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L10[01:03:28] <gamax92> payonel: you around right now?
L11[01:06:18] <payonel> gamax92: actually i am
L12[01:06:26] <payonel> btw, ^d will kill cat
L13[01:06:37] <payonel> working out how to nicely propogate ^c
L14[01:06:41] <payonel> probably will have to patch later
L15[01:06:45] <payonel> i.e. not for 1.6 rc
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L17[01:07:59] <payonel> i could treat hard interrupt as input closed
L18[01:08:04] <payonel> same as ^d
L19[01:08:30] <payonel> anyways, i think i'm going to leave it as is, and patch later
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L21[01:11:15] <payonel> gamax92: i need your advice on a name
L22[01:11:30] <gamax92> goulbalt
L23[01:11:30] <payonel> magik wanted me to move the devfs to /sys
L24[01:11:37] <payonel> and sym link /dev -> /sys/dev
L25[01:11:43] <gamax92> Uhh
L26[01:11:52] <gamax92> Why
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L28[01:12:10] <payonel> mainly because /sys is appropriate for everything else that is "dynamic"
L29[01:12:19] <payonel> whereas /dev is just for devices
L30[01:12:32] <payonel> i could have multiple dynamic filesystems on /
L31[01:12:39] <payonel> but, there this stupid mem cost for each mount
L32[01:13:05] <payonel> anyways, if i go forward with this, i was considering renaming /lib/devfs.lua to /lib/sysfs.lua
L33[01:13:42] <payonel> btw, i have a fairly advanced devfs lib now, works for child devfs "mounts" under /sys
L34[01:19:15] <gamax92> payonel /sys/dev isn't even remotely the same as /dev
L35[01:24:18] <payonel> i've never used /sys/dev
L36[01:24:23] <payonel> but i see that you are correct
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L39[01:24:28] <payonel> i wonder why that was his suggesetion
L40[01:24:30] <payonel> suggestion*
L41[01:24:42] <payonel> ok, i'll commit my devfs upgrade, but without the new linkage
L42[01:24:49] <Vexatos> help http://git.io/vKz0M
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L60[02:52:16] <Izaya> whoops.
L61[02:52:19] <Izaya> overloaded a breaker
L62[02:53:21] <Temia> Eep.
L63[02:53:36] <Temia> Crummy load distribution in your house?
L64[02:54:04] <Izaya> Something like that
L65[02:54:24] <Izaya> more like everything happens in one end and there's a breaker for each end
L66[02:54:33] <Izaya> the computer room and as such the heaters are in the same end
L67[02:54:46] <Izaya> so I had to go out in the rain and flick some switches
L68[02:54:50] * Izaya is totally qualified
L69[02:57:06] <Temia> Sounds like fun. e_e
L70[02:57:33] <Temia> (and by fun I mean I am so sorry, I can relate)
L71[02:57:48] <Izaya> anyway now we have an extension cable running from the far end to the computer room for the heater
L72[02:58:07] <Izaya> so if that end flicks a breaker it's fine
L73[02:58:14] <Temia> ... uh.
L74[02:58:46] <Temia> Izaya, speaking as someone who has a roommate that's destroyed several extension cables and risked burning the house down that way,
L75[02:58:49] <Temia> Don't do that.
L76[02:59:06] <Izaya> okay I'll freeze to death then
L77[02:59:20] <Temia> Better than burning to death. Put on an extra layer.
L78[02:59:28] <Temia> But seriously.
L79[02:59:29] <Izaya> I did that
L80[02:59:32] <Izaya> made me colder
L81[02:59:34] <Izaya> :P
L82[02:59:40] <Temia> huh.
L83[03:00:02] <Izaya> anyway, damnit lost like a month of uptime
L84[03:00:05] <Izaya> >.>
L85[03:00:41] <Temia> But really though, if you're brushed up on the physical properties of electrical systems, you can imagine where the resistance of a 50 or so ft. long cable and the current load of a kilowatt space heater would bring you.
L86[03:02:18] <ThomasRules> what can I use as a control character in opencomputers that's not a /
L87[03:02:22] <ThomasRules> for chat interaction
L88[03:02:28] <Temia> \?
L89[03:02:57] <ThomasRules> seems a bit odd for commands though
L90[03:03:03] <Temia> Oh.
L91[03:03:32] <Temia> Prefixing with ! is always a classic chatbot form of address.
L92[03:06:14] <ThomasRules> ah
L93[03:06:18] <ThomasRules> ! does shout
L94[03:06:34] <Temia> ~?
L95[03:07:03] <ThomasRules> $ might work actually
L96[03:07:15] <Temia> I guess that would work too.
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L100[03:20:22] <ade124> I have no idea what to make... Уау
L101[03:20:57] <ade124> Уаү
L102[03:23:31] <ade124> How do I start making my own OS?
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L104[03:24:09] <Vexatos> init.lua
L105[03:24:29] <ade124> I know... what apis are available without OpenOS?
L106[03:24:44] <Izaya> most of computer, most of component, and the standard Lua libs
L107[03:25:19] <ade124> Okay
L108[03:25:28] <Izaya> ~w custom OS
L109[03:25:28] <ocdoc> Predicted http://ocd.cil.li/tutorial:custom_oses
L110[03:25:29] <Forecaster> sigh, new rimworld version
L111[03:25:38] <Forecaster> another thing I'd love to stream, but can't >:
L112[03:25:44] <Izaya> why can'
L113[03:25:47] <Izaya> t you?
L114[03:26:03] <Forecaster> because my computer is still too crap
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L116[03:26:16] <ade124> I wonder if I can make a computer not based on Lua (Did I learn Python for nothing?)
L117[03:26:46] <Forecaster> live encoding uses most of my cpu, which doesn't leave enough for that while also running a game
L118[03:27:03] <Vexatos> If you can make a mod, probably
L119[03:27:10] <Vexatos> you need an addon to add a python architecture.
L120[03:27:19] <ade124> Oh, so that's an architecture
L121[03:27:29] <Vexatos> ~w architecture
L122[03:27:29] <ocdoc> Predicted http://ocd.cil.li/tutorial:modding_architecture
L123[03:27:34] <ade124> Ok
L124[03:32:20] <Forecaster> that'll change on monday though hopefully, when my new motherboard arrives ^^
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L127[04:22:33] <Forecaster> I want it to be monday.
L128[04:29:03] <Izaya> I want it to be sunday
L129[04:29:11] <Forecaster> why?
L130[04:29:13] <Izaya> but that's about 4 and a half hours away
L131[04:29:19] <Izaya> because fun stuff happens on sunday
L132[04:29:37] <Forecaster> what fun stuff?
L133[04:31:46] <Izaya> https://u.sicp.me/iej6P.png
L134[04:33:27] <Forecaster> but the calendar is full of dates
L135[04:33:39] <Izaya> I know, fruits are such a pain
L136[04:34:39] <Forecaster> what's "market"?
L137[04:34:44] <Forecaster> local thing?
L138[04:34:48] <Izaya> yeah
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L140[04:39:25] <Forecaster> yeah I can see you looking forward to "market", sounds interesting
L141[04:43:53] * Lizzy remembers when the Google Play Store on Android was called the Android Market
L142[04:44:45] <Forecaster> :P
L143[04:45:02] <Forecaster> Lizzy: I don't, that was before I had a smartphone
L144[04:47:18] * Izaya has a phone around that still has the Android Market
L145[04:47:26] <Izaya> no Google account so it hasn't updated
L146[04:47:29] <Izaya> F-Droid ftw
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L150[05:01:18] * Ember_Primrose yawns as she joins the room.
L151[05:01:23] <Ember_Primrose> Morning!
L152[05:01:33] * Lizzy waves
L153[05:01:44] * Ember_Primrose waves back
L154[05:01:54] * Forecaster screams as person materializes in the room suddenly
L155[05:02:12] <Forecaster> I mean, hi!
L156[05:02:14] <Ember_Primrose> ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ /
L157[05:03:04] <Sangar> o/
L158[05:03:24] <Ember_Primrose> \ ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ /
L159[05:03:52] <Sangar> is that a toastmoji?
L160[05:04:17] <Ember_Primrose> nah got it from here: http://japaneseemoticons.me/\
L161[05:04:18] * Forecaster can't see those
L162[05:04:18] <Izaya> damn bears
L163[05:04:21] <Ember_Primrose> nah got it from here: http://japaneseemoticons.me/
L164[05:04:21] <Izaya> >.>
L165[05:05:26] <Ember_Primrose> v(=∩_∩=)
L166[05:06:34] <Ember_Primrose> V◕.ω◕.V <--- Doggie
L167[05:06:48] <Ember_Primrose> (V●ᴥ●V)
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L169[05:15:19] <Sangar> wtf
L170[05:15:21] <Sangar> ffs
L171[05:15:24] <Sangar> windows .-.
L172[05:15:26] <Sangar> why
L173[05:15:41] <Sangar> take your fucking "game bar" and shove it somewhere else
L174[05:15:43] <Ember_Primrose> Windows, Y u do dis
L175[05:15:55] <Ember_Primrose> you can disable that
L176[05:17:58] <Sangar> yes. via the registry, because i don't want to login into the bloody xbox "app"
L177[05:18:07] <Sangar> which is shit design
L178[05:18:23] <Sangar> (having to login to disable it i mean)
L179[05:18:33] <Forecaster> I just ignore it
L180[05:18:38] <Izaya> game bar?
L181[05:18:49] <Izaya> should I ask what Microsoft has pissed off everyone with this time?
L182[05:18:54] <Ember_Primrose> no you can within the gamebar
L183[05:19:09] <Sangar> didn't see where
L184[05:19:23] <Sangar> and i don't want yet another overlay in my games >_>
L185[05:19:26] <Ember_Primrose> screenshot in a few
L186[05:20:06] <Lizzy> Sangar, i found your problem: you're using W10
L187[05:20:10] <Forecaster> I just realized parts of my base are being chunkloaded by spawn...
L188[05:20:18] <Sangar> Lizzy, yes, i am keenly aware of that :P
L189[05:23:22] <Ember_Primrose> Sangar, is it still open?
L190[05:23:29] <Ember_Primrose> the game bar?
L191[05:23:34] <Sangar> no
L192[05:23:48] <Ember_Primrose> ok open it with win + g
L193[05:23:59] <Ember_Primrose> click the gear icon
L194[05:24:08] <Sangar> already killed it via registry, but thanks ;)
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L196[05:24:38] <Ember_Primrose> yea you can turn of it per game if need be
L197[05:25:21] <Sangar> eh, i have dxtory for recording so i just don't need it in general
L198[05:25:28] <Sangar> anyway. any intellij idea wizards around? :X
L199[05:25:31] <Ember_Primrose> ^ +1
L200[05:25:43] <Ember_Primrose> i use it too, sortof
L201[05:26:18] <Sangar> if so, anyone know how to replace certain tokens for compile (via Make, not the gradle build task)?
L202[05:26:19] <Forecaster> I saw Vexatos earlier
L203[05:26:34] <Vexatos> SANGAR
L204[05:26:36] <Vexatos> ho
L205[05:26:36] <Sangar> well, he doesn't know how to do that either, or his PR would look different :P
L206[05:26:37] <Vexatos> hi
L207[05:26:38] <Vexatos> heeee
L208[05:26:39] <Sangar> heyo
L209[05:26:50] <Forecaster> well there he is anyway :P
L210[05:26:54] <Vexatos> Sangar, read PRs
L211[05:26:55] <Vexatos> :>
L212[05:26:57] <Vexatos> I fixed it
L213[05:27:02] <Sangar> waddaya think i'm doin ;)
L214[05:27:05] <Sangar> oh
L215[05:27:07] <Vexatos> not the prettiest solution
L216[05:27:09] <Vexatos> but it works
L217[05:27:10] <Sangar> you did?
L218[05:27:18] <Sangar> ah
L219[05:27:20] <Sangar> no you didn't
L220[05:27:21] <Sangar> :P
L221[05:27:29] <Vexatos> so yea
L222[05:27:36] <Sangar> i'm exactly talking about the non-prettiness ;)
L223[05:27:39] <Vexatos> IDEA has no replace-on-build without running gradlew runClient
L224[05:27:45] <Vexatos> and eclipse doesn't either
L225[05:27:45] <Sangar> bah
L226[05:27:48] <Vexatos> this is the only way, really.
L227[05:27:51] <Sangar> that sucks .-.
L228[05:27:55] <Vexatos> just merge :>
L229[05:28:02] <Vexatos> Also sangar https://github.com/Vexatos/OpenComputers/tree/jei-handlers
L230[05:28:14] <Sangar> oh my
L231[05:28:25] <Vexatos> I desperately hope that api.Manual and Callbacks.fromClass may be called by the time of ServerStarting
L232[05:28:28] <Vexatos> as JEI recipes are cached
L233[05:28:34] <Vexatos> can't do it dynamically like in NEI
L234[05:28:52] <Sangar> should be fine
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L236[05:29:29] <Vexatos> before http://git.io/vKzXn
L237[05:29:30] <Vexatos> after http://git.io/vKzXZ
L238[05:29:45] <Vexatos> er what
L239[05:29:53] <Vexatos> after http://git.io/vKzXc
L240[05:29:53] <Vexatos> there
L241[05:30:12] <Vexatos> it actually looks fine now :X
L242[05:30:47] <Vexatos> actually http://git.io/vKzX8
L243[05:30:51] <Sangar> did you introduce that _root_.net.. or did i miss that when cleaning up? :X
L244[05:30:59] <Vexatos> I already fixed it
L245[05:31:03] <Vexatos> IDEA automatically does it
L246[05:31:06] <Sangar> i know
L247[05:31:07] <Vexatos> and I have no idea how to get rid of it :X
L248[05:31:08] <Sangar> super annoying
L249[05:31:14] <Sangar> me neither :/
L250[05:31:16] <Vexatos> why the fish is it even happening
L251[05:31:21] <Vexatos> and ONLY on net.minecraft
L252[05:31:22] <Sangar> if only i knew
L253[05:31:25] <Sangar> yah
L254[05:31:43] * Vexatos found a use for foldLeft
L255[05:31:46] <Vexatos> :>
L256[05:31:59] <Vexatos> now then
L257[05:32:02] <Sangar> ^^
L258[05:32:12] <Vexatos> also sangar http://git.io/vKzXE
L259[05:32:37] <Vexatos> as it is undefined whether JEI's or OC's plugin is discovered first.
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L261[05:33:50] <Sangar> what does that do?
L262[05:34:17] <Lizzy> https://www.theender.net/shx/zion/20160716113416_1.jpg ¬_¬ ffs cities stop making bus spahgetti
L263[05:34:48] <Forecaster> mm spaghetti..
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L265[05:36:13] <Vexatos> Sangar, it adds a new category for the Manual
L266[05:36:23] <Vexatos> instead of just putting the Manual button into the Description category
L267[05:36:28] <Vexatos> (which would make sense)
L268[05:36:51] <Sangar> ah
L269[05:36:54] <Sangar> welp
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L271[05:39:57] <Vexatos> Sangar, uuh what was the scala function again that returns the first entry matching a predicate >_>
L272[05:40:07] <Vexatos> oh wait
L273[05:40:07] <Vexatos> find
L274[05:40:08] <Vexatos> >_>
L275[05:40:10] * Vexatos headdesks
L276[05:40:25] <Vexatos> Been scala'ing for way too long today
L277[05:40:33] <Sangar> haha
L278[05:40:40] <Forecaster> Vexatos.head.find("desk")
L279[05:40:55] <Vexatos> It's not even what I want
L280[05:41:29] <Vexatos> I want to iterate through the collection of functions and return the first call that does not return null ._.
L281[05:42:34] <Vexatos> eeeeeh
L282[05:45:47] <Vexatos> http://hastebin.com/ucicemejus.coffee
L283[05:45:49] <Vexatos> guess that works
L284[05:51:01] <Vexatos> Yo Sangar, on a scale from 1 to exception stack trace inspection, how hacky is the second solution http://hastebin.com/tuforucefu.coffee
L285[06:00:41] <Izaya> Skye: you like classic Mac OS, right? You should totally grab a bitmapped version of the Chicago font for me
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L287[06:03:07] <Skye> Izaya: how
L288[06:03:20] <Izaya> dunno
L289[06:04:25] <Izaya> tbh a lot of Mac OS seems like strange magic to me
L290[06:04:43] <Izaya> like, resource forks and stuff
L291[06:04:47] <Skye> Do you want me to extract the TTF font that looks similar somehow?
L292[06:05:04] <Izaya> there's a bitmap version
L293[06:05:17] <Skye> Izaya: resource fork is basically meta data
L294[06:05:28] <Syrren> windows has those too, FYI
L295[06:05:37] <Syrren> although they're called "alternate data streams"
L296[06:05:42] <Izaya> tbh I think it'd be interesting to try to make some of those old fonts into OC fonts
L297[06:05:53] <Izaya> Syrren: does anything (aside from maybe MS products) use them though?
L298[06:05:55] <Skye> NTFS has unlimited forks
L299[06:06:14] <Syrren> Izaya: no idea. to me they're just a backup headache -- I'm a Linux user.
L300[06:06:22] <Izaya> as am I
L301[06:06:51] <Izaya> but I've never heard of anything actually using resource forks
L302[06:06:56] <Izaya> I know they're a feature but...
L303[06:07:20] <Syrren> I know that Solaris has xattrs implemented as a virtual directory(!) for each file
L304[06:07:26] <Izaya> unlike on Windows though, from what I gather the resource forks were a large part of the design of Mac OS
L305[06:07:28] <Syrren> they're used for ACLs
L306[06:07:41] <Izaya> ohhhhhhh
L307[06:07:52] <Izaya> that makes a lot of sense actually
L308[06:07:59] <Syrren> no, no, I don't know about Mac OS or Windows ACLs in forks
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L310[06:08:05] <Syrren> that's Solaris/Illumos
L311[06:08:10] <Izaya> oh
L312[06:08:16] <Izaya> never mind then
L313[06:08:24] * Izaya never got far with Solaris/OpenSolaris/whatever
L314[06:08:31] <Syrren> >implying that windows makes a lot of sense
L315[06:08:32] <Syrren> :P
L316[06:08:34] <Izaya> I tried to install vim with the package manager and it sat there for two days
L317[06:08:43] <Izaya> well it would explain where ACLs are stored
L318[06:08:50] <Syrren> Windows ACLs are fucking magic
L319[06:09:03] <Skye> Izaya: Surrey: I will buy a Windows internals book soon
L320[06:09:22] <Syrren> and a pain in the ass because I run a NAS on Solaris, which is exported via SAMBA to Windows boxen
L321[06:10:01] * Izaya has less issues with Samba on Linux than Windows to Windows SMB
L322[06:10:14] <Skye> It's magic
L323[06:10:56] <Izaya> oh yeah Skye I had a fun idea for my OS
L324[06:11:08] <Syrren> it's actually kinda funny. Linux Samba has to pretend to be Windows with POSIX extensions, and SMB has to pretend to be Linux (POSIX)
L325[06:11:08] <Izaya> which is actually a horrid kludge but there are worse ways to do things
L326[06:11:29] <Syrren> this is pretty much why shit is broken in SMB/Samba all the time
L327[06:11:54] <Izaya> so I was originally going to try to keep all the file metadata (perms, ownership etc) in a single file in the / of the drive
L328[06:12:02] <Izaya> it occured to me though
L329[06:12:09] <Izaya> why not just have a file in each dir
L330[06:12:09] <Syrren> I'd run NFS instead, but the Solaris install is so old it only does NFSv3, which requires the same UIDs and GIDs across the entire network
L331[06:12:33] <Syrren> Izaya: are you trying to implement POSIX on OC?
L332[06:12:45] <Izaya> so you don't have to keep the whole volume's set of metadata in memoryu whenever you check it
L333[06:12:51] <Izaya> Syrren: no that's Magik6k's job
L334[06:12:54] <Syrren> :P
L335[06:13:14] <Izaya> I'm making a coop multitasking OS suitable for drones and uCs and other diskless deployments
L336[06:13:19] <Vexatos> Sangar, uuuuuuuuuh question
L337[06:13:22] <Syrren> Izaya: awesome
L338[06:13:31] <Vexatos> which NBT tags should JEI ignore when comparing for recipes :X
L339[06:13:41] <Vexatos> Anything in OC, pretty much, no?
L340[06:13:46] <Izaya> I have a scheduler, some basic terminal I/O and a kludgy event system
L341[06:13:55] <Izaya> actually
L342[06:14:05] <Izaya> event system is the sanest part, I just need to make the passing of the data better
L343[06:14:21] <Izaya> what I do need to work on is the terminal stuff
L344[06:14:25] <Izaya> gotta make multiple displays work
L345[06:14:28] <Syrren> VT100?
L346[06:14:29] <Syrren> oh
L347[06:15:08] <Izaya> (multiple displays, transparent device access, multitasking, in less than 4k of code and 192k of RAM)
L348[06:15:20] <Syrren> multitasking or multihead? (or both?)
L349[06:15:27] <Syrren> they're subtly different
L350[06:15:40] <Izaya> well the main idea is that you can do a remote login to a big machine
L351[06:15:45] <Izaya> or to a drone and such
L352[06:16:07] <Syrren> ohhh, so multiple displays as in VTs, not as in multiple "physical" displays necessarily
L353[06:16:09] <Izaya> and have multiple sessions while doing this
L354[06:16:19] <Izaya> well you could do multiple displays
L355[06:16:31] <Izaya> but if I implement that it'll require xorg.conf-grade configuration files
L356[06:16:36] <Syrren> god forbid :P
L357[06:16:56] <Izaya> cause you have to assign a number, a screen address, a GPU address and a keyboard address
L358[06:17:00] <Syrren> well, apparently systemd (*barf*) now supports plug-n-pray multihead
L359[06:17:04] <Izaya> default resolutions etc etc
L360[06:17:50] <Izaya> anyway I also have a build system
L361[06:18:00] <Syrren> you ported Make? :-p
L362[06:18:00] <Izaya> which lets you include or exclude parts from the EEPROM image
L363[06:18:07] <Izaya> no it's way simpler
L364[06:18:18] <Izaya> basically it takes a list of files to include in a given order
L365[06:18:25] <Syrren> ah, so more 'mkinitcpio'
L366[06:18:45] <Izaya> files which eventually get rolled into one .lua file
L367[06:19:19] <Izaya> and the idea is that if you're actually using a uC or drone you can say, drop the monitor code and have your own code in there
L368[06:19:39] <Izaya> while keeping multitasking and remote logins and such
L369[06:19:58] <Syrren> Izaya: http://matthewwild.co.uk/projects/squish/home
L370[06:20:17] <Forecaster> what the heck
L371[06:20:19] <Izaya> but does it run on OpenOS?
L372[06:20:21] <Syrren> also http://www.wowace.com/addons/libcompress/
L373[06:20:27] <Forecaster> I can't open the gui of this creative comp
L374[06:20:28] <Forecaster> ...
L375[06:20:34] <Forecaster> it just closes immidiately
L376[06:21:45] <Izaya> https://lain.shadowkat.net/~izaya/multice-snapshot.tar
L377[06:21:58] <Forecaster> Sangar halp
L378[06:22:03] <Izaya> the build script applies a number of simple replacements to make it smaller
L379[06:22:11] <Izaya> no variable renaming (yet) but it'll get done
L380[06:22:26] <Izaya> maybe
L381[06:22:28] <Syrren> the 2nd thing I linked is LZW implemented in pure lua
L382[06:22:41] <Syrren> there's another lib that does deflate (aka gzip)
L383[06:23:26] <Izaya> do either fit in <512 bytes of code?
L384[06:23:30] <Syrren> no idea
L385[06:23:38] <Syrren> I just googled for pure-lua compression
L386[06:23:47] <Izaya> because that's the max size I want for any given part
L387[06:24:31] <Forecaster> Sangar: Vexatos apparently one can't open the gui of a creative computer in the nether?
L388[06:28:16] <Syrren> Izaya: LibCompress.lua (LZW) is 39K
L389[06:29:04] <Izaya> that isn't much help then
L390[06:29:13] <Syrren> that's with a ton of comments and stuff though
L391[06:29:18] <Syrren> I'mma try running an obfuscator on it
L392[06:29:32] <Izaya> tbh my end goal is to have a bunch of uCs sitting connected to a network and the internet
L393[06:29:53] <Izaya> have it so you can like, borrow some for a while, log in remotely, run your code, host your server etc
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L395[06:39:48] * Vexatos pokes Sangar with a stick http://hastebin.com/letoqotemi.avrasm
L396[06:39:56] <Vexatos> Am I missing anything?
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L402[06:48:21] <Izaya> Skye: https://www.loadcode.co.uk/software/beos-software/mlvwm/ what the shit
L403[06:49:02] <Skye> Izaya, so much yes
L404[06:49:18] <Izaya> where do I get X11 though
L405[06:51:13] <ade124> Is it possible to add text with underlines, bolds, italics and things like that?
L406[06:51:13] <Skye> https://ask.slashdot.org/story/00/06/24/2235223/x11-on-beos ?
L407[06:52:16] <Izaya> links are dead
L408[06:56:28] <Syrren> Izaya: the gzip library is 11.048k after some manual uglifying :-( seems that it's a no-go.
L409[06:57:58] <Izaya> Skye: I found a TiltOS copy of xhaiku
L410[06:58:14] <Skye> zw
L411[06:58:43] <Izaya> I think it'd work if I wanted to unpack it properly
L412[06:58:53] <Skye> oops
L413[06:58:54] <ade124> is the gpu based on “pixels” (box for text) and not individual pixels?
L414[06:59:22] * Izaya hmms
L415[06:59:23] <ade124> … I’ll assume so
L416[06:59:31] <Izaya> ade124: it's all characters
L417[06:59:41] <Izaya> so I can manually resolve these dependencies
L418[06:59:44] <ade124> Oh nice, so no confusing overlap between them
L419[07:00:01] <Izaya> ade124: you can do unicode half-blocks if you want some form of graphics
L420[07:00:09] <Izaya> gives you two square pixels from the space of one character
L421[07:00:17] <ade124> OK
L422[07:00:27] <ade124> (And then I run into fullwidth characters)
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L424[07:03:40] <Ember_Primrose> ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ /
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L426[07:09:18] <ade124> I’m pretty confused by how the switch works
L427[07:09:21] <ade124> *rack
L428[07:09:55] * Vexatos pokes Sangar with a bunch of sticks
L429[07:10:16] * ade124 has no idea why vexatos did that
L430[07:10:30] <Vexatos> Sangar, http://git.io/vKzDp
L431[07:11:28] <ade124> seriously though how do racks work
L432[07:11:43] <Forecaster> you put things in them that do things
L433[07:11:51] <ade124> yeah I know about that part
L434[07:12:15] <Forecaster> then you use the gui to connect the slots to sides, represented by the vertical lines
L435[07:12:20] <Forecaster> and colors
L436[07:12:26] <Izaya> Skye: I might be able to get this to work in the next two hours
L437[07:12:26] <ade124> does the switch allow access to any components on any side by a computer
L438[07:12:41] <Izaya> I might need to download the entire TiltOS archive though
L439[07:12:42] <Forecaster> what switch?
L440[07:12:52] <ade124> the internal switch thing
L441[07:13:19] <Forecaster> that toggels relay mode, which prevents component connections
L442[07:13:28] <ade124> ?
L443[07:13:28] <Forecaster> and only allows network messages
L444[07:13:47] <Forecaster> by default components can connect through the sides
L445[07:13:53] <ade124> So if I set disabled I can access components?
L446[07:14:16] <Forecaster> yessss...
L447[07:14:20] <Forecaster> probably
L448[07:14:26] <Lizzy> Forecaster, no, the internal and external button is only for the routing of network messages, components can only be accessed by the main side they're connected to
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L450[07:14:36] <ade124> Ok
L451[07:15:10] <Lizzy> in external mode, messages coming from the right side of the rack can go out to the left. in internal mode the messages wont go out but will still go to all servers
L452[07:15:39] <ade124> so If I put surround a rack with a server with racks with ton of hard drives in it will I only be able to access one?
L453[07:15:40] <Forecaster> ah
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L455[07:16:46] <ade124> I’ve also noticed that when I add a network card there is a “secondary” connection
L456[07:16:50] <Lizzy> ade124, which ever side you connect the server (in the rack gui) to is the only path that server has component access for
L457[07:17:05] <ade124> ok
L458[07:17:10] <ade124> is that only for messages?
L459[07:17:16] <ade124> (the secondary thing)
L460[07:17:28] <Lizzy> the second network card? yes
L461[07:17:35] <ade124> Okay thanks
L462[07:17:58] <Lizzy> all network cards will be able to send to the server's connected side plus whatever side you connect in the gui
L463[07:18:31] <ade124> Thanks
L464[07:26:08] <ade124> does OpenOS pick up disk drives (rack mounted ones) automatically yet?
L465[07:27:01] <Lizzy> they're no different from regular disk drives so if you make sure they both have the same side connection (the server and the rack mount disk drive) it'll pick them up
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L467[07:28:32] <ade124> They don’t appear in df but I’m sure they are in the same side
L468[07:28:36] <Vexatos> http://git.io/vKzy2 hype
L469[07:28:44] <Lizzy> screenshot, ade124?
L470[07:33:33] <ade124> http://s32.postimg.org/5tm55tntx/2016_07_16_8_31_59.png
L471[07:33:53] <ade124> http://s32.postimg.org/davcl1dd1/2016_07_16_8_31_53.png
L472[07:34:58] <ade124> (I have 4 drives inside the server already)
L473[07:35:37] <Lizzy> do you have any floppy disks in those rackmounted ones?
L474[07:36:26] <ade124> ?
L475[07:36:40] <Lizzy> do you have any floppy disks int he rack mounted disk drives?
L476[07:36:45] <ade124> lol I thought they were hard drives for some reason
L477[07:36:55] <Lizzy> ah, no :P
L478[07:37:25] <ade124> rack mounted hard drives would be quite cool though
L479[07:37:47] <Forecaster> you have the raid
L480[07:38:12] <Sangar> Vexatos, coolio, will test now. as for missing / nbt, no idea, i don't know all the nbt related stuff in oc anymore, too much of it >_>
L481[07:38:51] <ade124> nice
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L484[07:42:31] <Mimiru> Anyone that knows anything about TESRs in 1.9+ wanna tell me why this is happening? http://michi.pc-logix.com/2016-07-16_07-42-12.mp4 :P
L485[07:43:25] <Mimiru> It seems like each radio is using the same TESR instance
L486[07:46:56] <Vexatos> Sangar, nbt thing has been resolved
L487[07:47:02] <Vexatos> there's new stuff for that on 1.10
L488[07:47:10] <Sangar> ok
L489[07:47:10] <Vexatos> so once you merge, I'll push stuff there
L490[07:47:15] <Vexatos> as this is for 1.8.9
L491[07:47:21] <Sangar> is the pr done btw, i.e. should i merge it then?
L492[07:47:32] <Vexatos> well you see what's missing
L493[07:47:37] <Lizzy> So i decided to re-do the bus station/terminal in my Thornton Heights District, old one: https://www.theender.net/shx/zion/20160702205910_1.jpg (busses stopping that the first stop block the rest from getting in), latest version of it: https://www.theender.net/shx/zion/20160716134413_1.jpg which is a lot more efficient
L494[07:47:37] <Vexatos> I need to talk to mezz for the rest
L495[07:47:41] <Vexatos> or you do it
L496[07:47:45] <Vexatos> I don't know
L497[07:47:51] <Vexatos> highlighting is half-implemented
L498[07:48:00] <Vexatos> there is no way to check for focus on the JEI search
L499[07:48:01] <Vexatos> :P
L500[07:48:06] <Sangar> eh, you know where you're at, you do the talking :P
L501[07:48:19] <Vexatos> Not even sure why OredictTooltipHandler was there at all
L502[07:48:25] <Sangar> i'll merge what's there then, can expand later
L503[07:48:41] <Vexatos> yea
L504[07:48:44] <Vexatos> it works just fine
L505[07:48:49] <Vexatos> luckily JEI is client-side only
L506[07:48:51] <Ember_Primrose> Lizzy, I like dis. ʕ ~ •ᴥ•ʔ ~
L507[07:48:54] <Vexatos> well, the mod plugins are
L508[07:48:54] <Vexatos> :>
L509[07:49:34] <Vexatos> Sangar, ewww you squashed :< I put so much effort into four neat commits
L510[07:49:38] <Vexatos> D:
L511[07:49:44] <Sangar> i did? o.O
L512[07:50:06] <Vexatos> wait you didn't ._.
L513[07:50:16] <Vexatos> the commit history was just messed up
L514[07:50:16] <Vexatos> what
L515[07:50:18] <Vexatos> now it's fine
L516[07:50:20] <Vexatos> ._.
L517[07:50:21] <Vexatos> git pls
L518[07:50:24] <Sangar> ^^
L519[07:50:50] * Mimiru kicks TESR in the shin
L520[07:51:07] <Ember_Primrose> Mimiru, what does TESR stand for
L521[07:51:15] <Mimiru> TileEntitySpecialRenderer
L522[07:51:43] <Ember_Primrose> oh, i was halfway right, yay.
L523[07:52:03] <Ember_Primrose> ps, i will never be able to help you D:
L524[07:52:08] <Vexatos> yo Sangar, what about the two other PRs :P
L525[07:52:31] <Ember_Primrose> i r stupit wit de modding of te minceraft
L526[07:52:33] <Lizzy> Ember_Primrose, https://www.reddit.com/r/CitiesSkylines/comments/4r9i5j/sikovia_my_city_of_75k_citizens/ it's a fairly old-ish post, i'll be doing a more updated one once i completely gut most of the area around Manor Park and Birdsong cause the road layout around there is just terrible
L527[07:52:39] <Mimiru> I guess I'm asking in... the forge channel
L528[07:52:51] * Lizzy gives Mimiru a cookie of luck
L529[07:53:10] <Sangar> Vexatos, adapter thinger i need to work up the motivation to textures, bin -> usr/bin i'll test in a bit
L530[07:53:26] <Vexatos> Sangar, test? It's literally just moving files of the floppy disks
L531[07:53:28] * Ember_Primrose prays for Mimiru, praises Lizzy
L532[07:53:30] <Vexatos> so install installs properly :P
L533[07:53:34] * ade124 cannot find the wiki page on the raid
L534[07:53:43] <Vexatos> (i.e. to usr instead of /)
L535[07:53:44] <Lizzy> ~oc raid
L536[07:53:44] <ocdoc> Predicted http://ocd.cil.li/api:rc
L537[07:53:47] <Lizzy> ¬_¬
L538[07:53:49] <Vexatos> Also sangar http://git.io/vKzSa elaborate ._.
L539[07:53:59] <Sangar> i'm wary of moving stuff :P
L540[07:54:40] <Sangar> Vexatos, i want to move the libs into a separate jar, probably a sort-of-lib-mod, to avoid having people having to download 10mb whenever something changes
L541[07:54:52] <Sangar> since the libs are pretty much mostly stable, but make up most of the file size
L542[07:54:56] <Vexatos> but then you'd download two mods always :X
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L544[07:55:08] <Sangar> you're dl the libs only once
L545[07:55:12] <Sangar> pretty much
L546[07:55:15] <Vexatos> Call the mod eris :>
L547[07:55:46] <Sangar> i was aiming for the more unimaginative OpenComputer-Natives :P
L548[07:56:01] <Vexatos> OpenKernels :<
L549[07:56:04] <Vexatos> OpenArchitectures
L550[07:56:07] <ade124> Call it OpenComputerCore (Because I can)
L551[07:56:08] <Vexatos> OpenEris
L552[07:56:14] <Vexatos> ade124, that already exists
L553[07:56:19] <ade124> ok
L554[07:56:23] <Vexatos> call it OpenOpen
L555[07:56:27] <Vexatos> or OpenOpenOpen
L556[07:56:41] <Forecaster> ade124: its basically just a big harddrive as a block
L557[07:56:44] <Sangar> OpenStuff
L558[07:56:50] <Vexatos> OpenWallet
L559[07:56:52] <ade124> call it OpenComputerLibs (least imaginative name ever, but it’s probably out there)
L560[07:56:58] <Skye> OpenEris
L561[07:57:04] <Skye> or
L562[07:57:13] <Vexatos> Natives would be the most correct name .P
L563[07:57:19] <Skye> Eris-OpenComputersNatives
L564[07:57:27] <Ember_Primrose> OpenTheDoor
L565[07:57:43] <Vexatos> OpenTheFridge?
L566[07:57:56] <Vexatos> Sangar, by the way!
L567[07:57:58] <Ember_Primrose> BeTheFridge
L568[07:58:41] <Sangar> longtext incoming
L569[07:58:47] <Vexatos> http://git.io/vKzSA
L570[07:58:48] <ade124> OpenComputers-TheThingThatYouShouldntUpdateUnlessSpecificallyRequested
L571[07:58:49] <Ember_Primrose> ^
L572[07:59:06] <Vexatos> ade124, nah, the hard dep in the OC mod would tell you when to update
L573[07:59:23] <Ember_Primrose> OpenOpen
L574[07:59:23] <Sangar> Vexatos, didn't we decide it's kinda unneeded now?
L575[07:59:28] <Vexatos> Well uh
L576[07:59:31] <Ember_Primrose> OpenOrClose
L577[07:59:47] <ade124> OpenComputers-TheThingThatYouShouldntUpdateUnlessTheHardDependencyInTheOpenComputersKodTellsYouToUpdate
L578[07:59:56] <Forecaster> Ember_Primrose: "I have no strong feelings one way or the other"? :P
L579[07:59:57] <Vexatos> does solve the block-already-needs-six-sides-to-be-automated thing, and like two people really liked the idea :P
L580[08:00:09] <Ember_Primrose> :P
L581[08:00:25] <Sangar> welp. then i'll try to remember making textures for it... after 1.6 :X
L582[08:00:30] <ade124> Just call it OpenLibraries (is that a thing?)
L583[08:00:47] <ade124> (I would think so)
L584[08:00:48] <Ember_Primrose> I'm melting stuff in a tcon smeltery
L585[08:01:19] <Ember_Primrose> that feeling when lead becomes factorization lead and you can't convert it back
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L587[08:05:34] <Vexatos> Sangar, could you please merge the stuff into 1.10 ._.
L588[08:06:08] <Sangar> Vexatos, what do you think i'm trying to do right now .-.
L589[08:06:18] <Vexatos> :D
L590[08:06:23] <Sangar> things are suddenly generics
L591[08:07:48] <Vexatos> what
L592[08:08:19] <Vexatos> ah yes
L593[08:08:25] <Vexatos> well that should be easy though :p
L594[08:08:58] <Sangar> aand internet died for a moment
L595[08:09:04] <Sangar> also, onJeiHelpersAvailable etc are no longer a thing?
L596[08:10:03] <Vexatos> yea it's supposed to have been replaced by IModRegistry.getJeiHelpers
L597[08:10:06] <Vexatos> but, you know
L598[08:10:10] <Vexatos> that's not called in preInit :^)
L599[08:10:48] <Vexatos> (it's called on server start so you'll have to add items to the blacklist in the mod plugin manually instead of using the shared handler)
L600[08:11:15] <Vexatos> This is called "fun", sangar :>
L601[08:11:20] <Sangar> so... i do what now?
L602[08:11:29] <Vexatos> previously:
L603[08:11:35] <Vexatos> onJeiHelpersAvailable is called in preInit
L604[08:11:42] <Vexatos> you add the function to your item blacklist handler
L605[08:11:45] <Vexatos> it's called on init
L606[08:11:47] <Vexatos> by you
L607[08:12:06] <Vexatos> now: register is called and you need to add items to blacklist there
L608[08:12:12] <Vexatos> instead of in your mod's init
L609[08:13:18] <Sangar> so
L610[08:13:19] <Sangar> ItemBlacklist.hiddenItems.foreach(registry.getJeiHelpers.getItemBlacklist.addItemToBlacklist)
L611[08:13:21] <Sangar> in register?
L612[08:13:42] <ade124> (unrelated question: what mods do you recommend for 1.10.2?)
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L614[08:14:25] <Sangar> err, ItemBlacklist.hiddenItems.foreach(getter => registry.getJeiHelpers.getItemBlacklist.addItemToBlacklist(getter()))
L615[08:15:52] <Vexatos> Sangar, pretty much, yea
L616[08:15:57] <Sangar> k
L617[08:16:25] <Vexatos> How do you like my new CallbackDocHandler fancification :>
L618[08:16:35] <Sangar> the colors?
L619[08:16:37] <Sangar> neat
L620[08:16:41] <Vexatos> colors?
L621[08:16:42] <Vexatos> ._.
L622[08:16:48] <Sangar> was that in there before? :X
L623[08:16:48] <Vexatos> I didn't add any colors :X
L624[08:16:53] <Sangar> welp :X
L625[08:16:59] <Vexatos> No, I did proper wrapping
L626[08:17:02] <ade124> if only buildcraft and IC2 are available on 1.10
L627[08:17:03] <Sangar> ah
L628[08:17:10] <Vexatos> i.e. no more one method's doc on two pages
L629[08:17:20] <Vexatos> if the entire method doesn't fit, it will go onto the next page
L630[08:17:35] <Vexatos> instead of being half on one and half on the other
L631[08:17:36] <Sangar> ah
L632[08:17:38] <Sangar> cool
L633[08:17:41] <Vexatos> unless the doc itself is more than 12 lines
L634[08:17:47] <Vexatos> then it will still start on a new page
L635[08:17:49] <Sangar> yea
L636[08:17:53] <Vexatos> but then obviously have to wrap
L637[08:18:08] <Vexatos> I spent a long time trying to get that just right
L638[08:18:26] <Vexatos> Also it's really really uhgpieru
L639[08:18:30] <Vexatos> due to the pages += callbacks.toArray.sorted.foldLeft
L640[08:18:36] <Vexatos> i.e. pages is modified during foldLeft
L641[08:18:46] <Sangar> >_>
L642[08:18:48] <Vexatos> and the last thing done is the final string added to the pages
L643[08:18:54] <Vexatos> but it's the first in the code :>
L644[08:19:09] <Sangar> whatever works
L645[08:20:10] <Vexatos> actually
L646[08:20:14] <Vexatos> it doesn't
L647[08:20:16] <Vexatos> let me fix this
L648[08:21:58] <ade124> can cables act as power lines? (i.e. can I use cables to transfer power from the power converter to the charger?)
L649[08:23:10] <Vexatos> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/pull/1970 Sangar :P
L650[08:23:13] <Skye> ade124, yes
L651[08:23:18] <ade124> Thanks
L652[08:23:20] <Vexatos> I didn't check whether the last page was too long.
L653[08:23:25] <Vexatos> duh :X
L654[08:23:48] <Vexatos> ade124, there is no power transfer in OC
L655[08:23:54] <Vexatos> all connected things share a single power buffer
L656[08:24:14] <ade124> OK
L657[08:24:33] <ade124> so can I use cables to connect things to make them share a single power buffer?
L658[08:24:51] <Vexatos> Yes.
L659[08:24:55] <ade124> Thanks
L660[08:24:55] <Vexatos> That's what cables do
L661[08:25:14] <ade124> I thought they are also used for networks, but maybe I’m wrong
L662[08:25:18] <Vexatos> Of course
L663[08:25:22] <ade124> Ok thanks
L664[08:25:27] <Vexatos> But how would you think a geolyzer would get power
L665[08:25:38] <Vexatos> that one can't directly accept RF or similar.
L666[08:25:59] <ade124> I don’t even know of a mod supporting RF in 1.10
L667[08:26:11] <ade124> I’m using TechReborn
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L671[08:33:50] <Lizzy> wow, my city has 115k citizens and 9M Credits in the bank. i wonder how hard that'll dive when i start gutting areas
L672[08:34:22] * ade124 has no idea what anyone is talking about
L673[08:34:36] * Lizzy is talking about cities skylines
L674[08:34:51] * ade124 hasn’t played that game for at least a while
L675[08:37:36] <ade124> wait, IC2 is on 1.10? nice
L676[08:38:15] * Ember_Primrose is listening to Lizzy
L677[08:39:41] <ade124> I remember that one time when I built a dam specifically to flood the city I built… Then I realized that I forgot to save
L678[08:40:41] <Vexatos> Sangar, http://git.io/vKzH7
L679[08:40:41] <Vexatos> :>
L680[08:41:05] <Vexatos> Also Sangar, I think i fixed it for some reason
L681[08:41:10] <Vexatos> It doesn't do it anymore D:
L682[08:41:12] <Vexatos> for me
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L684[08:52:52] <Michiyo> Welp, that went about as poorly as I figured it out
L685[08:52:55] <Michiyo> it would*
L686[08:53:00] <Michiyo> but I sorta got it sorted
L687[08:55:33] <Michiyo> scrolling text flickers gotta nail that down, but it'll have to wait
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L689[09:03:06] <Ember_Primrose> ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ /
L690[09:05:00] <Skye> ]
L691[09:05:00] <Skye> #
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L693[09:05:35] <Michiyo> I should have commited so I could work on it here
L694[09:06:23] <Skye> zwxz
L695[09:06:24] <Skye> um
L696[09:06:27] <Skye> wrong window
L697[09:08:46] <Ember_Primrose> brb
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L700[09:14:36] <Vexatos> Sangar, poke
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L702[09:15:10] <Sangar> Vexatos, peek
L703[09:15:25] <Vexatos> any idea why loot disks don't appear in JEI?
L704[09:15:45] <ade124> does OC on 1.10.2 work with Industrial Craft 2 on 1.10.2?
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L706[09:15:51] <ade124> (In terms of power)
L707[09:16:49] <Sangar> Vexatos, not sure, but iirc they were also manually registered for nei? or maybe not. dunno.
L708[09:17:02] <Sangar> ade124, uhh, idk. maybe?
L709[09:17:23] <ade124> the cables in IC2 doesn’t connect to the power connector…
L710[09:17:28] <ade124> converter
L711[09:17:32] <Vexatos> Sangar, how would I do that
L712[09:17:35] <Sangar> well, then not i guess
L713[09:17:37] <Vexatos> i.e. which map contains all floppied
L714[09:17:39] <Sangar> Vexatos, idk
L715[09:17:40] <Vexatos> floppies*
L716[09:17:40] <Sangar> ah
L717[09:17:44] <Sangar> Loot.something
L718[09:17:47] <Sangar> worldDisks?
L719[09:18:03] <Sangar> yeah, Loot.worldDisks
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L721[09:18:52] <Izaya> https://a.cocaine.ninja/kdoroa.png rate wallpapers
L722[09:19:04] <Vexatos> Sangar, I think JEI is initialized before WorldEvent.Load :X
L723[09:19:16] <Sangar> welp
L724[09:21:54] <ade124> I remember it working before… odd
L725[09:22:12] <ade124> I’m on a mac now but I tested that on a PC...
L726[09:22:13] <Vexatos> Sangar, I can't even add items to the registry... wot
L727[09:22:20] <ade124> might be platform dependent
L728[09:24:36] <ade124> apparently IC2 on 1.10 doesn’t even register as a power provider
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L733[10:07:25] <Ember_Primrose> ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ /
L734[10:07:27] <Vexatos> Sangar, where exactly are the floppies added to the creative tab :X
L735[10:07:35] <Ember_Primrose> II have returned
L736[10:08:35] <Ember_Primrose> GTA V Taxi's be like:http://imgur.com/or2snI0
L737[10:08:37] <Sangar> Vexatos, uhh, either in the floppy item or in the creativetab itself
L738[10:09:26] * vifino groans and snugles Lizzy
L739[10:09:39] <Vexatos> Sangar, neither
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L741[10:11:00] <Vexatos> I need to know where it is XX
L742[10:11:04] <Vexatos> X_X
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L744[10:12:39] <Sangar> Vexatos, init.Items in initSpecial i guess? whatever that does
L745[10:12:47] <payonel> hi Sangar :)
L746[10:13:00] <Sangar> heyo o/
L747[10:13:14] <Vexatos> >whatever that does
L748[10:13:18] <gamax92> Sangar: JEI doesn't seem to show all the floppies
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L750[10:13:26] <Vexatos> gamax92, ORLY
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L752[10:13:28] <Vexatos> GOOD
L753[10:13:28] <Vexatos> TO
L754[10:13:29] <Vexatos> KNOW
L755[10:13:32] * Vexatos dies
L756[10:13:32] <Sangar> <_>
L757[10:13:43] <gamax92> Vexatos: shut the fuck up
L758[10:13:44] <Sangar> (it's what vex is fighting with right now)
L759[10:13:53] <gamax92> Oh alright
L760[10:13:59] <Sangar> you really should have seen that in your magic orb
L761[10:14:01] <Sangar> :P
L762[10:14:32] <gamax92> Well I literally just woke up 3 minutes ago and saw a Sangar
L763[10:14:42] <Sangar> haha
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L765[10:16:30] <gamax92> Sangar: play with ocemu and give me bug reports :>
L766[10:16:47] <Sangar> gamax92, i wish i had the time :<
L767[10:16:52] <gamax92> Aww
L768[10:16:53] <Michiyo> o/ gamax92
L769[10:17:11] <Vexatos> Sangar, so that anonymous misc item
L770[10:17:14] <Vexatos> that adds them ._.
L771[10:17:23] <ade124> I think I might have discredited darwinism
L772[10:17:27] <gamax92> I know atleast I have to put in internet_ready
L773[10:17:35] <ade124> I have 3 things connected to 1 socket right now
L774[10:17:43] <ade124> and natural selection isn’t working yet
L775[10:17:45] <ade124> (IRL)
L776[10:17:51] <Vexatos> but JEI doesn't get it
L777[10:17:57] <gamax92> And a super basic loot floppy selector
L778[10:18:21] <Sangar> Vexatos, i have no idea why i did it that way >_> it looks super ugly
L779[10:18:44] <Vexatos> it contains all the preconfigured stuff
L780[10:19:02] <Sangar> yeah, but i'm not sure why it's an extra item
L781[10:19:14] <Vexatos> dunno
L782[10:19:19] <Vexatos> NEI item blacklist
L783[10:19:29] <Vexatos> you not wanting them to be hidden? :P
L784[10:20:07] * Sangar shrugs
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L786[10:21:05] <Vexatos> oh.
L787[10:21:08] <Vexatos> sangar...
L788[10:21:14] <Vexatos> >Loot.disksForClient
L789[10:21:33] <Vexatos> is only populated AFTER JEI searches, i.e. after EntityJoinWorldEvent
L790[10:22:05] <Sangar> welp
L791[10:23:17] <Vexatos> All I could do would be schedule a reload of JEI :X
L792[10:23:38] <Vexatos> Sangar, uh
L793[10:23:45] <Vexatos> why are you sending one packet per loot disk
L794[10:23:53] <Cruor> Sangar: wtf happend to recipes? D:
L795[10:23:53] <Vexatos> but sending them all at once ._.
L796[10:25:24] <Sangar> Vexatos, i'm 90% sure there was a reason. and there's probably a comment somewhere, too
L797[10:25:28] <Sangar> Cruor, things
L798[10:25:34] <Cruor> but D:
L799[10:25:39] <Vexatos> Sangar, no
L800[10:25:39] <Cruor> i was complaining about it being way to expensive
L801[10:25:45] <Cruor> and now im dying inside for it being cheap D:
L802[10:25:51] <Vexatos> // Sending as separate packets, because CompressedStreamTools hiccups otherwise...
L803[10:25:52] <Vexatos> :X
L804[10:26:01] <Sangar> see
L805[10:26:03] <Sangar> :P
L806[10:26:12] <payonel> Cruor: what is cheap now?
L807[10:26:22] <Sangar> Cruor, at least multiblock screens are somewhat realistic now :X
L808[10:26:22] <Cruor> payonel: everything that doesnt need diamonds >_<
L809[10:26:50] <Cruor> besides those pesky clocks <_<
L810[10:27:26] <Sangar> and for most things it shouldn't be *that* much cheaper? i rmember switching some nuggets for ingots in return for cranking up the output count (to reduce the tedium some)
L811[10:27:39] <Cruor> uhhh
L812[10:27:48] <Cruor> you craft one batch of transistors
L813[10:27:55] <Cruor> and it gets you 64 t2 microchips
L814[10:28:04] <Cruor> (or t1, i am derp)
L815[10:28:07] <Vexatos> both
L816[10:28:11] <Cruor> ah, okay
L817[10:28:11] <Vexatos> you get 8 per
L818[10:28:20] <Cruor> what the heck is up with that .-.
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L820[10:29:25] <Sangar> less clicking is up with that :P
L821[10:29:55] <Cruor> t1 and t2 is a joke now in terms of cost though .-.
L822[10:30:07] <Michiyo> You're a joke now
L823[10:30:14] <Cruor> only now?
L824[10:30:20] <Michiyo> Well, now included.
L825[10:30:28] <Cruor> thats better :>
L826[10:30:30] <Michiyo> :P
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L828[10:34:59] <Ember_Primrose> Michiyo, ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ /
L829[10:35:14] <Vexatos> Sangar, yup, reloading JEI displays stuff :X
L830[10:35:24] <Michiyo> o/
L831[10:35:32] <Sangar> Vexatos, great
L832[10:35:37] <Vexatos> no
L833[10:35:43] <Vexatos> because I don't want JEI to run twice every login
L834[10:36:19] <Cruor> Vexatos: let it run 9 times every login :>
L835[10:39:20] <Vexatos> Sangar, should loot floppies be different from empty floppies, i.e. should loot disks show only their respective recipes (e.g. the scrench recipe or the interweb recipe for OPPM) or should they all display every possible recipe :P
L836[10:40:58] <Michiyo> Yes, one of those options is how it should be.
L837[10:43:16] <payonel> Sangar: so 1.6 delay for separating natives?
L838[10:43:57] <Sangar> Vexatos, probably different?
L839[10:44:02] <payonel> as always, there are things i can improve. the needful-things branch was definitely the biggest and a good last commit for me
L840[10:44:10] <payonel> but i'm always poking around :)
L841[10:44:11] <Sangar> payonel, possibly. if i get around to it quickly. otherwise it'll happen post 1.6
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L843[10:44:56] <Vexatos> Cruor, I am actually reloading JEI 9 times every login now
L844[10:45:01] <payonel> i still (some day) need to get the `you need $loot_disk loot disk` for commands-not-found
L845[10:46:22] <Cruor> Vexatos: not bad :p
L846[10:47:03] <gamax92> wheeeeee.
L847[10:47:32] <ade124> Hmm… is Optifine Standard still a thing?
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L849[10:49:20] <gamax92> Sangar: internet_ready comes from what btw?
L850[10:49:35] <gamax92> sockets? http?
L851[10:53:07] <gamax92> bah :/ type is a bash builtin
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L856[11:13:55] <Vexatos> Sangar, poke
L857[11:14:10] <Vexatos> if (data.hasNoTags) null else data.toString
L858[11:14:25] <Vexatos> Where should I put the newlines :P
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L861[11:19:28] <gamax92> Vexatos: are you playing with Scala
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L863[11:19:39] <gamax92> that looks like disgusting Scala
L864[11:20:01] <Vexatos> gamax92, I learned half of Scala from OC
L865[11:20:05] <Vexatos> and the other half from Selene
L866[11:20:06] <gamax92> :P
L867[11:20:28] <Vexatos> http://git.io/vKzxY yes I have
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L869[11:25:25] <Cruor> Vexatos: i also contributed to oc, i prms
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L871[11:26:04] <Vexatos> Cruor, shrobot when
L872[11:26:09] <Vexatos> and proper music player
L873[11:26:10] <Vexatos> :>
L874[11:26:16] <Cruor> soon tm :p
L875[11:26:54] <Vexatos> Cruor, which syntax did you choose >_>
L876[11:26:57] * vifino misses Lizzy
L877[11:26:57] <Vexatos> midi?
L878[11:27:25] <Cruor> Vexatos: wut?
L879[11:27:38] <Vexatos> Or are you still using your own
L880[11:27:44] <Vexatos> you said you wanted to do proper parser
L881[11:27:47] <Cruor> oh for the player?
L882[11:27:51] <Cruor> its going to use abc
L883[11:28:00] <Vexatos> k
L884[11:28:06] <gamax92> why not use zkr?
L885[11:28:15] <gamax92> or lyp
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L887[11:29:01] <KR> oui zee kr is bestest
L888[11:29:10] <Cruor> .-.
L889[11:29:39] <Forecaster> u wot
L890[11:33:53] <Cruor> gamax92: you lost me at everything :I
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L892[11:37:00] <Sangar> gamax92, tcp sockets. when in doubt, ask Magik6k :P
L893[11:37:47] <gamax92> Sangar: internet_ready comes from what btw, sockets or http?
L894[11:39:11] <Vexatos> answa meh!
L895[11:39:26] <Cruor> Vexatos: 9
L896[11:39:42] <Sangar> gamax92, sockets
L897[11:40:20] <Vexatos> Cruor, right now it does
L898[11:40:29] <Vexatos> but there is no mezz in sight
L899[11:40:35] <Vexatos> to find a better solution
L900[11:40:47] <Vexatos> Sangar, \n where
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L902[11:47:38] <Sangar> Vexatos, nowhere?
L903[11:47:45] <Vexatos> ok
L904[11:47:55] <Sangar> i just think of those as ?: and keep them inline, usually :P
L905[11:48:06] <Vexatos> Sangar, ok it's all done
L906[11:48:20] <Vexatos> all that's left now is some way to actually reload JEI
L907[11:48:23] <Vexatos> I mean, I can
L908[11:48:28] <Vexatos> I just don't know where :P
L909[11:48:43] <Sangar> well, good luck figuring it out ^^ gtg now
L910[11:48:56] <Sangar> see you tomorrow o/
L911[11:49:37] <gamax92> man if the data card used streams then ssl could be used on that :P
L912[11:51:21] <Skye> SSL should be done generically so that HTTPS can be done manually
L913[11:51:43] <gamax92> no shit sherlock?
L914[11:53:18] <Skye> that's why it should be on the internet card
L915[11:53:48] * Lizzy snuggles vifino
L916[11:54:53] <gamax92> Skye: the main issue is that using SSL in Java is via this SSLEngine, where there is no built in SSLSocketChannel (OC uses SocketChannel)
L917[11:55:30] <gamax92> so you bascially have to take a SocketChannel or what that implements, and then build up your own that happens to use SSLEngine
L918[11:56:47] * Lizzy needs to invest in a load of the crappy simulators so she has something other than Spintires and Rocket LEague to play with her brother
L919[11:56:58] <gamax92> iirc SSLEngine is bascially, feed data in and get encrypted data out, feed encrypted data in get data out
L920[11:57:24] <gamax92> also a handshake process
L921[11:57:32] <Skye> what is a socketchannel?
L922[11:57:49] <gamax92> Skye: https://www.google.com/search?q=SocketChannel
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L924[11:58:29] * vifino kisses Lizzy all over <3 <3
L925[11:58:42] * Lizzy giggles and returns vifino's kisses
L926[11:58:50] <gamax92> Return to Sender
L927[11:58:51] <Cruor> uhhh
L928[11:58:55] * Cruor hugs Vexatos, maybe?
L929[11:59:06] <cloakable> :o
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L933[12:03:45] <Vexatos> gamax92, return to Sangar :^)
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L942[12:14:56] <ade124> what can I actually do with nanomachines?
L943[12:15:10] <Vexatos> kill Cruor
L944[12:15:21] <ade124> No, seriously
L945[12:15:35] <ade124> (What sorts of inputs can I set)
L946[12:15:37] <Cruor> you can kill me with them :o
L947[12:16:08] <Cruor> Vexatos: what is the cheapest thing i can fit a sound card into?
L948[12:16:18] <Vexatos> t3 case
L949[12:16:24] <Cruor> bleh :c
L950[12:16:32] <Vexatos> it's 4.something diamonds
L951[12:16:33] <Vexatos> :>
L952[12:16:35] <Vexatos> no wait
L953[12:16:39] <Vexatos> it's only 1 now
L954[12:16:43] <Vexatos> Snagar pls
L955[12:16:45] <Vexatos> Cruor, strim?
L956[12:16:52] <Cruor> its not 2? .-.
L957[12:16:58] <Cruor> wait
L958[12:17:03] <Cruor> is it 1 t3 microchip?
L959[12:17:31] <Vexatos> No idea
L960[12:17:43] <Cruor> if it is, then its 0.5 diamonds
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L962[12:17:58] <Cruor> can i flash eeproms for t3 case like drones? :>
L963[12:18:09] <Vexatos> of course ._.
L964[12:18:19] <Cruor> then wtf is the problem :>
L965[12:18:20] <Vexatos> you can flash EEPROMs on any case
L966[12:20:03] <Cruor> Vexatos: 4.5diamonds
L967[12:20:13] <ade124> I wonder if it is possible to detect movement of the player with OC
L968[12:20:28] <Vexatos> ade124, motion sensor or radar?
L969[12:20:59] <ade124> Motion sensor
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L971[12:21:18] <Vexatos> No, I mean
L972[12:21:21] <Vexatos> you can use either of those :P
L973[12:21:25] <ade124> OK
L974[12:21:29] <Cruor> Vexatos: fine, the radar upgrade is cute :p
L975[12:21:44] <gamax92> hmm ...
L976[12:22:12] <Vexatos> Cruor, cute as heck
L977[12:22:18] <Cruor> Vexatos: quick, tell me how to use colorful upgrade
L978[12:23:06] <Cruor> ermagerd its cute
L979[12:23:21] <Vexatos> Cruor, http://phora.vex.tty.sh/code/colors.lua
L980[12:23:25] <Vexatos> wget that :>
L981[12:24:11] <Forecaster> Sangar: why doesn't the geolyzer consider lava replaceable?
L982[12:24:21] <Cruor> Vexatos: why doesnt creatix come with wget .-.
L983[12:24:23] <Cruor> am i derping .-.
L984[12:24:44] <Cruor> MAYBE i need a internet card
L985[12:24:52] <Forecaster> creatix has one
L986[12:25:14] <gamax92> SSLEngine is kinda complicated ... atleast in the initial handshake
L987[12:25:15] <Lizzy> if you're using one of the newer 1.6 builds, you need an internet card and the internet floppy to get the wget program
L988[12:29:07] <Vexatos> Lizzy, wrong
L989[12:29:12] <Vexatos> Cruor, it doesn't come with wget because your OC is outdated
L990[12:29:16] <Cruor> day 900, to stupid to install wget
L991[12:29:22] <Vexatos> update OC
L992[12:29:22] <Lizzy> ?
L993[12:30:03] <Cruor> Vexatos: cant though :p
L994[12:30:07] <Cruor> blame Odd
L995[12:30:29] <Vexatos> Lizzy, http://git.io/vKzjO
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L998[12:30:55] <Cruor> lets just wget wget
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L1000[12:30:58] <Cruor> :⁾
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L1003[12:31:47] <Cruor> how do i get the uuid of the hdd? :o
L1004[12:31:47] <Forecaster> but to do that you have to first wget wget
L1005[12:31:55] <Forecaster> tooltip
L1006[12:32:36] <Lizzy> Vexatos, well sorry for not watching every commit that gets pushed
L1007[12:32:57] <Vexatos> Cruor, .address
L1008[12:33:11] <Vexatos> or just run "components"
L1009[12:33:19] <Cruor> neither are correct
L1010[12:33:25] <Vexatos> df then?
L1011[12:33:26] <Vexatos> >_>
L1012[12:33:27] <Cruor> is this the wrong world or something .-.
L1013[12:33:35] <Forecaster> probably
L1014[12:33:56] <Cruor> hmm, df got it .-.
L1015[12:34:16] <gamax92> ohhh ...
L1016[12:34:24] <gamax92> that's why the internet floppy was poof.
L1017[12:34:44] <gamax92> Because too many people kept saying WHERE IS WGET
L1018[12:35:55] <Cruor> welp, im to stupid for this stuff apparantly .-.
L1019[12:36:12] <gamax92> Cruor: You
L1020[12:36:15] <gamax92> are a potato.
L1021[12:36:32] <Cruor> i dont think this robot has a hdd :I
L1022[12:36:48] <gamax92> oh the creatix thingies run from floppy iirc
L1023[12:40:36] <Vexatos> it does
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L1025[12:40:40] <Vexatos> until Cruor runs "install"
L1026[12:40:48] <Vexatos> ...which I expected him to do :X
L1027[12:40:58] <Vexatos> o already have done, actually
L1028[12:41:02] <Vexatos> s/o/to
L1029[12:41:02] <MichiBot> <Vexatos> to already have done, actually
L1030[12:41:49] <Cruor> Vexatos: i did, gave up life, back to twin furies :I
L1031[12:42:15] <Vexatos> :<
L1032[12:42:16] <gamax92> twin furries?
L1033[12:42:20] <Cruor> yes
L1034[12:42:22] <Cruor> exactly that
L1035[12:42:23] <Vexatos> But it's cute
L1036[12:42:35] <Vexatos> colors.lua is almost as cute as the radar upgrade D:
L1037[12:42:49] <Cruor> Vexatos: tell me next stream :p
L1038[12:42:49] <gamax92> Vexatos: put a lua interface to SSLEngine in Computronics for me kthx <3
L1039[12:43:42] <gamax92> I'm kidding don't
L1040[12:44:12] <Inari> so
L1041[12:44:15] <gamax92> Inari: no.
L1042[12:44:27] <Cruor> Inari: no
L1043[12:44:34] <Inari> lets say i want to measure water temperature and have a microcontroller read that.. whats the best way?.?
L1044[12:44:47] <Inari> something like https://cdn-shop.adafruit.com/970x728/381-00.jpg ?
L1045[12:45:09] <Cruor> barometer with image recognision
L1046[12:45:19] <gamax92> that is just wires and a resistor
L1047[12:45:48] <Inari> gamax92: "This is a pre-wired and waterproofed version of the DS18B20 sensor."
L1048[12:46:05] <gamax92> ahh okay
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L1050[12:51:34] <gamax92> hmm this threads-ffi library is actually rather small
L1051[12:51:46] <gamax92> the issue is that it'd force a dependency on sdl2
L1052[12:58:35] <Inari> so i guess i stick something like that into the water
L1053[12:58:40] <Inari> and have the microcontroller turn off/on the heating
L1054[12:58:42] <Inari> depending on temperature
L1055[13:00:26] <gamax92> "You're so hot you turn me off?"
L1056[13:00:46] <Inari> :P
L1057[13:00:52] <Inari> i wanna cook onsne eggs
L1058[13:00:58] <Inari> *onsen
L1059[13:01:28] <Cruor> did someone say burn down the house?
L1060[13:04:37] <Inari> http://imgur.com/gallery/WKSeJ
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L1062[13:06:39] <Inari> so
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L1064[13:06:57] <Inari> i need an genuino, proably some ADC converter thingy, some switch that the genuino can use, and a deep fryer
L1065[13:07:19] <gamax92> you are putting a fish tank in a deep fryer?
L1066[13:08:22] <Inari> no?
L1067[13:08:30] <Inari> ho wwould that even work
L1068[13:08:35] <Inari> that would either be a huge deep fryer
L1069[13:08:37] <Inari> or a tiny fish tank
L1070[13:08:48] <gamax92> tiny fish tank
L1071[13:08:54] <Vexatos> Inari, the first one is so wrong
L1072[13:08:55] <gamax92> they exist
L1073[13:09:04] <gamax92> hey Vexatos
L1074[13:09:10] <Vexatos> gamax92, hi
L1075[13:09:17] <gamax92> how dare you.
L1076[13:09:18] <Inari> Vexatos: how so? :o
L1077[13:09:46] <Vexatos> Inari, boric acid can get a pH of 9 in other solvants.
L1078[13:09:54] <Inari> :p
L1079[13:09:58] <Inari> in other solvant!
L1080[13:10:09] <Vexatos> yea, water can't.
L1081[13:10:16] <Inari> http://imgur.com/gallery/qa4gyTz
L1082[13:11:34] <Vexatos> Inari, only in Japan
L1083[13:11:34] <Vexatos> :>
L1084[13:12:18] <Vexatos> http://i.imgur.com/aCl4jvO.jpg ._.
L1085[13:14:11] <Cruor> wtf i missed 98% acc twice ;_;
L1086[13:14:32] <Inari> my japanese sunscreen arrived today, its pretty neat
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L1088[13:17:33] <Skye> Inari, why is it special. ._.
L1089[13:18:31] <Inari> asian sunscreens tend to be better :3 and this one is nice, soaks into the skin quickly and doesnt feel weird then :£
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L1092[13:34:33] <Skye> Inari, I just don't go into the sun.
L1093[13:35:15] <Inari> Skye: how does that work? :P you dont have windows and wear one of those full body thingies?
L1094[13:35:36] <Skye> I don't go outsite
L1095[13:35:41] <Inari> well
L1096[13:35:43] <Inari> windows and such
L1097[13:35:43] <Skye> and windows block UV light
L1098[13:35:50] <gamax92> ... Skye.
L1099[13:35:53] <Inari> thats special windows
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L1101[13:37:08] <Skye> Inari, gamax92: I checked with my dad
L1102[13:37:15] <Inari> Skye: UVA and UVB?
L1103[13:37:19] <gamax92> Yes because you dad is the almighty all knowing one
L1104[13:37:21] <Skye> he said that he got UV blocking windows in the bedrooms?
L1105[13:37:33] <Skye> gamax92, we installed windows quite a few years ago
L1106[13:37:36] <Inari> anyway
L1107[13:37:40] <Inari> i necessarily do go otuside :P
L1108[13:37:41] <Inari> so eh
L1109[13:37:58] <Skye> one of the features mentioned was blocks UV apparently
L1110[13:38:15] <gamax92> Inari: "Being outside is like the 5 second rule, if you're only outside for a few seconds you're damage free!" ~ an idiot
L1111[13:38:25] <Inari> lol
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L1113[13:38:46] <Skye> um
L1114[13:38:50] <Inari> and yes, you should wear sunscreen in wintera nd on rainy days
L1115[13:38:54] <Skye> UV damage scales with time
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L1121[14:22:55] <bigpodgurc> hi
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L1125[14:40:09] <Forecaster> wee, less than a minute
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L1127[14:40:29] <Ember_Primrose> Stupid Internets
L1128[14:43:39] <Forecaster> it's the internet gremlins
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L1130[14:45:17] <gamax92> >_> internet_ready never even fires
L1131[14:45:59] * Michiyo fires internet_ready
L1132[14:45:59] <gamax92> I do event.listen("internet_ready", print) and then connect to a socket, at no point does that ever fire
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L1134[14:50:47] <gamax92> anyway OCEmu has HTTP headers support now
L1135[14:51:14] <gamax92> my good ol java like serializer from cclite was useful here :v
L1136[14:53:24] <ThomasRules> gamax92: what's meant to trigger internet_ready
L1137[14:55:08] <gamax92> not a clue tbh :D
L1138[14:55:31] <gamax92> something tcp socket wise, but given if I can't get it in normal operation with a tcp socket then wtf is it fore
L1139[14:55:44] <ThomasRules> does it even exist?
L1140[14:55:50] <gamax92> yes it does ...
L1141[14:56:11] <ThomasRules> just, I can't find it on the signals wiki page
L1142[14:56:19] <gamax92> the wiki is outdated
L1143[14:56:57] <gamax92> ThomasRules: https://git.io/vKgTQ
L1144[14:57:20] <ThomasRules> does it trigger during the startup sequence/when an internet card is plugged in
L1145[14:57:22] * gamax92 pokes Magik6k
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L1147[14:57:31] <gamax92> why would it that has nothing to do with tcp sockets
L1148[14:58:37] <Magik6k> .
L1149[14:58:54] <ThomasRules> why is oc written in scala?
L1150[14:59:11] <ping> ThomasRules, because scala is better
L1151[14:59:13] <gamax92> Magik6k: what is internet_ready
L1152[14:59:20] <Magik6k> gamax92, that signal is sent when socket is becoming readable
L1153[14:59:44] <ThomasRules> so when you open a socket?
L1154[14:59:47] <gamax92> in my experience I never get it ever, not when connecting, not when doing the first read or any other reads afterwards
L1155[15:00:17] <Magik6k> gamax92, windows/linux?
L1156[15:00:31] <ThomasRules> when you do the socket setup (during internet.open)
L1157[15:00:48] <Magik6k> gamax92, did you do finishConnect?
L1158[15:01:22] <ThomasRules> btw magik6k, what do you think of my programs?
L1159[15:01:57] <gamax92> I'm on linux and no I haven't done finishConnec
L1160[15:02:13] <Magik6k> ThomasRules, not that bad nor exciting imo
L1161[15:02:31] <Magik6k> gamax92, fyinishConnect is what sets up that event
L1162[15:02:32] <gamax92> finishConnect has never been necessary for sockets
L1163[15:03:20] <gamax92> Magik6k: nope still didn't get it
L1164[15:05:13] <Magik6k> ThomasRules, when you asked for setup cod, I'm guessing you wanted this: https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/blob/master-MC1.7.10/src/main/scala/li/cil/oc/server/component/InternetCard.scala#L232
L1165[15:06:12] <Inari> cod
L1166[15:06:19] <Ember_Primrose> bass
L1167[15:07:26] <gamax92> Magik6k: read also does setupSelector
L1168[15:08:05] <Magik6k> gamax92, windows?
L1169[15:08:12] <gamax92> "linux"
L1170[15:08:36] <Magik6k> If you were to answer windows I'd blame crappy java
L1171[15:08:39] <Magik6k> hmm
L1172[15:09:42] <gamax92> You'd blame things things instead of actually looking into the problem because you don't realize windows users are your target users and it should work for them?
L1173[15:10:26] <Magik6k> In fact I don't see a way this could be broken now
L1174[15:10:43] <gamax92> Magik6k: Well I'm not getting an event :D
L1175[15:11:13] <Magik6k> gamax92, are using the latest jenkins version?
L1176[15:11:18] <gamax92> yes, downloaded today
L1177[15:11:37] <Magik6k> and you get connection.id()?
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L1180[15:13:03] <S3> Hey
L1181[15:13:19] <gamax92> Magik6k: http://i.imgur.com/EEJyPPB.png
L1182[15:13:49] <gamax92> note that not once does it ever print the event on screen
L1183[15:15:18] <Inari> oh good netcat
L1184[15:15:20] <Inari> *god
L1185[15:15:25] <Magik6k> WÜT
L1186[15:15:34] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWCzFe1B4rU
L1187[15:15:34] <MichiBot> The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya - Tomare! (Full) [HD/HQ] {Ending #2} | length: 3m 54s | Likes: 454 Dislikes: 4 Views: 76628 | by HDAnimeMusic
L1188[15:16:58] <Magik6k> gamax92, try running that on plan9k with 2GPU/2Screens with dmesg on one and Lua on the other
L1189[15:17:13] <Magik6k> But it's strange anyways
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L1191[15:22:16] <gamax92> I dunno I have bugs in the internet handling in OCEmu to fix
L1192[15:25:19] <gamax92> like in socket.read, the argument is not how many bytes to return it's how many initial bytes the bytebuffer contains
L1193[15:25:54] <Inari> https://www.reddit.com/r/aww/comments/4t4n11/waitress_gets_a_200_tip/
L1194[15:26:40] <Cruor> Inari: the anime series is death though ;_;
L1195[15:28:26] <Inari> Cruor: which? working? haruhi?
L1196[15:28:34] <Cruor> haruhi
L1197[15:28:41] <Inari> ah
L1198[15:28:42] <Inari> :p
L1199[15:28:56] <Cruor> endless 8 *shivers*
L1200[15:30:05] <Inari> kyon-kun, denwa
L1201[15:30:18] <Cruor> ;_; HELP
L1202[15:30:21] * Cruor bans Inari
L1203[15:30:48] <Inari> i feel like endless eight was somethign that sounded fun on paper
L1204[15:30:52] <Inari> but just was meh then
L1205[15:30:52] <Inari> :P
L1206[15:31:13] <Cruor> iirc its only done once in the LN(?)
L1207[15:31:21] <Inari> no clue
L1208[15:31:23] <Inari> didnt read the LN
L1209[15:32:18] <gamax92> .. what
L1210[15:32:26] <gamax92> Magik6k: and now it randomly fired, twice though
L1211[15:33:33] <gamax92> oh it fires every time you call finishConnect?
L1212[15:33:56] <gamax92> and on every read :/
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L1214[15:37:24] <gamax92> and now it's broken again, made a new socket and I get no events for it
L1215[15:46:12] <xandaros> “[16/7/2016 22:43:00 PM] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] §aOpenComputers§f: There were §cerrors§f running the class transformer. Please report this, together with your (full!) FML §alatest.log§f/§afml-server-latest.log§f logfile, thank you!” - Funny thing is - neither log tells me ANYTHING. No hint as to what could've gone wrong, so why get people to report it in the first place? (I'm
L1216[15:46:14] <xandaros> trying to fix this, btw, I'm getting annoyed at not being able to interface with other mods)
L1217[15:48:25] <gamax92> oh ... 10/10 Sangar you used the wrong index.
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L1219[15:52:36] <TheFox> hi everyone
L1220[15:52:49] <TheFox> wow, one hour to do m4v to mpg :(
L1221[15:54:24] <gamax92> why were you reencoding?
L1222[15:54:54] <TheFox> need to get to mp4
L1223[15:55:07] <gamax92> was mpg a typo? otherwise m4v is mp4 :P
L1224[15:55:26] <TheFox> i have been told not to do that
L1225[15:55:33] <TheFox> i dont see why not though
L1226[15:55:40] <gamax92> well was mpg a typo?
L1227[15:55:45] <TheFox> no
L1228[15:55:52] <TheFox> its m4v to mpg to mp4
L1229[15:56:07] <TheFox> that is how i was told to do it. i dont know why. maybe they want me to waste my day
L1230[15:56:14] <gamax92> I ... yeah wat
L1231[15:56:31] <gamax92> either way m4v just mean video only mp4, you can just rename
L1232[15:56:54] <TheFox> m4v has a different audio encoding
L1233[15:57:14] <gamax92> I'm probably mistaked, brb
L1234[15:57:31] <TheFox> gamax92: there very similar. just a different audio encoding
L1235[15:58:45] <Michiyo> fuck I need to get 1gb of data off of a computer with no USB, NIC, or serial. it has 1 modem, and I have no phone lines, and a floppy drive and I have no disks
L1236[15:59:19] <TheFox> then delete it
L1237[15:59:36] <TheFox> how about dropbox, Google drive, samba
L1238[15:59:40] <Michiyo> Helpful, thanks. Though I'm not sure what I expected from you.
L1239[15:59:50] <Michiyo> drop box... drive... samba... NO NIC...
L1240[15:59:51] <Temia> No NIC, Fox.
L1241[15:59:52] <gamax92> ThomasRules: "modem, phone lines, floppy drive"
L1242[16:00:08] <CompanionCube> ....Kermit?
L1243[16:00:08] <ThomasRules> what?
L1244[16:00:15] <Temia> Might be worth ordering a cheapo PCI NIC.
L1245[16:00:15] <CompanionCube> XMODEM?
L1246[16:00:24] <gamax92> ThomasRules: sorry wrong person ...
L1247[16:00:31] <ThomasRules> don't worry
L1248[16:00:46] <gamax92> Michiyo: what is it running?
L1249[16:00:46] <Temia> Or a UHCI card.
L1250[16:00:55] <Michiyo> gamax92, 98
L1251[16:01:05] <TheFox> Michiyo: your telling me that you dont have any form of accessing google drive or dropbox?
L1252[16:01:12] <Temia> I picked one of those up when I had to get USB controls on an old Alphastation
L1253[16:01:16] <gamax92> TheFox: yes that's exactly what she said
L1254[16:01:27] <Michiyo> How do I access the internet from a device with no access to the internet?
L1255[16:01:29] <TheFox> i find that hard to believe
L1256[16:01:33] <Temia> ...
L1257[16:01:35] * CompanionCube is tempted to whack TheFox with the hammer of 'NO NETWORK CARD'
L1258[16:01:36] * Temia facepalms
L1259[16:01:41] <Temia> IT'S A SYSTEM FROM BEFORE 1998.
L1260[16:01:44] <gamax92> Michiyo: yeah like Temia said, a USB card or an old PCI ethernet card like an rtl8139 should work for that
L1261[16:01:46] <TheFox> ik
L1262[16:02:11] <Michiyo> no USB PCI cards
L1263[16:02:15] <Temia> No USB, not even 1.1 -- onboard networking only started becoming common well into the 21st century
L1264[16:02:17] <CompanionCube> can you not take out the HDD and put it into another computer
L1265[16:02:30] <Michiyo> can't shut down
L1266[16:02:35] <gamax92> oh, damn.
L1267[16:02:36] <Temia> Seriously?
L1268[16:02:37] <TheFox> huh?
L1269[16:02:44] <Temia> In that case you're pretty well fucked.
L1270[16:02:47] <Skye> FDD!
L1271[16:02:53] <Skye> get a pack of floppy drives
L1272[16:02:55] <Skye> *disks
L1273[16:02:56] <Temia> Hahaha
L1274[16:02:58] <Temia> from where
L1275[16:02:59] <Skye> and get a USB FDD
L1276[16:03:03] <Skye> amazon
L1277[16:03:09] <gamax92> Skye: "Can't shut down" means can't install a usb fdd
L1278[16:03:11] <Temia> And who would want to go through 1,000 read/write cycles
L1279[16:03:22] <gamax92> also it doesn't have usb ports anyway
L1280[16:03:31] <Skye> gamax92, if it's from 1998 then it should have a built in FDD
L1281[16:03:38] <gamax92> she said that.
L1282[16:03:38] <Temia> Michiyo said it had a floppy drive, but she had no disks.
L1283[16:03:54] <Temia> And I'm guessing the "cannot shut down" clause is for the old system, not the new one?
L1284[16:03:57] <CompanionCube> does the phone line support dialup
L1285[16:03:58] <Michiyo> Yes
L1286[16:04:06] <TheFox> internet access
L1287[16:04:07] <Michiyo> We don't have a phone line back there
L1288[16:04:09] <Temia> No phoneline.
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L1290[16:04:16] <TheFox> still has capability
L1291[16:04:22] <Michiyo> and no dial up account, and upload a gb of data via dialup?
L1292[16:04:23] <Temia> No.
L1293[16:04:27] <Temia> It does not, Fox.
L1294[16:04:30] <CompanionCube> can you connect the modem to anything?
L1295[16:04:34] <Temia> You have never used a dialup modem, have you.
L1296[16:04:35] <Michiyo> I'll manually transcribe that shit via hexeditor :P
L1297[16:04:44] <Skye> oh
L1298[16:04:50] <Skye> a GB of data?
L1299[16:04:59] <gamax92> Skye do you never listen.
L1300[16:05:01] <Michiyo> well, 896mb
L1301[16:05:08] <Michiyo> it's a 1gb drive
L1302[16:05:11] <Temia> One could POSSIBLY jury-rig something to fake a carrier and set up a modem on the new computer as a listener but it takes a LOT of hackery
L1303[16:05:30] <Temia> I've looked into the matter, it is NOT simple
L1304[16:05:53] <Skye> why can't the computer shut down?
L1305[16:06:40] <Michiyo> It's a very old system and the last time it was restarted it almost didn't come back up, and it's got a $10,000 piece of software on it
L1306[16:07:04] <TheFox> um
L1307[16:07:05] <TheFox> um
L1308[16:07:11] <Michiyo> It can't be shut down until the new system is ready
L1309[16:07:23] <Temia> Looks like jury-rigging a phoneline emulator is the only option.
L1310[16:07:25] <Michiyo> It's part of the control system for our water plant wooooooo
L1311[16:07:35] <gamax92> ahh I see.
L1312[16:07:40] <Temia> Got a ratshack nearby?
L1313[16:07:45] <asie> Michiyo: Write a program to use text mode to display the data as solid blocks.
L1314[16:07:51] <asie> Write a webcam tool to recognize the solid block colors.
L1315[16:07:53] <asie> Wait.
L1316[16:07:55] <asie> Add CRC checking.
L1317[16:07:57] <asie> Wait.
L1318[16:08:04] <Michiyo> lol
L1319[16:08:07] <asie> If you use 80x25 and all 16 colors
L1320[16:08:15] <Temia> That would take so long to run c.c;
L1321[16:08:20] <asie> that gives you 58 kilobytes a second
L1322[16:08:24] <Michiyo> I'd love to watch it though lmao
L1323[16:08:26] <asie> it's faster than serial really
L1324[16:08:37] <asie> 18 seconds per megabyte
L1325[16:08:47] <gamax92> #lua 18*896
L1326[16:08:48] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 16128
L1327[16:08:51] <asie> you could go 80x50 and 9 seconds per megabyte
L1328[16:08:54] <gamax92> #lua 16128/60
L1329[16:08:54] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 268.8
L1330[16:08:56] <Michiyo> The sad thing is the "new system" is just a fucking windows 98 VM... running the data I pull
L1331[16:08:57] <gamax92> #lua 16128/60/60
L1332[16:08:57] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 4.48
L1333[16:09:01] <asie> and be done in just 2.25 hours
L1334[16:09:02] <Temia> Is there even a build system on the old system?
L1335[16:09:07] <asie> Build system?
L1336[16:09:09] <asie> Use ASM
L1337[16:09:12] <asie> DEBUG.EXE must be on it if it's 98...
L1338[16:10:01] <vifino> '.'
L1339[16:10:19] <Skye> asie, willing to write the software, then?
L1340[16:10:38] <asie> Skye: No. Unless I get paid.
L1341[16:10:58] <Temia> http://www.jagshouse.com/modem.html
L1342[16:11:32] <TheFox> i have everything i need for that right inferno of me :D looks pretty simple
L1343[16:13:08] <TheFox> in front of me not inferno.
L1344[16:15:48] <Temia> Michiyo, think you might be able to put together something with that?
L1345[16:15:56] <xandaros> AHA! It can't patch renderLeash. The info was actually in the client log -_- Talk about misleading error messages
L1346[16:16:13] <TheFox> that came out of left field
L1347[16:16:33] <Temia> Xandaros was talking about it earlier.
L1348[16:16:58] <xandaros> I was - and then suddenly a lot of chatter in here xD
L1349[16:17:46] <TheFox> because someone is using a very outdated machine. not pointing fingers though
L1350[16:18:14] <Temia> Fox, if you're not going to be helpful...
L1351[16:19:03] <Michiyo> back sorry had customers
L1352[16:19:15] <TheFox> yup, probably not to much help when it comes to dialup and modems, no. but i know when to keep quite
L1353[16:19:32] <Temia> Then why aren't you.
L1354[16:19:44] <TheFox> Michiyo: check out the link that Temia sent, its pretty simple for your problem
L1355[16:20:54] <Michiyo> Temia, hmmm that might work I DO have another older machine next to it also with a modem but with USB and nic
L1356[16:21:30] <Temia> Excellent. Hopefully you can get an interface and terminal communication going then
L1357[16:22:41] <Michiyo> Thanks I'll see if I can get that working, sadly it'll be monday before I can get bac kto the machine
L1358[16:22:50] <Michiyo> but it'll give me time to work something up
L1359[16:22:58] <Temia> Mm. Best of luck then.
L1360[16:25:35] <TheFox> good luck Michiyo
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L1365[16:59:48] <Inari> payonel: https://scontent.fsvg1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13669605_1370647352963698_1108678648208245406_n.png?oh=20d14c49879180f771855107bcd186b2&oe=5834C02D
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L1371[17:21:02] <Ember_Primrose> ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ /
L1372[17:21:26] <Ember_Primrose> How do you gusy usually sort items and stuff in mc?
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L1374[17:22:20] <bigpodgurc> guys can you please help me
L1375[17:22:29] <asie> ?
L1376[17:22:43] <bigpodgurc> i have a problem with a program
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L1378[17:22:56] <bigpodgurc> let me get it to pastebin
L1379[17:24:10] <bigpodgurc> http://pastebin.com/eZa0UCte
L1380[17:24:40] <bigpodgurc> please tell me what is wrong i wanna use component.proxy
L1381[17:24:56] <bigpodgurc> i have latest version of 1.7.10
L1382[17:27:08] <gamax92> what error message are you getting
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L1384[17:27:41] <gamax92> also line 8 doesn't say 'local' but instead '-ocal'
L1385[17:28:06] <bigpodgurc> that is error on my part because i was testing
L1386[17:28:12] <bigpodgurc> it should be local
L1387[17:28:24] <gamax92> okay, but yeah what error message are you getting
L1388[17:28:59] <bigpodgurc> its long something about line 13 and reactorone
L1389[17:29:37] <gamax92> screenshot then?
L1390[17:29:58] <bigpodgurc> what site for screenshot
L1391[17:30:07] <gamax92> I dunno, imgur.com
L1392[17:31:41] <bigpodgurc> screenshot http://imgur.com/sLrmmpE
L1393[17:32:28] <gamax92> that's just because your assignment to reactortwo is commented out
L1394[17:32:51] <bigpodgurc> i corrected it and still same error
L1395[17:34:02] <gamax92> bigpodgurc: http://pastebin.com/jPfiJDdc
L1396[17:34:22] <gamax92> ... yay I typo'd local as lcoal
L1397[17:34:37] <bigpodgurc> saw
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L1399[17:35:09] <gamax92> but yeah ignoring that typo, if it still complains that reactortwo is nil then that might not be the right address
L1400[17:35:24] <bigpodgurc> thanks gonna check
L1401[17:36:05] <bigpodgurc> yea thanks it was wrong address one letter wass different
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L1404[17:38:46] <bigpodgurc> now lets apply this to my actual program
L1405[17:44:28] <gamax92> so much stupidity in Android like, the wget binary outputs its data to stdout, so I redirect it to a file, turns out it's also writing information to stdout, so my file is corrupted
L1406[17:44:38] <gamax92> so used curl instead
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L1411[18:07:12] <bigpodgurc> gamax92 here is my full program http://pastebin.com/J0pyrDff
L1412[18:07:20] <bigpodgurc> what do you think
L1413[18:07:42] <bigpodgurc> and once again thank you for your help
L1414[18:08:04] <Mimiru> lemme introduce you to the wonders of component.get :P
L1415[18:08:43] <Mimiru> reactoroneaddress = component.get("18f869") reactortwoaddress = component.get("123f33") You might not even need that many characters, I've used 3-4 before
L1416[18:09:20] <Mimiru> So if your address changes, you don't have to deal with the entire address, or as you just had fun with, a single character off
L1417[18:09:44] <bigpodgurc> thanks
L1418[18:10:02] <bigpodgurc> im just starting with open computers so i do not know much
L1419[18:10:49] <Mimiru> Np ^_^
L1420[18:11:29] <Mimiru> Also, indenting will help code readability Also yay, I helped with the BigReactor component stuff heh
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L1422[18:12:30] <bigpodgurc> thats only problem with all my code c++ and that it isnt readable for anyone then me
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L1424[18:17:08] <ThomasRules> why are computercraft code and opencomputers code so similar yet so different
L1425[18:17:16] <Ember_Primrose> goodnight peeps
L1426[18:17:38] <Vexatos> "Similar"
L1427[18:17:43] <Vexatos> Cruor, he says it's similar ._.
L1428[18:17:44] <Vexatos> help
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L1430[18:18:09] <ThomasRules> they're different enough that one won't run on the other, but similar enough that you tear your hair out looking for the slight difference that you missed
L1431[18:18:27] <ThomasRules> things like similar events returning an extra parameter
L1432[18:18:46] <Temia> They use a common language but significantly different versions of said language, not to mention entirely incompatible APIs.
L1433[18:19:41] <Vexatos> Temia, well Ubuntu and Arch both are written in C :P
L1434[18:19:50] <Mimiru> I remember when OC came out... if it had ran CC code out of the box, the hate would have been 1000000 fold
L1435[18:20:03] <Mimiru> It was bad enough as it was
L1436[18:20:03] <Temia> Parts of them are.
L1437[18:20:05] <gamax92> Vexatos: untrue
L1438[18:20:10] <Temia> Parts of them are written in bash.
L1439[18:20:12] <ThomasRules> vexatos: well, they're similar enough that I thought more would be similar, and for the most part, it would be a matter of swapping said function for said equivalent function
L1440[18:20:16] <gamax92> Parts are written in python
L1441[18:20:18] <Vexatos> Temia, which is written in C :P
L1442[18:20:20] <Temia> Parts of them are written in perl or python.
L1443[18:20:28] <Vexatos> which is written in C
L1444[18:20:30] <Vexatos> :>
L1445[18:20:37] <gamax92> Lua was also written in C
L1446[18:20:39] <Vexatos> Yep
L1447[18:20:45] <gamax92> are you going to try to say that Lua 5.1 is the same as 5.2 or 5.3
L1448[18:20:48] <Vexatos> And Java is written in C :>
L1449[18:20:55] <gamax92> not necessarly true
L1450[18:20:57] <Temia> But who sees the C compiler? `<`
L1451[18:21:01] <ThomasRules> btw, has anyone done something like luaide for computercraft on opencomputers?
L1452[18:21:06] <gamax92> ThomasRules:
L1453[18:21:17] <gamax92> yeah, I ran luaide in ccemu
L1454[18:21:20] <Vexatos> *ADVERTISEMENT*
L1455[18:21:25] <ThomasRules> I'm saying they're similar
L1456[18:21:39] <ThomasRules> wait, where can I get ccemu
L1457[18:21:44] <gamax92> I
L1458[18:21:51] <gamax92> dskfjsdf keyboard staph.
L1459[18:22:02] <Vexatos> I or l
L1460[18:22:06] * Vexatos has sans serif :X
L1461[18:22:07] <gamax92> I need to put ccemu on oppm
L1462[18:22:09] <Mimiru> Your leyboard had staph? sorry to hear...
L1463[18:22:18] <Mimiru> keyboard too
L1464[18:22:18] <gamax92> Mimiru: :>
L1465[18:22:30] <Temia> I wonder what a leyboard would be like
L1466[18:22:35] <Temia> Can you surf leylines with it?
L1467[18:22:40] <Mimiru> Yes
L1468[18:22:45] <Temia> Ooh :o
L1469[18:23:06] <gamax92> I also need to make it not depend on ComputerCraft's lua
L1470[18:23:06] <Vexatos> well this certainly is plot for an anime.
L1471[18:23:13] <Temia> They should make a leylev train network with those!
L1472[18:23:24] <Vexatos> Most certainly >_>
L1473[18:23:32] <Vexatos> Temia, wow
L1474[18:23:33] <gamax92> hey Vexatos, do you know if oppm will work with git submodules? :P
L1475[18:23:37] <Temia> What? D:
L1476[18:23:42] <Vexatos> gamax92, eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
L1477[18:23:45] <Vexatos> uh
L1478[18:23:47] <Vexatos> ehm
L1479[18:23:49] <Vexatos> uh
L1480[18:23:52] <gamax92> it's okay I can't really use them anyway
L1481[18:24:13] <gamax92> since I can't extract a list of files to automagically put in oppm's programs.cfg
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L1483[18:25:19] <gamax92> ThomasRules: https://github.com/gamax92/OCScriptDev/tree/master/ccemu
L1484[18:25:39] <ThomasRules> literally just found it as you posted it
L1485[18:25:49] <bigpodgurc> does anyone know if there is a program in opencomputers so i can send files trough network
L1486[18:26:11] <gamax92> heh
L1487[18:26:18] <Temia> I wonder if you could pull CraftOS and run it in CCEmu to create a CCVM
L1488[18:26:28] <gamax92> CraftOS will run in that
L1489[18:26:48] <Temia> Neat :O
L1490[18:27:18] <gamax92> but it can also run single programs, and yeah as mentioned before it currently requires you have the rom/apis folder from ComputerCraft
L1491[18:27:48] <gamax92> also has not been tested on any recent CC lua stuff, so will have to make sure that is okay, and it also needs fixes in general
L1492[18:28:04] <gamax92> and hacks, there are things that are not possible to emulate.
L1493[18:29:13] <bigpodgurc> is there a program in OC that i have a computer in network as a storage location
L1494[18:29:33] <gamax92> yeah, a couple of them have been posted on the forums iirc
L1495[18:30:19] <ThomasRules> where do I grab that apis folder?
L1496[18:30:24] <ThomasRules> and where do I put it?
L1497[18:30:49] <bigpodgurc> can you point me to one that works i have used one but since i updated to most latest build on curse 1.6.0.6 beta 4
L1498[18:31:06] <gamax92> ThomasRules: https://github.com/alekso56/ComputercraftLua/tree/master/rom/apis
L1499[18:31:19] <ThomasRules> wheres it go?
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L1501[18:31:35] <gamax92> and you specify the location when running ccemu by --apipath
L1502[18:31:41] <bigpodgurc> i used serverFS
L1503[18:31:47] <gamax92> bigpodgurc: that one
L1504[18:31:56] <gamax92> does it not work anymore
L1505[18:32:30] <bigpodgurc> in 1.6.0.6 beta 4 it doesnt work
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L1507[18:36:45] <ThomasRules> gamax92: you said you had luaide working in ccemu
L1508[18:36:59] <ThomasRules> it crashes at line 973 for me
L1509[18:37:08] <ping> ThomasRules, what error
L1510[18:37:10] <gamax92> because of a function called goto, right?
L1511[18:37:15] <ThomasRules> yeah
L1512[18:37:19] <ping> lol
L1513[18:37:24] <Temia> kek
L1514[18:37:29] <ping> thats because luaIDE is poorly coded
L1515[18:37:40] <gamax92> also invalid escape seqeuence because CC's LuaJ doesn't care but Lua does
L1516[18:37:43] <ping> just replace goto with _goto
L1517[18:38:08] <gamax92> that's one of the many hacks that might be necessary
L1518[18:38:17] <ping> gamax92, cant we patch string API/metatable
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L1520[18:38:28] <gamax92> for the escape seqeuences?
L1521[18:38:41] <ping> yeah
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L1523[18:38:49] <gamax92> Don't think so, it's an error when loading the script
L1524[18:39:07] <ping> oh its a syntax thing
L1525[18:39:07] <ping> derp
L1526[18:39:19] <ping> i thought you meant pattern escapes
L1527[18:40:22] <ThomasRules> would replacing every \ with \\ work to fix escape sequences in luaide?
L1528[18:40:29] <gamax92> no that wouild break it
L1529[18:40:48] <ThomasRules> how to I fix the invalid escape sequence error?
L1530[18:40:51] <gamax92> the issue is that it's escaping stuff that shouldn't be escaped, like \( and \), just make that ( and )
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L1532[18:43:40] <ThomasRules> ok, programs can't run inside it (that was probably obvious tbh)
L1533[18:43:45] <gamax92> what?
L1534[18:44:04] <ThomasRules> I got it working, wrote a hello world, pressed run and it crashed the ide
L1535[18:44:13] <gamax92> probably because of setfenv
L1536[18:44:18] <ThomasRules> yep
L1537[18:44:45] <gamax92> which, is one of the many changes between 5.1 and 5.2, and functions change their own environment by setting _ENV or on load()
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L1539[18:45:10] <gamax92> there's only a hacky stub in ccemu because I'd need the debug api to fix that
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L1542[18:45:28] <bigpodgurc> gamax92 serverFS doesnt work when i go in srv and try to do anything it just waits and stops on server it just says waiting on message
L1543[18:45:49] <ThomasRules> btw, the http api from computercraft just crashed it
L1544[18:46:23] <gamax92> *cough* it may have not been worked on since july of last year *cough*
L1545[18:46:35] <gamax92> I'll look into this stuff tonight
L1546[18:46:55] <ThomasRules> apparently the link you sent me doesn't have the http api
L1547[18:47:03] <ThomasRules> which is probably why
L1548[18:47:07] <gamax92> I forgot why ...
L1549[18:47:26] <bigpodgurc> ok thx it did work on stable version its probably something with changes in beta version
L1550[18:49:44] <gamax92> .. oh haha ... http is actually simple to add into ccemu
L1551[18:51:30] <bigpodgurc> just figured it out you need to have network stack installed
L1552[18:53:21] <gamax92> bigpodgurc: the network floppy?
L1553[18:53:52] <bigpodgurc> yeah it needs network floppy
L1554[18:54:07] <gamax92> okay thanks
L1555[18:54:33] * Mimiru screams
L1556[18:54:48] <gamax92> what happened?
L1557[18:55:31] <Mimiru> My coremod doesn't run in 1.9
L1558[18:55:52] <gamax92> what's the coremod do
L1559[18:56:04] <Mimiru> In OpenFM it unpacks the SPIs
L1560[18:58:22] <bigpodgurc> thanks guys bye
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L1562[18:58:36] <Mimiru> ._. I think how coremods got defined in gradle got changed
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L1564[19:01:08] <Mimiru> \o/ rendering is fucked, and my coremod doesn't work in 1.9 I knew that port went too easy
L1565[19:01:08] <Mimiru> lol
L1566[19:01:45] <ThomasRules> gamaz92: all the keybinds aside from typing are also broken]
L1567[19:01:58] <ThomasRules> things like ctrl-s to save, ctrl-q to quit
L1568[19:02:30] <gamax92> ThomasRules: it's okay I know I'mma fix things okay.
L1569[19:02:38] <gamax92> it's gonna be alright
L1570[19:02:46] <TheFox> Mimiru: sounds bad. good luck fixing
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L1572[19:05:29] <Mimiru> The coremod pcl.OpenFM.misc.OFMDepLoader does not have a MCVersion annotation, it may cause issues with this version of Minecraft
L1573[19:05:33] <Mimiru> So it's detected...
L1574[19:05:35] <Mimiru> but it does nothing
L1575[19:05:45] <TheFox> theres a start
L1576[19:05:58] <ThomasRules> ok, here's my copy of luaide that I made a few changes to (getting it working and making files only be created in /home) https://github.com/ThomasRules2000/ThomasOCPrograms
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L1579[19:08:21] <ThomasRules> btw, you should probably demonstrate ccemu in the oc booth at btm if you aren't already
L1580[19:08:56] <Temia> To say that OC does CC better than CC does? :P
L1581[19:09:01] <gamax92> but BTM is broken, no?
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L1584[19:09:30] <gamax92> I peek into the channel and the first thing I see is "I stood over void and crashed"
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L1586[19:09:43] <Mimiru> gamax92, someone else is doing it
L1587[19:09:56] <Mimiru> https://btm.unascribed.com/
L1588[19:10:00] <gamax92> Yes I know .....
L1589[19:10:06] <gamax92> it's been said 3048249 times
L1590[19:10:20] <Mimiru> Then you know it's not "broken"
L1591[19:10:47] <gamax92> Mimiru: BTM has has world corruption, disappearing hard drives, wrong items being dropped, tons of crashing
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L1593[19:11:43] <gamax92> also it runs like shit because someone decided to make a super detailed booth that drags your fps down
L1594[19:11:50] <TheFox> and yet the website says bug free
L1595[19:12:11] <gamax92> TheFox: that's sarcasm.
L1596[19:12:17] <TheFox> i bet thats true
L1597[19:12:29] <gamax92> ._.
L1598[19:12:33] <Mimiru> [19:12:03] [main/INFO] [STDOUT]: [pcl.OpenFM.misc.OFMDepLoader:load:14]: Unpacking Sound plugins to mods directory Ok... and my load() is being called
L1599[19:12:38] <Mimiru> but it never fucking unpacks
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L1601[19:13:19] <TheFox> Mimiru: oookkk.
L1602[19:21:07] <Mimiru> q_Q
L1603[19:21:11] <Mimiru> q_q*
L1604[19:21:16] <TheFox> yes?
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L1607[19:23:10] <gamax92> "<TheFox> i know when to keep quite"
L1608[19:23:35] <Mimiru> I love it when code that works fine somewhere else just magically doesn't
L1609[19:23:36] <TheFox> gamax92: o_o i um i never said that
L1610[19:23:50] <Mimiru> Yeah... you did
L1611[19:23:54] <TheFox> ah i hate that to
L1612[19:24:01] <TheFox> lets change the subject :)
L1613[19:24:08] <TheFox> this is not about me its about your mod
L1614[19:24:16] <gamax92> then shut up.
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L1616[19:24:29] <TheFox> gamax92: now is not the time for me to be quite. that is later
L1617[19:24:31] <gamax92> you're not helping at all.
L1618[19:24:44] <TheFox> nor am i being counter productive
L1619[19:25:07] <TheFox> i asked a question. i did not give a sarcastic remark
L1620[19:25:42] <Mimiru> FileUtils.copyResourcesRecursively(new URL("file://" + jar + "/assets/opensecurity/sounds/alarms/"), f); That extracts the sounds from that path in the OpenSec jar
L1621[19:26:14] <Mimiru> FileUtils.copyResourcesRecursively(new URL("file://" + jar + "/assets/openfm/deps/"), f); that throws an error
L1622[19:26:14] <Mimiru> [19:18:50] [main/INFO] [STDERR]: [pcl.OpenFM.misc.FileUtils:copyFile:25]: java.io.FileNotFoundException: \Users\Michi\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\mods\OpenFM-1.9.4-0.1.0.0.jar\assets\openfm\deps (The system cannot find the path specified)
L1623[19:26:18] * vifino makes sure drunk Lizzy goes to bed
L1624[19:27:18] <TheFox> vifino: that sounds a little off. Mimer i think i found the problem... your using windows.
L1625[19:27:19] <Mimiru> http://michi.pc-logix.com/WinRAR_2016-07-16_19-27-35.png and the path is there
L1626[19:27:41] <Mimiru> "i did not give a sarcastic remark"
L1627[19:27:44] <Mimiru> No.. but then you did
L1628[19:27:53] <TheFox> i just did yes, after i said that sentence
L1629[19:28:12] <TheFox> plus i was being productive i clicked your link and I'm actually looking
L1630[19:28:18] <Izaya> TheFox: it's spelled quiet
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L1632[19:28:27] <vifino> TheFox: The fuck you wnat?
L1633[19:28:28] <TheFox> Izaya: quiet
L1634[19:28:29] <vifino> want*
L1635[19:30:57] <Izaya> TheFox: exactly
L1636[19:34:30] <TheFox> vifino: to answer your question. what i want is not important right now
L1637[19:36:50] <TheFox> Mimiru: you think you could get it to try and open another zip with random files in it to see if its the zip thats the problem?
L1638[19:38:16] <Mimiru> gamax92, you just dealt with this same issue didn't you?
L1639[19:38:24] <Mimiru> It was something stupid simple
L1640[19:38:30] <Mimiru> but damned if I can remember the fix
L1641[19:42:05] <gamax92> Mimiru: my issue was that file didn't have two slashes
L1642[19:42:21] <gamax92> and I had mentioned that looking at your old loader it also didn't have two slashes
L1643[19:42:27] <Mimiru> oh
L1644[19:42:36] <Mimiru> And I'm using 2 slashes..
L1645[19:43:01] <TheFox> problem resolved?
L1646[19:43:09] <gamax92> no
L1647[19:43:56] <TheFox> oh, i should read before i ask...
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L1654[20:13:50] <Mimiru> huh....
L1655[20:14:00] <Mimiru> switched to a different method in my FileUtils class
L1656[20:14:01] <Mimiru> and it worked
L1657[20:15:27] <Mimiru> switched to copyJarResourcesRecursively
L1658[20:15:29] <Mimiru> so meh
L1659[20:15:41] <Mimiru> Ok, back to figuring out the rendeing
L1660[20:15:44] <Mimiru> rendering too
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L1667[20:50:17] <gamax92> "Retry long limit:7" "in a lossy environment this value results in a constantly overflowing packet queue, skyrocketing latency and, at some point, a disconnect."
L1668[20:50:29] <gamax92> this is exactly what I experience, skyrocketing latency and then disconnects
L1669[20:51:46] <gamax92> "Error for wireless request "Set Retry Limit" (8B28) : invalid argument" ;~;
L1670[20:51:50] * Mimiru burns TESR
L1671[20:51:56] * gamax92 burns broadcom
L1672[20:53:09] <Mimiru> http://michi.pc-logix.com/2016-07-16_20-53-24.mp4
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L1678[21:20:47] <PowerUpToTheMax> hi
L1679[21:21:25] <PowerUpToTheMax> i doing this from my owver powed minecraft sever computer
L1680[21:22:13] <PowerUpToTheMax> hello?
L1681[21:22:33] <PowerUpToTheMax> brb
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L1683[21:29:13] <PowerUpToTheMax> hello
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L1688[21:45:15] <Mimiru> Fuck it I'm done fucking with the stupid bullshit
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L1692[21:55:31] <Antheus> lol
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