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L1[00:02:28] <Kodos|Out> http://puu.sh/ryf2U/e8321e78d6.png
L2[00:14:06] <Kodos|Out> Anyone familiar with Chisels and Bytes?
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L13[01:21:45] <Forecaster> yes
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L26[03:04:46] <Forecaster> https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video/Crjs4riUEAAXm3q.mp4
L27[03:04:47] <Forecaster> haha
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L29[03:08:19] <Forecaster> http://imgur.com/gallery/dSJqmj8
L30[03:08:23] <Forecaster> I didn't expect
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L35[03:19:35] <Inari> "Gently massage entire face, rinse off with cold water to prevent dropping skin. "
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L38[03:23:27] <Forecaster> ohmy
L39[03:24:27] <Forecaster> http://i.imgur.com/v0JmEFw.mp4
L40[03:26:00] <Forecaster> wait what
L41[03:26:01] <Forecaster> http://imgur.com/gallery/SkdEhH5
L42[03:30:00] <Inari> "Take a proper amount on the palm, add a small amount of water,make foams, rub the whole face like massaging and wash it withwater.""
L43[03:30:07] <Inari> Thats more like the proper description
L44[03:30:08] <Inari> :P
L45[03:30:18] <Inari> "Gently remove water out of face by towel." sounds painful
L46[03:30:51] <Inari> @choose aloe or potatoe or green tea
L47[03:30:54] <Inari> ;choose aloe or potatoe or green tea
L48[03:30:57] <Inari> %choose aloe or potatoe or green tea
L49[03:30:58] <MichiBot> Inari: aloe
L50[03:31:08] <Inari> Can't we just have a universal prefix already
L51[03:40:20] <Lizzy> %isup git.theender.net
L52[03:40:20] <MichiBot> Lizzy: git.theender.net Is Down.
L53[03:40:22] <Lizzy> :/
L54[03:40:24] <Lizzy> fuck
L55[03:41:27] <Lizzy> %isup git.theender.net
L56[03:41:27] <MichiBot> Lizzy: git.theender.net Is Down.
L57[03:42:42] <Forecaster> ohno D:
L58[03:42:59] <Forecaster> wait, but it's up?
L59[03:43:07] <Lizzy> %isup git.theender.net
L60[03:43:08] <MichiBot> Lizzy: git.theender.net Is Down.
L61[03:43:16] <Lizzy> it is?
L62[03:43:18] <Forecaster> yeah
L63[03:43:21] <Forecaster> the site loads...
L64[03:43:24] <Forecaster> it's fine
L65[03:43:26] <Inari> https://www.reddit.com/r/aww/comments/55wfu8/weiners_vs_lion/
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L67[03:43:39] <Lizzy> still going to clear out Athar's ip tables through
L68[03:44:19] <gamax92> %choose youtube or wii or sleep
L69[03:44:19] <MichiBot> gamax92: wii
L70[03:44:34] <gamax92> %choose youtube or sleep
L71[03:44:34] <MichiBot> gamax92: sleep
L72[03:44:40] <gamax92> no youtube for me today
L73[03:44:46] <Forecaster> ohno
L74[03:44:52] <Forecaster> but who's gonna watch all the videos
L75[03:45:04] <gamax92> You'll have to watch all the videos for me in my leave
L76[03:45:22] <Lizzy> #p evil_dan2wik
L77[03:45:24] <Lizzy> ffs
L78[03:45:27] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > Timeout.
L79[03:45:29] <Lizzy> #p Ender
L80[03:45:34] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > Timeout.
L81[03:45:36] <Lizzy> :/
L82[03:45:40] <Lizzy> %isup git.theender.net
L83[03:45:40] <MichiBot> Lizzy: git.theender.net Is Down.
L84[03:46:01] <Lizzy> ffs
L85[03:46:37] <Forecaster> now it's down
L86[03:47:27] <Lizzy> k, so ufw is fucking up
L87[03:47:32] <Forecaster> wait no, now it's loading again
L88[03:47:48] <Lizzy> Forecaster: I KNOW THAT I'M FUCKING ABOUT WITH THE FIREWALL
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L91[03:48:44] <Forecaster> okay
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L94[03:55:00] <Lizzy> %isup https://git.theender.net
L95[03:55:11] <MichiBot> Lizzy: https://git.theender.net Is Up.
L96[03:55:16] <Lizzy> \o/
L97[03:56:20] <Forecaster> yay :D
L98[04:00:52] <Inari> I wonder if I can buy a defruited strawberry somewhere
L99[04:03:09] <Forecaster> I wonder if you can buy a deberried strawberry somewhere
L100[04:41:57] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btfoqKMEpVY ~
L101[04:41:58] <MichiBot> YUI HORIE - Immoralist from Dragon Crisis (Official Video) | length: 4m 57s | Likes: 868 Dislikes: 21 Views: 119,694 | by GanShinRecordsTV
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L104[04:48:38] <Inari> God I love the cahnges of pace in this song
L105[04:50:21] <Inari> Hm
L106[04:50:54] <Inari> I find it interesting that in anime where characters are basically cutified, usually lips are completely removed. But with celebrities and such they even inject thier lips with stuff to make them bigger..
L107[04:51:14] <gamax92> cute != sexy
L108[04:51:25] <Inari> Cute can be sexy~
L109[04:51:36] <gamax92> sure, but cute does not imply sexy, nor vice versa
L110[04:51:37] <Inari> But that isn't usually the kind of hollywood sexy
L111[04:52:10] <Inari> Why do so many people hate cute :<
L112[04:52:59] <Inari> Some other girl I once had in my class, who really had cuteness-potential even said she hates being called cute and dresses up trying to be sexy when she goes to a club or so xD
L113[04:53:11] <Inari> and in general a lot of women here seem to go more on the "sexy"
L114[04:53:35] <gamax92> This library is a mpg123 and a mikmod wrapper for the Wii, yet had the mp3 support commented out
L115[04:54:00] <gamax92> Uncommented it, proceeded to get screeching sounds of satan instead of music, put the comments back :P
L116[04:54:36] <Inari> Lol
L117[04:55:02] <Inari> Some songs do sound pretty good backwards
L118[04:56:20] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mV_V-BRNB9c
L119[04:56:21] <MichiBot> Naraku no Hana- REVERSED LYRICS | length: 5m 4s | Likes: 18 Dislikes: 0 Views: 3,249 | by TappolinaGasmoXiana
L120[04:59:05] <Inari> http://i.imgur.com/bkaxX0b.jpg brutal.
L121[05:00:51] <Inari> (non-reversed version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHr3g1c11yw )
L122[05:00:52] <MichiBot> Higurashi no Naku Koro ni Kai - Opening - Naraku no Hana - Romaji & japanese lyrics | length: 5m 2s | Likes: 2,045 Dislikes: 8 Views: 195,288 | by Nippon254
L123[05:02:04] <Inari> I need more chanting in songs:<
L124[05:03:12] <gamax92> Inari: Lisp :/
L125[05:03:21] <gamax92> that's a lot of parenthesis.
L126[05:03:29] <gamax92> I never realised
L127[05:04:40] <Inari> So wait
L128[05:04:48] <Inari> the only language that actuallymanaged to rescue the princess was C
L129[05:04:48] <Inari> :p
L130[05:05:16] <gamax92> And lisp maybe
L131[05:05:37] <Inari> True
L132[05:05:53] <Inari> Some old music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GW-ojhMZty4
L133[05:05:53] <MichiBot> Sportfreunde Stiller - Ich, Roque | length: 3m 44s | Likes: 1,431 Dislikes: 61 Views: 496,225 | by VertigoTV
L134[05:13:05] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_E7asLk0C1w Hm not actaully bad
L135[05:13:05] <MichiBot> Gallow Bells [Nano] | length: 3m 45s | Likes: 1,008 Dislikes: 4 Views: 171,205 | by Jun QQ
L136[05:13:13] <scj643> Morning haters
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L138[05:15:45] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YEu_FxQqkk with subs
L139[05:15:46] <MichiBot> GALLOWS BELL -buzzG feat. nano- | length: 3m 48s | Likes: 4,020 Dislikes: 22 Views: 605,374 | by nanois2525
L140[05:19:16] <scj643> http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4W0l3vcQ1W0
L141[05:19:16] <MichiBot> Kano - Walk This Way! | length: 4m 10s | Likes: 15 Dislikes: 0 Views: 461 | by 秋葉原美的
L142[05:19:18] <Izaya> Whoops
L143[05:19:24] <Izaya> Playing Rollercoaster Tycoon 2
L144[05:19:29] <scj643> Lol
L145[05:19:33] <Izaya> My wooden coaster I just built has an Ultra-Extreme rating
L146[05:19:36] <Izaya> fuck.
L147[05:19:42] <Izaya> It was open for 6 months
L148[05:19:46] <Izaya> Nobody dared to try to ride it
L149[05:19:58] * scj643 is eating ramen for breakfast
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L151[05:42:05] <Forecaster> http://i.imgur.com/aOe0O1h.gif
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L156[06:05:13] <Inari> https://twitter.com/jlist/status/783517330416467968
L157[06:05:14] <MichiBot> Tue Oct 04 23:01:03 CDT 2016 @jlist: So, we’ve got this shirt we’ve always wanted to make, but the Fuck Your Shit part is a problem. How would you chang… https://t.co/zjAnjHY4Fq
L158[06:06:08] <Inari> WAit
L159[06:06:15] <Inari> does the text imply that fucking your own shit is fun... Hmmm
L160[06:09:17] <Forecaster> https://twitter.com/The_MOE_Dome/status/783556213581684736
L161[06:09:17] <MichiBot> Wed Oct 05 01:35:33 CDT 2016 @The_MOE_Dome: @jlist Cool - As long as I get a FREE T-shirt...and maybe one of those "JList Anime Crates" when you unleash them-… https://t.co/CiZojPaRO7
L162[06:22:01] <asie> >JList
L163[06:49:10] <Inari> https://twitter.com/pjm1kbw/status/783575945315770368 wat
L164[06:49:10] <MichiBot> Wed Oct 05 02:53:58 CDT 2016 @pjm1kbw: This is utterly abhorrent and has echoes from history that I find chilling. As a lawyer and as an employer I will r… https://t.co/NfdjMtO77x
L165[06:49:14] <Inari> asie: ? :P
L166[06:51:32] <asie> Inari: well, this hits Polad
L167[06:51:34] <asie> Poland
L168[06:51:40] <asie> this hits Poland badly
L169[06:53:38] <Inari> asie: whats wrong with JLIst :D
L170[06:54:22] <asie> Inari: Terrible customer service.
L171[06:54:25] <asie> Universally hated.
L172[06:54:35] <asie> The only reason they're even relevant is that they've been funding 4chan and NyaaTorrents for a decade.
L173[06:55:07] <Inari> asie: Why hated? What would be a good alternative?
L174[06:55:30] <asie> Inari: If you want Japanese stuff, just import.
L175[06:55:38] <Inari> I do
L176[06:55:42] <asie> I import.
L177[06:55:43] <Inari> from sites taht sell it to me with an englihs interface
L178[06:55:44] <Inari> :P
L179[06:55:48] <Inari> aka JList
L180[06:56:13] <Inari> Theonly other one I know is tokyo otaku mode or what it was called
L181[06:56:17] <Inari> and their selection seem a bit limited
L182[06:56:25] <asie> eww.
L183[06:56:27] <asie> AmiAmi.
L184[06:56:32] <asie> Tokyo Otaku Mode is decent.
L185[06:56:46] <Mimiru> I've ordered from JList a few times, and never had an issue
L186[06:56:51] <asie> If you want massive selection, get a proxy and use Suruga-ya.
L187[06:56:53] <Inari> Mimiru: same
L188[06:56:57] <asie> Mostly used stuff, but good prices, free domestic shipping
L189[06:57:10] <asie> For CD/DVDs, cdjapan is good.
L190[06:57:16] <asie> And, of course, if you want fast delivery and have a deep wallet, amazon.co.jp.
L191[06:57:27] <Inari> and I do like the tweets/newsletters from jlist xD
L192[06:57:29] <asie> (Though for Europeans, cdjapan+taxes comes out more expensiv ethan amazon.co.jp, really)
L193[06:57:47] <asie> (and amazon.co.jp handles taxes themselves, so you know exactly how much you're paying on checkout)
L194[06:58:09] <Inari> Sadly amazon.co.jp isn't in english though xD
L195[06:58:42] <Inari> Not very interested in figures, so amiami doesn't seem to have a lot of interest
L196[06:58:54] <asie> What do you want?
L197[06:59:07] <asie> amazon.co.jp? item names aren't in English, but that's easy to work around
L198[06:59:09] <asie> the site has changeable languages
L199[06:59:20] <Inari> Snacks, fashion, R18 toys
L200[06:59:23] <asie> Ah.
L201[06:59:28] <asie> In that case, yes, J-List is your only option.
L202[06:59:30] <Inari> asie: if they arent in englihs, how would I search for it xD
L203[06:59:30] <asie> Except for fashion.
L204[06:59:38] <asie> For that, I highly recommend buying from the Japanese stores directly with proxies.
L205[06:59:48] <asie> Or, if you're poor, just ask some of the better Chinese stores.
L206[06:59:48] <Inari> Yeah well
L207[06:59:59] <Inari> except the issue with the language again
L208[07:00:10] <asie> https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/4789014401/ref=s9_cartx_gw_g14_i3_r?pf_rd_m=AN1VRQENFRJN5&pf_rd_s=desktop-1&pf_rd_r=2GM9M81R723TB0HYPKRW&pf_rd_t=36701&pf_rd_p=9d539fa0-72bc-4756-8b94-2163f0a38a88&pf_rd_i=desktop
L209[07:00:21] <Inari> Maybe i'll try taobao.. that seems popular with the lolita community
L210[07:00:33] <asie> Taobao requires a proxy as well.
L211[07:00:35] <asie> And language.
L212[07:00:42] <asie> And it's hit-and-miss, just like AliExpress.
L213[07:00:44] <Inari> asie: Meh, too lazy, tried multiple times but too busy with other stuff and the format I'd like isn't really available
L214[07:00:51] <asie> More hit though as Taobao is more "small creators"
L215[07:00:54] <asie> and AliExpress is more "stores"
L216[07:01:47] <Mimiru> Taobao is ran by the same company as Aliexpress, so it makes since it'd be hit and miss :p
L217[07:02:33] <asie> no? that's unrelated
L218[07:02:40] <asie> both are just frontends for various creators
L219[07:03:16] <asie> As for snacks
L220[07:03:27] <asie> I recommend CandyJapan. The original, and the owner's a good
L221[07:03:27] <Inari> And then sometimes the measurements are kind of a mess xD LIke its hard to figure out what they mean :P
L222[07:04:15] <Inari> asie: Eh, i'd rather buy what I want directly. Tahn overpay for some box where i won't like 50% of the stuff
L223[07:04:33] <Mimiru> Allowed memory size of 448790528 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 297229999 bytes)
L224[07:04:34] <Mimiru> yay
L225[07:04:39] <Skye> Why do you need to eat. Q
L226[07:04:47] <Inari> Skye: energy
L227[07:04:56] * Skye faints
L228[07:04:59] <Inari> Skye: you dont technically need to eat
L229[07:05:34] <Inari> you could be fed through a tube going into your stomach
L230[07:06:08] * Skye drinks cadburies hot chocolate
L231[07:06:16] <Inari> asie: Oh well I'll look around more :P What I'd like most is some store that does VAT/stuff properly
L232[07:06:19] <Inari> so I don't have to run to customs
L233[07:08:48] <asie> Inari: amazon.co.jp
L234[07:08:50] <asie> and amazon.co.jp *only*
L235[07:08:56] <asie> as they use DHL
L236[07:08:57] <Inari> Bleh :P
L237[07:09:01] <asie> and couriers generally handle customs themselves
L238[07:09:07] <asie> well, okay, not just amazon.co.jp
L239[07:09:16] <Inari> Nah, my JLIst was also DHl but I still ahd to run there
L240[07:09:18] <asie> but generally any store using courier services and not your regular post office
L241[07:09:21] <asie> Inari: that's weird
L242[07:09:28] <asie> at least amazon.co.jp charges customs fees upfront
L243[07:09:35] <Skye> asie: Fedex doesn't handles customs for free
L244[07:09:39] <Inari> And then tell them whats inside and opent he parcel to show them my panties!
L245[07:09:40] <Inari> :P
L246[07:09:44] <Inari> Lewd customs
L247[07:09:45] <Inari> all pervs
L248[07:09:47] <asie> Skye: DHL via Amazon.co.jp has special rates
L249[07:09:57] <asie> it's per-item, not per-weight
L250[07:10:02] <Skye> They charge you a few weeks after your packages
L251[07:10:05] <asie> 1000 JPY base fee, + 350 JPY per CD/DVD/book
L252[07:10:11] <Skye> I hate FedEx
L253[07:10:17] <asie> for mechanical keyboards it's + 2000 JPY I think?
L254[07:10:25] <asie> for obvious reasons
L255[07:11:05] <Inari> "No sellers are currently delivering this item to your selected location."
L256[07:11:07] <Inari> ;-;
L257[07:11:14] <Skye> asie: if people charge you after a delivery, it's illegal.
L258[07:11:32] <Skye> But FedEx get away with it because it's a large company
L259[07:11:33] <Inari> I should learn japanese some day and just go there :P Though that has various issues lol
L260[07:11:33] <asie> Skye: I never said FedEx
L261[07:11:45] <asie> FedEx is vastly overpriced even compared to EMS.
L262[07:12:00] <asie> The only reason you'd want to use them is when you're shipping something no other service can
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L264[07:18:29] <Skye> asie, unicomp only use FedEx
L265[07:18:48] <asie> Skye: if you're in the UK
L266[07:18:50] <asie> support The Keyboard Company
L267[07:18:53] <asie> [/thread]
L268[07:21:22] <Skye> asie: they didn't sell the 122-key with PS/2
L269[07:21:37] <asie> ask them
L270[07:22:17] <Skye> What?
L271[07:22:28] <asie> ask them
L272[07:22:46] <Skye> How was I meant to know?
L273[07:24:37] <Mimiru> I fucking HATE DHL here in the states
L274[07:24:51] <Mimiru> *EVERY* time I'veh ad something delivered with them it's taken upto 2 weeks extra
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L276[07:25:51] <Mimiru> my mom had some work paperwork overnighted to her, DHL wouldn't deliver cause it had rained that day, and since we're not close to major cities they only came our way every so often... so it was a week and a half later that we got her overnighted papers
L277[07:26:21] <Mimiru> by then FedEx had delivered another copy, overnight, and the dude stayed until mom signed the stuff she had to, and took the package back with him
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L279[07:33:17] <asie> Skye: you always ask
L280[07:33:19] <asie> it's not a bad thing to do
L281[07:34:31] <Skye> I'm... Too... Shy.
L282[07:35:57] <asie> IT'S THE INTERNET
L283[07:36:07] <asie> ask on Twitter from an anonymous account
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L285[07:46:59] <Mimiru> So.. while building this 1.8.9 pack I've found an issue in OP.. lol
L286[07:47:00] <Mimiru> yay
L287[07:48:39] <Mimiru> also yy go USPS... package was going to be delivered Saturday, got moved to today
L288[07:48:50] <Mimiru> now I can replace the headlight switch in... my truck
L289[07:48:55] <Mimiru> My.. :/
L290[07:49:05] * Mimiru sighs quietly and goes back to working on this pack
L291[07:54:35] <Skye> Ugh
L292[07:55:59] <Skye> I have a headache and my school expects me to learn anyway
L293[07:58:39] <Inari> Skye: sounds like work-life
L294[07:59:03] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsARBnvUB2E that seems cool,why have I never heard of it
L295[07:59:03] <MichiBot> Will Starshot's Insterstellar Journey Succeed? | Space Time | PBS Digital Studios | length: 12m 17s | Likes: 6,746 Dislikes: 73 Views: 274,438 | by PBS Space Time
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L298[08:04:43] <Skye> Also
L299[08:05:18] <Skye> I have found out that in the UK at least, I need to have a maths A level to do computer science in university...
L300[08:05:20] <Skye> So...
L301[08:05:38] <Skye> That's one thing I won't be able to do.
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L304[08:53:12] <scj643> Good morning everyone
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L306[08:54:20] <t20kdc> neigh!
L307[08:54:24] <t20kdc> it's quite clearly evening.
L308[09:00:05] <t20kdc> ...ok, now it's morning.
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L311[09:08:02] * Inari wonders how many games have ctrl+s as a save hotkey
L312[09:12:04] * vifino groans and snuggles Lizzy
L313[09:12:26] * Lizzy snuggles vifino and gives him a kiss
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L321[09:32:50] <Michiyo> Just love getting 403 errors from mc deps
L322[09:33:42] <Lizzy> lol
L323[09:35:25] <Michiyo> and I can't get to the forge forums from ovh either now
L324[09:35:26] <Michiyo> wtf ovh
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L328[09:36:44] <Michiyo> files.minecraftforge.com works
L329[09:36:50] <Michiyo> but minecraftforge.com doesn't
L330[09:37:00] <Michiyo> the latter doesn't respond to pings either
L331[09:37:14] <Michiyo> err net
L332[09:37:17] <Michiyo> I meant .net
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L334[09:37:30] <Michiyo> .com is scammy :/
L335[09:37:33] <Michiyo> don't click the .coms
L336[09:38:14] <Michiyo> http://puu.sh/ryAXK/63268b702b.png
L337[09:38:15] <Michiyo> umm
L338[09:39:02] <Michiyo> Oh ha...
L339[09:39:06] <Michiyo> I did it again god damn it
L340[09:39:08] <Michiyo> fuck today
L341[09:39:09] <Michiyo> I quit
L342[09:39:36] <t20kdc> .com is evil
L343[09:39:38] <t20kdc> down with .com
L344[09:39:45] <Daiyousei> munism
L345[09:39:50] <t20kdc> ???
L346[09:40:03] <Michiyo> http://puu.sh/ryB3p/7ecb9e6761.png
L347[09:40:05] <Michiyo> ok what
L348[09:40:11] <Daiyousei> rip obvious joke
L349[09:40:12] <Daiyousei> :(
L350[09:40:20] <Michiyo> so, files. is hosted on OVH as well from the trace
L351[09:40:58] <Michiyo> the base domain is too
L352[09:41:09] <Michiyo> but I can't get to their ip from this box
L353[09:41:26] <Michiyo> fucking ovh I'm willing to bet some kind of stupid fucking network quirk is the issue
L354[09:42:05] <Michiyo> and it works fine from midori.. which is on a different box
L355[09:42:13] <t20kdc> "cer-ber-us"?
L356[09:42:28] <t20kdc> why not "ce-re-brus"?
L357[09:42:46] <Michiyo> it also works from eos, which is on the same box as this vm
L358[09:42:48] <Michiyo> so why the hell
L359[09:43:03] <t20kdc> Michiyo: I think they have >1 server
L360[09:43:14] <t20kdc> Michiyo: Hence the Cerberus redirect
L361[09:43:14] <Michiyo> Yes, thank you.
L362[09:43:45] <t20kdc> Michiyo: I suggest clearing the DNS cache. ...if you have any idea how to do that. (I don't.)
L363[09:43:48] <Michiyo> Cerberus is files.minecraftforge.net hedylogos is minecraftforge.net
L364[09:44:06] <t20kdc> then why not just call cerberus minecraftforge.net
L365[09:44:08] <Michiyo> it's not a dns cache issue.. I get the same ip from this machine as I do from my local machine where it works
L366[09:44:23] <t20kdc> *call cerberus files.minecraftforge.net
L367[09:44:27] <t20kdc> why the additional subdomain?
L368[09:44:40] <Lizzy> Michiyo, what are you trying to access?
L369[09:44:53] * Lizzy hasn't been paying attention
L370[09:45:00] <Michiyo> for the same reason that I have Eos, Bast, Hekate, and Athena.. but those aren't the names of the sites that those servers host
L371[09:45:16] <Michiyo> So when you trace subdomain.pc-logix.com you end at servername.pc-logix.com
L372[09:45:25] <Michiyo> Lizzy, the forge forums atm
L373[09:45:39] <Michiyo> hedylogos is on the same ip block as I am
L374[09:45:48] <Michiyo> I'm wondering if this is some kinda OVH network quirk
L375[09:46:01] <Lizzy> possibly, janus can successfully traceroute to it
L376[09:46:03] <Michiyo> (hedylogos is the base minecraftforge.net server)
L377[09:46:15] <Michiyo> yeah I can to from Midori which is on a different block
L378[09:46:24] <Michiyo> Eos can too oddly enough though
L379[09:46:44] <t20kdc> Maybe it's to stop people from running a massive P2P cluster on OVH,
L380[09:46:56] <Lizzy> t20kdc, just shut up
L381[09:47:01] <Michiyo> .-.
L382[09:47:07] <t20kdc> :(
L383[09:47:59] <Michiyo> as can hekate
L384[09:48:06] <Michiyo> so... this means broken networking on this box
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L387[09:50:29] <Michiyo_> o_O
L388[09:50:31] *** Michiyo_ is now known as Michiyo
L389[09:50:37] zsh sets mode: +o on Michiyo
L390[09:50:51] <Michiyo> got it
L391[09:50:53] <Michiyo> ffs
L392[09:50:59] <Michiyo> god damn netmask was wrong
L393[09:51:03] <Lizzy> lol#
L394[09:51:13] <Michiyo> 255.255.0.0 instead of 255.255.255.255
L395[09:51:15] <Michiyo> fucking OVH
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L397[09:52:12] <Michiyo> but that's why I couldn't connect to it, we were on the same first 2 octets but not the last 2
L398[09:52:36] <Michiyo> still can't auth to MC though
L399[09:57:47] <Lizzy> that shouldn't have made a difference
L400[09:58:20] <Lizzy> if you had a subnet of 255.255.255.255 it would send anything that wasn't localhost to the gateway
L401[09:59:21] <Michiyo> well, switching it fixed it, it's set to the same as my *nix boxes
L402[09:59:36] <Lizzy> hmm
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L407[10:26:08] <Michiyo> Oh man... this barcode scanner makes everything SO much faster
L408[10:26:35] * Lizzy scans Michiyo with the barcode scanner
L409[10:26:50] * Michiyo rings up for $.99
L410[10:28:49] <Lizzy> Na
L411[10:29:01] <Lizzy> you're worth at least 19.99$
L412[10:29:12] <Skye> Or it could be an overflow.
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L415[10:47:55] <Antheus> lol
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L417[10:51:33] <Antheus> So, I have this poster on my wall from when the Dallas Art Museum had an exhibit on Tutankhamun including his sarcoghophagas or however you spell it
L418[10:51:46] <Antheus> circa 2008ish I think
L419[10:51:53] <Antheus> yah 2008
L420[10:52:57] <Antheus> and it's held on my wall with some thumb tack
L421[10:53:11] <Antheus> but they keep popping out from my fan blowing and it's really loud
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L423[11:00:09] <Inari> Im-Immoral!
L424[11:03:16] <Forecaster> blowing fans is immoral?
L425[11:03:21] * Forecaster just returned
L426[11:04:04] <Michiyo> Blowing Tutankhamen likely is
L427[11:05:29] <Lizzy> HOME TIME!!!!!!
L428[11:05:36] * Lizzy jumps in vifino's arms
L429[11:06:56] <Forecaster> hey! that's not where you live > . >
L430[11:07:01] <Forecaster> not yet!
L431[11:07:45] <cloakable> xD
L432[11:09:10] <Antheus> 0_0
L433[11:09:42] <Michiyo> Oh hai Antheus
L434[11:09:55] <Antheus> I also have my name written in hieroglyphics on my wall
L435[11:09:57] <Antheus> oh hai
L436[11:10:15] <Antheus> You've been visited by the rare "I'm not at school on a schoolday" antheus
L437[11:10:32] <Michiyo> :O
L438[11:10:32] <Antheus> You will have good edumacation for the rest of your life
L439[11:10:59] <Forecaster> that word, I do not know it
L440[11:11:40] <Antheus> edumacation?
L441[11:12:25] <Michiyo> %urban edumacation
L442[11:12:25] <MichiBot> Michiyo: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=edumacation - *Urban Dictionary: edumacation*: "Used to refer to an education that someone received at a crappy school, or a lack of education all together. I received my edumacation at Willits High School."
L443[11:12:29] <Michiyo> :P
L444[11:12:50] <Forecaster> ah :P
L445[11:13:48] <Antheus> lol
L446[11:14:04] <Antheus> My high school has a cricket infestation right now
L447[11:14:35] <Forecaster> that must enhance a lot of awkward silences
L448[11:14:47] <XDjackieXD> xD
L449[11:15:28] <Antheus> my sophomore year I saw a mouse fall from the ceiling
L450[11:15:33] <Antheus> had a hole in its body
L451[11:15:40] <Forecaster> that must... um
L452[11:15:41] <Antheus> with a worm crawling out
L453[11:15:44] <Forecaster> no I've got nothing
L454[11:15:45] <Forecaster> ew
L455[11:16:02] <Antheus> then one of the senior at the time stepped on it by accident
L456[11:16:03] <XDjackieXD> D:
L457[11:16:12] <Antheus> oh wow that was two years ago
L458[11:16:41] <Inari> Forecaster: Somehow "Im-moral!" isnicer than "L-lewd!"
L459[11:16:46] <Inari> er
L460[11:16:50] <Inari> Im-Immoral
L461[11:16:50] <Inari> I eman
L462[11:16:51] <Inari> :P
L463[11:16:58] <Inari> Forecaster: shut up
L464[11:17:27] <Antheus> Inari, shut up
L465[11:17:37] * Michiyo hugs barcode scanner
L466[11:17:37] <Antheus> jk
L467[11:17:42] <Forecaster> I'm surpised you didn't react to "blowing fans"
L468[11:17:43] <Forecaster> :P
L469[11:17:47] <Inari> Forecaster: :P
L470[11:18:01] <Antheus> Michiyo, shine it into your eyes, get workers comp
L471[11:18:09] <Michiyo> lel workers comp
L472[11:18:21] <Michiyo> get fired I think you mean :P
L473[11:18:28] <Elizabeth> @Mimiru it's not nice to call @Naomi barcode scanner
L474[11:18:33] <Michiyo> lmao
L475[11:18:48] <Antheus> lol
L476[11:18:49] <Elizabeth> :P
L477[11:18:55] <Michiyo> if Naomi was at work, I'd hug her too :P
L478[11:19:00] <Elizabeth> Heh
L479[11:19:03] <Michiyo> s/,/with me,/
L480[11:19:03] <MichiBot> <Michiyo> if Naomi was at workwith me, I'd hug her too :P
L481[11:19:06] <Antheus> do you still work at Radio Shack
L482[11:19:07] <Michiyo> spacing
L483[11:19:08] <Michiyo> meh
L484[11:19:10] <Michiyo> for now
L485[11:20:24] <Antheus> Radioshacks HQ is on the only major highway from my town
L486[11:20:31] <Antheus> Well, atleast the parking garage
L487[11:21:06] <Antheus> which is shared with Tarrant County College's Downtown campus
L488[11:21:11] <Antheus> I think
L489[11:21:55] <Antheus> I think there's a tiny street that is named after Radioshack
L490[11:22:02] <Antheus> but IIRC it's off of Henderson St.
L491[11:22:07] <Antheus> Which is Texas 199
L492[11:22:24] <Antheus> Which runs from downtown Ft. Worth all the way to Jacksboro
L493[11:22:44] <Antheus> and has been under construction since like 2005
L494[11:22:52] <Antheus> since they tore up part of the highway
L495[11:23:02] <Antheus> and then TxDOT lost the funding to replace the road
L496[11:23:26] <Antheus> so you have to go on and off the 40MPH service road like a million times
L497[11:23:36] <Antheus> which people keep doing 60-70MPH on
L498[11:23:42] <Antheus> including police officers
L499[11:23:54] <t20kdc> public infrastructure is amazing
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L501[11:24:50] <Antheus> IIRC some senators transportation was interrupted by the traffic caused by it and now it is supposed to start back up again in 2018
L502[11:24:58] <Antheus> and be finished by 2040
L503[11:25:21] <Antheus> TL;DR: Don't move to DFW unless you like perpetual construction
L504[11:25:43] <Antheus> also fuck I35. Both East and West
L505[11:25:53] <t20kdc> people... only fixing what bothers them
L506[11:25:53] <Antheus> that is just BS in its own right
L507[11:26:18] <Antheus> they have signs up around the metroplex saying "Someday you'll love I35"
L508[11:26:27] <Antheus> but like, no
L509[11:26:35] <Antheus> also they're putting stupid express toll lanes in
L510[11:26:37] <t20kdc> trust me, you will
L511[11:26:43] <t20kdc> they'll make you
L512[11:26:54] <t20kdc> ...probably by making every other road under construction
L513[11:26:58] <Antheus> also DFW's highways look like a penis
L514[11:27:10] <DFrostedWang> Thanks, I try
L515[11:27:32] <t20kdc> ...
L516[11:27:37] <Inari> DFW?
L517[11:27:42] <Antheus> http://i.imgur.com/KWsgM.jpg
L518[11:27:47] <Antheus> Dallas/Fort Worth
L519[11:27:50] <Inari> lol
L520[11:28:04] <Antheus> With Arlington shoved in the middle
L521[11:28:13] <Inari> People will try hard to see penises in everything I see
L522[11:28:34] <Antheus> Well, this actually looks like one
L523[11:28:35] <t20kdc> Everything?
L524[11:28:57] <Antheus> Oh, if you ever come to DFW, Avoid 820 North at all costs
L525[11:28:58] <t20kdc> ....I think I just figured out a plan to ban cute ribbons permanently.
L526[11:29:10] <Inari> Antheus: slightly, excluding the things that dont, and in a drawing that emphasises it
L527[11:29:23] <Inari> http://www.texasfreeway.com/dallas/photos/114/images/114_location_map.gif looks like nothing
L528[11:29:41] <Antheus> OOh, 114 is nice
L529[11:29:52] <Forecaster> t20kdc: why?
L530[11:29:59] <Inari> t20kdc: But cute ribbons are cute D:
L531[11:30:03] <Antheus> except for the part where it goes from 6 lanes to two lanes and goes under a railway bridge
L532[11:30:35] <Antheus> I could talk all day about the roads in DFW
L533[11:30:41] <Antheus> because that's the only way to get around .-.
L534[11:31:00] <t20kdc> Antheus: Flatten yourself, then send yourself via the mail system?
L535[11:31:09] <Antheus> too much effort
L536[11:31:21] <Antheus> also DFW is pretty damn nice
L537[11:31:43] <t20kdc> ...weren't you just practically shaking your fist at their roads?
L538[11:32:15] <Antheus> We have TMS, AA Center, AT&T Stadium, Six Flags Over Texas, Whatever the stadium the Texas Rangers play at is, DFW Int. Airport, umm.
L539[11:32:19] <asie> t20kdc: Why would you ban cute ribbons.
L540[11:32:24] <Antheus> Texas State fair
L541[11:32:32] <Antheus> Ft. Worth Stock yards
L542[11:32:57] <Antheus> cheap housing
L543[11:33:01] <Antheus> lots of jobs
L544[11:33:44] <t20kdc> asie: Because banning uncute ribbons achieves nothing?
L545[11:33:58] <asie> t20kdc: Exactly.
L546[11:34:07] <asie> Banning cute ribbons would contribute to my depression.
L547[11:34:09] * Inari tries cute ribbons onto t20kdc all over
L548[11:34:10] <asie> Please do not ban cute ribbons.
L549[11:34:19] <Inari> *ties
L550[11:34:20] <Inari> ¬_¬
L551[11:34:31] <t20kdc> okay hakase
L552[11:34:36] <Inari> My fingers don't finger well today
L553[11:34:44] * t20kdc destroys all plans to ban cute ribbons.
L554[11:35:01] <Inari> <3 Ribbons
L555[11:35:04] * t20kdc begins working on plans to ban something else cute but minor.
L556[11:35:15] <Forecaster> Inari: lewd
L557[11:35:17] <Inari> t20kdc: incest?
L558[11:35:38] <t20kdc> Inari: what
L559[11:35:52] <Inari> imoutos gazing at their nii's can be pretty cute~
L560[11:35:55] <Inari> *niis
L561[11:36:21] <t20kdc> ...I think I'll just stick to banning cats on the basis that they generally don't wear clothes.
L562[11:36:52] <t20kdc> Huh. That voice sounded like a bunch of people screaming, and then being silenced. Not sure what that means...
L563[11:38:26] * t20kdc mumbles something about how it's annoyingly hard to be evil these days
L564[11:40:18] <Antheus> same
L565[11:51:03] <CompanionCube> t20kdc: just do a prank such as applying clingfilm to toilet seat
L566[11:51:35] <t20kdc> that... oh goodness NO...
L567[11:51:41] <t20kdc> just NO NO NO...
L568[11:52:05] <CompanionCube> why? :3
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L572[12:37:10] <Inari> Hm
L573[12:37:16] <Inari> I just had a thougth that interests me
L574[12:37:31] <Forecaster> ohmy
L575[12:37:42] <Inari> if everything is basically excitations in quantum fields, then what do conductors represent in those for electricity
L576[12:38:41] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lmmn14ZRu-M ~
L577[12:38:42] <MichiBot> Ladies versus Butlers! OP ( れでぃ×ばと!) Love x Heaven | length: 1m 31s | Likes: 31 Dislikes: 1 Views: 6,185 | by TrueHDanimes
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L580[12:53:25] <Michiyo> So... I got the new headlight switch for the truck
L581[12:53:29] <Michiyo> and it didn't fix anything ._.
L582[12:54:44] <Michiyo> now I'm back to the drawing board. Break lights work, blinker works, but no tail lights. Dash cluster lights don't work
L583[12:55:05] <Forecaster> broken fuse?
L584[12:55:42] <Michiyo> nope, I've pulled every fuse you can they're all fine
L585[12:55:57] <Inari> What do cars and coins have in common that I envy?
L586[12:56:14] <Forecaster> you can flip them?
L587[12:56:38] <Inari> I can be flipped, so not sure why I would be envious of that
L588[12:57:57] <Forecaster> they roll?
L589[12:58:04] <Inari> :| Non
L590[12:58:27] <t20kdc> they both begin with the letter 'c'?
L591[12:58:40] <Inari> No D:
L592[12:58:43] <Inari> They both have tails
L593[12:59:25] <t20kdc> why did the javascript developer hide their library, called "otaur", in a labyrinth?
L594[12:59:41] <Inari> To minify it?
L595[12:59:49] <t20kdc> Inari++.
L596[12:59:56] <t20kdc> (min.otaur.js)
L597[13:00:03] <Temia> moo? o3o
L598[13:00:06] * Inari hands Temia a javascript library
L599[13:00:23] * Temia turns around and throws it into the fireplace.
L600[13:00:27] <Michiyo> my next step is pulling the fuse panel out of the truck and checking for issues there
L601[13:00:27] <Inari> D:
L602[13:00:43] <Temia> No JS please. D:
L603[13:00:57] <Inari> Temia: PHP?
L604[13:01:14] <Temia> ...
L605[13:01:20] * cloakable hands Temia a mug of coffee
L606[13:01:33] * Inari mugs Temia's coffee mug
L607[13:01:39] * Temia is distracted by coff--
L608[13:01:41] * Lizzy takes Temia's axe, sharpens it and hands it back to Temia
L609[13:01:57] * Temia slugs Inari with her mug, goes back to drinking from it
L610[13:01:59] <cloakable> Moo.
L611[13:02:00] <Inari> D:
L612[13:02:16] * Inari fills some coffee into Temia's spraybottle and sprays it at her :|
L613[13:02:16] <Temia> Do NOT take away my coffee
L614[13:02:29] * Temia ahhh. =w=
L615[13:02:39] <Inari> http://i.imgur.com/uuWBVdo.gif ~
L616[13:11:21] <Lizzy> I was gonna be playing Factorio tonight, but now i'm configuring laptops for my mother to use at scouts
L617[13:11:44] <Inari> scouts?
L618[13:12:03] <Lizzy> yeah, doing their Digital Citizens Badge
L619[13:12:10] <Inari> Uhhhh
L620[13:12:11] <Inari> okay
L621[13:12:31] <Inari> Put some lewd image onto it that will randomly pop up andt hen delete itself wihtout evidence
L622[13:12:31] <t20kdc> is there a "broke into scouts servers and added new badge" badge?
L623[13:13:24] <Forecaster> "Digital Citizens" sounds like it involves entering the Grid
L624[13:14:00] <t20kdc> "The Grid. A digital frontier..."
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L627[13:26:19] <Inari> ¬_¬
L628[13:26:34] <Inari> Every MMO/Online game forum on steam: "Does it have singleplayer?" "add singleplayer please"
L629[13:26:42] <Inari> Every Singlepalyer game forum on steam: "Multiplayer pls"
L630[13:27:52] <t20kdc> every?
L631[13:28:01] <Michiyo> my uptime monitor: http://puu.sh/ryNHN/d59261c536.png
L632[13:28:01] <t20kdc> Cave Story+ Multiplayer?
L633[13:28:06] <Michiyo> Oops.
L634[13:28:52] <Inari> http://steamcommunity.com/app/200900/discussions/search/?q=multiplayer&gidforum=864943421894614765&include_deleted=1
L635[13:30:02] <Forecaster> I don't find this surprising
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L637[13:37:57] <Forecaster> Michiyo: you had a timeout for 1.8k hours? :P
L638[13:38:10] <Michiyo> Yep... lol
L639[13:38:19] <Michiyo> changed domains .tk → .com
L640[13:38:39] <Michiyo> forgot to update the downtime monitor lol
L641[13:38:52] <Forecaster> :P
L642[13:38:56] <Forecaster> oops indeed
L643[13:39:19] <Michiyo> 0.03% (last 30 days)
L644[13:39:20] <Michiyo> lmao
L645[13:39:28] <Michiyo> I might need to reset those stats
L646[13:39:34] <Forecaster> yeah
L647[13:39:44] <Forecaster> gonna take a while to get back up to 99% otherwise
L648[13:39:53] <Forecaster> :P
L649[13:41:58] <scj643> Any way to tell what rendering api a program is using
L650[13:43:05] <t20kdc> scj643: take a guess, and delete that API
L651[13:43:12] <t20kdc> if the program is still working, then it's not that one
L652[13:43:22] <scj643> Kinda not possible :P
L653[13:43:27] <t20kdc> ...Well, you could always make it not work
L654[13:43:46] <scj643> I wish i could freaking wrap any app to exclusive fullscreen
L655[13:44:32] <CompanionCube> scj643: what OS?
L656[13:44:42] <scj643> windows
L657[13:45:25] <scj643> The reason I want any app in exclusive mode is because #1 unity is a fuck up and no unity 5 game using dx11 or opengl can be exclusive fullscreen or else it will crash wehn alt tabed
L658[13:45:37] <scj643> And #2 devs are just getting lazy
L659[13:46:00] <t20kdc> what about dx9
L660[13:46:11] <scj643> that can be exclusive on unity iirc
L661[13:46:24] <t20kdc> phew
L662[13:47:29] <t20kdc> step 1.
L663[13:47:34] <t20kdc> uninstall dx11.
L664[13:47:39] <t20kdc> step 2. exclusive mode achieved!
L665[13:47:46] <scj643> t20kdc: not that simple
L666[13:48:04] <t20kdc> what, you can't uninstall APIs now?
L667[13:48:13] <scj643> you can but then the game won't run
L668[13:48:16] <Temia> Speaking of which, I still need to find some time to focus and experiment with Godot.
L669[13:48:34] <scj643> the reason for this is that my gtx 960m has diagonal tearing in borderless windowed mode
L670[13:48:43] <scj643> directx 12 games don't have this issue
L671[13:48:53] <scj643> Atleast halo 5 forge doesn't
L672[13:49:30] <t20kdc> Temia: Do so as soon as possible! (also note shadow algorithm adjustment settings are split between the light's settings and some global project settings.)
L673[13:49:50] <Temia> A fan of the engine, I take it :p
L674[13:50:18] <t20kdc> Well, I've become a little bored of the slow Unity-ization of the entire universe, it's nice to see a competitor which can actually compete and isn't, uh, Game Maker.
L675[13:50:25] <Temia> A friend of mine who was considering doing music for one of my future shmups recommended it, and it might be a good fit for one of my projects, so.
L676[13:50:27] <Temia> Ah.
L677[13:50:32] <Temia> Fair enough, fair enough.
L678[13:51:06] <Temia> Up until Godot, I've been resisting pre-existing frameworks altogether.
L679[13:51:08] <scj643> I hate unity with a pasion
L680[13:51:15] <Temia> And... yeah, that
L681[13:51:23] <Temia> Unity always rubbed me the wrong way.
L682[13:51:35] <scj643> They still can't fix the bug where if a game is in exclusive mode and you alt tab it crashes
L683[13:52:06] <scj643> They also assume that the majority of people are on higher end gaming desktops with proper gpus
L684[13:52:24] <Temia> I always preferred working out the algorithms involved myself, and it gave me a chance to experiment with all sorts of language features as I worked from the ground up.
L685[13:52:27] <t20kdc> scj643: Wait, really?
L686[13:52:28] <scj643> fucking over anyone with a non 10xx mobile gpu that has a shared buffer setup with an intigrated card
L687[13:52:57] <t20kdc> scj643: Is this Unity 5?
L688[13:53:04] <scj643> Yep
L689[13:53:10] <t20kdc> scj643: Ah. In which case, fuck unity 5.
L690[13:53:14] <scj643> Unturned is on unity 5 so is cities skylines
L691[13:53:46] <t20kdc> scj643: The wide range of support is the saving grace of Unity, if only because it means I can copy linux binaries from one game into a Windows copy of another...
L692[13:54:22] <scj643> source has wide support
L693[13:54:34] <t20kdc> Source and Torque3D have inherent ties to FPSes
L694[13:54:41] <scj643> Damn
L695[13:54:46] <t20kdc> Not too big ties
L696[13:55:04] <scj643> Also a dev can't have exclusive fullscreen and fullscreen borderless in one build
L697[13:55:09] <t20kdc> I mean, Marble Blast Gold on Torque3D and a bunch of Garry's Mod stuff proves it's pretty versatile if you do things right
L698[13:55:16] <scj643> it's one or the other
L699[13:56:18] <t20kdc> You know, a random audio feed just said "But... that doesn't make any sense!". Spooky.
L700[14:08:25] <t20kdc> Additional note. If you want an idea of how NOT to build a game with Godot, look at their "Platformer 3D" example. It's missing any form of occulsion culling.
L701[14:10:31] <t20kdc> And they're using dynamic lighting for everything on the planet...
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L703[14:14:52] <S3> Hey
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L706[14:18:33] zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L707[14:21:01] <Temia> Ick.
L708[14:21:07] <Temia> I will keep that in mind >_>
L709[14:22:16] <Temia> My projected admittedly called for a rather nostalgic PS1 look, so I probably wouldn't run into the same pitfalls to begin with, but yeah, definitely should watch out for that.
L710[14:22:38] <Temia> Maybe my first practice run be optimising and benchmarking the example's code <.<
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L713[14:43:05] <t20kdc> eh, it's not so much the code in the example as dynamic lighting on an entire - and not exactly efficient - map...
L714[14:44:22] <t20kdc> for some reason, the people behind Godot had an amazing idea, called "GridMap", which lets you arrange mesh instances, with only one collision shape (though that can be a convex/concave mesh), in a grid.
L715[14:44:52] <Vexatos> That ping
L716[14:44:53] <Vexatos> wow
L717[14:45:09] <Vexatos> %tell Kodos no chance.
L718[14:45:09] <MichiBot> Vexatos: Kodos will be notified of this message when next seen.
L719[14:45:42] <t20kdc> ...am I missing some convext here?
L720[14:46:02] <Vexatos> D:<
L721[14:46:02] <gamax92> Yes
L722[14:46:26] <t20kdc> Ah. So basically, I can't talk about the opposite-to-concave, since it will annoy VTS.
L723[14:46:34] <t20kdc> Noted in future.
L724[14:47:20] <Vexatos> I am actually convex
L725[14:47:33] <ping> Vexatos, w0t
L726[14:47:49] <Vexatos> t20kdc, talks about optics are so rare I don't mind :P+
L727[14:48:01] <t20kdc> I wasn't talking about optics!
L728[14:48:05] <t20kdc> I was talking about collision :)
L729[14:51:49] <Vexatos> Do I know you? :U
L730[14:52:17] <gamax92> r/catsstandingup
L731[14:52:20] <gamax92> Cat.
L732[14:55:49] <t20kdc> Vexatos: Well, I don't believe I know you, so if you know me, then that must mean...
L733[14:55:56] <t20kdc> ...you've been observing my logs, somehow!
L734[14:56:05] <t20kdc> .killall -KILL sftp-server
L735[14:56:15] <t20kdc> Aha! Your access to my logs has been thwarted!
L736[14:56:42] <Vexatos> Jokes on you! I already saved them all
L737[14:56:45] <Vexatos> Mwahahahaha
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L739[14:57:58] <t20kdc> e... even the... even the...
L740[14:58:22] <Vexatos> Yes.
L741[14:58:31] <Vexatos> Cannot be unseen
L742[14:58:37] <t20kdc> ...even the ones describing A/V data files 1 through 52 of the archives on magic?
L743[14:58:58] <Vexatos> I assume the NSA is on me now
L744[14:58:59] <Vexatos> but okay
L745[14:59:03] <t20kdc> ...Jokes on you. It only goes through files 1 to 50.
L746[14:59:17] <t20kdc> I'll be watching A/V files 51 and 52 tonight!
L747[14:59:56] <Vexatos> Whatever those are
L748[15:00:26] <GreaseMonkey> [08:22:34] <Temia> My projected admittedly called for a rather nostalgic PS1 look, so I probably wouldn't run into the same pitfalls to begin with, but yeah, definitely should watch out for that. <-- if you can enforce the right limits and skip some of the other limits you can save yourself a lot of pain
L749[15:00:38] <GreaseMonkey> first one of course, skip the texture warping
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L751[15:00:44] <t20kdc> nooooo
L752[15:00:51] <t20kdc> texture warping is a required attribute of any true PS1 game
L753[15:00:58] <GreaseMonkey> ever played ape escape
L754[15:01:06] <t20kdc> no
L755[15:01:10] <GreaseMonkey> it does a stellar job of making you believe the PS1 never had texture warping
L756[15:01:20] <Inari> Forecaster: http://store.steampowered.com/app/504210/ seems interesting
L757[15:01:39] <GreaseMonkey> but yeah the way you deal with texwarping is really quite tricky to replicate on the GPU
L758[15:01:57] <GreaseMonkey> i'd suggest capping the poly count at about 800 per frame
L759[15:01:58] <t20kdc> Inari: wow, I didn't even know they made a graph version of TIS-100
L760[15:02:08] <Forecaster> Inari: I linked that like a week ago :P
L761[15:02:17] <Inari> Forecaster: D: When!
L762[15:02:19] <GreaseMonkey> 20 hours to go for that
L763[15:03:18] <GreaseMonkey> "Write code in a compact and powerful assembly language where every instruction can be conditionally executed." ARM called
L764[15:03:19] <t20kdc> So, ~5PM?
L765[15:03:43] <t20kdc> GreaseMonkey: the full size screenshots are...
L766[15:03:44] <t20kdc> telling
L767[15:03:50] <Inari> "Decipher chinese datasheets for knock-off components"
L768[15:03:58] <t20kdc> Inari: Wow, really?
L769[15:04:01] <Inari> No
L770[15:04:02] <Inari> :p
L771[15:04:06] <t20kdc> ~.~
L772[15:04:08] <Inari> Well maybe/
L773[15:04:09] <t20kdc> whyyyyy
L774[15:04:16] <GreaseMonkey> ah righty
L775[15:04:27] <GreaseMonkey> anyhow it looks more thumby than army
L776[15:04:28] <Inari> That screenshot has a random chinese page in it XD http://akari.in/pinky_2iZWA
L777[15:05:20] <GreaseMonkey> Temia: anyway, if they're looking for the "nostalgic PS1 look", use vertex lighting and ban per-fragment lighting and shadowmaps
L778[15:05:20] <Inari> Oh
L779[15:05:25] <Inari> I was being all
L780[15:05:29] <GreaseMonkey> well ok, dynamic shadow maps
L781[15:05:30] <Inari> "hmm i dont know, seems like it could be crap"
L782[15:05:36] <Inari> then I see: "Dev: Zachtronics"
L783[15:05:38] <Inari> Oh
L784[15:05:38] <Inari> :p
L785[15:05:39] <Forecaster> Inari: 2016-09-13.23:59 then
L786[15:05:42] <Forecaster> :P
L787[15:05:44] <t20kdc> "XBus Output"...
L788[15:05:51] <Forecaster> my timezone of course
L789[15:05:53] <Inari> So gonna buy the hack out fo that one
L790[15:05:56] <Forecaster> %oclogs
L791[15:05:57] <MichiBot> Forecaster: https://oclogs.pc-logix.com/
L792[15:06:05] <Temia> Yeah, no, texture warping was never good for aesthetics :P
L793[15:06:11] <GreaseMonkey> texture size limit is 64x64 for 4bpp textures and you will most likely be using 64x64 for 4bpp textures
L794[15:06:34] <GreaseMonkey> as much as you may be able to do a shadow map it'll look like arse esp. factoring in the tex size limit
L795[15:06:55] <Temia> Haha, yeah. No shadow maps.
L796[15:06:57] <GreaseMonkey> multitexturing is totally ok though but your ops are half-blend, add, and subtract
L797[15:07:02] <Temia> Artistic shadows only.
L798[15:07:14] <Forecaster> Inari: https://oclogs.pc-logix.com/parser?log=2016-09-13.log at 13:04
L799[15:07:16] <Forecaster> :>
L800[15:07:16] <GreaseMonkey> you can totally do baked AO though
L801[15:07:30] <Inari> Forecaster: well of courseI miss that
L802[15:07:30] <t20kdc> bake all the things
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L804[15:07:55] <Inari> Forecaster: "@inari" doesnt do anything for me
L805[15:07:55] <Inari> :P
L806[15:08:03] <Forecaster> not my fault
L807[15:08:09] <Inari> its not IRc convention
L808[15:08:13] <Inari> and I'm not on discord
L809[15:08:19] <GreaseMonkey> it's dicksword that does that
L810[15:09:12] <Inari> Forecaster: not quite a week ago btw
L811[15:09:13] <Inari> xD
L812[15:09:22] <Temia> Anyway, all that stuff would probably be discussed with the artist(s) once some are on board anyway.
L813[15:09:46] <t20kdc> Oh, don't forget! Nearest-neighbor.
L814[15:09:57] <Forecaster> I get picked even if my name has a prefix
L815[15:10:01] * Forecaster shrugs
L816[15:10:02] * t20kdc hugs a nearest-neighbor-filtered cushion
L817[15:10:04] <Inari> define:nearest neighbour
L818[15:10:12] <Inari> "A proposed system for how to choose who to marry"
L819[15:10:13] <Forecaster> pinged*
L820[15:10:19] <t20kdc> Inari: why Minecraft textures aren't blurry
L821[15:10:24] <Temia> I'm just happy I have a potential option for platform in Godot so I don't have to work blind in trying to set up a 3D rendering system that'll work with potential future artists' needs
L822[15:10:45] <t20kdc> Temia: A liitttle warning on that
L823[15:10:51] <Temia> Yeah?
L824[15:10:59] <t20kdc> Temia: you have a total of two ways to get 3D data into Godot
L825[15:11:01] <t20kdc> .obj format
L826[15:11:04] <t20kdc> and .dae format
L827[15:11:11] <t20kdc> (Collada)
L828[15:11:14] <Inari> I thoguth thatare the standard formats :P
L829[15:11:19] <t20kdc> Yes.
L830[15:11:25] <Forecaster> on irc.
L831[15:11:27] <Lizzy> "unable to continue, ask your admin for help" I AM THE ADMIN :@ :@ :@ :@ :@ :@ :@
L832[15:11:33] <Forecaster> so screw standards
L833[15:11:37] <t20kdc> But the .dae files are imported as scenes
L834[15:11:40] * Lizzy screams
L835[15:11:42] <t20kdc> not as meshes
L836[15:11:48] * Temia cringes
L837[15:11:54] <Forecaster> Lizzy: contact your admin-admin
L838[15:11:54] <Temia> Okay, that might make things a bit tense.
L839[15:12:08] <t20kdc> But don't worry! You can just import the scene as a child scene.
L840[15:12:10] <t20kdc> It's got instancing.
L841[15:12:31] <t20kdc> But it's kind of annoying if you make an adjustment to that scene then modify the DAE,
L842[15:12:36] <Temia> On the plus side, Godot is open-source -- it should be possible to just write new loaders as needed with the benefit of knowing what I'm targeting on each side, should it come to that
L843[15:13:18] <t20kdc> since you may lose changes to stuff in the DAE.
L844[15:13:29] <Inari> Lizzy: ask yourself
L845[15:13:41] <Inari> Forecaster: I was talking about dae/obj ;-;
L846[15:13:41] <Temia> As opposed to having no friends in the 3D modelling scene and trying to figure out what formats to target without any idea of where to look, on top of all the other fun issues with implementing 3D rendering blind :P
L847[15:14:05] <t20kdc> (That is, you replace the old DAE with the new DAE, it gets imported into a scene, and suddenly you might lose tweaks you've made from the Godot side.)
L848[15:14:30] <Forecaster> standards/convention, whatever
L849[15:14:35] <t20kdc> (Potentially consider building an autoinjector script outside of the DAE-Scene, so that re-import doesn't mean more work.)
L850[15:14:41] <t20kdc> (But don't rely on that.)
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L852[15:15:28] <Temia> Yeah, wow.
L853[15:15:34] <Temia> I will definitely keep that in mind.
L854[15:16:17] <t20kdc> The advantage to OBJ files is that they don't carry an outer scene anyway, so you can just put them into a scene, do whatever you want, and instance that into your level-scene.
L855[15:16:25] <t20kdc> But the disadvantage is they're pretty much raw meshes.
L856[15:16:57] <GreaseMonkey> i'm wondering how you'd implement the order table in the GPU, and so far it seems you'd need GL 4.2 or 4.3 to pull it off in the method i'm thinking of if you don't want to delegate it all to the CPU
L857[15:17:07] <GreaseMonkey> however there's a nifty cheat if you're allowed to use geom shaders (3.2)
L858[15:17:51] <GreaseMonkey> or if you can define your own aux vertex attribs you can define the middle of a tri or quad and then it'd work with GL 2.0
L859[15:18:14] <t20kdc> GreaseMonkey: I'm always a fan of "lower == more people can run it == better"
L860[15:18:31] * Temia nods.
L861[15:18:52] <Temia> Yeah, probably why I won't be targeting Godot 3 if it doesn't offer an GLES2 compatibility mode.
L862[15:19:08] <GreaseMonkey> this trick should work with GLES2 as well
L863[15:19:30] <t20kdc> Is Godot 3 even a thing yet?
L864[15:19:31] <Temia> I know, just in response to t20kdc's remarks
L865[15:19:34] <Temia> Not yet.
L866[15:20:10] <GreaseMonkey> but yeah these days i basically require either GL 2.1 or GLES 2 at the bare min, i prefer being able to use GL core 3.2 though at the very least
L867[15:20:19] <GreaseMonkey> just because of geometry shaders
L868[15:20:27] <Lizzy> okay what the fuck
L869[15:20:42] <Lizzy> not even the local administrator account can change the time
L870[15:20:43] <Lizzy> .....
L871[15:21:12] <t20kdc> .....
L872[15:21:43] <t20kdc> .....set music player system to "*Mute - Rescue"?
L873[15:22:00] <t20kdc> (...hmm, one second of error either way.)
L874[15:22:37] <t20kdc> (Uh, this is the part where you figure out a plan, right?)
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L878[16:00:45] <S3> compiling a gui
L879[16:04:35] <S3> wat
L880[16:15:48] * Lizzy calls it enough and decides to curl up on vifino and fall asleep
L881[16:16:15] * vifino pets Lizzy
L882[16:18:06] <S3> using FreeBSD 11
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L886[16:49:50] <qws-user-1228> hey, does OC impose a file descriptor limit?
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L889[16:50:14] <qws-user-1228> Recently had a fiasco with another mod leaking file descriptors, eventually filling up the entire OS file descriptor limit
L890[16:50:23] <qws-user-1228> which causes all sorts of serious issues
L891[16:51:13] <qws-user-1228> Local to the minecraft server: Chunk corruption, loss of entire chunks, server unable to load chunks at all, server unable to load player data, server unable to save player data, player data corruption, anything that involves IO essentially failing
L892[16:51:43] <qws-user-1228> Not local to the MC server: TCP connections unable to be created (on Linux), driver failures, any IO essentially failing
L893[16:51:58] <qws-user-1228> Very annoying and very serious issue
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L895[16:58:27] <CompanionCube> https://twitter.com/davidjwbailey/status/783581667587923968
L896[16:58:27] <MichiBot> Wed Oct 05 03:16:42 CDT 2016 @davidjwbailey: @NicolaSturgeon no, it is a National Front government (this leaflet from 1970) https://t.co/vzgxuj7egE
L897[16:58:38] <CompanionCube> that leaflet is something someone needs to show Trump
L898[16:58:43] <CompanionCube> would result in much lulz
L899[17:19:44] <gamax92> https://i.imgur.com/ZMBhPmS.gifv
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L901[18:40:16] <CompanionCube> so, one of our units has using an IDE as an explicit requirements. I could totally imagine vim users disliking that one :p
L902[18:40:23] <CompanionCube> luckily I am not one of them
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L954[20:29:53] <Antheus> %weather Fort Worth
L955[20:30:09] * Antheus slaps MichiBot
L956[20:30:20] <Antheus> %weather Dallas
L957[20:30:23] <MichiBot> Current weather for Dallas, United States of America Current Temp: 86°F/30°C Feels Like: 91°F/33°C Current Humidity: 59 Wind: From the SE 14 Mph/22 Km/h Conditions: Partly cloudy
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L967[21:46:03] <Izaya> Antheus: seems nice
L968[21:49:46] <Antheus> it is
L969[21:52:08] <Antheus> Can't wait for winter
L970[21:52:19] <Antheus> Love temps in the uppers 30s-low 50s
L971[21:52:49] <Antheus> maybe some upper 20s and low 30s with some snow
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L979[23:23:41] <Kodos> Bleh
L980[23:24:18] <Kodos> Well, that settles that then
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