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L32[02:54:53] <Mettaton_Fab> yo!
L33[02:58:13] <Forecaster> no!
L34[03:03:48] <Mettaton_Fab> boi!
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L38[03:36:58] <Skye> Morning
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L47[05:23:41] *** QuietFox is now known as Charlotte
L48[05:25:19] <Inari> Forecaster: The huffing paint jokes on CD vids remind me of when I had my hair dyed blue at one point and noone could resist making a "fell into colour bucket" joke :P
L49[05:25:40] <Forecaster> heh
L50[05:27:46] <Inari> Charlotte: ohi :P
L51[05:28:06] <Charlotte> hey Inari :3
L52[05:28:17] <Charlotte> bukket....what ever happened to that... it was nice
L53[05:28:29] <Forecaster> you mean bukkit
L54[05:28:59] <Mettaton_Fab> bukkit? wasnt that non-vanilla mc stuff?
L55[05:29:15] <Forecaster> it was an api for server-side plugins
L56[05:29:37] <Lizzy> it got DCMA'd
L57[05:29:41] <Charlotte> yeah
L58[05:30:05] <Charlotte> what how does a mod get DCMA'd ?
L59[05:30:20] <Charlotte> wait did they supply their own minecraft_server.jar ?
L60[05:30:32] <Forecaster> there's sponge now
L61[05:30:36] <Forecaster> I think
L62[05:30:44] <XDjackieXD> no the bukkit team mainly works on spigot now
L63[05:31:11] <XDjackieXD> Charlotte: yes they did. now they switched to a system like forge
L64[05:31:28] <Forecaster> I didn't say bukkit switched to sponge
L65[05:31:31] <Forecaster> but sponge is a thing
L66[05:31:36] <Lizzy> Charlotte, when the bukkit team (or some of them) got acquired by Mojang, one of the x-devs of bukkit filed the dcma because their work was now technically being used in a commercial product
L67[05:31:40] <Lizzy> or something
L68[05:31:44] <Charlotte> i looked into sponge a bit
L69[05:31:48] <Charlotte> it looks interesting
L70[05:31:54] <Charlotte> ahhhh
L71[05:31:57] <Charlotte> damnnn
L72[05:32:21] <Charlotte> i have to say, on that devs part, smart move
L73[05:32:24] <Inari> I had a chance to be part of the bukkit team but passed XD No clue I would have stuck long with it anyway though, I'm way too lazy
L74[05:32:36] <Charlotte> but for the community, was dickish
L75[05:32:50] <Charlotte> but forge became what it is today due to that gap imo
L76[05:33:13] <Inari> I miss perlstone sometimes :P
L77[05:33:24] * Inari ties some ribbons onto Lymee
L78[05:33:25] <Inari> er
L79[05:33:33] <Inari> Yeah,t ha tone
L80[05:33:35] <Charlotte> bukkit was also client side iirc....i still wish there was something like minetests hashing and storing of mods
L81[05:33:43] <XDjackieXD> bukkit was server side only
L82[05:33:44] <Charlotte> so servers can serve mods if the users dont have it
L83[05:33:53] <XDjackieXD> that was spoutcraft
L84[05:33:54] <Inari> I don't like minetest much
L85[05:33:57] <Charlotte> okay im misremembering
L86[05:33:59] <Kilobyte> that'd be a security hole
L87[05:34:00] <Inari> Sadly noone yet seemed to make a good MC replacement :P
L88[05:34:11] <Charlotte> minetest is awesome
L89[05:34:15] <Kilobyte> i wouldd NEVER want a server being able to push executable code to my machine
L90[05:34:30] <Charlotte> its not executable its interprated
L91[05:34:32] <Charlotte> its lua
L92[05:34:33] <Inari> Kilobyte: So you don't download files? :3
L93[05:34:52] <Charlotte> Inari: that'd be pulling
L94[05:35:09] <XDjackieXD> Inari: it's about untrusted executable files which get downloaded and executed for you without asking you first
L95[05:35:12] <Charlotte> but i guess Kilobyte disables all updates, can't have that pushing :p
L96[05:35:16] <Inari> Hm, Auto updaters?
L97[05:35:17] <Kilobyte> why would anyone write mods/etc in lua if they have the option not to :P
L98[05:35:17] <Lizzy> ermm, oops
L99[05:35:34] * Lizzy just casually dumped an sql database to the terminal
L100[05:35:37] <Charlotte> because lua is easier than java
L101[05:35:41] <Inari> Kilobyte: mods in lua would be kinda cool actaully, if the game was made for it
L102[05:35:42] <Charlotte> lol Lizzy
L103[05:35:49] <Kilobyte> Lizzy: at least you didn't dump it to irc
L104[05:35:54] <Charlotte> factorio, mods in lua
L105[05:35:57] <XDjackieXD> about mc replacements: the best one I could find so far is terasology
L106[05:36:10] <Inari> XDjackieXD: Yeah, but that runs terrible and is odd :D
L107[05:36:12] <Inari> At least last I tried
L108[05:36:16] <Charlotte> I played teraferma craft
L109[05:36:19] <Charlotte> that
L110[05:36:21] <Kilobyte> Charlotte: i have multiple problems with lua. 1. it's dynamically typed. 2. it's syntax is horrible
L111[05:36:25] <Charlotte> while not a replacement, was insane
L112[05:36:32] <Lizzy> Kilobyte, i'd probably fill up the socket since it's 33M of data :P
L113[05:36:33] <Charlotte> i have problems with java
L114[05:36:35] <Inari> Kilobyte: Then javascript
L115[05:36:35] <Inari> :£
L116[05:36:41] <Kilobyte> javascript is even worse
L117[05:36:46] <XDjackieXD> Rust \o/
L118[05:36:52] <Charlotte> its not like c/c++/php/js
L119[05:36:58] <Kilobyte> XDjackieXD: sure, get that to work with mc and i
L120[05:37:00] <Charlotte> the languages i know something of
L121[05:37:01] <Charlotte> or python
L122[05:37:02] <Kilobyte> 'll happily use it
L123[05:37:06] <Inari> Kilobyte: whats a good scripting language thats easy to dynamically reload then :|
L124[05:37:23] <XDjackieXD> Kilobyte: well you could use JNI and a C API :P
L125[05:37:28] <Kilobyte> c/c++/any other low level language :P
L126[05:37:32] <Charlotte> just emulate a cpu :p
L127[05:37:41] <Kilobyte> unloading a mod at that level is not too hard
L128[05:37:42] <Inari> Thats not easy to reload
L129[05:37:54] <Inari> In the first place you ahve to compile the crap
L130[05:37:54] <Inari> :P
L131[05:37:57] <Kilobyte> it is, if you design your system for it
L132[05:38:03] <Kilobyte> well of course
L133[05:38:07] <XDjackieXD> Inari: why a scripting language? scripting languages are really bad as soon as you want to do something with rendering or regular, fast updates of something
L134[05:38:13] <Kilobyte> ^
L135[05:38:20] <Inari> Cause you don't write rendering in scripting
L136[05:38:34] <Inari> Scripts are nice, easy to update
L137[05:38:35] <Charlotte> which then limits your mods.
L138[05:38:46] <Inari> Charlotte: so do the rendering in C++ :P
L139[05:38:47] <Charlotte> i do wish minecraft wasn't java.
L140[05:38:49] <XDjackieXD> Inari: do you want to have two different APIs and one just for rendering?
L141[05:39:01] <Charlotte> I wouldn't mind recompiling it for every system.
L142[05:39:02] <XDjackieXD> that's not really maintainable and annoying for mod devs
L143[05:39:08] <Inari> Eh
L144[05:39:15] <Inari> So what then? :P C++ modding?
L145[05:39:27] <Charlotte> give them a build bot :p
L146[05:39:32] <Inari> Thats another thing of course
L147[05:39:45] <Inari> scripting languages tend to run equally well everywehre
L148[05:39:52] <XDjackieXD> Charlotte: cross compiling isn't that hard (especially as mods wouldn't need any standard io stuff) and could be automated very nicely
L149[05:40:00] <Kilobyte> auto plugin = dlopen("plugins/myplugin.so", RTLD_LAZY); plugin_func func = dlsym(plugin, "get_plugin"); auto plugin = func(core);
L150[05:40:04] <Kilobyte> plugin loaded.
L151[05:40:12] <Kilobyte> dlclose(plugin);
L152[05:40:13] <Charlotte> yeah exacttly XDjackieXD
L153[05:40:16] <Kilobyte> plugin unloaded.
L154[05:40:20] <Inari> Kilobyte: Now, sandbox it
L155[05:40:25] <XDjackieXD> Inari: if you have a C based modding API you could use C, C++, Rust and many more languages to write mods
L156[05:40:28] <Kilobyte> why sandbox
L157[05:40:40] <Kilobyte> just don't run untrusted code :P
L158[05:40:42] <Inari> Kilobyte: Because I don't want to run nontrusted code?
L159[05:40:55] <Kilobyte> then don't run it :P
L160[05:41:02] <Inari> Kilobyte: Then i can't ever run anything!
L161[05:41:11] <Lizzy> ooh, xz has a nice progress indicator
L162[05:41:19] <Forecaster> xz?
L163[05:41:27] <Kilobyte> Forecaster: compression algo/tool
L164[05:41:29] <Lizzy> compression program/format
L165[05:41:30] <Lizzy> ^
L166[05:41:37] <Forecaster> ah
L167[05:41:40] <XDjackieXD> Also I'd just forbid usage of any standard io stuff (like direct file access and such). only allow API calls to your api (and libs that don't interact with anything outside the executeable)
L168[05:41:43] <Kilobyte> Inari: so you'd have to secure erase your hard disk!
L169[05:41:53] <Kilobyte> since you can't possibly trust your OS
L170[05:42:01] <Inari> Kilobyte: The only way to trust ab inary mod is by knowing its sourcecode, for most mods that would be too big to look through :P And then it would still need to be compiled by me too
L171[05:42:18] <Kilobyte> bbl, lecture over
L172[05:42:28] <XDjackieXD> Inari: look at minecraft win10 edition modding. it compiles the C# code of mods when starting MC therefore forcing mod authors to supply source code :P
L173[05:42:42] <Inari> I guess
L174[05:43:06] <Charlotte> wait
L175[05:43:13] <Charlotte> we can mod win10 mc now??
L176[05:43:27] <XDjackieXD> the other possibility is to supply a trusted build server which compiles all the mods and signs them with it's cert
L177[05:43:38] <XDjackieXD> Charlotte: they announced it at minecoin
L178[05:43:40] <Inari> Anyway, I don't really care, someone ust make a better MC pls
L179[05:43:50] <Charlotte> never heard of it XDjackieXD
L180[05:44:04] <Forecaster> minecon*
L181[05:44:10] <Charlotte> but i use windows 10, mac OSX and debian
L182[05:44:13] <Charlotte> again never heard of it
L183[05:44:20] <XDjackieXD> it's called "addon" and currently really limited in what it can do but whatever
L184[05:44:26] <Charlotte> only things im interested in are E3 and EB Expo
L185[05:44:35] <Charlotte> that sucks
L186[05:44:45] <XDjackieXD> they should do linux builds of MCPE/win10 edition again (the last one was the Pi edition :P)
L187[05:44:57] <Charlotte> OH my god my foot herts D:
L188[05:45:00] <Charlotte> hurts*
L189[05:45:08] <Charlotte> its numb damn it i cant stand up
L190[05:45:10] <Inari> Thats random
L191[05:45:15] <Lizzy> wtf... why has my vm lost it's ipv6 route
L192[05:45:24] <XDjackieXD> because it can.
L193[05:45:30] <Charlotte> yep
L194[05:45:41] <Charlotte> holy crap i need a crutch
L195[05:45:43] * Inari ties a ribbon on Temia's tail
L196[05:45:45] <XDjackieXD> Lizzy: ever used IPv6 on Online.net servers? it's the most random thing ever...
L197[05:45:51] <Charlotte> how else am i going to get coco pops
L198[05:46:05] <Lizzy> XDjackieXD, a server i'm moving away from uses online.net
L199[05:46:20] <Lizzy> i know how much of a PitA ipv6 is on it
L200[05:46:33] <Lizzy> to the point now where i haven't even bothered with it
L201[05:46:45] * XDjackieXD has an online.net server and I just managed to get IPv6 to work with arch.
L202[05:46:47] <Inari> Screw navigating roguelike dungeons *builds central stairs haft*
L203[05:46:59] <Lizzy> XDjackieXD, good luck, it'll break in about 2 months
L204[05:47:04] <XDjackieXD> (The server is cheap and I don't have a speady source of money yet so....)
L205[05:47:22] <Lizzy> even if you don't touch the ipv6 configuraiton, it'll still break
L206[05:47:32] <XDjackieXD> Lizzy: it broke before but I think this was the fault of the built-in DHCP client of networkd.
L207[05:47:50] <Inari> Remember kids, love with your heart, use your head for anything else!
L208[05:47:58] <XDjackieXD> I'm now using dhclient like they are suggesting on their website
L209[05:48:07] * Lymee sits on Inari's lap
L210[05:48:13] <Inari> Lymee: Ohi
L211[05:48:39] <Lizzy> i used the method they have on their website, when i originally set it up they were using dibbler but then they switched to dhclient. I've honestly given up on it now though and am moving off of that server anyway
L212[05:49:01] <XDjackieXD> what hoster are you moving it to?
L213[05:49:09] <Lizzy> OVH
L214[05:49:24] <XDjackieXD> ah ok. they are really good (but sadly pretty expensive)
L215[05:49:31] <Lizzy> yeah
L216[05:49:47] <Lizzy> but the new box is a fair bit more powerful than my old one
L217[05:50:40] <Lymee> Meow~
L218[05:50:48] * Lizzy pets Lymee
L219[05:50:52] <XDjackieXD> yes my current box at online is the cheapest one they have (dual core avoton atom, 4GB RAM 1TB HDD 2.5GBit/s Network with 200MBit/s guaranteed bandwith)
L220[05:51:45] * XDjackieXD has to go now. see you all later \o
L221[05:52:38] * Inari uses head massager on Lymee
L222[05:53:19] <Lymee> =w=
L223[05:55:37] <Lizzy> speaking of cats
L224[05:55:45] * Lizzy wonders when her vifino will wake up
L225[05:56:55] <Inari> vif is a cat now?
L226[06:00:35] <Lizzy> yes
L227[06:00:37] <Lizzy> afk
L228[06:01:15] <Charlotte> vifino ?
L229[06:01:19] <Inari> since when
L230[06:03:20] <Kilobyte> and i'm back
L231[06:03:36] <Inari> wb :p
L232[06:06:21] <Kilobyte> now for a rather relaxing cryptography lecture
L233[06:06:43] <Kilobyte> well, practice lecture (or w/e thats called in english) to be exact
L234[06:08:26] <Inari> Whats it called in german
L235[06:09:36] <Kilobyte> Übung
L236[06:10:13] <Kilobyte> in other words, we go through the assignments that have been worked on over the last week and present results
L237[06:11:02] <Inari> Ah
L238[06:11:06] <Inari> thes tuff you could do by mail
L239[06:11:30] <Kilobyte> generally that kind of stuff isn't done by mail here tho
L240[06:11:39] <Inari> Yeah but it could
L241[06:11:45] <Inari> But instaed we waste everyones time
L242[06:11:47] <Kilobyte> there is also some new content presented afaik
L243[06:12:20] <Inari> Noone wants to present and noone really caresa bout the presentation
L244[06:13:15] <Charlotte> ah cryptograpy is fun
L245[06:13:26] <Skye> Did you know that SIM cards run Java?
L246[06:13:29] <Charlotte> I tutored a lesson or two on it in python
L247[06:14:11] <Kilobyte> Skye: yes i did
L248[06:14:35] <Kilobyte> Charlotte: the cryptography stuff we have at uni where you actually implement cryptography is all C
L249[06:14:49] <Kilobyte> and has side channel attacks as primary content
L250[06:15:03] <Charlotte> side channel?
L251[06:15:17] <Charlotte> only side i know of is side chaining in audio
L252[06:15:48] <Kilobyte> example: a bad implementation of let's say RSA might leak private key info by taking a different amount depending on the key
L253[06:16:00] <Kilobyte> abusing that would be a side channel attack
L254[06:16:09] <Kilobyte> *taking different amount of time
L255[06:16:21] <Charlotte> ahh
L256[06:16:33] <Charlotte> yeah fair enough
L257[06:16:41] <Charlotte> that makes sense
L258[06:16:57] <Kilobyte> like, the memcmp() c function is side channel attack vulnerable
L259[06:17:31] <Kilobyte> and the entire point of that lecture "Implementing Cryptographic Algorithms" is to teach you mitigate them
L260[06:17:38] <Kilobyte> which is an art in itself
L261[06:18:13] <Kilobyte> and also why theres the rule #1 of cryptography: "Don't roll your own crypto"
L262[06:18:20] <Charlotte> cmp what's that? compare ?
L263[06:18:51] <Kilobyte> memcmp/strcmp are basically what == does to strings/byte arrays in high level languages
L264[06:19:17] <Kilobyte> not exactly as strcmp actually tells you which string is lexically bigger
L265[06:19:38] <Charlotte> so it's compare ?
L266[06:19:51] <Kilobyte> yeah
L267[06:20:07] <Skye> cmp means compare, IIRC.
L268[06:20:16] <Charlotte> memcmp is equal (a comparison) and strcmp is which is larger..okay
L269[06:20:22] <Inari> IIRC mean in IRC
L270[06:20:30] <Charlotte> eh i guessed cmp from ASM
L271[06:20:55] <Skye> If I recall correctly
L272[06:20:58] <Kilobyte> this current lecture is only about the theory behind cryptography though
L273[06:21:31] <Charlotte> ah okay
L274[06:21:40] <Charlotte> ah i want to go to uni someday
L275[06:21:48] <Charlotte> but not being an aussie citizen makes that harder.
L276[06:21:55] <Kilobyte> last weeks assignment was an attack on a basic substitution chiffre
L277[06:22:01] <Charlotte> its funny because I've taught at uni
L278[06:22:21] <Kilobyte> pretty trivial if you know how to write code
L279[06:23:25] <Kilobyte> hardest part was fighting the LaTeX compiler for the hand in document (i could use hand written but then the guy who reviews it would probably not be able to read a word)
L280[06:23:25] <Charlotte> getting into uni? I wish
L281[06:23:35] <Kilobyte> no, i mean the assignment
L282[06:23:45] <Charlotte> ah
L283[06:23:59] <Charlotte> I want to learn LaTeX
L284[06:24:01] <Kilobyte> i can't judge the getting into uni part for you, was rather easy for me
L285[06:24:20] <Kilobyte> i love and hate LaTeX at the same time.
L286[06:24:24] <Kilobyte> it's awesome when it works
L287[06:24:30] <Charlotte> yeah i failed high school and don't have a spare $30k AUD
L288[06:24:33] <Kilobyte> a pain when it doesn't, which is most of the time
L289[06:25:09] <Charlotte> LaTeX seems like something will do what you want as long as you don't abuse it
L290[06:25:27] <Inari> Well of course
L291[06:25:38] <Inari> if you rip the latex you screwed up
L292[06:26:08] <Charlotte> rip as in copy or rip as in remove?
L293[06:26:25] <Inari> as in tear
L294[06:26:37] <Kilobyte> Inari: not that latex
L295[06:26:48] <Charlotte> ...im confused
L296[06:27:05] <Charlotte> oh you on about the material.
L297[06:27:21] <Kilobyte> the material in a specific application i presume
L298[06:27:27] <Kilobyte> knowing Inari
L299[06:27:28] <Skye> Note, Inari is dirty minded.
L300[06:27:31] <Inari> ;3
L301[06:28:00] <Charlotte> Skye I know Lizzy and Inari are how I came to be here :p
L302[06:28:20] <Charlotte> mmm latex..
L303[06:29:01] <Charlotte> god damn it was following a good thread on 8chn but it 404'd before i could download it
L304[06:29:31] <Charlotte> eugh things need to go into an archive for longer storage when removed from the main site.
L305[06:32:32] <Skye> Charlotte: do you have a lot of HDDs to "cache" ecwrhthong
L306[06:32:37] <Skye> "everything
L307[06:32:54] <Charlotte> 250gb...so nope
L308[06:33:05] <Charlotte> i was going to get a 9tb NAS from my ex
L309[06:33:08] <Charlotte> that would have been nice
L310[06:35:07] <Charlotte> i wish i understood ripme.jar so i could rewrite it as a bash script.
L311[06:35:21] <Charlotte> timing out and giving up on first fail, sucks
L312[06:35:57] <Charlotte> why the question Skye?
L313[06:37:39] <Skye> Charlotte: well...its how I'd cope with bad Internet.
L314[06:37:55] <Charlotte> yeah if I had my other laptop, I'd have 2tb
L315[06:38:02] <Charlotte> which would have been fine.
L316[06:38:18] <Skye> I archive everything even with good Internet.
L317[06:38:30] <Charlotte> the issue is it's stuck in sydney at an uncooprative friend's house
L318[06:38:48] <Kilobyte> why is it even there
L319[06:39:01] <Charlotte> the pain is, the friend who would drive 1200km to give it to me, is up for it and ready to go
L320[06:39:13] <Charlotte> because i lived there
L321[06:39:22] <Charlotte> i spent a night at my friends when i was homeless
L322[06:39:34] <Charlotte> expected to comeback the day after
L323[06:39:53] <Charlotte> but then I met jamie, and stayed chatting with him all night
L324[06:40:11] <Charlotte> the next day I asked my friend if i could pick it up she said no
L325[06:40:16] <Charlotte> a month later she is still saying no
L326[06:40:26] <Charlotte> worst part is she has my guitar too.
L327[06:40:42] <Skye> O_o
L328[06:40:59] <Charlotte> $400 dollar guitar i was given as a gift from my ex.
L329[06:41:08] <Charlotte> also my only guitar
L330[06:41:58] <Charlotte> just frustrated I can't play it and can't play many games on a mac with a 2.3Ghz intel core 2 duo, 4gb ram. 256mb shared vram
L331[06:42:12] <Charlotte> bleh i was an idiot
L332[06:42:38] <Charlotte> can't even play factorio without lag due to vram issue
L333[06:44:35] <Skye> Emulate old computers and play old games. :p
L334[06:45:02] <Charlotte> Also Skye better internet barely exists here unless you're referring to my 7gb/40AUD per month on my phone
L335[06:45:35] <Charlotte> yeah im trying to make a DCPU-16 emulator atm, then reaching up to 32, not much change other than the instruction length :p
L336[06:45:45] <Charlotte> then i can make my own emus
L337[06:45:47] <Charlotte> :p
L338[06:46:08] <Charlotte> for old machines anyway speed wont be upto anything recent when it's written in javascript
L339[06:47:01] <Charlotte> https://github.com/foxsan48/DCPU-16/blob/master/DCPU-16.js
L340[06:47:49] <Charlotte> eugh.. IRC keeps timing out. yet minecraft download powers through, what is this, im going to cry :(
L341[06:47:49] <Skye> I'm thinking... Mini vMac
L342[06:48:30] <Charlotte> what's that?
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L344[06:50:09] <Mettaton_Fab> yay, soldered my amp together.
L345[06:52:06] <Charlotte> i just told my friend I'd pay them $100 to let my friend pick up my stuff tomorrow
L346[06:52:14] <Charlotte> I really want my laptop and guitar back
L347[06:52:46] <Charlotte> sony vaio E series...nice laptop 2gb vram, 8gb ram and i7 or i5 i forget, very nice laptop for free
L348[06:54:24] <Skye> Charlotte: mini vMac is an original macintosh emulator. It's free, and the maker of it has some old games uploaded.
L349[06:54:52] <Charlotte> ahh sweet
L350[06:56:58] <Skye> Rom is hard to find, and apple's download page is gone, but you can find stuff online.
L351[06:57:31] <Skye> But it's fun.
L352[06:58:04] <Charlotte> i could if loading a google search didnt take 5 minutes
L353[06:58:24] <Charlotte> i just offered my friend my guitar in exchange for her getting my laptop, with $200 as well.
L354[06:59:00] <Charlotte> but I'll look when the internet improves.
L355[07:04:40] <Skye> O_o
L356[07:05:10] <Charlotte> i really want my other laptop back
L357[07:09:57] <Charlotte> that laptop is nothing special i just cant afford another one
L358[07:11:45] <Charlotte> yay minecraft is nearly doneee
L359[07:11:46] <Charlotte> wooo
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L364[07:19:50] * Lizzy is back
L365[07:19:54] * Lizzy pokes vifino
L366[07:20:11] <Lizzy> he is a heavy sleeper
L367[07:20:54] <Charlotte> hey Lizzy :3
L368[07:20:57] <Lizzy> hai
L369[07:21:12] <Charlotte> eugh why cant everyone just use IRC
L370[07:21:16] * Lizzy hopes that vifino will get a semi-sane sleep schedule when they live together
L371[07:21:20] <Charlotte> facebook messenger keeps timing out bleh
L372[07:21:24] <Charlotte> how are you?
L373[07:21:49] <Lizzy> I'm good, just finished installing the 2 new TVs for our VC kit at work, yourself?
L374[07:21:54] <Charlotte> my sleeping schedule got worse moving in with my gf
L375[07:22:00] <Charlotte> i sleep when she is awake
L376[07:22:22] <Charlotte> because of her snoring, my drugs aren't heavy enough to get me through head down, snoring to deep sleep.
L377[07:22:27] <Charlotte> just cant break that barrier
L378[07:22:42] <Lizzy> well, i mean i'd probably sync up to vifino's schedule if i didn't have work to worry about
L379[07:23:13] <Charlotte> that said, other girlfriends, we'd be in sync
L380[07:23:20] <Forecaster> why can't everyone just use discord? :P
L381[07:23:26] <Lizzy> Forecaster, no
L382[07:23:28] <Lizzy> go away
L383[07:23:30] <Forecaster> whaat
L384[07:23:36] <Charlotte> discord suffers the same issues as fb..
L385[07:23:43] <Charlotte> terrible timeout issues
L386[07:24:02] <Forecaster> not really
L387[07:24:04] <Charlotte> also, too much overhead :p
L388[07:24:07] <Forecaster> not for me at least
L389[07:24:21] <Charlotte> yes really when you're on an internet connection like mine
L390[07:24:29] <Charlotte> :p
L391[07:24:36] <Charlotte> irc and email, bliss <3
L392[07:25:22] <Forecaster> irc is awful sometimes in it's own ways
L393[07:25:30] <Forecaster> nothing is perfect
L394[07:25:34] <Lizzy> i think it's just you
L395[07:25:48] <Inari> Subaru kyun
L396[07:25:53] <Charlotte> yeah ive never had an issue with irc
L397[07:26:11] <Charlotte> until I tried to start my own server, that was a load of hurdles the first time
L398[07:26:16] <Forecaster> that doesnt mean there arent issues...
L399[07:26:20] <Charlotte> but i guess i chose the wrong IRCd
L400[07:27:01] <Lizzy> Charlotte, what ircd did you use?
L401[07:27:09] <Charlotte> can you name an issue?
L402[07:27:15] <Forecaster> also I was just joking with "why can't everyone just use discord" in case that wasn't apparent
L403[07:27:16] <Charlotte> it was 6 years ago i dont remember
L404[07:27:21] <Lizzy> lol
L405[07:27:29] <Charlotte> but also 6 years ago i barely knew my way around unix systems
L406[07:27:44] <Lizzy> also grr, where the hell is Izaya. I need to talk to him before i can migrate his vm over
L407[07:27:49] <Charlotte> used gui for everything :p
L408[07:28:16] <Charlotte> now i prefer terminal unless you know, its graphics related, like drawing or 3d modeling
L409[07:28:17] <Charlotte> :p
L410[07:28:46] <Charlotte> unfortunatly compiling lynx and other tux/cli browsers requires xcode..
L411[07:28:59] <Kilobyte> i'd prefer a well made CLI over a well made GUI any time
L412[07:29:41] <Kilobyte> Charlotte: if you are looking for a good ircd, i've made good experience with inspircd :P
L413[07:29:50] <Lizzy> ^
L414[07:30:04] <Lizzy> me and Katie can also help with Inspircd since we use it on our IRC net
L415[07:30:58] <Kilobyte> that reminds me... i need to update my znc password in my client config for that network
L416[07:33:11] <Charlotte> yeah i'd use that too Kilobyte after doing a lil research
L417[07:35:09] <Charlotte> ty Kilobyte
L418[07:35:28] <Kilobyte> i don't know what for, but np :P
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L420[07:36:32] <Charlotte> recommending an IRCD
L421[07:36:50] <Charlotte> i could have sworn i took my finger off shift..
L422[07:36:56] <Lizzy> lol
L423[07:38:45] <Charlotte> eugh im so tired but i just woke up
L424[07:42:02] <Lizzy> right, lets go see if this move of the forums will work flawlessly
L425[07:42:08] <Izaya> Lizzy: studying for exams
L426[07:42:15] <Izaya> whatd'ya need?
L427[07:42:42] <Lizzy> Izaya, ah, would you mind creating me a user on the vps i host for you so i can get it back on the internet once i move it over?
L428[07:43:41] <Charlotte> anyone know how to manually install forge on a mac?
L429[07:43:48] <Lizzy> nope
L430[07:44:01] <Charlotte> Ive made a new profile in the mc launcher but i dont know where to find it in minecraft directory.
L431[07:44:05] <Charlotte> okay
L432[07:44:38] <Charlotte> does anyone know how to manually install forge? or where to find a profile in the minecraft directory?
L433[07:46:18] <Charlotte> .minecraft makes no sense any more since the new layout
L434[07:46:55] <Charlotte> modifying the jar was a lot easier than this crap
L435[07:47:08] <Izaya> Charlotte: just use MultiMC
L436[07:47:26] <Charlotte> i cant afford to download another thing
L437[07:47:27] <Izaya> unless you need a custom forge version I guess
L438[07:47:45] <Charlotte> i have 1.10.2 and forge for it
L439[07:47:49] <Charlotte> i just need to install it
L440[07:48:07] <Charlotte> but the installer doesn't work so i got the universial
L441[07:49:02] <Izaya> Lizzy: done
L442[07:49:14] <Charlotte> hitting open game dir only opens .minecraft
L443[07:49:18] <Charlotte> which isnt useful
L444[07:49:20] <Lizzy> Izaya, cool, mind pm'ing me the details?
L445[07:49:26] <Charlotte> I was hoping it'd open the profile.
L446[07:49:44] <Izaya> static IP is indeed handled by dhcpcd by the way
L447[07:50:07] <Lizzy> huh
L448[07:50:12] <Charlotte> oh...
L449[07:50:14] <Lizzy> i thought it'd only do dhcp stuff
L450[07:50:25] * Lizzy shrugs
L451[07:50:26] <Izaya> nah you can have a fallback profile
L452[07:50:30] <Lizzy> ah
L453[07:50:33] <Izaya> then tell it not to do the non-fallback
L454[07:50:43] <Izaya> it worked, unlike all the systemd networking tools
L455[07:50:44] <Charlotte> so despite the launcher calling them profiles, they are called versions.
L456[07:50:48] <Katie> Charlotte, There isn't a "directory"
L457[07:50:50] <Lizzy> i'll move it over some time this afternoon
L458[07:50:55] <Charlotte> Katie: there is
L459[07:51:02] <Charlotte> .minecraft on windows and linux
L460[07:51:03] <Izaya> what v4 address am I getting?
L461[07:51:08] <Charlotte> or bleh bleh blah on mac
L462[07:51:11] <Lizzy> the one you requested
L463[07:51:13] <Katie> Yes... I'm aware of that
L464[07:51:13] <Charlotte> but there is a directory
L465[07:51:19] <Izaya> oh right 255
L466[07:51:23] <Izaya> 225*
L467[07:51:23] <Charlotte> so why did you say it doesn't exist?
L468[07:51:24] <Katie> but there arn't individual profile directories
L469[07:51:34] <Katie> profiles are just entires in the .json
L470[07:51:39] <Lizzy> yeah, I can also give you a v6 if you want, but i'll do the migration first
L471[07:51:41] <Charlotte> there are, verisons/<profiles>
L472[07:51:55] <Charlotte> the things you make in the "profile manager" come up under versions
L473[07:51:57] <Izaya> poke me when you do it so I can update my DNS
L474[07:52:24] <Lizzy> Izaya, will do, will also probably do it in about 5-6 hours
L475[07:52:29] <Lizzy> as that's when i get home
L476[07:52:43] <Izaya> so about when I get up to get ready to have an exam
L477[07:52:45] <Izaya> wonderful
L478[07:52:58] <Charlotte> wait Katie...which json?
L479[07:56:46] <Izaya> the one with a chainsaw
L480[07:58:55] <20kdc> Izaya: But that's *all* of them.
L481[08:01:08] <Katie> The only thing created in the versions directory when you install forge is a json versions\1.10.2-forge1.10.2-12.18.2.2116\1.10.2-forge1.10.2-12.18.2.2116.json
L482[08:01:30] <Katie> the libraries go into libraries, not into the versions directory
L483[08:02:54] <Charlotte> can you show me where the lib goes? just the path under $minecraft will do
L484[08:03:02] <Katie> theres a fuck ton of them.
L485[08:03:12] <Charlotte> the installer doesn't work so i'm having to do it manually
L486[08:03:24] <Charlotte> apprently you just stick forge*-universal.jar in there
L487[08:03:44] <Katie> Except universal doesn't ship the libs... so not sure what good that'll do
L488[08:03:49] <Charlotte> but im not sure where or what to add to the json
L489[08:04:00] <Charlotte> what...the wiki says it does
L490[08:04:35] <Charlotte> src: http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Mods/Installing_OptiForge/Manual_Install/Modify_Existing
L491[08:06:13] <Katie> crack open the universal jar, tell me if you can find the scala lib, or jline...
L492[08:06:54] <Charlotte> so the wiki is wrong...how the heck do i get the libs if the download via the installer doesnt work
L493[08:09:20] <Charlotte> seems to have libs...but i dont know what they look like in java
L494[08:10:09] <Katie> http://pastebin.com/raw/9QS7xVBW that's your list of libs that it needs/wants and they go in libraries replace the '.'s with '/'s so "com.typesafe.akka:akka-actor_2.11:2.3.3" will go to libraries/com/typesafe/akka/akka-actor_2.11/2.3.3/akka-actor_2.11-2.3.3.jar
L495[08:12:32] <Charlotte> bleh dns keeps timing out
L496[08:13:51] <Katie> The best part is even after you manually do all of that, the launcher is STILL going to download stuff like jline, since there is no maven entries for stuff in the json
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L498[08:14:34] <Katie> jline goes in libraries/jline/2.13/jline-2.13.jar
L499[08:14:38] <Katie> Anyway I've gotta get ready for work
L500[08:14:42] <Katie> I'm running behind
L501[08:17:34] <Charlotte> why does universal exist if it's useless for installing fml ?
L502[08:17:50] <Charlotte> or why would it exist, i guess is a better question
L503[08:18:28] <Lizzy> :/ yay, i think the migration of the forums is going to be /fun/
L504[08:18:39] <Katie> Lizzy, sup?
L505[08:19:39] <Katie> Charlotte, because forge universal IS forge...
L506[08:20:02] <Katie> the installer just sets up the jsons to launch with the class tweaker, and grabs most of the libs
L507[08:20:06] <Charlotte> but if that is forge...why doesn't it work standalone? and why does the wiki suggest using that alone ?
L508[08:20:38] <Charlotte> n=minecraftforge; v=9.10.0.800; d="$HOME/.minecraft/libraries/net/$n/$n/$v"
L509[08:20:38] <Charlotte> mkdir -p "$d" && wget -cO "$d/$n-$v.jar" "http://files.$n.net/$n/$n-universal-1.6.2-$v.jar"
L510[08:20:43] <Lizzy> Katie, https://www.theender.net/shx/orlin/ad35-41.txt when trying to go to the forums on the new host. only difference is php versions
L511[08:20:49] <Charlotte> example from above
L512[08:20:55] <Lizzy> old was php5, new was php7
L513[08:20:56] <Charlotte> says just to download it into libs
L514[08:21:10] <Lizzy> s/w was/w is/
L515[08:21:10] <MichiBot> <Lizzy> old was php5, new is php7
L516[08:21:31] <Katie> Lizzy, what version of IPB is that...?
L517[08:22:02] <Lizzy> 3.4.6
L518[08:22:16] <Lizzy> Katie, ^
L519[08:22:25] <Katie> one second
L520[08:22:34] <Katie> shit... no scp client here yet
L521[08:22:35] <Katie> umm
L522[08:22:55] <Katie> I'll do it from my server then lol
L523[08:23:47] <Katie> Lizzy, what's line 382 of initdata.php?
L524[08:24:09] <Katie> cause mine is a blank line.. with @set_magic_quotes_runtime(0); on 383
L525[08:25:09] <Lizzy> @set_magic_quotes_runtime(0);
L526[08:25:17] <Katie> That's.. odd
L527[08:25:20] <Katie> Oh wait what
L528[08:25:24] * Katie slaps her forums
L529[08:25:24] * SlenderBot2 laughs
L530[08:25:32] <Katie> WHY ARE YOU RUNNING PHP5 STILL?!
L531[08:25:35] <XDjackieXD> I bet PHP calls it "dropping legacy features" :P
L532[08:25:39] <Katie> THis host has php7 installed
L533[08:25:58] <Lizzy> k, so looks like migrating the forums is going to be tricky
L534[08:26:09] <Charlotte> okay now i have `libraries/net/minecraftforge/minecraftforge/12.18.2.2116/minecraftforge-universal-1.10.2-12.18.2.2116.jar` as instructed by the link above
L535[08:26:19] <Charlotte> now i just need to find out how to add it to the json and im done
L536[08:26:26] <Katie> Lizzy, try commenting out that line?
L537[08:26:36] <Katie> ipb3 doesn
L538[08:26:44] <Charlotte> nvm misread it...$n-$v.jar.
L539[08:26:44] <Katie> 't look very php7 compatible
L540[08:27:28] <Katie> and I can't read the thread with tips for it cause my license is expired
L541[08:27:55] <Lizzy> now just 2016/10/31 13:27:13 [error] 7158#7158: *34 FastCGI sent in stderr: "PHP message: PHP Parse error: Invalid numeric literal in /var/www/oc.cil.li/httpdocs/admin/sources/base/core.php on line 752" while reading response header from upstream, client: 86.188.214.234, server: ocft.theender.net, request: "GET / HTTP/1.1", upstream: "fastcgi://unix:/run/php/php7.0-fpm.sock:", host: "ocft.theender.net"
L542[08:27:58] <Katie> Lizzy, it IS possible to modify it to a functional state
L543[08:28:55] <Katie> 'Invalid numeric literal' o_O
L544[08:28:57] <Katie> but...
L545[08:28:58] <Katie> wat
L546[08:28:58] <XDjackieXD> shouldn't you be able to upgrade to IPB4?
L547[08:29:01] * Lizzy shrugs
L548[08:29:15] <Charlotte> hmm this doesn't tell you how to modify the json to add forge...
L549[08:29:16] <Charlotte> bleh
L550[08:29:24] <XDjackieXD> "PHP 5.6+" is the official statement from invisionpower :P
L551[08:29:25] <Lizzy> XDjackieXD, technically yes but one of the other ops of this channel is the one who has the license
L552[08:29:27] <Katie> XDjackieXD, you either have to get a nulled version, or pay for another license
L553[08:29:40] <Katie> since licnese by default only cover 6 months of updates
L554[08:29:43] <Forecaster> Charlotte: can't you just run the installer?
L555[08:29:51] <Charlotte> no it times out Forecaster
L556[08:29:55] <Forecaster> ah
L557[08:30:02] <XDjackieXD> this is the reason I hate stuff that needs a license and doesn't include free updates with a liecnse >_>
L558[08:30:18] <Charlotte> can someone just upload their forge .json
L559[08:30:26] <Katie> I did
L560[08:30:35] <Katie> the json I linked you to was forge's json
L561[08:30:37] <XDjackieXD> PHP7 is recommended for IPB4...
L562[08:30:41] <Charlotte> oh
L563[08:30:46] <Katie> yes, cause IPB4 supports 7
L564[08:30:46] <Charlotte> yeah it keeps timing out...
L565[08:30:48] <Charlotte> i;; try again
L566[08:30:49] <XDjackieXD> and IPB3 doesn't have PHP >5 support
L567[08:31:08] <XDjackieXD> (upgrade costs 25$ as far as I can tell)
L568[08:31:33] <Lizzy> XDjackieXD, except as i said, the guy who holds the license is MiA
L569[08:31:40] <Charlotte> ahh i see an issue... net.minecraftforge.fml.common.launcher.FMLTweaker
L570[08:31:50] <Charlotte> because that doesn't exist as far as i know.
L571[08:32:26] <XDjackieXD> as a quick fix couldn't you just run the forum on php5?
L572[08:32:35] <Katie> shit.. I'm late
L573[08:32:56] <Lizzy> XDjackieXD, maybe if ubuntu 16.04 still has it in it's repos
L574[08:33:05] <Lizzy> i'ma go get food, back soon
L575[08:33:17] <XDjackieXD> I think it should have it in the repo
L576[08:35:32] <Charlotte> are profiles refered to by something or does the launcher scan minecraft/versions on each launch?
L577[08:35:38] <Charlotte> index anywhere*
L578[08:36:37] <Charlotte> oh duh launcher profiles...
L579[08:40:46] <Charlotte> hmm despite urls being given in json, it doesnt download them
L580[08:40:52] <Charlotte> yay manual downloat time
L581[08:41:09] <Charlotte> s/at/ad/
L582[08:41:09] <MichiBot> <Charlotte> yay manual download time
L583[08:45:08] <Charlotte> ty Katie
L584[08:45:35] <Charlotte> just realised that json is all i need as urls and local locations are given
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L586[08:51:01] <Michiyo> Lizzy, sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ondrej/php sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install php5.6
L587[08:51:24] <Lizzy> does that also provide php5-fpm?
L588[08:51:24] <Michiyo> and other 5.6 modules as well, but you get the gist
L589[08:51:39] <Lizzy> ok
L590[08:52:07] <Michiyo> I think you'd have to do php5.6-fpm
L591[08:52:11] <Charlotte> bleh nvm...
L592[08:52:15] <Charlotte> eugh doesnt work
L593[08:52:51] <Michiyo> For what it's worth.... the system works really well... when you're not using sub 1985 levels of internet.
L594[08:53:31] <Charlotte> how the heck does this work...
L595[08:54:05] <Charlotte> http://files.minecraftforge.net/maven/net.minecraftforge:forge:1.10.2-12.18.2.2116 is incorrect as is net/minecraftforge/forge/1.10.2-12.18.2.2116.jar
L596[08:54:11] <Michiyo> Smoke, Mirrors, and hand wavery
L597[08:54:40] <Charlotte> replacing the . after forge just cant be correct...it'd make no sense
L598[08:55:00] <Forecaster> wibbly wobbly
L599[08:55:13] <Charlotte> i dont understand why the json gives urls if the mc launcher doesn't use them, its pointless to put the info in there
L600[08:55:24] <Charlotte> and if they dont work, again it's pointless
L601[08:55:34] <Michiyo> http://files.minecraftforge.net/maven/net/minecraftforge/forge/1.10.2-12.18.2.2116/forge-1.10.2-12.18.2.2116-universal.jar
L602[08:56:50] <Charlotte> i already have that but how does the url given in the json resolve to that?
L603[08:57:50] <Michiyo> Code... finds a way
L604[08:58:15] <Charlotte> i put it in net/minecraftforge/forge/1.10.2-12.18.2.2116.jar under libs
L605[08:58:24] <Charlotte> as thats what the json seems to suggest
L606[08:58:56] <Charlotte> i need to find out how that code workds to manually download the rest of the libs
L607[08:59:20] <Charlotte> if its just the last two dirs with - between them and -universal on the end, then im all good
L608[09:00:28] <Charlotte> well that didnt seem to work for this http://files.minecraftforge.net/maven/jline/jline/2.13/jline-2.13-universal.jar
L609[09:02:45] <Lizzy> right, lets see if Ir7_o will get the pm i sent him
L610[09:05:35] <Charlotte> multiMC is seeming to work, thank the lawd
L611[09:05:52] <Charlotte> logs will hopefully tell me download locations too if i ever get stuck again
L612[09:05:55] <Lizzy> s/aw/ew
L613[09:05:55] <MichiBot> <Charlotte> multiMC is seeming to work, thank the lewd
L614[09:06:08] <Charlotte> lol Lizzy
L615[09:06:27] <Lizzy> .stats
L616[09:06:27] <SlenderBot2> We have channel stats provided by Caitlyn \o/ https://oclogs.pc-logix.com/stats.html, seriously :)
L617[09:06:59] <Michiyo> Well... why would jline be -universal?
L618[09:07:03] <Charlotte> i just dont understand why the urls don't directly/easily resolve to a download url
L619[09:07:08] <Charlotte> i dont know java at all
L620[09:07:09] <Michiyo> http://files.minecraftforge.net/maven/jline/jline/2.13/jline-2.13.jar works fine :p
L621[09:07:23] <20kdc> "thank the lewd"? Is lewdness now a deity or something?
L622[09:07:23] <Charlotte> why is forge universal?
L623[09:07:37] <Charlotte> yes lewd is a deity
L624[09:07:38] <Charlotte> :p
L625[09:08:06] <Michiyo> BEcause "Universal" means it works on client and server... it's from back in the early fml days
L626[09:08:08] <20kdc> I petition to rename #oc to #lewd.
L627[09:08:14] <Charlotte> lol
L628[09:08:19] <Charlotte> ah
L629[09:08:23] <Charlotte> okay
L630[09:08:29] <Forecaster> you can't "rename" channels :P
L631[09:08:29] <Michiyo> You'll still find lots of mods doing it too
L632[09:08:36] <Forecaster> everyone would have to move (again)
L633[09:08:39] <Charlotte> but i dont know what jline is
L634[09:08:45] <Charlotte> so it might run server side
L635[09:08:50] <Michiyo> because before you had to have client mods, and server mods... and gods help you if you mixed them
L636[09:08:53] <Charlotte> i wouldn't know
L637[09:09:04] <20kdc> Forecaster: And #oc would be left with those who don't appreciate the lewd. I see no downside.
L638[09:09:04] <Charlotte> yeah i remember
L639[09:09:08] <Michiyo> jline is a terminal thing.. it works for both, but jline isn't made by modders...
L640[09:09:14] <Michiyo> it's a generic java lib
L641[09:09:25] <Michiyo> So they don't use our naming conventions
L642[09:09:38] <Charlotte> if its just a terminal thing...why isn't it universal?
L643[09:09:43] <Michiyo> ._.
L644[09:09:47] <Michiyo> Because it's not mad FOR MC..
L645[09:09:55] <Michiyo> it's just.... a lib you can use in java
L646[09:09:57] <Michiyo> made*
L647[09:10:09] <Charlotte> oh
L648[09:10:13] <Charlotte> okay
L649[09:10:19] <Charlotte> i misunderstood the first time you said that
L650[09:10:21] <Michiyo> the only reason it's on forge's maven is so that they're not using someone elses bandwidth,
L651[09:10:22] <20kdc> "JLine, I know you're mad for MC, but you do realize the political implications of what you speak, surely?"
L652[09:10:28] <Charlotte> ahhhh
L653[09:10:33] <Charlotte> that makes a lot of sense.
L654[09:10:34] <Michiyo> and they can keep it up if the original goes poof
L655[09:10:38] <Charlotte> yep yep
L656[09:10:48] <Charlotte> now one more question
L657[09:11:06] <Charlotte> if forge is universal...why is that not reflected in the naming in the json
L658[09:11:18] <Michiyo> Because Lex.Fucking.Manos :P
L659[09:11:19] <Michiyo> IDFK
L660[09:11:25] <Michiyo> "Because"
L661[09:11:29] <Michiyo> :P
L662[09:11:35] <Charlotte> or is it MC wide accepted that forge is universal so launchers add universal to it?
L663[09:11:47] <Forecaster> the downloads say universal
L664[09:11:54] * Forecaster shrugs
L665[09:11:54] <Charlotte> as that sounds rather plausable
L666[09:11:57] <Charlotte> not in the json.
L667[09:12:12] <Charlotte> meaning who ever makes the launcher has to discover that for themselves.
L668[09:12:36] <Charlotte> widely accepted fact of fml modding, sounds likely
L669[09:12:40] <Forecaster> probably how it was before there were universal files
L670[09:13:32] <Michiyo> The fun thing is Forge changes maven locations so damn much I had to manually grab the forge universal for AMP/MCMA
L671[09:14:09] <Charlotte> amp/mcma?
L672[09:14:09] <Michiyo> Oh man... thanks FitBit... I didn't think I'd slept for shit, and you just confirmed it
L673[09:14:14] <Charlotte> god why would they change them...\
L674[09:14:21] <Michiyo> Server control panels
L675[09:14:33] <Michiyo> 'Cause Lex.Fucking.Manos. :P
L676[09:15:16] <Michiyo> 15 minutes... and I've had the same number call and hang up 3 times
L677[09:17:43] <Michiyo> %seen Achai
L678[09:17:43] <MichiBot> Michiyo: Achai was last seen 13d 13h 13m 55s ago.
L679[09:17:43] <Forecaster> to keep you on your toes!
L680[09:17:49] <Michiyo> ._.
L681[09:18:19] <Michiyo> too bad I didn't do that 42 seconds sooner
L682[09:21:25] <20kdc> The answer to the ultimate question of life, the universe, and... uh, what was the last word again?
L683[09:21:45] <Charlotte> what is lex.fuckung manos?
L684[09:22:54] <20kdc> Charlotte: A rather mean and rude way to say "LexManos".
L685[09:23:20] <Charlotte> what is LexManos?
L686[09:23:35] <Forecaster> who*
L687[09:24:32] <Charlotte> god WHY multimc launch vanilla 1.10.2 to download libs, copy to 1.10.2-fml-nomods install forge using MultiMC interface, launch offline mode "libs missing"
L688[09:24:51] <Charlotte> i just copied (using the interface) a current and working version of 1.10.2
L689[09:24:58] <Charlotte> why does it need to redownload libs!?
L690[09:25:13] <20kdc> maybe Forge wants more libs?
L691[09:25:35] <Charlotte> the forge install proc via multiMC should have dealt with that
L692[09:25:39] <Charlotte> it used to at least..
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L694[09:30:02] <Charlotte> ah well now i have fml-nomods profile so...I dont need to worry about this again
L695[09:30:29] <Charlotte> thanks for the help Michiyo and Katie
L696[09:31:13] <Charlotte> sorry to be a pain.
L697[09:31:45] <Charlotte> i hope the vanilla launcher get an update, like you know, downloading missing libs from json urls.
L698[09:33:55] ⇦ Quits: vifino (~vifino@tty.sh) (Quit: Who turned this off?! D:<)
L699[09:34:08] <Lizzy> :O
L700[09:34:10] * Lizzy cries
L701[09:34:24] <Charlotte> aws
L702[09:37:19] <Michiyo> Michiyo.equals(Katie) :P
L703[09:37:56] <Michiyo> LexManos is the lead dev of Forge, and a douche.
L704[09:39:21] * Lizzy sighs
L705[09:40:09] <Forecaster> oo, to get a boost from neutron stars in E:D you need a fuel scoop
L706[09:40:18] <Lizzy> cool
L707[09:40:44] <Forecaster> that explains why nothing happened for me
L708[09:41:42] <Forecaster> also it's like I thought, the fighter hangars are limited to specific ships
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L710[09:42:10] <Charlotte> ah that sucks Michiyo. also Michiyo.equals(Katie) ...what lanaguage did you derive that from?
L711[09:42:33] <Lizzy> :O
L712[09:42:35] <Forecaster> could be java
L713[09:42:38] <Forecaster> :P
L714[09:42:39] <Charlotte> also got my first error on OC before i even did anything i dunno if its github issue worthy though
L715[09:42:44] * Lizzy grabs onifiv and snuggles him all over
L716[09:43:04] <Michiyo> .equals() would be Java
L717[09:43:09] <Forecaster> Charlotte: what's the error?
L718[09:43:17] <Forecaster> it's certainly irc worthy
L719[09:43:18] <Forecaster> :P
L720[09:43:22] <Michiyo> ^
L721[09:43:38] * Lizzy prods onifiv
L722[09:43:39] <Charlotte> errors running class transformer | latest.log http://termbin.com/kv19
L723[09:43:48] <Forecaster> oh, that's known
L724[09:43:58] <Charlotte> ah
L725[09:44:10] <Charlotte> what is a class transformer? java thing?
L726[09:44:30] <Forecaster> yes
L727[09:44:31] <Michiyo> yeah, basically it takes a compiled class, makes edits, and returns it
L728[09:44:44] <Michiyo> it's how you can inject your own code into stuff you don't own
L729[09:44:49] <Charlotte> you can edit compiled classes....sweet.
L730[09:45:00] <Charlotte> wait...so techincally mods could all just mess with each other?
L731[09:45:03] * Lizzy sighs
L732[09:45:12] <Michiyo> yes
L733[09:45:24] * Lizzy wants her onifiv/vifino
L734[09:45:26] <Michiyo> GregTech was known to cause LOTS of issues with that too :P
L735[09:45:29] <Charlotte> ah
L736[09:45:33] <Charlotte> yeah that, I know of
L737[09:45:44] <Charlotte> i made my own mod pack with SKLauncher
L738[09:45:56] <Charlotte> that was a lesson learnt quickly but the hard way
L739[09:46:02] <Charlotte> as i dont know java, i cant fix it
L740[09:46:17] <Charlotte> ex boyfriend did some crap and fixed it though
L741[09:47:31] * Michiyo sighs
L742[09:47:37] <Michiyo> I have no idea how to make this multiblock work
L743[09:47:51] <Michiyo> the code I DO have "works" but poorly and not really the way I wanted it done
L744[09:48:02] <onifiv> well then, my primary server is toast.
L745[09:48:08] <Michiyo> O_O ??
L746[09:48:26] <onifiv> FS is fucked beyond repair.
L747[09:48:32] <Lizzy> :/
L748[09:48:51] <Charlotte> that sucks onifiv
L749[09:48:53] <Lizzy> that's not good
L750[09:49:02] <Michiyo> "Rain is in the forecast tomorrow for Mexico City. Stay dry!" B.. but I'm not in Mexico City... The server is in Canada, and I'm in Arkansas... neither of these are Mexico
L751[09:49:20] <Lizzy> lol
L752[09:49:47] <Charlotte> lol
L753[09:49:53] <onifiv> I'm basically boned because some of the things on that server have no backup.
L754[09:49:55] <Charlotte> to trump, its mexico
L755[09:50:04] <Charlotte> eek
L756[09:50:16] <onifiv> And the things that do are old, anyways.
L757[09:50:40] <Michiyo> And google thinks I'm in Kansas.... WAT
L758[09:50:51] <onifiv> I have not made a backup for at least 111 days.
L759[09:50:55] <Michiyo> :
L760[09:50:58] <Charlotte> lol Michiyo
L761[09:50:58] <Michiyo> :\*
L762[09:51:07] <onifiv> So yay, that's lost.
L763[09:51:20] <Forecaster> ):
L764[09:51:21] <onifiv> Might as well quit everything.
L765[09:51:21] * Lizzy cuddles onifiv
L766[09:51:49] <Forecaster> that would happen if my server died too
L767[09:52:28] <Michiyo> Same here... my softraid isn't supported by ESXi.. so I have 0 backups
L768[09:52:46] <Forecaster> yay we're all irresponsible! :D
L769[09:52:50] <Charlotte> eh i felt like quitting everything a few days ago when i couldn't understand part of nodeschools nodeJS lessons and before that DCPU documentation
L770[09:52:53] <Charlotte> lol Forecaster
L771[09:52:58] <Michiyo> \o/
L772[09:53:08] <onifiv> I seriously have no idea what to do anymore. Pretty much every site I have went offline, the VM booting doesn't even get to a point of loading linux so it's fucked.
L773[09:53:10] <Charlotte> I lost 3 years worth of photos when i sent a laptop for repair
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L775[09:53:48] <Charlotte> i was using the laptop 2 minutes before i handed it over, they called my step dad saying the hdd didnt work
L776[09:53:51] <Lizzy> onifiv, can you not mount the disk in another vm / live environment and see if you can salvage anything from it?
L777[09:53:52] <Charlotte> so they replaced it
L778[09:54:05] <Charlotte> without returning the old one. so i lost a lot of crap and cried
L779[09:54:12] <Forecaster> :/
L780[09:54:13] <onifiv> Lizzy: i mounted it on the host, not even the partition table survived.
L781[09:54:19] <Michiyo> Charlotte, sounds like Apple.. :P
L782[09:54:19] <Lizzy> :/
L783[09:54:23] <Charlotte> 3 years of holiday photos plus my last trip to england
L784[09:54:28] <Charlotte> it was toshiba Michiyo
L785[09:54:49] <Lizzy> onifiv, i wish i could help
L786[09:54:51] <LKM003> Hello folks
L787[09:54:54] <Michiyo> Charlotte, I know lots of people I worked with would instantly toss the drive and put a new one in no matter what the issue was
L788[09:54:55] <Forecaster> hi
L789[09:55:01] <Charlotte> i really dislike apple devices including this one, I only have it and am using it due to not having my vaio
L790[09:55:03] <Charlotte> wow
L791[09:55:03] <Michiyo> (I worked Apple repair depo for 2 years)
L792[09:55:12] <Charlotte> Michiyo: i think the issue is i didnt have windows on it
L793[09:55:37] <Forecaster> I have never sent a computer in for repair
L794[09:55:41] <Charlotte> when they saw linux and couldnt log in, classified it as broken...they shouldnt even have looked at the hdd.
L795[09:55:51] <Charlotte> it was sent in for a power plug replacement
L796[09:55:53] <Forecaster> I've only returned components that were broken on arrival
L797[09:56:04] <Michiyo> But we gotta see it charging in OS HURRDURR
L798[09:56:15] <Charlotte> lol Michiyo...wouldn't surprise me.
L799[09:56:25] <Michiyo> No, seriously that was something we were told
L800[09:56:33] <Charlotte> seriously..
L801[09:56:35] <Charlotte> wow.
L802[09:56:37] <Michiyo> I kept a bootable firewire drive so I could boot it and bypass customer OS
L803[09:56:44] <Charlotte> yeah
L804[09:56:53] <Charlotte> and not invade their privacy.
L805[09:57:13] <Charlotte> i set up a second user account called service with very limited access
L806[09:57:25] <Michiyo> I also got a laptop packed with horse/cow shit once...
L807[09:57:31] <Charlotte> ewwww
L808[09:57:44] <Michiyo> and since the tech before me had replaced the RAM to "fix" the "issue"
L809[09:57:48] <Michiyo> I could biohazard it..
L810[09:57:53] <Michiyo> so I had to replace *EVERYTHING*
L811[09:58:19] <Charlotte> eugh wow
L812[09:58:22] <Michiyo> BUT I had to take it apart so I could get the screws to put the basically NEW laptop back together
L813[09:58:30] <Charlotte> oh god
L814[09:58:36] <Forecaster> eww
L815[09:58:37] <Lizzy> eww
L816[09:58:41] <Temia> Couldn't replace the screws too?
L817[09:58:41] <Michiyo> Yes.. very much so
L818[09:58:42] * Lizzy stabs Forecaster
L819[09:58:44] <Charlotte> one thing before i got a screw holder....losing laptop screws...
L820[09:58:48] <Forecaster> ohno
L821[09:58:56] <Michiyo> Temia, no, cause we didn't have all of the screws TO replace
L822[09:59:24] <Temia> Ordering them was off the table?
L823[09:59:36] <Charlotte> god damn it I was slain and lost my OC book
L824[09:59:39] * Michiyo shrugs
L825[09:59:43] <Michiyo> It wasn't an option
L826[09:59:51] <Forecaster> Charlotte: make a new one
L827[10:00:02] <Charlotte> hmm
L828[10:00:03] <Forecaster> it's a book and a T1 chip or something
L829[10:00:04] <Michiyo> I also got one that a guy had.... umm... taken care of him self.. on it
L830[10:00:09] <Charlotte> goes to OC wiki to look up how
L831[10:00:10] <Michiyo> THAT one got Bio'd
L832[10:00:13] <Lizzy> :/
L833[10:00:15] <Lizzy> eww
L834[10:00:23] <LKM003> is here anyone who had experience with the 'ME Upgrade' Crads from Extra Cells 2
L835[10:00:25] <Charlotte> lol Michiyo my girlfriend in high school had no gag reflex
L836[10:00:26] <Temia> I honestly would've made it an option.
L837[10:00:30] <Charlotte> threw up on her school laptop
L838[10:00:40] <Charlotte> laptops weren't covered for liquid damage
L839[10:00:49] <Charlotte> so she lost it through no fault of her own
L840[10:01:11] <Charlotte> just "I don't feel so good" *Throws up on laptop*
L841[10:01:27] <Temia> mrf.
L842[10:01:33] <Temia> I'm going back to bed.
L843[10:01:39] <Charlotte> the digital education revolution in nsw aus was stupid.
L844[10:01:41] <Temia> Have fun with the hardware gore.
L845[10:01:45] <Michiyo> Got one in once, with the trouble listed as: "What does this laptop, and Nicole Brown Simpson have in common?" "They both got killed by OJ"
L846[10:01:55] <Charlotte> LOL
L847[10:02:15] <Charlotte> I got a bit of money in high school installing windows xp on school laptops
L848[10:02:29] <Charlotte> windows 7 does not run nicely on a lenovo s10e
L849[10:02:43] <onifiv> I don't fucking know what to do. This isn't what I expected to be waking up to.
L850[10:02:44] <Charlotte> also ransacked ram for my own laptop and a couple of backups from them
L851[10:02:58] <Charlotte> onifiv: have a coffee? if you drink it
L852[10:03:26] <onifiv> I'd rather get drunk.
L853[10:03:32] <Lizzy> :/
L854[10:04:02] <Charlotte> eh that used to be my way of facing my problems. then decided being drunk or hung over every day of the week
L855[10:04:06] <Charlotte> wasn't for me
L856[10:04:57] <20kdc> "getting drunk" is on my life TODO list. It has currently never been fulfilled.
L857[10:05:08] <Charlotte> im guessing mac time capsule is a fileserver to backup to?
L858[10:05:27] <Charlotte> i get a notification every day saying no backup for 600+ days :p
L859[10:05:31] <Lizzy> onifiv, if you do end up getting drunk, please make sure your brain is still working somewhat. I need that
L860[10:05:40] <Charlotte> 20kdc how old are you?
L861[10:05:52] <Charlotte> or just never drunk enough to get drunk?
L862[10:06:21] <20kdc> First question: **Information access denied**. Second question: I have not knowingly drunk alcohol in my life.
L863[10:07:00] <20kdc> (additional note: "knowingly" as in "then or knowing at any point in the future.")
L864[10:09:33] <Michiyo> Wifey's s10 is sitting on my file server at home, with a broken screen...
L865[10:09:39] <Charlotte> i need to find iron and gold to make the manual...well i guess i should add more mods
L866[10:09:54] <Charlotte> Michiyo: yeah the screen on mine broke too
L867[10:09:58] <Michiyo> the replacement I ordered doesn't work, and the place I bought it from swears that it's an issue with the netbook...
L868[10:10:09] <Michiyo> even though I can put the old one back on and it works... other than it being broken
L869[10:10:14] <Charlotte> made an only sweet mcBukkit server
L870[10:10:41] <Charlotte> i was really surprised with its performance
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L872[10:11:43] <Charlotte> just the screen was too small for me
L873[10:12:11] <Charlotte> and battery life, they were sold to the department of education as lasting for 6hrs under standard use conditions
L874[10:12:15] <Charlotte> that didn't last long
L875[10:12:24] <Charlotte> people brought their chargers to school
L876[10:12:41] <Charlotte> then the school banned people using chargers and said if your laptop dies, bring your books
L877[10:12:55] <Charlotte> so the laptop that was meant to replace books, just added extra weight to our bags
L878[10:13:19] <20kdc> why did the school ban chargers? that makes... not much sense
L879[10:13:24] <Charlotte> and lasted at max 3-4 hours so nowhere near the school day in length
L880[10:13:36] <Charlotte> because one, they didn't have enough power points
L881[10:13:42] <Charlotte> two they didn't want the power bill
L882[10:13:57] <Charlotte> when you have a class of 30-40 students all trying to charge their laptops
L883[10:14:13] <Charlotte> it gets insane power cords everywhere and not everyone can charge anyway
L884[10:14:21] <Charlotte> when each room had at max, 10 power points
L885[10:14:39] <Charlotte> 3 of which were used for the staff computer, monitor and projector
L886[10:16:06] <Charlotte> when the laptops were decommissioned at my graduation/just before
L887[10:16:07] * Lizzy hugs onifiv
L888[10:16:11] <Charlotte> they didn't unlock the bios
L889[10:16:29] <Charlotte> which was, thankfully to me, known
L890[10:16:42] <Charlotte> but loads of other students just sold them
L891[10:17:40] <Charlotte> thankfully the password didn't need to be known as just pulling out the hard drive and putting on generic drivers for windows did the trick and USB booting was enabled at a point, I never allowed them to reimage my laptop
L892[10:18:37] <Charlotte> it was fun though paid 30AUD to reimage students laptops, repeatedly because they didn't swap out the hard drive and it got reimaged by staff
L893[10:28:23] <Charlotte> im happy OC is working
L894[11:00:46] *** Michiyo is now known as Mimiru
L895[11:00:53] <Mimiru> .-.
L896[11:04:39] <Forecaster> yay home
L897[11:07:44] <Lizzy> lucky sod
L898[11:08:27] <Mimiru> yay my glasses came in
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L900[11:08:48] <Mimiru> can't pick them up til lunch though, but this scratch is getting annoying
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L911[11:50:20] * Lizzy sighs
L912[11:51:04] <CompanionCube> ?
L913[11:51:41] * Lizzy is not sure if onifiv is okay
L914[11:52:37] <CompanionCube> onifiv: Disk failure on tty.sh
L915[11:52:45] <CompanionCube> *Lizzy
L916[11:52:53] <Lizzy> CompanionCube, i know that
L917[11:53:24] * CompanionCube wonders if they have backups..even if it's an OVH box
L918[11:53:30] <Lizzy> i just hope he is still in one piece
L919[11:53:45] <CompanionCube> why would they noy
L920[11:53:47] * Lizzy is not sure..... doesn't want to think about that
L921[11:55:18] <Inari> "aw, I wasn't aro und to ban that person. Ihate it when I miss fun things." Not sure thats the most brilliant quote coming from server admin xD
L922[11:55:41] <Skye> Inari, wut
L923[11:56:04] <Lizzy> CompanionCube, cause he hasn't responded to any of my texts and i think he's probably devistated that his server died
L924[11:56:13] <Lizzy> or at least that vm
L925[11:56:18] <Inari> Well I just think Server admins shouldn't be all hyped about banning :P
L926[11:56:39] <payonel> o/
L927[11:57:23] <CompanionCube> Inari: maybe they're a BOFH.
L928[12:01:34] <Lizzy> meh
L929[12:01:37] <Lizzy> home time i guess
L930[12:01:51] <CompanionCube> 'CenturyLink to Buy Level 3 for $34 Billion in Cash, Stock'
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L933[12:45:31] <CompanionCube> https://brasshorncommunications.uk/ these people look sweet
L934[12:49:05] <Mimiru> yay new glasses...
L935[12:49:12] <Mimiru> going to take a bit of getting used to..
L936[12:49:12] <Forecaster> yey
L937[12:58:40] <Mimiru> but tested at 20/15.... lol
L938[13:00:42] <Lizzy> i had a feeling that setting a windows vm up as the dhcp server for my lan was a bad idea
L939[13:01:26] <Mimiru> pffft, I had a windows VM acting as my IPv6 gateway :P
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L945[13:42:18] <payonel> i'm having sangar withdrawals
L946[13:53:03] * Temia orders a substitution, gives Payonel the sword that cleaves evil
L947[13:58:35] * payonel looks for some evil to cleave
L948[13:59:09] * CompanionCube forks off /usr/sbin/evild
L949[14:01:42] <Lizzy> on the bright side, at least i can use btrfs for my laptop's linux root drive
L950[14:02:04] <Lizzy> since i'm going to have to re-do stuff anyway
L951[14:04:24] <payonel> ^.^ i love btrfs
L952[14:06:04] <Mimiru> %seen Sangar
L953[14:06:04] <MichiBot> Mimiru: Sangar was last seen 9d 4h 32m 47s ago.
L954[14:06:08] <Mimiru> :/
L955[14:06:21] * Mimiru sighs
L956[14:06:29] * Mimiru bashes head on desk
L957[14:06:42] * Lizzy puts patting between Mimiru and desk
L958[14:06:47] <Lizzy> *padding
L959[14:08:50] <Mettaton_Fab> pats are also acceptable fo dis.
L960[14:08:59] * Lizzy thinks she might want to make a folder on her data partition for her to dump vm disks into rather than into the home folder then moving it to the data
L961[14:09:42] <Mettaton_Fab> you should.
L962[14:11:06] <Mimiru> I can't figure this out, and I don't feel like bothering my modder friends with my stupid questions.. :/
L963[14:19:04] <payonel> Lizzy: i use a sym link ~/.VirtualBox /mnt/active/VirtualBox # and active is my current data snapshot
L964[14:19:24] <Lizzy> ?
L965[14:19:37] <payonel> i take regular snaps (daily at least) and if i want to rollback my vms, i just copy a snap and remount
L966[14:19:43] <payonel> re: btrfs
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L968[14:20:01] <Lizzy> the vm thing and my laptop running btrfs are different
L969[14:20:13] <payonel> ah
L970[14:20:21] * payonel goes back to cleaving evil
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L972[14:22:25] <CompanionCube> payonel: do you use snapper
L973[14:23:12] <payonel> CompanionCube: no, crontab and custom btrfs shell commands
L974[14:25:43] <Charlotte> boop :D I'm awake
L975[14:26:38] <Charlotte> COCO POPS TIME :3
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L977[14:26:52] * Lizzy sounds the sirens
L978[14:27:18] <Charlotte> Oi :p
L979[14:27:26] <Lizzy> :P
L980[14:28:22] * Charlotte flies in for another round taking out Coco Pops fields, opening her gaping air whole swooping all the Coco Pop kernals :p
L981[14:28:58] <Charlotte> the Coco pop men run around in hysteria screaming at the large alien aircraft eating all their crops
L982[14:30:26] <Skye> isn't Lizzy a siren?
L983[14:30:37] * Lizzy giggles
L984[14:31:07] <Charlotte> Don't ask what happens in my mind
L985[14:31:13] <Charlotte> I seriously, have no idea.
L986[14:33:47] <gamax92> payonel
L987[14:34:14] <Charlotte> lol Lizzy you might find this interesting https://twitter.com/SwiftOnSecurity/status/793171896749527040
L988[14:34:16] <MichiBot> Mon Oct 31 14:24:51 CDT 2016 @SwiftOnSecurity: Why do NFL teams trade employees but companies don't.
L989[14:34:26] <Charlotte> OH MY GOD THAT BOT <3
L990[14:34:27] <Charlotte> YES
L991[14:34:36] <Charlotte> I'm in love.
L992[14:35:00] <Charlotte> please tell me its open so I can run it myself :p if not...I'll just make one
L993[14:35:14] * Lizzy prods Mimiru
L994[14:35:18] <Charlotte> OS/free w/e
L995[14:35:31] <Mimiru> %source
L996[14:35:32] <MichiBot> https://github.com/PC-Logix/LanteaBot/
L997[14:35:34] <Mimiru> It's horrible
L998[14:35:34] <Charlotte> orrr can we just stick it in #Factorio
L999[14:35:36] <Mimiru> I'm sorry
L1000[14:35:43] * Charlotte takes a look
L1001[14:36:02] <Lizzy> also lol, this dd copying of my laptop's ssd to my server is sitting at 88MB/s
L1002[14:36:19] <Lizzy> i wonder if it can go back in time and fix the fuckup
L1003[14:36:28] <Mimiru> lol..
L1004[14:36:29] <Charlotte> lol Lizzy
L1005[14:36:31] <Charlotte> xD
L1006[14:36:48] <Mimiru> Where we're going we don't NEED hard drives!
L1007[14:37:05] <Charlotte> oh its java...nvm I'll make my own
L1008[14:37:13] <Mimiru> :(
L1009[14:37:14] <Charlotte> or maybe i could take this opertunity to learn java...
L1010[14:37:27] <Charlotte> sounds good once I get my linux machine back
L1011[14:37:31] * Lizzy sighs, she needs to go see the doctor again but is too scared to
L1012[14:37:35] <Lizzy> *too
L1013[14:37:49] <Charlotte> iirc building parts to jdk requires xcode
L1014[14:37:56] <Mimiru> Lizzy, I've not even went for the first time..
L1015[14:38:03] <Charlotte> I cant spare 4.2gb / 8 days for it
L1016[14:38:04] <Lizzy> Mimiru, you should
L1017[14:38:13] <Charlotte> Mimiru: and Lizzy, you both should
L1018[14:38:15] <Mimiru> Charlotte, http://ci.pc-logix.com/job/LanteaBot/ Theres also that
L1019[14:38:36] <Charlotte> I need to get my first mammogram but im scared the people will be transphobic
L1020[14:38:46] <Mimiru> Though I think you'll need to grab the config example and stuff from the github repo
L1021[14:39:06] <20kdc> Charlotte: you probably shouldn't need to rebuild the JDK...
L1022[14:39:10] <Mimiru> My issue theres no one I *CAN* go to for roughly 100 miles in any direction
L1023[14:39:15] <Charlotte> woooo precompiled <3
L1024[14:39:23] <Charlotte> 45km here
L1025[14:39:35] <Charlotte> 1.6 miles to the km right or is that backwards
L1026[14:39:41] <20kdc> but if you *do*, you still shouldn't need the whole of XCode
L1027[14:39:45] <Charlotte> anyway ty Mimiru
L1028[14:39:56] <Charlotte> cant download any of xcode as it always times out
L1029[14:40:09] <Charlotte> im not good enough with curl/wget to download something requiring auth
L1030[14:40:16] <Charlotte> and cookies.
L1031[14:40:49] <Charlotte> i should look it up again and try now, last try was a year ago at auth'd downloads
L1032[14:40:53] <Mimiru> Charlotte, ever considered IPoAC? RFC 1149 FTW
L1033[14:40:54] <20kdc> idea: run "clang" in a terminal. if it says the command is not found, then welp, you need a C compiler...
L1034[14:41:08] <Charlotte> I have gcc
L1035[14:41:16] <20kdc> Even better, more likely to work
L1036[14:41:31] <20kdc> if you also have make/etc, then you may or may not be able to compile openjdk
L1037[14:41:33] <Charlotte> i code c/c++ from A Book on C
L1038[14:41:44] <Charlotte> yeah i have make and cmake
L1039[14:41:52] <20kdc> so if you have to compile, then you should be able to do it, no xcode required
L1040[14:42:15] <20kdc> or at least, that's theory
L1041[14:42:15] <Charlotte> not the case unfortunatly
L1042[14:42:29] <Charlotte> I don't understand why the dev who last owned this laptop
L1043[14:42:33] <Charlotte> lived without xcode
L1044[14:43:07] <Mimiru> srsly though... IPoAC.. Gotta be better than what you have now :P
L1045[14:43:10] <20kdc> reading this: https://github.com/manasthakur/tech/wiki/Building-OpenJDK-8-on-Mac-OS-X-Yosemite it says that you actually *don't* want to use Clang, but use the older GCC
L1046[14:43:22] <Mimiru> And with big enough flash drives throughput would be pretty good..
L1047[14:43:49] <20kdc> aaaahhh, it has --with-xcode-path, that's not good... OTOH that might just be to select a compiler, when since you already have GCC systemwide...
L1048[14:44:33] <20kdc> Mac OS X isn't exactly something I know that much about, but assuming OpenJDK's build system is "intelligent" enough to work out to use system GCC, stuff should be ok maybe.
L1049[14:53:41] <scj643> I got an SSD now
L1050[14:53:55] <scj643> Right now I'm getting the windows 10 install media
L1051[14:53:58] <gamax92> ~reload
L1052[14:54:09] <gamax92> ~w test
L1053[14:54:09] <ocdoc> Predicted http://ocd.cil.li/api:text
L1054[14:54:17] <gamax92> Shit that's a problem.
L1055[14:54:53] <scj643> Installing to the new SSD has me scared like hell
L1056[14:55:10] <scj643> Since windows afaik doesn't handle multi drive setups well
L1057[14:55:42] <gamax92> SSDs are great
L1058[14:55:59] <scj643> I've heard
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L1060[14:56:16] <Mimiru> I love my SSD... loved it so much went from a 250 to a 480
L1061[14:56:22] <scj643> Samsung 850 evo m.2 SATA III
L1062[14:56:27] <scj643> 500GB
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L1064[14:56:52] <scj643> Got to do a fresh windows install and have it use the documents from my current HDD
L1065[14:57:22] <scj643> Wonder if I can just point steam to the old HDD
L1066[14:57:24] <payonel> scj643: i wish that was something windows could do without a reinstall
L1067[14:57:35] <payonel> scj643: i tried to hack it, didn't work perfectly
L1068[14:57:44] <Mimiru> scj643, sure, just change the library location in steam's settings
L1069[14:57:45] <payonel> reinstalled, everything was perfect that way
L1070[14:57:52] <scj643> I could use Samsung's migration utility
L1071[14:58:05] <scj643> But I need a fresh install anyways
L1072[14:58:07] <payonel> also, like Mimiru said, steam is flexible
L1073[14:58:40] <Mimiru> steam and origin both pull from my old drive while installed to the new
L1074[14:58:56] <scj643> Ok
L1075[14:58:57] <scj643> Good
L1076[14:58:59] <gamax92> ehh, why do some SSDs look like sticks?
L1077[14:59:03] <scj643> Yeah
L1078[14:59:06] <scj643> Mine does
L1079[14:59:17] <gamax92> How am I supposed to mount that
L1080[14:59:26] <payonel> GAMAX!
L1081[14:59:28] <payonel> o/
L1082[14:59:30] <gamax92> Or protect the board
L1083[14:59:46] <scj643> Put it in an m.2 slot
L1084[14:59:53] <gamax92> a what?
L1085[15:00:10] <payonel> gamax92: i want to (soon) work on the device info, i'll add another emulated method for it in ocemu
L1086[15:00:12] <scj643> Mine is an m.2 drive
L1087[15:00:12] <payonel> but
L1088[15:00:32] <payonel> do you prefer it to be dynamic to the emulated components?
L1089[15:00:36] <payonel> or do oyu mind if i just hard code it
L1090[15:00:56] <gamax92> I prefer to look at oc source code first
L1091[15:01:33] <gamax92> your ... (Whatever the last PR is) was fine cause that list is also hardcoded in OC
L1092[15:01:54] <payonel> getProgramLocations()
L1093[15:01:57] <payonel> ok coo
L1094[15:01:58] <gamax92> yes
L1095[15:05:34] * Mimiru sets RadioShack on fire
L1096[15:05:39] * Mimiru and walks out
L1097[15:05:58] <scj643> Lol
L1098[15:06:32] <Mimiru> Well, it was tempting to set it on fire, and sit there...
L1099[15:06:34] <Mimiru> but meh
L1100[15:07:24] <CompanionCube> Mimiru: inb4 someone asks for parts
L1101[15:07:43] <Mimiru> You mean like LAST TIME I burnt this place down? lol
L1102[15:07:54] <CompanionCube> exactky
L1103[15:08:07] <Charlotte> Hai
L1104[15:08:12] <Mimiru> They're getting really good at rebuilding this place
L1105[15:08:36] <Charlotte> gf got on f-list, irc dropped out
L1106[15:08:37] * CompanionCube asks for a single part :3
L1107[15:08:55] * CompanionCube hides
L1108[15:09:16] * Charlotte gives CompanionCube a part bleh.7z.part1
L1109[15:09:18] <Charlotte> :p
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L1112[15:10:00] <Charlotte> iirc that was the 7z part sys...wait rar oops
L1113[15:10:55] * CompanionCube gives Charlotte a uunencoded archive
L1114[15:12:26] <Charlotte> tar? :3
L1115[15:12:40] <CompanionCube> Charlotte: I'm not saying
L1116[15:12:45] <CompanionCube> figure it out yourself
L1117[15:12:50] <Charlotte> lol
L1118[15:13:09] * CompanionCube does rm -rf /usr/bin/{file,binwalk}
L1119[15:13:45] * Charlotte doens't get it
L1120[15:13:59] <CompanionCube> Charlotte: both of those would be used to determine the archive's type
L1121[15:14:06] <Mettaton_Fab> what about dd?
L1122[15:14:10] <CompanionCube> by scanning for headers of known formats
L1123[15:14:45] <CompanionCube> Mettaton_Fab: Disk Destroyer? :p
L1124[15:14:49] <Charlotte> binwalk ?
L1125[15:15:09] <CompanionCube> Charlotte: http://binwalk.org/
L1126[15:15:19] <Mettaton_Fab> is clonezilla good for cloning hdds?
L1127[15:15:22] <Charlotte> lol dd is awesome...spent a while using that and something else to get windows to see a usb as bigger than it was
L1128[15:15:38] <Charlotte> Mettaton_Fab: I've used it, it worked .
L1129[15:15:47] <CompanionCube> Clonezilla's a good option, as is dd
L1130[15:16:00] <Charlotte> yep ^
L1131[15:16:01] <CompanionCube> (although be careful when using dd)
L1132[15:16:07] <Mettaton_Fab> soo... i can clone my win10 hdd with it?
L1133[15:16:31] <CompanionCube> Mettaton_Fab: yep
L1134[15:16:39] <CompanionCube> if you have a running system, dd may be iza
L1135[15:16:52] <CompanionCube> dd if=<win10 partition> of=win10.img bs=1M
L1136[15:17:28] <Charlotte> yep I'd recommend that
L1137[15:17:29] <Mettaton_Fab> what can i use on a winxp machine to clone my hdd?
L1138[15:17:52] <Mimiru> http://i.imgur.com/CvydtUq.jpg
L1139[15:17:56] <Charlotte> eh I wouldn't do it from the OS, it probably/might not work properly
L1140[15:18:14] <Charlotte> FFFFF I hit ctrl+Q
L1141[15:18:20] <Charlotte> GOD DAMN IT, good by chrome.
L1142[15:18:34] <Charlotte> s/y/ye/
L1143[15:18:34] <MichiBot> <Charlotte> GOD DAMN IT, good bye chrome.
L1144[15:18:41] <CompanionCube> Charlotte: well, you could likely do it on linux
L1145[15:18:46] <CompanionCube> not sure about windows
L1146[15:18:47] <Mettaton_Fab> nah, cloning the win10 hdd while using my winxp machine.
L1147[15:19:05] <Charlotte> yeah from what I remember of windows, its not possible
L1148[15:20:17] <Mettaton_Fab> soo... i should use a gparted bootstick and clonezilla?
L1149[15:20:21] <Charlotte> yep
L1150[15:20:39] <CompanionCube> https://twitter.com/SwiftOnSecurity/status/793150498098384896
L1151[15:20:39] <MichiBot> Mon Oct 31 12:59:49 CDT 2016 @SwiftOnSecurity: Ransomware uses full-screen Windows updates progress UI to get user to wait while it encrypts their files… https://t.co/0i6qpodXXW
L1152[15:20:42] <Mettaton_Fab> also, which linux distro fits on 4.1 gb when installed?
L1153[15:20:59] <Charlotte> external hard drive is probably a good idea, nas w/e
L1154[15:20:59] <Lizzy> there, that's Izaya's server moved
L1155[15:21:11] <Charlotte> clonezilla fits Mettaton_Fab
L1156[15:21:15] <CompanionCube> Mettaton_Fab: most likely most of them
L1157[15:21:46] <Mettaton_Fab> well, lubuntu doesnt.
L1158[15:21:48] <CompanionCube> you can get Linux distros that fit entirely within a 128MB space
L1159[15:22:02] <Mettaton_Fab> but can i clone hdds with those?
L1160[15:22:13] <Skye> use tiny core linux
L1161[15:22:23] <Charlotte> you can clone hdds with anything with a ntfs-3g stuffs
L1162[15:22:32] <Charlotte> since you're running windows you'll need that
L1163[15:22:40] <CompanionCube> you could also look at using sysrescuecd
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L1165[15:23:21] <Charlotte> ah sysrescuecd will do it
L1166[15:23:26] <CompanionCube> https://46qasb3uw5yn639ko4bz2ptr8u-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/files/2016/09/ransom-note-screen.png ._. the bad grammar
L1167[15:23:29] <Charlotte> and they are gone.
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L1169[15:24:00] <Charlotte> I love following SwiftOnSecurity <3
L1170[15:24:40] <Charlotte> "All your files are belong to us!" should be a ransomware warning
L1171[15:25:01] <Charlotte> eugh
L1172[15:26:05] <Mettaton_Fab> that would be the best warning!
L1173[15:26:05] <Charlotte> gf loads youtube video, i start watching it, she opens f-list chat without youtube showing, bleh get me hooked then take it away D:
L1174[15:26:34] <Skye> Charlotte, you should really get a web cache. :P
L1175[15:27:10] <Charlotte> its not a data issue, its a gf issue
L1176[15:27:27] <Charlotte> loads video then she just presumably listens to it while i wanna watch the video
L1177[15:27:32] <Charlotte> but i should get a web cache
L1178[15:28:57] * CompanionCube just began to think about how TLS affects web caching
L1179[15:29:11] <Skye> CompanionCube, welll
L1180[15:29:32] <Skye> if you own the web cache you can make your own root cert
L1181[15:29:43] <CompanionCube> Skye: yeah but that's not exactly sure, and then you have HPKP
L1182[15:29:44] <Charlotte> touche.
L1183[15:29:52] <CompanionCube> (even if browsers may ignore it)
L1184[15:30:22] <Skye> %p Charlotte
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L1186[15:41:10] <Skye> Charlotte, oo there is apparently a web accelerator built into firefox
L1187[15:42:36] <CompanionCube> Skye: I think they use Chrome
L1188[15:42:39] <Charlotte> how do i use it?
L1189[15:42:44] <Charlotte> I have firefox
L1190[15:43:23] <Skye> there's something called "Fasterfox", I have no idea if it's good or not
L1191[15:43:40] <Charlotte> i'll look it up ty Skye :3
L1192[15:45:21] <Charlotte> you said built in
L1193[15:45:35] <Charlotte> the only thing searches turn up is an addon
L1194[15:45:41] <Skye> yeah
L1195[15:45:44] <Skye> it's a addon
L1196[15:45:54] <Skye> addons in firefox are...
L1197[15:45:58] <Skye> how do I put it
L1198[15:46:01] <Skye> first class
L1199[15:46:11] <Skye> you can basically do tons with addons
L1200[15:46:25] <Charlotte> yeah. treestyletabs FTW
L1201[15:46:39] <Charlotte> upped cache limit to 1024mb
L1202[15:46:59] <Charlotte> i'll go get that addon and treestyletabs :2
L1203[15:47:00] <Charlotte> :3
L1204[15:47:26] <Charlotte> only reason i use chrome now is because it has all my cookies
L1205[15:47:35] <Charlotte> and i forget all of my passwords all of the time
L1206[15:48:47] <Izaya> chrome does not respect your freedoms
L1207[15:48:59] <Charlotte> Doesn't it?
L1208[15:49:06] <Izaya> then again you're on OS suX so what freedoms did you have anyway
L1209[15:49:28] <Izaya> Charlotte: while it is based on Free code it incorporates a lot of nonfree stuff too
L1210[15:49:49] <Charlotte> ah
L1211[15:50:25] <Charlotte> yeah I wanna install debian but netinstall isn't viable until my internet picks up
L1212[15:50:35] <Skye> Izaya, Charlotte's internet is too slow for her to be part of the botnet
L1213[15:50:46] <Charlotte> gah what house doesn't have spare light bulbs
L1214[15:50:47] <Charlotte> lol
L1215[15:51:03] <Skye> also Izaya did you know that Charlotte is in Australia
L1216[15:51:06] <Mettaton_Fab> firefox is just a fox gangbang, because addons.
L1217[15:51:12] <Charlotte> my internet would drop out before it was useful in event of being on a DDoS
L1218[15:51:13] <Charlotte> well
L1219[15:51:19] <Charlotte> im a Fox ;)
L1220[15:51:20] <Izaya> Charlotte: download it at a library or something
L1221[15:51:30] <Charlotte> nearest library...
L1222[15:51:33] <Charlotte> I have no idea.
L1223[15:51:37] <Izaya> ah, rural?
L1224[15:51:38] <Charlotte> over 100km i think
L1225[15:51:40] <Charlotte> yep
L1226[15:51:47] <Charlotte> next town is 45km
L1227[15:51:51] <Izaya> my condolences
L1228[15:52:17] <Skye> Izaya, are we allowed to disclose what austrialian state you live in?
L1229[15:52:18] <Charlotte> all g, satalite internet is all I have
L1230[15:52:20] <Izaya> I'm in the middle of nowhere but the place at least has a library and phone exchange
L1231[15:52:32] * g shrugs
L1232[15:52:34] <Charlotte> our phone exchange has a 5yr waiting list
L1233[15:52:46] <Charlotte> is a little radio shack up the hill
L1234[15:52:49] <Izaya> Skye: you can guess by my hostname
L1235[15:53:27] <Charlotte> i can't.
L1236[15:53:30] <Skye> basically... Charlotte and Izaya are in the same Austrilian state. though since it's huge it doesn't make much difference
L1237[15:53:56] <CompanionCube> Izaya: did you see the link I posted here last night
L1238[15:53:59] <Izaya> I'm pretty sure NSW is bigger than most European countries
L1239[15:54:06] <CompanionCube> I'd imagine it's the sort of thing you'd like to read
L1240[15:54:09] <Charlotte> england fits in to nsw 36 times
L1241[15:54:19] <Charlotte> that was a fact i learnt when i moved here.
L1242[15:54:24] <Izaya> CompanionCube: no?
L1243[15:54:38] <Izaya> Charlotte: why would you move to rural nsw
L1244[15:54:51] <CompanionCube> Izaya: https://companioncube.me/pocorgtfo/
L1245[15:54:54] <Charlotte> Made homeless in Sydney through all the fault of my own.
L1246[15:55:13] <Charlotte> moved in with a girlfriend in Emmaville.
L1247[15:55:56] <Charlotte> oh my god TreeStyle tab got an autohide upgrade <3
L1248[15:55:58] <Charlotte> YAY
L1249[15:56:05] <CompanionCube> topics covered in the first issue: Screwing with ELF and the dynamic linker, a storage device that erases itself when conditions are met
L1250[15:56:15] <Charlotte> oooo
L1251[15:56:19] <Charlotte> that sounds fun CompanionCube
L1252[15:56:26] <Izaya> CompanionCube: oooooooo
L1253[15:56:31] <Izaya> and LaTeX too
L1254[15:56:45] <Izaya> Charlotte: ah, so it wasn't a choice so much
L1255[15:56:50] <CompanionCube> Izaya: the weirdest thing though
L1256[15:56:51] <CompanionCube> is the license
L1257[15:57:06] <Charlotte> Not really at all Izaya
L1258[15:57:30] <Charlotte> poor mental health and believing the thought telling me "you have to get out of here" was anxiety
L1259[15:57:41] * CompanionCube is mirroring the issues so that he can comply with the licens
L1260[15:57:56] <Charlotte> lost it one day, spent a week in psych and was evicted.
L1261[15:58:00] <Izaya> CompanionCube: forced redistribution?
L1262[15:58:16] <Charlotte> yep
L1263[15:58:23] <Izaya> ouch Charlotte
L1264[15:58:29] <CompanionCube> Izaya: pretty much. It's smart, as you can find a number of mirrors on google now
L1265[15:58:55] <CompanionCube> I will give you fair warning
L1266[15:58:57] <Charlotte> I like it....I'll link Jacqui and see if he will mirror it
L1267[15:58:58] <CompanionCube> the PDFs are not just PDFs.
L1268[15:59:03] <Charlotte> oh?
L1269[15:59:16] <Izaya> inb4 zips
L1270[15:59:16] <CompanionCube> well, the first one really is jsut a PDF
L1271[15:59:21] <CompanionCube> Izaya: Issue #2
L1272[15:59:27] <CompanionCube> that's actually one of the articles iirc
L1273[15:59:58] <Charlotte> Anyone know how to reorder mac's dock?
L1274[16:00:00] <Izaya> for a while you'd see zip files on imageboards as pictures
L1275[16:00:04] <Charlotte> click and drag doesn't work/
L1276[16:00:05] <Izaya> actual pictures
L1277[16:00:10] <Charlotte> damn.
L1278[16:00:26] <Charlotte> i've seen the whole thumbnail is something image is something else
L1279[16:00:34] <Charlotte> thats some smart image manipulation
L1280[16:00:44] <Izaya> tbh never dealt with OS suX long enough to figure out how to reorder the dock
L1281[16:00:53] <Izaya> can't stand the computer talking down to me
L1282[16:00:59] <Izaya> because I OWN IT
L1283[16:01:06] <Charlotte> i hate macOSX
L1284[16:01:08] <CompanionCube> Izaya: '633M/var/www/html/pocorgtfo/'
L1285[16:01:13] <Charlotte> getting debian as soon as i can.
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L1287[16:02:00] <Charlotte> see at school we had a Mac Lab, and we found out how to start up in "service" mode and make admin accounts
L1288[16:02:03] <Charlotte> that was fun
L1289[16:02:13] <CompanionCube> Charlotte: single user mode?
L1290[16:02:22] <Charlotte> Yeah that was it
L1291[16:02:27] <Charlotte> forgot the name
L1292[16:02:32] <Izaya> broke into a Mac that way once or twice
L1293[16:02:40] <CompanionCube> all *nixen tend to have a variation on that one
L1294[16:02:41] <Charlotte> and the sys admins didn't know how to deal with a mac
L1295[16:02:44] <Charlotte> so just reimaged them
L1296[16:02:54] <Izaya> like adding init=/bin/bash to the end of a kernel line
L1297[16:02:55] <Charlotte> well imma vixen CompanionCube
L1298[16:02:56] <Charlotte> :p
L1299[16:03:02] <Charlotte> heh
L1300[16:03:04] <Charlotte> nice Izaya
L1301[16:03:23] <Izaya> mount -o remount,rw /
L1302[16:03:40] <Izaya> useradd -G sudo -m izaya
L1303[16:03:46] <Izaya> professional
L1304[16:03:49] <CompanionCube> Izaya: or better yet
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L1306[16:03:55] <CompanionCube> create a 2nd user that happens to share UID0
L1307[16:04:12] <Charlotte> http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/newslocal/the-hills/april-fools-prank-claimed-castle-hill-high-school-burned-down/story-fngr8i1f-1226870509709
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L1309[16:04:18] <Izaya> uid0 is sorta dangerous to have exposed like that though
L1310[16:04:19] <Charlotte> that was an interesting day
L1311[16:04:57] <CompanionCube> Izaya: at least you didn't try and fail at editing /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow manually
L1312[16:05:09] <Charlotte> my own investigation afterwards, the password was castlehillhighschool the same as the username
L1313[16:05:12] <Charlotte> on the sms gateway
L1314[16:05:27] <Izaya> CompanionCube: tools exist for a reason
L1315[16:05:28] <Charlotte> high school security was crap
L1316[16:05:39] <Charlotte> even after all my suggestions they never did anything
L1317[16:05:40] <CompanionCube> Charlotte: most security is crap
L1318[16:05:47] <Charlotte> yeah thing is
L1319[16:06:06] <CompanionCube> we've got a survey app that concats SQL strings, and the control software they use crashes if you visit long enough URLs
L1320[16:06:06] <Charlotte> I later met a furry who works at a company contracted to improve schools security...my high school was on the list
L1321[16:06:30] <Charlotte> so my head of IT got a talking too :p
L1322[16:06:43] <Izaya> Charlotte: I'm a bastard about it- I'm student IT and I make sure nobody cam get past the security
L1323[16:06:56] <Izaya> can*
L1324[16:07:01] * Inari hands Charlotte some Uranium-239
L1325[16:07:07] <CompanionCube> bad Inari
L1326[16:07:11] <Charlotte> ooo what this do Inari ?
L1327[16:07:13] * CompanionCube confiscates the uranium
L1328[16:07:15] * Charlotte licks it
L1329[16:07:17] <Charlotte> aw
L1330[16:07:22] <Izaya> handcancer
L1331[16:07:22] <Inari> xD
L1332[16:07:28] <Charlotte> bitch
L1333[16:07:29] <Charlotte> :p
L1334[16:07:32] <Charlotte> lol
L1335[16:07:47] <Charlotte> i got suspended so many times for hacking
L1336[16:07:48] * Mettaton_Fab gives Charlotte som lead pellets
L1337[16:07:51] <Charlotte> sorry
L1338[16:07:52] <XDjackieXD> Izaya: we just started a student IT team this year. gonne be fun :P (I got permission to pentest our whole system. found quite a few flaws so far ^^)
L1339[16:07:53] <Charlotte> "hacking"
L1340[16:08:04] <Charlotte> Oh XDjackieXD I did that! :3
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L1342[16:08:11] <Charlotte> school got bored of suspending me
L1343[16:08:15] <XDjackieXD> lol
L1344[16:08:17] <Izaya> Charlotte: I got sent up to the deputy for using vim to write LaTeX once
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L1346[16:08:23] * CompanionCube simply opts to not do things
L1347[16:08:25] <Charlotte> lol Izaya
L1348[16:08:37] <Skye> I was the person who got minecraft running on the school computers before they upgraded to windows 7 and broke everything
L1349[16:08:38] <XDjackieXD> before the it team was born I just annoyed our teacher who did the school it stuff :P
L1350[16:08:40] <Izaya> on a Thinkpad 600X
L1351[16:08:54] <Charlotte> then, the IT staff did nothing while my team did it all
L1352[16:08:54] <XDjackieXD> (like: fix this! fix that! oh and here's a hole too!)
L1353[16:08:56] <Charlotte> XDjackieXD: same here
L1354[16:09:06] <Charlotte> but i got suspended for holes.
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L1356[16:09:20] <Izaya> we let the actual staff do maintenance
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L1358[16:09:31] <Charlotte> yeah they didnt do it once i got my team
L1359[16:09:32] <CompanionCube> Charlotte: so supposedely the control-software logs tapped keystrokes on disk...and they don't have the best history with crypto
L1360[16:09:40] <Skye> I was the person who got angry when people messed with the system because I kinda enjoyed being able to use the computer.
L1361[16:09:41] <Charlotte> we replaced 100 computers at school
L1362[16:09:44] *** Mine|dreamland is now known as minecreatr
L1363[16:09:45] <Charlotte> the staff did nothing
L1364[16:09:50] <XDjackieXD> nah our new it team consists of one external person and one teacher (and us) and I like the two (they are nice and know their shit)
L1365[16:09:52] <Charlotte> we did the imaging too
L1366[16:10:09] <Charlotte> yeah we didnt have teachers or anything
L1367[16:10:19] <Charlotte> it was basically my sound and lighting crew
L1368[16:10:24] <Charlotte> repurposed to IT
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L1370[16:10:46] <Skye> I helped a teacher in secondary school with IT
L1371[16:10:48] <Skye> well
L1372[16:10:50] <Skye> DVD playing
L1373[16:10:54] <Charlotte> we were the misfit crew with more suspensions (we think) than the rest of the school combined during our stays
L1374[16:10:57] <Skye> they wanted to watch Wall-E
L1375[16:11:00] <Izaya> stage tech stuff I've only had to do once or twice
L1376[16:11:02] <CompanionCube> Charlotte: I wonder if you're familiar with the good /u/tuxedo_jack
L1377[16:11:16] <Skye> and they had the bounus disc instead of the movie
L1378[16:11:26] <Skye> I pointed out the movie / main disc
L1379[16:11:28] <Charlotte> we were called instead of IT staff because we responded quicker and actually taught them how to repeat the fix
L1380[16:11:36] <Charlotte> maybe CompanionCube
L1381[16:11:52] <CompanionCube> oh wait, i think you are
L1382[16:11:56] <Charlotte> Izaya: castle hill was known for being the best in the hills district.
L1383[16:12:04] <Charlotte> oh? CompanionCube?
L1384[16:12:14] <CompanionCube> Charlotte: didn't I link you to one of them or something
L1385[16:12:17] <CompanionCube> with the etherkiller
L1386[16:12:24] <Charlotte> not sure
L1387[16:12:39] <CompanionCube> but yeah, eitherway security in general is bad
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L1389[16:12:47] <Charlotte> also one day to get out of doing work, my class DDoSd the moodle
L1390[16:12:48] <Izaya> Charlotte: pfft
L1391[16:12:49] <Izaya> the one I go to is generally known as one of the best academically in the area
L1392[16:12:58] <Izaya> but it's still SPORTSPORTSPORTSPORTSPORT
L1393[16:13:03] <Izaya> >.>
L1394[16:13:03] <Charlotte> i hate sports.
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L1396[16:13:09] <Izaya> same
L1397[16:13:11] <CompanionCube> same
L1398[16:13:15] <Charlotte> i was the best at hurdles
L1399[16:13:19] <Charlotte> failed erm
L1400[16:13:23] <Charlotte> cross country
L1401[16:13:26] <Charlotte> after running it
L1402[16:13:27] * CompanionCube is glad to not have done any in recent years
L1403[16:13:35] <Charlotte> teachers told me i didnt have to do it
L1404[16:13:41] <Charlotte> because im asthmatic
L1405[16:13:49] <Izaya> I play quake clones, that's the closest I get to sport
L1406[16:13:52] <Charlotte> no one asked if i was before hand...
L1407[16:14:13] <Charlotte> closest i get to sport is grid 2
L1408[16:14:19] <Charlotte> or burnout 3 <3
L1409[16:15:14] <Charlotte> have you heard of ABTutor Control?
L1410[16:15:38] <scj643> SSD migration went well
L1411[16:15:43] <Charlotte> yay
L1412[16:15:51] <Izaya> no?
L1413[16:15:59] <Lizzy> Charlotte, your school uses/used moodle? lol, we (well, technically another team but meh) had fun and games with ours
L1414[16:16:19] <Izaya> guessing it's remote access/viewing software?
L1415[16:16:27] <CompanionCube> Lizzy: we use moodle
L1416[16:16:31] <Charlotte> yeah but apparently doenst need a client installed
L1417[16:16:38] <Charlotte> i got access to it once
L1418[16:16:48] <Charlotte> no password, control over the whole network
L1419[16:16:50] <Izaya> we use iTALC 2
L1420[16:16:57] <Izaya> I have all the keys
L1421[16:17:02] <Charlotte> IT staff watched me (using some other software)
L1422[16:17:16] <CompanionCube> Charlotte: ...
L1423[16:17:22] <Charlotte> and told me when suspending me "you must have installed it, it was the demo"
L1424[16:17:25] <CompanionCube> I am disappoint in that solution.
L1425[16:17:27] <Lizzy> CompanionCube, ours had to be put onto Amazon AWS because whoever originally specced the hardware for it didn't do it properly so we were trying to run it on half the minumim specs or something
L1426[16:17:32] <Charlotte> "you used it like a pro, obviously practiced it before"
L1427[16:17:49] <Charlotte> and boom 3 day suspension
L1428[16:18:24] <Charlotte> I had never seen the software before, it was quite intuitive
L1429[16:18:34] <Skye> I'm lucky
L1430[16:18:41] <CompanionCube> Charlotte: I'll just say this. The previous major version of the control software - version 6, used no encryption through the network traffic. Eventually, someone created a fake client and much trolling was had until they encrypted their shit
L1431[16:18:45] <Izaya> and a loonix laptop
L1432[16:18:53] <Charlotte> I made a local admin account using cmd/magnifier switch
L1433[16:18:54] <Skye> my dad works in the school I go to.
L1434[16:19:01] <Charlotte> ah cool
L1435[16:19:01] <CompanionCube> Charlotte: Izaya blocked that one
L1436[16:19:32] <Charlotte> the hole?
L1437[16:19:40] <Skye> Izaya, what would you do if we were all in your school? :PO
L1438[16:19:46] <CompanionCube> https://shadowkat.net/projects/winsec/
L1439[16:19:56] <Charlotte> i'd be weirded out if i was Skye
L1440[16:20:02] <Charlotte> i'm 22, would i be there as a teacher ?
L1441[16:20:07] <Skye> no
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L1443[16:20:13] <Skye> all turned into students
L1444[16:20:17] <Charlotte> ooo
L1445[16:20:18] <Charlotte> that
L1446[16:20:21] <Charlotte> would be fun
L1447[16:20:36] <Charlotte> getting away with stuff with just a suspension sounds great
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L1449[16:20:42] <Charlotte> at 22 you get criminal records.
L1450[16:20:43] <Charlotte> xD
L1451[16:21:06] <Charlotte> thankfully haven't done anything like that since leaving high school.
L1452[16:21:09] * Lizzy goes to get some headache tablets
L1453[16:21:35] * CompanionCube would look at the totally legitimate copy of IDA Pro 6.8 he has
L1454[16:21:37] <Charlotte> i'd be a loli girl :3
L1455[16:21:45] <XDjackieXD> :P
L1456[16:21:57] <Charlotte> IDA....thats the decompiler right?
L1457[16:22:01] <Lizzy> i'd be either the punk chick or goth girl, can't really decide
L1458[16:22:02] <XDjackieXD> CompanionCube: is it as legimate as mine? :P
L1459[16:22:09] <CompanionCube> XDjackieXD: depends
L1460[16:22:09] <Charlotte> i use radare2
L1461[16:22:20] <CompanionCube> mine was ultimately sourced from the Hacking Team people
L1462[16:22:34] <Charlotte> :p
L1463[16:23:01] <CompanionCube> and it came with Hex-Rays
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L1465[16:23:09] <XDjackieXD> well mine is from some person I don't know who likes to upload things xD
L1466[16:23:17] <Charlotte> I played this ASM door hacking game, got me into learning ASM and making my DCPU-16
L1467[16:23:20] <CompanionCube> XDjackieXD: what's the name on the license?
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L1469[16:23:25] <XDjackieXD> isn't Hex Rays the company behind IDA?
L1470[16:23:36] <CompanionCube> XDjackieXD: it's also the name of the decompiler add-on
L1471[16:23:44] <CompanionCube> which produces C code
L1472[16:23:53] <Charlotte> yeah
L1473[16:23:57] <Charlotte> nice....i want a copy
L1474[16:23:58] <Charlotte> :p
L1475[16:24:13] <XDjackieXD> yeah I have that too :P (it warns me every time that the support expired :P)
L1476[16:24:34] <Charlotte> this is a fun one https://microcorruption.com
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L1478[16:24:48] <Charlotte> i wonder, although its made up, if you can run it through a decompiler
L1479[16:24:56] <XDjackieXD> CompanionCube: License: 48-3057-7374-2C, 1 user, pro, named
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L1481[16:25:01] <Skye> Charlotte, I'd reccomend shenzhen IO but it costs money
L1482[16:25:06] <Charlotte> i have it Skye
L1483[16:25:08] <XDjackieXD> microcorruption is fun yeah ^^
L1484[16:25:12] <Charlotte> but this mac wont run it
L1485[16:25:14] <Charlotte> it crashes
L1486[16:25:24] <Charlotte> gui crashes...music keeps playing
L1487[16:25:24] <CompanionCube> Charlotte: smashthestack?
L1488[16:25:27] <Skye> they do bug fixes
L1489[16:25:30] <Charlotte> contacted support
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L1491[16:25:34] <Izaya> Charlotte: I'm working on a CPU mod for Minetest
L1492[16:25:39] * CompanionCube has also played with telehack before
L1493[16:25:40] <Charlotte> whats that CompanionCube?
L1494[16:25:45] <Charlotte> YOU LIKE MINETEST
L1495[16:25:48] <Charlotte> FINALLY SOMEONE <3
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L1497[16:26:03] <Charlotte> I did a PR on dreambuild(er?)
L1498[16:26:23] <CompanionCube> Charlotte: 'This network hosts several different wargames, ranging in difficulty.'
L1499[16:26:42] <XDjackieXD> I heard about telehack before. never played it though
L1500[16:26:53] <Skye> CompanionCube, telehack with 20s ping?
L1501[16:27:05] <CompanionCube> Skye: think of the realism :P
L1502[16:27:09] <Charlotte> wait hmmm
L1503[16:27:09] <Izaya> Skye: realism
L1504[16:27:11] <Charlotte> lol
L1505[16:27:13] <Skye> hey
L1506[16:27:17] <Charlotte> I'd get realism iwth anyhing..
L1507[16:27:17] <Lizzy> back
L1508[16:27:20] <Skye> for realism I had telehack on a serial terminal
L1509[16:27:22] <Charlotte> YAY Lizzy
L1510[16:27:39] <Izaya> I had telehack on a switch
L1511[16:27:46] <Charlotte> oh?
L1512[16:27:55] <Charlotte> i wish i still had all my hardware.
L1513[16:28:15] <Charlotte> HOLY F speedtest.me is working
L1514[16:28:15] <Izaya> ThinkPad 600X connected to a Cisco Catalyst's serial port
L1515[16:28:16] <Charlotte> YAY
L1516[16:28:25] <Charlotte> thank god my gf is off the internet
L1517[16:28:28] <Charlotte> I CAN BROWSE
L1518[16:28:35] <Skye> %p Charlotte
L1519[16:28:36] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Charlotte 1.13s
L1520[16:28:37] <CompanionCube> Izaya: shouldn't the retrocomputing dude be getting back to you soon
L1521[16:28:51] <Charlotte> http://speedof.me/show.php?img=161031212909-4060.png
L1522[16:29:34] <Charlotte> I got offered a job in sydney via someone looking through my github account
L1523[16:29:38] <Skye> why is your upload better than download
L1524[16:29:42] <Charlotte> just after I left sydney
L1525[16:29:45] <Charlotte> no idea.
L1526[16:29:57] <CompanionCube> Skye: it seems to be a pttern with very shitty internet
L1527[16:29:59] <Mimiru> http://speedof.me/show.php?img=161031213011-369.png ._. wtf why so slow.
L1528[16:30:21] <Charlotte> maybe the ISP only seriously throttles downloads
L1529[16:31:27] <Charlotte> you call that slow?
L1530[16:31:31] <Charlotte> thats better than most of sydney
L1531[16:31:50] <Temia> ...slow?
L1532[16:31:56] <Charlotte> maxes out at about 20Mbps
L1533[16:32:15] <payonel> gamax92: ?
L1534[16:32:30] <Temia> You could DoS me with a fraction of your upstream bandwidth ._.
L1535[16:32:31] <payonel> gamax92: oh oops, i was too high in the chat history
L1536[16:33:01] <Charlotte> you dont even need to DDoS me
L1537[16:33:04] <Temia> Charlotte's satellite internet is pretty godawful though.
L1538[16:33:17] <Charlotte> google replying to a request knocks me out
L1539[16:33:20] <Charlotte> :
L1540[16:33:21] <Charlotte> :p
L1541[16:33:23] <Temia> ...Yeah, I admit it'd take my entire upstream connection but even I could probably shut Charlotte down
L1542[16:33:24] <XDjackieXD> Mimiru: you have twice the upstream speed of my downstream speed...
L1543[16:34:53] * CompanionCube bets a PDP-11 could knock Charlotte out
L1544[16:34:58] <Skye> https://speedof.me/show.php?img=161031213515-2805.png
L1545[16:35:35] <XDjackieXD> Skye: that's pretty much the same as my connection
L1546[16:35:53] <Skye> DOCSiS?
L1547[16:36:03] <Mimiru> Sorry had a customer come in as I sent that
L1548[16:36:19] <Mimiru> That's my server.. in a datacenter, it should be at least twice that both ways
L1549[16:36:45] <Temia> https://speedof.me/show.php?img=161031213705-3455.png
L1550[16:37:24] <XDjackieXD> Skye: nope. VDSL2 (I could get up to 100mbit/s down and 80mbit/s but: expensive)
L1551[16:37:36] <Charlotte> I wish IPoAC was viable for me
L1552[16:37:49] <CompanionCube> depsite others using the interwebs
L1553[16:37:57] <Charlotte> I never thought I'd say that.
L1554[16:38:25] <Charlotte> Sydney was bad but at least i could go to maccas, or office works and watch Mr Robot
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L1556[16:40:08] <CompanionCube> not bad
L1557[16:40:11] <Charlotte> hmm i should look up if/how to transfer cookies from chrome to firefox.
L1558[16:40:13] <CompanionCube> we can get up to 40/10
L1559[16:40:34] <Skye> Charlotte, firefox can import stuff on reset?
L1560[16:40:41] <CompanionCube> (although we can upgrade to 80/20)
L1561[16:40:47] <CompanionCube> *up to
L1562[16:40:49] <Charlotte> eugh but that means a reset..
L1563[16:41:24] <XDjackieXD> the 16/3 I have is enough for most things. something like 30/10 or 30/20 would be nice but whatever
L1564[16:41:40] <Skye> XDjackieXD, I'm meant to have 50:3
L1565[16:41:41] <Charlotte> brb smokeo
L1566[16:41:55] <XDjackieXD> at least I have a static ipv4, a static ipv6 subnet and the best custoemr support ever :P
L1567[16:41:59] <Skye> Charlotte, https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/import-bookmarks-google-chrome?redirectlocale=en-US&redirectslug=Importing+bookmarks+from+Google+Chrome
L1568[16:43:50] <Mimiru> home is 30/5
L1569[16:44:06] <Mimiru> no ipv6 without a broker like HE..
L1570[16:44:40] <CompanionCube> we have basic ipv6
L1571[16:44:52] <CompanionCube> but it's dynamic, and while it is a /56, only a /64 is routed
L1572[16:45:19] <Mimiru> I had a VM doing IPv6 routing... it worked about as well as it sounds
L1573[16:45:20] <Mimiru> :P
L1574[16:48:18] <Charlotte> ty Skye
L1575[16:48:38] <XDjackieXD> Mimiru: nothign is worse than Online.net IPv6 :P
L1576[16:49:07] <Mimiru> IIRC That's who Lizzy used... it kept dying on her
L1577[16:49:33] <Lizzy> yep
L1578[16:49:47] <Charlotte> YAY
L1579[16:49:48] <Lizzy> whereas OVH's one is nice and statically set
L1580[16:49:51] <Charlotte> thank youuuuu
L1581[16:49:52] <XDjackieXD> yes I currently have an Online.net server (cause it's cheap) and I'm in the phase of "I configured it. now let's see how stable it is"
L1582[16:50:00] <Charlotte> I like OVH
L1583[16:50:06] <CompanionCube> XDjackieXD: I recall v6 would periodically break
L1584[16:50:06] <XDjackieXD> OVH is nice
L1585[16:50:26] <Charlotte> mac sucks
L1586[16:50:31] <XDjackieXD> CompanionCube: that's why I have icinga and smokeping running at home, monitoring IPv6 and IPv4 on my server :P
L1587[16:50:41] <Charlotte> switches to desk top then to app if its full screen.
L1588[16:51:36] <Mettaton_Fab> where the lewd at?
L1589[16:51:42] *** medsouz|offline is now known as medsouz
L1590[16:52:20] <Charlotte> right here :3
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L1592[16:52:26] <XDjackieXD> xD
L1593[16:52:26] * Charlotte yaps
L1594[16:52:36] *** Charlotte is now known as LottieTheVixen
L1595[16:52:55] <LottieTheVixen> woo nickserv group'd successfully <3
L1596[16:53:27] * Mettaton_Fab does some engineer stuff with cables
L1597[16:53:33] <LottieTheVixen> I now own Charlotte on 3 networks and LottieTheVixen on 2
L1598[16:54:25] <XDjackieXD> ^^
L1599[16:54:58] * Mettaton_Fab wants to build a 5.25" Tape deck for his amp
L1600[16:55:47] <CompanionCube> LottieTheVixen: ever seen the cat5-o-9tails
L1601[16:56:07] <LottieTheVixen> that I have not.
L1602[16:56:18] <LottieTheVixen> I wat to get a datasette
L1603[16:56:36] <LottieTheVixen> s/wat/want/
L1604[16:56:36] <MichiBot> <LottieTheVixen> I want to get a datasette
L1605[16:56:59] <LottieTheVixen> hmm
L1606[16:57:24] <CompanionCube> https://imgur.com/Vf4QdLt
L1607[16:58:09] <LottieTheVixen> and firefox just froze god damn it
L1608[16:58:22] <LottieTheVixen> can't play factorio and use firefox at the same time
L1609[16:58:23] <ping> i started a youtube channel
L1610[16:58:24] <ping> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fx-G5we6tWM
L1611[16:58:24] <MichiBot> How to make your WiFi more secure: Part 1 | length: 5m 58s | Likes: 1 Dislikes: 0 View: 1 | by PixelToast Programming | Published On 31/10/2016
L1612[16:58:27] <ping> i did my first video
L1613[16:58:38] <LottieTheVixen> nice
L1614[16:58:42] <LottieTheVixen> I have a channel
L1615[16:58:45] <LottieTheVixen> pythonfox
L1616[16:58:56] <ping> pssh
L1617[16:59:14] <LottieTheVixen> oddly enough, nothing on python as of yet
L1618[17:00:05] <CompanionCube> LottieTheVixen: if you haven't seen it, imagine a regular cat-o-9-tails except all the strings have been replaced with network cables with the ends still attached
L1619[17:00:15] <Mettaton_Fab> ,
L1620[17:00:25] <CompanionCube> not only do you get hit with the cable, but the RJ45 connector too
L1621[17:00:35] <ping> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCctpS7fJyQh6O5H44uN-4bA
L1622[17:00:37] <LottieTheVixen> nice CompanionCube
L1623[17:00:38] <ping> isnt my banner great?
L1624[17:00:48] <LottieTheVixen> i wish i could see it ping
L1625[17:00:53] <ping> :[
L1626[17:00:58] <LottieTheVixen> i made my twitter banner
L1627[17:01:03] <LottieTheVixen> twitter.com/foxsan48
L1628[17:01:05] <ping> why cant you see it XD
L1629[17:01:13] <LottieTheVixen> firefox froze.
L1630[17:01:22] <LottieTheVixen> until i close factorio which isnt happening yet
L1631[17:01:52] <LottieTheVixen> how do you freeze a process on unix systems
L1632[17:02:06] <CompanionCube> send SIGSTOP to it?
L1633[17:02:17] <LottieTheVixen> equivilent to ctrl+z
L1634[17:02:18] * CompanionCube is just guessing
L1635[17:02:28] <ping> killall -s SIGKILL firefox
L1636[17:02:33] <LottieTheVixen> ah ty
L1637[17:02:46] <CompanionCube> that doesn't freeze a process
L1638[17:02:46] <LottieTheVixen> then fg it after to resume :3
L1639[17:02:50] <CompanionCube> that brutually murders it
L1640[17:02:51] <ping> lol
L1641[17:02:52] <LottieTheVixen> wait
L1642[17:02:53] <LottieTheVixen> lol
L1643[17:03:03] <LottieTheVixen> thank god i didnt copy it yet...im tired
L1644[17:03:04] <LottieTheVixen> :p
L1645[17:03:06] <ping> yeah SIGKILL is a bad idea to start with
L1646[17:03:41] <CompanionCube> try SIGSTOP first
L1647[17:03:46] <LottieTheVixen> then sigcont
L1648[17:03:57] <LottieTheVixen> yeah i remember now thanks for the reminder
L1649[17:04:00] <LottieTheVixen> oops...
L1650[17:04:08] <LottieTheVixen> meant to sigstop factorio not firefox.
L1651[17:04:23] * CompanionCube has in the past, intentionally kill -11'd something
L1652[17:04:26] <Skye> Wups
L1653[17:04:33] <LottieTheVixen> ...
L1654[17:04:43] <LottieTheVixen> killall was not the way to do that i assume.
L1655[17:05:02] <CompanionCube> LottieTheVixen: multiple ways of doing the same thing iirc
L1656[17:05:12] <LottieTheVixen> factorio didn't stop.
L1657[17:05:13] <LottieTheVixen> eugh
L1658[17:05:25] <LottieTheVixen> bleh
L1659[17:05:48] * LottieTheVixen saves and quits factorio
L1660[17:07:03] <LottieTheVixen> ty CompanionCube anyway
L1661[17:07:13] <LottieTheVixen> sigstop plays nicely with chrome
L1662[17:08:04] <LottieTheVixen> also transfering apparently did cookies....but hasnt
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L1664[17:08:15] <Skye> Uh wut
L1665[17:08:37] ⇦ Quits: Schzd (~Schzdadep@modemcable121.35-162-184.mc.videotron.ca) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
L1666[17:08:55] <LottieTheVixen> firefox said it did
L1667[17:09:01] <LottieTheVixen> but hasn't
L1668[17:09:09] <LottieTheVixen> eugh time to reset passwords, again
L1669[17:09:18] <LottieTheVixen> wait...time to redownload keepass and try again
L1670[17:09:38] <gamax92> payonel: ?
L1671[17:10:10] <LottieTheVixen> anyone use limechat?
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L1673[17:13:55] <LottieTheVixen> eugh
L1674[17:14:05] <LottieTheVixen> docker official/node fails....redownload time
L1675[17:14:27] * CompanionCube ha
L1676[17:14:39] <CompanionCube> heh, node
L1677[17:14:45] <gamax92> https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/2402
L1678[17:14:51] <LottieTheVixen> what's up with node? :p
L1679[17:15:06] <gamax92> lol, node
L1680[17:15:09] <LottieTheVixen> that downloaded quick...
L1681[17:15:15] <LottieTheVixen> I think our internet is back to normal
L1682[17:15:16] <LottieTheVixen> YAY
L1683[17:15:29] <gamax92> I fucking hate my phone
L1684[17:15:40] <gamax92> press volume button, volume changes 10 seconds later
L1685[17:16:00] <Mimiru> gamax92, sounds about like mine, hit key on keyboard 10 seconds later, letter typed
L1686[17:16:07] <LottieTheVixen> 70/250Kbps
L1687[17:16:20] <LottieTheVixen> i guess it had the image already
L1688[17:17:20] <CompanionCube> LottieTheVixen: the problem with node is that the standard library's anemic leading to huge dependency counts
L1689[17:17:22] <Mettaton_Fab> nighto.
L1690[17:17:26] ⇦ Quits: Mettaton_Fab (~herecomes@p57964884.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Quit: here goes dat boi!)
L1691[17:17:35] <LottieTheVixen> anemic ?
L1692[17:17:35] <Mimiru> I can't even restore it anymore cause I fucked the recovery on it
L1693[17:17:40] <Mimiru> and no one has the original
L1694[17:17:49] <LottieTheVixen> damn Mimiru
L1695[17:17:58] <CompanionCube> also, people keep trying to write entire applications with it
L1696[17:18:56] <LottieTheVixen> lol
L1697[17:19:10] <LottieTheVixen> what's the useradd alternative that sets up using skel dir and stuff
L1698[17:19:20] <CompanionCube> adduser?
L1699[17:19:23] <Lizzy> right, laptop's ssd partition is now backed up to my home server
L1700[17:19:26] <LottieTheVixen> derp.
L1701[17:19:28] <LottieTheVixen> ty
L1702[17:19:32] <Lizzy> oops
L1703[17:19:39] <Lizzy> wasn't m,eant ot hit enter that early
L1704[17:20:34] <Lizzy> right, laptop's ssd partition is now backed up to my home server and it's extra little space on my laptops hdd (which still needs to be replaced), tomorrow i can start the process of reinstalling arch
L1705[17:20:40] * CompanionCube resists urge to complain about Electron and friends
L1706[17:21:11] <Mimiru> I *STILL* need to figure out why OpenFM refuses to work on Arch..
L1707[17:21:16] <Mimiru> :P
L1708[17:21:25] <LottieTheVixen> woooo
L1709[17:21:34] <LottieTheVixen> adduser lottie; su -l lottie
L1710[17:21:36] <LottieTheVixen> boop
L1711[17:21:36] <LottieTheVixen> :D
L1712[17:21:38] <Lizzy> once i've finished fucking about with my servers and shit, i'll see if i can get another vm set up again
L1713[17:21:44] <Mimiru> works on Fedora, Debian, Ubuntu...
L1714[17:22:44] <LottieTheVixen> welp
L1715[17:22:49] <LottieTheVixen> forgot to apt-get git
L1716[17:23:29] <LottieTheVixen> get git, npm bug-clinic and stackup
L1717[17:23:33] <LottieTheVixen> I'm ready :D
L1718[17:23:46] <LottieTheVixen> to go to the doctors...
L1719[17:24:01] * CompanionCube wonders how many hundreds of deps the npm packages will have
L1720[17:24:48] <LottieTheVixen> no idea
L1721[17:25:18] <LottieTheVixen> what im gonna do at the docs while waiting is nodeschool's bug-clinic
L1722[17:25:52] <LottieTheVixen> starting from what i already have https://github.com/foxsan48/probable-octo-rotary-phone.git
L1723[17:26:13] <Lizzy> right, i'ma head to bed. ciao
L1724[17:26:21] <LottieTheVixen> nini Lizzy
L1725[17:26:22] <LottieTheVixen> :3
L1726[17:26:50] <Mimiru> and I'm about to head home
L1727[17:26:57] <Mimiru> then out Trick or Treating with my girls
L1728[17:27:21] <LottieTheVixen> hmmm I should look up how to link docker to outside FS
L1729[17:27:33] <LottieTheVixen> because using vim when i prefer sublime is gonna be bleh
L1730[17:30:35] <ping> https://i.pxtst.com/cc50a.png
L1731[17:30:41] <CompanionCube> LottieTheVixen: it's called volumes
L1732[17:30:51] <LottieTheVixen> yeah i got it :3
L1733[17:30:58] <LottieTheVixen> https://docs.docker.com/engine/tutorials/dockervolumes/
L1734[17:31:00] <LottieTheVixen> :3
L1735[17:33:22] <LottieTheVixen> i tried `docker run -d -P --name node -v /home/Users/charlottelilyfields/git:/home/lottie/hostgit`
L1736[17:33:33] <LottieTheVixen> node being one that already exists...but it failed
L1737[17:33:34] <gamax92> https://www.reddit.com/r/softwaregore/comments/59eher/
L1738[17:33:40] <LottieTheVixen> bleh
L1739[17:33:54] <LottieTheVixen> docker is a pain
L1740[17:33:55] <gamax92> oh hey Lottie
L1741[17:34:12] <CompanionCube> LottieTheVixen: you are just realising this now?
L1742[17:34:37] <LottieTheVixen> well its easier than using mac for dev
L1743[17:34:51] <LottieTheVixen> as xcode was required to install
L1744[17:35:12] <LottieTheVixen> stackup
L1745[17:36:13] <gamax92> I remember trying to use docker for some cuda thing
L1746[17:37:29] <gamax92> I gave up and just ran it on my computer
L1747[17:38:20] <LottieTheVixen> yeah unfortunatly running a mac
L1748[17:38:35] <LottieTheVixen> dev on this thing isnt an option unless i pay someone to post a usb of xcode to me
L1749[17:38:47] <CompanionCube> https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/5adlz4/im_the_css_mod_here_responsible_for_the/
L1750[17:39:28] <gamax92> I'll take your money :D
L1751[17:39:37] <gamax92> I mean ...
L1752[17:40:23] <LottieTheVixen> i'd rather get Izaya to do it :p
L1753[17:40:45] <LottieTheVixen> OH MY GOD CompanionCube I LOVE IT
L1754[17:41:25] <gamax92> CompanionCube: D: why
L1755[17:41:44] <CompanionCube> gamax92: it was linked from softwaregore
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L1757[17:41:51] <LottieTheVixen> I actually like it
L1758[17:42:06] <CompanionCube> LottieTheVixen: even the falling animated shit
L1759[17:42:19] <LottieTheVixen> not that
L1760[17:42:22] <LottieTheVixen> the rest of it though
L1761[17:42:27] <LottieTheVixen> its funny
L1762[17:42:33] <LottieTheVixen> would get annoying very quickly
L1763[17:42:56] <CompanionCube> still needs more ooer
L1764[17:43:05] <CompanionCube> halp i am not good with computer please halp
L1765[17:58:41] <Xakorik> Download for Computronics and AsieLib not work?
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L1771[18:03:14] <CompanionCube> so I just watched ping's wifi video
L1772[18:03:23] <CompanionCube> 11/10 would troll again
L1773[18:03:56] <LottieTheVixen> what was it, turn off wifi?
L1774[18:03:58] <LottieTheVixen> :p
L1775[18:04:01] <CompanionCube> no
L1776[18:04:03] <LottieTheVixen> thats how you make it more secure
L1777[18:04:10] <CompanionCube> set the security to WEP with a 3-char password
L1778[18:04:15] <LottieTheVixen> LOL
L1779[18:04:16] <CompanionCube> disable logging and the firewall
L1780[18:04:24] <LottieTheVixen> beautiful
L1781[18:04:26] <CompanionCube> port-forward ALL THE THINGS
L1782[18:04:31] <CompanionCube> (including the SMB port)
L1783[18:04:36] <LottieTheVixen> haha
L1784[18:04:42] <LottieTheVixen> it gets better
L1785[18:04:45] <CompanionCube> enable all forms of remote admin, even telnet
L1786[18:04:52] <LottieTheVixen> why not set up your PC as DMZ too
L1787[18:04:56] <CompanionCube> with 'admin:admin' as the credentiaLS
L1788[18:05:01] <LottieTheVixen> so your pc can manage it
L1789[18:05:21] <LottieTheVixen> convince people that the router slows it down checking it so DMZ is better :p
L1790[18:05:41] <CompanionCube> a valid other title
L1791[18:05:46] <CompanionCube> 'How to enter a Botnet'
L1792[18:06:01] <LottieTheVixen> heh
L1793[18:06:10] <CompanionCube> most likely mirai
L1794[18:06:16] <LottieTheVixen> yep
L1795[18:06:30] <LottieTheVixen> i wonder what mirai uses scraping defaults.
L1796[18:06:41] <LottieTheVixen> probably scraped a default password db and uses that
L1797[18:06:59] <ping> CompanionCube, glad you enjoyed it
L1798[18:07:10] <LottieTheVixen> I love it ping
L1799[18:07:14] <LottieTheVixen> from what I've heard
L1800[18:07:16] <ping> my next video is going to be configuring windows to be the least secure possible
L1801[18:07:22] <LottieTheVixen> heh
L1802[18:07:23] <LottieTheVixen> YAY
L1803[18:07:25] <ping> i know
L1804[18:07:33] <CompanionCube> ping: you mean
L1805[18:07:38] <LottieTheVixen> tweet it at SwiftOnSecurity, she might like it
L1806[18:07:39] <ping> its a hard feat considering its already windows
L1807[18:07:40] <CompanionCube> just running the installer
L1808[18:07:42] <ping> XD
L1809[18:07:45] <LottieTheVixen> lol
L1810[18:08:24] <CompanionCube> perhaps install superfish afterwards
L1811[18:09:21] <CompanionCube> ping: what do you plan to do with Windows
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L1813[18:09:29] <LottieTheVixen> nvm i tweeted it at her
L1814[18:09:38] <ping> LottieTheVixen, loool too late
L1815[18:09:39] <ping> kek
L1816[18:09:48] <LottieTheVixen> you did it?
L1817[18:09:50] <LottieTheVixen> damn it
L1818[18:09:58] <ping> yeah from my main account @InfiniPixel
L1819[18:10:19] <LottieTheVixen> damn it
L1820[18:10:25] <CompanionCube> obviously
L1821[18:10:35] <CompanionCube> unpatched XP with no servicepacks is the most secure version ever
L1822[18:10:51] <CompanionCube> especially if you run everything as administrator
L1823[18:11:17] <LottieTheVixen> that's how you tell the computer you're its dom
L1824[18:11:17] <ping> i should have put "god" or "123" as the password instead of "lol"
L1825[18:11:22] <ping> those two are more popular
L1826[18:11:27] <CompanionCube> ping: or
L1827[18:11:47] <LottieTheVixen> followed youuu
L1828[18:12:12] <CompanionCube> say 'We could use password, but it's more secure to use both letters and numbers instead, so let's use password1.'
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L1833[18:21:09] <LottieTheVixen> lol
L1834[18:21:27] <LottieTheVixen> and because longer is better, password123
L1835[18:22:39] <Inari> GodIsMyPassword
L1836[18:23:22] <CompanionCube> Inari: my password is incorrect
L1837[18:24:01] <Inari> [00:24:17] NickServ [NickServ@services.esper.net]: Invalid password for CompanionCube.
L1838[18:24:32] <CompanionCube> the joke || your head
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L1842[18:34:57] <Achai> you want to know whats more secure than hunter2? hunter3.
L1843[18:35:32] <LottieTheVixen> lol
L1844[18:36:47] <LottieTheVixen> yay boobs shaven, face shaven, me showered
L1845[18:36:52] <LottieTheVixen> woo ready for doctors :3
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L1862[20:06:46] <LottieTheVixen> boop
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L1864[20:16:37] <LottieTheVixen> Anyone heard of Trillek?
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L1877[21:49:12] <Katie> Damn.... A friend lost *EVERYTHING* on their Warframe account
L1878[21:49:27] <Katie> someone got into their account and got everything
L1879[21:56:03] <LottieTheVixen> never played but that suckss
L1880[21:56:08] <LottieTheVixen> no 2FA?
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L1883[23:13:48] <gamax92> Listen up here you huge sack of shit
L1884[23:14:21] <LottieTheVixen> who is the sack of shit?
L1885[23:15:12] <gamax92> I don't know :<
L1886[23:15:31] <gamax92> Windows Update.
L1887[23:15:59] <LottieTheVixen> ah
L1888[23:16:35] <gamax92> staring at a screen that says 13%
L1889[23:18:50] <gamax92> yay finally, 30%
L1890[23:22:14] <LottieTheVixen> gf "I can't sleep but so lathargic" *falls asleep within 2 minutes of saying that*
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L1892[23:22:32] <gamax92> sleep or passed out?
L1893[23:25:01] <LottieTheVixen> passed out....well actually she is responsive but only half so
L1894[23:25:04] <LottieTheVixen> https://twitter.com/Cannibal/status/793237787394748416
L1895[23:25:04] <MichiBot> Mon Oct 31 18:46:40 CDT 2016 @Cannibal: Maybe this will motivate @sudosev https://t.co/1MDzBunKk4
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