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L9[00:19:35] <payonel> ~oc install
L10[00:19:35] <ocdoc> Predicted http://ocd.cil.li/component:signals
L11[00:19:50] <payonel> gamax92: o/
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L13[00:20:22] <payonel> ~oc gamax92
L14[00:20:23] <ocdoc> Predicted http://www.lua.org/manual/5.2/manual.html#pdf-math.max ( I tried D: )
L15[00:21:35] <payonel> gamax92: i need a couple test components
L16[00:21:40] <gamax92> I need to sleep.
L17[00:21:45] <payonel> ok
L18[00:21:48] <payonel> goodnight
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L22[00:24:53] <payonel> ~oc component
L23[00:24:53] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component
L24[00:25:12] <payonel> ~oc component api
L25[00:25:13] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/api:component
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L45[03:07:13] <gamax92> hmm ...
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L57[05:16:23] <Inari> "I don't know about you, but I like to solve my problems by kidnapping pretty girls and tying them up in my basement" ~Yandere Dev 2016
L58[05:24:47] * Izaya is 100% done with everything
L59[05:24:54] <Izaya> someone did fizzbuzz in pure html/css
L60[05:35:13] <GreaseMonkey> ok that's kinda cool
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L63[05:47:00] <Inari> Izaya: how does that even work
L64[05:50:45] <Izaya> https://8ch.net/tech/res/589938.html#603059
L65[06:01:15] <alekso56> Izaya: the pre int solution is genius.
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L72[06:27:27] <Kodos> So, Factorization is dead then?
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L83[08:09:42] <Inari> hm
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L89[08:36:59] <Inari> ~oc gpu
L90[08:36:59] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:gpu
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L94[09:14:36] * Tris slides in
L95[09:14:42] <Tris> i'm bored
L96[09:14:48] <Tris> i need another mod to do art for
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L98[09:16:06] <Inari> ~oc filesystem
L99[09:16:06] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/api:filesystem
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L104[09:24:23] <Kodos> Going through my local puush backups, and I'm reminded of one of many reasons I despise AmandaC
L105[09:24:49] <Lordmau5> The only thing I did with my puush backups was... backing it up?
L106[09:24:54] <Lordmau5> Puush is "deprecated" :^)
L107[09:25:15] <Lordmau5> I've pretty much lost all my files on it anyway
L108[09:25:20] <Kodos> Oh, neat, I found the screenshot I took of Pastebin announcing me winning a lifetime pro account
L109[09:27:32] <Kodos> Oh, nice, and there's my early stages of localization testing
L110[09:28:41] <Lordmau5> AMAZINGMINECRAFTSTATSGONEWRONGYOUWONTBELIEVEWHATHAPPENNEXTCOMPILATION2016.jpg
L111[09:30:53] <Cruor> Kodos: all of the reasons? :p
L112[09:31:06] <Cruor> she was scary at times :v
L113[09:31:12] <Inari> :f
L114[09:31:33] <Kodos> Nah, it was her saying "Briman don't summon V.ex and co, they'll try to sell you an OC dildo or something"
L115[09:31:35] <Cruor> Inari: she was though :v
L116[09:31:55] <Inari> why did writing to this file break
L117[09:31:55] <Inari> D:
L118[09:32:04] <Kodos> Because you touch yourself at night
L119[09:32:13] <Kodos> Also brb I need to go cash a 280$ check :3
L120[09:32:16] <Inari> i mean, i do, i dont see how it relates though
L121[09:32:47] <Cruor> Inari: it always does
L122[09:32:52] <Tris> they have a quantum relationship
L123[09:33:10] <Cruor> why do it at night? :I
L124[09:33:32] <Inari> debugging is such a pain in OC
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L126[09:33:32] <Inari> :D
L127[09:33:57] <Cruor> yea, so much easier in CC with the debug lib... oh wait...
L128[09:34:09] <Inari> debug lib is useless
L129[09:34:13] <Cruor> we have stacktraces and everyth.... oh wait
L130[09:35:03] <Inari> im so confused
L131[09:35:10] <Cruor> Kodos: setting up a stall for selling CC dildos
L132[09:35:11] <Cruor> fearme
L133[09:36:31] <Cruor> we have 16 colors, top quality, just for you
L134[09:36:36] <Kodos> Lol
L135[09:36:38] <Kodos> Back Soon™
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L138[09:37:33] <Cruor> Inari: top quality, just for you my frien
L139[09:38:31] <Inari> welp
L140[09:38:41] <Inari> somehow i managed OC to not write files till i relogged
L141[09:38:41] <Inari> :f
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L143[09:42:53] <Cruor> why does my laptop hate sun :I
L144[09:43:09] <Inari> oc really doesnt like if i edit files it seems
L145[09:43:58] <Cruor> would you like if people edited your files?!
L146[09:44:53] <Inari> depends
L147[09:46:16] <Cruor> :v lewd
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L149[09:57:54] <Inari> woo my optimisation so far managed to turn 5 fps into 0.16 fps
L150[09:59:15] <Inari> and up to 0.6 fps \o/
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L152[10:00:10] <Cruor> Inari: what r u doin'
L153[10:00:21] <Inari> raytrace rendering :f
L154[10:00:28] <Cruor> oh god send help
L155[10:03:45] <Inari> right
L156[10:03:52] <Inari> somehow this new optimization of using fills decreased perofrmance
L157[10:03:53] <Inari> :D
L158[10:06:54] <Inari> hm
L159[10:07:00] <Inari> coudl you nto change loop vars while looping in lua?
L160[10:07:22] <Inari> you could not
L161[10:07:22] <Inari> damn
L162[10:07:36] * Saphire nibbles on Inari
L163[10:08:50] <Inari> Saphire: tasty?
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L165[10:10:12] <Saphire> eh, you're not a gem
L166[10:10:16] * Saphire nibbles on a ruby
L167[10:10:41] <Inari> woo 1.66 fps
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L169[10:10:53] <Saphire> what'cha playing?
L170[10:11:01] * Saphire shakes Porygon
L171[10:11:12] <Saphire> dat vanity ipv6
L172[10:11:22] <Inari> my raytrace renderer
L173[10:11:26] * Saphire has no ipv6 hosts except for a virtual network
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L177[10:17:28] <Inari> woo 6~10 fps :P
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L179[10:17:48] <Inari> without texture even though :x
L180[10:18:24] <Inari> N> better resolutio,n video ram, or something
L181[10:21:28] <CompanionCube> lenovo are being chucklefucks again
L182[10:21:34] <CompanionCube> http://fortune.com/2016/06/02/lenovo-yoga-vulnerability/
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L185[10:22:39] <CompanionCube> Skye, Izaya ^
L186[10:25:19] <S3> need to make it better, but it's coming
L187[10:25:21] <S3> http://hastebin.com/eyebudinac.lua
L188[10:25:41] <S3> I wonder
L189[10:25:53] <S3> is there a way to load lua code form a file and cleanly load more code...
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L191[10:25:58] <S3> before executing it
L192[10:26:10] <S3> without string concatenation
L193[10:26:35] <S3> like, every process right now does require('process') so that it builds a process descrition table.
L194[10:26:38] <S3> then it returns it
L195[10:26:54] <S3> it'd be neat if I could at least make it load it without the need for require()
L196[10:27:11] <S3> granted you'd still have to return it
L197[10:31:42] <payonel> S3: load takes a function iterator that returns string segments
L198[10:31:50] <payonel> would that solve your needs?
L199[10:32:10] <payonel> you could return the library lua file source, then iterate (concat) your own string following it
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L202[10:46:27] <S3> payonel: yeah i'm thinking about it
L203[10:46:31] <Inari> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/18783800/html5test/Something%20%2855%29.mp4 woo progress :P sadly it wont run this "smoothly" once i try textures :f
L204[10:46:40] <S3> I just wish it was mor eof like, load this blob, then load more later
L205[10:48:13] <payonel> Inari: that is the most beautiful thing i've ever seen
L206[10:50:08] <Inari> in an ideal case textures would runa t like 8.2 tps i guess :f
L207[10:50:49] <Inari> fps
L208[10:50:50] <Inari> that is
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L210[10:51:32] <Inari> or more like 5..
L211[10:51:54] <payonel> Inari: i wasn't being completely sarcastic
L212[10:51:59] <payonel> i really love what you're doing
L213[10:52:07] <Inari> make that 3.5 actually
L214[10:52:45] <Inari> (and thats at 120x100)
L215[10:52:47] <Inari> there might be some tricks to improve tha tthough
L216[10:52:56] <Inari> payonel: haha, to me its pretty ugly still :D especially as it has no textures
L217[10:53:41] <Inari> well next i'll add textures and then try to see and improve its performance
L218[10:56:19] <payonel> !
L219[10:56:22] <payonel> oc feature request
L220[10:56:30] <payonel> overclocking components
L221[10:56:38] <payonel> still T3 crap
L222[10:56:41] <Inari> that migth actaulyl be cool
L223[10:56:44] <Inari> in combination with heat stuff
L224[10:56:45] <Inari> :P
L225[10:56:46] <payonel> but, takes (e.g.) 10x the power
L226[10:56:47] <payonel> chance of fires
L227[10:56:50] <payonel> but super speeds
L228[10:57:17] <payonel> Inari: this could be our solution to gpu perf! without the forbidden and hated "T4"
L229[10:57:22] <payonel> %tell Sangar overclocking
L230[10:57:24] <MichiBot> payonel: Sangar will be notified of this message when next seen.
L231[10:57:25] <Inari> haha
L232[10:57:41] <Inari> i'd like more resolution, shaders, vram or the like :P
L233[10:57:51] <Inari> of course theres still a couple tricks to do to gain some perfomrnace
L234[10:58:11] <payonel> more resolution + offset viewport would be very nice and backward compat
L235[10:59:04] <Cruor> Inari: thats a raycaster :I
L236[10:59:22] <Inari> Cruor: it is
L237[10:59:40] <Cruor> <Inari> my raytrace renderer
L238[10:59:58] <Inari> eh, its both
L239[11:02:17] <Cruor> i think my raycaster died horribly :I
L240[11:02:32] <Cruor> then again, i had no damned clue what i was doing
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L243[11:17:14] <Inari> #
L244[11:20:14] <Temia> I think direct pixel and primitive drawing would be nice.
L245[11:21:38] <Temia> Hey Inari, are you using copy() operations to speed up rotation at all?
L246[11:24:14] <Tris> Wow
L247[11:24:14] <Tris> wow
L248[11:24:16] <Tris> mojang, stop
L249[11:24:21] <payonel> Tris: ?
L250[11:24:22] <Tris> "Minecraft 1.10 pre-release"
L251[11:24:29] <Stary2001> haha
L252[11:24:30] <payonel> haha
L253[11:25:00] <Tris> Here's an idea, Lets pay Gany a lot of money, and just have every one of us modders stay in one version
L254[11:25:41] <asie> no
L255[11:25:43] <Tris> seriously this is getting stupid
L256[11:25:45] <Temia> That took like no time at all
L257[11:25:48] <asie> this is fucking fantastic Tris
L258[11:25:52] <asie> this is all i wanted from mojang
L259[11:25:57] <Inari> Temia: nope, buts its already only redrawing what changed anyway
L260[11:25:58] <asie> release often so i can spend an hour a month porting
L261[11:26:00] <asie> not a month a year
L262[11:26:32] <asie> guess why Tekkit managed to update to 1.0, 1.1, 1.2.3, 1.2.5, and later we swiftly went 1.5->1.6
L263[11:26:38] <asie> because those particular updates were tiny
L264[11:26:50] <asie> and so it only took 2-3 weeks to have all the mods move
L265[11:27:08] <Inari> whos Gany
L266[11:28:30] <Saphire> granny without two letters?
L267[11:28:40] <Inari> who's granny?
L268[11:28:47] <Inari> *whose
L269[11:28:48] <Inari> ig uess
L270[11:28:48] <Inari> :P
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L273[11:31:54] <Inari> Temia: i migth try using copy more for the rotation stuff though once i use textures
L274[11:31:57] <Tris> ganymedes
L275[11:31:59] <Inari> since then more changes
L276[11:32:08] <Inari> then again, im skeptical theres much copyable there
L277[11:36:13] <Tris> speaking of older versions
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L279[11:36:31] <Tris> I might just go and load up a really old version with some classic mods
L280[11:36:35] <Tris> for nostalgia reasons
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L284[11:53:35] <gamax92> :3
L285[11:54:16] *** andreww is now known as xarses
L286[11:54:16] * payonel gives gamax92 some bacon wrapped, feta-filled dates
L287[11:54:29] <gamax92> misread >_>;
L288[11:54:45] <payonel> Inari: https://i.imgur.com/VtmoJUQ.gifv
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L290[11:55:44] <Tris> that dog looks like he's on the biggest A.D.D trip ever
L291[11:55:46] <gamax92> the dog is all like (durrrrrrr sit.)
L292[11:56:13] <Tris> He's too busy thinking about the potential treats he'll get later to even make simple muscle movements
L293[11:56:38] <gamax92> mmhm, is sad :/
L294[11:58:50] <payonel> i'm working on an improved install (/bin/install)
L295[11:59:01] <payonel> i have a man page for it. this is very much "in progress"
L296[11:59:11] <payonel> but i wanted feedback to my first (ok, 2nd) draft
L297[11:59:14] <payonel> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/payonel/OpenComputers/37c2fae82f9fbf3fbad760c9f997fb7e83f6b202/src/main/resources/assets/opencomputers/loot/OpenOS/usr/man/install
L298[11:59:27] <payonel> it has grammar mistakes, formatting issues, etc
L299[11:59:34] <payonel> but, i'm open to any and all feedback
L300[12:01:41] * Forecaster connects electric current to payonel
L301[12:02:02] <Temia> No no no, obviously not electrical feedback!
L302[12:02:04] <Temia> This is signaling!
L303[12:02:09] * Temia hauls over a radar jammer
L304[12:03:59] <xarses> hmm, I wanted to make a my class keep a pointer to the parent it was created from, but I don't see how to make it work
L305[12:04:04] <xarses> or describe it properly
L306[12:04:10] <xarses> for google to help me
L307[12:04:47] <xarses> https://gist.github.com/xarses/bf2b8069ce9eca1772afff8b674a3c1a#file-gistfile1-txt-L5
L308[12:04:51] <payonel> Forecaster: haha :)
L309[12:04:53] <Temia> That sounds like a circular reference waiting to happen.
L310[12:05:13] <Forecaster> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meDqJqoq7K0
L311[12:05:14] <MichiBot> FUCK EVERYTHING | Dan Bull | length: 5m 33s | Likes: 5911 Dislikes: 142 Views: 44606 | by Dan Bull
L312[12:05:52] <Forecaster> some of these things are strangely specific
L313[12:06:26] <payonel> xarses: i'm worried about line 8: self.__index = self
L314[12:07:03] <xarses> payonel: but thats the way to get the functions from the class no?
L315[12:07:20] <payonel> #lua mt={foo=function()print("hi")end} mt.__index=mt t=setmetatable({},mt) t.foo()
L316[12:07:21] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > hi | nil
L317[12:07:36] <xarses> https://www.lua.org/pil/16.2.html
L318[12:07:50] <payonel> xarses: normally you index to a parent type, not the same mt
L319[12:07:54] <payonel> like ...
L320[12:08:16] <payonel> #lua a={foo=function()print("default")end} b=setmetatable({},{__index=a}) b.foo()
L321[12:08:16] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > default | nil
L322[12:08:28] <payonel> #lua b.foo=function()print("mine")end b.foo()
L323[12:08:28] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > mine | nil
L324[12:08:35] <payonel> #lua b.foo=nil b.foo()
L325[12:08:35] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > default | nil
L326[12:09:22] <xarses> I'm lost
L327[12:10:03] <xarses> other than you want __index == poi
L328[12:10:16] <payonel> yeah
L329[12:10:38] <payonel> also, why 'self', normally that pseudo-keyword is reserved for : methods
L330[12:10:55] <xarses> because the lua manual tells me to
L331[12:10:59] <payonel> not sure what object self would be in your workflow
L332[12:11:39] <xarses> on the first instance. it would be poi -> p=poi:new()
L333[12:13:00] <payonel> ah ....
L334[12:13:07] <xarses> in the child it would be p -> n=p:new()
L335[12:13:27] <xarses> which i was expecting for n.parent == p
L336[12:13:31] <xarses> but I'm getting nil
L337[12:14:47] <payonel> they use self so child types can insert their own table
L338[12:15:13] <xarses> so self is already obj?
L339[12:15:15] <payonel> as for self as a keyword, if you call a method with :, it'll pass the calling object as the first param
L340[12:15:32] <payonel> if you define the method with :, you get 'self' and should not define it (which you didn't)
L341[12:15:51] <payonel> if you define the method with ., then you are given the calling object as the first param
L342[12:16:00] <payonel> xarses: can i see more of your code?
L343[12:16:14] <xarses> that's everything that I'm having problems with at this point
L344[12:16:32] <xarses> also, there isn't anything else yet
L345[12:16:34] <payonel> and you then have n=poi:new() ?
L346[12:16:40] <payonel> or p:new()
L347[12:17:19] <xarses> p=poi:new() ; n=p:new() ; n.parent == p
L348[12:17:55] <xarses> is the flow I expected to be able to assume
L349[12:18:14] <xarses> basiclly I wan't to put a point like say a transposer
L350[12:18:16] <Elizabeth> Lol got locked in at work
L351[12:18:22] <payonel> Elizabeth: ha, nice
L352[12:18:38] <xarses> and then the children containers around it would have the transposer parent
L353[12:18:43] <payonel> xarses: and p is nil?
L354[12:18:55] <xarses> p is not nil
L355[12:18:55] <Elizabeth> Only got out because one of the groundsmen was leaving just as I set the alarms off on my way out
L356[12:19:02] <xarses> n.parent is nil
L357[12:19:23] <payonel> oh because you never set parent
L358[12:19:43] <xarses> well i expected new to do it
L359[12:19:58] <xarses> when i used p:new()
L360[12:19:58] <payonel> poi:new => poi.new(self, nil, nil, nil, nil) => parent=parent or self.parent and self.parent is nil, so obj.parent is nil
L361[12:20:19] <xarses> p.parent is supposed to be nil
L362[12:20:32] <xarses> because poi:new() gets nil
L363[12:20:37] <payonel> yes
L364[12:20:44] <xarses> but p:new()
L365[12:21:11] <xarses> well actuall poi:new() should end up with parent of poi
L366[12:21:26] <payonel> there is never a parent set, though -- it's always nil
L367[12:21:41] <xarses> oh, I see problem
L368[12:21:55] <xarses> it should be self, not self.parent
L369[12:21:59] <Tris> mo' creatures
L370[12:22:05] <payonel> mo' tris
L371[12:22:17] <Tris> you don't want more then one of me
L372[12:22:22] <Tris> trust me, you'll regret it
L373[12:22:41] <xarses> ok, so does this data structure make sense?
L374[12:22:46] <payonel> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwQW3KW3DCc
L375[12:22:46] <MichiBot> Arrested Development - I've Made a Huge Mistake Compilation | length: 1m 18s | Likes: 1433 Dislikes: 24 Views: 477075 | by Nico SD
L376[12:23:05] <payonel> xarses: it doesn't make sense to me to have parent point to a parent TYPE
L377[12:23:18] <payonel> ergo, `parent=parent or self` isn't quite right, imo
L378[12:23:23] <payonel> but, i don't know your use case
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L380[12:23:36] <xarses> well ya I should shortcut out the type
L381[12:23:53] <xarses> so poi:new() results in parent = nil
L382[12:24:01] <xarses> but a:new() results in parent == a
L383[12:24:28] <xarses> but I mean the whole poi its self
L384[12:24:49] <xarses> I don't feel confident that it does what I think I want
L385[12:24:51] <payonel> i personally don't like using new() for sub classing
L386[12:25:04] <xarses> huh?
L387[12:25:16] <payonel> "new()" should be for creating instances
L388[12:25:17] <payonel> not "types"
L389[12:25:19] <xarses> everything should be poi:new()
L390[12:25:40] <payonel> in the example docs you linked, they have Account and SpecialAccount
L391[12:25:54] <payonel> _I_ would not use Account:new() to form the SpecialAccount "type"
L392[12:26:57] <payonel> i would use an entirely separate method for that, like a Account:make_child_type() ... or some such :)
L393[12:27:07] <payonel> new should be for instances, in which it makes sense to set parent
L394[12:27:13] <reinei> Account:exetnd()?
L395[12:27:19] <payonel> reinei: uu i like
L396[12:27:26] <xarses> uh, I'm not making new types...
L397[12:27:28] <Tris> oh wow
L398[12:27:37] <xarses> just instances
L399[12:27:40] <payonel> s/et/te/
L400[12:27:40] <MichiBot> <reinei> Account:extend()?
L401[12:27:41] <Tris> the scrub who maintains mo' creatures updated it to 1.8.8
L402[12:27:48] <Tris> tbut not 1.8.9
L403[12:27:53] <Tris> the absolute scrub -.-;
L404[12:27:57] <payonel> xarses: then what is p:new() ?
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L406[12:28:39] <S3> fun
L407[12:29:08] <xarses> short hand to create an instance of poi with parent p poi:new(nil,nil,nil, p)
L408[12:29:10] <S3> vifino: I was bored
L409[12:29:13] <S3> so I made a 555 timer
L410[12:29:14] <S3> http://tinyurl.com/hz62pbk
L411[12:29:18] <S3> :D
L412[12:29:25] <S3> output is second scope window at botom
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L414[12:29:45] <payonel> xarses: is this like a linked list?
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L416[12:30:01] <S3> takes a while to warm up
L417[12:30:04] <xarses> ya, I think so
L418[12:30:11] <reinei> S3 that app has a built in 555, so I can dramatically reduce that circuit xD
L419[12:30:25] <S3> reinei: yes but then it's not fun
L420[12:30:44] <S3> that's literally what the 555 looks like
L421[12:30:52] <S3> minus that I added the capacitor RC network for you
L422[12:31:33] <S3> the 555 timer actually doesn't really have any timing functionality,
L423[12:31:53] <reinei> yeah
L424[12:31:55] <S3> it's more just a helper for you so that you can tie your timing RC network to it
L425[12:32:00] <reinei> its all the external cap and resistor stuff
L426[12:32:04] <S3> yep
L427[12:32:07] <S3> but
L428[12:32:19] <S3> having the op amps and flip flops in there helps
L429[12:32:25] <S3> and a triggering transistor
L430[12:32:34] <S3> for compactness
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L432[12:32:56] <reinei> I really need some small projects to do now that I got op amps and some transistors
L433[12:33:17] <S3> build an ALU
L434[12:33:22] <S3> op amps can be used for digital logic
L435[12:33:46] <reinei> but I only got like 8 of them I think
L436[12:34:03] <S3> http://320volt.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/op-ampli-veyadegil-nor-kapisi.png
L437[12:34:20] <xarses> payonel: anyway, I'm not sure it does what I want and am stuck trying to rationalize how to store and relate objects in a data set so that muliple things can interact with them. so for example. one poi might be a transposer, its child poi may be chests around it. but then I need to be able to search for the chest for a drone to stock it. but might use the transposer to keep track of its inventories and move things into a neighboring machine based on it's status
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L439[12:35:19] <xarses> i started down this 'poi' concept and linking them, but I'm not confident anymore that it will express what I wan't
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L442[12:36:08] <payonel> xarses: the parent child relationship can give you a list or a tree (n children) -- assuming we have the code, is that the data structure you want?
L443[12:36:34] <reinei> a tree appears like a good choice for what he just described
L444[12:36:43] <S3> whatchya making now?
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L446[12:36:49] <S3> I was payng attention to class
L447[12:36:54] <S3> xarses:
L448[12:37:23] <S3> aha
L449[12:37:26] <xarses> I'm not sure, as starting down this path, i've already noted that I might also need to keep a table of the poi by location, instead of just parent child
L450[12:37:37] <S3> poi?
L451[12:37:44] <xarses> point of interest
L452[12:37:48] <S3> hmm
L453[12:37:58] <xarses> for example a transposer
L454[12:38:00] <S3> are you making a mapping algorithm?
L455[12:38:01] <xarses> or a chest
L456[12:38:09] <xarses> possibly next to said chest
L457[12:38:15] <xarses> that will be part of the solution
L458[12:38:30] <S3> because I find octrees to be awesome for 3D mapping
L459[12:38:32] <xarses> since I need to get robot/drone to move between them
L460[12:38:40] <S3> the more data you know about the more complex it gets
L461[12:39:15] <xarses> because something like a chest, might be off on its own, and not have a parent
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L463[12:39:22] <xarses> so where would I place that in the tree
L464[12:39:23] <reinei> S3, although I never used a quad or octree, but I am also of the opinion that they are awesome
L465[12:39:30] <reinei> xarses, root?
L466[12:39:31] <Inari> payonel: cute xD
L467[12:39:34] <reinei> like under the root node
L468[12:39:59] <S3> reinei: I really want to replace anvil with a dual lighting / chunk octree just to see how much of a performance impact it would make on MC
L469[12:40:12] <S3> it may make it ridiculously fast for many situations
L470[12:40:25] <reinei> sounds cool, but I won't help you with that xD
L471[12:40:28] <xarses> so, assuming I know nothing about octrees, where should I start?
L472[12:40:29] <S3> it is the sole reason why Sauerbraten will run on a pentium 4
L473[12:40:30] <S3> lol
L474[12:40:52] <S3> xarses: first learn about quadtrees
L475[12:40:57] <reinei> xarses, make a class called octree and a class called Node than can hold your required information
L476[12:41:15] <reinei> (do S3 recommendation first though xD)
L477[12:41:29] <reinei> where did my 's go?
L478[12:41:55] <S3> Octrees are particularly use for avoiding compression, performance, and storing "unknown" data
L479[12:41:57] <S3> for example
L480[12:42:28] <S3> ytou have a square 16x16 chunk of area you represent as a quadtree
L481[12:42:33] <S3> you know it exists;
L482[12:42:36] <payonel> xarses: quadtrees and octrees are just trees. quads are fun for 2d space, octs for 3d
L483[12:42:44] <S3> but you don'tknow anything about it. that entire chunk only takes 1 node
L484[12:43:29] <S3> you bump into a chest
L485[12:43:32] <S3> and all of a sudden
L486[12:43:37] <S3> you split that quadtree into four squares
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L489[12:43:55] <S3> then split the one you're in in four more, and you keep doing that in your positin until you pinpoint the chest's location
L490[12:44:06] <S3> the other 3 giant squares are blank
L491[12:44:14] <S3> knowing nothing about them
L492[12:44:29] <payonel> this is a good design discussion about the data structures in question
L493[12:44:56] *** gAway2002 is now known as g
L494[12:45:21] <Inari> ~oc shell
L495[12:45:21] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/api:shell
L496[12:45:53] *** rakiru|offline is now known as Kasen
L497[12:46:00] <Inari> ~oc filesystem
L498[12:46:00] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/api:filesystem
L499[12:46:21] <xarses> payonel: ?
L500[12:47:04] <xarses> the conversation, or are you pointing to a document
L501[12:48:29] <payonel> xarses: sorry, i'm at work
L502[12:48:31] <payonel> i got pulled away
L503[12:48:35] <Temia> ...
L504[12:48:36] <payonel> i HAD a follow up comment to that :)
L505[12:48:43] <Temia> The shit I find on the internet sometimes.
L506[12:48:48] * Temia pinches the bridge of her nose.
L507[12:49:43] <payonel> xarses: i wanted to add -- that my issue here is that you should separate the meaning of a 'static' new and 'create child' new
L508[12:49:50] <Temia> While googling, I seem to have found what appears to be an Avengers/Artonelico crossover fic. What even.
L509[12:50:04] <payonel> Temia: ... link?
L510[12:50:17] <Temia> https://www.fanfiction.net/s/8419814/1/xE-rre
L511[12:50:27] <payonel> Inari: everytime someone ~oc requests api...i keep hoping they'll ask me for explanations :)
L512[12:50:41] <Inari> haha
L513[12:50:41] <payonel> i need to update the docs, and make a huge # of awesome examples
L514[12:50:54] <Temia> The title's even a chunk of Hymmnos. I'm afraid of looking further.
L515[12:50:58] <payonel> Inari: but please, because i enjoy helping, ping me if you have questions
L516[12:51:20] <Temia> ...fuck it, Payonel, let's read it together.
L517[12:51:22] <xarses> payonel: ya, I think I get that
L518[12:51:26] <Temia> May our suffering be shared.
L519[12:51:33] * xarses goes off to digest
L520[12:51:35] <Inari> i mostly just use it to look up which api had what and such
L521[12:52:15] <Temia> Woah, M-rated.
L522[12:52:16] <Temia> Saucy.
L523[12:55:26] <Tris> there needs to be more robotic mods
L524[12:55:49] <Tris> unless I'm being an idiot and just not searching enough and there's secretly two thousand of them
L525[13:00:09] <payonel> Temia: bleh i skimmed 90% of it
L526[13:00:17] <payonel> also, didn't notice anything m-rated :/
L527[13:00:25] <Temia> Same.
L528[13:03:55] <Inari> payonel: any plans to provide high levle readers/writers?
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L530[13:10:04] <S3> back
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L532[13:12:05] <CyberTurd> hey lizzy
L533[13:12:13] <Inari> wow trying to make this code nicer is a pain :P cant be bothered with that now
L534[13:12:47] <CyberTurd> can we do the heist today or can we do it tommorow
L535[13:13:05] <gamax92> heist
L536[13:13:14] <CyberTurd> yeah gta
L537[13:15:06] <payonel> Inari: high level?
L538[13:21:26] <Elizabeth> CyberTurd, don't think SuPeRMiNoR2 and vifino are here, will probably have to be tomorrow
L539[13:22:16] <Inari> payonel: buffered reading, linereader, bytereader
L540[13:22:16] <Inari> etc
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L542[13:23:22] <payonel> we have all of those
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L544[13:25:02] <Inari> like?
L545[13:25:13] <payonel> Inari: io.open() returns a buffered stream. and h:read("*l") reads a line, or h:read(1) reads a single byte
L546[13:25:20] <payonel> are you thinking of something different?
L547[13:25:55] <Lizzy> also CyberTurd, please remember to bring my W7 disk to grandma's tomorrow
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L549[13:31:20] <CyberTurd> okay will do
L550[13:31:27] <Lizzy> thanks
L551[13:34:32] <Inari> payonel: fs.open vs io.open
L552[13:34:33] <Inari> explain :f
L553[13:34:51] * vifino groans and curls up on Lizzy
L554[13:35:03] * Lizzy pets vifino
L555[13:35:04] <Inari> payonel: also, opening always on bytemopde but reading strings would be good, or does that work in bytemode
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L557[13:36:17] <payonel> fs.open is not buffered, io.open calls fs.open and buffers it
L558[13:36:51] <Inari> any diference as to which paths they take/
L559[13:37:02] <Inari> fs didnt seem to like relative paths at least
L560[13:37:16] <payonel> it's the same path
L561[13:37:18] <g> Not sure if anyone here used it, but if you did: plug.dj is back
L562[13:37:25] <payonel> yes, generally, fs assumes you've "fixed" the path first
L563[13:37:30] <g> This exporter works if you want to do the smart thing and get your playlists off there: https://plugapi4py-houdhakker2-2.c9.io/PlugToYT
L564[13:37:36] <Inari> Lizzy: why do you know cyber turds
L565[13:37:46] <Inari> payonel: and io?
L566[13:37:59] <Lizzy> Inari, hes my cousin
L567[13:38:03] <payonel> io.open simply calls fs.open, doesn't shell.resolve the path or anything
L568[13:38:06] <Inari> lewd?
L569[13:38:13] <gamax92> Inari
L570[13:38:17] <Inari> payonel: okay
L571[13:38:18] <Lizzy> .-.
L572[13:38:40] <Inari> payonel: afaik "*l" doesnt work if you used "rb" mode though
L573[13:39:18] <payonel> i wrote (the recent version of) read line (i.e. l and L)
L574[13:39:25] <payonel> it wasn't written in a text-mode specific manner
L575[13:39:31] <payonel> it...should just work
L576[13:40:02] <Inari> ah
L577[13:40:56] <payonel> so in other words, afaik, there will be no difference
L578[13:41:15] <payonel> for example, i'm not interpretting \b in text mode to remove previous char
L579[13:41:25] <payonel> eol's are the same
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L581[13:41:43] <payonel> i haven't tested this much, text-mode that is
L582[13:42:12] <payonel> we are passing the mode to the host operating system - through a java call
L583[13:43:34] <Inari> i still dont knwo what exactly text mode even does :P i just know it tends to screw up reading binary data
L584[13:44:11] <payonel> Inari: i just checked the scala source
L585[13:44:17] <payonel> we do not treat byte mode special
L586[13:44:27] <payonel> i.e. it is all the same
L587[13:44:36] <payonel> text mode "interprets" text
L588[13:44:58] <payonel> so, for example, \n could be a line ending mark, or \r, or \r\n
L589[13:45:18] <payonel> so in text mode, what you get isn't ALL the bits you gave (possibly)
L590[13:45:30] <payonel> but, in oc -- text mode is ignored, it is all byte mode
L591[13:45:34] <payonel> i.e. same in same out
L592[13:45:47] <payonel> and definitely in OpenOS i'm not treating the mode specially
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L594[13:50:48] <Inari> hm
L595[13:51:03] <Inari> well will have to see how to write a loader in th ebest way haha
L596[13:51:11] <Kimiro> Is taking out a hit on yourself accessory to murder or suicide?
L597[13:53:17] <Forecaster> if they can't prove who ordered the hit you're innocent :P
L598[14:02:36] * vifino purrs wildly at Lizzy
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L608[14:45:04] * Lizzy pets vifino
L609[14:45:22] * vifino purrs EVEN MOAR
L610[14:45:32] * vifino snuggles Lizzy <3
L611[14:45:39] * Lizzy snuggles vifino <3
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L629[15:55:46] <Inari> https://fat.gfycat.com/BlondGiddyJumpingbean.webm tunnel vision
L630[15:57:09] <Forecaster> well, a scope is essentially a tunnel :P
L631[15:58:34] <payonel> i want one: https://teespring.com/naturalone?1=1#pid=369&cid=6513&sid=front
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L634[16:00:54] <Forecaster> xD
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L636[16:08:22] <g> https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/4m7ay6/teamviewer_has_been_hacked_they_are_denying/
L637[16:08:33] <Inari> http://imgur.com/gallery/RUs705H
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L639[16:13:00] <g> if this is true, thaaaat's pretty bad
L640[16:19:04] <Forecaster> sites that store credit card info really should require a password reprompt before allowing you to use it at the very least
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L642[16:19:14] <Lizzy> thanks windows ¬_¬
L643[16:19:41] <Forecaster> ?
L644[16:20:00] <Lizzy> managed to fuck up my download directory because i named it downloads.old
L645[16:20:03] <Temia> Daaaaang.
L646[16:20:11] <Temia> Signal boosted.
L647[16:20:12] <Lizzy> the .old became a folder without the .old at the end
L648[16:20:14] <Lizzy> ¬_¬
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L650[16:21:06] <Forecaster> huh
L651[16:21:21] <payonel> Lizzy: my work machine is broken as crap because i tried to rename and remount my documents and downloads folders (As i always do on windows) to custom offline drives
L652[16:21:24] <Forecaster> I've never tried renaming system dirs
L653[16:21:56] <payonel> the reason it broke a ton of crap is because our work machines have a special backup software that mounts docs to a shared drive when i'm at work
L654[16:22:03] <payonel> with a LOOOOT of registry black magi
L655[16:22:04] <payonel> magic
L656[16:22:23] <Forecaster> black magic is 100% safe
L657[16:22:30] <payonel> anywho, yeah..windows. i love windows, but it has some really frustrating under the hood crap
L658[16:23:08] <Forecaster> yeah
L659[16:23:14] <Forecaster> but at least it's not iOS :P
L660[16:24:01] <payonel> i used to not like apple and their software
L661[16:24:29] <payonel> then i worked for a company on a project and apple mac osx was one of our target deployments
L662[16:24:38] <payonel> now i loothe everything mac
L663[16:24:50] <payonel> loathe*
L664[16:27:01] <gamax92> s/oth/v/
L665[16:27:01] <MichiBot> <payonel> now i love everything mac
L666[16:30:35] <payonel> 1d20 push gamax92 out the window
L667[16:30:35] <Corded> payonel: 1d20 = 3
L668[16:30:41] <payonel> \o/
L669[16:31:06] * payonel gently strokes gamax92 back
L670[16:31:42] <gamax92> o.o;;;
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L673[16:38:54] * Lizzy yawns and flops across vifino
L674[16:39:14] * vifino giggles and carries Lizzy to bed
L675[16:39:54] <Temia> 1d20 push payonel out the same window
L676[16:39:55] <Corded> Temia: 1d20 = 9
L677[16:40:06] <payonel> dex saving through?
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L679[16:40:19] <Temia> Sure `o`
L680[16:40:29] <Inari> "through"?
L681[16:40:30] <payonel> 4d6 dex
L682[16:40:30] <Corded> payonel: 4d6 = 19 ( 4, 4, 6, 5 ) ~ 4.8
L683[16:40:39] <payonel> 15, +2
L684[16:40:46] <payonel> 1d20
L685[16:40:46] <Corded> payonel: 1d20 = 12
L686[16:40:49] <payonel> +2=14
L687[16:40:51] <payonel> woot!
L688[16:40:59] <vifino> 13d37
L689[16:41:00] <Corded> vifino: 13d37 = 234 ~ 18
L690[16:41:12] <vifino> kewl.
L691[16:41:18] * Temia pushes against Payonel and huffs! ... pouts. :c
L692[16:41:28] <Inari> 14d42
L693[16:41:29] <Corded> Inari: 14d42 = 265 ~ 18.9
L694[16:41:29] <payonel> Temia: in all seriousness, i want to make a bot for this channel that keeps track of level, ability score, gold, etc
L695[16:41:29] <gamax92> what is going on
L696[16:41:31] <Temia> Couldn't you please jump out the window for me? :<
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L698[16:41:48] * payonel jumps out window. For Temia.
L699[16:41:54] <Temia> \o/
L700[16:42:05] <Temia> Never underestimate a cute person's persuasion check!
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L702[16:42:30] <gamax92> Can you persuade me to be productive and accomplish things?
L703[16:42:50] <Temia> Couldn't you please give it a shot for me, Gamax? :<
L704[16:43:17] * gamax92 ends up petting the sad moo instead
L705[16:43:51] * Temia heeees and tailswishes... wait, no, that's not how this should go!
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L711[17:11:35] <Kimiro> I must go, me people need me.
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L715[17:47:59] <payonel> #lua return string.rep("a", 4)
L716[17:47:59] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > aaaa
L717[17:48:18] <payonel> #lua return string.rep("\t", 4)
L718[17:48:18] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
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L723[18:12:23] <vifino> Hey, Temia, are you there?
L724[18:14:02] <Temia> what's up?
L725[18:15:12] <vifino> I saw that you have Tabletop Simulator on steam, feel like playing sometime?
L726[18:15:43] <Tedster> dammit, I still don't own that game
L727[18:16:36] <Temia> It hasn't actually been working for me, so I'm afraid I can't. D:
L728[18:16:44] <vifino> Aww. :(
L729[18:17:11] <vifino> What issues did you run into?
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L731[18:18:49] <Temia> Connection failures with Steam itself. I didn't really feel like investigating at the time so I left it alone.
L732[18:19:51] <vifino> Oh well.
L733[18:20:15] <vifino> If you ever get it working, feel free to come back to me.
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L735[18:20:36] <gamax92> I also have it and wouldn't mind playing with you two
L736[18:21:35] <vifino> Oh, you do? D
L737[18:21:36] <vifino> :D*
L738[18:21:43] <gamax92> mmhm
L739[18:22:20] <gamax92> I haven't exactly played with it in a while though
L740[18:22:50] <vifino> Do you happen to have time to play and know a game for it which works fine for two players? I haven't played it even once.
L741[18:23:04] <vifino> I do, weirdly enough, have 18 hours in it.
L742[18:23:57] <vifino> No idea where they come from. I remember playing maybe an hour, just setting it up and toying with some random maps on the workshop.-
L743[18:23:59] <gamax92> battleship, chess, checkers, mancala, pool, monopoly,
L744[18:24:51] <gamax92> dunno if people have made all of those but they probably exist in t he workshop
L745[18:25:31] <vifino> Oh my, I would like to play battleship. Is there pool? And what is mancala?
L746[18:26:02] <gamax92> I don't think I remembered the name correctly :P
L747[18:26:28] <gamax92> there's also a jigsaw puzzle where you can use any URL you wish
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L749[18:28:46] <gamax92> there was some other game my friend made by taking an actual board she owned, taking several pictures and stitching them together, and then recreated it
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L752[18:29:55] <Super-Dusty> hi
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L757[19:02:16] <xarses> gamax92: what about a kdtree over octree?
L758[19:03:04] <xarses> gamax92: uh, sorry I thought you where helping me this morning
L759[19:04:08] <xarses> payonel: S3 ^^
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L761[19:06:43] <lashtear> R*Tree :D
L762[19:07:31] <xarses> ?
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L767[19:44:32] <xarses_> stupid tubes
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L778[21:11:11] <gamax92> I feel like bashing my head against a wall
L779[21:11:45] <gamax92> please temperature go down
L780[21:30:39] <xarses_> gamax92: ++
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L794[23:47:42] <xarses> what happened to jenkins?
L795[23:47:54] <xarses> http://ci.cil.li/job/OpenComputers-dev-MC1.7.10/
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