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L9[00:36:06] <payonel> Forecaster: moondancer left, but using pcall around code will catch exceptions, such as the one thrown by hard interrupts (alt+ctrl+c)
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L59[04:07:27] * Ember_Primrose yawns
L60[04:07:35] <Ember_Primrose> Hello everybody
L61[04:14:06] <Ember_Primrose> haha lol, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksrp5l7be_k
L62[04:14:06] <MichiBot> Ahri-chan | length: 3m 23s | Likes: 3425 Dislikes: 91 Views: 240796 | by SunnySplosion
L63[04:14:23] <greaser|btm> Sangar: is "OpenSystems" or "OpenHardware" a good eventual name for "OC2" or is that a bit vague
L64[04:17:41] <Sangar> maybe. current internal wip name is Ciruity :P
L65[04:18:20] <greaser|btm> circuity or circuitry?
L66[04:18:31] <greaser|btm> or actually ciruity
L67[04:18:37] <Sangar> actually without the r ;)
L68[04:18:59] <greaser|btm> righty
L69[04:19:03] <greaser|btm> so circuity or cicuity?
L70[04:19:16] <Sangar> ok, without the latter r :X
L71[04:19:24] <Sangar> dammit
L72[04:19:26] <Sangar> circuity
L73[04:19:30] <greaser|btm> sweet
L74[04:19:33] <Sangar> didn't even see i misspelled :X
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L77[04:27:35] <Ember_Primrose> +a
L78[04:27:53] <Ember_Primrose> #commands
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L80[04:28:31] <Kodos> wat
L81[04:28:32] <Kodos> +a
L82[04:28:37] <Kodos> I don't even
L83[04:29:09] <Ember_Primrose> dunno how to set status away ins discord
L84[04:30:00] <Kodos> Well for one, you should probably type in discord
L85[04:30:36] <Ember_Primrose> i know, highlighted wrong window
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L87[04:43:20] <Forecaster> payonel: ah, I'm not familiar with pcall
L88[04:43:47] <Ember_Primrose> ohai
L89[04:43:49] <Ember_Primrose> o/
L90[04:44:24] <greaser|btm> pcall(f, ...) -> calls f(...), if successful returns true, f(...); if error happens returns false, error_message
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L93[04:55:17] <Inari> payonel: http://imgur.com/gallery/HwsFbqG
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L95[04:56:20] <Forecaster> aw, I was going to post that!
L96[05:00:41] <Inari> iron bacteria~
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L98[05:01:28] <Forecaster> the most metal of bacteria?
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L101[05:05:24] <Ember_Primrose> i still cant figure why i get that error msg
L102[05:05:46] <Forecaster> the one you posted yesterday?
L103[05:05:57] <Inari> Forecaster: hehe
L104[05:06:02] <Ember_Primrose> yea
L105[05:06:10] * Ember_Primrose glomps Inari
L106[05:06:15] <Forecaster> well, it can't find a file...
L107[05:06:18] <Forecaster> I dunno which though
L108[05:06:26] <Forecaster> you'll probably want to ask the author of that mod
L109[05:06:28] <Ember_Primrose> random everytime
L110[05:06:48] <Ember_Primrose> i disabled armourers workshop for now
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L112[05:07:13] <Ember_Primrose> oh and morning, corded is idle again
L113[05:07:25] <Ember_Primrose> receiving but too lazy ro send
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L115[05:10:05] <Forecaster> Michiyo: corder broked again
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L117[05:10:24] <Forecaster> corded*
L118[05:10:44] <Ember_Primrose> Forecaster, corded broker again
L119[05:23:54] <Forecaster> dammit corded! now is not the time to play the stock market! D:<
L120[05:24:39] <Ember_Primrose> :D
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L123[05:44:26] <Lizzy> Forecaster, for future reference (in case anyone else comes asking) component.get will only expand component UUIDs that are local to that machine, it doesn't know what other machines have
L124[05:44:46] <Ember_Primrose> o/ Lizzy
L125[05:44:47] <Forecaster> I know
L126[05:45:24] <Forecaster> he knew that too I think, he just hoped that somehow the relay would defy it's description and allow this component connection for some reason...
L127[05:46:13] <Forecaster> this one* component connection
L128[05:50:30] <Inari> Ember_Primrose: ohai
L129[05:50:41] * Skye pokes Ember_Primrose and Inari
L130[05:50:41] <Ember_Primrose> :O
L131[05:50:46] <Ember_Primrose> o/
L132[05:50:51] * Inari pokes Skye?
L133[05:51:02] <Skye> hai
L134[05:51:13] <Lizzy> also
L135[05:51:20] * Lizzy groans as she awakens
L136[05:53:14] * Skye gives Lizzy some coffee
L137[05:53:23] * Lizzy sips
L138[05:53:23] <Inari> whys oreo so tasty
L139[05:54:40] <Ember_Primrose> cuz, cookies and milk
L140[05:56:14] <Skye> I have a pint of milk in my breakfast. Is that stupid?
L141[05:57:12] <Ember_Primrose> no
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L144[06:02:50] <Inari> Ember_Primrose: i dont even eat them with milk
L145[06:03:05] <Ember_Primrose> me neither :D
L146[06:03:18] <Inari> then how does cookies with milk make sense of rhtem being tasty D:
L147[06:04:39] * Lizzy wants cookies now :(
L148[06:05:05] * Ember_Primrose sends Lizzy all her browsers cookies
L149[06:05:11] <Ember_Primrose> :P
L150[06:05:38] <Ember_Primrose> Inari, (put i dunno GIF her)
L151[06:06:18] <Forecaster> probably has something to do with sugar :P
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L153[06:12:28] <Hyst> http://puu.sh/qkI6v/a1d9520427.jpg :3
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L157[06:23:39] <Lizzy> #dns MX i0i0.me
L158[06:23:39] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 1 manos.i0i0.me.
L159[06:23:51] <Lizzy> now why can't thunderbird use that ¬_¬
L160[06:30:21] * vifino groans and snuggles Lizzy
L161[06:30:30] * Lizzy snuggles vifino
L162[06:30:43] * Lizzy is checked in for her flight out
L163[06:31:18] <vifino> :3
L164[06:31:48] <Lizzy> grr, thunderbird y u no work on pc?
L165[06:33:35] <Lizzy> ermm
L166[06:33:37] <Lizzy> k then
L167[06:34:05] <Lizzy> altGr+e spanned my displays buy the looks of it
L168[06:34:27] <Lizzy> yeah
L169[06:34:35] <Lizzy> and it didn't ask me to close chrome or steam
L170[06:34:37] <Lizzy> wtf?
L171[06:35:19] <Ember_Primrose> is that a bad thing?
L172[06:35:43] <Lizzy> not really, just when i go to do it myself i always have to close chrome and steam
L173[06:35:55] <Ember_Primrose> weird
L174[06:36:22] <Lizzy> vifino, okay, thunderbird on my laptop is now taking a long time to connect to manos.i0i0.me to send mail
L175[06:36:55] <Lizzy> now it's getting connection refused :/
L176[06:38:11] <vifino> wat
L177[06:38:22] * Lizzy shrugs
L178[06:38:42] * vifino blames Lizzy
L179[06:38:59] <vifino> mostly because i have no clue whats going on
L180[06:39:02] <Lizzy> oh yeah, blame the networking girl. I see how it is
L181[06:39:06] <Lizzy> :P
L182[06:40:10] <Lizzy> okay, thunderbird on my desktop can't log into the mail server because either the user or pass is incorrect (even though it's not, i've tripple checked it). laptop is getting connection refused when trying to connect to it
L183[06:41:18] <Lizzy> okay, now thunderbird on my laptop is saying i've exceeded the max number of connections
L184[06:42:00] <Lizzy> hmm
L185[06:42:04] <Lizzy> now lets see
L186[06:42:32] <Ember_Primrose> force close all connections on thunderbird?
L187[06:43:08] <Lizzy> just restarted it and it got connection refused again :/
L188[06:43:09] <vifino> Lizzy: Jul 31 11:25:53 manos dovecot: auth: passwd-file(lizzy@i0i0.me,172.19.0.1,<snip>): Password mismatch (SHA1 of given password: <snip>)
L189[06:43:31] <Lizzy> wait, whats that ip?
L190[06:43:39] <vifino> dont mind that
L191[06:43:52] <vifino> it is just the internal networking
L192[06:43:57] <Lizzy> ah
L193[06:44:47] <Lizzy> well that password mismatch was probably from my pc
L194[06:45:03] <Lizzy> gonna let laptop sit and try to forward this email for a bit
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L198[06:53:08] <Ember_Primrose> will dimensional doors ever be updated
L199[06:53:54] <Lizzy> nope, cause the author got stuck in a maze
L200[06:54:05] <Ember_Primrose> :P
L201[06:57:51] <Ember_Primrose> seriously tho
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L203[06:59:36] <Forecaster> doesn't look like it
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L205[07:02:07] <Ember_Primrose> aw
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L207[07:06:49] <Ember_Primrose> o/
L208[07:07:11] <MajGenRelativity> hello Ember_Primrose
L209[07:07:24] <Ember_Primrose> how are you
L210[07:07:32] <MajGenRelativity> good
L211[07:07:43] <MajGenRelativity> about to get on my MC server and start tinkering with some of my machines :P
L212[07:07:54] <Ember_Primrose> :3
L213[07:08:42] <MajGenRelativity> want to join me?
L214[07:09:09] <Ember_Primrose> can't right now, leaving people in my dust in dirt 3 after yes
L215[07:09:18] <MajGenRelativity> ok
L216[07:13:26] <Ember_Primrose> MajGenRelativity, do you have a link for the modpack\
L217[07:13:33] <MajGenRelativity> Ember_Primrose, of course I do!
L218[07:13:41] <Ember_Primrose> \o/
L219[07:16:24] <Ember_Primrose> one reason i don't like 18 and up is, i will miss ae2 too much :{
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L221[07:17:06] <MajGenRelativity> ?
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L223[07:17:54] *** Vic is now known as Vi
L224[07:17:57] <Ember_Primrose> applied energistics 2
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L226[07:18:08] <Lizzy> s/18/1.8
L227[07:18:08] <MichiBot> <Ember_Primrose> one reason i don't like 1.8 and up is, i will miss ae2 too much :{
L228[07:18:14] <Forecaster> gaaasp, you would cheat on me with another server?! :O
L229[07:18:49] * Ember_Primrose hides
L230[07:19:10] <Forecaster> :P
L231[07:19:25] <Forecaster> %drama
L232[07:19:27] <MajGenRelativity> Ember_Primrose, I have ae2 the last time I checked.....
L233[07:19:36] <MichiBot> Forecaster: Grum decides to whitelist Alz454 from FTB Unstable
L234[07:19:45] <Forecaster> gaaaasp
L235[07:20:36] * MajGenRelativity watches drama reference fly over his head
L236[07:21:00] <Forecaster> not sure why whitelisting someone is drama though :P
L237[07:21:09] <MajGenRelativity> same here
L238[07:21:13] <Forecaster> unless you're whitelisting hitler
L239[07:21:54] <MajGenRelativity> um wot
L240[07:22:37] <Forecaster> um wot um wot?
L241[07:23:33] <Forecaster> Ember_Primrose: that wont work from discord when corded is broken :P
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L243[07:24:55] <Ember_Primrose> %quote Ember_Primrose
L244[07:24:56] <MichiBot> Quote #60: <Ember_Primrose> ʕ •ᴥ•ʔ /
L245[07:25:23] <Izaya> %quote
L246[07:25:24] <MichiBot> Quote #2: <Shuudoushi> I will malice you with a shoe horn!
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L248[07:25:41] * Ember_Primrose runs away
L249[07:26:52] * Forecaster aborts the attempt by glomping Ember_Primrose
L250[07:27:04] <Ember_Primrose> %quote Ember_Primrose
L251[07:27:05] <MichiBot> Quote #60: <Ember_Primrose> ʕ •ᴥ•ʔ /
L252[07:27:07] <Ember_Primrose> %quote Ember_Primrose
L253[07:27:07] <MichiBot> Quote #67: <Ember_Primrose> :D
L254[07:27:09] <Ember_Primrose> %quote Ember_Primrose
L255[07:27:09] <MichiBot> Quote #60: <Ember_Primrose> ʕ •ᴥ•ʔ /
L256[07:27:17] <Ember_Primrose> %quote Ember_Primrose
L257[07:27:17] <MichiBot> Quote #63: <Ember_Primrose> Ember_Primrose licks your nose.
L258[07:27:20] <Ember_Primrose> %quote Ember_Primrose
L259[07:27:20] <MichiBot> Quote #63: <Ember_Primrose> Ember_Primrose licks your nose.
L260[07:27:24] <Ember_Primrose> no
L261[07:27:29] <Ember_Primrose> no
L262[07:27:33] <Ember_Primrose> NO
L263[07:28:10] <Forecaster> ?
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L265[07:28:37] <Ember_Primrose> my client lagged and sent out many quote requests
L266[07:28:43] <Forecaster> ah
L267[07:28:54] <Lizzy> cups pls
L268[07:29:10] <Ember_Primrose> cups?
L269[07:29:43] <Ember_Primrose> brb lunch
L270[07:30:00] <Lizzy> CUPS, aka Common Unix Printing Daemon
L271[07:30:20] <Izaya> even the UNIX printing system sucks
L272[07:30:26] <Lizzy> oh
L273[07:30:41] <Izaya> printers are evil
L274[07:30:47] <Lizzy> aparrently cups can't Lizten, it can only listen
L275[07:32:07] <Lizzy> \o/
L276[07:33:41] <Inari> at
L277[07:33:42] <Inari> *wat
L278[07:36:03] <Forecaster> yay typos
L279[07:37:32] <Inari> yay Forecaster
L280[07:37:50] <Forecaster> yay Inari
L281[07:38:10] <Inari> yay Ember_Primrose
L282[07:41:43] <Forecaster> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLykC1VN7NY
L283[07:41:44] <MichiBot> Death From Space — Gamma-Ray Bursts Explained | length: 7m 14s | Likes: 5127 Dislikes: 13 Views: 35959 | by Kurzgesagt – In a Nutshell
L284[07:41:53] <Forecaster> lets hope we don't get sniped by space today
L285[07:42:27] <Inari> eh its pretty unlikely iirc
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L287[07:43:32] <LuMistry> Greetings
L288[07:43:34] <Forecaster> of course :P
L289[07:43:40] <Forecaster> but not impossible :D
L290[07:44:00] <Inari> we migth also i just be gone in a second
L291[07:44:03] <Inari> cause false vacuum stuff
L292[07:44:04] <Inari> :3
L293[07:45:01] <Forecaster> :P
L294[07:45:32] * Lizzy vaccums Inari
L295[07:45:38] <Forecaster> corded is broken, so things typed in discord aren't sent to irc
L296[07:45:39] <Inari> nya
L297[07:45:39] <Inari> lewd
L298[07:45:39] <Forecaster> lewd
L299[07:46:02] <Inari> http://s620.photobucket.com/user/francismeunier/media/number%20two/046804a9.jpg.html
L300[07:47:24] <Forecaster> http://66.media.tumblr.com/ff4007a2112cf8f9a429a5bb9d4673ab/tumblr_nrtl9i8FM51u7sbwuo1_500.png
L301[07:48:20] <MajGenRelativity> ah
L302[07:48:25] <MajGenRelativity> Huh
L303[07:48:29] <MajGenRelativity> why is corded broken?
L304[07:48:44] <Lizzy> because it wants to be
L305[07:48:45] <Forecaster> esper derps I believe
L306[07:49:22] <MajGenRelativity> Ok....
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L309[08:00:26] <Ember_Primrose> Inari, yay for yay
L310[08:01:31] <Ember_Primrose> Forecaster, can we record tonight?
L311[08:01:39] <Forecaster> sure
L312[08:02:01] <Ember_Primrose> Lizzy, you game?
L313[08:02:50] <Lizzy> sure, i guess
L314[08:02:56] <Ember_Primrose> \o/
L315[08:02:58] * Ember_Primrose dances
L316[08:03:04] <Inari> she's only game for vifino
L317[08:03:12] <Inari> noone else is allowed to "shoot" her
L318[08:03:12] <Inari> :s
L319[08:04:10] <Inari> hm
L320[08:04:17] <Inari> if you gain 50% when going from 1 to 2
L321[08:04:18] * Ember_Primrose slaps MajGenRelativity
L322[08:04:19] * EnderBot2 laughs
L323[08:04:21] <Inari> and 33% when going from 2 to 3
L324[08:04:23] <MajGenRelativity> what
L325[08:04:26] <Inari> what kind of gain does 0 to 1 give?
L326[08:04:27] <Inari> infinite?@
L327[08:04:34] <Ember_Primrose> i can't connect
L328[08:04:39] <Ember_Primrose> whitelist
L329[08:04:41] <Forecaster> that's not gaining 50%
L330[08:04:47] <Forecaster> that's 100%
L331[08:04:51] <Forecaster> 50 would be 1.5
L332[08:14:08] <Inari> 100% then :P
L333[08:14:34] <Forecaster> well, 100% of 0 is zero
L334[08:14:38] <Forecaster> so yeah, infinity
L335[08:15:11] <Forecaster> I can math *sometimes*
L336[08:15:14] <Lizzy> current status of trying to get this printer working: setting up an ubuntu VM so i can use the driver installer and get the ppd file so that i can use it on Myrrdin
L337[08:15:44] <Inari> Forecaster: but even if you gian infinity
L338[08:15:46] <Inari> you'll still be 0
L339[08:15:46] <Inari> :<
L340[08:17:00] <Forecaster> well yeah, you can't get from 0 to 1 by incrementing by 0 :P
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L342[08:19:53] <Forecaster> in fact, you can't get from something to anything by incrementing by 0 :P
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L344[08:21:33] <Lizzy> hmm, I /could/ attempt to set up a windows vm on Myrrdin, performance would be shite though cause single core + HT and 8GB of ram
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L353[08:41:47] <Inari> Vexatos: so um... since you're into chemistry, how well is your electronics understanding? :D
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L355[08:43:05] <Inari> thats a pretty cute dress~ http://akari.in/pinky_ZFO5u
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L357[08:43:23] <Forecaster> yeah
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L359[08:43:59] <Inari> would like to get a better shot of it
L360[08:44:01] <Inari> but they didnt reall yhave any
L361[08:44:02] <Inari> :<
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L363[08:45:13] <Izaya> Inari: looks like a lampshade
L364[08:45:21] <Inari> lol
L365[08:45:40] <Inari> that would be a pretty fancy lampshade
L366[08:46:28] <Vexatos> Inari, pretty decent?
L367[08:46:34] <Inari> http://i.imgur.com/7mkjRG9.gifv haha
L368[08:46:39] <Vexatos> I never burnt a thermosensor
L369[08:46:43] <Inari> :P
L370[08:47:03] <Inari> i dont think having the wires the wrong way aroun dby accident has much to do with understand of that, but sure
L371[08:47:38] <xandaros> It's part of the experience, for sure
L372[08:47:53] <xandaros> You eventually learn to double check your components are the right way around compulsively
L373[08:47:57] <Vexatos> I can tell you about
L374[08:47:58] <Vexatos> uuh
L375[08:48:03] <Ember_Primrose> Forecaster, weeeee
L376[08:48:03] <Inari> Vexatos: so where do i read up more on how electricity works on an electron level :P i went trhough MIT's guided tour on classic electromagnetism, not sure how accurate that is though
L377[08:48:08] <Vexatos> the current page I currently have open
L378[08:48:11] <Vexatos> polyhalogenides
L379[08:48:30] <Vexatos> Inari, you what
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L381[08:48:43] <Inari> ?
L382[08:48:44] <Vexatos> Did I really spend five hours explaining that exact topic to you for nothing
L383[08:48:47] <Ember_Primrose> forecaster, u updated?
L384[08:48:58] <Inari> Vexatos: your explanation wasnt as indepth :P
L385[08:49:04] <Vexatos> electromagnetism has NOTHING to do with electricity
L386[08:49:10] <Vexatos> so you are already doing it wrong
L387[08:49:13] <Forecaster> Ember_Primrose: yeh
L388[08:49:20] <Inari> dunno a stackoverflow link pointed to it xD
L389[08:49:24] <Inari> Vexatos: why not?
L390[08:49:27] <Ember_Primrose> redownload the WHOLE pack?
L391[08:49:36] <Vexatos> Inari, because it is two completely different things?
L392[08:49:37] <Inari> its about charge atracting and repelling, electrons are charge carriers xD
L393[08:49:42] <Vexatos> electricity is electrons moving
L394[08:49:50] <Vexatos> electromagnetism does not need any charge at all
L395[08:50:03] <Inari> electrons move as a result of interaction between electrons, other electrons and protons, no?
L396[08:50:13] <Vexatos> yes
L397[08:50:17] <Vexatos> but that is not electromagnetism
L398[08:50:24] <Inari> and those operate basedon electric fields
L399[08:50:24] <Inari> so
L400[08:50:36] <Vexatos> yes, it's all electric fields
L401[08:50:39] <Vexatos> nothing magnetic
L402[08:50:46] <Vexatos> i.e. no electromagnetism
L403[08:50:46] <Izaya> does anyone else feel that they can get smarter by simply being in the same room as smart people?
L404[08:50:51] <Inari> well it explained electric fields and then magnetic fields :P
L405[08:51:06] <Vexatos> Izaya, I feel like I get more stupid because I keep explaining the same thing to Inari
L406[08:51:10] <Ember_Primrose> Izaya, eh
L407[08:51:12] <Inari> lol
L408[08:51:18] <xandaros> Vexatos: I feel you :P
L409[08:51:32] * Ember_Primrose glomps Inari
L410[08:51:44] <Inari> Vexatos: so anyway i still dont understand how resistors work :D not sure if my current idea of how circuit electron flow owrks is even accurate at all :s
L411[08:51:49] <xandaros> Izaya: Can't really tell, since I tend to be the smartest person in the room
L412[08:51:51] <Vexatos> RESISTORS
L413[08:51:55] <Vexatos> YOU HAVE ONE ELECTRON
L414[08:52:00] <Vexatos> IT MOVES THROUGH SPACE AND TIME
L415[08:52:08] <Inari> well thats flow
L416[08:52:08] <Vexatos> IT GETS REPELLED BY OTHER CHARGES
L417[08:52:08] <Inari> :p
L418[08:52:16] <Vexatos> IF IT GETS REPELLED MORE IT CANNOT MOVE AS WELL
L419[08:52:20] <Vexatos> THAT IS CALLED RESISTANCE
L420[08:52:22] <Vexatos> DONE
L421[08:52:24] <Vexatos> NOW PLEASE
L422[08:52:26] <Vexatos> STOP
L423[08:52:26] <Vexatos> ASKING
L424[08:52:27] <Vexatos> THE
L425[08:52:28] <Vexatos> SAME
L426[08:52:30] <Vexatos> QUESTION
L427[08:52:30] <Vexatos> OVER
L428[08:52:32] <Vexatos> AND OVER
L429[08:52:33] <Vexatos> AND OVER
L430[08:52:36] <Vexatos> AND OVER
L431[08:52:38] <Vexatos> AGAIN
L432[08:52:40] <xandaros> Izaya: Jokes aside, if you listen and you aren't stupid, you can probably pick up a few things. Probably requires previous knowledge in the domain they talk about, though
L433[08:53:08] * Izaya has done HS-level science and finds Vexatos and Inari most entertaining
L434[08:53:26] * Ember_Primrose high-fives Izaya
L435[08:53:48] * Izaya high-fives Ember_Primrose ?
L436[08:53:49] <Vexatos> I am doing university level science and Inari wants it explained by means of kindergarten level science
L437[08:53:58] *** medsouz|offline is now known as medsouz
L438[08:54:04] <Ember_Primrose> Izaya, i did it on hs-level too :D
L439[08:54:21] <xandaros> No, Inari wants to hear something that is untrue and just doesn't accept the opposite, I think...
L440[08:54:24] <Inari> Vexatos: so when 2 electrons get close together apparently energy is stored in the compressing electric fieldb etween them, when then one gets repelled off (well both do, but lets look at one) the expanding field loses energy and stores it back into the electron as some for mof kinetic/motion energy? and then when it bounces into resistance it transfers that to the material, causing heat or such
L441[08:54:26] <Inari> to be emitted instead?
L442[08:55:30] <Ember_Primrose> Inari, sounds about right
L443[08:55:45] <Inari> well i mostly dont understand how resistors cause voltage drop :D
L444[08:56:04] <Inari> any scenario i think about tends to run into a cople issues :P
L445[08:56:28] <Ember_Primrose> should i get my hs book?
L446[08:56:54] <Vexatos> Inari, imagine you are an electron
L447[08:57:04] <xandaros> Think of a resistor as a valve in a water pipe. If you start with pressure on one side and pressure on the other side, if you open the valve a bit, you will still get less pressure on the side that started empty until they equalised. At that point, your voltage source ran dry.
L448[08:57:04] <Vexatos> and you are in a crowd of 500 electrons
L449[08:57:08] <Inari> Ember_Primrose: well, if it explains the interactions of electric fields, electrons and protons to explain the voltage formula and thus how voltage drpos across a resistor?
L450[08:57:10] <Vexatos> you want to get from A to B
L451[08:57:16] <Vexatos> and there are two paths to that
L452[08:57:34] <Vexatos> a straight one and one that is very slim and uphill
L453[08:57:48] <Vexatos> you certainly are more likely to go the straight path
L454[08:58:05] <Ember_Primrose> nvm then
L455[08:58:10] <Vexatos> "more likely" means
L456[08:58:17] <Vexatos> the POTENTIAL to go that path is higher
L457[08:58:23] <Vexatos> than the POTENTIAL to go the other path
L458[08:58:32] <Vexatos> i.e. voltage is higher on the easier path
L459[08:58:38] <Vexatos> the path of less resistance
L460[08:59:21] <Vexatos> Inari, just study electrotech and have fun integrating in C³
L461[08:59:42] <Vexatos> :X
L462[09:00:05] <Vexatos> fun fact: 5% of people studying that manage to get their Bachelor's degree.
L463[09:00:18] <Inari> well from my current understand... "voltage is the amount of work in Joule per coulomb you have to do to move a point charge from point A to point B against the electric field". also, the positive side of the voltage source has a higher net positive charge than the negative side? if so then either flow happens from one or two of these things: a) as you said, eelctrons repell, electrons go out from
L464[09:00:19] <Vexatos> it's the hardest thing to study, Chemisty is second though >_>
L465[09:00:34] <Inari> the negative side, reducing the net negative charge there, and taking energy with them I suppose
L466[09:00:54] <Inari> they go up against other electrons in the wire, repel those again, and the like
L467[09:00:55] <Lizzy> .-. E [31/Jul/2016:15:01:00 +0100] [Job 4] Unable to start filter "brlpdwrapperMFC410CN" - Success.
L468[09:00:56] <Vexatos> motion energy
L469[09:01:14] <Vexatos> field energy
L470[09:01:19] <Vexatos> mostly the latter
L471[09:01:59] <Inari> though wouldnt on the opposiute side the positive side of the voltage source also attract electrons out of the cable, causing a positive net charge at the point that the electron was drawn from, which also travels along the wire as a "hole" so to say
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L473[09:03:12] <xandaros> Inari: Yes, kinda. That's how electrons on the other end can 'know' where to go
L474[09:03:22] <xandaros> (the negative side)
L475[09:03:31] <Forecaster> http://imgur.com/HTbyO
L476[09:03:58] <Inari> thouhg voltage still elsudes me
L477[09:04:17] <Vexatos> Inari, it is the want for an electron to move at all
L478[09:04:23] <Inari> whats the electric field and the point charge in this case
L479[09:04:29] <xandaros> Forecaster: Just the tip
L480[09:04:38] <Lizzy> Inari, https://imgur.com/gallery/B9gem
L481[09:04:49] <Inari> moving electrons into the wire? becasue the electrons in the wire would rather stay with their protons?
L482[09:04:55] <Forecaster> xandaros: yep :P
L483[09:05:05] <Inari> Lizzy: all the dumps D:
L484[09:06:50] <Vexatos> Inari, a field is just that
L485[09:07:01] <xandaros> Inari: Voltage is the difference in potential. You can think of potential as the density of electrons at a certain spot (which is immesurable, keep that in mind please) - So if you have less potential in one place (positive) and higher potential in another (negative), you have voltage between them. If they happen to be connected by a conductor, you get flow
L486[09:07:37] <Vexatos> Inari, a field is a mathematical concept, part of linear algebra.
L487[09:07:48] <Inari> well im trying to understand which electric field the formal definiotn means
L488[09:07:52] <Vexatos> and vector maths
L489[09:08:00] <Inari> Vexatos: sure, but this talks about a specific field
L490[09:08:02] <Inari> not just the concept
L491[09:08:06] <Vexatos> it is another case of maths that just happen to work
L492[09:08:11] <Vexatos> i.e. quantum physics
L493[09:08:17] <Vexatos> but it is just a concept
L494[09:08:25] <Inari> im asking which field, i.e. which charge carrier creates the field
L495[09:08:31] <Vexatos> it is nothing that _exists_
L496[09:08:43] <Inari> it is exists fro the point of trying to explain the universe :P
L497[09:08:45] <Vexatos> just like electrons are not particles that _exist_
L498[09:08:52] <Inari> thats besides the point
L499[09:09:06] <Vexatos> a charge has a field
L500[09:09:07] <Vexatos> period
L501[09:09:11] <Inari> yeah
L502[09:09:12] <Vexatos> it does by definition
L503[09:09:23] <Inari> and im asking which cahrge's field im moving against here
L504[09:09:31] <Inari> "The difference in voltage measured when moving from point A to point B is equal to the work which would have to be done, per unit charge, against the electric field to move the charge from A to B. "
L505[09:09:59] <Inari> in a setting of resistor with a 5v voltage soruce
L506[09:10:00] <Inari> or soemthing
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L508[09:10:21] <Vexatos> F = q1 * q2 * (4πεr²)^-1
L509[09:10:25] <Vexatos> that is your force
L510[09:10:31] <Inari> good
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L512[09:10:39] <Inari> now which charges do i use for q1 and q2
L513[09:10:44] <Vexatos> any two charges
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L516[09:10:53] <Vexatos> they attract or repel each other depending on their sign
L517[09:11:07] <Inari> good for them, i still dont know how i get to voltage thouhg :D
L518[09:11:16] <Vexatos> negative force means attractive force in this case
L519[09:12:02] <Inari> so is the electric field the one form the charge carriers in the wire? that would rather not move as they found their stable state?
L520[09:12:29] <Vexatos> U = -integral(a,b)(E ds)
L521[09:12:37] <Vexatos> from point a to point b
L522[09:13:15] <Inari> i dont care about the exact calculation as much as understanding what happens :P but ig ues
L523[09:13:34] <Vexatos> Inari, just live with it
L524[09:13:43] <Vexatos> you are again trying to find things that don't exist
L525[09:13:50] <Inari> im trying to understand how the basic crap works so i can reason about how other crap works
L526[09:13:56] <Inari> no, im not
L527[09:13:57] <Vexatos> quantum mechanics is maths that happens to work rather well
L528[09:14:01] <Inari> im trying to understand the explanation fo voltage
L529[09:14:01] <Vexatos> no more and no less
L530[09:14:04] <Inari> and what voltage means :P
L531[09:14:06] <xandaros> Inari: What's wrong with my explanation above?
L532[09:14:29] <Inari> xandaros: it doesnt explain what electric field im moving against :s
L533[09:14:40] <Vexatos> Inari, voltage is the field integrated across space
L534[09:14:41] <xandaros> You always make things more complicated than you need to
L535[09:14:52] <Vexatos> that is the full explanation
L536[09:14:54] <Vexatos> it it just a concept
L537[09:14:57] <Vexatos> nothing else
L538[09:15:06] <Inari> Vexatos: not sure what that means :P
L539[09:15:10] <Vexatos> :X
L540[09:15:34] <Vexatos> >wants to know the base of electrodynamics
L541[09:15:34] <Inari> curent is easy enough to udnerstand, voltage is weird though
L542[09:15:42] <Vexatos> >doesn't even calculus
L543[09:15:49] <Inari> yeah well
L544[09:15:52] <Vexatos> yea no
L545[09:15:54] <Vexatos> I'm out
L546[09:15:54] <Inari> i never heard "integrated over space" before
L547[09:15:55] <Inari> :P
L548[09:15:58] <xandaros> potential difference is voltage. Done.
L549[09:16:43] <Inari> good
L550[09:16:47] <Inari> whats potential?
L551[09:17:16] <xandaros> You can think of it as electron density
L552[09:17:55] <Inari> that doesnt seem logical, if anything i'd then think of it as the energy stored in the electric fields that are squishes up between the electrons
L553[09:18:57] <xandaros> Just think of it as density. It may not be exactly correct, I don't know, but it works well enough >:(
L554[09:19:54] <xandaros> The electrons repel each other and will therefore go from a place with higher density to a place with lower density, statistically
L555[09:20:19] <xandaros> And there you have current
L556[09:20:37] <Inari> sure, current formula is realtively simple, voltage makes no sense still though :D
L557[09:21:02] <Inari> (6.28 * 10^18) electrons per second * (-1.602 * 10^-19) coloumb per electron = 1 coloumb per second = ! A
L558[09:21:04] <Inari> *1 A
L559[09:21:05] <xandaros> It's the 'pressure' that causes the electrons to move in the first place
L560[09:22:12] <Inari> xandaros: but if i need pressure that means theres resisstance, so it is because resistors removed energy from the system that then isnt going back into electric fields? and thus i need something to supply more energy to keep things moving/
L561[09:22:21] <Inari> if so then the nbegative side of the voltage source would provide that energy
L562[09:22:37] <Inari> which would make sense, since before the resistors the voltage would be 0
L563[09:22:48] <Inari> (before when taken from the negative side)
L564[09:22:52] <xandaros> You don't need resistance to get a flow. Your flow is just going to be over in an instance. This is called a short circuit
L565[09:22:57] <Inari> since theres about no resistanc ein the wire itself
L566[09:22:59] <xandaros> *instant
L567[09:23:04] <Inari> but after you'd then need tos upply more energy
L568[09:23:33] <Inari> xandaros: well imeant if i need pressure theres resistance :p else any small amount of drift would cause current
L569[09:24:04] <Inari> capacitors are still abit odd though
L570[09:24:18] <xandaros> You have pressure at one point in time. E.g. there's a switch you haven't closed yet. You close the switch. Assuming perfect material, there's no resistance.
L571[09:24:25] <Inari> Vexatos: maybe is hould study that :D except im lazy \o/
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L573[09:25:55] <xandaros> Fun fact: You can have current without resistance, and you can have no current with resistance. If you have an open circuit, you have infinite resistance and nothing flows. Resistance reduces current, it doesn't cause it
L574[09:26:12] <Inari> thats the point :p
L575[09:26:35] <Inari> anyway
L576[09:26:45] <Inari> this should also validate my mental picture of how RC circuits work
L577[09:28:09] <scj643> Any tips for blogging from a vps
L578[09:28:17] <xandaros> As for voltage drop, if you have a voltage source with a resistor between neg and pos, there will be a voltage drop ober the resitor equaling what your voltage source puts out. Simple as that, really
L579[09:28:33] <Inari> xandaros: sure, but that doesnt explain the why
L580[09:28:33] <Inari> :D
L581[09:28:46] <xandaros> Because one side has, e.g. 5v and one has 0v
L582[09:28:51] <Inari> but why?
L583[09:29:01] <xandaros> Because one has higher potential than the other
L584[09:29:33] <Inari> then you now have 2 resistors in series, whys the middle one somewhere between 5v adn 0v
L585[09:29:47] <xandaros> This can be achieved in a number of ways. Most commonly, it just is (outlet), but it can also be done chemically (batteries)
L586[09:30:58] <xandaros> You have a voltage drop of 5v over both of them. If those resistors have the same resistance, you end up with 2.5v in the middle. This should make intuitive sense, really...
L587[09:31:45] <Inari> why dont oyu ahvea 5v voltage drop over one of them instead though?
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L589[09:32:36] <Inari> xandaros: also, i have no intuitive undersatnd of ho wpressurised water behaves, so the water analogies dont tend to work for me :P plus i;ve read it causes a bad understanding of electricity to use it
L590[09:32:39] <xandaros> Because the electrons want to move to the positive side. If there is no voltage left earlier, then they'd have arrived already. But they haven't, new electrons come in, increasing your voltage
L591[09:32:44] <xandaros> Broadly speaking
L592[09:33:07] <Inari> see thats why understanding how the electrons mov ein detali is important :D
L593[09:33:41] <xandaros> It is a situation you never get in, but if, somehow, you do, this is what'll happen. And then you end up with 2.5v again
L594[09:33:51] * Vexatos successfully made xandaros suffer.
L595[09:33:57] <xandaros> You did
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L597[09:34:41] <xandaros> And the understanding in detail is not necessary for this kind of stuff. I don't have it, I'm just a hobbyist and I get by just fine
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L599[09:35:14] <Inari> good :P i'd rather be more than hobbyist someday, and i like understanding what happens under the hood, since then i feel more seucre in what i do instead of fumbling about vague stuff i barely understand how it works
L600[09:35:46] <xandaros> I can make some educated guesses about how it works and it's usually pretty close to the truth, but it's not necessary to understand how it works on a high level. Which is what you should learn first imo
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L602[09:37:11] <Inari> eh, i dont like knowing stuff only on a "high level", and i tried learning electronics "on a high level" mutiple times before but failed because it never makes sense once it gets into anything more than reistors + battery
L603[09:37:24] <xandaros> People make abstractions for a reason
L604[09:38:54] <xandaros> Also, I personally think the water analogy is pretty good. It breaks down eventually, of course and you have to keep in mind that it's an analogy, but it works for the basics. Source, voltage, current, resistors, even capacitors
L605[09:39:14] <Inari> i never understood the water analogy much lol
L606[09:39:54] <Forecaster> "water wet, other thing wet, like water"
L607[09:39:55] <Forecaster> :D
L608[09:41:14] <Inari> tehe lectric field stuff makes more snese
L609[09:41:18] <xandaros> Stick to the high level for now and if you run into problems, ask about it. You can look at how and why electrons move later. It's unnecessary knowledge at this stage and will only hold you back
L610[09:41:41] <xandaros> Otherwise, go bother the people in ##electronics on freenode. :/
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L612[09:44:38] <xandaros> I might study electronics at some point. It is very interesting, but computer science and maybe maths come first
L613[09:45:37] <xandaros> Vexatos: Btw, I decided not to do CC support. They make it a pain in the butt and I don't want to support closed source projects.
L614[09:46:29] <Mimiru> crap speaking of.. I need to readd cc to OpenFM 1.8
L615[09:47:18] <Lizzy> Mimiru, Corded be fucked
L616[09:47:36] <Mimiru> Is it..?
L617[09:47:40] <Mimiru> Is it really?
L618[09:48:08] <Lizzy> it was
L619[09:48:15] <Mimiru> :P
L620[09:48:21] <Mimiru> I restarted it like an hour ago...
L621[09:48:30] <Elizabeth> ah
L622[09:48:31] <Cruor> xandaros: but muh CC masturrace
L623[09:48:37] <Mimiru> Oh... 37 minutes
L624[09:48:44] <Mimiru> I'm still waking up, minutes take days
L625[09:49:30] <xandaros> Cruor: If it gets open sources, I will happily support it. As long as it's closed, I'm not going to, someone else can do it. (Probably McJty, since I was working on his mods)
L626[09:50:08] <Cruor> xandaros: i was joking btw :I
L627[09:50:11] <Cruor> what kind of mod is it?
L628[09:50:46] <xandaros> Deep Resonance. late-game power gen, a bit like big reactors, but not quite
L629[09:51:02] <Cruor> oooh, is that the one with crystals?
L630[09:51:05] <xandaros> yes
L631[09:51:15] <xandaros> I'll add OC support to RFTools next
L632[09:51:32] <Cruor> you should ask Vexatos if you need help with CC api though
L633[09:51:47] <Cruor> i think he is the only one who knows how to use it :I
L634[09:51:50] <Mimiru> the CC API *sucks*
L635[09:51:55] <Mimiru> there is no question about it
L636[09:52:05] <xandaros> I did, that's why I told him I'm not going to do it anymore, after learning CC is closed source
L637[09:52:06] <Cruor> i wouldnt know :p
L638[09:52:16] <Mimiru> As someone who has used both.. OC makes it SUPER straight forward
L639[09:52:29] <Inari> xandaros: gues i'll ask someone to give me alhihg level expalantoin of Rc circuits later then :P and capacitors xD
L640[09:52:53] <Inari> xandaros: so far i found the exlantion fo electric fiedls more helpful than any "think of water" crap io've raed before
L641[09:53:25] <Vexatos> Cruor, well
L642[09:53:30] <Vexatos> most CC addons are dead by now :<
L643[09:53:35] <Cruor> yea...
L644[09:53:39] <Vexatos> is periphs++ still a thing?
L645[09:53:42] <Cruor> no idea
L646[09:53:51] <Vexatos> and moarperiphs? theoriginalbit is gone no?
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L648[09:54:18] <Cruor> tbh, with oc going down the cheap af route, i dont see any reasons to use CC besides for random ploting down of computer for redstone debuging
L649[09:54:20] <Vexatos> Computronics and OpenPeriphs are the only ones left or something like that :X
L650[09:54:30] <Vexatos> Cruor, cheap af tho
L651[09:57:43] <fingercomp> Vexatos: can I use a table of two tostringed numbers ({tostring(n), tostring(e)}) as a RSA public key for advanced cipher block's encrypt() method?
L652[09:58:13] <Vexatos> fingercomp, oh god
L653[09:58:29] <Vexatos> I haven't looked at those in a year or so ._.
L654[09:58:30] <Vexatos> let me check
L655[09:59:19] <fingercomp> yeah, last time I used the cipher was a year ago. That's why I'm asking
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L657[09:59:50] <Vexatos> okay, the two key gens provided by the cipher block do both return a {pub, priv}
L658[09:59:52] <Vexatos> both strings
L659[10:00:03] <fingercomp> oh, okay, thanks
L660[10:00:06] <Vexatos> so yea
L661[10:00:10] <Vexatos> you are correct
L662[10:00:50] * xandaros just noticed the data card doesn't have RSA
L663[10:00:59] <Vexatos> yea because the adv cipher block does :>
L664[10:01:07] <Vexatos> you rarely need RSA
L665[10:01:10] <gamax92> you scrub
L666[10:01:18] <gamax92> scrub alert
L667[10:01:23] <fingercomp> just wanted to use the advanced cipher for my attempt to implement TLS sockets
L668[10:01:29] <Vexatos> the crypto methods provided by the data card are virtually uncrackable in OC
L669[10:01:33] <Vexatos> due to the speed limitations
L670[10:01:38] <gamax92> fingercomp: !
L671[10:01:42] <Vexatos> fingercomp, that is cool!
L672[10:01:50] <xandaros> Well, that's the point, isn't it
L673[10:01:53] <gamax92> The Russians are being better than us still D:<
L674[10:02:02] <Vexatos> gamax92, someone ported MoonScript to OC
L675[10:02:06] <Vexatos> selene is 50% useless now :>
L676[10:02:10] <gamax92> were there Russian?
L677[10:02:14] <Vexatos> I think so
L678[10:02:19] <Vexatos> I need to port selene to moonscript one day
L679[10:02:26] <Vexatos> because it still doesn't have all the fancy methods
L680[10:03:01] <Vexatos> gamax92, at least I found it on computercraft.ru
L681[10:03:02] <Vexatos> :X
L682[10:03:16] <xandaros> Well, I suppose you can use DSA for authentication
L683[10:03:28] <gamax92> yeah, I wish they would give back more to our forums :<
L684[10:03:39] <gamax92> there's probably one person who atleast lurks it
L685[10:03:46] <Vexatos> gamax92, well fingercomp and Totoro are here occasionally
L686[10:04:00] <Vexatos> and they are kind of the most active cc.ru guys :P
L687[10:04:05] <Vexatos> at least among them
L688[10:07:31] <gamax92> fingercomp: well you know what.
L689[10:07:44] <gamax92> fingercomp: I'm just going to go add SSLEngine support to OC and ruin all your work.
L690[10:08:39] <fingercomp> okay
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L692[10:08:54] <gamax92> Vexatos: he's fine with this :<
L693[10:09:06] <Vexatos> gamax92, welp
L694[10:09:24] <Vexatos> way to ruin someone's will to work
L695[10:09:46] <Vexatos> meanwhile https://github.com/evgkul/moonscript-opencomputers
L696[10:10:47] <gamax92> atleast they wrote that readme in English
L697[10:11:06] <Vexatos> no idea if the person is Russian >_>
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L699[10:11:25] <gamax92> Krutoy is Russian at least
L700[10:11:54] <Vexatos> and Totoro is too :P
L701[10:11:56] <gamax92> and so is evgkul
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L703[10:12:02] <Vexatos> I guess that settles it ._.
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L705[10:17:18] <Mimiru> damn it has nginx crashed again
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L707[10:24:21] <xandaros> Why does robot.drop take an additional count argument, but dropDown and dropUp don't? o_O
L708[10:25:07] <Inari> xandaros: so, how does this thing work on a high level :| http://akari.in/pinky_D4AZB
L709[10:25:48] <xandaros> Inari: Sorry, I'm working on my purescript bindings now. Maybe later
L710[10:33:54] <xandaros> Also, why don't turnLeft, turnRight and turnAround return error messages?
L711[10:34:01] <xandaros> payonel
L712[10:34:33] <Forecaster> those are deprecated iirc
L713[10:35:16] <xandaros> They aren't listed as deprecated -_-
L714[10:35:49] <xandaros> robot.tankSpace():number
L715[10:35:49] <Mimiru> You're marked deprecated!
L716[10:35:51] <xandaros> The the remaining fluid capacity in the specified tank, or, if none is specified, the selected tank.
L717[10:36:01] <xandaros> So... where do I specify the tank? lol
L718[10:36:58] * xandaros should probably use the ingame docs instead of the wiki
L719[10:49:20] <xandaros> Yup, ingame docs say it takes an argument :/
L720[10:49:32] <xandaros> They are a pain in the butt to use, though. Guess I'll look at the source
L721[10:50:18] <Forecaster> feel free to help update the wiki :>
L722[10:50:18] <xandaros> Also, turnLeft and turnRight are not deprecated. They simply don't exist - despite being documented
L723[10:51:25] <xandaros> Oh wai
L724[10:51:27] <xandaros> t
L725[10:51:37] <xandaros> I was looking at the robot component, not the robot api from openos
L726[10:52:07] <xandaros> No clue how to find docs for that, though
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L728[10:52:28] <Mimiru> Damn it SSS
L729[10:52:39] <Ember_Primrose> SSS?
L730[10:52:48] <Ember_Primrose> oh and hai
L731[10:53:07] <xandaros> “tankSpace(function arguments)” - this is great, lol
L732[10:53:52] <xandaros> Forecaster: I can't find the edit button...
L733[10:54:05] <xandaros> Oh, Options...
L734[10:55:04] <Mimiru> There... Kenny now properly shows as 1.8 years ago
L735[10:55:19] <Mimiru> Ember_Primrose SSS = superseriousstats
L736[10:55:32] <xandaros> Also, what is it with these barely legible buttons?
L737[10:55:42] <Ember_Primrose> what happened
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L739[10:58:32] <Ember_Primrose> ooh, i went up two ranks in a day
L740[10:59:13] <Mimiru> god damn it Kibibyte broke my fucking log parser
L741[10:59:48] <Ember_Primrose> not fub
L742[10:59:51] <Ember_Primrose> fun
L743[11:00:17] <Mimiru> Fuck it valid HTML be damned...
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L747[11:07:31] <Mimiru> ._. what the fuck was this bot smoking
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L749[11:10:22] <Inari> https://i.redd.it/im0cf2sbckcx.jpg fancy fur
L750[11:11:54] <Lizzy> ?
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L753[11:13:47] <Temia> caaat
L754[11:14:02] <Ember_Primrose> okay, this is a weird crash: https://pastebin.com/N2EVdX69
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L756[11:15:04] <Mimiru> k, ran tidy on it, seems to fix it
L757[11:22:04] * Mimiru test
L758[11:22:52] <Forecaster> @Ember_Primrose that looks like a mekanism derp
L759[11:23:11] <Ember_Primrose> D:
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L761[11:36:42] <Sangar> if you missed payonel's talk at btm and are interested in it, here's a recording (with the server crashes cut out :P) https://youtu.be/_sxo2pYpUg8
L762[11:36:44] <MichiBot> OpenOS 1.6 Changes and Additions [BTM16 2.0] [English] | length: 1h, 5m 20s | Likes: 0 Dislikes: 0 Views: 15 | by Mighty Pirates
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L764[11:45:18] <Cruor> Sangar: why cant i color the keyboard, this ruins my immersion
L765[11:45:22] <Cruor> please explain yourself :I
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L768[11:51:30] <Vexatos> Sangar, uuuuh there is a lot of stuff missing
L769[11:51:38] <Vexatos> it ends very abruptly
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L773[12:16:04] <Ember_Primrose> %addquote payonel I love the tomatoes, you guys are wonderful!
L774[12:16:06] <MichiBot> Ember_Primrose: Quote added at id: 69
L775[12:16:23] <Forecaster> :P
L776[12:16:27] <Forecaster> nice
L777[12:16:36] <Ember_Primrose> reference: https://youtu.be/_sxo2pYpUg8?t=13m11s
L778[12:16:36] <MichiBot> OpenOS 1.6 Changes and Additions [BTM16 2.0] [English] | length: 1h, 5m 20s | Likes: 3 Dislikes: 0 Views: 59 | by Mighty Pirates
L779[12:16:49] <Mimiru> log parser does a bit.. more now :P
L780[12:16:57] <Forecaster> :D
L781[12:24:58] <Mimiru> https://oclogs.pc-logix.com/parser.php?log=2016-07-31.log
L782[12:25:26] <Mimiru> Theres also https://oclogs.pc-logix.com/parser.php?log=2016-07-31.log&plain is you don't want the parser to make it pretty :P
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L784[12:33:59] <Ember_Primrose> Mimiru, first thing i see is me yawnig purple
L785[12:34:04] * Ember_Primrose celebrates
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L787[12:40:39] <Mimiru> %rainbow testing 1234556457er57e57e5678e5jphsfrio;hsxzrey
L788[12:40:41] <MichiBot> Mimiru: testing 1234556457er57e57e5678e5jphsfrio;hsxzrey
L789[12:41:15] <Mimiru> yay I broke the color parser
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L791[12:41:26] <Forecaster> plain could still hyperlink though
L792[12:41:48] <Mimiru> done
L793[12:41:58] <Mimiru> k.... irc2html colors is broken
L794[12:42:01] <Forecaster> :>
L795[12:42:39] <Mimiru> it's not getting stripped in plain... which means something is hosed
L796[12:43:24] <scj643> Could someone make a mod that makes minecraft run in exclusive fullscreen?
L797[12:43:50] <Forecaster> exclusive fullscreen?
L798[12:43:56] <scj643> http://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/extra/fullscreen/exclusivemode.html
L799[12:44:01] <Forecaster> you mean fullscreen window?
L800[12:44:03] <scj643> No
L801[12:44:07] <scj643> Fullscreen exclusive
L802[12:44:28] <scj643> The difference is that in fullscreen windowed or default minecraft fullscreen
L803[12:44:44] <scj643> it isn't the same as say a game like CS:GO in exclusive mode
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L805[12:45:02] <scj643> And mobile GPUs a lot of times don't like being in non exclusive mode
L806[12:45:09] <scj643> You get diagonal tearing
L807[12:45:25] <scj643> http://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/extra/fullscreen/exclusivemode.html
L808[12:46:00] <scj643> Does minecraft use the Abstract Window Toolkit from java?
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L810[12:47:31] <Skye> scj643, MC uses LWJGL
L811[12:49:47] <Forecaster> I wonder what irc was like before pings
L812[12:50:13] <scj643> I wonder how to make minecraft run in exclusive fullscreen
L813[12:50:18] <scj643> or anything for that matter
L814[12:50:24] <Lizzy> Forecaster, ?
L815[12:50:40] <Mimiru> %rainbow testing
L816[12:50:40] <MichiBot> Mimiru: testing
L817[12:51:04] <Mimiru> fix't
L818[12:51:40] <Vexatos> %tell Sangar the video is incomplete, it ends abruptly...
L819[12:51:42] <MichiBot> Vexatos: Sangar will be notified of this message when next seen.
L820[12:52:24] <scj643> Ok KSP why the hell can't you use exclusive fullscreen
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L828[13:15:59] <Sangar> Vexatos, what are you talking about?
L829[13:17:01] <Vexatos> the video ends so abruptly for me
L830[13:17:08] <Vexatos> there is like part missing no?
L831[13:18:15] <Sangar> which one?
L832[13:18:33] <Forecaster> it doesn't look like anything is missing to me
L833[13:19:19] <Sangar> yeah, both look fine to me, just checked
L834[13:20:01] <Lizzy> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YV4oYkIeGJc
L835[13:20:01] <MichiBot> Disturbed - Land Of Confusion [Official Music Video] | length: 4m 49s | Likes: 103882 Dislikes: 2168 Views: 18654880 | by Disturbed
L836[13:20:51] <Forecaster> great song :P
L837[13:23:10] <Vexatos> hmm
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L839[13:25:44] <Ember_Primrose> anyone got a link to sangars panel
L840[13:26:05] <Forecaster> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sxo2pYpUg
L841[13:26:31] * Mimiru pokes MichiBot
L842[13:26:35] <Mimiru> You ok there...?
L843[13:26:43] <Ember_Primrose> can't watch that its private
L844[13:26:47] <Mimiru> "
L845[13:26:47] <Mimiru> An error occurred during validation."
L846[13:26:52] <Ember_Primrose> ^
L847[13:26:58] <Mimiru> Yeah which is why MichiBot couldn't get anything
L848[13:27:04] <Forecaster> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sxo2pYpUg8
L849[13:27:07] <MichiBot> OpenOS 1.6 Changes and Additions [BTM16 2.0] [English] | length: 1h, 5m 20s | Likes: 6 Dislikes: 1 Views: 104 | by Mighty Pirates
L850[13:27:16] <Forecaster> accidentally cut off the last character
L851[13:27:28] * Ember_Primrose pets MichiBot
L852[13:27:28] * MichiBot Purrs
L853[13:27:37] <Forecaster> maybe check that the id is the right length :>
L854[13:27:56] <Ember_Primrose> that is payonels panel
L855[13:28:22] <Ember_Primrose> im talking about the TIS-3D one
L856[13:28:32] <Forecaster> oh woops
L857[13:28:33] <Forecaster> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1R-PVmGLpI
L858[13:28:34] <MichiBot> TIS-3D, OpenComputers and everything in-between [BTM16 2.0] [English] | length: 42m 54s | Likes: 11 Dislikes: 0 Views: 226 | by Mighty Pirates
L859[13:28:53] <Ember_Primrose> %quote payonel
L860[13:28:55] <MichiBot> Quote #29: <payonel> %quote payonel
L861[13:29:00] <Ember_Primrose> %quote payonel
L862[13:29:00] <MichiBot> Quote #49: <payonel> Inari: had a good time bashing with you
L863[13:29:06] <Ember_Primrose> %quote payonel
L864[13:29:06] <MichiBot> Quote #69: <payonel> I love the tomatoes, you guys are wonderful!
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L866[13:46:58] <Forecaster> bah
L867[13:47:07] <Forecaster> I hate ctrl + y as redo
L868[13:47:19] <Forecaster> stupid np++
L869[13:49:02] <Forecaster> you can bind a pile of encodings to shortcuts, but you can't rebind undo/redo >:
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L871[13:54:18] <Lizzy> Sangar, do you know if anyone recorded the OC talk?
L872[13:54:51] <Forecaster> which one?
L873[13:55:14] <Lizzy> the OC talk
L874[13:55:14] <Forecaster> there are recordings of both sangars and payonels talks
L875[13:55:22] <Lizzy> not openos, oc
L876[13:55:37] <Forecaster> sangars was about oc afaik?
L877[13:55:41] <Forecaster> I haven't watched it yet
L878[13:55:46] <Forecaster> payels was about openos
L879[13:56:02] <Lizzy> yes, which is why i'm asking if anyone recorded the oc one
L880[13:56:14] <Forecaster> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1R-PVmGLpI
L881[13:56:14] <MichiBot> TIS-3D, OpenComputers and everything in-between [BTM16 2.0] [English] | length: 42m 54s | Likes: 11 Dislikes: 0 Views: 234 | by Mighty Pirates
L882[13:57:27] <Forecaster> I said there were recordings of both
L883[13:59:44] <xandaros> How do you get out of the cyberware booth? ...
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L886[14:02:08] <xandaros> meh
L887[14:14:29] <Forecaster> wait what
L888[14:14:39] <Forecaster> a robot automatically picks up blocks it breaks?
L889[14:18:54] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhnoSREmWVY
L890[14:18:54] <MichiBot> EEVblog #881 - Fontus Self Filling Water Bottle BUSTED! | length: 15m 42s | Likes: 4969 Dislikes: 138 Views: 244700 | by EEVblog
L891[14:19:06] <Forecaster> seen it :P
L892[14:19:21] <Inari> all these nonsense crowdfunding brojects
L893[14:19:22] <Inari> :s
L894[14:19:28] <Inari> >brojects
L895[14:19:31] <Inari> no clue how i typoed that
L896[14:19:42] <Forecaster> heh, yeah
L897[14:20:28] <Forecaster> OH
L898[14:20:29] <Forecaster> um
L899[14:20:36] <Forecaster> hello, copy of my robot...
L900[14:20:41] <Forecaster> well, this is awkward...
L901[14:24:45] <Forecaster> wow, I didn't expect that...
L902[14:24:46] <Forecaster> oO
L903[14:25:07] <Forecaster> Sangar: did you know robots could get duplicated?
L904[14:25:14] <Forecaster> probably due to chunkloading magic
L905[14:25:25] <Inari> TIl yuo can blackout and drown without ever feeling that you needed to breathe :o
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L910[14:31:26] <Inari> so
L911[14:31:30] <Inari> i have a new masterplan
L912[14:31:38] <Forecaster> does it involve tentacles+
L913[14:31:41] <Inari> salt water is bad for us because the saltiness of our cell sis lower than it
L914[14:31:49] <Inari> so we just need to raise our saltinessa bove sea water level
L915[14:31:50] <Inari> and \o/
L916[14:31:52] <Inari> :P
L917[14:32:22] <Forecaster> you can do that by drinking seawater, or consuming salt :D
L918[14:32:31] <Forecaster> the problem is that doing that is bad for you
L919[14:35:50] <Ember_Primrose> :D
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L921[14:41:37] <Skye> Inari, so DNA modification
L922[14:45:26] <Ember_Primrose> why no evaporate the water leaving the salt behind?
L923[14:46:14] <Ember_Primrose> and collect the steam above it where it trickles down to a container, coolint down on its way, thus becoming water>
L924[14:50:55] <Forecaster> that's harder than it sounds
L925[14:52:44] <Vexatos> <Inari> TIl yuo can blackout and drown without ever feeling that you needed to breathe :o
L926[14:52:49] <Vexatos> you can actually suffocate that way
L927[14:53:10] <Vexatos> depending on the dosage you break up to 70% of your bones in the process though
L928[14:53:13] <Vexatos> before dying
L929[14:53:43] <Inari> break bones how? Oo
L930[14:54:26] <Vexatos> muscles don't like not having oxygen
L931[14:54:32] <Vexatos> no matter what your brain thinks
L932[14:54:40] <Inari> haha
L933[14:54:49] <Ember_Primrose> Forecaster, yay for twilight forest episodes
L934[14:54:58] <Inari> well if you pass out while underwater its not like you can domuch :D
L935[14:55:19] <Vexatos> this game is fun :U
L936[14:55:20] <Vexatos> help
L937[14:55:29] <Vexatos> I am not used to playing PC games
L938[14:55:31] <Inari> wht game
L939[14:55:36] <Ember_Primrose> ^
L940[14:55:38] <Vexatos> this is the first time since 2012 that I bought one
L941[14:55:43] <Vexatos> uuuh Stardew Valley
L942[14:55:47] <Inari> ah yeah
L943[14:55:48] <Inari> its great
L944[14:55:48] <Inari> :P
L945[14:55:51] <Ember_Primrose> +1
L946[14:55:56] <Vexatos> Just found out it got its Linux port
L947[14:55:58] <Vexatos> so I bought it
L948[14:56:03] <Vexatos> And now I'm stuck there D:
L949[14:56:24] <Ember_Primrose> */kill
L950[14:59:05] <Forecaster> hah
L951[14:59:22] <Ember_Primrose> Forecaster, ep 166
L952[14:59:29] <Inari> Vexatos: i like its music
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L954[14:59:40] <Vexatos> it's a good game for trying to relax
L955[14:59:50] <Vexatos> I don't think I am capable of ever actually relaxing
L956[14:59:52] <Vexatos> but I can try
L957[15:01:55] <Inari> heh relaxing
L958[15:04:03] <Forecaster> heh trying
L959[15:04:33] <Inari> heh capability
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L964[15:42:35] <mort> When the stack trace is somewhat long, it's too long to see the top, making it rather useless. How do I see the whole message?
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L966[15:47:22] <Forecaster> redirect the output to a file
L967[15:47:53] <Ember_Primrose> but how?
L968[15:48:11] <Forecaster> assuming you're using a recent dev-build you should be able to do something like "script 2> outputfile"
L969[15:48:14] <Forecaster> I think?
L970[15:48:20] <Ember_Primrose> \o/
L971[15:48:47] <Lizzy> for stuff that prints to stderr, yep. stdout is just script > somefile
L972[15:49:11] <Forecaster> yeah
L973[15:49:16] <mort> I tried doing that, but it didn't work.. The file was created, but nothing was written to it and stderr was printed to the screen
L974[15:49:28] <Forecaster> which one?
L975[15:49:33] <Ember_Primrose> is their an example anywhere
L976[15:57:55] * gamax92 pokes payonel
L977[16:00:15] <gamax92> .tell payonel stack traces from crashing programs cannot be redirected to stderr
L978[16:00:18] <gamax92> %tell payonel stack traces from crashing programs cannot be redirected to stderr
L979[16:00:19] <MichiBot> gamax92: payonel will be notified of this message when next seen.
L980[16:00:45] <Forecaster> mort: did you try the 2> ?
L981[16:00:54] <Forecaster> or the > or both?
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L983[16:02:16] <gamax92> I did both and both fail
L984[16:02:27] <Forecaster> ah
L985[16:02:27] <Temia> That's concerning.
L986[16:02:41] <gamax92> anyway made an issue for it too
L987[16:05:26] <gamax92> >_> Sangar are you serious.
L988[16:05:49] <Inari> gamax92: what did Sangar do
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L990[16:24:25] <Forecaster> #lua 914 / 17
L991[16:24:29] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 53.764705882353
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L993[16:26:44] <Forecaster> #lua 932 / 17
L994[16:26:45] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 54.823529411765
L995[16:27:00] <Forecaster> #lua 17 * 55
L996[16:27:00] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 935
L997[16:27:56] <Forecaster> 55 * 67
L998[16:28:06] <Forecaster> #lua 55 * 67
L999[16:28:06] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 3685
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L1001[16:28:33] <Forecaster> that's how many posts that will be required to complete the bridge
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L1003[16:28:49] <Forecaster> 3685 / 8
L1004[16:28:54] <Forecaster> #lua 3685 / 8
L1005[16:28:54] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 460.625
L1006[16:28:58] <Forecaster> dangit
L1007[16:29:05] <Forecaster> 460 boxes...
L1008[16:29:16] <Forecaster> 461 / 64
L1009[16:29:23] <Forecaster> dammit
L1010[16:29:27] <Forecaster> #lua 461 / 64
L1011[16:29:28] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 7.203125
L1012[16:30:16] <Forecaster> 7 stacks of boxes
L1013[16:36:36] <Mimiru> Today/Yesterday links now use the parser
L1014[16:36:41] <Mimiru> and unless anyone has suggestions I'm done
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L1016[16:37:32] <Forecaster> I'm good I think :>
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L1018[16:39:03] <Mimiru> I do have some other cases I'm going to handle in the parser
L1019[16:39:07] <Forecaster> I went to "parser.php" by accident with no arguments
L1020[16:39:10] <Mimiru> like kicks and topic.. but I'm too lazy
L1021[16:39:12] <Forecaster> it said Warning: fopen(): Filename cannot be empty in /home/znc/.znc/moddata/log/neo/esper/#oc/parser.php on line 131
L1022[16:40:39] <Mimiru> fix't
L1023[16:40:46] <Forecaster> :>
L1024[16:41:42] <Mimiru> the line parser is totally stolen from SSS lol
L1025[16:41:50] <Forecaster> :P
L1026[16:41:50] <Mimiru> mainly cause I SUCK at regex
L1027[16:42:04] <Mimiru> elseif (preg_match('/^\[(?<time>\d{2}:\d{2}(:\d{2})?)\] \*\*\* Quits: (?<nick>\S+) \((?<host>\S+)\) \((?<reason>.*\))$/', $line, $matches)) {
L1028[16:42:13] <Mimiru> And I had to modify that to get the reason
L1029[16:42:22] <Mimiru> I learned how to do named groups in preg today
L1030[16:42:46] <Mimiru> Oh, right I had to modify it to get host and reason
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L1032[16:42:59] <Forecaster> with a regex designer I'm good with regex :P
L1033[16:43:46] <Forecaster> I tend to use regex101.com
L1034[16:43:49] <Forecaster> it's nice
L1035[16:48:06] <Ember_Primrose> how does regex in nei work?
L1036[16:48:20] <Forecaster> nei supports regex?
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L1038[16:48:37] <Ember_Primrose> yep
L1039[16:48:46] <Forecaster> huh, so it does
L1040[16:49:02] <Forecaster> well, generally if something supports regex you just input regex :P
L1041[16:49:10] <Forecaster> and it works
L1042[16:49:22] <Forecaster> sometimes there are restrictions, like certain features not working
L1043[16:49:40] <Ember_Primrose> ok, so no ping extension in discord, but in hexchat i get +30s
L1044[16:50:21] <alekso56> anyone know how to use the commandblock nbt in oc debug cards?
L1045[16:50:43] <Forecaster> I know how to use commandblock nbt?
L1046[16:50:51] <Forecaster> I imagine it's the same
L1047[16:51:52] <Ember_Primrose> @Forecaster so, how did you get it too work? cause my knowledge from npp++ aint working
L1048[16:52:53] <Forecaster> to test it?
L1049[16:53:00] <Forecaster> I just did .*stick
L1050[16:55:22] <Forecaster> for me that is slightly more specific than just stick
L1051[16:55:29] <alekso56> Forecaster: i tried a simple {"command:say test"} and it said missing nbt type
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L1053[16:58:09] <Forecaster> why do you need nbt exactly?
L1054[16:58:16] <Forecaster> have you tried just giving it a string?
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L1056[17:01:03] <Forecaster> hm, what is the name of the oc fake player?
L1057[17:02:48] <Ember_Primrose> @Forecaster can you give me a more specific example? like /d or [*a-z]
L1058[17:03:43] <Mimiru> %lookup athena.pc-logix.com
L1059[17:03:50] <Mimiru> ._>
L1060[17:03:51] <MichiBot> Mimiru: DNS Info for athena.pc-logix.com 149.56.6.199
L1061[17:04:04] <Forecaster> um
L1062[17:04:28] <Forecaster> well, if you do "er$" it should show you everything whose tooltip ends with "er"
L1063[17:04:55] <Ember_Primrose> ok, so it doesn't use perl regex
L1064[17:04:59] <Forecaster> it's kind of weird because NEI includes both the name and tooltip in the search
L1065[17:05:34] <Ember_Primrose> wonder if ther is a way to exclude that
L1066[17:05:50] <Forecaster> without modifying NEI? I doubt it
L1067[17:05:54] <Forecaster> I've never seen a setting for it
L1068[17:06:19] <Ember_Primrose> no, maybe it is a regex operator
L1069[17:06:59] <Forecaster> well, maybe if there is a line-break in there
L1070[17:07:56] <Ember_Primrose> mmm
L1071[17:08:07] <Ember_Primrose> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L1072[17:08:10] <Forecaster> dunno what mc would be using for that though
L1073[17:08:17] <Forecaster> it's not \n or \r
L1074[17:08:28] <Ember_Primrose> maybe \W
L1075[17:08:59] <Kodos> Might try a pilcrow
L1076[17:09:11] <Forecaster> that's a non-word
L1077[17:09:21] <Kodos> No?
L1078[17:09:25] <Ember_Primrose> in perl it white space
L1079[17:09:50] <Forecaster> in regex it will match any letter, number or underscore
L1080[17:09:58] <Forecaster> and Java has proper regex
L1081[17:10:16] <Ember_Primrose> do you have a link for regex docs
L1082[17:11:27] <Forecaster> it's all over the place but here's one I picked at random http://www.rexegg.com/regex-quickstart.html
L1083[17:14:19] <Ember_Primrose> ooh thanks
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L1085[17:17:34] * Ember_Primrose yawns
L1086[17:17:39] <Ember_Primrose> goodnight
L1087[17:17:46] <Forecaster> night
L1088[17:17:58] <alekso56> Forecaster: i tried doing everything, but it's asking for nbt data type
L1089[17:18:23] <Forecaster> I tried to use it but it just said it doesn't have permission
L1090[17:18:37] <Forecaster> and I don't know the name of the fake player so I can't authorize it
L1091[17:18:49] <Mimiru> Night Ember_Primrose
L1092[17:19:11] <alekso56> Forecaster: im using component.debug.getWorld.setTileNBT
L1093[17:19:29] <Forecaster> uh
L1094[17:19:31] <Forecaster> what
L1095[17:19:33] <Forecaster> why?
L1096[17:19:47] <Forecaster> what are you trying to do?
L1097[17:19:56] <alekso56> trying to get the commandblock to say hi
L1098[17:19:57] <alekso56> :v
L1099[17:20:09] <Forecaster> ...
L1100[17:20:17] <Forecaster> debug.runCommand("say hi")
L1101[17:20:22] <alekso56> permission denied
L1102[17:20:44] <Forecaster> then you need to OP oc's fake player
L1103[17:21:24] <Lizzy> or if you right/shift rightclick the debug card in your hotbar you can bind it to yourself IIRC
L1104[17:21:41] <Forecaster> it's "[OpenComputers]" by default apparently
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L1106[17:23:36] <Forecaster> yeah binding it works
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L1108[17:24:43] <Forecaster> which you have to do because you can't op a fake player apparently
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L1110[17:27:03] * Mimiru burns Athena
L1111[17:27:22] * Lizzy burns mibbit and it's stupid fucking users who cant read the fucking topic of a channel
L1112[17:27:36] <Mimiru> Yeah Mibbit users are usually pretty dumb
L1113[17:28:06] <Lizzy> sharex pls
L1114[17:28:21] <Lizzy> Mimiru, https://www.theender.net/shx/zion/hexchat_2016-07-31_23-28-26.png notice what i put in the topic in bold ¬_¬
L1115[17:28:27] <Lizzy> er
L1116[17:28:30] <Lizzy> s/bold/caps
L1117[17:28:31] <MichiBot> <Lizzy> Mimiru, https://www.theender.net/shx/zion/hexchat_2016-07-31_23-28-26.png notice what i put in the topic in caps ¬_¬
L1118[17:29:10] <Mimiru> lol
L1119[17:29:11] <Mimiru> nice
L1120[17:29:39] <Forecaster> have the command slap them in the face :P
L1121[17:30:12] <Izaya> TIL there's an EnderBNC channel
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L1123[17:31:56] <Mimiru> Theres one for mine too :p
L1124[17:33:09] <Lizzy> i wonder how many channels i have log files for that just consist of me joining, going :O then leaving
L1125[17:33:48] <Mimiru> lmao
L1126[17:34:30] <Mimiru> More than 0 now, atleast
L1127[17:34:39] <Lizzy> it's at least 2
L1128[17:35:08] <Mimiru> Upgrading Athena to 16.04
L1129[17:35:33] <payonel> gamax92: stack traces stderr
L1130[17:35:44] <payonel> it's....complicated :(
L1131[17:36:13] <payonel> the shell catches the exception
L1132[17:36:25] <payonel> the piping _would have_ occurred in the command
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L1142[17:45:10] <payonel> gamax92: there is a workaround :)
L1143[17:45:21] <payonel> home # sh 2>crash.log
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L1146[17:58:23] <payonel> Magik6k: ping
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L1148[17:59:44] <payonel> Inari: i submitted a fix for the 'bad index' crash you foudn
L1149[17:59:45] <payonel> found*
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L1151[18:03:05] <payonel> ThomasRules: can you tell me about the locked eeproms?
L1152[18:03:28] <ThomasRules> no, I didn't do them - ask Magik6k
L1153[18:03:56] <payonel> oh, ok
L1154[18:04:07] <payonel> Magik6k: can you tell me about the locked eeproms?
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L1157[18:06:04] <Inari> locked eeproms/
L1158[18:06:06] <Inari> ?
L1159[18:06:20] <payonel> Inari: it was a thing i saw in the oc booth
L1160[18:06:29] <payonel> it throws an exception when i try to create a proxy of it
L1161[18:06:34] <payonel> which, broke some devfs stuff
L1162[18:06:45] <payonel> anyways, just wanted to know more about them
L1163[18:06:49] <Inari> im not sure how that helps
L1164[18:06:59] <payonel> well, nor do i
L1165[18:07:07] <payonel> Inari: anyways, i fixed the bug you reported
L1166[18:07:11] <Inari> first you can just call invoke, and second you can just program it with a diff pc xD
L1167[18:07:13] <payonel> well, in #oc at least you reported it
L1168[18:07:22] <Inari> yeah ^^
L1169[18:07:51] <payonel> i decided to emulate real shells, where if you paste multiline, it'll process each newline as an enter
L1170[18:08:22] <payonel> so on paste (event name "clipboard") i read for newlines, and signal enter key hit and split the paste text
L1171[18:08:44] <payonel> the bug was that the shell was getting lost up above the screen
L1172[18:09:11] <payonel> forcing the [enter] hit for each line keeps the terminal position correct
L1173[18:10:30] <Mimiru> %lookup bast.pc-logix.com
L1174[18:10:32] <MichiBot> Mimiru: DNS Info for bast.pc-logix.com 149.56.6.197 2607:5300:60:9553::2bad:babe
L1175[18:10:34] <payonel> note you could interrupt (^c) it while it was printing all the lines
L1176[18:11:33] <Magik6k> payonel, http://mpt.magik6k.net/api/file/lockloader/usr/bin/lockl-flash.lua
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L1178[18:12:07] <Magik6k> payonel, it's openloader + http://hastebin.com/joqurofolo.lua
L1179[18:13:04] <payonel> Magik6k: ok i'll test with that, make my devfs compatible with it
L1180[18:13:14] <payonel> thanks
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L1194[18:52:03] <xandaros> payonel: In your panel you mentioned querying system info with files in /dev. Shouldn't those rather be in /sys or /proc and have /dev reserved for actual device files?
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L1196[18:56:49] <payonel> xandaros: lshw doesn't use /dev, lshw is used to query device info. it's not all the device info, there is more
L1197[18:57:10] <payonel> i might add more to make querying device info easier
L1198[18:57:19] <payonel> and yes, that would fit better in /sys and /proc
L1199[18:57:50] <xandaros> Alright, maybe I misunderstood, then
L1200[18:58:04] <payonel> but, every virtual mount point costs about 1.5k just to have minimally available fs data
L1201[18:58:07] <payonel> 1.5k ram
L1202[18:58:25] <xandaros> ouch
L1203[18:58:36] <payonel> and, i'm so tight on ram for low mem systems :) it doesn't feel like /sys and /proc are THAT important
L1204[18:58:48] <payonel> so what i might do .. is optionally load those mount points
L1205[18:59:01] <payonel> if your system is low on mem during boot, i may skip other mount points
L1206[18:59:03] <payonel> OR
L1207[18:59:07] <payonel> i could cheat, and abuse /dev
L1208[18:59:14] <payonel> that would be cheaper
L1209[18:59:22] <payonel> in fact, it'd be free
L1210[18:59:26] <payonel> unless you queries /dev
L1211[18:59:31] <payonel> quieried*
L1212[18:59:56] <xandaros> And this is where boot options would be nice :D
L1213[19:00:29] <payonel> right now /dev just has null, random, eeprom, and eeprom-data
L1214[19:00:31] <xandaros> btw, when running a program - is it loaded into ram in its entirety?
L1215[19:00:40] <payonel> yes
L1216[19:00:56] <payonel> unless you create a delayloaded library and load it via the package loader (require)
L1217[19:01:21] <xandaros> ...guess I need dead code analysis, and inliner and a minifier...
L1218[19:01:25] <payonel> but, that's ... available but not intended for users
L1219[19:01:43] <payonel> as for minifying, it's impact is very small
L1220[19:01:54] <payonel> the larger cost is in the code chunk generated by load
L1221[19:02:01] <payonel> the actual source code is gc'd
L1222[19:02:14] <xandaros> Ah, that's good to know
L1223[19:02:41] <payonel> are you concenred about memory?
L1224[19:02:54] <payonel> the best thing i find is to separate programs
L1225[19:03:00] <payonel> and load files separately if needed
L1226[19:03:01] <MajGenRelativity> I wish I could automate CF foam spraying with robots
L1227[19:03:16] <xandaros> I am very concerned. I don't know how much memory I use, but my hello world program uses almost all of the highest tier disk
L1228[19:03:19] <payonel> xandaros: in fact, you should look at /bin/install
L1229[19:03:22] <xandaros> Granted, a lot of the files are never loaded
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L1231[19:04:07] <MajGenRelativity> hey TheFox
L1232[19:04:09] <TheFox> Hi everyone
L1233[19:04:17] <TheFox> Hello MajGenRelativity, whats up?
L1234[19:04:21] <MajGenRelativity> not much
L1235[19:04:28] <payonel> xandaros: https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/blob/2a5de6868afaf55a849de47a57c686fef23130b1/src/main/resources/assets/opencomputers/loot/openos/bin/install.lua
L1236[19:04:29] <MajGenRelativity> TheFox, working on my Donald Trump wall in MC
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L1238[19:04:42] <payonel> xandaros: install in its entirety takes about 40k i think
L1239[19:04:55] <payonel> but on a single-stick T1 system i only have ~28k available
L1240[19:05:01] <payonel> so i split install into 3 files
L1241[19:05:11] <MajGenRelativity> Because, as Forecaster and I discussed, I need to keep out suspicious sheep wearing capes and carrying anti-matter explosives TheFox
L1242[19:05:28] <payonel> the first split is to load the basic install code, the best case scenario when there is only 1 install disk, and 1 hdd to install to
L1243[19:05:52] <TheFox> ok, is that it? Forecaster must be feeling down, he is usually way more random then that ;)\
L1244[19:05:56] <payonel> after `install` figures out the instructions to run (cp from where to where) -- i release to gc the 'basic' code
L1245[19:06:06] <payonel> then i have enough ram again to run the copy (the install)
L1246[19:07:02] <xandaros> Well, this is not exactly something I can do
L1247[19:07:27] <xandaros> Getting rid of dead code is pretty good start, I think
L1248[19:07:42] <TheFox> MajGenRelativity: i figured it was to keep annoying Foxes from getting too close to your fusion reactor
L1249[19:07:43] <xandaros> Probably more than 80% of my code will never be called
L1250[19:07:54] <MajGenRelativity> TheFox, nah
L1251[19:08:04] <MajGenRelativity> although, you should probably still join me :)
L1252[19:08:25] <xandaros> Especially since I have a habit of including modules even if I only use a single function in it :P
L1253[19:08:26] <TheFox> you mean team wise?
L1254[19:08:41] <MajGenRelativity> TheFox, nah
L1255[19:08:44] <MajGenRelativity> I mean hop on the server
L1256[19:08:53] <payonel> xandaros: well, if the module is already loaded, it's free
L1257[19:08:58] <TheFox> oh, sure. gimme maybe 15?
L1258[19:09:06] <payonel> because package.loaded keeps them in memory
L1259[19:09:18] <MajGenRelativity> ok
L1260[19:09:31] <MajGenRelativity> although don't take too long, because I gotta go eventually
L1261[19:09:32] <xandaros> Well, I hope they get gc'd once they aren't needed anymore...
L1262[19:09:39] <payonel> from package.loaded? no
L1263[19:09:53] <payonel> require() puts them in package.loaded
L1264[19:09:57] <payonel> where they live forever
L1265[19:10:02] <xandaros> ...
L1266[19:10:16] <xandaros> Even after my program terminates?
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L1268[19:10:19] <payonel> yes
L1269[19:11:10] <xandaros> Guess I'll have to figure out how to clean that up, then...
L1270[19:11:46] <payonel> well, you could use package.loaded.libname = nil
L1271[19:11:56] <payonel> or, don't use require
L1272[19:12:23] <payonel> things i do in boot have to remain loaded
L1273[19:12:34] <payonel> like, if you were to: package.loaded.filesystem=nil
L1274[19:12:38] <payonel> that'd crash things
L1275[19:12:44] <xandaros> I'd have to either modify the compiler to not use require or write a post-processor changing it. Both don't seem like good options
L1276[19:12:47] <payonel> or package.loaded.process=nil :)
L1277[19:13:33] <xandaros> Currently thinking of saving which keys exist when the program starts and then deleting everything else afterwards. Not sure if there's async stuff that could fuck this up, though
L1278[19:13:51] <payonel> xandaros: i think a nice option would be a modified require: require("libname", true) -- true: use weak ref
L1279[19:14:40] <xandaros> local oldReq = require function require(s) oldReq(s, true) end -- :P
L1280[19:15:08] <payonel> :) i have to step away, laters
L1281[19:15:27] <xandaros> cu
L1282[19:19:11] <TheFox> MajGenRelativity: do you mind if i msg you?
L1283[19:19:18] <MajGenRelativity> TheFox, nah
L1284[19:19:28] <Inari> lewd private messaging
L1285[19:19:32] <MajGenRelativity> you can msg you all you want
L1286[19:19:35] <MajGenRelativity> srsly Inari
L1287[19:19:40] <TheFox> no InarI
L1288[19:19:42] <TheFox> bad Inari
L1289[19:19:43] <TheFox> bad
L1290[19:23:33] <TheFox> Inari: anything new?
L1291[19:23:42] <Inari> ?
L1292[19:24:09] <TheFox> how are you doing today?
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L1294[19:25:08] <S3> Whee
L1295[19:25:10] <S3> getting there.
L1296[19:25:22] <TheFox> hello S3
L1297[19:25:41] <S3> I have too much hard drive space
L1298[19:25:50] <TheFox> funny, i dont have enough
L1299[19:25:58] <S3> This laptop has 750 GB
L1300[19:26:02] <S3> I have never used more than 100 GB
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L1302[19:26:19] <TheFox> i have a 128GB SSD on my mac air.
L1303[19:26:22] <TheFox> i need more
L1304[19:26:59] <S3> My first hard drive was just over 100 MB XD
L1305[19:27:11] <TheFox> seemed big back then didn't it?
L1306[19:27:12] <S3> I remember as a kid
L1307[19:27:19] <S3> compressing it to have like 200 MB or so
L1308[19:27:33] <S3> it was big
L1309[19:27:42] <TheFox> "was"
L1310[19:27:49] <S3> it was too small to run Windows 98 though
L1311[19:28:00] <S3> so I had windows NT 4.0 Workstation and Windows 95 at one time on it
L1312[19:28:02] <TheFox> i never want to see/hear/know about 98 again
L1313[19:28:16] <S3> both came in a set of floppy disks
L1314[19:28:35] <TheFox> floppy...disks...
L1315[19:28:35] <TheFox> XD
L1316[19:28:45] <Kasen> w98 was great - it was like w95, except took the entirety of your hard drive
L1317[19:28:49] <TheFox> I'm just playing. i actually need a floppy disk
L1318[19:29:09] <S3> iirc windows 95 was on more than 10 disks
L1319[19:29:16] <TheFox> w98 implemented a ton of new features to windows, must of which where restart functions :D
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L1321[19:29:26] <S3> windows 98 though I only had a CD for
L1322[19:29:31] <S3> I don't think they ever made disks for it
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L1325[19:29:59] <S3> however I remember my XP box asking for a floppy disk with SATA drivers on it..
L1326[19:30:01] <S3> I mean wtf
L1327[19:30:05] <S3> in 2001?!
L1328[19:30:09] <S3> or 2002, I forget
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L1332[19:35:10] <Inari> ~oc robot
L1333[19:35:11] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/api:robot
L1334[19:35:29] <Inari> ~oc inventroy controller
L1335[19:35:30] <ocdoc> Predicted http://ocd.cil.li/component:inventory_controller
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L1342[19:53:06] <Hyst> time to clean my drives. Too much stuff.
L1343[19:54:24] <TheFox> ah, one of my least favorite past times Hysat
L1344[19:54:26] <TheFox> Hyst*
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L1346[19:55:40] <Hyst> ...Would a fileserver be reasonable at all to build? Or is that a pipedream :p
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L1348[19:56:30] <TheFox> i dont know, i have thought about it.
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L1350[19:58:47] <Hyst> I mean, I don't really know what I'd need for it..
L1351[19:59:18] <TheFox> i would using it to store large files that are to big to have on my laptops SSD
L1352[19:59:33] <Hyst> i suppose i could just install another two drives. >_>
L1353[20:00:21] <TheFox> your in a better spot then me then. i have a computer i am using as a all around server, but i can afford to put new things in it right now :(
L1354[20:00:44] <TheFox> media,web,file, it does all of them, but it does them sub-par.
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L1356[20:03:39] <TheFox> so, its obvious what InariXMPP is. but what is WB?
L1357[20:04:47] <InariWB> https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/4vhkdw/my_daughter_has_spent_nearly_a_year_covering_the/
L1358[20:04:53] <InariWB> TheFox: Whitebear
L1359[20:05:38] <TheFox> ah,
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L1361[20:06:17] <InariWB> just my alternat enick fro when Inari is taken :P
L1362[20:06:20] <InariWB> since Inari Whitebear
L1363[20:06:30] <InariWB> but Inari_Whitebear is kinda long for IRC
L1364[20:06:41] <TheFox> why not just ghost using NickServ?
L1365[20:06:51] <InariWB> cause you still need to login with some kinda nick? :P
L1366[20:07:08] <Hyst> Mhm
L1367[20:07:10] <Hyst> Hyst uses `.
L1368[20:07:19] <Hyst> But Hyst also has a laptop that hyst sometimes keeps online at the same time
L1369[20:07:43] <TheFox> and host also apparently like speaking in the 3rd person
L1370[20:07:52] <TheFox> :)
L1371[20:08:00] <TheFox> is that true Hyst?
L1372[20:08:14] <TheFox> oops, autocorrect got me once, Hyst not Host
L1373[20:08:32] <Hyst> :D yep
L1374[20:09:03] <TheFox> %quote Hyst
L1375[20:09:05] <MichiBot> TheFox: No quotes found for Hyst
L1376[20:09:09] <TheFox> %quote '
L1377[20:09:09] <MichiBot> TheFox: No quotes found for '
L1378[20:09:11] <TheFox> aw
L1379[20:11:10] <TheFox> %quote Inari
L1380[20:11:12] <MichiBot> Quote #28: <Inari> wokrs ownderuflly!
L1381[20:11:24] <TheFox> oh, yes. that one
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L1383[20:12:12] <Hyst> ugh
L1384[20:12:21] <TheFox> what? files still?
L1385[20:12:22] <Hyst> I'd kill for Stickynotes on windows to have slightly more functionality.
L1386[20:12:39] <TheFox> haha, i can't think of a single use for Sticky notes so i dont use them
L1387[20:12:48] <Hyst> Being able to pin to foreground for example or change the font color for it would be great for me
L1388[20:13:04] <Hyst> I have something I want to keep a note of that I don't want to have to check :P I will, if it's not pinned to foreground, forget to check it
L1389[20:13:09] <TheFox> sounds like you want the Sticky Notes i have on mac
L1390[20:15:30] <TheFox> by the way, webchat on oc.cil.li appears to be broken
L1391[20:15:58] <TheFox> to who ever else might use web chat instead of an IRC^
L1392[20:16:01] <Mimiru> how so?
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L1394[20:16:11] <TheFox> "failed to connect to remote server"
L1395[20:16:14] <TestUser> Works for me.
L1396[20:16:30] <TheFox> of course it worked for you, because overtime i report a problem, it fixes its self
L1397[20:16:32] <TestUser> It uses the default EsperNet webchat.
L1398[20:16:56] <TheFox> i hate that problems solve them selfs when i report them
L1399[20:16:58] <TheFox> :(
L1400[20:18:26] <Mimiru> running my own PoGO map http://michi.pc-logix.com/chrome_2016-07-31_20-18-38.png
L1401[20:19:17] <Hyst> Yes, blizzard. Because the fact that EVERY ONE OF YOUR GAMES ON YOUR LAUNCHER use "Kick me off if I log in elsewhere" mode, you should totally still have to log me out on my PC if I log into diablo on my laptop.
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L1406[20:22:28] <TheFox> Hyst, annoying game dev issues?
L1407[20:22:41] <Hyst> suppose. :p
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L1409[20:25:53] <TheFox> i find the high likely hood of my linux breaking and my wifi cutting out slightly disturbing :(
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L1415[20:50:08] <S3> ok wtf
L1416[20:50:23] <S3> so I have this Dell laptop I got with a clit mouse right
L1417[20:50:25] <S3> which is all I use
L1418[20:50:29] <S3> the clit mice are that is
L1419[20:50:53] <S3> but the mouse is part of the keyboard controller, so I can't use both at the same time. Nice going, Dell idiots
L1420[20:51:07] <S3> Thinkpads keep them seperate
L1421[20:51:26] <S3> I can't play minecraft with the clit mouse because I can't use the mouse and keyboard at the same time XD
L1422[20:51:42] <S3> what a bunch of do do heads
L1423[20:51:55] <TheFox> I'm sure thats not the word you wanted to use...'
L1424[20:52:31] <TheFox> :)
L1425[20:52:44] <S3> it's what it's called :D
L1426[20:52:58] <S3> https://xkcd.com/243/
L1427[20:52:59] <MichiBot> XKCD Comic Name: Appropriate Term Posted on: 4/2/2007
L1428[21:04:40] <greaser|btm> i think i'll whip up a quick doc but i think i've solved the 20fps-limit gpu issue for at least OC2
L1429[21:04:50] <greaser|btm> w/o having to resort to a shader system
L1430[21:05:52] <gamax92> I got bored of crashy low tps/fps land
L1431[21:07:44] <S3> for the oc gpu?
L1432[21:10:29] * ` uses Hyst
L1433[21:15:17] <greaser|btm> mostly something that can be used for OC2 but could possibly be backported maybe
L1434[21:15:58] <greaser|btm> fun thing is that you could theoretically track FPS lag using this technique, the idea is ultimately to have something similar to the PS1 GPU's interface
L1435[21:16:10] <greaser|btm> except the command bus would be 8 bits wide and not 32
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L1437[21:21:00] * Hyst pokes `.
L1438[21:21:00] <Hyst> wat.
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L1442[21:30:27] <Saphire> I'm feeling terrible
L1443[21:30:35] <Saphire> q-q
L1444[21:30:51] <Saphire> I just... can't focus my right eye
L1445[21:31:47] <Saphire> I mean, I'm looking at finger that's in front of me and then at most of paper with text a bit further.. and when I switch focus from fiber to that text.. nothing changes
L1446[21:33:26] <TheFox> Hey Saphire, whats up?
L1447[21:33:38] <TheFox> what did you do to your eye>
L1448[21:33:48] <Saphire> terrible eyesight
L1449[21:34:14] <Saphire> years of nonstop looking at the screen and making keys/mouse
L1450[21:34:52] <Saphire> fuck that *puts glasses on*
L1451[21:37:10] <TheFox> oh, you said your right eye didn't focus and i though it was something out of the normal, like you hurt the left side of your head, REALLY badly
L1452[21:37:15] <snowden89> i find stuff only looks good on the screen?
L1453[21:37:21] <TheFox> but your other explanation makes more sense
L1454[21:37:33] <snowden89> everything else is lifeless and dead.
L1455[21:37:46] <greaser|btm> GPU idea draft: https://gist.github.com/iamgreaser/e228d5a2f0fa4abf9997f7e13a6be70b
L1456[21:37:49] * snowden89 wants implanted AR it will bring joy to life again
L1457[21:38:40] <TheFox> uh
L1458[21:38:43] <snowden89> uh
L1459[21:38:55] <snowden89> is it normal that i look at this confused?
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L1461[21:39:39] <snowden89> lol 320FPS
L1462[21:39:59] <snowden89> i dont think that would help minecraft does not exceed 60 for me :P
L1463[21:40:35] <snowden89> so the vram in OC2 GPU
L1464[21:41:17] <snowden89> you would send the text to memory and that memory is read out on screen?
L1465[21:42:12] <snowden89> hmm interesting I wish i had time to play oc these days :( everything now is work sleep and try and squeeze in some programming challanges
L1466[21:42:17] <snowden89> to keep the mind alive
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L1469[21:56:06] <greaser|btm> snowden89: you'd bash that into an I/O port
L1470[21:56:10] <greaser|btm> or use DMA to load it in
L1471[21:56:34] <greaser|btm> and there'd be some way to check how many ticks and subticks the GPU is ahead or behind
L1472[21:57:28] <snowden89> hows btm going>?
L1473[21:57:44] <gamax92> btm's over
L1474[21:57:46] <greaser|btm> server hasn't completely died
L1475[22:01:41] <gamax92> Can you compile code to a Game of Life simulation?
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L1479[22:21:10] <greaser|btm> sadly no, and if you do that you would seriously want to use hashlife to run it
L1480[22:21:31] <greaser|btm> btw the OTCA megapixel is a thing
L1481[22:21:37] <greaser|btm> sorry OCTA metapixel
L1482[22:22:38] <greaser|btm> ...OTCA dammit
L1483[22:22:42] <greaser|btm> http://conwaylife.com/w/index.php?title=OTCA_metapixel
L1484[22:28:12] <gamax92> yeah I've seen that before
L1485[22:28:52] <gamax92> I'm just trying to figure out how to make a dark theme in QuasselDroid
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L1487[22:36:12] <gamax92> bleh, it's not in ThemeUtil, I copied over all of the light stuff into the dark section and while parts of it went to what they are light, it's also still with changes
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L1494[23:14:23] <payonel> gamax92: can i turn off tail calls in the emulator?
L1495[23:14:30] <payonel> via the config
L1496[23:16:17] <gamax92> that's a lua thing.
L1497[23:16:51] <gamax92> payonel: https://www.lua.org/pil/6.3.html
L1498[23:19:04] <payonel> gamax92: what i meant was...i thought there was a way to run lua without tailing
L1499[23:19:08] <payonel> to see full stacks
L1500[23:21:09] <payonel> perhaps not...
L1501[23:23:15] <payonel> gamax92: btw, i have a fix for your ./abort 2> ...
L1502[23:23:40] <payonel> i wanted to talk first with magik about it, to get his perspective on some process data
L1503[23:24:18] <payonel> this is a good fix, but ... without changing much of the way the shell creates threads -- i can't fix all such situations
L1504[23:24:41] <payonel> for example, in real bash: `./foobar 2> .. ` where foobar doesn't exist, WILL redirect stderr
L1505[23:24:50] <payonel> and you see no error printed to terminal
L1506[23:24:56] <payonel> i ... can't do that
L1507[23:25:03] <payonel> not without some serious changes
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L1509[23:25:34] <payonel> i'm really thinking of leaving that alone as will-not-fix
L1510[23:25:42] <payonel> but your first case, yeah, i can fix that
L1511[23:25:53] <payonel> in fact, i found i can really simplify some things
L1512[23:26:14] <payonel> but it requires a lot of testing - this is an area of importance, to show errors properly :)
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