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L1[00:19:41] <Izaya> am quite disliking being forced to use Adwaita
L2[00:19:52] <Izaya> can I kill the GNOME devs now?
L3[00:21:12] <gamax92> GTK3 is still awful, but at least Arc is fully working on 3.20
L4[00:22:26] <gamax92> I would never use it's dark theme though, vertex dark is nice
L5[00:23:34] <Xal> >not having a gnu operating system
L6[00:23:50] <Xal> >not using the kool desktop environment
L7[00:24:35] <Xal> gnu-free*
L8[00:28:55] <ping> gamax92, ive been using vertex dark since /that/ gtk update
L9[00:29:13] <ping> not to be confused with /that/ recent gtk update that broke every DM
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L13[01:14:03] <Forecaster> Lizzy: gpu? :3
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L110[02:08:56] <EnderBot2> Ohai there Lizzy
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L125[04:09:44] <ade129> I love how 1 out of 1000 GTK themes work with libreoffice
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L127[04:20:55] <LordRyan> is it that default one?
L128[04:21:07] * LordRyan doesn't use libreoffice anyways.
L129[04:25:54] <ade129> so what office do you use
L130[04:26:41] <LordRyan> Google Docs.
L131[04:34:34] <Izaya> >wanting all your documents being watched by Big Brother
L132[04:34:38] <Izaya> if it works for you I guess
L133[04:35:32] <LordRyan> Izaya: if Google wants to go look at my resume, i would have absolutely -no- objection.
L134[04:36:02] <Izaya> Good luck with that :P
L135[04:36:30] <LordRyan> well so far my luck with getting *anyone* to look at my resume isn't going that well
L136[04:36:53] <Izaya> Upload it to other data collection companies perhaps
L137[04:37:18] <LordRyan> i had my PDF in my onedrive
L138[04:39:25] <ade129> I love how one of my friend's main reason of not using android phones is being afraid of viruses... The best part is they say(s? Does singular they need an S) that there's a 100% chance of catching them when visiting... naughty? sites and he's not even 18
L139[04:39:51] <LordRyan> i don't think plural say needs an s either. so...
L140[04:40:11] <ade129> why is singular they a thing anyway
L141[04:40:15] <Izaya> unless you're running like
L142[04:40:17] <Izaya> cyanogenmod n such
L143[04:40:26] <LordRyan> well, if you call someone an 'it' that's "degrading"
L144[04:40:29] <Izaya> with a healthy dose of paranoia
L145[04:40:31] <LordRyan> and we need a gender neutral pronoun
L146[04:40:32] <ade129> I use a nexus so no problem
L147[04:40:48] <LordRyan> people decided on they cause it already exists as a gender neutral pronoun and was pretty much used already
L148[04:40:49] <Izaya> ie all the usual crazy adblocking stuff, LibreJS etc
L149[04:40:52] <ade129> Why not just abandon "he" and "she" and call everyone "it"
L150[04:41:02] <LordRyan> 'degrading'
L151[04:41:05] <LordRyan> OH WAHT THE FUCK MINECRAFT
L152[04:41:11] <ade129> oh nvm
L153[04:41:15] <LordRyan> is 10 mods not enough?
L154[04:41:21] <LordRyan> do you demand more to be sacrificed from my list
L155[04:41:24] <ade129> Cantonese doesn't make such pointless distinctions
L156[04:41:40] <Izaya> I'm all for calling people people
L157[04:42:51] <ade129> Standard Chinese has 5, 1 <他> for Male, 1 <她> for Female, 1 <它> for Inanimate objects, 1 <牠> for Animals and 1 <祂> for Deities (usually the Christian God Yahweh)
L158[04:43:23] <ade129> Of course, the inanimate 3rd person pronoun just HAS to be different
L159[04:45:12] <Lizzy> ....dafuq? just found out that M$ released a version of PowerShell for linux..... why?
L160[04:45:23] <Lizzy> bash/zsh are far superior
L161[04:45:24] <Izaya> Lizzy: because Microsoft
L162[04:45:29] <Lizzy> Izaya, probably
L163[04:45:42] <Izaya> obviously because SlowerShell is the least bad on Windows it'll be the least bad on Loonix, right?
L164[04:46:03] <Lizzy> they're also looking at replacing cmd.exe with powershell in windows 10 at some point
L165[04:46:25] <Lizzy> Izaya, if you have the linux sub-system stuff, then bash is the last bad shell on windows :P
L166[04:46:42] <Izaya> on Winderps 7 it's the least bad
L167[04:46:44] <Izaya> it still sucks
L168[04:47:34] <Lizzy> kinda wish my work could update to the next version of Win10 but we currently can't because M$ fucked over roaming profiles with it
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L170[04:51:53] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W81Fjqh_Q6E ~ <3
L171[04:51:53] <MichiBot> TVアニメ BROTHERS CONFLICT OP (full ver.) HD | length: 3m 41s | Likes: 17,470 Dislikes: 357 Views: 4,100,945 | by Mikoto | Published On 6/7/2013
L172[04:52:01] <LordRyan> <@Lizzy> they're also looking at replacing cmd.exe with powershell in windows 10 at some point
L173[04:52:07] <LordRyan> thank Jeebus i've migrated entirely to Linux
L174[04:52:27] <LordRyan> Lizzy: it's running a Ubuntu root tho
L175[04:52:49] <Izaya> Inari: I love the MC's socks
L176[04:52:59] <Lizzy> ?
L177[04:53:42] <Inari> Izaya: Hmm not a huge fan of them, but they're also not bad
L178[04:54:18] <LordRyan> Lizzy: bash on windows runs in a Ubuntu environment
L179[04:54:49] <Lizzy> LordRyan, yes?
L180[04:54:55] * Lizzy is not sure what your point is
L181[04:55:04] <LordRyan> I personally despise Ubuntu.
L182[04:55:31] <Izaya> Is there any reason you can't run binaries for any other system?
L183[04:55:31] <Lizzy> it's not that bad, it's fefault unity desktop is utter shite though
L184[04:55:38] <Lizzy> Izaya, ?
L185[04:55:52] <LordRyan> Last I used it, it was absolutely horrid.
L186[04:55:54] <Izaya> There's no reason you couldn't say replace the Ubuntu files with Debian files, right?
L187[04:56:00] <LordRyan> Hopefully it's changed but I'd prefer to not go back.
L188[04:56:07] <Inari> Annd back to merging skyrim mods
L189[04:56:16] <LordRyan> Izaya: knowing MS, there's no legal or technical reason but -something's- going to break
L190[04:56:30] <Lizzy> Izaya, many things would break due to package version differences, but i think it would be possible since they both use apt
L191[04:56:44] <Izaya> couldn't you just like
L192[04:56:51] <Izaya> nuke the / for the loonix subsystem
L193[04:56:58] <Izaya> and dump Debian files in there though?
L194[04:57:23] <Lizzy> oh, you mean dumping the debian ones on windows
L195[04:57:26] <Lizzy> err, not sure
L196[04:57:41] <Lizzy> haven't actually played around with the Linux subsystem yet
L197[04:58:02] <Izaya> personally I have something a lot nicer than a 'linux subsystem'
L198[04:58:15] <Lizzy> s/sub//
L199[04:58:15] <MichiBot> <Izaya> personally I have something a lot nicer than a 'linux system'
L200[04:58:41] <Lizzy> lol my laptop's load average is 0,0,0
L201[04:58:56] <LordRyan> Well I guess I'm not gonna play Minecraft
L202[04:59:03] * Lizzy <3 Arch
L203[04:59:04] <Izaya> why does Windows memory management suck so hard?
L204[04:59:08] * Lizzy also <3 vifino
L205[04:59:13] <LordRyan> Stupid insanely high RAM usage
L206[04:59:13] <Lizzy> Izaya, M$
L207[04:59:23] <Izaya> even when I dip into swap on loonix it degrades gracefully
L208[05:03:27] <Izaya> https://i.imgur.com/fiNMLEb.jpg much better than a subsystem
L209[05:03:30] <Izaya> a real system
L210[05:04:11] <Lizzy> i don't think i've ever actually dropped into swap in the past year.
L211[05:04:27] <Izaya> the only time I hit swap is when I'm doing virtualization
L212[05:04:54] <LordRyan> i don't even have swap set up
L213[05:05:02] <LordRyan> which is really screwing over my system :D
L214[05:05:23] <Lizzy> my laptop has 16GB of ram
L215[05:05:35] <Izaya> my laptop has 2GB of RAM :D
L216[05:06:04] <Lizzy> it did have 8GB but C:S needed about ~8GB worth to load one of my cities and all the mods i used on it
L217[05:06:39] <ade129> is 2GB RAM and a 32GB SSD for mostly light programming enough or do I have to put a little bit more money (which I really don't want to)
L218[05:07:11] <Izaya> I need to get a SSD for my laptop
L219[05:07:17] <Izaya> or perhaps a SD card -> SATA adaptor
L220[05:07:18] <Lizzy> if you're using linux, that's enough, windows add 2 more GB
L221[05:07:34] <ade129> Hmm... Linux it is
L222[05:07:46] <ade129> I might attach a 2TB SSD for data storage
L223[05:07:49] <LordRyan> 2 GB RAM is fine for Linux
L224[05:07:58] <LordRyan> at most I think 1 GB by the OS and DE
L225[05:08:08] <LordRyan> unless you use Eclipse as your IDE
L226[05:08:12] <LordRyan> in which case get 16 GB RAM
L227[05:08:24] <ade129> How about pycharm?
L228[05:08:33] <ade129> I'm going to use LxQt
L229[05:08:45] <ade129> (pycharm is based on IntelliJ for some reason)
L230[05:09:17] <Lizzy> also my laptop with just i3, hexchat, nomachine and the system utilities uses about 700M of RAM
L231[05:09:28] <Lizzy> add firefox and i'm now up to 2.3G usage
L232[05:09:38] <LordRyan> dunno about other editors/IDEs really
L233[05:09:44] <ade129> F it, I think I'm going use atom or some other text editor
L234[05:09:47] <LordRyan> just know that people complain a lot about Eclipse
L235[05:09:53] <LordRyan> Visual Studio Code? :D
L236[05:10:05] <LordRyan> it's like Visual Studio, but not. at all.
L237[05:10:39] <ade129> I think that chrome can have 10 tabs on 2GB of ram
L238[05:11:11] <LordRyan> I personally use Vim. I used VS Code for a while; it's nice.
L239[05:11:38] <Izaya> I personally use vim because it doesn't 100% suck
L240[05:11:49] <Izaya> nvim and emacs are equally not-sucky
L241[05:15:04] <LordRyan> i can't get used to emacs.
L242[05:15:28] <LordRyan> i was going to start using nvim but there's the almost split communities between the two
L243[05:15:43] <LordRyan> they each have their own async systeme
L244[05:17:05] <Forecaster> Brackets is nice :>
L245[05:17:33] <ade129> then you'll love Chinese
L246[05:17:46] <Forecaster> what? :P
L247[05:18:08] <ade129> we have （）︵︶｛｝︷︸
L248[05:18:13] <ade129> and way more
L249[05:18:21] <ade129> 「」『』〈〉【】
L250[05:18:29] <ade129> 〔〕
L251[05:19:21] <ade129> ︹︺︻︼《》︽
L252[05:20:11] <ade129> 〉︿﹀﹁﹂﹃﹄
L253[05:20:31] <ade129> that's all we have IIRC, except the hexagonal ones
L254[05:20:54] <Forecaster> Brackets is a text editor
L255[05:20:55] <Forecaster> :P
L256[05:20:59] <ade129> lol
L257[05:21:17] <ade129> Seriously though, we have too many brackets and punctuation
L258[05:22:45] <ade129> for every English punctuation we have 2
L259[05:23:00] <ade129> Except dashes, English has 3 and we have 1
L260[05:23:53] <Izaya> https://i.imgur.com/r6nsmZs.png
L261[05:24:16] <LordRyan> So about how much would 4x8 GB RAM cost?
L262[05:24:33] <Izaya> About 160 USD I'd guess
L263[05:24:49] <LordRyan> Ugh. :(
L264[05:25:03] <LordRyan> I just want to play with a perfectly reasonable number of mods
L265[05:26:53] <Forecaster> 4x8?
L266[05:27:09] <Forecaster> I'm playing with ~100 mods on like 8Gb
L267[05:28:17] <Forecaster> 32 is a tad over´kill
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L269[05:29:34] <LordRyan> Forecaster: judging by the fact I'm at 40 and OOMing before it is even done loading, I've no issues with overkill
L270[05:29:55] <Forecaster> ...
L271[05:30:07] <Forecaster> fine whatever
L272[05:30:38] <LordRyan> Oh
L273[05:30:40] <LordRyan> I forgot
L274[05:30:45] <LordRyan> I use two computers
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L276[05:30:59] <Izaya9> muahahaha
L277[05:31:01] <LordRyan> So I need double the chips etc
L278[05:31:09] <Izaya9> I've gotten onto IRC from 9front
L279[05:31:16] <LordRyan> Forecaster: sorry for forgetting a tiny detail :3
L280[05:31:21] <xandaros> ade129: Technically, English has 3 kinds of dashes, you're right. Practically, barely anyone knows the difference and even less use them appropriately
L281[05:31:47] <Forecaster> why do you use two identical computers
L282[05:31:50] <LordRyan> I know hyphen is in word
L283[05:31:54] <ade129> I like how I can't type an em-dash in most keyboards
L284[05:32:09] <xandaros> I can type - and —
L285[05:32:12] <LordRyan> And I think em dash is a stop in a sentence
L286[05:32:26] <xandaros> No clue which one the second one is - I have a monospaced font xD
L287[05:32:38] <ade129> that's the long AF dash
L288[05:32:41] <LordRyan> Forecaster: one's my mom's, one's mine. Mine runs Linux. Mom's runs Windows.
L289[05:32:55] <Forecaster> okay then
L290[05:33:08] <LordRyan> By my dad's house rule she must have equal or better computer than anyone in the house
L291[05:33:12] <ade129> en-dash is kind of useless
L292[05:33:15] <Forecaster> what the heck
L293[05:33:29] <Forecaster> Lizzy: did you receive a steam start email just now?
L294[05:33:32] <LordRyan> If I get a computer better than what she has, I can obviously make enough to support myself
L295[05:33:42] <Forecaster> or within the last couple of hours
L296[05:33:50] <Lizzy> nope
L297[05:33:51] <ade129> (en-dash: The slightly longer than a hyphen dash)
L298[05:34:04] <LordRyan> I dunno the purpose of an en dash
L299[05:34:04] <Forecaster> D:<
L300[05:34:16] <Izaya9> there's only -
L301[05:34:16] <xandaros> LordRyan: Numbers: 5-7
L302[05:34:22] <xandaros> "five to seven"
L303[05:34:33] <ade129> we use ~
L304[05:34:34] <LordRyan> Forecaster: so either I get my own apartment or I upgrade my mom's computer
L305[05:34:53] <Forecaster> but you're upgrading two computers
L306[05:34:53] <LordRyan> ~ is an approximate number though
L307[05:35:06] <Forecaster> instead of one
L308[05:35:08] <ade129> Because Japanese has a chouon that looks like a dash
L309[05:35:12] <LordRyan> Forecaster: yes
L310[05:35:49] <Forecaster> makes no sense to me but whatever
L311[05:35:55] <xandaros> Japanese has a fucktonne of dashes
L312[05:36:00] <ade129> We have a wavy underline for names of published materials (or the double greater than less than ones) and a normal underline for names
L313[05:36:28] <LordRyan> Forecaster: her logic is that if I can afford a better computer than her, I can get an apartment
L314[05:36:34] <xandaros> At least if google translate's IME is any indication
L315[05:36:56] <LordRyan> I secretly bump her up from 4GB to 8GB and get my own RAM then I'm good
L316[05:37:43] <Forecaster> ...
L317[05:37:49] <ade129> @LordRyan Not the case in Hong Kong... You need like 100 extremely high end PCs (like $5000) for a 2 room apartment
L318[05:38:00] <Forecaster> still makes no sense but I've stopped caring
L319[05:38:21] <Izaya> ttps://i.imgur.com/f7EV9fp.png
L320[05:38:41] <LordRyan> https://i.imgur.com/f7EV9fp.png
L321[05:38:44] <ade129> TTPS, the non hyper version of HTTPS
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L323[05:39:34] <LordRyan> Text transfer protocol. To transfer an image.
L324[05:40:06] <ade129> Just like how HTTP is used for downloading everything while we have FTP
L325[05:40:36] <LordRyan> I need to look into how FTP works.
L326[05:41:31] <Lizzy> ftp is meh
L327[05:41:42] <Izaya> FTP is terrible
L328[05:41:43] <Izaya> don't use FTP
L329[05:41:46] <Lizzy> ^
L330[05:41:56] <Lizzy> lets all use TFTP instead
L331[05:42:14] <Izaya> tftp is somehow less bad
L332[05:42:26] <Izaya> does it support encryption?
L333[05:42:26] <LordRyan> I'll just stick with HTTP.
L334[05:42:51] <Lizzy> Izaya, not sure
L335[05:42:58] <Lizzy> though it uses UDP
L336[05:44:03] <Inari> Whats terrible about FTP
L337[05:44:15] <Izaya> active and passive mode
L338[05:44:20] <Izaya> both are bad
L339[05:44:24] <Izaya> though passive mode is less bad
L340[05:44:25] <Inari> bad how
L341[05:44:44] <Izaya> "oh yeah let's just open ANTOHER tcp stream, great idea"
L342[05:47:09] <Izaya> even better
L343[05:47:21] <Izaya> "make the SERVER start the TCP connection to the client"
L344[05:53:17] <ade129> 76% of internet standards aren't that good anyway
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L346[05:55:26] <Saphire> My reply for any "What's up" question for the following half of year or so: "What's up?" - "Water freezing temperature"
L347[05:56:49] <Inari> Wat
L348[06:10:03] <ade129> my MBP refuses to detect my battery...
L349[06:10:07] <ade129> :D
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L352[06:45:47] <Gavle> hello everyone
L353[06:45:51] <Gavle> how are you doing?
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L358[07:02:46] <ade129> I'm probably throwing away my shit MBP
L359[07:03:12] <Gavle> ade129, MacBook Pro?
L360[07:03:13] <ade129> Budget is $350
L361[07:03:17] <ade129> yep
L362[07:03:35] <Gavle> heh
L363[07:05:31] <Mettaton_Fab> can i hasz it so it can still survive?
L364[07:08:23] <Gavle> Mettaton_Fab, MGR told me about you
L365[07:08:25] <Gavle> no
L366[07:08:37] <Mettaton_Fab> but why?
L367[07:08:57] <Mettaton_Fab> i could maaybe install a linux distro on it.
L368[07:09:43] <Gavle> wait
L369[07:09:52] <Gavle> @ade129 how old is your MBP?
L370[07:10:24] <Mettaton_Fab> S-ATA, or PATA?
L371[07:10:28] <ade129> Mid 2012
L372[07:10:55] <ade129> Both the battery and the keyboard is dead
L373[07:11:19] <Gavle> ok
L374[07:11:21] <ade129> You might want to take that fact into consideration before taking that
L375[07:11:24] <Gavle> Mettaton_Fab, you can have it
L376[07:11:56] <ade129> If you want it, Just... pay for the shipping thx (I'm from Hong Kong)
L377[07:14:07] <ade129> The repairs probably would cost $360
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L379[07:18:25] <xandaros> Saphire: I usually respond with "space"
L380[07:19:17] <ade129> I usually reply with "78% Nitrogen, 21% Oxygen, and some other stuff"
L381[07:20:06] <xandaros> I suppose "the sun" would be better, at least at daytime. Since "space" is really a response to "what's above". People don't realise that, though
L382[07:20:33] <xandaros> "The opposite of down" might be good, too
L383[07:20:56] <ade129> Maybe give him a dictionary definition
L384[07:21:59] <ade129> There are like 92 definition
L385[07:22:26] <ade129> With the last one being "up your ass, Slang: Vulgar. shove1(def 8)."
L386[07:22:42] <xandaros> lol
L387[07:23:30] <xandaros> "What's up?" "A dildo" "Wat‽" "Sorry, thought you wanted to know what was up my arse"
L388[07:23:42] <ade129> !
L389[07:23:47] <ade129> oops
L390[07:27:12] <Mettaton_Fab> how much would shipping even cost?
L391[07:27:32] <ade129> which country do you live in?
L392[07:28:26] <Mettaton_Fab> Germany
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L394[07:29:11] <Mettaton_Fab> is it a 13" ?
L395[07:31:06] <ade129> yes
L396[07:31:46] <Mettaton_Fab> nah, not worh it.
L397[07:32:16] <Mettaton_Fab> i found out that a replacement uppel body costs around 190 USD
L398[07:33:21] <Lizzy> Forecaster: just seen the stream notification
L399[07:33:31] <xandaros> Apart from the screen, what else does it have? USB sockets, CD drive? If the shipping doesn't cost too much, I might be interested in it for the parts
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L401[07:34:06] <ade129> 33USD to germany
L402[07:34:21] <Forecaster> Lizzy: I have no idea why it sent one out...
L403[07:34:32] <ade129> The case has like 3000 dents though, I'm a careless piece of ----
L404[07:36:16] <Forecaster> stupid server :|
L405[07:36:17] <Lizzy> Forecaster, oh, that might have been an old one
L406[07:36:33] <Lizzy> phone just showed me it
L407[07:36:34] <Lizzy> ¬_¬
L408[07:36:40] <Lizzy> stupid phone notifications
L409[07:36:56] <ade129> Postage fees: (Warning: might take a month or so to ship across half of the earth) http://www.hongkongpost.hk/filemanager/common/forms/pos15_eng.pdf#page=7
L410[07:37:47] <Forecaster> check the datetime on the email
L411[07:38:03] <Mettaton_Fab> i'm more likely to buy replacement parts for my current laptop.
L412[07:38:12] <Forecaster> I got it after 12 sometime but the time on the email was 11:18 today
L413[07:40:02] <Lizzy> Forecaster, it was on the 17th and 19th of november
L414[07:40:08] <Forecaster> ah
L415[07:40:14] <Forecaster> well I got a new one for some reason
L416[07:40:21] <Forecaster> dated today
L417[07:41:29] <Lizzy> ffs outlook.com dont class IPS emails as junk
L418[07:41:47] <Forecaster> my email server is garbage
L419[07:42:00] <Forecaster> hopefully I'll be able to set up a proper one on the new server
L420[07:42:48] <ade129> Maybe use the one Hillary used
L421[07:43:29] <Lizzy> speaking of mail servers, i need to set my new one up
L422[07:43:39] <Lizzy> #dns MX theender.net
L423[07:43:57] <Lizzy> hmm, i think deadbeef is still dead
L424[07:44:01] <Forecaster> mine doesn't work properly because of a lack of reverse dns or somesuch
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L426[07:55:34] <Mimiru> hey Lizzy... I can't reach the forums via http, gives me the default nginx page
L427[07:55:38] <Mimiru> https works though
L428[07:55:48] <Lizzy> oh, derp lemme go fix that
L429[07:56:09] <Lizzy> the oc configuration is still using ocft.theender.net for it's server_name parts
L430[07:56:35] <Lizzy> and the default configuration doesn't have https which is why it goes straight into the forums
L431[07:57:57] <Lizzy> there
L432[07:58:01] <Lizzy> should work properly now
L433[07:58:26] <Mimiru> yep bounces to https now
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L436[07:59:40] <Lizzy> lol, we both replied to the topic Mimiru
L437[07:59:48] <Mimiru> :P
L438[08:00:16] <Lizzy> i'm not syre why tge forums keeps asking to display notifications...
L439[08:00:32] <ade129> sangar really is dead
L440[08:00:59] <ade129> (not literally, just missing)
L441[08:01:08] <Forecaster> he'll be back, more powerful that you could imagine
L442[08:01:15] <Forecaster> sangar the white
L443[08:04:43] <Lizzy> well that's just fucking useful
L444[08:04:53] <Lizzy> the IPS forums are offline
L445[08:09:29] <Forecaster> IPS?
L446[08:10:40] <Lizzy> Invision Power Services
L447[08:10:51] <Lizzy> aka the peeps who make the forum we use
L448[08:12:47] <Mimiru> Bleh...
L449[08:14:34] <Gavle> goodbye
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L451[08:17:00] <ade129> Just curious: Doesn't pretty much everyone here like open source
L452[08:17:08] <ade129> *does
L453[08:17:28] <Mimiru> Nope, closed source ftfw!
L454[08:21:12] * Lizzy closes Mimiru
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L456[08:23:16] <ade129> For some reason 99% of people use paid forum software...
L457[08:23:51] <Lizzy> mainly because the free ones are kinda crap sometimes
L458[08:24:08] <ade129> possibly,
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L460[08:28:18] <Lizzy> hmm, i feel like making a fancy program that i can use to manage my server resources and stuff. i'm thinking of being able to add "hosts" (which the object for will contain stuff like cpu count, disk, ram etc) that i can then attach/assign vms to and have it then reflect the host status so i can see at a quick glance how much resources a particular host has left
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L463[08:46:26] <Forecaster> mostly what you pay for is access to support that isn't community based :P
L464[08:48:48] <Forecaster> I believe
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L466[08:58:46] <Michiyo> ^ and upgrades for the life of the license
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L469[09:18:39] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNNlaJXMCSU
L470[09:18:39] <MichiBot> ENDLESS ELDER SCROLLS RAPS - Songs of Skyrim | Dan Bull | length: 22m 18s | Likes: 5,282 Dislikes: 53 Views: 97,119 | by Dan Bull | Published On 17/11/2016
L471[09:35:17] <MGR> @ade129 For me, open-sourceness of the software I use is irrelevant
L472[09:35:31] <MGR> I differentiate based on price and feature-set
L473[09:35:47] <MGR> As for the software gavle and I use, I tend to strike a balance
L474[09:36:29] * vifino snuggles Lizzy
L475[09:36:43] * Lizzy snuggles vifino
L476[09:37:01] <MGR> ah, he left
L477[09:37:03] <MGR> whoops
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L481[09:41:10] <LuMistry> Greetings
L482[09:45:53] <MGR> greetings LuMistry
L483[09:45:56] <MGR> how are you?
L484[09:46:02] <LuMistry> well, you?
L485[09:46:08] <MGR> I'm good too
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L490[10:15:49] <gamax92> Izaya: libreoffice is pretty bad though
L491[10:27:05] <Mettaton_Fab> libreoffice is free.
L492[10:27:08] <gamax92> PDFs outputted by it would get marked as invalid through one of my schools document processing systems
L493[10:27:20] <gamax92> Had to use Google Docs
L494[10:29:40] <gamax92> also ... I found out some time later it uses the wrong page dimensions, Google Docs doesn't
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L496[10:37:58] zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L497[10:38:39] <Vexatos> o\
L498[10:38:51] <Forecaster> o-
L499[10:39:11] <Lizzy> o\
L500[10:39:21] <Lizzy> s/\///
L501[10:39:25] <Lizzy> meh
L502[10:39:31] <Lizzy> o/
L503[10:39:39] <Lizzy> is what i should have done
L504[10:39:46] <Forecaster> :P
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L506[10:40:05] zsh sets mode: +v on Vexaton
L507[10:40:07] <Lizzy> also it's my dad's birthday tomorrow and i haven't got him a card, need to do that tomorroe
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L510[10:40:24] <Forecaster> you haven't got me a card either yet >:
L511[10:40:28] <Vexatos> o7
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L514[10:42:20] <Lizzy> Forecaster, fuck it i still need to package up the card and send it
L515[10:42:35] <Lizzy> I'll also look into doing that tomorrow
L516[10:42:45] <Forecaster> :<
L517[10:43:01] <Lizzy> sorry!
L518[10:46:49] <Skully> Slowly, but surely. ?
L519[10:46:49] <Skully> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/125675911474446336/250301000286470144/unknown.png
L520[10:46:57] <Mettaton_Fab> could someone get ma a really old CD drive wit the play button?
L521[10:47:27] <Forecaster> what do your mom want with one of those?
L522[10:47:28] <Lizzy> no
L523[10:48:15] <Mettaton_Fab> *me
L524[10:48:38] <Mettaton_Fab> i could also just find out where the play button has to be attached to.
L525[10:48:57] <Forecaster> :P
L526[10:50:03] <Mettaton_Fab> i can build a CD player with that drive.
L527[10:50:48] <gamax92> or just get a CD player
L528[10:51:02] <Forecaster> OR steal one
L529[10:52:18] <Mettaton_Fab> i might be able to sneak one out of my schools IT room.
L530[10:56:10] <Forecaster> http://owlturd.com/post/153473441494
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L535[11:06:01] <Lizzy> home time!!!
L536[11:06:10] * Lizzy smooches vifino's derpy face
L537[11:06:34] <Forecaster> yay
L538[11:06:37] * Forecaster is home
L539[11:06:47] <Forecaster> rendering lp ep199
L540[11:07:02] <Forecaster> yay
L541[11:08:20] <Vexatos> will you make ep999 a special episode? :>
L542[11:08:41] <Forecaster> sure
L543[11:11:38] <Michiyo> so.. my moms insurance just paid out..
L544[11:11:41] <Michiyo> $58
L545[11:11:48] <Forecaster> ...
L546[11:12:03] <payonel> o/
L547[11:12:36] <Michiyo> So now I just need to come up with $3,836 to pay for the funeral...
L548[11:12:39] <Forecaster> hi payo
L549[11:12:42] <payonel> Forecaster: o/
L550[11:13:39] <payonel> Vexatos: you didn't like my sha1 suggestion :) -- i considered moving it to just "feedback required"
L551[11:14:37] <Vexatos> payonel, I don't expect everyone to know how to get a file hash, nor to be able to be sufficiently apt at the skill of googling to find out
L552[11:14:39] <payonel> i have about 53 poms that my gradle setup cannot cache, and i cannot run the project from an ide for debugging with the huge list of mods it should debug with
L553[11:14:50] <payonel> but, compile works (has from the beginning, never had a compile issue)
L554[11:14:58] <payonel> so i can test it manually, that's what i've resigned to for now
L555[11:15:01] <Vexatos> yay?
L556[11:15:06] <gamax92> yay??
L557[11:15:50] <payonel> it's frustrating still, Michiyo also ran the setup and failed to get the same poms - so it would seem it's not "just my box"
L558[11:16:02] <payonel> it appears something has changed, and if you already have things cached then you're okay
L559[11:16:22] <payonel> i tried running the setup for every build.gradle change in the git history
L560[11:16:33] <payonel> but, that got messy with errors and "corrupted cache" situations
L561[11:17:32] <payonel> testing integration is all manual, such as testing your changes for bundled wire with ender io
L562[11:17:37] <payonel> would be nice to use the project
L563[11:17:47] <gamax92> ?
L564[11:18:06] <gamax92> So just link the jar into an instance with enderio then?
L565[11:18:22] <payonel> yeah, manually, for every mod there is integration with
L566[11:18:32] <payonel> yes, i could just test ender io
L567[11:18:38] <payonel> or just test "one of the mods"
L568[11:18:53] <Vexatos> I have no idea
L569[11:18:56] <payonel> but 1. debugging via the ide would be awesome and faster for troubleshooting
L570[11:18:56] <Vexatos> it works just fine for me
L571[11:19:02] <Vexatos> that's all I can say :P
L572[11:19:06] <payonel> because you already have the files cached
L573[11:19:10] <gamax92> You have idea though :P
L574[11:19:22] <Vexatos> payonel, IDEA does support external debugging
L575[11:19:23] <Vexatos> :P
L576[11:19:26] <payonel> gamax92: yeah, and it cannot start because the gradle cache is a pile of crap
L577[11:20:09] <gamax92> Vexatos: it's all external debugging anyway though, no?
L578[11:20:53] <gamax92> Run via gradle is gradlestart stuff
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L580[11:22:53] <Vexatos> gamax92, I mean this https://puu.sh/spMYJ/03266193b3.png
L581[11:23:13] <Vexatos> remote debug hooks
L582[11:23:21] <gamax92> ahh
L583[11:23:53] * vifino pets Lizzy
L584[11:24:26] <gamax92> Vexatos: println every line :P (best debugging)
L585[11:29:43] <payonel> Vexatos: also, "it works just fine for me" would be more appropriate if you were trying to download the cache files, and not proving that it works once you have them all
L586[11:30:16] <Vexatos> well I downloaded them like a year ago >_>
L587[11:30:34] <Vexatos> how can you compile though
L588[11:30:38] <Vexatos> if you don't have all the files
L589[11:31:42] <payonel> i assumed it was compiling against api jars
L590[11:31:55] <payonel> and the debug was looking for cached full mod jars that had failed
L591[11:32:06] <payonel> failed to download
L592[11:35:04] * Lizzy purrs loudly
L593[11:35:56] <Lizzy> Forecaster, oh, i've just seen the stream start notification from 9am this morning
L594[11:36:22] <Lizzy> why it's shown up on my main pc but didn't on my laptop or phone i don't fucking know
L595[11:36:47] <Forecaster> I dunno
L596[11:36:55] * Michiyo sighs
L597[11:37:01] <Forecaster> It shouldn't exist :|
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L599[11:39:10] <payonel> Vexatos: do you think the (get|drop|suck)ItemInventory* methods were meant for configuring the db upgrade?
L600[11:45:36] <Vexatos> no idea
L601[11:45:39] <Vexatos> need to ask sangar
L602[11:45:45] <Vexatos> I know what they are supposed to do
L603[11:45:48] <Vexatos> I could fix it
L604[11:46:02] <Vexatos> But
L605[11:46:02] <Vexatos> eh
L606[11:46:20] <Vexatos> I know what they are supposed to do but I don't know what they are supposed to do
L607[11:46:24] <Vexatos> If you know what I mean >_>
L608[11:47:02] <Michiyo> Clear as mud Vexatos.
L609[11:52:52] <Forecaster> if I reach episode 404 should I not make one?
L610[11:57:16] <Vexatos> 418 I'm a teapot.
L611[11:57:37] <Forecaster> I don't get that reference
L612[11:58:17] <Michiyo> %g rfc teapot
L613[11:58:18] <MichiBot> Michiyo: https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2324.txt - *RFC 2324*: "Masinter Informational [Page 1] RFC 2324 HTCPCP/1.0 1 April 1998 This .... 2.3. 2 418 I'm a teapot Any attempt to brew coffee with a teapot should result in the ..."
L614[11:58:23] <Michiyo> Forecaster,
L615[11:59:10] <Forecaster> ah
L616[12:00:29] <Skye> %p
L617[12:00:30] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Skye 0.62s
L618[12:02:54] <payonel> Vexatos: what i meant was -- it looked like the code was trying to edit the inventory of an item in the internal inventory. yes? if so, what even supports that besides the db upgrade?
L619[12:03:11] <Vexatos> some other thing does as well
L620[12:03:15] <payonel> or, potentially, could the item be (e.g.) another robot, and youre changing its inventory items :)
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L622[12:10:32] <Mettaton_Fab> i could also ask one of the IT teachers if i could get something from the I room.
L623[12:10:36] <Mettaton_Fab> *IT
L624[12:35:22] <Forecaster> the iRoom, latest product from Apple
L625[12:35:39] <Vexatos> Still waiting for the iPatch
L626[12:52:03] <Michiyo> It's still undergoing blind testing
L627[12:52:47] <Mettaton_Fab> they have AT PSUs, 486-class cpus and mobos, and also CD Drives.
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L631[13:25:04] <Michiyo> I feel like setting everything on fire...
L632[13:25:16] <Forecaster> ):
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L634[13:50:52] <Forecaster> wow
L635[13:51:11] <Forecaster> I asked someone else if they had any gpu's lying around a few days ago
L636[13:51:22] <Forecaster> today they got back with a couple of options
L637[13:52:09] <Forecaster> one was a relatively new card a friend of theirs had, who wanted 450 NOK for it
L638[13:52:29] <Forecaster> that's like $50 or 40 pounds
L639[13:52:54] <Forecaster> the other was an AGP card...
L640[14:00:14] <gamax92> Forecaster: ~50 is great for a new card
L641[14:00:32] <Forecaster> but it's for a server...
L642[14:00:35] <gamax92> and?
L643[14:01:00] <Forecaster> I'll use it for like 1% of the servers lifetime
L644[14:01:11] <Forecaster> and I want to pay as little as possible
L645[14:09:07] <Forecaster> and currently Lizzy's card is the cheapest option
L646[14:10:47] <gamax92> ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯
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L648[14:23:29] <NoSuchNick> so, I can't set the sorting of a buildcraft diamond pipe with oc cause the driver is just basic?
L649[14:25:01] <Forecaster> I don't know about basic, but if the component doesn't have the methods then no, you can't
L650[14:25:47] <NoSuchNick> ok, I'll try to implement that
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L654[14:48:12] <payonel> bbl
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L664[15:59:58] <부시 대통령 숨기기> guys which version of OC is safe for 1.7.10 modpack ?
L665[16:00:53] <Mimiru> One of the 1.7.10 builds.
L666[16:01:36] <부시 대통령 숨기기> hehe, thanks
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L675[16:52:56] <vifino> S3: Do you do any MOTD or ssh banner art/customization on your machines? As in, things like this http://pb.i0i0.me/p/Hf8QcwVM
L676[16:53:45] <vifino> do note that the ascii art is in rainbow colors
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L680[17:07:23] * Lizzy falls asleep on vifino
L681[17:07:57] * vifino pets Lizzy
L682[17:08:03] * Lizzy purrs
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L686[17:28:48] <Antheus> Merry Thanksgivingmas Eve-Eve-Eve
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L690[17:31:18] <MGR> alright!
L691[17:31:40] <MGR> my latest version of bagel.lib has set a new record for resisting cryptanalysis!
L692[17:31:52] <MGR> it passed the previous record of 30 minutes
L693[17:34:31] <Antheus> what even
L694[17:35:43] <MGR> Antheus, I'm devising a cryptographic algorithm for opencomputers, named bagel
L695[17:35:50] <MGR> the previous versions were exceedingly weak
L696[17:36:01] <MGR> 1.0 got taken down within 10 minutes
L697[17:36:10] <MGR> 1.1 got taken down within 30 minutes
L698[17:36:21] <MGR> 1.2 is still standing, although the person may have gone offline, idk
L699[17:36:27] <MGR> yeah he did
L700[17:40:53] <CompanionCube> what is 1.2
L701[17:44:29] <ade129> completely random question of the day: Does anyone remember ModLoaderMP
L702[17:45:25] <MGR> CompanionCube, what?
L703[17:45:30] <MGR> elaborate a little please
L704[17:45:42] <CompanionCube> what makes 1.2 not as crap as 1.0/1.1
L705[17:52:05] <MGR> CompanionCube, it stops treating all numbers as the same
L706[17:53:15] <MGR> Furthermore, I have a 1.3 planned for maximum security
L707[17:56:28] <MGR> CompanionCube, once it passes the initial test, you're welcome to verify or disprove its strength
L708[17:56:46] * CompanionCube is not good at cryptanalysis
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L710[18:04:14] <MGR> CompanionCube, if you want to try your hand at it, let me know
L711[18:04:21] <MGR> the more eyes I can get on the output, the better
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L713[18:24:52] <payonel> 부시 대통령 숨기기 we have a release version
L714[18:25:35] <payonel> 부시 대통령 숨기기 http://ci.cil.li/job/OpenComputers-1.6-MC1.7.10/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/build/libs/OpenComputers-MC1.7.10-1.6.0.9-universal.jar
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L717[18:45:52] <Mimiru> There are actual builds on Curse too
L718[18:56:18] <payonel> ah true
L719[18:56:21] <payonel> :/
L720[18:56:23] <payonel> thanks
L721[18:56:27] <Mimiru> :P
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L728[20:32:36] <CompanionCube> o.o
L729[20:32:49] * CompanionCube found a binary that segfaults...in the dynamic linker
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L733[21:41:27] <SpiritedDusty> that new forum looks nice
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L744[22:57:54] <Vexatos> o/
L745[23:08:31] <LordRyan> \o
L746[23:08:48] <LordRyan> Vexatos: i have FusionScript parsing to an AST and transpiling to Lua source
L747[23:08:50] <LordRyan> :>
L748[23:09:39] <Vexatos> -.-
L749[23:10:26] <LordRyan> ?
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L751[23:15:38] <LordRyan> kaythen.
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