand why the installer is
hanging before actually installing
L1100[16:02:31] <gamax92> well lua's EGC
is a thing
L1101[16:03:26] <payonel> youre saying as
long as my refs are released, gc should happen for me when i try to
load more?
L1102[16:03:48] <gamax92> if lua5.2+ runs
out of memory it forces a GC and tries to continue
L1103[16:04:15] <payonel> i considered
that, but ... i didn't know how much that can be relied upon .. so
i felt it safer to "force" a gc
L1104[16:04:25] <payonel> but perhaps
that was completely unnecessary
L1105[16:05:00] <gamax92> I've not really
tested it,
L1106[16:05:20] <20kdc>
payonel: it seems you really have optimized the OpenOS userspace
memory-wise
<20kdc>
payonel: it seems you really have optimized the OpenOS userspace
memory-wiseL1107[16:05:55] <payonel> 20kdc: =) if i
make a 1.7 of openos, it'll have swap space and i can unload even
more! :)
L1108[16:05:55] <gamax92> Did you know
that T1 memory used to be 64KB and that OpenOS 1.0 ran on
that?
L1109[16:06:06] <payonel> gamax92: haha,
yeah :)
L1110[16:06:13] <payonel> i've even
played with that versoin
L1111[16:06:18] <payonel> version*
L1112[16:06:36] <gamax92> oh question,
why does it hang on 'Initializing system' on boot now, what's
that?
L1113[16:07:18] <payonel> I think (am
pretty sure, but it's been a while since i benchmarked and reviewed
every part of boot) -- but that is the shell loading
L1114[16:08:18] <20kdc>
...random question, is OpenComputers deterministic? That is, if a
memory benchmark on a particular server, with no user interaction,
returns a value, will the result be the same if the benchmark is
run again?
<20kdc>
...random question, is OpenComputers deterministic? That is, if a
memory benchmark on a particular server, with no user interaction,
returns a value, will the result be the same if the benchmark is
run again?L1115[16:08:44] <20kdc>
I'm not seeing why it wouldn't be, but I'm not sure.
<20kdc>
I'm not seeing why it wouldn't be, but I'm not sure.L1116[16:08:52] <payonel> 20kdc: no, even
on the same system you'll have different results due to lua is
running on a vm
L1117[16:08:56] <gamax92> yes
L1118[16:09:10] <20kdc>
payonel: But the LuaVM has a new lua_State created each time,
right?
<20kdc>
payonel: But the LuaVM has a new lua_State created each time,
right?L1119[16:09:15] <gamax92> why would it be
no, it's the same lua library and same code
L1120[16:09:26] <payonel> i'm referring
only to available memory
L1121[16:09:30] <payonel> it's
wiggles
L1122[16:09:41] <payonel> it*
L1123[16:09:45] <20kdc>
hmm, true, but the memory's managed by the LuaVM
<20kdc>
hmm, true, but the memory's managed by the LuaVML1124[16:09:54] <gamax92> because of un
gc'd objects sure but the actual available should be the same
L1125[16:10:16] <20kdc>
and since the LuaVM depends totally on the lua_State last I
checked...
<20kdc>
and since the LuaVM depends totally on the lua_State last I
checked...L1126[16:10:34] <payonel> i can stop and
restart mc and check avial mem on a system and get variations in
the results- most of the time the values are the same
L1127[16:10:46] <gamax92> the only thing
I can thing of is different os (shouldn't matter too much) or
32-bit vs 64-bit (64bit has a 1.8 divider to make it look similar
to 32-bit memory)
L1128[16:11:07] <20kdc>
different host OS probably matters a lot, this is native code we're
talking about
<20kdc>
different host OS probably matters a lot, this is native code we're
talking aboutL1129[16:11:29] <payonel> i've ran a form
of memory profiling on openos hundreds of times, even the same
exact build on different runs getting, at times, slight
variations
L1130[16:12:01] <20kdc>
Well, at least they're only slight.
<20kdc>
Well, at least they're only slight.L1131[16:12:23] <gamax92> OpenComputers
will factor out the stuff that isn't Lua code and the boot
code
L1132[16:12:34] <gamax92> so, no
different OS shouldn't matter
L1133[16:13:12] <payonel> one thing that
is weird is if i replace the openos files in the jar and load mc,
even /oc_sc a new machine and install, sometimes i have 1000s of
bytes fewer available
L1134[16:13:27] <payonel> a couple mc
restarts and then things are normal again
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L1137[16:14:07] <20kdc>
gamax92: hmm, but Lua has a few potentially OS-dependent
components
<20kdc>
gamax92: hmm, but Lua has a few potentially OS-dependent
componentsL1138[16:14:07] <payonel> i got used to
it, and would typically retest a change in the memory profile
multiple times and take the median
L1139[16:14:15] <20kdc>
gamax92: if only in very slight ways that add up
<20kdc>
gamax92: if only in very slight ways that add upL1140[16:14:46] <gamax92> @20kdc
like?
L1141[16:14:56] <20kdc>
the size of structs, which could be affected by the compiler,
changes memory usage
<20kdc>
the size of structs, which could be affected by the compiler,
changes memory usageL1142[16:15:37] <20kdc>
of course, usually this never affects the running Lua program
<20kdc>
of course, usually this never affects the running Lua programL1143[16:15:49] <20kdc>
...but now we're talking memory usage...
<20kdc>
...but now we're talking memory usage...L1144[16:16:01] <20kdc>
which means bets are probably off
<20kdc>
which means bets are probably offL1145[16:16:17] <20kdc>
for all I know, Lua might compare pointers to perform hashtable
bucketing
<20kdc>
for all I know, Lua might compare pointers to perform hashtable
bucketingL1146[16:16:25] <20kdc>
which can be affected by *anything*
<20kdc>
which can be affected by *anything*L1147[16:16:49] <20kdc>
even running MC the exact same way frame to frame would probably
affect that...
<20kdc>
even running MC the exact same way frame to frame would probably
affect that...L1148[16:18:40] <gamax92> I mean both of
you can keep worrying about a couple of kilobytes but if you'
L1149[16:18:48] <gamax92> re already
hitting the memory ceiling you have fucked up somewhere
L1150[16:19:06] <payonel> most of the
cleaning i did was a few k at a time
L1151[16:19:45] <payonel> to get to 35-40
k below 1.5 as actually closer to 50 or 60 k .. because 1.6
actually does more
L1152[16:20:03] <payonel> i maybe found 2
10k fixes, the rest were <5k
L1153[16:20:08] <payonel> many were
1-2k
L1154[16:20:10] <gamax92> yes overall
improvements are good, but don't worry about the few kilobyte
difference in memory availability that you might get from different
os's or even just booting the computer again
L1155[16:20:22] <payonel> oh you're
talking about your host os
L1156[16:20:24] <payonel> sorry
L1157[16:20:28] <gamax92> no
L1158[16:20:39] <gamax92> because if it's
at the point where you need that extra kilobyte for 191KB to 192KB
of lua memory, you need to rethink your program
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L1161[16:20:50] <payonel> i agree with
that completely
L1162[16:20:57] <payonel> you're out of
luck at that point
L1163[16:21:22] <payonel> my issue was
referring to the struggle of making the right choices for openos
improvements
L1164[16:21:54] <payonel> a lot of my
cleanup ideas either didnt help at all or even made things worse. i
relied a lot on the profiling to make sure i was actually making
things better
L1165[16:22:40] <payonel> sometimes it is
hard to measure the cost of "table now" vs "table
later via metatable", as that depends on the cost of the
"table now"
L1166[16:23:28] <payonel> ^ that's just
one example, also hiding require()s inside methods is used
L1167[16:23:33] <gamax92> payonel: here's
a neat idea, you can do a tweak to the kernel to expose a function
that collects garbage and then returns free memory count, to avoid
having to do tricks like sleeping 20 times and other silly
things
L1168[16:24:22] <payonel> kernel as in
machine.lua? but once exposed what's to stop another user from
calling gc?
L1169[16:24:44] <gamax92> by not actually
submitting that change to others, it's a debugging tool for you
only
L1170[16:25:18] <payonel> oh i did do
that for my profiling
L1171[16:27:00] <20kdc>
...while I'm here, which branch does OpenOS development occur
on?
<20kdc>
...while I'm here, which branch does OpenOS development occur
on?L1172[16:27:31] <gamax92> oh wtf
...
L1173[16:27:42] <gamax92> LuaJ has
"=kernel" and LuaC has "=machine"
L1174[16:28:01] <gamax92> should probably
go fix that
L1175[16:28:05] <payonel> 20kdc: 1.7.10,
then i merge up
L1176[16:28:29] <payonel> but at times,
1.7.10 may be a few days or a week ahead
L1177[16:29:50] <20kdc>
good old 1.7.10, always reliable, always faithful, 1.7.10.
<20kdc>
good old 1.7.10, always reliable, always faithful, 1.7.10.L1178[16:31:05] <gamax92> and now to
attempt building oc for an hour
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L1180[16:31:28] <20kdc>
shouldn't be that difficult
<20kdc>
shouldn't be that difficultL1181[16:31:35] <gamax92> it's not
difficult
L1182[16:31:38] <gamax92> it just takes
an hour
L1183[16:31:55] <20kdc>
"downloading launchwrapper-1.11.pom" ...you may be
right.
<20kdc>
"downloading launchwrapper-1.11.pom" ...you may be
right.L1184[16:32:06]
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L1185[16:32:13] <20kdc>
Oh. Nevermind. It "downloading
appliedenergistics2-rv2-beta-26.pom" uhoh
<20kdc>
Oh. Nevermind. It "downloading
appliedenergistics2-rv2-beta-26.pom" uhohL1186[16:32:14] <gamax92> uhh what?
L1187[16:32:23] <20kdc>
...it's downloading the universe
<20kdc>
...it's downloading the universeL1188[16:32:25] <20kdc>
and some more
<20kdc>
and some moreL1189[16:33:01] <gamax92> I'll just use a
bytecode editor instead :P
L1190[16:33:45] <20kdc>
the build itself will probably be fast enough, but the
download...
<20kdc>
the build itself will probably be fast enough, but the
download...L1191[16:34:15] <gamax92> yeah, gradle
tries to fetch every library from the wrong location first before
using the right location
L1192[16:34:18] <gamax92> so, ends up
being a bit slow
L1193[16:34:49] <20kdc>
...it's not really that. It was relatively fast with the
RotaryCraft-V5c.pom file
<20kdc>
...it's not really that. It was relatively fast with the
RotaryCraft-V5c.pom fileL1194[16:35:07] <20kdc>
...it's just files.minecraftforge.net *has it in for me.*
<20kdc>
...it's just files.minecraftforge.net *has it in for me.*L1195[16:35:11] <gamax92> no it is that
for me
L1196[16:35:14] <gamax92> it's currently
doing it right now
L1197[16:35:35] <20kdc>
well, that can't be good
<20kdc>
well, that can't be goodL1198[16:35:53] <gamax92> ... err wtf is
this LuaJ traceback :/
L1199[16:39:09] <payonel> gamax92: for me
it nevers used the correct locations. i had 59 poms that never
resolved
L1200[16:40:09] <payonel> gamax92: these
are all the poms that failed to download: http://hastebin.com/anubenorih.css
L1201[16:40:44] <payonel> well not just
poms, all the files of any type that failed to download. there is
also maven-metadata.xml in that list
L1202[16:42:13] <20kdc>
for me POMs are resolving, just very, very slowly.
<20kdc>
for me POMs are resolving, just very, very slowly.L1203[16:42:30] <20kdc>
though the JAR files seem to be going a lot faster...
<20kdc>
though the JAR files seem to be going a lot faster...L1204[16:44:44] <gamax92> I ended up just
hexediting the class file :P
L1205[16:44:50] <gamax92> change worked,
will submit PR
L1206[16:45:22] <S3> ok
L1207[16:45:24] <S3> installing
optifine
L1208[16:45:36] <S3> why do people use
fastcraft, I have never noticed it helping on any of my
machines
L1209[16:45:36] <S3> ever
L1210[16:45:46] <S3> no where near as
much as optifine seems to
L1211[16:46:10] <S3> in fact I've seen it
cause more issues in the past..
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L1213[16:50:31] <gamax92> "tail
calls are not tracked in debug information" oh
L1214[16:50:44] <20kdc>
oh, great, "Mcp conf dir for the deobfuscator"...
<20kdc>
oh, great, "Mcp conf dir for the deobfuscator"...L1215[16:50:57] <20kdc>
since when was this dialog a thing in 1.7.10 dev.
<20kdc>
since when was this dialog a thing in 1.7.10 dev.L1216[16:51:06] <S3> gamax92: wat
L1217[16:51:10] <Mimiru>
since using codechicken to runtime deobf
<Mimiru>
since using codechicken to runtime deobfL1218[16:51:25] <gamax92> S3: LuaJ
L1219[16:51:31] <S3> oh.
L1220[16:51:39] <S3> does Java support
TCO?
L1221[16:51:51] <Mimiru>
@20kdc
USERDIR\.gradle\caches\minecraft\net\minecraftforge\forge\FORGEVER\unpacked\conf
<Mimiru>
@20kdc
USERDIR\.gradle\caches\minecraft\net\minecraftforge\forge\FORGEVER\unpacked\confL1222[16:51:54] <S3> or I mean
L1223[16:51:55] <S3> does LuaJ
L1224[16:51:59] <20kdc>
Mimiru: thank you
<20kdc>
Mimiru: thank youL1225[16:52:01] <S3> I know Lua does
TCO
L1226[16:52:37] <Mimiru>
Np
<Mimiru>
NpL1227[16:56:44]
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L1228[17:01:18] <gamax92> maven does seem
odd ... there isn't anything like a top level descriptor that says
hey I have these libraries here, it's just a bunch of folders
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L1230[17:04:48] <DaMachinator> *reading
logs*
L1231[17:05:09] <20kdc>
ok, apparently I'm going to have to hope OpenOS <master
version> works on older OpenComputers, because now it's not
running due to Forge complaining for some reason.
<20kdc>
ok, apparently I'm going to have to hope OpenOS <master
version> works on older OpenComputers, because now it's not
running due to Forge complaining for some reason.L1232[17:05:11] <DaMachinator> why
rotarycraft v5c... that's like at least 10 versions old now
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L1234[17:08:03] <gamax92> ...
L1235[17:08:11] <gamax92> payonel:
"It's impossible to specify a dedicated repository to look up
an artifact. Maven will look up all configured repositories one by
one until the artifact is found."
L1236[17:08:21] <gamax92> What a great
system.
L1238[17:11:07] <gamax92> oh i have
idea
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L1240[17:56:16] <S3> CompanionCube: what
was that packing library that you found?
L1241[17:56:25] <CompanionCube>
for?
L1242[17:56:29] <S3> data packing
L1243[17:56:41] <CompanionCube> uh, let
me grep my logs
L1244[17:56:44] <S3> lol
L1245[17:56:49] <S3> the one for binary
data packing
L1246[17:56:55] <CompanionCube> because I
may have pointed out multiple ones
L1247[17:56:56] <S3> if you
remember
L1248[17:57:47] <S3> I remember I think
it started with a k
L1249[17:58:03] <CompanionCube> S3: was
it msgpack
L1250[17:58:25] <S3> no no
L1251[17:58:31] <S3> that's a binary
serialization library
L1252[17:58:34] <S3> library*
L1253[17:58:49] <S3> this one was for
packing binary data structurely
L1254[17:59:05] <S3> msgpack is more
position independent, indexed binary serialization
L1255[17:59:20] <S3> (which imo is great
for OC network packets)
L1256[17:59:59] <CompanionCube> S3: there
was kaitai, but that's not for packing
L1257[18:00:06] <S3> kaitai!
L1258[18:00:10] <CompanionCube> it was
for describing the structure of already constructed shit
L1259[18:00:15] <S3> it wasnt? lemme
look
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L1261[18:00:25] <S3> OH
L1262[18:00:29] <S3> it's read only, not
write?
L1263[18:00:38] <CompanionCube> the
intention is to describe fileformats iirc
L1264[18:00:56] <S3> right
L1265[18:01:11] <S3> but it would seem
weird if it didn't support also writing to these structures
L1266[18:01:12] <CompanionCube> ah yes,
it's a parser
L1267[18:01:43] <CompanionCube> S3:
https://github.com/kaitai-io/kaitai_struct/issues/27
L1268[18:02:08] <S3> ah I see
L1269[18:02:12] <S3> well that's a
bummer
L1270[18:02:47] <S3> meanwhile, msgpack
will be perfect for variable length data. My only concern is
fragmentation for networking
L1271[18:03:34] <S3> I guess OC's packet
size is 8192 bytes isn't it
L1272[18:03:38] <S3> max*
L1273[18:03:45] <S3> so no huge
deal
L1274[18:04:09] <CompanionCube> S3: would
most likely come in handy if you ever needed a reference kind of
thing for anything
L1275[18:04:10] <S3> CompanionCube: btw,
I did test msgpack with OC, it works beautifully
L1276[18:04:45] <S3> should consider your
DNS system with msgpack heh
L1277[18:05:16] <CompanionCube> S3: well,
it'd most likely be easier than the current text based
protocol
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L1279[18:08:59] <S3> msgpack structures
can be encapsulated inside of msgpack structures
L1280[18:09:16] <S3> Making it easy to
create full blown network stacks
L1281[18:12:07] <S3> ohhhh. so THATS how
AAL fragmentation works
L1282[18:12:42] <S3> the last fragmented
cell gets a trailer, so that you don't have to know how long the
full packet is
L1283[18:12:55] <S3> so you could send
packets several KB in size in OC
L1284[18:13:09] <S3> it would just split
it up into cells and deliver all of em
L1285[18:34:34] <CompanionCube> 'MPs have
asked how new rules aimed at stopping children seeing pornographic
content will affect websites such as Twitter.'
L1286[18:34:42] <CompanionCube> things
may or may not get interesting
L1287[18:35:44] <gamax92> my idea failed,
but maven just sucks in general
L1288[18:38:10] <S3> CompanionCube:
hmmmmmm
L1289[18:38:26] <S3> CompanionCube: like,
new laws?
L1290[18:38:34] <CompanionCube> S3:
yep
L1291[18:38:37] <S3> what do you mean by
MP
L1292[18:38:43] <CompanionCube> Member of
Parliament
L1293[18:38:59] <CompanionCube> also, /me
should really setup a VPN
L1294[18:39:08] <S3> yeah you
should
L1295[18:39:24] <S3> it'd be neat to be
able to VPN into an Ocranet network..
L1296[18:40:06] <gamax92> S3: setup up a
local VPN for ad blocking
L1297[18:40:17] <S3> lol
L1298[18:40:19] <S3> why
L1299[18:40:37] <gamax92> because thats
the best way to do adblocking on android without root now
L1300[18:40:57] <S3> So I found
this
L1301[18:41:09] <S3> https://www.cisco.com/application/pdf/en/us/guest/products/ps1891/c2001/ccmigration_09186a00800f4b5d.pdf
L1302[18:41:38] <S3> Very nice pdf
L1303[18:44:56] <S3> Oh yeah I forgot
about CLP
L1304[18:45:07] <S3> so with ATM, you can
flag cells to have CLP
L1305[18:45:17] <S3> for things like
audio streams
L1306[18:45:22] <S3> so if the network
becomes overloaded
L1307[18:45:29] <S3> itl start discarding
cells when it gets bunged up
L1308[18:45:38] <S3> that have CLP
flagged
L1309[18:46:02] <S3> Where would this be
useful in MC?
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L1311[18:55:52] <S3> Oh shit lol
L1312[18:56:11] <gamax92> waddup
L1313[18:56:13] <S3> I just remembered I
forgot to transfer my parking permit tag to the car I brought to
school today
L1314[18:56:22] <S3> and I drove home and
never checked the wipers
L1315[18:56:29] <S3> Oh well
L1316[18:56:57] <S3> If they wrote me a
ticket, I'll just walk over and yell at them until they take the
ticket back, because they have the license plate on their list of
registered cars
L1317[18:56:58] <S3> lol
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L1320[19:10:39] <S3> oh nvm, permit was
on the floor..
L1321[19:10:57] <S3> I remember putting
that up heh
L1322[19:13:40] <S3> WOWOWOWAHWOAHWOAH
WAT
L1323[19:14:14] <gamax92> S3: calm
down
L1324[19:14:20] <S3> I CANT
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L1326[19:14:51] <CompanionCube> ?
L1327[19:15:04] <LordRyan> S3: i made it
through a month of college without a permit
L1328[19:15:13] <S3> lol!
L1329[19:15:24] <LordRyan> i dropped out
before i got in trouble for it :D
L1330[19:15:25] <S3> I can't calm down
because my fiance's parents just bought us a house
L1331[19:15:45] <LordRyan> :O
L1332[19:15:47] <LordRyan> nice!
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L1334[19:17:51] <CompanionCube> so..while
idly browsing the repositories this is a thing 'AJAX web-based
desktop environment'
L1335[19:18:00] *
CompanionCube wonders how bad this will end up being
L1336[19:18:17] *
Temia drops monocle in teacup
L1337[19:18:20] <Temia> my word!
L1338[19:18:59] *
CompanionCube visits the URL
L1339[19:19:23] <CompanionCube> 'Firefox
can't find the server at www.eyeos.org.' Never mind.
L1340[19:19:42] *
CompanionCube just wonders if it's in the internet
archive
L1341[19:20:39] <CompanionCube> ...oh
sweet jesus
L1342[19:20:50] <CompanionCube> 'HTML5
VIRTUALIZATION'
L1343[19:21:42] <CompanionCube> can
anyone here speak spanish
L1344[19:21:43] <CompanionCube> https://eyeos.com/
L1345[19:22:33] <LordRyan> "eyeOS is
a virtual desktop web able to serve in a unique way any Windows and
Linux application in a browser and integrate while local services
or SaaS web."
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L1347[19:23:30] <S3> somebody sent in a
support ticket yesterday requesting to buy more ram from us to add
to his virtual machine.
L1348[19:23:41] <S3> when all he had to
do is give it more memory in the settings
L1349[19:23:58] <LordRyan> just tell him
to download some more
L1350[19:25:38] <S3> haha
L1351[19:25:52] <S3> there's also
downloadmoreghz now
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L1353[19:27:07] <LordRyan> i'll need that
then :P
L1354[19:27:22] <LordRyan> processor on
my mom's computer sucks, RAM on my computer sucks... :(
L1355[19:29:34] <S3> ram sham
L1356[19:29:44] <S3> you just need what I
got
L1357[19:30:06] <S3> 16MB of EDO and a
Zilog 80180 cpu
L1358[19:30:21] <S3> you'll be all set
with 386BSD
L1359[19:30:39] <S3> actually.. 386bsd
may require 386 extensions..
L1360[19:30:47] <S3> which the 80180
surely does not have..
L1361[19:30:52] <CompanionCube> isn't it
kinda in the name?
L1362[19:30:58] <CompanionCube>
*3*86bsd
L1363[19:31:05] <S3> not
necessarily
L1364[19:31:25] <S3> as long as you don't
use 386 only features it should work on a 286 / 186
L1365[19:31:42] <S3> i.e. windows 3.1
supported 386 extensions but worked fine on a 286
L1366[19:32:36] <LordRyan> i think i have
an arch disk somewhere that can boot on a 386
L1367[19:32:55] <S3> huh
L1368[19:33:06] <S3> must be like Linux
2.4
L1369[19:33:17] <S3> with SSE
disabled
L1370[19:33:24] <LordRyan> idunno, it was
when i was like 11.
L1371[19:33:36] <S3> I have a
"Turbolinux" cd somewhere..
L1372[19:34:04] <S3> a really old
one
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L1375[20:06:45] <S3> LordRyan: I
discovered the other day that I can be like this:
L1376[20:07:03] <snowden89> lol.
L1377[20:07:04] <S3> http://hastebin.com/ebesalinep.lua
L1378[20:07:06] <S3> best feature
ever
L1379[20:07:18] <snowden89> try to
install something in apt-get
L1380[20:07:35] <snowden89> realise your
batch script has not been checking for updates for months
L1381[20:07:53] <S3> um
L1382[20:08:04] <S3> snowden89: where is
your computing license?
L1383[20:08:04] <LordRyan> S3: how does
that work?
L1384[20:08:06] <S3> I must see it
L1385[20:08:11] <LordRyan> snowden89: you
always check :P
L1386[20:08:38] <S3> LordRyan: if a Lua
function only has one argument, the parentheses can be omitted. An
anonymous table counts as one argument.
L1387[20:08:48] <S3> so you can make your
own parameterized functions, or your own closures.
L1388[20:08:53] <S3> :D
L1389[20:09:00] <LordRyan> Oh
L1390[20:09:05] <LordRyan> you can do it
with strings too
L1391[20:09:10] <S3> I just wish I knew
that ages ago
L1392[20:09:17] <S3> because holy shit
that makes things nice
L1393[20:09:20] <S3> oh?
L1394[20:09:24] <LordRyan> see: https://github.com/wiseguiz/Moon-Moon
L1395[20:09:34] <LordRyan> at
"Configuration"
L1396[20:09:43] <LordRyan> bot() returns
a function which accepts a table as first arg
L1397[20:10:27] *
CompanionCube should setup unattended upgrades on his
boxen
L1398[20:10:40] <S3> hold on here.. it
looks like there's two arguments
L1399[20:10:44] <LordRyan> nope
L1400[20:10:48] <S3> ...
L1401[20:11:11] <LordRyan> S3: bot
"" is a function, which is then called with {settigns go
here}
L1402[20:11:20] <LordRyan> also i should
change the name from "Esper" to "#!"
L1403[20:11:53] <S3> wait
"Esper" is part of the function name?
L1404[20:12:08] <LordRyan> no
L1405[20:12:11] <S3> what dafuq black
magic and sorcery is this
L1406[20:12:16] <LordRyan> bot
"Esper" returns a function
L1407[20:12:44] <LordRyan> function
bot(name) return function(data) data.name = name bots.append(data)
end end
L1408[20:13:13] <S3> hmmm
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L1410[20:13:50] <WOC> nice irc client
gamax
L1411[20:14:00] <gamax92> thanks
L1412[20:14:27] <LordRyan> my dog decided
right in front of me is optimal place for laying
L1413[20:14:30] <LordRyan> typing is hard
now :(
L1414[20:14:30] <CompanionCube> oo
L1415[20:14:43] <CompanionCube> it looks
like my distro has lua messagepack packaged
L1416[20:14:54] <gamax92> WOC:
DaMachinator?
L1417[20:15:22] <DaMachinator> yes, i am
WOC
L1418[20:15:28] <S3> LordRyan: so the ;'s
here are just cosmetic pretty much? and I'm just a little confused
becaue you have Esper being passed to bot but what happens to the
anonymous table that follows..
L1419[20:15:35] <S3> if bot() doesn't
have an arg for that
L1420[20:15:48] <S3> this makes me wonder
if I can REALY beef of the syntatical sugar
L1421[20:15:53] <S3> (of my oop
lib)
L1422[20:16:11] <LordRyan> CompanionCube:
can't you use string.pack
L1423[20:16:13] <LordRyan> :P
L1424[20:16:23] <LordRyan> S3: well, you
can use ,
L1425[20:16:31] <S3> right
L1426[20:16:43] <LordRyan> S3: bot()
returns a function, which is called with that table
L1427[20:16:59] <CompanionCube> LordRyan:
I have to admit it was out-of-context
L1428[20:17:06] <S3> I guess I'll have to
look for that function
L1429[20:17:18] <LordRyan> S3: one
sec
L1430[20:18:01] <LordRyan> https://github.com/wiseguiz/Moon-Moon/blob/master/main.lua#L42-L48
L1431[20:18:02] <LordRyan> there ya
go
L1432[20:18:38] <S3> I found it
L1433[20:19:03] <LordRyan> i hope so
considering it's highlighted in that link
L1434[20:20:04] <S3> lol
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L1436[20:20:51] <S3> this is
weird..
L1437[20:20:59] <LordRyan> what is 'this'
?
L1438[20:21:29] <S3> That's what I'd like
to know
L1439[20:21:47] <S3> I'm trying to figure
out where that table of parameters to bot("Esper") comes
into play
L1440[20:21:54] <LordRyan>
'file_data'
L1441[20:23:17] <S3> right I see that
much...
L1442[20:23:52] <LordRyan> S3: it's as
though i called bot("Esper")(data goes here)
L1443[20:24:04] <LordRyan> and since
bot("Esper") returns a function, that function is called
with the first argument as that table
L1444[20:24:05] <S3>
oh.................OH!
L1445[20:24:14] <S3> HAH
L1446[20:24:17] <S3> That is genius
L1447[20:24:45] <LordRyan> why thank you
:P
L1448[20:25:33] <S3> this would actually
clear a lot of stuff up.
L1449[20:25:48] <S3> (for my oop library
that eats RAM like they're candy)
L1450[20:25:58] <S3> they're doesn't even
belong there
L1451[20:26:31] <LordRyan> eatin up all
them dedotated whams
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L1453[20:27:15] <Dandrik> Could I bother
someone for some assistance?
L1454[20:28:18] <CompanionCube> don't ask
to ask
L1455[20:28:34] <CompanionCube> if
someone feels willing and capable to answer your question they
will
L1456[20:28:55] <Dandrik> I am having
trouble with getting OC 1.6.0.4 to see machines with the
adpater.
L1457[20:29:46] <CompanionCube> anything
more detailed?
L1458[20:29:47] <Dandrik> some stuff
works like comparator, deep resonance controller.
L1459[20:30:27] <Dandrik> however EnderIO
capacitor banks don't show up on components list
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L1461[20:33:36] <Dandrik> ME Controller
also doesn't show up
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L1463[20:34:40] <Dandrik> is there a
better way to get a list of machines that the include
components.lua?
L1464[20:35:12] <CompanionCube> Dandrik:
hm, you may want to try adding Computronics
L1465[20:36:41] <S3> so with these
changes, I could do something like this...
L1466[20:36:44] <S3> http://hastebin.com/yahaqerito.lua
L1467[20:36:49] <S3> CompanionCube,
LordRyan ^
L1468[20:36:58] <S3> however, I wonder
can I clean up the method function there?
L1469[20:37:10] <S3> and make that look
nicer
L1470[20:37:47] <S3> wow hastebin your
syntax and oh shit I made a typo
L1471[20:38:08] <S3> http://hastebin.com/yuvayexaka.lua
L1472[20:38:08] <S3> fixed
L1473[20:38:26] <S3> and wtf emacs for
moving the {}s around
L1474[20:39:04] <LordRyan> why is Foobar
capitalized in the quotes, but lowercase in assignment?
L1475[20:39:16] <Dandrik> CompanionCube:
Computronics look like its old MC 1.6.4. Thanks for the suggestion
though
L1476[20:39:26] <LordRyan> also S3 you'd
probably be better off with a preprocessor language :P
L1477[20:39:51] <S3> I think that would
be going too far..
L1478[20:40:26] <S3> it just looks ugly
putting the function() part after it
L1479[20:41:23] <S3> most of this stuff
already works but it is a bit more ugly looking
L1480[20:44:26] <gamax92> Dandrik: it has
1.7.10
L1481[20:44:40] <gamax92> oh right ...
what MC version are you on Dandrik?
L1482[20:44:58] <Dandrik> 1.10.2
L1483[20:45:25] <gamax92> http://files.vexatos.com/Computronics/Computronics-1.10.2-1.6.1.jar
L1484[20:46:43] <Dandrik> Gamax: thanks
I'll try that
L1485[20:52:46] <Dandrik> Gamax and
Companion: Thanks a lot that has got it working
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L1487[21:13:14] <S3> you know I kind of
wish that there was some minute specifics about scope in lua
L1488[21:13:17] <S3> and require
L1489[21:14:15] <S3> for example. I wish
I knew of a way to tryly control what happens when I have a file
that has a function (not local) of foobar() and I require that
file, then another file. if b.lua has foobar() and a.lua requires
b.lua and a.lua then requires c.lua, c.lua can call
foobar()....
L1490[21:14:18] <S3> and that's
weird.
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L1492[21:14:45] <S3> it makes sense with
the way that Lua works but I wish it were only visible to
a.lua
L1493[21:14:52] <S3> (and obviously
b.lua)
L1494[21:15:10] <S3> it would be nice if
c.lua would have to specifically ask for that
L1495[21:22:06] <LordRyan> S3:
loadfile(file_name, mode, environment)
L1496[21:22:17] <LordRyan> take a look
into setting a custom environment for b.lua
L1497[21:22:38] <LordRyan> or, just use
5.2+ module system like an actually good dev would :P
L1498[21:22:40] <S3> oh yeah.. I forgot
about that shit
L1499[21:22:54] <S3> wlel I'm using
5.3
L1500[21:23:06] <S3> I'm doing it
differently now
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L1503[21:38:35] <S3> CompanionCube: this
look better?
L1504[21:38:38] <S3> http://hastebin.com/erihulawov.lua
L1505[21:39:34] <LordRyan>
>OCBSD
L1506[21:39:38] <LordRyan> is this the OC
S3IX?
L1507[21:41:07] <S3> yes,
L1508[21:41:29] <S3> but I'm redoing some
of it
L1509[21:41:42] <S3> I'm revolving it
aorund this new oop system
L1510[21:41:59] <S3> almost everything is
done with mixins
L1511[21:42:10] <S3> makes fileio so
simple
L1512[21:42:26] <CompanionCube> it does
look very readable
L1513[21:43:01] <S3> thats supposed to
say function my_driver:put() and such
L1514[21:43:05] <S3> not .put
L1515[21:43:11] <S3> it's a
prototype
L1516[21:44:15] <S3> LordRyan: a lot of
stuff has changed on the s3ix base
L1517[21:44:50] <S3> and I've even
considered after years bringing back the name S3IX
L1518[21:45:01] <S3> and keeping CC
portability on the roadmap
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L1520[21:45:19] <S3> the problem with CC
portability is 5.x incompats
L1521[21:45:48] <S3> but I hear CC
supports 5.2 now
L1522[21:45:57] *
CompanionCube has to brb
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L1524[21:48:18] <S3> LordRyan: the main
reason of changing from OCBSD back to S3IX for the name is because
I decided to go with a microkernel design instead of
monolithic
L1525[21:50:11] <LordRyan> > and
keeping CC portability on the roadmap
L1526[21:50:16] <LordRyan> :(
L1527[21:50:21] <LordRyan> guess i'll go
take a nap for a few decades
L1528[21:52:02] <S3> and the process
model is much different
L1529[21:52:02] <S3> I decided to try and
play with the idea of fully event driving the userspace software,
instead of user software deadlooping for events and things, more of
a register events and the message passing on the process bys will
decide when to "wake you up"
L1530[21:52:37] <S3> the downside is that
it sorta makes you look at it in another angle when you want to
"do stuff in the background while waiting"
L1531[21:53:24] <S3> LordRyan: CC
portability will likely never happen
L1532[21:53:52] <S3> ALTHOUGH! One thing
I did keep is the component bus driver prototype
L1533[21:54:09] <Achai> honk honk
L1534[21:54:23] <S3> morning Achai
L1535[21:54:28] *
LordRyan honks Achai
L1536[21:54:32] <Achai> its like late
here
L1537[21:54:34] <Achai> but morning
L1538[21:54:41] <S3> LordRyan: I mean you
could just make a peripheral bus driver..
L1539[21:55:20] <S3> then you'd need a CC
filesystem driver, and a terminal IO driver for CC
L1540[21:55:40] <S3> after that you
should be good long as you have input drivers for CC's keyboard and
mouse if you needed those
L1541[21:56:20] <LordRyan> S3: i was more
joking that adding CC compat would delay it; I don't like the CC
"OS" system
L1542[21:56:32] <LordRyan> you can't
write a bootloader, you can't write a standalone OS
L1543[21:56:34] <LordRyan> :<
L1544[21:56:38] <S3> yeah...
L1545[21:56:54] <Achai> LordRyan:
technically you can
L1546[21:56:56] <S3> well you kinda can
by editing bios.lua
L1547[21:57:00] <Achai> unless my method
has been patched
L1548[21:57:10] <Achai> I used to have
this thing called "pull event bomb"
L1549[21:57:23] <S3> you mean busy
waiting? :P
L1550[21:57:26] <Achai> it would do some
tricks until I start running code from bios.lua
L1551[21:57:31] <S3> ah
L1552[21:57:40] <Achai> and CraftOS would
literally stop existing
L1553[21:57:45] <LordRyan> O.o
L1554[21:57:54] <Achai> it was dank
L1555[21:57:58] <Achai> dunno if it works
anymore
L1556[21:58:08] <S3> in the original s3ix
code I was making it shadow the rom folder
L1557[21:58:23] <S3> it overloaded tge
filesystem apiu
L1558[21:58:25] <S3> api*
L1559[21:58:28] <gamax92> Achai: I don't
think you were the only one to discover that :P
L1560[21:58:41] <S3> gamax also made
ccgrub
L1561[21:58:46] <S3> which worked
nicely
L1562[21:58:59] <gamax92> yeah ... it's a
thing
L1563[21:59:17] <Achai> i can't find my
CCDesk folder
L1564[21:59:33] <S3> S3IX will still have
the FreeBSd loader port
L1565[21:59:34] <Achai> where is it in
windows
L1566[21:59:34] <S3> XD
L1567[21:59:36] <S3> for OC
L1568[21:59:45] <S3> your forth powered
boot loader o' fun
L1569[22:00:17] <gamax92> does CC
actually have Lua 5.2 or is it just the awkward '5.2' ontop of 5.1
still
L1570[22:00:26] <S3> no idea
L1571[22:00:31] <S3> I haven't used CC in
forever
L1572[22:00:52] <S3> well wrong
L1573[22:00:56] <S3> I used CC's
turtles
L1574[22:01:05] <S3> because turtles are
still useful to me
L1575[22:01:37] <Achai> ok, so what peb
did was error up the chain with os.pullEvent until it finds bios in
the stacktrace
L1576[22:01:58] <Achai> it also overrides
os.shutdown with code to start the new code
L1577[22:02:37] <gamax92> CraftOS still
exists at that point though
L1578[22:03:09] <Achai> it could never
call back into craftos though
L1579[22:03:21] <Achai> if you scrub it
from the globals then its really gone
L1580[22:03:23] <S3> iif the way S3IX
worked was that it provided a bios.lua file that literally showed
the ENTIRE api and sanboxed it
L1581[22:03:35] <S3> and then gave you
helper functions to access minimally needed stuff
L1582[22:03:52] <S3> iirc*
L1583[22:04:28] <S3> then it fucked up
the filesystem api
L1584[22:04:33] <S3> gave you wrapper
functions
L1585[22:04:45] <S3> so you didn't
actually have access to fs
L1586[22:05:27] <S3> but if thewre's one
thing nice about the new S3IX it's unmanaged hard drives XD
L1587[22:05:51] <Achai> oh lord
L1588[22:06:25] <S3> yeah, OCBSD caches
sectors in RAM (configurable) for better performance
L1589[22:06:39] <S3> on an unmanaged
drive
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L1591[22:07:34] <S3> I'm just concerned
about fs corruption
L1592[22:07:48] <S3> when people shut
their systems off with the button
L1593[22:08:02] <Achai> heh
L1594[22:08:47] <S3> yeah, so when OCBSd
is a bit more usable, I will probably have to come up with some
ideas with Magik6k to create a meta journal or something for
mrfs
L1595[22:13:42] <S3> bvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvg
nmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
L1596[22:13:55] <Achai> uh...?
L1597[22:14:03] <S3> cat
L1598[22:14:23] <Achai> ok
L1599[22:15:26] <S3> what does the cat
say?! nmmmmmmmmmm... apparently.
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